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**** Conference [ 14] - (Fido) CD ROM
From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 1
To: MICHAEL MULCAHY Date: 08/05/93 10:45a
Subj: Re: Mac cd-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> BS> Boris, howzabout a listing of any Mac CD-ROM titles you
>> have for sale? BS> You can also list the ones that are
>> Mac/IBM, as long as they are BS> definitely Mac too. Thanx
>> - Bob Shuster BS>
>> Boris, I am also seriously interested in MAC CD-ROM Titles!!
>> Plus,What are you charging for caddies?....m2
Drop us a note or call us direct with your interest and I'am sure we can
help. Our current price on caddies are $4.25ec up to 10, over 10 our
price is $4.15ec.
Hope this helps....
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2
To: MIKE CARR Date: 08/05/93 10:45a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Controller Refer: NONE
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>> In speaking with Mitsumi, they say it will not work. But then
>> again, they say the Mitsumi isn''t OS/2 compatiable either,
>> yet we see users here doing just that.
>> Yes..the drivers for the Mitsumi were produced after-market
>> and the author of the drivers is charging for it. This driver
>> for OS/2 is NOT completely compatable as of yet, but after
>> talking to a couple of friends that work for IBM, there
>> should be general release drivers available from them SOON...
Yes, we knew that Mike, but the concern was if Mitsumi offered the drivers
yet and they do not. Also, the drivers you meantioned above are still
under development and have a few bugs in them, but their better than nothing
at this point.
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3
To: ROEL SARCENO Date: 08/05/93 10:45a
Subj: Re: Pioneer DRM-604x Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Boris,
>> Are you the same guy who sold me the Pioneer DRM-604x. Just
>> wanna let you know it works greatand your right. This CD
>> Reader is fast. I'm planning to buy another one in the future.
>> As you know I'm new to CD world. I appreciate a brief
>> descriptions of each new CDs your offering.
Can't tell you for sure Roel, since we sell so many of them each week.
But I am glad to hear your enjoying your new toy and hopefully we'll
hear from you again.
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4
To: GUILHERME MOURA Date: 08/05/93 10:45a
Subj: Re: RED HOT SUMMER Refer: NONE
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BO>> ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 - PRICE - $25.00ec
BO>> ALL NEW - SHAREWARE VAULT 2 - CD POWERBOX/WINBOX PRICE - $15.00ec
BO>> ALL NEW - HOT PIX 5 - DIGITAL DREAMS - SWIMWARE 93 PRICE - $25.00ec
BO>> ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM PRICE - $35.00ec
>> You can send it for Brazil ???
Yes or anywhere in the world for that matter!!
>> Uses Amex or Credicard ??
Visa/MasterCard only....
Hope this helps....
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 5
To: TIM MORAN Date: 08/05/93 10:45a
Subj: Re: RED HOT SUMMER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Do you have OS/2 2.1 on CD?
Suppose to be on it's way in here, but then again so are a ton of
other cd's as well.
Later....
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 6
To: TOM CZACHOR Date: 08/05/93 10:45a
Subj: Re: SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3 Refer: NONE
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>> I have seen messages that So Much Shareware 3 has been
>> released, who has it and how much.
>>
>> Also I saw references to a SMS3 review file, anyone have it
>> for FREQ?
>> thanks
In stock and it's priced at $29. Interested, give us a call at
216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy to help you out.
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 7
To: JOE WALSH Date: 08/05/93 10:45a
Subj: Re: W.O.R.M. DRIVES Refer: NONE
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>> I am looking for a used or new W.O.R.M. drive (write once read
>> many drive), if anyone has one for sale or knows where I can
>> find one at a reasonable price please send me a message or
>> give me a call at (204)-253-6793 or my work number
>> (204)-788-0900. Thanks.
How's about $369. for an internal unit, fully warranted ??
Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy
to help.
Boris Osadciw
... I married the Mail Lady!
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From: TOM GUELKER Number: 8
To: LOIS FRANKEL Date: 08/03/93 7:47p
Subj: Encyclopedias Refer: NONE
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LF> I've looked at World Book Information Finder, Compton's Family Ency.,
LF> and Groliers (Software Toolworks) MPC 1.5 (for Windows). Of the three,
LF> Groliers is the clear winner for depth and level of information (I'd
LF> place it at aboaut college-level). It will also search for nearly *any*
LF> word or combination of words which interest you. Compton's Family is strict
LF> for kids, and the searches seem limited to keywords. World Book is
LF> roughly in the middle - maybe high-school level. All have graphics;
LF> Compton's and Groliers have sound (not sure about World Book), and
LF> Groliers has animation. I haven't had an opportunity to check out
LF> Grolier's sounds, yet, and their animations are nothing special. They
LF> also have some videos which I haven't been able to check out yet.
LF> Compton's also does a "multimedia" version which I believe is more
LF> sophisticated than their "family" version, but still (according to
LF> reviews I've read) less sophisticated than Grolier's. I haven't seen it
LF> in operation personally. Groliers is the one I finally bought.
A friend bought a Soundblaster Pro and got the Groliers (Software
Toolworks) CD with the card. He didn't have a CD drive, so I was the
lucky guy that he gave it to. I have compared it to other encyclopedias
and think it's the best (so what if it was free..)
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From: TOM GUELKER Number: 9
To: DAVID M. WHITE Date: 08/03/93 7:48p
Subj: PDR Refer: NONE
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DMW> Can anyone tell me if the Physicians Desk Reference is available on CD? I
DMW> is available, what it the latest year of publication and the approximate
DMW> price
DMW> if you know. Any info appreciated.
I've got PDR 1993 on 4 floppies. It doesn't need the room a CD has.
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From: KEN BACHMAN @ 930/1 Number: 10
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 08/05/93 7:26a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Games Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
The Secret of Monkey Island and LOOM are both good CD games. As for 7th
guest requirements 150KB/sec transfer and 300 MS access are minimum.
Recommended are 300KB/sec with 200 MS access. Alot of people are
running on the first setup. Make sure you have the latest VESA driver
for your video card, some do come on the CD but no gurantees the one
for your card will be on it.
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From: DAVID PATTERSON Number: 11
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 07/30/93 6:05p
Subj: Non-local CD-ROM Refer: NONE
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LR>Does anyone know if
LR>someone has written a virtual driver that will allow MSCDEX
LR>or other software to think that a network connection is a
LR>local CD-ROM, thus allowing such software to run (single
LR>user, of course) under the LAN?
Yes, CDLANX.ZIP contains cdlanx that simulates mscdex on a workstation.
Check your local BBS's for a LAN or LANtastic file area.
Good luck.
Dave P.
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From: DAVID PATTERSON Number: 12
To: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON Date: 07/30/93 6:22p
Subj: Marginal CD-ROM Drives Refer: NONE
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CB>I want to buy a Toshiba 3401 model CD-ROM
CB>drive that has a 200 ms access time, 330 kps data
CB>transfer... but the drive only sells by itself, no
CB>interface card. The price for it is pretty enormous, $700.
Yes, the drive is SCSI (the type of interface), so you need a SCSI card.
It can be 8 or 16 bit, performance with hard drives is better with 16
bit. Some sound cards have a SCSI interface, ie. MediaVision
ProAudioSpectrum 16. 3401 bare internal drive should be no more than
$CAN 650.- Shop around.
Good Luck.
Dave P.
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From: DAVID PATTERSON Number: 13
To: STEVEN GOH Date: 07/30/93 6:28p
Subj: MO Disk Refer: NONE
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SG>The problem is since the MO Drives( Sony RMO-S350) which has a
SG>capacity to record 128meg per 3.5 inch CD, will it work on
SG>any notebook connected from
SG>a spcial cord linking from a parallel port to a SCSI slot
SG>using a special cord??.
There are 2 ways you can connect your notebook to an ext. 3.5" MO drive:
1- there are parallel port to SCSI adapters avail. from TRANTOR
or
2- Pinnacle has a parallel port ext. MO drive called Tahoe. It costs
about $CAN 1725.00.
Good luck
Dave P.
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From: DENNIS STERNER Number: 14
To: ALL Date: 08/06/93 6:51a
Subj: SONYFOR SALE Refer: NONE
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SONY CD-ROM External Player Model 7205 - complete with player, cables,interface
card, setup software, and SOFTWARE TOOLWORKS WORLD ATLAS.
Access time for this model is 350 ms.
This model received an Editor's Choice rating from
PC Magazine in 10/29/91 issue.
For sale for $260 delievered.
Call 717-637-2972 if interested.
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From: STEPHEN HARRINGTON Number: 15
To: JOHN WOLF Date: 08/05/93 9:29a
Subj: SBPro CD ROM Drives Refer: NONE
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-= John Wolf said to All about SBPro CD ROM Drives: =-
JW>I have heard that there is a new
JW>double spin style drive available for the SBPro have been looking for
JW>model numbers, specs and possible sources for the drive. If anyone
JW>knows anything about this drive please leave me a message.
Yes, Creative Labs have released a double speed drive, Panasonic CR-563 which
is a 300kb/s, 330msec(or so?) drive, XA, Multi-session, Photo CD, MPC II
compliant etc etc, all the things you need. Not the fastest access time, but a
good middle range drive. Is caddyless with a motorised tray for loading, like
most music CD players. I prefer this to having to use caddies, other people
disagree, personal preference I guess! Comes with the new CD upgrade kits here
in Australia, and works fine with all the SBPro and SB16 boards. If you don't
want the full kit you can buy the Panasonic CR-562B, a seemingly almost
identical drive, as a bare drive from other places. My CR-562B is running just
fine here on my original model SB Pro (not even Pro II), even runs 7th Guest
very well! Hardest problem is getting hold of the driver, SBCD.SYS, that you
need to run it off the SB Pro if you don't buy the full kit! Creative Labs
seem to be unwilling, here in Australia at least, to give copies to people who
don't buy the drive from them... But I'm sure you can work something out if you
go that way... being in Australia, it would be useless for me to name sources,
but I think I've seen them for around the US$299.00 mark? Hope this helps!
Stephen Harrington
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From: TYRONE ROSSOW Number: 16
To: SUNNY LEUNG Date: 08/04/93 8:14a
Subj: Re: hELP!? Soundblaster CDROM Refer: NONE
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Sunny!
SL>I think you may be missing the SBPCD.SYS device driver. This device
SL>driver
SL>needs to be loaded via an entry in CONFIG.SYS or else MSCDEX won't work.
SL>SBPCD.SYS should be on the disk that came with the CD-ROM. If you
SL>ran
SL>the install program on this disk, it'll add a line similar to
SL> device=c:\sbpro\drv\sbpcd.sys /d:mscd001 /p:220
ahhh.. you were right! 1000 thankyous :) *wipes sweat from brow* I was actually
looking for something like mscd001.sys but as the line you wrote above says,
it's an assignment or something.
Thanks very much for your help.
Tyrone
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From: LAURIE BATT Number: 17
To: BOB KNOWLES Date: 08/04/93 7:11a
Subj: 7th Guest Fix Refer: NONE
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G'day Bob, In a message on <Aug 02>, you said :
BK> Hi
BK> Does anyone know where I can get the "fix" for 7th Guest in
BK> Australia, preferably in Sydney?
I dont know whether is "THE" fix (I dont have 7th Guest), but there is "A" fix
on the Night Owls V9 CDROM.
I am sure you can find a BBS in Sydney that has this on line.
Laurie
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 18
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 08/05/93 7:59p
Subj: Fusion cd-16 Refer: NONE
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On 08-01-93 HENRY PAUL wrote to ROBERT DE SONIA...
HP> -> Well... The Fusion 16 comes with a PAS16 with a propietary Sony
HP> -> interface instead of the normal SCSI, so it not really 'the normal
HP> -> PAS16'. That's the only difference, though.
HP>
HP> Nope, Media Vision boards ARE SCSI, it's the Sounblasters that use a
HP> proprietary interface.
Henry, Robert *IS* correct... I have a sample of both types of PAS 16
(SONY bus and SCSI) and they *ARE* different....
BTW, from what I have been told, the SONY bus version is an OEM only
so you won't be able to buy it without a MM kit!
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: TYRONE ROSSOW Number: 19
To: JACK O'NEILL Date: 08/05/93 11:26p
Subj: hELP!? Soundblaster CDROM Refer: NONE
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Hiya Jack!
JO>Tyrone,
JO>The driver you are looking for is titled, SBPCD.SYS. It is in the
JO>root directory fo the installation disk. If you can't find it there
JO>you can download the latest version from CL's BBS ((408)-428-6600).
thanks mate :) I actually worked it out after much sweat and bother, I am new
to the ibm, and eventually found it mentioned in the config/autoexec. Wow, so
this echo goes to america does it? I wasnt expecting a reply from there :)
Hopefully you arent near the places where the floods are, like Iowa. Bye,
Tyrone
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From: STEPHEN RANSON Number: 20
To: TERRY WOOD Date: 08/05/93 2:01a
Subj: Red Hot Cd's Refer: NONE
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Terry, The Australian CD-ROM Club has a good range of image discs
available which should suit your needs. We will snail mail you an
inquiry pack. You can call us for nix on (008) 811190 if you have any
questions.
ork\CITABBS.MSG
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From: STEPHEN RANSON Number: 21
To: VICTOR ZDANOWICZ Date: 08/05/93 2:01a
Subj: Cd-rom Refer: NONE
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VZ>Can anyone please tell me the price (or recomemdation of brand) for a
VZ>
VZ>CD-ROM with 300 - Access time, 300kb/sec transfer rate, XA
VZ>compatiblity, Audio-
VZ>CD Compatible, able to use SB-16 or similar for sound.
VZ>
VZ>
VZ><Must be avaliable in Sydney Australia>.
VZ>
Victor,
The NEC CDR 84-1 fits all the above criteria, specs are:
I/F: SCSI-2
Access Time: 280 msec
Data Txfr: 300 Kb/sec
The drive can be purchased in a kit with the PAStudio16 sound
card/interface, and 8 CD titles for $1775
A second option is the CD16A Creative Labs upgrade kit which includes
the SD-16ASP and a CR563 drive which is double spin, multi session photo
CD compatible, and 10 CD titles for $1399. As yet I don't have actual
specs on this drive.
Stephen Ranson
Australian CD-ROM Club
Voice (008)811190, Fax (06)2914591
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From: DOUGLAS NEUMAN Number: 22
To: ALL Date: 08/03/93 9:21a
Subj: NEC CDR-72 CDROM FOR SALE Refer: NONE
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Hello All!
I have a NEC CDR-72 for sale for $170.00. This is an external CDROM,
heavy duty, built to last. This cdrom is not MPC compliant, but does
have a transfer rate of 150K/sec and access time of 370ms. Also
includes a NEC controller card, with necessary drivers, so nothing else
is needed to make this cdrom work. Also includes 5 cases to hold your
CDROMs. This drive is perfect for any BBS sysop who wants to add an
external CDROM to their system at an affordable price. For info please
call 1-201-818-3547, 9-5, EDT or 1-914-351-3325, after 6 PM, EDT.
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From: ROY NEUDECKER Number: 23
To: DAVID CALVIN Date: 08/05/93 8:59p
Subj: Cd-rom help! Refer: NONE
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DC> Ok, I'll have a 486dx2/66 in two weeks so that won't be a problem. This
> raises another question though, do these level 1 & 2 specs concern your
> computer or the CD-ROM drive, or both? My computer will handle
> anything, but do you know what level 2 is for the drive? Thanks!
Yes both computer and drive are mentioned in the specs. The speed of the
drive controls how fast the information is found on the disk and how
fast it is read into the cpu. The speed of the cpu controls how fast the
image is projected onto the monitor. I suppose having an accelerater
card would make a difference too. Although an accelerater card is not
mentioned in the specs. Like for example my Diamond Viper VLB
accelerater has a WinMark of 50. The speed which this board puts an
image on the screen is unbelievable.
Unfortunately I do not remember what the specs are. They have been
posted in this area before. Just keep watching for them someone will
probably post them again.
Hope this is a help,
Roy
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From: DAVID M. WHITE Number: 24
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/05/93 1:49p
Subj: RED HOT CD'S Refer: NONE
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If you publish a catalog, I would appreciate a copy of it. You
can send to: David M. White, 452 N. Bull Run, Tucson, Az 85748.
Thanks,
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From: DAVID M. WHITE Number: 25
To: CHRIS CONKLIN Date: 08/05/93 1:52p
Subj: Free Catalog Refer: NONE
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I would appreciate receiving a copy of your catalog. You can send it to:
David M. White, 452 N. Bull Run, Tucson, Az. 85748
Thanks,
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From: ROY COCHRUN Number: 26
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 08/06/93 5:58a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Refer: NONE
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What was your Mitsumi problem and how did you fix it? I've got very
strange problems with mine since I replaced my 386SX/20 board with a
486DX/33 (Cyrix chipset). -- regards, Roy Cochrun
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From: LEWIS BULLARD Number: 27
To: ERIC TREMBLAY Date: 08/05/93 9:29a
Subj: MAGNAVOX CDD 461 CD-R Refer: NONE
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This cd-rom is not compatable with your system? It wouldn't happen to be
a Packard Bell? My rom was not compatable with the PB xt!
... And God said, Let E=1/2m(v^2)-2(e^2)/r and there was light!
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From: ED GEORGE Number: 28
To: DIANE PENCIL Date: 08/01/93 11:34p
Subj: Corel Artshow Refer: NONE
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DP> > Hello Scott.
DP> > I received everything now. Thanks a lot.
DP> > Let me know if you have any cd-rom of ATM Fonts. If you want leave me a
DP> > mesage here or write to me. Thanks again for everything.
DP> > Jorge Gutierrez.
DP>Do one of you guys have the corel art show disk available?
DP>I am looking for one. How much if so?
DP>Diane
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Diane, I have one available at $49.00 plus shipping. Call CD'S 'R US at
617-328-9240
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From: ED GEORGE Number: 29
To: BILL GEE Date: 08/01/93 11:40p
Subj: Marginal CD-ROM Drives Refer: NONE
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BG>CB> I was wondering, I have a Mitsumi CD-ROM drive
BG>CB> at the moment & I want
BG>CB>to buy a Toshiba 3401 model CD-ROM drive that has a 200
BG>CB>ms access time, 330 k
BG>CB>data transfer... but the drive only sells by itself, no
BG>CB>interface card. The
BG>CB>price for it is pretty enormous, $700. Do you need absolutely need the
BG>CB>interface card to play games, use data CDs and play
BG>CB>audio CDs and if you do,
BG>CB>what do you get...
BG>In fact, you are required to have an interface to use the drive for anything
BG>Without it, you have a $700 paperweight! Unfortunately, the Toshiba will
BG>not work with the Mitusmi interface card. It requires a SCSI host adapter
BG>of some kind. Cheap ones are $60-$80. One worth having is $150-$200, and
BG>the really good ones are $250 and higher.
BG>My definition of a host adapter worth having is one that includes BIOS
BG>support for hard drives, supports SCSI-2 commands, and has an ASPI driver
BG>available. In my opinion, you will be very well served in the future with a
BG>SCSI host adapter.
BG>Bill Gee
BG>--- FidoPCB v1.3 [ff034/c]
BG> * Origin: Computer Specialties BBS - Overland Park, KS (1:280/325)
$700.00 seems awfully high without an interface, even if we're taking
about an external. You can get a Toshiba 3401B internal w/ Future Domain
controller (that's the one they package with it) for approx $US600. Call
CD'S 'R us at 617-328-9240 if you're interested. We have it in stock for
immediate delivery. Visa & Mastercard welcome with NO surcharge.
___
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From: DEREK IOVIENO Number: 30
To: KYLE PINKLEY Date: 08/05/93 3:31p
Subj: Yup Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hmm. I not sure. I don't think that would matter. If the files are all zipped
up and contain a file_id.diz in them. Then you probably need to just download
some cd door or something and it will scan all the zip's and everything or
something. I'm not familiar with renegade, you should ask some renegade sysops.
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From: LOIS FRANKEL Number: 31
To: RICH RUBIN Date: 08/04/93 10:46p
Subj: Questions... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 07-26-93 10:29 Rich Rubin shared these words of wisdom:
RR> 1] Does anyone know ANYTHING about Microsoft's Encarta? Is
RR> it better or worse than the other encylopedia? Anything?
See the August issue of PC Magazine for brief reviews of Groliers,
Compton's, and Encarta.
... New Mail not found. Start whine-pout sequence? (Y/N)
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From: JOHN BRANCIFORTE Number: 32
To: "ALL" Date: 08/03/93 10:45p
Subj: Cd-roms for sale! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
"Attention!", I have the following items FOR SALE: (1) "NEW Groliers MM Encyc."
(Dos) ver. 5.01 - This Is It,"The Latest" with Motion Video Clips, Photos,
Maps, Sounds etc.. Asking = $40.00 + $3.00 Shp. Chgs.. Prepaid orders only! (1)
"The Family Doctor" 1992 - Asking = $15.00 + $3.00 Shp. chgs.. If interested
call me anyday bet 10 am & 6pm Mon.-Sun. at (813) 848-2698. Thanks, John B.
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From: DAVE SUMMERS Number: 33
To: ALL Date: 08/03/93 12:27a
Subj: CD-ROMs and DESQview Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I've got another question (even though my first one never got answered).
I just bought a new MPC Sound Blaster CD-ROM drive and tried running the
CD-player in a DESQview environment. I'm currently using QEMM-386 as my memory
manager.
When I tried running the CD-Player in a window, I got a message from QEMM
prompting me to reboot or terminate the program. Then when I tried loading
MSCDEX again it said it's already loaded and refuses to let me re-load the
CD-Player which forces me to reboot.
Maybe I should be posting this in the DESQview echo area, but I'm sure one of
you have probably had this happen to you (then again, maybe not and I'm a
dimwit).
Anyway, I tried switching the DMA jumpers on the SBPRO card to DMA 3 thinking
that would work but it didn't.
I'd appreciate any help (even if you just want to say I'm a dumb a#@ and should
consider selling my CD-ROM:).
Dave Summers (setting himself up for a slam) in Rantoul
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From: EDDIE THOMSON Number: 34
To: DAVE SUMMERS Date: 08/02/93 9:35a
Subj: Telegard with CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Dave Summers:
Sunday August 01 1993 11:05, Dave Summers wrote to All:
DS> I just bought a MPC CD-ROM drive for my BBS and am currently running
DS> Telegard 2.7. I just ordered about 2 gig worth of shareware and it should
DS> be here Wednesday. Since I want to get it up and running immediately, I
DS> was wondering if anyone out there has set up a CD-ROM with Telegard
DS> before. What I'm really trying to find out is this...do I have to
DS> physically create each and every directory then upload the files onto the
DS> board and plug in all those file descriptions or are there .DIR files
DS> included?
Hmm...well, it depends on the CD. I've never seen or heard of a CD that
had Telegard's DIR files, however in Telegard Utilities (you should have a
copy...if not there's one over here), there's a program called BBS2DIR I think.
It's a program that converts FILES.BBS (which comes with most CDs) to a .DIR
file for Telegard. But you will probably have to manually add the areas for
the CD.
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From: ALLEN BURLESON Number: 35
To: ALL Date: 08/04/93 11:54a
Subj: WILLIE BEAMISH CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Has anyone purchased this cd? Saw it pretty cheap at a computer fair.
I haven't played the game before. Is it interesting or boring?
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From: GREG CRUISE Number: 36
To: ALL Date: 08/04/93 10:18p
Subj: Wanted Cd-rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello out there i'm looking for a used CD-ROM drive leave a message
here or call me at (216) 678-4342 with the price and all the info
thanks
--- The Msg Mgr for TDBS
* Origin: Akron Info & Party! 24 Lines! 11 CD ROMs! (1:157/617)
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From: SEAN EAGAN Number: 37
To: ALL Date: 08/05/93 6:52p
Subj: *Wanted! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
WANTED!
Your DEAD CD-ROM Drives!
I am Looking for TOSHIBA XM-3201B's and NEC's ONLY!
I want them! They are just sitting around gathering dust.
Looking For Toshiba and NEC!
I WANT THEM! Sell them to me!
Call me and we'll discuss a fair price or Reply here!
Might as well make some money on them!
Sean Eagan
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From: LUCIANO MUNHOZ Number: 38
To: DAVID ELEF Date: 08/04/93 3:59p
Subj: Problem!!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Hi,
> I recently purchased a Creative Labs Multimedia Upgrade Kit with 8 cd's.
> Now my problem came when I tried to record some music from a cd disc to
> my hard disc. I wanted the recording to be high quality so I went to
> change the recording option from 8-bit to 16-bit sound (In the Kit came
> a Sound Blaster Pro 2 stereo card).
The Sound Blaster Pro 2 is not an 16-bit card.
[]s
Luciano
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From: MANUEL CHAVES Number: 39
To: ANTONIO Date: 08/04/93 8:54a
Subj: DownLoad Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Antonio, como vai ? Tudo Bem ?
Esta sumido.
Um favor, voce podeia liberar para DownLoad a Area de Clipper do CD-Rom ?
Abracos, Manuel.
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From: GREG SORCSEK Number: 40
To: ANYONE Date: 08/06/93 11:49a
Subj: MSCDEX/Drivers Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Some basic information would be appreciated:
-
I recently acquired a Toshiba CD-ROM drive with a controller card and some, but
not much, documentation. I'm not sure if I need the DOS extensions (I assume
that I do) and apparently there are no drivers included. So...
-
What exactly does MSCDEX do and where can I get it?
Are drivers available anywhere besides Toshiba?
-
Does each CD use its own reader software?
-
I'm sure this is all elementary stuff, but I never needed to get into CD-ROMs
and managed to avoid learning much about them. Any information would be a big
help in getting this drive set up. Thanks.
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From: STEVE PESANT Number: 41
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/06/93 8:55a
Subj: CD'S ON SALE! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Good day there Mike;
SP> BTW ---> Did you receive any of my previous
SP> messages. I have never
SP>received a response yet. Just thought I'd ask...
SP>Anyways, on to the real thing. The SOund Sensations
MS> ROM is a CHESTNUT CD,
SP>right? Um, was wondering what type of files are on
SP>it. How large of a disk is
SP>it? and of course, is it BBS ready. If so, add it to
MS> my other lists as things
SP>would like to order.
MS> Steve,
MS> Yes, I replied but I'm not sure about Fido right now
MS> because I heard one of
MS> the major hubs out west crashed recently. Anyway, The Sound Sensations is
MS> *around* 200mb, and is not BBS-ready as far as file listings go.
MS> Take care,
MS> .\\ike
Um, I have NOT received any of your messages except for the above....Um
if you could resend them if possible then I could find out where we both stand
within the communications ranks (grin)..
P.S. I'm still very interested in getting some of these CDs soon!!!
-=Cheers=-
Steve.
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From: STEVE PESANT Number: 42
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/06/93 8:58a
Subj: DOWNLOAD OUR CATALOG!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MS> To all CD users who would like to receive Starvector's catalog of the 300+
MS> CD-ROM titles that we stock, please feel free to call our new BBS at
MS> 509-457-0206. The system is using a U.S.R. Sportster V.32bis, so you
MS> should have no problem logging on at any speed between 300bps and
MS> 14,400bps.
>>>> All callers may download our catalog on the first call! <<<<
MS> While online, you may want to download one or more of the CD-ROM file
MS> listings that are available.
MS> ---
MS> * SLMR 2.1a * I still miss my ex-wife, but my aim is getting better.
MS> --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00
MS> * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The
MS> Chat DOOR (1:3407/101)
Do you have a Fido Net node number or do you still use the one over at
the old BBS?....I've tried NetMail to you before but the sysop of the BBS told
be that you didn't you the QWK mail packer (or something along that line) and
that you wouldn't receive any of the mail...
-=Cheers=-
Steve.
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From: JOHN CALLICRATE Number: 43
To: CHARLES HORSEY Date: 08/03/93 6:16p
Subj: Texel & Adaptec Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
You're exactly right, I couldn't believe it, but I overlooked
changing the lastdrive= statement from the recommended QEMM stuff.
Thanks!
* MegaMail 2.10 #0:John C., PO Box 6, Dallas, OR 97338 503/623-492
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 44
To: DAVID CALVIN Date: 08/05/93 8:20p
Subj: Encyclopedias Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Thanks for the advice. What price range can I expect to pay for
> Groliers? I just saw it for $35, is that a good deal? Thanks.
David,
We have the Grolier's Illustrated version 2.0 at $35. The MPC version
is $48. Call any time if interested.
Later,
.\\ike
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 45
To: ALL Date: 08/05/93 8:20p
Subj: A FEW $10 CD'S LEFT!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
STARVECTOR CD-ROM BLOWOUT SPECIALS!
Bibles & Religion...$10 Colossal Cookbook...$10 Our Solar System....$10
Shareware Overload..$10 Windows 93..........$21 SoundWAV............$24
Deathstar Arcade....$10 Powerpak Gold 3.0...$15 House of Games......$20
Ham Radio 3.0.......$10 Sound Sensations....$10 Windoware...........$10
Complete Bookshop...$10 Technotools.........$10 Too Many Typefonts..$10
Compton's Interact..$95 Clipart Goliath.....$10 Dictionaries/Lang...$10
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 46
To: ALL Date: 08/05/93 8:21p
Subj: CD PACKAGE DEALS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-------------[ CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS ]------------------------------------
4. Night Owl 8.0 5. Night Owl 9 6. CD Winbox 4. House of Games
Night Owl 9.0 Pier 2 Windows 93 Game Arena
------------- ------ ---------- ----------
$55 $59 $44 $35
SPECIAL BONUS: Powerpak Gold 3.0 Revised Edition only $4 w/ purchase!
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: RUSSELL NABER Number: 47
To: ROEL SARCENO Date: 08/06/93 3:09p
Subj: Pioneer DRM-604x Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Roel!
Wednesday August 04 1993, Roel Sarceno writes to Russell Naber:
RS> Russell,
RS>> Are you the same guy who sold me the Pioneer DRM-604x. Just wan
RS>> you know it works greatand your right. This CD Reader is fast.
RN>> Are you running yours with dos or os/2?
RS> I'm running it with DOS 6.0
RS> Roel
Should'nt be much difference between 5.0 and 6.0, I would like to contact you
voice if possible. netmail me your phone number and will call you at your
convience. I have several questions I would like to ask you.
Russell
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* Origin: BLACK DIAMOND BBS, GREYBULL WY , 307-765-2027 (1:15/24)
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 48
To: TIM MORAN Date: 08/05/93 5:21p
Subj: Re: Cd-rom Help! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> DC> have some kinda plug into the sound card (not an SCSI, something
-> DC> else).
-> DC> Does the Mitsumi? My ATI Stereo F/X (SB compatible) card has no
-> DC> place
-> I have a soundblaster myself but don't have a port either. The soundc
-> internal CD ports act as a separate controller card. The Mitsumi come
-> it's own controller card with two RCA jacks to hook up to your stereo
-> don't worry, if any software you purchase has ATI support then it wil
-> through the soundcard. I have no problems with it and think that it i
I have an ATI Stereo F/X too. Magnificent board! The SBPRO and SB16 have
a connector for either the internal speaker, or sound from CD-ROM.
I think the PAS's do too.
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 49
To: DAVID CALVIN Date: 08/05/93 5:25p
Subj: Cd-rom Help! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> anything, but do you know what level 2 is for the drive? Thanks!
The drive is 300kb/sec double-speed.
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 50
To: TIM WENAS Date: 08/05/93 5:29p
Subj: Mo Disk Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> optical drives that seem a lot cheaper, 650$ for the drives, and 40$
-> 1 20 meg cartridge? Don't know if you can connect them to a notebook
I don't what that is, but it isn't MO! The SMALLEST capacity for MO is 3
1/2" 128mb. A typical kit has drive, controller and 4 128mb disks for
$899!
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From: RON CHASE Number: 51
To: CHRIS CONKLIN Date: 08/05/93 1:41p
Subj: Free Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CC>C-3 Production Systems is now online. If you would like to
CC>receive a catalog of CD-ROM disks at discount prices, leave message here, gi
CC>me a call or write to the address below.
Send me a catalog
Ron Chase JR
Po Box 1091
Springfield OR 97478-0201
thanks,
* OLX 2.1 TD * OREGON SPORTS BBS 503-726-0240 24 hr buy and sell
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From: CHRISTOPHER SPATZ Number: 52
To: MONSTER MEDIA 1:120/288 Date: 08/05/93 12:00p
Subj: File Request Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Filelist.zip Please address this file to Christopher Spatz @ this
Fidoaddress 1:2607/402 Digital Obession.
Christopher Spatz
303:500/104 Nice Net
The Friendly new areound.
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From: GARY SHADE Number: 53
To: CHARLES CHOONG Date: 08/05/93 10:25p
Subj: MITSUMI DRIVES?? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Overheard Charles Choong to Gary Shade on the subject of MITSUMI DRIVES??
CC>i agree,
CC>got a mitsumi, its cheap, it works and it works
CC>charles
What many people overlook is the utility that a drive like the Mitsumi
offers. Due to it's affordability it allows many to get involved with
CD/multimedia computing than would otherwise be possible. Therefore it is
good for the industry.
It also serves to keep competition keen. Other companies are forced to
make their drives competitive in both performance and in price. Again, the
consumer wins.
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* Origin: Minnesota MinuteMan BBS 612 493-3558 (1:282/4025)
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From: GARY SHADE Number: 54
To: JOHN LARKIN Date: 08/05/93 10:28p
Subj: Re: * x-rated cd-rom * Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Louis Carresi to John Larkin on the subject of Re: * x-rated cd-rom *
LC> -=( LC>LC> rated cd-rom * )=-
LC>
LC> JL> *** Quoting Gary Shade to John Larkin ***
LC>
LC> GS> Why would anyone want to see animals going at it???
LC>
LC> JL> I believe he meant animals AND people...
LC>
LC>Why would anyone want to see animals AND people going at it???
I knew what he meant, but I said it accurately.
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From: GARY SHADE Number: 55
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/05/93 10:35p
Subj: MITSUMI DRIVES?? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Mike Shannon to Match Point on the subject of MITSUMI DRIVES??
MS>MP>They sell well 'cause they're affordable (U know cheap?) and they
MS>MP>offer a goo deal of power for what you pay for them. I will buy
MS>MP>shortly a Mitsumi LU-005S
MS>MP>and then I'll tell you. Even if a couple of disks don't work on
MS>MP>the Mitsumi (And that's apparently 'cause they contain more than
MS>MP>630/650 MB)
Really? I've been reading them. Was I not supposed to??
MS>MP>that does
MS>MP>no mean that they're trash! You said well, YOU DON'T SELL DRIVES,
MS>MP>and CERTAIN CD
MS>
MS>"Match",
MS>
MS>I didn't say they were trash, but a drive that only reads "certain"
MS>CD's is not of much use to me, and to many others I'm guessing. It's
MS>sort of like being stuck with a 360K floppy drive in this age of 1.2M
MS>disks.
MS>
MS>Just my opinion. . . don't burst any arteries over it.
well maybe mines really a Toshiba under this Mitsumi label. Let me
check.... Nope it's a Mitsumi - where do these rumors come from?
--- WM v2.05/93-0084
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From: HERRY HERMAWAN Number: 56
To: ALL ALL ALL ALL ALL Date: 08/06/93 5:26a
Subj: CD-ROMs 4 SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
FOR SALE >>>>>>>>
- COMPTON's Interactive Encyclopedia
New version 4 Windows
Retail $225, I sell this $150 NEW-sealed
Price includes 2 days S/H prepaid/COD-cash
- DIGITAL DREAMS - LOTSA gifs no ads ....
Great clean artistic pictures x
$20 + S/H
- Private Pictures - GIFS + Movies (GLs + a bit DLs)
xxx. NICE COLLECTIONS (less than 3% dupes)
$25 + S/H
CALL ME or leave a message here
Herry (612)-644-0719
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From: ALAN PERRY Number: 57
To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 08/06/93 3:30a
Subj: Re: About 20 Hitachi dri Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Terry Blount to All <=-
TB> I have about 20 used Hitachi internal cd rom drives
TB> available for $130 each. Interface cards that will run up
TB> to 4 of these drives are $60 and I have 4 bay external
TB> cases for $25 and power
TB> supplies for $25 and external cables for $25. You can also
TB> get a $10 discount on ANY shareware cd rom disc I carry
TB> when you
TB> purchase a drive. All my shareware titles are $29. Call
TB> 205-284-2552
TB> -!- Maximus 2.01wb
TB> ! Origin: Center of the Cosmos (1:3625/441)
Hi Terry!
Could you tell me the model number(s) of the Hitachi CD ROM drives
that you have available - I might be interested.
Also, are they compatible with Windows 3.1?
Can one of these drives either plug into, or be adapted to work on a
Soundblaster Pro 2 sound card which has an interface for a CD ROM?
Please leave me mail, thanks!
Alan.
... "Scotty, beam me up another message."
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 58
To: CHRIS CONKLIN Date: 08/06/93 7:17p
Subj: Free Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CC> C-3 Production Systems is now online. If you would like to receive a
CC> catalog of CD-ROM disks at discount prices, leave message here, give
CC> me a call or write to the address below.
Pls send a catalog to
M.Mulcahy
9300 Hamilton Drive
Fairfax, VA 22031
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 59
To: ALL Date: 08/06/93 11:01p
Subj: Groliers Encyclopedia Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am interested in purchasing the Groliers Multimedia Encyclopedia (MacIntosh
Version) to be utilized on an Apple CD300 CD-ROM. Additionally I am interested
in procurring Microsoft Bookshelf. Pls forward price quotes to :
Internet: michael.mulcahy@his.com...or
Netmail: 1:109/70.986
Tks...m2
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 60
To: ALL Date: 08/07/93 12:58a
Subj: US History CD ROM Refer: NONE
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I am interested in purchasing the US History CD-ROM in a MacIntosh Format to be
used in APPLE CD300 Player. Pls forward any quotes to this conference or
Internet: michael.mulcahy@his.com
Tks...m2
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 61
To: ALL Date: 08/07/93 1:04a
Subj: Earth Sciences CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am interested in procurring reference material that surrounds Earth Sciences.
Primarily, Geological information that high school students could utilize.
Hardware to be utilized is Apple CD300 CD-ROM Player. Please forward any
qoutes to this echo or via Internet: michael.mulcahy@his.com
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From: WEI WEN Number: 62
To: PHIL TREVORROW Date: 08/04/93 4:26p
Subj: Mscdex v2.22 Refer: NONE
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Phil Trevorrow wrote
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▒░▄ You need to use the mscdex version in dos 6.0 and not the creative labs
▒░▄I have the MM upgrade kit also and ran into that same problem. I changed t
▒░▄dos's mscdex and no problems.
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Did I mention I have problem with mscdex.exe? What I remember is I
was helping someone else with the problem, right?
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From: DANNY TONG Number: 63
To: ALL Date: 08/05/93 7:55p
Subj: Cd-rom rentals? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Found this on a net:
A "TRY-BEFORE-YOU-BUY" CD-ROM will be offered by IBM to PC manufacturers for
bundling with their systems. The CD will include dozens of fully functional
programs from major software publishers, including Microsoft, Micrografx and
Symantec. The programs can be used up to 3 times before they are rendered
inoperative. Users can then purchase an electronic key via an 800 number to
fully unlock the software and its documentation. The CD-ROM is based on
technology developed by InfoNow of Boulder, Colo. IBM plans to offer updated
CD-ROMs to manufacturers approximately every 30 to 60 days.
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From: DANNY TONG Number: 64
To: SAND DIRT Date: 08/05/93 7:46p
Subj: Sound hook-up Refer: NONE
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SD> I need some help with routing CD Audio output thru my sound card.
SD> I have a PAS 16 for the sound card.
It's all documented in the PAS16 owner's manual. You need a "special" audio
cable from any CD-ROM or sound card dealer.
SD> The CD drive came with the computer, a Wang 750CD, and I'm not sure
SD> what brand it is. The model is CR-521-B. I think it's made by a
SD> German outfit, since the manual is in english and german.
CR-XXX is a Panasonic model number. Is there any German CD-ROM drives?
Make sure that CD-ROM drive model has an audio out connector. I have a PAS16
and a Panasonic CR-532 (SCSI-II).
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From: JEFF ROSE Number: 65
To: STEVE ROY Date: 08/05/93 10:14p
Subj: Re: CD's in Canada? Refer: NONE
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On 08-02-93, STEVE ROY wrote:
SR> I have quite a few Cd's and I am in Vancouver, have Night Owl 7,8 & 9.
SR> Shareware Studio, So Much Shareware 3, Pier 2, Software Tiger and
SR> others.
SR> Where are you in Canada?
SR> Drop me some netmail if you can or leave me a # here if you are
SR> interested.
Steve, I don't have a CD-ROM system yet...just trying to figure out
what's available here in Canada (specifically Calgary).
Jeff Rose 8^)
..."Veni, vidi, veci." - Julius Caesar
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From: ED LION Number: 66
To: ROBERT MOORE Date: 08/06/93 10:05p
Subj: CD ROM Drives Refer: NONE
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-> Can I get four (4) drives, cable to connect the four drives,
-> one controller to connect the four drives, four caddies (if
-> required) and the software drivers for $445 plus UPS ground shipping
-> charges? If so could you leave me a message here and set them
-> aside. I will call you to place the order. I am assuming that you
-> have some sort of 'dead-on-arrival' replacement warranty?
-> You can also reach me at 804/340-9138 (my business number) or
-> 804/340-4457 (my BBS).
You might be better off getting a 6-disc CD changer, uses 1 drive
letter + 1 IRQ....and only 1 driver....
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From: PAUL NUSBAUM Number: 67
To: JOE ANKENBAUER Date: 08/06/93 9:01p
Subj: 7th guest incompatibiliti Refer: NONE
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JA> FROM THE SEPTEMBER ISSUE OF COMPUTER GAMING WORLD, p. 81 ... we have been
JA> able (with the help of MediaVision and Trilobyte) to
JA> resolve the DMA conflicts experienced with certain Pro AudioSpectrum 16
JA> (PAS16) sound cards. For most PAS16 owners, the
Thanks for the info.! Now I can actually buy the game, and see what happens
from there. Appreciate the help.......l8r!
-Pn
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From: MIKE WARWICK Number: 68
To: SCOTT BROOKER Date: 08/06/93 10:08p
Subj: OS/2 Mitsumi Driver Refer: NONE
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SB>Hi, Has anyone had trouble with the Mitsumi OS/2 CDROM driver v1.0 by J.P.
SB>Cossette working with the new version of OS/2 2.1
SB>better yet does anyone know of a good Mitsumi Driver for OS/2 that allows yo
SB>to access the CDROM from an OS/2 Session not just DOS???
Just got the cdrom version of OS2 2.1 and called IBM tech support as my
Mitsumi is not supported. They gave me the person/address below:
Torston Droste
C/O TOTRONIK
Hauptstaetterstr 35 DW-7000
Stuttgart 1, Germany
Tel: 49-711-24472
Supposed to have the only OS2 2.1 driver for the Mitsumi cdrom drives
at this time. Price quoted to me was $20.00 US.
Hope this helps...both you and me and all the other users wanting to run
OS2 2.1.
Only other thing you can do as far as I know is to call IBM tech support
and have them FAX or overnight mail a workaround - (need 21 1.44 FDs
to do it), and dump the OS to these from the cdrom and then do the
install that way. You still don't have access to the cdrom though as far
as I know.
Good luck...
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From: DAVID CALVIN Number: 69
To: JIM HOLMES Date: 08/05/93 12:44p
Subj: Cd-rom Help! Refer: NONE
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JH>Well David,
JH>I don't know about MPC stuff. My Drive is not MPC, and if I want to
JH>Hear Music, I just put a CD in my Stereo CD player and listen to it.
JH>Call Me old fashion, But I just don't understand why people want to
JH>listen
JH>to CD's on their computer!
I guess my message wasn't clear, I don't want to listen to music CD's on
my computer, I have a CD player for that. I just want to be able to
hear CD-ROM music and sound FX's on my CD-ROM drive.
... OVERDRAWN? What the hell?, I still have checks left!
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From: VINCENT CAPALBO Number: 70
To: JEFF WEBSTER Date: 08/06/93 3:58a
Subj: Re: Cd-Rom Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Jeff Webster to All <=-
JW> I just bought a Cd-Rom and I wanted to know if anyone could
JW> recommend a shareware Cd that would be good for my BBS.
Try a Night Owl. I heard theres a fairly recent volume out.
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From: CARL DELEO Number: 71
To: ALL Date: 08/04/93 12:58p
Subj: New CD Eagle Eye Refer: NONE
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- Over 600 Meg of Files in categories
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- One low price + dealer prices avail.
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From: TIM BANDY Number: 72
To: JASON WONG Date: 07/28/93 10:37a
Subj: Re: Encyclopedia Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Jason Wong to Carlos Fernandez Sanz <=-
JW> sorry to butt it - are the text in these encyclopedias comparable
JW> (in length/detail) to the multi-volume paper ones?
Good question! Since there are many varieties of reference sets, the
accurate answer is yes...and no. Yes, the CD encyclopedias compare
well with lower level 21 to 27 volumne sets such as Funk & Wagnals and
American Academic encyclopedias but none come even close to a serious
set such as Britannica or even World Book.
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From: TIM BANDY Number: 73
To: JOHN KORTINK Date: 07/28/93 10:37a
Subj: Re: G & R ROMs Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting John Kortink to All <=-
JK> Gosh it's hard to weed out the (un-)interesting ROMs. Why not have
JK> more reviews on here ? There's definately a need for them at the
JK> current prices !
I would skip the encyclopedias until a serious one comes out or you can
get one of the top ones for less than $40....There are many other books
that are good and worth the money, such as great book collections, the
bible collection (includes several holy book of different major religions,
the CIA\KGB fact book is great.
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From: GLEN DEAN Number: 74
To: DARRELL CRONE Date: 08/04/93 5:58p
Subj: Test Refer: NONE
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Well Darrell, I received it. :)
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From: JOHN SERRANO Number: 75
To: ALL Date: 08/05/93 12:57p
Subj: Loom on CD Refer: NONE
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I just bought an NEC CD-ROM drive that came bundled with software, notably
LucasArts "Loom." It's a great game, but the only problem
is that I need a hint on how to get out of a sticky situation.
You see, I've made it as far as the foundry-I'm in it, but since
the person with whom I've exchanged identies died (meaning I no longer
look like him), I'm basically stuck inside, listening to the conversation
between the foreman and the Bishop, as well as the incessant pounding by
Edgewise:)
Thanks for your assistance,
John
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From: PETER RALLIS Number: 76
To: POE LIM Date: 08/04/93 8:00p
Subj: SCSI card for CD-ROM drv. Refer: NONE
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PL> Thanks for the info; unfortunately there are no shipped drivers for
PL> OS/2 2.x form that manuf as far as I know.
Poe,
"The 400 is both I/O register and command compatible with the Adaptec
1540/1542 series running under any operating systems currently
supporting Adaptec drivers. The following operating systems currently
support the Adaptec:
****
* OS/2 2.O
****"
The above is from the Alpha Research Manual.
BTW is Poe in fact your first name as in the Occidental manner or last
as in some Oriental of the cultures' manner?
Peace.
peter...
... Damn...If that's Shinola what did I just polish my shoes with?
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From: MARK WOMACK Number: 77
To: TOM MILLER Date: 08/07/93 2:04p
Subj: Cd-rom Help! Refer: NONE
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TM> What Mitsumi software requires an awful lot of ram to run? As far as
TM> I know all cd drives use Microsoft's MSCDEX program.
I have the Mitsumi drive and you must load 2 files: The .SYS file in
your config.sys and the MSCDEX in your autoexec.bat. Combined they
take around 40K and that's with NO buffers. They say in the manual to
increase your buffers for better performance. If you increase the
buffer on the MSCDEX to 64 (the maximum), it hits a whopping 144K
just for that file alone.
For the life of me, I can't get the .SYS file to load in high memory.
I use QEMM but even went as far as to install 386MAX on my system.
Neither will let me load the file high - both lock up my system when
they boot. I've rebooted about 500 times over this and just gave up.
Anyone else not able to load the .SYS file high?
... Despite the cost of living, it remains popular.
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From: STEVE PESANT Number: 78
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/07/93 9:30a
Subj: CD's Refer: NONE
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Hi there Mike,
About 2-3 weeks ago you first listed a handful of CD-ROM packages...I
was interested in a couple of the packages, Unfortunately I cannot remember
which nunmbers I wanted...(It's been a while) Anyways, If you could repost
those packages to allow me to take a quick look...My first order will be off
and running immediately...
BTW - I requested the Night Owls 7.0 to be held awhile ago...Do you still have
thtone set aside for me? (Please?!?!?!)
In those packages you gave the option of purchasing the Powerpack Gold v.3 for
$4 with a purchase (Put me down for one of those disks too please.)
Thank-you Mike,
-=Cheers=-
Steve.
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From: KYLE PINKLEY Number: 79
To: DEREK IOVIENO Date: 08/07/93 11:13a
Subj: Yup Refer: NONE
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-> Hmm. I not sure. I don't think that would matter. If the files are al
-> up and contain a file_id.diz in them. Then you probably need to just
-> some cd door or something and it will scan all the zip's and everythi
-> something. I'm not familiar with renegade, you should ask some renega
->
->
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->
Well, the ZIP's are like DISK????.ZIP I think that may make a
difference. You're the only one that has replied. I'll keep trying.
<grin> Thanks!
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From: KYLE PINKLEY Number: 80
To: ALL Date: 08/07/93 11:13a
Subj: CD Refer: NONE
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Can you run the PC Sig 11 Shareware CD on a BBS? Wondering.
Thanks!
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From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 81
To: ALAN PERRY Date: 08/08/93 9:30p
Subj: Re: About 20 Hitachi dri Refer: NONE
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AP> Could you tell me the model number(s) of the Hitachi CD ROM drives
AP> that you have available - I might be interested.
They are 3500's
AP> Also, are they compatible with Windows 3.1?
Yes.
AP> Can one of these drives either plug into, or be adapted to work on a
AP> Soundblaster Pro 2 sound card which has an interface for a CD ROM?
No. The sb pros only work with Panasonic drives as far as I knmow.
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From: PAUL HUNTER Number: 82
To: PHIL TREVORROW Date: 08/06/93 9:19a
Subj: Re: mitsumi drives?? Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Phil Trevorrow to Match Point <=-
PT> Some of those disks are over 630 Megs and they work fine. I have the
PT> 16 bit controller card. Seems the older 8 bit card was causing a lot
PT> of problems.
What kind of problems?? 'Cause I'm using the 8 bit card and I've had
no problems what so ever.
TTYL.....:->
=-=- Paul Hunter -=-=
~~~~~~~~~~~
SysOp Of The Syruss System ][ 1:250/910
... Darwin's Law: Nature will tell you a direct lie if she can.
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From: VICTOR HEALEY Number: 83
To: DENNIS TENN Date: 08/07/93 8:06a
Subj: Mistumi/Sb/Sbpro Refer: NONE
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DT> I didn't intend to "pass incorrect information around." I agree that
DT> the Mitsumi and the SBPro are interconnetively compatible from a sound
DT> stand-point via the audio connection cable. What I understood
DT> (unfortunately I was wrong) was if the Mitsumi could be attached and
DT> controlled via the SBPro. And I admit I was wrong.
What a man! If only the rest of us would so readly admit our mistakes!
By the way I noticed a message that IBM is apparently going to write a
driver for the Mitsumi so that it will interface better with OS2 2.1.
An awful lot of Mitsumi's are being sold in this area. Micro Center
here in Marietta Georgia is selling them as fast as they get them in
stock. Sometimes the weeks shipment is gone BEFORE THE WEEKEND! I also
noticed a prediction in "Atlanta's Computer Currents" that Cdroms will
drop to $50 range in a couple of years as volumn of shippments continue
to increase and economies of scale are realized. I bet Mitsumi will be
one of these in one form or another if this holds true. What do you
think?
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From: VICTOR HEALEY Number: 84
To: CARLOS BENITZ Date: 08/07/93 8:17a
Subj: Mistumi/Sb/Sbpro Refer: NONE
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CB> I don't think these people are deliberatly promulgating
CB> disinformation as much as answering two different questions.
CB> Some people then say, correctly, that no you can't expect the
CB> SBP to work with the Mitsumi (not saying that they mean it as a
CB> controller card). Others say, correctly, that you can just
CB> modify the audio plug and plug it in. It's an imprecise
CB> question.
Point well taken. It seems to me that I read recently (August Magazine
or paper) some audio card maker was going to release a special version
of their card with a Mitsumi interface rather then a scsii interface.
I'll try to remember to post that bit of information if I can find it
again. It may be of interest to others.
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From: VICTOR HEALEY Number: 85
To: DAVID WEIL Date: 08/07/93 8:43a
Subj: Mistumi/Sb/Sbpro Refer: NONE
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DW> ..>It is very easy to hook a Mitsumi to a SB card. Merely pop up the
DW> ..>retaing fingers on the audio cable at one end and slide out the 4 pins
DW> ..>and rearrange them in the exactly the opposit order. Plug into the SB
DW> ..>card and instant compatiblity.
DW> So you need to get the cable that has the left and rightr channel
DW> connectors on one end and then the one little plug in connector onthe
DW> other and then just reverse the wires that go to the little plug?!
DW> Kinda confused here!
DW>
DW> Dave
DW> SysOp, Erotic Nirvana
DW> Federal Way, Washington
DW> 206.661.8834
DW>
Dave you got the idea. See page 12 of Mitsumi installation Manual Ver
1.0 [1992H]. Pin 1 Right Audio Pin 2 Ground Pin 3 Left Audio Pin 4 Ground
Page 13 of Creative Technology LTD Sound Blaster 16 ASP's Getting
Started has a chart of Audio Connector Pin Definitions. Change one end
of your audio cable so electrically it is Pin 1 Ground Pin 2 Left Audio
Pin 3 Ground Pin 4 Right Audio If you have only a three wire audio cable
ie both grounds were tied to one pin, instead of Pin 1 Right Audio Pin 2
Grounds tied together Pin 3 Left Audio Pin 4 No connection You make it Pin
1 No connection Pin 2 Left Audio Pin 3 Grounds tied together Pin 4 Right
Audio Now you answer me a question what is this in your message? DW>
206.661.8834
Is that Fido net routing to your BBS?
Victor Healey, Atlanta Georgia
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From: VICTOR HEALEY Number: 86
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 08/07/93 9:19a
Subj: Mistumi/Sb/Sbpro Refer: NONE
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HP> I feel the same way! The CD-ROM industry is rapidly and vastly changing.
HP> Half of the companies you see may go chapter 11 soon.
Some may, but I believe most will merely cut their prices to go after
the market. The one that sells the most will be the one that ultimately
will make the most money off of CDROM drives. Mitsumi is supposed to be
shipping double speed drives now according to the sales people at Comp
USA and Micro Center. None have shown up as of this date in Atlanta.
HP> You never know... Even if a new drive comes along you like, there are
HP> still tons of people who have never had one that would probably think
HP> that $150-$200 is a steal!
I sold my first Mitsumi looking for a better drive for $200 (I paid
$300 in Jan 1993]. The buyer who initally thought he got a great bargin
at my expense showed me a week later that you could buy it for $195
locally. He's still happy though mildy annoyed [I spend considerable
time helping him]. I went out an bought another Mitsumi for $189 at the
end of June after trying other drives for several weeks as they just
can not be beat for value at the current time. Today one may notice
that Mitsumi's are $185 in the Atlanta area. Computer dealers must be
like grocery stores and turn over their inventory every few days in
order to make money on such rapidly falling prices. What do you think?
What has happended to those that bought a stock of Apple computers
recently? Price cut 4 times in last mont or two. Are they price
protected by the manufacture or do they eat it?
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From: CARLOS BENITZ Number: 87
To: CHARLES CHOONG Date: 08/06/93 5:30p
Subj: Mitsumi Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CC>due to decorations on the front surface of the disc. Heavier disc
CC>are better due to the weight causing the whole disc to sit on
CC>the drive, more weight=mg . So in case of a defective disc. go to
CC>brashs or tandy , get one packet of bands (usually 8 ), wrap the bands
CC>around the disc , this will create more weight and balances the disc
CC>the disc should now work flawlessly. if when you look at the disc
Could you describe these bands in a bit more detail? Are they
made of lead, rubber? Are they designed for this use (are they
found with the CD stuff) or are they actually for some other
purpose?
* SLMR 2.1 * Give me liberty or give me death.
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From: CARLOS BENITZ Number: 88
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 08/06/93 5:34p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Refer: NONE
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AB>my problem to a friend, and he had the same problem, and he also told me
AB>how to fix it and now my Mitsumi is working fine, Thanx and I shall
And how DID you fix the problem?
* SLMR 2.1 * Don't blame the tool for the murderer's work.
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From: BETH CORRIGAN Number: 89
To: ALL Date: 08/04/93 9:28p
Subj: kodak photo CD Refer: NONE
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hi
does anyone know how i can get photo cds made or where i can get them made.
also if anyone has the phone # of kodak please post it! thanxs for any info!
Beth
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From: JANUSZ SUROWKA Number: 90
To: WEE YUNG Date: 08/04/93 10:43p
Subj: CDROM forsale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
do you have a bare Creative labs CD-ROM drive to hook up to a SB 16 ASP or
mabye a Panasonic(Bare) model CR521, CR523? would you trade?
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From: JANUSZ SUROWKA Number: 91
To: PAUL NUSBAUM Date: 08/04/93 10:52p
Subj: 7th Guest incompatibilities. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Buy a SB 16 ASP, trust me it's better! i ran 7th guest on it, no prob.
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From: DREW IANNUZZI Number: 92
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/06/93 8:16p
Subj: CD-DUPE Chart.. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> DI>NIGHT OWL - v8.0
-> DI>NIGHT OWL - v9.0
1%? EXCELLENT!
-> We have them all in stock (except Shareware Gold). Give me a call if
-> you're interested!
Actually I am interested but have to hang for another CD Drive.
Going to use it for my board.. Have currently 2 CD-ROM Drives online
and will add more soon. Can I reply and order through FidoNet? I will
move this into the CDROM 4SALE conference if possible. Thanx..
...Drew
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From: DAVID M. WHITE Number: 93
To: TOM GUELKER Date: 08/07/93 1:30p
Subj: PDR Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Can you tell me where you got the Physicians Desk Reference on floppy-all I
have been able to get info on is on disk. Any info appreciated.
Thanks
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From: MICHAEL KONOR Number: 94
To: ALL Date: 08/07/93 6:45p
Subj: CDROM Drives Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SCSI CDROMs For Sale:
Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM External $200.00
Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM Internal $180.00
Works great on MS-DOS, OS/2, Amiga, and Mac. Features 50 Pin True SCSI,
300ms access, 156k transfer, newest EPROMs installed, and 64k Buffer.
Service Center Refurbished. MPC Compliant. Warranty
205-837-5053 anytime.
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From: PATRICK SEELY Number: 95
To: ALL Date: 08/06/93 12:23a
Subj: WANTED: CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does any one have a CD entitled 'DARWIN' that they would like to sell/trade (A
CD with many of Darwin's books and notes).
Email me,
Patrick
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 96
To: ALL Date: 08/05/93 11:51a
Subj: Big Sky Special Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
The price on Big Sky Rom has been reduced from $48 to $26. This is a
very well put together shareware disc with 668 megs and 7155 files.
There is a file_id.diz file description in each zipped file. The date
of each zipped file is that of the largest file in the archive, giving a
much more accurate representation than that of many CD-Roms currently on
the market. Big Sky is very popular on Computer Works BBS, and can be
previewed online.
Computer Works (205) 793-4481 Voice
CD-Rom Sales! (205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card & COD Orders
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From: GLENN SANDERSE Number: 97
To: TERRY WOODWARD Date: 08/07/93 12:36a
Subj: Cd Rom mastering... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
An alternative to the Philips is the new Ricoh, for only a little more
money than the Pinnacle, you get software for Sun, HP, DOS-compatibles and
Mac.
___
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From: GLENN SANDERSE Number: 98
To: SHAWN RUTLEDGE Date: 08/07/93 12:39a
Subj: Cd writing service Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
If you want a standardized method of putting non-formatted text onto a CD,
check out Dataware software for the Philips CD recorder and soon for the
Ricoh CD recorder. A soon to be released version of their software, using
CD-I (by Philips) players will have a standardized text formatting
structure that will you allow to view text with a machine you connect to a
TV.
If you just want to access Pagemaker files etc., if someone has items on a
hard drive, they can be easily put on a CD. If you have the Philips
recorder, you first have to download everything to a fast hard drive so
you can download to the recorder in a non-interrupted data stream. With
the Ricoh, the data stream does not have to be continuous. The JVC
recorder comes included with a hard drive for this requirement to not have
a non-interrupted data stream.
If you're waiting for a structure to purchase, or sell your information
onto a CD-R (recordable CD) just keep your eyes open. It already exists,
but unless your a qualified business, their marketing departments couldn't
be bothered to contact you yet.
Converting information from paper format, etc. as you envisioned is
impractical due to copyright problems and the expense of actually doing
the conversion.
___
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From: ELIZABETH RODIER Number: 99
To: ALL Date: 08/07/93 7:05a
Subj: Cookbooks on CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Has anyone tried using the Colossal Cookbook CD or the new ones called
Electronic Cookbook and Cookbook Heaven? Do they have any pictures or
just zipped files from a cooking echo?
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X SLMR 2.1a X Elizabeth
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From: PETER DETTELIS Number: 100
To: MARK WALKER Date: 08/06/93 11:10p
Subj: new rules Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I believe a separate Adult CD-ROM echo might serve a need in FIDOLAND. I
personally do not want to see it mixed in with the two existing CD-ROM echos as
it currently is.
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From: PETER DETTELIS Number: 101
To: BRENT WOOD Date: 08/06/93 11:12p
Subj: 1989 Grolier Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
The computer user group I'm affiliated with has a 1988 version of the Groliers
Encyclopedia on CD-ROM that is text only, comes with all docs in original
packaging, original disks, and transferable registration. If you have a good
offer, I will present it to our Board for a decision.
Respond here or call me at 719-495-0495 in the evenings.
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From: PAT PUSHOR Number: 102
To: ALL Date: 08/07/93 6:56p
Subj: Help! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am in desperate need of a disc of complete shareware source. I know somebody
makes one and I am having a tough time trying to locate it. If anyone knows
where I can grab ONE disc ( I can get it now in quantity, but...) I would be
very appreciative.
Thanks.
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From: JEFF COCHRAN Number: 103
To: PAUL NUSBAUM Date: 08/08/93 11:17a
Subj: 7th Guest incompatibilities. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
@> How can I get these patches? Thanks for the help, hopefully
@>they'll fix the problem.......
@>
Call Virgin, I think they might have a BBS or they might be on
Compuserve.
Jeff
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From: KIM JOHNSON Number: 104
To: SEAN EAGAN Date: 08/06/93 10:19a
Subj: *wanted! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>WANTED!
>
> Your DEAD CD-ROM Drives!
Make me an offer on an NEC cdr-35d?
kim
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From: JOHN HART Number: 105
To: ALLEN BURLESON Date: 08/07/93 2:30p
Subj: WILLIE BEAMISH CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Has anyone purchased this cd? Saw it pretty cheap at a computer fair
-> I haven't played the game before. Is it interesting or boring?
->
-> ---
-> * OFFLINE 1.54
->
It's pretty funny. His family acts like a bunch of brats. Sort of a
Simpson's adventure in some ways.
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From: DAVE SUMMERS Number: 106
To: EDDIE THOMSON Date: 08/07/93 12:42a
Subj: Re: Telegard with CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
While throwing darts at a picture of our
"Commander In Chief", I heard Eddie Thomson tell Dave Summers this:
ET> Hmm...well, it depends on the CD. I've never seen or heard
ET> of a CD that had Telegard's DIR files, however in Telegard
ET> Utilities (you should have a copy...if not there's one over
ET> here), there's a program called BBS2DIR I think. It's a program
ET> that converts FILES.BBS (which comes with most CDs) to a .DIR
ET> file for Telegard. But you will probably have to manually add
ET> the areas for the CD.
ET>
Yeah, it wasn't as hard as I thought it was going to be. It came with a
really elaborate door that made it a breeze to set up. I highly recommend the
MEGA CD-ROM series to anyone considering running a CD-ROM board.
The Handyman, Sysop
Home Improvement BBS
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 107
To: KIM LEE Date: 08/07/93 5:50p
Subj: SB16 and CD-ROMs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Kim!
On 08-06-93 Kim Lee wrote to Rowan Evans...
KL> RE> Look for a Panasonic CR562B or CR563 CD-ROM drive.
KL> RE> For bundles, look for the Creative Labs setup - SB 16 ASP and 8
KL> RE> games for $1175.00 (CX Computing, York St Sydney)....
KL>
KL> Are you sure it comes with the ASP chip? The Edutainment pack
KL> $1099 (8 CDs) doesn't, but the Creative pack does (10 CDs). $1250
KL>
KL> Those are my best prices I found in Sydney.
Well, it had the yellow "now with ASP signal processing" sticker on the
box.... And it was definitely an Edutainment kit...
BTW, if you are selling your CR562B, is it the Osbourne CR200 kit (drive,
paddle card, cable & software) or just the bare drive?? And how much??
(I'm after another!)...
Cheers!
o
/U\
... OFFLINE 1.52
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 108
To: MARTIN TAYLOR Date: 08/07/93 6:35p
Subj: Re: Encyclopedias Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Martin!
On 08-02-93 Martin Taylor wrote to David Calvin...
MT> > I'm going to be getting an encyclopedia on CD-ROM pretty soon, can
MT> > anyone recommend a good one? I'm looking for one that is very
MT> in-depth,
MT>
MT> It may have already been recommended, but the Microsoft
MT> Encarta is the CD encyclopaedia to have. Very good. I think
MT> it sells for about $250 USD. Here in Australia, I have seen
MT> it between $499-$599 AUD (The Aussie dollar is worth about
MT> 67 US cents at the moment).
You obviously haven't seen the Software Toolworks Encyclopaedia for
Windows Version 1.5 (available from Data Highway in West Aust for
$A105.00)....
IMHO, it leaves Encarta for *DEAD*!
I have both at work and very rarely does Encarta come out of its box (but
its owned by MS and is only on loan, in case you ask if I want to sell it)
The interface on Encarta is pretty, but the information is patchy, whereas
the info on STW is good but the interface isn't quite as good...
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 109
To: MARCUS LEE Date: 08/07/93 6:40p
Subj: Re: 16bit SC/CDROM kits Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Marcus!
On 08-05-93 Marcus Lee wrote to Graeme Merrall...
ML> GM>Hi. I know that the Creative Sounds multimedia kit, with CD
ML> GM>ROM player, 10 titles and ASP 16 bit Soundblaster retails
ML> GM>for around $2,000 plus GST (although you can get them for
ML> GM>much cheaper if you shop around)
ML> GST? Which country do you live in? In case you didn't know Hewson
ML> wasn't voted in and hence no GST...
Read his source BBS line - he's from the Land of the Long White Sheep! (NZ)
ML> GM> I'll really want to sell the whole pack for
ML> GM> around $1,250 (open to negotiation), but will consider selling
ML> GM> seperately at $700 for the CD player (plus all the disks) and
ML> GM> $500 for the soundblaster.
ML>
ML> Well thanks for asking but the price isn't all that great... I would
ML> only be after the 16ASP board... and I've seen it advertised new in
ML> the $400 mark...
The prices are *pretty good* when you consider that they're sheepskins
and not Aussie or US dollars... The only hassle is importing it - Customs
*MAY* get a bit snarky.....
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: PETER LANE-COLLETT Number: 110
To: STEVE BELL Date: 08/06/93 11:12a
Subj: Re: A couple of question Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message on <Jul 30> at <07:30>, Danny of (1:125/17) writes:
SB> I have the 7th Guest. Seeing as my video results matched most
SB> others (reading at 1% of optimal), what kind of VGA card is this game
SB> looking for? Has anyone gotten a higher reading than this? Has
SB> anyone achieved 100%?
D> I did. I have the Orchid ProDesigner IIs with 1 MB.
I did too. I have a 16 bit Sigma VGA Legend with 1Mb.
Make sure you don't have any video cards with 8 bit BIOS on them. If you have a
second card that is 8 bit, most "smart" 16 bit cards will switch into 8 bit
mode too.
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From: PETER LANE-COLLETT Number: 111
To: BOB KNOWLES Date: 08/06/93 11:19a
Subj: 7th Guest Fix Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message on <Aug 02> at <16:03>, Bob Knowles of (3:712/704) writes:
BK> Hi
BK> Does anyone know where I can get the "fix" for 7th Guest in Australia,
BK> preferably in Sydney?
Is something wrong with it??
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From: ARNE ROHDE Number: 112
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/01/93 9:38a
Subj: Sony Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I know this is off-topic, but I couldn't resist. Anyway, the
original posting should probably have been netmailed.
RE> SP> HHmmm...Well what't the money exchange from US to
RE> SP> Australian?
RE> Currently about $US1 = $A0.67....
Umm. Since when has the Aussie dollar been worth more than the US $?
Presumably it should have been: $A1 = $US0.67
RE> OK, if I were to buy the slower drive I have the following equation :-
RE> Panasonic CR521/3 $ 179.00
RE> add 33% for exchange rate $ 54.00 (approximately!)
According to my muddled old brain, 33% of $179 is very close to $60,
not $54. Maybe these new computers work a bit differently?
RE> gives Aussie dollars $ 233.00
RE> plus Airmail S&H $ 75.00 ($US50.00 * 1.33)
Again, my brain wants to disagree with your results. In this case
$75 is $50 * 1.5, not 1.33. $50 * 1.33 would be close to $67.
RE> plus customs duty $ 60.00 (20% duty CIF I believe!)
RE> plus sales tax $ 54.00 (15% on mulitmedia gear)
RE> Grand Total $ 422.00
But apart from those differences, there is a more fundamental
discrepancy. To get from $US to $A (assuming the given exchange rate)
you have to multiply by 1.5, not by 1.33. So $US1 = $A1.50 (approx),
not $A1.33. Your result should be more like the following:
$US $A
Drive 179 269
Airmail 50 75 (well at least that was right :-)
Duty 69
Sales tax 62
Grand Total 475
Regards, Arne
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From: SHAWN FULLER Number: 113
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/05/93 9:11p
Subj: Re: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Do any of those CD's handle more than 1 CD at a time?
Cheers ... Shawn
*FSED91m*
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From: SHAWN FULLER Number: 114
To: ALL Date: 08/05/93 10:03p
Subj: DMR600 & Amiga Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Has anyone used a Panasonic DMR600 with an Amiga?
I run Starnet BBS and I would like a multi CD-Drive but one that works
with the Amiga.
Any help would be Appreciated.
Cheers ... Shawn
*FSED91m*
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From: STEPHEN RANSON Number: 115
To: VICTOR ZDANOWICZ Date: 08/08/93 12:22a
Subj: Cd-rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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Date: 08-05-93 Msg # 6084
To: VICTOR ZDANOWICZ Conf: (63) Cd Rom
From: STEPHEN RANSON Stat: Public
Subj: CD-ROM Read: Yes
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VZ>Can anyone please tell me the price (or recomemdation of brand) for a
VZ>
VZ>CD-ROM with 300 - Access time, 300kb/sec transfer rate, XA
VZ>compatiblity, Audio-
VZ>CD Compatible, able to use SB-16 or similar for sound.
VZ>
VZ>
VZ><Must be avaliable in Sydney Australia>.
VZ>
Victor - Price change from my last message!!,
A second option is the CD16A Creative Labs Edu-tainment upgrade kit
which includes the SD-16ASP and a CR563 drive which is double spin,
multi session photo CD compatible, and 8 CD titles for $1165.
As yet I don't have actual specs on this drive, supposed to be 320 msec
and 300 Kb/sec.
Stephen Ranson
Australian CD-ROM Club
Voice (008)811190, Fax (06)2914591
Stephen Ranson
Australian CD-ROM Club
Voice (008)811190, Fax (06)2914591
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From: ANTONY WUTH Number: 116
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/05/93 12:07p
Subj: Wanted: Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Rowan,
02 Aug 93 21:54, Rowan Evans wrote to Antony Wuth:
RE> Go to Control Panel....
RE> Select Drivers.....
RE> Click on Add....
Got to here. And it prompted for a disk, I tried every one I thought might have
any drivers and did not find the CD Audio Driver.
RE> See how this goes!
No Good. How does windoze know where the drivers are.
Antony
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From: ANTONY WUTH Number: 117
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/05/93 9:26p
Subj: Wanted: Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Rowan,
02 Aug 93 21:54, Rowan Evans wrote to Antony Wuth:
RE> Go to Control Panel....
RE> Select Drivers.....
RE> Click on Add....
Got to here. And it prompted for a disk, I tried every one I thought might have
any drivers and did not find the CD Audio Driver.
RE> See how this goes!
No Good.
I got really mad and deleted Windoze and installed it Again ( From exactly the
same disks ) and now it works like it should.
Thanks for all the sugestions.
Seya
Antony
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From: ZAK SHERWOOD Number: 118
To: IAN BISHOP Date: 08/03/93 10:06p
Subj: Re: Australian CD-ROM retail Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Ian Bishop to Zak Sherwood <=-
IB> 1 x Simtel 20 Dec '92
IB> are one off items I wish to get rid of. Make an offer - the
IB> worst you'll get is a polite refusal.......
Well, I might be interested in this - would it be too much trouble to list
the areas it contains?
Where are you?
... Adult GIF files are meant for testing monitors.
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From: BOB SMITH Number: 119
To: DOUG CHARMAN Date: 08/05/93 5:28p
Subj: AH AH -- THERE ARE TWO BOB SMITHS Refer: NONE
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DC>Just keep looking around. You could always drive up to Ottawa,
DC>I'm sure that stores there are offering it at a good price. Since
DC>Corel 4.0 is relatively new, there are still a lot of people
DC>willing to sell 3.0 at a good price. Advertise that you are
DC>looking for it in this echo. Maybe mention the fact that you're
DC>located in Canada, it's easier to buy here than across the border
DC>with duty, customs, etc. Good luck and let me know if you're
DC>still having problems, I know a few people here that are soon
DC>going to be upgrading. Please Netmail me at 134/49.
Sorry,but you have the wrong Bob Smith -- this one's an Aussie!
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From: JULIAN LEVISTON Number: 120
To: PAUL PERRYT Date: 08/06/93 4:56p
Subj: Cherrybrook high Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I was just wondring if you go to cherrybrook technology high school, <That's if
you're that sorta age, 'course! ;-)> and if U do, whether U think itk it's a
good school?
Julian.
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From: CLYDE SISLER Number: 121
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/07/93 12:08p
Subj: CD PACKAGE DEALS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MS>-------------[ CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS ]------------------------------------
MS>4. Night Owl 8.0 5. Night Owl 9 6. CD Winbox 4. House of Games
MS> Night Owl 9.0 Pier 2 Windows 93 Game Arena
MS> ------------- ------ ---------- ----------
MS> $55 $59 $44 $35
MS> SPECIAL BONUS: Powerpak Gold 3.0 Revised Edition only $4 w/ purchase!
If didn't already have it I'd say that was a great deal! New release
coming out?
Everything else in the package deals were BBS ready shareware, how about
House of Games & Games Arena? Any more info?
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From: MARK GLENN Number: 122
To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 08/07/93 4:07p
Subj: CD ROM Drives catalog Refer: NONE
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Hello Terry!
please send a catalog to
Mark Glenn
2715 Linden St.
Des Moines, Ia 50312
thanks....
* WCE 1.10/2159 * ... I can't decide between EDLIN and Word for Windows...
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From: JAMES FRAZEE Number: 123
To: DON RIEB Date: 08/04/93 4:16p
Subj: Re: FREE CDROM Catalog. Refer: NONE
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Here is my address:
James Frazee
16810-126Th St Ne
Arlington, Wa 98223
... ARRRRRGGGHHH!!!! ... Tension breaker, had to be done.
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From: ANDREAS BERGER Number: 124
To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 08/02/93 9:36p
Subj: RULES! on adult disks Refer: NONE
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> BH> =======================>NOTE<=========================================
> BH> 6. As of the current date on this message, NO discussion of ADULT
> BH> CDROM's will be tolerated. As of this date, it is prohibited in this
> BH> echo. No advertisements of Adult discs will be permitted.
> Congratulations on a brilliant decision that will most likely NOT be
> appreciated by the masses.
I think if the discussion of adult disks does mot stop, the afficinados should
found an ared CDROM.XXX, where they can discuss their likes and dislikes. Me
personally, find it very boring to poll kilobytes of kilobytes from mail of
underdeveloped computerhackers. Get the real thing, don't stay saturday night
at home in front of an xxx-rated GIF picture.
YES I LIKE FLAMES
/\ FIDO 2:244/1372.8
/__\ INTERNET aberger@rbg.th-darmstadt.de
/ \ndreas Berger LOCATION Hessen, Germany, Europe
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From: PHIL HORNBY Number: 125
To: UWE KEPPER Date: 08/01/93 11:58p
Subj: Mitsumi LU005 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Uwe,
On Friday July 30 1993, Uwe Kepper wrote to Phil Hornby:
UK> but another question: how is it posible to run the lun005 on an
UK> audio-blaster-pro-4.0 soundcard ? i didn't get it :-( ...
well.....my Mitsumi LU005 came with a cable that connects the audio from the
drive to the controller card. The Soundblaster-Pro has a socket with an
identical socket, so I unplugged the lead from the CDROM controller, and
stuffed it into the SoundBlaster.
Unfortunately, this didn't work, as the pinouts are different :-)
Using a pin, or something similar, you have to remove the conductors from one
of the sockets, and re-assemble them to give the following connections:-
SB-PRO Mitsumi LU005
1................4 Left channel earth
2................3 Left channel audio
3................2 Right channel earth
4................1 Right channel audio
Phil.
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From: CHRIS FLYNN Number: 126
To: GREG CHAPMAN Date: 08/01/93 10:41p
Subj: Cover CD Refer: NONE
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GC> regularly, I have not got, and am anxious to obtain, the source code
GC> for these utilities.
GC> Does the CD contain the source code? Should I buy a copy?
'Ang on..........
No, just the executables.
Lot of rubbish on the disc too.
... Any contract of over 50 words has at least one loophole.
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From: CHRIS FLYNN Number: 127
To: LOUIS CARRESI Date: 08/01/93 10:42p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Lu005 Refer: NONE
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CB> Is that just my volume control (how far does yours turn) or what might
CB> be the prob ?
LC>
LC> Mine goes up to 11 !
ROTFL!
(My all-time 3rd favourite movie)
... Dyslexics have more fnu.
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From: VINCE SORENSEN Number: 128
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/06/93 10:46p
Subj: MITSUMI DRIVES?? Refer: NONE
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-> What I stated was based on what my customers tell me. If you had 100
-> customers contact you with complaints of read errors on their drives,
-> and 90 of them owned Mitsumi's, what conclusion would you reach?
That Mitsumis are very popular?
Vince
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From: DAVID CALVIN Number: 129
To: WILLIAM MORSE Date: 08/07/93 10:02a
Subj: Scsi Cdrom Refer: NONE
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WM>hello i have 7thguest and love it it worked after 3 days of work
WM>fixing the
WM>setup of autoexec.bat and config
I'm thinking of getting 7th Guest soon, what did you have to do to get
it to work? I'd like to be playing it in under 3 days from when I buy
it! :) Thanks
... Docs? Why would I want to look at the Docs. Nurses are better :)
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 130
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/07/93 5:33p
Subj: Fusion cd-16 Refer: NONE
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-> Henry, Robert *IS* correct... I have a sample of both types of PAS 1
-> (SONY bus and SCSI) and they *ARE* different....
->
-> BTW, from what I have been told, the SONY bus version is an OEM only
-> so you won't be able to buy it without a MM kit!
Has to be! I got info direct from Media Vision AND Creative Labs!
Media Vision's specs say SCSI. Creative Lab's say proprietary
(Panasonic).
Therefore, the Sony compatible version MUST be OEM 'cause Media Vision
doesn't list anything about it.
Chow for now,
Henry
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 131
To: CARLOS BENITZ Date: 08/07/93 7:15a
Subj: Magnto-optical disc Refer: NONE
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-> HP> Okay, The MO drive in the articles I have read, uses a laser to
-> HP> soften the plastic so a magnetic beam can change the disk.
->
-> A magnetic beam? Are you sure?
Yep, absolutely.
I wondered if the constant heating and cooling would 'wear' it out, but
most of the media isguaranteed for 10yrs. or longer.
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 132
To: SCOTT DAVIS Date: 08/07/93 9:51a
Subj: MITSUMI DRIVE AND SB16 Refer: NONE
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-> DS>having is after I play a music CD with the CDplayer program that c
-> DS>the card, and then remove the disk and stick in a disk with data i
-> DS>try to get a dir of a data disk, the system crashes. I have tried
-> DS>Anyone had the same probs??
->
-> DS>The System is a 386dx40 with a Ami Bios, 5 meg ram etc..
->
-> DS>Please get back to me as this is really getting on my nerves!
->
-> Are you using the hardware or software DMA polling drivers? and which
-> model is the drive (Should be on the drive unit as LU-005S or LU-002S
-> something similar..)
The player program may be a tsr, or it may change a configuration setup
to play music CD's.
The solution I see is to reboot after playing one.
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From: MICHAEL GEGGUS Number: 133
To: TIM MORAN Date: 08/06/93 9:08a
Subj: Re: DMA WOES Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Tim Moran to Scott Davis to Tim Moran <=-
TM>With T7G ( The Sev. Guest) you can't use any disk compression utilities suc
TM>use the mitsumi device driver that uses Software Polling not the one with t
TM>DMA transfer or else you won't be able to play the game no matter how you
TM>juggle your DMA jumpers. Otherwise it should work fine.
SD> that people tinker with it until it works..
Tim I'm running T7G from a mitsumi on DMA 5 IRQ 10 (default) and on a
WD 2200 that's been double spaced. Using all my drivers loaded high
(set-up by Memmaker). No problems here.............
... A clone is a clone.....just like a Toyota is a Ford is a Mercedes..etc
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From: ATSON NAKAYAMA Number: 134
To: DON KULHA Date: 08/07/93 7:59p
Subj: Mac Sevice Info Cd Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 08-04-93, DON KULHA wrote to ALL:
DK> ==== Apple Service Info CD (Service Source CD) Jan 93 edition ====
DK> Price: $18 includes shipping & handling in the U.S. (1st class)
Can you ship to tokyo, japan? If yes, please reply with price including
shipping & handling.
Thanks very much,
* Freddie 1.2.5 *
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From: JOHN KELLEY Number: 135
To: JOHN RUSNAK Date: 08/07/93 12:45p
Subj: MITSUMI NUMBER Refer: NONE
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>drive and (if one exists) a phone number for Mitsumi or whomever makes the
>drive?
POINT GROUP CORPORATION
1-612-628-9237
Mon - Fri 10 am - 5 pm Central Time
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From: JEFF PATTEN Number: 136
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 08/05/93 10:13p
Subj: New Mpc Specs Refer: NONE
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->> I think that's the idea. The industry gets together and
->> decides what specs should help the market by making people
->> feel that their current equipment
->> isn't up to snuff because it doesn't meet the new criteria.
->> Soon the their perfectly good, working system and buy a more
->> expensive, spiffy The industry rejoices. (See also: New Car
->> Sales tricks.)
HP> Excellent point! I don't have any need for 16bit sound... I don't
HP> even need 44.1khz sampling... I do, however like 20
HP> channels... I don't need a double-speed CD-ROM now either...
HP> They just publish that so the hardware makers can get even
HP> fatter off the consumers!
Computer technology moves much too fast to *not* produce a spec that seems
too demanding when it is first published. By the time there is a significant
amount of software written to the spec, the requirements will be in line with a
typical machine. If you write the spec to accommodate today's mainstream
hardware, the spec is inadequate by the time software shows up.
Jeff
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From: MIKE AVILA Number: 137
To: CHRIS CONKLIN Date: 08/06/93 5:45p
Subj: Free Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
*** Quoting Chris Conklin to All dated 08-03-93 ***
> C-3 Production Systems is now online. If you would like to
> receive a catalog of CD-ROM disks at discount prices, leave message
> here, give me a call or write to the address below.
>
> I will try to match or beat any advertised deal around to the best of
> my ability. (Sometimes I can, sometimes I can't)
>
> Special pricing available to regular customers and those who helped me
> get started!
>
PLEASE send a catalog to:
Michael Avila
4th Floor
5555 New King Street
Troy, Michigan 48098
THANKS
Mike
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From: JOSEPH THOMAS Number: 138
To: MIKE WARWICK Date: 08/08/93 8:29a
Subj: OS/2 Mitsumi Driver Refer: NONE
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MW> OS2 2.1.
MW> Only other thing you can do as far as I know is to call IBM tech support
MW> and have them FAX or overnight mail a workaround - (need 21 1.44 FDs
MW> to do it), and dump the OS to these from the cdrom and then do the
MW> install that way. You still don't have access to the cdrom though as far
MW> as I know.
One only needs to have 21 FDs in stock and rund LOADDISK.exe
from the CD and create these diskettes to install os2/2.1
Then install from those disks.
I have tried the Florida Driver for Mitsu, NO GO. Tnx.
Since Mitsumi people dont care about os/2, we should find a place where
we can dump these and get a read CD for os/2. Tnx.
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From: ERIC TREMBLAY Number: 139
To: LEWIS BULLARD Date: 08/07/93 11:54a
Subj: MAGNAVOX CDD 461 CD-R Refer: NONE
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> This cd-rom is not compatable with your system? It wouldn't
> happen to be
> a Packard Bell? My rom was not compatable with the PB xt!
I've got a 486dx-33. It's a clone.
TTYL
Eric
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 140
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/07/93 11:07p
Subj: Mac CD's Refer: NONE
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Mike I copied your CD Price list 1/2 and 2/2. Can you tell me which ones are
compatible with an Apple CD300?
The ones I am interested in are:
Groliers Encyclopedia
Britanica Family Choice
Officer's Bookcase
Desert Storm
Desktop Bookshop
Dinosaur adventure
Our Solar System
Profiles of Colleges
Reference Library
Jedi Collection Pack
Mayo Clinc
Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing
Timetable of Science
Total Baseball
US History
--------
I am also looking for:
Anatomist by Folkstone
American History by Computer Vistas
About Cows by Quanta Press
Ad-Builder Electronic by Multi-Ad Service
Comprehensive Review in Biology by Queue
ECODISC by Living and learning
learn to speak Spanish by Hyperglot
Macademic by Quantum Leap
North American Indians by Quanta Press
Tks for the help .....m2
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From: BILL GEE Number: 141
To: GREG SORCSEK Date: 08/07/93 5:44p
Subj: MSCDEX/Drivers Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GS>I recently acquired a Toshiba CD-ROM drive with a controller card and some,
b
GS>not much, documentation. I'm not sure if I need the DOS extensions (I
assume
GS>that I do) and apparently there are no drivers included. So...
GS>-
GS>What exactly does MSCDEX do and where can I get it?
GS>Are drivers available anywhere besides Toshiba?
MSCDEX.EXE is the module that fools DOS into thinking that the ISO 9660
format CD-ROM is really a DOS format disk. Normally it is provided with the
driver set for your interface card, but it is also available as part of DOS
6.0.
As for the drivers themselves, that depends on your interface card. If you
have one of the popular SCSI host adapters, CorelSCSI will probably work.
If the card is a proprietary, you are stuck with Toshiba or whomever.
GS>Does each CD use its own reader software?
Generally, yes. This is one of the things holding back mass-market
acceptance of CD technology. A few publishers have designed reader programs
that work for several of their products, but this is the exception.
Bill Gee
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From: BILL GEE Number: 142
To: VICTOR HEALEY Date: 08/08/93 7:33a
Subj: $50 CD drive Refer: NONE
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VH>drop to $50 range in a couple of years as volumn of shippments continue
VH>to increase and economies of scale are realized. I bet Mitsumi will be
VH>one of these in one form or another if this holds true. What do you
VH>think?
If these drives are selling as fast as you say at around $200, there is no
incentive for the price to go lower. I think that CD drives will go no
lower than about $150 at the low end. I predict that the really nice
double-speed and quad speed SCSI drives will drop to $300-400 eventually,
perhaps within a year.
Bill Gee
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From: MARK TIDWELL Number: 143
To: MARK WOMACK Date: 08/08/93 10:13a
Subj: Cd-rom Help! Refer: NONE
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-> For the life of me, I can't get the .SYS file to load in high memory.
-> I use QEMM but even went as far as to install 386MAX on my system.
-> Neither will let me load the file high - both lock up my system when
-> they boot. I've rebooted about 500 times over this and just gave up.
You may want to check the version (or date) of the MSCDEX.EXE file.
DOS 6.0 shipped a March 1993 version and that's what I've been using.
I use the regular DOS 6 EMM386.EXE and HIMEM.SYS and load all my CD-ROM
related drivers into high memory with no problems. Hope this helps!
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From: JOHN BLOOM Number: 144
To: TANYA BROCK Date: 08/08/93 8:30a
Subj: Re: Two mitsumi drives? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TB> -=> Quoting Peter Hebert to All <=-
TB>
TB> PH> Hello All!
TB>
TB> PH> Is it possible to run two Mitsumi CD-ROM drives in one computer?
TB> PH> seeing as how it runs off its own interface card, I just want to
TB> PH> if anyone has had any success having two in the same computer.
TB>Yup! I had a 600ms Mitsumi and one of the newer 350ms ones running in
TB>my server until we switched over to OS/2. Now they sit on the shelf
TB>gathering dust since I can't get them to work with OS/2. But they wer
TB>working fine in DOS. The 350 was cranky and would only work with the
TB>software transfer and I had the 600 set up with DMA. I don't know if
TB>it is because you can't have 2 running DMA or what. But I say go for
TB>it!
LT> I they are just sitting on the shelf, would you be interested in selli
LT> either one, or both of the drives, I have been looking for some. I y
LT> are interested, please mail me back with what you are asking for them.
LT> Individual prices please, I am not sure if I can afford both.
LT> WinQwk 2.0 a#0
Sorry to jump in like this.
Tanya there a drivers now for os/2on the ibm bbs.
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From: TYRONE THOMASON Number: 145
To: CHRIS CONKLIN Date: 08/08/93 11:48a
Subj: Free Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CC>C-3 Production Systems (Owmer: Chris Conklin)
CC>PO Box 60144
CC>San Angelo, Tx
CC> 76904
CC>915-944-7187
Chris, Please send a copy of your catalog to: Tyrone Thomason
111 Whitehead Circle
Warner Robins, GA
31098-1040
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From: CRAIG DOBIE Number: 146
To: ALL Date: 08/08/93 11:41a
Subj: BBS Shareware CD Refer: NONE
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I know there are some sharewhere CD's formated for BBS's (FILES.BBS) I was
wondering if anyone has one or knows where I can get ahold of one.
Craig Dobie
Sysop: Monty's Place BBS
Fort Worth, Texas
... Monty's Place, A self perpetuating telecommunical autocracy
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From: CRAIG DOBIE Number: 147
To: EDDIE THOMSON Date: 08/08/93 12:32p
Subj: Re: Telegard with CD-ROM Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Eddie Thomson to Dave Summers <=-
ET> *MSGID: 1:233/24 2c5ce062
ET> *REPLY: 1:233/25 2c5bdbd9
ET> Dave Summers:
ET> Sunday August 01 1993 11:05, Dave Summers wrote to All:
DS> was wondering if anyone out there has set up a CD-ROM with Telegard
DS> before. What I'm really trying to find out is this...do I have to
DS> physically create each and every directory then upload the files onto
DS> the
DS> board and plug in all those file descriptions or are there .DIR files
DS> included?
ET> Hmm...well, it depends on the CD. I've never seen or heard of a
ET> CD that had Telegard's DIR files, however in Telegard Utilities (you
ET> should have a copy...if not there's one over here), there's a program
ET> called BBS2DIR I think. It's a program that converts FILES.BBS (which
ET> comes with most CDs) to a .DIR file for Telegard. But you will
ET> probably have to manually add the areas for the CD.
The program is in the Telegard Utilities and it's call FILES2TG.EXE (you were
close <<Grin>>) But like Eddie said you probally have to put the directories
manually.
-- Craig Dobie
Sysop: Monty's Place BBS
... Monty's Place, A self perpetuating telecommunical autocracy
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 148
To: CHRIS HARRIS Date: 08/07/93 12:45a
Subj: Cd'S On Sale! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CH>MS> STARVECTOR CD-ROM BLOWOUT SPECIALS!
CH>MS>Bibles & Religion...$10 Colossal Cookbook...$10 Our Solar System..
CH>MS>Shareware Overload..$10 Windows 93..........$21 SoundWAV..........
CH>MS>Deathstar Arcade....$10 Powerpak Gold 3.0...$15 House of Games....
CH>MS>Ham Radio 3.0.......$10 Sound Sensations....$10 Windoware.........
CH>MS>Complete Bookshop...$10 Technotools.........$10 Too Many Typefonts
CH>MS>Compton's Interact..$95 Clipart Goliath.....$10 Dictionaries/Lang.
CH>MS>
CH>Mike,Do you carry Grolier's MPC Encyclopedia Version 1.5 or higher?
Yes Chris, we have it in stock at $48.00
CH> Do you carry EMS Professionals Visual Basic CD-ROM for Professionals?
CH>If so, how much are they, and can you describe the EMS Professionals CD
Haven't carried those yet.
Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 149
To: ALL Date: 08/07/93 12:45a
Subj: FREQ OUR CD CATALOG! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
***************************************************************************
FREQ OR DOWNLOAD STARVECTOR'S CURRENT CATALOG W/ 300+ CD-ROM TITLES!
***************************************************************************
To all CD users who would like to receive Starvector's catalog of the 300+
CD-ROM titles that we stock, you may either download our catalog file from
our BBS, or Freq (file request) it.
BBS: 509-457-0206 - Download STARCAT.ZIP from <F>ile menu. (1st call)
FREQ: 1:3407/101 - File request STARCAT.ZIP
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 150
To: FEDERICO MUNOZ PENA Date: 08/07/93 10:17a
Subj: Conectar CR-ROM MITSUMI A Refer: NONE
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FMP=>El Zorro -Z-
FMP=> * Origin: MegaLink BBS, Chihuahua, Mexico! +52-(14)-10-36-29
Que tal Zorro, como te va?
Conectastes el Sound Blaster al CD-ROM? Te conteste tu nota, pero ya no
recibi palabra de ti.
Hasta lluego y que la pases bien!
Adrian Salas
* QMPro 1.50 41-2384 * Pon en tu radio la PODEROSA!
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From: NITIN N. GUPTA Number: 151
To: ALL Date: 08/08/93 12:40a
Subj: Problem With Sbpro Ugrade Kit Refer: NONE
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I just got a new 486 and have installed my old sbpro and creative labs cd rom
drive from my old 386. I am now having all types of problem with digital sound
in programs like 7th Guest, X-Wing, and Where in The World Is Carmen
Sandiego(disk version. The drivers for windows aren't working right either. I
have the latest ones.
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From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 152
To: ALL Date: 08/10/93 12:26a
Subj: $99 cd rom drives Refer: NONE
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Special.... for 1 week I'm offering used Hitachi 3500 internal cd rom drives
for $99. I have about 20 left. 30 day warranty included. 205-824-2552
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From: LAWRENCE MINTZ Number: 153
To: MIKE WARWICK Date: 08/08/93 9:52a
Subj: OS/2 Mitsumi Driver Refer: NONE
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> Only other thing you can do as far as I know is to
> call IBM tech support
> and have them FAX or overnight mail a workaround -
> (need 21 1.44 FDs
> to do it), and dump the OS to these from the cdrom and
> then do the
> install that way. You still don't have access to the
> cdrom though as far
> as I know.
If you can read the CD-ROM under DOS, you can make your own copies of the 21
5.25 or 3.5 floppy disks that are required for building OS/2 2.1. The disk
images are stored on the CD-ROM in the directory DISKIMGS\OS2\525 or
DISKIMGS\OS2\35. The program to transfer these compressed images to floppy
exists in the directory DISKIMGS. I presume the work around instructs the user
to modify the CONFIG.SYS and/or AUTOEXEC.BAT files to transfer the system from
the A: drive rather than the CD-ROM drive. Of course, once you have built your
OS/2 system, you will not be able to access the CD-ROM until you get the driver
for your Mitsumi.
Larry
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From: RICHARD KONG Number: 154
To: CHRIS CONKLIN Date: 08/08/93 12:20a
Subj: Re: Free Catalog Refer: NONE
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> C-3 Production Systems is now online. If you would like
> to
> receive a catalog of CD-ROM disks at discount prices, leave
> message here, give me a call or write to the address below.
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From: RICHARD KONG Number: 155
To: CHRIS CONKLIN Date: 08/08/93 12:21a
Subj: Re: Free Catalog Refer: NONE
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> C-3 Production Systems is now online. If you would like
> to
> receive a catalog of CD-ROM disks at discount prices, leave
> message here, give me a call or write to the address below.
I would like a copy of your catalog. Please mail it to:
Richard Kong
5530 Fifth Ave., Apt. 8A
Pittsburgh, PA 15232
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From: LAWRENCE MINTZ Number: 156
To: CARLOS BENITZ Date: 08/08/93 5:27p
Subj: ERROR LOADING OS/2 2 Refer: NONE
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> LR> No, that's not necessary. The CD-ROM version comes with two boot
> LR>diskettes. In addition, there are disk images for all the
> But does OS/2 automatically know that it can boot from
> drive F:
> (or whatever your cdrom drive is)? Or does OS/2
> determine that
> the cdrom drive is your first drive? I realise that
> under DOS
> MSCDEX is responsible for recognizing the cdrom, and
> that it is
> the last drive after all others, but I'm not sure that
> I
> understand how you could boot from a cdrom under any
> operating
> system unless that system defines the cdrom to be the
> first
> harddrive. If it does consider it the first
> harddrive, does it
> choke if it finds a non-bootable cdrom at (later) boot
> time?
The CONFIG.SYS file on the second floppy disk defines the CD-ROM as a device
and informs the OS/2 loader to install OS/2 from the CD-ROM device. You can
never boot from the CD-ROM, at any time. The CD-ROM is merely a device that
the software can be copied from once a version of OS/2 has been booted either
by floppy or hard drive. Once the system has been installed on
your first hard drive, OS/2 will always boot from that drive unless a boot disk
is placed in the A: drive, just as is the case with DOS.
Larry
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From: LAWRENCE MINTZ Number: 157
To: GREG HASKINS Date: 08/08/93 5:33p
Subj: DOS 6.0 Refer: NONE
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> Dos 6 What so good about it ????? It should have been
> called dos 5.1 the oporating system is exacly the
> same. Futhermore Bunck of utils with it.
> And about saving your dos 5 when installing it WHAT'S
> up with that if it's so GOOD. It's A BLunder Ill keep
> 5.0 until they come up with a real improvement.
> Oh ya they added a move utility oh boy!!
Ok, then try adding DBLSPACE to your DOS 5. Secondly, after DOS boots, hit the
F5 key and see if DOS 5 will cancel the CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT. Finally,
reboot and try hitting F8 to single step through the CONFIG.SYS file with DOS
5. For those of us with complex configurations and constant tweaking of those
configurations, the new features in DOS 6 are a god-send. However, I will
admit that I personally do not use DBLSPACE on my system, simply because I find
compression to be a problem on directories filled with .ZIP, .LZH, and .ARJ
files.
Larry
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From: MICHAEL MCKINLEY Number: 158
To: JOHN MORRISON Date: 08/07/93 8:55p
Subj: Battlechess-enhanced mode Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CSV has it and can fed -x it to you for 64.00. No tax of course. If interested
drop a note or voice at 912-245-8793.
MM
Computer Solutions
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From: MICHAEL MCKINLEY Number: 159
To: ALLEN DIETZ Date: 08/07/93 8:56p
Subj: PDR Refer: NONE
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Did you find your PDR?? I have several for under the price quoted..
Drop a note or voice- 912-245-8793.
MM
CSV
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From: MICHAEL MCKINLEY Number: 160
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 08/07/93 8:59p
Subj: CD-ROM Games Refer: NONE
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Have you found any good games?? I have several good suggestions if you
haven't. You should try the new interactive cd games- that is if you can
afford them. Interested drop me a note.
MM
CSV
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From: MICHAEL MCKINLEY Number: 161
To: RICHARD POUNCY Date: 08/07/93 9:00p
Subj: SONY 535 CD-ROM Refer: NONE
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If you will call sony of future's bbs. They have several for IBM OS 2.0 and
2.1.
MM
CSV
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From: MICHAEL MCKINLEY Number: 162
To: WILLIAM MORSE Date: 08/07/93 9:01p
Subj: looking for cdrom disks Refer: NONE
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CSV has several drop us a note or voice at 912-245-8793. They us what you are
looking for.
MM
CSV
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From: FRANK RUSKO Number: 163
To: DIANE PENCIL Date: 08/07/93 8:46a
Subj: Corel Artshow Refer: NONE
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JORGE GUTIERREZ duly noted in a message to DIANE PENCIL on 08-01-1993
and mentioned
JG> I got the disk from one of the guys here. Try leaving a message to ALL to
JG> see if someone else have another one.
JG> I will try to find out if someone here in Miami has one for sale.
JG> Do you use Corel Draw to make linos?
JG> I have a proble making a print to file and sending it to a Linotronic place
JG> for negative film. They say that the file runs all the way through but
JG> nothing comes out. Do you have any idea what I have to do?
JG> Thanks and let me know how to contact you.
JG>
Hello Diane..
Pardon me for jumping in here..but I got the same disk from Scott
Bailey.. HIs netmail address is 1:390/14.
Work number is 504-732-7111....The disk is very well
done....Good luck...Frank
Entered from Shawnigan Lake B.C. CANADA
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From: MICHAEL GRAY Number: 164
To: DON HANCOCK Date: 08/08/93 11:06p
Subj: Re: Advice Refer: NONE
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I am not too sure about CD's with only C/C++ material from Microsoft. I was
told about them from a friend of mine in the navy. He is on ship right now. But
when he gets back I will be looking into this. I have also seen some general
programming CD's with diffrent languages on them with C/C++ code. If the C/C++
specific CD's turn out to be usefull , I will e-mail you and tell you how to
get them. Michael.
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From: MARIO DI MAMBRO Number: 165
To: SHAWN RUTLEDGE Date: 08/06/93 9:08p
Subj: Re: Cd Writing Service Refer: NONE
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I think that sounds like great idea too but I'm no programmer if that's
the kind of people your trying to find. I bought my cd-rom for multi-media
stuff (like interactive video and books with animation and sound) like your
talking about, but I don't see much of it. Maybe you should write a formal
letter to a big company like Microsoft or a game company with your
proposition. Then maybe we'll see them springing up everywhere.
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From: MARIO DI MAMBRO Number: 166
To: JURRIE HOBERS Date: 08/06/93 9:30p
Subj: Re: Mod Cd-Roms Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Jurrie Hobers to Jim Maricondo <=-
-=> Quoting Jim Maricondo to Jurrie Hobers <=-
JM> *Re: Re: MOD CD-ROMs
> Here in The Netherlands, Europe, we have a cd called: The Ultimate Mod
> collection with a large number of MOD files. I do not know if this cd is
> also at your place.
JM> Do they export it? (i.e. would I ever have a chance at finding it
JM> here? :) Or is it a US import in the first place?
JH> I van get it for you Jim!
JH>
JH> So let me know if you are still interested.....
JH>
JH> GreetinX!
JH>
JH> Jurrie!
JH>
JH>
JH>
JH> ... DOS, this is CHECKDSK /F, Two Cross linked clusters at 9 o'clock!!
JH> -!- FMail 0.94
JH> ! Origin: Orion BBS - Emmen 05910-34151 - 24 uur per dag (2:512/183.0)
I might be interested in getting one of those too. I love mods and I have
a very good player for my Gravis Ultrasound card. Send me some E-mail or
something.
... The OFFICIAL tagline of the 1996 Olympics!
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From: MARIO DI MAMBRO Number: 167
To: JURRIE HOBERS Date: 08/06/93 9:38p
Subj: Re: 240 Disk Changer Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Jurrie Hobers to Don Kulha <=-
-=> Quoting Don Kulha to David Priest <=-
DP> I just got details through from a company for a 240
DP> disk changer (240 x 600mb!) and it uses 4 or 7 high
DP> speed, Toshiba 3401 SCSI drives.
DK> Please share the contact info please.....DCK
JH>
JH> Hello Don!
JH>
JH> I happen to have the documentation of those kind of things!
JH> The docs I own shwo the following drives:
JH>
JH> 4 cd-rom tower drive
JH> 8 cd-rom tower drive
JH> 12 cd-rom tower drive
JH> 16 cd-rom tower drive
JH> 200 cd jukedriveTM
JH>
JH> And I think that this is what you mean....
JH>
JH> The cabinet is equipped with a switchable power supply (110 volt
JH> 60hz/ 220 volt 60 hz) The drives are daisychained for installation in
JH> a pc- network.
JH>
JH> The jukedriveTM is compatible with IBM pc or MAC computers. Each
JH> cd-rom drive has automatic lens cleaning and a double door to prevent
JH> dust. And all the data is at your fingertips--on-line, full-time!!
JH>
JH> Further specs:
JH>
JH> Capacity: 682.0 Mb (mode 1)
JH> 777.9 Mb (mode 2)
JH> Transfer: 153.6 Kb/s (sequential)
JH> Access (average)
JH> 1/3 stroke: 300 ms
JH> full str. : 390 ms
JH> Buffer : 64kb
JH> MTBF: 50,000 h
JH>
JH> When you want more info, contact me.....
JH> I have the latest info of a drive which can handle 1,000 cd's!!!!!!!!
I don't want to sound arrogant, but the hell could use 1000 cd's. Who
could afford to buy them all, let alone use them. Only some kind of
library resource system with every magazine ever published on it would
need something like that. Certainly a BBS or private user wouldn't
need that kind of massive space. (not to mention what it must cost!)
JH>
JH> GreetinX!
JH>
JH> Jurrie!
JH>
JH>
JH> ... DOS, this is CHECKDSK /F, Two Cross linked clusters at 9 o'clock!!
JH> -!- FMail 0.94
JH> ! Origin: Orion BBS - Emmen 05910-34151 - 24 uur per dag (2:512/183.0)
... The OFFICIAL tagline of the 1996 Olympics!
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From: CHRIS ROBINSON Number: 168
To: ALL Date: 08/08/93 4:07p
Subj: 16 bit cards Refer: NONE
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I am preparing to buy a 16 bit sound card soon. What do all you users
recommend ??? I am cuurently trying to decide what the good and bad
points are for the PAS16 and the SB16 ASP. Any suggestions?? I plan on
adding a double speed drive in the near future. How do these sound cards
hook up to the cd-rom drive and does one card have better features to
accomodate the cd-rom drive over the other? Please help if you can.
THANKS !!! CR
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 169
To: CRAIG BAKER Date: 08/08/93 3:48p
Subj: Re: A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS... Refer: NONE
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> Assuming a transfer rate of 1700 CPS on a
CB> pre-compressed file, that works > out to be about 15
CB> minutes, not "1-2 minutes".
CB>
CB> Of course you are correct. My intention was to show that
CB> with an inexpensive 14.4 modem it no longer takes "hours"
CB> to download files from a BBS system. Maybe I should have
CB> said "average" (couple hundred K) instead of "largest".
Certainly.
Les
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 170
To: POE LIM Date: 08/08/93 3:50p
Subj: Re: New Mpc Specs Refer: NONE
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PL> On Aug 01 15:18 in a msg to Sunny Leung, Leslie Rhorer of
PL> 1:387/800.4 wrote:
> Not at all. All the new CD-ROM drives are "double speed",
> and some are quad speed (600Kbps),
PL> Are there any others besides the Pioneer 604X?
I'm sure there must be, but I don't know of any off hand. The 604X is
a great drive, however.
> and the new sound cards are all 16 bit.
PL> Well, I suppose that justifies the upgrade to the SB 16
PL> ASP, as all other specs are exceeded. :)
Or one of the other 16 bit boards. I couldn't get the Logitech 16 bit
sound board to work with OS//2, but the Pro Audio Spectrum 16 works just fine.
Les
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 171
To: ALL Date: 08/08/93 4:01p
Subj: Thanks Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thanks to everyone who responded to my query about MSCDEX emulation on
a LAN workstation. I finally settled for a one-user CD-LAN product available
on the Artisoft BBS, called CD-SHARE. Rather than being a kludge that works to
fool the application that MSCDEX is loaded, linking to the LAN redirector
instead, this is actually a full blown CD sharing network system that runs
independently of the LAN.
Les
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From: GIANG NGUYEN Number: 172
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/08/93 1:36p
Subj: Re: W.O.R.M. DRIVES Refer: NONE
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This is VERY interesting. $369 for aWORM drive? Were you misstype?.....is this
machine new or used?.....How many do you have left?
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From: MARK THORNTON Number: 173
To: ALL Date: 08/08/93 12:35p
Subj: Catalog Refer: NONE
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If anyone has any CD catalog's would you please post a message where i can
pick one up thanks......
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From: YVES DESJARDINS Number: 174
To: RON WATKINS Date: 08/08/93 9:40a
Subj: CD SPEEDWAY Refer: NONE
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Hello Ron!
09 Jul 93 00:00, Ron Watkins wrote to Pat Nefos:
RW> Ram is measured in NANO-seconds; disks are measured in
RW> MILLI-seconds. Nano-seconds are, I believe, millionths; milli-seconds
RW> are thousanths.
RW> 70ns ram is .07 ms.... effectively zero, for all intents and
RW> purposes.
RW> <<RON>>
You're right about RAM is measured in nanosecond. Nano = 10^-9 which makes
them billionth. Much faster, but not quite zero yet. :)
Yves
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From: YVES DESJARDINS Number: 175
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/08/93 2:46p
Subj: CATALOG VIA EMAIL? Refer: NONE
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Hello Boris!
12 Jul 93 01:45, Boris Osadciw wrote to Tom Menasco:
BO> Give us your fido address and we'll shoot over a copy.
BO> + Origin: Buggie Works - The CD-ROM Outlet (216)225-3263 (1:157/46)
Boris, I would be interested in getting one of your catalog. Can you netmail
it to 1:140/23.3
Much appreciated....
Yves
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From: ARNIE GROSS Number: 176
To: ALL Date: 08/08/93 12:05p
Subj: CD-ROMS (1 each) for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
.
CD-ROMS for sale - $18.00 each (incl. shipping)
HyperText Electronic Library, release 6 - Incl. PC Interrupts and Operating
Platform Functions, C Language Library Reference, ADA
Language Reference Manual, Secret Guide to Computers,
Complete DOS Reference Manual, ARJ Reference, From
Ventura To Hypertext, Microsoft RTFS (Rich Text Format
Specification), CALS 28001 (Standard Generalized Markup
Language), Astronomy, Bible (King James), Professional
Mail Management, Navigation, more
FontMaster CD Library - High quality fonts (NOT shareware), complete with
utilities. Includes Avant Garde, Baskerville,
Benguiat, Bodoni, Broadway, Calligraphy, Chancellor,
Charter, Cooper Bold, Friz Quadrata, Garamond, Goudy,
Greek, Korinna, Letter Gothic, Olde English, Optima,
Palatino, Park Avenue, Regency, Schoolbook, Script,
Signature, Souvenir, more (100+ dirs, 5000+ files)
Magazine Article Summaries, Jan '84 - May '92 (w/search software) includes
32 MAGAZINES IN FULL TEXT (Compute!, Natural History,
Newsweek, Omni, Rolling Stone, Smithsonian, Technology
Review, US News, 16 more), plus 300 in summary format
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From: ARNIE GROSS Number: 177
To: ALL Date: 08/08/93 12:06p
Subj: More CD's (1 each) Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
.
CD-ROMS for sale - $12.00 each (incl. shipping)
Marketing Master Custom search and sort, print labels, mail and call.
Includes Fortune 1500, Government, Colleges and
Universities, Manufacturers, Libraries, Hospitals and
Public Utilities.
Dataware Demo Disc Two excellent retrieval engines (one is hypertext),
with more than a dozen usable data bases.
Hypertext Information Base Library for AIX version 3.2 (for InfoExplorer)
Directories include ADA, AIX, CXX, FORTRAN, GRAPH,
HARDWARE, NAV, PASCAL, PROG and UIPROG)
Tax Preparation and Business Programs - (Shareware Compilation) Directories
include BUSINESS, CHURCH, DAYO, HOME, MISC, PLANNER,
STOCK, and TAX
LaserTax Tax Preparation tool and Tax Form Library. Requires
Windows 3.1 and 4 mb RAM. Sound card recommended but
not required. National support via BBS.
Federal Register Approx 500 megabytes of data including the entire
text of Vol 56, No. 100 (05-23-91) through Vol 56,
No. 226 (11-22-91).
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From: ARNIE GROSS Number: 178
To: DANNY TONG Date: 08/08/93 1:34p
Subj: Re: Cd-rom rentals? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Danny -
05 Aug 93, Danny Tong writes to All:
> The programs can be used up to 3 times before they are rendered
> inoperative. Users can then purchase an electronic key via an
> 800 number to fully unlock the software and its documentation.
How can this be possible, unless we are talking about re-writeable CD's?
If the program is installed to the hard drive, it should be possible to
reinstall it again, to get another three uses. Of course, it's a royal
pain in the butt to do this every third time you want to run a program!
If these are truely fully functional programs (ie: NOT "demo" versions),
then the original publishers would be losing sales.
Something doesn't sound right. Was this message you found perhaps an
idea for a future disc?
- Arnie :+}
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From: ANDREW FREEMAN Number: 179
To: WEE YUNG Date: 08/08/93 12:00a
Subj: Cd Rom Sale: Xm-3401 Refer: NONE
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WY> CD-ROM Toshiba MX3401b SCSI drive,Kodak comp.200ms, 256k cache $469.
Does this include a SCSI controller? If not, how much is a decent
SCSI card from you?
thanks, Andrew.
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From: ALAN MCCREADY Number: 180
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/08/93 4:47p
Subj: PAS16/TEXEL 3024 Refer: NONE
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Boris, What is the upgrade kit? I bought a SCSI cable and the drivers Trantor
and MSCDEX are included with the PAS16 board. Do I still need something else?
If I need this upgrade kit how much is it?
thanks Alan
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From: ROY COCHRUN Number: 181
To: MARK WOMACK Date: 08/08/93 9:20a
Subj: Re: CD-rom help! Refer: NONE
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You> I can't get the .SYS file to load in high memory.
...
There is a new version of the Mitsumi driver out. Using QEMM, it will
load fine. Also, use the /X switch. You can find the driver on the
QEMM BBS, 1-310-314-3227, free to registered users. I think the driver
also is on the Creative Labs BBS, 1-408-428-6664. Now, if someone
could please figure out my problem, obviously with memory...
My new 486/33 board gives me a conflict, whereby if I load up
everything, my SB-Pro stops working, as do my A: and B: drives. If I
don't load MSCDEX.EXE, I get my SB-Pro and floppies. Now comes the fun
part: If I do a DIR on my CD-ROM drive (Drive O: in my case), two
times! I can then access the SB-Pro and floppies. I also can access my
CD-ROM. Now, if I switch to the CD-ROM and try to play a .VOC file on
it (for example), the machine locks up. It is obviously a memory
problem (I've tried all the different settings on the Mitsumi, but the
same problem occurs, regardless). I haven't a clue what is causing the
problem. I've even tried using the software .SYS driver, and it
doesn't work either. My new motherboard is using the new Cyrix chip.
Advice appreciated, from anyone. -- regards, Roy Cochrun
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From: SHAWN RUTLEDGE Number: 182
To: GLENN SANDERSE Date: 08/08/93 6:21p
Subj: Cd writing service Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GS>If you want a standardized method of putting non-formatted text onto
GS>check out Dataware software for the Philips CD recorder and soon for
GS>Ricoh CD recorder. A soon to be released version of their software, u
GS>CD-I (by Philips) players will have a standardized text formatting
GS>structure that will you allow to view text with a machine you connect
GS>TV.
And how would I get in contact with this company (makers of Dataware)?
GS>the Ricoh, the data stream does not have to be continuous. The JVC
Sounds like that's the one to have. I always thought that continuous
data stream requirement was kind of impractical.
GS>Converting information from paper format, etc. as you envisioned is
GS>impractical due to copyright problems and the expense of actually doi
GS>the conversion.
In general you're probably right; but for a private collection, it's
just a lot of time involved. I wouldn't want to undertake too big a
stack of magazines without some kind of robot to flip the pages and some
automated software that can detect pictures, separate them out, OCR the
text, run the spell checker, etc. automatically.
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From: DAVID M. WHITE Number: 183
To: LOUIS SOKOL Date: 08/08/93 11:35a
Subj: PDR Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thanks for offer on PDR on CD, however, I have discovered that the price for
the CD is so high that I could buy the book version for the next several years
and still come out ahead. <G> Thanks anyway.
D
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From: LOYD CRAFT Number: 184
To: ALL Date: 08/08/93 12:40a
Subj: Custom cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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From: DAVID BERNARD Number: 185
To: BRUCE BOWMAN Date: 08/08/93 10:09p
Subj: CD-ROMs and DESQviewi Refer: NONE
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|BB>I also have this problem -- I have yet to find a CD music |
|player that is DV-aware. I have one called PLAY.EXE and |
|another called PLAYBACK.COM. Either one will cause an |
|exception error if run in DesqView. |
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I replied to Dave Summers about it, and besides what I told him I set a large
DOS window up to run in background with Protection level 1 set, and just to
help out the Tame ver 2.61 program too. The CD-Music plays well with shuttle
play and memory and all in background since I got the card switched to IRQ 5
from IRQ 3. Before that I was upset about not being able to run the CDs in DV
but since than its been running well. I had added the protection level 1 and
Tame when I was having trouble and at least had it from crashing the whole
thing when the wrong IRQ was set, and I have not changed it since. I have
been impressed with the sound from the CD-ROM and sent for some Koss amplified
speakers with base port and two drivers that Lyben has on sale. The smaller
Tandy amplified speakers from my sound card are OK but the sound quality on
the headphones really indicates better speakers are needed to enjoy it fully.
I load the MTMCDD.SYS in my Config.SYS:
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\MTMCDD.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:300 /M:16 /I:5 /T:S
Again I don't load MSCDEX.EXE in the Autoexec in DOS because it won't load
high and run, and it takes too much lower DOS. I run MSCDEX.EXE from the DV
window that I will use it in.
The files DAK program put on hard disk C:\CDPLAYER to run it are:
PLAYBACK COM 3/26/92 2:10p
CDMUSIC DB 3/31/92 10:54a
PLAY EXE 3/30/92 2:01p
CDMUSIC IDX 8/07/93 10:07p
The Bat file I load it with from C:\ to run it is CDMENU.BAT and is:
@echo off
c:
cd \
cdr
if errorlevel 2 goto end
cdrx.bat
:end
The CDR is in front end selection program in C:\
CDR EXE 5/14/91 2:23p
The CDR.DAT 8/07/93 10:07p File is:
name 00 CD Program Launcher
# Last changed on Sun Jul 25, 1993 at 19:59
menu
item 214 159 15 0 CD Music Launcher
c:\cdplayer
play.exe
The CDRX.BAT just says:
echo If you want to re-run the menu system, type CDMENU and press Enter.
Good Luck! Ltr...David
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From: DAVID HARRISON Number: 186
To: ALL Date: 08/08/93 11:59a
Subj: mitsumi Refer: NONE
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I run WanderLand BBS, and I am looking to add a CD-ROM to my file section on
my bbs... One of my users offered to sell me a MITSUMI (350ms) CD-ROM
drive... Does anybody know if these things are worth having?
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From: ANDREW BARFOOT Number: 187
To: NORM ROWE Date: 07/22/93 11:06p
Subj: Bible Cd Refer: NONE
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Reading messages between Bob Hall and Norm Rowe it appears you two guys no
something about bibles. I need a bible that has a full (Roman) catholic version
included. Can either of you - or any one else - tell me where I might get such
a CD. I prefer DOS but MAC will do...
Thabks in anticipation
Andrew L. BARFOOT
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From: ANDREW BARFOOT Number: 188
To: KAMIL GURGEN Date: 07/22/93 11:17p
Subj: Geneology Refer: NONE
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In a message to All <16 Jul 93 15:35> Kamil Gurgen wrote:
KG> Can anyone assist with info on acquiring a CD which specialises
KG> in Geneology. I have been unable to find any in OZ except for the
KG> General Shareware Discs...
If you only want the programs to do the gene stuff, perhaps you should try one
of the Genealogist clubs around the country (Australia). There are two disks of
data available. The Victorian Pioneers index (cica 1835-85) and the New South
Wales index - dates unknown.
If you need to know more netmail me or call on (03) 758-4822.
Hope this helps...
Andrew L. BARFOOT
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From: ANDREW BARFOOT Number: 189
To: PAUL ROLFE Date: 07/11/93 9:15p
Subj: MPC Atlas Refer: NONE
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In a message to All <07 Jul 93 14:43> Paul Rolfe wrote:
PR> Looking for a good MPC based Atlas, anyone got any suggestions,
PR> descriptions, and prices (either US$ or AU$)
I can supply you a brand new, un-opened copy of the current version of The
Software Toolworks "World Atlas" for $65.00 Australian, posted to your door.
This is a Windows Multimedia version of the of the software.
If this is suitable for your needs and if the price is right, then you can
netmail, fax or call me to arrange delivery.
fax (03) 752-2377
phone (03) 758-4822
Andrew L. BARFOOT.
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From: ANDREW BARFOOT Number: 190
To: STEVE THOMAS Date: 07/17/93 1:30p
Subj: 7'th Guest Won't Run! ! ! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message to All <11 Jul 93 17:37> Steve Thomas wrote:
ST> I just bought the 7'th Guest and it lloks pretty good. It would
ST> be better if I could get it to run. I start it up and it goes
ST> through the opening credits, it then goes into the book with the
ST> pictures on each page. It animates the picture and talks and then
ST> turns the page. Well my problem is that it hangs the system at
ST> different places in this opening scene.
I had the same problem and I changed from SVGA to MCGA graphics and the problem
stopped straight away. Never hung again...
btw I run a 386DX40 with 8meg
hope this helps
Andrew
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From: ANDREW BARFOOT Number: 191
To: PAUL ROLFE Date: 07/29/93 5:17p
Subj: MPC Atlas Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message to Paul Rolfe <17 Jul 93 15:57> Allen Dietz wrote:
>PR>Looking for a good MPC based Atlas, anyone got any suggestions,
descriptions
>PR>and prices (either US$ or AU$)
AD> For a world atlas, Global Explorer from DeLorme Mapping is the best.
AD> It's a seamless color map of the world with multi-level zoom,
AD> geographic and political features, and topographic information. In
AD> my opinion, Global Explorer is FAR superior to any other CD-ROM
AD> based world atlas currently on the market. It's available from:
SPECDATA, P.O. BOX 1050, MOUNTAIN GATE, VICRORIA, 3156
TELEPHONE, (03) 758-4822, FAX (03) 752-2377
Price cica $175.00 Australian.
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From: ANDREW BARFOOT Number: 192
To: MIKE LAGAMBA Date: 07/31/93 10:37a
Subj: x-rated cd-rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message to Carlos Benitz <21 Jul 93 03:14> Mike Lagamba wrote:
>-> In defense of JR: It may shock you, but if animals didn't have
>-> sex, there wouldn't be any. They aren't made in factories you
>-> know. Perhaps the conclusions you've jumped to about his post
>-> indicate a need of your own.
Not that I want to "expose" my preferences, but I thought you guys came from
the land of free speech etc. (1st amendment isn't it?) Now you talk of turning
of the echo so your members won't be exposed. Some of them may like it. Sounds
like you you are imposing censorship on your members if you do that (did you
run a ballot and ask what they wanted or is this proposed action arbitary.
Perhaps you should turn a Unix or an OS/2 type echo off because you don't want
your members exposed to a system you don't like...
Also, may I ask our moderator. Who made up the rule that no more messages about
sex or r/x-rated cd's shall "profane" this echo? Was it a matter that was
discussed in detail at sysop meetings, or perhaps a flood of netmail (that
no-one else was privy to), brought you to this decision?
Has anybody asked those who have not complained what they think. If there is
perhaps 1,000,000 readers of this echo, do you make rules to suit 100 or
perhaps 1,000 who complain? I have not seen one complaint reach the BBS I get
these messages from.
Don't forget, in enlightened countries such as those this echo reaches, the
readers can always stop reading, not buy the naughty cd's, not go to XXX rated
movies etc., etc., etc. Perhaps you should let the users decide...
Who was it that said...
"I DISAGREE OF WHAT YOU SAY, BUT WILL DEFEND TO THE DEATH YOUR RIGHT TO SAY IT"
Andrew L. BARFOOT
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 193
To: CARLOS BENITZ Date: 08/08/93 7:43p
Subj: New Mpc Specs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Carlos!
On 08-05-93 Carlos Benitz wrote to Rowan Evans...
CB> SL>> It would be a rare person to have a computer with these specs!
CB> RE> Why?? As soon as I upgarde this PC, I'll have two!
CB> Just because you have something does not make it unrare.
Check the English on the first quote.... "It would be a rare PERSON..."
So, I MUST be a rare person!
Anyway, the number of people that I discuss things with via FidoNET, etc
has given a reasonable enough sample for me to say that at least 30% of
the current PC users have a machine that with minor alterations would
meet this spec... Namely the installation of a fast CD-ROM or a 1Meg
SVGA card... This spec and the possible new games/applications written
for MPC L2 will put a lot of pressure on users to "go the extra"....
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: TIM WENAS Number: 194
To: ALL Date: 08/05/93 6:36p
Subj: Recomend? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hewwoo.
Can anyone recommend the current models of multimedia packs?
I'ld like a nice fast CD-rom drive, and maybe a 16-bit sound card to
boot. Preferably all in a nice package, like the Creative Labs SB16 pack
or Fusion 16. Prices would be nice, but not essential. Just looking for
recommendations 4 now.
L8r -TiM-
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From: QUENTEN GRASSO Number: 195
To: ALL Date: 08/06/93 2:09p
Subj: mod cd roms Refer: NONE
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Hi does any one know of any cd's With Mods on them?
......
.......THE FILE SERVER!!
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From: QUENTEN GRASSO Number: 196
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/06/93 2:13p
Subj: CD ROM CATALOG Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi can i have a catalog of you CD-ROM disk please if so send it to
20 landers av
rangewood
townsville qld
4817
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From: DON PUGH Number: 197
To: JOE HAYES Date: 07/31/93 10:30a
Subj: CDROM Slows BBS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Joe,
PD>> I run a two line RA BBS and have a Pioneer
PD>> DRM-600 CD-ROM Drive. The problem that I am
PD>> having is when one node of the bbs is copying
PD>> files to hardrive for Download the other line
PD>> seems to freeze for a few seconds. WhatI want to
PD>> know is this normal or can I do something to
PD>> lesson thisor eliminate it?
PD>> Has anyone solved this problem?
PD>>
PD>> Paul
JH> I don't run the Pioneer DRM-600 drive here, but I
JH> do have your problem. I run 3 lines with Lantasti
JH> net. The problem seems to me to be when a request
JH> is made from a workstation it must be met before
JH> going on to another node's request.
JH> That may or may not be the problem, since I don't
JH> <g>know a lot about networking ..
JH> I don't know any way around it, I have tried
JH> everything I can think of. Wait until a cdrom
JH> can't find a file GEEEEZ! the whole darn board
JH> (all nodes) will set and wait for ever!
I run 3 lines with 2 pioneer drm-600's. Novell gives the extra speed to avoid
this problem. With scsi express the cds are not accessed except when copying
and copying to hd
slows the system for 4-7 sec but doesn't interfere much.
Best Regards Don
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From: STUART CAPORN Number: 198
To: DAVID ELEF Date: 08/02/93 8:26p
Subj: Re: Problem!!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting David Elef to All <=-
DE> Hi,
DE> went to change the recording option from 8-bit to 16-bit sound (In the
DE> Kit came a Sound Blaster Pro 2 stereo card). I tried changing the
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I have one of these with the CD-ROM, but I didn't think it was a 16-bit
card.
I thought it used a 16-bit data bus to/from the computer, but could
only record music in 8-bit fidelity.
Methinx the Sound Blaster-16 is the full high fidelity card.
Cheers ...
/
\ tu!
/ ~~~
... Hi. My name is Rover, I'll paint your car yellow free.
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From: POE LIM Number: 199
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/08/93 5:15a
Subj: Re: Cd Rom Refer: NONE
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RE> Have you checked the Creative Pacific BBS (02) 906-
RE> 8392 lately?? I was on
RE> there last night (05/08/93) and found an NT driver plus the most recent
RE> non-BETA DOS drivers.... I wasn't looking for OS/2 stuff, so I'm not
RE> sure, but the CP BBS would be the best place to keep a lookout for one!
Thanks; will keep a lookout for them. What makes them so attractive is the
price; a lot cheaper than most double spin ones.
Cheers,
Poe
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From: POE LIM Number: 200
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/08/93 5:17a
Subj: Pas16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE> any difference between Pro and 16/16 ASP stuff.... Two guys at work have
RE> Pros (one a Pro, the other a Pro 2) and they've run all the stuff I've
RE> managed to collect (and I've run their apps!)...
Ok, sounds reasonable; I've been hearing talk of a new card coming out RSN, so
it's difficult to know whether to buy now, or wait for the new card using the
new Yamaha chip that supposedly integrates MIDI.
RE> The machine with PAS 16/NEC CDU-55 gave 300Kbps throughput, the machine
RE> with SB 16 ASP/CR563 gave 584Kbps....
Sounds like nothing to recommend the Sony then, although it could also be
better interface. :)
Is T7G really as good as reports say it is?
Cheers,
Poe
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From: NEIL ATWOOD Number: 201
To: BOB HALL Date: 08/06/93 5:07p
Subj: RULES! Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
> =======================>NOTE<=========================================
> 6. As of the current date on this message, NO discussion of ADULT
> CDROM's will be tolerated. As of this date, it is prohibited in this
> echo. No advertisements of Adult discs will be permitted. In
> accordance with FIDONET rules, you will be notified of a violation, and
> actions according to FIDONET will be taken. Please in the future, take
> your discussions of any, all, etc. ADULT CDROMs to some other echo.
> Start one of your own if you want to talk about them.
> =======================================================================
Excellent decision Bob!
Cheers!
<Neil><
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From: STEPHEN HARRINGTON Number: 202
To: VICTOR ZDANOWICZ Date: 08/08/93 11:57a
Subj: Cd-Rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-= Marcus Lee said to Victor Zdanowicz about Cd-Rom: =-
ML>Ok, I was just doing this a couple of months ago...
ML>The best drive at the moment is the Toshiba T3401B-330Kb/s transfer
ML>200ms access.... quite literally the best single platter CDROM drive...
ML>The best place (for prices) to get the drive + SCSI card is Laser Baud
ML>(can't really remember if it is in Melbourne or Sydney) AUS$1190 or
ML>so...
While I agree the Toshiba is the "Rolls Royce" of drives at the moment, and I'd
dearly love one myself, there are perhaps more cost-effective solutions
available... for example the new Panasonic series CR-562B/563 drives hook up
directly to a SoundBlaster Pro/ SoundBlaster 16 ASP, and while slower than the
Toshiba at 320ms or so, still have the 300kb/s double speed and XA, Photo-CD,
Multi-session etc that you need, for a much more reasonable $400.00 Australian
or so... including interface card if you don't have a SoundBlaster to hook it
up to... I'm VERY happy with mine so far... I couldn't justify the extra
$790.00 for the Toshiba myself.
Just offering an alternative opinion, with no intention of starting an
argument, Marcus! :-)
Regards,
Stephen Harrington
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From: DAN WALDRON Number: 203
To: ALL Date: 08/09/93 1:58a
Subj: MITSUMI CD ROM DRIVE Refer: NONE
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Hi All,
In need of a bit of techo advice.
I have here a Mitsumi CRMC-LU002S Internal CDROM drive, it is out of an
Acer 386SX. I want to throw this drive into a new machine, but I do not
know the interface type. It is a 40 pin ribbon cable.
Is it possible for me to hook this drive up to my SB PRO 2.0 CD
Interface or to a standard AT-Bus interface? If I need drivers, can
anyone help me here, ie making them available for FREQ V32.
If not, where (preferably in Australia) can I get a card to drive this
bitch?
All comments appreciated
Netmail 3:712/515.20
Fax +61-2 831-6919
Rgds
Dan
... (-: :-) (-: :-) (-: :-)(-: :-)(-: :-)(-: :-)(-: :-) <grin>
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From: DAVID EAGEN Number: 204
To: ALL Date: 08/06/93 4:08p
Subj: 7th Guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Is there a fix out for T7G that supports S3 video boards yet? Where
can I get it? Dave
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 205
To: ALL Date: 08/07/93 8:07a
Subj: CDROM title for $19 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Call 310-602-2076 8am-12pm, 6pm-9pm PST ask Wee Yung.
CIA Wolrd Fact Book.WI..........$19* CICA windows sharewares.........$19*
King's Quest V..................$19* Kodak Photo access..............$19*
Mantis Experimential Fighter....$19* Mario is Missing game...........$19*
So much Shareware Disk II or I..$19* Shareware overload..............$19*
Shakespear complete text........$19* Tempra Access Photo CD..........$19*
Toolworks Reference Library.....$19* Toolworks Grolier Encyclopedia..$59
Total Baseball Dos/Mac..........$29 Time Table of History...........$19*
World View......................$19* World Atlas V. 3.2 MPC..........$19*
Add $3 for shipping and handling. No exchange for difference titles.
* OLX 2.1 TD * voice 310-602-2076.8am-12pm,6pm-9pm PST. Fax 310-402-7240
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 206
To: ALL Date: 08/07/93 8:07a
Subj: CDROM drive sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Sound Galaxy NX Pro + Mitsumi CD-ROM bundle....................$289.
CD-ROM Mitsumi CRMC LU-005S w/contlr 630MB, 350ms, Kodak comp. $179.
CD-ROM Sony 31A with controller ...............................$229.
CD-ROM Panasonic 522B for SB Pro 380ms w/caddy.................$195.
CD-ROM Panasonic 562B 320ms w/contlr caddyless 300k/s 64kcache.$279.
CD-ROM Texel DM-3024 SCSI, 265ms, 300k/sec transfer, 64k cache $409.
CD-ROM Toshiba MX3401b SCSI drive,Kodak comp.200ms, 256k cache $469.
Creative Lab Discovery 8. CD-ROM + SB Pro + 3 CDs + Speakers...$399.*
Creative Lab Discovery 16. CD-ROM+ SB 16 ASP +3 CDs + Speakers.$459.*
Call 310-602-2076 8AM-12PM, 6PM-9PM PST or mail order payable to: TRUC
16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723. Accept money order, COD $5extra
* OLX 2.1 TD * voice 310-602-2076.8am-12pm,6pm-9pm PST. Fax 310-402-7240
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From: TONY MACE Number: 207
To: SAMSON LUK Date: 08/08/93 1:56p
Subj: BBS Door for CD-ROM Refer: NONE
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Hello Samson!
Wednesday August 04 1993 10:31, Samson Luk wrote to All:
SL> Any good recommendation on BBS DOOR for access Shareware CD-ROM for
SL> Maximus? Where can I FREQ them? Thanks!
Freq "FILES" from me and take a look at the Brainex door section. They have a
GREAT rom door that will work with any rom and almost any bbs program.
Tony
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 208
To: DOUG SNELL Date: 08/09/93 12:54a
Subj: Re: Wanted Refer: NONE
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>> Boris,
>> Do you have ICONBLAST on CD by any chance. I'm looking for
>> this CD and can't find it locally.
>> Thanks
>> Doug
Sorry, haven't seen it nor heard of it as yet.
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress....... Not Just Another Off-Line Mail System <tm>!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 209
To: MARTIN TAYLOR Date: 08/09/93 1:18a
Subj: Re: Night Owls 9 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Hi Boris.
>>
>>
>> $$$$$$$ R E D H O T C D' S A T R E D H O T P R I C E S $$$$$$$
>>
>> ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 - PRICE - $25.00ec
>>
>> You can also fax us your order at 216-225-6759 as well !!
>>
>> Do you do overseas orders? Do you also take VISA? If so, I'd
>> also like a catalog too. If it's free you can post it to:
>>
We ship all over the world and do accept Visa/MasterCard.
>> If it's not free, then let me know how much it is and if you
>> have PC-SIG Ver 13 and MS Encarta, and their prices, in stock.
PC-SIG 13 should be in sometime this week, I think and will have a price
of $25. on it. As for Ecarta, it's priced at $395. and is currently
out of stock, but due in within the next 2 weeks.
Interested, drop us a note via the node/net number below and we'll be
happy to assist you further.
Boris Osadciw
... Press F1 to Reboot
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 210
To: CHARL CILLIERS Date: 08/09/93 1:18a
Subj: Re: RED HOT SUMMER Refer: NONE
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>> Hiya Boris.
>> I'm a dealer here in south Africa. I also run a BBS. I'm
>> desperately looking for CDROMS and Drives for resale and for
>> Myself. My Requirements : Pioneer DRM604X with the *RIGHT*
>> Controller. And 6 Newest CDROMS to Fill it ! (Has to have
>> Files.bbs) Resale : All Roms and Drives.
>> Or Netmail at Bombed Out BBS 5:7105/6 (HST duals)
>> I'd really appreciate some help/info !
>> All the Best
>>
Charl, the above information is on it's way to you via the net number you
posted. If there is anything else you require, please drop us a note via
our node/number below and we'll do all we can to help you out.
Til then take care....
Boris Osadciw
... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress!
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From: LOIS FRANKEL Number: 211
To: DON RIEB Date: 08/07/93 11:21p
Subj: Re: new adult cd-rom echo Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 08-03-93 10:36 Don Rieb shared these words of wisdom:
DR> can understand if we were chating about cars in a CDROM echo but we
DR> are chating about adult CDROM disc's, that in itself is not ileagal so
DR> then why censor it. Whatever happend to free speech?
1. Echo moderators can set whatever rules they like. No one's free
speech is impaired, as they can always go to another echo.
2. Some sysops prefer for a variety of reasons not to carry "adult"
oriented material, so mixing "adult" material in a general echo causes
them problems. BBS's with adult areas generally restrict those areas to
people over 18. In addition, there have been cases of "adult" cdrom
vendors being raided for pornography. It's understandable that sysops
might feel nervous about carrying references to such discs.
3. Many readers of cdrom echos are simply uninterested in "adult" discs,
and would prefer to have smaller message packets by leaving out messages
they know they aren't interested in. For similar reasons, someone might
want to institute a rule: no discussion of games cdroms - move those to
a different echo, similarly for other more or less specialized areas.
All that goes back to the discretion of the moderator, as in point #1.
Indeed, the Windows echo split into several parts for these sorts of
reasons: people unintrested in Windows programming didn't want to wade
through lots of messages on that subject.
... A clean desk is a sign of a cluttered desk drawer.
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From: CHARLES SHRADER Number: 212
To: ALL Date: 08/08/93 10:02p
Subj: Re: Os/2 mitsumi driver Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SB@> cossette, I ordered the driver got the disk and the only way to get
SB@> ahold of him is by CompuServe. there was no address on any of the docs.
SB@> and of course I tossed out the address that I had once read in an echo.
SB@>
SB@> better yet does anyone know of a good Mitsumi Driver for OS/2 that
SB@> allows you to access the CDROM from an OS/2 Session not just DOS???
SB@>
SB@> Thanks, Scott.
SB@> -!- Maximus/2 2.01wb
SB@> ! Origin: *NETWORK/23 WINNIPEG,MB (204) 275-1532 5/LINES* (1:348/501)
Scott;
Try:
Systems Integration Technoiogies, Inc.
1280 South Powerline Road
Suite 171
Pompano Beach, FL 33069
Cost: $10.00
UPS Ground $4.95
UPS Blue $6.95
I got it, and it works fine. No MM or audio support at this time, but that
is better than using the VDM.
Take care,
Chuck
... Blue Wave - World Tour - 1993
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From: TIM MORAN Number: 213
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/08/93 5:07p
Subj: RED HOT SUMMER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message to Tim Moran <08-03-93 01:46> Boris Osadciw wrote:
BO> PID: SX V3.02/4.01H1G01
BO> >> Do you have OS/2 2.1 on CD?
BO>
BO> On it's way in here !!!
Do you have a price idea?
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From: BRUCE BOWMAN Number: 214
To: DAVID BERNARD Date: 08/08/93 11:48p
Subj: Re: CD-ROMs and DESQview Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message to Dave Summers <08-07-93 13:02> David Bernard wrote:
DB> I use QEMM-386 too and after getting one of the DAK drives to run
DB> fine in DOS it blew up in DV every time.
I also have one of these DAK CD-ROMs, and am experiencing the same problem.
The installation guide was of little help; they just said to run the install
program and it set up my CD-ROM as drive >S<! I do have 6 drives on my system,
but S?
Not knowing any of the MSCDEX command switches at the time, I was at a loss
for a couple of weeks until someone more "in the know" told me what all the
MSCDEX switches meant.
DB> it set it up and read my DOS area and problem I finally figured out
DB> the card was set to use IRQ 3 and while I was in DOS itself and I the
DB> CD-ROM I was not using my modem on Comm 2 that also was on IRQ 3.
Thank you very much -- this is probably the problem, although it will also
bomb even if I'm not using the modem. Go figure. Anyway, although I know
this wasn't addressed to me, it really does give me a starting point! I'll let
you know how it works.
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From: NITIN N. GUPTA Number: 215
To: ALL Date: 08/08/93 10:41p
Subj: Good Buy or Rip Off Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I went to the computer show at The Royal Trade Plaza Hotel and they had a
double speed cd-rom drive with a sb-16 asp clone for $400. Do you think this
is a good deal and what kind of questions should I ask the guy about the
hardware?
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From: ALAN EDWARDS Number: 216
To: NICHOLAS GOLDWYN Date: 08/03/93 10:12a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Drives?? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MS> It makes me continually wonder why so many of these drives are being
MS> sold, when they have this apparent design flaw??? I mean, when the
Does this mean there is something major wrong with the Mitsumi drives?
Thanks to my mail packets getting screwed, I missed the beginning of this,
but I am interested because I am considering buying a Mitsumi drive.
Alan.
... Sorry, the Dog ate my Blue Wave packet.
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From: NICK PETKOVICH Number: 217
To: NICHOLAS GOLDWYN Date: 08/04/93 1:35a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Drives?? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Nicholas Goldwyn to Mike Shannon <=-
NG> The Mitsumi drives are much cheaper than any others - Pds 139 in the
NG> UK that's at least Pds 100 less than the next best priced. They are
NG> also Multi-Session Photo CD compatible, unlike many other budget
NG> drives.
100 Pounds!! Who are you trying to kid, I can get SCSI CD-ROM drives
for 175+vat. (Or maybe even less)
<< Nick >>
... PLEASE USE OTHER DOOR
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From: JOSE GIMENEZ Number: 218
To: LAURIE BATT Date: 08/02/93 3:08p
Subj: Re: Night Owls V9 Refer: NONE
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> I have Night Owls 9 for $60 AUST
> can be sent +COD/Post
Yes... I'm interesting on your CD... Night Owls...9...
Can you send me one.!!
My english is very bad!! Can you respond me by NEtmail on 2:340/3.2 ??
Thanks!!
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 219
To: ALL Date: 08/08/93 11:24p
Subj: Mitsumi Support Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Mistumi Electric Co.
Dallas Office:
6210 N. Beltline Rd. Ste. 320
Irving, TX
Tel: 214-550-7300
FAX: 214-550-7424
NY
35 Pinelwan Rd.
Melville, NY 11747
Tel: 516-752-7730
FAX: 516-752-7490
Chicago
2101 Arlington Heights Rd.
Arlington Heights, IL 60005
Tel: 708-593-7600
Fax: 708-593-7610
Santa Clara
4655 Old Ironsides Dr. Ste. 130
Santa Clara, CA 95040
Tel: 408-970-0700
Fax: 408-727-5337
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 220
To: ALL Date: 08/08/93 11:31p
Subj: So Much Shareware III Refer: NONE
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So Much Shareware III $21
Yes, we are selling Night Owl's 9 also for the same price. We also have
hundreds of other titles in stock. For a catalog FREQ CATALOG from 1:138/116 or
1:138/120
GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400 or 1-800-373-0628
1-206-473-1634 or 1-800-277-5179 FAX
All major credit cards accepted
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 221
To: ALL Date: 08/08/93 11:33p
Subj: Liquadation Discs Refer: NONE
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CD PowerBox $12
CD Winbox $12
Night Owl's v.9 $21
GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400
1-206-473-1634 FAX
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 222
To: ALL Date: 08/08/93 11:34p
Subj: Walnut Creek Releases Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
We now have Giga Games in stock!..
Also CICA Windows will be updated next week. We do carry entire line of Walnut
Creek.
GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400
1-206-473-1634 FAX
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From: STEWART ROTHMAN Number: 223
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/08/93 1:01p
Subj: Re: PRO AUDIO OR SOUNDBLAST? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>RE> You forgot to add that the PAS 16 SCSI port is slower than a
>RE> molasses drip at the North Pole!
>
Sorry Rowan, but you're using a very wrong example......
I live in Fairbanks, Alaska, about 12 miles North of North Pole, Alaska and
in the summer when it's 80 above and warmer, molasses runs very well and
fast. In winter when it's 50 or 60 below, it won't run at all, so nothing
could be slower as it's standing still.... rigidly!!!!
Incidently, I also have a PAS 16 card in my 386-33 Northgate Elegance
system and my External Toshiba T3401B that is plugged into it's SCSI Port
runs very fast and efficient in BOTH winter and summer!!!!!!!!!
At times I forget I'm using a 200 ms access drive as it appears to be as
fast as my 15 ms access time Hard Drive. I know that's not possibile and it
isn't, it just appears so. From your answer to the person who was commenting
on it, it's obvious that you've never used a 3401B plugged into a PAS 16 SCSI
card!!!!
I've never used a SOUNDBLAST, but if it's faster than the PAS 16,
it must be greased lightning through salt air!!!!!!
;-}
Stu
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From: ATSON NAKAYAMA Number: 224
To: ALL Date: 08/08/93 8:24a
Subj: General Midi Cdroms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for cdroms that have General Midi files on them. Vendor must
be able to ship to Tokyo, Japan. Please reply with full price including
shipping and handling.
Thanks.
* Freddie 1.2.5 *
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From: BARRY GRINTER Number: 225
To: GREG SORCSEK Date: 08/08/93 9:51a
Subj: MSCDEX/Drivers Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Greg,
Quoting from my CD drive manual,"MSCDEX is an executable program for MS-DOS 3.1
or higher that works in conjunction with the device driver (for your particular
drive) to allow your computer to access CD-ROM disk in the drive as if they
were MS-DOS formatted disks." This program is required because CD-ROM discs
are formatted in one of 3 or 4 different 'standard' formats, none of which is
understandable by DOS. 'Reader' programs that are supplied with different
CD-ROM titles may be able to read the disc directly, and do not require MSCDEX,
but if you want to use discs full of shareware, pictures, etc. then you need
this program. It is available from Microsoft directly, or from almost any BBS.
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From: CORRY MACFARLANE Number: 226
To: THOMAS KINNEN Date: 08/08/93 2:13p
Subj: Re: POINEER CD CHANGER SYSTEM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TK-> I have a IN-2000 W/3.30 Bios (1990) and it will not reconige the 6
TK-> disk
TK-> changer... There is a newer version of the BIOS out that will
Thanks for the info. I do have the newer BIOS that is supposed to work. Now
all I have to do is find a drive within my price range.
Corry Macfarlane
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From: JON SHEARIN Number: 227
To: MARK WOMACK Date: 08/08/93 1:59p
Subj: CD-ROM HELP! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> I have the Mitsumi drive and you must load 2 files: The .SYS file in
> your config.sys and the MSCDEX in your autoexec.bat.
> For the life of me, I can't get the .SYS file to load in high
> memory. I use QEMM but even went as far as to install 386MAX on my system.
> Neither will let me load the file high - both lock up my system when
> they boot. I've rebooted about 500 times over this and just gave
> up. Anyone else not able to load the .SYS file high?
Mark,
I'm not sure how to load the .SYS file high using QEMM or 386MAX,
however, I CAN load it high using EMM386.EXE that came with MS-DOS 5.0 or 6.0
or Windows 3.1.
All you need to do is add the /D=40 option to the end of your command
loading EMM386.EXE. Such as:
DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS /D=40
Then you can set the DEVICEHIGH on your Mitsumi .SYS driver. It works
like a charm. I've done this on over 40 machines now. In fact, it is how I use
my Mitsumi LU-005. This "silly" slight-of-hand is covered in the Mitsumi manual
(although not very well). It's tucked in near the back.
Hope this helps.
Later,
JS.
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From: JON SHEARIN Number: 228
To: VICTOR HEALEY Date: 08/08/93 2:08p
Subj: MISTUMI/SB/SBPRO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> some audio card maker was going to release a special
> version of their card with a Mitsumi interface rather then a scsii
Victor,
Currently ATI produces a sound board called the Stereo FX/CD that
includes the Mitsumi interface. The board is jumperless and is configured
through software only. The good news is that it does an excellent job in
controlling the CD-ROM and it has 8 watt output (it can also tolerate having a
line-in device and microphone attached at the same time). However, the bad news
is that it is only Sound Blaster compatible NOT SBPro. Win some, Lose some. The
card retails for about $169 in the Raleigh, NC area.
If you need any more info on it, let me know.
Later,
JS.
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From: FRANK RUSKO Number: 229
To: TIM BANDY Date: 08/08/93 9:33p
Subj: Encyclopedia Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TIM BANDY duly noted in a message to JASON WONG on 07-28-1993 and
mentioned
TB> -=> Quoting Jason Wong to Carlos Fernandez Sanz <=-
TB>
TB> JW> sorry to butt it - are the text in these encyclopedias comparable
TB> JW> (in length/detail) to the multi-volume paper ones?
TB>
TB> Good question! Since there are many varieties of reference sets, the
TB> accurate answer is yes...and no. Yes, the CD encyclopedias compare
TB> well with lower level 21 to 27 volumne sets such as Funk & Wagnals and
TB> American Academic encyclopedias but none come even close to a serious
TB> set such as Britannica or even World Book.
Hello Tim.
Wondered if you have heard of Britannica coming out on CD-ROM..?
Frank
Entered on <<07-28-1993>> from Shawnigan Lake B.C.
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From: FRANK RUSKO Number: 230
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 08/08/93 9:33p
Subj: Cd-Rom Interfaces Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BRICE FLECKENSTEIN duly noted in a message to TOM RUBENS on 08-03-1993
and mentioned
BF> >Also, thoughts on SCSI cards.
BF>
BF> Always IN-2000 - don't settle for lesser Adaptec stuff....
BF>
Hello Brice..
I had an Always IN-2000 and dumped for the Adaptec so called lesser
stuff.. Best move I ever made...Hooked up an external Toshiba and it was
one of the easiest installs that I have ever had...My CD is now
available for DOS, Win and OS/2 sessions.....Frank
I still do not think that Always supports OS/2..
Entered on <<08-03-1993>> from Shawnigan Lake B.C.
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From: LOU PETRALIA Number: 231
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 08/06/93 11:58p
Subj: CD-ROM GAMES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Ashwin Bihari to All <=-
AB> Hey all, I just bought a CD-ROM and got a couple of shareware disks
AB> with it, I was looking for some games to buy for it, so if anyone has
AB> any good games for sale please leave me a message and also could
AB> someone suggest some good games to buy, I was told that 7th guest is
AB> good, is it really, what are the specs required to run that game...
AB> Please write back, C-ya
AB> Ashwin
Try and get ahold of 'Day Of The Tentacle' on of the funnest games you'll
ever play. Game comes complete with voice and great graphics. It's
not the 7th Guest but you'll laugh a lot more. As an added feature
my CD rom version came with a clue book. Check it out.
... * Thought links corrupted... Reformat brain? (Y/N)
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From: JUERGEN WERNER Number: 232
To: CHRIS CONKLIN Date: 08/07/93 7:32p
Subj: Re: Free Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please send me your catalog
my adress
Jürgen Werner
Westring 51
D-44787 Bochum
Germany
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From: JUERGEN WERNER Number: 233
To: DON RIEB Date: 08/07/93 7:45p
Subj: Re: FREE CDROM Catalog. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
please send me your catalog
my adress
Jürgen Werner
westring 51
D-44787 Bochum
Germany
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From: TOM MILLER Number: 234
To: MARK WOMACK Date: 08/09/93 2:21p
Subj: Re: Cd-rom Help! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Re the Mitsumi software. As far as I know the software the Mitsumi uses is
similar to the software all cd rom drives use in terms of the amount of ram
used. As too your problem loading the .sys file high , I'm using Ms-Dos 6.0
and Memmaker loads it high with no problem on my system.
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From: TOM MILLER Number: 235
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/09/93 2:43p
Subj: Re: Encyclopedias Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
The Software Toolworks Encyclopedia that comes with the Soundblaster is the
latest Windows version, 1.5. The same as the latest Groliers version available
which is also 1.5.
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From: JAMES FRAZEE Number: 236
To: SAMSON LUK Date: 08/08/93 4:46p
Subj: Re: BBS Door for CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Samson Luk to All <=-
SL> Any good recommendation on BBS DOOR for access Shareware CD-ROM for
SL> Maximus? Where can I FREQ them? Thanks!
SL> Regards
SL>
SL> -!-
SL> ! Origin: AsiaEmail Express, PEP/V.32 Gateway to Asia (1:105/42.301)
SL>
If you find one,could you call and upload it to (206) 691-5042
I will be trying to run RomBrain,that is for DOOR.SYS bbses.
... Documentation - The worst part of programming.
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 237
To: DAVE SUMMERS Date: 08/08/93 2:34p
Subj: CD-ROMs and DESQview Refer: NONE
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-> When I tried running the CD-Player in a window, I got a message from
-> prompting me to reboot or terminate the program. Then when I tried l
-> MSCDEX again it said it's already loaded and refuses to let me re-loa
-> CD-Player which forces me to reboot.
Okay for one MSCDEX is NOT a CD player utility. It is a device driver
which allows dos to recognize it as a drive and give it a letter (i.e.
E).
Second, since MSCDEX is a device drive it is constantly in memory hence
the message telling you you can't load it twice.
-> Anyway, I tried switching the DMA jumpers on the SBPRO card to DMA 3
-> that would work but it didn't.
I don't think it is the DMA channel, have you tried running the said
program from the command line? Is it a music CD you are trying to
operate? I run my program (playcd.exe) from the command line to start
the CD, then I exit and go do something else, this for instance. :)
If you haven't tried on the command line give it a shot, you have
nothing to lose, and you are NOT a dumb a#@ !
( I am only 17, but installed my own drive and have studied everything I
can about the drivers, players etc...)
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 238
To: ALLEN BURLESON Date: 08/08/93 2:38p
Subj: WILLIE BEAMISH CD Refer: NONE
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-> Has anyone purchased this cd? Saw it pretty cheap at a computer fair
-> I haven't played the game before. Is it interesting or boring?
I have the software version. It is pretty interesting and hard!
There are a lot of puns in it, for example nintari.
It has cartoon type graphics and excellent sound.
The CD version has talking characters I believe.
It is from Dynamix inc. here in Eugene, OR. a subsidiary of Sierra
On-Line inc. There Tech support number is 209-683-8989 if you have
trouble.
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 239
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/08/93 2:41p
Subj: A FEW $10 CD'S LEFT!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Can you get me a brochure?
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 240
To: GREG SORCSEK Date: 08/08/93 2:47p
Subj: MSCDEX/Drivers Refer: NONE
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-> What exactly does MSCDEX do and where can I get it?
-> Are drivers available anywhere besides Toshiba?
MSCDEX stands for MicroSoft CD EXtensions, and you should be able to get
it with Windows 3.1
As forwhat it does, it gives the drive a letter like E:>\ for instance
and lets dos actually read disks like they were floppies. Except if you
try CHKDSK or |more it tells you cannot run ____ on network drive.
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 241
To: DAVID CALVIN Date: 08/08/93 2:56p
Subj: Cd-rom Help! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I guess my message wasn't clear, I don't want to listen to music CD's
-> my computer, I have a CD player for that. I just want to be able to
-> hear CD-ROM music and sound FX's on my CD-ROM drive.
Okay looka t the back of the CD-ROM controller card if you have one.
There should be a pair of RCA jacks on it. All you need is an RCA to
1/8" stereo cable and connect it to the Audio IN port of the sound card.
Now, if it is connected to the Sound Card, you need to locate a jack on
the CD-ROM unit. Should be a 4 wire connection. The sound card is either
4 or 5, SB or PAS respectively. For a PAS you need to buy a cable that
will a 4 wire connector at one end and a 5 at the other.
If you have a SB you need to reverse the wires in the plug at one end,
but only on Mitsumi drive. BTW- What CD-Rom do you have?
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 242
To: RON WATKINS Date: 08/08/93 2:59p
Subj: CD SPEEDWAY Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Ram is measured in NANO-seconds; disks are measured in
-> MILLI-seconds. Nano-seconds are, I believe, millionths; milli-second
-> are thousanths.
Nano is Billionth and Milli is thousandth, hence 1000ms CD-Rom drives
are 1sec access...
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From: DANNY TONG Number: 243
To: DON RIEB Date: 08/08/93 9:57p
Subj: Re: free cdrom catalog. Refer: NONE
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DR> SaveWare's new CDROM catalog is ready for delivery.
DR> Just post your addresses...
I like one of your catalog.
Danny Tong 6114 LaSalle Ave #282 Oakland, CA 94611
Thanks.
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From: DANNY TONG Number: 244
To: POE LIM Date: 08/08/93 10:05p
Subj: Pas16 Refer: NONE
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PL> I'm tossing up between the 16 and the Pro, as there are not much
PL> in software which is 16 specific, but the Pro seems well supported.
The PAS16 is AdLib and Sound Blaster compatible. So all programs will run
on it. Some programs are PAS16 specific. If you want immediate support, the
SBPro is a good choice. If you're looking into the future the PAS16 is an
excellent choice. Look at all the reviews.
PL> Is it true that the 16 is not Pro compatible (ie software that uses
PL> the Pro in stereo will not do so with the 16)?
True. The SBPro is not the SB. The SBPro is a better card than the SB. It
has support for it just like the PAS16. The SBPro's stereo is really one SB
on each side. The PAS16 is real 16-bit stereo card.
PL> Not been following it much for some time, but am keen.
Check any sound card reviews this year. The PAS16 has always been #1 or #2
(after the $400+ Turtle Beach). Includes an industry standard SCSI port. It
really is a very good sound card.
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From: DANNY TONG Number: 245
To: WES THOMPSON Date: 08/08/93 10:07p
Subj: Proaudio 16 Refer: NONE
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WT> Don't worry about helping me because i have a new one coming in
WT> the mail and i am sending the old one back to mediavision
At least we know MV has decent customer support.
Haven't had any problems with my setup.
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 246
To: ALL Date: 08/08/93 11:07p
Subj: CD PACKS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-------------[ CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS ]------------------------------------
4. Night Owl 8.0 5. Night Owl 9 6. CD Winbox 4. House of Games
Night Owl 9.0 Pier 2 Windows 93 Game Arena
------------- ------ ---------- ----------
$55 $59 $44 $35
SPECIAL BONUS: Powerpak Gold 3.0 Revised Edition only $4 w/ purchase!
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 247
To: ALL Date: 08/08/93 11:07p
Subj: CD SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
STARVECTOR CD-ROM BLOWOUT SPECIALS!
Bibles & Religion...$10 Colossal Cookbook...$10 Our Solar System....$10
Shareware Overload..$10 Windows 93..........$21 SoundWAV............$24
Deathstar Arcade....$10 Powerpak Gold 3.0...$15 House of Games......$20
Ham Radio 3.0.......$10 Sound Sensations....$10 Windoware...........$10
Complete Bookshop...$10 Technotools.........$10 Too Many Typefonts..$10
Compton's Interact..$95 Clipart Goliath.....$10 Dictionaries/Lang...$10
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: CHRIS CONKLIN Number: 248
To: TERRY WOODWARD Date: 08/09/93 4:58p
Subj: Mac Cdrom distribution Refer: NONE
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I have a few MAC customers who are looking for titles..... Please send me
info this and others you may have..... Thanks.
C-3 Production Systems
PO Box 60144
San Angelo, Tx
76906
915-944-7187
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From: DIANA KIRKSEY Number: 249
To: MARK WOMACK Date: 08/09/93 9:08a
Subj: RE: Cd-rom Help! Refer: NONE
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>For the life of me, I can't get the .SYS file to load in high memory.
>I use QEMM but even went as far as to install 386MAX on my system.
>Neither will let me load the file high - both lock up my system when
>they boot. I've rebooted about 500 times over this and just gave up.
>Anyone else not able to load the .SYS file high?
I've been having problem's trying to use QEMM too.The problems actually
started when I installed my correct Video Card on Windows(Trident 256c),since
then whenever I try to load Qemm,it says that Windows can't load the video
driver in B000.So unfortunately,right now anyway,I'm just having to use
Windows Himem.sys,which leave's me with only 552k conventional memory(I have
4 megs on board).
Does anyone have any suggestions? I tried excluding the B000,but it still did
the same thing.
Thanks
Diana
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From: CHRIS JOHNSON Number: 250
To: ALAN SAWYER Date: 07/30/93 12:10p
Subj: 7th Guest Refer: NONE
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AS> HELLLPPPP!
AS> I just bought 7th Guest and am having problems.
AS> I cant get through the intro.It gets a fair way into the intro
AS> then drops out and say ERROR-02:YOu may have a DMA conflict or
AS> are running in a virtual dos session.PLease help I can figure out what
AS> is wrong.Tell me everything it may be .PLEASE ??
AS> ... All I need is a Wave and a board to surf it on.
AS> --- FMail 0.94
AS> * Origin: The Enterprise, Where insanity reins, +61-3-
AS> 776-7089 (3:633/158.0)
AS>
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From: CHRIS JOHNSON Number: 251
To: ROD FEWSTER Date: 07/30/93 12:26p
Subj: 640 Meg Shareware Studio Refer: NONE
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RF> .
RF> 640 Meg Shareware Studio CDROM
RF> Only US$20 ... including postage anywhere in the world.
RF> MasterCard/Visa/BankDraft OK.
RF> (No foreign personal checks!)
RF> Rod Fewster
RF> PO Box 29
RF> Kallangur
RF> Australia 4503
RF> Netmail 3:640/886
Can you mail me a file list? or file attach a list?
1:130/801.2
Chris Johnson
1302 Concord Ave
Southlake Texas
76092
USA
RF> ---
RF> * Origin: The Edge of Reality! --==[ +61-7-886-1-886 ]==-- (3:640/886)
RF>
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From: ED BAILEY Number: 252
To: JOHN SERRANO Date: 08/08/93 7:04p
Subj: Loom on CD Refer: NONE
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On 08-05-93 John Serrano wrote to All...
JS> You see, I've made it as far as the foundry-I'm in it, but since
JS> the person with whom I've exchanged identies died (meaning I no longer
JS> look like him), I'm basically stuck inside, listening to
JS> the conversation between the foreman and the Bishop, as
JS> well as the incessant pounding by Edgewise:)
I got stuck at this point for a couple of weeks John, and now that I
started to write this, I can't remember how I got out of it.
It has something to do with casting a draft, which you have to do
just as you appear in the hallway after going down the stairs. If you
wait until your image walks all the way forward you can only listen
to the converstaions - and I can't remember what the draft is about,
but you do have it.
I liked the game and found it relaxing except this part.
Ed
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From: DON RIEB Number: 253
To: BILL WYNNE Date: 08/08/93 3:01a
Subj: Re: CD Caching Refer: NONE
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BW> What's a good Cache program for using with a Mitsumi? Didn't I see in here
BW> that one was free if you put their add up on your system, and it worked rea
BW> well?
I just installed a Toshiba 200ms CDROM dirve for a customer and set up CD
SPEEDWAY for him. His drive allready had a 256k buffer allreay in it and
the CDROM cache helped. I sugested and he took my suggestion and got rid
of the SoundBlaster Pro 16 and the expecive 16bit SCSI controller to run it
and he got the Pro Audio Spectrum 16 but card and it repalaced the SB pro
and the $175 SICS card both. We tested a few 600k .GIF files and at 27
seconds to total load time and with the cache in place it took 21 seconds
then 17 seconds the second time to load. What you do though is you make a
RAM disc for CDSPEEDWAY to utialize as a holding area for current files you
have accessed and it will store it there as if it just copied it to the RAM
drive. I went and ran the same .GIF's (CDSPEEDWAY rnamed to nuberd files) and
they loaded up just fine. So I suspect what it dose is runs if from the RAM
instead of the CDROM drive when you go and access the same file a second time.
It will be much faster but hay when was the last tiem you looked a a .GIF file
twice. May be better suited in that respect for a CDROM game where it has to
reload the same data over and over again. Or say a data base CDROM exct. All
in all the customer was pleased with the product as he is a die hard X Gif
viewer and had me set up the fastes system posible to man. I installed a
Dimond Steath Vido controller and a Non interlaced 15 inch monitor to speed
up the graphics and this helped somwhat but we did notice a good increes with
the cache. I set up a 2 meg RAM disc and I think you can get away with less
with no problems. He can go one step further and get a faster cpu as he has a
386 33, just make shure you have the proper memory to assure 0 wait states
(Memory runing as fast as the CPU).
Hope this helps you out and best wishes.
** Don Rieb **
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From: DON RIEB Number: 254
To: ERIC TREMBLAY Date: 08/08/93 3:16a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Driver for Magnavox Refer: NONE
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ET> I'm looking for a CD-ROM driver for a Magnavox CDD 461 External
ET> CD-Rom machine. Any help would be appreciated. Please leave a BBS name
ET> and/or node number for me to download/file request the driver.
You can call 708-724-2427 and leave me a message and I will file attach them
for you on your next call as they are not online. Also download CDROMCAT.ZIP
from the SaveWare file base.
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From: DON RIEB Number: 255
To: ALL Date: 08/08/93 3:22a
Subj: FREE CDROM CATALOG! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
New CDROM catalog, F'REQ 1:115/724 for CDROMCAT.ZIP or Send me Netmail for a
printed catalog. You can also call 708-657-1160 or write SaveWare, P.O.
Box 274, Glenview, ILL. 60025. Nention you seen this ad in the FIDONET for
a great price break!
** Don Rieb **
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From: BRUCE BOWMAN Number: 256
To: MARK WOMACK Date: 08/09/93 8:19a
Subj: Re: Cd-rom Help! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message to Tom Miller <08-07-93 14:04> Mark Womack wrote:
MW> For the life of me, I can't get the .SYS file to load in high memory.
MW> I use QEMM but even went as far as to install 386MAX on my system.
MW> Neither will let me load the file high - both lock up my system when
MW> they boot. I've rebooted about 500 times over this and just gave up.
If you've been using QEMM's Optimize program to order your drivers, you can
just about forget it. My experience, anyway, has shown that Optimize just
doesn't know how to handle CD-ROM drivers (or most anything else, for that
matter). You're a lot better off trying to figure out the best order and what
region to put things in on your own.
Try loading the SYS file last, in the largest region available. They seem to
take more space to initialize than they do in operation. This was the only way
I could get mine to load high and still work.
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From: STEVE GERWECK Number: 257
To: CHRIS CONKLIN Date: 08/09/93 4:15p
Subj: Free Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Ron Chase to Chris Conklin <=-
CC>C-3 Production Systems is now online. If you would like to
CC>receive a catalog of CD-ROM disks at discount prices, leave message here,
gi
CC>me a call or write to the address below.
... Steve Gerweck, 530 Concetta Drive, Monroe, MI 48161-3542
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From: STEVE GERWECK Number: 258
To: DON RIEB Date: 08/09/93 4:16p
Subj: FREE CDROM Catalog. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting James Frazee to Don Rieb <=-
JF> Here is my address:
... Steve Gerweck, 530 Concetta Drive, Monroe, MI 48161-3542
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From: BRUCE BOWMAN Number: 259
To: LOIS FRANKEL Date: 08/09/93 8:40p
Subj: Re: new adult cd-rom echo Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I can understand why we wouldn't want to discuss adult materials here.
However, I seem to have missed the original post. Is an adult CD-ROM area
being created?
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From: ROBERT MOORE Number: 260
To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 08/08/93 11:05p
Subj: CD ROM Drives Refer: NONE
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TB> I don't have enough profit margin to give that kind of
TB> discount. I don't even make $10 on the controller card and
TB> the cable
TB> actually costs me over $10. The best I can do (and the only
TB> option for offering a discount) is $15 off each
TB> drive. So 590 - ( 4 * 15 ) = $530
TB> That is a very good deal for 4 drives, controller,
TB> caddies,drivers and 30 day warranty.
TB> Thanks for your inquiry. 205-824-2552
OK, I agree. I'll take them. I will try to call you on Monday the 9th of
August. If for some reason I do not get through I can be reached at
804/340-9138 during business hours (Eastern Standard Time). Can you set aside
four drives with caddies, controller, cable for four drives and the software
drivers? Do you take Mastercard/VISA, if not you can probably ship C.O.D.
company check, right?
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From: ROBERT MOORE Number: 261
To: ED LION Date: 08/08/93 11:09p
Subj: CD ROM Drives Refer: NONE
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EL> You might be better off getting a 6-disc CD changer,
EL> uses 1 drive
EL> letter + 1 IRQ....and only 1 driver....
Ok, I will bite, how much?
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From: CHRISTIAN KADERUD Number: 262
To: ANYONE? Date: 08/07/93 4:04p
Subj: Wing Commander II Deluxe Editon Refer: NONE
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(with Special Operations I & II plus Speech Accessory Pack)
Anyone gotten <subject> to work with a Mitsumi internal CD-ROM?
The game lock-ups after i have completed the configuration, when it's suppose
to start WC.
Any answers appreciated, right now i'm thinking of returning the game to the
retaler...
/Chris
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From: RON COLEMAN Number: 263
To: ALL Date: 08/08/93 10:53p
Subj: Cd's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm looking for a good place to mail order a couple of CD's. They are an
Encyclopedia and also the Mayo Clinic disk. Anyone tell we where I can find
the best deal,or anyone have a used one to sell reasonable ? Thanks.
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From: SHAUN RADER Number: 264
To: DAVID EAGEN Date: 08/09/93 9:19p
Subj: 7th guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
<<***** On 08-06-93, DAVID EAGEN wrote to ALL: *****>>
DE> Is there a fix out for T7G that supports S3 video boards yet? Where
DE>can I get it? Dave
I don't think Virgin Games is planning on supporting the S3 video boards. I
read that they said the S3 boards are just too slow. That's too bad because
I have an S3 video board... and it seems to work fine in Windows. I got a
2% on the video test for The 7th Guest! Pretty sad huh? I used to get 1%
with my old Trident.
-Shaun Rader
~~~
* VbReader 1.5 #NR * "Daddy, what does FORMATTING DRIVE C mean?"
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* Origin: The Diamond Bar BBS - 909-923-1031 - Ontario, CA (1:218/101)
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 265
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 08/09/93 10:28a
Subj: Re: Magnto-optical disc Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
HP> -> HP> Okay, The MO drive in the articles I have read, uses a laser to
HP> -> HP> soften the plastic so a magnetic beam can change the disk.
HP> ->
HP> -> A magnetic beam? Are you sure?
HP> Yep, absolutely.
HP> I wondered if the constant heating and cooling would 'wear' it out, but
HP> most of the media isguaranteed for 10yrs. or longer.
Sure you may be, but right you are not. In the first place, there is
no such thing as a "magnetic beam". In the second, the LASER does not heat up
the medium at all. The LASER is used to flip the magnetic domains itself. For
a write, the domain is simply changed to the appropriate value. For a read, a
1 is written, and if a pulse is seen in a standard read head nearby, then the
domain was flipped and the value was 0. A 0 is then immediately re-written to
the bit. If no pulse is seen, then the bit already was a 1, and no further
action is taken, except of course to transmit a 1 back to the controller.
Les
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 266
To: SAND DIRT Date: 08/09/93 10:44a
Subj: Re: Compton's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LR> except for one thing: One of the CD-ROM titles was Compton's
LR> Encyclopedia, and the system did not come with any original floppies,
LR> and although there are some executables on the CD-ROM
SD> disc, there does
LR> not seem to be an installation routine, and I cannot see how the
SD> On my copy there is a program called install.exe that will install it
SD> on the hard drive.
Not on this one. I called Comptons and they sent me an installation
disk. 'Bloody dinky software, if you ask me.
Les
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From: HAROLD LEDUC Number: 267
To: GERARD KONNING Date: 08/09/93 12:49p
Subj: Deep throat Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GK> I would like to know if there is anybody who has seen the CD-ROM "Deep
> Throat"... Is it a movie or a game??? I've seen the ads but don't
> know what to think of it...
THERE was a movie by that name I don't think it on cd but it could be?
--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
* Origin: WayStar BBS (1:333/14)
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 268
To: KEN BACHMAN @ 930/1 Date: 08/09/93 12:31p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Games Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey Ken, thanx I just bought King's Quest 5 and Battle Chess the
enchances version and they are great, by the way about 7th guest, my
CD-ROM has 150kb/sec transfer rate but a 350 ms access time, would that
work, anyway I can't convince my dad to get me a $55 game, so I think I
will got for something else until the price comes down. C-ya
Ashwin
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* Origin: Hawk's Nest BBS Methuen, Ma. (508) 688-1979(1:324/123)
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 269
To: ROY COCHRUN Date: 08/09/93 12:36p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey Roy, the problem with my Mitsumi was that, I used to use the
MTMCDE.SYS( the DMA transfer driver) and it worked fine for a couple of
days and then slowly the CD-ROM failed to work, that is whenever I
unzipped a file from the shareware CD, almost all of them had an error
or CRC error and thus the .exe and .com would not run. One of my
friends told me that I had to use MTMCDS.SYS(I think), this is the
NON-DMA transfer driver, and thus that means that I have a DMA conflict
, well that's how I fixed my problem, and now everything works fine and
I just bought King's Quest 5 and Battle chess enchances version and they
both work fine. Well I hope that helps and by the way do you have any
games for the CD-ROM, if so what? C-ya
Ashwin
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* Origin: Hawk's Nest BBS Methuen, Ma. (508) 688-1979(1:324/123)
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From: MARK WALKER Number: 270
To: PETER DETTELIS Date: 08/10/93 3:31a
Subj: new rules Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
lET ME KNOW WHEN WE CAN START IT AND HOW....
--- WM v2.09/92-0125
* Origin: Ultimate Connection BBS - Jackson, MS - 601-366-4636 (1:3632/
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From: MIGUEL GARCIA Number: 271
To: ALL Date: 08/10/93 2:46p
Subj: IRON HELIX Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone know about a CD title called Iron Helix?
Is it available for the PC?
Thanks.
* KWQ/2 1.2a * If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test (KWQ Be
.............................................................................
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From: TOM GUELKER Number: 272
To: MIKE WARWICK Date: 08/07/93 3:22p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Controller Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MW> 'Scuse me for coming in here, but do you know where I can get a *driver*
MW> for a Mitsumi drive (proprietary controller card), that will work with
MW> OS2 2.1? Nearest place I could find was Stuttgart, Germany.
MW> Would like to find one here that supports full MMPC. Any help
MW> appreciated...
I'm also looking for a driver for OS/2 for a Mitsumi reader. Help!
Tom
System Operator
* OLX 2.2 * The Garage BBS (618)344-8466 USR 16.8K 2 gigabytes
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From: TOM GUELKER Number: 273
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/07/93 3:25p
Subj: Re: W.O.R.M. DRIVES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Boris! I finally persuaded a local BBS to get this echo. I've been
"without" for over a year since Comm Central moved out of state.
You'll be hearing from me regularly again! You've gotta be THE best
dealer in this echo. Price/service/patience are all 100% for this
Dutchman!
Tom Guelker
* OLX 2.2 * DANGER! DANGER! Computer store ahead, hide wallet.
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From: TOM GUELKER Number: 274
To: DAVID CALVIN Date: 08/07/93 3:30p
Subj: Cd-rom Help! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DC> I guess my message wasn't clear, I don't want to listen to music CD's on
DC> my computer, I have a CD player for that. I just want to be able to
DC> hear CD-ROM music and sound FX's on my CD-ROM drive.
But...but...but... :)
Why not take a listen to your audio CD's on your computer? Hook it up to
a decent sound card, and use MCS Stereo as the software interface, and
you'll be throwing your audio CD player out the window fast! I'm hooked!
Tom
* OLX 2.2 * The Garage BBS (618)344-8466 USR 16.8K 2 gigabytes
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From: TOM GUELKER Number: 275
To: DAVID M. WHITE Date: 08/09/93 6:22p
Subj: PDR Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DMW> Can you tell me where you got the Physicians Desk Reference on floppy-all
DMW> have been able to get info on is on disk. Any info appreciated.
DMW> Thanks
I saw it at Software, Etc (usually they can be found in most shopping
malls)
Good luck!
Tom
* OLX 2.2 * The Garage BBS (618)344-8466 USR 16.8K 2 gigabytes
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 276
To: JEFF WEBSTER Date: 08/08/93 3:43p
Subj: Cd-Rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JW>I just bought a Cd-Rom and I wanted to know if anyone could
JW>recommend a shareware Cd that would be good for my BBS.
I am running Night Owl 9, Software Vault 2, CD Winbox, and Big Sky Rom
as the shareware CD-Roms on Computer Works BBS. They are all good,
recently released discs. Big Sky Rom is being downloaded from twice as
much as all the others. I have a bulletin that keeps track of this for
me. I sell CD-Roms, and have just lowered the price on Big Sky to $26.
It is an excellent value. Feel free to log on and check out my set up.
You can take a look at Bulletin #11 for the CD-Rom download stats.
Download catalog.zip for a complete price list with CD-Rom descriptions.
Computer Works Jim...
CD-Rom Sales!
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card and COD Orders
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 277
To: SAMSON LUK Date: 08/08/93 8:35p
Subj: BBS Door for CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SL>Any good recommendation on BBS DOOR for access Shareware CD-ROM for Maximus?
>Where can I FREQ them? Thanks!
If you use door.sys as a drop file, then EZROM is the best! It allows
file tagging, searching several discs at once, even if they are offline,
multi-disc changers, various security levels, etc. You can download
EZROM120.ZIP from Computer Works at (205) 671-0092 14.4k.
Jim...
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 278
To: ERIC RICHARDS Date: 08/08/93 9:04p
Subj: CD Sales Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
This message was from JIM LAMBERT to ALL
and was forwarded to you by JIM LAMBERT
----------------------------------------
Some of the shareware CD-Roms I recommend for BBSes are:
So Much Shareware 3 - The tops for Spitfire! .................... $39
Big Sky ROM - Has some older files, but great collection ........ $48
Software Vault 2 - All 1993 Files. Easy to set up ............... $29
CD Winbox - Very recent and NICE collection for Windows fans .... $29
Digital Dreams by Ero Tek - Adult disk with Playboy style pics .. $32
Computer Works (205) 793-4481 Voice Download Catalog.zip
CD-Rom Sales! (205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card & COD Orders
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 279
To: ERIC RICHARDS Date: 08/08/93 9:05p
Subj: CD Sales Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Some of the shareware CD-Roms I recommend for BBSes are:
So Much Shareware 3 - The tops for Spitfire! .................... $39
Big Sky ROM - Has some older files, but great collection ........ $26
Software Vault 2 - All 1993 Files. Easy to set up ............... $29
CD Winbox - Very recent and NICE collection for Windows fans .... $29
Digital Dreams by Ero Tek - Adult disk with Playboy style pics .. $32
Computer Works (205) 793-4481 Voice Download Catalog.zip
CD-Rom Sales! (205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card & COD Orders
- JetMail v1.14 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 280
To: BOB HALL Date: 08/08/93 9:17p
Subj: MANPOWER - NEW GAY CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
RU>MANPOWER, $69, 600 mb of hard-core gay GIFs. 1700 files. All sharp, high-
>quality 800x600x256 original scans. No BBS ads. BBS ready. Easy, just
>type 'MENU'. Brand new - just released.
RU>Send to: GOOSEBUMP GRAPHICS BOX 5167 MENTOR, OH 44061
Hi Bob,
Do the new rules concerning adult CD-Roms apply to everybody? Just
asking due to the repeated ads by Ron. Surely he would stop if he was
getting moderated. ;)
Jim...
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From: MARIO DI MAMBRO Number: 281
To: LOUIS CARRESI Date: 08/09/93 12:06a
Subj: Re: * x-rated cd-rom * Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Louis Carresi to John Larkin <=-
LC> -=( John Larkin might recently have said to Gary Shade about Re: *
LC> x- rated cd-rom * )=-
JL> *** Quoting Gary Shade to John Larkin ***
GS> Why would anyone want to see animals going at it???
JL> I believe he meant animals AND people...
LC> Why would anyone want to see animals AND people going at it???
LC> Louis
I would love to see animals and people going at it!!! Some
people enjoy seeing things that are different and extraordinary.
I never saw the original message...How can I get that CD?
... ARRRRRGGGHHH!!!! ... Tension breaker, had to be done.
--- GEcho 1.00+
* Origin: *The BillBoard BBS*Newmarket ON Canada*(416)898-2443* (1:250/932.0)
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From: MARIO DI MAMBRO Number: 282
To: ALL Date: 08/09/93 12:14a
Subj: Chess Meister 5Billion and 1 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I saw a chess game that I thought was awesome. Chess Meister 5 billion & 1.
I loved Battle chess (in it's time) and I can't wait to get my hands on
this chess simulator. I was hoping I could get a version on CD ('cause it
take 27 megs on the HD). If there an enhanced version (although the graphics
couldn't be much better) that would be great. I hope someone out there has
it.
... My other computer is a 486.
--- GEcho 1.00+
* Origin: *The BillBoard BBS*Newmarket ON Canada*(416)898-2443* (1:250/932.0)
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From: LEON KIRILIUK Number: 283
To: ALL Date: 08/09/93 4:24p
Subj: Starting new... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi, I would like to start a multi-media system on my computer which
would include a cd-rom and a good sound card...
I currently have a 486dx 33 with 8 megs ram and all the good computer
parts and a thunder board...
could anybody tell me what would be a good deal in creating a new system
with multimedia (another words what should i buy to upgrade my system to great
powers...) and i'm looking for a great price to value ratio so like i wont pay
1500$ and get the best .... i want something around 750$ or better and get a
lot of cd's with it as well...
thanx...
LK>
--- GEcho 1.01+
* Origin: TIBM Wizard. Echomail Hub USRHST(416)7438270 (1:250/401)
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From: DON RIEB Number: 284
To: JOE WALSH Date: 08/06/93 3:43a
Subj: Re: W.O.R.M. DRIVES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JW> I am looking for a used or new W.O.R.M. drive (write once read many drive),
MAXTOR 800MB OPTICAL WORM DRIVE: $323 Factory refurbished internal full
hight drive. Requires Corel driver software or the Ten-X OC-100 caching
controller, brand new: $234 This controller connects between the SCSI host
adapter and a WORM drive, providing cache and driverless operation. An LCD
display indicates status and disk space, and push button control panel sets
ID. Lists for $795. Brand new Maxtor 800MB WORM cartriges are $119.
SaveWare: 708-657-1160
** Don Rieb **
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From: DON RIEB Number: 285
To: JAMES FRAZEE Date: 08/06/93 4:35a
Subj: Re: MPC Atlas Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JF> Cd. His Name is Maurice Sherlock. Could you please check if you guy
JF> got the order and send off the Cd yet?
I just got the order today, he had the order form dated 7/30/93 and I see
from the post mark that it went out of Everett WA on August 2nd witch is
a monday so it must have been delayed for the weekend. I will ship it
in the early morning Priority Air Mail, it takes from 2 days mostly to
3 working days. He should get it Monday or Tusday.
JF> A friend of mine ordered the Digitial Dreams Adult Cd which is
JF> supposely BBS Ready and he told me he sent a money order to pay for
It works with many BBS's as it has FILES.BBS and SFFILES.BBS in each
subdirectory and then it has a FILELIST subdirectory with inbeded sub's that
have lists for PCBOARD, QBBS-RA, SPITFIRE, and WILDCAT.
** Don Rieb **
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From: LUCIANO MUNHOZ Number: 286
To: ALL Date: 08/06/93 3:18p
Subj: BEST CD-ROM? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
What's the best CR-ROM driver?
I want to know the fastest one and the cheapiest.
[]s
Regards,
Luciano Munhoz
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From: FERNANDO GUIMARAES Number: 287
To: DARRELL CRONE Date: 08/03/93 2:32p
Subj: test Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* Em mensagem destinada a All, Darrell Crone escreveu :
>this is a test if you recieve this please send me a reply...
>Thanks
>Darrell
>--- WM v3.01/93-0696
> * Origin: (1:396/90.0)
Hi Darrel,
Your message is arrived in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.
Sorry by my poor english... :-)
Bear Hug,
Your Friend,
Fernando Guimaraes
Sysop of Star Lights BBS
4:802/23
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From: JAMES ZMIJEWSKI Number: 288
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/08/93 10:57p
Subj: Cd's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I ordered cd's on monday got them on thursday not bad speed. Do you
know of any cd' with avi files on them, so far I found only one called clasic
clips but it's mostly old black and white images I'm looking for some thing a
little more modern
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From: WALLY GARDINER Number: 289
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/08/93 9:11p
Subj: Catalogue/price list Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Could you send me one please:
Wally Gardiner
390 Ellis Cres
High River Ab
Canada T1v 1j1
Tnxs
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* Origin: Student Exchange, Calgary, CANADA 403-283-5261 HST-DS (1:134/49)
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 290
To: JANUSZ SUROWKA Date: 08/08/93 8:08a
Subj: CDROM forsale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JS>do you have a bare Creative labs CD-ROM drive to hook up to
JS>a SB 16 ASP or mabye a Panasonic(Bare) model CR521, CR523?
JS>would you trade?
I do not trade and for SB, you can hook with 522 or new model 562
CD-ROM Panasonic 522B for SB Pro 380ms w/caddy.................$195.
CD-ROM Panasonic 562B 320ms w/contlr caddyless 300k/s 64kcache.$279.
Magnetic Shieded Multimedia Stereo Speaker system $15
MIDI cable for any sound card with Joystick port...............$19.
Price does not included shipping.
Call 310-602-2076 8AM-12PM, 6PM-9PM PST or mail order payable to: TRUC
16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723. Accept money order, COD $5extra
* OLX 2.1 TD * voice 310-602-2076.8am-12pm,6pm-9pm PST. Fax 310-402-7240
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From: ED YEE Number: 291
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/09/93 11:22p
Subj: Re: PAS16 OR SBPRO16ASP? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE> True.... I like both cards.... I'd have stayed
RE> with the PAS line if they
RE> did a Panasonic AT Bus version, but they didn't,
RE> so I HAD to buy an SB....
RE>
EY> If you would like to continue this
EY> conversation, I suggest we move it
EY> into the International Sound Echo, as this
EY> does not concern CD-ROM's as
EY> much as it does sound cards.
RE>
RE> Well I'm looking at the cards in relation to what
RE> CD-ROM I can connect and
RE> how fast the interface is..... To my tin ears, sound is sound!
RE>
EY> In the mean time, lets figure out something
EY> else to argue about!!!
RE>
RE> Lets not argue... Intelligent discussion is far better!
Why did you send this message to me again, months after the first time I read
it ?
--- Maximus 2.01wb
* Origin: EXCESS BBS Calgary (403)285-7338 1.8gb (HST-DS 16.8K) (1:134/17)
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From: TIM MORAN Number: 292
To: DAVID CALVIN Date: 08/06/93 11:21a
Subj: Cd-rom help! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Glad to talk to someone that actually has the drive! I'll have a
-> 486dx2/66 by the time I get it, so power is no problem. Could you
-> answer one more question for me please? I hear some CD-ROMs (maybe
-> all) have some kinda plug into the sound card (not an SCSI, something
-> else). Does the Mitsumi? My ATI Stereo F/X (SB compatible) card has
-> no place to plug anything in. Thanks for the help!
Well it no problem for my little kicker... (have a small power supply..
<G>) Most CD-ROMS do hook up to the Sound Cards... and Yes it does...it works
quite well.... I believe that is just access it directly some how....I donno I
just but it in there connected and put in the dirvers
<G>...But I also have a Sound blaster...that shouldn't make a differance tho...
So far is so good for me... when I first got it I bought KQ5 for CD and it
work quite well.... So maybe if they updated the drive a little it might even
be better... See Ya around!
--- DB 1.51/004201
* Origin: Eagles Nest Communications - Providence, RI USA (1:323/126)
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 293
To: SHAWN FULLER Date: 08/10/93 1:28a
Subj: Re: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Do any of those CD's handle more than 1 CD at a time?
>> Cheers ... Shawn
Which CD's are we looking at Shawn ?? As you can see by your short reply
I have no idea which systems, since they are not posted.
But, to make it short, the only multi-changers we advertise are the
Pioneer's and the 100 cd NSM systems. Both of these units can handle
multipul cd's.
Need further assistance, please feel free to call us at 216-225-3263
and we'll be happy to help.
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress makes it's motion picture debut as the "The Emailator"!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 294
To: PATRICK SEELY Date: 08/10/93 1:28a
Subj: Re: WANTED: CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Does any one have a CD entitled 'DARWIN' that they would like
>> to sell/trade (A CD with many of Darwin's books and notes).
>>
>> Email me,
>> Patrick
Yep, we have it in stock and it's priced at $59. Interested, give us a
call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy to help.
Boris Osadciw
... Who Killed Superman?
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From: ANDREW BELL Number: 295
To: ALL Date: 08/06/93 1:25p
Subj: Sega Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Sega CD counts as CD-ROM.. so.. here goes..
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SEGA CD - For Sale - Practically New! - The Future Of Gaming!
Sale Package Includes:
SEGA CD High Intensity CD-ROM System for Genesis (tm)
(Genisis not included)
Required Attachments
Wires (audio mixer and power plug)
Over $350 worth of software:
1. * Sherlock Holmes Interactive Mysteries
Three adventures on one disc, great FMV with real actors,
Will stump you for hours.
2. * SEGA Classics Disc
Includes classic Sega games on one disc. Streets Of Rage,
Revenge Of Shinobi, Golden Axe, and Columns.
3. * Sol-Feace Shooter
Futuristic space shooter on CD, great graphics, tons of
action, and amazing soundtrack!
4. * Rock Paintings CD+G Disc
Music and Graphics on one CD
5. * Hot Hits CD
New music sampler Audio CD from SEGA
6. *** One EXTRA CD Game ***
_NOT_ Included With The Original System!
You choose your free game from 2 Great SCD Games
a) Cobra Command - Full Animated Helecopter Game
b) Wonder Dog - JVC's Mascott, Great Platform Game
Original Box
Original Documents
Works Perfectly!
* Selling For $300 Retail + $50 for the extra game *
* Selling slightly used for only $250, a savings of $100!!! *
* Seperately - Cobra Command or Wonderdog (E mail for prices)
"The Colors Of Modern Rock" An amazing Virtual VCR
Disc with 6 Music Videos (Not available in stores! $15
Please Contact (201)-934-8571 if interested...
Ask for Andrew.
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From: DAVID CALVIN Number: 296
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/09/93 12:12p
Subj: Cd-rom Help! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE>Component Level 1 Level 2
RE>
RE>CPU 386SX/16 486SX/25
RE>Memory 2Mb 4Mb
RE>HDD 60Mb 170Mb
RE>Sound Card 8 bit DAC/ADC 16 bit DAC/ADC
RE>CD-ROM 150Kbps @ <40% CPU 300Kbps @ <60% CPU
RE>Video 640x480x16 colours 640x480x65,536 colours
RE>
RE>There are a few additional provisos on the spex (CD-ROM XA/Photo CD
RE>for the
RE>L2 CD-ROM), but this gives the basic setup required....
Ah, thank you, I've been looking for those. With the exception of the
170mb hard drive and the 65,536 colors, I'm almost at level 2.
... Relativity all depends on how you look at it.
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From: ALASTAIR EDGINGTON Number: 297
To: ALL Date: 08/07/93 3:14p
Subj: WINDOWS NT and Soundblaster Pro CD-ROM drivers Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi All,
I'm in desperate need of a WINDOWS NT compatible SoundBlaster Pro CD-ROM
driver.
MSCDEX works fine, and is included with NT, but SBPCD.sys (or whateva it's
called) will not work, even when running a MS-DOS shell.
If anybody has a driver, or on any ideas of where to look for such a driver,
i'd love to hear from you.
Regards,
Alastair Edgington
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From: BOB KNOWLES Number: 298
To: PETER LANE-COLLETT Date: 08/09/93 6:52a
Subj: 7th Guest Fix Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Re the 7th guest
>>Is there something wrong with it<<
In my case the speech breaks up when there is a lot of activity on the screen.
I have now put in the fix, but I still have the problem. I am running a
Soundblaster Pro 2 and a NEC CDR 83 on a 486/25 PS/1.
Thank all others who have replied to my quest for the fix, I found it on Sydney
Information Exchange 557-3874 (02 of course for interstate uses or 61-2 for out
of country people as the prefix).
Bob.
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 299
To: ARNE ROHDE Date: 08/09/93 6:24p
Subj: Sony Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Arne!
On 08-01-93 Arne Rohde wrote to Rowan Evans...
AR> I know this is off-topic, but I couldn't resist. Anyway, the
AR> original posting should probably have been netmailed.
Is it off-topic to talk about the cost differential in purchasing a
CD-ROM in the US and importing it to Australia??
AR> RE> SP> HHmmm...Well what't the money exchange from US to
AR> RE> SP> Australian?
AR>
AR> RE> Currently about $US1 = $A0.67....
AR>
AR> Umm. Since when has the Aussie dollar been worth more than the US $?
AR> Presumably it should have been: $A1 = $US0.67
OK, blew it there....
AR> RE> OK, if I were to buy the slower drive I have the following
AR> equation :-
AR>
AR> RE> Panasonic CR521/3 $ 179.00
AR> RE> add 33% for exchange rate $ 54.00 (approximately!)
AR> According to my muddled old brain, 33% of $179 is very close to $60,
AR> not $54. Maybe these new computers work a bit differently?
OK, did this calc in bionic computer... obviously blew it again!
AR> RE> gives Aussie dollars $ 233.00
AR> RE> plus Airmail S&H $ 75.00 ($US50.00 * 1.33)
AR>
AR> Again, my brain wants to disagree with your results. In this case
AR> $75 is $50 * 1.5, not 1.33. $50 * 1.33 would be close to $67.
Did THIS calc using a calculator... and, according to your later comments,
you should complain about the 1.33, *NOT* the results of the calc...
AR> RE> plus customs duty $ 60.00 (20% duty CIF I
AR> believe!)
AR> RE> plus sales tax $ 54.00 (15% on
AR> mulitmedia gear)
AR>
AR> RE> Grand Total $ 422.00
AR>
AR> But apart from those differences, there is a more fundamental
AR> discrepancy. To get from $US to $A (assuming the given exchange rate)
AR> you have to multiply by 1.5, not by 1.33. So $US1 = $A1.50 (approx),
AR> not $A1.33. Your result should be more like the following:
AR>
AR> $US $A
AR> Drive 179 269
AR> Airmail 50 75 (well at least that was right :-)
AR> Duty 69
AR> Sales tax 62
AR> Grand Total 475
OK, math was *NEVER* my strong point, however it does clearly show that
the various CD-ROM distributors/resellers in Australia are making hay
while the buyers are stupid! And I saw a msg from another K1W1 in this
echo the other day trying to sell an SB CD 16 MM kit for $NZ2,000.00
you guys should be screaming too!
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 300
To: ANTONY WUTH Date: 08/09/93 6:28p
Subj: Wanted: Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Antony!
On 08-05-93 Antony Wuth wrote to Rowan Evans...
AW> 02 Aug 93 21:54, Rowan Evans wrote to Antony Wuth:
AW>
AW> RE> Go to Control Panel....
AW> RE> Select Drivers.....
AW> RE> Click on Add....
AW>
AW> Got to here. And it prompted for a disk, I tried every one
AW> I thought might have any drivers and did not find the CD
AW> Audio Driver.
OK, do you have Windows 3.1 and not 3.0, as 3.0 requires the multimedia
upgrade kit for the [MCI] CD Audio Driver...
AW> No Good. How does windoze know where the drivers are.
Windows looks in a file SETUP.INF... If your dealer setup your PC and
didn't supply diskettes for Windows, you *COULD* be stuffed (unless you
go and monster him!)... OTOH, Windows *COULD* have been setup from a 5.25"
diskette copy and transferred to your machine and you were supplied with
3.5" diskettes - the SETUP.INF files ARE different....
Let me know where we go from here...
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: KIM LEE Number: 301
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/09/93 11:10p
Subj: SB16 and CD-ROMs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message dated 08-07-93 17:50, Rowan Evans mumbled to Kim Lee
KL> RE> Look for a Panasonic CR562B or CR563 CD-ROM drive.
KL>
KL> Are you sure it comes with the ASP chip? The Edutainment pack
KL> $1099 (8 CDs) doesn't, but the Creative pack does (10 CDs). $1250
KL>
RE> Well, it had the yellow "now with ASP signal processing" sticker on
RE> the box.... And it was definitely an Edutainment kit...
Hmm... the only thing I saw was something about signal processing
software... and nothing about the chip itself. Spose I should have
had a look inside the box...
RE> BTW, if you are selling your CR562B, is it the Osbourne CR200 kit
RE> (drive, paddle card, cable & software) or just the bare drive?? And
The one that'll come with the CD16 kit. I'll be getting a SCSI-2
drive, most probably the Panasonic. I'll see what the SCSI-2 comes
with and sell whatever is duplicated. I might even keep the CR562
IDE... stay tuned. :-)
RE> how much?? (I'm after another!)...
I dunno I haven't even got the kit yet! What do you think is
reasonable? It'll be outta the box of course.
I think you can daisy chain these IDEs, right?
BTW: Reply via local Alphamed mail if you wish.
*kIM_/2 aMFU
NyteOwl@lsupoz.apana.org.au (Linux Support Oz)
... You're really hard up if you steal *this* tagline.
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From: TIM WENAS Number: 302
To: STEVEN GOH Date: 08/07/93 11:31p
Subj: Mo Disk Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi there steven: I believe the MO disk prices were 40$ for ONE 20 meg
removable, but I'm not sure...
-TiM-
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From: KATHRINE ONG Number: 303
To: STEPHEN RANSON Date: 08/07/93 8:21p
Subj: Cd-rom) Refer: NONE
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Both Sony and Phillips have recently released their multi-spin/300kbs drives in
both internal and external models. The sony model No is CDU 651
the internal drive price is around 700-800 depending on the supplier. Both
drives are SCSI II.
Hope this helps
regards Kathrine........
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From: SIMON FORSYTH Number: 304
To: STEVE ROY Date: 08/06/93 3:59p
Subj: Night owl 9 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SR>Gidday Simon!
SR>I have the same problem as you re: Night Owl 9 not being read.
SR>My drive is a 521 as far as I can tell. I could read the rom on
SR>a different drive at work. Do you have any more info on this
SR>problem?
SR>This happens on 2 different night owl 9's also, all my other roms
SR>read great, and I have a few of them!
SR>Cheers,
SR> Steve
SR>PS I used to live in Brisbane long time ago.
I have tested my CD drive in another machine that has a panasonic cd drive
hooked up to a sound blaster - just like mine except the disk works in his
drive and not in mine, his drive looks a little different but came with
identical manuals. My CD-ROM drive failed to read the niteowl 9 disk when
plugged into his machine. I assumed that it was the drive. I have taken it back
to Dataquip and they are now in the process of testing and replacing the drive
- I also gave them my niteowl 9 disk to test the new drive. It has been three
weeks! They promised a three day turn around. I call every second day or so but
it seems to get me nowhere. I'll let you know what they find - I may have to
upgrade to a newer CD.
Strange how my seven other CD-ROMs work just fine and niteowl 9 stuffs up, but
not on other people's CD-ROMs. Mind you - this CD-ROM was bought on a special
sale for $299 from Dataquip. I think I will get a refund and go elsewhere for
the replacement.
It's terrible. I'm a CD junkie and I can't get my fix!
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From: CARLOS BENITZ Number: 305
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 08/09/93 10:47p
Subj: Magnto-optical disc Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
HP>-> HP> Okay, The MO drive in the articles I have read, uses a laser to
HP>-> HP> soften the plastic so a magnetic beam can change the disk.
HP>->
HP>-> A magnetic beam? Are you sure?
HP>Yep, absolutely.
I'm surprised. I didn't know it was possible to make a magnetic
beam. How is it done?
* SLMR 2.1 * Too many laws, not enough freedom.
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From: TRAVIS CAMPBELL Number: 306
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 08/09/93 11:25p
Subj: Re: Cd-rom games Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Ashwin Bihari to All <=-
AB> Hey all, I just bought a CD-ROM and got a couple of shareware disks
AB> with it, I was looking for some games to buy for it, so if anyone has
AB> any good games for sale please leave me a message and also could
AB> someone suggest some good games to buy, I was told that 7th guest is
AB> good, is it really, what are the specs required to run that game...
AB> Please write back, C-ya
AB> Ashwin
AB> -!- WM v2.03/92-0157
AB> ! Origin: Hawk's Nest BBS Methuen, Ma. (508) 688-1979(1:324/123)
Hi Ashwin.. I am from Pueblo, Colorado.. The requirements for 7th Guest are
386/25 processor or better, 580 memory, and just about any cd-rom will do
but if it isn't multi spin then the game is REAL SLOW.. It is vga, and
Sound Board Compatible..
Some other good games on CD-ROM are "The Secret Of Monkey Island 1 & 2, I
that the Cd-rom Sierra games have been done real good on cd-rom, like Kings
Quest, and Space Quest, and soon Police Quest 4 (in september, if you like
sierra games), but one of the best games I have ever seen on cd-rom is
Wing Commander 2, with speech pack... " Hope this was some help....
Travis Campbell
... Not tonight, dear. I have a modem.
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From: TRAVIS CAMPBELL Number: 307
To: ERIC TREMBLAY Date: 08/09/93 11:33p
Subj: Re: Magnavox cdd 461 cd-r Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Eric Tremblay to All <=-
ET> Hiya Folks,
ET> I just bought a used CD-ROM machine.... see above subject line.
ET> MSCDEX.EXE is giving me a few problems. When I run the command line
ET> in my autoexec.bat file the computer sits there for about 4 minutes
ET> before accepting the command and moving on. AND then my drive doesn't
ET> work. I mean I can switch to the drive by typing E: but then I can't
ET> do a DIR on it or anything. I get a CDR101: Unable to Read Disk.
ET> So my question is I have MSCDEX.EXE v 2.20 is there a newer
ET> version that I can F'REQ or DL from anyone out there?
ET> TTYL
ET> Eric
ET> -!- FMail 0.94
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ET> (1:249/111)
I think that v 2.20 is the newest version.. If it isn't, I think the newest
one is in DOS 6.. Hope that helped...
Travis
Pueblo, Colorado
... Drop your carrier ... we have you surrounded!
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From: TRAVIS CAMPBELL Number: 308
To: ALL Date: 08/09/93 11:48p
Subj: Police Quest 4 (CD-ROM) Refer: NONE
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This message is for anyone who is interested in Sierra games.. Police Quest
4, is coming out sometime in September.. They will have the cd-rom version
and hardrive version out at about the same time.. From what I have read
it doesn't use Sonny Bonds anymore.. They have a new character, but I don't
remember his name.. Also sounds like the back grounds to all of the places
you can go are kinda like gifs.. Sounds like a REAL neat game.. I have the
first 3 versions of Police Quest.. I thought part 3 was the best, I liked
the idea of part 1, but I have the old version, and the graphics stink..
But part 4 is supposed to be the best game Sierra has ever came out with
(so far)
Travis
Pueblo, Colorado
... Docs? Why would I want to look at the Docs. Nurses are better :)
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From: JOHN STRUEMPH Number: 309
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 08/07/93 11:18p
Subj: TOSHIBA/ADAPTEC 1542B AND Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Brice Fleckenstein to Bill Gee <=-
>RC>IDE drives _CANNOT_ co-exist with another type of drive... UNLESS! You
>RC>have a special controller which allows them to co-exist.
>If this is true, I must be a miracle worker! I have an IDE and a SCSI hard
>drive running with no problems.
BF> Virtually ALL SCSI Host Adapters are designed to coexist - the Seagate
BF> ones and a few older 8-bit ones seem to be the ONLY exceptions.
BF> Just one reason SCSI Host Adapters tend to be more expensive....
>In truth, the answer is that IDE cannot co-exist with MFM or RLL drives.
BF> Certainly it can - if you use a Silicon Valley IDE adapter, or any one
BF> of several ST-506/412 controllers.
The 8 bit Silicon Valley card is Model #ADP-50 and the 16bit is ADP-60
... RAM DISK is NOT an installation procedure!
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From: JOHN BRANCIFORTE Number: 310
To: "ALL" Date: 08/09/93 5:02p
Subj: Cd-rom for sale! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
"Price Reduced!"
Grolier MM Encyc. Ver.5.01 - Motion video Clips, Photos, Sounds, & Maps etc.
Sacrifice, Last One Left - Asking $25.00 Includes Shp. (2 Day). If interested
call me bet 10am & 6pm Mon.-Sun. at (813) 848-2698. Thanks, John B. PS:
Price = "PREPAID ONLY"
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From: CRAIG DOBIE Number: 311
To: DAVE SUMMERS Date: 08/09/93 10:40p
Subj: Re: Telegard with CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Dave Summers to Eddie Thomson <=-
DS> Yeah, it wasn't as hard as I thought it was going to be. It came
DS> with a really elaborate door that made it a breeze to set up. I
DS> highly recommend the MEGA CD-ROM series to anyone considering running
DS> a CD-ROM board.
DS> The Handyman, Sysop
DS> Home Improvement BBS
Where can I get some info on that series??
Craig Dobie
Monty's Place BBS
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 312
To: VICTOR HEALEY Date: 08/09/93 10:29p
Subj: Mistumi/Sb/Sbpro Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I sold my first Mitsumi looking for a better drive for $200 (I paid
-> $300 in Jan 1993]. The buyer who initally thought he got a great barg
-> at my expense showed me a week later that you could buy it for $195
-> locally. He's still happy though mildy annoyed [I spend considerable
-> time helping him]. I went out an bought another Mitsumi for $189 at t
-> end of June after trying other drives for several weeks as they just
-> can not be beat for value at the current time. Today one may notice
-> that Mitsumi's are $185 in the Atlanta area. Computer dealers must be
-> like grocery stores and turn over their inventory every few days in
-> order to make money on such rapidly falling prices. What do you think
-> What has happended to those that bought a stock of Apple computers
-> recently? Price cut 4 times in last mont or two. Are they price
-> protected by the manufacture or do they eat it?
That's exactly what I was trying to say... The Mitsumi is just a darn
good drive! It is almost impossible to keep ANY inventory with the
prices goin nuts..
A year ago I got an AM386 SX/25 motherboard for $200, the same one now
is $80 last I checked...
You have to be able to manufacture cheap to stay competitive, or you go
under just like that! It's been great chatting, hope to do it again
soon!
Henry
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 313
To: JEFF PATTEN Date: 08/09/93 10:32p
Subj: New Mpc Specs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Computer technology moves much too fast to *not* produce a spec t
-> too demanding when it is first published. By the time there is a sig
-> amount of software written to the spec, the requirements will be in l
-> a typical machine. If you write the spec to accommodate today's main
-> hardware, the spec is inadequate by the time software shows up.
True enough. Look at software in general now.. Just now most gemes
REQUIRE 386 SX. Some even support 486 SX (oooohhhhh!) Right now there is
the Pentium chip and the software is just getting to the 486.
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From: PADDY DRURY Number: 314
To: GREG CHAPMAN Date: 08/05/93 2:30p
Subj: Re: Cover CD 'PC MAG' Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GC> The UK August edition of PC MAGAZINE, carries a CD on the cover. It
GC> claims to contain a large number of the excellent utilities
GC> commissioned by the magazine, amongst other things.
GC> While I have got almost of this material, and use a good deal of it
GC> regularly, I have not got, and am anxious to obtain, the source code
GC> for these utilities.
GC> Does the CD contain the source code? Should I buy a copy?
buy yes, source NO, at least not that I found.
I did have a bit of trouble with it though.
There is a bit where you fill in a sales order form to purchase (if you
wish ) the full blown packages. As I have just got a cdrom this week, I used
this cd as a test bed for drive and sound card. No Prob's , so far so good.
Then I tidied up my dir layout 'DEL'ed a load of files and directories and
started again. But the install routine wanted to edit the order form.
Minor problem, the file and dir'y have been trashed. I have looked in
auto, config, ini, hidden and such like but no luck, it KNOWS that I
have installed in the past , HOW beats the hell out of me.
So no install of demos ect. second time around ????
... wat the hex a decimal anyway
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From: JONATHAN WARNER Number: 315
To: ALL Date: 08/04/93 6:22a
Subj: Night Owl 9 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am having problems with Night Owl 9. The whole CD does not seem to read
correctly on my drive, yet every other CD reads correctly. About half the
files are OK but some directories don't read at all or comes up with rubbish
and causes a drive read error. There does not seem to be a pattern with the
errors either. The CD was purchased mail order from the US, but I hear that
some UK BBS are running fine with NO9. Is there a patch or something that I
require? Can anybody help with this please?
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From: DARRELL CRONE Number: 316
To: FERNANDO GUIMARAES Date: 08/10/93 5:20p
Subj: test Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Hi Darrel,
->
-> Your message is arrived in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.
->
-> Sorry by my poor english... :-)
->
-> Bear Hug,
-> Your Friend,
-> Fernando Guimaraes
-> Sysop of Star Lights BBS
-> 4:802/23
Fernando,
Muchas Gracias, for the answer.. Its Sysops like you who make this all
worth while...
TTYL
Darrell
P.s. so how is Rio???
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From: ERIC LOTT Number: 317
To: ALL Date: 08/09/93 11:10p
Subj: Cd-Rom Help Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I really need some advice and help concerning CD-ROM. Right now I have a
386/DX40 with 4 megs RAM, a 330 meg HD, and a SB Pro. I'm trying to decide if
I should upgrade to a 486 (33 or 66), or get into CD-ROM. People (who don't
know alot) have told me that the SB will only work with the Creative Lab's
drive (Panasonic), is this true? Basically, I'd like to know what some of you
would do, upgrade the CPU, or go for the drive, keeping in mind that I am an
avid game player.
If I decided upon a CD, what is my best course of action. I have heard
that the SB can be used without any problem by using an adapter, or changing
the interface between the card and drive. I've also heard that a new, faster
drive will be released by Creative Labs (lower than 390 ms). I don;t want to
buy a slow, or below average drive, and so, would appreciate if anyone could
tell me what I should be looking for. I might be interested in a package
deal, although I am happy with my soundcard, and don't really want some of
the discs that come with them.
Sorry this is all so jumbled together. I'd like to get into CDs but am
really confused as to what to do and how to do it.
Thanks in advance,
Eric Lott
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From: DAVID BERNARD Number: 318
To: BRUCE BOWMAN Date: 08/10/93 5:38p
Subj: CD-ROMs and DESQviewi Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
|BB>Thank you very much -- this is probably the problem, although it will al|
|bomb even if I'm not using the modem. Go figure. Anyway, although I know |
|this wasn't addressed to me, it really does give me a |
|starting point! I'll let you know how it works. |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
In DV the CD-ROM crashed the system even if I was not using the modem, but it
had been OK in DOS.
|BB>I also have one of these DAK CD-ROMs, and am experiencing the same probl|
|The installation guide was of little help; they just said to run the instal|
|program and it set up my CD-ROM as drive >S<! I do have 6 drives on my syst|
|but S? |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
It can be changed and if you have less actual drives it will save some memory
to do it with less in last drive statement.
The MTMCDD.SYS in Config.SYS:
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\MTMCDD.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:300 /M:16 /I:5 /T:S
^ ^ ^
Buffer IRQ Drv
|BB>Not knowing any of the MSCDEX command switches at the time, I was at a l|
|for a couple of weeks until someone more "in the know" told |
|me what all the MSCDEX switches meant. |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
I belive if you just use MSCDEX without anything else from the prompt and it
will give you information about it. Ltr...David
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From: MAHMUT KURSUN Number: 319
To: ALL Date: 08/09/93 10:34a
Subj: GIGAGAMES Refer: NONE
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Gigagames CDROM 39.95 US$
it's available now. 400+ MB DOS/Windows Games
Kursun CDROM Versand +s/h and Tax within European Community
Karl-Marx-Ring 148 Pay with VISA Creditcard or COD within Europe
81737 Munich - GERMANY
tel: ++49-89-6378421
fax: ++49-89-6378429
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From: JURRIE HOBERS Number: 320
To: RICHARD NIXON Date: 08/07/93 12:03p
Subj: Re: REWARD!!! Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Richard Nixon to Jurrie Hobers <=-
JH> I know a beginning dealer who is interested!
JH> Address: Future Media
JH> P/a Calthornerbrink 43
JH> 7812 HS Emmen
JH> The Netherlands, Europe
RN> Jurrie, correct me if I am wrong, but isn't that YOUR address?
Hi Richard!
Yes, you're quite alright with that :-)
I think I can explain. We have just begun with a new organisation, and
we want to distribute the cd's in The Netherlands. At the moment we are
still looking for distributors from all over the world who are willing
to deal with us.
But now we have changed the name into: Diamond Soft.
Withing a few weeks we will get our own fax/telephone line, so at this time
you can reach us by SNail-mail (look up for the right address) or by the NET,
but that is not sure for now, because we do not use this medium as frequent
as we want to.......(busy with other things now)
Well, if you are still interested (we hope so...) we would like to hear
from you!
Greetinx,
Jurrie Hobers
... ...1993...the year of the CD!!!..........
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From: PAUL WHITE Number: 321
To: RON WATKINS Date: 07/12/93 7:35a
Subj: Re: CD SPEEDWAY Refer: NONE
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> No, I think you have no idea of how RAM works. Try to buy some ZERO
> ms RAM!!!
In a message to Pat Nefos written on Friday, July 9, 1993 at 0:00:00, Ron
Watkins writes:
RW> Ram is measured in NANO-seconds; disks are measured in
RW> MILLI-seconds. Nano-seconds are, I believe, millionths; milli-seconds
RW> are thousanths.
RW> 70ns ram is .07 ms.... effectively zero, for all intents and
RW> purposes.
1 millisecond = 1 second / 1000
1 microsecond = 1 second / 1,000,000
1 nanosecond = 1 second / 1,000,000,000
Pretty quick, eh? Actually the transfer rate of data from a CD-ROM drive is
limited by the bus bandwidth of the interface between the drive and the
computer. Transferring a 2048 byte sector can take anywhere between 500 us
(microseconds) and 10 milliseconds when a cache hit occurs. Add the disk
access time (on the order of tens or hundreds of milliseconds) to that if the
drive has to seek the sector first.
--- Tabby 3.0
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From: HERRY HERMAWAN Number: 322
To: CHRIS CHAN Date: 07/13/93 10:19a
Subj: OS/2 MITSUMI DRIVER? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
You are from out of USA aren't you?
Well, I guess I can't help you. I got the beta OS/2-Mitsumi
driver from my local BBS, probably you can find it there
also.
Maybe you can be patient and I will send you the driver
free of charge to your place.
I got my Mitsumi (feb-93) work under OS/2 2.1
you can even install from the CD. copy the lu005s.add
to the disk 1 of OS/2 (not the installation disk)
everything is in the readme file if you want to know more.
good luck,
I'll be around if you need help
Herry
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From: Number: 323
To: Date: 07/13/93 7:40p
Subj: Refer: NONE
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From: STEVE PESANT Number: 324
To: CAM LERCH Date: 07/13/93 9:40a
Subj: Re: OLD 600MS CD-ROM DRIVES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CL> Does anybody have some old 600ms drives? Maybe older?? I am
CL> looking for the cheapest you can give me.. maybe $175.00
CL> Canadian (With controler card!!) or without but I need them
CL> soon.. I would like a pretty cheap one but I am reasonable.. So
CL> if you got those old drives (Internal or external) just drop me
CL> a note please!!!! soon!!! Thanks for your time!
CL> Ca/\/\
Hey there Cam, how's it going over there in Parksville? Anyways, saw
your message here and thought I'd help... I don't sell CD-ROMS or anything in
the like...But there's is a person that I do know of:
Write a message to Ismail Arslangiray at Group Ware in Tacoma Wa.
He was selling those old Mitsumi drives for under $100 U.S. Try him first..His
prices seem VERY VERY reasonable...
Hope this helps. -=Cheers=-
Steve.
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 325
To: ALL Date: 07/13/93 12:48a
Subj: CHESTNUT CD'S ONLY $10! Refer: NONE
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$ALE $ALE $ALE $ALE $ALE $ALE $ALE $ALE $ALE $ALE $ALE $ALE $ALE $ALE
The following Chestnut CD's are all $10!! (limited time offer) . . .
Clipart Goliath * Dictionaries & Language * Too Many Typefonts * Windoware
Bibles & Religion * Deathstar Arcade Battles * Shareware Overload
Ham Radio 3.0 * Technotools * Sound Sensations * Colossal Cookbook
Our Solar System * Complete Bookshop...................ALL ONLY $10.00 ea.
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: DOUG CHARMAN Number: 326
To: STEVE LIN Date: 07/13/93 7:53a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM BENCHMARKING Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SL> If you have one, please let me know so I can F'req
SL> it (unless you're kind enough to File attach it to
SL> me).
How do you "file attach" something? Please Netmail me at 134/49. Thanks.
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From: ED YEE Number: 327
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 07/13/93 1:13p
Subj: Re: PAS16 OR SBPRO16ASP? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE> True.... I like both cards.... I'd have stayed
RE> with the PAS line if they
RE> did a Panasonic AT Bus version, but they didn't,
RE> so I HAD to buy an SB....
True. What going to happen is the samething that happened with 9600 modems a
while back. Everybody had their own standard for their modems, thus creating
mass confusion, and errors during transmission and handshaking etc. Later the
CCITT (Consultive Committee for International Telegraphy and Telephony) got
modem manufacturers to use the v32 standard. Thus any v32 modem could talk to
another v32 modem without difficulty, even if was made by another company. The
same thing will probably happen to the CD-ROM. All CD-ROMs and adapters will
be universal and be able to communicate without problems with a host
controller, even if it was made by a different maufacturer.
EY> If you would like to continue this
EY> conversation, I suggest we move it
EY> into the International Sound Echo, as this
EY> does not concern CD-ROM's as
EY> much as it does sound cards.
RE>
RE> Well I'm looking at the cards in relation to what
RE> CD-ROM I can connect and
RE> how fast the interface is..... To my tin ears, sound is sound!
Sure I guess that's alright then.
EY> In the mean time, lets figure out something
EY> else to argue about!!!
RE>
RE> Lets not argue... Intelligent discussion is far better!
I meant that sarcastically, sorry if it came out wrong. Anyway, I agree
Intelligen discussion IS far better!
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From: DOUGLAS YOUNKER Number: 328
To: DONALD YOUNKER Date: 07/12/93 12:07p
Subj: MUGU LAGOON BBS IS UP (ALMOST) Refer: NONE
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Don, My BBS is now UP! I have Wildcat! 3.6S running. It took Starware awhile
to send me the software but at $85.00 for a REGISTERED version that ain't bad.
Should be going public any day now.
--- Echodor 3.11
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From: JIM HILGEFORD Number: 329
To: GEOFF RISPIN Date: 07/12/93 7:36p
Subj: Re: SBPRO DRIVER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On (09 Jul 93) Geoff Rispin wrote to Stephen Hamshaw...
GR> DD>I think the file you're looking for is SBPCD.SYS which is available
GR> from
GR> DD>the Creative Labs BBS. I don't have the number for that BBS handy
GR> at
GR> DD>the moment, but I'll try to find it.
GR>
GR> The number for the Creative Labs BBS is 1(408) 428-6660.
GR> Have fun..
GR>
July 12, 93
The newest is a File SBCD2.Add. Also needed is OS2CDR.
This is smoother and when installing read Doc close.
Worked on my system and a friends.
You can remove all other Add files in os/2.
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 330
To: RICHARD CARTER Date: 07/13/93 7:54p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM'S AVAILABLE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RC> Walnut Creek CD-ROM's now available from ComputerHelp in Bloomington,
RC> MN. Great Prices! Call: (612) 890-4750; or write to P.O. Box
RC> 385041, Bloomington, MN 55438-0041. Worth the Call!!!
What's the chance of getting a catalog from ya?..m2
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 331
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 07/13/93 7:57p
Subj: Re: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BO> *************** C D - R O M D R I V E P R I C E S ***************
BO> Pioneer DMR604X Bare -$1199. Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1.
BO> $50. ChestNuts CD's ALL $14.00ec Information on the above or 400 + CD
BO> titles
Any Mac compatable Encyclopedia ROMs? If so, what's your asking price?
Boris do you by chance provide acatlog?..m2
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 332
To: VINCE SORENSEN Date: 07/13/93 8:00p
Subj: CATALOG REQUEST Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Vince do you have a catalog available yet?
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 333
To: ANDREA HEARN Date: 07/13/93 8:01p
Subj: Re: CATALOG REQUEST Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Andrea would you pls add me to your catalog mailing list?
9300 Hamilton Drive
Fairfax, VA 22031
Tks...m2
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From: DEBBIE MARANTZ Number: 334
To: MATCH POINT Date: 07/13/93 2:07a
Subj: Re: BEGINING... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Creative Labs will release the Panasonic 56x series CD Rom sometime in August
and the price is supposed to be about $399.xx US. The CD Rom is CD Photo ready
but when asked they stated that it would not support the XA standard.
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From: ED BAILEY Number: 335
To: ROY COCHRUN Date: 07/12/93 8:21a
Subj: Re: MITSUMI Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 07-10-93 Roy Cochrun wrote to Richard Cavin...
RC> Richard, as you and I have similar problems, from what I read of your
RC> original problem, moving the monitor will no help. If my monitor got
RC> any further away, I wouldn't be able to see it. That has nothing to
RC> do
RC> with the problem. I believe strongly it is either the Mitsumi driver
RC> is incompatible or the AMI BIOS needs something reset. What brand cpu
RC> are you using? Mine is the Cyrix Cx486DLC, which I believe is part
RC> of the problem with the AMI BIOS
RC> ...
To both of you - I also have this weird problem with my monitor, and
my system is a 386DX DTK computer. the monitor is an AAMAZING SVGA
non-interlaced monitor. I've installed the CD and guts from the computer
into a mini-tower case. As soon as I move the computer and monitor to
another location - side by side - no monitor problem, this meant I
had to plug them into another set of plugs, on the same line.
On my other computer a 386 AMI bios mini-tower and Mitsumi CD,
even with the cover off and side by side - no problem.
I saw somewhere were the solution maybe to plug one of the units into
a different electrical circuit ot plug. On my problem computer this
isn't so easy, but I'm going to give that a try.
Just to let you know that you weren't alone out there.
Ed
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From: MARK ABBACCHI Number: 336
To: ALL Date: 07/12/93 5:41p
Subj: SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3.0! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
The MARKetplace!
P.O. Box 10925 St. Louis, MO 63135 1-800-289-1ROM FAX: (314) 521-7453
$35.00 International 314-521-4862 $35.00
************* So Much Shareware 3.0 IN STOCK AND SHIPPING *************
Don't be the last on your block to get So Much Shareware 3.0! If you
snooze you lose in the "who's got the newest shareware on their BBS"
business nowadays... so call The MARKetplace now and reserve your copy...
You'll have your copy of the MOST popular shareware disk in the
world before ANYONE in your area!
If you don't buy from The MARKetplace... you'll be waiting tooooooo
long to get your SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3.0!
*********************************************************************
VISA 1 - 8 0 0 - 2 8 9 - 1 R O M MASTERCARD
---- 100s of Titles Available ----
* WCE 1.02/2072 * ************ ßeta testers are CRAZY! ************
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From: ROGER SMITH Number: 337
To: ROY COCHRUN Date: 07/12/93 9:11a
Subj: Re: CD-MUSIC SCANNER/DATAB Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
You>> add the name manually
RC> ...
RC> Sorry, but I don't think that music CDs have the names digitized
RC> anywhere. You are stuck typing them in yourself. Seems like it would
RC> be a good idea for manufacturers to do that in the future, though, for
RC> several reasons, including yours. -- regards, Roy Cochrun
It's pretty suprising that audio CDs don't contain a digitized name of the
album (at least). It would be nice to pop a CD in the player and have the name
of the Artist, Album, and Current Track displayed.
BTW, Sony's MD (mini-disc) format does include and display this information.
-- Roger
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From: ROGER SMITH Number: 338
To: DOUG CHARMAN Date: 07/12/93 9:16a
Subj: Re: KODAK PHOTO-CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DM>> Ahh, thanks for the info. One further question: Are
DM>> you referring to corel 3.0 or 4.0? I work regularly
DC> Just thought I'd jump in here. I just picked up Corel 4.0 about a
DC> month ago and it does have Kodak Photo CD import filter. I don't think
DC> 3.0 did though.
Corel Draw 3.0 does load Photo CD images through the Corel Mosaic program.
-- Roger
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From: DOUG TAXIS Number: 339
To: ALL Date: 07/12/93 9:16p
Subj: Re: CD ROM Refer: NONE
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I was just wondering I am going to buy a new CD ROM I was going to
get the Toshiba xm-3401b, but they tell it will work with my Sound
Blaster Pro, Other people I talk to that sells the same Toshiba model
says my Sound Blaster Pro will not work with the Toshiba, Was told I
need a scuzzy card for it to work. I talk to others who said no matter
what I do my SBP will not work with the CDROM does anybody out there
know for sure if it will work or will I have to by a new Sound Card?
Thanks, Doug
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From: SEAN EAGAN Number: 340
To: ALL Date: 07/14/93 1:27a
Subj: WANTED! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* Original Area: FOR-SALE
* Original To : All (1:157/619)
WANTED!
Your DEAD CD-ROM Drives! Sure the Old Ones!
I want them! They are just sitting around gathering dust.
Looking For Sony, Toshiba and NEC!
I WANT THEM! Sell them to me!
Call me and we'll discuss a fair price or Reply here!
Might as well make some money on them!
Sean Eagan
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From: LARRY RUPERT Number: 341
To: ALL Date: 07/12/93 11:52p
Subj: CMC COMPANY Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for the phone number for the Creative Multimedia Corporation. They
put out Sherlock Holmes, and Shakespeare books on disk. Looking for anything
else they might have or have had also. Thanks. Larry
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From: TONY STOTT Number: 342
To: CHANCE MCBAY Date: 07/13/93 5:48p
Subj: Re: M!FH)L Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 07-10-93, in a stunning display of mastery of the English language,
Chance Mcbay said to 9tfuuknrl,e]r.#ri+#vi7he:
CM>ghCpv_C o?Spn'!6jJ5vN#rQ4;rm[km[km[km[km[km[km['i\
CM>~?~?~?~?~?~?~?~?~/;v)y sfzyMz,YkCbuZVyN){EkcAg
CM> * Origin: ROBO-BOARD 1.08
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Hey Fella! Your Robot needs new batteries!! <g>
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From: STEPHEN RETZLAFF Number: 343
To: DAVE DUCHARME Date: 07/13/93 1:25a
Subj: SOUNDBLASTER (PANASONIC) CD-RO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Dave Ducharme to Stephen Hamshaw on 05 Jul 93 11:02:00 <=-
SH> 2nd, I'm using the interface card that came with the CD-ROM and pluging
SH> the auto cord into the SB card because I don't have the right driver
SH> with the SBPro software, ????????.sys dose anyone know what file I
SH> need? This is the one that go's in the config.sys file. I'm using the
SH> one that came with the CD-Drive now. If anyone knows what I'm talking
SH> about, please leave a note on this echo.
DD> I think the file you're looking for is SBPCD.SYS which is available
DD> from the Creative Labs BBS. I don't have the number for that BBS handy
DD> at the moment, but I'll try to find it.
G'day Dave,
They now have a new driver called SBCD.SYS that also runs the CDR-563B
drive. This also fixes problems with The Seventh Guest.
Bye For Now.
Regards
Stephen
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 344
To: DANNY TONG Date: 07/13/93 7:17p
Subj: Re: PAS16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Danny!
On 07-10-93 Danny Tong wrote to Rowan Evans...
DT> RE> I do like the PAS 16 SLCD that I have, but it can't connect to
DT> RE> the Panasonic CR562B CD-ROM I just bought, so I've had to
DT> RE> buy the SB 16 ASP...
DT>
DT> Are you sure the Panasonic CR-562B is standard SCSI? I
DT> have the CR-532 (SCSI-II) hooked up to my PAS16 and it
DT> works perfectly. The CR-522 is for the Sound Blaster
DT> Pro, ASP16, etc.
The CR562B is Panasonic's latest AT-bus CD-ROM drive.... It is *NOT* a
SCSI device.... There *IS* a SCSI version of this drive around according
to a spex sheet I saw, but it didn't mention the model #......
Cheers!
o
/U\
... OFFLINE 1.52
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 345
To: STEPHEN POON Date: 07/13/93 7:20p
Subj: Re: SONY Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Stephen!
On 07-11-93 Stephen Poon wrote to Rowan Evans...
SP> RE> Then there's the later kits with 350ms Panasonic
SP> RE> double speed CD-ROM -
SP> RE> costs a bit more, but worth it IMHO!
SP>
SP> 350ms is considered doublespeed? I thought it had to be under
SP> 300ms... Well I'll be getting a Mitsumi drive and PAS 16 separately
SP> because I personaly would not use those bundled software
SP> like the mayo clinic...The drive and Sound card will cost
SP> me like $350..
Well, I thought that double speed referred to the transfer rate (300Kbps)
as an NEC CDR-55 was advertised as a double speed drive and its 300Kbps and
400ms avg access!
Yeah, you guys get it cheap! I thought that $A819.00 for a Panasonic CR562B
and a SB 16 ASP was pretty good!
Cheers!
o
/U\
... OFFLINE 1.52
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From: GREG WILLIAMS Number: 346
To: ALL Date: 07/12/93 4:06p
Subj: MITSUMI DRIVES VS PANASONIC Refer: NONE
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Can anyone tell me if Mitsumi (sp?) CDR drives are PhotoCD compatible, and what
sort of seek/access time they have?
Also, how do these drives, which are IDE, compare to the SBPro Panasonic CDR
drives (which, BTW, are definitely Kodak PCD)?
Thanks,
Greg.
.
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From: JOSEPH THOMAS Number: 347
To: CAM LERCH Date: 07/14/93 7:20a
Subj: Re: OLD 600MS CD-ROM DRIVES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CL> Does anybody have some old 600ms drives? Maybe older?? I am
CL> looking for the cheapest you can give me.. maybe $175.00
Why,? throw in 10-20$$ more and get a new one with better
speed and performance. This is just one man's opinion. Tnx.
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From: KIMBLE RIGNEY Number: 348
To: PAUL ROLFE Date: 07/14/93 7:59a
Subj: Re: MPC ATLAS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
ER> -=> Quoting Paul Rolfe to All <=-
ER> PR> Looking for a good MPC based Atlas, anyone got any suggestions,
ER> PR> descriptions, and prices (either US$ or AU$)
ER>
ER>I strongly _disrecommend_ the Software Toolworks World Atlas, unless
ER>you plan to use it as a toy for kids: it plays national anthems,
ER>shows flags, and statistical data.
Agreed. A far better choice is DeLorme's Global Explorer, which has a
detailed, continuous (zoom in and out) map of the world. It can be
indexed/searched by all sorts of criteria (cities, features, landmarks,
rivers, mountains, etc.), and has street maps of approximately 100 cities.
Nothing to beat it so far. It sells in the U. S. for about $100 and is
the counterpart of the much renowned Street Atlas USA.
Global Explorer requires 386 or better with at least 4mb of RAM and 3mb of
HD space available. Software requirements are DOS 4.01 or later and
Windows 3.1. You should see it listed in this echo.
Cheers,
KR
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN Number: 349
To: CAM LERCH Date: 07/12/93 9:20p
Subj: Re: OLD 600MS CD-ROM DRIVES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* In a message originally to All, Cam Lerch said:
CL> Does anybody have some old 600ms drives? Maybe older?? I am
CL> looking for the cheapest you can give me.. maybe $175.00
CL> Canadian (With controler card!!) or without but I need them
CL> soon.. I would like a pretty cheap one but I am
CL> reasonable.. So
CL> if you got those old drives (Internal or external) just
CL> drop me
CL> a note please!!!! soon!!! Thanks for your time!
I've got a 600ms Mitsumi LU002 under a Tandy Label, with controller, software,
cable, etc. $110 plus shipping (about $20?). Been used one hour (just for
testing). Guaranteed. Voice (301)924-3594 Fax:(301)963-2708.
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From: DAVID BALNITES Number: 350
To: CORRY MACFARLANE Date: 07/13/93 11:52p
Subj: Re: POINEER CD CHANGER SYSTEM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> I'm looking for a Pioneer CD Changer. I've seen
> people talk about there on this Echo but I've not been
> able to find one mail order. Any help would be
> appreciated.
Corry, I was looking through an ad in CD-ROM World and found a place called
FSC FlexSys Corporation that sells the DRM-604X for $1795.00 and the DRM-600A
for $995.00. Their # is 1-800-533-7756.
Hope this helps...
David
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From: DAVID MCSPADDEN Number: 351
To: ALL Date: 07/14/93 4:46a
Subj: CD-WORLD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Howdy Everyone,
The new price list from CD-WORLD is ready for Freq from 1:3647/2 as
CD-WORLD.zip or download by calling my BBS at 803-481-7149. You can log
on as First name Guest, No Last name, PW Guest. I run at 14,400 so it
will only take a minute to download the file.
Full Descriptions included plus a code to let you know which CD's I
have files list avaiable for Download or Freq. Also many Romdoor premade
databases available.
To give you an idea of the Great prices. Nightowl 9 $34.00 and Pier 2
$39.00. CD-World will beat any advertised price!!!!!!!!!
Thanks
David McSpadden CD-WORLD "Home of Great Prices"
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From: STEPHEN HAMSHAW Number: 352
To: GEOFF RISPIN Date: 07/12/93 4:27p
Subj: Re: SBPRO DRIVER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thank you for the info. I have the BBS number and I will try to get the
SBPCD.SYS file. So thanks again.
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From: STEPHEN HAMSHAW Number: 353
To: DAVE DUCHARME Date: 07/12/93 4:30p
Subj: Re: SBPRO WITH PANASONIC (HE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thanks for the info. I'll give the BBS a call and see if I can get the file
SBPCD.SYS
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From: ROY COCHRUN Number: 354
To: MICHAEL MULCAHY Date: 07/14/93 6:23a
Subj: Re: ENCYCLOPEDIA CD'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
You> where does one look for the best competitive price
...
I have Grollier's, which I like. Compton's version from a year or so
ago now has dropped in price to around $80.00 (or less) at computer
shows, which is where I always buy. At the most recent show I went to
in Baltimore, one dealer said that Grollier's is for high school
students, whereas Compton's is for 7-8 grade students. I've not seen
Compton's so cannot really comment.
...
The benefit of CD-ROM over the hardcopy, other than the obvious one of
how much shelf space it takes up, is the capability to find entries
about topics the encyclopedia chose not to include in the alphabetic
entries. For example, as a WASP, I'm not too current on Black
history. I wanted to look up W.E.B. DuBois. I found him in two or
three articles immediately just by entering his last name at the prompt
for the term I wanted to search. "Poof," I was there in an instant. I
defy anyone to find something that fast in a multivolume encyclopedia.
..
Hope this helps. (I'll be away from today for two weeks, so won't see
any reply unless posted after 28 July). -- regards, Roy Cochrun
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From: ROY COCHRUN Number: 355
To: MICHAEL MULCAHY Date: 07/14/93 6:26a
Subj: Re: REFERENCE MATERIAL ON Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
A good source for all CD-ROM discs is the Bureau of Electronic
Publishing, Inc, 141 New Road, Parsippany, NJ 07054, 1-800-828-4766.
I buy their catalog because of the detailed descriptions it gives of
all discs. I have never ordered from them, however, because they
charge the "original" prices. It should give you names and details of
any tech discs available. -- regards, Roy Cochrun
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From: ROY COCHRUN Number: 356
To: CHUCK OWENS Date: 07/14/93 6:30a
Subj: Re: JANE'S ON CDROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
You can order Jane's pubs directly from them at: Jane's Information
Group, 1340 Braddoc Place, Suite 300, Department CD, Alexandria, VA
22314. (Fax number 703-836-1593). The demo disc I received lists the
titles of all their discs, but no prices. -- regards, Roy Cochrun
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 357
To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 07/13/93 4:47p
Subj: Re: CD INSTALS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>BF> Sounds like a limitation of the BBS software you are running.
>BF> With TBBS, all I have to do IF the disc has FILES.BBS on it
>BF> is to set up the menu with the appropriate entries pointing at
>BF> the FILES.BBS ON THE DISC ITSELF ^^^^^^^^
>
> So every time you get a new cd or change an old one you have to
> retype the paths to the files.bbs and write out the kind of files
> that are located in that area.... Don't you find that annoying
> and a waste of time?
NO. I would have to create those menu entries in ANY case - or add the
appropriate pointers to a .FAR listing.
> I did so I wrote utilities to do this for me.
A TRUELY lazy man!
8-)
> I included these utilities to automatically
> and instantly set it up for Sysops who were running Maximus,
> Spitfire, RA, Qbbs and PCBoard. If I can find the data
> structures for TBBS I can write a utility to set up cd's on it
> automatically.
I can feed you the information on .FAR and PDIRs - remind me once I get
moved, as I do NOT have access to the manuals right now 9they are packed up
already)....
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From: MICHAEL KONOR Number: 358
To: CAM LERCH Date: 07/14/93 6:10a
Subj: Re: OLD 600MS CD-ROM DRIVES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CL> Does anybody have some old 600ms drives? Maybe older?? I am
How about 300ms?
1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
240 VAC universal input. $215.00
2. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal. $190.00
Features: DIP switches for ID, Parity, and Arbitration, 50 pin
SCSI, 350ms/156k rates, external headphone/volume, Newest EPROM, Refurb.,
64k buffer. Still have several remaining.
205-837-5053
*FSED91j*
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From: NORM ROWE Number: 359
To: BOB HALL Date: 07/14/93 8:56p
Subj: Re: BIBLE CD Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
BH+Norm, on TBL it was not scanned. Back in '88 scanning wasn't so
+reliable, so many of the books were sent to Jamica to be typed in. Two
Well, on p. 24 of the User's Guide it says, "Typographical errors can
occur either because they were in the original printed work (common)
or as a result of the process by which the words on the pages were
converted to electronic form (uncommon)." I presumed the latter to
mean scanning.
BH+As the former VP of CDROM Technology for EEI, I have seen just
+almost every Bible on CDROM there is.... CD-WORD is good if you want to
+NT studies only (and don't mind running Windows 2.1 _unless_ they have
+updated it) Master Search is good, easy to use. FABS is good and
+simplistic in operation. However, for the price, TBL is unbeatable.
I'm not familiar with the others you've mentioned. I agree that the
price (and it's generally available now for less than what I paid for
mine) is definitely unbeatable. I'd like to know what they've done
with the new version to justify a $350 price tag, though. And you'd
think that those of us who bought the earlier version would get at
least a small break on an upgrade. They'll have to show me some
awfully powerful stuff to make me want to cough up that much for a new
disc!
BH+If you are "into" religious studies, you need the catalog from
+Hermanutika. They are in Seattle Washington. I do not have the number
If you come across their address sometime soon, how about posting it
for me (and anybody else who might be interested)? Sounds like a
source worth checking out.
Norm
* 1st 1.11 #445 * Eagles may fly but weasels aren't sucked into jets
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From: NORM ROWE Number: 360
To: BOB HALL Date: 07/14/93 9:00p
Subj: Re: BIBLE RESOURCES Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
BH+Sounds like you have spent many hours with TBL. When you first got it,
+did it about drive you nuts?
Yeah, I've spent quite a bit of time with that particular disc. But
no, it didn't drive me nuts -- I was already in that condition!!!
<grin> Actually, it was rather aggravating and still is at times.
I've learned a lot of its limitations and have had to break a lot of
my searches up into smaller pieces because for some reason it can't
find anything on the big initial search. Rather frustrating, but I
guess for $50 (what I paid for mine) you can't expect perfection.
Just having the sources and tools (as imperfect and clumsy as they
are) has made the investment very worthwhile for me.
Norm
* 1st 1.11 #445 * Scotty, beam me to the Bahamas.
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From: ELLEN COTTON Number: 361
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 07/13/93 10:09p
Subj: Re: CD-ROMS WANTED Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Boris, could you please send me your latest CDROM catalog?...I've been
monitoring the CDROM Echos for the last month and am getting a 486 w/CDROM
drive in the next few days. Thanks!
J. Ellen Cotton
1105 N.W.6th Place
Moore, OK 73160
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From: JOEL CHARLESWORTH Number: 362
To: ALL Date: 07/14/93 1:31a
Subj: SCSI CD-ROM INTERFACE PROBLEMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I recently purchased a new system that included a Sound Galaxy NX Pro sound
card, as well as the SCSI CD-ROM Interface extension that goes along with it. I
had a SCSI CD-ROM drive hooked up to it and it worked fine. That is until this
afternoon when I installed a new modem at COM 3, IRQ 3. That's when the problem
started. When ever I boot the computer it comes up with this:
**** RESET SCSI BUS ****
I don't know how to reset the SCSI Bus. I tried switching the modem COM port
but that didn't help. I re-installed all of the SCSI and Soundcard drivers but
that didn't work. The drive can't be used at all now. If anybody has had this
problem and/or knows how to fix it, could you leave me a message? Thanks.
Joel.
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 363
To: TOM MILLER Date: 07/14/93 6:40p
Subj: Re: ENCYCLOPEDIA CD'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Tks Tom for the info. It will most definitley aide in the decsion/purchase
process here.
I just ordered the Apple 300 CDROM drive (awaiting its arrival) and was
wondering if MAC's are compatable with windows/dos CD formats or are they all
compatable with one another.
Being new to the CD ROM industry, where is the best place to seek reasonable
prices and catalogs that are not ADULT oriented?
Tks again for taking the time and responding to my inquiry!!...m2
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From: JASON BURKHART Number: 364
To: WEE YUNG Date: 07/14/93 11:02p
Subj: Re: NEC CD ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does that Texel come complete???? If so consider it bought!!!
* SPITFIRE v3.3
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From: DON RIEB Number: 365
To: CHARLES STRUSZ Date: 07/13/93 12:22a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM NOT AVAILABLE ... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
The murchent pays for the sercharge acording on how much his bank charges and
how much he does in sales each year. I beleave it is elegal to charge the
customer a searcharge as they allready pay for the use of there card threw
there bank. If they can't wire your bank the funds or send you a
international monyorder it is easyest to use a VISA/MASTERCARD for the
transaction. Have you heard of any charge frauds for V/M card? Probly the
best thing to do if issuing a charge is to get a autorization on each order.
** Don Rieb **
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From: DON RIEB Number: 366
To: RICK SHOAF Date: 07/13/93 1:16a
Subj: CDROM DRIVE REPAIR Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I just took my 3500 in for repair and antoher Hitachi model to Computron.
The do CDROM repair and are very resonable in price. I don't know where you
live but I live in Glenview Ill and the store is in Skokie Ill but you could
call and see if they do it by mail too if you don't live neer. There address
is 7874 Lincolin Ave., Skokie, ILL. and there Voice phone is 708-982-5144.
There FAX number is 708-675-6286. They also do other computer repair work.
** Don Rieb **
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From: DON RIEB Number: 367
To: RUSS MICHEALSON Date: 07/13/93 1:55a
Subj: BARNY BEAR GOES TO SCHOOL Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I seen in the echo you are looking for Barny Bear goes to School CDROM.
I have a copy if you want it $32 plus $3.00 shipping. Call me at
708-657-1160 voice or fax with visa or mastercard or COD ($2.50 fee req.).
You can also call to get my home address if you want to mail in a check or
monyorder.
** Don **
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From: CARLOS BENITZ Number: 368
To: KEN MATTHEWS Date: 07/13/93 11:35p
Subj: Re: CD ROM HELP??? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
11 Jul 93 11:03, Bob Jackson wrote to Ken Matthews:
BJ> has water in it). *OR* you could get a CD "cleaning disk" - some have
BJ> said they're for sale at Radio Shack.
Yep. $15 around here.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 369
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 07/14/93 10:25p
Subj: Re: 4 CD SET OF 25,000 SH Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GP> What percentage of dupes are there between this set and the earlier
GP> Shareware Bonanza? Is it just Shareware Bonanza
GP> with another disc-worth
GP> of files added to the mix, or is it really new stuff? Does it have
GP> usable file descriptions etc.? Lots of files without descriptions?
I don't have specific details that your looking for. I heard it is similar in
construction to the previous one...aka missing file descriptions and multiple
year files.....send me your fax number and I'll fax you a new list...
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 370
To: ALL Date: 07/14/93 10:27p
Subj: STARTING WEEKLY SPECIALS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
*** PCJ Computing WEEKLY SPECIALS *** MUST BE ORDERED BY JULY 17 ***
*** Orders Only 800-547-7817 / Inquiries (24 Hours) 615-339-0235 ***
Family Doctor...................21.95 Time Almanac 1990........11.95
World Fact Book.................14.95 So Much Shareware........14.95
Grolier's Encyclopedia v5 (DOS).31.95 Game Pack 2 (STW)........16.95
Toolworks Reference Library.....15.95 Hot Pix v4...............19.95
Shareware Explosion (all 1991)..16.95 PC Sig v11...............21.95
After Dark trilogy (Rimfire)....34.95 Electronic Home Library..18.95
Corel v3.0 - 3 1-/2 Disc........61.95 Shareware Studio 2.......19.95
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From: DAVID MCSPADDEN Number: 371
To: PHIL TREVORROW Date: 07/14/93 11:49p
Subj: Re: SHAREWARE 1993 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Phil,
I have the files list for this and many other cd's available for
download from my BBS. To Bad you aren't useing Romdoor as I have a
premade database for ShareWare 93 and it... Call the BBS at 803-481-7149
and log on as Guest no last name. PW Guest.... Running at 14,400.
Be sure to download CDWORLD.zip while your at it... Great Prices!!
David McSpadden CD-WORLD "Home of Low Prices"
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From: DAVID MCSPADDEN Number: 372
To: MANUEL WENGER Date: 07/14/93 11:57p
Subj: Re: NIGHT OWL'S 9 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Is there somebody here that sells the Night Owl's 9 CD at a good pric
-> ships to Europe (or even better, IS in Europe)?
Hi Manuel,
I carry Nightowl 9 for $34.00 and ship airmail to Europe for $4.00.
Your total would be $39.00 shipped.... Terms are VISA Mastercard or send
a money order in US. Funds. Call me at 803-481-2276 or log on to my BBS
as Guest no last name PW Guest and leave me a message... BBS
#803-481-7149.. FIDO 1:3674/2 running at 14,400..
David McSpadden CD-WORLD "Home of Low Prices"
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From: SCOTT GOLBY Number: 373
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 07/12/93 2:10p
Subj: Re: CD ROM MASTERING Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi there,
SG> I am interested in your CD-ROM mastering.
SG> Do you take tapes
SG> written by an Exabyte 8200 or 8500?
RE>
RE> Have you tried DATA COMM in Melbourne?? They charge around $350.00 per
RE> disk to cut a "gold" CD-ROM.... I also have a flyer
RE> from a Sydney company
RE> at work for this sort of thing too.... Drop me a line if you would like
RE> me to post the names, addresses and phone #'s....
Yeah if you have their phone numbers handy that would be good.
'C' ya... Scott Golby
sgolby@st.nepean.uws.edu.au
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From: PETER DALE Number: 374
To: KEN TULLY Date: 07/13/93 10:05p
Subj: Re: REWARD!!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of 11 Jul 93 Ken Tully wrote to All:
KT> Ken Tully
KT> KL Systems
KT> Phone 203-387-3174
KT> Fax 203-387-3306
Hey!!... I need a CD-Rom.. You know the usual routine.. SCSI for the d*mn
Amiga, and yes, I'm still frugal (read that anyway you want). Let me know what
you can get and how much, and I'll look at my drivers and see which drives I
can use.
Peter Dale
p.s. Tried to netmail ya... will try again later on.
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From: UWE KEPPER Number: 375
To: ALL Date: 07/12/93 4:46p
Subj: S: ELEKTRONIK-CDS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm looking for some CDs with electronic-parts (how to connect,
technical data etc.) from different manufacturers ...
Who knows how to get them ?
Infos to:
Uwe Kepper (available as follows)
~~~~~~~~~~
Phone (Voice) : +49-202-716190 ───> Answering machine
(Fax) : +49-202-716190 ─┐ or perhaps me :-)
(Mailbox) : +49-202-716190 ─┴─> Now 24h online !
Parameter : 1200-19200 Baud, 8N1 (ZYX,V32b,V42b)
E-Mail : 2:243/7808@FidoNet.Eur
9:491/1030@VirNet
56:52/202@XNet
Postcards, Mail : Postfach 131530 , D-42042 Wuppertal
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From: SCOTT BAILEY Number: 376
To: ALL Date: 07/15/93 8:10a
Subj: Re: COREL ARTSHOW Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Corel World Contest Artshow 3 CD-ROM Disk
* Over 3,000 Corel Draw files
* Winners and Contestants entries
* Online MIDI music on disk
* Windows screen saver that displays .CDR images
$25/includes shipping
=====================
Send Netmail to Scott Bailey @ 1:390/14 or call 504-732-4800
WinQwk 2.0b#147
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From: JAMES HOGUE Number: 377
To: MATTHEW HORBUND Date: 07/15/93 5:23p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM SPEED Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> B)Buy a CD-ROM Cache. I've used Norton's SpeedCache Plus and it's
-> amazing! A
Matthew, which one of the Norton utility packages contains this
particular cache?
thanks,
James
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From: MICHAEL KONOR Number: 378
To: ALL Date: 07/15/93 10:50a
Subj: Re: TOSHIBA CDROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
240 VAC universal input. $215.00
2. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal. $190.00
Features: DIP switches for ID, Parity, and Arbitration, 50 pin SCSI,
300ms/156k rates, external headphone/volume, Newest EPROM, Refurb.,
64k buffer.
205-837-5053
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From: LAURENCE ALLEN Number: 379
To: CARLOS BENITZ Date: 07/14/93 10:55p
Subj: Re: ERROR LOADING OS/2 2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> But does OS/2 automatically know that it can boot from drive F:
> (or whatever your cdrom drive is)? Or does OS/2 determine that
> the cdrom drive is your first drive? I realise that under DOS
> MSCDEX is responsible for recognizing the cdrom, and that it is
> the last drive after all others, but I'm not sure that I
> understand how you could boot from a cdrom under any operating
> system unless that system defines the cdrom to be the first
> harddrive. If it does consider it the first harddrive, does it
> choke if it finds a non-bootable cdrom at (later) boot time?
>
OS/2 doesn't boot from the CD. It boots from the flopies, just like when you
can boot
up your machine with a dos system disk. The config.sys file on the flopies
tell the
system that the CD Rom drive is there. Then it loads the rest of the system
off of the CD
Rom instead of 15 flopies. This is much faster and much less tedious, since
you don't have
to be at the system to swap the flopies.
* KWQ/2 1.2 * "640K ought to be enough for anybody." - Bill Gates, 1981
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From: TANYA BROCK Number: 380
To: ALL Date: 07/14/93 4:48p
Subj: Re: NIGHT OWL 9 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone have a FreQable files list for night owl 9? Would like
something I could pick up at 14.4 or higher.
Thanks,
Tanya Brock
SysOp, Field of Dreams
... Shhhhh...Be vewy vewy quiet. I'm hunting Owls...
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
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From: DOUG CHARMAN Number: 381
To: BOB SMITH Date: 07/15/93 7:59a
Subj: Re: COREL 3.0 IN MONTREAL? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Just keep looking around. You could always drive up to Ottawa, I'm sure that
stores there are offering it at a good price. Since Corel 4.0 is relatively
new, there are still a lot of people willing to sell 3.0 at a good price.
Advertise that you are looking for it in this echo. Maybe mention the fact that
you're located in Canada, it's easier to buy here than across the border with
duty, customs, etc. Good luck and let me know if you're still having problems,
I know a few people here that are soon going to be upgrading. Please Netmail me
at 134/49.
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From: MATTHEW HORBUND Number: 382
To: STEPHEN POON Date: 07/14/93 7:04p
Subj: Re: MITSUMI'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Okay, I'll be ordering a Mitsumi 350ms drive in like 2 days but when i
> was looking through some ads for a low price, i found out there're two
> different Mitsumi's! Both 350ms, internal..But one has a slide top,
> which I assume is for a caddy. Both this one and the other one with
> opening front, are $185. Which one is better? And do you know if the
> one with the slide/flap comes with a caddy?
Sorta right stephen...the one with the sliding top is the one with the front
door! Neither use a caddy (their one in the same..the same drive!) What you
do is push the front door in, and then it slides out and you lift the top up!
There is no caddy involved...I've heard that caddyless drives are more reliable
than caddy drives...donno! I love my Mitsumi!
Matthew
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From: MATTHEW HORBUND Number: 383
To: JEREMY HORN Date: 07/14/93 7:05p
Subj: Re: HELP ME.....SEE D Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> The Mitsumi CRCM (or whatever their model is) is a
>> good, cheap drive! 350ms access 150KB transfer...I
>> like it, especially for $185!
> Where did you find a CD for $185, would you know how much an external
> version of your would cost?
Mitsumi doesn't make an external version! I went throught the Computer
Shopper. The average for the drive is 185-189! Anything over that (for the
Mitsumi) is a rip!
Matthew
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From: MATTHEW HORBUND Number: 384
To: SCOTT GOLBY Date: 07/14/93 7:10p
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> 2000 books (wow! :-) ) and the other being the Busty Babes GIF CD-ROM.
>> The rest of the disks I have all came with the drive or I
>> swapped/borrowed.
...
> OK. Its called Readers Library and its made by MicroMart (908)
> 821 6164. It has mostly older books on it. Shakespear, Twain, Poe,
> Bible, Dictionary, CIA World Facts book 1991, US Legal stuff, etc etc.
> Its about 330 Megs, including 70 Megs of the books in .ZIP
> files for a BBS. 155 ZIP archives, so I would guess there would be
> about 130 different authors reprisented.
Are the stories linked to pix or video, or are they just text?
> Tell us if you want the files list or something its not that
> long, 150K or so.
Yeah, please send it to me via either netmail or InterNet email
Thanks!
Matthew
n68bc@cunyvm.cuny.edu
> 'C' ya... Scott Golby
> sgolby@st.nepean.uws.edu.au
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From: STEPHEN GUPTON Number: 385
To: LOU NERVEGNA Date: 07/15/93 5:51p
Subj: Re: MAKE MONEY!! MUST READ!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a msg on <Jul1517:51, Lou Nervegna of 1:268/316 writes:
LN> HOW TO MAKE $50,000 with $5, a modem, 5 envelopes, 5 stamps.
LN> I'm Making a TON of money! This is great! Everyone MUST try!!!
This is what is refered to as a pyramid scam and is outright fraud.
Moderator: Hit the sucker!
<*=- Stephen -=*>
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From: JUSTIN VANABRAHAMS Number: 386
To: ALL Date: 07/14/93 11:32p
Subj: HITACHI CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Howdy . . . I'm hoping someone out here can help me out . . .
I have a Hitachi CD-ROM model CDR3500 which has ceased to work. I believe
that the main drive motor (the one that spins the CD) has died, but I'm not
sure. It could also be the circuitry that controls said motor.
Anyone have any thoughts on how I could prove the problem one way or another?
The drive motor will cost over $115, and I have no idea about the circuit
board.
Alternately, if anyone out there is interested in said CD-ROM, I'd sell it for
$50, which would still be less than a new CD-ROM, even after repairs. I
*would* prefer to fix it, though.
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From: CARLOS BENITZ Number: 387
To: JIM CUMMINGS Date: 07/15/93 11:17a
Subj: GOVT CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
09 Jul 93 22:00, Jim Cummings wrote to Carlos Benitz:
JC> This is NOT gospel, and I have *no* experience in such things, but my gut
JC> reaction is: Git while the gittin's good, or you're gonna get stuck with
JC> NO money coming when they go bankrupt. Give your notice ASAP, and use
JC> your remaining time as vacation (plus any comp time, floaters, etc.
you've
JC> accrued) to go jobhunting. Then if they can't pay for your accrued
JC> vacation, you've already used it, and you haven't delayed the hunt.
JC> + Origin: Catonsville Community College, Balto., MD (1:261/1081)
This is (some) of what FidoNet thinks you sent me. I was asking what you
thought of the US Laws cdrom you'd received.
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From: JERRY SMITH Number: 388
To: LOYD CRAFT Date: 07/15/93 3:56p
Subj: PUBLISHING YOURSELF... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Loyd--Mind sharing your source (and cost) for 'Publishing
yourself on CDROM'? Many thanks.
Jerry Smith 4341 U St.,Sacramento,CA 95817 (916)455-3275
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From: STEVE PESANT Number: 389
To: AL RAMIREZ Date: 07/15/93 6:39p
Subj: Re: DOS 6.0 BUGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey there Al, how's it going;;; So what's new in Fresno CA...Haven't been there
for about 7 years (he he he)
Anyways, just thanking you for othe DOS 6.0 update...I like to keep a
running total of what people like and don't like...Information overload is
always nice to have. 8-)
AR> I also use DoubelSpace with no problems. I have a
AR> 486/33 with 8megs ram and a mitsumi cd-rom and have
AR> zero probs with doubel space.
I have never tried to use doublespace---> I still feel it's a little risky
...but oh, well, that's my loss..
-=Cheers=-
Steve.
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 390
To: ROY COCHRUN Date: 07/15/93 6:21p
Subj: Re: REFERENCE MATERIAL ON Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RC> A good source for all CD-ROM discs is the Bureau of Electronic
RC> Publishing, Inc, 141 New Road, Parsippany, NJ 07054, 1-800-828-4766. I
RC> buy their catalog because of the detailed descriptions it gives of all
RC> discs.
I called them today and the catalog is in the mail. Thanks for the info Roy!
This will certainly get me pointed in the right direction. Have a good trip
will talk later...m2
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 391
To: CHRIS MOORE Date: 07/15/93 6:33p
Subj: Re: REFERENCE MATERIAL ON CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CM> You might try EBSCO Subscription Services' "CD-ROM HANDBOOK". EBSCO
CM> is a "jobber" - i.e. a distributor of various media, primarily to
CM> libraries. They have been distributing CD-ROMs for a number of years.
CM> The copy of the CD-ROM Handbook I have is summer 1992, and is a well
CM> indexed, 200 page catalogue.
Thanks Chris! I tried to call them and couldn't get through so I used the Fax
number you provided.
FYI, If you didn't note Roy Cochrun msg, he provided me with another
agency..Bureau of Electronic Publishing Inc, 141 New Road, Parsippany, NJ
07054. PH 1 800 828-4766. I called them for a catalog and it is the mail today.
As for the info you can provide, I would indeed be interested. I work at a
Research Lab and I am certain some of my colleagues would be interested.
My address is: 9300 hamilton Drive
Fairfax, VA 22031
Thanks fof the Help Chris, looking forward to exchanging more info in the
future...m2
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 392
To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 07/15/93 9:30p
Subj: Re: ENCYCLOPEDIA CD'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TB> I carry the 1992 21 volume Grolier"Academic America Encyclopedia" for
TB> $69. This is the best encyclopedia I have seen.
Terry is this version MAC compatable? I just recently ordered an Apple CD300.
Additionally when will the Grolier 93 version be out and have you heard
anything abt Britanica coming out with one?
Be advised I am interested in your 92 edition..m2
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From: DALE JONES Number: 393
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 07/14/93 7:14a
Subj: Re: CHESTNUT CD'S ONLY $10! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MS>$ALE $ALE $ALE $ALE $ALE $ALE $ALE $ALE $ALE $ALE $ALE $ALE $ALE $ALE
MS>The following Chestnut CD's are all $10!! (limited time offer) . . .
MS>Clipart Goliath * Dictionaries & Language * Too Many Typefonts * Windoware
MS>Bibles & Religion * Deathstar Arcade Battles * Shareware Overload
MS>Ham Radio 3.0 * Technotools * Sound Sensations * Colossal Cookbook
MS>Our Solar System * Complete Bookshop...................ALL ONLY $10.00 ea.
MS> STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
MS> VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
MS>---
Mike,
Do you supply a catalog of your wares? My address:
Me
663 Cypressgreen
San Antonio, TX. 78245
Regards
Dale Jones
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From: CARL SLAWINSKI Number: 394
To: MICHAEL KONOR Date: 07/16/93 12:40a
Subj: Re: OLD 600MS CD-ROM DRIVES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Ahoy Michael!
On <Wednesday July 14 1993>, Michael Konor was mumbling to Cam Lerch:
MK> 1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
MK> power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and
90-
MK> 240 VAC universal input. $215.00
MK>
MK> 2. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal. $190.00
MK>
MK> Features: DIP switches for ID, Parity, and Arbitration, 50 pin
MK> SCSI, 350ms/156k rates, external headphone/volume, Newest EPROM,
Refurb.,
MK> 64k buffer. Still have several remaining.
Are these TRUE SCSI drives?? Meaning, can I plug them into any SCSI controller
and all.
Also what is the warranty on these? Where did the come from?
Finally, how many you got left? (approximately)
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From: TERRY WOODWARD Number: 395
To: GLENN SANDERSE Date: 08/08/93 10:18p
Subj: Cd Rom mastering... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GS>An alternative to the Philips is the new Ricoh, for only a little more
GS>money than the Pinnacle, you get software for Sun, HP, DOS-compatibles and
GS>Mac.
Thanks. Got any source of info on the Ricoh unit? Know of anyone
selling it?
* QMPro 1.0 90-2031 * Any man who can see through women is sure missing a lot.
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From: TERRY WOODWARD Number: 396
To: PETER DETTELIS Date: 08/09/93 2:45p
Subj: new rules Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PD>I believe a separate Adult CD-ROM echo might serve a need in FIDOLAND. I
PD>personally do not want to see it mixed in with the two existing CD-ROM echos
PD>it currently is.
Really? Why is that? Is it because they aren't *really* cdroms? Or
because you think that the largest single segment of the cdrom industry
*isn't* adult?
I don't mean to sound harsh and I certainly don't want to irritate you
but there is a major difference in being around when adult material
sales are discussed and participating in it first hand.
Bob Hall has made the decision that they would not be discussed here and
I won't do it out of respect for Bob's opinion (and authority). Tim
Helton has made an entirely different decision and he has every right to
do so.
* QMPro 1.0 90-2031 * Just fishin' at the shallow end of the gene pool....
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From: JOHN BENJAMIN Number: 397
To: CHRIS CONKLIN Date: 08/08/93 11:22p
Subj: Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Chris,
Could you please send me your CD catalog. Send it to
BENJAMIN COMPUTER SERVICES, P.O. BOX 17380, West Palm Beach, Fl
33416-7380.
Thank you.
John Benjamin
■ QMPro 1.50 41-2352 ■ My Cozy Kitchen BBS - Over 300,000 recipes!
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From: DAVID SZLUCHA Number: 398
To: ALL Date: 08/07/93 10:51p
Subj: Shareware version of CD Speedway? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Is there a shareware CD-ROM cache out there?
Dave
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From: SAM FERTITTA Number: 399
To: ALLEN BURLESON Date: 08/09/93 5:26p
Subj: Re: willie beamish cd Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Allen Burleson to All <=-
AB> Has anyone purchased this cd? Saw it pretty cheap at a computer
AB> fair. I haven't played the game before. Is it interesting or boring?
AB>
AB> -!-
AB> * OFFLINE 1.54
Alan,
I read a review in CGW about his, not to many good things to say. Just like the
original except that it has voices for all the characters. The voices are said
to be awful to listen to, whinny and tinny, if I remember correctly.
Sam...
... All I need is a Wave and a board to surf it on. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
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From: MARTIN ALBERT Number: 400
To: TIM HELTON Date: 08/09/93 5:10p
Subj: Kodak With Sound Refer: NONE
Read: 08/12/93 1:37p Private: No
-=> Quoting Tim Helton to All <=-
TH> I've heard that Kodak CD technology will soon include sound
TH> capability.... Info regarding this will be appreciated.
It already has... You can add CD Audio to your PhotoCD to accompaign your
photos.
Shaka!
... Volatile Storage: A disk drive filled with nitroglycerine.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 401
To: PAUL HUNTER Date: 08/09/93 7:53a
Subj: Re: mitsumi drives?? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> PT> Some of those disks are over 630 Megs and they work fine. I have
-> PT> 16 bit controller card. Seems the older 8 bit card was causing a
-> PT> of problems.
->
-> What kind of problems?? 'Cause I'm using the 8 bit card and
-> no problems what so ever.
I've got the 16bit board, no problems...
It even showed the 8bit card on the box... 16bit inside.. I think the
difference is a driver revision... My driver is version 2.1
With MSCDEX ver. 2.21....
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 402
To: VINCE SORENSEN Date: 08/10/93 1:03a
Subj: MITSUMI DRIVES?? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
VS>-> What I stated was based on what my customers tell me. If you had 100
VS>-> customers contact you with complaints of read errors on their drives,
VS>-> and 90 of them owned Mitsumi's, what conclusion would you reach?
VS>That Mitsumis are very popular?
Now there's the *real* mystery! 8)
.\\ike
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* SLMR 2.1a * My computer's down. Can someone send it flowers?
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 403
To: STEVE PESANT Date: 08/10/93 1:03a
Subj: CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SP> About 2-3 weeks ago you first listed a handful of CD-ROM
packages...I
SP>was interested in a couple of the packages, Unfortunately I cannot remember
SP>which nunmbers I wanted...(It's been a while) Anyways, If you could repost
SP>those packages to allow me to take a quick look...My first order will be off
SP>and running immediately...
Sure Steve, here they are:
1. Night Owl 7.0 2. Storm 1 3. Southern Beauties 4. Hot Pix 3
Night Owl 8.0 Storm 2 All Beauties Hot Pix 4
Night Owl 9.0 Storm 3 Amateur Models Hot Pix 5
------------- ------- -------------- ---------
$69 $69 $95 $85
5. Night Owl 8.0 6. Night Owl 9 7. All Beauties
Night Owl 9.0 Pier 2 Southern Beauties
------------- ------ -----------------
$55 $59 $65
(There are more, but I don't think Bob wants me posting over 10 lines
worth of advertising)
SP>BTW - I requested the Night Owls 7.0 to be held awhile ago...Do you still
hav
SP>thtone set aside for me? (Please?!?!?!)
Sure do.
SP>In those packages you gave the option of purchasing the Powerpack Gold v.3
fo
SP>$4 with a purchase (Put me down for one of those disks too please.)
No prob.
Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 404
To: DREW IANNUZZI Date: 08/10/93 1:03a
Subj: CD-DUPE Chart.. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DI> Actually I am interested but have to hang for another CD Drive.
DI>Going to use it for my board.. Have currently 2 CD-ROM Drives online
DI>and will add more soon. Can I reply and order through FidoNet? I will
DI>move this into the CDROM 4SALE conference if possible. Thanx..
Drew,
Best way to order is either through the online order door on our BBS
@ 509-457-0206, or by voice @ 800-767-1284.
Bye,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 405
To: CLYDE SISLER Date: 08/10/93 1:03a
Subj: CD PACKAGE DEALS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CS>MS>-------------[ CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS ]------------------------------------
CS>MS>4. Night Owl 8.0 5. Night Owl 9 6. CD Winbox 4. House of
Game
CS>MS> Night Owl 9.0 Pier 2 Windows 93 Game Arena
CS>MS> ------------- ------ ---------- ----------
CS>MS> $55 $59 $44 $35
CS>Everything else in the package deals were BBS ready shareware, how about
CS>House of Games & Games Arena? Any more info?
Nah,
Excellent for gamers, but not for BBS use.
Later,
.\\ike
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* SLMR 2.1a * I used to have a life. Now I have Windows.
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 406
To: ALL Date: 08/10/93 1:03a
Subj: COMPTON'S INTERACTIVE!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
S COMPTON'S INTERACTIVE ENCYCLOPEDIA
A Retail........................$298
L Typical Store price...........$149
E Starvector's price.............$95!!
Now's your chance! Get the encyclopedia everyone's talking about.
Compton's Interactive MPC encyclopedia has something for everyone!
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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* SLMR 2.1a * I still miss my ex-wife, but my aim is getting better.
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 407
To: ALL Date: 08/10/93 1:03a
Subj: MORE BRAND NEW CD'S!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BRAND NEW CD ARRIVALS AT STARVECTOR!
Soundware Coll'ctn..$27 So Much Shareware 3.$28 QRZ Ham Radio.......$19
Hobbes OS/2 1993....$16 Hamware 1993........$28 Game Arena..........$13
Eagle Eye Shareware.$25 Up All Night........$19 Precision Mapping...$88
Fantazia Fonts/Snds.$29 Electronic Cookbook.$33 Learning Adventure..$13
M/M Computer Tutor..$30 Sound F/X Library...$29 Cookbook Heaven.....$27
Int'l Graphics Libr.$33 Musical Instruments.$58 The Holy Bible......$24
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: STEPHEN COCHRAN Number: 408
To: ALL Date: 08/09/93 8:07p
Subj: Looking for anatomy CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi, I am searching for a CD-ROM that contains images and information
similar to that found in Gray's Anatomy (the standard handbook). I
specifically need access to illustrations of the skeletal and nervous
systems. If anyone knows of such a beast, and could point me to the
correct publisher, I would be very grateful. Thanks in advance!
Stephen R. Cochran
... Fun, fun, fun, 'til her daddy takes her Blue Wave away!
--- GEcho 1.01+
* Origin: The Transporter Room: 8 lines 10gig 14 CD's 704/567-9513 (1:379/1.0)
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From: TONY DAVIS Number: 409
To: DENIS COLEMAN Date: 08/10/93 10:58a
Subj: SHAREWARE CD ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> For sale :-
>
> BUSTY BABIES ECSTACY HOT PICS
> MY PRIVATE COLLECTION VOL2 PC-PIX VOL1
> PRIVATE PICTURES I
> SO MUCH STAREWARE STORM I
> STORM II STORM III
I have to tell you that this is one dangerous ad.
On July 20th, I was arrested and booked on charges of sale &
possession of obscene material. My BBS & all related hardware was
seized. If found guilty, I am facing up to 15 years in jail and/or up
to $25,000 in fines.
All of the above titles were included in the seizure of my system.
Tony Davis
--- QM v1.26/a
* Origin: Torii Station TBBS 150,000 Files @14 Gig (1:147/20)
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From: DON RIEB Number: 410
To: KYLE PINKLEY Date: 08/09/93 5:23a
Subj: Re: CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 07 Aug 93 11:13:45, Kyle Pinkley said the following to All...
Regarding: CD
KP> Can you run the PC Sig 11 Shareware CD on a BBS? Wondering.
KP>
KP> Thanks!
CDCOM is a door that ran my PC-Sig version 10, I have it up on the BBS if you
want to download it, you can get the BBS suport number from it and then call
to get a current one for version 11. SaveWare 708-657-1160 16.8 Dual. Look
in the CDROM file base.
--- Renegade v07-17 Beta
* Origin: FREQ or DLOAD CDROMCAT.ZIP from 708-724-2427 10Gig (1:115/724)
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From: ROBERT LEE Number: 411
To: ALL Date: 08/09/93 11:07p
Subj: CDRom/BBS Door Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CDMX2DOR
Beta v.99
The "Next Generation CDRom-Access BBS Door"
(c)1993 Robert E. Lee
(309)797-6027
U.S.A.
1:232/31 8:7002/3005
New Century BBS
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A special "Thanks" to Chris Kuefler @1:3402/22Fidonet for his suggestions
and assistance in beta-testing CDMX2DOR.
=============================================================================
So long, ROMBRAIN, Hello CDMX2DOR!!!
In the beginning there was CDMAXDOR, and it worked ok on some
boards but was not capable of doing some things that it should
and gave some folks fits. As a result of many suggestions from
CDMAXDOR users and other sysops, here is CDMX2DOR, a CDRom-BBS
interface door that, I believe, you'll find to be a superior
product. The latest version of CDMX2DOR is available for F'Req
at 1:232/31 as well as are a number of other doors we've written.
WHAT WILL CDMX2DOR DO?
In a word.... EVERYTHING.
Some features:
o it will work with ANY BBS software (not just MAXIMUS) that
is capable of writing a long-style (52 line) DOOR.SYS
drop-file, e.g., WILDCAT, PCB, GAP, etc. If your system
can't write a long-style DOOR.SYS, then you may still
use this software via a door conversion program that
makes long-style DOOR.SYS files.
o it will allow you to control the number of KBytes that
a user may access from your CD's in a given day so as
to prevent file leaching.
o it will allow viewing of textfiles and will unarchieve
zips for viewing as well.
o it will automatically update MAXIMUS BBS user's files
to reflect their CDRom downloads. Other boards' auto-
updating of user's download stats is not yet supported
but will be (for registered users).
If you are a Maximus BBS sysop, it will:
o end the need to re-SILT when you
change CD's
o end the need to FB your CD's
o end putting your files.bbs's on your
HD and save you a lot of HD space
o automatically write its own door.sys
of the type necessary
o make using CD's on Max a piece of cake!
o Configuration is done by a standard ASCII text editor
of your choice, e.g., QEdit, so it is very easy to
set up. Extensively documented installation instructions.
o it will allow users to download files from your CD or
HD with ease, search for files or text, and allow your
users to unzip files on the CD for reading text files
and other docs in zipped files.
It will do all of the above and MUCH more... handles up to 34 CD's online
available for a single user; multinodal. Several utilities included. Can
handle every type of CD, even those with NO files.bbs/dirx.lst, etc.
FReq CDMX2DOR.ZIP @ 1:232/31 (2400-14400) 24 hrs.
Robert
--- Maximus 2.00
* Origin: Handy Magazine (1:231/40)
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From: ROBERT LEE Number: 412
To: ALL Date: 08/09/93 11:11p
Subj: CDRom BBS Door (2) Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
o it will allow users to download files from your CD or
HD with ease, search for files or text, and allow your
users to unzip files on the CD for reading text files
and other docs in zipped files.
o it will add your BBS comment/advertisement on outgoing
files.
o it will also allow you to put your C: drive (HD) files
within its structure for use, so CDMX2DOR can even be
used as a complete drop-in files-transfer system working
with CDRom drives and Hard Drives. Tape drive interfacing
may be supported in future versions to registered users.
If you want to squeeze every possible drive for online
files for your users, you can even have CDMX2DOR access
files off your B:\ drive for an additional 1.44 meg of
files online.
o it has beautiful ansi graphics and also supports non-ansi
use.
o it will allow you to have as many as 34 CD's online, each
in its own drive, from which users may select
o it will support CD's with as many as 99 subdirectories
and you can break down a CD that has more than 99
subdirectories into 2 or more sub-sets (thereby making
CDMX2DOR capable of handling any CD regardless of its
number of subdirectories).
o it is fully configureable. It will work with:
o CD's with files.bbs in separate
subdirectories on the CD.
o CD's with dirx.lst in separate
subdirectories on the CD.
o You can even specify what file it should
look for to find subdirectory listings,
e.g., files.bbs, dirx.lst, files.lst,
DIR, or whatever you have.
o CD's that have their files.bbs's or
whatever, in a single subdirectory on
the CD instead of having them in each
subdirectory.
o It will even work with CD's that don't
even have a files.bbs or other subdirectory
listing at all -- you can create a list
on your HD and call it whatever you like
(but it must be in a files.bbs- or dirx.
lst-like structure). A utility for making
skeleton files.bbs-like structures is
included in this archieve.
o If you wish you can copy your CD's files.bbs-
like lists to the HD for fast file searches
or leave them on the CD to save HD space.
It is entirely up to you.
o you can even incorporate your HD files
into CDMX2DOR if you desire.
o Detects online/offline files automatically.
o Supports X, Y, 1K, and Z-modem downloads via DSZ.COM
o Supports file-tagging, instant downloading, global search
and a host of other features.
Not bad, eh? Well, it will do much more. It will keep track of
a user's downloads so that you can specify a "daily limit" of
download Kbytes off the CD(s). It will keep track of how much
time it will take to download files (based on baudrates) and not
allow a slow modem to download a huge file and eclipse their
time-allotted limit. It will even allow you to lock out certain
files from being downloaded if you don't want nasty gifs to be
available to your users. There's even more...
o Supports having certain files requiring a "key" that
a user must know in order to process these files.
FReq CDMX2DOR.ZIP (270k) 1:232/31 (2400-14400 baud, 24hrs)
--- Maximus 2.00
* Origin: Handy Magazine (1:231/40)
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From: ROBERT LEE Number: 413
To: MIKE MCCULLOUGH Date: 08/09/93 11:15p
Subj: CDMAXDOR.ZIP Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MM> I picked up this door fromyour board and have to say
MM> it's a very nice door for cdroms. Only problem I'm
MM> having is that I can't get it to work remotely. It
MM> works local just fine. I've checked my COM port
MM> settings and also checked the DOOR.SYS file. Any help
MM> sure would be appreciated.
Sure thing. You should set line 3 in the *.cnf file to 3 instead of 0 for
com2. Line 3 is the IRQ number for the comport. If this still doesn't let you
run it remotely, then you might want to FReq CDMX2DOR.ZIP at 1:232/31 (270k)
2400-14400 baud, 24hrs. CDMX2DOR.ZIP is a MUCH better door, the next
generation of CDMAXDOR. This one will run with All IBM systems as well as
Maximus. See a description of what it will do elsewhere in this packet.
Remember, set line 3 in the *.cnf file to 3 instead of 0 and make sure line 4
is 02F8 for Com2. Make sure your door.sys says COM2: make sure your -s in your
spawnbbs.bat is set to a lockedport speed, e.g., -s38400.
If still problems, FReq CDMX2DOR.ZIP... you'll be glad you did.
Robert
--- Maximus 2.00
* Origin: Handy Magazine (1:231/40)
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From: BRUCE BOWMAN Number: 414
To: DAVID BERNARD Date: 08/10/93 8:15p
Subj: Re: CD-ROMs and DESQview Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Well, as it turned out, I am still having problems even with changing to IRQ
5. What program are you using to play music on your CD drive? I have
PLAYBACK.COM and PLAY.EXE. Neither of them work properly -- I continue to get
exception 13's. Since I can run other programs that access the drive and don't
have this problem, I guess it is no surprise that it might be program-related.
I will trying loading MSCDEX in the DV window and see what that does for me --
perhaps the two programs need separate copies of MSCDEX to operate properly?
In the meantime, if you have alternative music programs that I could freq and
try, I would really appreciate it.
--- FreeMail/QuickBBS 2.76a Ovr
* Origin: ** The H.O.M.E. BBS (317)539-6579 ** (1:231/710)
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From: BRUCE BOWMAN Number: 415
To: DAVID BERNARD Date: 08/10/93 8:42p
Subj: Well, I'll be... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
As it turns out (again), I may have been premature with my assessment of the
situation with my DAK CD drive. I discovered that there is a switch on the SYS
driver that came with the drive that also affects the interrupt. I stumbled
upon this when I ran MANIFEST and discovered that MTMCDSA.SYS was still using
interrupt 3! From this, I gleaned that the /I switch must also indicate the
interrupt in use.
If you have any inkling as to what all these switches mean, it might be a good
idea to post the meanings for the benefit of myself and others. This may sound
like a trivial exercise to most, but I can assure you that the DAK
documentation that came with my drive had virtually nothing to assist me in
any of this.
Here are the lines I have for the drive. In CONFIG.SYS:
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\UTIL\MTMCDSA.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:300 /A:0 --
/M:2 /I:5
I believe that /P is the base address, and /I the interrupt (a guess, since it
used to be 3), and /D is some kind of driver name. I know nothing of the
others. In the manual, they told me only how to set the DIP switches and
jumpers; nothing about the command line. With the hardware jumper set for IRQ
5 and the driver to 3, I'm surprised things are working at all!
In AUTOEXEC.BAT:
C:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:2 C:\MSCDEX.EXE /D:MSCD001 /M:8 /L:E /V /E
I believe /D is again the driver, /M is some kind of I/O buffers, /L is the
drive letter. I don't know what the others mean.
If anyone can assist, please do. I am not completely ignorant technically, but
without references I find myself less than clairvoyant. I truly believe that
some companies try to force you to call their tech support lines -- perhaps
they get a kickback from the phone company? Whatever...
--- FreeMail/QuickBBS 2.76a Ovr
* Origin: ** The H.O.M.E. BBS (317)539-6579 ** (1:231/710)
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From: KEITH GUINDON Number: 416
To: DAVID HARRISON Date: 08/10/93 8:39p
Subj: mitsumi Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In regards to your question on MITSUMI drives. I have just started the Hobby
Haven BBS and my main file area is 2 CD-roms with shareware on MITSUMI 350 ms
drives. I originally had a drive they manufactured for TANDY which is 8 bit
and about 600ms access. This was even fast enough for a BBS. THere should be
no problem with these drives.
---
* Origin: The Hobby House BBS, Jonestown,Pa. (1:270/312)
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From: STEVE PROCTOR Number: 417
To: SEAN EAGAN Date: 08/10/93 10:25a
Subj: *wanted! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Sean!
I have 4 of the Toshibx XM-3201B CDROM Drives. Give me a address on where to
send them and make me a offer and they are yours. I believe 2 of the four work
part-time. Let me know or netmail me at the address below.
Steve
--- GEcho/RA2.0+
* Origin: The Microline OS/2 BBS Sacramento, CA 916-641-6930 (1:203/529)
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From: STEVE PROCTOR Number: 418
To: ALL Date: 08/10/93 12:21p
Subj: CDROM Drives Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for a inexpensive CDROM Drive and was wondering what you all
recomend. I will be using it for the BBS mainly, but may play a few
music CD's in it every once in awhile or even a few Multi-Media games, so
it should meet MultiMedia standards.
I have been looking at my local computer papers and see the MITSUMI with
controller going for around $185.00. Is this a SCSI CDROM Drive? I need
it to be SCSI as I will use it with my Adaptec 1542B or ProAudio Spectrum
Sound Card SCSI controller.
Anyone have any recomendations and some prices?
Steve
... Your Win-OS/2 BBS
--- GEcho/RA2.0+
* Origin: The Microline OS/2 BBS Sacramento, CA 916-392-7/8123 (1:203/529.0)
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From: DANNY Number: 419
To: WEE YUNG Date: 08/09/93 11:47p
Subj: $19 for CDROM titles Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
WY> Kodak Photo access..............$19*
WY> Tempra Access Photo CD..........$19*
Is the Kodak Photo Access just a viewer?
Do you take credit card? Can you send me a catalog?
* SLMR 2.1a * Bubble gum is bad sole food.
--- Maximus 2.01wb
* Origin: The Airtight Garage, San Francisco, Cal. 415-641-0348 (1:125/17)
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From: RICHARD NIXON Number: 420
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 08/09/93 2:29a
Subj: CD-ROM INTERFACES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BF>>Also, thoughts on SCSI cards.
BF>Always IN-2000 - don't settle for lesser Adaptec stuff....
Ouch! I had the IN-2000 and was not pleased with its performance and
ability to handle more than just two HDs.
I am running Adaptec 154x cards now and have not had any problems.
* OLX 2.1 TD * If this were an actual tagline, it would be funny.
--- WM v3.01/92-0214
* Origin: The Classifieds SF, CA (415) 665-7918 (1:125/665.0) (1:125/665.0)
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From: STEVE PESANT Number: 421
To: HAROLD LEDUC Date: 08/10/93 6:21p
Subj: Deep throat Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GK> I would like to know if there is anybody who has
GK> seen the CD-ROM "Deep
> Throat"... Is it a movie or a game??? I've seen the ads but don't
> know what to think of it...
Well well well... You are right it was a movie...A Big MOVIE...But now it's
available on CD-ROM...Yes...The whole thing....
-=Cheers=-
Steve.
--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
* Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070)
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From: MARK THORNTON Number: 422
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/10/93 8:05a
Subj: Re: CATALOG VIA EMAIL? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Boris i would like an update on your catalog. 1:384/8
--- QuickBBS 2.76a
* Origin: Swamp-Line BBS Houma,La.(504)868-5347 (1:384/8)
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From: CORRY MACFARLANE Number: 423
To: FRANK RUSKO Date: 08/10/93 7:23p
Subj: Re: Cd-Rom Interfaces Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
FR-> I still do not think that Always supports OS/2..
Yes, they now support OS/2. However, it's currently through a third party
vendor. You have to shell out another $50 for the driver from the other
verdor. Always is working on their own drive and is supposed to be available
in a couple of months. I've also heard the IBM is supposed to have a driver
out for it next month.
Corry Macfarlane
--- QuickBBS 2.76a
* Origin: SPACE COAST BBS, Titusville, Florida, (407) 269-2169 (1:374/3)
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From: CORRY MACFARLANE Number: 424
To: JAMES FRAZEE Date: 08/10/93 7:31p
Subj: Re: BBS Door for CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JF-> SL> Any good recommendation on BBS DOOR for access Shareware CD-ROM
JF-> for
JF-> SL> Maximus? Where can I FREQ them? Thanks!
JF-> SL> Regards
JF->
JF-> If you find one,could you call and upload it to (206) 691-5042
JF-> I will be trying to run RomBrain,that is for DOOR.SYS bbses.
JF->
If you two are interested, I've been writing a CD-ROM door for a while now.
Here's a little blurb on it. If any wants to give it a try, give me your BBS
number and I'll call and UL it to you!! What a deal, huh.....
It can also be downloaded from this BBS (Space Coast BBS) as well as many
other BBS's in the Central Florida area. You can also download it from
America On-Line if you are a member of AOL.
Email me for more information or via Internet at CMacfarlan@aol.com
WHAT IS CD-ROM ACCESS?
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CD-ROM Access (CDA) is a type of BBS door program that will allow your BBS
to access up to 6 seperate CD-ROM drives and have as many as 25 CD-ROMs
on-line. It works with most BBS drop files (CHAIN.TXT, DOOR.SYS,
DORINFOx.DEF, etc). CDA is sysop configurable, very user friendly. Works
with BBS's in DOS, Windows, DESQview, OS/2, and using a Fossil Driver.
I can understand your question, "Why do I need a CD-ROM door, my BBS handles
CDs just fine?" Well, your probably right for about 50% of the CDs out there.
The basic difference between CDA and your BBS is your BBS's download files
are based on directories (ie, All the files for a specific topic, Windows,
are all in one directory). CDA, on the other hand, includes a path for each
file available for download. For example: Take the CD manufactures that have
a directory in the root directory of the CD called FILES. Below that dir
are 27 other directories, A,B,C....,Z, and 1. On a CD like this (and there's
a lot of them out there) the files are put in the directory which coresponds
to the first letter of the filename (ie, CAD.ZIP would be under C). If it's
not a letter, then it goes in some special directory like 1. I'm sure you
can see the problem here. There can be files dealing with Programming mixed
in with Games. Well, how do you tell your BBS (which, remember, is based on
directories) where to find the file your user wants to download?
You can't without CD-ROM Access.
CDA allows you to move files to different categories if you don't like the one
the manufacture put it in. You can easily change the descriptions. With CDA
you can copy files to hard disks or floppies without any effort.
CDA runs in local mode as well as with your BBS. This means that you, the
sysop, can use it to find and copy programs with little or no effort. You can
configure which protocols you want to use and how you want to use them.
As long as CD manufactures continue to make CDs, you'll be glad you've got
CD-ROM Access to help you.
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Corry Macfarlane
--- QuickBBS 2.76a
* Origin: SPACE COAST BBS, Titusville, Florida, (407) 269-2169 (1:374/3)
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From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 425
To: CHRIS ROBINSON Date: 08/09/93 11:25p
Subj: 16 bit sound card - HELP! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Is one 16 bit stereo card compatible with another. Can the SB16 ASP
-> support software configured for the PAS16 ?? This is where I get
-> confused. And has anyone seen the Computer Peripherals Maestro 16
-> Card, it sounds super but is it compatible to the rest ???? (it has
-> 32 voices)
I don't own a cd rom yet I was reading on the bbs's by the sound of it
it looks like all the software packages require 16 bit sound cards and
aren't compatible with the old 8 bit sound blasters so the best bet is
to get a sound blaster 16 asp or the name is spectrum audio 16 its
supposed to be 100% compatible with the sound blaster 16 asp i'd
personally go with the sound blaster 16 asp from the sound of it if you
get that card you shouldn't have any problems since it does the old
sound blaster, adlib plus the new 16 bit standard that they have.
Louis
--- FidoPCB v1.4 beta
* Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15)
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 426
To: TERRY WOODWARD Date: 08/10/93 8:03p
Subj: Mac Cdrom distribution Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CC> I have a few MAC customers who are looking for titles..... Please
CC> send me info this and others you may have..... Thanks.
CC>
CC> C-3 Production Systems PO Box 60144 San Angelo, Tx 76906 915-944-7187
CC> --- Maximus/2 2.01wb
CC> * Origin: Animal House BBS: 915-942-9350 (1:383/300)
Terry add me to this distribution list also. MAC disks are of great
interest!!
M. Mulcahy
9300 Hamilton Drive
Fairfax, VA 22031
Internet: michael.mulcahy@his.com
--- MacWoof 1.5.3
* Origin: Fairfax, VA (1:109/70.986@fidonet)
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From: MICHAEL KONOR Number: 427
To: ALL Date: 08/11/93 10:45a
Subj: SCSI CDROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SCSI CDROMs For Sale:
Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM External $200.00
Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM Internal $180.00
Works great on MS-DOS, OS/2, Amiga, and Mac. Features 50 Pin True SCSI,
300ms access, 156k transfer, newest EPROMs installed, and 64k Buffer.
Service Center Refurbished. MPC Compliant. Warranty
205-837-5053 anytime.
--- Star-Net v1.02
* Origin: Inferno_205.837.7715&3990_16.8KDual_3.9GB_ADS (1:373/8.0)
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From: DON BRADEN Number: 428
To: ANDREW BARFOOT Date: 08/10/93 6:05p
Subj: quotation Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
it was Voltaire
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
--- Maximus 2.01wb
* Origin: The Eagle's Nest BBS (1:249/152)
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From: MARK RICHARDSON Number: 429
To: ALL Date: 08/09/93 11:53p
Subj: SBPro Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have a Sound Blaster Pro and am interested in buying a CD-ROM. Besides
the Creative Labs CD-ROM, which one will work nicely with my card and
not cost me too much?
thanks,
Mark
... All I need is a Wave and a board to surf it on.
--- GEcho 1.00+
* Origin: *The BillBoard BBS*Newmarket ON Canada*(416)898-2443* (1:250/932.0)
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From: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON Number: 430
To: WEE YUNG Date: 08/10/93 10:36p
Subj: SBPro CD ROM Drives Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Just want to ask you a ???, is the new Panasonic 562B model CD-ROM drive
compatible with MULTI-session photo CD & is it entirely compatible with OS/2
2.1 & if it isn`t, can we get a driver for it???
--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
* Origin: DomTech OS/2 BBS, Aylmer PQ (819)682-5400 HST/DS (1:243/6)
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 431
To: CRAIG DOBIE Date: 08/09/93 8:09a
Subj: BBS Shareware CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CD> I know there are some sharewhere CD's formated for BBS's
CD>(FILES.BBS) I was wondering if anyone has one or knows
The So much Shareware II is bbs ready.
Call 310-602-2076 8am-12pm, 6pm-9pm PST ask Wee Yung.
Night Owl Shareware v.8.........$35 Ocean Digital Imagery ver. 1....$35
PC-SIG Sharewares 12th Edition..$29 PC-SIG sharewares games.........$19*
Peter & Wolf MPC................$19* Phoenix v.3.0 Shareware programs$29
Secret Weapons/ Luftwaffe.......$19* Shareware April 1993............$29
So much Shareware Disk II or I..$19* Shareware overload..............$19*
Sitmel 20....Sharewares.........$19* Stellar 7 game..................$19*
Add $3 for shipping and handling. No exchange for difference titles.
* OLX 2.1 TD * voice 310-602-2076.8am-12pm,6pm-9pm PST. Fax 310-402-7240
--- Maximus 2.00
* Origin: Long_Island RB (310) 370-4113 VAX EC (HST 16.8K/V32b) (1:102/138)
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From: SHAUN RADER Number: 432
To: NITIN N. GUPTA Date: 08/10/93 9:23a
Subj: Good buy or rip off Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
<<***** On 08-08-93, NITIN N. GUPTA wrote to ALL: *****>>
NN>I went to the computer show at The Royal Trade Plaza Hotel and they had
NN>a double speed cd-rom drive with a sb-16 asp clone for $400. Do you
NN>think this is a good deal and what kind of questions should I ask the
NN>guy about the hardware?
Sounds like a great deal to me! I got a Sound Blaster CD-ROM drive by
itself (NOT even double speed) for $399! Just the CD Player by itself. If
that price is for a double speed player AND a Sound Blaster 16 ASP, it's a
GREAT deal.
I wish I had that option when I got my CD-ROM drive. You should ask them
what the K per second is (150K is normal, around 300K is double speed), what
the access time is (I got 390ms, some are as fast as 200ms). That's
basically all that you need to know about the CD-ROM player.
You may want to know if it's an external or internal CD Drive, because if
it's internal, you have to have a space for it in your computer. Ah...
that's about it. Also, is this SB-16 clone a 100% compatible?
-Shaun Rader
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From: DAVID M. WHITE Number: 433
To: DON RIEB Date: 08/10/93 9:38a
Subj: FREE CDROM CATALOG! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DR> New CDROM catalog, F'REQ 1:115/724 for CDROMCAT.ZIP or Send
DR> printed catalog. You can also call 708-657-1160 or write
I would like to receive your printed catalog-send to David M. White, 452 N.
Bull Run Dr., Tucson, Az 85748--------Thanks
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From: JOHN STRUEMPH Number: 434
To: ROY COCHRUN Date: 08/09/93 10:11p
Subj: Re: CD-rom help! Refer: NONE
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Ray try this in your config.sys and autoexec.bat
Config.sys
device=c:\dos\emm386.exe 256 ram x=a000-c7ff i=ce00-efff frame=e000
devicehigh=c:\mitsumi-driver and so on
Do not try to load MSCDEX high in autoexec.bat
Try this instead
C:\BIN(OR DOS IF 6.0)\MSCDEX.EXE \D:WHATEVER IT SAYS ADDING /E
TO THE END OF THE LINE
The /E loads the dos cd extensions in to the small ems area
you created in the config.sys line above
This has worked on dozens of machines I have built and is
what I am using here at home. If you need to I will
message a copy of my config.sys and Autoexec.bat to this
echo complete if you need it. Good luck ......John
... Vaporware, not again! I just used the last of the air freshener.
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From: TERRY MARRS Number: 435
To: ALL Date: 08/10/93 8:17p
Subj: Sony CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello All!
Picked up a external Sony CD-ROM drive cheap. Does anyone know where I can
obtain drivers for the drive? Does Sony have a BBS? Anyone got a number for
SOny?
Terry
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From: DAVE REDOUX Number: 436
To: ALL Date: 08/08/93 9:23p
Subj: New Purchase Suggestions Refer: NONE
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Hi Folks,
I have a 386SX-16 and I am hoping to add a CD-ROM drive to my system.
I don't have a Sound Blaster Card. Will I be able to add a CD-ROM to
this setup as it is right now or is a 386SX-16 not a good enough system?
Also, will I need a SB Card? It would probably be a SB 16 ASP since it
seems, based on many other msg's, that this is the best one on the market.
It seems under 300ms access and at least 300kb/sec transfer is about
a middle of the road CD-ROM player. Any ballpark $$'s for an external?
Thanks for being patient with a newbie!
Best Regards.
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From: ALBERTO ARVANI LACOMBE Number: 437
To: LOIS FRANKEL Date: 08/05/93 6:45p
Subj: Cd's for CD-ROM's Refer: NONE
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Hi Lois !!!
First of all , I want to you know who am I !
I'm a normal user in some BBSs in Brazil and I want to buy a CD-ROM...
But in Brazil , the technology is not advanced...So I want some informations
from others countries...
I think you can help me ...
Well I have a Sound Blaster Pro with a 386 DX 40 MHZ 4 MB machine ...
I installed DOS 6.0 with DOUBLESPACE and I am using a memory program : QEMM
7.0b
The informations wich I want are :
-> What BBS programs does Sysops use ? What version ?
-> What's your System / Machine ?
I live in Curitiba , in Paraná ( in the South ) .. It's a beautiful city !
Nice to meet you ( via message... )
Abraços ,
Goodbye ,
Alberto Arvani Lacombe
Curitiba , 5/Aug/1993
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From: CHRISTIAN GRIMM Number: 438
To: DARRELL CRONE Date: 08/08/93 1:10p
Subj: test Refer: NONE
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* Em mensagem para All, Darrell Crone disse:
DC > this is a test if you recieve this please send me a
DC > reply...
DC > Thanks
DC > Darrell
I reced your msg and I am sensending a repl
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From: TIM KLAN Number: 439
To: JURRIE HOBERS Date: 08/09/93 6:44a
Subj: Re: 240 disk changer Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JH>When you want more info, contact me.....
>I have the latest info of a drive which can handle 1,000 cd's!!!!!!!!
Whats the manufacturer's suggested retail on these puppies?
...tim klan
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From: SEAN EAGAN Number: 440
To: ALL Date: 08/10/93 2:38p
Subj: *Wanted Your Dead CD-ROMS! Refer: NONE
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WANTED!
Your DEAD CD-ROM Drives!
I am Looking for TOSHIBA XM-3201B's and NEC's ONLY!
I want them! They are just sitting around gathering dust.
Looking For Toshiba and NEC!
I WANT THEM! Sell them to me!
Call me and we'll discuss a fair price or Reply here!
Might as well make some money on them!
Sean Eagan
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From: TIM SMITH Number: 441
To: CARLOS BENITZ Date: 08/09/93 9:26a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Refer: NONE
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CB> Could you describe these bands in a bit more detail? Are they
CB> made of lead, rubber? Are they designed for this use (are they
CB> found with the CD stuff) or are they actually for some other
CB> purpose?
I don't know baout those bands yall are talking about, But You can goto
a High Priced Audio store and get, Looks like a pad to set on the cd-disk.
High priced meanning a store that carries like Dennon recivers.
... Ok, I pulled the pin. Now what?.....Hey! Where are you going?
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From: ALLEN BURLESON Number: 442
To: JOHN HART Date: 08/11/93 12:38a
Subj: WILLIE BEAMISH CD Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting John Hart to Allen Burleson <=-
-> It's pretty funny. His family acts like a bunch of brats. Sort of a
JH> Simpson's adventure in some ways.
Thanks John! I'll get it at the next fair. The current price was $18. Not
bad at all.
-- Allen
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From: CRAIG BAKER Number: 443
To: JEFF COCHRAN Date: 08/09/93 9:59a
Subj: 7TH GUEST INCOMPATIBILITIES. Refer: NONE
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>> I read in the new issue of COMPUTER GAMING
>> WORLD that the game "The 7th Guest" does not seem to
>> work properly with the PRO AUDIO SPECTRUM 16. I am
>> getting the PAS16 in a few days, and was planning to
>> buy the game as well. Does anybody know anything
>> about this problem? Is there a solution to it yet?
I bought 7th Guest the day it was released. Works fine on my PAS-16 no
problems, no patches needed. Since the PAS-16 has a wide selection of IRQs and
DMAs. I suspect some other incompatibility caused the problem.
Craig
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From: MICHAEL CROSSON Number: 444
To: ALL Date: 08/11/93 2:30a
Subj: Jem Disc $14.95 Straight Up Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Jem Disc I Shareware CD-Rom Collection - now just $19.95 plus S/H
OR send us a used unwanted CD-Rom in good condition and Jem Disc is
yours for just $14.95 including S/H!
Jem Disc was pressed last September and features about 500MB of great
files in 59 well organized directories. Nearly 100 megs of Jem Disc's
files are BBS/Sysop related making this disc a must for all serious
sysops! This disc has files you need but won't find anywhere else!
FREQ from 1:203/49 at v.32bis speeds:
JEMDISC - Jem Disc description, stats & order form (5k)
JEMTRADE - Jem Disc trade in special (hurry offer ends 9/15!)
JEMFILES - Jem Disc Complete FILES.BBS file listings
Or call my BBS at 916-921-9949 & snag these files from my logon matrix!
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From: BRUCE BOWMAN Number: 445
To: DAVID BERNARD Date: 08/10/93 10:47p
Subj: Re: CD-ROMs and DESQviewi Refer: NONE
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In a message to Bruce Bowman <08-08-93 22:09> David Bernard wrote:
DB> I load the MTMCDD.SYS in my Config.SYS:
DB> DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\MTMCDD.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:300 /M:16
DB> /I:5 /T:S
Ah...this isn't the same driver that came with my drive! I wonder what the
odds are of what you have working with my drive? It's a BSR 6800MX.
Any chance of freqing the driver from you?
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From: JEFF WEBSTER Number: 446
To: VINCENT CAPALBO Date: 08/08/93 2:21p
Subj: cd Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
VC> -=> Quoting Jeff Webster to All <=-
VC>
VC> JW> I just bought a Cd-Rom and I wanted to know if anyone could
VC>
VC> JW> recommend a shareware Cd that would be good for my BBS.
VC>
VC> Try a Night Owl. I heard theres a fairly recent volume out.
VC>
VC> ... Backup not found: (A)bort (R)etry (P)anic
VC> ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
VC>
VC>
VC> --- WM v3.01/92-0695
VC> * Origin: The Butterfly BBS/N1*201-523-1162*HST/DS 16.8k (1:2604/112
VC>
VC>
VC>
Ok I'll give it a try that is what most people recommend.
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From: STEPHEN COCHRAN Number: 447
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 08/10/93 7:37a
Subj: Re: Magnto-optical disc Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LR> Sure you may be, but right you are not. In the first place,
LR> there is no such thing as a "magnetic beam". In the second, the LASER
LR> does not heat up the medium at all. The LASER is used to flip the
LR> magnetic domains itself. For a write, the domain is simply changed to
LR> the appropriate value. For a read, a 1 is written, and if a pulse is
LR> seen in a standard read head nearby, then the domain was flipped and
LR> the value was 0. A 0 is then immediately re-written to the bit. If
LR> no pulse is seen, then the bit already was a 1, and no further action
LR> is taken, except of course to transmit a 1 back to the controller.
LR> Les
You are right about there being no "magnetic beam", but wrong about
the laser.
A MO drive has a "write head" that consists of two parts. The first
is a magnetic head which spans the entire radius of the disk. This is
used to set the magnetic polarity of the bits, one bit at a time.
Since the media is affected by this field only when it reaches it's
"Curie point", the laser is used to heat the media at the proper bit
positions. The Curie Point is that temperature where the material is
affected by a magnetic field (very simplistic definition). The
sequence is as follows:
The magnetic field is set to write 0's. The laser is used to heat the
media at ALL positions where bits will be changing. This writes 0's
to all changed locations. The field is then set to write 1's
(opposite polarity). The laser heats the media at all bit positions
that should be written as 1's. This is a write-twice situation when
writing 1's, and a write-once when writing 0's. That's why they are
so much slower writing than when reading. Reading only takes 1 pass.
BTW, I may have the sequence backwards (1's first, 0's second), but
the principal is correct.
The laser is also used to READ the bits. When run at a lower power
level, the laser can be used to detect the polarity of each bit, thus
determining whether it is a 1 or a 0.
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From: DAVID BERNARD Number: 448
To: BRUCE BOWMAN Date: 08/11/93 6:34a
Subj: Well, I'll be... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
|BB>If you have any inkling as to what all these switches mean, it might be |
|a good idea to post the meanings for the benefit of myself |
|and others. This may sound like a trivial exercise to |
|most, but I can assure you that the DAK documentation that |
|came with my drive had virtually nothing to assist me in |
|any of this. |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Well I sent this already but just to make sure:
The MTMCDD.SYS in Config.SYS:
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\MTMCDD.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:300 /M:16 /I:5 /T:S
^ ^ ^
Buffer IRQ Drv
One other thing I did in the Config.Sys was I moved the MTMCDD.SYS up higher
in it from the last line where the install placed it, and above several other
drivers that are loaded. I don't know if it had any effect or not. I than
optimized again after it and its been working well. In the DV window I have
protection level 1 set and am still trying Tame in it and both were there
before when the wrong IRQ 3 was set.
On buffers, DAK said in the MTMCDD.SYS you can allocate more memory to its
buffers since most systems have plenty ofg free high memory.
|In AUTOEXEC.BAT: |
| |
|C:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:2 C:\MSCDEX.EXE /D:MSCD001 /M:8 /L:E /V /E |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
usage: MSCDEX [/E/K/S/V] [/D:<driver> ... ] [/L:<letter>] [/M:<buffers>]
This is where we differ, and I don't load MSCDEX.EXE in the Autoexec for two
reasons. The first and certainly most important it will load high after its
been optimized but than it won't run in DOS or DV for me that way. You are
the second person who has the DAK and has been able to load MSCDEX.EXE high
and have it work but I have not. The DAK book on page C-11 even says
"However, the MSCDEX.EXE driver should not be loaded high; therefore, all
memory allocated to that driver will be taken from the 640K of base system
memory." That is the second reason I load MSCDEX.EXE in DV seperate window and
not in DOS, I save the original DOS lower memory which is at 634K without it
and about 610K with MSCDEX.EXE loaded in DOS before running DV. I only use
the CD-ROM in that one window so in DV so I don't need it loaded beforehand.
But it's is interesting that you and the other fellow can load MSCDEX.EXE high
and it still works and I can't. Hmmm!
I use the music programs provided by DAK, and it works well now in DV.
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------+
|SS> Uh-oh.. a BIG problem right there. The music player programs tend to |
|seriously screw up DV and crash for no apparent reason, taking |
|everything down when they go. Play music under DOS and don't use DV - |
|at l;east I never could get it to work, even when it was the only DV |
|window open.. |
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------+
BTW, the SYSOP above I asked about it also loaded the MSCDEX.EXE in DOS before
DV and has not been able to use the music player either. So because I don't
load MSCDEX.EXE in DOS but later in a seperate DV window and I have been able
to play musice in background and does it have a reason or not? Hmmm!
Quote for the day:
Computers are unreliable, but humans are even more unreliable.
Any system which depends on human reliablity is unreliable.
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From: MIKE MEEKS Number: 449
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/11/93 12:32a
Subj: Re: technical info cd's Refer: NONE
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Boris:
I would be interested in any civil or electrical engineering CD's. Could you
send a catalogue to CEAO bbs, Mike Meeks, 970 Dublin Road, Columbus, OH 43215
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN Number: 450
To: PAT PUSHOR Date: 08/10/93 10:58p
Subj: Help! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* In a message originally to All, Pat Pushor said:
PP> I am in desperate need of a disc of complete shareware
PP> source. I know somebody makes one and I am having a tough
PP> time trying to locate it. If anyone knows where I can grab
PP> ONE disc ( I can get it now in quantity, but...) I would be
PP> very appreciative.
I assume you want shareware source code? If so, take a look at EMS Professional
Shareware's CD-ROM with TP, ASM, C/C++, AutoCAD/AutoLISP, Xbase, Paradox,
Access, Visual Basic, VBDOS/QB/PDS, OS/2, etc. Call voice:(301)924-3594 or
Fax:(301)963-2708, or leave an address and we'll send a brochure. Alternatives
(if you are
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From: BLAINE RICHARD Number: 451
To: ALL Date: 08/10/93 10:48p
Subj: NEW CD-SOUTHERN BEAUTIES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
********** Graphical Images of Florida, Inc. **********
Announces The NEW RELEASE of "Southern Beauties"
A FULLY COMMERCIAL - FULLY COPYRIGHTED DISC
675 Megs-OVER 65 Models-1000 GIFs 1024x768x256 From Original 35mm Slides
300 Megs of the Best Images in 24 bit True Color. Installs Quickly and
Easily - Menu Driven - User Friendly - Popup Help Menus - Mouse Support
Keyword Search - Sound Blaster Intro - Multiple Directory Slide Show
********** SOUTHERN BEAUTIES MAY NOT BE USED ON ANY BBS **********
To Order Contact: Tradeshows Inc. 317-651-9848 or 317-651-1223
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From: ZACHARY HAMM Number: 452
To: ALL Date: 08/10/93 12:35p
Subj: BSR TECH SUPPORT # Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anybody have the BSR Tech Support number for the BSR CD-ROM Drive
that DAK sold? DAK will not support it after 30 days.
Zack Hamm
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From: ROGER SMITH Number: 453
To: TIM HELTON Date: 08/10/93 3:43p
Subj: Kodak with sound Refer: NONE
Read: 08/13/93 7:49a Private: No
TH> I've heard that Kodak CD technology will soon include sound
TH> capability.... Info regarding this will be appreciated.
The Photo CD standard has included audio from the start - reference the demo CD
included with the players (which is quite boring) and the Photo CD included
with the book _From Alice to Ocean_ (which is not boring).
But, Kodak's supposed to be working on a way for those of use without CDROM
recorders to be able to add sound to our Photo CDs. From what I've read, they
are thinking of a kiosk into which you stick the Photo CD and tell the computer
to add music or record your voice for the pictures. The kiosks will also allow
you to print images from the Photo CD and to make custom post and greeting
cards with your images. Sounds neat, but I bet the kiosks will be too
expensive, so they won't be in every town.
-- Roger
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From: ROGER SMITH Number: 454
To: BETH CORRIGAN Date: 08/10/93 3:47p
Subj: kodak photo CD Refer: NONE
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BC> does anyone know how i can get photo cds made or where i can get them
BC> made. also if anyone has the phone # of kodak please post it! thanxs
BC> for any info!
Sam's Wholesale Club (in my area at least) will develop a 24-exposure roll of
color print film and put it on a Photo CD for $15. It takes about two weeks to
get the disc back. Adding individual frames from negatives to a Photo CD is 84
cents per frame.
The 1-800 number for Kodak is ... 1-800-242-2424. It's answered by one of those
voice-mail systems, but isn't as annoying as most. It didn't take me long to
get to a real person.
-- Roger
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From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 455
To: MICHAEL MULCAHY Date: 08/11/93 2:46p
Subj: Re: ENCYCLOPEDIA CD'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TB> I carry the 1992 21 volume Grolier"Academic
TB> America Encyclopedia" for
TB> $69. This is the best encyclopedia I have seen.
MM> Terry is this version MAC compatable?
Sorry, I don't know.
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From: TONY STOTT Number: 456
To: ANDREW BARFOOT Date: 08/10/93 2:56p
Subj: Echo Rules Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 07-31-93, Andrew Barfoot elucidated to Mike Lagamba:
AB>Also, may I ask our moderator. Who made up the rule that no more
AB>messages about sex or r/x-rated cd's shall "profane" this echo? Was it
AB>a matter that was discussed in detail at sysop meetings, or perhaps a
AB>flood of netmail (that no-one else was privy to), brought you to this
AB>decision?
AB> I have not seen one complaint reach the BBS I get these messages from.
Andrew,
1. You obviously missed my message, which followed a reference to kiddie
porn. Many others have agreed with the ban.
2. Bob Hall does not need any vote to change the rules, he calls the shots
3. Bob has suggested that others exercise their right of free speech by
starting their own adult cdrom echo. Sounds fair to me....
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From: SIMON MACKAY Number: 457
To: ALL Date: 08/08/93 3:55p
Subj: Pioneer CD-ROM changers Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Anyone out there owning a Pioneer CD-ROM changer - a DRM-600 or a DRM-604
series?
Do you need magazines (cartridges) for these drives?
If you do need magazines for these drives, check your local hi-fi dealer.
If they sell Pioneer CD changers (which play 6 CD Digital Audio discs from
a magazine) for home use or for car use, they should sell the magazines
for these players.
I have the Pioneer part numbers for these magazines, which suit the CD-ROM
drives.
- JD-M300 for 6 x 12cm discs
- JD-M308 for 6 x 8cm discs (very rare discs)
- JD-M300KP - 3 pack of JD-M300 magazines.
There are some third-party Pioneer-compatible CD changer magazines
around, made by some accessory manufacturers.
They will sell cheaper at hi-fi stores, and people who stock the CD-ROM
changers may not sell any of these spare magazines.
I hope this will be of interest to anyone who owns a Pioneer CD-ROM
changer.
Bye. Simon.
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From: ALAN SAWYER Number: 458
To: ALL Date: 08/06/93 6:41p
Subj: Thank you. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Instead of saying individual replies to everyone I will thank
everyone for helping me with 7th Guest.I got the patch and
checked everything out and I got a bit further but it kept crashing
so I took it back.Thank you all.
... MONEY TALKS ... but all mine ever says is GOODBYE!
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From: DON WEIR Number: 459
To: BRUCE BOWMAN Date: 08/09/93 5:06p
Subj: Re: CD-ROMs and DESQview Refer: NONE
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DS> I just bought a new MPC Sound Blaster CD-ROM
DS> drive and tried running
DS> the CD-player in a DESQview environment. I'm currently using
DS> QEMM-386 as my memory manager.
Here's the good news -
I have the MPC SoundBlaster Pro, CD Rom Drive, Qemm 7.01 AND DVX
and have no difficulties playing CDs IF I use the CD PLayer s/w that comes with
the Deluxe version of Blaster MAster 5.7.
I also live in Australia and by the sea - maybe that helps too!
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From: DON WEIR Number: 460
To: ANDREW BARFOOT Date: 08/09/93 5:14p
Subj: 7'th Guest Won't Run! ! ! Refer: NONE
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ST> I just bought the 7'th Guest and it lloks pretty good. It would
ST> be better if I could get it to run. I start it up and it goes
ST> through the opening credits, it then goes into the book with the
ST> pictures on each page. It animates the picture and talks and then
ST> turns the page. Well my problem is that it hangs the system at
ST> different places in this opening scene.
I have overcome much the same by using - T7GFIX.ZIP - which should be
available on some bbs's. In the meantime try using the MCGA mode.
The fix file BTW is on Night Owls 9 as well as hints and cheats...
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 461
To: POE LIM Date: 08/10/93 7:15p
Subj: Pas16 Refer: NONE
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Hi Poe!
On 08-08-93 Poe Lim wrote to Rowan Evans...
PL> I've been hearing talk of a new card
PL> coming out RSN, so it's difficult to know whether to buy
PL> now, or wait for the new card using the new Yamaha chip
PL> that supposedly integrates MIDI.
Yeah, well, I'd like the Wave Blaster add-on for Wave Table synthesis....
PL> RE> The machine with PAS 16/NEC CDU-55 gave 300Kbps throughput, the
PL> RE> machine with SB 16 ASP/CR563 gave 584Kbps....
PL>
PL> Sounds like nothing to recommend the Sony then, although it
PL> could also be better interface. :)
Well, the SONY CDU-31A combo is only a single speed drive, limited to
150Kbps... I got sucked in 8 months ago... I thought that all PAS's
had SCSI and was thus anticipating upgrading the CD-ROM at a later
date.... For all that, the SONY's a nice drive, its just not fast
enough for me!
PL> Is T7G really as good as reports say it is?
I saw it and was almost impressed enough to buy it for $A129.00 which
was the going price in a local computer store.... Another guy at
work has said that he's seen ads with it as low as $A80.00 (but he
couldn't remember where!)... At that price, I'd buy it, even though
I,m not really an adventure/puzzle freak!
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 462
To: DAVID CALVIN Date: 08/10/93 7:50p
Subj: Scsi Cdrom Refer: NONE
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Hi David!
On 08-07-93 David Calvin wrote to William Morse...
DC> WM>hello i have 7thguest and love it it worked after 3 days of work
DC> WM>fixing the setup of autoexec.bat and config
DC>
DC> I'm thinking of getting 7th Guest soon, what did you have to do to get
DC> it to work? I'd like to be playing it in under 3 days from when I buy
DC> it! :)
T7G appears to be one of those games that loves to get down close to
the hardware! With this being the case, it can vary from being a snap
to setup to being a bear! I tried on two machines (a mate brought it
over for a "show & tell") with the following specs :-
AST Premmia 4/33s
80486SX, 8Mb RAM, 1Mb ATI integrated Mach 32 SVGA, 170Mb Quantum
IDE HDD, SoundBlaster 16 ASP & Panasonic CR563 CD-ROM drive....
T7G install rating 100% optimal on both video & CD-ROM..... (Tfr
rate on CD-ROm noted as 584Kbps!).... Played *FLAWLESSLY*....
(although I did note a minor problem with the sound "breaking up"
as it came out of the speakers)
AST Bravo 4/33s
80486SX, 8Mb RAM, 1Mb WD90C31 SVGA, 120Mb Quantum IDE HDD,
Pro Audio Spectrum (SCSI) & NEC CDR-55 CD-ROM drive....
T7G install rating 100% optimal on CD-ROM, but ony 80% or so
optimal on video..... (Tfr rate on CD-ROm noted as 300Kbps)....
Played *FLAWLESSLY*....
Both setups took no longer than the time it took to load the CD-ROM, log
to the CD-ROM and run INSTALL. (OOps.. forgot had to take network drivers
out of one machine's CONFIG... So shoot me!)
If your setup's anywhere near either of these, you should have no problems
installing either!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 463
To: ALASTAIR EDGINGTON Date: 08/10/93 7:57p
Subj: WINDOWS NT and Soundblas Refer: NONE
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Hi Alastair!
On 08-07-93 Alastair Edgington wrote to All...
AE> I'm in desperate need of a WINDOWS NT compatible
AE> SoundBlaster Pro CD-ROM driver.
AE>
AE> MSCDEX works fine, and is included with NT, but SBPCD.sys
AE> (or whateva it's called) will not work, even when running a
AE> MS-DOS shell.
AE>
AE> If anybody has a driver, or on any ideas of where to look
AE> for such a driver, i'd love to hear from you.
Creative Pacific's BBS (02) 906-8392 has a BETA NT driver for the
SoundBlaster Pro/16/16 ASP with a CR562B/CR563 CD-ROM drive (the new
double speed one)....
I have tested it and found that it works fine as documented......
If you have a CR52x series CD-ROM (the caddy type).... I don't know
if it'll work ( I say this because you specified SBPCD.SYS... the
CR562B/CR563 required SBCD.SYS!).....
Hope this helps!
o
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From: SEAN TUDOR Number: 464
To: STEPHEN HARRINGTON Date: 08/10/93 4:30p
Subj: Panasonic CD-ROM drive. Refer: NONE
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Hi Stephen,
Regarding your message about the CD-ROM drive - what model have you got
and where did you purchase it ?
I would certainly be interested as I already have a Sound Blaster 16
and would like a CD-ROM drive that connects direct throught the sound card -
especially if it is only $400 new.
Thanks,
Sean.
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From: DEAN MACKIN Number: 465
To: ALL Date: 08/11/93 1:17a
Subj: drm600 or 604's Refer: NONE
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Hi There.
Can someone tell me what the best price they have seen 600 or 604x's for?
Also, does anybosy know of a CD ROM disc wholesaler or distributor as I wish
to purchase for resale.
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║Regards -= Dino =-║
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From: JOHN HILVERT Number: 466
To: JOHN SERRANO Date: 08/09/93 4:39p
Subj: RE: LOOM ON CD Refer: NONE
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JS> notably LucasArts "Loom." It's a great game, but the only problem is
JS> that I need a hint on how to get out of a sticky situation.
JS> You see, I've made it as far as the foundry-I'm in it, but since
JS> the person with whom I've exchanged identies died (meaning I no longer
JS> look like him), I'm basically stuck inside, listening to the
JS> conversation between the foreman and the Bishop, as well as the
JS> incessant pounding by Edgewise:)
When Edgewise holds up the sword use the twisting spell from the
tornado on the sword.
... Not tonight, dear. I have a modem.
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From: FINN HARDER Number: 467
To: ALL Date: 08/10/93 12:28p
Subj: Remote access to CD-Roms Refer: NONE
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Hello All!
I have a question. Is it possible to set up a cd-rom for remote access?
It should preferably be something like a bbs, in that access should be by
arrangement and password protected. Also a log should be keept.
Any information and ideas would be welcomed.
Finn Harder
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From: MARK DIGNAM Number: 468
To: TERRY WOODWARD Date: 08/08/93 11:53a
Subj: Cd Rom mastering... Refer: NONE
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Terry Woodward of [1:369/14] once typed in a message to someone:
TW>I did read the review. The Pinnacle unit isn't the best (which is
TW>probably why Phillips let the design go and choose the CDD one-off) but
TW>it *does* work and it's semi-cheap. My choice would be the Phillips but
TW>there's no software to burn an HFS format disk. Most likely, I won't buy
TW>either one. I'll probably look for a one-off house that can do Mac
TW>tapes.
I can produce HFS disks on a Philips CDD521 CdRom Recorder. Its quite easy -
when you write your own software. Mind you, I do it on a PC based platform.
ps: Having a Novell fileserver with Mac support and name space is the key.
Mark..
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From: DARON HARVEY Number: 469
To: ALL Date: 08/09/93 9:18p
Subj: C.D.Rom Purchase Refer: NONE
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I am currently running a 386dx40 with 200mb Hdd.In the near future I
will be purchasing a C.D Rom unit could
somebody tell me the best options to choose when purchasing a C.D.Rom
and what are the pitfalls to look out for
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From: GREG CHAPMAN Number: 470
To: CHRIS FLYNN Date: 08/05/93 3:52p
Subj: Cover CD Refer: NONE
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HI Chris
Re: PC Magazine UK Edition August 1993 PC Magazine Utilities
> No, just the executables.
> Lot of rubbish on the disc too.
Ah Well, shan't buy it! I'm out of this echo. Any further replies will have
to be netmail...
Thanks
Greg
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From: RICHARD MAYCOCK Number: 471
To: CARLOS BENITZ Date: 08/06/93 6:42p
Subj: Re: Best CDROM List Refer: NONE
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RM>If people have got a CD that they are VERY happy with, either because
RM>it's first class value for money or because it's so good it's worth
RM>having at almost any price, then why not send me a brief (300 words?)
RM>review of it?
CB> You only want reviews which glow with praise?
In short, yes.
Because..... I'm sure that there is a ton of garbage for every ounce of
gold. What I would like to do is assemble a list of recommended CDs,
ones that represent the very best in their class, which I would
periodically post back into the echo.
I think that that would be of greater value to more people, and would
not (unfortunately) be so long as to clutter the echo.
At this point it all looks a bit academic, I'm afraid, because yours' is
the only reply I've had on the subject.
All the best,
Richard Maycock
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From: GRAHAM MURPHY Number: 472
To: JOHN WOLF Date: 08/06/93 4:11p
Subj: SBPro CD ROM Drives Refer: NONE
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In a message originally to All, John Wolf said:
JW> I have heard that
JW> there is a new double spin style drive available for the SBPro have been
JW> looking for model numbers, specs and possible sources for the drive.
JW> If anyone knows anything about this drive please leave me a message.
Hiya John!
The Drive you're talking about is the Panasonic CR-562-B
Specs go like this :-
Data Transfer Rate
Sequential (NV Mode) 150Kb/s(mode 1)
Sequential (DV Mode) 300Kb/s(mode 1)
From Buffer 2.3Mb/s
Random access time (NV Mode) 380ms typical
Random access time (DV Mode) 320ms typical
Fullstroke access time (NV Mode) 660ms typical
Fullstroke access time (DV Mode) 640ms typical
Buffer size 64Kb
MTBF 25000POH
Soft read errors less than 10E-9
Hard read errors less than 10E-12
Graham
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From: NICHOLAS WILLIAMS Number: 473
To: DAVID ELEF Date: 08/07/93 6:50p
Subj: Problem!!! Refer: NONE
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Hello David!
Wednesday July 28 1993 20:19, David Elef wrote to All:
DE> (In the Kit came a Sound Blaster Pro 2 stereo card) I tried changing the
DE> DE> windows drivers for the card around but alas 16-bit sound was not an
DE> DE> option. I have racked my brain and tried changing the drivers around
DE> so DE> many times I cant count.
You can't. The SB Pro is an 8bit sound card, not capable of 16bit record or
playback... you need a SoundBlaster 16 Pro ASP...
Nicholas
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From: RICHARD LENOIR Number: 474
To: ALL Date: 08/07/93 12:34a
Subj: mitsumi Refer: NONE
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Hello all,
I would like to get in touch with the MITSUMI people.
Could someone let me know the complete adress and/or
fax number of MITSUMI.
Thank you much.
Richard
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From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 475
To: TOM MILLER Date: 08/07/93 10:59a
Subj: Re: Cd-rom Help! Refer: NONE
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To: Tom
By: RAVER
On: Saturday August 07 1993 at 10:59
Friday July 30 1993, Tom Miller writes to David Calvin:
TM> Virtually all new cd drives will work with the various types of cds.
TM> The latest Mitsumi is compatable with all of them. A lot of people who
Sorry, is the LU-005S the latest Mitsumi drive?
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From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 476
To: ALL Date: 08/07/93 11:10a
Subj: MITSUMI CD's Refer: NONE
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To: All
By: RAVER
On: Saturday August 07 1993 at 11:10
Hi, does anyone know what software (if any) comes with the LU-005S ? Thanx.
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From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 477
To: ALL Date: 08/07/93 11:12a
Subj: Windows Drivers. Refer: NONE
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To: All
By: RAVER
On: Saturday August 07 1993 at 11:12
Hi all,
Does anyone know how to configure the MIDI in Win 3.1 to play with a SBPRO?
Mine plays all weird both windows and Voyetra Sequencer Plus Pro MIDI files.
THNX.
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From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 478
To: JANUSZ SUROWKA Date: 08/07/93 11:16a
Subj: Re: New Mpc Specs Refer: NONE
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To: Janusz
By: RAVER
On: Saturday August 07 1993 at 11:16
Thursday July 29 1993, Janusz Surowka writes to Rowan Evans:
JS> That's Bull__it about that 486 25, when some 386DX-33's and DX-40's
JS> are faster than some 486 25's
True, I have a 386DX/40 AMD and its faster than my friend's 486/25 (SI told me)
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From: ALAN WILLIAMS Number: 479
To: DAVID CALVIN Date: 08/07/93 11:19a
Subj: HELP! Refer: NONE
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-> Just as I thought I was all set to get a CD-ROM drive, I hear that
-> you have to plug something into your sound card from the CD-ROM drive
-> (not the SCSI). I planned to get a kit because my sound card, ATI's
-> Stereo F/X does not have an SCSI, but I hear that you have to plug
-> into an audio output or something? Is this necessary? My card is
-> fully SB compatible. If I do have to get a new card, what should I
-> get, SB Pro? Thanks for the help!
No big deal, you just need an interface cable that goes between the
CDROM drive and the audio input port on the sound card. Generally the
sound card comes with the necessary interface cable, but you may receive
a cable with the CDROM drive as well.
At any rate, you can purchase such cables from the open market without
great expense.
Cheers,
Al
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From: ALAN WILLIAMS Number: 480
To: TYRONE ROSSOW Date: 08/07/93 11:19a
Subj: HELP!? SOUNDBLASTER CDROM Refer: NONE
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-> when it boots up, it runs a program called "MSCDEX /d:mscd001 /l:e"
-> then says it cant find the CDROM driver called "mscd001"... I guess
-> that means I dont have it anymore. Can anyone shed some light on
-> this to me? Please? I would be most greatful... I cant find this
-> driver on ANY of the installation disks, and am wondering how on
-> earth it got onto the system in the first place.
If you look in your config.sys file, you should find the line that
initializes your CDROM drive. For instance on my system, I have a NEC
CDR84J and use the ASW driver set. My sound card is a ProAudio
Spectrum 16. In my CONFIG.SYS file I have the following lines.
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\ASW410\ASWCDNEC.SYS /D:ASPICD0
^^^^^^^
This is the name assigned to my CDROM drive.
rem added ( 6/16/93) by Media Vision Installation
DEVICE=c:\qemm\loadhi.sys /r:2 c:\proaudio\mvsound.sys d:3 q:7
s:1,220,1,5 m:0 j:1
This is the basic sound card installation
rem added ( 6/16/93) by Media Vision Installation
rem device=c:\proaudio\tslcdr.sys /d:aspicd0 /w3
If I were using the CDROM controller built into the PAS 16 sound card, I
would have left this line enabled. Since I'm not (the controller is
incorporated into my motherboard), I comment out the line. When the PAS
16 installation program sets itself up, it inserts this line, generally
with the driver name "mscd001"
In my AUTOEXEC.BAT file I have the following lines:
set blaster=A220 D1 I5 T3
This sets sound blaster compatibility for my system.
c:\qemm\loadhi /r:2 C:\dos\MSCDEX /D:ASPICD0 /l:D /m:16 /v /e
^^^^^^^
Here, again, is the name of the CDROM
This loads the MSCDEX driver (I use DOS 6 and QEMM 7). Note that many
CDROMs install a separate MSCDEX driver in their own directory. Many
folks have had problems with these items. If you encounter a
difficulty, use the DOS MSCDEX driver.
Hope this helps you resolve the situation.
Best regards,
Al
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From: ANTON SWART Number: 481
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/09/93 9:14p
Subj: Red hot lot... Refer: NONE
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Hiya
Firstly where in the world r u?
ok..
Iam here in south africa and i wanna but some of your cd-rom disk.. is your
red hot specials still valid?
So...
i would like: Night Owl 9.0 and Kings Quest 6
and maybe either: Pier2 or 5 star premium. Which is better bout
the last two. OR some GOOD shareware games REAL GOOD ones!!!
ok thanx.
Can u send me an order form or sumething ? thru echo? and its alright 2 pay
with mastercard right?
thanx.
really interested!
cheers
anton
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From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 482
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/08/93 8:00a
Subj: Re: catalog via email? Refer: NONE
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To: Boris
By: RAVER
On: Sunday August 08 1993 at 08:00
Sunday August 01 1993, Eric Vaneberck writes to Boris Osadciw:
EV> Bonjour Boris,
BO>>> Give us your fido address and we'll shoot over a copy.
BO>>> Our TOTALLY NEW catalogue should be ready soon, so send me your
BO>>> proper mailing address as well and we'll mail you a copy.
EV> 2:291/712.107
Any chances of E-Mailing a copy to me as well? 5:7211/1.78. Pretty Please?
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From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 483
To: DAVID CALVIN Date: 08/08/93 8:03a
Subj: Re: Cd-rom Help! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
To: David
By: RAVER
On: Sunday August 08 1993 at 08:03
Saturday July 31 1993, David Calvin writes to Tim Moran:
DC> Glad to talk to someone that actually has the drive! I'll have a
DC> 486dx2/66 by the time I get it, so power is no problem. Could you
DC> answer one more question for me please? I hear some CD-ROMs (maybe
DC> all) have some kinda plug into the sound card (not an SCSI, something
DC> else). Does the Mitsumi? My ATI Stereo F/X (SB compatible) card has
DC> no place to plug anything in. Thanks for the help!
DC> ... Help me I've fallen and... Hmm, actually it's quite comfy down
DC> here.
i'M SORRY BUT i SEEM TO HAVE MISSED THE START OF THIS THREAD...WHAT MODEL OF
MITSUMI IS THIS? THE LU-005S PERHAPS? (OOPS, I FORgot the caps on!).
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From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 484
To: STEPHEN EATON Date: 08/08/93 8:09a
Subj: Re: CD-Rom Problems Refer: NONE
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To: Stephen
By: RAVER
On: Sunday August 08 1993 at 08:09
Saturday July 31 1993, Stephen Eaton writes to All:
SE> I'm been having a problem with my CDRom Drive, a Panasonic,
SE> ever since I installed Dos 6.
SE> The problem is that it won't detect a disk change. So I have
SE> to reboot every time I want to change a disk, talk about a pain :-(
SE> Does anyone have Ideas ????
Well, judging from the load of trouble DOS6 has been causing worldwide, you
could always go back to DOS5, like I did. Just a suggestion.
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From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 485
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 08/08/93 8:11a
Subj: Re: New Mpc Specs Refer: NONE
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To: Leslie
By: RAVER
On: Sunday August 08 1993 at 08:11
Sunday August 01 1993, Leslie Rhorer writes to Sunny Leung:
RE>> Processor :- 25Mhz 80486
RE>> RAM :- 4Mb minimum
RE>> Video :- 640 x 480 x 65,535 colours
SL>> (1Mb SVGA card!)
RE>> CD-ROM :- 300Kbps (I forget the avg access time!)
RE>> Hard Drive :- 170Mb minimum Sound Card :-
RE>> MUST have 16 bit DAC and 16 bit ADC - I
RE>> disremember the record/playback
SL>> It would be a rare person to have a computer with these specs!
SL>> Especially the CD-ROM/Sound Card combo.
LR> Not at all. All the new CD-ROM drives are "double speed", and
LR> some are quad speed (600Kbps), and the new sound cards are all 16 bit.
Yes, well. They are availiable if that's what you mean, but they sure aren't
that AFFORDABLE, are they? By the way,what's that about 640*480*65,535 cols? A
SVGA card is still 256 or am I confused here?
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From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 486
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 08/08/93 8:15a
Subj: Re: New Mpc Specs Refer: NONE
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To: Leslie
By: RAVER
On: Sunday August 08 1993 at 08:15
Sunday August 01 1993, Leslie Rhorer writes to Mike Guidry:
MG>> I think it'll take awhile for anyone to write mass market
MG>> software targeted for MPC2 systems. It would be a very limited
MG>> market.
LR> Don't bet on it. Three years ago, 486's were a "very limited
LR> market". Five years ago, 386's were a "very limited market".
You're right on that, Les. But still, the massive selling of 386s only came
around when the prices were lowered ie 386s sold best when 486s came around!
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From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 487
To: MIKE GUIDRY Date: 08/08/93 8:24a
Subj: Re: New Mpc Specs Refer: NONE
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To: Mike
By: RAVER
On: Sunday August 08 1993 at 08:24
Monday August 02 1993, Mike Guidry writes to Leslie Rhorer:
MG> I say buy the $200 drive now. Use it for a year or so until the
MG> MPC2 drives are $200, then get one.
I'm with you, Mike! Infact I'l go 4 the LU-005S.
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 488
To: MARK WOMACK Date: 08/10/93 8:04a
Subj: Cd-rom Help! Refer: NONE
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-> I have the Mitsumi drive and you must load 2 files: The .SYS file in
-> your config.sys and the MSCDEX in your autoexec.bat. Combined they
-> take around 40K and that's with NO buffers. They say in the manual t
-> increase your buffers for better performance. If you increase the
-> buffer on the MSCDEX to 64 (the maximum), it hits a whopping 144K
-> just for that file alone.
-> For the life of me, I can't get the .SYS file to load in high memory.
-> I use QEMM but even went as far as to install 386MAX on my system.
-> Neither will let me load the file high - both lock up my system when
-> they boot. I've rebooted about 500 times over this and just gave up.
-> Anyone else not able to load the .SYS file high?
I have, it took some jugling around. I can't use my emm386.exe for EMS
though. I have dos5 and I got them both high.
from what i understand, the buffers are on the .sys file.
In the setup I set mine for 64buffers and then /x to use XMS memory.
MSCDEX had plenty of room, but is picky about how it will load.
I finally had to put ansi.sys low, noems (page frame eats upper memory)
and it seems to work okay. I have to use a boot disk to play a lot of
games since I have about 600k left. You just need to jugle things
around.
I started about 8:00pm and finished wel after midnight...
Being only 17 I WAS TIRED!!!!
hope this helps a bit,
Henry
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 489
To: STEWART ROTHMAN Date: 08/10/93 12:53p
Subj: Re: PRO AUDIO OR SOUNDBLA Refer: NONE
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-> I live in Fairbanks, Alaska, about 12 miles North of North Pole, Alas
-> and in the summer when it's 80 above and warmer, molasses runs very
-> well and fast. In winter when it's 50 or 60 below, it won't run at al
-> so nothing could be slower as it's standing still.... rigidly!!!!
->
-> Incidently, I also have a PAS 16 card in my 386-33 Northgate Elegance
-> system and my External Toshiba T3401B that is plugged into it's SCSI
-> runs very fast and efficient in BOTH winter and summer!!!!!!!!!
-> At times I forget I'm using a 200 ms access drive as it appears to be
-> as fast as my 15 ms access time Hard Drive. I know that's not possibi
-> and it isn't, it just appears so. From your answer to the person who
My dad used to live in Alaska when he was in the army, and when ever we
make a crack at the weather he says, "Yes, but only in the winter... It
gets VERY hot and muggy in the summer"..
Anyway, to keep this on topic... I have a 350ms Mitsumi drive, and man
is it fast! Everybody tells me how slow they are but I know for myself.
I'm not running it through my sound card. (ATI STEREO F/X)
Doesn't support it, and I don't care!
The only thing about the Mitsumi I don't like is the BIG drivers!
They use over 40k in UMB space and then the one uses XMS for buffer
space. Anyhow, I was wondering if SCSI drives have smaller drivers.
If it is under 40k for the driver and MSCDEX?
Just want to compare notes.. :)
later,
Henry
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 490
To: ALL Date: 08/10/93 5:19p
Subj: Mitsumi CD-ROM & MSCDEX Refer: NONE
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Someone asked me I think if I had my drivers loaded high.
Well, I did at the expense of no EMS. Until now that is.
On the MTMCDE.sys file, you need to add the /x so it will use XMS
memory. This will let you use 64 buffers too.
Next, add /e just after MSCDEX.exe like so: MSCDEX.exe /e /d:mscd001
etc...
This will allow it to use EMS memory AND also 64 buffers specified by
/m:64. Default is /m:10, not to be confused with /m:10 in the MTMCDE.sys
file.
It should mention these files in the manuals... However, the /e function
is NOT mentioned in the installation program.
Most anybody should be able to do this, 'cause I am using dos5 for my
memory managers :)
You guys with QEMM386 and 386MAX should have no trouble at all :)
Just thought I'd pass the buck, there seems to be plenty of people with
Mitsumi drives... We ought to start a Mitsumi conference... :)
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From: CHARLES SHRADER Number: 491
To: ALL Date: 08/10/93 2:55p
Subj: Re: Os/2 mitsumi driver Refer: NONE
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SB@> cossette, I ordered the driver got the disk and the only way to get
SB@> ahold of him is by CompuServe. there was no address on any of the docs.
SB@> and of course I tossed out the address that I had once read in an echo.
SB@>
SB@> better yet does anyone know of a good Mitsumi Driver for OS/2 that
SB@> allows you to access the CDROM from an OS/2 Session not just DOS???
SB@>
SB@> Thanks, Scott.
SB@> -!- Maximus/2 2.01wb
SB@> ! Origin: *NETWORK/23 WINNIPEG,MB (204) 275-1532 5/LINES* (1:348/501)
Scott;
Try:
Systems Integration Technoiogies, Inc.
1280 South Powerline Road
Suite 171
Pompano Beach, FL 33069
Cost: $10.00
UPS Ground $4.95
UPS Blue $6.95
I got it, and it works fine. No MM or audio support at this time, but that
is better than using the VDM.
Take care,
Chuck
... Blue Wave - World Tour - 1993
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From: TIM MORAN Number: 492
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/10/93 2:55p
Subj: RED HOT SUMMER Refer: NONE
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In a message to Tim Moran <08-03-93 01:46> Boris Osadciw wrote:
BO> PID: SX V3.02/4.01H1G01
BO> >> Do you have OS/2 2.1 on CD?
BO>
BO> On it's way in here !!!
Do you have a price idea?
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From: BRUCE BOWMAN Number: 493
To: DAVID BERNARD Date: 08/10/93 2:56p
Subj: Re: CD-ROMs and DESQview Refer: NONE
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In a message to Dave Summers <08-07-93 13:02> David Bernard wrote:
DB> I use QEMM-386 too and after getting one of the DAK drives to run
DB> fine in DOS it blew up in DV every time.
I also have one of these DAK CD-ROMs, and am experiencing the same problem.
The installation guide was of little help; they just said to run the install
program and it set up my CD-ROM as drive >S<! I do have 6 drives on my system,
but S?
Not knowing any of the MSCDEX command switches at the time, I was at a loss
for a couple of weeks until someone more "in the know" told me what all the
MSCDEX switches meant.
DB> it set it up and read my DOS area and problem I finally figured out
DB> the card was set to use IRQ 3 and while I was in DOS itself and I the
DB> CD-ROM I was not using my modem on Comm 2 that also was on IRQ 3.
Thank you very much -- this is probably the problem, although it will also
bomb even if I'm not using the modem. Go figure. Anyway, although I know
this wasn't addressed to me, it really does give me a starting point! I'll let
you know how it works.
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From: JUERGEN WERNER Number: 494
To: CHRIS CONKLIN Date: 08/10/93 2:56p
Subj: Re: Free Catalog Refer: NONE
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Please send me your catalog
my adress
Jürgen Werner
Westring 51
D-44787 Bochum
Germany
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From: JUERGEN WERNER Number: 495
To: DON RIEB Date: 08/10/93 2:56p
Subj: Re: FREE CDROM Catalog. Refer: NONE
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please send me your catalog
my adress
Jürgen Werner
westring 51
D-44787 Bochum
Germany
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From: CHRIS ROBINSON Number: 496
To: ALL Date: 08/10/93 2:58p
Subj: 16 bit cards Refer: NONE
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I am preparing to buy a 16 bit sound card soon. What do all you users
recommend ??? I am cuurently trying to decide what the good and bad
points are for the PAS16 and the SB16 ASP. Any suggestions?? I plan on
adding a double speed drive in the near future. How do these sound cards
hook up to the cd-rom drive and does one card have better features to
accomodate the cd-rom drive over the other? Please help if you can.
THANKS !!! CR
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From: TYRONE THOMASON Number: 497
To: CHRIS CONKLIN Date: 08/10/93 2:58p
Subj: Free Catalog Refer: NONE
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CC>C-3 Production Systems (Owmer: Chris Conklin)
CC>PO Box 60144
CC>San Angelo, Tx
CC> 76904
CC>915-944-7187
Chris, Please send a copy of your catalog to: Tyrone Thomason
111 Whitehead Circle
Warner Robins, GA
31098-1040
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From: GIANG NGUYEN Number: 498
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/10/93 2:58p
Subj: Re: W.O.R.M. DRIVES Refer: NONE
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This is VERY interesting. $369 for aWORM drive? Were you misstype?.....is this
machine new or used?.....How many do you have left?
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From: MARK THORNTON Number: 499
To: ALL Date: 08/10/93 2:58p
Subj: Catalog Refer: NONE
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If anyone has any CD catalog's would you please post a message where i can
pick one up thanks......
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From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 500
To: ALL Date: 08/10/93 2:58p
Subj: $99 cd rom drives Refer: NONE
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Special.... for 1 week I'm offering used Hitachi 3500 internal cd rom drives
for $99. I have about 20 left. 30 day warranty included. 205-824-2552
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From: ALAN MCCREADY Number: 501
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/10/93 2:58p
Subj: PAS16/TEXEL 3024 Refer: NONE
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Boris, What is the upgrade kit? I bought a SCSI cable and the drivers Trantor
and MSCDEX are included with the PAS16 board. Do I still need something
else? If I need this upgrade kit how much is it?
thanks Alan
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From: ROY COCHRUN Number: 502
To: MARK WOMACK Date: 08/10/93 2:58p
Subj: Re: CD-rom help! Refer: NONE
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You> I can't get the .SYS file to load in high memory.
...
There is a new version of the Mitsumi driver out. Using QEMM, it will
load fine. Also, use the /X switch. You can find the driver on the
QEMM BBS, 1-310-314-3227, free to registered users. I think the driver
also is on the Creative Labs BBS, 1-408-428-6664. Now, if someone
could please figure out my problem, obviously with memory...
My new 486/33 board gives me a conflict, whereby if I load up
everything, my SB-Pro stops working, as do my A: and B: drives. If I
don't load MSCDEX.EXE, I get my SB-Pro and floppies. Now comes the fun
part: If I do a DIR on my CD-ROM drive (Drive O: in my case), two
times! I can then access the SB-Pro and floppies. I also can access my
CD-ROM. Now, if I switch to the CD-ROM and try to play a .VOC file on
it (for example), the machine locks up. It is obviously a memory
problem (I've tried all the different settings on the Mitsumi, but the
same problem occurs, regardless). I haven't a clue what is causing the
problem. I've even tried using the software .SYS driver, and it
doesn't work either. My new motherboard is using the new Cyrix chip.
Advice appreciated, from anyone. -- regards, Roy Cochrun
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From: SHAWN RUTLEDGE Number: 503
To: GLENN SANDERSE Date: 08/10/93 2:58p
Subj: Cd writing service Refer: NONE
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GS>If you want a standardized method of putting non-formatted text onto
GS>check out Dataware software for the Philips CD recorder and soon for
GS>Ricoh CD recorder. A soon to be released version of their software, u
GS>CD-I (by Philips) players will have a standardized text formatting
GS>structure that will you allow to view text with a machine you connect
GS>TV.
And how would I get in contact with this company (makers of Dataware)?
GS>the Ricoh, the data stream does not have to be continuous. The JVC
Sounds like that's the one to have. I always thought that continuous
data stream requirement was kind of impractical.
GS>Converting information from paper format, etc. as you envisioned is
GS>impractical due to copyright problems and the expense of actually doi
GS>the conversion.
In general you're probably right; but for a private collection, it's
just a lot of time involved. I wouldn't want to undertake too big a
stack of magazines without some kind of robot to flip the pages and some
automated software that can detect pictures, separate them out, OCR the
text, run the spell checker, etc. automatically.
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From: ALAN EDWARDS Number: 504
To: NICHOLAS GOLDWYN Date: 08/10/93 3:01p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Drives?? Refer: NONE
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MS> It makes me continually wonder why so many of these drives are being
MS> sold, when they have this apparent design flaw??? I mean, when the
Does this mean there is something major wrong with the Mitsumi drives?
Thanks to my mail packets getting screwed, I missed the beginning of this,
but I am interested because I am considering buying a Mitsumi drive.
Alan.
... Sorry, the Dog ate my Blue Wave packet.
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From: NICK PETKOVICH Number: 505
To: NICHOLAS GOLDWYN Date: 08/10/93 3:01p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Drives?? Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Nicholas Goldwyn to Mike Shannon <=-
NG> The Mitsumi drives are much cheaper than any others - Pds 139 in the
NG> UK that's at least Pds 100 less than the next best priced. They are
NG> also Multi-Session Photo CD compatible, unlike many other budget
NG> drives.
100 Pounds!! Who are you trying to kid, I can get SCSI CD-ROM drives
for 175+vat. (Or maybe even less)
<< Nick >>
... PLEASE USE OTHER DOOR
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From: JOSE GIMENEZ Number: 506
To: LAURIE BATT Date: 08/10/93 3:01p
Subj: Re: Night Owls V9 Refer: NONE
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> I have Night Owls 9 for $60 AUST
> can be sent +COD/Post
Yes... I'm interesting on your CD... Night Owls...9...
Can you send me one.!!
My english is very bad!! Can you respond me by NEtmail on 2:340/3.2 ??
Thanks!!
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 507
To: ALL Date: 08/10/93 3:01p
Subj: Mitsumi Support Refer: NONE
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Mistumi Electric Co.
Dallas Office:
6210 N. Beltline Rd. Ste. 320
Irving, TX
Tel: 214-550-7300
FAX: 214-550-7424
NY
35 Pinelwan Rd.
Melville, NY 11747
Tel: 516-752-7730
FAX: 516-752-7490
Chicago
2101 Arlington Heights Rd.
Arlington Heights, IL 60005
Tel: 708-593-7600
Fax: 708-593-7610
Santa Clara
4655 Old Ironsides Dr. Ste. 130
Santa Clara, CA 95040
Tel: 408-970-0700
Fax: 408-727-5337
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 508
To: ALL Date: 08/10/93 3:01p
Subj: So Much Shareware III Refer: NONE
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So Much Shareware III $21
Yes, we are selling Night Owl's 9 also for the same price. We also have
hundreds of other titles in stock. For a catalog FREQ CATALOG from 1:138/116 or
1:138/120
GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400 or 1-800-373-0628
1-206-473-1634 or 1-800-277-5179 FAX
All major credit cards accepted
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 509
To: ALL Date: 08/10/93 3:01p
Subj: Liquadation Discs Refer: NONE
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CD PowerBox $12
CD Winbox $12
Night Owl's v.9 $21
GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400
1-206-473-1634 FAX
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 510
To: ALL Date: 08/10/93 3:01p
Subj: Walnut Creek Releases Refer: NONE
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We now have Giga Games in stock!..
Also CICA Windows will be updated next week. We do carry entire line of Walnut
Creek.
GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400
1-206-473-1634 FAX
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From: STEWART ROTHMAN Number: 511
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/10/93 3:01p
Subj: Re: PRO AUDIO OR SOUNDBLAST? Refer: NONE
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>RE> You forgot to add that the PAS 16 SCSI port is slower than a
>RE> molasses drip at the North Pole!
>
Sorry Rowan, but you're using a very wrong example......
I live in Fairbanks, Alaska, about 12 miles North of North Pole, Alaska
and in the summer when it's 80 above and warmer, molasses runs very
well and fast. In winter when it's 50 or 60 below, it won't run at all,
so nothing could be slower as it's standing still.... rigidly!!!!
Incidently, I also have a PAS 16 card in my 386-33 Northgate Elegance
system and my External Toshiba T3401B that is plugged into it's SCSI Port
runs very fast and efficient in BOTH winter and summer!!!!!!!!!
At times I forget I'm using a 200 ms access drive as it appears to be
as fast as my 15 ms access time Hard Drive. I know that's not possibile
and it isn't, it just appears so. From your answer to the person who
was commenting on it, it's obvious that you've never used a 3401B
plugged into a PAS 16 SCSI card!!!!
I've never used a SOUNDBLAST, but if it's faster than the PAS 16,
it must be greased lightning through salt air!!!!!!
;-}
Stu
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From: ATSON NAKAYAMA Number: 512
To: ALL Date: 08/10/93 3:01p
Subj: General Midi Cdroms Refer: NONE
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I am looking for cdroms that have General Midi files on them. Vendor must
be able to ship to Tokyo, Japan. Please reply with full price including
shipping and handling.
Thanks.
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From: BARRY GRINTER Number: 513
To: GREG SORCSEK Date: 08/10/93 3:01p
Subj: MSCDEX/Drivers Refer: NONE
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Greg,
Quoting from my CD drive manual,"MSCDEX is an executable program for MS-DOS 3.1
or higher that works in conjunction with the device driver (for your particular
drive) to allow your computer to access CD-ROM disk in the drive as if they
were MS-DOS formatted disks." This program is required because CD-ROM discs
are formatted in one of 3 or 4 different 'standard' formats, none of which is
understandable by DOS. 'Reader' programs that are supplied with different
CD-ROM titles may be able to read the disc directly, and do not require MSCDEX,
but if you want to use discs full of shareware, pictures, etc. then you need
this program. It is available from Microsoft directly, or from almost any BBS.
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From: CORRY MACFARLANE Number: 514
To: THOMAS KINNEN Date: 08/10/93 3:01p
Subj: Re: POINEER CD CHANGER SYSTEM Refer: NONE
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TK-> I have a IN-2000 W/3.30 Bios (1990) and it will not reconige the 6
TK-> disk
TK-> changer... There is a newer version of the BIOS out that will
Thanks for the info. I do have the newer BIOS that is supposed to work. Now
all I have to do is find a drive within my price range.
Corry Macfarlane
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From: JON SHEARIN Number: 515
To: MARK WOMACK Date: 08/10/93 3:01p
Subj: CD-ROM HELP! Refer: NONE
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> I have the Mitsumi drive and you must load 2 files: The .SYS file in
> your config.sys and the MSCDEX in your autoexec.bat.
> For the life of me, I can't get the .SYS file to load in high
> memory. I use QEMM but even went as far as to install 386MAX on my system.
> Neither will let me load the file high - both lock up my system when
> they boot. I've rebooted about 500 times over this and just gave
> up. Anyone else not able to load the .SYS file high?
Mark,
I'm not sure how to load the .SYS file high using QEMM or 386MAX,
however, I CAN load it high using EMM386.EXE that came with MS-DOS 5.0 or 6.0
or Windows 3.1.
All you need to do is add the /D=40 option to the end of your command
loading EMM386.EXE. Such as:
DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS /D=40
Then you can set the DEVICEHIGH on your Mitsumi .SYS driver. It works
like a charm. I've done this on over 40 machines now. In fact, it is how I use
my Mitsumi LU-005. This "silly" slight-of-hand is covered in the Mitsumi manual
(although not very well). It's tucked in near the back.
Hope this helps.
Later,
JS.
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From: JON SHEARIN Number: 516
To: VICTOR HEALEY Date: 08/10/93 3:01p
Subj: MISTUMI/SB/SBPRO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> some audio card maker was going to release a special
> version of their card with a Mitsumi interface rather then a scsii
Victor,
Currently ATI produces a sound board called the Stereo FX/CD that
includes the Mitsumi interface. The board is jumperless and is configured
through software only. The good news is that it does an excellent job in
controlling the CD-ROM and it has 8 watt output (it can also tolerate having a
line-in device and microphone attached at the same time). However, the bad news
is that it is only Sound Blaster compatible NOT SBPro. Win some, Lose some. The
card retails for about $169 in the Raleigh, NC area.
If you need any more info on it, let me know.
Later,
JS.
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From: LOU PETRALIA Number: 517
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 08/10/93 3:05p
Subj: CD-ROM GAMES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Ashwin Bihari to All <=-
AB> Hey all, I just bought a CD-ROM and got a couple of shareware disks
AB> with it, I was looking for some games to buy for it, so if anyone has
AB> any good games for sale please leave me a message and also could
AB> someone suggest some good games to buy, I was told that 7th guest is
AB> good, is it really, what are the specs required to run that game...
AB> Please write back, C-ya
AB> Ashwin
Try and get ahold of 'Day Of The Tentacle' on of the funnest games you'll
ever play. Game comes complete with voice and great graphics. It's
not the 7th Guest but you'll laugh a lot more. As an added feature
my CD rom version came with a clue book. Check it out.
... * Thought links corrupted... Reformat brain? (Y/N)
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From: LOYD CRAFT Number: 518
To: ALL Date: 08/10/93 3:12p
Subj: Custom cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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Traveling Databases, Multimedia Presentations/Demos.
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o Minimum charge $85 for less than 85MB.
o $50 for each duplicate after paying full price for the first.
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o Minimum charge $90 for less than 90MB.
o $55 for each duplicate after paying full price for the first.
o CD Consolidation is a flat $50/$55 fee.
o UPS RED Label shipping is $15 extra.
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From: DAVID BERNARD Number: 519
To: BRUCE BOWMAN Date: 08/10/93 3:12p
Subj: CD-ROMs and DESQviewi Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
|BB>I also have this problem -- I have yet to find a CD music |
|player that is DV-aware. I have one called PLAY.EXE and |
|another called PLAYBACK.COM. Either one will cause an |
|exception error if run in DesqView. |
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I replied to Dave Summers about it, and besides what I told him I set a large
DOS window up to run in background with Protection level 1 set, and just to
help out the Tame ver 2.61 program too. The CD-Music plays well with shuttle
play and memory and all in background since I got the card switched to IRQ 5
from IRQ 3. Before that I was upset about not being able to run the CDs in DV
but since than its been running well. I had added the protection level 1 and
Tame when I was having trouble and at least had it from crashing the whole
thing when the wrong IRQ was set, and I have not changed it since. I have
been impressed with the sound from the CD-ROM and sent for some Koss amplified
speakers with base port and two drivers that Lyben has on sale. The smaller
Tandy amplified speakers from my sound card are OK but the sound quality on
the headphones really indicates better speakers are needed to enjoy it fully.
I load the MTMCDD.SYS in my Config.SYS:
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\MTMCDD.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:300 /M:16 /I:5 /T:S
Again I don't load MSCDEX.EXE in the Autoexec in DOS because it won't load
high and run, and it takes too much lower DOS. I run MSCDEX.EXE from the DV
window that I will use it in.
The files DAK program put on hard disk C:\CDPLAYER to run it are:
PLAYBACK COM 3/26/92 2:10p
CDMUSIC DB 3/31/92 10:54a
PLAY EXE 3/30/92 2:01p
CDMUSIC IDX 8/07/93 10:07p
The Bat file I load it with from C:\ to run it is CDMENU.BAT and is:
@echo off
c:
cd \
cdr
if errorlevel 2 goto end
cdrx.bat
:end
The CDR is in front end selection program in C:\
CDR EXE 5/14/91 2:23p
The CDR.DAT 8/07/93 10:07p File is:
name 00 CD Program Launcher
# Last changed on Sun Jul 25, 1993 at 19:59
menu
item 214 159 15 0 CD Music Launcher
c:\cdplayer
play.exe
The CDRX.BAT just says:
echo If you want to re-run the menu system, type CDMENU and press Enter.
Good Luck! Ltr...David
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From: DAVID HARRISON Number: 520
To: ALL Date: 08/10/93 3:12p
Subj: mitsumi Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I run WanderLand BBS, and I am looking to add a CD-ROM to my file section on
my bbs... One of my users offered to sell me a MITSUMI (350ms) CD-ROM
drive... Does anybody know if these things are worth having?
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From: ANDREW BARFOOT Number: 521
To: NORM ROWE Date: 08/10/93 3:12p
Subj: Bible Cd Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Reading messages between Bob Hall and Norm Rowe it appears you two guys no
something about bibles. I need a bible that has a full (Roman) catholic version
included. Can either of you - or any one else - tell me where I might get such
a CD. I prefer DOS but MAC will do...
Thabks in anticipation
Andrew L. BARFOOT
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From: ANDREW BARFOOT Number: 522
To: KAMIL GURGEN Date: 08/10/93 3:12p
Subj: Geneology Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message to All <16 Jul 93 15:35> Kamil Gurgen wrote:
KG> Can anyone assist with info on acquiring a CD which specialises
KG> in Geneology. I have been unable to find any in OZ except for the
KG> General Shareware Discs...
If you only want the programs to do the gene stuff, perhaps you should try one
of the Genealogist clubs around the country (Australia). There are two disks of
data available. The Victorian Pioneers index (cica 1835-85) and the New South
Wales index - dates unknown.
If you need to know more netmail me or call on (03) 758-4822.
Hope this helps...
Andrew L. BARFOOT
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From: ANDREW BARFOOT Number: 523
To: PAUL ROLFE Date: 08/10/93 3:12p
Subj: MPC Atlas Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message to All <07 Jul 93 14:43> Paul Rolfe wrote:
PR> Looking for a good MPC based Atlas, anyone got any suggestions,
PR> descriptions, and prices (either US$ or AU$)
I can supply you a brand new, un-opened copy of the current version of The
Software Toolworks "World Atlas" for $65.00 Australian, posted to your door.
This is a Windows Multimedia version of the of the software.
If this is suitable for your needs and if the price is right, then you can
netmail, fax or call me to arrange delivery.
fax (03) 752-2377
phone (03) 758-4822
Andrew L. BARFOOT.
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From: ANDREW BARFOOT Number: 524
To: STEVE THOMAS Date: 08/10/93 3:12p
Subj: 7'th Guest Won't Run! ! ! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message to All <11 Jul 93 17:37> Steve Thomas wrote:
ST> I just bought the 7'th Guest and it lloks pretty good. It would
ST> be better if I could get it to run. I start it up and it goes
ST> through the opening credits, it then goes into the book with the
ST> pictures on each page. It animates the picture and talks and then
ST> turns the page. Well my problem is that it hangs the system at
ST> different places in this opening scene.
I had the same problem and I changed from SVGA to MCGA graphics and the problem
stopped straight away. Never hung again...
btw I run a 386DX40 with 8meg
hope this helps
Andrew
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From: ANDREW BARFOOT Number: 525
To: PAUL ROLFE Date: 08/10/93 3:12p
Subj: MPC Atlas Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message to Paul Rolfe <17 Jul 93 15:57> Allen Dietz wrote:
>PR>Looking for a good MPC based Atlas, anyone got any suggestions,
descriptions
>PR>and prices (either US$ or AU$)
AD> For a world atlas, Global Explorer from DeLorme Mapping is the best.
AD> It's a seamless color map of the world with multi-level zoom,
AD> geographic and political features, and topographic information. In
AD> my opinion, Global Explorer is FAR superior to any other CD-ROM
AD> based world atlas currently on the market. It's available from:
SPECDATA, P.O. BOX 1050, MOUNTAIN GATE, VICRORIA, 3156
TELEPHONE, (03) 758-4822, FAX (03) 752-2377
Price cica $175.00 Australian.
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From: ANDREW BARFOOT Number: 526
To: MIKE LAGAMBA Date: 08/10/93 3:12p
Subj: x-rated cd-rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message to Carlos Benitz <21 Jul 93 03:14> Mike Lagamba wrote:
>-> In defense of JR: It may shock you, but if animals didn't have
>-> sex, there wouldn't be any. They aren't made in factories you
>-> know. Perhaps the conclusions you've jumped to about his post
>-> indicate a need of your own.
Not that I want to "expose" my preferences, but I thought you guys came from
the land of free speech etc. (1st amendment isn't it?) Now you talk of turning
of the echo so your members won't be exposed. Some of them may like it. Sounds
like you you are imposing censorship on your members if you do that (did you
run a ballot and ask what they wanted or is this proposed action arbitary.
Perhaps you should turn a Unix or an OS/2 type echo off because you don't want
your members exposed to a system you don't like...
Also, may I ask our moderator. Who made up the rule that no more messages about
sex or r/x-rated cd's shall "profane" this echo? Was it a matter that was
discussed in detail at sysop meetings, or perhaps a flood of netmail (that
no-one else was privy to), brought you to this decision?
Has anybody asked those who have not complained what they think. If there is
perhaps 1,000,000 readers of this echo, do you make rules to suit 100 or
perhaps 1,000 who complain? I have not seen one complaint reach the BBS I get
these messages from.
Don't forget, in enlightened countries such as those this echo reaches, the
readers can always stop reading, not buy the naughty cd's, not go to XXX rated
movies etc., etc., etc. Perhaps you should let the users decide...
Who was it that said...
"I DISAGREE OF WHAT YOU SAY, BUT WILL DEFEND TO THE DEATH YOUR RIGHT TO SAY IT"
Andrew L. BARFOOT
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 527
To: CARLOS BENITZ Date: 08/10/93 3:12p
Subj: New Mpc Specs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Carlos!
On 08-05-93 Carlos Benitz wrote to Rowan Evans...
CB> SL>> It would be a rare person to have a computer with these specs!
CB> RE> Why?? As soon as I upgarde this PC, I'll have two!
CB> Just because you have something does not make it unrare.
Check the English on the first quote.... "It would be a rare PERSON..."
So, I MUST be a rare person!
Anyway, the number of people that I discuss things with via FidoNET, etc
has given a reasonable enough sample for me to say that at least 30% of
the current PC users have a machine that with minor alterations would
meet this spec... Namely the installation of a fast CD-ROM or a 1Meg
SVGA card... This spec and the possible new games/applications written
for MPC L2 will put a lot of pressure on users to "go the extra"....
Cheers!
o
/U\
... OFFLINE 1.52
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From: POE LIM Number: 528
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/10/93 3:12p
Subj: Re: Cd Rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE> Have you checked the Creative Pacific BBS (02) 906-
RE> 8392 lately?? I was on
RE> there last night (05/08/93) and found an NT driver plus the most recent
RE> non-BETA DOS drivers.... I wasn't looking for OS/2 stuff, so I'm not
RE> sure, but the CP BBS would be the best place to keep a lookout for one!
Thanks; will keep a lookout for them. What makes them so attractive is the
price; a lot cheaper than most double spin ones.
Cheers,
Poe
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From: POE LIM Number: 529
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/10/93 3:12p
Subj: Pas16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE> any difference between Pro and 16/16 ASP stuff.... Two guys at work have
RE> Pros (one a Pro, the other a Pro 2) and they've run all the stuff I've
RE> managed to collect (and I've run their apps!)...
Ok, sounds reasonable; I've been hearing talk of a new card coming out RSN, so
it's difficult to know whether to buy now, or wait for the new card using the
new Yamaha chip that supposedly integrates MIDI.
RE> The machine with PAS 16/NEC CDU-55 gave 300Kbps throughput, the machine
RE> with SB 16 ASP/CR563 gave 584Kbps....
Sounds like nothing to recommend the Sony then, although it could also be
better interface. :)
Is T7G really as good as reports say it is?
Cheers,
Poe
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From: DAVID EAGEN Number: 530
To: ALL Date: 08/10/93 3:12p
Subj: 7th Guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Is there a fix out for T7G that supports S3 video boards yet? Where
can I get it? Dave
* KWQ/2 1.2a * I didn't vote for Clinton or her idiot husband!
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 531
To: ALL Date: 08/10/93 3:12p
Subj: CDROM title for $19 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Call 310-602-2076 8am-12pm, 6pm-9pm PST ask Wee Yung.
CIA Wolrd Fact Book.WI..........$19* CICA windows sharewares.........$19*
King's Quest V..................$19* Kodak Photo access..............$19*
Mantis Experimential Fighter....$19* Mario is Missing game...........$19*
So much Shareware Disk II or I..$19* Shareware overload..............$19*
Shakespear complete text........$19* Tempra Access Photo CD..........$19*
Toolworks Reference Library.....$19* Toolworks Grolier Encyclopedia..$59
Total Baseball Dos/Mac..........$29 Time Table of History...........$19*
World View......................$19* World Atlas V. 3.2 MPC..........$19*
Add $3 for shipping and handling. No exchange for difference titles.
* OLX 2.1 TD * voice 310-602-2076.8am-12pm,6pm-9pm PST. Fax 310-402-7240
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 532
To: ALL Date: 08/10/93 3:12p
Subj: CDROM drive sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Sound Galaxy NX Pro + Mitsumi CD-ROM bundle....................$289.
CD-ROM Mitsumi CRMC LU-005S w/contlr 630MB, 350ms, Kodak comp. $179.
CD-ROM Sony 31A with controller ...............................$229.
CD-ROM Panasonic 522B for SB Pro 380ms w/caddy.................$195.
CD-ROM Panasonic 562B 320ms w/contlr caddyless 300k/s 64kcache.$279.
CD-ROM Texel DM-3024 SCSI, 265ms, 300k/sec transfer, 64k cache $409.
CD-ROM Toshiba MX3401b SCSI drive,Kodak comp.200ms, 256k cache $469.
Creative Lab Discovery 8. CD-ROM + SB Pro + 3 CDs + Speakers...$399.*
Creative Lab Discovery 16. CD-ROM+ SB 16 ASP +3 CDs + Speakers.$459.*
Call 310-602-2076 8AM-12PM, 6PM-9PM PST or mail order payable to: TRUC
16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723. Accept money order, COD $5extra
* OLX 2.1 TD * voice 310-602-2076.8am-12pm,6pm-9pm PST. Fax 310-402-7240
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From: TONY MACE Number: 533
To: SAMSON LUK Date: 08/10/93 3:12p
Subj: BBS Door for CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Samson!
Wednesday August 04 1993 10:31, Samson Luk wrote to All:
SL> Any good recommendation on BBS DOOR for access Shareware CD-ROM for
SL> Maximus? Where can I FREQ them? Thanks!
Freq "FILES" from me and take a look at the Brainex door section. They have a
GREAT rom door that will work with any rom and almost any bbs program.
Tony
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 534
To: DOUG SNELL Date: 08/10/93 3:12p
Subj: Re: Wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Boris,
>> Do you have ICONBLAST on CD by any chance. I'm looking for
>> this CD and can't find it locally.
>> Thanks
>> Doug
Sorry, haven't seen it nor heard of it as yet.
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress....... Not Just Another Off-Line Mail System <tm>!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 535
To: MARTIN TAYLOR Date: 08/10/93 3:12p
Subj: Re: Night Owls 9 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Hi Boris.
>>
>>
>> $$$$$$$ R E D H O T C D' S A T R E D H O T P R I C E S $$$$$$$
>>
>> ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 - PRICE - $25.00ec
>>
>> You can also fax us your order at 216-225-6759 as well !!
>>
>> Do you do overseas orders? Do you also take VISA? If so, I'd
>> also like a catalog too. If it's free you can post it to:
>>
We ship all over the world and do accept Visa/MasterCard.
>> If it's not free, then let me know how much it is and if you
>> have PC-SIG Ver 13 and MS Encarta, and their prices, in stock.
PC-SIG 13 should be in sometime this week, I think and will have a price
of $25. on it. As for Ecarta, it's priced at $395. and is currently
out of stock, but due in within the next 2 weeks.
Interested, drop us a note via the node/net number below and we'll be
happy to assist you further.
Boris Osadciw
... Press F1 to Reboot
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 536
To: CHARL CILLIERS Date: 08/10/93 3:12p
Subj: Re: RED HOT SUMMER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Hiya Boris.
>> I'm a dealer here in south Africa. I also run a BBS. I'm
>> desperately looking for CDROMS and Drives for resale and for
>> Myself. My Requirements : Pioneer DRM604X with the *RIGHT*
>> Controller. And 6 Newest CDROMS to Fill it ! (Has to have
>> Files.bbs) Resale : All Roms and Drives.
>> Or Netmail at Bombed Out BBS 5:7105/6 (HST duals)
>> I'd really appreciate some help/info !
>> All the Best
>>
Charl, the above information is on it's way to you via the net number you
posted. If there is anything else you require, please drop us a note via
our node/number below and we'll do all we can to help you out.
Til then take care....
Boris Osadciw
... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress!
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From: TOM MILLER Number: 537
To: CHRISTIAN KADERUD Date: 08/11/93 2:10p
Subj: Re: Wing Commander Ii Deluxe Editon Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I've used Wing Commander II with my Mitsumi with no problem. I dids have
problems such as you described when I was using Dr-Dos and/or Superstor disk
compression.
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From: MARIO DI MAMBRO Number: 538
To: LOUIS CARRESI Date: 08/10/93 3:17p
Subj: Re: * x-rated cd-rom * Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Louis Carresi to John Larkin <=-
LC> -=( John Larkin might recently have said to Gary Shade about Re: *
LC> x- rated cd-rom * )=-
JL> *** Quoting Gary Shade to John Larkin ***
GS> Why would anyone want to see animals going at it???
JL> I believe he meant animals AND people...
LC> Why would anyone want to see animals AND people going at it???
LC> Louis
I would love to see animals and people going at it!!! Some
people enjoy seeing things that are different and extraordinary.
I never saw the original message...How can I get that CD?
... ARRRRRGGGHHH!!!! ... Tension breaker, had to be done.
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From: MARIO DI MAMBRO Number: 539
To: ALL Date: 08/10/93 3:19p
Subj: Chess Meister 5Billion and 1 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I saw a chess game that I thought was awesome. Chess Meister 5 billion & 1.
I loved Battle chess (in it's time) and I can't wait to get my hands on
this chess simulator. I was hoping I could get a version on CD ('cause it
take 27 megs on the HD). If there an enhanced version (although the graphics
couldn't be much better) that would be great. I hope someone out there has
it.
... My other computer is a 486.
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From: VINCE SORENSEN Number: 540
To: ALL Date: 08/10/93 6:54p
Subj: CANADIAN CD-ROM SOURCE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
...August Special...
Night Owl 9... $35 Canadian all taxes included.
Buy Night Owl 9 and any other of our many instock CD-ROMs,
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Contact:
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From: JURRIE HOBERS Number: 541
To: CHRIS CONKLIN Date: 08/09/93 1:58a
Subj: Re: Adult CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Chris Conklin to All <=-
CC> The following Adult CD-ROM's are currently available from
CC> C-3 Production Systems:
Hello Chris!
Do you also ship over to Europe?? To The Netherlands??
If si, we are VERY interested in a complete list of available cd's!
You can send your list to;
Diamond Soft
P/a Calthornerbrink 43
7812 HS Emmen
Drenthe, The Netherlands
Europe
CC> -!- Maximus/2 2.01wb
CC> ! Origin: Animal House BBS: 915-942-9350 (1:383/300)
ThanX!
CU!
Jurrie......
... DOS, this is CHECKDSK /F, Two Cross linked clusters at 9 o'clock!!
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From: GARY JOHNSON Number: 542
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 08/10/93 11:46p
Subj: CD-ROM GAMES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AB> Hey all, I just bought a CD-ROM and got a couple of shareware disks with
> it, I was looking for some games to buy for it, so if anyone has any
> good games for sale please leave me a message and also could someone
> suggest some good games to buy, I was told that 7th guest is good, is it
> really, what are the specs required to run that game... Please write
> back, C-ya
I've got Indiana Jones and the fate of Atlantis on cdrom. Its a full
'talkie version'. It includes a hint book. $30.00 shipped.
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From: SEAN EAGAN Number: 543
To: ALL Date: 07/15/93 11:13p
Subj: Re: WANTED! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* Original Area: FOR-SALE
* Original To : All (1:157/619)
WANTED!
Your DEAD CD-ROM Drives! Sure the Old Ones!
I want them! They are just sitting around gathering dust.
Looking For Sony, Toshiba and NEC!
I WANT THEM! Sell them to me!
Call me and we'll discuss a fair price or Reply here!
Might as well make some money on them!
Sean Eagan
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 544
To: TOM MILLER Date: 07/15/93 10:07p
Subj: Re: PAS16 OR SBPRO16ASP? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Tom!
On 07-13-93 Tom Miller wrote to Rowan Evans...
TM> I don't think the interface speed, whether scsi or at-bus,
TM> is going to be significant since either is much faster
TM> than any cd drive.
Did you see my post a few weeks back re CD-ROM benchmarking?? In the tests
a CR563 attached to an SB 16 ASP outperformed both an NEC CDR-55 and an
NEC CDR-74-1! The CDR-55 was tried on both a PAS 16 and an Adaptec 1540B,
with similar results and the CDR-74-1 was tried using the Adaptec (couldn't
get it to run on the PAS 16)... the sole difference, apart from the drive
mfrs and models was the interface.... now if someone would lend me the
SCSI version of the Panasonic, we'll be down to one variable!
TM> Scsi has aa advantage in that you can
TM> thoeretically add more devices to one interface.
OK, so I connect my hard drive, WORM, MOD, Scanner, tape drive, floptical
andtoaster to the SCSI adapter.... Where do I connect the CD-ROM??? <g>
TM> Copmaring the Pro Audio Spectrum to Sound Blaster Pro
TM> 16asp, if you really have a tin ear I wonder why you're
TM> looking at sound ca
'Cause Lemmings is boring when the sound comes out of a PC Speaker! <g>
Cheers & Beers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 545
To: DENIS COLEMAN Date: 07/15/93 10:22p
Subj: Re: CD SPEEDWAY Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Denis!
On 07-11-93 Denis Coleman wrote to All...
DC> Does anyone know where i can buy a copy of CD Speedway
DC> from in Australia and how much its likely to cost me.
I saw VapourWare advertise it in one of their ads in Australian
Personal Computer for around $125.00.....
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: PAUL WHITE Number: 546
To: ALL Date: 07/15/93 3:40p
Subj: MAC DEVICE DRIVER? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have a Toshiba 3301 CD-ROM drive that I've been using with my PC and I
wanted to try using it with my Macintosh. Do I need a special Mac device
driver? If so, does anyone out there know where I could get this driver
software? Thanks, Paul White 1:207/226
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 547
To: MICHAEL MULCAHY Date: 07/16/93 1:38a
Subj: Re: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> BO> *************** C D - R O M D R I V E P R I C E S
>> ***************
>> BO> Pioneer DMR604X Bare -$1199. Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or
>> Windows v1. BO> $50. ChestNuts CD's ALL $14.00ec Information
>> on the above or 400 + CD BO> titles
>> Any Mac compatable Encyclopedia ROMs? If so, what's your
>> asking price?
Groilers makes a Mac version of thier Encycopedia. As for the price,
it's a little more, why I don't know, but the best we could do would
be $60.
Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy
to help you further.
Boris Osadciw
... If you're not the lead dog, the view can be very interesting!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 548
To: LARRY RUPERT Date: 07/16/93 1:38a
Subj: Re: CMC COMPANY Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> I am looking for the phone number for the Creative Multimedia
>> Corporation. They put out Sherlock Holmes, and Shakespeare
>> books on disk. Looking for anything else they might have or
>> have had also. Thanks.
Larry, we have both of the above in stock. The game version is priced
at $30.00 and the text version ( all the writtings ) is priced at $10.00.
Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy
to help you further.
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... Pioneering Off-line Mail Technology!
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 549
To: ALL Date: 07/17/93 1:18a
Subj: MORE CD'S ON SALE! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
STARVECTOR CD-ROM BLOWOUT SPECIALS!
Bibles & Religion...$10 Colossal Cookbook...$10 Our Solar System....$10
Shareware Overload..$10 Windows 93..........$21 SoundWAV............$24
Deathstar Arcade....$10 Shareware 93........$18 House of Games......$20
Ham Radio 3.0.......$10 Sound Sensations....$10 Windoware...........$10
Complete Bookshop...$10 Technotools.........$10 Too Many Typefonts..$10
Fontmaster 1........$15 Clipart Goliath.....$10 Dictionaries/Lang...$10
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 550
To: ALL Date: 07/17/93 1:21p
Subj: BEST CDROM PRICES!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CD Winbox.....28.50 * Software Vault 2....23.95 * Global Explorer..93.50
Games 1993....24.50 * Shareware Studio 2..23.95 * Bible Library....28.95
Windows 1993..27.50 * Up All Night........19.95 * NG/SD Mammals....26.50
Mayo Clinic...28.50 * Aminet (Amiga)......16.95 * Busty Babes......29.95
Nightowl v9...28.95 * Reference Library...26.95 * Ecstasy..........29.95
Nightowl v8...26.95 * Readers Library.....28.95 * Nix Pix 2/3/4/5..29.95
Pier 1........27.95 * Clip Art Galore..28.95 We sell Hundreds of Titles
All Chestnut Titles (15 CDS)...13.50 * Many Walnut Creek Titles...16.95
PCJ - Orders - 800-547-7817 *-* Orders\Inquiry - 615-339-0235 (24 Hrs)
Fax 615-479-1047 *-* BBS 615-478-2890 *-* No surcharge for credit cards
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From: JORGE GUTIERREZ Number: 551
To: SCOTT BAILEY Date: 07/17/93 6:03p
Subj: Re: COREL ARTSHOW Refer: NONE
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Hello Scott. Is this a new item for Corell Draw 3.0. If it is. I wanted.
Let me know. Thanks.
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From: RICHARD NIXON Number: 552
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 07/15/93 5:22p
Subj: Re: PRO AUDIO OR SOUNDBLAST? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE> BF> The PAS16 uses a STANDARD SCSI PORT to run CD-ROMs with, the SB Pro
RE> BF> uses a PROPRIATARY thing that has all of 3 OR FEWER choices on which
RE> BF> ROM drive(s) you can run off of it.
RE> BF> The PAS16 SCSI port is Trantor-designed, and standard Trantor drives
RE> BF> work with it....
RE> You forgot to add that the PAS 16 SCSI port is slower than a molasses drip
RE> at the North Pole!
Actually, it is not that slow and it works for even the fastest CD-ROM.
I have a UltraStor 34F SCSI controller (local bus) and a Toshiba 3401
200ms cd-rom. As far as I can tell, there is NO DIFFERENCE between the
PAS-16's SCSI and the 34F SCSI when used with the CD-ROM.
This is true with a 486DX-33, 486DX-50, and a 486DX2-66.
If you are going to use the PAS-16 as a HA, then you might have
problems.
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 553
To: DAVE REED Date: 07/16/93 11:48a
Subj: Re: NIGHT OWL'S #9 $29 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JL> I am not too sure driving the price down immediately to $29 is called
JL> doing business with Night Owl. <G>
DR> In Ismail's case, it's called doing business *TO* Night Owl. ;-)
DR> Ismail has stated many times, that he will screw Richard any way he
DR> can.
Haha That is ONE way to do it! ;) Catch you later.
Jim...
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From: HERRY HERMAWAN Number: 554
To: JEAN-HUGUES ROYER Date: 07/17/93 9:02p
Subj: Re: ■ X-RATED CD-ROM ■ Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Would you sell your Digital dream then?
I am looking for something soft not too strong.
If you are willing to sell it let me know how much you
want it.
I can get one around this conference for $28 the lowet to
$35 the highest. I like to set the lowest price or market value.
Thank you
Herry
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From: TIM KLAN Number: 555
To: BILL WYNNE Date: 07/16/93 3:16p
Subj: Re: SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3 REVIE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BW>I'm gonna attempt to FREQ either SFROM or EZROM from you when I send this. I
>really new to having a CD online (2 days), and want to get it up ASAP for
my
>users. If, for some reason, you do not have these in your path, is there
>anyway
>you could please send them to me?
Sorry about that, SFROM120.ZIP and EZROM120.ZIP are once again FREQable
from my board, and you can grab SMS3.ZIP (so much shareware 3 files
list) while you're at it if you want.
...tim klan
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 556
To: MARK WALKER Date: 07/16/93 9:51a
Subj: Re: FIDONET CONFERENCES ON CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> >What exactly do you have in mind? A monthly/quarterly pressing?
>Quarterly would sound like a good idea to me
Quarterly should fit onto a single ROM for now.
Better yet, why not jst keep adding days 'till the disc would be 98%+ full,
THEN press it?
>stripping seen-bys and origin lines
BAD idea for this, due to the huge potential for dupe loops.
>I am keeping it as weekly text files NOT individual .msg files.
Why not keep it as .QWK files, or some other such "database" type storage
method?
* SLMR 2.1a * Ah KNOW what a Bagel is, but whut kinda dog is a Lox?
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From: DON RIEB Number: 557
To: ALL Date: 07/16/93 12:56a
Subj: CDROM SELLOUT. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CDROM disc's all new in sealed shrink rap:
Simtel-20 Shareware January 1992 CDROM $10
California collection $15
Wing Commander W/Secret Missions $25
Wing Commander and Ultima VI $25
CD Game Pack with 5 commercial games $25
U.S. History $20
World Atlas $20
The Complete Audubon Special 2-Disc set,
Birds and Mammals, Multimidia $35
Interactive Storytime Volume 2, Three books on one CD-ROM $25
I will ship all items for 2.90 for up to 6 disc's.
Also I have a store so you could use your VISA or Mastercard
if you like with no sercharge. You may also pick up the items if
you are near Glenview, ILL.
Don Rieb, 708-657-1160
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From: MARVIN GOLDSTEIN Number: 558
To: ALL Date: 07/17/93 7:13a
Subj: WANTED CD-ROMS, DRIVES ETC. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am interested in buying used CD-ROMS or drives in any quantity. Call
517-332-5471 or fax list to 517-332-7463. I will buy in any quantity and make
appropriate arrangements for shipping and payment.
Thanks!
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 559
To: MARK AIDASANI Date: 07/17/93 9:31a
Subj: ADDING A CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
HI Mark!
On 07-17-93 Mark Aidasani wrote to All...
MA> I am planning to add a CD-ROM in my computer, I was
MA> just wondering if it will conflict with the IDE controller
MA> card that I have. Would the SCSI controller card of the CD
MA> ROM conflict with an IDE hard disk controller card?
The simple answer - it shouldn't.....
The not-so simple answer - provided the SCSI host adapter doesn't trample
on anything that the IDE HDD controller uses (I believe port 170 or so
and sometimes ROM C800....) then you should be OK.... What SCSI H/A and
CD_ROM were you looking at??
I have used Adaptec's 1540B without worries in a machine with an IDE HDD,
also a Pro Audio Spectrum SCSI H/A (at different times!) in the same
machine......
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 560
To: JOEL CHARLESWORTH Date: 07/17/93 9:42a
Subj: Re: SCSI CD-ROM INTERFACE PR Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Joel!
On 07-14-93 Joel Charlesworth wrote to All...
JC> I recently purchased a new system that included a Sound
JC> Galaxy NX Pro sound card, as well as the SCSI CD-ROM
JC> Interface extension that goes along with it. I had a SCSI
JC> CD-ROM drive hooked up to it and it worked fine. That is
JC> until this afternoon when I installed a new modem at COM 3,
JC> IRQ 3. That's when the problem started. When ever I boot
JC> the computer it comes up with this:
JC>
JC> **** RESET SCSI BUS ****
JC>
JC> I don't know how to reset the SCSI Bus. I tried switching the modem
JC> COM port but that didn't help. I re-installed all of the SCSI and
JC> Soundcard drivers but that didn't work. The drive can't be
JC> used at all now. If anybody has had this problem and/or
JC> knows how to fix it, could you leave me a message? Thanks.
REMOVE the MODEM!!!!!!
Having done this, then check what IRQs your system is using.... I don't
personaly know about the Sound Galaxy card, but it appears as though it
is using IRQ3 for something.... As the computer runs through the Power On
Self Test, it is finding the modem and allocating it to IRQ3... When the
CONFIG.SYS is being loaded as part of the boot process, the driver for
the SCSI host adapter is then trying to load and sees something at IRQ3
and pukes....
That's my reading of the situation, see how you go!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 561
To: DAVID MCSPADDEN Date: 07/17/93 9:44a
Subj: Re: NIGHT OWL'S 9 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi dave!
On 07-14-93 David Mcspadden wrote to Manuel Wenger...
DM> I carry Nightowl 9 for $34.00 and ship airmail to Europe for $4.00.
DM> Your total would be $39.00 shipped.... Terms are VISA Mastercard or
Your price appears OK... Your math STINKS!
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 562
To: DANNY BRIGANCE Date: 07/17/93 9:46a
Subj: Re: TOSHIBA 3401 Refer: NONE
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Hi Danny!
On 07-15-93 Danny Brigance wrote to All...
DB> I recently purchased an external Toshiba 3401 CD-ROM drive. It comes
DB> with a host adapter to connect to the computer. However, I
DB> already have an Adaptec 1542C SCSI controller card so I
DB> just hooked it up to the Adaptec. It works great under
DB> OS/2 2.1. However when running under MS-DOS 6.00 the
DB> device driver that came with the drive will not work. It
DB> reports that there is no Host Adapter installed. The
DB> driver was automatically installed by the software driver
DB> disk that came with the drive into my CONFIG.SYS file. I
DB> know there is probably some other type of driver I need
DB> since I am using the Adaptec instead of the host adapter
DB> supplied with the drive. Anyone have any ideas.....
Do you have Adaptec's EZ-SCSI drivers?? If so, install the CD-ROM
driver from this package.....
The driver you got with the Toshiba is looking for the host adapter that
came with the package and it's NOT the same as the Adaptec.....
Hope this helps!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 563
To: GEORGE BUTCHER Date: 07/17/93 9:52a
Subj: Re: NEW PURCHACE ADVICE Refer: NONE
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Hi George!
On 07-14-93 George Butcher wrote to All...
GB> I am contemplating a purchace of a TEXEL DM3024 CD drive
GB> coupled with a Pro Audio Spectrum 16 sound card and would
GB> like some advice from a few users.
GB>
GB> I have chosen this combination because of the drive speed
GB> (265ms access, 300kb transfer) and reputation of the sound
GB> card.
You'll be disappointed at the throughput of the combo if you do any
file transfers from CD-ROM to HDD!
GB> The units will be installed in a 486dx266 PC with an IDE cache
GB> controller running one hard drive, two floppies, and a Colorado tape
GB> drive. I have a digitizer tablet and modem sharing an A/B
GB> box on Com 1, a mouse on com 2, and an 8 bit Soundblaster
GB> using interrupt 7. My main concern is will the SCSI drive
GB> work in harmony with the IDE controller?
In one word - YES!
GB> The Soundblaster card will be replaced by the PAS-16, so I
GB> hopefully can use the same interrupt, will the CD drive
GB> require an interrupt address as well?
To activate the additional sound facilities of the PAS 16, it too will
require an interrupt.... The SCSI host adapter, however, does not appear
to require an interrupt of its own once the PAS 16 interrupt has been
selected....
GB> In my research, I have noticed that the CD drive is SCSI-2
GB> compliant while the PAS-16 is only SCSI-1, will this make
GB> any difference?
Not really, the PAS 16 won't allow transfers at SCSI-2 speeds, but should
work OK with the Texel (I don't have a Texel so I can't say for sure!)...
GB> The Pro Audio Spectrum 16 is supposed to be Soundblaster compatible,
GB> have any users had any problems from within Windows 3.1 or while
GB> running CD programs involving sound?
No problems here! The PAS 16 loads its own sound drivers for Windows
which have much better integration to the PAS 16 (mixer, Audio CD Player,
sound capture, etc).... But I did notice in my setup that the PAS 16
setup program left the original SB driver for windows loaded....
Hope this helps!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 564
To: ALL Date: 07/17/93 10:03a
Subj: NEW MPC SPECS Refer: NONE
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Hi everyone!
For info, the Multimedia council has released the MPC level 2 spec and
I have listed it below :-
Processor :- 25Mhz 80486
RAM :- 4Mb minimum
Video :- 640 x 480 x 65,535 colours (1Mb SVGA card!)
CD-ROM :- 300Kbps (I forget the avg access time!)
Hard Drive :- 170Mb minimum
Sound Card :- MUST have 16 bit DAC and 16 bit ADC - I
disremember the record/playback frequencies...
So if you're in the market for a new PC/CD-ROM/etc these spex should give a
guide to the minimums that you'll be looking at (if you want to run MPC
level 2 stuff!).....
Cheers & Beers!
o
/U\
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From: LAURIE BATT Number: 565
To: VINCENT LAMARTINA Date: 07/16/93 8:56a
Subj: Re: CD ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
G'day Vincent, In a message on <Jul 12>, you said :
BO>> Pioneer if you have the requirment.
VL> Boris, you seem to know quite a bit about the cd-rom
VL> drives, could please answer this for me. Are either of
VL> these drives able to be used with the Sound Blaster Pro. If
VL> so are any special cables, adapters, etc needed.
You can use almost any CDROM drive WITH the SBPRO , but if you want one that
the SBPRO can control then the Matsushita by Panasonic made for Creative Labs
is the only one you can use. All others would need their associated interface
(controller) cards and the Audio output only fed through the SBPRO.
Laurie
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From: LAURIE BATT Number: 566
To: LOUIS BERKOWITZ Date: 07/16/93 9:07a
Subj: Re: POSITIONING Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
G'day Louis, In a message on <Jul 12>, you said :
LB> I have an external CD-ROM drive and I was wondering if
LB> anything could happen to my computer if I keep the drive on
LB> top of my mini-tower case that is under my desk?
Other than it may SQUASH it under the weight <G>, there is no reason why you
cannot place it on top of your computer.
Laurie
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From: LAURIE BATT Number: 567
To: RUSSELL ROBINSON Date: 07/16/93 9:27a
Subj: Re: REWRITABLE DATA CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
G'day RUSSELL, In a message on <Jul 09>, you said :
RR> I LIVE IN COLOMBUS , THEIR IS A STORE BY MY COLLEGE THAT
RR> SELLS WORM DRIVES(READ ONCE WRITE MANY) THEIR PRICES ARE
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Hmmm. Thats amazing ! <G>
I can write as many times as I like to the disk but only read once.
How does it keep track of which session I have read ?
Laurie
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From: SCOTT GOLBY Number: 568
To: GREG ANDERSON Date: 07/16/93 12:38p
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Greg,
GA> Where did you get that cd from? do you wanna sell yours?
I got mine from a place in Canberra called DISK (062) 94 2056 it was
$65 including express post. Hmmm, nahh I dont think I want to sell it, but I'd
swap it for another disk like a trade a week or so.
If you have something (PD or Adult) to swap for a little while drop me
a line.
'C' ya... Scott Golby
sgolby@st.nepean.uws.edu.au
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From: SCOTT GOLBY Number: 569
To: ALL Date: 07/15/93 5:31p
Subj: WALNET CREEK AMINET WANT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Everyone,
WANTED : Walnut Creek Aminet CD-ROM.
OK, who out there will sell me one? :-)
'C' ya... Scott Golby
sgolby@st.nepean.uws.edu.au
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From: CRAIG BAKER Number: 570
To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 07/17/93 8:47a
Subj: Re: NEWS ABOUT P.C. BIGJOE BB Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Is it possible to run more than 4 drives on one Hitachi bus card? What I am
thinking is that I have 4 3500s (purchased from you) and 4 1503s (externals).
The interface card has both internal and external connectors so I can
physically connect the drives (4 internal, 4 external). However the drives only
have switch selections 1-4. Any ideas or am I in left field?
Craig
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From: JOSEPH THOMAS Number: 571
To: CAM LERCH Date: 07/18/93 8:03a
Subj: Re: OLD 600MS CD-ROM DRIVES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CL> CONTROLER).. New Mitsumis are $180-200 without
CL> control!..... controls are usually about $30.00.. See???
CL> **Cam**
I donn't know what is meant by control.
I have bought a Mitsumi for the said price and it came with
everything (cables, Interface card) and works fine.
Hope you find one to your liking. Tnx. take care.
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From: STEVE PESANT Number: 572
To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Date: 07/17/93 11:44p
Subj: CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey there how's it going? I was wondering what some of your new CD
releases have been over the past couple of months... I received one of your
catalogs about 2 months ago, and I really getting interested in starting to
purchase some ROMs for myself...<grin>
So, if you have a moment, can you please update me on what some NEW
things are as well as their prices...Also, have any of the previous items in
the catalog changed in price....I always like to keep my info. up to date 8-)
-=Cheers=-, Steve
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From: DAVE DUCHARME Number: 573
To: NEIL ALLEN Date: 07/17/93 12:00a
Subj: Re: SHERLOCK HOLMES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NA>I recently purchased Sherlock Holmes on CD and was reading
>through the DOCs and found something about a CD BOOT disk,
>can anyone tell me if it works fine with out a boot disk?
I have the Sherlock Holmes CD (came with my drive) and I was able to run
it easily without a special set up. I have a 386SX 25MHz with 2megs of
ram, configured as extended memory and have about 600Kb of conventional
ram available.
BTW, which SH is it that you have? There is a new part III out that I
don't have which may require a special set up, but Part II works fine.
Dave
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From: LUC SIENAERT Number: 574
To: ANDREW LARMOUR Date: 07/13/93 11:54a
Subj: Re: PHOTO-CD IN AUST Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello ANDREW
ANDREW LARMOUR wrote in a message to ALL:
AL> (Australia), and the best I can get out of my Kodak Photo-CD
AL> rep is that the Kodak software (Access, Shoebox,
AL> Renaissance and Photoedge) wont be available until late
AL> 1993.
Access is available in Europe (Belgium)!
Greetings,
Luc
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From: IAN GREGSON Number: 575
To: ANDREW HOLLINGS Date: 07/13/93 9:29p
Subj: Re: CD ROM SUPPLIES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Hello Ian!
->
-> 05 Jul 93 00:31, Ian Gregson wrote to All:
->
-> IG> Hello I have just formed a small company which buy and sells CD
-> IG> CD ROMS DRIVES as well as other PC related hardware/software. I
-> IG> looking for distributors/suppliers to the trade of the above.
->
-> When you get a list of cd's I'd be interested in a price list. My fr
-> run a BBS in Hull 2:258/44 (Dream-Line). Good luck with the the busin
->
-> Cheers Andy
->
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give me a ring on my bbs 0274 884881 and talk to me there, i have a few
good contacts - and cheap
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From: IAN MURRAY Number: 576
To: ANY Date: 07/13/93 9:09p
Subj: ADVICE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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From: MATHIJS TIELEMAN Number: 577
To: ALL Date: 07/14/93 11:39a
Subj: CD-ROM DISTRIBUTERS Refer: NONE
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Hi,
I'm looking for a CD-ROM distributer in The Netherlands. I know there must be
some cheap distributers who has a lot of CD-ROM's on their list. Who can give
me the adresses? I like to distribute CD-ROM via my BBS. So for commercial
activities (I do have my own company)
Or if you are selling cheap CD-ROM's from outside The Netherlands, but cheap
let me know, including some examples.
Groeten Mathijs
Netmail:
2:283/725 / 2:283/726
BBS:
+31-53-310897 (V32B)
+31-53-319014 (V32B)
Address:
M.J. Tieleman
Renbaastraat 76
7523 ZX Enschede
Holland
Voice Phone:
+31-53-331172 (Ask for Mathijs)
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From: LEW MURRAY Number: 578
To: CAM LERCH Date: 07/17/93 9:53a
Subj: Re: OLD 600MS CD-ROM DRIVES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CL>But I only want it for my BBS and I don't want an
CL>expensive.. As much as I can afford is $170.00.. (WITH
CL>CONTROLER).. New Mitsumis are $180-200 without
CL>control!..... controls are usually about $30.00.. See???
Cam;
I just baught one for $185 and it included controller and cables.
Lew
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From: JOHN HUNTER Number: 579
To: ALL Date: 07/13/93 6:33p
Subj: MULTI-CD-ROM DRIVES Refer: NONE
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Hi!,
Can anybody tell me of any multi cd-rom drives?. I would like to have 6
or so cd-roms available at once.
Cheers,
John
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 580
To: CHRIS MOORE Date: 07/16/93 9:21p
Subj: Re: REFERENCE MATERIAL ON CD Refer: NONE
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CM> Address: EBSCO Subscription Services Sales & Administration Office
CM> P.O. Box 325 Topsfield, MA 01983 (508) 887-6667 (508) 887-3923 (FAX)
Chris, I was unsuccessful in xmting a fax to EBSCO. Their number has changed.
I tried their voice number and it had changed also. Their new number is (508)
535 8500. When I tried this number I was connected to their voice mail
informing me that the company was at a Company Picnic. Will try again on
monday..m2
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From: CARLOS BENITZ Number: 581
To: ALL Date: 07/16/93 7:16a
Subj: MITSUMI & 7TH GUEST Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
It seems like I've been reading about a number of people who are
having trouble with their Mitsumi 005's working with 7th Guest.
I'm think about buying this model, so:
Is there anyone here who has used their Mitsumi to play
7th Guest and not had any problems?
* SLMR 2.1 *
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From: JIM CUMMINGS Number: 582
To: CARLOS BENITZ Date: 08/11/93 9:16p
Subj: GOVT CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
The message editor at CCC BBS screws up sometimes. I have had the problem with
it tangling my message with someone else's. I have not received the Govt CD
Rom yet. They charged it on my cr card and two days later gave me credit with
no explanation.
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From: GREG HASKINS Number: 583
To: LAWRENCE MINTZ Date: 08/10/93 11:51p
Subj: DOS 6.0 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LM> Ok, then try adding DBLSPACE to your DOS 5. Secondly, after
LM> DOS boots, hit the F5 key and see if DOS 5 will cancel the
LM> CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT. Finally, reboot and try
LM> DOS 5. For those of us with complex configurations and
LM> personally do not use DBLSPACE on my system, simply because
You Gotta be Kidding Right ?
What will Memmanager do Its Lame I run Qemm. I have a great util for multible
Config and Auto How needs Dos 6 Large files that don't really do shit on your
system. It should have been called Dos 5.1/2 And the best thing you have
mentioned is that you don't use Double space Very good..
When they come out with a real upgrage Ill switch
just another opinon HU ?
P.S. Go back to 5 get Qemm and save 3 megs
- Greg -
Sysop - Excel BBS
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 584
To: MARK THORNTON Date: 08/11/93 1:30a
Subj: Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MT>If anyone has any CD catalog's would you please post a message where i can
MT>pick one up thanks......
Mark,
We have a catalog available with our 300+ titles that we stock. Call
any time to get one by mail, or freq STARCAT.ZIP from 1:3407/101, or
download STARCAT.ZIP from our BBS at 509-457-0206.
Later,
.\\ike
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 585
To: DAVID HARRISON Date: 08/11/93 1:30a
Subj: mitsumi Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DH>I run WanderLand BBS, and I am looking to add a CD-ROM to my file section on
DH>my bbs... One of my users offered to sell me a MITSUMI (350ms) CD-ROM
DH>drive... Does anybody know if these things are worth having?
David,
Recommendation: HITACHI 3500. Terry Blount has used ones for sale in
this echo for $99.00. Kinda slow, but a real bulletproof, QUALITY drive.
Mine has read *every* CD I've ever popped into it, with zero maintenance
problems. I've heard some good comments from Mitsumi owners, but mostly
complaints.
Hope that helps.
Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 586
To: ALL Date: 08/11/93 1:30a
Subj: CD WINBOX IS HERE! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
ATTENTION WINDOWS USERS! Looking for THE BEST Windows shareware CD?
FROM THE MAKERS OF CD-POWERBOX . . . . . CD WINBOX 1.0 IS HERE!
+------------------------+ +---------+ +-----------------+
| NO DUPES TO POWERBOX | | 640mb | | 40 FILE AREAS |
+------------------------+ +---------+ +-----------------+
+-----------------+ +----------------+ +-----------------+
| VIRUS-CHECKED | | ONLY $27.00! | | MOSTLY 1993!! |
+-----------------+ +----------------+ +-----------------+
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs * 509-457-2966 (FAX)
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From: BOBBY POSEY Number: 587
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 08/11/93 8:35a
Subj: Big Sky Special Refer: NONE
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> the market. Big Sky is very popular on Computer Works BBS, and can be
> previewed online.
Have you got an allfiles list that is Freqable so we can take a look at what is
on the disc???
> Computer Works (205) 793-4481 Voice
> CD-Rom Sales! (205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card & COD Orders
Bobby
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From: ALLEN DIETZ Number: 588
To: MICHAEL MCKINLEY Date: 08/10/93 8:18p
Subj: PDR Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MM>Did you find your PDR?? I have several for under the price quoted..
MM>Drop a note or voice- 912-245-8793.
Michael, I'm not looking for a PDR, someone else was.
* OLX 2.2 * Always drink upstream from the herd
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From: PAUL SWIDER Number: 589
To: MIGUEL GARCIA Date: 08/11/93 8:12a
Subj: Iron Helix Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 08-10-93 Miguel Garcia wrote to All...
MG> Does anyone know about a CD title called Iron Helix?
MG>
MG> Is it available for the PC?
Miguel, I saw a little blurb about it in CD-ROM Today magazine. It said it
was for the MAC but there is suppose to be a version coming out soon for
the PC. >Paul<
... OFFLINE 1.50 "Everyone complains of his memory, no one of his judgment."
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 590
To: STEPHEN COCHRAN Date: 08/11/93 5:54p
Subj: Looking for anatomy CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SC> Hi, I am searching for a CD-ROM that contains images and information
SC> similar to that found in Gray's Anatomy (the standard handbook). I
SC> specifically need access to illustrations of the skeletal and nervous
SC> systems. If anyone knows of such a beast, and could point me to the
SC> correct publisher, I would be very grateful. Thanks in advance!
SC>
SC> Stephen R. Cochran
Contact FolkStone for the Anatomist CDROM. It's Exspensive...$295. Their
address is folkstone@applelink.apple.com. I have been trying to find it
wholesale. If you can find it cheaper pls let me know...m2
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From: OLIVER BLADEK Number: 591
To: ALL Date: 07/17/93 7:25a
Subj: MSCDEX V2.22 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey People out there in CD-ROM land,
I recently purchased the Creative Labs multimedia upgrade kit and got a
CD-ROM with it.. My installation program is the mscdex ver 2.22 when I
run the program in my autoexec.bat file it is (BTW my CD-ROM name is
'mscd001 ') When I type the specs for the CD it's
c:\sb16\drv\mscdex.exe /d:mscd001 /m:5 /d:
It replies with incorrect DOS version. I have an ASI 486/33SX and is
using DOS 6.0 and Windoze 3.1 Thanx in advance TTYl
Ollie
... File not found. Should I fake it? (Y/N)
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From: DAVE CLARK Number: 592
To: MATT RIGE Date: 07/17/93 4:55p
Subj: OBLIVIOUS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MR> I JUST got my money together for a CD rom drive and am completely
MR> oblivious as to how to begin my search, any sugestions???
What are you looking to do with your CD-ROM? Is it for personal use, or
BBS use, or what? Do you wish to run certain applications with it?
Those questions will help us to point you in the right direction...
Dave Clark
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From: DAVE CLARK Number: 593
To: CHARLES CHOONG Date: 07/17/93 4:55p
Subj: 4 CD SET OF 25,000 SHAREW Refer: NONE
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CC> i agree, got sharaware extravaganza
CC> disappointed its not even as good as phoenix 3
CC> sigh
(Smile!) And that's bad, because Phoenix III wasn't that hot, either!
:)
Dave Clark
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From: DAVE CLARK Number: 594
To: TONY FACCANI Date: 07/17/93 4:55p
Subj: EROTIC ENCOUNTERS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TF> Does anyone have the description listing for Erotic Encounters CD? I
TF> think the name of the file is EROTIC-1.ZIP
TF> If anyone has it e-mail me and let me know.
TF> Thanks in advance,
Tony, unless some enterprising soul has spent the time to do that
somewhere, there IS no file list for that disc. There never was one. I
knew of someone in Guam that was working on one, but never completed it,
or if they did, they never let me know about it.
That disc is being dropped by the publisher, and it will not be
repressed after the current run is out, so there isn't much incentive to
do the kind of work on it that is necessary to make it BBS ready.
Dave Clark
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From: DAVE CLARK Number: 595
To: DON RIEB Date: 07/17/93 4:55p
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS $29 ALL DAY LONG. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DR> Better yet get The Adult Reference Liberary, it has better scans,
DR> and better catagories and pretty ladies. Works perfect on a BBS.
DR> Only $39.
Don, what kind of file listings are available for that title? Last time
I looked at the disc itself, there weren't any file listings of any
type. One of the distributors provided me with a file listing, but it
didn't match any pattern that I had ever seen, and I didn't feel that
the disc, which was simply copies of scans that have appeared on other
CD-ROM's and BBS's before, was worth the time to create DIRx/SFFILES
for.
DR> Digital Dreams ADULT CDROM is available for $29 from Saveware.
In regard to your claim that Adult Reference Library has better scans, I
hope that you don't mind duplication from other CD's... at least Digital
Dreams is all original scanning. It's hard to say that about most of
the products on the market today.
DR> ** VISA OR MASTERCARD EXCEPTED **
Don, are you sure about that? :)
Dave Clark
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From: DAVE CLARK Number: 596
To: JOHN SHEW Date: 07/17/93 4:55p
Subj: NIGHTOWL LIST Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
js-> Does anyone have master lists for Nightowl 7 & 8 available
WK> for file request or download?
John, you can call my BBS, Arsenal Computer. There are file listings
for those, and several other popular BBS ready discs ready for download
on the first call. Look in file area one for the information.
My BBS numbers are: 913-266-0067 266-8139 266-7595 267-9624 267-5238
I have another, but the motherboard is out of commission for awhile.
I'll be restoring that node soon, however.
Dave Clark
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From: DAVE CLARK Number: 597
To: SHAWN DOWNEY Date: 07/17/93 4:55p
Subj: Re: CD ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SD>I Recently Posted An AD, And It Was Incorrect. Ad Price Was $79US And
SD>Supposed To Read $39US. Furthermore, The AD Displayed DIGITAL DREAMS
SD>And Was To Display DIGITAL DREAMS - THE MCHENRY COLLECTION. Shortenin
Shawn, if you are speaking about Digital Dreams from Ero Tek Publishing,
it has absolutely NOTHING to do with McHenry BBS or any McHenry Scan.
Period.
Dave Clark
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From: DAVE CLARK Number: 598
To: HERRY HERMAWAN Date: 07/17/93 4:55p
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS WANTED Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
HH> Anybody has an open interesting price
HH> for this "Digital Dream" CD-ROM.
HH> I want to buy one!!!!
HH> used one will be great, but I like the latest version of it
HH> which is around June 1993.
Henry, there is only one version of that disc! (smile!) But don't let
that dissuade you... I think that you will like that title. It's got a
lot going for it.
Dave Clark
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From: DAVE CLARK Number: 599
To: DON TSANG Date: 07/17/93 4:55p
Subj: MCHENRY COLLECTION Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> 1,700+ Unmodified Original Scans From The MCHENRY Adult BBS. No
-> Painful Logos Slapped On Top Of These Quality Images By Irresponsible
-> SysOps.
DT> Question: McHenry BBS is known throughout the BBS world as the
DT> people who scan pics from magazines such as Hustler, and slap THEIR
DT> annoying logo on it. Does this mean that THEIR logo is not on it as
DT> well? Have they carefully removed all the magazine PICs so that the
DT> users of the CD don't get SUED by the magazine owners just like
DT> Event Horizons and many others have been sued? If so, then I think I
DT> would be interested in this disk. Please reply in this echo. Thanks.
I believe that Shawn was talking about Digital Dreams, if I am following
this thread correctly. And if he was, he was sadly mistaken. Digital
Dreams has NO connection with McHenry whatsoever, and the scans in
Digital Dreams certainly do not look like anything that I've seen in
Hustler. The scans are just too classy for Hustler! :)
Dave Clark
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From: DAVE CLARK Number: 600
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 07/17/93 4:55p
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS: $29!!!!!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MS> DIGITAL DREAMS IS HERE . . . . ONLY $29.00!
MS> * All original scans from the McHenry BBS
MS> * No BBS ads or logos
MS> * BBS-ready with support for several BBS formats
MS> * Over 1700 .GIF images
MS> * 300+ animation files
Mike, you better check on that title. The Name "Digital Dreams" is from
Ero Tek, and has NOTHING to do with McHenry. Period.
Dave Clark
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From: DAVE CLARK Number: 601
To: TONY STOTT Date: 07/17/93 4:55p
Subj: ECHO ABUSE AGAIN Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TS> Let's leave him with a huge unsold pile of rip-off disks!
(Smile!) It sounds like a plan to me! :) How well would the public
take it if someone created, oh, say, Nightowls, the Personal Collection?
I don't think that this kind of thing should be tolerated by the
consumers out there.
Dave Clark
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From: DAVE CLARK Number: 602
To: ALL USERS Date: 07/17/93 4:55p
Subj: CD-ROM REVIEW Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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=== CD-ROM DISC REVIEW - ARSENAL COMPUTER ===
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=== VOICE (913) 266-5851 FAX (913) 266-7574 BBS (913) 267-9624 ===
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The Following is a CD-ROM "review". The opinions expressed belong
solely to Dave Clark, Sysop of Arsenal Computer BBS.
]]] TITLE: All Beauties
]]] SIZE: 668 Megs
]]] FILES: 3991
]]] PUBLISHER: Micro Mart Publishing
]]] CATEGORY: Adult, End User, No BBS Support Visible
Pfft. Well, when I first saw this rather cheesy looking disc,
I didn't expect much. Luckly, I wasn't disappointed. <smile!>
First off, the images are all gleaned from various BBS's around the
country, which means that there is a serious chance that you've seen
these images before, perhaps either in a BBS download, or else on
another CD-ROM. Second off, there was NO BBS support that I could
find. Third, the user interface on this program was a joke! When
I first tried to run it, it bombed on me hard, with a program
error code. When I tried it again, I got it to *work*, if you call
seeing about 10% of the image overlayed over the last 10% over and over
again as working.
The truly annoying thing about is, is that even if the user interface
had correctly displayed the images, you have no control over them.
None. You get to see the images in the order that THEY want you to,
and at the speed that THEY want you to. Don't like it? Don't use
their interface. That's the only recourse you have.
Well, I fired up my Trusty GifReed program, and found that I could
indeed see the images... most seemed to be 640x480, and although the
images were good, that is more of a testament to the BBS's that
scanned the images than to the person(s) that assembled this CD-ROM.
But, since the images WERE from BBS's, and were not original, if you
buy this disc, you will probably be repeating previous efforts.
Unless, of course, you don't HAVE any adult discs... <smile!>
There is a lot better on the market today, and I don't see why the
consumer should have to put up with tripe like this.
Overall impression: Thumbs Down.
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From: MIKE GUIDRY Number: 603
To: MATT SOUTH Date: 07/18/93 7:57p
Subj: Re: SELLING CD'S Refer: NONE
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On (13 Jul 93) Matt South wrote to All...
MS> Does anyone know of a good place to sell your used CD'S at? Not audio
MS> CD'S but game CD'S.
MS> |-|yperjive
MS>
MS> --- T.A.G. 2.6d Standard
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MS> 209/209
MS>
Try here. List what you have and what you want for it.
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From: MIKE GUIDRY Number: 604
To: STEPHEN POON Date: 07/18/93 8:01p
Subj: Re: MITSUMI DRIVE AND PAS 16 Refer: NONE
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On (14 Jul 93) Stephen Poon wrote to All...
SP> I'm planning on buying a PAS 16 and a Mitsumi 350ms drive separately.
SP> Inorder for them to work properly together, will I need to purchase a
SP> cable that is not included with either device? I heard that some
SP> people had problems when they wanted to play a music CD and have the
SP> sound come through the sound card. Does anyone know if there is some
SP> cable to connect them? Thanks...
SP>
I have the same setup and just needed to buy a cable from Radio Shack to
connect the outputs of the Mitsumi to the inputs of the PAS.
Don't hold me to this, but from looking in the RS catalog, I think it's
#42-2475. Connects a 1/8" stereo headphone plug to 2 phono plugs. $4.39 US
in my 1993 catalog.
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From: MIKE GUIDRY Number: 605
To: NEIL ALLEN Date: 07/18/93 8:13p
Subj: Re: SHERLOCK HOLMES Refer: NONE
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On (15 Jul 93) Neil Allen wrote to All...
NA> I recently purchased Sherlock Holmes on CD and was reading through the
NA> DOCs and found something about a CD BOOT disk, can anyone tell me if
NA> it works fine with out a boot disk?
NA>
Yeah, just run whatever the .exe file is on the disk. The docs are written
at a very low level.
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From: MIKE GUIDRY Number: 606
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 07/18/93 8:33p
Subj: Re: NEW MPC SPECS Refer: NONE
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On (17 Jul 93) Rowan Evans wrote to All...
RE> Hi everyone!
RE>
RE> For info, the Multimedia council has released the MPC level 2 spec and
RE>
RE> I have listed it below :-
RE>
RE> Processor :- 25Mhz 80486
RE> RAM :- 4Mb minimum
RE> Video :- 640 x 480 x 65,535 colours (1Mb SVGA card!)
RE> CD-ROM :- 300Kbps (I forget the avg access time!)
RE> Hard Drive :- 170Mb minimum
RE> Sound Card :- MUST have 16 bit DAC and 16 bit ADC - I
RE> disremember the record/playback
RE> frequencies...
RE>
RE> So if you're in the market for a new PC/CD-ROM/etc these spex should
RE> give a
RE> guide to the minimums that you'll be looking at (if you want to run
RE> MPC
RE> level 2 stuff!).....
RE>
I think it'll take awhile for anyone to write mass market software
targeted for MPC2 systems. It would be a very limited market.
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From: MIKE GUIDRY Number: 607
To: DAVE CLARK Date: 07/18/93 9:25p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM REVIEW Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On (17 Jul 93) Dave Clark wrote to All Users...
DC> ]]] TITLE: Giffy Gold
DC> ]]] SIZE: 214 Megabytes
DC> ]]] FILES: 1055 Files
DC> ]]] PUBLISHER: Giffy BBS
DC> ]]] CATEGORY: General Interest GIF Files, No User Interface,
DC> Alledgedly BBS ready.
DC>
DC> to
DC> do with adult files. I'm sure that the image of a Tomahawk cruise
DC> missile blowing up a building is going to make me feel like I got a
DC> good adult disc... <smile!>
Was probably some Freudian imagery :)
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From: BILL GEE Number: 608
To: DANNY BRIGANCE Date: 07/16/93 7:45a
Subj: Re: TOSHIBA 3401 Refer: NONE
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DB>I recently purchased an external Toshiba 3401 CD-ROM drive. It comes with a
DB>host adapter to connect to the computer. However, I already have an
Adaptec
DB>1542C SCSI controller card so I just hooked it up to the Adaptec. It works
DB>great under OS/2 2.1. However when running under MS-DOS 6.00 the device
driv
DB>that came with the drive will not work. It reports that there is no Host
DB>Adapter installed. The driver was automatically installed by the software
You need to get one of the following packages:
1) ASW-410, available from Adaptec for US$80 (approx)
2) CorelSCSI, available from many different software vendors including
Egghead.
With the Adaptec drivers, you will wind up with two entries in CONFIG.SYS:
DEVICE=[path]\ASPI4DOS.SYS (This runs the SCSI card)
DEVICE=[path]\ASWCDTOS.SYS (This runs the CD-ROM drive)
and in AUTOEXEC.BAT, the usual entry for MSCDEX.EXE. The problem is that
the Adaptec host adapter is NOT the same as the host adapter that came with
the drive. The drivers for the Toshiba host adapter will not run the
Adaptec. I hear rumors that the Adaptec EZ-SCSI package also contains
complete driver sets, but I have never seen it and so cannot be sure.
Bill Gee
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From: LAURENCE ALLEN Number: 609
To: STEVE THOMAS Date: 07/16/93 12:20a
Subj: Re: 7'TH GUEST WON'T RUN! ! ! Refer: NONE
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> I just bought the 7'th Guest and it lloks pretty good. It would be
> better if I could get it to run. I start it up and it goes through the
> opening credits, it then goes into the book with the pictures on each
> page. It animates the picture and talks and then turns the page. Well
> my problem is that it hangs the system at different places in this
> opening scene. It may make it through 3 or even 4 pages but it hangs.
> While displaying the animated pictures the voice tends to get cut short
> and I get a line of graphics garbage across the screen. It then turns
> the page, usually. Eventually it will get the graphics garbage on a
> page and that's when the system hangs. I am running an 80386-25 with 8
> megs of memory, a SB-16, a Smart and Friendly CD-ROM (150kbps MPC
> compatible) and a Reveal VC300 Video card (16M colors, Cirus chip). I
> have taken the config.sys and autoexec.bat down to the minimum and
> still get the same problem. I have tried Vesa drivers and still get the
> same problem. I am running DOS 6. So is there hope for my system or am
> I doomed until I get some
> new hardware?
>
You might try uploading the fix that they have relesed on their BBS. It's
mighty hard to
get through, but just set you modem program on auto retry till it gets
through, or just get
it from some one localy that has it already.
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From: LAURENCE ALLEN Number: 610
To: FRED FINDLING Date: 07/16/93 12:20a
Subj: 7TH GUEST (AUSTRALIA) Refer: NONE
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> LA>1. The only thing that uses NTSC or PAL is your TV set and VCR.
> LA>2. The computer is not NTSC or PAL or any of the other TV
> transmiting
> LA>standards
> LA> it is VGA or SVGA or what ever your monitor is configured for.
>
> Not unless you still happen to have one of those ancient CGA cards
> around that had a composite video output on it. Besides the usual
> TTL output, they had a phono jack for composite video as well. You
> could hook up an NTSC monitor to it and actually see SOMETHING. They
> were a great way of converting your IBM compatible into a VIC-20 or
> Atari 2600 in terms of the video you got!
>
> .............Fred
>
Yes but the output of the Computer is not going to be dependent on the
software.
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From: RUSSELL BOYCE Number: 611
To: CAM LERCH Date: 07/18/93 10:16a
Subj: Re: OLD 600MS CD-ROM DRIVES Refer: NONE
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> But I only want it for my BBS and I don't want an
> expensive.. As much as I can afford is $170.00.. (WITH
> CONTROLER).. New Mitsumis are $180-200 without
> control!..... controls are usually about $30.00.. See???
All the Mitsumi's come with the controller.If you can find a Radio Shack with
an older model in stock you probably can get it for $100 as that is what it is
going for surplus.
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 612
To: DOUG TAXIS Date: 07/15/93 7:15a
Subj: Re: CD ROM Refer: NONE
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DT>get the Toshiba xm-3401b, but they tell it will work with my Sound
DT>Blaster Pro, Other people I talk to that sells the same Toshiba model
I sell the SB Pro and also the Toshiba CDROM.
The SB Pro will work direct with Panasonic without needed controller for
CDROM because it build in with SB Pro.
The SB Pro does not build in SCSI controller, therefore you need to buy
an SCSI controller with Toshiba 3401B. You can make it work together but
you can not make the SB Pro direct hook up with Toshiba.
Hope this clear. But this is your choice. The Toshiba is faster and cost
alot more than to get the Panasonic hook direct to your SB Pro.
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From: CY WELCH Number: 613
To: GAGE Date: 07/17/93 7:59a
Subj: Re: INTERNAL HOOKED EXTERNAL Refer: NONE
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Hello Gage!
16 Jul 93 07:56, Gage wrote to All:
G> Can anyone tell me if there should be a problem hooking up an
G> internal mitsumi CD drive externally to a PS/1? I have tried this and it
G> works BUT only sometimes...the extra power unit (200 watts) which I had to
G> buy to power the drive only seems to work sometimes, when I turn it on it
G> starts fine sometime and other times it won't. I thought it might be just
G> the power unit so I returned it and got a new one...same problem,
sometimes
G> the power unit would start-up and other times it wouldn't. (Yes I had it
G> both grounded and not grounded) I can't imagine I was unlucky enough to
G> purchase two faulty power supplies in a row (or was I?)
My experience has usually been that 200 watt supplies are usually overkill for
a single drive, and don't put enough of a load on them. Computer supplies
REQUIRE a minimum load (as a matter of fact, some of the early IBM AT's, which
were set up as terminals rather than computers, had no HD, and had a LARGE
power resistor to load down the PS so it would work right. You had to remove
this when turning it into a regular computer by adding a HD. You may need to
make sure that you have plenty of load on both the 12v and 5v lines, as that is
usually what causes them not to start up properly.
G> Should this setup work with no problems?
Not in the installations *I* have seen. The other option, would be to get a
LONG extention for one of he drive connectors from your computers PS, and run
it out of the case to the drive, you MAY have to get this custom made for you.
Cy
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From: TIM KLAN Number: 614
To: BILL WYNNE Date: 07/18/93 2:43p
Subj: Re: SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3 REVIE Refer: NONE
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*** Changed by Bill Wynne (1:130/402), Sunday July 18 1993 14:43.
BW>I'm gonna attempt to FREQ either SFROM or EZROM from you when I send this.
BW>I
>really new to having a CD online (2 days), and want to get it up ASAP for
>my users. If, for some reason, you do not have these in your path, is
>there anyway you could please send them to me?
Sorry about that, SFROM120.ZIP and
EZROM120.ZIP are once again FREQable
from my board, and you can grab SMS3.ZIP (so much shareware 3 files
list) while you're at it if you want.
...tim klan
>>Turn down your air guitar.
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From: BOB SMITH Number: 615
To: DOUG CHARMAN Date: 08/10/93 6:44p
Subj: AH AH -- THERE ARE TWO BO Refer: NONE
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DC>Just keep looking around. You could always drive up to Ottawa,
DC>I'm sure that stores there are offering it at a good price. Since
DC>Corel 4.0 is relatively new, there are still a lot of people
DC>willing to sell 3.0 at a good price. Advertise that you are
DC>looking for it in this echo. Maybe mention the fact that you're
DC>located in Canada, it's easier to buy here than across the border
DC>with duty, customs, etc. Good luck and let me know if you're
DC>still having problems, I know a few people here that are soon
DC>going to be upgrading. Please Netmail me at 134/49.
BS> Sorry,but you have the wrong Bob Smith -- this one's an Aussie!
Doug, I did see your above message and thanks for info...Talk about weird..
Could not find an english Corel 3.0 with the Add on book at any Club Price
stores in the Montreal area...Called Corel in Ontario and complained, the
faxed a complaint to the Dir of Club Price in Montreal saying appaling that
I would have to go to Ottawa to buy one... Just today (two weeks after I
bought corel at another store..(but no Corel drawing book with it,.)
I see at club price about ten of them ///What a bunch of ignorant fools
the sales staff are at club price..they say oh no..no more will come in.,.,etc
we wont carry the english version..oh no...
Anyway..regards, from Montreal..
my address is : bob.smith@xonxoff.com
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From: DAVID WILLS Number: 616
To: ALL Date: 08/10/93 5:11p
Subj: ANIME CD? Refer: NONE
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Anyone here know of a CD with Anime (Japanese animation) on it? I
have heard rumors about one CD but no details yet...
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From: JEFF BRIELMAIER Number: 617
To: CORRY MACFARLANE Date: 08/11/93 12:58p
Subj: Re: BBS Door for CD-ROM Refer: NONE
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CM>It can also be downloaded from this BBS (Space Coast BBS)
CM>as well as many other BBS's in the Central Florida area.
CM>You can also download it from America On-Line if you are a
CM>member of AOL.
What the name of the file on AOL (JefferyAB@aol.com)
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From: KEVIN MATTESON Number: 618
To: STEVE PROCTOR Date: 08/11/93 3:11p
Subj: CDROM Drives Refer: NONE
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Steve,
I have a couple of Toshiba XM3201 CD-ROM drives I would like to sell.
These drives are SCSI 350ms access drives. They come with one caddy and are
guaranteed not DOA. I am currently using one with my PAS16 and windows and
have had no problaems whatsoever.
Internal Unit ................. $175.00
External Unit ................. $225.00
Prices include delivery anywhere in continental U.S., Terms - prepayed by
certified check or money order. NO CODS.
I occasionally consider trades: Memory, 486cpus, 200+ meg hard drives, sound
cards, SCSI cards, etc.
Thanx K.M.
(209) 732-4800
NetMail 1:214/33
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From: MARK WOMACK Number: 619
To: ALL Date: 08/11/93 6:52p
Subj: Mistumi/Sb/Sbpro Refer: NONE
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I hooked up my Mitsumi's sound output to my SBPro the other night
and it works great. Instead of messing with the pins, I just
took the sound in through the SBPro's line input and turned the
mixer on with a line in my autoexec file! It works perfectly.
But while I was looking at the SBPro board, I noticed a plug that
was identified as PC SPEAKER. Does anyone know anything about
this? The manual has no explanation of what it's for. It's 2
prongs and my speaker wire won't match it because it's 4 prongs.
I wonder what output goes to the speaker - the sound output? And
would that mean that I would miss the beeps the motherboard sends
the speaker occasionally?
Also, I don't suppose Creative Labs has an upgrade offer running
with the Soundblaster cards. I know that companies occasionally
offer upgrade programs so I thought I'd ask around.
... Forgive your enemies... But never forget their names...
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From: MARK WOMACK Number: 620
To: JOHN SERRANO Date: 08/11/93 6:55p
Subj: Loom on CD Refer: NONE
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JS> I just bought an NEC CD-ROM drive that came bundled with software,
JS> notably LucasArts "Loom." It's a great game, but the only problem is
JS> that I need a hint on how to get out of a sticky situation.
JS> You see, I've made it as far as the foundry-I'm in it, but since
JS> the person with whom I've exchanged identies died (meaning I no longer
JS> look like him), I'm basically stuck inside, listening to the
JS> conversation between the foreman and the Bishop, as well as the
JS> incessant pounding by Edgewise:)
JS> Thanks for your assistance,
John, I'm stuck in exactly the same place!!! I don't seem to be able to
get out of this one. It took me a while to get INTO the foundry (grin).
I think we need to do something to the woodbin. I don't know what but
it's about the only thing that we can click on and I've already done
everything to the door and straw that I can do.
... Psychic pygmie escapes from jail: small medium at large
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From: MARK WOMACK Number: 621
To: BETH CORRIGAN Date: 08/11/93 6:58p
Subj: kodak photo CD Refer: NONE
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BC> does anyone know how i can get photo cds made or where i can get them
BC> made. also if anyone has the phone # of kodak please post it! thanxs
BC> for any info!
Beth, try Wolf Camera if you have one in your area. I went to a photo
specialty store who sent it to Kodak. It is a pain finding these
places isn't it!? I would try calling every conceivable place in the
phone book.
By the way, the price varies, but it can be as high as $2 per picture
put on the disc.
... White Dwarf seeks Red Giant for binary relationship.
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From: GLENN SANDERSE Number: 622
To: SHAWN RUTLEDGE Date: 08/11/93 12:08a
Subj: Cd writing service Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Give me a voice phone # and I'll have a U.S. retailer give you a call as
soon as the Ricoh recorder starts to ship. (They have the recorders, but
not the software yet.) Dataware is somewhere in MA, I'll find a number for
you.
___
This copy of Freddie 1.2.5 is being evaluated.
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From: ED YEE Number: 623
To: ALL Date: 08/10/93 11:46p
Subj: CD-ROM Cache Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
What CD cache should I use. I've heard lots about Lightning CD, Norton
Speedcache, and even Smartdrive. Which should I use to give me a better boost
?
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From: JOHN PEARCE Number: 624
To: LOIS FRANKEL Date: 08/11/93 6:00p
Subj: Re: new adult cd-rom echo Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message to Don Rieb, you wrote:
LF> 1. Echo moderators can set whatever rules they like. No one's free
LF> speech is impaired, as they can always go to another echo.
Well said!
Greetings to you and tell Herb "Hello" too.
LF> ... A clean desk is a sign of a cluttered desk drawer.
'Tis the truth! <G>
-John-
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 625
To: RICHARD NIXON Date: 08/11/93 12:59p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM INTERFACES Refer: NONE
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BF>>Also, thoughts on SCSI cards.
BF>Always IN-2000 - don't settle for lesser Adaptec stuff....
RN> Ouch! I had the IN-2000 and was not pleased with its performance and
RN> ability to handle more than just two HDs.
RN> I am running Adaptec 154x cards now and have not had any problems.
The Always card is in no way superior to the Adaptec line. In the
first place, the IN-2000 only comes as an ISA card, no MCA or EISA support. I
do believe it is an ISA busmaster, but on an ISA system, only one busmaster is
allowed, so one cannot utilize any other busmasters with an IN-2000. Also,
using an ISA busmaster basically limits the useful system RAM to 16 Megabytes.
Also, Always has refused to produce OS/2 drivers for their card, while Adaptec
is supported right out of the OS/2 box. I am running an Adaptec 1742 EISA
busmaster SCSI HA under OS/2 2.1, and it runs wild circles around the IN-2000.
Les
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 626
To: CARLOS BENITZ Date: 08/11/93 3:54p
Subj: Re: Magnto-optical disc Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
HP>-> HP> Okay, The MO drive in the articles I have read, uses a laser to
HP>-> HP> soften the plastic so a magnetic beam can change the disk.
HP>->
HP>-> A magnetic beam? Are you sure?
HP>Yep, absolutely.
CB> I'm surprised. I didn't know it was possible to make a magnetic
CB> beam.
It isn't. The entire explanation was bogus. IF the LASER beam
softened the plastic, you would wind up with a molten disk in a hurry, and if
they could generate a "magnetic beam", then they would not need the LASER.
How is it done?
The LASER is used to arrange the magnetic domains, with one arrangement
representing a 1 and the other a 0. To read the information, the LASER writes
out a 1, and if that action causes a small induced current in a nearby read
head, then the bit was a zero, otherwise it was a 1. If it was a zero, then
the now false bit is immediately rewritten.
Les
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From: DAVID M. WHITE Number: 627
To: TOM GUELKER Date: 08/11/93 1:36p
Subj: PDR Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TG> DMW> Can you tell me where you got the Physicians Desk Reference on
TG> floppy-all
Thanks for the information-I have two Software Etc. within 5 miles of where I
live and will give them a try today.
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From: ED YEE Number: 628
To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Date: 08/11/93 9:37p
Subj: Mitsumi Support Refer: NONE
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IA> Chicago
IA> 2101 Arlington Heights Rd.
IA> Arlington Heights, IL 60005
IA> Tel: 708-593-7600
IA> Fax: 708-593-7610
IA>
IA> Santa Clara
Are there any in Canada ?
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From: ED YEE Number: 629
To: ALL Date: 08/11/93 9:40p
Subj: Mammals CD Refer: NONE
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I've got the Mammals CD-ROM and it doesn't quite work. The requirements states
that I must have everything IBM PS/2. All the other requirements, I've
exceeded. It works fine until the title screen. My computer doesn't hang and
my keyboard still works. There is a little button that says begin, but my
mouse can't seem to activate the button (Begin buttong on screen). When I push
f1, I get "reference file not available" or something like that. All I can do
is push Alt-Q to exit. What is wrong and how can I fix this. The friend who
lent me this CD doesn't have a PS/2, nor is his computer system and CD-ROM
sophisticated as mine, but it works on his computer.
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From: ED YEE Number: 630
To: ALL Date: 08/11/93 9:48p
Subj: MSCDEX Refer: NONE
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Which version should I use ? The one that came with the CD-ROM, the one in DOS,
or the one in Windows ?
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From: DOUG BARTHOLOMEW Number: 631
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/11/93 8:37p
Subj: Re: DOWNLOAD OUR CATALOG!! Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Mike Shannon to All <=-
MS> To all CD users who would like to receive Starvector's catalog of the
MS> 300+ CD-ROM titles that we stock, please feel free to call our new BBS
MS> at 509-457-0206. The system is using a U.S.R. Sportster V.32bis, so
MS> you should have no problem logging on at any speed between 300bps and
MS> 14,400bps.
I called your BBS on 8-10-93 and made a connection at 14.400. I was in
the middle of downloading your catalog, when something happened to drop
the carrier. I have made several attempts to call back and cannot get a
connection. It goes through the normal handshaking procedure and before
the modems get hooked up it drops carrier. I have had no problems with
accessing any other system.
Doug Bartholomew
... Multitasking = screwing up several things at once.
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From: KIM JOHNSON Number: 632
To: FERNANDO GUIMARAES Date: 08/10/93 10:21a
Subj: Test Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>
>* Em mensagem destinada a All, Darrell Crone escreveu :
>>this is a test if you recieve this please send me a reply...
>>Thanks
>>Darrell
>
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>> * Origin: (1:396/90.0)
>
>Hi Darrel,
>
>Your message is arrived in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.
>
>Sorry by my poor english... :-)
>
> Bear Hug,
> Your Friend,
> Fernando Guimaraes
> Sysop of Star Lights BBS
> 4:802/23
>
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>(4:802/23)
>
saw it in sun prairie, wisconsin....
kim
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From: TIM KLAN Number: 633
To: KYLE PINKLEY Date: 08/09/93 5:09p
Subj: CD Refer: NONE
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KP>Can you run the PC Sig 11 Shareware CD on a BBS? Wondering.
If you send them $25 a year for licensing fees, they'll send you the
license to run it on a single node bbs and a door that makes it usable.
...tim klan
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From: GUILHERME MOURA Number: 634
To: CHRIS CONKLIN Date: 08/09/93 3:00p
Subj: Free Catalog Refer: NONE
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CC> C-3 Production Systems is now online. If you would like to receive
CC> catalog of CD-ROM disks at discount prices, leave message here, give
CC> me a call or write to the address below.
Please send a catalog to
Guilherme Moura
Rua da Hora, 625/805
Recife/Pe - Brasil
cep. 52020-010
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From: GUILHERME MOURA Number: 635
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/09/93 3:06p
Subj: CD PACKAGE DEALS Refer: NONE
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MS> House of Games
MS> Game Arena
MS> ----------
MS> $35
MS> SPECIAL BONUS: Powerpak Gold 3.0 Revised Edition only $4 w/ purchase!
MS> STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 *
MS> VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs /
MS> $.50 ea pc over 5
Do you send it for Brazil ? How much with the Mail Tax ?
Gui.
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From: GUILHERME MOURA Number: 636
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/09/93 5:07p
Subj: Re: RED HOT SUMMER Refer: NONE
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BO> >> You can send it for Brazil ???
BO> Yes, we can send packages all over the world.
BO> >> Uses Amex or Credicard ??
BO> We accept Visa/MasterCard as payment and do not charge a
BO> sur-charge for thier usage.
Do you have a complete catalog to send me by Mail ??
If you have it, My Mail Adress is:
Guilherme Moura
Rua da Hora, 625/805
Recife/PE - Brasil
Cep. 52020-010
BO> Hope this helps....
Yeah... Thanks...
Gui.
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From: CHRIS BOURNE Number: 637
To: ALL Date: 08/11/93 5:45p
Subj: CSS CD Price List Refer: NONE
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For more information or ordering call CSS at 517-263-0017 1pm - 7pm. Or order
online from our online shopping mall by calling 517-263-0273 speeds to 14.4.
Mastercard/VISA/AMEX/Discover/COD accepted!
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7th Guest 60.00
Adventures of Willy Beamish 35.00
Aircraft Encyclopedia 42.00
American Business Phonebook 1 24.00
American Business Phonebook 2 33.00
Amiga AB20 21.50
AMSoft World of Ham Radio 34.00
Animals MM San Diego Zoo 32.50
Animals MPC San Diego Zoo 32.50
Arthur's Teacher Trouble 34.00
Audobon's Birds 32.00
Audobon's Mammals 32.00
Barney Bear Goes to School 27.00
Barney Bear Goes to Space 27.00
Battle Chess Enhanced 37.00
Beauty and the Beast 37.50
Bible Library 36.00
Bibles and Religion 21.50
Britannica Family Choice 38.50
Britannica Select Software 38.50
Business Master 25.00
Business Master 25.00
C User's Group Library 36.50
California Collection 22.00
Career Opportunities 34.00
Carmen Sandiego Deluxe 33.50
CD PowerBox 39.00
CD WinBox 39.00
Chessmaster 3000 32.00
CIA World Fact Book 29.00
CICA Microsoft Windows 21.00
Classic Collection Plus 4-Pack 59.00
Clipart Galore 37.50
Clipart Goliath 21.50
Clipart Heaven 34.00
Colossal Cookbook 21.50
Complete Bookshop 21.50
Composer Quest 43.50
Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia 114.00
Compton's MPC Encyclopedia 84.00
Compton's Multimedia Encyclopedia 84.00
Conan the Cimmerian 40.00
Consumer Information Disc 44.00
Crossword Cracker 29.50
Danger! Hot Stuff 25.00
Danger! Hot Stuff II 30.00
Deathstar Arcade Battles 21.50
Desert Storm 41.00
Desktop Bookshop 33.50
Dictionaries and Languages 21.50
Dictionary of the Living World 43.50
Dinosaur Adventure 39.00
Education Master 25.00
Electronic Home Library 42.00
Encyclopedia of Clipart 33.00
Encyclopedia of Sound 27.00
Family Doctor 34.50
Font Master I 24.00
Font Master II 33.00
Food Analyst 41.50
Fresh Arte 41.00
Front Page News 31.00
Game Master 25.00
Game Pack I 30.00
Game Pack II 32.00
Games 1993 33.00
Garbo MS-DOS/MAC 20.50
GIF's Galore 21.50
Gigabtye Gold 30.00
Global Explorer 102.00
Golden Immortal 30.00
Great Cities, Volume 1 30.00
Great Cities, Volume 2 30.00
Great Wonders of the World 48.00
Guinness Disc of Records 32.00
Hacker's Chronicles 32.00
Ham Radio 3.0 21.50
Hobbes OS/2 (OS/2 Archive CD-ROM) 21.00
House of Games 34.00
Illustrated Holy Bible 54.00
Interactive Story Time, Volume 1 30.00
Interactive Story Time, Volume 2 30.00
International Business and Economic Atlas 29.50
Jedi Collection 3-Pack 54.00
Jets and Props 36.50
Jones in the Fast Lane 28.50
Just Grandma and Me 47.00
KGB World Fact Book 38.00
Kings Quest V 30.00
Klotski 24.00
Languages of the World 53.00
Library of the Future, 1st Edition 59.50
Libris Britannia 49.00
Lion's Share 33.00
Loom 30.00
MacMillan Children's Dictionary 44.00
Magazine Rack 29.50
Magnum One Shareware 34.00
Marketing Master 1992 24.00
Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing 33.50
Mayo Clinic 40.00
Microsoft Bookshelf 63.00
Microsoft Cinemania 63.00
Microsoft Works 63.00
MIDI Music Shop 37.00
Mixed Up Mother Goose 29.50
Monarch Notes 69.00
Money, Money, Money! 29.50
Monster Disc 2-Pak 49.00
Mother Earth 2 33.00
Mother of all Clipart 29.00
MPC Wizard for Windows 19.00
National Business Directory 44.00
National Geographic Mammals 32.00
National Parks 37.00
Night Owl's Business Disc 29.00
Night Owl's Business Disc 29.00
Night Owl's v4.2 27.00
Night Owl's v5.0 28.00
Night Owl's v6.2 29.00
Night Owl's v7.0 30.00
Night Owl's v8.0 34.00
Night Owl's v9.0 39.00
North American Fax Book 54.00
Ocean Digital Imagery 50.00
Original Shareware 1992 23.00
Otherware I 30.00
Our Solar System 21.50
Pascal Paradise on CD-ROM 39.00
PC Gameroom 33.50
PC Medic 38.00
PC-Sig #12 35.00
Peter and the Wolf 32.00
Phoenix v3.0 26.50
Pier 1 34.00
Pier 2 50.00
Plant Doctor 42.00
Profiles of Colleges 39.00
Programmer's MegaPack 39.00
ProPhone 1993 133.00
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From: CHRIS BOURNE Number: 638
To: ALL Date: 08/11/93 5:45p
Subj: CSS CD Price List Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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>> Continued from previous message <<
Publique Art 41.00
Publish-It! 34.00
Publisher's Dream Disc 43.50
Publisher's Paradise 40.00
Reader's Library 37.50
Reference Library 32.50
Return to the Moon 43.00
Roger Ebert's Movie Companion 48.00
Sci-Fi 33.50
Secret of Monkey Island 30.50
Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe 33.00
Shakespeare 22.50
Shareware Extravaganza 49.00
Shareware Online 34.00
Shareware Overload 21.50
Shareware Studio I 26.00
Shareware Studio II 32.00
Sherlock Holmes 22.50
Sherlock Holmes, Consulting Detective 30.00
Simtel 20 21.00
So Much ScreenWare 33.00
So Much ShareWare I 27.50
So Much ShareWare II 34.50
Software Vault 30.00
Software Vault II 34.00
Sound Sensations 21.50
Sound Works 24.00
SoundWAV 34.00
Source Code CD-ROM 25.00
Space Quest IV 30.00
Spirit of Excalibur 43.50
Sporting News 31.00
Sports Best on CD 33.50
Stellar 7 30.00
Street Atlas USA 93.00
Super Games for DOS 23.00
Super_CD 30.00
Super_CD II 34.00
Talking Jungle Safari 42.50
Talking Schoolhouse 42.50
TechnoTools 21.50
Tempra Access Photo CD Software 37.50
Terrorist Group Profiles 45.00
Time Magazine Compact Almanac 33.50
Timetable of History: Science and Innovation 31.00
Too Many TypeFonts 21.50
Toolworks Illustrated Encyclopedia 2.0 44.00
Toolworks MPC Encyclopedia 1.0 54.00
Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia 5.0 54.00
Total Baseball 40.00
U.S. & World Atlas 34.00
U.S. Atlas with AutoMap 34.00
U.S. Presidents 42.00
VGA Spectrum I 22.00
VGA Spectrum II 30.00
Visions of Saturn 30.00
Vital Signs 44.00
Wild Places 29.00
Window Master 25.00
Windoware 21.50
Windows 1993 33.00
Windows Shareware Gold 42.00
Wing Commander II Deluxe 63.00
Wing Commander/Ultima VI 30.00
Wing Commander: Secret Missions 34.00
WizPak 22.00
World Atlas 34.00
World of Flight 39.00
World of Trains 39.00
World Traveler 24.00
World View 29.00
World Vision 3-Pak 52.00
Wrath of the Demon 43.00
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 639
To: LOIS FRANKEL Date: 08/09/93 6:04p
Subj: new adult cd-rom eche Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Yours was the most thoughtful reply/rationale I've read to date on this
subject. Thanks for an objective (and non-judgmental) offering.
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From: MARK ULRICH Number: 640
To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Date: 08/10/93 7:39p
Subj: Walnut Creek Releases Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please send me an updated catalog:
Mark Ulrich
2525 Bay Area Blvd., Suite 450
Houston, TX 77058
Thanks,
Mark
Mark
* 1st 1.10 #681 * The future isn't what it used to be...
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From: JAMES BUTT Number: 641
To: CHRIS HARRIS Date: 08/11/93 9:05a
Subj: Cd'S On Sale! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Chris,
I would like to know more about where I cal to purchas these CD prices
are hot!
James Butt
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From: STEVE GERWECK Number: 642
To: ALL Date: 08/09/93 7:52p
Subj: Just to let you know Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi gang -
Just wanted to let you know that the boards that carry fidonet echoes in my
area have experienced problems with the feed this past week. So, if you sent
me a message this past week and still want or need a reply, please repost your
message and I'll get back with you ASAP! Thank you...
Steve
... Clintonomics: trickle down depression.
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From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 643
To: CRAIG BAKER Date: 08/12/93 8:58a
Subj: Re: NEWS ABOUT P.C. BIGJOE BB Refer: NONE
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CB> Is it possible to run more than 4 drives on one
CB> Hitachi bus card?
If you have the kind of drives that have 8 jumper settings.
CB> What I am thinking is that I have 4
CB> 3500s (purchased from you) and 4 1503s (externals).
I don't know... I don't sell the 1503s. You ordered 2 3500's from me on March
23.
CB> The interface card has both internal and external
CB> connectors so I can physically connect the drives (4
CB> internal, 4 external).
You can put 8 connectors on on the internal OR external cable but unless the
drives have more than 4 jumper settings two of them would be trying to use the
same setting.
CB> However the drives only have
CB> switch selections 1-4. Any ideas or am I in left field?
Yes! That is what I've been trying to say.... you have to get another
interface card or find some drives that have more switch selections.
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From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 644
To: ALAN SAWYER Date: 08/11/93 12:49a
Subj: conflicts Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Well you have two possibilities about the conflicts #1 if there is a DMA
conflict you should run your sound blaster environment settings program
to see what your dma is set at and if when you boot you have the SEt
BLASTER line that says the dma it uses if the set blaster thing is there
and everything try changing your dma to another # you can do that by
running your environment settings program or if you have a clone card I
dunno must have software if not then its a hardware thing and you have
to change your IRQ (Interrupt request #). I've noticed only time ever
to get a message like that if your IRQ is set to the same number as some
other device on your system. If thats not the problem and it is really
your in a virtual dos session I have no clue maybe there is something
running in the background or something maybe a tsr or hd cache or
something that is bugging if that is what it means try renaming your
config.sys and autoexec.bat to some other name and then reboot so it
doesn't execute nothing see if that helps. If the two things don't help
above then I'm probably as lost as you.
Louis
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From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 645
To: STEPHEN HARRINGTON Date: 08/11/93 3:23p
Subj: Cd-Rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> dearly love one myself, there are perhaps more cost-effective
-> solutions available... for example the new Panasonic series
-> CR-562B/563 drives hook up directly to a SoundBlaster Pro/
-> SoundBlaster 16 ASP, and while slower than the Toshiba at 320ms or
-> so, still have the 300kb/s double speed and XA, Photo-CD,
-> Multi-session etc that you need, for a much more reasonable $400.00
-> Australian or so... including interface card if you don't have a
-> SoundBlaster to hook it up to... I'm VERY happy with mine so far... I
-> couldn't justify the extra $790.00 for the Toshiba myself.
Toshiba's are overpriced and so are sony's and nec's. I've been
checking around to see what cd rom has the best features for the best
price it the panasonic model 562B puts all other cd roms to shame. The
features it has is 320ms access time, 300kb transfer rate PHOTO CD
multisession compatible, dual speed, can hook up to the sound blaster
pro, self powering tray with an eject button, 64k cache which i heard
from some people improves the performance of the cd rom by 500% which
used a disk cache but it comes with 64k hardware cache. The funny thing
though is NOBODY is selling them in my area and I'd like to get one here
instead of ordering in the states and paying duty for it. But I'm
definately going to buy a panasonic best features for the best price the
only thing their selling in our areas are the most expensive models and
the cheap models (mitsumi's) but not the panasonics.
Louis
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From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 646
To: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON Date: 08/11/93 9:13p
Subj: SBPro CD ROM Drives Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Just want to ask you a ???, is the new Panasonic 562B model CD-ROM
-> drive compatible with MULTI-session photo CD & is it entirely
-> compatible with OS/2 2.1 & if it isn`t, can we get a driver for it???
From reading tones of messages yes the panasonic is multi sessional
photo cd compatible don't know about os 2 2.1 though it should be ok.
I don't own a cd rom yet but will be picking up a panasonic 562b very
soon.
Louis
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From: YVES DESJARDINS Number: 647
To: CHRIS ROBINSON Date: 08/11/93 11:26p
Subj: 16 bit cards Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Chris!
10 Aug 93 14:58, Chris Robinson wrote to All:
CR> I am preparing to buy a 16 bit sound card soon. What do all you users
CR> recommend ??? I am cuurently trying to decide what the good and bad
CR> points are for the PAS16 and the SB16 ASP. Any suggestions?? I plan on
CR> adding a double speed drive in the near future. How do these sound cards
CR> hook up to the cd-rom drive and does one card have better features to
CR> accomodate the cd-rom drive over the other? Please help if you can.
CR> THANKS !!! CR
I just bought the Multimedia Pro16 II from Media Vision. The bundle contains
the ProStudio16 sound card, NEC CDR84 (internal, multispin, multisession) plus
10 CD'S. I would recommand this sound card to anyone who wants to buy a 16
bits sound card. It is fully compatible with the sound blaster, the sound
quality blows you away and it has a standard SCSI interface built-in on the
card.
The SB16 ASP is also a 16 bit card, however I don't believe the CDROM
interface built-in is a standard SCSI, therefore you limit yourself on which
drive to buy later on.
Yves
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From: RICH RUBIN Number: 648
To: ALL Date: 08/11/93 11:16a
Subj: Various Stuff... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Greetings All,
Does anyone have or know anything about Jutland? It's a WW1 naval
simulation. Is it good, bad, great, anything?
Also, I've seen different CD players say that they can 'read' 600 megs
or 700 megs or some other number. What does this mean? If I install a
cd player that can read, say 600 megs, then put on a 700 meg cd, can the
player read it? I'm confused about this...
Also I might want to sell my Microsoft Encarta CD... I'm looking
for $150. It is not new. Let me know via this conference.
Also IMHO adult cdroms SHOULD be discussed here. As long as no
profanity is used, there is nothing but reviews and/or trades and/or
sales. After all nobody is explaining what the cd's contain in
detail... We all know already... I for one would like to know how much
a certain cd contains, what kind of various files, price, quality, et
cetera... Thanks...
--- MsgToss 2.0c
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From: STEVE PESANT Number: 649
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/11/93 9:44p
Subj: CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Howdy Mike; Thanks for the reply:
SP>...My
SP>first order will be off
SP>and running immediately...
MS> Sure Steve, here they are:
MS> 1. Night Owl 7.0 2. Storm 1 3. Southern Beauties 4. Hot Pix 3
MS> ------------- ------- -------------- ---------
MS> $69 $69 $95 $85
MS> 5. Night Owl 8.0 6. Night Owl 9 7. All Beauties
MS> $55 $59 $65
MS> (There are more, but I don't think Bob wants me posting over 10 lines
MS> worth of advertising) <grin>
Sorry to be a pain in the &&#$%@ but um... Well, It wasn't one of those
packages...I wouldn't be ordering Adult ROMS cuz of those guys at customs seize
aboslutely everything... and I already have Night 8.0 and 9.0..
It may have been something do do with the Pier Versions 1.0 and 2.0 and
something else..(I'm sorry to be such a nuisance but my mind is going <grin>
SP>BTW - I requested the Night Owls 7.0 to be held
MS> awhile ago...Do you still hav
SP>thtone set aside for me? (Please?!?!?!)
MS> Sure do.
SP>In those packages you gave the option of purchasing
SP>the Powerpack Gold v.3 fo
SP>$4 with a purchase (Put me down for one of those disks too please.)
Is there anything else that is on sale that is in the lines of Shareware...I'm
just finishing up a BBS setup and am looking for a bunch of different disks...
Please note: I'm a starving student...So those disks that are REALLY expensive
are not much use <grin>.. I hear the Monster Disk 1993 isn't too bad...Any
thoughts on that disk?
How much are the disks right now for Night Owls 5.1 and 6.0....It probably
odesn't hurt to have the whole series...They are pretty decent...
If you have any other good disks that might be of interest please inform
me...I'm really interested in disks with DEMO PROGRAMS...Such as those found on
the Night Owls Disks 8.0 and 9.0...Also Music related CD too...
Thanks alot for your help .\\ ...Oh before I go...What are COD Terms like to
be shipped to Vancouver Area... And have you released a new product catalog
since the last update 6/1/93?
-=Cheers=-
Steve.
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From: STEVE PESANT Number: 650
To: JONATHAN WARNER Date: 08/11/93 10:33p
Subj: Night Owl 9 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JW> I am having problems with Night Owl 9. The whole CD does not seem to read
JW> correctly on my drive, yet every other CD reads correctly. About half the
JW> files are OK but some directories don't read at all or
JW> comes up with rubbish
JW> and causes a drive read error. There does not seem to
JW> be a pattern with the
JW> errors either. The CD was purchased mail order from the
JW> US, but I hear that
JW> some UK BBS are running fine with NO9. Is there a patch
JW> or something that I
JW> require? Can anybody help with this please?
It is your drive...Are you using a Mitsumi? Is it an older one? I use a Mitsumi
too. But my Night Owls 9.0 works well...So don't worry...There is nothing you
can do...Find someone I guess that has a better drive...You get what you pay
for with the Mitsumi...
-=Cheers=-
Steve.
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From: STEVE PESANT Number: 651
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/11/93 10:43p
Subj: MORE BRAND NEW CD'S!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Mike:
MS> BRAND NEW CD ARRIVALS AT STARVECTOR!
MS> Soundware Coll'ctn..$27 So Much Shareware 3.$28 QRZ
MS> Ham Radio.......$19
MS> Hobbes OS/2 1993....$16 Hamware 1993........$28
MS> Game Arena..........$13
MS> Eagle Eye Shareware.$25 Up All Night........$19
MS> Precision Mapping...$88
MS> Fantazia Fonts/Snds.$29 Electronic Cookbook.$33
MS> Learning Adventure..$13
MS> M/M Computer Tutor..$30 Sound F/X Library...$29
MS> Cookbook Heaven.....$27
MS> Int'l Graphics Libr.$33 Musical Instruments.$58 The
MS> Holy Bible......$24
What So Much Shareware 3.0 like...File size...Dupes...The works?
Which disk is better between the Sound F/X/ Library and the Soundwre
Collection...Virtually the same price but what do we get with these?
-=Cheers=-
Steve.
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From: STEVE PESANT Number: 652
To: DON RIEB Date: 08/11/93 10:45p
Subj: Re: CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi there Don:
Just to give you a little help with PC-SIG disks...Yes they are pretty good.
Lots of information regarding each file and a pretty good selection of
files...However, do not use it on your BBS...It must be specially licensed by
PC-SIG to do so...Doing so otherwise is a violation of copyright laws and you
could face prosecution regarding this matter.
If you are really interested in using PC-SIG on your BBS. Contact PC-SIG and
get the license...They'll send you the related materials to get you going.
-=Cheers=-
Steve.
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From: TANYA BROCK Number: 653
To: JOHN BLOOM Date: 08/10/93 2:59p
Subj: Re: Two mitsumi drives? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting John Bloom to Tanya Brock <=-
JB>
JB> Sorry to jump in like this.
JB> Tanya there a drivers now for os/2on the ibm bbs.
No reason to be sorry! Will call IBM pronto to get a password!
....Later....
Called the OS/2 BBS and couldn't find anything online so I downloaded
the ALLFILES list and searched thru that. Still couldn't find anything
so I called OS/2 Support. They say "we do not support the Mitsumi
drive". Could you perhaps be a bit more specific about this driver?
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From: TANYA BROCK Number: 654
To: LESLIE THOMAS Date: 08/10/93 2:59p
Subj: Two mitsumi drives? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Leslie Thomas to Tanya Brock <=-
LT> I they are just sitting on the shelf, would you be interested in
LT> selling either one, or both of the drives, I have been looking for
LT> some. I you are interested, please mail me back with what you are
LT> asking for them. Individual prices please, I am not sure if I can
LT> afford both.
I am selling the slower one to a friend along with a system and the
faster one I am keeping. I just found out that there are some drivers
on the IBM BBS so hopefully I will have at least 1 drive back up on my
system. Sorry.....
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From: ROD IFFINGER Number: 655
To: ALL Date: 08/10/93 8:42p
Subj: dos 6 & SB-CDs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS
DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS HIGHSCAN WIN=F500-F7FF WIN=F200-F4FF
BUFFERS=15,0
FILES=100
DOS=UMB
LASTDRIVE=H
FCBS=16,0
DEVICEHIGH /L:1,12048 =C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE
DOS=HIGH
SHELL=C:\DOS\COMMAND.COM C:\DOS\ \E:512 /p
BREAK=ON
COUNTRY=061,,C:\DOS\COUNTRY.SYS
DEVICEHIGH /L:1,44496 =C:\DOS\DBLSPACE.SYS /MOVE
STACKS=9,256
DEVICEHIGH /L:1,11856 =C:\SBPRO\DRV\SBPCD.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:220
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From: ROD IFFINGER Number: 656
To: ALL Date: 08/10/93 8:45p
Subj: dos 6 & sb-cd's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have just converted my system from dr-dos 6 to ms-dos 6 and cannot get my
soundblaster card and cd to work. By stepping through the config.sys it seems
to load ok but the autoexec.ba file gives the following errors;
C:\SBPRO\DRV\MSCDEX.EXE /V /D:MSCD001 /M:15
SET BLASTER=A220 I7 D1 T4
SET SOUND=C:\SBPRO
C:\SBPRO\SBP-SET /M:12 /VOC:12 /CD:12 /FM:12
LH /L:1,13984 C:\DOS\SHARE.EXE /L:500
PATH C:\;C:\DOS;C:\EXCEL;C:\WINWORD;C:\WINDOWS;C:\MENU;C:\PCPLUS
PATH C:\DOS;C:\DBP;%PATH%
PATH C:\DOS;C:\SAMPLER\TOOLS;%PATH%
VERIFY OFF
LH /L:0;1,42400 /S C:\DOS\SMARTDRV.EXE
PROMPT $p$g
SET TEMP=C:\TEMP
SET PCPLUS=C:\PCPLUS
MOUSE
C:\DOS\MOUSE
DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS
DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS HIGHSCAN WIN=F500-F7FF WIN=F200-F4FF
BUFFERS=15,0
FILES=100
DOS=UMB
LASTDRIVE=H
FCBS=16,0
DEVICEHIGH /L:1,12048 =C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE
DOS=HIGH
SHELL=C:\DOS\COMMAND.COM C:\DOS\ \E:512 /p
BREAK=ON
COUNTRY=061,,C:\DOS\COUNTRY.SYS
DEVICEHIGH /L:1,44496 =C:\DOS\DBLSPACE.SYS /MOVE
STACKS=9,256
DEVICEHIGH /L:1,11856 =C:\SBPRO\DRV\SBPCD.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:220
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 657
To: STEWART ROTHMAN Date: 08/11/93 7:15p
Subj: Re: PRO AUDIO OR SOUNDBL Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Stewart!
On 08-08-93 Stewart Rothman wrote to Rowan Evans...
SR> >RE> You forgot to add that the PAS 16 SCSI port is slower than a
SR> >RE> molasses drip at the North Pole!
SR> >
SR> Sorry Rowan, but you're using a very wrong example......
SR>
SR> I live in Fairbanks, Alaska, about 12 miles North of North
SR> Pole, Alaska and in the summer when it's 80 above and
SR> warmer, molasses runs very well and fast. In winter when
SR> it's 50 or 60 below, it won't run at all, so nothing
SR> could be slower as it's standing still.... rigidly!!!!
Yep, that's what I meant! A max transfer rate of 680Kbps on the PAS
compared to 2Mbps for an Adaptec 1540 SCSI HA is a *VAST* difference....
Especially when the question revolved around adding a SCSI HDD off the
PAS SCSI HA....
SR> Incidently, I also have a PAS 16 card in my 386-33 Northgate Elegance
SR> system and my External Toshiba T3401B that is plugged into it's SCSI
SR> Port runs very fast and efficient in BOTH winter and summer!!!!!!!!
SR> At times I forget I'm using a 200 ms access drive as it
SR> appears to be as fast as my 15 ms access time Hard Drive.
SR> I know that's not possibile and it isn't, it just appears
SR> so. From your answer to the person who was commenting on
SR> it, it's obvious that you've never used a 3401B plugged
SR> into a PAS 16 SCSI card!!!!
No, but I have used an NEC 74-1 and an NEC 55... both 300Kbps, the 74 is
rated at 280 ms avg access, the 55 at 350+.....
SR> I've never used a SOUNDBLAST, but if it's faster than the PAS 16,
SR> it must be greased lightning through salt air!!!!!!
Well, T7G install stated that throughput on the Panasonic CR563 was
584Kbps in its test... The NEC 55 could only get a straight 300Kbps....
I'm planning on buying some CD-ROMs from Profit Press, so I'll get their
CD-ROM benchmark and run it against the various drives I have available....
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 658
To: TOM MILLER Date: 08/11/93 7:17p
Subj: Re: Encyclopedias Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Tom!
On 08-09-93 Tom Miller wrote to Rowan Evans...
TM> The Software Toolworks Encyclopedia that comes with the
TM> Soundblaster is the latest Windows version, 1.5. The same
TM> as the latest Groliers version available which is also 1.5.
Thanx! If this fact was made known, then Groliers would have a *H*LL* of
a time selling any copies under their own label! Especially as the only
copy of Groliers I've seen had a $A675.00 proce tag on it!
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 659
To: TIM WENAS Date: 08/11/93 8:12p
Subj: Mo Disk Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Tim!
On 08-07-93 Tim Wenas wrote to Steven Goh...
TW> Hi there steven: I believe the MO disk prices were 40$ for
TW> ONE 20 meg removable, but I'm not sure...
20 meg is FLOPTICAL, not Magneto-Optical....
Floptical uses a disk similar to a 3.5" floppy with optical tracks
written on it for head positioning....
Magneto-Optical uses a cartridge that looks like a CD-ROM in a jewel
case with a shutter....
TOTALLY DIFFERENT technologies!
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: POE LIM Number: 660
To: PETER RALLIS Date: 08/12/93 1:00a
Subj: SCSI card for CD-ROM drv. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Peter,
On Aug 04 20:00 in a msg to Poe Lim, Peter Rallis of 1:128/13 wrote:
> "The 400 is both I/O register and command compatible with the
> Adaptec 1540/1542 series running under any operating systems
> currently supporting Adaptec drivers. The following operating
> systems currently support the Adaptec:
> ****
> * OS/2 2.O
> ****"
That sounds interesting; are they better than the Adapt4c as far as speed and
transfer rates go, and are they Fast SCSI-2?
> BTW is Poe in fact your first name as in the Occidental manner or
> last as in some Oriental of the cultures' manner?
No, Poe in this case is my first name as in the occidental manner (as well as
dropping my so called middle name), as the correct way of spelling it was
causing too much confusion.
Cheers,
Poe
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From: DAVID BERNARD Number: 661
To: BRUCE BOWMAN Date: 08/11/93 8:23p
Subj: CD-ROMs and DESQviewi Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
|BB>Ah...this isn't the same driver that came with my drive! I |
|wonder what the odds are of what you have working with my |
|drive? It's a BSR 6800MX. |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
I have the BSR 6800MX, didn't you say you got if from DAK? Call the DAK
Computer Support Group at (800) 395-9876 or DAK's Product support group
at (800) 888-9818. There is a 24 hr BBS support at (818) 715-7153 where
you can send questions and get answers @ 2400 baud, no parity, 8 data
bits, 1 stop bit or Fax them at (818) 704-8581. Have your Config &
Autoexec available for them. They can get you the latest software and
help. Ltr...David
___
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From: WES THOMPSON Number: 662
To: DANNY TONG Date: 08/11/93 1:30a
Subj: Re: PROAUDIO 16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> At least we know MV has decent customer support.
Yeah, that is partially true... sometimes when I call for help, i get
someone who knows nothing!!!
> Haven't had any problems with my setup.
Is your drive multi-session? If it is then you got the newer one.
Mine is the older, non-multi-session drive!
> * SLMR 2.1a * I hate you, you hate me, let's throw Barney in the
> sea.
GREAT ONE!!!!
Thanks,
Wes Thompson (Shrewsbury, PA)
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From: CHARLES HART Number: 663
To: ANDREW BARFOOT Date: 08/11/93 8:04p
Subj: x-rated cd-rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AB >Not that I want to "expose" my preferences, but I thought you guys
>came from the land of free speech etc. (1st amendment isn't it?) Now
>you talk of turning of the echo so your members won't be exposed.
>Some of them may like it. Sounds like you you are imposing
>censorship on your members if you do that (did you run a ballot and
>ask what they wanted or is this proposed action arbitary.
Change is inevitable, so why fight it? Echo rules and members change
over time and the interests of the broad majority of the users vary with
the growth in members. It would appear the moderator has sampled the
message stream and found it needing some tempering - if you dislike the
new rules, you have the simple option open to any of us who disagree
with the moderator: You may leave the echo. Period. As has been made
very clear to all who attend these messages bases, an Echo is an
absolute dictatorship of the moderator with dissent banished to NetMail
- and from what I can see the network is the better for it.
AB>Perhaps you should turn a Unix or an OS/2 type echo off because you
>don't want your members exposed to a system you don't like...
That has happened on an occasional BBS. If the users desire the missing
information they go to another of the literally thousands of BBSs
available. Seems pretty simple to me.
AB>Has anybody asked those who have not complained what they think. If
>there is perhaps 1,000,000 readers of this echo, do you make rules to
>suit 100 or perhaps 1,000 who complain? I have not seen one complaint
>reach the BBS I get these messages from.
Remember the crack about netmail above? Could it be that the moderator
has been receiving _lots_ of messages asking for this new rule by users
who (glory be) _followed_ _the_ _rules_ and complained by netmail? I
understand international netmail works, too.
Oh, and for the record, in case my attitude did not give it away I think
the moderator has done the right thing.
AB>Don't forget, in enlightened countries such as those this echo
>reaches, the readers can always stop reading, not buy the naughty
>cd's, not go to XXX rated movies etc., etc., etc. Perhaps you should
>let the users decide...
See above. How do you know he has _not_ let the well behaved, polite
rule following users decide?
AB>Who was it that said...
>"I DISAGREE OF WHAT YOU SAY, BUT WILL DEFEND TO THE DEATH YOUR RIGHT
>TO SAY IT"
Somebody born before the Supreme Court reminded the world that free
speech does not exist in isolation, it exists in context - and shouting
"Fire" in a crowded theater is clearly an act of speech that should be
punished absent a real fire. This context (echo) has been closed to
certain speech - but that does _not_ prevent you from finding another
friendly echo and talking about the subject all you want.
Good luck.......
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From: DAVID BERNARD Number: 664
To: ALL Date: 08/12/93 6:43a
Subj: Sport Almanac Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey I am looking for a sport encyclopaedia with stats and details. I am
aware that Sports Illustrated has one out called CD-ROM Sports Almanac.
Does any one have the Sports Illustrated CD or one that is better? What's
the cost and details of how to purchase it? Ltr...David
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From: RON CHASE Number: 665
To: ALL Date: 08/07/93 9:58p
Subj: over 700mb cd-drive Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Help
I need a reasonable priced cd-rom that reads disks over 690mb?
which one does this? how much?
* OLX 2.1 TD * OREGON SPORTS BBS 503-726-0240 24 hr buy and sell
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From: SAMSON LUK Number: 666
To: JAMES FRAZEE Date: 08/11/93 9:59p
Subj: Re: BBS Door for CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
James Frazee wrote in a message to Samson Luk:
-=> Quoting Samson Luk to All <=-
JF> If you find one,could you call and upload it to (206)
JF> 691-5042 I will be trying to run RomBrain,that is for
JF> DOOR.SYS bbses.
I am currently using EZ-ROM v1.2, pretty good but again it was NOT specifically
design for updating Maximus's LASTUSER.BBS, by no mean users' download KB
within the door can pass back to Maximus. I did wrote to the author with
LASTUSER.BBS structure in C attached but got no respond...
Regards,
Samson
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From: DAVID TORIX Number: 667
To: CRAIG DOBIE Date: 08/11/93 9:57p
Subj: BBS Shareware CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CD> I know there are some sharewhere CD's formated for BBS's (FILES.BBS)
CD>wondering if anyone has one or knows where I can get ahold of one.
CD> Craig Dobie
CD> Sysop: Monty's Place BBS
CD> Fort Worth, Texas
Check out Big Sky Rom, From this origin, or (406) 586-8344.
Comes with Files.bbs, PCBoard DIR files, and 4Dos descriptions, plus
5min install. (Seriously!)
Dave
* OLX 2.1 TD * If we knew what we were talking about, we'd be dangerous
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 668
To: ALL Date: 08/11/93 2:00a
Subj: CD-Rom Dupes Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
------------------------------------------------------------------------
SHAREWARE CD-ROM DUPLICATION COMPARISONS
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Using Bob Neal's "CD-ROM DUPLICATE ANALYZER" v 1.0
CD-Rom Total Files CD-Rom Total Files
Big Sky ROM 6985 So Much Shareware 3 5597
Night Owl 9 4735 So Much Shareware 2 4666
Night Owl 8 4950 CD Powerbox 6800
% OF DUPLICATE FILES AMONG POPULAR SHAREWARE CD'S
---------------------------------------------------
>> Note: Diagonal reflects % of INTERNAL dupes within a given CD. <<
>> Top number is number of files. Bottom number is percentage. <<
Big Sky N.Owl 9 N.Owl 8 Powerbox SMS3 SMS2
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Big 2 142 488 464 315 336
Sky .02% 1.21% 4.08% 3.36% 2.5% 2.88%
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N.Owl 142 5 65 8 666 23
9 1.21% .1% .67% .06% 6.44% .24%
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N.Owl 488 65 12 97 489 146
8 4.08% .67% .24% .82% 4.63% 1.51%
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Pwr 464 8 97 17 471 663
Box 3.36% .06% .82% .25% 3.79% 5.78%
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SMS 315 666 489 471 0 1543
3 2.5% 6.44% 4.63% 3.79% 0% 15.03%
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SMS 336 23 146 663 1543 7
2 2.88% .24% 1.51% 5.78% 15.03% .15%
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For file lists and the latest catalog.zip, call Computer Works BBS.
Computer Works Jim...
CD-Rom Sales!
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card & COD Orders
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From: ANDY DOWNEY Number: 669
To: LUCIANO MUNHOZ Date: 08/12/93 8:03a
Subj: Best cd-rom? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LM>What's the best CR-ROM driver?
LM>I want to know the fastest one and the cheapiest.
If you mean CD ROM *Drive* well, I picked up a Panasonic (CR562) Doublespeed
CD Rom for $279. It has a 320 ms average access time and a 300 kb transfer
rate.
You want to look for low average access time, and a high transfer rate.
Many popular cheap CD ROMS have about 380 ms access time and 150 kb transfer
rate. The cheapest I've seen for those is about $184 (Mitsumi). Look in a
Computer Shopper.
On the other hand, I opted to pay another $100 to get 320ms access time, but
with a 300 kb transfer rate. It works great, even on my 386DX-25.
I got this mail order from Underwood Distrubutors at 1-800-295-8701. They are
a distributer of products for Computer Smart Co. 8200 S.W. Barbur Blvd.
Portland, OR 97219 (503)246-0004
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From: ANDY DOWNEY Number: 670
To: WEE YUNG Date: 08/12/93 8:03a
Subj: Cdrom forsale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
WY>CD-ROM Panasonic 562B 320ms w/contlr caddyless 300k/s 64kcache.$279.
Maybe you can help me. I bought a Panasonic 562 recently and the cable (not
the ribbon cable) that plugs into the four-pin port on the CD ROM drive does
not match up with the appropriate port on the Sound Blaster Pro card. The
sound card wants a four-pin end, but the other end of the cable only has
*three* pins. What would you advise. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
===
* OLX 2.2 * Never violate the Prime Directory! C:\
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From: BOB HALL Number: 671
To: LOU NERVEGNA Date: 07/16/93 4:05p
Subj: Re: MAKE MONEY!! MUST READ!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
This is a national echo. Your message has _nothing_ to do with the
topic at hand, which is CDROM.
Please do not enter a message of that nature in this echo again.
Bob Hall
Moderator.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 672
To: TERRY WOODWARD Date: 07/16/93 4:08p
Subj: Re: CD ROM MASTERING COMPANIE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TW>Bob,
TW>Do you have a list of CDrom mastering companies? I'm looking to have
TW>five to 10 thousand copies of a Mac cdrom pressed. I'm not terribly
TW>impressed with the prices I've gotten so far.
gimme a call at 405-672-1708
Will see what I can do.
BOB
:-)
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 673
To: DAVID ROBERTS Date: 07/18/93 11:59a
Subj: Re: BEST NIGHTOWL 9 PRICE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DR> so whats your real price since Ismail is selling this disk for $29?
I said I would meet the price, so it's $29.
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 674
To: JASON PAUL Date: 07/19/93 12:48a
Subj: Re: BASEBALL CD Refer: NONE
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>> Does anyone know if there is a baseball CD out there that has
>> a lot of trivia and stats on it?
Yep, we have a cd called "The Wolrd Of Baseball". It contains the
information you require and it's priced at $29.00. Inetrested ??
Give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy to help
you further.
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... Simply more bang for your bucks!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 675
To: JOHN HUNTER Date: 07/19/93 12:48a
Subj: Re: MULTI-CD-ROM DRIVES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Hi!,
>> Can anybody tell me of any multi cd-rom drives?. I would like
>> to have 6 or so cd-roms available at once.
Yes John, the Pioneer is a 6 disk changer and they come in two versions.
One is the DMR600 that offers 600ms access time and 150kps transfer
rate, while the other is the DMR604X, which offers 300ms access time and
600kps transfer rate.
If your interested, please feel free to drop us a note via the node/net
number below or your welcome to fax us your request at 216-225-6759 and
we'll be happy to assist your further.
Yes, we do ship anywhere in the world and accept Visa/MasterCard as
payment.
Boris Osadciw
... Every Silver lining has a clone around it.
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 676
To: ALL Date: 07/19/93 12:48a
Subj: Re: RED HOT CD'S Refer: NONE
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$$$$$$$ R E D H O T C D' S A T R E D H O T P R I C E S $$$$$$$
ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 - PRICE - $35.00ec
ALL NEW - SHAREWARE VAULT 2 - MONSTER MEDIA '93' PRICE - $25.00ec
ALL NEW - HOT PIX 5 - DIGITAL DREAMS - SWIMWARE 93 PRICE - $30.00ec
ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM PRICE - $35.00ec
MORE SPECIALS - WINBOX - GAMEWARE - CD POWERBOX PRICE - $25.00ec
PRO PHONE(BUS) $20. WORLD TRAVELER $15. JOKES/PRANKS OR 1001 UTIL $10.
KINGS QUEST VI $55. TOOLWORKS ENCYC - DOS/WIN $50.COMPTIONS ENCYC $60.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK
CALL 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) OR 216-225-3263 FOR ADDITIONAL INFO
Boris Osadciw
... I married the Mail Lady!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 677
To: ALL Date: 07/19/93 12:48a
Subj: Re: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
*************** C D - R O M D R I V E P R I C E S ***************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit - $369.00 Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $459.00
Sony Int 380ms Bare Dr - $285.00 LIMITED Sony Ext 380ms Kit - $395.00
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00 Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
Texel Int Complete Kit - $469.00 Texel Ext Complete - $569.00
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare - $449.00 Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$549.00
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit - $195.00 NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $799.00 Pioneer DMR604X Bare -$1199.
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50. ChestNuts CD's ALL $14.00ec
Information on the above or 400 + CD titles call (216) 225-3263 anytime !
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... Pioneering Off-line Mail Technology!
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From: BRANDON RICKERSON Number: 678
To: STEVE THOMAS Date: 07/19/93 2:20a
Subj: Re: 7'TH GUEST WON'T RUN! ! ! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> I just bought the 7'th Guest and it lloks pretty good. It would be
> better if I could get it to run. I start it up and it goes through the
> opening credits, it then goes into the book with the pictures on each
> page. It animates the picture and talks and then turns the page. Well
> my problem is that it hangs the system at different places in this
> opening scene. It may make it through 3 or even 4 pages but it hangs.
> While displaying the animated pictures the voice tends to get cut short
> and I get a line of graphics garbage across the screen. It then turns
> the page, usually. Eventually it will get the graphics garbage on a
> page and that's when the system hangs. I am running an 80386-25 with 8
Is that mother board a DX or SX. Must be a DX.
> megs of memory, a SB-16, a Smart and Friendly CD-ROM (150kbps MPC
> compatible) and a Reveal VC300 Video card (16M colors, Cirus chip). I
Is that CD-ROM at least 250 ms and is the card a SVGA?
> have taken the config.sys and autoexec.bat down to the minimum and
> still get the same problem. I have tried Vesa drivers and still get the
> same problem. I am running DOS 6. So is there hope for my system or am
> I doomed until I get some
> new hardware?
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From: ANTONY WUTH Number: 679
To: LOU NERVEGNA Date: 07/17/93 10:38a
Subj: Re: MAKE MONEY!! MUST READ!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Lou,
13 Jul 93 16:03, Lou Nervegna wrote to All:
LN> HOW TO MAKE $50,000 with $5, a modem, 5 envelopes, 5 stamps.
LN> I'm Making a TON of money! This is great! Everyone MUST try!!!
Not only is this off topic but Illegal in at least one country where this echo
goes. Please Don't waste <MY> money by posting this Crud.
Thanks
Antony
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From: ANDREW LARMOUR Number: 680
To: ALL Date: 07/16/93 2:52a
Subj: Re: PHOTO-CD IN AUST Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Photo-CD is now available in Australia!!!
I work in a lab which is offering photo-cd services, and the service is
available via selected Kodak Express labs at varying prices depending on what
type of transfer service you need:
Develop, print and transfer 12exp $39.95 disc incl 7 days (E6
process & transfer) 24exp $49.95
36exp $74.95
Standard transfer min 20 exp $2.25 per frame $12 for disc 7 days
Selective transfer min 20 exp $3.00 per frame $12 for disc 7 days
Special transfer min 20 exp $5.00 per frame $12 for disc 10 days
Shoebox transfer min 65 exp $1.50 per frame disc inlc 15 days
(Introductory offer)max 100 exp
Duplicate Photo-CD min 20 exp $1.50 per image $12 for disc 7 days
-- A photo-cd will hold a maximum of approx 100 images.
-- Service times quoted are lab to lab in working days.
-- Service times to NT and remote areas of Aust are 14 working days for all
services.
-- Standard transfer is every exposure transfered. All exposures must be of
the same type (ie. all negs or all slides)
-- Selective transfer is selected exposures transfered, not in any guaranteed
order. All exposures must be of the same type.
-- Special transfer is selected slides or negs in a specified order. -- Negs
or slides in strips less than 3 will be mounted @ 75cents each. -- Thermal
prints up to 8"x10" are also available.
-- Photo-CD is only available on 35mm negs or slides.
In order to do anything other than just view these images, you will need a
fairly powerful machine, Kodak recommend a min of 386SX25, 8Mb RAM, 40Mb free
HD space (100Mb prefered), 24bit graphics card and monitor. The files
themselves are 18Mb in size at full (16Base) resolution and are compessed with
JPEG formulae to around 4.5Mb to 6Mb in size. Each image is stored a 5
different resolutions:
128x192 (Base/16) 'thumbnail'
256x384 (Base/4) Displaying multiple images on the screen
512x768 (Base) TV quality
1024x1536 (4Base) HDTV quality
2048x3072 (16Base) for printing and high quality image manipulation.
The only drives which Kodak will tell me are fully Photo-CD multi session
compatable are:
Apple CD 300
Toshiba XM-3301 BK Drive
Pioneer DRM-604X Minichanger
Sony CDU-561
Phillips CDD-461 Audio
This is by no means a complete listing, but their the only ones which Kodak
know for sure will be fully compatable.
In my opinion, the introductory offer is the way to go if you can get that
many images together. Also, if you transfer 100 images in one hit, then the
disc will only have a single session on it and will therefore be readable by
all those XA single session drives and some non-XA drives.
If you have any further questions regarding Photo-CD, ProPhoto-CD, Photo-CD
players or other related topics, please mail me....
Andrew Larmour
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From: KEN BACHMAN @ 930/1 Number: 681
To: NEIL ALLEN Date: 07/18/93 9:08p
Subj: Re: SHERLOCK HOLMES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Well the version that I have does. Mine is from ICOM SIMULATIONS and
has three cases on it:
Mummy's Curse
Mystified Murderess
Tim Soldier
I know that there are different versions out, because one of the
versions only has two cases on it.
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From: RON FINDLING Number: 682
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 08/11/93 11:41a
Subj: Re: New Mpc Specs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Or one of the other 16 bit boards. I couldn't get
>the Logitech 16 bit sound board to work with OS//2, but the
>Pro Audio Spectrum 16 works just fine.
You mean the Logitech won't work at ALL, or just with the OS/2
multimedia support? How was it with DOS games and the Win-OS/2
multimedia support, for example?
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X SLMR 2.1a X Windows NT startup sound: FLOP.WAV
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From: RON FINDLING Number: 683
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/11/93 10:54a
Subj: New Mpc Specs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> has given a reasonable enough sample for me to say that at least 30% of
> the current PC users have a machine that with minor alterations would
> meet this spec... Namely the installation of a fast CD-ROM or a 1Meg
> SVGA card... This spec and the possible new games/applications written
> for MPC L2 will put a lot of pressure on users to "go the extra"....
I wonder when they'll get around to establishing a spec for the
operating system proper multimedia should run under? I bring this up
because the recent issue of BYTE compared the multimedia support for
Windows to OS/2 and found the former a comparative kludge, difficult
to program in and not very powerful.
One would think that NT would improve greatly on this, but apparently
it'll have the same multimedia stuff regular Windows has - no
improvement...
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From: RON FINDLING Number: 684
To: ED BAILEY Date: 08/11/93 11:01a
Subj: Loom on CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> On 08-05-93 John Serrano wrote to All...
> JS> You see, I've made it as far as the foundry-I'm in it, but since
> JS> look like him), I'm basically stuck inside, listening to
> JS> the conversation between the foreman and the Bishop, as
> JS> well as the incessant pounding by Edgewise:)
> I got stuck at this point for a couple of weeks John, and now that I
> started to write this, I can't remember how I got out of it.
> It has something to do with casting a draft... (etc.)
The draft you have to cast is the reverse Sharpen draft, which when
cast on the sword being made stirs things up (you won't like what
happens...).
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From: VINCE SORENSEN Number: 685
To: MICHAEL MULCAHY Date: 08/11/93 4:25p
Subj: CATALOG REQUEST Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Vince do you have a catalog available yet?
I sure do... I just mailed off your August catalog today. It should
take about a week or so to arrive there, I imagine. I also have an ASCII
version online on my BBS if you want a jump-start. The file name is
CDROMS!.ZIP, and the BBS number is 306-789-8682 (it can also be FREQ'd
from 1:140/121)
Vince
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN Number: 686
To: ALL Date: 08/11/93 11:02p
Subj: CANADIAN CD-ROM CONNECT'N Refer: NONE
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-> CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA * 6 Armstrong Bay * Regina, Sk. S4N 4G7
-> 306-789-4654 Voice * 306-789-8690 Fax * VISA/MC Accepted
5 Star MS DOS Volume 2...... $35 Business Master........$30 All
5 Star MS Windows Volume 1.. $40 CD Winbox..............$45 prices
American Business Phonebook..$40 Clip Art Goliath...... $25 in
Animals Multimedia (DOS/MAC).$45 ColorMagic (PC/MAC)....$40 Canadian
Arthur's Teacher Trouble.....$40 Colossal Cookbook......$25 Funds
Barney Bear Goes to School...$35 Complete Bookshop......$25
Barney Bear Goes to Space....$35 Dictionaries&Languages $25 $0.78US=
Bibles and Religion..........$25 Education Master.......$30 $1.00Cdn
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN Number: 687
To: ALL Date: 08/11/93 11:03p
Subj: SAMPLES FROM OUR CATALOG Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA * 6 Armstrong Bay * Regina, Sk. S4N 4G7
-> 306-789-4654 Voice * 306-789-8690 Fax * VISA/MC Accepted
Mixed Up Mother Goose $35 Precision Mapping $135 All
Monster Disc (2 disc set) $50 Prophone 7 disc set 1993 $210 pricing
Monster Media '93 $45 Prophone Business $45 in
National Parks $35 Publisher's Dream Disk $50 Canadian
Night Owl 9 $35 Publishers Paradise w/manual $45 Dollars
Our Solar System $25 Return to the Moon $50
P.C. Sig #12 $35 Sci-Fi $35
Pinocotheca Multimedia $30 Shareware Extravaganza $70
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From: JERRY WEIMER Number: 688
To: ALL Date: 08/11/93 11:35a
Subj: Mitsumi Help!!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have a Mitsumi CD-ROM that I can't get to work. It won't read a disc. When I
try at the DOS shell it say WARNING! Read Fult and when I try at the
command line it says CDR101:Not ready reading drive D . Any help would be
greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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From: JAMES REYLE Number: 689
To: ALL Date: 08/11/93 11:58a
Subj: Engineering CDs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
To all:
Can any one tell me if there is CD rom disks geared more towanrd the
Technical Engineer. Also, I'm looking for a disk that deals alot with
Patents and developments. Something like what you would find out of
an Almanac.
James Reyle
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 690
To: ALL Date: 08/12/93 12:58a
Subj: NEW CD'S @ STARVECTOR! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BRAND NEW CD ARRIVALS AT STARVECTOR!
Soundware Coll'ctn..$27 So Much Shareware 3.$28 QRZ Ham Radio.......$19
Hobbes OS/2 1993....$16 Hamware 1993........$28 Game Arena..........$13
Eagle Eye Shareware.$25 Up All Night........$19 Precision Mapping...$88
Fantazia Fonts/Snds.$29 Electronic Cookbook.$33 Learning Adventure..$13
M/M Computer Tutor..$30 Sound F/X Library...$29 Cookbook Heaven.....$27
Int'l Graphics Libr.$33 Musical Instruments.$58 The Holy Bible......$24
Am. Bus Phonebk 93..$39 Color Magic Clipart.$28 Aminet Amiga........$15
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
---
* SLMR 2.1a * I used to have a life. Now I have Windows.
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From: MARK WOMACK Number: 691
To: ROY COCHRUN Date: 08/12/93 7:51a
Subj: CD-rom help! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RC> There is a new version of the Mitsumi driver out. Using QEMM, it will
RC> load fine. Also, use the /X switch. You can find the driver on the
RC> QEMM BBS, 1-310-314-3227, free to registered users. I think the
Thanks so much! It never occured to me that QEMM would have a new
driver out for the Mitsumi. Since I just got the drive which was
Mitsumi's "new version" with the 16-bit card, I thought that the
driver was the latest one made. I was happy to find it on the QEMM
board you listed above. I will have to get out the manual to see
about using the /X switch.
The driver DID load high - which is great - but then something else
was kicked out for lack of space (my 144K mscdex.exe file). I guess
the thing to do is buy a cache program that will work with BOTH the
CD and the hard disk. I already have a 1MEG cache set up for the
hard drive.
... This message was posted on recycled phosphor.
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From: MARK WOMACK Number: 692
To: BRUCE BOWMAN Date: 08/12/93 8:09a
Subj: Cd-rom Help! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BB> If you've been using QEMM's Optimize program to order your drivers,
BB> you can just about forget it. My experience, anyway, has shown that
BB> Optimize just doesn't know how to handle CD-ROM drivers (or most
BB> anything else, for that matter). You're a lot better off trying to
BB> figure out the best order and what region to put things in on your
BB> own.
You're exactly right. QEMM "optimize" consistently gave me less memory
when it had to deal with the CD driver. For example, it would get
finished and display a message saying, "you have 98K less now than when
you started." I thought my eyes were playing tricks on me! I can't
really do it on my own because it would be purely taking stabbs in the
dark. I have 4 major drivers I need to have: STACKER 48k, MTMCDE.SYS,
MCDEX.EXE 144K (64 BUFFERS) and PC-CACHE 1M. It can't load all four
of these high no matter what order they're in. I just can't understand
that because I have 4 Megs of ram. I guess there's a few things I don't
know about memory. I always thought that you could load stuff high
until you ran out of extended or expanded memory but I guess that's
not true.
... "To Serve Man" - 101 Recipes for Soylent Green.
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From: MARK WOMACK Number: 693
To: ERIC LOTT Date: 08/12/93 8:50a
Subj: Cd-Rom Help Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
EL> have a 386/DX40 with 4 megs RAM, a 330 meg HD, and a SB Pro. I'm
EL> trying to decide if I should upgrade to a 486 (33 or 66), or get into
EL> CD-ROM. People (who don't know alot) have told me that the SB will
I have the same setup as you do. Here's my advice: Get a CD ROM
instead of upgrading right now. The prices will drop eventually on
the motherboards and it will be easier later. The 486SX/25 is only
marginally faster than our boards.
I just got the Mitsumi 350ms drive from FLEX/USA for $199. It comes
complete with controller and everything. It works perfectly. You can
feed the Mitsumi's sound output into your SBPro's line input and
everything's peachy keen.
Later,
Mark
... Some day they will know what I mean.
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From: MARK WOMACK Number: 694
To: JOHN SERRANO Date: 08/12/93 10:18p
Subj: Loom on CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi John,
JS> I just bought an NEC CD-ROM drive that came bundled with software,
JS> notably LucasArts "Loom." It's a great game, but the only problem is
JS> that I need a hint on how to get out of a sticky situation.
JS> You see, I've made it as far as the foundry-I'm in it, but since
JS> the person with whom I've exchanged identies died (meaning I no longer
JS> look like him), I'm basically stuck inside, listening to the
JS> conversation between the foreman and the Bishop, as well as the
JS> incessant pounding by Edgewise:)
JS> Thanks for your assistance,
I just figured it out. After you listen to the two men's conversation,
there's a moment of silence when the guy with the sword is holding it
up in the air. In that instant, click on the sword and QUICKLY enter
the draft for the SYCTHE (CDDA or ADDC - it's one or the other). From
that point you can move on. I must warn you, that this ushers in
the climax to the game and you will finish it soon after. It took me
about an hour from this point to finish the game. This climactic part
is the best part of the game and I found it to be neat. It was kinda
sad to see the game end. Now I'm ready for Monkey Island and 7th
guest!!!
... It takes a long word to retard spoilage.
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From: ROBERT MOORE Number: 695
To: TONY DAVIS Date: 08/12/93 4:11p
Subj: SHAREWARE CD ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* In a message originally to Denis Coleman, Tony Davis said:
TD> I have to tell you that this is one dangerous ad.
TD> On July 20th, I was arrested and booked on charges of sale &
TD> possession of obscene material. My BBS & all related
TD> hardware was
TD> seized. If found guilty, I am facing up to 15 years in jail
TD> and/or up
TD> to $25,000 in fines.
OK, is that because you violated some local law? Did they give you any
warning? We are in the process of setting up an adult section on our BBS and
I came here looking for CD ROM ads. I would like to talk to you further about
your legal problems (hopefully in order to avoid any in my state!). Were you
charged by Federal, State or local authorities? Please message me here or on
Internet at Robert.Moore@select.wyvern.com
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From: RUSSELL NABER Number: 696
To: DAVID BALNITES Date: 08/12/93 8:12a
Subj: POINEER CD CHANGER SYSTEM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello David!
Tuesday July 13 1993, David Balnites writes to Corry Macfarlane:
DB> Corry, I was looking through an ad in CD-ROM World and found a place
DB> called FSC FlexSys Corporation that sells the DRM-604X for $1795.00 and
DB> the DRM-600A for $995.00. Their # is 1-800-533-7756.
DB> Hope this helps...
DB> David
David,
Do have the address fro CD-ROM world or phone number I would like to check this
magazine out and can't find it anywhere near me. <g>
Russell
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From: DANNY Number: 697
To: ALLEN BURLESON Date: 08/11/93 10:51p
Subj: Willie Beamish Cd Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AB> Has anyone purchased this cd? Saw it pretty cheap at a computer fair.
AB> I haven't played the game before. Is it interesting or boring?
I have it. It's a funny and challenging game. It looks like a kid
game, but it's a lot more than that. Made by Dynamix, part of
Sierra On-Line. I paid $29.
* SLMR 2.1a * I hate you, you hate me, let's throw Barney in the sea.
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From: DANNY Number: 698
To: CHRIS ROBINSON Date: 08/11/93 10:56p
Subj: 16 bit sound card - HELP Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CR> I seem to lean toward the PAS16 because of it's apparent wide
CR> acceptance and SCSI on board. Am I on the right track ?
You're thinking like all the sound card reviewers are. Excellent 16-bit
sound, industry standard SCSI, and the #1 choice of OEMs.
The PAS16 has won every sound card review this year.
CR> Is one 16 bit stereo card compatible with another.
No. They all have their own format. They all emulate the SB and AdLib.
CR> Can the SB16 ASP support software configured for the PAS16 ??
No.
* SLMR 2.1a * ((((((Available in Stereo with Pro AudioSpectrum 16))))))
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From: CARLOS BENITZ Number: 699
To: ALL Date: 08/12/93 1:33p
Subj: Mitsumi Drivers Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
What version/date are the latest Mitsumi (DOS) drivers?
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From: CHRIS ROBINSON Number: 700
To: LOUIS GHINIS Date: 08/12/93 6:23p
Subj: 16 bit sound card Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> -> Is one 16 bit stereo card compatible with another. Can the SB16 AS
-> -> support software configured for the PAS16 ?? This is where I get
-> -> confused. And has anyone seen the Computer Peripherals Maestro 16
-> -> Card, it sounds super but is it compatible to the rest ???? (it ha
-> -> 32 voices)
->
-> I don't own a cd rom yet I was reading on the bbs's by the sound of
-> it looks like all the software packages require 16 bit sound cards an
-> aren't compatible with the old 8 bit sound blasters so the best bet i
-> to get a sound blaster 16 asp or the name is spectrum audio 16 its
-> supposed to be 100% compatible with the sound blaster 16 asp i'd
-> personally go with the sound blaster 16 asp from the sound of it if y
-> get that card you shouldn't have any problems since it does the old
-> sound blaster, adlib plus the new 16 bit standard that they have.
->
-> Louis
-> --- FidoPCB v1.4 beta
-> * Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15)
I learning as I go and so far I've picked up alot. Just so you know,
most software packages (game & business) fully support 8 bit
Soundblasters. While 16 bit support is showing up, it is infrequent but
will quickly grow. The support for 16 bit cards seems to be heavily
aimed at both SB 16 and Pro Audio Spectrum 16. The problem I found is
that the SB 16 ASP still has a proprietary cdrom connector, which limits
your cd-rom choices. The PAS 16 has a genuine SCSI connector which
allows great flexibility. The PAS 16 is SB and Adlib compatible and so
far ALL software I've seen that supports SB 16asp also supports the PAS
16 as well. The SB16 ASP costs around $209 whereas the PAS 16 is at $149
thru many mail order houses. Hard Drive Super Source (mail order co.)
says they far sell more PAS16 than anything. The samething was told to
me here locally. While selling more 8 bit SB than other cards, when it
comes to multimedia packs, the PAS16 MPC systems sell the most.
For whatever its worth, thats what I've learned. I also will be
receiving my PAS16 by FEDX tomorrow. I guess you now know where I stand.
Thanks for the reply. -------- CR
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From: CRAIG SHEPPARD Number: 701
To: ALL Date: 08/12/93 3:42a
Subj: mitsumi Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DH@-}I run WanderLand BBS, and I am looking to add a CD-ROM to my file section
DH@-}my bbs... One of my users offered to sell me a MITSUMI (350ms) CD-ROM
DH@-}drive... Does anybody know if these things are worth having?
Dave,
I have had a Mitsumi drive for about two weeks now and it has
not given me a hitch whatsoever. I use it for the GIFs Galore
CD on my board (609-451-1028 for a quick plug!! :) and for the
occasional game. I'd reccomend it for a good, low-cost way to
add a CD-ROM to your BBS.
Good Luck,
Craig
* SLMR 2.1a * Backup not found: (A)bort (R)etry (P)anic
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From: MARIO DI MAMBRO Number: 702
To: ART MARKO Date: 08/11/93 6:05p
Subj: Re: CD's For Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Art Marko to All <=-
AM> CD's For sale. NO COD's...add $2.90 frt
AM> 1. Encarta {still sealed...new and unopened} $175
AM> 6. MS Bookshelf $25
AM> 7. Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective $15
AM> Art Marko
AM> 2 Oak St.
AM> New Brunswick NJ 08901
AM> 908-545-3004 {Days}
AM> 908-545-6054 {Fax}
Do you still have Encarta? That's the MS Encyclopedia, right?
Is it the newest (only) version? I think I want to buy this from you.
If I don't get any mail back, I'll fax you, once I make up my mind.
... "Could you continue your petty bickering? I find it most intriguing."
--- GEcho 1.00+
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From: WAYNE FINLAY Number: 703
To: DAVID HARRISON Date: 08/12/93 5:55p
Subj: mitsumi Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi!
I run a mitsumi on my BBS...I've had it since April. It works like a charm! I
have had no problems...installation is EASY. Best of all...it is inexpensive.
It's not the fastest CD-Rom however is does seem reliable. For a BBS I think it
is more than adequate. After all, it's cheaper than a hard drive and it's very
easy to get LOTS of new software quickly.
Cheer-I/O!
> Wayne <
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From: JURRIE HOBERS Number: 704
To: ALL Date: 08/10/93 3:43p
Subj: Te koop diverse cdroms! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hallo allemaal!
Ik heb nog diverse cd-roms te koop:
- Creative sounds - vol met sounds in VOC, WAV MID formaat Fl. 50,--
- Playing with language, voor kinderen, ENGELS leren MPC Fl. 25,--
- COREL Artshow, vol met CLipart voor Corel Draw Fl. 50,--
- Phoenix 2.0 Shareware cd-rom Fl. 45,--
- Night Owls 9.0 shareware cd-rom Fl. 100,--
- MM Mammals cd over zoogdieren MPC Fl. 85,--
- Woordenboek in div. talen
(Hebreeuws, Grieks, Japans etc.) Fl. 50,--
- Kings Quest V op cdrom T.e.a.b.
- Klotski, Windows spel gebaseerd op een Pools spel Fl. 50,--
- Mixed up mother goose MPC spel Fl. 35,--
- MPC Wizard, MPC cd rom Fl. 10,--
- Mega demo 1, honderden mb's shareware, mods en gifs!! Fl. 35,--
- XXX-rated cdrom met TGA/GIF/GL/DL/FLI etc.. Fl. 65,--
- Shareware Overload Fl. 50,--
Voor eventuele ruilen van cd's houd ik me ook aanbevolen!
Brand maar los, reacties via dit medium graag!
GreetinX!
Jurrie!
... ...1993...the year of the CD!!!..........
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From: MAHMUT KURSUN Number: 705
To: STEPHEN HARRINGTON Date: 08/11/93 5:07p
Subj: Cd-Rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> While I agree the Toshiba is the "Rolls Royce" of drives at the moment,
> and I'd
> dearly love one myself, there are perhaps more cost-effective solutions
> available... for example the new Panasonic series CR-562B/563 drives
I know a good cost effective solution. Apple sells here in Germany
a external CDROM Drive SCSI for 399 DM. It is the Model 150. As long as
I know you can put the CDROM Drive out of the case and handle it just like
a PC CDROM Internal. 12 V cable and 50 Pin SCSI Cable and for example
Adaptec 1542b/c with ASPICD Driver.
I have tested a Apple CS External CDROM Drive (was a Sony) and it worked
with Adaptec 1542 b and aspicd.
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From: CHRISTIAN Number: 706
To: LOUIS GHINIS Date: 08/12/93 6:30p
Subj: SBPro CD ROM Drives Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thanks for the reply, I`ll see more into this drive but it sure is hard to find
around Aylmer, Qc
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From: RON BYRD Number: 707
To: QMAIL Date: 08/12/93 10:27a
Subj: DROP Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Add, Drop, or Reset a Conference.
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From: PETER GRECI Number: 708
To: ALL Date: 08/11/93 4:16p
Subj: 3D ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
If you do 3D animation or stills you OWE it to yourself to purchase Syndesis 3D
ROM. it is a CD with over 500 3D models in Various formats including
Lightwave,Wavefront,3D Studio,DXF and Imagine Formats(both AmiAmiga and IBM
versions) Excellent Value at $199.95
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From: BOB HALL Number: 709
To: TONY DAVIS Date: 08/12/93 8:33a
Subj: SHAREWARE CD ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thank you Mr. Davis for responding to the post. I greatly appreciate your open
statement in this echo. As you may or may not be aware, the discussion of
adult discs has been banned from this echo.
Again, thanks for posting.
Gimme a call if you want...
948-8212
BOB
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From: BOB HALL Number: 710
To: MICHAEL MULCAHY Date: 08/12/93 8:36a
Subj: MAC CD'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please call the person, and do not post such lenghty messages in the echo,
please.... it will be appreciated..
Bob Hall
Moderator.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 711
To: ARNIE GROSS Date: 08/12/93 8:39a
Subj: CD-ROMS (1 EACH) FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
You have been around the CDROM echo long enough to know, there is a ten line
limit on ads. Thanks for your understanding .... ahead of time.
Bob Hall
Moderator.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 712
To: LOIS FRANKEL Date: 08/12/93 8:47a
Subj: RE: NEW ADULT CD-ROM ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> 1. Echo moderators can set whatever rules they like. No one's free
> speech is impaired, as they can always go to another echo.
True.
> people over 18. In addition, there have been cases of "adult"
> cdrom
> vendors being raided for pornography. It's understandable that
> sysops
> might feel nervous about carrying references to such discs.
One might want to check out a message in this echo from Mr. Tony Davis.
> 3. Many readers of cdrom echos are simply uninterested in "adult"
> discs,
> and would prefer to have smaller message packets by leaving out
> messages
I do appreciate your response on the matter of adult discs. As moderator, and
setting the guidelines to ban the topic, I had very specific reasons, and being
a self appointed 'god' of censorship was _not_ one of them. Some people could
not understand the reasoning, my phone just about rang off the wall over the
issue, but it has sort of passed over.
Again, I do appreciate your response.
Bob Hall
Moderator
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From: BOB HALL Number: 713
To: ALL Date: 08/12/93 8:53a
Subj: RULES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CDROM Echo Rules.
1. Limit the topic to laser optic technology, as related to CDROM, CD-R, CD-I,
multimedia, etc. The discussion of adult CDROM's is banned in this echo.
2. If you leave an ad of any type, please limit it to ten lines or less.
3. Do not over quote. It gets old seeing tons of messages with quotes from
ads, and other information.
4. Do not be excessively annonying.
5. Have all the fun you can stand. :-)
Bob Hall
Moderator
1-405-672-1708
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From: BRUCE NUNNALLY Number: 714
To: ALL Date: 08/12/93 9:32p
Subj: Ss Plays Movies Off Cd! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Now you can use the AVI movies, WAVes, and BitMaPs on your CD's as
screen savers using Projector, a screen saver for windows.
Projector is a standard Windows 3.1+ screen saver which plays movies
or images with sound. Projector will play .AVI movie files, .BMP image
files, and .WAV sound files. Scripts may be constructed, loaded, or
saved using the Projector Setup screen. Projector comes with several
bitmaps, animations, and a movie; a 21 page manual documents each
feature of the program.
Windows 3.1 with VGA required. 256 color or better display recommended.
MPC level 1 or better preferred for movie playback.
Ordering Information:
Projector is available from the author for the reasonable sum of US$15:
Bruce Nunnally, ATTN:Projector
1304 Todd Drive
Plano, TX 75023-1911
Check or money order, please. Additional info by netmail, or
via Compuserve at 73043,3375.
■ WinQwk 2.0 a#0 ■ Unregistered Evaluation Copy
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 715
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/06/93 2:31p
Subj: SONY Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> SP> RE> Then there's the later kits with 350ms Panasonic
> SP> RE> double speed CD-ROM -
> SP> 350ms is considered doublespeed?
> Well, I thought that double speed referred to the transfer rate (300Kbps)
It does - which is why the Pioneer DRM-604X is called a QUAD speed (600K+ DTR)
drive despite having "only" around a 300ms or so Average Access time....
* SLMR 2.1a * Female programers get their bits twiddled.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 716
To: GREG WILLIAMS Date: 08/06/93 2:33p
Subj: MITSUMI DRIVES VS PANASON Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Can anyone tell me if Mitsumi (sp?) CDR drives are PhotoCD compatible
THe LU-005 is supposed to be, the older LU-002 is not.
> and what sort of seek/access time they have?
350ms and 600ms respectively (I have a LU-002, the LU-005 I'm quoting spec
sheet data on).
>Also, how do these drives, which are IDE
These drive are NOT in ANY WAY, SHAPE, or FORM IDE interface. They use a
PROPRIATARY interface that is only supported by Mitsumi themselves, one ATI
sound card, and one other (Gravis?) sound card at this time.
They also are typically bundled WITH a controller card....
* SLMR 2.1a * Bats do it upside down.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 717
To: PAUL SWIDER Date: 08/06/93 2:41p
Subj: CD-ROM QUESTION Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>KC> I was wondering if anyone out there knew if it hurts anything to leave
>KC> a CD-ROM Disk in the drive after I'm finished using it?
>Ken as far as I can tell it doesn't hurt to leave the discs in for long
>periods
If it DID hurt, NO BBS could keep a disc online....
* SLMR 2.1a * Bureaucracy - transforming money into solid waste.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 718
To: CHRIS MOORE Date: 08/06/93 2:43p
Subj: MULTISPIN DRIVES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Does anyone know what "multispin" is all about? Is it just a "NEC-name"
>(sorry), or is it an advance in CD-ROM technology that improves access time,
>sustained data transfer rate, etc.?
It's a "NEC name" for spinning a disc at twice the old "standard" rate, thus
making it possible to double the DTR rate of the drive.
Ditto Pioneer's "Quad Spin" idea, except that the DRM-604x spins the discs at 4
times the "standard" rate....
* SLMR 2.1a * Mary had a little RAM, about a Meg or so....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 719
To: MIKE MEEKS Date: 08/06/93 2:44p
Subj: PIONEER CD ROM CHANGERS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>I'm looking for a "dealer" for the Pioneer DRM 604X; Pioneer's newest 6 disk
CD
>ROM changer in the Central Ohio (Columbus) area. I am also looking for a
>Central Ohio dealer who stocks cd roms for business/professional/engineering.
Isn't Tom Tech in that general area?
* SLMR 2.1a * Heinlein's alive, and still writing in another timeline!
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 720
To: ALL Date: 08/11/93 9:01a
Subj: Night Owl $25 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Night Owl 9.0 For Sale As many copies as you would like for
$ 25.00 a Copy !!!
Call Free Spirit And ask for Barney !
******************
1-800-638-5757
Tell them Kevin sent you for this Deal or
it will be higher.
*[A*[A*[A*[A*[A*[A*[A*[A*[A*[A*[A*[A*[A*[A*[B*[B*[B*[B*[B*[B*[B*[B*[B*[B*[B*[B
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From: ROY COCHRUN Number: 721
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 08/12/93 6:41p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
You> by the way do you have any games for the CDROM?
...
Just what comes on the discs of shareware I buy. I think I'm one of
the few who has little to no interest in games on the computer.
(Although my wife is convinced it is one expensive toy).
...
I finally found a text file that described the settings in the AMI BIOS
that came with my new board. (The file was on one of my ROMs, of
course). I played with the settings and now am working fine, but with
the MTMCDS.SYS, not the faster DMA. I'm happy, at least for now. --
regards, Roy Cochrun
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From: ROY COCHRUN Number: 722
To: ED BAILEY Date: 08/12/93 6:46p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
You> Just to let you know you are not alone in your problem.
...
Just got your message today (12 August). I fiddled with the BIOS
settings (which, by the way dealt with such things as keyboard speed
and other "important" computing settings) and now (through the software
driver) everything is fine! I haven't a clue what's going on, but it
works. -- regards, Roy Cochrun
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From: ROY COCHRUN Number: 723
To: JOHN STRUEMPH Date: 08/12/93 6:52p
Subj: Re: CD-rom help! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
You> emm386.exe
...
I'm using QEMM, but I'm going to exclude all the areas you mentioned
and try the DMA again. I'll let you know. (The software started
working after I fiddled with the BIOS settings for Keyboard speed and a
couple other non-descript things in a text file I found on one of my
discs.) -- regards, Roy Cochrun (Oh, yes, and thanks!)
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From: ERIC SCHONNING Number: 724
To: KYLE PINKLEY Date: 08/12/93 9:55a
Subj: Re: CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
KP> Can you run the PC Sig 11 Shareware CD on a BBS? Wondering.
There are descriptions for the disc on my BBS, if you can FREQ then
request CDCOM.ZIP, PCSIG11.ZIP and AVIEW54A.ZIP. Don't expect too much
from the descriptions however, I didn't have much to work with so did
the best I could. If you can't freq just call the bbs # below, you can
download first call (don't bother trying to run the call back verifier
as it doesn't do l/d at this time) from the bbs file area. The cdcom
file is a door program, you may need doormaster (dm56.zip) or
equivalent to create proper door info file (door uses callinfo.bbs,
future version will also use door.sys). Eric
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 725
To: ALL Date: 08/13/93 1:23a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
*************** C D - R O M D R I V E P R I C E S ***************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit - $359.00 Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00
Texel Int 340ms Bare Dr - $245.00 LIMITED Texel Ext 340ms Kit - $359.00
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00 Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
Texel Int Complete Kit - $469.00 Texel Ext Complete - $569.00
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare - $449.00 Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$549.00
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit - $195.00 NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $799.00 Pioneer DMR604X Bare -$1199.
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50. ChestNuts CD's ALL $10.00ec
ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 726
To: ALL Date: 08/13/93 1:23a
Subj: RED HOT CD'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
$$$$$$$ R E D H O T C D' S A T R E D H O T P R I C E S $$$$$$$
ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 - PRICE - $25.00ec
ALL NEW - SHAREWARE VAULT 2 - CD POWERBOX/WINBOX PRICE - $15.00ec
ALL NEW - HOT PIX 5 - DIGITAL DREAMS - SWIMWARE 93 PRICE - $25.00ec
ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM PRICE - $35.00ec
MORE SPECIALS - AMATURE MODELS - GAME/SOUNDWARE PRICE - $25.00ec
PRO PHONE(BUS) $20. WORLD TRAVELER $10. JOKES/PRANKS OR 1001 UTIL $10.
KINGS QUEST VI $49. TOOLWORKS ENCYC - DOS/WIN $50.COMPTIONS ENCYC $60.
COMING SOON - BLACK BOX 5 - - - 24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK
CALL 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) OR 216-225-3263 FOR ADDITIONAL INFO
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress makes it's motion picture debut as the "The Emailator"!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 727
To: YVES DESJARDINS Date: 08/13/93 1:23a
Subj: Re: CATALOG VIA EMAIL? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Hello Boris!
>> 12 Jul 93 01:45, Boris Osadciw wrote to Tom Menasco:
BO>> Give us your fido address and we'll shoot over a copy.
BO>> + Origin: Buggie Works - The CD-ROM Outlet (216)225-3263 (1:157/46)
>> Boris, I would be interested in getting one of your catalog.
>> Can you netmail it to 1:140/23.3
>> Much appreciated....
As soon as it's completed, we'd be happy too !!
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... Now 100% QWK Compatible! More bang for your bucks!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 728
To: JAMES ZMIJEWSKI Date: 08/13/93 1:23a
Subj: Re: Cd's Refer: NONE
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>> I ordered cd's on monday got them on thursday not bad
>> speed. Do you know of any cd' with avi files on them,
>> so far I found only one called clasic clips but it's mostly
>> old black and white images I'm looking for some thing a
>> little more modern
Not off the top of my head. We're in the middle of a major move here
and we have some cd's here and some at the other location. As soon as
things settle down a bit, I'll check and see.
If you don't hear from us within a week or so, drop us a reminder please.
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... Simply more bang for your bucks!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 729
To: ELLEN COTTON Date: 08/13/93 1:23a
Subj: Re: CD-ROMS WANTED Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Boris, could you please send me your latest CDROM
>> catalog?...I've been monitoring the CDROM Echos for the last
>> month and am getting a 486 w/CDROM drive in the next few days.
>> Thanks! J. Ellen Cotton
As soon as it's completed, you'll have a copy !
Thank you for your interest....
Boris Osadciw
... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 730
To: MICHAEL MULCAHY Date: 08/13/93 1:23a
Subj: Re: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
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>> BO> *************** C D - R O M D R I V E P R I C E S
>> ***************
>> BO> Pioneer DMR604X Bare -$1199. Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or
>> Windows v1. BO> $50. ChestNuts CD's ALL $14.00ec Information
>> on the above or 400 + CD BO> titles
>> Any Mac compatable Encyclopedia ROMs? If so, what's your
>> asking price?
Yes, "Groilers Toolworks" makes a MAC version and we have it priced at
$50. If your interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 and we'll be
happy to help.
Boris Osadciw
... Xpress Yourself!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 731
To: ALAN MCCREADY Date: 08/13/93 1:23a
Subj: Re: PAS16/TEXEL 3024 Refer: NONE
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>> Boris, What is the upgrade kit? I bought a SCSI cable and the
>> drivers Trantor and MSCDEX are included with the PAS16 board.
>> Do I still need something else? If I need this upgrade kit
>> how much is it? thanks Alan
The upgrade kit contains the audio cable, scsi cable, drivers for the
Pro 16 interface and a manual. It's priced at $25. and yes you will
need this if you want to use the Pro 16 as the interface card for your
cdrom system as well as audio output.
Interested, please feel free to give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime
and we'll be happy to help you further.
Boris Osadciw
... Mail Media. Do not expose to Flames!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 732
To: TIM MORAN Date: 08/13/93 1:24a
Subj: Re: RED HOT SUMMER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> In a message to Tim Moran <08-03-93 01:46> Boris Osadciw wrote:
BO>> PID: SX V3.02/4.01H1G01
BO>> >> Do you have OS/2 2.1 on CD?
BO>>
BO>> On it's way in here !!!
>> Do you have a price idea?
On what ????
This is the complete quoted message we received here and as you can see,
not much to give a price quote on.
Boris Osadciw
... If you're not the lead dog, everything looks the same!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 733
To: TOM GUELKER Date: 08/13/93 1:24a
Subj: Re: W.O.R.M. DRIVES Refer: NONE
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>> Hello Boris! I finally persuaded a local BBS to get this echo.
>> I've been "without" for over a year since Comm Central moved
>> out of state.
>> You'll be hearing from me regularly again! You've gotta be THE
>> best dealer in this echo. Price/service/patience are all 100%
>> for this Dutchman!
Tom, glad to see your back with us !!
As from hearing from you, I look forward to it. It's always nice to
talk to old time customers, when I have the chance. Your comments
of praise are well taken and appreciated.
Looking to hear from you soon....
Boris Osadciw
... Xpress Yourself!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 734
To: GIANG NGUYEN Date: 08/13/93 1:24a
Subj: Re: W.O.R.M. DRIVES Refer: NONE
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>> This is VERY interesting. $369 for aWORM drive? Were you
>> misstype?.....is this machine new or used?.....How many do you
>> have left?
Nope not a mistype at all. These units were refurbished and carried
a full year warranty on them. As of this date, they are no longer
available, but we will be getting in some half height units at about
$469., which will offer a little more speed and carry the same
warranty.
Interested, please call us at 216-225-3263 and we'll be happy to help
you further.
Boris Osadciw
... Happy as a Pig in Mud!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 735
To: CRAIG DOBIE Date: 08/13/93 1:24a
Subj: Re: BBS Shareware CD Refer: NONE
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>> I know there are some sharewhere CD's formated for BBS's
>> (FILES.BBS) I was wondering if anyone has one or knows where
>> I can get ahold of one.
Craig, theres a ton of them out there right now. It all depends on
what you want to offer your users as to what you should put online.
As a general rule, most shareware cd's today sell for around $25 - $29.
and are a very good value for the money.
Interested in knowing more, please call us at 216-225-3263 anytime
and I'am sure we can help you out with some of the latest and greatest.
Boris Osadciw
... Every Silver lining has a clone around it.
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 736
To: HAROLD LEDUC Date: 08/13/93 1:24a
Subj: Re: Deep throat Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GK>> I would like to know if there is anybody who has seen the CD-ROM "Deep
>> Throat"... Is it a movie or a game??? I've seen the ads but don't
>> know what to think of it...
>> THERE was a movie by that name I don't think it on cd but it
>> could be?
Just a point of interest, yes it's on cd in full living color !!!
Hope this helps...
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... Don't Read Mail Without it!
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From: SHAWN CLARK Number: 737
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/11/93 2:34p
Subj: Re: CD SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey Mike how much information is on the Shareware Overload CD-Rom Disk? Does it
have clipart on it?
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From: SHAUN RADER Number: 738
To: ERIC LOTT Date: 08/12/93 11:46a
Subj: Cd-rom help Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
<<***** On 08-09─93, ERIC LOTT wrote to ALL: (Text edited) *****>>
EL>true? Basically, I'd like to know what some of you would do,
EL>upgrade the CPU, or go for the drive, keeping in mind that I am an
EL>avid game player.
The Panasonic CD-ROM drive is the only one made to work with the SBPro.
If you use any other CD drive, it probably won't work. If I were you,
I'd upgrade to a 486. I have a CD-ROM and a 486, I'd rather have the
486. The CD-ROM is great, but the software out for it right NOW doesn't
justify getting one (over a 486 at least).
With a 486, you will be able to speed up everything on your computer.
There is a big difference between a 386 and a 486's speed. Basically
right now.. the only thing I use the CD-ROM for is research. It's GREAT
for school, but there aren't that many games out. I wish there were
more games out...
-Shaun Rader
~~~
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From: DAVID M. WHITE Number: 739
To: ZACHARY HAMM Date: 08/12/93 1:48p
Subj: BSR TECH SUPPORT # Refer: NONE
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ZH> that DAK sold? DAK will not support it after 30 days.
I don't have the support number for BSR, however, I am glad you posted the
above information as I was getting ready to order from DAK-don't think I will
now though!
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From: NIGEL ZETT Number: 740
To: ALL Date: 08/12/93 4:24p
Subj: Mitsumi on a chain Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello all: I am interested in the Mitsumi CD-ROM, and what would be involved
with hooking up multiple units. Can I chain more than one drive off the same
interface or do I need to install a separate interface for each unit? Also, do
I have to install a separate driver and/or MSCDEX for each?
I see a lot of people on this Echo SELL DRIVES, so who has the best price on a
2+ Mutsumi "bundle" (give price breaks for 2 to 8 units).
Please send info or Freq a copy of your catalog....
Thanks... Nigel.
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From: NIGEL ZETT Number: 741
To: ALL Date: 08/12/93 4:30p
Subj: Explain Sound Cards to me. Refer: NONE
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No, I'm not as stupid as the title suggests. What I'm confused about is what
are the MAJOR differences between the (seemingly) 1000+ brands of sound cards.
I know that some have SCSI or proprietary interfaces for CD-ROM, some have
32-bit PCM samples while others have only FM synthesis (a la Yamaha), some have
MIDI ports or 16-64 channel 'Multi-port' MIDI, and I even understand that some
samplein mono and some in stereo, some with 'lousy' sample rates and some with
CD quality (although I've yet to see one that actually samples at REAL CD
sample rates (ie 38.1KHz).
So with all that (plus those that have SVGA all on one card), what are the REAL
DIFFERENCES and types in each category of card, and which brabd is the best
value in each category, and who on this Echo has the cheapest prices...
(No small request.....) Thanks! Nigel.
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From: SEAN EAGAN Number: 742
To: STEVE PROCTOR Date: 08/12/93 11:51a
Subj: *wanted! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Steve
On your 4 Toshiba CD-ROM's! Lemme have your Phone and we'll
discuss a payment on them! I don't wanna rip you off nor offer you the world so
please let me know! Leave your number of give me a call! I am VERY interested
in the CD-ROMS so please reply in kind! And Thanx!
Sean Eagan
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From: SEAN EAGAN Number: 743
To: STEVE PROCTOR Date: 08/12/93 11:53a
Subj: *wanted! Refer: NONE
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Steve
Oooops Didn't give you my number!
Here it is!
Sean Eagan at (216)869-4030 Voice
Look forward to hearing from you!
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From: JOE HAYES Number: 744
To: JANUSZ SUROWKA Date: 08/06/93 12:22p
Subj: CD-Speedway Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JS> put about 32 Megs of cache on it.
You must mean to cache to a disk drive right?
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From: ALLEN BURLESON Number: 745
To: SAM FERTITTA Date: 08/12/93 12:01p
Subj: RE: WILLIE BEAMISH CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Sam,
Thanks for the mini-review. Maybe that's part of the reason the computer fairs
have it for $18. Speaking of the price, I noticed "Space Quest 4" is in the
same price range. You know if that's decent? Either way, I think both cd's
would be a good buy.
Allen
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From: PETE MURRAY Number: 746
To: ALL Date: 08/12/93 9:52p
Subj: Sound Blaster's CD ROM Refer: NONE
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Yo All,
Has anyone heard about the new Sound Blaster CD ROM, MPC2, to be
put out in about three weeks for only $200 RETAIL???? I heard this from
a salesman at Egghead's and I have heard none other about it.
Pete
* OLX 2.2 * Not tonight dear... I have a modem!
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From: DAVID TAM Number: 747
To: ALL Date: 08/13/93 12:02a
Subj: CD-Rom's? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I overheard someone around our local area talking about setting up a "killer"
BBS.... he said that he would have a 6-disc multi-changer CD-ROM.... do they
actually have these out? I guess I must be REALLY new to CD-ROMs....
Dave
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From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 748
To: ERIC LOTT Date: 08/11/93 9:19p
Subj: Cd-Rom Help Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I really need some advice and help concerning CD-ROM. Right now I
-> have a 386/DX40 with 4 megs RAM, a 330 meg HD, and a SB Pro. I'm
-> trying to decide if I should upgrade to a 486 (33 or 66), or get into
-> CD-ROM. People (who don't know alot) have told me that the SB will
-> only work with the Creative Lab's drive (Panasonic), is this true?
-> Basically, I'd like to know what some of you would do,
-> upgrade the CPU, or go for the drive, keeping in mind that I am an
-> avid game player.
Creative labs have already made a deal with panasonic they've already
released (amazing drive amazing price!) the panasonic CR-562B check out
the specs 320ms access time, 300kb/sec transfer speed, 64k cache (helps
a lot!), powered tray with eject button, THE ONLY device that can be
plugged onto the sound blaster pro or sound blaster 16, photo cd
compatible multi session in both formats also XA the price altogether
with interface card cheapest i herad is from cd rom access $249
american. To get the same type of system like a sony one would cost me
TWICE as much. This device is surely going to bring down
sony's,nec's,toshiba prices down drastically (will take time though).
The mitsumis are around $190 american but their not as good they cannot
plug into the sound blaster pro, don't have a 64k cache, isn't FULLY
photo cd compatible has 350ms access rate not 320ms so for another $60
american getting a $600 system for only $249. I'm definately going to
buy a panasonic 562b model even though they haven't YET! started
shipping to canada because it just got released this month in the u.s.
and australia but atleast I can always order over the border and be the
first canadian <hehe> to have a panasonic 562B drive.
Louis
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From: JOHN STEPHENSON Number: 749
To: ALL Date: 08/07/93 5:45p
Subj: Night Owl 9 ? Refer: NONE
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Has anyone got NO9 ?
Is it a vast upgrade to NO8 ?
Cheers,
John Stephenson
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From: SIMON GRONOW Number: 750
To: JOHN STEPHENSON Date: 08/11/93 7:28a
Subj: Night Owl 9 ? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello John!
07 Aug 93 17:45, John Stephenson wrote to All:
JS> Has anyone got NO9 ?
Yes
JS> Is it a vast upgrade to NO8 ?
Yes it is..
Your local supplier is KM Computers on (003) 43-3200
Simon Gronow
The Software Works, mail by the Bay
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From: STEPHEN HARRINGTON Number: 751
To: ALASTAIR EDGINGTON Date: 08/11/93 6:58a
Subj: WINDOWS NT and Soundblaster Pro CD-ROM drivers Refer: NONE
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-= Alastair Edgington said to All about WINDOWS NT and Soundblaster Pro CD-ROM
drivers: =-
AE>I'm in desperate need of a WINDOWS NT compatible SoundBlaster Pro
AE>CD-ROM driver.
There is a Beta version of the Windows NT SoundBlaster Drivers that I've seen
on the Creative Pacific BBS here in Sydney, Australia. Phone number is
(02) 906-8392. File name is CDNTIN.ZIP. I think, after a quick look, that
it's only for the newer CR-563 double speed drives but I may be wrong!
Regards,
Stephen Harrington
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From: STEPHEN HARRINGTON Number: 752
To: SEAN TUDOR Date: 08/12/93 10:26a
Subj: Panasonic CR-562B CD-ROM drive. Refer: NONE
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-= Sean Tudor said to Stephen Harrington about Panasonic CD-ROM drive.: =-
ST>Regarding your message about the CD-ROM drive - what model have you
ST>got and where did you purchase it ?
It's a Panasonic CR-562B, price was AUS$395.00 inc. tax, bought on 29th June.
Don't know if that price is still current... Ring Nick Agosta at Osborne
Computers at their new North Ryde, Sydney, office and see if he can help you.
As far as Rowan Evans (who put me onto the deal, thanks again Rowan!) and I can
tell, the 562B is the OEM model of the 563 double-speed drive which comes with
the newer SoundBlaster CD-ROM upgrade kit. I think the difference is that
the 563 has a serial-digital audio out and the 562B doesn't, but I can't
find any reason/device that would use this at present. Maybe someone can
enlighten us! It comes with it's own interface card, but I'm successfully using
mine hooked up to my original SoundBlaster Pro (not even Pro 2!), and I know
Rowan has sucessfully used them with his SoundBlaster 16 ASP. It is by no
means the fastest access time drive at 320ms, but at the price you can't beat
it! Is of course 300kb/s, XA, Photo CD Multisession etc. compatible. You also
have to get hold of the SBCD.SYS driver to run this way, at present it is
available on the Creative Pacific BBS (02) 906-8392, file name is CDR562.ZIP.
Hope this helps...
Stephen Harrington
P.S. Make sure you remind Nick to give you the audio cable to connect from the
analogue audio-out of the drive to the 4 pin audio-in on your SB 16!
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From: DAVID CHADWICK Number: 753
To: JOHN SERRANO Date: 08/11/93 12:49p
Subj: Re: Loom on CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting John Serrano to All <=-
JS> I just bought an NEC CD-ROM drive that came bundled with software,
JS> notably LucasArts "Loom." It's a great game, but the only problem
JS> is that I need a hint on how to get out of a sticky situation.
JS> You see, I've made it as far as the foundry-I'm in it, but since
JS> the person with whom I've exchanged identies died (meaning I no longer
JS> look like him), I'm basically stuck inside, listening to the
JS> conversation between the foreman and the Bishop, as well as the
JS> incessant pounding by Edgewise:)
Hi John,
You need to cast the spell for sharpening in reverse on the man
hamering the swords. This spell can be found back at the glassmakers by
getting to the top of their tower where the two men are sharpening that
blade. Its a little tricky to get up there but I'll let you try and work it
out :-) If you need further help just ask....
Regards,
David
... RAM DISK is NOT an installation procedure!
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 754
To: ED YEE Date: 08/12/93 9:06p
Subj: Re: PAS16 OR SBPRO16ASP? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Ed!
On 08-09-93 Ed Yee wrote to Rowan Evans...
.. [Rogue Message deleted]..
EY> Why did you send this message to me again, months after the
EY> first time I read it ?
Not me! I only sent it once, there must be a rogue node out there that
holds packets back (or they come around via Europe!). I have seen a
few msgs lately in the Int'l HD Conf. that had dates of June/July,
so this seems to be a reasonable supposition!
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 755
To: SEAN TUDOR Date: 08/12/93 10:04p
Subj: Panasonic CD-ROM drive. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Sean!
On 08-10-93 Sean Tudor wrote to Stephen Harrington...
ST> Regarding your message about the CD-ROM drive - what model have you
ST> got and where did you purchase it ?
ST>
ST> I would certainly be interested as I already have a Sound Blaster 16
ST> and would like a CD-ROM drive that connects direct throught the sound
ST> card - especially if it is only $400 new.
Talk to Nick Agosta at Osborne Computers, Sydney.... The "Special
Introductory Price" was $395.00 for CD-ROM + paddle card + cable + driver.
To connect to your SB 16, use the cable from the kit (badger Nick for the
audio cable too , or it'll cost you $10.00 or so!) and then download
from Creative Pacific BBS (02) 906-8392 the file CDR562.ZIP. This has
all the necessary CD-ROM drivers and software (CD player, etc)...
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 756
To: DARON HARVEY Date: 08/12/93 10:07p
Subj: C.D.Rom Purchase Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Daron!
On 08-09-93 Daron Harvey wrote to All...
DH> I am currently running a 386dx40 with 200mb Hdd.In the near future I
DH> will be purchasing a C.D Rom unit could
DH> somebody tell me the best options to choose when purchasing a C.D.Rom
DH> and what are the pitfalls to look out for
Do you have a sound card?? If so does it have CD-ROM support??
If the answer to either question is NO, then buy one of the Creative Labs
CD 16 multimedia upgrade kits.... Cost is around $1250.00 or so....
300Kbps CD-ROM, 320ms avg access, CD-ROM XA and Multisession Photo CD
compatible...
Hope this helps!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 757
To: DIANA KIRKSEY Date: 08/12/93 10:15p
Subj: RE: Cd-rom Help! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Diana!
On 08-09-93 Diana Kirksey wrote to Mark Womack...
DK> >For the life of me, I can't get the .SYS file to load in high memory.
DK> >I use QEMM but even went as far as to install 386MAX on my system.
DK> >Neither will let me load the file high - both lock up my system when
DK> >they boot. I've rebooted about 500 times over this and just gave up.
DK> >Anyone else not able to load the .SYS file high?
DK>
DK> I've been having problem's trying to use QEMM too.The problems
DK> actually started when I installed my correct Video Card on Windows
DK> (Trident 256c),since then whenever I try to load Qemm,it says that
DK> Windows can't load the video driver in B000.
Did you use the full exclude (ie EXCLUDE=B000-B7FF) or try to add
device=MONOUMB2.386 to SYSTEM.INI??
I'm operating a 486SX/33 here with MSCDEX, SLCD.SYS (SONY CD-ROM driver)
and WfWG net drivers in high memory - 633Kb free with QEMM 7.01!
Windows is running in 1024x768x256colous on a Video 7 HT 216 SVGA....
All this courtesy of EXCLUDE=B000-B7FF on the QEMM install line in
CONFIG.SYS....
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 758
To: ERIC LOTT Date: 08/12/93 10:30p
Subj: Cd-Rom Help Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Eric!
On 08-09-93 Eric Lott wrote to All...
EL> I really need some advice and help concerning CD-ROM. Right
EL> now I have a 386/DX40 with 4 megs RAM, a 330 meg HD, and a
EL> SB Pro. I'm trying to decide if I should upgrade to a 486
EL> (33 or 66), or get into CD-ROM. People (who don't know
EL> alot) have told me that the SB will only work with the
EL> Creative Lab's drive (Panasonic), is this true?
Yep! CR521/CR523 is the single speed drive, CR562B/CR563 is the
double speed drive
EL> Basically, I'd like to know what some of you would do,
EL> upgrade the CPU, or go for the drive, keeping in mind that
EL> I am an avid game player.
Probably add the CD-ROM...
EL> If I decided upon a CD, what is my best course of action.
EL> I have heard that the SB can be used without any problem by using an
EL> adapter, or changing the interface between the card and
EL> drive. I've also heard that a new, faster drive will be
EL> released by Creative Labs (lower than 390 ms). I don;t
EL> want to buy a slow, or below average drive, and so, would
EL> appreciate if anyone could tell me what I should be lokking for
See any of the dealers adds in this echo... The going US price for a
CR562B is about $280.00...
The CR562B will connect directly to the SB Pro (I have a mate with an
original SB Pro and his CR562B works fine off it!)... You'll also
need the CD-ROM drivers... Creative Labs (US) BBS should have these
as they are on the Creative Pacific (Australia) BBS as file CR562.ZIP.
EL> I might be interested in a package deal,
EL> although I am happy with my soundcard, and don't really
EL> want some of the discs that come with them.
EL> Sorry this is all so jumbled together. I'd like to get
EL> into CDs but am really confused as to what to do and how
EL> to do it.
That's all right... If you just buy the CD-ROM, you *MAY* have sufficient
change to upgrade your motherboard to a 486SX/33 or so!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 759
To: ROD IFFINGER Date: 08/12/93 10:33p
Subj: dos 6 & sb-cd's Refer: NONE
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Hi Rod!
On 08-10-93 Rod Iffinger wrote to All...
RI> I have just converted my system from dr-dos 6 to ms-dos 6
RI> and cannot get my soundblaster card and cd to work. By
RI> stepping through the config.sys it seems to load ok but the
RI> autoexec.ba file gives the following errors;
RI> C:\SBPRO\DRV\MSCDEX.EXE /V /D:MSCD001 /M:15
Use the MSCDEX in your MS-DOS 6.0 \DOS directory... It is a later
version than that supplied by Creative Labs.....
The rest of it looked OK to me....
Cheers & Beers!
o
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From: POE LIM Number: 760
To: KIM LEE Date: 08/13/93 12:16a
Subj: SB16 and CD-ROMs Refer: NONE
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Hello Kim,
On Aug 09 23:10 in a msg to Rowan Evans, Kim Lee of 3:711/413 wrote:
> The one that'll come with the CD16 kit. I'll be getting a SCSI-2
> drive, most probably the Panasonic. I'll see what the SCSI-2 comes
If that's the case, keep the AT bus drive first. The SCSI-2 version according
to the Aust distributors will be out around Christmas; would you like to wait?
:) Pricing seems quite good though compared to the NEC, Texel and Toshiba. The
SCSI version also differs in that it has a 256K cache as opposed to 64K cache
in the AT-Bus version, but the AT Bus version is a lot cheaper (from the
pricing i got anyway).
> I think you can daisy chain these IDEs, right?
Can you??
Cheers,
Poe
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From: POE LIM Number: 761
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 08/13/93 12:20a
Subj: Re: New Mpc Specs Refer: NONE
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Hello Leslie,
On Aug 08 15:50 in a msg to Poe Lim, Leslie Rhorer of 1:387/800.4 wrote:
PL>> Are there any others besides the Pioneer 604X?
> I'm sure there must be, but I don't know of any off hand.
> The 604X is a great drive, however.
Hmm... from memory of OS2HW, you run one of these 604Xs; does it support
disconnection while it swaps discs? If it doesn't, it would tie up the SCSI
bus, and all your HD (for HDs attached to the same SCSI bus) transfers may be
shot (unless they do something else while changing discs. That's why I wonder
if it is a good idea to get a 600, as that's SCSI-1, which does not support
disconnection/reconnection (again unless Pioneer implemented something
different).
PL>> Well, I suppose that justifies the upgrade to the SB 16
PL>> ASP, as all other specs are exceeded. :)
> Or one of the other 16 bit boards. I couldn't get the
> Logitech 16 bit sound board to work with OS//2, but the Pro Audio
> Spectrum 16 works just fine.
Only problem with the PAS 16 is that it needs 2 interrupts (if you want to
emulate the SB, and as most software looks for it...); must really look at that
STB 4 COM; do you know anywhere cheap for those (besides Pre-rapture :).
Cheers,
Poe
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From: POE LIM Number: 762
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/13/93 12:29a
Subj: Pas16 Refer: NONE
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Hello Rowan,
On Aug 10 19:15 in a msg to Poe Lim, Rowan Evans of 3:711/413 wrote:
> Yeah, well, I'd like the Wave Blaster add-on for Wave Table
> synthesis....
This is supposedly integrated in the chip itself; was speaking with a dealer
(we exchange info on products) and he mentioned Computamart did mention
something along that line, so......
> at work has said that he's seen ads with it as low as $A80.00 (but
> he couldn't remember where!)... At that price, I'd buy it, even
> though I,m not really an adventure/puzzle freak!
Yeah, there's a mob in Melbourne doing it for $85; was tempted, so ordered it.
only hitch is they insist on courier, at $15! But doesn't look as if they have
constant supply, as it's taking quite some time. Re: looking at 7th Guest at
work; now I know why banks are so inefficient. :)
Cheers,
Poe
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From: POE LIM Number: 763
To: SEAN TUDOR Date: 08/13/93 12:38a
Subj: Panasonic CD-ROM drive. Refer: NONE
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Hello Sean,
On Aug 10 16:30 in a msg to Stephen Harrington, Sean Tudor of 3:711/920 wrote:
> I would certainly be interested as I already have a Sound Blaster 16
> and would like a CD-ROM drive that connects direct throught the
> sound card - especially if it is only $400 new.
I think you'd find it a bit over $400; more like $450. If you want one, I can
probably get one for you. :)
Cheers,
Poe
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From: POE LIM Number: 764
To: DANNY TONG Date: 08/13/93 12:41a
Subj: Pas16 Refer: NONE
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Hello Danny,
On Aug 08 22:05 in a msg to Poe Lim, Danny Tong of 1:125/217 wrote:
> The PAS16 is AdLib and Sound Blaster compatible. So all programs
> will run on it. Some programs are PAS16 specific. If you want
> immediate support, the SBPro is a good choice. If you're looking
> into the future the PAS16 is an excellent choice. Look at all the
> reviews.
I was actually refering to the SB 16, not the PAS 16. Only problem is that it
takes 2 interrupts to be SB compatible, and that's one more than I would like
to use.
> Check any sound card reviews this year. The PAS16 has always been
> #1 or #2 (after the $400+ Turtle Beach). Includes an industry
> standard SCSI port. It really is a very good sound card.
The Trantor 128 isn't the fastest around IMHO; I don't need a SCSI host as I
already use exclusively SCSI. The only thing is the price is pretty good,
compared to the SB 16.
Cheers,
Poe
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From: POE LIM Number: 765
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 08/13/93 12:45a
Subj: Re: Magnto-optical disc Refer: NONE
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Hello Leslie,
On Aug 09 10:28 in a msg to HENRY PAUL, Leslie Rhorer of 1:387/800.4 wrote:
> there is no such thing as a "magnetic beam". In the second, the
> LASER does not heat up the medium at all. The LASER is used to flip
It does, to the point where the magnetic field can affect the polarity of the
media (can't remember what that temp is called now); that's why normally the
media is not affected by magnetic field (which is only used to change polarity
in conjunction with the stronger laser). Normal reading is by a low powered
laser that doesn't generate much heat.
Cheers,
Poe
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From: STEPHEN RETZLAFF Number: 766
To: ROD IFFINGER Date: 08/13/93 8:25a
Subj: Re: dos 6 & sb-cd's Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Rod Iffinger to All on 10 Aug 93 20:45:04 <=-
RI> I have just converted my system from dr-dos 6 to ms-dos 6 and cannot
RI> get my soundblaster card and cd to work. By stepping through the
RI> config.sys it seems to load ok but the autoexec.ba file gives the
RI> following errors
RI> C:\SBPRO\DRV\MSCDEX.EXE /V /D:MSCD001 /M:15
G'day Rod
Change C:\SBPRO\DRV to C:\DOS and you will be right
Regards
Stephen
... Adult GIF files are meant for testing monitors.
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From: SHERRALYNNE DEWHIRST Number: 767
To: ALL Date: 08/09/93 2:04p
Subj: CD-ROM enquiry Refer: NONE
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Does anybody know where I can get the software "Barney Bear Goes To
School" and "Barney Bear Goes To the Moon" from? If so can you tell me
whether it is available in IBM format or Amiga format. I've seen these
two CD's advertised but other Sysops don't know whether it is IBM format
or not. Please leave a message here if you know anything.
Thanks very much.
Sherralynne
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From: DAVID BENFELL Number: 768
To: SHERRALYNNE DEWHIRST Date: 08/10/93 6:29a
Subj: CD-ROM enquiry Refer: NONE
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-> Does anybody know where I can get the software "Barney Bear Goes To
-> School" and "Barney Bear Goes To the Moon" from? If so can you tell
-> me whether it is available in IBM format or Amiga format. I've seen
-> these two CD's advertised but other Sysops don't know whether it is
-> IBM format or not. Please leave a message here if you know anything.
Hi Sherralynne.
I sell both these discs and they're in IBM format. I have a large list
of Macintosh CD's available as well and these 2 aren't on that list so I
doubt there's a MAC version available for them.
Cheers
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From: DANIEL TSUI Number: 769
To: ALL Date: 08/12/93 7:38a
Subj: Forsale echo Refer: NONE
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Can anyone tell me if the CDrom_forsale echo is available in OZ?
daniel
(apologies if offtopic but wasn't sure where to ask)
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From: DAVID CALVIN Number: 770
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 08/12/93 1:39p
Subj: Cd-rom Help! Refer: NONE
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HP>Okay looka t the back of the CD-ROM controller card if you have one.
HP>There should be a pair of RCA jacks on it. All you need is an RCA to
HP>1/8" stereo cable and connect it to the Audio IN port of the sound
HP>card.
HP>Now, if it is connected to the Sound Card, you need to locate a jack
HP>on the CD-ROM unit. Should be a 4 wire connection. The sound card is
HP>either 4 or 5, SB or PAS respectively. For a PAS you need to buy a
HP>cable that will a 4 wire connector at one end and a 5 at the other.
HP>
HP>If you have a SB you need to reverse the wires in the plug at one end,
HP>but only on Mitsumi drive. BTW- What CD-Rom do you have?
Thanks, I got a Mitsumi kit and it all became clear. I have a Stereo
F/X card, which doesn't have audio connections, but I got a CD-ROM kit,
and the controller card had the connecters I needed.
... A)bort, R)etry, U)se a bigger hammer.
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From: DAVID CALVIN Number: 771
To: TOM GUELKER Date: 08/12/93 1:39p
Subj: Cd-rom Help! Refer: NONE
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TG>Why not take a listen to your audio CD's on your computer? Hook it up
TG>to a decent sound card, and use MCS Stereo as the software interface,
TG>and you'll be throwing your audio CD player out the window fast! I'm
TG>hooked!
TG>Tom
I am impressed with the audio quality of the CD-ROM, and if I hadn't had
an audio CD player before I got the CD-ROM drive, I would never have
gotten an audio CD player. But, now I have both, so I can use one for
each. Since you seem pretty into this, what's good software to use, MCS
Stereo? Is that shareware? Right now I'm using CD Audio for Windows
(CDAD125A.ZIP), obviously shareware. It has a nice catalog feature,
random play, fit to tape and everything, but for some reason it has
errors when switching disks, it won't take a new one unless I quit the
program and load it again. Kind of annoying, but good enough for now.
... Picard, you cheated! I'm impressed. - Q
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From: DAVID CALVIN Number: 772
To: ALL Date: 08/12/93 1:39p
Subj: Cd-rom Thanks Refer: NONE
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Just wanted to say thanks to all those in this echo who helped me decide
what kind of CD-ROM to buy. You guys answered all my questions and
helped me understand stuff I had no clue about. I now have a Mitsumi
350ms kit, and Groliers MPC Encyclopedia 1.5 and 7th Guest are on the
way. Thanks again!
... Dinner Not Ready. (A)bort (R)etry (P)izza.
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From: STEVE PESANT Number: 773
To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Date: 08/12/93 10:04p
Subj: So Much Shareware III Refer: NONE
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Hi there Ismail;
How are the new disks coming along that you talked about last week?
Hopefully pretty good...Anyways...Um...You talked about the following:
IA> So Much Shareware III $21
So I was just wondering.. How large is the disk? What types of files are on it?
and is it BBS Ready? Like I said before I'm always looking for something new
and well...I DO Believe this fits that description <grin>
Any hellp would be great...BTW -> If I get a quicj response I can have that
Money Order made out for a different amount instead of $27 maybe $48.)) <grin>
Hope to hear from you soon.
-=Cheers=-
Steve.
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From: STEVE PESANT Number: 774
To: STEWART ROTHMAN Date: 08/12/93 10:09p
Subj: Re: PRO AUDIO OR SOUNDBLAST? Refer: NONE
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<<<SORRY BOB!!! I COULDN'T RESIST TO ASK THIS QUESTION!!!>>>
Hi there Stewart!
You previously wrote:
SR> Sorry Rowan, but you're using a very wrong example......
SR> I live in Fairbanks, Alaska, about 12 miles North of North Pole, Alaska
SR> and in the summer when it's 80 above and warmer, molasses runs very
SR> well and fast. In winter when it's 50 or 60 below, it won't run at all,
SR> so nothing could be slower as it's standing still.... rigidly!!!!
Hmmm. I just love that response...Pretty interesting...However. just a
little (LOT!!) off topic...How can you live North of the North Pole...Wouldn't
that be South of the North Pole... Or isn't the North Pole really the
NORTH??!?!
Just a thought <Silly Grin>
-=Cheers=-
Steve.
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From: STEVE PESANT Number: 775
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/12/93 10:19p
Subj: MORE CD'S ON SALE! Refer: NONE
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MS> STARVECTOR CD-ROM BLOWOUT SPECIALS!
MS> Shareware Overload..$10 Windows 93..........$21
MS> SoundWAV............$24
MS> Deathstar Arcade....$10 Shareware 93........$18
MS> House of Games......$20
MS> Ham Radio 3.0.......$10 Sound Sensations....$10
Hi there Mike you just posted this one:
Anyways. Windows 93 ---Is that pretty much like the CD-WINBOX ROM or not?
Umm Shareware 93 - What disk is this like...Is it a heavily DUPED Disk? How
large? BBS READY? I'm looking for MULTIMEDIA DEmos, Music and DEmos and
Games...Always looking for NEW Stuff ChEaP $$$ <grin>
-=Cheers=-
Steve.
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From: STEVE PESANT Number: 776
To: OLIVER BLADEK Date: 08/12/93 10:30p
Subj: MSCDEX V2.22 Refer: NONE
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OB> Hey People out there in CD-ROM land,
OB> I recently purchased the Creative Labs multimedia upgrade kit and got a
OB> CD-ROM with it.. My installation program is the mscdex ver 2.22 when I
OB> run the program in my autoexec.bat file it is (BTW my CD-ROM name is
OB> 'mscd001 ') When I type the specs for the CD it's
OB> c:\sb16\drv\mscdex.exe /d:mscd001 /m:5 /d:
OB> It replies with incorrect DOS version. I have an ASI 486/33SX and is
OB> using DOS 6.0 and Windoze 3.1 Thanx in advance TTYl
Hmmm, Are you using a packages version of MSCDEX 2.2 that came with the Drives
or the version that came with the DOS 6.0 package...Whatever you are using make
sure you are using the one included with DOS 6.0!! Other than that it might be
an IRQ conflict or DMA Conflict..Check those settings with any other pieces of
hardware you have installed (Ie. Modem....Modems always screw things up if
you're not careful)
Hope this helps
-=Cheers=-
Steve.
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 777
To: ALL Date: 08/12/93 11:26p
Subj: COMPTON'S ON SALE! Refer: NONE
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S COMPTON'S INTERACTIVE ENCYCLOPEDIA
A Retail........................$298
L Typical Store price...........$149
E Starvector's price.............$95!!
Now's your chance! Get the encyclopedia everyone's talking about.
Compton's Interactive MPC encyclopedia has something for everyone!
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: MARK WOMACK Number: 778
To: ALL Date: 08/13/93 3:41p
Subj: Loom for Monkey Island Refer: NONE
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I just finished playing Loom and would like to trade the game for
Monkey Island (even trade) with someone. Once I finish a game, I
don't enjoy playing it a second time but I did enjoy Loom very
much. I have not made any marks in the book and would like to
trade with someone who hasn't marked in their Monkey Island book
either. I can be reached at (Internet) brms51a@prodigy.com
Thanks!
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From: BILL BONDE Number: 779
To: JOSEPH THOMAS Date: 08/12/93 11:58a
Subj: OS/2 Mitsumi Driver Refer: NONE
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-> MW> OS2 2.1.
->
-> MW> Only other thing you can do as far as I know is to call IBM tech
-> MW> and have them FAX or overnight mail a workaround - (need 21 1.4
-> MW> to do it), and dump the OS to these from the cdrom and then do t
-> MW> install that way. You still don't have access to the cdrom thoug
-> MW> as I know.
->
-> One only needs to have 21 FDs in stock and rund LOADDISK.ex
-> from the CD and create these diskettes to install os2/2.1
-> Then install from those disks.
-> I have tried the Florida Driver for Mitsu, NO GO. Tnx.
-> Since Mitsumi people dont care about os/2, we should find a place wh
-> we can dump these and get a read CD for os/2. Tnx.
->
->
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You don't need to install from floppies with a Mitsumi CDROM. Just copy
the files to the harddrive and install from there.
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From: ARTHUR VANZANT Number: 780
To: DAVE SUMMERS Date: 08/11/93 10:05p
Subj: CD ROM on Telegard 2.7 Refer: NONE
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I am running Night Owl 8.0 on a Teleguard BBS here, and am using a door
called CDCOM. It imported the DIR listing into a searchable database.
Have been pleased with it so far.
Later...
... He's dead, Jim. Kick him if you don't believe me.
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 781
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/12/93 8:36p
Subj: Re: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
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BO> *************** C D - R O M D R I V E P R I C E S
> ***************
BO> Pioneer DMR604X Bare -$1199. Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or
> Windows v1. BO> $50. ChestNuts CD's ALL $14.00ec Information on the
> above or 400 + CD BO> titles
>
> Any Mac compatable Encyclopedia ROMs? If so, what's your asking price?
>
BO> Groilers makes a Mac version of thier Encycopedia. As for the price,
BO> it's a little more, why I don't know, but the best we could do would
BO> be $60.
BO>
BO> Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy
BO> to help you further.
BO>
Boris is this Grolier MAC Version their latest and greatest? Ifso I am
interested..m2
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From: PAUL SZUDZIK Number: 782
To: RICHARD MAYCOCK Date: 08/12/93 6:46a
Subj: BEST CDROM LIST Refer: NONE
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RM> Because..... I'm sure that there is a ton of garbage for every
RM> ounce of gold. What I would like to do is assemble a list of
RM> recommended CDs, ones that represent the very best in their class,
I would like to say that this philosphy of only positive reviews would
be steering people the wrong way. 95 people could despise a disk, yet
5 people would write to you with a positive review. We never would
really have a real opinion of any CD.
To be honest, try to come up with a scoring system reply 'card' that
doesn't choke the nets with too much garbage.
i.e.
C D R O M Survey
Title: _____________________________________________
Publisher: _________________________________________
Recommendation: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 ( Higher the better )
Positive Features: ________________________________________
________________________________________
________________________________________
Don't like these: _________________________________________
_________________________________________
Reviewed by: _______________ @ Fido: _____________
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 783
To: MARK THORNTON Date: 08/12/93 12:37a
Subj: Catalog Refer: NONE
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MT>If anyone has any CD catalog's would you please post a message where i can
>pick one up thanks......
You can download our catalog.zip from Computer Works. It has all prices
and descriptions included. If you are looking for shareware discs, we
also have many file lists available for download.
Jim...
Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card & COD Orders
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 784
To: TANYA BROCK Date: 08/12/93 12:53a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 9 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TB>Does anyone have a FreQable files list for night owl 9? Would like
>something I could pick up at 14.4 or higher.
Nowl9.zip can be downloaded from Computer Works at 14.4k on the first
call. There are several other file lists as well if you are interested.
Let me know if you need anything.
Jim...
Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card & COD Orders
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From: DENNIS STERNER Number: 785
To: ALL Date: 08/13/93 2:29p
Subj: SONY CD-ROM PLAYER FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SONY CD-ROM External Player Model 7205 - complete with player, cables,interface
card, setup software, manual, 1 caddy, and SOFTWARE TOOLWORKS WORLD ATLAS
CD-ROM Disc.
Access time for this model is 350 ms.
This model received an Editor's Choice rating from
PC Magazine in 10/29/91 issue.
For sale for $235 delievered.
Call 717-637-2972 if interested.
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From: CHRIS JOHNSON Number: 786
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/12/93 8:00a
Subj: MORE BRAND NEW CD'S!! Refer: NONE
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MS> BRAND NEW CD ARRIVALS AT STARVECTOR!
--------------------------
MS> Soundware Coll'ctn..$27 So Much Shareware 3.$28
------------------------
MS> QRZ Ham Radio.......$19
MS> Hobbes OS/2 1993....$16 Hamware 1993........$28
MS> Game Arena..........$13
MS> Eagle Eye Shareware.$25 Up All Night........$19
MS> Precision Mapping...$88
MS> Fantazia Fonts/Snds.$29 Electronic Cookbook.$33
MS> Learning Adventure..$13
MS> M/M Computer Tutor..$30 Sound F/X Library...$29
MS> Cookbook Heaven.....$27
MS> Int'l Graphics Libr.$33 Musical Instruments.$58
MS> The Holy Bible......$24
MS> STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 *
MS> 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
MS> VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5
MS> pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
MS> ---
MS> * SLMR 2.1a * ... He who hesitates is frost. - Eskimo proverb
Can you give me stats on the Soundware Collection? Size? Formats?
Can I get a files list? FREQ'd? Faxed? Date of files? BBS ready?
Chris Johnson
1:130/801.2
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From: CHRIS JOHNSON Number: 787
To: DARON HARVEY Date: 08/12/93 8:06a
Subj: C.D.Rom Purchase Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DH> I am currently running a 386dx40 with 200mb Hdd.In the near future I
DH> will be purchasing a C.D Rom unit could
DH> somebody tell me the best options to choose when purchasing a C.D.Rom
DH> and what are the pitfalls to look out for
FAST. if your going to run Multi Media I sugest a NEC-CDR-71.
It has a "Double Spin" which spins the disk twice as fast so you
don't get gggiiiittttttteeerrryyyy pictures. I run it and I love it.
the only small drawback is that its a 1000.00 but includes 5 cd's
SB and speakers. I recomend it.
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From: CHRIS JOHNSON Number: 788
To: BLAINE RICHARD Date: 08/12/93 8:12a
Subj: NEW CD-SOUTHERN BEAUTIES Refer: NONE
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BR> ********** Graphical Images of Florida, Inc. **********
BR> Announces The NEW RELEASE of "Southern Beauties"
BR> A FULLY COMMERCIAL - FULLY COPYRIGHTED DISC
BR> 675 Megs-OVER 65 Models-1000 GIFs 1024x768x256 From Original 35mm Slides
BR> 300 Megs of the Best Images in 24 bit True Color. Installs Quickly and
BR> Easily - Menu Driven - User Friendly - Popup Help Menus - Mouse Support
BR> Keyword Search - Sound Blaster Intro - Multiple Directory Slide Show
BR> ********** SOUTHERN BEAUTIES MAY NOT BE USED ON ANY BBS **********
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Why?
BR> To Order Contact: Tradeshows Inc. 317-651-9848 or 317-651-1223
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From: JACK O'NEILL Number: 789
To: JIM HILGEFORD Date: 08/11/93 11:48p
Subj: Re: SBPRO DRIVER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JH> July 12, 93
JH> The newest is a File SBCD2.Add. Also needed is OS2CDR.
JH> This is smoother and when installing read Doc close.
JH> Worked on my system and a friends.
JH> You can remove all other Add files in os/2.
Have you been able to control the volume of audio CD's with this?
I've gone back to SBPCD2.SYS and SBPMixer in order to be able to hear
them.
Thanks.
* KWQ/2 1.2a * I can't decide between EDLIN and Word for Windows.
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From: MICHAEL KONOR Number: 790
To: CARL SLAWINSKI Date: 08/12/93 7:45p
Subj: Re: OLD 600MS CD-ROM DRIVES Refer: NONE
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> MK> 1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height
>Enclosure with
> MK> power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for
>I/O, and 90-
> MK> 240 VAC universal input. $215.00
> MK>
> MK> 2. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal. $190.00
> MK>
> MK> Features: DIP switches for ID, Parity, and Arbitration, 50 pin
> MK> SCSI, 350ms/156k rates, external headphone/volume, Newest
>EPROM, Refurb.,
> MK> 64k buffer. Still have several remaining.
>
>Are these TRUE SCSI drives?? Meaning, can I plug them into any SCSI
>controller and all.
Yes. True SCSI.
>
>Also what is the warranty on these? Where did the come from?
30 days. Intergraph Workstations.
>
>Finally, how many you got left? (approximately)
30 or so
*FSED91j*
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From: CHRIS HARRIS Number: 791
To: JAMES BUTT Date: 08/14/93 8:06a
Subj: Cd'S On Sale! Refer: NONE
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James Cd'S On Sale!
JB>Chris,
JB> I would like to know more about where I cal to
JB>purchas these CD prices are hot!
JB>
JB> James Butt
All the CD's I have purchased have come from StarVector/Mike Shannon.
He runs a company out of Yakima Washington and has real good pricing.
He has a BBS that you can access to download his price list too.
Voice 509-457-2892 BBS 509-457-0206 Filename STARCAT.ZIP
08/14/93 08:06
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From: CHRIS HARRIS Number: 792
To: MARK WOMACK Date: 08/14/93 8:09a
Subj: kodak photo CD Refer: NONE
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Mark kodak photo CD
MW>BC> does anyone know how i can get photo cds made or where i can get
MW>BC> made. also if anyone has the phone # of kodak please post it! tha
MW>BC> for any info!
MW>
MW>Beth, try Wolf Camera if you have one in your area. I went to a phot
I have heard that SAM's Wholesale Club, in some areas is also doing the
Photo CDs. The price, seemed reasonable, I think they said it was $15
for 36 pics.
08/14/93 08:09
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From: CHRIS HARRIS Number: 793
To: BETH CORRIGAN Date: 08/14/93 8:09a
Subj: kodak photo CD Refer: NONE
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Mark kodak photo CD
MW>BC> does anyone know how i can get photo cds made or where i can get
MW>BC> made. also if anyone has the phone # of kodak please post it! tha
MW>BC> for any info!
MW>
MW>Beth, try Wolf Camera if you have one in your area. I went to a phot
I have heard that SAM's Wholesale Club, in some areas is also doing the
Photo CDs. The price, seemed reasonable, I think they said it was $15
for 36 pics.
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From: CHRIS HARRIS Number: 794
To: ED YEE Date: 08/14/93 8:12a
Subj: Mscdex Refer: NONE
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Ed MSCDEX
EY>Which version should I use ? The one that came with the CD-
EY>ROM, the one in DOS, or the one in Windows ?
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EY> * Origin: EXCESS BBS Calgary (403)285-7338 1.8gb (HST-DS 16.8K) (1:1
If using DOS 5.0 and Windows 3.0, use DOS.... If using DOS 5.0 and
windows 3.1 use windows.... If using DOS 6.0 and any windows version use
DOS6.0.
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From: MIKE WARWICK Number: 795
To: JOSEPH THOMAS Date: 08/13/93 4:10a
Subj: OS/2 Mitsumi Driver Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thanks for the info...
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From: MIKE WARWICK Number: 796
To: LAWRENCE MINTZ Date: 08/13/93 4:12a
Subj: OS/2 Mitsumi Driver Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thanks for the reply...looks like its time for a new CD ROM...
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From: JORMA TOLONEN Number: 797
To: ALASTAIR EDGINGTON Date: 08/12/93 7:59p
Subj: WINDOWS NT and Soundblaster Pro CD-ROM drivers Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AE> I'm in desperate need of a WINDOWS NT compatible SoundBlaster Pro
AE> CD-ROM driver.
You will have to find a native Windows NT driver. As of beta-release March
1993 there was no such beast available. Rumour says that Creative Labs are
working on it, but so far no news. I hear the GA version of NT has started
to ship in the US, maybe it is included in that version.
Until then there is no way to access the CD-ROM under NT. Are you by any
chance trying to install NT? If so there is a DOS-based installation that
can be used.
Greetings from a cold Sweden
Jorma
... All I ask is a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
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From: DON KULHA Number: 798
To: ATSON NAKAYAMA Date: 08/11/93 2:08p
Subj: Mac Sevice Info Cd Refer: NONE
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DK> ==== Apple Service Info CD (Service Source CD) Jan 93 edition ====
DK> Price: $18 includes shipping & handling in the U.S. (1st class)
AN> Can you ship to tokyo, japan? If yes, please reply with price including
AN> shipping & handling.
Begging the indulgence of the group here (some of whom might be
interested)....
As far as I can tell from talking to my local post office the cost
difference between shipping to toledo or tokyo is at most a dollar for one CD
with packaging. It takes a bit longer do the international mailing stuff too
but not much. My bank takes 10% for dealing with an international instrument
(check) also. Anyhow, I've been shipping the CD to Oz, Canada and Israel for
$22 in US dollars so that price should work for anyplace. I just got another
batch of the disks in (the last ones available) and my stock is back up to
around 200pcs so we'll have them in stock for a while.....DCK
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From: STEVE PROCTOR Number: 799
To: KEVIN MATTESON Date: 08/12/93 1:49p
Subj: Re: CDROM Drives Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Kevin Matteson to Steve Proctor <=-
KM> Steve,
KM> I have a couple of Toshiba XM3201 CD-ROM drives I would like to
KM> sell. These drives are SCSI 350ms access drives. They come with one
Thanks but no Thanks, I just go rid of tossing 4 of them in the garbage
can. I appreciate the offer anyway.
Steve
... Your Win-OS/2 BBS
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From: GARY HOFFERMAN Number: 800
To: ALL Date: 08/13/93 9:39a
Subj: Dealers wanted Refer: NONE
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Hello to All,
We are looking for resellers and system builders who would be interested in
marketing/bundling CD ROM Software. We can supply all of the most popular
titles at very competitive and flexible pricing.
If you would be intersted, please contact me at CONSOLIDATED CD ROM: 515 67th
Avenue Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 19126 USA +1.215.276.3657 voice or
+1.215.276.3854 fax 24hrs.
Thanks,
Gary
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From: MATTHEW HORBUND Number: 801
To: JAMES HOGUE Date: 08/12/93 11:38p
Subj: CD-ROM SPEED Refer: NONE
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>-> B)Buy a CD-ROM Cache. I've used Norton's SpeedCache Plus and it's
>-> amazing! A
> Matthew, which one of the Norton utility packages contains this
> particular cache?
I didn't own it...I used the program on a friends CD...he had Norton Utils, and
when he called, it was like $19 or something, and they sent it to him! I
haven't used my CD rom for anything other than copying CLIP ART into my
documents, so speed isn't of any essense for me!
Matthew
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From: DEBBIE MARANTZ Number: 802
To: MARIO DI MAMBRO Date: 08/13/93 7:28a
Subj: Chess Meister 5Billion and 1 Refer: NONE
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From: Mario Di Mambro
Chess Meister 5 billion & 1.
I loved Battle chess (in it's time) and I can't wait to get my hands ol
this chess simulator. I was hoping I could get a version on CD ('cause it
take 27 megs on the HD).
Debbie Marantz replies;
I found that the graphics were good but I do wish they had used 640*4?? instead
of 320*200. Their previous chess game used the higher resolution with VESA
support and C5B1 would have really be a feast for the eyes if they had followed
suit. But one can hope, and this is one game that has the potential to show
what a good chess simulation on a CD could do.
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From: BOB SMITH Number: 803
To: DOUG CHARMAN Date: 08/12/93 7:19p
Subj: Re: COREL 3.0 IN MONTREAL Refer: NONE
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(1:134/49)
DC> Just keep looking around. You could always drive up to Ottawa, I'm
DC> sure that stores there are offering it at a good price. Since Corel 4.0
DC> is relatively new, there are still a lot of people willing to sell 3.0
DC> at a good price. Advertise that you are looking for it in this echo.
DC> Maybe mention the fact that you're located in Canada, it's easier to
DC> buy here than across the border with duty, customs, etc. Good luck and
DC> let me know if you're still having problems, I know a few people here
DC> that are soon going to be upgrading. Please Netmail me at 134/49.
Hi Doug, In case my other message didnt reach you, heres another reply since
I just picked up this note from you..Finally bought Corel 3.0 from a Club Biz
store after complaining to the Director of Club Price and calling Corel in
Ottawa...One corel employee went over to Club Price there and checked to see
how many english editions of 3.0 they had and called back but I didnt feel it
was worth it driving two hours to get the extra art book...
Two days ago went into a Club Price store near the Dorval Airport and found
they had abouta dozen english editions with the book!!! Really ^%&*%# me off
I must say...It was ten dollars cheaper than I paid and included the art book;;
Oh well now have 3.0 and when I have the time will try to learn about it...
Do you work with it? If so tell me... How would I make some business cards?
A friend has Microsoft Publisher and says he does cards with it.. Which one
would be better? Talk to you later...
Bob Smith in Montreal If it's faster reply on Internet E-mail to:
bob.smith@xonxoff.com
DC> -!- Maximus 2.01wb
DC> ! Origin: Student Exchange, Calgary, CANADA 403-283-5261 HST-DS
DC> (1:134/49)
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From: SHAUN RADER Number: 804
To: ED YEE Date: 08/13/93 11:40a
Subj: Mscdex Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
<<***** ED YEE wrote this on 08-11─93 {May be edited} *****>>
->Which version should I use ? The one that came with the CD-ROM, the on
->in DOS, or the one in Windows ?
Hmmm, if you have DOS 6, I'd use that one. Basically, just look at the
date and version number and choose the newest. But I think DOS 6's
MSCDEX is the newest.
-Shaun Rader-
-Madman@Liberty.Com-
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From: JAMES FRAZEE Number: 805
To: CORRY MACFARLANE Date: 08/13/93 8:22a
Subj: BBS Door for CD-ROM Refer: NONE
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CM> If you two are interested, I've been writing a CD-ROM door
CM> for a while now. Here's a little blurb on it. If any wants
CM> to give it a try, give me your BBS
CM> number and I'll call and UL it to you!! What a deal,
CM> huh.....
The Northwest Connection (206) 691-5042 [300 - 14,400]
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From: MIKE AVILA Number: 806
To: ALAN MCCREADY Date: 08/11/93 5:23p
Subj: PAS16/TEXEL 3024 Refer: NONE
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*** Quoting Alan Mccready to Boris Osadciw dated 08-08-93 ***
> Boris, What is the upgrade kit? I bought a SCSI cable and the drivers
> Trantor and MSCDEX are included with the PAS16 board. Do I still need
> something else? If I need this upgrade kit how much is it?
> thanks Alan
>
You MUST use the drivers that came with the board. I got a "kit" with a
bracket for the back of the PC, a cable, and drivers. When you install the
drivers that came with the CD-ROM it will update your config.sys and
autoexec.bat to point to the Trantor drivers. Just change the path to the
PAS16 drivers. Same basic drivers BUT programmed for the PAS16. Sound boards
use various SCSI chips. I have the PAStudio16 and it uses the Transtor chips.
But the Tantor drivers are "generic". The PAS16 drivers are specific to the
PAS16 board design. I have the PAStudio16 with the external Texel drive
(5024). Works beautiful!
Mike
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 807
To: DON KULHA Date: 08/10/93 8:41p
Subj: CADDY-O-RAMA Refer: NONE
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> Note. All of the high end high-performance drives intended for commercial
>or heavy-duty service use caddys.
Not any more - Panasonic's recent offerings include double-speed drives that
are caddyless.
>I wouldn't consider using a caddyless for my BBS
I refuse to put up with those caddy-type single-disc monstrosities. I can
BARELY tolerate caddies on multi-disc changers, as there IS no other viable
choice yet (though something similar to Denon's 100-disc audio player would be
nice!)....
* SLMR 2.1a * He who is hen pecked may lend an ear to other chicks.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 808
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/11/93 11:10a
Subj: MITSUMI DRIVES?? Refer: NONE
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>It makes me continually wonder why so many of these drives are being sold,
when
>they have this apparent design flaw???
Oddly enough, most of us Mitsumi owners NEVER experiance this alleged design
flaw - and I have had discs that others could not read in their drives on
occasion be readable in my Mitsumi drive.
The Mitsumi IS the low-cost new drive on the market - a slightly higher rate of
problems with it should be EXPECTED, though in MY experiance it's not a
"problem" drive....
* SLMR 2.1a * She doesn't sail a dinghy - she IS dingy!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 809
To: GARY SHADE Date: 08/11/93 4:00p
Subj: * X-RATED CD-ROM * Refer: NONE
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>JR> Is there any X-Rated CD-ROM with animals ?
>Why would anyone want to see animals going at it???
I think that "JR" was asking for a CD-ROM with pictures of a human and an
animal performing sexual acts, aka "beastiality"....
* SLMR 2.1a * I can't keep pretending, it's my soul that you own....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 810
To: GARY SHADE Date: 08/11/93 4:02p
Subj: INTERNAL HOOKED EXTER Refer: NONE
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>RS>G> the drive only seems to work sometimes, when I turn it on it
>RS>G> starts fine sometime and other times it won't.
>If the problem is an inadequate power supply - you purchase a bigger supply
not
>a smaller supply. If you are discussing a switching power supply (as in an
>external standalone case), the Mitsumi should still put enough of a load on it
>for it to go into regulation. Unless of course it is a total mismatch.
A single Mitsumi will NOT load a typical PC 200 watt power supply down enough
for it to work properly.
This pair DOES classify as a "total mismatch"....
* SLMR 2.1a * You live and learn. Or you don't live long.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 811
To: JAMES D. MITCHELL Date: 08/11/93 4:05p
Subj: TANDY CDR-1000 Refer: NONE
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>Looking for an upgrade kit which will make this 9-month obsolete wonder
>compatible for Kodak photo.
Mitsumi manufactured those drives, and has indicated that they are NOT
upgradeable to support Photo CD.
They DO make a newer drive (LU005) that does Photo CD, but it is normally
available with the needed interface card NOT as a stand-alone drive (though the
existance of the ATI and Gravis cards with the Mitsumi CD-ROM interface built-
in might change this eventually)....
>Anything else might work? Please no suggestions on a new drive
Only choice....
* SLMR 2.1a * I have a really bad feeling about this....
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From: SAM VANDYKE Number: 812
To: ALL Date: 08/11/93 8:36p
Subj: fda Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
gsfgfg
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From: STEVE GERWECK Number: 813
To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 08/13/93 5:24p
Subj: BEST CDROM PRICES!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Doug Carpenter to All <=-
DC> * Busty Babes......29.95
Can you match Mike Shannon's offer of $29 PPD??
Steve
... Clinton Cruise Lines: Taking America for a Ride!
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From: TOM GUELKER Number: 814
To: PAUL SWIDER Date: 08/11/93 9:12p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM QUESTION Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PS> On 07-13-93 Ken Cole wrote to All...
PS> KC> I was wondering if anyone out there knew if it hurts anything to leave
PS> KC> a CD-ROM Disk in the drive after I'm finished using it? Does it continu
PS> KC> to spin all the time? I haven't read anywhere what the correct
PS> KC> procedure is.
PS> Ken as far as I can tell it doesn't hurt to leave the discs in for long
PS> periods, but then maybe I've been lucky <g>. I've had 2 different NEC
PS> models, one external and one internal and both stopped spinning after a
PS> period of non access and/or use. I'm like you and haven't read the
PS> "correct" proceedure. I do try to remove the discs after I'm through and
PS> especially before I shut down.
I run two Mitsumi readers here and they are full all the time. I switch
discs about once a month, but they do stay in the reader for about 30
days with no ill effects. The only time the discs spin are when they are
being accessed, and afterward for a short time. Leave 'em in if you
want. Less wear and tear on the mechanism I say!
Tom
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From: ERIK S. Number: 815
To: ALL Date: 08/13/93 12:20p
Subj: Medley CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone have a Medley CD-ROM drive or even heard of one before?
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From: PETER DETTELIS Number: 816
To: JACKSON CHAU Date: 08/12/93 12:23a
Subj: CD'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have the following discs for sale with full documentation and any
registrations that came with them:
NASA SIGCAT GRIP '89 - $30
ROMWARE Mag Vol 1 #4 - $10
Multimedia Birds of America by CMC - $30
Groliers Encyclopedia, text only - $negotiable
Leave me a message here or call me direct at 719-495-0495 in the evening or
weekends, Rocky Mountain time.
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From: AGUINALDO CRUZ Number: 817
To: CHRIS CONKLIN Date: 08/11/93 9:08p
Subj: Re: Free Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CC> C-3 Production Systems is now online. If you would like to receive
CC> catalog of CD-ROM disks at discount prices, leave message here, give
CC> me a call or write to the address below.
Please send a catalog to
Aguinaldo Cruz
R. DomLino D.R.Carvalho,1170 Ap31
Cep 13.096-060
Campinas - SP BRAZIL
Thanks...
... Two most common elements in the universe: Hydrogen & Stupidity.
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From: AGUINALDO CRUZ Number: 818
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/11/93 9:11p
Subj: Re: RED HOT SUMMER Refer: NONE
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BO> >> You can send it for Brazil ???
BO> Yes, we can send packages all over the world.
GM> Do you have a complete catalog to send me by Mail ??
GM> If you have it, My Mail Adress is:
Send one to me too, My address:
Aguinaldo Cruz
R. DomLino D.R.Carvalho,1170 Ap31
CEP 13.096-060
Campinas - SP BRAZIL
Thanks...
... Sogro rico e porco gordo só däo lucro depois de mortos
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From: JOHN HART Number: 819
To: DAVID HARRISON Date: 08/13/93 12:15p
Subj: mitsumi Refer: NONE
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-> I run WanderLand BBS, and I am looking to add a CD-ROM to my file sec
-> my bbs... One of my users offered to sell me a MITSUMI (350ms) CD-RO
-> drive... Does anybody know if these things are worth having?
->
Sure. You can get new one's from Storage USA 1-800-538-disk in the
September Computer Shopper for $175. If he's got a good price you can
add over 600 megs of good shareware to your BBS for under $200. I'm
also amazed at how inexpensive Pier2 and Night Owls 9 are selling for.
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From: ROBERT STEED Number: 820
To: BLAINE RICHARD Date: 08/14/93 9:17a
Subj: NEW CD-SOUTHERN BEAUTIES Refer: NONE
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In a message originally to All, Blaine Richard said:
BR> ********** Graphical Images of Florida, Inc.
BR> **********
BR> Announces The NEW RELEASE of "Southern
BR> Beauties"
BR> A FULLY COMMERCIAL - FULLY COPYRIGHTED DISC
BR> 675 Megs-OVER 65 Models-1000 GIFs 1024x768x256 From Original
BR> 35mm Slides
BR> 300 Megs of the Best Images in 24 bit True Color. Installs
BR> Quickly and
BR> Easily - Menu Driven - User Friendly - Popup Help Menus -
BR> Mouse Support
BR> Keyword Search - Sound Blaster Intro - Multiple Directory
BR> Slide Show
BR> ********** SOUTHERN BEAUTIES MAY NOT BE USED ON ANY BBS
BR> **********
BR> To Order Contact: Tradeshows Inc. 317-651-9848 or
BR> 317-651-1223
BR> --- WM v3.00/93-0202
BR> * Origin: Challenger BBS - (407)292-0485 TWFile NetWork D-2
BR> (1:363/175.0)
BR> 116/2000 123/19
BR> 203/23 209/209
BR> 375/14 378/11
BR> 3605/1000 3608/5
BR> 3625/454 3634/12
How much does this product sell for??
Rob
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From: RACHEL REPSTAD Number: 821
To: DON REIB Date: 08/13/93 11:33a
Subj: catalog Refer: NONE
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Don, I'd like one of your catalogs, here is my address
Rachel Repstad
RFD#1 Box 3720
Sheldon, VT 05483
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From: RACHEL REPSTAD Number: 822
To: TRAVIS CAMPBELL Date: 08/13/93 11:44a
Subj: Police Quest 4 (CD-ROM) Refer: NONE
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Darly F. Gates is designing PQ4. I asume the games would be about the L.A.
riots or maybe not. Hard to tell. I also have the first three police quest
games and I loved PQ1! I also have the old version. I like the typing
interface. The graphics aren't as gd but it is a great game. I've played it so
much I can beat it in less than a day! WOWZERS!
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From: RACHEL REPSTAD Number: 823
To: STEVE PROCTOR Date: 08/13/93 4:05p
Subj: *wanted! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SP>Hello Sean!
SP>I have 4 of the Toshibx XM-3201B CDROM Drives. Give me a address
SP>on where to send them and make me a offer and they are yours. I
SP>believe 2 of the four work part-time. Let me know or netmail me
SP>at the address below.
SP>Steve
Tell me the lowest price you would be willing to sell those for. How would it
work with a Sound Blaster Pro?
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From: RACHEL REPSTAD Number: 824
To: ALL Date: 08/13/93 4:18p
Subj: CD-ROM drives Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I would very much like any information on new or used CD-ROM drives for sale.
350ms or less please and SBPro compatable! Thanx
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From: DON ROBINSON Number: 825
To: ALL Date: 08/12/93 11:22p
Subj: Space quest help... Refer: NONE
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I just bought Space Quest IV for CD-ROM, and have had quite a few
problems..
* First, when I'm playing, it says Space Quest XI.. ????
* When I try to install it, it INSISTS that I pick a voice digitizing
card.. I have no voice or sound card.. Does it require one? When I
try to run it, it says it can't find one, and plays music through the
speaker, but when I walk up to a guy to talk to him, it just stops
there.. His face moves around, and I can exit the program, but that's
it.
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From: BILLY BATTON Number: 826
To: ALL Date: 08/13/93 8:37p
Subj: price Refer: NONE
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Does any one Have prices on Adult Cd-rom Disk?
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From: MIKE GERARDI Number: 827
To: OLIVER BLADEK Date: 08/13/93 8:30p
Subj: Mscdex v2.22 Refer: NONE
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> My installation program is the mscdex ver 2.22
> c:\sb16\drv\mscdex.exe /d:mscd001 /m:5 /d:
> It replies with incorrect DOS version.
Using DOS 6.0 and Windows 3.1
The solution is simple... Just use the mscdex.exe that shipped
with DOS 6.0 and resides in your DOS directory. It does NOT require the
SETVER line loaded in your config.sys file and is also the the same
version (2.22)
I use it the my external SONY CD and have NO problems.
Mike G
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From: PAUL WHITE Number: 828
To: ED YEE Date: 08/13/93 7:21a
Subj: RE: Mammals CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message to everyone written on Wednesday, August 11, 1993 at 9:40:06
PM, Ed Yee writes:
EY> I've got the Mammals CD-ROM and it doesn't quite work. The requirements
EY> states that I must have everything IBM PS/2. All the other
EY> requirements, I've exceeded. It works fine until the title screen. My
EY> computer doesn't hang and my keyboard still works. There is a little
EY> button that says begin, but my mouse can't seem to activate the button
EY> (Begin buttong on screen). When I push f1, I get "reference file not
EY> available" or something like that. All I can do is push Alt-Q to exit.
EY> What is wrong and how can I fix this. The
Here are a couple of ideas:
1. Does your CD-ROM device driver support CD-AUDIO? After you click the
"begin" button, a menu screen should come up and an audio track should start
playing. Maybe if your drive doesn't handle audio correctly, it hangs up at
this point?
2. Is your mouse "Microsoft compatible"?
3. Does the title screen appear distorted in any way? You need VGA graphics
capability, I believe, and it could be that if you don't have the right video
mode, the visual position of the "start" button and the mouse coordinates
don't match up.
I have used the Mammals disk on several different computers with Mouse
Systems, and Microsoft mice, color and monochrome VGA graphics, all without
problems. I hope these wild guesses help some...
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From: DONALD WEN Number: 829
To: DAVID EAGEN Date: 08/13/93 10:35p
Subj: Re: 7th guest Refer: NONE
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David Eagen (8-6-93) wrote,
DE> Is there a fix out for T7G that supports S3 video boards
DE> yet? Where can I get it? Dave
Yes. It's T7G_124.EXE, and Virgin BBS has it, (714) 833-3305. Local BBSs
may already have such a file, although in zipped form and may have different
names like T7G-FIX.ZIP.
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From: DONALD WEN Number: 830
To: SHAUN RADER Date: 08/13/93 10:35p
Subj: Re: 7th guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SR> <<***** On 08-06-93, DAVID EAGEN wrote to ALL: *****>>
DE>> Is there a fix out for T7G that supports S3 video boards yet? Where
DE>>can I get it? Dave
Shaun Rader (8-9-93) replied,
SR> I don't think Virgin Games is planning on supporting the S3
SR> video boards. I read that they said the S3 boards are just too
SR> slow. That's too bad because I have an S3 video board... and
SR> it seems to work fine in Windows. I got a 2% on the video test
SR> for The 7th Guest! Pretty sad huh? I used to get 1% with my
SR> old Trident.
Hmm. Doesn't the patch fix T7G_124.EXE (or T7G-FIX.ZIP zipped) adds S3
compatibility? Second, I have a Compaq Deskpro 4/33i with QVision video
controller and 512K VRAM (upgradeable to I meg) built onto the motherboard,
and got 100% video test. BTW, QVision is fast under DOS and Windows. Adds
VESA driver and the game runs fine.
DONALD WEN
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From: KIM LEE Number: 831
To: STEPHEN RANSON Date: 08/10/93 1:10a
Subj: Cd-rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message dated 08-08-93 00:22, Stephen Ranson mumbled to Victor
Zdanowicz
SR> Victor - Price change from my last message!!,
SR>
SR> A second option is the CD16A Creative Labs Edu-tainment upgrade kit
SR> which includes the SD-16ASP and a CR563 drive which is double spin,
Are you 100% sure it contains the ASP chip? Is this a new kit?
SR> multi session photo CD compatible, and 8 CD titles for $1165.
SR> As yet I don't have actual specs on this drive, supposed to
SR> be 320msec and 300 Kb/sec.
I think that's right.
*kIM_/2 aMFU
NyteOwl@lsupoz.apana.org.au (Linux Support Oz)
... To a dog his owner is Napoleon; hence their popularity.
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 832
To: DAVE REDOUX Date: 08/13/93 7:28p
Subj: New Purchase Suggestions Refer: NONE
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Hi Dave!
On 08-08-93 Dave Redoux wrote to All...
DR>
DR> I have a 386SX-16 and I am hoping to add a CD-ROM drive to my system.
DR> I don't have a Sound Blaster Card. Will I be able to add a CD-ROM to
DR> this setup as it is right now or is a 386SX-16 not a good enough
DR> system?
386SX/16 will be fine.... This is the minimum PC required for MPC Level 1.
DR> Also, will I need a SB Card? It would probably be a SB 16 ASP since
DR> it seems, based on many other msg's, that this is the best one on the
DR> market.
Maybe not the absolute best, but good value for money.... Others will try
to get you onto a Pro Audio Spectrum 16, which has a slow (680Kbps) SCSI
host adapter.... That's also a nice card...
DR> It seems under 300ms access and at least 300kb/sec transfer is about
DR> a middle of the road CD-ROM player. Any ballpark $$'s for an
DR> external?
Well, you see a lot pf people here with the Pioneer 6 disk changer, that's
spec'ed at 600Kbps... But 300Kbps is the norm....
As a suggestion, look for a Creative Labs Multimedia kit... gets you both
CD-ROM drive and sound card (and some bundled CD-ROMS!) for a reasonable
price.....
Hope this helps!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 833
To: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Date: 08/13/93 7:36p
Subj: Re: New Mpc Specs Refer: NONE
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Hi Giuliano!
On 08-08-93 Giuliano Maciocci Jr. wrote to Leslie Rhorer...
GM> RE>> Processor :- 25Mhz 80486
GM> RE>> RAM :- 4Mb minimum
GM> RE>> Video :- 640 x 480 x 65,535 colours
GM> SL>> (1Mb SVGA card!)
GM> RE>> CD-ROM :- 300Kbps (I forget the avg access time!)
GM> RE>> Hard Drive :- 170Mb minimum Sound Card :-
GM> RE>> MUST have 16 bit DAC and 16 bit ADC - I
GM> RE>> disremember the record/playback
GM>
GM> SL>> It would be a rare person to have a computer with these specs!
GM> SL>> Especially the CD-ROM/Sound Card combo.
GM>
GM> LR> Not at all. All the new CD-ROM drives are "double speed", and
GM> LR> some are quad speed (600Kbps), and the new sound cards are all 16
GM> LR> bit.
GM>
GM> Yes, well. They are availiable if that's what you mean, but
GM> they sure aren't that AFFORDABLE, are they?
I don't know, I'd say that they are as in March this year, I bought a
Media Vision Fusion CD 16, with Pro Audio Spectrum and SONY CDU-31A
(a 150Kbps drive) plus bundled software for $A1050.00.....
I'm now looking at upgrading to a Creative Labs CD 16 MM kit (Edutainment)
with more than twice the number of bundled CD-ROMS as well as a 300Kbs
CD-ROM drive (Panasonic CR563)... for $A1190.00....
GM> By the way,what's that about 640*480*65,535 cols? A SVGA card is
GM> still 256 or am I confused here?
You're confused.... An SVGA card with 1Mb on it is capable of displaying
65,536 colours in 640x480 resolution in Windows.... SVGA is basically
anything over a 64Kb VGA card (640x480x16).... and that includes the
additional colour depth.....
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 834
To: CHRIS ROBINSON Date: 08/13/93 7:42p
Subj: 16 bit cards Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Chris!
On 08-10-93 Chris Robinson wrote to All...
CR> I am preparing to buy a 16 bit sound card soon. What do all you users
CR> recommend ??? I am cuurently trying to decide what the good and bad
CR> points are for the PAS16 and the SB16 ASP. Any suggestions?? I plan
CR> on adding a double speed drive in the near future. How do these sound
CR> cards hook up to the cd-rom drive and does one card have better features
to
CR> accomodate the cd-rom drive over the other? Please help if you can.
Both cards will connect to double speed CD-ROM drives... The SB 16 ASP is
Panasonic AT bus only, so you *HAVE* to buy a Panasonic to run off it...
The PAS 16 is SCSI and can run almost any SCSI CD-ROM drive....
So if you want a big selection of drives, grab the PAS 16...
Personally, I prefer the AT bus CD-ROMs and have benchmarked them as
being faster than SCSI, so I'd recommend the Creative Labs MM kit, but
wouldn't throw out a Media Vision kit if it came my way!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 835
To: RICHARD NIXON Date: 08/13/93 7:53p
Subj: Re: PRO AUDIO OR SOUNDBL Refer: NONE
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Hi Richard!
On 08-15-93 Richard Nixon wrote to Rowan Evans...
RN> RE> BF> The PAS16 uses a STANDARD SCSI PORT to run CD-ROMs with, the
RN> RE> BF> SB Pro uses a PROPRIATARY thing that has all of 3 OR FEWER
RN> RE> BF> choices on which ROM drive(s) you can run off of it.
RN> RE> BF> The PAS16 SCSI port is Trantor-designed, and standard Trantor
RN> RE> BF> drives work with it....
RN>
RN> RE> You forgot to add that the PAS 16 SCSI port is slower than a
RN> RE> molasses drip at the North Pole!
RN>
RN> Actually, it is not that slow and it works for even the fastest
RN> CD-ROM. I have a UltraStor 34F SCSI controller (local bus) and a
RN> Toshiba 3401 200ms cd-rom. As far as I can tell, there is NO
RN> DIFFERENCE between the PAS-16's SCSI and the 34F SCSI when used
RN> with the CD-ROM.
RN>
RN> This is true with a 486DX-33, 486DX-50, and a 486DX2-66.
Yep, that's what I've been finding out in benchmarking various SCSI
CD-ROMs.... to the extent that unless someone has a pressing need for
a SCSI attached CD-ROM (like a mate who wants to run WIN-NT only using
MicroSoft supplied drivers) I recommend purchase of an AT bus CD-ROM
drive!
T7G install, which a few people are using as a measure of "how fast their
CD-ROM drive is" reports on three installs I have seen :-
PAS 16/NEC CDR-55 - 300Kbps
SB16 ASP/Panasonic CR563 - 584Kbps
SB16 ASP/Panasonic CR563 - 612Kbps! (Different machine!)
While this may not be an absolutely ideal benchmark, it gives you food
for thought!
RN> If you are going to use the PAS-16 as a HA, then you might have
RN> problems.
Yep, if you go back to my original response, that's what the guy was trying
to do.... connect SCSI HDDs to a PAS 16... Compared to an Adaptec 1540B's
spec for transfer rate, the PAS 16 HA is a slug!
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ANTONY WUTH Number: 836
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/11/93 8:49a
Subj: Wanted: Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Rowan,
09 Aug 93 18:28, Rowan Evans wrote to Antony Wuth:
AW>> No Good. How does windoze know where the drivers are.
Well I fixed it. I deleted Windoze in a rage of fury ( sort of ) and when I
reinstalled it worked fine??
I don'd know why it was doing it but is was stuffed.
Seya
Antony
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From: PHIL BURTON Number: 837
To: JOHN BRANCIFORTE Date: 08/10/93 1:23p
Subj: Re: Cd-roms for sale! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
===> Overheard John Branciforte say something to "All"
===> about Cd-roms for sale!.
JB> "Attention!", I have the following items FOR SALE: (1) "NEW Groliers
JB> MM Encyc." (Dos) ver. 5.01 - This Is It,"The Latest" with Motion Video
JB> Clips, Photos, Maps, Sounds etc.. Asking = $40.00 + $3.00 Shp. Chgs..
JB> Prepaid orders only! (1) "The Family Doctor" 1992 - Asking = $15.00 +
JB> $3.00 Shp. chgs.. If interested call me anyday bet 10 am & 6pm
JB> Mon.-Sun. at (813) 848-2698. Thanks, John B.
Hi John,
Would you send one to Australia? and how much approx for the Shp if so.
Cheers,
... We are the people our parents warned us about!
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From: LAURIE BATT Number: 838
To: OZZIE USERS Date: 08/12/93 3:20p
Subj: Night Owls V9 Refer: NONE
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I have Night Owls 9 available for $A60 or $A70 with caddy
Can be sent +COD anywhere in Aust.
reply Netmail to 3:640/531.2
Laurie
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From: TARQUINN WATSON Number: 839
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/13/93 4:14p
Subj: re: Cd Changers. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have all the details of the German NSM 100 cd-rom changer. What price do you
sell them at?
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From: NICK HONDA Number: 840
To: TIM WENAS Date: 08/13/93 10:06p
Subj: Multimedia Packs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Tim,
Your question on Multimedia Paks is a very tough one to answer! But
anyway I'll give my best answer. Right now I'm using MediaVision's Fusion CD
pack. (8 Bit Sound Board:"PAS+") I had absolutely no trouble installing it or
configuring it. The setup program came on a floppy- all you had to do was type
SETUP.exe and the drivers installed themselves. If you have DOS 6.0, MEMMAKER
will load them high to save you some memory. Once the drivers were installed
I rebooted and I was off and running!
I would "ASSUME" that MediaVision has kept up it's good tradition with
the Fusion 16. All the reviews I've read say that it still is the easiest to
setup, and most people say that MediaVision has good Tech. Support. (Lucky for
me, the product is so good I never had to call Tech Support!) There are a few
models for the Fusion 16. I think there is a 16E for "External" Cd-Rom drive,
and then there's one that mounts internally inside the computer. Both offer
the Pro Audio Spectrum 16 Cards with Labtec Stereo Speakers and probably an
NEC or Sony or another reputable CD-ROM drive.
But then again I've heard great stories with Creative Labs and its
Discovery and Edutainment CD-ROM packages as well! These also offer Sound
Blaster 16's with a great CD-ROM Drive &
Labtec Speakers (I think). I guess the ballpark figures for price
is between 400-600, depending on the model and brand you select.DD
I saw the FUSION 16E for 398.00 one day, and I'm sure that the
prices are still falling. Plan on getting good, quality equipment with
either the MediaVision or C. Labs. I guess you'll have to specifically
look into what each pak contains. Some may have a faster CD-ROM drive, but the
other may sacrifice speed for numerous CD-Titles. If you want speed or CD's
will probably make your decision- the sound boards are both great.
Also, you should check your library or book store for some computer magazines.
They frequently review sound cards, cd roms, and multimedia packages and give
their technical opinions as well.
LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU DECIDE. I plan on possibly upgrading to a 16-bit sound
card so i'd like to know which card you get so you can give me your opinion as
well. Good Luck!
Nick Honda
PC-KEY'S BBS
Girard/Youngstown, OH
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From: DIANE PENCIL Number: 841
To: TOM TECH Date: 08/14/93 5:03a
Subj: Nightowl 8 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi there!
I bought a noght owl 8 software disk from you folks back in April which seem to
have major problems. I called your Ashtabula phone number only to be told that
you don't have any more disks on the night owl 8 variety. Your staff also told
me that you would replace it with something else which (and I quote) "was
exactly the same thing". Really, I just want night owl 8 to work and frankly if
a disk is not night owl then it is not "exactly the same thing". I called
software creation who willingly said they would replace it but I had to pay
triple shipping. They said you folks should be taking care of this and next
time to buy from them direct (which I wil do now). They didn't have to make
your defective software good but they will. Unfortunately I get to pay an
additional 15.00 on a 29.00 disk. Make me feel warm inside ya know? As a
reseller who bought several hundered dollars worth of CD's from you folks I
would have hoped for a small amount of cooperation.
The moreal of the story?
If you want someone to stand behind a product they sell... you know who not to
deal with!.
Diane Pencil
The Computer Recyclery
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From: DIANE PENCIL Number: 842
To: DAVID EAGEN Date: 08/14/93 5:09a
Subj: 7th Guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Is there a fix out for T7G that supports S3 video boards yet? Where
> can I get it? Dave
Gee, I'm running it on S3 video with no problem at all. Orchid Farenheit 1280.
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From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 843
To: BILL GEE Date: 08/09/93 11:10p
Subj: KINGS QUEST 6 ON CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Yesterday I picked up KQ6 on CD at CompUsa. Price was US$48. The
-> disk has 500+ megs of data on it plus an audio track about 4 minutes
-> long. Included are versions of the program for both DOS and Windows.
-> The Windows version installs Video for Windows, which it requires to
-> run. According to the docs, the Windows version will only use a
-> 640x480 window no matter what the resolution of your display is.
-> That means that those of us with 1024x768 displays will get a really
-> tiny display. It does require a 256 color video driver.
That is no big deal you can always exit out of windows run the setup
program and change it back to 640x400 or little higher say 800x400.
Louis
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From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 844
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 08/09/93 11:20p
Subj: CONECTAR CR-ROM MITSUMI A Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Que tal Zorro, como te va?
->
-> Conectastes el Sound Blaster al CD-ROM? Te conteste tu nota, pero ya
-> no recibi palabra de ti.
->
-> Hasta lluego y que la pases bien!
No sound blaser el CD-ROM al mitsumi. Si sound blaster 16 el cd-rom al
mitsumi. no much comprendez spanish. No problemo sound blaster 16 ASP,
mucho problemo sound blaster. Mitsumi+sound blaster 16ASP = no problemo
comprendez amigo?
Louis
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From: ROB MCINTYRE Number: 845
To: PAUL SWIDER Date: 08/13/93 9:35a
Subj: VGA SPECTRUM INFO PLEASE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thanks for the info but I'll like to have the mods arched.
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From: PIERRE VANDEVENNE Number: 846
To: ALL Date: 08/09/93 2:33p
Subj: MITSUMI AND OS/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi there !
I managed to get my Mitsumi LU005S to work perfectly in a VMD in OS2
2.1. Not very hard but someone may be interested. I used DOS 6.0 to make
the boot disk. My PC is a standard 486DX266-Clone with an AMI BIOS and
and OPTI Chipset.
My config
DEVICE=\FSFILTER.SYS ; mandatory
BUFFERS=10,0 ; whatever you want
SWITCHES=/F ; whatever you want
STACKS=0,0 ; whatever you want
LASTDRIVE=G ; whatever you want
FILES=30 ; whatever you want
FCBS=4,0 ; whatever you want
DEVICE=\SETVER.EXE ; whatever you want
DEVICE=MTMCDE.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:300 /A:0 /M:20 /T:5 /I:10
; This is the DMA interrupt driven driver, do not use the polling driver
; as performance is likely to suffer
My autoexec
\KEYB BE, 850, \KEYBOARD.SYS ; Belgian keyboard driver
\mouse.COM ; from \OS2\MSDOS
\DOSKEY.COM ; from \OS2\MSDOS
PROMPT $P$G ; whatever you want
PATH=C:\UTIL;C:\DOS;C:\EDIT; ; whatever you want
SET TEMP=C:\TEMP ; whatever you want
MSCDEX.EXE /D:MSCD001 /M:10 /S ; MSCDEX 2.22 comes with DOS 6.0
^^^^
Use the command VMDISK in an OS/2 windows to copy your boot disk to a file.
I have no problems whatsoever, even with big disks. (630Mb is the
biggest I have)
Hope this helps
Regards - Pierre
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From: STEVEN VANDEWIELE Number: 847
To: ALL Date: 08/11/93 9:54p
Subj: mitsumi Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 08-07-93 ALL wrote to ALL...
SV> Hello all,
SV>
SV>
SV> Could someone let me know the complete adress and/or
SV> fax number of MITSUMI.
SV>
SV> Thanx
SV>
SV> Steven
SV>
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From: KURT HAUPT Number: 848
To: TOMCAT Date: 08/10/93 7:15p
Subj: ADD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TOMCAT control message = ADD
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From: RENE HAEBERLI Number: 849
To: DENIS COLEMAN Date: 08/10/93 12:00a
Subj: Dealers Wanted !! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Denis
Send your prices about your CD and info to:
CSI Staub Haeberli + Co
Stationsstrasse 26
CH-8606 Greifensee
Switzerland
Tnx, greetings, Rene
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From: PHIL HORNBY Number: 850
To: DAVID SALTRICK Date: 08/11/93 9:24p
Subj: MITSUMI DRIVE AND SB16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi David,
On Tuesday July 27 1993, David Saltrick wrote to All:
DS> It contains the Mitusmi CD Drive and a SB16 bit card.. The problem i am
DS> having is after I play a music CD with the CDplayer program that comes
DS> with the card, and then remove the disk and stick in a disk with data in
DS> it, and try to get a dir of a data disk, the system crashes. I have
DS> tried everything. Anyone had the same probs??
I had some similar troubles; I used to end up somewhere in the AMI Bios, with a
message saying "No ROM BASIC"!, if I accessed the CD before it was ready.
However, this problem has 'gone away' now ... I can't for the life of me think
what I changed to fix it :-) [I'd got into the habit of counting to 10, before
accessing the disk, so I didn't notice that the problem had gone for a while]
Why don't you try booting with a minimal configuration?...if that works, then
start adding things back in, until it fails again. You might have to do this
with both the hardware and the software tho'.
Phil.
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From: PHIL HORNBY Number: 851
To: JOHN GOERL Date: 08/11/93 9:26p
Subj: Initial Message Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JG> This message initalizes this conference (FNPACK)!
's'funny ... it was already initialised at my end :-)
Phil.
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From: VINCE SORENSEN Number: 852
To: ALL Date: 08/13/93 12:49p
Subj: CANADIAN SOURCE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Still hundreds in stock!
Get the latest Shareware on Night Owl 9 for only $35 Canadian
including all taxes... plus receive Shareware Studio I at
no extra charge when you buy Night Owl and *ANY* other of our
many in-stock titles.
CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA
306-789-4654 Voice
306-789-8690 Fax
6 Armstrong Bay, Regina, Sask., S4N 4G7
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From: EDWARD PALMER Number: 853
To: MODERATOR Date: 08/13/93 11:48a
Subj: Duplicate Messages Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Lately I've noticed a plague of old messages reappearing in this echo.
There were a bunch from zone 2, but there were also some from zone 1. No
wonder this echo is so big, it's full of echos!! Is this problem being
worked on?
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From: TERRY WOODWARD Number: 854
To: MARK DIGNAM Date: 08/12/93 4:49p
Subj: Cd Rom mastering... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MD>I can produce HFS disks on a Philips CDD521 CdRom Recorder. Its quite easy -
MD>when you write your own software. Mind you, I do it on a PC based platform.
Ok. Can you restore a RetroSpect format, 8mm Exabyte tape?
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From: SHAWN RUTLEDGE Number: 855
To: GLENN SANDERSE Date: 08/13/93 9:45p
Subj: Cd writing service Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 08-11-93 at 00:08, Glenn Sanderse opened a subspace channel to Shawn
Rutledge and they talked about CD WRITING SERVICE as fol
GS>Give me a voice phone # and I'll have a U.S. retailer give you a call
GS>not the software yet.) Dataware is somewhere in MA, I'll find a
GS>number for you.
Thanks a lot. My phone number is (602) 968-6516. Will be looking
forward to hearing from them.
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From: TONY DAVIS Number: 856
To: BOB HALL Date: 08/14/93 9:00a
Subj: SHAREWARE CD ROM Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
I dont know who you people are but im getting mssgs that arnt mine.......whats
up....
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From: THE WIZARD Number: 857
To: PETER DETTELIS Date: 08/13/93 1:07a
Subj: Re: CD'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
You wouldn't happen ta have a CD-ROM drive fer sale cheap as well, would ya?
... What do you mean? You actually read this Tagline?!?
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From: BRIAN TALBOT Number: 858
To: ZACHARY HAMM Date: 08/13/93 9:35p
Subj: Bsr Tech support # Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
ZH>Does anybody have the BSR Tech Support number for the BSR CD-ROM Drive
>that DAK sold? DAK will not support it after 30 days.
ZH>Zack Hamm
BSR CD roms are made by Mitsumi with a BSR name plate. Contact Mitsumi
at
4655 Old Ironsides Dr. Ste. 130
Santa Clara, CA 95040
Tel: 408-970-0700 Fax: 408-727-5337
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QMPro 1.01 41-5234 All rising to a great place is by a winding stair.
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From: RANDY WHITE Number: 859
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/14/93 9:47a
Subj: MORE CD'S ON SALE! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm looking for Willy Bemish and Space Quest IV on CD, do you have them and can
you give me a Price...Thanks Randy...
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From: JOHN BLOOM Number: 860
To: TANYA BROCK Date: 08/14/93 11:56a
Subj: Re: Two mitsumi drives? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting John Bloom to Tanya Brock <=-
JB>
JB> Sorry to jump in like this.
JB> Tanya there a drivers now for os/2on the ibm bbs.
TB> No reason to be sorry! Will call IBM pronto to get a password!
TB> ....Later....
TB> Called the OS/2 BBS and couldn't find anything online so I downloaded
TB> the ALLFILES list and searched thru that. Still couldn't find anythin
TB> so I called OS/2 Support. They say "we do not support the Mitsumi
TB> drive". Could you perhaps be a bit more specific about this driver?
I look around and get back to you.
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From: BLAINE RICHARD Number: 861
To: CHRIS JOHNSON Date: 08/14/93 2:13p
Subj: Re: NEW CD-SOUTHERN BEAUTIES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message to Blaine Richard <08-12-93 08:12> Chris Johnson wrote:
> BR> ********** SOUTHERN BEAUTIES MAY NOT BE USED ON ANY BBS
> Why?
>
Chris the reason being that Southern Beauties is a FULLY COPYRIGHTED adult CD
Rom disc and the images on this disc are not intended for public distribution.
I'm sure your aware that it is a FEDERAL offense to reproduce, distribute, or
exhibate copyrighted images. I hope this has answered your question.
Blaine R. Richard III
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 862
To: CHRISTIAN KADERUD Date: 08/13/93 5:04p
Subj: Wing Commander II Deluxe Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Any answers appreciated, right now i'm thinking of returning the game
-> retaler...
Don't do that! It's a great game!
-> The game lock-ups after i have completed the configuration, when it's
-> to start WC.
Try changing the configuration setup.. It might be a conflict with the
sound card or another setting.
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 863
To: DOUG TAXIS Date: 08/13/93 9:06p
Subj: Re: CD ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I was just wondering I am going to buy a new CD ROM I was going to
-> get the Toshiba xm-3401b, but they tell it will work with my Sound
-> Blaster Pro, Other people I talk to that sells the same Toshiba model
-> says my Sound Blaster Pro will not work with the Toshiba, Was told I
-> need a scuzzy card for it to work. I talk to others who said no matte
-> what I do my SBP will not work with the CDROM does anybody out there
-> know for sure if it will work or will I have to by a new Sound Card?
First off, incase you didn't know, 'scuzzy' is SCSI (Small Computer
Systems Interface).
Second, there are 2 ways to hook up the SBPro, 1 is as a controller
through the wide ribbon-cable connector. (Panasonic CD-ROM drives)
2 there is a small 4 wire plug that can be hooked to most CD-ROMs for
the audio connection.
The SBPro can't be used as the controller on the Toshiba, but it should
be able to be used for the audio.
Look in the manuals about the pin-outs on both the CD-ROM drive and the
sound card. If the cable that comes with either the drive or sound card
fits, it should work. If it doesn't, Radio Shack or some other place
like it should be able to make one for you using the information about
the pin assignments in your manuals.
Hope this clears some things up for you :)
Henry
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 864
To: TRAVIS CAMPBELL Date: 08/13/93 9:24p
Subj: Police Quest 4 (CD-ROM) Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> This message is for anyone who is interested in Sierra games.. Police
-> 4, is coming out sometime in September.. They will have the cd-rom ve
-> and hardrive version out at about the same time.. From what I have re
-> it doesn't use Sonny Bonds anymore.. They have a new character, but I
-> remember his name.. Also sounds like the back grounds to all of the p
-> you can go are kinda like gifs.. Sounds like a REAL neat game.. I hav
-> first 3 versions of Police Quest.. I thought part 3 was the best, I l
-> the idea of part 1, but I have the old version, and the graphics stin
-> But part 4 is supposed to be the best game Sierra has ever came out w
-> (so far)
Ahhhh! A fellow Sierra fan! About PQ4,,,, They use a 'computer camera'
to take snapshots of the locations for the game right in L.A.!
They fill the camera's RAM memory and download the pictures into a hard
drive. The characters are Sierra employees... In PQ3 at the end there is
a 'CAST' of characters...
If you like PQ3, ccheck out KQ6 CD! It's hot! 50meg opening cartoon by
Kronos, the company that did the 3d rendering work on Batman Returns!
Nice chatting with a fellow fan!
Henry
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 865
To: ERIC LOTT Date: 08/13/93 9:32p
Subj: Cd-Rom Help Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I really need some advice and help concerning CD-ROM. Right now I
-> have a 386/DX40 with 4 megs RAM, a 330 meg HD, and a SB Pro. I'm
-> trying to decide if I should upgrade to a 486 (33 or 66), or get
-> into CD-ROM. People (who don't know alot) have told me that the SB
-> will only work with the Creative Lab's drive (Panasonic), is this
-> true? Basically, I'd like to know what some of you would do,
-> upgrade the CPU, or go for the drive, keeping in mind that I am an
-> avid game player.
First off, the 386 DX/40 is faster than some 486's like the 25...
Second, the SBPro will connect to ONLY Panasonic drives as the
CONTROLLER. You can connect it to just about anything for the AUDIO
connection.
-> If I decided upon a CD, what is my best course of action. I
-> have heard that the SB can be used without any problem by using an
-> adapter, or changing the interface between the card and drive. I've
-> also heard that a new, faster drive will be released by Creative
-> Labs (lower than 390 ms). I don;t want to buy a slow, or below
-> average drive, and so, would appreciate if anyone could tell me what
-> I should be looking for. I might be interested in a package deal,
-> although I am happy with my soundcard, and don't really want some of
-> the discs that come with them.
Okay, I just got a Mitsumi 350ms 150kb/sec for $200 just drive and cont.
If you mailorder it, you can find it for about $185 or so with software.
It has it's own controller though.
Since you have the SBPro, I would get a Panasonic so you don't use a
slot, and you can hook it up without worrying about difficulties...
The computer you have is just fine for a CD-ROM drive.
If you did upgrade instead go for the DX2/66 board.
Hope this clears up some questions for you,
Henry
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 866
To: STEPHEN COCHRAN Date: 08/13/93 9:41p
Subj: Re: Magnto-optical disc Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> You are right about there being no "magnetic beam", but wrong about
-> the laser.
->
-> A MO drive has a "write head" that consists of two parts. The first
-> is a magnetic head which spans the entire radius of the disk. This is
-> used to set the magnetic polarity of the bits, one bit at a time.
-> Since the media is affected by this field only when it reaches it's
-> "Curie point", the laser is used to heat the media at the proper bit
-> positions. The Curie Point is that temperature where the material is
-> affected by a magnetic field (very simplistic definition). The
-> sequence is as follows:
->
-> The magnetic field is set to write 0's. The laser is used to heat the
-> media at ALL positions where bits will be changing. This writes 0's
-> to all changed locations. The field is then set to write 1's
-> (opposite polarity). The laser heats the media at all bit positions
-> that should be written as 1's. This is a write-twice situation when
-> writing 1's, and a write-once when writing 0's. That's why they are
-> so much slower writing than when reading. Reading only takes 1 pass.
-> BTW, I may have the sequence backwards (1's first, 0's second), but
-> the principal is correct.
That's what I have read in SEVERAL magazines, and a couple guys told me
I was crazy! Thanks for backing me up!
I didn't think a magnetic 'beam' was possible either, but that is the
way they described it...
TTYL,
Henry
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From: HAROLD LEDUC Number: 867
To: MARIO DI MAMBRO Date: 08/11/93 4:18p
Subj: Chess Meister 5Billion a Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MDM>I saw a chess game that I thought was awesome. Chess Meister 5 billion & 1
>I loved Battle chess (in it's time) and I can't wait to get my hands on
>this chess simulator. I was hoping I could get a version on CD ('cause it
>take 27 megs on the HD). If there an enhanced version (although the graphi
>couldn't be much better) that would be great. I hope someone out there has
>it.
SAVE YOUR MONEY it not very good to play it looks like fun and is but
the angle that you look at it is bad to see unlike battle chess witch is
the better game to play! Yes you can change the angle you look at it but
it still is not good and well drive you crazy to play at least that is
the way I see it!
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From: DAN POLIVY Number: 868
To: ALL Date: 08/11/93 11:21p
Subj: Shareware cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Anyone,
I was looking for a Shareware CD for my BBS. I run MAXIMUS. I was looking
too see if anyone had any suggestions on what to gey, what to stay away from,
etc. Any help would be appreciated.
Dan
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From: RUSSELL BOYCE Number: 869
To: ALAN EDWARDS Date: 08/11/93 9:06a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Drives?? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Does this mean there is something major wrong with the
> Mitsumi drives?
It means they were designed for the low end market and for that purpose they
were well designed and manufactured.Those trying to use them in place of
drives three times the price are dissapointed.
> but I am interested because I am considering buying a
> Mitsumi drive.
If you don't need daisy chaining of several drives or the fastest speed it is
a very good choice.It is easy to install in most cases and works better than
some of the higher priced drives.
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From: DAN POLIVY Number: 870
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/12/93 1:07p
Subj: Re: red hot summer Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Boris,
-> >> Do you have OS/2 2.1 on CD?
->
-> On it's way in here !!!
How much will it be? Can you please NETMAIL info to me at 1:101/138.14?
Thanks.
Dan
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 871
To: MICHAEL MCKINLEY Date: 08/12/93 1:54p
Subj: CD-ROM Games Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Yeah Michael, I am interested in what you have to say, what games do you
suggest, I already bought King's Quest 5, please explain what
interactive games are like, and how much they cost? C-ya
Ashwin
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 872
To: LOU PETRALIA Date: 08/12/93 1:55p
Subj: CD-ROM GAMES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey thanx Lou, how much did you pay for that game? I saw that game
somewhere but did not pay too much attention to it, what are the specs
required to run that game, and also can I use a SoundBlaster 2.0(mono)
for sound, and are they VGA or superVGA graphics. C-ya
Ashwin
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 873
To: TRAVIS CAMPBELL Date: 08/12/93 1:57p
Subj: Re: Cd-rom games Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey thanx travis, I will really look into Wing Commander II, how much
did you pay for that game yourself? now that I think of it I don't
really want to buy 7th guest, I shall spend that money on games like
Wing Commander II. thanx and C-ya
Ashwin
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From: JANUSZ SUROWKA Number: 874
To: MICHAEL KONOR Date: 08/12/93 7:37p
Subj: TOSHIBA CDROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
would you consdider a trade in offer, or mabye a trade???
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From: JANUSZ SUROWKA Number: 875
To: GREG HASKINS Date: 08/12/93 7:40p
Subj: DOS 6.0 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
they added a memory manager, hard disk compression utility, anti-virus for
windows, backup for windows(uses compression, excellent), and alot more other
goodies
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From: JANUSZ SUROWKA Number: 876
To: MICHAEL MULCAHY Date: 08/12/93 7:40p
Subj: ENCYCLOPEDIA CD'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
try the "Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia".
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From: JANUSZ SUROWKA Number: 877
To: RON URBASSIK Date: 08/12/93 7:41p
Subj: MANPOWER - NEW GAY CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
oh boy, that's excellent <G> "fags on disc"
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From: JANUSZ SUROWKA Number: 878
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/12/93 7:42p
Subj: PAS16 OR SBPRO16ASP? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
go for the SB16ASP
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From: JANUSZ SUROWKA Number: 879
To: CAM LERCH Date: 08/12/93 7:44p
Subj: OLD 600MS CD-ROM DRIVES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
i don't know if im replying late, but i have an older SOny CD-ROM drive
will sell for about US$125, i live in Connecticut USA
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From: JANUSZ SUROWKA Number: 880
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/12/93 7:46p
Subj: PRO AUDIO OR SOUNDBLAST? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
go for teh SB16ASP
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From: GENE EHRICH Number: 881
To: ALL Date: 08/14/93 7:51a
Subj: Wanted cable texel - pas- Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I need a cable to go between mr Texel CD-ROM and my PAS-16?
Anybody got one to sell?
===
* QMPro 1.50 41-4216 * He does the work of 3 Men...Moe, Larry & Curly
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From: DON KULHA Number: 882
To: JOE HAYES Date: 08/12/93 12:05p
Subj: CDROM Slows BBS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JH> I don't run the Pioneer DRM-600 drive here, but I
JH> do have your problem. I run 3 lines with Lantasti
JH> net. The problem seems to me to be when a request
JH> is made from a workstation it must be met before
JH> going on to another node's request.
JH> That may or may not be the problem, since I don't
JH> <g>know a lot about networking ..
JH> I don't know any way around it, I have tried
JH> everything I can think of. Wait until a cdrom
JH> can't find a file GEEEEZ! the whole darn board
JH> (all nodes) will set and wait for ever!
Exactly my experience. I was running 7 individual CD's (Hitachi 3500) on
a non-dedicated server which ran one line (last in rotation) of our 4 lines.
The other BBS machine runs a floppy (to boot onto the LAN), 3 Intel satisfaxion
400's, QEMM/DV, and 3 BBS sessions on a 486/SLC2/66 (IBM planar) using AI4.1
NOS and ethernet. When I ran Lantastic the system was commonly getting hung up,
sometimes *it seemed* merely by collisions. I couldn't get rid of this with
Lantastic so I switched to WEBCORP NOS 4.0 out of frustration. I'm sure glad I
did that! Web never seems to hang, seems a bit faster and was easier, for my
setup, to install and tune. It's burst mode really hauls the data. With Web you
load the NOS after the computer has done all it's handshaking with it's
resources including the CD's. It's worked flawlessly with my CD's which is
ironic since that's why I bought into lantastic in the first place. The other
thing I like about WEB NOS is that it's less finicky about what network cards
it can use and in some instances supports more options on them (ie,
addresses/IRQs). Good stuff...made my life a bit more pleasant. Their number is
1.415.331.1449 in Sausalito, CA.
DCK
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From: DIANA KIRKSEY Number: 883
To: BILL GEE Date: 08/13/93 7:00p
Subj: Marginal cd-rom drives Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
EG>BG>CB>to buy a Toshiba 3401 model CD-ROM drive that has a 200
EG>BG>CB>price for it is pretty enormous, $700. Do you need absolutely need th
I just bought the Toshiba 3401(internal) with the PAS16 and setup kit
for $549 at CD-Rom Direct.The Drive by itself is $399 and around $80 or
something if you just want the SCSI interface,but it's a much better
buy with the PAS16.
Diana
===
* OLX 2.1 * Press "+" to see another tagline.
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From: DIANA KIRKSEY Number: 884
To: CHRIS CONKLIN Date: 08/13/93 7:00p
Subj: Free catalog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GM> CC> C-3 Production Systems is now online. If you would like to receive
GM> CC> catalog of CD-ROM disks at discount prices, leave message here, give
GM> CC> me a call or write to the address below.
Please send a catalog to:
Diana Kirksey
1624 Hwy.99 Sp#79
Manteca,CA. 95336
Thank You,
Diana
===
* OLX 2.1 * MSI - Bringing it all together in '92
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 885
To: JAMES REYLE Date: 08/14/93 5:28p
Subj: Engineering CDs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JR> To all: Can any one tell me if there is CD rom disks geared more
JR> towanrd the Technical Engineer. Also, I'm looking for a disk that
JR> deals alot with Patents and developments. Something like what you
JR> would find out of an Almanac.
JR>
JR> James Reyle
James, I have searching for technical reference material also. Primarily
information similar to Schaums outlines on Scientifc and Mathematical
information. Should you or I find any such information I will be happy to share
it with you. Tks...m2
My internet address is michael.mulcahy@his.com
netmail is 1:109/70.986
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From: BRUCE NUNNALLY Number: 886
To: ALL Date: 08/12/93 9:32p
Subj: Ss Plays Movies Off Cd! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Now you can use the AVI movies, WAVes, and BitMaPs on your CD's as
screen savers using Projector, a screen saver for windows.
Projector is a standard Windows 3.1+ screen saver which plays movies
or images with sound. Projector will play .AVI movie files, .BMP image
files, and .WAV sound files. Scripts may be constructed, loaded, or
saved using the Projector Setup screen. Projector comes with several
bitmaps, animations, and a movie; a 21 page manual documents each
feature of the program.
Windows 3.1 with VGA required. 256 color or better display recommended.
MPC level 1 or better preferred for movie playback.
Ordering Information:
Projector is available from the author for the reasonable sum of US$15:
Bruce Nunnally, ATTN:Projector
1304 Todd Drive
Plano, TX 75023-1911
Check or money order, please. Additional info by netmail, or
via Compuserve at 73043,3375.
■ WinQwk 2.0 a#0 ■ Unregistered Evaluation Copy
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From: WAYNE FINLAY Number: 887
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 08/14/93 12:44p
Subj: CD-Rom Dupes Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi!
How recent is the Big Sky Rom? Is it newer than Night Owl 9.0?
Cheer-I/O!
> Wayne <
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 888
To: CHARLES HART Date: 08/14/93 9:59a
Subj: x-rated cd-rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CH> Somebody born before the Supreme Court reminded the world that f
CH> speech does not exist in isolation, it exists in context - and s
CH> "Fire" in a crowded theater is clearly an act of speech that sho
CH> punished absent a real fire. This context (echo) has been close
CH> certain speech - but that does _not_ prevent you from finding an
CH> friendly echo and talking about the subject all you want.
A thoughtful and considered reply - something most echos could use more
of. My congratulations (and thanks).
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From: MICHAEL KONOR Number: 889
To: ALL Date: 08/14/93 6:11p
Subj: scsi cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SCSI CDROMs For Sale:
Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM External $200.00
Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM Internal $180.00
Works great on MS-DOS, OS/2, Amiga, and Mac. Features 50 Pin True SCSI,
300ms access, 156k transfer, newest EPROMs installed, and 64k Buffer.
Service Center Refurbished. MPC Compliant. Warranty
205-837-5053 anytime.
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From: LEN GLADSTONE Number: 890
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/13/93 11:49p
Subj: Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MS> We have a catalog available with our 300+ titles that we stock. Call
MS> any time to get one by mail, or freq STARCAT.ZIP from 1:3407/101, or
MS> download STARCAT.ZIP from our BBS at 509-457-0206.
MS> STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892
MS> (VOICE) VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50
Hi Mike,
I tried to get this dnld from your bbs, but after the 14,400 connect msg and
after about 2 secs. I rec'd a "NO CARRIER" ! I tried this 3 times on 2
different days, with the same results each time. I use a USR DS HST and the
LED's showed a solid connection. No text was rec'd from your BBS at all. I'm
probably doing something wrong, but if you can shed any light upon my darkness,
I'd surely appreciate the help. Ma Bell Canada gets too much of my 70 cent
dollars as it is!
Thanks
Len Gladstone
... I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere! ___ Blue
Wave/QWK v2.12
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From: ALAN MCCREADY Number: 891
To: MIKE AVILA Date: 08/15/93 12:14a
Subj: PAS16/TEXEL 3024 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Mike thanks for answering. I downloaded the latest driver from the Mediavision
BBS I believe it was 3.02 drive still didn't work so I callled Tech help. They
were not very helpful after I waited 20-30 minutes. Only thing they said was
either the drive was bad or the SCSI cable was bad since the SCSI port on the
card was recongized but could not detect CD drive connected to it. I am tired
of messing with this and will send it back to Texel to check and repair. I
originally bought the drive as I saw the drive being sold with the PAS16 and it
is a fast drive.
ajm
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From: DAVID BALNITES Number: 892
To: RUSSELL NABER Date: 08/14/93 4:59p
Subj: POINEER CD CHANGER SYSTEM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Do have the address fro CD-ROM world or phone number I would
>like to check this magazine out and can't find it anywhere near
>me. <g>
Russell, I kinda got the name wrong, its "CD-ROM Today" the address is out of
the Magazine :
CD-ROM Today - Subscription Department
P.O. Box 54163, Boulder, CO 80322-4163
Customer Service: (201)703-9505
I hope this helps...
Moderator - Sorry bout the Commercial Post - End of thread
David
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From: MARTIN ROODENBURG Number: 893
To: JERRY WEIMER Date: 08/16/93 12:00a
Subj: Mitsumi Help!!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Jerry,
> I have a Mitsumi CD-ROM that I can't get to work. It won't read
> a disc. When I try at the DOS shell it say WARNING! Read Fult
> and when I try at the command line it says CDR101:Not ready
> reading drive D . Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
On what type op card did you hook up the drive ?
If/what dma-channel are you using ?
If/what interrupt are you using ?
What IO-port is het card set at ?
What device-driver are you using ?
What options are set for the device-driver and for MSCDEX ?
Have you tried playing audio-CD's ? (probably not)
In some cases (interrupt conflict) I've seen (and heard) a Mitsumi
play audio-CD's, but refusing to read using dos.
Just changing the interrupt did the trick.
You get the error CDR101....... so MSCDEX is in memory.
But only this knowledge is not enough (to me anyway) to help
you.
Without an answer to at least a couple of these questions, it won't
be easy to help you. (except telling you to plug-in the connectors,
but you probably already did).
Bye,
Martin.
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From: BARRY MISHKIND Number: 894
To: STEVE GERWECK Date: 08/14/93 9:26p
Subj: BEST CDROM PRICES!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On <Aug 13 93> Steve Gerweck (1:2380/120) wrote:
DC> * Busty Babes......29.95
SG> Can you match Mike Shannon's offer of $29 PPD??
Oh, come on! For 95 cents, you have sysops all over the world carrying a post
showing your unwillingness to do your business on your own dime? If a vendor
does a good job, 95 cents is nothing. Give us all a break and do your ordering
in another manner.
(Sorry Bob... it must be a bad day.)
regards
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From: CLYDE SISLER Number: 895
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/14/93 7:02p
Subj: COMPTON'S ON SALE! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Mike;
Could you tell me if your CA154 Source CD-ROM is the 3/92 Edition from
Walnut Creek?
Thanx!
Clyde
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From: CLYDE SISLER Number: 896
To: DEALERS Date: 08/14/93 7:02p
Subj: 2 things Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
It would be extremely useful if you'd include some sort of 'BBS
ready' indicator on your CD-ROM availability lists.
It would also be nice to have the name of a FReq'able catalog (if you
have a BBS and an online catalog) on your tag line (or a macro to append
it to the end of your messages).
IMHO both would begenerally useful and cut down on repetitive traffic.
--- RAMail 3.1
* Origin: Our BBS - Derry, NH (603) 432-5287 - USR DS 16.8 (1:132/193)
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From: IAN BISHOP Number: 897
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/12/93 6:58p
Subj: New Mpc Specs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE>> Anyway, the number of people that I discuss things with via FidoNET, etc
RE>> has given a reasonable enough sample for me to say that at least 30% of
RE>> the current PC users have a machine that with minor alterations would
RE>> meet this spec... Namely the installation of a fast CD-ROM or a 1Meg
RE>> SVGA card... This spec and the possible new games/applications written
RE>> for MPC L2 will put a lot of pressure on users to "go the extra"....
Very good point you make there Rowan. I'd tend to agree with your
observations in general. In fact, I'll just point out how correct they
are when related to the machines I have been selling
1. All have 170+ MB drives
2. All have 1MB SVGA cards
3. Will be fitting Panasonic 562 drives as required
btw. Sorry I couldn't get back to you about the 562 when you netmailed
me. At that time, the drive hadn't been officially released in
Australia and Osborne in Sydney were the only suppliers that had them
(even their Brisbane office knew nothing about them, but I wasn't
surprised)
Best Regards, Ian Bishop
* OLX 2.1 TD * Bishop's Computers : +61-7-372-2838
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From: IAN BISHOP Number: 898
To: DANNY TONG Date: 08/12/93 7:10p
Subj: Cd-rom rentals? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DT>>A "TRY-BEFORE-YOU-BUY" CD-ROM will be offered by IBM to PC manufacturers
DT>>for bundling with their systems. The CD will include
DT>>dozens of fully functional programs from major software
This sounds very interesting. Would you be so kind as to post any
further information you happen to recieve about it? I have a feeling
that this will be the way of the future (much like some of the disks
that came with boxes of blank disks years ago which could only be
unlocked by phoning for the key) and will be interested to hear how it
will operate
* OLX 2.1 TD * Bishop's Computers : +61-7-372-2838
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From: PETER LANE-COLLETT Number: 899
To: ERIC TREMBLAY Date: 08/07/93 5:30a
Subj: Magnavox CDD 461 CD-ROM and MSCDEX.EXE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message on <Aug 03> at <08:32>, Eric Tremblay of (1:249/111) writes:
ET> accepting the command and moving on. AND then my drive doesn't work. I
ET> mean I can switch to the drive by typing E: but then I can't do a DIR on
ET> it or anything. I get a CDR101: Unable to Read Disk.
ET> So my question is I have MSCDEX.EXE v 2.20 is there a newer
ET> version that I can F'REQ or DL from anyone out there?
what version of DOS are you using? MSCDEX v2.2 is for DOS 6. If you are using
DOS 5 you might try v2.1. I had to do that when I was trying to install
something in Windows.
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From: STEPHEN EATON Number: 900
To: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Date: 08/13/93 8:12a
Subj: Re: CD-Rom Problems Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GMJ> Well, judging from the load of trouble DOS6 has been
GMJ> causing worldwide, you could always go back to DOS5,
GMJ> like I did. Just a suggestion.
I did, but No difference, I ended up finding the card had stuffed up. Oh well
you get that on the big jobs !
Stephen...
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From: JOHN LAWRENCE Number: 901
To: ALL Date: 08/11/93 10:20p
Subj: CDROM Disks Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi All,
Does anyone know if you can get shareware CD`s for Atari as my BBS
supports Atari so was looking for software
reply to 3:774/400
thanks John
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From: SHERRALYNNE DEWHIRST Number: 902
To: DAVID BENFELL Date: 08/11/93 4:10p
Subj: CD-ROM enquiry Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I don't want to purchase these two CD's because the people that want
them don't have a CD-ROM. What I would like to do is to pay a sum of
money if that is necessary and download them. Is that possible? These
people are very keen to get their hands on this software. Please leave
a message for me or ring myself or my husband Keith on 04-5689710 after
6.00 p.m. regarding this.
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From: KEVIN MOLONEY Number: 903
To: DAVID BENFELL Date: 08/12/93 9:32p
Subj: CD-ROM Catalog!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi David,
Please add my name to your mailing list:
Kevin Moloney
39a Woodcote Drive
Glenfield
AUCKLAND
Cheers,
* SPITFIRE v3.3
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* Origin: The Edge, Auckland, NZ (3:772/295.0)
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From: DAVID BENFELL Number: 904
To: SHERRALYNNE DEWHIRST Date: 08/13/93 6:27a
Subj: CD-ROM enquiry Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I don't want to purchase these two CD's because the people that want
-> them don't have a CD-ROM. What I would like to do is to pay a sum of
-> money if that is necessary and download them. Is that possible?
-> These people are very keen to get their hands on this software.
-> Please leave a message for me or ring myself or my husband Keith on
-> 04-5689710 after 6.00 p.m. regarding this.
It's a bit impossible to download something like this to run from a Hard
Drive... they're not designed for that and I doubt they would work....
Besides, the amount of hard drive space you'd need for this (a few
hundred megabytes) makes it a bit restrictive. And as they're
commercial programs, that causes a problem as well. Sorry I can't help
out there.
Cheers
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From: MARTIN TAYLOR Number: 905
To: STEPHEN RANSON Date: 08/10/93 10:51a
Subj: Re: Night Owl 9 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Stephen.
> The Australian CD-ROM Club has Night Owl's 9 for $69 or $62.10
> for members with their 10% discount on our list prices.
Can you give me prices on the following?
Microsoft Encarta
Pier 2
PC-SIG 12 or later
If your prices are competitive compared to the Melbourne dealers I have seen
recently, then I will seriously consider joining the "club". Thing is, I have
found most dealers don't carry stock. They tend to rely on you paying up front
then ordering in the CDs. One place I ordered a couple of CDs from told me they
had them in stock. A few days later, no delivery. A phone call to say they are
"temporarily out of stock" or "waiting on back orders" was the result.
If they can't guarentee delivery within a few working days then I go elsewhere.
Cheers,
Martin.
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From: MARTIN TAYLOR Number: 906
To: DANNY TONG Date: 08/10/93 10:57a
Subj: Re: Doublespeed cd news! 4 sb Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Danny.
> It's reported that Creative Labs will offer a double-speed CD-ROM drive.
> The drive will be made by Panasonic and work directly with the Sound
> Blaster Pro and Sound Blaster 16 sound cards. The "Creative Double Speed
It's not bad. I purchased mine about a month ago. Works well too. Cost me about
$1200 Australian. That's about $804 USD. How quick it is compared to a
"standard" CD ROM I don't know as I haven't been able to compare them. But I am
happy with it.
Cheers,
Martin
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From: DANIEL SIGMUND Number: 907
To: TRAVIS CAMPBELL Date: 08/14/93 11:09p
Subj: Re: Cd-rom games Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE: Re: Cd-rom games
BY: Travis Campbell to ASHWIN BIHARI on Mon Aug 09 1993 06:25 pm
> -=> Quoting Ashwin Bihari to All <=-
>
> AB> Hey all, I just bought a CD-ROM and got a couple of shareware disks
> AB> with it, I was looking for some games to buy for it, so if anyone has
> AB> any good games for sale please leave me a message and also could
> AB> someone suggest some good games to buy, I was told that 7th guest is
> AB> good, is it really, what are the specs required to run that game...
> AB> Please write back, C-ya
> AB> Ashwin
>
>
> AB> -!- WM v2.03/92-0157
> AB> ! Origin: Hawk's Nest BBS Methuen, Ma. (508) 688-1979(1:324/123)
>
> Hi Ashwin.. I am from Pueblo, Colorado.. The requirements for 7th Guest are
> 386/25 processor or better, 580 memory, and just about any cd-rom will do
> but if it isn't multi spin then the game is REAL SLOW.. It is vga, and
> Sound Board Compatible..
> Some other good games on CD-ROM are "The Secret Of Monkey Island 1 & 2, I
> that the Cd-rom Sierra games have been done real good on cd-rom, like Kings
> Quest, and Space Quest, and soon Police Quest 4 (in september, if you like
> sierra games), but one of the best games I have ever seen on cd-rom is
> Wing Commander 2, with speech pack... " Hope this was some help....
>
> Travis Campbell
>
> ... Not tonight, dear. I have a modem.
>
> --- EzyQwk V1.02
> * Origin: The DIALOG Board | Pueblo, Co. | (719)546-3567 | (1:307/12)
Try Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego?, espically if you have a sound card
hooked up.
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 908
To: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON Date: 08/12/93 8:12a
Subj: SBPro CD ROM Drives Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CB>Just want to ask you a ???, is the new Panasonic 562B model
CB>CD-ROM drive compatible with MULTI-session photo CD & is it
CB>entirely compatible with OS/2 2.1 & if it isn`t, can we get
The 562B is Double spin, Kodak and multisession compatible
It does not come with OS/2 drive but you can call Panasonic
at 1-800-222-0584
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 909
To: MARK RICHARDSON Date: 08/12/93 8:12a
Subj: SBPro Refer: NONE
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MR> I have a Sound Blaster Pro and am interested in buying a CD-ROM. Besides
MR> the Creative Labs CD-ROM, which one will work nicely with my card and
Panasonic would work direct with your SB Pro. However any CDROM come
with controller would also work with it.
CD-ROM Sony 31A with controller ...............................$229.
CD-ROM Panasonic 522B for SB Pro 380ms w/caddy.................$195.
CD-ROM Panasonic 562B 320ms w/contlr caddyless 300k/s 64kcache.$279.
CD-ROM MicroSolution Parallel port 350ms 128k cache caddyless..$369.*
CD-ROM Texel DM-3024 SCSI, 265ms, 300k/sec transfer, 64k cache $399.
CD-ROM Toshiba MX3401b SCSI drive,Kodak comp.200ms, 256k cache $449.
MIDI cable for any sound card with Joystick port...............$19.
Price does not included shipping.
Call 310-602-2076 8AM-12PM, 6PM-9PM PST or mail order payable to: TRUC
16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723. Accept money order, COD $5extra
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 910
To: ALL Date: 08/14/93 8:14a
Subj: CDROM forsale Refer: NONE
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Sound Galaxy NX Pro + Mitsumi CD-ROM ..........................$289.
CD-ROM Mitsumi CRMC LU-005S w/contlr 630MB, 350ms, Kodak comp. $179.
CD-ROM Sony 31A with controller ...............................$229.
CD-ROM Panasonic 522B for SB Pro 380ms w/caddy.................$195.
CD-ROM Panasonic 562B 320ms w/contlr caddyless 300k/s 64kcache.$279.
CD-ROM MicroSolution Parallel port 350ms 128k cache caddyless..$369.*
CD-ROM Texel DM-3024 SCSI, 265ms, 300k/sec transfer, 64k cache $399.
CD-ROM Toshiba MX3401b SCSI drive,Kodak comp.200ms, 256k cache $449.
Creative Lab Discovery 8. CD-ROM + SB Pro + 3 CDs + Speakers...$399.*
Creative Lab Discovery 16. CD-ROM+ SB 16 + 3 CDs + Speakers...$459.*
Call 310-602-2076 8AM-12PM, 6PM-9PM PST or mail order payable to: TRUC
16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723. Accept money order, COD $5extra
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 911
To: ALL Date: 08/14/93 8:14a
Subj: $19 CDROM titles Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TRUC 16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723 fax 310-402-7240
Call 310-602-2076 8am-12pm, 6pm-9pm PST ask Wee Yung.
Amanda Stories MPC..............$49 Animals version 1.0.............$29
Arthur's Teacher Trouble........$25 American Bussiness Phone book 92$19*
Authorware Star for Windows.....$39 Bring The World To Your Senses..$19*
Baker's dozen window games......$19* Barron's College Guide..........$35
Beauty and Beast Storybook MPC..$29 Carmen San Diego................$29
CIA Wolrd Fact Book.WI..........$19* CICA windows sharewares.........$19*
Collection of PC Graphics.......$25 Colossal Cookbook...............$19*
Compton's Encyclopedia MPC.Win..$69 Chess Master 3000 MPC ..........$25
Choose the Right College........$19* Dictionary of the Living World..$39
Dictionaries and Languages......$19* Dinosaur Adventure..............$35
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From: ERIK S. Number: 912
To: ALL Date: 08/14/93 12:33p
Subj: CD-ROM Refer: NONE
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Could someone please tell me about what I should exepct from my CD-ROM and how
good it is compared to others?
Here are the specs:
Sound Blaster Pro compatible sound card with CD-ROM interface (Sound Galaxy
Pro)
CD-ROM =
175kb/sec
1.6mb/sec "burst"
350ms 1/3 stroke
AT interface
32kb buffer
MTBF: 250000 H
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 913
To: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Date: 08/14/93 4:35p
Subj: Re: New Mpc Specs Refer: NONE
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RE>> Processor :- 25Mhz 80486
RE>> RAM :- 4Mb minimum
RE>> Video :- 640 x 480 x 65,535 colours
SL>> (1Mb SVGA card!)
RE>> CD-ROM :- 300Kbps (I forget the avg access time!)
RE>> Hard Drive :- 170Mb minimum Sound Card :-
RE>> MUST have 16 bit DAC and 16 bit ADC - I
RE>> disremember the record/playback
SL>> It would be a rare person to have a computer with these specs!
SL>> Especially the CD-ROM/Sound Card combo.
LR> Not at all. All the new CD-ROM drives are
GM> "double speed", and
LR> some are quad speed (600Kbps), and the new sound
GM> cards are all 16 bit.
GM> Yes, well. They are available if that's what you mean,
GM> but they sure aren't that AFFORDABLE, are they? By the
Compared to what? I have a system that easily exceeds all the specs
given.
GM> way,what's that about 640*480*65,535 cols? A SVGA card is
GM> still 256 or am I confused here?
You must be. 16 bit SVGA cards are quite common, and any 1Meg card is
capable of being designed to support 16 bits at that resolution. I just sold
an ATI VGA Wonder XL to a friend (used) for $135, and I'm sure that they can be
had new for about $180 or so.
Les
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 914
To: RON FINDLING Date: 08/14/93 4:40p
Subj: Re: New Mpc Specs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RF> > Or one of the other 16 bit boards. I couldn't get
RF> >the Logitech 16 bit sound board to work with OS//2, but the
RF> >Pro Audio Spectrum 16 works just fine.
RF> You mean the Logitech won't work at ALL, or just with the OS/2
RF> multimedia support? How was it with DOS games and the Win-OS/2
RF> multimedia support, for example?
I don't play games and I don't do Windows, so I couldn't say.
Les
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From: DIANE PENCIL Number: 915
To: MARK WOMACK Date: 08/14/93 11:34a
Subj: kodak photo CD Refer: NONE
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> BC> does anyone know how i can get photo cds made or where i can get them
> BC> made. also if anyone has the phone # of kodak please post it! thanxs
> BC> for any info!
> Beth, try Wolf Camera if you have one in your area. I went to a photo
> specialty store who sent it to Kodak. It is a pain finding these
> places isn't it!? I would try calling every conceivable place in the
> phone book.
> By the way, the price varies, but it can be as high as $2 per picture
> put on the disc.
That's a good suggestion. Beth might also try Wallmart. Our WallMart offers
this service for about 1.25 a picture.
Diane
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From: CHANCHAI HOSANGUAN Number: 916
To: JOHN BRANCIFORTE Date: 08/13/93 4:05p
Subj: Re: Cd-rom for sale! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JB> Grolier MM Encyc. Ver.5.01 - Motion video Clips, Photos, Sounds, &
JB> Maps etc. Sacrifice, Last One Left - Asking $25.00 Includes Shp. (2
I'm very interested. Please let me know the address to send the check. Regards.
// Chanchai
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From: DAVE SUMMERS Number: 917
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 08/13/93 4:32p
Subj: Re: CD-ROMs and DESQview Refer: NONE
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While throwing darts at a picture of our
"Commander In Chief", I heard HENRY PAUL tell DAVE SUMMERS this:
HP> If you haven't tried on the command line give it a shot, you have
HP> nothing to lose, and you are NOT a dumb a#@ !
HP> ( I am only 17, but installed my own drive and have studied
HP> everything I
HP> can about the drivers, players etc...)
I've opened a DOS window and tried running it from the prompt and it won't
work that way either. Yes I'm running a music CD and everything works fine at
first, but the moment Front Door reinitializes the modem, or if the phone
rings, or if I do anything else it freezes up - sometimes to where I have to
reboot. It happens when I run any Sound Blaster-related file too. I get a
QEMM message stating that I need to allocate more environment for DMA. I'm not
sure how to do that since I don't have the docs for QEMM anymore (lost in the
almighty divorce shuffle).
I'm sure it's a conflict of some sort. I use a cheap Leading Technology
computer. Hopefully the problem will clear up in October when I purchase a
real computer:).
Thanks for your help
The Handyman, Sysop
Home Improvement BBS
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From: DAVE SUMMERS Number: 918
To: CRAIG DOBIE Date: 08/13/93 4:34p
Subj: Re: Telegard with CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
While throwing darts at a picture of our
"Commander In Chief", I heard Craig Dobie tell Dave Summers this:
CD> *Where can I get some info on that series??
CD>
CD>
You can either call my board and go into the door for the info at (217)
893-0844, or you can call their support board at (602)299-0693 or (602)
577-6969.
The Handyman, Sysop
Home Improvement BBS
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From: STEVE MCKAIN Number: 919
To: ALL Date: 08/14/93 6:22p
Subj: NEC CDR-25 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello folks,
I'm looking for information about the NEC CDR-25 CD ROM drive, ie:
access times, reliability, and can this drive be daisy chained, that
kinda stuff.
Much Thanks-in-Advance
Steve
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From: JON DECARMINE Number: 920
To: KEVIN PLUMMER Date: 08/09/93 10:16a
Subj: Re: Night Owls 9 Refer: NONE
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KP+--> Night Owl 9.0 For Sale As many copies as you would like for
KP+--> $ 25.00 a Copy !!!
KP+--> Tell them Kevin sent you for this Deal or
KP+--> it will be higher.
If I tell them Kevin sent me will they lay off on the five dollar
shipping charges??? Why not just say it's for sale for $30.00 and
give NORMAL shipping prices?
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From: JON DECARMINE Number: 921
To: JOHN YAMOYANY Date: 08/09/93 10:18a
Subj: 7TH GUEST Refer: NONE
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JY+-->I've recently finished The 7th Guest, it is excellent, the ending sequenc
Hi John! I know nothing about the game itself, but since you are
finished with it, would you consider selling it?
* OLX 2.1 * He who dies with the most toys is dead...
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From: JAMES REYLE Number: 922
To: MICHAEL MULCAHY Date: 08/15/93 7:50p
Subj: Engineering CDs Refer: NONE
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-> JR> To all: Can any one tell me if there is CD rom disks geared mor
-> JR> towanrd the Technical Engineer. Also, I'm looking for a disk th
-> JR> deals alot with Patents and developments. Something like what y
-> JR> would find out of an Almanac.
-> JR>
-> JR> James Reyle
->
-> James, I have searching for technical reference material also. Prima
-> information similar to Schaums outlines on Scientifc and Mathematical
-> information. Should you or I find any such information I will be happ
-> it with you. Tks...m2
->
-> My internet address is michael.mulcahy@his.com
-> netmail is 1:109/70.986
-> --- MacWoof 1.5.3
-> Micheal:
Being in electronic, the closest thing I have seen is some of these
Ham radio disks. Even a good Engineering book on CD would be good. I'll
let you know. I might try some of the Bookstores.
James
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From: EDDIE SAUNIER Number: 923
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/14/93 7:30p
Subj: Re: CD-ROMS WANTED Refer: NONE
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Boris,
I have seen others requesting your catalog and I would also like a
copy once you have it completed if possible. Thanks in advance!
Eddie Saunier
Trails End #8
Leeds, AL 35094
* OLX 2.1 TD * I never lie unless it's necessary or convenient.
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From: RICK COOKE Number: 924
To: ALL Date: 08/15/93 7:55a
Subj: Virtual Sex Disk Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I saw a show on HBO featuring a CDROM that was a Virtual Reality
Xrated disk. Anyone heard of this, and know where it is available?
Rick Cooke
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From: LOIS FRANKEL Number: 925
To: BRUCE BOWMAN Date: 08/14/93 8:00p
Subj: Re: new adult cd-rom echo Refer: NONE
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On 08-09-93 20:40 Bruce Bowman shared these words of wisdom:
BB> I can understand why we wouldn't want to discuss adult materials
BB> here. However, I seem to have missed the original post. Is an adult
BB> CD-ROM area being created?
The moderator had decided that adult-cdrom's were off-topic here.
Someone suggested that a new area be created for that topic. Makes sense
to me.
... Real computers don't use mice
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From: STEWART ROTHMAN Number: 926
To: STEVE PESANT Date: 08/14/93 4:45p
Subj: Re: PRO AUDIO OR SOUNDBLAST? Refer: NONE
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> SR> well and fast. In winter when it's 50 or 60 below, it won't run at all,
> SR> so nothing could be slower as it's standing still.... rigidly!!!!
>
>SP>Hmmm. I just love that response...Pretty interesting...
>SP>However. just a little (LOT!!) off topic...How can you live
>SP>North of the North Pole...Wouldn't that be South of the
>SP>North Pole... Or isn't the North Pole really the NORTH??!?!
>SP>Just a thought <Silly Grin>
>SP> > -=Cheers=-
>SP> Steve.
Actually my message went on to discuss the PAS 16 and the comparative speed
of access, so it really wasn't off topic. By the way, I was referring to The
CITY of NORTH POLE, which is 12 miles SOUTH of FAIRBANKS, ALASKA, where I
live, So I am North of The North Pole!!!!
;-}
Stu
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From: JOS CHRISPIJN Number: 927
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/11/93 11:23a
Subj: Re: NEW CD TITLES! Refer: NONE
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Hello Mike,
Quoting your message (08-03-93 20:58) to All :
MS> BRAND NEW CD ARRIVALS AT STARVECTOR!
QRZ Ham Radio.......$19 < is this one 1993 ?
Hamware 1993........$28 < does it contain only 1993 software and how many KB
Are there more HAM radio CD's of 1993 ?
Thnx in advance.
Jos Chrispijn AllTime BBS
... Where I come from, size shape or color makes no differenc
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From: MICHAEL BERNSTEIN Number: 928
To: ED YEE Date: 08/14/93 7:30a
Subj: MSCDEX Refer: NONE
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EY> Which version should I use ? The one that came with the CD-ROM, the
EY> one in DOS, or the one in Windows ?
Use the one that came with DOS. It is the most current version (2.2).
--/\/\ike B. (Internet: mbernstein@turbo.kean.edu) from NJ
... If it wasn't for C, we would be using BASI, PASAL and OBOL!
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From: ARNIE GROSS Number: 929
To: ATSON NAKAYAMA Date: 08/13/93 1:58p
Subj: Re: General Midi Cdroms Refer: NONE
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.
08 Aug 93, Atson Nakayama writes to All:
> I am looking for cdroms that have General Midi files on them.
Lots of CD-ROMs have the standard, type 1 MIDI sequences, but the
only one with G/M support that I know of is about to be released. See
the information on SHAREWARE STUDIO III below.
> Vendor must be able to ship to Tokyo, Japan. Please reply with
> full price including shipping and handling.
I don't know whether or not you could get it directly from the
publisher, but most of the vendors who advertise in this echo will
probably be carrying the disc within the next few weeks.
I have not yet seen a full file list for SHAREWARE STUDIO III (I do
have a copy on order, but have not yet received it) but it should contain
a good bit of what you're looking for. I have been very satisfied with
the previous two discs in the series, and eighteen of my own G/M files
have been included on the third volume.
The Shareware Studio series is published by
DATA EXPRESS, INC.
6799 Windfaire Drive
Norcross, GA 30093
(404) 621-9210
- Arnie :+}
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 930
To: VINCE SORENSEN Date: 08/15/93 8:19a
Subj: Re: CANADIAN SOURCE Refer: NONE
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Are you by any chance related to the "Michella" in Busty Babes? Just
curious - same last name - both in Canada.
... I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere!
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 931
To: ALL Date: 08/15/93 8:28a
Subj: DMA Method Refer: NONE
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I have the Sony 7205 drive (came with Laser Lib.) and have been using it
in "polling" mode since day one. Would like to see if DMA would help
performance, but can't find anything in the docs about it. Anyone know
how to do this - e.g. is it a MSCDEX option or a driver param??
... From the Law Offices of Dewey, Cheatham, and Howe.
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From: MICHAEL KONOR Number: 932
To: JANUSZ SUROWKA Date: 08/15/93 6:30p
Subj: Re: TOSHIBA CDROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>would you consdider a trade in offer, or mabye a trade???
Sorry, but I have enough hardware for two machines as it is. Thanks
anyways.
*FSED91j*
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From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 933
To: ALL Date: 08/15/93 2:30p
Subj: sound blaster 16 vs 16ASP Refer: NONE
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*@SUBJECT:sound blaster 16 vs 16ASP? N
Does anyone know the diffrence between the sound blaster 16 and 16ASP?
The 16ASP has advanced signal processing? What does that mean?
Louis
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From: JAMES BUTT Number: 934
To: CHRIS HARRIS Date: 08/15/93 8:03a
Subj: Cd'S On Sale! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thanks!!!
Flower Boy
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From: CHRIS JOHNSON Number: 935
To: BLAINE RICHARD Date: 08/15/93 11:50a
Subj: Re: NEW CD-SOUTHERN BEAUTIES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BR> In a message to Blaine Richard <08-12-93 08:12> Chris Johnson wrote:
> BR> ********** SOUTHERN BEAUTIES MAY NOT BE USED ON ANY BBS >
Why?
>
BR> Chris the reason being that Southern Beauties is a
BR> FULLY COPYRIGHTED adult CD Rom disc and the images on
BR> this disc are not intended for public distribution.
BR> I'm sure your aware that it is a FEDERAL offense to
BR> reproduce, distribute, or exhibate copyrighted images.
BR> I hope this has answered your question.
BR> Blaine R. Richard III
Just askin! ;-)
BR>
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From: SAM JONES Number: 936
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/16/93 1:36a
Subj: Panasonic BenchMrk Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello,
I finally went ahead and purchased a Panasonic 562-b drive last week.
Well I got it up and running in no time and it seems fast to me (as I have
never used a CD-ROM drive before I expected it to be real slow, but I don't
find it slow at all really). Anyway I just want to make sure that my drive is
running correctly (optimum speed), so I thought I'd ask you if these bench mark
number seem ok. (I hope you have the Animal MPC.<g>)
When running the CDTEST program included on the Animals CD using the file
SDZV014.AVI (syntax: CDTEST \MOVIES\SDZV014.AVI) I get the following results:
Double Speed Mode
Max Seq.- 1,059,031 bps Random- 464,372 bps
Normal Mode
Sequential- 1,049,822 bps Random- 449,560 bps
These numbers seem to be very good (well above the 300k mark) but I am a little
worried about why the results are so similiar for both Double and Normal data
read speed modes.
If you could compare these results and answer and enlighten me I'd appreciate
it very much! Well, at least the drive is fast enough for me no matter what
the results mean.
Thanks, Sam
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From: EDWARD FOSTER Number: 937
To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 08/14/93 5:39a
Subj: $99 cd rom drives Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Terry,
Tuesday August 10 1993 00:26, Terry Blount wrote to All:
TB> @GMD: 1:3625/454
TB> Special.... for 1 week I'm offering used Hitachi 3500 internal cd rom
TB> drives for $99. I have about 20 left. 30 day warranty included.
TB> 205-824-2552
Hello Terry...I've been absent of this echo most of the summer, hows things
been for you? These are certainly some good prices...I'm interested in
purchacing 4 more drives w/card, cable & housing..Also, I have a one year old
USR/HST 16800 w/ASL thats been seen getting files at 1850 cps HST-HST and was
wondering if I could off set the price a bit on the above mentioned system that
I'd be looking to purchase from you? Also, the original 4 that I purchaced back
in 11-92 are still kickin and would I run into any conflicts?
Edward Foster, " The Oasis BBs "
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From: DIANNE WHITTINGHAM Number: 938
To: PERRY STEPHENS Date: 08/15/93 5:18p
Subj: EXCESSIVE LINE NOISE Refer: NONE
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Hello Perry,
When I called today, I was browsing through the files and started
getting excesive line noises, all sorts of characters rolling across the
bottom of the screen, and then the system locked up. I had to drop
carrier to get out of it. I don't know whether it was me or not. Just
wanted you to know that I didn't do it on purpose.
Dianne
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From: TRAVIS CAMPBELL Number: 939
To: RACHEL REPSTAD Date: 08/15/93 11:59a
Subj: Police Quest 4 (CD-ROM) Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I didn't like the typeing interface.. I like the mouse!! Do you collect any
other Sierra games? I have the King's Quest Series, The Space Quest Series, I
have alot of the old versions of the games, because I have been to lazy to go
buy the remakes! I also have Willy Beamish, & and few others here and there!
Travis
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 940
To: BOB HALL Date: 08/15/93 8:07p
Subj: Re: MAKE MONEY!! MUST READ!! Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
BH> Please do not enter a message of that nature in this echo again.
I see that some of the vendors are still advertising adult cds for sale.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 941
To: DAVID TAM Date: 08/15/93 8:13p
Subj: CD-Rom's? Refer: NONE
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DT> I overheard someone around our local area talking
DT> about setting up a "killer" BBS.... he said that he
DT> would have a 6-disc multi-changer CD-ROM.... do
DT> they actually have these out? I guess I must be
DT> REALLY new to CD-ROMs....
Yes, they really do exist. I have 3 Pioneer 6 disc changer on my BBS which
provides over 130,000 files available on-line. They are reasonably prices
considering what single units would cost.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 942
To: JOHN STEPHENSON Date: 08/15/93 8:16p
Subj: Night Owl 9 ? Refer: NONE
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JS> Has anyone got NO9 ?
JS> Is it a vast upgrade to NO8 ?
JS> Cheers,
JS> John Stephenson
Yes, we have Nightowl 9 in stock for our Fido customers at $US25 plus shipping
and handling. Call 615-339-0235 24 hours to order. It is totally new all 1993
as compared to version 8.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 943
To: SHERRALYNNE DEWHIRST Date: 08/15/93 8:20p
Subj: CD-ROM enquiry Refer: NONE
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SD> Does anybody know where I can get the software "Barney Bear Goes To
SD> School" and "Barney Bear Goes To the Moon" from?
SD> If so can you tell me
SD> whether it is available in IBM format or Amiga
SD> format. I've seen these
SD> two CD's advertised but other Sysops don't know
SD> whether it is IBM format
SD> or not. Please leave a message here if you know anything.
We have both in stock for $19.95 and $21.95 plus shipping. They are for an IBM
machine. You can order them 24 hours by calling 615-339-0235 and all credit
cards are accepted.
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From: GAGE Number: 944
To: ALL Date: 08/15/93 2:35p
Subj: Monkey Island Refer: NONE
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Can someone tell me what the requirments are for Monkey Island on CD? Will
it run on a 286 ok?
thanks
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From: VINCE SORENSEN Number: 945
To: STEVE GERWECK Date: 08/14/93 9:29p
Subj: BEST CDROM PRICES!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> -=> Quoting Doug Carpenter to All <=-
-> DC> * Busty Babes......29.95
-> Can you match Mike Shannon's offer of $29 PPD??
I can beat it hands down. Give me a call at 306-789-4654...
Vince
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From: ARNIE GROSS Number: 946
To: BOB HALL Date: 08/15/93 11:03a
Subj: Re: CD-ROMS (1 EACH) FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
Bob -
BH> You have been around the CDROM echo long enough to know there
BH> is a ten line limit on ads. Thanks for your understanding...
My apologies, Bob. In the past, it had seemed that the 10-line limit
was intended for dealers only, not private individuals who are selling
or trading single copies of used discs. Although I am a reseller, the
discs I posted were from my home collection.
The newly posted rules state, very clearly:
"If you leave an ad of any type, please limit it to ten lines or less."
Would you please clarify the intention of this rule? Is it intended
primarily for dealers (who consistently get around the ten-line limit
by posting multiple posts on a regular basis? How about the individuals
who post "ads" offering to trade discs? etc, etc, etc.....
BH> ... ahead of time.
No time like the present! <g>
- Arnie :+}
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From: ARNIE GROSS Number: 947
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/15/93 11:23a
Subj: Re: Panasonic CD-ROM drive. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Rowan -
RE> download from Creative Pacific BBS (02) 906-8392 the file
RE> CDR562.ZIP (all the necessary CD-ROM drivers and software)
Does this include an OS/2 driver?
- Arnie :+}
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From: SID LEE Number: 948
To: ALL Date: 08/15/93 10:54a
Subj: It Works! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Some of you who kindly sent me suggestions when I posted a
message a while ago about problems that I was having with a
loaner Toshiba 3401 and Adaptec controller may be interested to
hear that my kind friend/dealer gave it back to me for another
go this weekend and it works great this time! After our last
fiasco he took it away mystified, and sometime later had the
problem reoccur for him at a client site. The problem turned out
to be the terminators on the internal SCSI port not being quite
right in the way they were inserted. He found if he took them
out and reseated them the problem went away ;-) We actually
tried to do that when I had it the first time near the end of
our debugging session but he managed to break one of the
terminators (they are very snug and located tightly against the
base of the internal SCSI connector which is why I didn't try it
myself before he came over that time) while removing it so we
were unable to continue at the time.
Thanks again for your suggestions and interest! It works great
and I like it!
-- Regards --
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From: SHAUN RADER Number: 949
To: DONALD WEN Date: 08/15/93 2:21p
Subj: Re: 7th guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
<<***** DONALD WEN wrote this on 08-13─93 {May be edited} *****>>
->Hmm. Doesn't the patch fix T7G_124.EXE (or T7G-FIX.ZIP zipped) adds S
->compatibility? Second, I have a Compaq Deskpro 4/33i with QVision vid
->controller and 512K VRAM (upgradeable to I meg) built onto the
->motherboard, and got 100% video test. BTW, QVision is fast under DOS
->and Windows. Adds VESA driver and the game runs fine.
->
->DONALD WEN
Well, T7G_124.EXE does give support for S3, but the text files says that
it only gives support in MCGA mode. If you have compared The 7th Guest
in MCGA and SVGA modes.. you'll NEVER want to go back to MCGA. I called
long distance to get that fix (although it was in the same state) and
was a little disappointed. But, at least it fixed the Sound Blaster
problem I was having.
You got 100% with 512K VRAM? I guess that QVision IS good under DOS
(don't know about Windows). I have a 1 MEG VRAM and I got 2% :(
Oh well, it's not THAT slow, but I wouldn't mind getting 100% on the
test.
-Shaun Rader-
-Madman@Liberty.Com-
08/15/93 12:30
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From: SHAUN RADER Number: 950
To: DIANE PENCIL Date: 08/15/93 2:21p
Subj: 7th guest Refer: NONE
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<<***** DIANE PENCIL wrote this on 08-14─93 {May be edited} *****>>
->Gee, I'm running it on S3 video with no problem at all. Orchid Farenhe
->1280.
What did you get on the video test during the installation? I got 2%
with my Diamond Stealth 24! Pretty sad huh?
-Shaun Rader-
-Madman@Liberty.Com-
08/15/93 13:34
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From: JIM HILGEFORD Number: 951
To: JACK O'NEILL Date: 08/15/93 11:06a
Subj: Re: SBPRO DRIVER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On (11 Aug 93) JACK O'NEILL wrote to JIM HILGEFORD...
JO> JH> July 12, 93
JO> JH> The newest is a File SBCD2.Add. Also needed is OS2CDR.
JO> JH> This is smoother and when installing read Doc close.
JO> JH> Worked on my system and a friends.
JO> JH> You can remove all other Add files in os/2.
JO>
JO> Have you been able to control the volume of audio CD's with this?
JO> I've gone back to SBPCD2.SYS and SBPMixer in order to be able to hear
JO> them.
JO>
JO> Thanks.
JO>
JO> * KWQ/2 1.2a * I can't decide between EDLIN and Word for Windows.
JO> ................................
JO>
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JO> 170/400
JO> 290/627
The Volume Control is not very smooth. But it was not any better
with SBPCD2.SYS.
I goofed up and loaded some bad Video drivers, had to reload
OS2.
Now when using the cdrom I must open a dos program to get
sound out of External speakers. Can not figure what is different
this time around.
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 952
To: ANTON SWART Date: 08/15/93 1:45a
Subj: Re: Red hot lot... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Hiya
>> ok..
>> Iam here in south africa and i wanna but some of your cd-rom
>> disk.. is your red hot specials still valid?
YES.....
>> So...
>> i would like: Night Owl 9.0 and Kings Quest 6
Kings Quest 7 is not out and available !!
>> and maybe either: Pier2 or 5 star premium. Which
>> is better bout the last two. OR some GOOD shareware games
>> REAL GOOD ones!!!
Pier2 is a little better as it offers newer files. As for shareware
games, there is a cd called "Gameware" which offers over 10,000 games
and it is bbs ready.
>> ok thanx.
>> Can u send me an order form or sumething ? thru echo? and its
>> alright 2 pay with mastercard right?
If you have access to a FAX, you can fax an order to the following
number - 216-225-6759. We also accept Visa/MasterCard and do not
charge any surcharge for their us.
>> thanx.
>> really interested!
>> cheers
>> anton
Hope this helps, if not drop us a note via the node/net number below
and we'll be happy to help you that way as well.
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... Pioneering Off-line Mail Technology!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 953
To: TIM MORAN Date: 08/15/93 1:45a
Subj: Re: RED HOT SUMMER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> In a message to Tim Moran <08-03-93 01:46> Boris Osadciw wrote:
BO>> PID: SX V3.02/4.01H1G01
BO>> >> Do you have OS/2 2.1 on CD?
BO>>
BO>> On it's way in here !!!
>> Do you have a price idea?
Should be around $79.00 with the upgrade offer !!
Interested, give us a call and we'll try to help you further.
Boris Osadciw
... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 954
To: MICHAEL MULCAHY Date: 08/16/93 12:11a
Subj: Re: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Any Mac compatable Encyclopedia ROMs? If so, what's your asking price?
>>
>> BO> Groilers makes a Mac version of thier Encycopedia. As
>> for the price, BO> it's a little more, why I don't know, but
>> the best we could do would BO> be $60.
>> BO>
>> BO> Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and
>> we'll be happy BO> to help you further.
>> BO>
>> Boris is this Grolier MAC Version their latest and greatest?
>> Ifso I am interested..m2
Yes it is ! Your welcome to call us at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll
be happy to assist you further.
Boris Osadciw
... Happy as a Pig in Mud!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 955
To: TARQUINN WATSON Date: 08/16/93 12:57a
Subj: Re: Cd Changers. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> I have all the details of the German NSM 100 cd-rom changer.
>> What price do you sell them at?
The price is $6500. complete with interface and all...plug and play.
Hope this helps...
Boris Osadciw
... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 956
To: ALL Date: 08/16/93 12:57a
Subj: NEW BUSTY BABES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
))))))) BRAND NEW RELEASE "BUSTY BABES III" (((((((((
NOW IN STOCK BUSTY BABES III ..... The best adult disc,
period. Featuring thousands of sizzling pictures of the
bustiest babes in North America including Canadian gals
who bare all! Also includes the SUPER new generation image
viewer/manager SHOWOFF, and it's BBS Ready.
PRICE - $25.00
To ORDER, call 800-243-0517 Tech/Questions 216-225-3263
)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))((((((((((((((((((((((((((
Boris Osadciw
... Press F1 to Reboot
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 957
To: ALL Date: 08/16/93 12:57a
Subj: RED HOT CD'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
$$$$$$$ R E D H O T C D' S A T R E D H O T P R I C E S $$$$$$$
ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 - PRICE - $25.00ec
ALL NEW - SHAREWARE VAULT 2 - CD POWERBOX/WINBOX PRICE - $15.00ec
ALL NEW - HOT PIX 5 - DIGITAL DREAMS - SWIMWARE 93 PRICE - $25.00ec
ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM PRICE - $35.00ec
MORE SPECIALS - AMATURE MODELS - GAME/SOUNDWARE PRICE - $25.00ec
PRO PHONE(BUS) $20. WORLD TRAVELER $10. JOKES/PRANKS OR 1001 UTIL $10.
KINGS QUEST VI $49. TOOLWORKS ENCYC - DOS/WIN $50.COMPTIONS ENCYC $60.
COMING SOON - BLACK BOX 5 - - - 24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK
CALL 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) OR 216-225-3263 FOR ADDITIONAL INFO
Boris Osadciw
... "640K ought to be enough for anybody." - Bill Gates, 1981
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 958
To: ALL Date: 08/16/93 12:57a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
*************** C D - R O M D R I V E P R I C E S ***************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit - $359.00 Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00
Texel Int 340ms Bare Dr - $245.00 LIMITED Texel Ext 340ms Kit - $359.00
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00 Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
Texel Int Complete Kit - $469.00 Texel Ext Complete - $569.00
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare - $449.00 Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$549.00
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit - $195.00 NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $799.00 Pioneer DMR604X Bare -$1199.
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50. ChestNuts CD's ALL $10.00ec
ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
... Protected Mode Xpress! It's hot!
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From: LUCIANO MUNHOZ Number: 959
To: ALL Date: 08/11/93 8:14p
Subj: Mitsumi Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Could anybody, please, give me some techinical specifications about Mitsumi
CD-ROM drives?
Regards,
Luciano Munhoz
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From: TOM GUELKER Number: 960
To: DAVID CALVIN Date: 08/15/93 7:21a
Subj: Cd-rom Help! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DC> TG>Why not take a listen to your audio CD's on your computer? Hook it up
DC> TG>to a decent sound card, and use MCS Stereo as the software interface,
DC> TG>and you'll be throwing your audio CD player out the window fast! I'm
DC> TG>hooked!
DC> TG>Tom
DC> I am impressed with the audio quality of the CD-ROM, and if I hadn't had
DC> an audio CD player before I got the CD-ROM drive, I would never have
DC> gotten an audio CD player. But, now I have both, so I can use one for
DC> each. Since you seem pretty into this, what's good software to use, MCS
DC> Stereo? Is that shareware? Right now I'm using CD Audio for Windows
DC> (CDAD125A.ZIP), obviously shareware. It has a nice catalog feature,
DC> random play, fit to tape and everything, but for some reason it has
DC> errors when switching disks, it won't take a new one unless I quit the
DC> program and load it again. Kind of annoying, but good enough for now.
MCS Stereo is a commercial program, and is well worth the cost. You
might be able to find it locally. I recommend it over anything I've
seen. It needs Windows, so hopefully you have that. It beats anything
I've seen hands down!
Tom
* OLX 2.2 * 1900 cps! Captain, she won't take much more!
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From: TOM GUELKER Number: 961
To: NIGEL ZETT Date: 08/15/93 7:46a
Subj: Mitsumi on a chain Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NZ> Hello all: I am interested in the Mitsumi CD-ROM, and what would be involv
NZ> with hooking up multiple units. Can I chain more than one drive off the sa
NZ> interface or do I need to install a separate interface for each unit? Also
NZ> do I have to install a separate driver and/or MSCDEX for each?
Each Mitsumi requires its own interface card.
You only install the driver once...
Tom
* OLX 2.2 * The Garage BBS (618)344-8466 USR 16.8K 2 gigabytes
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From: TOM GUELKER Number: 962
To: MARK WOMACK Date: 08/15/93 7:47a
Subj: Mistumi/Sb/Sbpro Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MW> But while I was looking at the SBPro board, I noticed a plug that
MW> was identified as PC SPEAKER. Does anyone know anything about
MW> this? The manual has no explanation of what it's for. It's 2
MW> prongs and my speaker wire won't match it because it's 4 prongs.
MW> I wonder what output goes to the speaker - the sound output? And
MW> would that mean that I would miss the beeps the motherboard sends
MW> the speaker occasionally?
You disconnect the plug from the speaker and connect it to the SBPro.
Then all sounds that normally come from the cheesy speaker come from the
SBPro
* OLX 2.2 * The Garage BBS (618)344-8466 USR 16.8K 2 gigabytes
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From: DON KULHA Number: 963
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 08/15/93 4:20p
Subj: CADDY-O-RAMA Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Note. All of the high end high-performance drives
> intended for commercial
>or heavy-duty service use caddys.
BF> Not any more - Panasonic's recent offerings include
BF> double-speed drives that
BF> are caddyless.
I stand by my statement. The Panasonics don't fit into the serious use
catagory. They are for casual use by consumers and not for commercial or heavy
duty service. There still are no caddyless drives in that catagory.
>I wouldn't consider using a caddyless for my BBS
BF> I refuse to put up with those caddy-type single-disc monstrosities. I can
BF> BARELY tolerate caddies on multi-disc changers, as
So be it, but I run 7 cd's 24 hrs a day 7 days a week and wouldn't consider a
caddyless drive for my application.
DCK
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From: DONALD WEN Number: 964
To: JURRIE HOBERS Date: 08/15/93 3:41p
Subj: Re: te koop diverse cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Jurrie Hobers wrote,
JH> Hallo allemaal!
JH> Ik heb nog diverse cd-roms te koop:
JH> - Creative sounds - vol met sounds in VOC, WAV MID formaat Fl.
JH> 50,-- - Playing with language, voor kinderen, ENGELS leren MPC
JH> Fl. 25,-- - COREL Artshow, vol met CLipart voor Corel Draw
JH> Fl. 50,-- - Phoenix 2.0 Shareware cd-rom
JH> Fl. 45,-- - Night Owls 9.0 shareware cd-rom
JH> Fl. 100,-- - MM Mammals cd over zoogdieren MPC
JH> Fl. 85,-- - Woordenboek in div. talen
JH> (Hebreeuws, Grieks, Japans etc.) Fl.
JH> 50,-- - Kings Quest V op cdrom
JH> T.e.a.b. - Klotski, Windows spel gebaseerd op een Pools spel
JH> Fl. 50,-- - Mixed up mother goose MPC spel
JH> Fl. 35,-- - MPC Wizard, MPC cd rom
JH> Fl. 10,-- - Mega demo 1, honderden mb's shareware, mods en
JH> gifs!! Fl. 35,-- - XXX-rated cdrom met TGA/GIF/GL/DL/FLI
JH> etc.. Fl. 65,-- - Shareware Overload
JH> Fl. 50,--
JH> Voor eventuele ruilen van cd's houd ik me ook aanbevolen!
JH> Brand maar los, reacties via dit medium graag!
JH> GreetinX!
JH> Jurrie!
Please, write in English. I caught this message here in San Francisco,
Calif. USA, and so will thousands of English-only speakers around. By the
way, are you Finnish?
DONALD WEN
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 965
To: POE LIM Date: 08/14/93 1:39p
Subj: Pas16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Poe!
On 08-13-93 Poe Lim wrote to Rowan Evans...
PL> On Aug 10 19:15 in a msg to Poe Lim, Rowan Evans of 3:711/413 wrote:
PL>
PL> > Yeah, well, I'd like the Wave Blaster add-on for Wave Table
PL> > synthesis....
PL>
PL> This is supposedly integrated in the chip itself; was
PL> speaking with a dealer (we exchange info on products) and
PL> he mentioned Computamart did mention something along that
PL> line, so......
NOT in the SB 16 ASP... It only uses FM synthesis as far as I can decipher
the doco!
PL> > at work has said that he's seen ads with it as low as $A80.00 (but
PL> > he couldn't remember where!)... At that price, I'd buy it, even
PL> > though I,m not really an adventure/puzzle freak!
PL>
PL> Yeah, there's a mob in Melbourne doing it for $85; was
PL> tempted, so ordered it. only hitch is they insist on
PL> courier, at $15! But doesn't look as if they have constant
PL> supply, as it's taking quite some time.
Well, I'd tell them to stuff it... I can get stuff from WA using Australia
Post Overnight Express (order it 5:30pm NSW Time one day, in hand 10:00am
the next day) for $9.00....
PL> Re: looking at 7th
PL> Guest at work; now I know why banks are so inefficient. :)
Only at lunchtimes! But the way things like T7G are put together has given
some of our training people some heavy food for thought for computer
based training.....
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 966
To: RON FINDLING Date: 08/14/93 1:45p
Subj: New Mpc Specs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Ron!
On 08-11-93 Ron Findling wrote to Rowan Evans...
RF> > This spec and the possible new games/applications written
RF> > for MPC L2 will put a lot of pressure on users to "go the extra"....
RF>
RF> I wonder when they'll get around to establishing a spec for the
RF> operating system proper multimedia should run under?
Good question.... But maybe they're waiting to see what dominates the
marketplace and then tout that as the "standard" like has happened
with other things! <g>
RF> I bring this up because the recent issue of BYTE compared the
RF> multimedia support for Windows to OS/2 and found the former a
RF> comparative kludge, difficult to program in and not very powerful.
I take it you run OS/2?? I have programmed both for OS/2 and Windows,
and don't find either to be excruciatingly easy to program for....
RF> One would think that NT would improve greatly on this, but
RF> apparently it'll have the same multimedia stuff regular Windows
RF> has - no improvement...
Yep, you're right there... But you also have the pain of having to bug
your dealer/distributor/card mfr for Windows drivers, as the basic NT
only has PAS 16 and SoundBlaster (from what I recall) and true SCSI
HA attached CD-ROMS (ie no driver for the PAS 16 SCSI)...
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ASHLEY STRAHLE Number: 967
To: ALL Date: 08/14/93 11:48a
Subj: Guinness Disc of Records Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello all,
I have a problem concerning the Compton's 1992 Guinness Disc of
Records (DOS version). The problem is that when it displays a picture, it is
only in 16 color mode. There are two directories that exist on the disc which
contain the pictures. These are GIF4, and GIF8. The two directories have the
same pictures as each other, but GIF4 has the 16 color picture versions, and
GIF8 had the 256 color versions. How do I set up the program to display the 256
color pictures???
No guess solutions please.
Ashley Strahle.
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From: LAURIE BATT Number: 968
To: JOSE GIMENEZ Date: 08/14/93 9:44a
Subj: Re: Night Owls V9 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a msg on <Aug 10 >, Jose Gimenez of 1:229/125 writes:
>> I have Night Owls 9 for $60 AUST
>> can be sent +COD/Post
JG>
JG> Yes... I'm interesting on your CD... Night Owls...9...
JG> Can you send me one.!!
JG>
JG> My english is very bad!! Can you respond me by NEtmail on
JG> 2:340/3.2 ??
Netmail was sent 2 days ago.
Pls note I now have a new FidoNet number 3:640/532
Laurie
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From: DAVID EWERS Number: 969
To: JIM WELLS Date: 08/12/93 5:27p
Subj: Re: computer disks Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Jim Wells to All <=-
JW> CHAMELEON BBS has a limited quantity of 5.25" DS:HD Disks with
JW> sleeves available. These are NEW disks with a lifetime Guarantee from a
JW> 3rd party distributor.
>----------------------------------------------------------
JW> 5.25" High density disks, .28 cents, quantity is limited.
>----------------------------------------------------------
JW> Include shipping of $2.90 for any amount up to 100 disks.
JW> Each addition 25 disks add 25 cents.
JW> Reply this echo or via Netmail at 1:2613/261@fidonet.org
Hi Jim,
I'd like 100 disks. How do we do the deal? Address? Phone?
Dave
... David L Ewers, 519 17th Ave. No., Clinton, Ia. 52732, (319) 243-5227,
-=- Blue Wave/QWK v2.10
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From: DON HANCOCK Number: 970
To: ARNIE GROSS Date: 08/14/93 2:58p
Subj: Re: CD-ROMS (1 each) for sale Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
-=> Quoting Arnie Gross to All <=-
AG> CD-ROMS for sale - $18.00 each (incl. shipping)
AG> FontMaster CD Library - High quality fonts (NOT shareware), complete
AG> with utilities. Includes Avant Garde,
Are these TT fonts? ATM? both? Actually I'm only interested in TT, but $18
isn't too bad.
Don Hancock (503) 771-6057
PS: you left none of your own info...
... If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried.
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From: CHRISTIAN KADERUD Number: 971
To: TOM MILLER Date: 08/15/93 11:09a
Subj: Re: Wing Commander Ii Deluxe Editon Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> I've used Wing Commander II with my Mitsumi with no
> problem. I dids have problems such as you described when I
> was using Dr-Dos and/or Superstor disk compression.
Well, I ain't using any disk compression. But, I figured out the problem after
all, it was QEMM 7.xx that screwed things up, so now I'm back to 6.xx
/Chris
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From: ROY COCHRUN Number: 972
To: EDWARD PALMER Date: 08/15/93 5:53p
Subj: Re: Duplicate messages Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
You> a plague of old messages reappearing
...
As it happens, they showed up on the board I call, too. I'm glad they
did, because a couple messages I missed were there. -- regards, Roy
Cochrun
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 973
To: DAVID TAM Date: 08/14/93 1:53p
Subj: CD-Rom's? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DT>I overheard someone around our local area talking about setting up a
>"killer" BBS.... he said that he would have a 6-disc multi-changer
>CD-ROM.... do they actually have these out? I guess I must be REALLY
>new to CD-ROMs....
Yes, Pioneer has two models. The 600 CD changer with a transfer rate of
150 kb/sec and access time of 800 ms. The newer 604X has a transfer
rate of 600 kb/sec and access time of around 350 ms. I run the 604X on
my BBS. The 600 costs around $850 and the 604X costs around $1250. You
need to run them with a good CD-Rom door like EZ-Rom or SF-Rom for
Spitfire. It will give someone a busy signal if someone else is already
accessing a disc. It copies the file to be downloaded to hard drive in
order to free up the drive. It will give you close to 4 gigabytes
instantly! <G>
Jim...
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 974
To: JOHN STEPHENSON Date: 08/14/93 1:57p
Subj: Night Owl 9 ? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JS>Has anyone got NO9 ?
JS>Is it a vast upgrade to NO8 ?
Night Owl 9 has less than 1% duplication of Night Owl 8. It is a nice
disc. If you are interested in a catalog, give us a call or log on our
BBS and download catalog.zip for the price list with descriptions.
If you log on, you can also preview Night Owl 9 from my CD-Rom door.
You can download file lists from most popular shareware CD-Roms also.
Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales! Jim...
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card & COD Orders
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 975
To: PRODUCERS Date: 08/14/93 2:34p
Subj: Christian Shareware Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am a CD-Rom retailer (Computer Works), and I have been approached MANY
times recently by sysops who run Christian BBSes. They are looking for
a Christian shareware CD-Rom that is BBS ready. With all the other
special interest topics, I think we could do something for them as well.
What do you think?
Computer Works Jim...
CD-Rom Sales!
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS
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From: KEN POIRIER Number: 976
To: ALL Date: 08/14/93 9:20a
Subj: 7th guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I was looking at the reviews for the 7th guest and It seem alot like a castle
of doctor brian type game. It just puzzles or is there any kind of object
minipulation? and of course, Is it worth the $70?
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From: RUSSELL BOYCE Number: 977
To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Date: 08/15/93 9:18a
Subj: Walnut Creek Releases Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Also CICA Windows will be updated next week. We do carry
> entire line of Walnut
> Creek.
I have heard they are to release a CP/M CD-ROM. Could you let us know when it
is available so those of us wanting to support CP/M users can purchase it.
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From: JANUSZ SUROWKA Number: 978
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 08/14/93 12:50p
Subj: CD SPEEDWAY Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
isn't it 100ms=1 sec.
??? correct me if i'm wrong, but the next time you look at a stop watch,
obsereve carefully
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From: JANUSZ SUROWKA Number: 979
To: DANNY TONG Date: 08/14/93 12:53p
Subj: Pas16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
thats's why you go fer the sound blaster 16 ASP, true 16-bit stereo
sound(CD-quality), Adavaced Signal Processing, sound blasters Creative ADPCM
and CCIT A, U Law Data COmpression and Decompression. Think about do you get
all of this in PAS???
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From: NITIN GUPTA Number: 980
To: POE LIM Date: 08/15/93 12:11a
Subj: Pas16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I saw the Pas16 packed with a double speed cd-rom drive for $400. Is
this about the price you saw it for?
Oh yeah, about the 7th Guest, grafix A+ if you have a powerful systm, as
a game D. Lots of people have had problems with the game working right
to.
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From: DIANNE WHITTINGHAM Number: 981
To: PERRY STEPHENS Date: 08/16/93 11:04a
Subj: FILE LOCATION AND NAME Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Perry,
I am looking for a Window Utility file, VBRUN200.DLL. Could you
tell me if you have this file and what the zip file name is. I would
apapreciate it. Thanks in advance.
Dianne
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From: CHRIS JOHNSON Number: 982
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 08/16/93 5:28a
Subj: DMA Method Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BJ> I have the Sony 7205 drive (came with Laser Lib.) and have been using it
BJ> in "polling" mode since day one. Would like to see if DMA would help
^^^
BJ> performance, but can't find anything in the docs about it. Anyone know
BJ> how to do this - e.g. is it a MSCDEX option or a driver param??
^^^^^^
I think you have your self confused. DMA refers to your sound card
and MSCDEX is the CD Rom program drivers... I may be wrong about
the DMA but I don't think so..
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From: CHRIS JOHNSON Number: 983
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 08/16/93 5:33a
Subj: DOS 6.0 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> LM> Ok, then try adding DBLSPACE to your DOS 5. Secondly, after -> LM> DOS
boots, hit the F5 key and see if DOS 5 will cancel the -> LM> CONFIG.SYS and
AUTOEXEC.BAT. Finally, reboot and try -> LM> DOS 5. For those of us with
complex configurations and -> LM> personally do not use DBLSPACE on my system,
simply because ->
-> You Gotta be Kidding Right ?
->
-> What will Memmanager do Its Lame I run Qemm. I have a great util for ->
Config and Auto How needs Dos 6 Large files that don't really do shit ->
system. It should have been called Dos 5.1/2 And the best thing you ->
mentioned is that you don't use Double space Very good.. ->
-> When they come out with a real upgrage Ill switch
-> just another opinon HU ?
HP> AHHHHH! I finally found somebody with a brain in his head! Did you read
HP> the reviews in PC/Computing about DOS6? THEY also said it dhould be
HP> DOS5.5! I agree! They also said something about there being a 16 or
HP> 32bit version of DOS coming out soon!
^^^^^
In about a year - year and a half It will multi task .. like OS/2
HP> Dos6 is just another cheap shot at Digital Research! (they changed the
HP> name, I forget what it is)
HP> They put in Doulespace 'cause DR DOS6 has SuperStor, and those other
HP> 'neat' <yeah,right!> features to try to make a reason to charge $50 for
HP> the piece of ____!
HP> I have DOS5, a Mitsumi CD-ROM with BOTH drivers loaded high. I have
HP> thought about QEMM, but NOT even considered DOS6, not with those dumb
HP> features. I have yet to see the 'ultimate' DOS!
HP> I have been looking into OS/2 though. It is a system resource hog too!
HP> Chow,
HP> Henry
HP> * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377
HP> --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0051]
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From: CHRIS JOHNSON Number: 984
To: ROEL SARCENO Date: 08/16/93 5:38a
Subj: A new Idea ! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RS> Hi All,
RS> Here's an idea. What about if all or several CD ROM distributors
RS> will send a file (price list) to a certain node. For this example
RS> we will assume a node address of 1:9999/9999. Node 1:999/9999 will
RS> process the file and update a data base that contains the 5 or so
RS> lowest prices. Once this is all set then all of us can send an
RS> echomail to node 1:9999/9999 (Address to CDSERVER) and the text
RS> message will be the name of the cd rom. When node 1:9999/9999
RS> receives a mail and the to field is address to (CDSERVER) then,
RS> it will read the text and search the database. A response will
RS> be made by node 1:9999/9999 via echomail that contains the info of
RS> the 5 dealers that has the lowest price and the date the
RS> price was inputted in the data base.
RS> If this is already available I would like to know how to get my hands
RS> on it. Otherwise if you're willing to accept the responsibility of
RS> node 1:9999/9999 (must have big disk space), I will volunteer to write
RS> a program that will maintained the data base, automatically input the
RS> price list and generate a response in a file format. We would need
RS> somebody to import and export the file to echomail which I'm not
RS> familiar with. If interested to be node 1:9999/9999, we can always
RS> add the phrase to the echomail that node 1:9999/9999 doesn't guarantee
RS> any information and so on to. Anything to avoide legal actions
RS> Node 1:9999/9999 should also verify the dealer prior to accepting
RS> price list. Node 1:9999/9999 will also moderate and send a request
RS> to add this area.
RS> I would like to limit this to CDROM only to keep the data base as small
RS> as possible. Data Base will be encripted. I can provide a program to
RS> the dealers to encript the price list just to minimize any future
RS> problems.
RS> If you are a CD Rom Dealer, how do you feel about uploading your price
RS> list at least a month or so. I can also make this program to response
RS> and let you know if your prices are low enough to be on the data base.
RS> We can also setup an option for a comment like...."Guarantee PRICE until
RS> xx/xx/xx." or "SHIPMENT / INSURANCE included". Just imagine cutting
RS> down your expense on the mailing list.
RS> Just imagine the advantage of this option. You will be able to find
RS> lowest price without reading the thousands or echomail. Dealers can
RS> compare there price, etc. Well hope you guys and gals got the idea.
RS> Please response. Thank's
RS> Roel
Give me some more info on node 1:9999/9999
I may be interestd.
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 985
To: ARNIE GROSS Date: 08/17/93 7:27a
Subj: Re: General Midi Cdroms Refer: 3409
Read: NO Private: No
-> I have not yet seen a full file list for SHAREWARE STUDIO III (I
-> have a copy on order, but have not yet received it) but it should con
-> a good bit of what you're looking for. I have been very satisfied wi
-> the previous two discs in the series, and eighteen of my own G/M file
-> have been included on the third volume.
->
-> The Shareware Studio series is published by
->
-> DATA EXPRESS, INC.
-> 6799 Windfaire Drive
-> Norcross, GA 30093
->
-> (404) 621-9210
Hey Arnie..
Studio III should begin distribution in 2-3 weeks. The printed material
shipped to the factory yesterday and as soon as one licensing
arrangement is resolved, we'll begin manufacturing...
In addition to your MIDI files, there will be other original
material on the disc... The Atlanta Chamber of Commerce has provided
some graphics for us to use. There will also be alot of original
animations - animations that I filmed and created (this past weekend I
ventured up to Berry College & got some great footage of whitetail deer,
geese, swans, squirrels, yaks, gaks, and gnus - footage via video
equipment that can zoom up to 35 power <g>)... Life in the fast lane.
tim
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 986
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 08/17/93 7:36a
Subj: Re: CANADIAN SOURCE Refer: 3410
Read: NO Private: No
-> Are you by any chance related to the "Michella" in Busty Babes? Just
-> curious - same last name - both in Canada.
Vince is Michellea's husband... Some guys have it all, huh?
tim
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From: JAN MARTEN ERIC ELZINGA Number: 987
To: MIKAEL WINTERKVIST Date: 08/13/93 11:17a
Subj: UNIX Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Mikael!
10 Jul 93 14:41, Mikael Winterkvist wrote to All:
MW> descriptions to be either files.bbs or 00_index.txt and NOT the type where
If you find one of the other formats, would you please send me one of them? I'm
writing a little converter to make proper File.BBS lists (one without a date
and size). Thanx!
MW> regards,
MW> Mikael
Bye,
Johan
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From: JOHN KORTINK Number: 988
To: JOHN SERRANO Date: 08/13/93 8:16p
Subj: Loom on CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> You see, I've made it as far as the foundry-I'm in it,
> but since the person with whom I've exchanged identies died
> (meaning I no longer look like him), I'm basically stuck inside,
> listening to the conversation between the foreman and the
> Bishop, as well as the incessant pounding by Edgewise:)
Solution : 'twist' the sword that Edgewise is pounding on !
I can also recommend Loom. Monkey Island is good too (and lasted a bit longer
with me). I recently bought 'Day of the tentacle', a cartoon-like game which is
very nice too (seems to be quite big graphics- and plot-wise). All these games
are from LucasArts. Makes you think ...
Does anybody know if 7th Guest will run without a sound card ? I rather hate
having to buy hardware to be able to run software. Why the hell is it that
games on CD don't use CD quality audio when it's available ??? Lazy bums them
people at games software companies ... :-( Loom uses it to *great* effect
(though sound sometimes stutters badly in spite of 330k/sec on my Toshiba
3401).
John Kortink
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From: SAMSON LUK Number: 989
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 08/13/93 3:45p
Subj: BBS Door for CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> If you use door.sys as a drop file, then EZROM is the best! It allows
> file tagging, searching several discs at once, even if they are offline,
> multi-disc changers, various security levels, etc. You can download
> EZROM120.ZIP from Computer Works at (205) 671-0092 14.4k.
Maximus can create DOOR.SYS and YES, I am currently using EZ-ROM v1.2. However,
as I mentioned in my previous message, the problem is EZ-ROM doesn't support
Maximus's LASTUSER.BBS - i.e. EZ-ROM will not update LASTUSER.BBS to refect
user's downloaded KB within the DOOR session. Maximus will only able to
re-read LASTUSER.BBS upon user return to BBS but NOT the file created by EZ-ROM
which only useable for WildCat(?) or whatever BBS... in that case users can
have UNLIMITED download KB if they re-enter the door multiple times.
Regards
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From: SAMSON LUK Number: 990
To: JOS CHRISPIJN Date: 08/13/93 3:49p
Subj: BBS Door for CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> CDDOOR of Ron Huiskes; one .CTL supports four CD-drives on-line...
> Not f'requestable unless you pay for it : U$ 15 or so...
> The whole door is pure DOS (so use DOS exit) and is network sensitive !
I don't mind to pay US$15 but what I want to know is that will it support
Maximus directly? - i.e. will it able to update LASTUSER.BBS file which re-read
by Maximus upon user return from the door?
Regards
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 991
To: MARK WOMACK Date: 08/15/93 9:15a
Subj: Mistumi/Sb/Sbpro Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I hooked up my Mitsumi's sound output to my SBPro the other night
-> and it works great. Instead of messing with the pins, I just
-> took the sound in through the SBPro's line input and turned the
-> mixer on with a line in my autoexec file! It works perfectly.
-> But while I was looking at the SBPro board, I noticed a plug that
-> was identified as PC SPEAKER. Does anyone know anything about
-> this? The manual has no explanation of what it's for. It's 2
-> prongs and my speaker wire won't match it because it's 4 prongs.
-> I wonder what output goes to the speaker - the sound output? And
-> would that mean that I would miss the beeps the motherboard sends
Okay, this jack IS for the speaker wire. It sends the sound from the SB
to the internal speaker. This is ONLY if you do not have external
speakers. (it just ruins the sound when it goes through the puny thing)
As far as upgrades, I don't know.
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 992
To: ALLEN BURLESON Date: 08/15/93 9:18a
Subj: RE: WILLIE BEAMISH CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Thanks for the mini-review. Maybe that's part of the reason the comp
-> fairs have it for $18. Speaking of the price, I noticed "Space Quest
-> the same price range. You know if that's decent? Either way, I think
-> would be a good buy.
I have the software versions to BOTH games. They are terrific! The
CD-ROM ones talk. $18 is a great price! Sierra wants $30 just to upgrade
to the CD from the software!
Both games a terrificly funny, and family orientated!
Check out King's Quest 5 and 6 too!
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 993
To: DAVID TAM Date: 08/15/93 9:20a
Subj: CD-Rom's? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I overheard someone around our local area talking about setting up a
-> BBS.... he said that he would have a 6-disc multi-changer CD-ROM....
-> actually have these out? I guess I must be REALLY new to CD-ROMs....
They sure do! Our public library has one set up for a magazine database.
Theirs is a Pioneer, I don't know if there are any from any other
companies yet or not.
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 994
To: DON ROBINSON Date: 08/15/93 9:39a
Subj: Space quest help... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I just bought Space Quest IV for CD-ROM, and have had quite a few
-> problems..
->
-> * First, when I'm playing, it says Space Quest XI.. ????
-> * When I try to install it, it INSISTS that I pick a voice digitizing
-> card.. I have no voice or sound card.. Does it require one? When I
-> try to run it, it says it can't find one, and plays music through t
-> speaker, but when I walk up to a guy to talk to him, it just stops
-> there.. His face moves around, and I can exit the program, but that
-> it.
Sorry, it does require a sound card with DAC.
They are relly cheap now, my ATI Stereo F/X is $95 now.
The original Soundblaster is about $85, bit it needs speakers.
Mine came with 2 speakers....
I have the software version, it really is a great game!
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From: MICHAEL BERNSTEIN Number: 995
To: DAVID TAM Date: 08/15/93 9:07a
Subj: CD-ROM'S? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DT> I overheard someone around our local area talking about setting up a
DT> "killer" BBS.... he said that he would have a 6-disc multi-changer
DT> CD-ROM.... do they actually have these out?
My local library has three CD-ROM changers for its reference computers.
Each one holds 5 CD-ROMS. These regular size CD's come in a cartridge
format that is inserted into the changer. On each cart. is a window, so
you can see which CD is being accessed (the one missing is the one
being accessed). Unlike the "turntable" CD changers you find on regular
stereo systems, these changers use a magnet to pull the CD under the laser.
It's a pretty neat system (also quite fast).
--/\/\ike B. (Internet: mbernstein@turbo.kean.edu) from NJ
... If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried.
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From: MICHAEL BERNSTEIN Number: 996
To: DON ROBINSON Date: 08/15/93 9:07a
Subj: SPACE QUEST HELP... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DR> * First, when I'm playing, it says Space Quest XI.. ????
DR> * When I try to install it, it INSISTS that I pick a voice digitizing
DR> card.. I have no voice or sound card.. Does it require one? When I
DR> try to run it, it says it can't find one, and plays music through
DR> the speaker, but when I walk up to a guy to talk to him, it just
DR> stops there.. His face moves around, and I can exit the program, but
DR> that's it.
Quite frankly, I don't see much sense in buying the CD-ROM version if you
don't have a sound card. That is the best part of the game! Anyway, click
on the controls icon. One of the buttons listed is marked speech. Press
the button so it says text. This will let you read everything that
everyone else hears (**ALL** text in this game that you read is heard by
those with a sound card). The reason that it says Space Quest XII is because
the whole humor and idea of the game is that you will be travelling through
various Space Quest adventures. Some of these adventures are in the past
(like SQ I--Ulence Flats and the great CGA vs. VGA gag) and some are way in
the future like Space Quest XII--Vohauls Revenge II (wait until you get
to Space Quest X--Latex Babes of Estros...WOW!)
Good luck and most importantly, have fun!! It's a great game. It's too bad
you won't be hearing Gary Owens (from Laugh-In) narrate the story.
--/\/\ike B. (Internet: mbernstein@turbo.kean.edu) from NJ
... Have you ever wished you could download a pizza?
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From: JURRIE HOBERS Number: 997
To: MARIO DI MAMBRO Date: 08/12/93 12:27p
Subj: Re: Mod Cd-Roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Mario Di Mambro to Jurrie Hobers <=-
JM> *Re: Re: MOD CD-ROMs
> Here in The Netherlands, Europe, we have a cd called: The Ultimate Mod
> collection with a large number of MOD files. I do not know if this cd is
> also at your place.
MDM> I might be interested in getting one of those too. I love mods and
MDM> I have a very good player for my Gravis Ultrasound card. Send me
MDM> some E-mail or something.
Hello Mario!
I am not so familiar with E-mail, I do not know if I CAN send it at all..!
But if you want further info, just ask what you want to know, so I can
answer it.....
If you want to contact me by snail-mail, then my address is;
Jurrie HObers
Calthornerbrink 43
7812 HS Emmen
Drenthe, The Netherlands
Europe
But if you want specific info on paper, then you can send me your questions
by NET and I will send it to your postal address.....
The your just have to give me your address.....
PS: I do not know if my local sysop has given me the right to NET mail
addresses out of Holland...so if you like to know more, just contact
me by Snail-mail, or just reply this message......
GreetinX!
Jurrie!
MDM> ... The OFFICIAL tagline of the 1996 Olympics!
Is that so??!!??
Then just watch mine ;-)
... What has six balls and screws you twice a week...? The lottery
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From: JURRIE HOBERS Number: 998
To: MARIO DI MAMBRO Date: 08/12/93 12:31p
Subj: Re: 240 Disk Changer Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Mario Di Mambro to Jurrie Hobers <=-
JH> When you want more info, contact me.....
JH> I have the latest info of a drive which can handle 1,000 cd's!!!!!!!!
MDM>
MDM> I don't want to sound arrogant, but the hell could use 1000 cd's.
MDM> Who could afford to buy them all, let alone use them. Only some
MDM> kind of library resource system with every magazine ever published
MDM> on it would need something like that. Certainly a BBS or private
MDM> user wouldn't need that kind of massive space. (not to mention
MDM> what it must cost!)
Hello Mario! (Hmmm, that name sounds familiar to me :-))
You are probably right about the price, but the person who asked, was
interested in juke drives, so I send him some info....
That is it....
But about hte price, it IS too expensive for private use, you are right
about that, the prices start at 60,000 !! (us$)
So keen on saving your money...:-))
GreetinX!
Jurrie!
... .....My other pc is a Pentium TM......so don't bother me...!
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From: LAURENS LINSSEN Number: 999
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/13/93 3:21p
Subj: Advice Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Dear Boris,
From all the echo mail, I concluded that for some advice concer-
ning the purchase of a cd-rom drive you are the man.
I'm considering to buy a cd-rom drive, wich I do not need for any
application.It seems fun to have one, for games and share-ware
discs.
I'm thinking of buying a mitsumi or waiting until other cd-rom
drives get cheaper.
A computer dealer in the city where I live, advertises with a
Mitsumi LU005s drive complete kit for $ 230,-. It seems not a
very high price (I know you are cheaper, but with transportation
from the US to the Netherlands and Dutch state tax it in the end
yours would be more expensive).
Some people have told me that the mitsumi will be old-fashioned
very soon (already the seventh guest recommends a "double speed
drive" and there are already drives with four times normal speed.
The shop owner here told me the double speed drive from panasonic
will be available in september or october for about $394.
So what would you recommend me? The mitsumi, the panasonic, or
maybe one of your drives.
A reply in the echo mail (I'm not a point yet), or by post will
be very much appriciated.
Laurens Linssen
Laurens Linssen
Postbus 1683
9701 BR Groningen
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From: BOB JENKINS Number: 1000
To: ALL Date: 08/16/93 2:57p
Subj: Mitsumi Question Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Being financially challenged, yet feverishly lusting over a CD-ROM to call
my own, I have noticed the name "Mitsumi" (sp?). A few questions:
1)Will this drive function with my SB 2.0 ?
2)How much will it put me out (I'm up here in the Great White North, near
Ottawa) ?
3)If I decided to purchase one via a U.S. mail order complny, has anyone
from Canada doen this, and how did things go ?
Thanks for the reply.
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From: WILDCAT! MAIL ROOM Number: 1001
To: DIANNE WHITTINGHAM Date: 08/16/93 5:41p
Subj: Return receipt Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Your message to PERRY STEPHENS, regarding: EXCESSIVE LINE NOISE
was received on 08/16/93 at 5:41p.
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From: WILDCAT! MAIL ROOM Number: 1002
To: DIANNE WHITTINGHAM Date: 08/16/93 5:41p
Subj: Return receipt Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Your message to PERRY STEPHENS, regarding: FILE LOCATION AND NAME
was received on 08/16/93 at 5:41p.
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From: DAVE REED Number: 1003
To: DIANE PENCIL Date: 08/15/93 4:22p
Subj: Nightowl 8 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Diane!
Saturday August 14 1993, Diane Pencil writes to Tom Tech:
DP> I bought a noght owl 8 software disk from you folks back in April which
DP> seem to have major problems. I called your Ashtabula phone number only to
DP> be told that you don't have any more disks on the night owl 8 variety.
DP> Your staff also told me that you would replace it with something else
DP> which (and I quote) "was exactly the same thing". Really, I just want
DP> night owl 8 to work and frankly if a disk is not night owl then it is not
DP> "exactly the same thing". I called software creation who willingly said
DP> they would replace it but I had to pay triple shipping. They said you
DP> folks should be taking care of this and next time to buy from them direct
DP> (which I wil do now). They didn't have to make your defective software
DP> good but they will. Unfortunately I get to pay an additional 15.00 on a
DP> 29.00 disk. Make me feel warm inside ya know? As a reseller who bought
DP> several hundered dollars worth of CD's from you folks I would have hoped
DP> for a small amount of cooperation.
If it's not too late, give me a call. I have NOPV8 in stock, and will be glad
to trade you for your "bad" copy. And I won't charge you ANY shipping. ;-)
Dave Reed
CD-ROM International
(800) 678-2374 (Orders)
(509) 754-0724 (Voice)
(509) 754-0109 (BBS/Fax)
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 1004
To: LOIS FRANKEL Date: 08/16/93 6:20p
Subj: new adult cd-rom eche Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LF> Someone suggested that a new area be created for that topic. Mak
LF> to me.
Is anyone actively working on this?
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 1005
To: JOHN STEPHENSON Date: 08/16/93 5:13a
Subj: Re: Night Owl 9 ? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 07 Aug 93 17:45:00, I heard John Stephenson shout to All:
JS> Has anyone got NO9 ?
JS>
JS> Is it a vast upgrade to NO8 ?
JS>
JS> Cheers,
JS>
JS> John Stephenson
N i g h t O w l 9 . 0
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From: TOM CZACHOR Number: 1006
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 08/16/93 9:04a
Subj: DMA METHOD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>I have the Sony 7205 drive (came with Laser Lib.) and have been using i
>in "polling" mode since day one. Would like to see if DMA would help
>performance, but can't find anything in the docs about it. Anyone know
>how to do this - e.g. is it a MSCDEX option or a driver param??
I tried it, didn't help much. I use two on my bbs, so the speed isn't
as critical. But I tried the Mammals Cd on a Sony on a 386-33 and a
Mitsumi (older one) on a 286-16 and the Mitsumi won hands down. I tried
buffers in expanded, DMA transfer, but couldn't catch up to the Mitsumi.
The sony has an 8k buffer, while the Mitsumi has a 32k.
>>tom<<
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From: BOB HALL Number: 1007
To: CHRIS BOURNE Date: 08/16/93 8:35a
Subj: CSS CD PRICE LIST Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Chris,
There is a ten limit on ads in this echo.
Thanks.
Bob Hall
Moderator.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 1008
To: BARRY MISHKIND Date: 08/16/93 8:40a
Subj: BEST CDROM PRICES!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> (Sorry Bob... it must be a bad day.)
No problem. It does get old doesn't it????
BOB
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From: BOB HALL Number: 1009
To: ALL Date: 08/16/93 8:51a
Subj: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Regarding the rules of this echo, and the topic of adult CDROM's, I can simply
say one thing. At the present time, I am not trying to be a censor, bible
thumping radical, or anything. I am not trying to limit free speech in any
fashion, or trying to control anything.
I personally feel the adult CDROM's are a new media, and to the best of my
knowledge, there are few or almost no laws guiding the discs. Someone,
somewhere, somehow, will set a precidence for the topic, most likely in a court
of law.
As moderator of this echo for 8-9 years, I don't want this echo to be a testing
ground for any legal litigation. That is the reason, not censorship, control,
or any other reason.
I would suggest any of you to leave a message to Mr. Tony Davis, and get his
opinion. He has came forth and discussed his situation in this echo, and by
doing so, I personally do not feel he would object to talking about having his
BBS confiscated, along with his adult CDROM collection.
If anyone wants to talk about adult CDROM's, sell titles, or whatever, that is
great, just don't do it in this echo. Mr. Tim Helton in the CDROM_SALE echo
still permits the topic, take it there, or better yet, SOMEONE step forth and
create an adult echo just for that topic. That way, the local and federal
authorities could find you all with just one phone call, and you could have the
chance of a life time to learn about local and federal laws.
I have no intent to offend anyone, and again, I have absolutely no intent of
censorship in my mind. It is just merely a legal precaution, to ban the topic
of adult CDROM's in this echo.
Thanks
Bob Hall
1-405-672-1708 if you want to discuss this over the phone.
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From: TRAVIS CAMPBELL Number: 1010
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 08/16/93 2:51a
Subj: Re: Cd-rom games Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I beleive I got my wing commander two for about $60.00 I have had it for quite
awhile!! I enjoyed it!!
Travis
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From: TRAVIS CAMPBELL Number: 1011
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 08/16/93 2:53a
Subj: Police Quest 4 (CD-ROM) Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Actually, I have Batman Returns, I didn't like that one very much! I also have
the hardriver version of KQ6! So whats different in the cd-rom version?
Travis
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From: DANNY Number: 1012
To: ARNIE GROSS Date: 08/16/93 5:00a
Subj: Re: Cd-rom rentals? Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
DT> The programs can be used up to 3 times before they are rendered
DT> inoperative. Users can then purchase an electronic key via an
DT> 800 number to fully unlock the software and its documentation.
AG> How can this be possible, unless we are talking about re-writeable CD's?
AG> If the program is installed to the hard drive, it should be
AG> possible to reinstall it again, to get another three uses.
I believe the press release means the installed program on the hard
disk can be used a maximum of 3 time. The electronic key technique
is like Adobe's Fonts On-Call. It's there for a fee then a key. :)
AG> Of course, it's a royal pain in the butt to do this every third
AG> time you want to run a program!
That's the idea.
AG> If these are truely fully functional programs (ie: NOT "demo" versions),
AG> then the original publishers would be losing sales.
Most normal people would actually purchase it after a 100 installs.
AG> Something doesn't sound right. Was this message you found perhaps an
AG> idea for a future disc?
No. It's real. There has been talks in several trade magazines about
giving away sampler programs on CD-ROM disk to customers. I use to work
at a store that was going to participate in this experiment. I left
before anything happened. The CD would be filled with working demos.
I just received a working demo of Lotus AMI Pro 3.0. The package
included manuals and the disks (3). It'll do everything except saving
and printing the text file. I beleive that's what the CD will have.
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From: CARLOS BENITZ Number: 1013
To: RICHARD MAYCOCK Date: 08/14/93 11:47p
Subj: Re: Best CDROM List Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RM>At this point it all looks a bit academic, I'm afraid, because yours' is
RM>the only reply I've had on the subject.
You should not be discouraged. Several people (myself included)
have been posting reviews (both favorable and unfavorable) in
this echo for many months. Instead of asking for people to send
their reviews to you for later disemination, why not just put
your own reviews in here too? I think that many people here will
agree that disc reviews are a major reason they read this echo.
But my original point was that it isn't a good idea to solicit
only good reviews. Suppose a disc really sucks. The publisher
of that disc could (and have) log on to the echo (or have a
lackey do it) and post glowing praise. Without knowing about the
15 negative responses, your readers could be duped into buying a
bad disc.
If you post reviews here, I'll read them.
* SLMR 2.1 * Give me liberty or give me death.
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From: CARLOS BENITZ Number: 1014
To: ED YEE Date: 08/16/93 9:53p
Subj: Mammals CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
EY>I've got the Mammals CD-ROM and it doesn't quite work. The requirements
I was exactly where you are, last week. I had no instructions
with my disc. I tinkered around and discovered that, if I
removed the mouse from the AUTOEXEC.BAT, MAMMALS would tell me
that no mouse had been detected and that I should type + to use
the keyboard. Now, when i want to use it, I remove the mouse
driver, reboot, and do it this way. I don't know why the mouse
driver doesn't work with MAMMALS, but that seems to be the case.
I also had a wee bit of trouble with the sound. It comes through
the headphone jack (faintly), not the soundcard/speakers.
Good luck.
* SLMR 2.1 * Don't blame the tool for the murderer's work.
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From: LUCIANO MUNHOZ Number: 1015
To: CHRIS JOHNSON Date: 08/12/93 3:04p
Subj: 7th Guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> AS> HELLLPPPP!
> AS> I just bought 7th Guest and am having problems.
> AS> I cant get through the intro.It gets a fair way into the intro
> AS> then drops out and say ERROR-02:YOu may have a DMA conflict or
> AS> are running in a virtual dos session.PLease help I can figure out what
> AS> is wrong.Tell me everything it may be .PLEASE ??
Turn off all kind of memory managers (like QEMM386, EMM386, ...).
If you have any sound board, change the DMA port.
Regards,
Luciano Munhoz
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From: JOEY RATZSCH Number: 1016
To: NEIL ALLEN Date: 08/14/93 12:32a
Subj: Re: SHERLOCK HOLMES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NA>I recently purchased Sherlock Holmes on CD and was reading
>through the DOCs and found something about a CD BOOT disk,
>can anyone tell me if it works fine with out a boot disk?
the boot disk is if you don't have enough free conventional memory avalible.
if you have 580k or more, you 'Should' be fine...
use the MEM/C command (MS-DOS) to check your free mem.
CHKDSK will also report conventioal, but MEM is much better, for it is only
twards the memory.
Joey
... Hot air sometimes thaws out a cold reception.
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From: GLEN PIWOWARCZYK Number: 1017
To: DON RIEB Date: 08/15/93 1:25a
Subj: FREE CDROM CATALOG! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DR> New CDROM catalog, F'REQ 1:115/724 for CDROMCAT.ZIP or Send me
DR> Netmail for a printed catalog. You can also call 708-657-1160
DR> or write SaveWare, P.O. Box 274, Glenview, ILL. 60025. Nention
DR> you seen this ad in the FIDONET for a great price break!
DR> ** Don Rieb **
DR> --- Renegade v07-17 Beta
DR> * Origin: FREQ or DLOAD CDROMCAT.ZIP from 708-724-2427 10Gig
DR> (1:115/724)
If you could be so kind as to have one sent out to:
Glen Piwowarczyk
7900 Slaisbury
West Bend, WI 53095
Thanks!
-Speech
GLEN PIWOWARCZYK
... Blue Wave, makes a pencil look HI-TECH!
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From: GLEN PIWOWARCZYK Number: 1018
To: ALL Date: 08/15/93 1:25a
Subj: WHAT CD-ROM? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi!
I'm looking into getting a CD-ROM for my BBS. What is the
best/fastest out there? Also, whats the bets CDs out there full
of ShareWare files?
Thanks!
-Glen
GLEN PIWOWARCZYK
... Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
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From: DON STRADER Number: 1019
To: ALL Date: 08/15/93 3:33p
Subj: CD COMPAT W/DOS 6 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm having a problem with the compatiblity of DOS 6 and my CD-ROM drive. I
recently used memmaker to free up 40K of memory when I boot the computer for
CD-ROM (I use multiple configurations), and now when I try to log on drive S
(my CD), it says "Invalid drive specification". This can be corrected by
loading up MSCDEX manually, but I hate to do it. There is a command beginning
with "LH" at the beginning of the line, which I assume has to do with MEMMAKER,
but when I get rid of it, I still have the same problem. My friend complains
of this also, and doesn't know how to get rid of it, so I'm pretty sure it's
not just my computer. HELP!
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From: ED YEE Number: 1020
To: PAUL WHITE Date: 08/15/93 10:52p
Subj: RE: Mammals CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PW> 2. Is your mouse "Microsoft compatible"?
YEAH!!!! I got it working. It turned out to be the mouse driver. It was too
old. So I downloaded this new microsoft mouse driver and it works like a
charm. Thanks for all your help.
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From: ED YEE Number: 1021
To: PAUL WHITE Date: 08/15/93 5:15p
Subj: RE: Mammals CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PW> Here are a couple of ideas:
PW> 1. Does your CD-ROM device driver support CD-AUDIO?
PW> After you click the
PW> "begin" button, a menu screen should come up and an
PW> audio track should start
PW> playing. Maybe if your drive doesn't handle audio
PW> correctly, it hangs up at
PW> this point?
PW> 2. Is your mouse "Microsoft compatible"?
PW> 3. Does the title screen appear distorted in any
PW> way? You need VGA graphics
PW> capability, I believe, and it could be that if you
PW> don't have the right video
PW> mode, the visual position of the "start" button and
PW> the mouse coordinates
PW> don't match up.
Yes, the ROM is set to play audio, and the computer does not hang.
My mouse is a Genius and yes it is microsoft compatible.
No, my screen is not distorted in any way. I can still even move the mouse
cursor. My video card is SVGA with 1MB so it does support mormal VGA. I do
have a display driver that loads up when I boot up. Maybe that's got something
to do with it.
Thanks for the reply but more insight would be appreciated if this does not
work.
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From: ED YEE Number: 1022
To: CHRIS HARRIS Date: 08/15/93 5:19p
Subj: Mscdex Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
EY>Which version should I use ? The one that came with the CD-
EY>ROM, the one in DOS, or the one in Windows ?
EY>
EY>--- Maximus 2.01wb
EY> * Origin: EXCESS BBS Calgary (403)285-7338
EY> 1.8gb (HST-DS 16.8K) (1:1
CH> If using DOS 5.0 and Windows 3.0, use DOS.... If using DOS 5.0 and
CH> windows 3.1 use windows.... If using DOS 6.0 and
CH> any windows version use
CH> DOS6.0.
Thanks, I'm using the DOS 6 version.
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From: BRAD JENSEN Number: 1023
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 08/17/93 12:59a
Subj: Caddy-o-rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BF>I refuse to put up with those caddy-type single-disc monstrosities. I
BF>can
BF>BARELY tolerate caddies on multi-disc changers, as there IS no other
BF>viable
BF>choice yet (though something similar to Denon's 100-disc audio player
BF>would be
BF>nice!)....
Look at the NSM CD Jukebox. 100 CD's, change time 5 to 10 seconds, and
you can daisy chain up to seven of them for 700 CD access. About $6000
retail.
Pioneer is coming out with a follow-on to the fanatastic 604X, that will
hold 18 CD's in 3 magazines. Supposed to be out in November with a list
about $3000.
Brad Jensen
* SLMR 2.1 * Backup not found: (A)bort (R)etry (P)anic
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From: MARTIN ALBERT Number: 1024
To: LOUIS GHINIS Date: 08/16/93 10:13p
Subj: Sound Blaster 16 Vs 16asp Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Louis Ghinis to All <=-
LG> Does anyone know the diffrence between the sound blaster 16 and
LG> 16ASP? The 16ASP has advanced signal processing? What does that mean?
On the SB16ASP there one more chip than on the SB16. This is the only
difference between the two cards. The ASP chip is a programmable chip that
software can use to do special things like voice reconition, sample mixing
(in a mod player for exemple), etc...
Shaka!
... ERROR #00: CPU TOO *TIRED* TO CONTINUE
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
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From: DAVE REDOUX Number: 1025
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/16/93 1:51p
Subj: New Purchase Suggestions Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE> As a suggestion, look for a Creative Labs
RE> Multimedia kit... gets you both
RE> CD-ROM drive and sound card (and some bundled CD-
RE> ROMS!) for a reasonable
RE> price.....
Thanks a lot for the input, I will check this out!
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From: DON RIEB Number: 1026
To: MARK THORNTON Date: 08/14/93 5:22a
Subj: Re: Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MT> If anyone has any CD catalog's would you please post a message where i can
MT> pick one up thanks......
FRE'Q 1:115/724 or Send me Netmail with your address and I will send you
the printed catalog.
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From: DON RIEB Number: 1027
To: DAVID M. WHITE Date: 08/14/93 5:46a
Subj: Re: FREE CDROM CATALOG! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 10 Aug 93 09:38:00, David M. White said the following to Don Rie
Regarding: FREE CDROM CATALOG!
DR> New CDROM catalog, F'REQ 1:115/724 for CDROMCAT.ZIP or Send
DR> printed catalog. You can also call 708-657-1160 or write
DM>
DM> I would like to receive your printed catalog-send to David M. White, 452 N.
DM> Bull Run Dr., Tucson, Az 85748--------Thanks
Dave,
It has allready been mailed out to you, you most likly recived it
before this message.
** Don **
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From: ERIC HSIAO Number: 1028
To: ALL Date: 08/16/93 9:06p
Subj: Speedcache & disc caddies Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I ordered a Toshiba XM3401B and plan on hooking it up to my PAS-16. The Cd-ROM
drive itself says it has a 256K buffer...therefore, would it benefit any if I
used a software disc cache like Norton Speedcache? I've got MCSDEX driver 3.02
- is that the latest? Also, I noticed that various stores can rip you off with
the price of caddies. I went to a local computer show and they had caddies for
$4-4.50 each, but when I went into a Software Etc or Babbages, they wanted
$10-$11 each. So, if you're shopping for caddies, be aware of prices and don't
get ripped off.
- Eric
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From: LEE NOGA Number: 1029
To: BLAINE RICHARD Date: 08/16/93 9:52a
Subj: Re: NEW CD-SOUTHERN BEAUTIES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey, would you do us a favor and abide by the rules of this echo--FYI, Bob Hall
recently announced that this echo now prohibits the discussion of adult CD's
and related adult disc's etc....
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* Origin: Queen Of Hearts BBS (904)789-6843 (1:3618/23)
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From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 1030
To: MARK WOMACK Date: 08/15/93 9:19p
Subj: Cd-rom Help! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> really do it on my own because it would be purely taking stabbs in
-> the dark. I have 4 major drivers I need to have: STACKER 48k,
-> MTMCDE.SYS, MCDEX.EXE 144K (64 BUFFERS) and PC-CACHE 1M. It can't
-> load all four
I know what you mean I had the same problem. There must be a program
somewhere in dos 6 that will help put these devices into high memory for
you automatically should be in the dos directory somewhere for the
memory manaagement program check it out i think it should reconfigure
your config.sys so those devices are in high memory properly. I checked
it out the file is called MEMMAKER run it if you don't have dos 6 your
out of luck.
Louis
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From: TERRY WOOD Number: 1031
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/14/93 7:13p
Subj: Re: MORE CD'S ON SALE! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
> VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
Right, Well my name is Terry Wood and I'm from that little forgotten country
of Australia!! I have posted a few people about getting CDRom discs from the
states but as of yet not 1 reply :-(....
What I want to know is what sort of prices you would charge for Discs that I
choose and pay by Visa Card and then have airmailed to me. Can you give me
an idea of some prices please? I am interested in Art discs (Gif discs etc)
and any Amiga/PC discs that you may have.
Thanks for your help.
Terry Wood
Sysop Rosedale BBS: +61-(0)51-992781
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From: TERRY WOOD Number: 1032
To: TERRY WOODWARD Date: 08/14/93 7:20p
Subj: Re: Cd Rom mastering... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Terry Woodward, this is Terry Wood writing a little note to you. I was
scanning the latest messages on CDRom area and stumbled across your name. I
couldnt resist writing you a note as I have always wondered if there are any
other `Terry Wood' people out there and you are the closest I have found.
Dont worry I am not mad :-)
Now back to the real mail:
I saw that you are talking about CDMastering. I am at the moment organising
to get all my Amiga discs put onto CDRom (ISO 9660) discs via a friends
Pioneer mastering unit. The only trouble I am having is getting my hands on
a 600meg SCSI so that I can copy my stuff onto it and then get it put on his
system.. I could sit there with a null modem for years to do 600meg so I
need that drive.
I have an Amiga 4000'040+10meg, 370meg HD, NEC CDR-36 CDrom (SCSI) and a bit
more hardware. All for interests sake..
Catch ya,
Terry Wood
Sysop, Rosedale BBS +61-(0)51-992781
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 1033
To: MARK WOMACK Date: 08/16/93 12:22p
Subj: Mistumi/Sb/Sbpro Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Mark!
On 08-11-93 Mark Womack wrote to All...
MW> I hooked up my Mitsumi's sound output to my SBPro the other night
MW> and it works great. Instead of messing with the pins, I just
MW> took the sound in through the SBPro's line input and turned the
MW> mixer on with a line in my autoexec file! It works perfectly.
MW> But while I was looking at the SBPro board, I noticed a plug that
MW> was identified as PC SPEAKER. Does anyone know anything about
MW> this? The manual has no explanation of what it's for. It's 2
MW> prongs and my speaker wire won't match it because it's 4 prongs.
MW> I wonder what output goes to the speaker - the sound output? And
MW> would that mean that I would miss the beeps the motherboard sends
MW> the speaker occasionally?
I'd suggest that us a PC Speaker *IN* connection... use a connection from
your m/b spkr connection to the SB Pro and you should then get all your
speaker bbeps and squeeks through the SoundBlaster!
Cheers!
o
/U\
... OFFLINE 1.52
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 1034
To: JORMA TOLONEN Date: 08/16/93 12:30p
Subj: WINDOWS NT and Soundblas Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Jorma!
On 08-12-93 Jorma Tolonen wrote to Alastair Edgington...
JT> AE> I'm in desperate need of a WINDOWS NT compatible SoundBlaster Pro
JT> AE> CD-ROM driver.
JT>
JT> You will have to find a native Windows NT driver. As of beta-release
JT> March 1993 there was no such beast available. Rumour says that
JT> Creative Labs are working on it, but so far no news.
Rumor is true! I d/l'ed the file CDNTINST.* from the local Creative
Pacific (Australian CL distributor) BBS recently and installed it on
a machine running NT.... Worked fine, but only appears to support the
new CR562B/CR563 double speed CD-ROM drives!
JT> I hear the GA version of NT has started
JT> to ship in the US, maybe it is included in that version.
Its not in the gold code that we got in Australia (I work for an MS
Alpha/Beta/Gamma site! <g>)
JT> Greetings from a cold Sweden
Greetings from a slightly warmer Australia!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 1035
To: MARK WOMACK Date: 08/16/93 12:45p
Subj: Cd-rom Help! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Mark!
On 08-12-93 Mark Womack wrote to Bruce Bowman...
MW> You're exactly right. QEMM "optimize" consistently gave me less
MW> memory when it had to deal with the CD driver. For example, it would
MW> get finished and display a message saying, "you have 98K less now than
MW> when you started." I thought my eyes were playing tricks on me!
MW> I can't really do it on my own because it would be purely taking stabs
MW> in the dark. I have 4 major drivers I need to have: STACKER 48k,
MW> MTMCDE.SYS, MCDEX.EXE 144K (64 BUFFERS) and PC-CACHE 1M. It can't
MW> load all four of these high no matter what order they're in.
MW> I just can't understand that because I have 4 Megs of ram.
MW> I guess there's a few things I don't know about memory.
MW> I always thought that you could load stuff high
MW> until you ran out of extended or expanded memory but I guess that's
MW> not true.
You've hit the nail on the head! QEMM uses the "Upper Memory Blocks"
between 640Kb & 1024Kb to "Loadhigh" device drivers, etc....
As a couple of suggestions : -
Stacker can use EMS and co-reside with QEMM if you include the
correct switch on the QEMM command line (DBF=2 from memory).
MSCDEX shouldn't need 64 buffers - I'm only running 20 here...
PC-Cache should allow you to have the necessary device type code
in UMBs and put the 1Mb cache into etended or expanded memory.
Check you doco...
BTW, I have QEMM 7.01 here and am running SBCD.SYS, MSCDEX.EXE, Norton's
SpeedCache (2Mb cache) and all the Windows for Workgroups LAN drivers
(not Stacker yet, but soon!) and still have 625Kb or so for DOS!
Cheers!
o
/U\
Hope this helps.....
MW> ... "To Serve Man" - 101 Recipes for Soylent Green.
MW> --- RAv2.00 Intermail Fastecho
MW> * Origin: The Software Cache (919)-736-0513 Goldsboro, NC
MW> (1:3660/811.0)
MW>
MW>
... OFFLINE 1.52
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From: GIL GOLDFINCH Number: 1036
To: ALL Date: 08/14/93 11:14a
Subj: CDROM DRIVER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does any body have the drivers for scsi interface for the PAS16. My NEC CDROM
didn't come with them. And I need them to play audio CDs on it. Thanks in
advance
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From: DARON HARVEY Number: 1037
To: CHRIS JOHNSON Date: 08/15/93 2:19p
Subj: C.D.Rom Purchase Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thanks for the info when setting up the unit is their any precautions to watch
out for.I was expecting to pay around $1200.00 inclusive of
C.D. titles so that does not sound to bad
thanks......
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From: DARON HARVEY Number: 1038
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/15/93 2:23p
Subj: C.D.Rom Purchase Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thanks for the info appreciated
...............................
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From: PAM TEMPLE Number: 1039
To: VINCE SORENSEN Date: 08/15/93 1:13p
Subj: CANADIAN SOURCE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Vince Sorensen wrote in a message to All:
VS> Get the latest Shareware on Night Owl 9 for only $35
VS> Canadian including all taxes... plus receive Shareware
VS> Studio I at
VS> no extra charge when you buy Night Owl and *ANY* other of
VS> our many in-stock titles.
Do you have a catalogue including prices that you could mail or post here? I am
interested because it is a Canadian Source. If you want to mail it I'll post
my address, but let me know here so I'll know you got the message, as this is a
new point address that I haven't actually received or successfully sent
anything on yet.
Cheers,
Pam
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From: TONY DAVIS Number: 1040
To: ROBERT MOORE Date: 08/14/93 5:16p
Subj: SHAREWARE CD ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TD> On July 20th, I was arrested and booked on charges of sale &
TD> possession of obscene material. My BBS & all related
TD> hardware was
TD> seized. If found guilty, I am facing up to 15 years in jail
TD> and/or up
TD> to $25,000 in fines.
>
>OK, is that because you violated some local law? Did they give you any
>warning?
No Warning.
>We are in the process of setting up an adult section on our BBS
>and I came here looking for CD ROM ads. I would like to talk to you
>further about your legal problems (hopefully in order to avoid any in my
>state!). Were you charged by Federal, State or local authorities?
Local authorities, on State charges.
Tony
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From: GREG ISOKRARI Number: 1041
To: TRAVIS CAMPBELL Date: 08/14/93 7:25p
Subj: Re: Magnavox cdd 461 cd-r Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
The newest mscdex.exe is 2.21....
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From: TONY DAVIS Number: 1042
To: ALL Date: 08/16/93 7:10p
Subj: OIE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Update on The Oklahoma Information Exchange BBS:
As most are aware, the OIE BBS was seized in a raid by Oklahoma City
Police Department on July 20th. Until formal charges were filed, all
decisions on the future of the BBS were delayed.
On Aug 13th, the Oklahoma County District Attorney's office finally filed
felony charges. They were:
2 felony counts of selling obscene CD-Roms
1 felony count of possessing obscene CD-Roms
1 felony count of trafficking obscene material by electronic means.
Of the 16 CD that were on the BBS, the 4 that were actually listed as
obscene in the felony filing were:
Busty Babes Vol 1
Storm 2
For Adults Only (FAO) 2
For Adults Only (FAO) 3
That last count is the kicker. Since the DA has decided that the BBS
itself was in violation of laws, there seems little doubt that the OIE BBS
equipment will not be returned prior to a long drawn out legal fight.
Although I have every intention of filing whatever civil suites are
necessary to get the equipment returned, I truly believe there will not be
a quick return of OIE.
Tony
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From: BOB HALL Number: 1043
To: ARNIE GROSS Date: 08/17/93 10:35a
Subj: RE: CD-ROMS (1 EACH) FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
In my mind, an ad is an ad. The best way to keep everyone happy, is to limit
any ad, commercial, individual, or whatever to 10 lines. It works so well, or
has for so long anyway.
No big deal, just wanted to point it out to you.
Again, thanks.
BOB
:-)
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From: BOB HALL Number: 1044
To: ROEL SARCENO Date: 08/17/93 10:48a
Subj: A NEW IDEA ! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Your new idea has been tried before. It was a total nightmare. The market is
narrow enough right now, and getting tighter percentage of profitwise anyway.
It might work, but it would create a pricing war, cause dealers to fade away,
hurt sales in the long run, and most likely create tons of enemy's.
We are already seeing debates over $.95 in the echo's, and this was not the
original intent of the echo in the first place.
I think that Mr. Tim Helton in the CDROM SALE Echo might be willing to offer
that service, or possibly assist you in getting the concept set up. I for one,
just don't think we need the concept. However, I have been wrong before.
If it is done, I do not wish pricing information and the price wars to go on in
this echo. There are enough problems and debates going on as it is.
Anyway, that is just my opinion. As an example, I am in the business of
selling CD-ROM's, and most of the people in the echo really don't know I sell
CD-ROM's. As the moderator, I don't feel like it would be fair for me to post
some of my prices, as our company buys in large quantities, and the pricing is
very good. In the past, I have kept the mail order side of the business to
itself, and the echo to itself, both totally seperate. As an example, if we
purchase 2,000 discs for $3.00 each and sell them to dealers end users,
whatever for 10.00, then it simply creates bad business.
I am trying to explain this as easy as possible, without causing problems.
Anyway, if you get your idea working, please let me know. It might work this
time.
Bob Hall
Moderator
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From: BOB HALL Number: 1045
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/17/93 10:53a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Boris, you are surely aware that the topic of adult discs is banned from this
echo. I will appreciate your refraining from openly violating the guidelines
in this echo. I highly suggest you read messages in this echo from Mr. Tony
Davis.
In the future, your compliance witht the guidelines will be greatly
appreciated.
Bob Hall
Moderator.
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN Number: 1046
To: ALL Date: 08/16/93 9:09p
Subj: Netware Shareware CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the fifth edition of
its Netware CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a dump
of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The July 1993 CD-ROM has
801 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 120,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
Fax:301-963-2708, EMail:eengelmann@worldbank.org
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* Origin: Infinite Perspectives (1:109/519)
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From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 1047
To: EDWARD FOSTER Date: 08/16/93 11:35p
Subj: $99 cd rom drives Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
EF> Hello Terry...I've been absent of this echo most of the summer, hows
EF> things been for you? These are certainly some good
EF> prices...I'm interested in purchacing 4 more drives
Sorry, they are all gone. I had to raise some quick cash for school
registration for my kids so I let the last 20 go at cost.
I'll put you on my list to call if I get more. Thanks.
EF> be looking to purchase from you? Also, the original 4
EF> that I purchaced back in 11-92 are still kickin and
GREAT ! Mine are running great too!
--- Maximus 2.01wb
* Origin: Center of the Cosmos (1:3625/441)
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From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 1048
To: ALAN EDWARDS Date: 08/12/93 2:15p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Drives?? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
To: Alan
By: RAVER
On: Thursday August 12 1993 at 14:15
Tuesday August 03 1993, Alan Edwards tells Nicholas Goldwyn:
AE> Does this mean there is something major wrong with the Mitsumi
AE> drives?
AE> Thanks to my mail packets getting screwed, I missed the beginning of
AE> this, but I am interested because I am considering buying a Mitsumi
AE> drive.
AE> Alan.
AE> ... Sorry, the Dog ate my Blue Wave packet.
OK, maybe I can throw a little light on this: A major discussion on the
efficiency of Mitsumi CD-ROMS has been going on for some time, and a conclusion
has by no means been reached. The arguments were basically that the Mitsumis
could not read ALL the software around. Fact is, the reading problems usually
came from a wrong setup or computer/CD-ROM incompatibility. Another fact that
cropped up was that the problem was in the old 8-bit controller, which was
obsolete and could not handle all the disks. A new 16-bit controller is
apparently being sold with the new Mitsumi LU-005S drive, and many people seem
satisfied with this drive. So far this discussion has not managed to change my
mind, and in Sept. I'll buy an LU-005S. Basically, there is no flaw in the
drives, so don't be scared off by mere comments. If you can, try going for the
new, 16-bit LU-005S, instead of the older 8-bit drive of which I am afraid I
forgot the name. Hope this helps, good luck.
■
■■■■RAVER■■■■
■
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 1049
To: ALL Date: 08/16/93 8:40a
Subj: 7th Guest $40 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
For a limited time 7th Guest $40 plus shipping. ($3 US, $6 international).
We also have many other specials. If you are interested be in our mailing list,
send your information via fax or e-mail to:
GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400 or 1-800-373-0628 1-206-473-1634 FAX 1-800-277-5179 FAX
Fido: 1:138/116 or 1:138/120
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 1050
To: ALL Date: 08/16/93 8:42a
Subj: CD Winbox $12 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
We are liquadating the following disks:
CD Powerbox $12
CD Winbox $12
Night Owl's v9 $21
GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400
1-206-473-1634 FAX
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* Origin: GroupWare CD-ROM Support & Sales BBS: 1-206-581-9088 (1:138/116)
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 1051
To: ED YEE Date: 08/16/93 8:44a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Support Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Are there any in Canada ?
No!..TTYL
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* Origin: GroupWare CD-ROM Support & Sales BBS: 1-206-581-9088 (1:138/116)
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From: STEVE THOMAS Number: 1052
To: ANDREW BARFOOT Date: 08/13/93 8:08p
Subj: 7'th Guest Won't Run! ! ! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AB> ST> I just bought the 7'th Guest and it lloks pretty good. It would
AB> ST> be better if I could get it to run. I start it up and it goes
AB> ST> through the opening credits, it then goes into the book with the
AB> ST> pictures on each page. It animates the picture and talks and then
AB> ST> turns the page. Well my problem is that it hangs the system at
AB> ST> different places in this opening scene.
AB> I had the same problem and I changed from SVGA to MCGA
AB> graphics and the problem stopped straight away. Never hung
AB> again...
I tried that. I also tried the upgrade, changing the sound card setup,
increasing my CD buffers, changing hardware straps, and much more. I finally
put it on the shelf until October when I plan on replacing my mother board with
a 486-66 and getting the doublespin CD-ROM drive.
Thanks for the help,
Steve....
--- GEcho 1.01+
* Origin: BillBoard Sagamihara Ja 81-427-77-0847 V32Bis [CDROM] (6:731/16)
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From: MICHAEL GEGGUS Number: 1053
To: DEBBIE MARANTZ Date: 08/14/93 10:05a
Subj: Re: BEGINING... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Debbie Marantz to Match Point <=-
DM> Creative Labs will release the Panasonic 56x series CD Rom sometime
DM> in August and the price is supposed to be about $399.xx US. The CD Rom
I just purchased the 562B for $279, it cam with CD-ROM, controller, cables
and drivers. I plugged it straight into the SB Pro card CD ROM I/F and
audio connector. MegaDemo Benched it at 250ms access and 330Kbps. Now my
Mitsumi's sitting in a box along with the extra controller for the 562B.
BTW the driver that came with it was CDMKE41.sys (the driver for the SB
Pro I/F) everyone in the echo say's you need SBPCD.sys or SBCD.sys, but
driver seems to work just fine. I've run 7th Guest (what a difference
from the mitsumi) NightOwl's and others, but still can't get Mother Goose
to run with the SB Pro. Say's can't init audio hardware, then locks on
the opening screen.
If your looking for the 562B look for Wee Yung in this echo........
/|/|ike
... Capt'n we've replaced the Lu005 for the 562B........Warp 9 Mr. Scott
--- Blue Wave/TG v2.10 [NR]
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From: MICHAEL GEGGUS Number: 1054
To: DOUG TAXIS Date: 08/14/93 10:06a
Subj: Re: CD ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Doug Taxis to All <=-
DT> I was just wondering I am going to buy a new CD ROM I was going to
DT> get the Toshiba xm-3401b, but they tell it will work with my Sound
DT> Blaster Pro, Other people I talk to that sells the same Toshiba model
DT> says my Sound Blaster Pro will not work with the Toshiba, Was told I
Forget the Toshiba &}.....It is a great drive, but if you want double-speed
and want to plug straight into your SB Pro, then the Matsushita (Panasonic)
562B is the drive for you (no I'm not a dealer). I bought it from Wee Yung
(this echo somewhere) for $279+Shipping. Unfortunately it comes with a
controller card that is now sitting in the box waiting for some practical
use (maybe if the SB Pro smokes or something). I plugged the I/F cable
into the SB Pro and the audio cable into the first three conncetions on
the SB Pro (only uses three, L/R and shares the common ground). The
driver disk that came with the card included drivers for the SBPro
(CDMKE41.SYS) others in the cho say that you need SBCD.SYS or SBPCD.SYS
but the July 93 drivers and hardware worked fine. Mega CD Benches the
drive at 280ms and 330KBps......Motorized tray and no caddies, Very nice
drive for the money. 7th Guest runs great, and is a world of difference
(speed wise) from my mitsumi LU005........Hope this helped
/|/|ike
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From: MICHAEL GEGGUS Number: 1055
To: STEPHEN RETZLAFF Date: 08/14/93 10:05a
Subj: Re: SOUNDBLASTER (PANASONIC) CD-RO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Stephen Retzlaff to Dave Ducharme <=-
-=> Quoting Dave Ducharme to Stephen Hamshaw on 05 Jul 93 11:02:00 <=-
SH> 2nd, I'm using the interface card that came with the CD-ROM and pluging
SH> the auto cord into the SB card because I don't have the right driver
SH> with the SBPro software, ????????.sys dose anyone know what file I
DD> I think the file you're looking for is SBPCD.SYS which is available
DD> from the Creative Labs BBS. I don't have the number for that BBS handy
DD> at the moment, but I'll try to find it.
Stephen I have the 562B that came w/controller. My driver disk included
a SB Pro CD driver called CDMKE41.SYS. The driver worked great with the
CD-ROM I/F and audio cables connected to the SB Pro. Now my controller
sitting in the shipping box...............
/|/|ike
... "I say we nuke the site from Orbit, it's the only way to be sure"
--- Blue Wave/TG v2.10 [NR]
* Origin: The Texas Lighthouse 81-3117-63-7572 (6:731/18.0)
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From: MICHAEL GEGGUS Number: 1056
To: GREG WILLIAMS Date: 08/14/93 10:06a
Subj: Re: MITSUMI DRIVES VS PANASONIC Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Greg Williams to All <=-
GW> Can anyone tell me if Mitsumi (sp?) CDR drives are PhotoCD
GW> compatible, and what sort of seek/access time they have? Also, how do
GW> these drives, which are IDE, compare to the SBPro Panasonic CDR drives
Greg I've been using the Mitsumi Lu005 since January and it's a great drive.
But when I upgraded in June to a 486DX2-66 and SB Pro, I was hoping someone
would come out with a drive supported by the SB Pro and double speed. The
Panasonic 562B was the answer. It plugged into the SB Pro no problem, and
the driver (my case CDMKE41.SYS) came with the CD-ROM. Works great and
benches at 250ms @ 330Kbps using MegaDemo CDBench......Although I bought
the SB Pro seperatly from the CD-ROM I paid $129 for the SB Pro w/STW
encyclopedia for Win MPC, indy 500 and Lemmings (plus other goodies) and
$279 for the 562B (it did include a controller that I didn't need). The
MFR date on the drive was July 1993....I would assume Creative Labs is
coming out with a new bundle SB Pro/16/ASP and the 562B/563 really soon
so it might be worth it just to wait for the bundle deal (usually cheaper,
or at least the free goodies offset the price)...Hope that helped
/|/|ike....
... Catch the Blue Wave!
--- Blue Wave/TG v2.10 [NR]
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From: MICHAEL GEGGUS Number: 1057
To: ERIC LOTT Date: 08/14/93 10:06a
Subj: Re: Cd-Rom Help Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Eric Lott to All <=-
EL> I really need some advice and help concerning CD-ROM. Right now I
Eric, Look for the new double speed drives mfr'd by matsushita (panasonic)
bundled with the SB Pro/16/ASP. I already had the SB Pro and bought the
Panasonic 562B to pair up with the SB Pro. MegaDemo Benches it a 250ms
at 330Kbps. I've run everything I've got on it (never tried Kodak PCDs
because I don't have any), but 7th Guest (seems to be the show stopper)
works flawlessly, and is a world of difference (speed wise) from my Mitsumi
Lu005 (Benched at 380ms @ 150Kbps).. If you already have the SB Pro, Wee
Yung at TRUC (this echo) has the drive/cables/drivers/controller (although
the controller is useless if you have the SB Pro) for $279US + Shipping.
Or you can wait for the Creative Labs bundles to come out this or next
month.
BTW the best thing to do is shop till you drop &} Dealers prices vary
so much and there is a lot available. Also stay tuned to this echo and
read what's going on, and who's having problems or success' with what.
Hope that helped /|/|ike.....
... Traded my Mitsumi for a Ferrari......okay I threw in a few bucks too!
--- Blue Wave/TG v2.10 [NR]
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From: CORRY MACFARLANE Number: 1058
To: JEFF BRIELMAIER Date: 08/16/93 5:56p
Subj: Re: BBS Door for CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JB-> CM>It can also be downloaded from this BBS (Space Coast BBS)
JB-> CM>as well as many other BBS's in the Central Florida area.
JB-> CM>You can also download it from America On-Line if you are a
JB-> CM>member of AOL.
JB->
JB-> What the name of the file on AOL (JefferyAB@aol.com)
It's called CDA1_7.ZIP. It's in the BBS Doors area of Communications. Let me
know how you like it.
Corry Macfarlane
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From: ANDREW BELL Number: 1059
To: ALL Date: 08/13/93 2:37p
Subj: looking.. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm looking for a CD-Rom.. Must be BBS door compatible
should contain Graphics, Sound, And Grsaphic & sound
utilities,, if you know f any, please contact me here
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 1060
To: TOM CZACHOR Date: 08/17/93 10:11a
Subj: DMA METHOD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thanks, Tom. I've suspected the small buffer for some time holding back
performance. I *did* find the method for switching - jumper blockes on the
interface board. Thanks to your data, I don't think I'll bother with it.
Cheers!
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 1061
To: JANUSZ SUROWKA Date: 08/17/93 10:21a
Subj: CD SPEEDWAY Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JS> isn't it 100ms=1 sec.
JS> ??? correct me if i'm wrong, but the next time you look at a sto
JS> obsereve carefully
No, 100ms = 1/10 sec. "ms" means "millisecond" which is 1/1000 of a
second.
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From: KEN BACHMAN @ 930/1 Number: 1062
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 08/12/93 7:17a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Games Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Yes, I have the same speed drive and it runs just fine. Only problem
was the driver for my trident video card was old so I had to get the
new version.
A couple of other good games if you have not tried them are LOOM and
The Secret of Monkey Island. Sherlock Holmes is pretty good also.
I just bought Jones In The Fast Lane, was not impressed, more like a
board game than an adventure. I also just purchased The Adventures of
Willy Beamish and it is pretty good also.
--- QM v1.30/b
# Origin: Horizon RBBS 214-881-9346 HST (8:930/1.0)
* Origin: Gateway System to/from RBBS-NET (RBBS-PC 1:10/8)
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From: ROEL SARCENO Number: 1063
To: CHRIS JOHNSON Date: 08/17/93 6:59a
Subj: A new Idea ! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Chris,
CJ> Give me some more info on node 1:9999/9999
CJ> I may be interestd.
Can I call you voice. Please netmail your phone number to 1:203/1316
Thank's
Roel
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* Origin: Video ViSion * Home of VIEW-cat * 916-682-1655 (1:203/1316.0)
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From: STEVE PROCTOR Number: 1064
To: ALL Date: 08/17/93 3:06p
Subj: OS/2 & Mitsumi Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does the Mitsumi CDROM drive work with OS/2 2.1? I need a driver for it if
there is one available. Anyone know where I can get it?
Thanks,
Steve Proctor
--- GEcho/RA2.0+
* Origin: The Microline OS/2 BBS Sacramento, CA 916-392-7/8123 (1:203/529)
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From: CARLOS BENITZ Number: 1065
To: CHARLES HART Date: 08/17/93 2:57p
Subj: x-rated cd-rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CH>Remember the crack about netmail above? Could it be that the moderator
CH>has been receiving _lots_ of messages asking for this new rule by users
CH>who (glory be) _followed_ _the_ _rules_ and complained by netmail? I
CH>understand international netmail works, too.
Hypocrite.
* SLMR 2.1 * Please smash head through monitor to continue.
--- Maximus 2.01wb
* Origin: The Airtight Garage, San Francisco, Cal. 415-641-0348 (1:125/17)
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From: DON RIEB Number: 1066
To: STEVE PESANT Date: 08/16/93 5:10a
Subj: Re: CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SP> Just to give you a little help with PC-SIG disks...Yes they are pretty good
SP> Lots of information regarding each file and a pretty good selection of
SP> files...However, do not use it on your BBS...It must be specially licensed
You must have read the message where I was helping somone out with what
CDROM door to get for PC-SIG. I used to have it up on my system with CDCOM
but took it down right away to replace it with a CDROM that I could import
into Renegade my BBS software. I know all about the licensing but thanks
for looking out for me.
** Don **
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From: MIKE AVILA Number: 1067
To: ALAN MCCREADY Date: 08/17/93 4:40p
Subj: PAS16/TEXEL 3024 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Mike thanks for answering. I downloaded the latest driver from the M
-> BBS I believe it was 3.02 drive still didn't work so I callled Tech h
-> were not very helpful after I waited 20-30 minutes. Only thing they
-> either the drive was bad or the SCSI cable was bad since the SCSI por
-> card was recongized but could not detect CD drive connected to it. I
-> of messing with this and will send it back to Texel to check and repa
-> originally bought the drive as I saw the drive being sold with the PA
-> is a fast drive.
-> ajm
->
-> --- Maximus 2.01wb
-
Sorry to hear you are having problems. I have called MediaVision Tech
Support a couple of times and they have always been helpful and solved
my problems. Did you buy the correct cable for the connection? I
bought it all as a kit with the Texel drive. I had it all going in a
1/2 hour and the only reason it took that long was because of my trying
to use the Trantor driver. That is why I remember how to do that so
clearly. I broke down and read the manual (horrors!) and saw the line
to use the kit driver NOT the one that came with the CD-ROM drive
(generic Trantor driver for a SCSI controoler board NOT a sound board).
I hope it all works out. The 3024 is a 265 ms drive making it one of
the fastest. However, Texel is supposed to come out with a new
slightly faster drive any day now. It sure is hard to keep ahead,
especially if one is poor!
Mike
--- WM v3.01/91-0071
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From: LARRY WOOD Number: 1068
To: BLAINE RICHARD Date: 08/17/93 10:26a
Subj: NEW CD-SOUTHERN BEAUTIES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> FEDERAL offense to reproduce, distribute, or exhibate copyrighted
> images. I hope this has answered your question.
Blaine,
It is refreshing and enlightening to see that you really do understand that
it is against the law (Federal, at that) to produce or distribute copyrighted
material. Of course, I must admit, based on our investigator's reports, and
purely in my opinion, that your statements have taken on a tone much akin
to that of a reformed alcoholic or a 'born again' religious fanatic.
We and our attorneys remain keenly interested in discussing your alleged
involvement in producing the "Busty Babes" line of CD-ROMs. Please feel
free to call (407) 658-2687 at your convenience.
Larry W. Wood
'Go Graphics' Group
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From: ERIC HSIAO Number: 1069
To: JANUSZ SUROWKA Date: 08/17/93 9:36p
Subj: Pas16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Yup. You get all that and more with the PAS-16XL. It's the greatest soundcard
with the best price/performance. You can spend $450 for the SB 16 ASP + WB, or
you can spend $325 for the PAS-16XL and get great Korg wavetable synthesis with
chorus and reverb, plus you get the added bonus of a standard SCSI port instead
of SB 16 proprietary port. This means you can use the fast Toshiba 3401b with
the PAS-16...you have to use the panasonic with the 350ms access time with the
SB 16.
- Eric
--- Squish v1.01
* Origin: deltaComm Online - The Telix Support BBS! (1:151/107)
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From: MICHAEL LECUYER Number: 1070
To: ALL Date: 08/16/93 9:39a
Subj: Simtel20 CD ROM viruses Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CDROM: Simtel20, April 1993
The following files failed to pass the Norton AntiVirus tests. This
does not necessarily mean that the files listed below actually have
the viruses and may only indicate FALSE POSITIVES on the part of the
virus hunting software. Anyone with a different scanner might want
to try these out and post their results to refute or substantiate my
tests.
Scanner used:
The Norton AntiVirus, 2.1,
Copyright 1989-1992 by Symantec Corporation
Searching ZIP: S:\MSDOS\BBS\FNNR100.ZIP
FNNR.EXE This file contains a strain of MtE Infected
Searching ZIP: S:\MSDOS\DIRUTL\DCPDIR62.ZIP
SDIRDOC.EXE This file contains a strain of MtE Infected
TDIRDOC.EXE This file contains a strain of MtE Infected
Searching ZIP: S:\MSDOS\CATALOG\DCPCOV41.ZIP
COVDOCS.EXE This file contains a strain of MtE Infected
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From: DAVID BURKE Number: 1071
To: BOB HALL Date: 08/18/93 12:28a
Subj: RE: Thanks Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
People are always giving the moderator a hard time but, I am really glad
to get rid of 100 messages of buy the latest BooBs from Mars CD-ROM or
whatever.
I think there should be a HARDWARE ONLY CDROM echo
SOFTWARE ONLY CDROM echo
Thanks
-=- Dave
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 1072
To: CLYDE SISLER Date: 08/17/93 10:02p
Subj: 2 things Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CS> It would be extremely useful if you'd include some sort of 'BBS
CS> ready' indicator on your CD-ROM availability lists.
I carry a BBS ready indicator on my main prices lists, but they are too big to
post at 200 lines total. Our catalog as PCJCDS.ZIP is available by downloading
from 615-479-1047 14400.
s
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 1073
To: DIANE PENCIL Date: 08/17/93 10:08p
Subj: Nightowl 8 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DP> software good but they will. Unfortunately I get to
DP> pay an additional 15.00 on a 29.00 disk. Make me
DP> feel warm inside ya know? As a reseller who bought
DP> several hundered dollars worth of CD's from you
DP> folks I would have hoped for a small amount of
DP> cooperation.
We would have replaced it for you if you had bought it from us. I think the
best solution for you at the moment would be to call Nightowl direct or Ray
Herold who is their official support BBS at 703-439-3060. If you buy any other
CDs from us, we always stand behind what we sell and we stock all of the
Nightowl series.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 1074
To: RANDY WHITE Date: 08/17/93 10:13p
Subj: MORE CD'S ON SALE! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RW> I'm looking for Willy Bemish and Space Quest IV on
RW> CD, do you have them and can you give me a
RW> Price...Thanks Randy...
We have Willy for $24.95 and Space Quest 4 for $23.95. Call 615-339-0235 24
hours to order.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 1075
To: DAN POLIVY Date: 08/17/93 10:16p
Subj: Shareware cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DP> I was looking for a Shareware CD for my BBS. I run
DP> MAXIMUS. I was looking too see if anyone had any
DP> suggestions on what to gey, what to stay away from,
DP> etc. Any help would be appreciated.
We have several good choices such as Nightowl 9, Software Vault 2, So Much
Shareware #3, Shareware Studio #2, etc. Give me a call voice at 615-476-4026
after 5 eastern to discuss. Our prices on them are excellent.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 1076
To: SAM VANDYKE Date: 08/17/93 10:24p
Subj: fdae Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SV> gsfgfg
htghgh :-)
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 1077
To: BILLY BATTON Date: 08/17/93 10:26p
Subj: price Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BB> Does any one Have prices on Adult Cd-rom Disk?
Call our BBS at 615-478-2890 and dl adult.zip. All conversations or info
regarding adult cds has been banned from this echo by Bob Hall, so you will
need to end this thread.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 1078
To: ALL Date: 08/17/93 10:31p
Subj: Red Hot CDROM Specials Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PCJ "Hot" WEEKLY SPECIALS 8/17 - 8/24
BattleChess................$ 22.95 PC Sig 12.................... 19.95
Color Magic/Women of Venus.. 29.95 Prophone '93 Business........ 24.95
History of Jazz............. 25.95 Prophone '92 3 CD Set........ 31.95
MacMillan Dictionary 4 Kids. 26.95 Seventh Guest (No Video)..... 44.95
PC Sig 11................... 18.95 Space + Dinosaur Adventure... 48.95
Monster Media '93........... 26.95 So Much Shareware #3......... 26.95
Orders - 800-547-7817 or 615-339-0235 (24 Hours)
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From: SHAUN RADER Number: 1079
To: KEN POIRIER Date: 08/17/93 11:29a
Subj: 7th guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
<<***** KEN POIRIER wrote this on 08-14─93 {May be edited} *****>>
->I was looking at the reviews for the 7th guest and It seem alot like a
->castle of doctor brian type game. It just puzzles or is there any kin
->of object minipulation? and of course, Is it worth the $70?
It's basically just a puzzle game. You can't pick up anything in this
game, but it really is good. I think it's worth it.. you can get it for
less then $50 at Price Club. I got it for $70 when it first came out,
and I don't regret it! The graphics alone are worth it (compared to
other games at least).
It's not the type of game you can play over and over. After you beat it
once, the only reason anyone would play it again is to see all the
animation, not to find something you never found before.
-Shaun Rader-
-Madman@Liberty.Com-
08/17/93 10:50
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From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 1080
To: LAURENS LINSSEN Date: 08/17/93 9:56a
Subj: Advice Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> The shop owner here told me the double speed drive from panasonic
-> will be available in september or october for about $394.
-> So what would you recommend me? The mitsumi, the panasonic, or
Go with the panasonic 562b its double speeding allowing it to do
300kb/sec unlike the mitsumi its single speed and can only do 150kbytes
per second transfer rate. Has 64k cache mitsumi only has 32k, it has a
motirized tray when ejecting mitsumi has a spring, panasonic doesn't
require an interface if you have a sound blaster 16 card the 562/563b
panasonic drive is the only drive that can be plugged onto the sound
blaster 16 card. In the states its $180 U.S. for the mitsumi and $249
U.S. for the panasonic 562b so for an extra $70 its well worth it how
come its so expensive in the netherlands? I was about to purchase the
mitsumi but when I readabout the panasonic 562b I was surprised because
that drive is considered to be very good stands on top of the $500+
drives (toshiba,nec,sony). If you do get a cdrom also get a cache
program norton speed cache+ it will cut your access time even less 50%
average.
Louis
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From: CARROLL KONG Number: 1081
To: ALL Date: 08/17/93 6:30p
Subj: Problems with PAS 16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Anyone with problems on the PAS 16? I believe the answer lies within a
DMA and IRQ conflict. If you play any song or program with great audio sound
and notice a bleep or a creep or something really messed up, you might have a
DMA and IRQ conflict. There a few ways to solve it. One being that you must
disable your sound blaster emulataion and your m-401 emulation totally. Two,
you can make sure that there are no devices that are using the same IRQ and
DMA. Hope this helps some bewildered people!
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From: CARROLL KONG Number: 1082
To: ALL Date: 08/17/93 8:50p
Subj: I found the culprit! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I found out that if you have a SCSI card in your computer, it could cause
a problem with the PAS 16! I never realized that! That's probably what
caused my problem, only thing is that I can't remove my SCSI card cause it
needs the cd-rom. I would use the Proaudio's scsi section but my cable is too
small..... I need a converter but the one I saw was a 3 feet long cable
converter! I couldn't fit 3 feet in my computer! Anyway, hope that helps
some guys.
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From: RODRIGO SAVASSI Number: 1083
To: CHRIS CONKLIN Date: 08/14/93 4:02p
Subj: Re: Free Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Chris
About your message, i'm very interested in a list of avaliable
CD's
CC> C-3 Production Systems is now online. If you would like to receive
CC> catalog of CD-ROM disks at discount prices, leave message here, give
CC> me a call or write to the address below.
If you also ship over to Brazil, Could you please send me , i'm
very interested in your discount prices too.Send it to:
Rodrigo Savassi
Rua Bernardo Guimaraes, 2145 apto. 1602 - Lourdes
30140-082 - Belo Horizonte - MG - Brazil
Thank You.
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From: RODRIGO SAVASSI Number: 1084
To: LOUIS CARRESI Date: 08/14/93 4:06p
Subj: Re: * x-rated cd-rom * Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Louis
Reading a message to you, about animals and people going to IT !!!!
, i stay very interested to see it.
I never saw the original message. How can i get that CD ?
Thanks
Rodrigo Savassi
[BH-BRAZIL]
... ... Näo existe mulher feia, nós é que bebemos pouco !!!
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From: RODRIGO SAVASSI Number: 1085
To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 08/14/93 4:12p
Subj: Re: BEST CDROM PRICES!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Doug Carpenter to All <=-
Hi Doug
Do you also ship over to Brazil?
If si, i'm very interested in a complet list of Games 1993
avaliable. Send it to:
Rodrigo Savassi
Rua Bernardo Guimaraes 2145, apto. 1602 - Lourdes
30140-082 - Belo Horizonte - MG - Brazil
Thanks
... *** By Clube de Informática da C.P.O.S. ***
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From: TIM KLAN Number: 1086
To: TANYA BROCK Date: 08/13/93 6:43p
Subj: Re: NIGHT OWL 9 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TB>Does anyone have a FreQable files list for night owl 9? Would like
>something I could pick up at 14.4 or higher.
Yep! FREQ NIGHT90.ZIP from 1:2601/566.. 16.8UsRobotics Dual Standard
FileSize: 347,620
Also Available to anyone who wants to FREQ them:
Disc Name | File Name | File Size
-----------------------------------------------------
Shareware Avalanche | AVALANCHE.ZIP | 145,219
Night Owl's v6.0 | NIGHT60.ZIP | 418,360
Night Owl's v7.0 | NIGHT70.ZIP | 440,900
Night Owl's v8.0 | NIGHT80.ZIP | 348,269
Pier 1 Shareware | PIER1.ZIP | 393,989
Pier 2 Shareware | PIER2.ZIP | 313,967
So Much Shareware 1 | SMS1.ZIP | 130,867
So Much Shareware 2 | SMS2.ZIP | 134,681
So Much Shareware 3 | SMS3.ZIP | 166,057
World Vision 3-Pack | WORLDVIS.ZIP | 473,316
SwimWear 1993 | SWIM93.ZIP | 36,851
...tim klan
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From: TIM KLAN Number: 1087
To: DAVID SZLUCHA Date: 08/13/93 6:47p
Subj: Shareware version of CD S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DS>Is there a shareware CD-ROM cache out there?
Yep, CAV10E.ZIP (cache-all is the name). It's about 228k. On the So
Much Shareware/3 disk, or download from Tim's BBS @ 814-825-1731.
first call d/ls
...tim klan
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From: JOE HAYES Number: 1088
To: DON KULHA Date: 08/16/93 6:25p
Subj: CDROM Slows BBS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DK> bought into lantastic in the first place. The other thing I like
DK> about WEB NOS is that it's less finicky about what network cards it
DK> can use andin some instances supports more options on them (ie,
DK> addresses/IRQs). Good stuff...made my life a bit more pleasant. Their
DK> number is1.415.331.1449 in Sausalito, CA.
DK> DCK
Thanks or the info Don, Just wondering, will the WEB NOS work with the lantasti
2mbps cards?
If so how much do they want for there software?
-Joe
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From: CRAIG BAKER Number: 1089
To: DANNY TONG Date: 08/16/93 12:27p
Subj: CD-ROM RENTALS? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> A "TRY-BEFORE-YOU-BUY" CD-ROM will be offered by IBM to PC
> manufacturers for bundling with their systems. The CD will include
> dozens of fully functional programs from major software publishers,
> including Microsoft, Micrografx and Symantec. The programs can be
> used up to 3 times before they are rendered inoperative. Users can
> then purchase an electronic key via an 800 number to fully unlock
Interesting. I wonder how they keep track of usage on a read-only media such as
CD-ROM. Even if installed on the hard drive, a re-installation from the CD-ROM
would be "fresh".
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From: STEVE HOYT Number: 1090
To: JERRY WEIMER Date: 08/17/93 11:52p
Subj: Mitsumi Help!!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> I have a Mitsumi CD-ROM that I can't get to work. It
> won't read a disc. When I try at the DOS shell it say
> WARNING! Read Fult and when I try at the command
> line it says CDR101:Not ready reading drive D . Any
> help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Are you running more than 1 mitsumi drive? I have 2 installed and had a
similar problem. I had to change DMA chanels and IRQ's to get them both to
work.
Steve
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From: NICK VONRUEDEN Number: 1091
To: DIANA KIRKSEY Date: 08/17/93 7:16p
Subj: CD Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Diana,
I was wondering if you could send me a catalog?
My adress is below.
Nick Vonrueden
W272S3995 Stone Gate Ct.
Waukesha WI,53188
Leave me a message if you are sending me one or not.
Thanx,
Nick
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From: MICHAEL EVANS Number: 1092
To: ALL Date: 08/15/93 9:38a
Subj: Multi CD Rom Drives Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello All
Is there a multiple cd rom drive available for a BBS apart from the Pioneer 6
disk unit ?
Thanks
Michael
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From: STEPHEN RANSON Number: 1093
To: ALL - AUSTRALIAN READER Date: 08/17/93 12:30a
Subj: Cd-roms - Exlnt Prices Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
The Australian CD-ROM Club has Night Owl 9 for $69 or $62.10 for members!!
Dinosaur Adventure $59, Groliers Encyc $139, Super Games 4 Windows $20.
Heaps of BBS Ready CD's, Clipart, Programs, Sound, Games etc from $27
Membership entitles you to:
o Regular huge catalogue with descriptions of most titles.
o 10% discount on all software purchases through Club.
o News, Reviews, Tips and Giveaways in our regular newsletter.
o Freecall (008) 811190 mail ordering.
Call today to join! (008) 811190 or FAX (06)2914591, CITACT BBS (06)2928288
---Australian CD-ROM Club - Ph (008)811190 Fax (06)2914591
* UniQWK v2.0 * The Windows Mail Reader
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From: GIL GOLDFINCH Number: 1094
To: ALL Date: 08/17/93 10:21p
Subj: NEC Cd-Rom Support Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I recently bought an NEC CDR55 CD-ROM but found no device driver or audio
cable was included. I have a PAS16 sound card with SCSI interface built into
the board. NEC support service advise that they cannot supply the audio cable
or driver software unless I purchase their SCSI interface kit for about
A$200.00.
I would be interested if others have similair problems when dealing with NEC.
I would have expected them to be more helpful if they are prepared to sell
their CD readers as individual units.
I have managed to obtain a driver from BBS but still looking for the audio
cable. Apparently NEC use a non standard cable socket on the CD drive.
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From: MALCOLM YOUNG Number: 1095
To: STEPHEN HARRINGTON Date: 08/15/93 12:51p
Subj: Panasonic CR-562B CD-ROM drive. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Stephen,
> It's a Panasonic CR-562B
What is the stated capacity of these drives and will they read all of the discs
that are 700+ Meg. The GIGABYTE GOLD disc has 730 Meg on it and the original
SoundBlaster/Panasonic drive can only read the first 680 Meg or so.
Regards, Malcolm.
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From: LOIS FRANKEL Number: 1096
To: ALBERTO ARVANI LACOMBE Date: 08/17/93 9:50p
Subj: Cd's for cd-rom's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 08-05-93 18:45 Alberto Arvani Lacombe said something about Cd's for
cd-rom's, to which I reply:
AAL> I think you can help me ...
I doubt if I can be of much help, but someone else here probably can.
-> What BBS programs does Sysops use ? What version ?
You'll have to ask the sysops; I'm not a sysop. Common BBS programs are
Maximus, Wildcat, PCBoard, TBBS, etc. Each region in the U.S. seems to
favor a particular program.
... I used to be indecisive, now I'm not so sure
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From: LOIS FRANKEL Number: 1097
To: JOHN PEARCE Date: 08/17/93 9:50p
Subj: Re: new adult cd-rom echo Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JP> ! Origin: John's Point (1:128/13.1)
So you're a point, now. Unfortunately none of the boards around here
support points. They're all PCBoard, despite my attempts to convince
them that Maximus is much better :). At least we *finally* got a local
Fidonet feed! Anyway, nice to hear from you, I'll tell Herb you said hi.
... Press any key to continue or any other key to quit
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From: LOIS FRANKEL Number: 1098
To: TERRY MARRS Date: 08/17/93 9:50p
Subj: Sony cd-rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 08-10-93 20:17 Terry Marrs said something about Sony cd-rom, to which I
reply:
TM> Hello All!
TM> Picked up a external Sony CD-ROM drive cheap. Does anyone know where I
TM> can obtain drivers for the drive? Does Sony have a BBS? Anyone got a
TM> number for SOny?
I don't see any reference to a BBS in my Sony manual, but they do list
the following phone numbers east coast: (201) 368-3774; west coast:
(714) 826-6410. My manual is dated 1991, and I haven't tested the
numbers. The (201) number is in New Jersey, which has added some new
area codes since '91; so if (201) doesn't work, try (609) or (908).
The (714) area code in California was also subdivided, but I think that
happened before '91. If (714) doesn't work, though, try (619). Good
luck!
... Acid test? You're soaking in it...
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From: THE WIZARD Number: 1099
To: KEVIN MATTESON Date: 08/16/93 10:44a
Subj: Re: CDROM Drives Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Concerning the matter of CDROM Drives:
Thus said Steve Proctor to Kevin Matteson, on 08-12-93 13:49
-=> Quoting Kevin Matteson to Steve Proctor <=-
KM> Steve,
KM> I have a couple of Toshiba XM3201 CD-ROM drives I would like to
KM> sell. These drives are SCSI 350ms access drives. They come with one
How much?
... It *IS* as bad as you think, and they *ARE* out to get you.
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From: BRIAN HIPPS Number: 1100
To: ALL Date: 08/17/93 4:45p
Subj: Ic-replacement disc Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone know if there is a cd-rom disc that contains semiconductor
replacements guides from all manufacturers(sylvania,motorola,nec etc.). With a
search engine that would cross reference an ic number with other companies,
giving you ther replacement numbers the same part. Does anything like this
exist? If so, I want one.
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 1101
To: BOB HALL Date: 08/17/93 8:20p
Subj: MAC CD'S Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
BH> Please call the person, and do not post such lenghty messages in the
BH> echo, please.... it will be appreciated..
BH>
BH> Bob Hall Moderator.
Roger that!..m2
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* Origin: Fairfax, VA (1:109/70.986@fidonet)
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 1102
To: STEVE PESANT Date: 08/17/93 7:37a
Subj: Re: So Much Shareware III Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> So I was just wondering.. How large is the disk? What types of files are
> on it? and is it BBS Ready? Like I said before I'm always looking for
> something new and well...I DO Believe this fits that description <grin>
Hi Steve, I have not checked the exact numbers of the files yet, but it came
out two weeks ago. It is BBS ready. TTYL
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 1103
To: ALL Date: 08/17/93 7:44a
Subj: New Echo - Multimedia Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have started a new echo area called MULTIMEDIA
I will do the initial feeding, if you like to get linked, please send a net
mail and I will start feeding your node.
MULTIMEDIA Echo Coverage
------------------------
CD-ROM Players
CD-ROM Titles (Including adult)
Sound Cards
Multimedia Authoring Systems
Replication
Industry News Press Releases
and any other MultiMedia related topics
This echo also can be ported to any other sister nets and RIME.
Ismail Arslangiray
1:138/116 or 1:138/120
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From: GAVIN MCCONNON Number: 1104
To: ALL Date: 08/10/93 8:55p
Subj: FredFish (Amiga) Refer: NONE
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Does anyone have/know of a fred fish amiga disk with all the files arcived so
you can use it on a BBS without writing doors to arcive the programs?. Also is
there anywhere in the UK that has the Ami-Net CDRom from Walnut creak?, or any
other interesting Amiga titles (Sharewere/PD).
/_
\/av...
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From: SEAN DWYER Number: 1105
To: ALL Date: 08/11/93 1:12p
Subj: SBPro Deluxe Help Refer: NONE
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Someone please help me!!!
I've purchased a SBPro Deluxe Card Last week but each time i try to
boot up my PC(Which is a PS/1 386/20) It keeps resetting i.e. cold boot.
I've tried changing interrupt settings etc but to no avail.
Has anyone had this problem?If so I'm in dire need of your help.
Thank you!!!
P.S. I know I should never have bought an IBM PS/1 but I was a student
desperate for hardware at the time.
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From: CHRIS FLYNN Number: 1106
To: JONATHAN WARNER Date: 08/09/93 5:58p
Subj: Night Owl 9 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JW> I am having problems with Night Owl 9. The whole CD does not seem to
JW> read correctly on my drive, yet every other CD reads correctly. About
What drive do you have? Some drives (Creative Labs, Sony CDU31)
occasionally have problems reading discs with as much data as NOPV9.
Another possibility is a dirty lens. I tried cleaning mine with a disc
from Tandy and the drive read troublesome discs a lot more frequently,
although still with the occasional glitch.
... Don't judge a book by its movie
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From: MILES HARTIGAN Number: 1107
To: NICK PETKOVICH Date: 08/11/93 4:21p
Subj: CDs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Earlier, Nick Petkovich had mailed All the following:
Hello Nick,
NP> Can anybody ship CDs to the UK?
NP> I am after Peir Shareware #2 and any good Pascal CDs.
NP> I will be paying by VISA.
Why bother as the prices are not that different from local UK prices after
including the delivery and charges? Also, you are not going to have any easy
form of redress if you encounter problems.
I can recommend an outfit called the CD-ROM Exchange, which is run as a club.
The prices are quite good and they are very friendly as well. They also operate
a pretty neat buyback guarantee though I've never used it myself.
Watch out for their advert in the Commercial echo.
Miles
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From: CHRIS BALMER Number: 1108
To: EVERYONE Date: 08/11/93 8:28a
Subj: Mitsumi CD-Rom drives Refer: NONE
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11/8/93
Help !
I am about to order a Mitsumi drive but am unsure about connecting it directly
to a sound card . .
I have a Soundblaster 2 card and want to know if I can connect it directly to
the Mitsumi - I gather that the Mitsumi has ports that can be connected to a
set of amplified speakers, but if I connect the drive this way, will it make
the connection from the Sblaster to the speakers redundant ?
So, can the Sblaster & Mitsumi be connected so that the speakers are only
connected to one of the devices ?
If anyone can help, please leave me a message today as I am ordering the drive
very soon.
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From: NICHOLAS GOLDWYN Number: 1109
To: ALAN EDWARDS Date: 08/10/93 1:07p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Drives?? Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Alan Edwards to Nicholas Goldwyn <=-
MS> It makes me continually wonder why so many of these drives are being
MS> sold, when they have this apparent design flaw??? I mean, when the
AE> Does this mean there is something major wrong with the Mitsumi
AE> drives?
AE> Thanks to my mail packets getting screwed, I missed the beginning of
AE> this, but I am interested because I am considering buying a Mitsumi
AE> drive.
AE> Alan.
Sorry Alan
You addressed this to me and not the MS (whoever that was)
who posted the original message.
There is nothing intrinsically wrong with the Mitsumi drives themselves.
It's just that they do not come with drivers to run under OS/2. There are
at least two third-party drivers available but neither support multi-media
or multi-session Photo-CD. They also cost between $20-40 (which
adds significantly to the cost of these budget CD drives).
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From: NICHOLAS GOLDWYN Number: 1110
To: NICK PETKOVICH Date: 08/10/93 1:20p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Drives?? Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Nick Petkovich to Nicholas Goldwyn <=-
-=> Quoting Nicholas Goldwyn to Mike Shannon <=-
NG> The Mitsumi drives are much cheaper than any others - Pds 139 in the
NG> UK that's at least Pds 100 less than the next best priced. They are
NG> also Multi-Session Photo CD compatible, unlike many other budget
NG> drives.
NP> 100 Pounds!! Who are you trying to kid, I can get SCSI CD-ROM drives
NP> for 175+vat. (Or maybe even less)
I'm not trying to kid anyone! I paid Pds 149 + VAT for my Mitsumi which
included Photo Access software. This was the cheapest available, in-stock,
next-day delivered price I could find at the time. Most PC-Direct
advertisements were higher than that.
I didn't see any SCSI drives advertised at Pds 175 to which, of course,
most of us would have to add Pds 100 for the SCSI adaptor bringing
the total figure above what I originally suggested.
FYI, the next-cheapest drives I referred to were a Philips and a Sony -
both available at around Pds 239 - neither are SCSI drives.
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From: PADDY DRURY Number: 1111
To: ALL Date: 08/11/93 3:53a
Subj: playing audio cd 'help' Refer: NONE
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PLEASE some soul out there help me
I have a panasonic 562 drive gravis ultrasound card combo.
It will load cd files
play *.wav and *.midi files from hard and cd drive (dos & win)
Using a shareware utility it play tracks off audio cd's in dos
so far so good
I also have Animation Works Interactive ( brill ) running in windows,
this will not play / access audio cd tracks
it says it is having trouble with device driver.
no driver with Windows, drive, sound card or application
at least that I can find.
so in a word HHH..EEE..LLL..PPP
( I know its easy for you, dont just laugh, tell us mate [please] )
... wat the hex a decimal anyway
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From: PADDY DRURY Number: 1112
To: ALL Date: 08/12/93 1:12a
Subj: sell / swop lotus 123 on cd Refer: NONE
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I have a copy of lotus 123 cdrom still wrapped in plastic
( no jokes thanks it just costs to pass around the world )
I would like to sell or swop this
As I am in KENT U. K. this may only be of interest to Brits
Offers ??
regards paddy
... Comms modes = Telephone, Telegraph, Tell a woman
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From: PADDY DRURY Number: 1113
To: ALL Date: 08/12/93 1:15a
Subj: dinosaurs ? which one ?? Refer: NONE
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Me got new cd player
Me got son
Me HAVE to have dinosaur cd
Me ask help in which is best
You tell me
Me say thanks
... wat the hex a decimal anyway
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From: DAVIDE THOMAS Number: 1114
To: CHRIS CONKLIN Date: 08/12/93 4:12p
Subj: Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Could you please send me your catalog!
David E. Thomas
81 Station Road
Penketh
Warrington
Cheshire
WA5 2PQ
ENGLAND
UK
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From: CHRIS FLYNN Number: 1115
To: LOUIS CARRESI Date: 08/11/93 7:41p
Subj: Mitsumi Lu005 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CB> Is that just my volume control (how far does yours turn) or what might
CB> be the prob ?
LC>
LC> Mine goes up to 11 !
CF> ROTFL!
LC> ^^^^^ Feeling dim today, can't think what this stands for.
Rolling on the floor laughing.
CF> (My all-time 3rd favourite movie)
LC> I was thinking of Spinal Tap and the amp that had volume controls
So was I!
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From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 1116
To: LAWRENCE MINTZ Date: 08/15/93 9:52a
Subj: Re: DOS 6.0 Refer: NONE
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To: Lawrence
By: Giuliano Maciocci Jr.
On: Sunday August 15 1993 at 09:52
Sunday August 08 1993, Lawrence Mintz tells Greg Haskins:
LM> Ok, then try adding DBLSPACE to your DOS 5. Secondly, after DOS
Fine, the problem here is that DoubleSpace is buggy, and therefore dangerous
(It screwed up my HD).
LM> boots, hit the F5 key and see if DOS 5 will cancel the CONFIG.SYS and
LM> AUTOEXEC.BAT. Finally, reboot and try hitting F8 to single step
LM> through the CONFIG.SYS file with DOS 5. For those of us with complex
Very cute. There is a PD program called "Choice" which does exactly the same
thing.
LM> configurations and constant tweaking of those configurations, the new
LM> features in DOS 6 are a god-send. However, I will admit that I
Oh yeah? Try running MemMaker when you have multiple configs, it'll optimize
scratch!
LM> personally do not use DBLSPACE on my system, simply because I find
LM> compression to be a problem on directories filled with .ZIP, .LZH, and
LM> .ARJ files.
Yeah, and you would find many other problems much worse when USING DoubleSpace.
LM> Larry
Bye!
■
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From: RODNEY RUDD Number: 1117
To: JOHN LAWRENCE Date: 08/17/93 2:24p
Subj: CDROM Disks Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'll let you know if I hear anything about the availability of Atari CD-ROMs.
Which CD-ROM drive do you have, and which Atari?
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From: BILL ENGLISH Number: 1118
To: MICHAEL GEGGUS Date: 08/15/93 8:11a
Subj: BEGINING... Refer: NONE
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Hello Michael!
Saturday August 14 1993 10:05, Michael Geggus wrote to Debbie Marantz:
MG> driver seems to work just fine. I've run 7th Guest (what a difference
MG> from the mitsumi) NightOwl's and others, but still can't get Mother Goose
MG> to run with the SB Pro. Say's can't init audio hardware, then locks on
MG> the opening screen.
I had the same problem. I think you are trying to run from DOS. I had to run
mine thru windows and it worked fine. But from DOS it gave me the same
statement that you got there.
Bill
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From: JAMES BROOKS Number: 1119
To: CHUCK OWENS Date: 08/15/93 2:55p
Subj: Re: JANE'S ON CDROM Refer: NONE
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Hi Chuck !
CO> A whle back someone was looking for info on the Jane's books on
CO> CDRom, Here is what I have...
CO> Titles
CO> Air-Launched Weapons
{....}
CO> The Phones are inside the USA: Voice: 800-241-7824
CO> Fax: 303-397-2747
CO> Oustide the USA: Voice: 303-790-0600 Ext. 59
CO> Fax: 303-397-2410
That was me. I did not want to make a LD phone call so I wrote them a letter
requesting their price list. I sent out the letter July 19 and I still have
not heard anything from them! By the end of this month I might just give them
a call.
CO> Hope this helps. If you get pricing info, please post it.
It does help, and I will let you all know if I find out anything.
James "Alex" Brooks
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From: KEVIN SULLIVAN Number: 1120
To: BOB HALL Date: 08/17/93 3:49p
Subj: Rules Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
BH>4. Do not be excessively annonying.
Like picking on spelling errors? <g>
-- SPEED 1.20 [NR]: ... Dyslexics have more fnu.
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From: KEVIN SULLIVAN Number: 1121
To: BOB HALL Date: 08/17/93 9:22p
Subj: RULES Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
BH>CDROM Echo Rules.
BH>4. Do not be excessively annonying.
Like yipping about spelling errors? <g>
* SPEED 1.20 [NR] * ... Dyslexics have more fnu.
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From: ROY COCHRUN Number: 1122
To: CARLOS BENITZ Date: 08/18/93 6:19a
Subj: Re: Best cdrom list Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
You> If you post reviews here I'll read them.
...
I'm glad someone will. I've reported my views on one or two discs and
never had a murmur (well, perhaps one). Like yourself, I'd like to see
honest reviews and less wrangling over whether or not Mitsumi drives
are good drives (we've beat that to death and those with the bucks may
buy the more expensive brands if they wish). Also we could do with
less discussion on whether we should be allowed to discuss or advertise
adult discs.
...
Seems the only reviews I see, however, are those about game discs. I
don't play games, so care less. I'm more interested in knowing
beforehand if discs like Mayo Clinic Family Health Book are worth
investing in, or the old Magazine Rack (which I really like and wish
there were more like it). If someone had told me that Dick's Some of
the World's Aircraft really was bad, I would never have wasted my money
on it. (It really is bad!) -- regards, Roy Cochrun
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From: DENNIS STERNER Number: 1123
To: ALL Date: 08/18/93 1:00p
Subj: SONY PLAYER FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SONY CD-ROM External Player Model 7205 - complete with player, cables,
interface card, setup software, manual, 1 caddy, and SOFTWARE TOOLWORKS
WORLD ATLAS CD-ROM Disc.
Access time for this model is 350 ms.
This model received an Editor's Choice rating from
PC Magazine in 10/29/91 issue.
For sale for $235 delievered.
Call 717-637-2972 if interested.
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From: BETH CORRIGAN Number: 1124
To: CHRIS HARRIS Date: 08/17/93 1:27p
Subj: kodak photo CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thanxs for replying can you use negatives on those or do you have to have a
roll of film?
Beth
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From: BETH CORRIGAN Number: 1125
To: DIANE PENCIL Date: 08/17/93 2:51p
Subj: kodak photo CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thanxs for the suggestion dianne hmm im wanna get one made before christmas
for my mom do you know if they can do it with the negatives?
Beth
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 1126
To: GARY JOHNSON Date: 08/18/93 12:08a
Subj: CD-ROM GAMES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Sorry Gary, I am sorry I can't buy the game from you since I just went and
bought 7th guest and that was my CD-ROM game for a while and my dad will not
buy me another CD-ROM game for a while, so I am really sorry. thanx for
answering and C-ya
Ashwin
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 1127
To: KEN POIRIER Date: 08/18/93 12:16a
Subj: 7th guest Refer: NONE
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Hey Ken, I just got that game for 59 bucks and so far it has been only puzzles
but I just started playing the game 2 days ago and I have only solved the
first 3 puzzles(hard), I think Virgin designed this game for people to get the
game and go insane trying to solve some of the puzzles, anyway I am really
amazed by it and the SVGA graphics are really great. well if you decide to
buy, I think its a great game. C-ya
Ashwin
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From: JANUSZ SUROWKA Number: 1128
To: JOE HAYES Date: 08/16/93 11:49a
Subj: CD-Speedway Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
no, CD-ROM
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From: EDWARD FOSTER Number: 1129
To: GENE EHRICH Date: 08/17/93 5:57a
Subj: Wanted cable texel - pas- Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Gene,
Saturday August 14 1993 07:51, Gene Ehrich wrote to All:
GE> I need a cable to go between mr Texel CD-ROM and my PAS-16?
No, but if ya call MediaVision, they'll get one out to you second day for a
mire $23.00 for the cable/driver kit...I bought one a year ago and that was the
price then...I think this has become a popular setup and the price may have
fallen by now...Best bet is to give them a call so you end up with the designed
cables...You'll recieve both the audio & SCSI cable plus drivers.
Edward Foster, " The Oasis BBs "
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From: STEVE PESANT Number: 1130
To: DON RIEB Date: 08/18/93 9:17a
Subj: Re: CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Howdy Don:
DR> You must have read the message where I was helping somone out with what
DR> CDROM door to get for PC-SIG. I used to have it up on
DR> my system with CDCOM
DR> but took it down right away to replace it with a CDROM that I could import
DR> into Renegade my BBS software. I know all about the licensing but thanks
DR> for looking out for me.
You are welcome...Sorry about the mix-up though <grin>
-=Cheers=-
Steve.
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From: STEVE PESANT Number: 1131
To: ALL Date: 08/18/93 9:19a
Subj: COMMERCIAL SOFTWARE ON SHAREWARE DISKS? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello there:
I just about finished setting up my own BBS. However, I want to be sure
about a couple of things>
I currently have Night Owls 8.0 and Night Owls 9.0 on my BBS and I've
heard of many commercial games on the disk...So what I would like to know is
DOES ANYONE KNOW OF ALL OF THE COMMERCIAL GAMES ON THESE DISKS?
I prefer to be safe than sorry...Wouldn't want to be distributing
Commercial games on the BBS..
Thanks ahead of time.
-=Cheers=-
Steve.
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From: BEN BARTON Number: 1132
To: LUCIANO MUNHOZ Date: 08/18/93 12:43p
Subj: Mitsumi Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LM>
LM>Could anybody, please, give me some techinical specifications about
LM>CD-ROM drives?
LM>
LM>Regards,
LM>Luciano Munhoz
LM>
LM>--- FMail 0.94
LM> * Origin: Hi you! I'm here!!! (4:801/49.52)
LM>
What kind of infor do you need?
Ben
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From: MARK WOMACK Number: 1133
To: TOM GUELKER Date: 08/19/93 1:37a
Subj: Cd-rom Help! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi TOM,
DC> Why not take a listen to your audio CD's on your computer? Hook it up
DC> to a decent sound card, and use MCS Stereo as the software interface,
DC> and you'll be throwing your audio CD player out the window fast! I'm
TG> MCS Stereo is a commercial program, and is well worth the cost. You
TG> might be able to find it locally. I recommend it over anything I've
TG> seen. It needs Windows, so hopefully you have that. It beats anything
TG> I've seen hands down!
Since the audio portion of the CD ROM drive is handled entirely by
the drive itself, how can a piece of software make it sound better?
This puzzles me.
... Computers make very fast, very accurate mistakes.
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From: JOSEPH GAWLIKOWSKI Number: 1134
To: ALL Date: 08/18/93 12:06a
Subj: CDROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anybody know approximately what read-write cdroms cost? And exactly
what are the advantages of a Scuzzy type CDrom? Any info would be
appreciated...Thanks....Joe.
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1135
To: DOUG BARTHOLOMEW Date: 08/17/93 1:17a
Subj: DOWNLOAD OUR CATALOG!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DB> I called your BBS on 8-10-93 and made a connection at 14.400. I was in
DB> the middle of downloading your catalog, when something happened to drop
DB> the carrier. I have made several attempts to call back and cannot get a
Not sure, but it's probably line noise. Haven't had any unusual connect
problems, but the high-speed connections are very sensitive to line
noise, so that might be it.
Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1136
To: GUILHERME MOURA Date: 08/17/93 1:18a
Subj: CD PACKAGE DEALS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GM>MS> House of Games
GM>MS> Game Arena
GM>MS> ----------
GM>MS> $35
GM>MS> SPECIAL BONUS: Powerpak Gold 3.0 Revised Edition only $4 w/ purchase!
GM>Do you send it for Brazil ? How much with the Mail Tax ?
Airmail insured to Brazil would be $14.00. Air mail / non-insured
would be $6.00.
Hope that answers your questions! 8)
Later,
.\\ike
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VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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* SLMR 2.1a * Perot of Borg: Resistance? Now that's just sad.
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1137
To: STEVE PESANT Date: 08/17/93 1:18a
Subj: CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SP>It may have been something do do with the Pier Versions 1.0 and 2.0 and
SP>something else..(I'm sorry to be such a nuisance but my mind is going <grin>
Haven't advertised any Pier1/2 packs + another disc, but Pier 1 and 2
together would run you $55.00.
SP>are not much use <grin>.. I hear the Monster Disk 1993 isn't too bad...Any
SP>thoughts on that disk?
Excellent CD, but not full. Around 450 megs. We have those at $33.
SP>How much are the disks right now for Night Owls 5.1 and 6.0....It probably
SP>odesn't hurt to have the whole series...They are pretty decent...
Night 5 is $21, and 6 is $22.
SP>Thanks alot for your help .\\ ...Oh before I go...What are COD Terms like
t
SP>be shipped to Vancouver Area... And have you released a new product catalog
SP>since the last update 6/1/93?
Sorry, but we can't ship COD to Canada. We can take VISA/MC/AMEX/DISCOVER
or prepayment by money order or bank check in U.S. funds. You can download
our current catalog from the BBS at 509-457-0206.
Later,
.\\ike
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* SLMR 2.1a * We now return to our regularly scheduled flame-throwing.
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1138
To: STEVE PESANT Date: 08/17/93 1:18a
Subj: MORE CD'S ON SALE! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SP> MS> STARVECTOR CD-ROM BLOWOUT SPECIALS!
SP> MS> Shareware Overload..$10 Windows 93..........$21
SP> MS> SoundWAV............$24
SP> MS> Deathstar Arcade....$10 Shareware 93........$18
SP> MS> House of Games......$20
SP> MS> Ham Radio 3.0.......$10 Sound Sensations....$10
SP>Anyways. Windows 93 ---Is that pretty much like the CD-WINBOX ROM or not?
A fair amount of duplication, but much more attention to detail on Winbox,
with better and more accurate file listings and file selection.
SP>Umm Shareware 93 - What disk is this like...Is it a heavily DUPED Disk? How
SP>large? BBS READY? I'm looking for MULTIMEDIA DEmos, Music and DEmos and
SP>Games...Always looking for NEW Stuff ChEaP $$$ <grin>
All gone with no more coming.
Later,
.\\ike
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* SLMR 2.1a * Odo, is there any more jello in the fridge? Odo? Odo??
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1139
To: ALL Date: 08/17/93 1:19a
Subj: PRECISION MAPPING UPDATE! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TITLE: Precision Mapping v 1.5b **UPDATE** (Improved city search)
DESCRIPTION: A complete, detailed map of the United States, with search,
edit, draw, and print capabilities. ZOOM in on any city, right down to
the zip code, area code, or even STREET! Look up addresses, measure
distances, plan travel routes, print laser-quality maps, and clip images
for import to other programs! All in a user-friendly environment! Prc $88
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs * 509-457-2966 (FAX)
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* SLMR 2.1a * Picard and Riker in '96!
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From: CHRIS CONKLIN Number: 1140
To: ERIC TREMBLAY Date: 08/18/93 4:55p
Subj: CD-ROM Disks in Canada Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Eric
Give me your address and I'll gladly send you a CD-ROM catalog. You can also
give me a call anytime at the number below. I work out of the back of my
house, thus keeping my over head way down, thus my prices!
TTYL
C-3 Production Systems
PO Box 60144
San Angelo, Tx
76906
915-944-7187 (evenings are best)
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 1141
To: DAVE SUMMERS Date: 08/17/93 6:42a
Subj: Re: CD-ROMs and DESQview Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I've opened a DOS window and tried running it from the prompt and
-> work that way either. Yes I'm running a music CD and everything work
-> first, but the moment Front Door reinitializes the modem, or if the p
-> rings, or if I do anything else it freezes up - sometimes to where I
-> reboot. It happens when I run any Sound Blaster-related file too. I
-> QEMM message stating that I need to allocate more environment for DMA
-> not sure how to do that since I don't have the docs for QEMM anymore
-> the almighty divorce shuffle).
-> I'm sure it's a conflict of some sort. I use a cheap Leading Tech
-> computer. Hopefully the problem will clear up in October when I purc
-> real computer:).
Okay, What IRQ, and DRQ (DMA Cannel) do you have it set too?
Mine is at IRQ10 and DRQ5 my sound board at IRQ7 and DRQ1.
What version QEMM do you have? You may need an upgrade to 7.00 I think
is current. (I use dos5 myself :) )
Maybe even try a different CD player program. With mine you start the
CD, and can switch tracks etc.... and then exit the player and do other
things.
If when the modem inits. and gives you trouble, try changing around the
IRQ's, might be conflictinh with the modem.
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 1142
To: RUSSELL BOYCE Date: 08/18/93 7:02a
Subj: Re: Walnut Creek Releases Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Also CICA Windows will be updated next week. We do carry
>> entire line of Walnut
>> Creek.
> I have heard they are to release a CP/M CD-ROM. Could you let us know
> when it is available so those of us wanting to support CP/M users can
> purchase it.
Sure!..TTYL
GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400
1-206-473-1634 FAX
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From: RODNEY RUDD Number: 1143
To: MICHAEL KONOR Date: 08/18/93 4:34p
Subj: scsi cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
How many of the external units do you have? Is this a commercial sale, or
used? Thanks.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1144
To: ALL Date: 08/16/93 3:22p
Subj: APPLE II CDS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have 5 copies of the "Facts on File" Apple II Freeware/Shareware CD-ROM disc
available - these include drivers for the Apple SCSI card, and several hundred
programs.
$20, shipping included IF prepaid.
5420 North College Avenue, suite B5
Indianapolis IN 46220
(317) 726-1980 voice
11 AM - 8 PM Tues and Thurs
11 AM - 5:30 PM Weds and Fri
All times Eastern STANDARD Time
* SLMR 2.1a * Trombonists do it in seven basic positions.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1145
To: STUART CAMERON Date: 08/16/93 9:13p
Subj: CD-ROM AND SBPRO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>BO> Stuart, the SB is a propreitary unit and will support Panasonic.
>Hmm. Is there any particular type of Panasonic CD ROM, or are all of them
>(that's if there's more than one) compatible with SBPro?
Panasonic makes drives with more than one different interface - the SB Pro will
only work with one or a very FEW SPECIFIC Panasonic model(s).
* SLMR 2.1a * Cats are smarter than Dogs - get 9 Cats to pull a sled!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1146
To: VICTOR HEALEY Date: 08/17/93 1:29p
Subj: MISTUMI/SB/SBPRO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Point well taken. It seems to me that I read recently (August Magazine or
>paper) some audio card maker was going to release a special version of their
>card with a Mitsumi interface rather then a scsii interface.
ATI and (Gravis or Galaxy?) already have released such cards.
* SLMR 2.1a * WINDOWS: It's not "crippled", it's "differently abled"!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1147
To: BILL GEE Date: 08/17/93 1:33p
Subj: MSCDEX/DRIVERS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>MSCDEX.EXE is the module that fools DOS into thinking that the ISO 9660 format
>CD-ROM is really a DOS format disk. Normally it is provided with the driver
>set for your interface card, but it is also available as part of DOS 6.0.
MSCDEX is rarely included with the drive - it is NORMALLY bundled as part of
DOS.
* SLMR 2.1a * Something so strong could carry us away....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1148
To: BILL GEE Date: 08/17/93 1:34p
Subj: $50 CD DRIVE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>If these drives are selling as fast as you say at around $200, there is no
>incentive for the price to go lower. I think that CD drives will go no lower
>than about $150 at the low end.
I've seen remaining stocks of the Mitsumi 600ms drive at $130 or so.
>I predict that the really nice double-speed
>and quad speed SCSI drives will drop to $300-400 eventually
Panasonic has a double-speed non-SCSI for $249 NOW local street pricing....
* SLMR 2.1a * Put the Cat out? But it's NOT on fire!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1149
To: MARIO DI MAMBRO Date: 08/17/93 1:37p
Subj: 240 DISK CHANGER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> JH> I have the latest info of a drive which can handle 1,000 cd's!!!!!!!!
> I don't want to sound arrogant, but the hell could use 1000 cd's.
Large corporations or anyone involved in high-volume-data stuff like geographic
surveying. Not intended for individual usage, of course - but I CAN picture
Event Horizons or other such HUGE BBSs eventually working their way up to a
1000 disc carosel - in the next 3 years.
* SLMR 2.1a * Politically, fashionably, and areodynamically incorrect!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1150
To: DALE A COOK Date: 08/17/93 3:13p
Subj: PERSIAN <-----> ENGLISH Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Remember those IRANIANS are on the U.S. Government'S EMBARGO LIST:
>I beleive it's against the law to do buisiness with them!
I seem to recall some loosening of that during the Gulf War....
* SLMR 2.1a * "First shalt thou pull out the Holy Pin"
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1151
To: RALPH PENG Date: 08/17/93 6:05p
Subj: INTERNET Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>hwo to download a file from internet? thanks
Try asking in the UFGATE echo.
* SLMR 2.1a * Paratime Elevator - when it HAD to be there Yesteryear!
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From: BOBBY POSEY Number: 1152
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/18/93 4:36p
Subj: NEW BUSTY BABES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hay Boris,
Their was something said about starting an ADULT_CDrom echo here a while
back. I am very interested in polling for it if you know if someone has
started it yet.. Also if I could find someone that carryed CDrom_Sale and
the adult one that would be perfect..
It seems as though you get started talking about something and it carrys on
you just start another echo about it.. I am wondering when someone is going
to start an echo for hair fetishes and RUBBER BABY BUGGE BUMPERS...
Bobby
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From: GARY SHADE Number: 1153
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 08/16/93 10:11p
Subj: INTERNAL HOOKED EXTER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Brice Fleckenstein say to Gary Shade on the subject of INTERNAL HOOKED
EXTER
BF>A single Mitsumi will NOT load a typical PC 200 watt power supply
BF>down enough for it to work properly.
BF> This pair DOES classify as a "total mismatch"....
Yes - you are right. The power supply wattage was not mentioned in the
original post. Thought it was one of those custom stand alone cases
containing a supply to drive only one CD-DRIVE.
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From: GARY SHADE Number: 1154
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 08/16/93 10:13p
Subj: * X-RATED CD-ROM * Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Overheard Brice Fleckenstein say to Gary Shade on the subject of *
X-RATED CD-ROM *
BF>>JR> Is there any X-Rated CD-ROM with animals ?
BF>
BF>>Why would anyone want to see animals going at it???
BF>
BF>I think that "JR" was asking for a CD-ROM with pictures of a human
BF>and an animal performing sexual acts, aka "beastiality"....
Naw! Come on. Why would an animal want to have sex with a human?
--- WM v2.05/93-0084
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From: STEVE PROCTOR Number: 1155
To: SEAN EAGAN Date: 08/14/93 11:24a
Subj: Re: *wanted! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Sean Eagan to Steve Proctor <=-
SE> Steve
SE> On your 4 Toshiba CD-ROM's! Lemme have your Phone and
SE> we'll discuss a payment on them! I don't wanna rip you off nor offer
I can be reached after 6:00 PM PST at 916-641-6904. Thanks for the
response!
Steve
... Have FUN on all Fours - Go 4-Wheeling!
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From: PETER GRECI Number: 1156
To: ALL Date: 08/17/93 5:05p
Subj: Virtual Vallerie Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Any of you folks carry the XXX CD called Virtual Valerie? if so how much and
what are the minimum system requirements?
Thanx
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From: PETER GRECI Number: 1157
To: ALL Date: 08/17/93 5:06p
Subj: CD Duplicators? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Anyone out there duplicating their own CD's? What is your current rate? can you
accept Streaming Tapes and output to CD and make Dupes? Whats the price of this
Service? Thanx folks.
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From: JEFF PATTEN Number: 1158
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 08/17/93 9:26p
Subj: Re: Magnto-optical disc Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
->> A MO drive has a "write head" that consists of two parts. The
->> first is a magnetic head which spans the entire radius of the
->> disk. This is used to set the magnetic polarity of the bits,
->> one bit at a time. Since the media is affected by this field
->> only when it reaches it's "Curie point", the laser is used to
->> heat the media at the proper bit positions. The Curie Point is
->> that temperature where the material is affected by a magnetic
->> field (very simplistic definition). The sequence is as follows:
->>
->> The magnetic field is set to write 0's. The laser is used to
->> heat the media at ALL positions where bits will be changing.
->> This writes 0's to all changed locations. The field is then
->> set to write 1's (opposite polarity). The laser heats the
->> media at all bit positions that should be written as 1's. This
->> is a write-twice situation when writing 1's, and a write-once
->> when writing 0's. That's why they are so much slower writing
->> than when reading. Reading only takes 1 pass. BTW, I may have
->> the sequence backwards (1's first, 0's second), but the
->> principal is correct.
HP> That's what I have read in SEVERAL magazines, and a couple guys
HP> told me I was crazy! Thanks for backing me up!
Basically what I have read also.
HP> I didn't think a magnetic 'beam' was possible either, but
HP> that is the way they described it...
MO drives use a laser *beam* and a magnetic *field*. Are you sure you
don't have these mixed up?
Jeff
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From: RANDY JOHNSON Number: 1159
To: GIL GOLDFINCH Date: 08/18/93 9:31p
Subj: CDROM DRIVER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Does any body have the drivers for scsi interface for the PAS16. My
-> NEC CDROM didn't come with them. And I need them to play audio CDs on
-> it. Thanks in
All the drivers are on the MediaVision BBS (510-770-0527). That's
where I received my new drivers...
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From: RICH RUBIN Number: 1160
To: ALL Date: 08/18/93 9:28a
Subj: Questions... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Greetings All,
It's been a week since I sent out my last message and I've goten
exactly ZERO answers. This leads me to believe that my message didn't
get out.
Can anyone tell me some info on the cdrom 'JUTLAND'? Is it good,
bad, or what...
If a cd player is 'rated' at, say 600 megs, and I put in a 700 meg
cdrom, will the player 'read' the disk? I've been following this
conference for awhile and this issue has not been dealt with [I
think...].
I'm selling my MicroSoft 'ENCARTA'. I'll part with it for $125.
First come, first served...
Rich
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From: LOUIS SOKOL Number: 1161
To: BOB HALL Date: 08/19/93 12:05a
Subj: A NEW IDEA ! Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
BH> Bob Hall
BH> Moderator
BH> --- TMail v1.31.5
BH> * Origin: General Store TBBS - OKC, OK (405)943-8638 (1:147/31)
I noticed that you send out of a TBBS board. I run a TBBS board in the Houston
area and would like to put a CD on the system. Are there any tricks to
interfacing the CD? Did eSoft or a third party vendor supply any special
software for this? Are you using TDBS with custom programming? I sure would
appreciate some details before I take the plunge! Thanks.
* SPITFIRE v3.3
* Database Connections BBS * Supporting dBASE, Clipper, and More!
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From: JAY COREY Number: 1162
To: STEVE PROCTOR Date: 08/18/93 7:07p
Subj: Os/2 & mitsumi Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
According to the August Issue of OS/2 Professional magazine MTD in
Albany NY 800-382-2512 carries OS/2 drivers for Mitusmi at $49.00
plus shipping. They want to know Drive Serial #, IRQ, DMA and ADDR when
you order.
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From: NEIL BERGMAN Number: 1163
To: MARK THORNTON Date: 08/18/93 12:30p
Subj: CATALOG Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Mark,
If you leave me your mailing address I can send you a catalog. I have
lots of titles and real cheap prices.
Thanks,
Neil
* RM 1.0 * Eval Day 1 * RoboMail -- The ultimate QWK compatible message manag
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From: DYLAN GORDON Number: 1164
To: TERRY WOOD Date: 08/18/93 10:52a
Subj: Re: MORE CD'S ON SALE! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TW> and then have airmailed to me. Can you give me an
TW> idea of some prices please? I am interested in Art
TW> discs (Gif discs etc) and any Amiga/PC discs that you
TW> may have.
A company in the US (Walnut Creek) sells Gif's Galore, 6000+ CD images..
it's 25 dollars US.. You can phone Area Code (510) 674-0783 for information on
shipping. I don't know how youd phone that number from where you are but for
me it's 15106740783.
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From: DYLAN GORDON Number: 1165
To: ALL Date: 08/18/93 10:54a
Subj: CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Can anyone recommend a good CD with GIFS?
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From: ED YEE Number: 1166
To: CARLOS BENITZ Date: 08/18/93 7:20p
Subj: Mannals CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
EY>I've got the Mammals CD-ROM and it doesn't quite
EY>work. The requirements
CB> I was exactly where you are, last week. I had no instructions
CB> with my disc. I tinkered around and discovered that, if I
CB> removed the mouse from the AUTOEXEC.BAT, MAMMALS would tell me
CB> that no mouse had been detected and that I should type + to use
CB> the keyboard. Now, when i want to use it, I remove the mouse
CB> driver, reboot, and do it this way. I don't know why the mouse
CB> driver doesn't work with MAMMALS, but that seems to be the case.
CB> I also had a wee bit of trouble with the sound. It comes through
CB> the headphone jack (faintly), not the soundcard/speakers.
I did something a little different and it worked. I downloaded a new microsoft
mouse driver and installed it and it's been working fine ever since. BTW, the
mammals CD uses CD sound to left and right speakers if you have it connected to
a stereo system and you won't get any sound from the sound card. if you use a
music CD player, you can play the voices and animal sounds from the CD. I'm
currently trying to figure out a network of wires and connectors that would
allow the CD-ROM drive and the sound card to share a single audio line going
to my new speakers, so I won't have to keep switching the plug around. I've
almost got everything figured out (cost me about $10-$15) except I don't know
what will happen, say in windows when an audio cd is being played and the sound
card tries to play some sound at a system event. Don't really want to watch my
CD-ROM controller and my sound card to be shootin sparks (8-D.
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From: MDM2 Number: 1167
To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 08/14/93 9:14p
Subj: Re: $99 cd rom drives Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TB> Special.... for 1 week I'm offering used Hitachi 3500 internal cd rom
TB> drives for $99. I have about 20 left. 30 day warranty included.
TB> 205-824-2552
Do the cd rom drives come with the interface card, software, & docs?
... Multitasking = screwing up several things at once.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
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From: ARNIE GROSS Number: 1168
To: DON HANCOCK Date: 08/17/93 11:46p
Subj: FontMaster CD Library Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Don -
14 Aug 93, Don Hancock writes to Arnie Gross:
DH> Are these TT fonts? ATM? both? Actually I'm only interested
DH> in TT, but $18 isn't too bad.
I've never used these fonts myself, but I assume that the file format
is ATM compatible. If you are interested, you can find out for sure
from Eagle Systems (805-529-6992), the publisher of the font collection.
If it helps, the AVANTE GARDE font file directory consists of two
subdirectories, with "Landscape" fonts in one and "Portrait" fonts in
the other. The AVANTE\LAND directory includes four files for each point
size in the directory (4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 14, 15, 18, 21, 22,
24, 30, 36, 42, 45, 48, and 60) which would appear (from their filenames)
to be regular, bold, italic, and expanded.
As an example, here is the data on the four Avante Garde 60 point
Landscape font files:
AG600RPN.USL 228269 01-06-92 7:32a
AG600BPN.USL 237017 01-06-92 8:53a
AG600IPN.USL 262240 01-06-92 9:57a
AG600XPN.USL 272444 01-06-92 11:13a
In other words, the Avante Garde font is represented on the CD by no less
than 168 files - 84 Landscape orientation, and 84 Portrait orientation.
DH> PS: you left none of your own info...
Arnie Gross
182 Pine Hill Road
New Fairfield, CT 06812-2208
(203) 746-1195 (M-F, 9-5)
or 746-1727 (eves, weekends)
- Arnie :+}
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From: WAYNE DEJULIA Number: 1169
To: ED YEE Date: 08/19/93 12:21a
Subj: CD-ROM Cache Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
norton speedcache is excellent...I can finally play wing commander at a
reasonable speed!
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From: MICHAEL HAJOVSKY Number: 1170
To: CHARLES HART Date: 08/17/93 8:30p
Subj: Re: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Charles Hart to Andrew Barfoot <=-
CH> the message stream and found it needing some tempering - if you
CH> dislike the new rules, you have the simple option open to any of us
CH> who disagree with the moderator: You may leave the echo. Period.
Hear, Hear. I am all for it. If you disagree with the prohibition of
free speech just leave the country, or be removed from the society.
Now, since we have democrats in the White House the rule should apply
against republicans subversive speech, as well as against the free CD
discussion subversives in the CD_Echo.
AB>Who was it that said...
>"I DISAGREE OF WHAT YOU SAY, BUT WILL DEFEND TO THE DEATH YOUR RIGHT
>TO SAY IT"
It is the official policy of the pinkie loving, subversion instigating
American Civil Liberties Union. It does not belong in the CD_Echo.
Period. ;-)
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From: DON ROBINSON Number: 1171
To: MICHAEL BERNSTEIN Date: 08/18/93 4:10p
Subj: SPACE QUEST HELP... Refer: NONE
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I did change the quote in SQ4 to text, but it still was locking up on
me.. Thanks for trying to help, though..
Don
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From: TOM CZACHOR Number: 1172
To: ALL Date: 08/18/93 3:57p
Subj: SMS 3 & ROMBRAIN Refer: NONE
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Does anyone have a filebase for So Much Shareware 3 and Rombrain I could
FREQ?? I just got the disk and haven't found a filebase yet.
thanks
>>tom<<
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From: ANDREW LARMOUR Number: 1173
To: ALL Date: 08/16/93 11:32p
Subj: Photo-CD Drives Refer: NONE
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Hi to all...
This is for the general information for anyone interested. Currently
Kodak lists the following CD-ROM drives as Photo-CD compatable (for PC
systems):
- Single Session
Chinnon CDX435
Texel DM3024(int)
Texel DM5024(ext)
Toshiba TXM3301B(int)
Toshiba TXM3301E1(ext)
NEC CDR-73(int)
NEC CDR-83(ext)
NEC CDR-36M(ext)
NEC CDR-37(int)
NEC CDR-74(ext)
NEC CDR-84(int)
Sony CDU535(int)
Sony CDU6205(ext)
and
- Multi Session
Mitsumi CRMC LU005s(int)
Gen STAR 5000i(int)
Sony CDU31a(int)
Sony CDU561
Toshiba TXM3301BSP(int)
Toshiba TXM3301E1P(ext)
Toshiba TXM3401 E1P1000(int/ext)
Pioneer DRM 604X/600(ext)
Procom PiCDS(int)
Procom PxCDS(ext)
Panasonic CR562
NEC CDR-74-1
NEC CDR-84-1
The recommended minimum configuration to access "BASE x 16" images (the highest
resn. images stored in the .pcd file) i s:
- 486 processor
- 20Mb RAM
- 25Mb free HD space
- DOS 3.3 or later
- Windows 3.0 or later
- 16.8 Million colour card (24 Bit)(Optional)
- S-VGA or higher monitor (Optional)
and its just as frightening if you're a Mac user. To access "BASE x 16"
images, the minimum recommended configuration is:
- Mac IIci processor
- 32Mb RAM
- 30Mb free HD space
- System 6.0.5 or later
The CD-ROM drives which Kodak list as being Photo-CD compatable for the Mac's
are:
- Single Session
Apple SC Plus (ext)
Apple CD150 (ext)
NEC CDR-73 (ext)
NEC CDR-83 (int)
NEC CDR-37 (ext)
NEC CDR-74 (ext)
NEC CDR-84 (int)
Sony CDU-541 (int)
Sony CDU-6211 (ext)
Sony CDU-7211 (ext)
and
- Multi Session
Apple CD300 (int/ext)
Toshiba 3301BSM30Z0 (int)
Toshiba 3301E1m30Z0 (ext)
PLI CD-ROM (Unsure of exact model number)
NEC CDR-74-1
NEC CDR-84-1
If anyone has questions about Photo-CD, Pro Photo-CD, Photo-CD players
or transfer services here in Melbourne (Aust), please call me
on (03) 818-2600, or preferably, mail me here...
Hope this has answered some questions.
Andrew Larmour
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From: TONY STOTT Number: 1174
To: DANIEL SIGMUND Date: 08/18/93 8:24a
Subj: Re: Cd-rom Games Refer: NONE
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On 08-14-93, Daniel Sigmund elucidated to Travis Campbell:
DS>Try Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego?, espically if you have a
DS>sound card hooked up.
You should hear it with a Soundblaster Pro (for sound Fx) and a Sound
Canvas (for music)! What a combination! Awesome!
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 1175
To: DIANA KIRKSEY Date: 08/18/93 6:34p
Subj: Re: new mpc specs Refer: NONE
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Hi Diana!
On 08-15-93 Diana Kirksey wrote to Rowan Evans...
DK> RE> GM> By the way,what's that about 640*480*65,535 cols? A SVGA card
DK> RE> GM> is still 256 or am I confused here?
DK>
DK> RE> You're confused.... An SVGA card with 1Mb on it is capable of
DK> RE> displaying 65,536 colours in 640x480 resolution in Windows....
DK> RE> SVGA is basically anything over a 64Kb VGA card (640x480x16)....
DK> RE> and that includes the additional colour depth.....
DK>
DK> I have a Trident 1Meg SVGA card and it's capable of having app.
DK> 262,000 colors(1024x768x256 are the specs).You can also install the
DK> windows driver for smaller(something like 640x800 or
DK> something,can't remember exactly) but you still get the
DK> full 256 colors.You need to have the actual card driver
DK> installed though,not just the "VGA" they have in the
DK> Windows setup.
At the risk of being off-topic (is the MPC Level 2 spec off topic??)....
A 1Mb SVGA card is capable of the following maximum colour depths at
the undermentioned resolutions :-
640 x 480 x 16.7 million colours
800 x 600 x 65,536 colours
1024 x 768 x 256 colours
Just because your card doesn't have drivers for these maximum colour
depths doesn't mean that some cards (my ATI Graphics Ultra Pro for
example) don't come with all the necessary drivers.
The way the MPC Level 2 spec was worded (640 x 480 x 65,536 colours)
may have been confusing for some people, so I added the stuff in
parenthesis about it requiring a 1Mb SVGA....
Hope this clears things up for you!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 1176
To: SAM JONES Date: 08/18/93 6:40p
Subj: Panasonic BenchMrk Refer: NONE
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Hi Sam!
On 08-16-93 Sam Jones wrote to Rowan Evans...
SJ> I finally went ahead and purchased a Panasonic 562-b drive last
SJ> week. Well I got it up and running in no time and it seems fast
SJ> to me (as I have never used a CD-ROM drive before I
SJ> expected it to be real slow, but I don't find it slow at
SJ> all really). Anyway I just want to make sure that my drive
SJ> is running correctly (optimum speed), so I thought I'd ask
SJ> you if these bench mark number seem ok. (I hope you have
SJ> the Animal MPC.<g>)
Sorry, but no, I don't have this CD (yet!)....
SJ> When running the CDTEST program included on the Animals CD using the
SJ> file SDZV014.AVI (syntax: CDTEST \MOVIES\SDZV014.AVI) I get the
SJ> following results:
SJ> Double Speed Mode
SJ> Max Seq.- 1,059,031 bps Random- 464,372 bps
SJ>
SJ> Normal Mode
SJ> Sequential- 1,049,822 bps Random- 449,560 bps
SJ>
SJ> These numbers seem to be very good (well above the 300k
SJ> mark) but I am a little worried about why the results are
SJ> so similiar for both Double and Normal data read speed
SJ> modes.
How did you select "Normal" mode?? Did you put the (?? I think its /N or
/L switch) required switch in the SBCD.SYS line?? I don't know the test
program you refer to.... Maybe it THOUGHT it turned slow speed on, but
didn't!
BTW, The 7th Guest install gives a transfer rate of between 548Kbps (my
486DX2/66) to 621Kbps (a 486DX/33 in the local computer store!) for
SB16 ASP attached CR562B/CR563's....
The thing is, if it plays an Audio CD fine, then the 150Kbps mode is
working properly and who in h*ll wants to run at 150Kbps for data
anyway??
Cheers!
o
/U\
SJ>
SJ> If you could compare these results and answer and enlighten me I'd
SJ> appreciate
SJ> it very much! Well, at least the drive is fast enough for
SJ> me no matter what the results mean.
SJ>
SJ> Thanks, Sam
SJ>
SJ>
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SJ>
SJ>
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 1177
To: ARNIE GROSS Date: 08/18/93 6:43p
Subj: Re: Panasonic CD-ROM dri Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
Hi Arnie!
On 08-15-93 Arnie Gross wrote to Rowan Evans...
AG> RE> download from Creative Pacific BBS (02) 906-8392 the file
AG> RE> CDR562.ZIP (all the necessary CD-ROM drivers and software)
AG>
AG> Does this include an OS/2 driver?
Nope, its just a straight .ZIP of the CD install disk from a CD 16 MM
kit plus a Photo CD driver for the 52x series drive!
There was a Windows NT driver there (CDNTINST.ZIP) but I can honestly
say I wasn't looking for an OS/2 driver and can't say that I saw one!
Sorry!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 1178
To: GIL GOLDFINCH Date: 08/18/93 8:21p
Subj: Cdrom Driver Refer: NONE
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Hi Gil!
On 08-14-93 Gil Goldfinch wrote to All...
GG> Does any body have the drivers for scsi interface for the
GG> PAS16. My NEC CDROM didn't come with them. And I need them
GG> to play audio CDs on it. Thanks in advance
If you are able to access CD-ROMs in your NEC CD-ROM attached to the PAS16,
then what you need is :-
1. If DOS, find a copy of Night Owl 7 CD-ROM and use the CDPLAYER
on there...
If you don't have the audio out of the CD-ROM connected to the
sound card, you'll need to cable from the headphone socket of
the CD-ROM to the line in socket of the PAS 16.
2. If Windows, install [MCI] CD Audio in the drivers section of
Control Panel. This file is on one of the issue disks for
Windows 3.1. If you only have Windows 3.0, upgrade it!
Once [MCI] CD Audio is loaded, you'll need to do the cabling
as listed above....
Let me know how you go!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 1179
To: JOEL DUMAS Date: 08/18/93 8:31p
Subj: Re: 16 bit cards Refer: NONE
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Hi Joel!
On 05-15-93 Joel Dumas wrote to Yves Desjardins...
JD> YD> I just bought the Multimedia Pro16 II from Media Vision.
JD> YD> The bundle contains the ProStudio16 sound card, NEC CDR84
JD> YD> (internal, multispin, multisession) plus 10 CD'S. I would
JD> YD> recommand this sound card to anyone who wants to buy a 16
JD> YD> bits sound card. It is fully compatible with the sound
JD> YD> blaster,
Yes, but *ONLY* the 8 bit SoundBlaster!
JD> YD> the sound quality blows you away and it has a
JD> YD> standard SCSI interface built-in on the card.
Standard SCSI-1, with a S.L.O.W. 680Kbps max transfer rate! Although this
*DOES* cope quite adequately with CD-ROM drives....
BUT! You'll *NEVER* be able to attach a bootable SCSI hard drive as the
PAS SCSI ha has no BIOS and operates in polled mode *ONLY*....
JD> YD> The SB16 ASP is also a 16 bit card, however I don't believe
JD> YD> the CDROM interface built-in is a standard SCSI, therefore
JD> YD> you limit yourself on which drive to buy later on.
Why worry when the Panasonic CR562B/CR563 CD-ROM drive is so available
and so cheap??
JD> How much did the package cost you?
Joel, whilst the PAS 16 (and Pro Studio) are nice cards and are, IMHO,
better than the SB 16 (and SB 16 ASP), the price penalty to buy one
with a fast CD-ROM drive compared to the Creative Labs CD 16 MM kits
is just not worth it!
For a current price of $1190.00 (oops.. pre budget - add an additional 1%
sales tax! <g>) the CL CD 16 Edutainment kit is a much better value than
any SCSI kit (and from the spex, I'd say Yves' cost him in the vicinity
of $1,500.00).... Ask yourself is it worth spending $300.00 for a slower
CD-ROM drive and better sound card??
A dealer tried to interest me in a PAS 16/Texel... They wanted over
$1300.00 for the combo and, (they also sold the SB kit!) when SHOWN
the speed of the CL kit in the install to The 7th Guest, all they
could do was gibber! But, but, but, I can still hear them say!
Hope this helps!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 1180
To: DON KULHA Date: 08/18/93 8:41p
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
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Hi Don!
On 08-15-93 Don Kulha wrote to Brice Fleckenstein...
DK> > Note. All of the high end high-performance drives
DK> > intended for commercial or heavy-duty service use caddys.
DK>
DK> BF> Not any more - Panasonic's recent offerings include
DK> BF> double-speed drives that are caddyless.
DK>
DK> I stand by my statement. The Panasonics don't fit into the
DK> serious use catagory. They are for casual use by consumers
DK> and not for commercial or heavy duty service. There still
DK> are no caddyless drives in that catagory.
Why?? Are you using "heavy duty" CD-ROM drives?? The MTBF spex for
caddy and caddyless drives are similar... and when you look at the
high end NEC drives, they're using motorised eject for their caddy
so the mechanics are similar! (And they have to open a shutter!)
DK> >I wouldn't consider using a caddyless for my BBS
DK>
DK> BF> I refuse to put up with those caddy-type single-disc
DK> BF> monstrosities. I can
DK> BF> BARELY tolerate caddies on multi-disc changers, as
DK>
DK> So be it, but I run 7 cd's 24 hrs a day 7 days a week and
DK> wouldn't consider a caddyless drive for my application.
You've stated your opinion..... I'm interested and responsive, but
I need *FACT* not *OPINION* before I'll change my stance from
recommending caddyless drives...
Seeya
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 1181
To: RUSSELL BOYCE Date: 08/18/93 8:43p
Subj: Walnut Creek Releases Refer: NONE
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Hi Russell!
On 08-15-93 Russell Boyce wrote to Ismail Arslangiray...
RB> > Also CICA Windows will be updated next week. We do carry
RB> > entire line of Walnut Creek.
RB>
RB> I have heard they are to release a CP/M CD-ROM. Could you
RB> let us know when it is available so those of us wanting to
RB> support CP/M users can purchase it.
The Walnut Creek C Users Group Library has a lot of older CP/M files
(source code included!) on it.....
Just thought you'd like to know!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 1182
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 08/18/93 8:52p
Subj: Mistumi/Sb/Sbpro Refer: NONE
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Hi Henry!
On 08-15-93 HENRY PAUL wrote to MARK WOMACK...
HP> Okay, this jack IS for the speaker wire. It sends the sound from the
HP> SB to the internal speaker. This is ONLY if you do not have external
HP> speakers. (it just ruins the sound when it goes through the puny
HP> thing)
According to my SB16 ASP manual, JP11 is an *INPUT* connector, with
+5V on pin 1 and data on pin 2.....
o
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From: MARK DIGNAM Number: 1183
To: TERRY WOODWARD Date: 08/17/93 7:12a
Subj: Cd Rom mastering... Refer: NONE
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Terry Woodward of [1:369/14] once typed in a message to someone:
MD>I can produce HFS disks on a Philips CDD521 CdRom Recorder. Its quite
MD>easy - when you write your own software. Mind you, I do it on a PC
MD>based platform.
TW>Ok. Can you restore a RetroSpect format, 8mm Exabyte tape?
No problem, provided you include the 'info' file created by the 'braindead'
RetroSpect program. Seems you can't reliably restore a tape WITHOUT the
directory info stored within the data file.
I may be wrong, or setting something up wrong, but I do know that once I get
the data file (on floppy) from a client and drop into the RetroSpect folder,
all the files magicly appear on the screen!
The only difficulty I see, is that I am located in Perth, Western Australia,
which could make the job a bit too long for you. I would have NO problems in
doing it for you, (nobody knocks back work!) but I sure you could get the same
thing done in the US, a lot faster.
Mark..
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From: PETER LANE-COLLETT Number: 1184
To: SHAUN RADER Date: 08/18/93 2:54a
Subj: Mscdex Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message on <Aug 13> at <11:40>, Shaun Rader of (1:218/101) writes:
SR> ->Which version should I use ? The one that came with the CD-ROM, the on
SR> ->in DOS, or the one in Windows ?
SR> Hmmm, if you have DOS 6, I'd use that one. Basically, just look at the
SR> date and version number and choose the newest. But I think DOS 6's
SR> MSCDEX is the newest.
You should the one that comes with DOS 6 if you have DOS 6. MSCDEX21 came out
for DOS 5 and MSCDEX22 came out for DOS 6. You may find some software doesn't
work if you don't use the correct version.
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From: DAVID HARRISON Number: 1185
To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Date: 08/19/93 3:46a
Subj: Re: New Echo - Multimedia Refer: NONE
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IA> I have started a new echo area called MULTIMEDIA
IA> I will do the initial feeding, if you like to get linked, please send a net
IA> mail and I will start feeding your node.
IA>
IA> MULTIMEDIA Echo Coverage
IA> ------------------------
IA> CD-ROM Players
IA> CD-ROM Titles (Including adult)
IA> Sound Cards
IA> Multimedia Authoring Systems
IA> Replication
IA> Industry News Press Releases
IA> and any other MultiMedia related topics
IA>
IA> This echo also can be ported to any other sister nets and RIME.
There is an echo with the exact same name in SBCNET, and I was wondering if
it is the exact same echo?
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From: SCOTT FORTIN Number: 1186
To: MARTIN ROODENBURG Date: 08/19/93 2:07a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Help!!! Refer: NONE
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Ok, I had the same problem with my mitsumi. It would play musical CD's, but
that was it. All I had to do was install the other CD driver, instead of
using the MSCDEX, I used the MSDES file, and that made my cdrom work fine.
Just remove what you had to install when you first installed it(the software)
and re-install it using the other option they gave you. This should clear
up your problem. Hope this helps.
Scott
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 1187
To: RODNEY RUDD Date: 08/19/93 2:03a
Subj: Re: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
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BO>> Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit - $195.00 NEC36 Ext SCSI
BO>> Complete-$269.00
>>
>> Will the NEC36 Ext SCSI work with a Macintosh?
Yes it will work!
Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy
to assist you further.
Boris Osadciw
... I married the Mail Lady!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 1188
To: DAN POLIVY Date: 08/19/93 2:03a
Subj: Re: red hot summer Refer: NONE
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>> Boris,
->> >> Do you have OS/2 2.1 on CD?
->>
->> On it's way in here !!!
>> How much will it be?
>> Thanks.
>> Dan
It's in stock now and is priced at $95. with the FREE upgrade.
This is the full blown version with the manuals in cd and all.
So, if your interested, please give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime
and we'll be happy to discuss it further.
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 1189
To: ROEL SARCENO Date: 08/19/93 2:03a
Subj: Re: A new Idea ! Refer: NONE
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>> Hi All,
>> Here's an idea. What about if all or several CD ROM
>> distributors will send a file (price list) to a certain node.
>> For this example we will assume a node address of 1:9999/9999.
>> Node 1:999/9999 will process the file and update a data base
>> that contains the 5 or so lowest prices. Once this is all set
>> then all of us can send an echomail to node 1:9999/9999
>> (Address to CDSERVER) and the text message will be the name
>> of the cd rom. When node 1:9999/9999 receives a mail and the
>> to field is address to (CDSERVER) then, it will read the text
>> and search the database. A response will be made by node
>> 1:9999/9999 via echomail that contains the info of the 5
>> dealers that has the lowest price and the date the price was
>> inputted in the data base.
It's already been done and went over like a lead balloon in a wind storm.
Many dealers here, myself included, did send catalog after catalog to
one system for request and it finally broke down simply because users
still requested dealer after dealer to send them a price list.
Nice idea, but it didn't fly before and I can't see it doing it on the
secound try.
Boris Osadciw
... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 1190
To: RICK COOKE Date: 08/19/93 2:03a
Subj: Re: Virtual Sex Disk Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> I saw a show on HBO featuring a CDROM that was a Virtual
>> Reality Xrated disk. Anyone heard of this, and know where it
>> is available?
>> Rick Cooke
Only available in MAC not IBM!
Hope this helps...
Boris Osadciw
... Happy as a Pig in Mud!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 1191
To: GENE EHRICH Date: 08/19/93 2:03a
Subj: Re: Wanted cable texel - pas- Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> I need a cable to go between mr Texel CD-ROM and my PAS-16?
>> Anybody got one to sell?
Yep, in stock and priced at $15.
Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy
to help you further.
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 1192
To: BOB HALL Date: 08/19/93 2:18a
Subj: Re: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
>> Boris, you are surely aware that the topic of adult discs is
>> banned from this echo. I will appreciate your refraining from
>> openly violating the guidelines in this echo. I highly
>> suggest you read messages in this echo from Mr. Tony Davis.
>> In the future, your compliance witht the guidelines will be
>> greatly appreciated.
>> Bob Hall
>> Moderator.
Not a problem Bob, but we didn't post any ad's for the above. Could it be
a simply reply we did that you threw your hammer down on?? If that's the
case, not a problem as well.
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... Pioneering Off-line Mail Technology!
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From: BRENT LYNCH Number: 1193
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 08/15/93 9:42p
Subj: Re: Cd-rom Games Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Ashwin Bihari to Travis Campbell <=-
AB> Hey thanx travis, I will really look into Wing Commander II, how much
AB> did you pay for that game yourself? now that I think of it I don't
AB> really want to buy 7th guest, I shall spend that money on games like
AB> Wing Commander II. thanx and C-ya
AB> Ashwin
I would HIGHLY recommend that you DONT get the Wing Commander II Deluxe CD,
as its hampered by incredibly slow access times (even on the fastest of
CD drives, disk accesses can still take up to four minutes compared to
mere seconds on a hard-drive), far better bets for CD games are the
LucasArts CD rom games like Day of the Tentacle for instance, although
I would skip Loom (Great music and good voice, but way too easy), Kings Quest
6 is far superior to Kings Quest 5 also.
... The Swiss Cheese effect: Brought to you by the National Dairy Board!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
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From: SAM JONES Number: 1194
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/19/93 5:04p
Subj: Panasonic BenchMrk Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE> How did you select "Normal" mode?? Did you put the
RE> (?? I think its /N or
I selected the mode with the Creative program CDSETUP that came with the
driver disk.
RE> The thing is, if it plays an Audio CD fine, then the 150Kbps mode is
RE> working properly and who in h*ll wants to run at 150Kbps for data
RE> anyway??
Yeah, I would not want to run the data at that speed but I just wanted to
make sure that I was using the double-speed mode (remember I have never used or
seen another CD-ROM drive before).
All of my progrmas run OK except for one problem and it is a noticeable one
though. When playing either the KQ6 CD or DOTT CD there are pauses in the
Video and Audio (WaveBlaster and FM synth) whenever the CD is accessed. The
audio pause is usually not very noticeable but with the audio you can hear the
music slow-down. There is never any "break-up"in the digitized speech though
(which seems to be most people's problem.
Have you ever experienced this and can you offer any advice on how to correct
the situation?
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 1195
To: DAVE SUMMERS Date: 08/18/93 5:29p
Subj: Re: CD-ROMs and DESQview Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I tried your number on the tag-line and it said it is out of order.
Do you have a recent number that I can call?
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From: MICHAEL OLANDER Number: 1196
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/17/93 10:16p
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On August 16 1993, Boris Osadciw babbled to All about CDROM SYSTEMS:
BO> *************** C D - R O M D R I V E P R I C E S ***************
BO> Texel Int 340ms Bare Dr - $245.00 LIMITED
Could you tell me more about this drive? I'm looking at the moment, and this
is the best price I've seen for a Texel.
Thanks,
Michael
\\\ FMQuote 1.31
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From: ERIC VANEBERCK Number: 1197
To: MAHMUT KURSUN Date: 08/12/93 7:57p
Subj: CDROM sellout. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Mahmut,
I replay to you in echomail because i can't fin 2:241/4 in the fidolist
:-(
>> I am interested in receiving one of your catalogs. Please
>> send one to the following address:
>> Eric Vaneberck
>> Chee de Hannut 26
>> 1370 Jodoigne
>> Belgium
MK> Why dont you ask me? Shipping from Germany to Belgium is cheaper than
MK> shipping within Belgium.
I agrea so send you list to me please.
Best regards,
Eric
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From: MARTIN WINTERBERG Number: 1198
To: ALLE Date: 08/15/93 12:33a
Subj: S: CD ROM fuer Notebook Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
An alle,
wer kann mir sagen, ob es eine Moeglichkeit gibt ein CD ROM Laufwerk an meinen
Notebook Rechner (486 SX, 25 MHZ) anzuschliessen.
Dockingstation ist leider nicht lieferbar. Mein Rechner hat eine serielle,
eine parallele Schnittstelle und einen PS/2 Tastaturanschluss.
Evtl. mit Bezugsquellenangabe.
Danke...
.../\/\ artin
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From: NICK PETKOVICH Number: 1199
To: MILES HARTIGAN Date: 08/13/93 3:10a
Subj: Re: CDs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Miles Hartigan to Nick Petkovich <=-
MH> Why bother as the prices are not that different from local UK prices
MH> after including the delivery and charges? Also, you are not going to
MH> have any easy form of redress if you encounter problems.
Not true. I paid about £40 for 2 CDs. (Pier 2 and NO9) ive not seen
anywhere in the UK for less than 35 each.
<< Nick >>
... "Yield to temptation, it may not pass your way again." - L. Long
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From: MICHAEL M Number: 1200
To: STEPHEN EATON Date: 08/11/93 8:44p
Subj: Re: CD-Rom Problems Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Stephen Eaton to All <=-
SE> The problem is that it won't detect a disk change. So I have
SE> to reboot every time I want to change a disk, talk about a pain :-(
SE> I'm using the Adaptec 1542 controller and all the associated
I had this problem, using a 1540. Removing the jumper from the auto sense
disable (J6, pin 5) has cured it!
Michael
... Slightly burned out, but still smokin'.
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From: CHRIS FLYNN Number: 1201
To: JERZY FARYNSKI Date: 08/04/93 7:10p
Subj: Photo CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JF> Can anyone tell me whether Creative Labs' Matsushita CD-ROM 521 can be
JF> made Photo CD compatible?
JF> Are any drivers required and, if so, are they available in Australia?
Yes it can. Single session only. The driver is available on the Creative
Labs BBS in the US. I don't know if they have an Australian BBS.
... This is no ordinary fool you're dealing with.
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From: KEN KNIGHT Number: 1202
To: POE LIM Date: 08/12/93 9:52a
Subj: Cd Rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> The CR562B goes either way - you can get it with its own controller
>> or use the SB Pro/SB 16/SB 16 ASP to control it....
> Any drivers for OS/2 yet?
If this is the slow one that everybody seems to have that
goes on the SBPro2, then drivers ARE availible from the OS/2 support BBS.
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From: INA STERK Number: 1203
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/15/93 11:39p
Subj: did you get it? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Mike,
On August, 7th, I sent you a fax (ordering Night Owl 9.0).
Did you receive this fax?
Thanx,
Greetinx,
-= Ina =-
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From: JAN MARTEN ERIC ELZINGA Number: 1204
To: SIMON MACKAY Date: 08/15/93 1:05p
Subj: Pioneer CD-ROM changers Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Simon!
08 Aug 93 15:55, Simon Mackay wrote to All:
SM> If you do need magazines for these drives, check your local hi-fi dealer.
SM> If they sell Pioneer CD changers (which play 6 CD Digital Audio discs from
SM> a magazine) for home use or for car use, they should sell the magazines
SM> for these players.
Aren't they the same? I thought they had the same sign as the Audio magazine
(you know the 6 O's)
SM> Bye. Simon.
Bye,
Johan
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From: GERARD KONNING Number: 1205
To: HAROLD LEDUC Date: 08/16/93 7:56a
Subj: Deep throat Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Harold, about the CD-ROM you said:
-> THERE was a movie by that name I don't think it on cd but it could
-> be?
I would like to know if that CD-ROM is based on the film as a game or is
the same film put on a CD-ROM..... It's totaly new on the market (for 6
weeks now) and I'm curious.
Greetz, Gerard
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From: KLAUS PETER FELL Number: 1206
To: EZYCOM Date: 08/15/93 11:10a
Subj: CONFIG Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DROP 165
DROP 165
ADD 190
ADD 171
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From: ALAN EDWARDS Number: 1207
To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 08/06/93 1:13p
Subj: Re: test Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Doug Carpenter to Darrell Crone <=-
DC> this is a test if you recieve this please send me a reply...
DC> Thanks
DC> Darrell
I wonder if this is the furthest it went..... Chesterfield, England via
Dog and Duck BBS, Hull.
Any advance on England?
Alan.
... Stealing is illegal: our government hates the competition!
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 1208
To: DAVID HARRISON Date: 08/20/93 8:31a
Subj: Re: New Echo - Multimedia Refer: 3665
Read: NO Private: No
-> IA> I have started a new echo area called MULTIMEDIA
-> IA> I will do the initial feeding, if you like to get linked, please
-> IA> mail and I will start feeding your node.
-> IA>
-> IA> MULTIMEDIA Echo Coverage
-> IA> ------------------------
-> IA> CD-ROM Players
-> IA> CD-ROM Titles (Including adult)
-> IA> Sound Cards
-> IA> Multimedia Authoring Systems
-> IA> Replication
-> IA> Industry News Press Releases
-> IA> and any other MultiMedia related topics
-> IA>
-> IA> This echo also can be ported to any other sister nets and RIME.
-> There is an echo with the exact same name in SBCNET, and I was wonder
-> it is the exact same echo?
It probably is if he creates echos the same way he creates CDs.
tim
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From: PAUL WHITE Number: 1209
To: ED YEE Date: 08/18/93 8:31a
Subj: RE: Mammals CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message to Paul White written on Sunday, August 15, 1993 at 10:52:16
PM, Ed Yee writes:
EY> YEAH!!!! I got it working. It turned out to be the mouse driver. It
EY> was too old. So I downloaded this new microsoft mouse driver and it
EY> works like a charm. Thanks for all your help.
Glad you got your problem sorted out. The Mammals disk is pretty good.. I
like the little movie clips, and the sound effects.
p.s. for some real jungle noises, play track 4 on a regular CD player!
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From: KEN BACHMAN @ 930/1 Number: 1210
To: STEVE THOMAS Date: 08/18/93 8:02p
Subj: Re: 7'th Guest Won't Run! ! ! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
ST> I tried that. I also tried the upgrade, changing the sound card setup,
ST> increasing my CD buffers, changing hardware straps, and much more. I f
ST> put it on the shelf until October when I plan on replacing my mother b
ST> with a 486-66 and getting the doublespin CD-ROM drive.
ST> Thanks for the help,
ST> Steve....
Alot of people have had problems with their vesa drivers for their
graphic cards when trying to run T7G. You may need an updated version
of the vesa driver for your specific card. A friend bought the game and
it would not run, he had the Trident 1mg SVGA card. I had a newer card
with later drivers and once he loaded the new one everything ran great.
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From: WANDA KATO Number: 1211
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/18/93 7:08p
Subj: CD-ROMS WANTED Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Boris,
-> I have seen others requesting your catalog and I would also like a
-> copy. Thanks
Wanda Kato
-=-
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From: STEVE OELHEIM Number: 1212
To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Date: 08/19/93 12:56a
Subj: CD Winbox $12 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
IA> We are liquadating the following disks:
IA> CD Powerbox $12
IA> CD Winbox $12
IA> Night Owl's v9 $21
Ismail... what is included on CD Winbox? Thanx.
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From: SCOTT DAVIS Number: 1213
To: ALL Date: 08/19/93 8:11a
Subj: MITSUMI 16-BIT CARD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Anyone know if the 16 bit controller card works with the LU-002S? and if so,
how much is it and where can I get it? (The 002S came with an 8bit card)..
l8r,
Scott
MR/2 1.52 NR How do you make Windows faster? Throw it harder!
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From: SCOTT DAVIS Number: 1214
To: STEVE PROCTOR Date: 08/19/93 8:11a
Subj: OS/2 & MITSUMI Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SP>Does the Mitsumi CDROM drive work with OS/2 2.1? I need a driver for it if
SP>there is one available. Anyone know where I can get it?
You need to get a driver from a company in Germany.. (excellent driver.. works
great with my LU-002S).. Check the OS/2 hardware echo for more info.
l8r,
Scott
___
* MR/2 1.52 NR * Dogs crawl under gates, software crawls under Windows!
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From: LOU PETRALIA Number: 1215
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 08/17/93 2:05p
Subj: CD-ROM GAMES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Ashwin Bihari to Lou Petralia <=-
AB> Hey thanx Lou, how much did you pay for that game? I saw that game
AB> somewhere but did not pay too much attention to it, what are the specs
AB> required to run that game, and also can I use a SoundBlaster 2.0(mono)
AB> for sound, and are they VGA or superVGA graphics. C-ya
AB> Ashwin
Well without sounding too much like a commerical. There a mail order
place up the road from me, and you can just walk in and pickup software
out of his ware house (or room is more like it) so I got the game for
under $45. As for running the game, I was running it on a 386/25 with
4 meg of memory, a 1 meg video card (tsng400 chip) with a veas driver
loaded and a Misumie cd drive. The game supports all sound cards and
during the install it will prompt you for the irq and all that stuff,
so you shouldent have any problem with your SB, it requires 2 megs of
EMS. The CD version I got came with a clue book included and the CD
contained some great demos of new games comming out. If you do decide
to get let me know how you like it (between the laughter). Oh BTW the
original Maniac Mansion game is included in the game, you don't have to
play it but it is in there, shows you how far we've come in 5 years.
... It got better when the Swedish Bikini Team came.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
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From: JURRIE HOBERS Number: 1216
To: DON RIEB Date: 08/14/93 1:02p
Subj: Re: W.O.R.M. DRIVES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Don Rieb to Joe Walsh <=-
DR> MAXTOR 800MB OPTICAL WORM DRIVE: $323 Factory refurbished internal
DR> full hight drive. Requires Corel driver software or the Ten-X OC-100
DR> caching controller, brand new: $234 This controller connects between
DR> the SCSI host adapter and a WORM drive, providing cache and driverless
DR> operation. An LCD display indicates status and disk space, and push
DR> button control panel sets ID. Lists for $795. Brand new Maxtor 800MB
DR> WORM cartriges are $119. SaveWare: 708-657-1160
Do you sell this ??
If so, do you ship to Europe??
And what is the TOTAL cost of is then....
DR> ** Don Rieb **
DR> -!- Renegade v07-17 Beta
DR> ! Origin: FREQ or DLOAD CDROMCAT.ZIP from 708-724-2427 10Gig
DR> (1:115/724)
Please let me know!
GreetinX!
Jurrie!
... ....My other pc is a Pentium TM.....so don't bother me with it!!....
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From: RICK BYERS Number: 1217
To: ALL Date: 08/18/93 9:18p
Subj: Audio CDs on CD-ROMs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone know where I can get some good text files or a book that
would tell me how I can Instruct the CD-ROM drive to play an audio CD? I have
programs that will do it but I'd like to expand on these and have had troubles
telling MSCDEX to play it. Well thanks alot,
Rick Byers
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From: ROB MCINTYRE Number: 1218
To: GAVIN MCCONNON Date: 08/19/93 5:54a
Subj: FredFish (Amiga) Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Yeah, it's called "The Fred Fish Collection Online" and is manifactured by:
Hypermedia Concepts Inc.
5200 Washington Ave, Suite 224
Racine, WI
53406 USA
(414) 632-3766
(414) 632-3983 FAX
All files are LHARC or LHA (Available in either single file or disk) and the
programs are filed in different directories, so it's bbs ready.
At last look, it cost $69.95 american (Postage and handling not included) but
is available by subscription (Call them for more info).
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From: ROB MCINTYRE Number: 1219
To: JOSEPH GAWLIKOWSKI Date: 08/19/93 6:04a
Subj: CDROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
The Pinnacle RCD202 CDROM Maker costs $5670 canadian with $55 for blank media
(Check with your local dealers) and makes IS0-9660 standard roms, ready for use
on most drives or mass production. It's available in both Mac and IBM.
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From: TROY NOYES Number: 1220
To: BILLY BATTON Date: 08/18/93 3:02p
Subj: PRICE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BB> Does any one Have prices on Adult Cd-rom Disk?
BB> --- WM v3.01/93-0070
BB> * Origin: DreamScape Online Systems, Lakeland Fl. 813-858-3065
BB> (1:3635/10.0)
I received a comprehensive listing from HKS TECHNOLOGY GROUP. Their
information voice phone number is 214-275-6162. I have the catalog FALL
1993 Volume 1, Number 3. I hope this gives you a lead. Troy.
... If you're not the lead dog, everything looks the same!
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From: TROY NOYES Number: 1221
To: SHERRALYNNE DEWHIRST Date: 08/18/93 3:02p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM ENQUIRY Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SD> Does anybody know where I can get the software "Barney Bear
SD> Goes To School" and "Barney Bear Goes To the Moon" from? If so
SD> can you tell me whether it is available in IBM format or Amiga
SD> format. I've seen these two CD's advertised but other Sysops
SD> don't know whether it is IBM format or not. Please leave a
SD> message here if you know anything.
SD> Thanks very much.
SD> Sherralynne
Yes, you can get BARNEY BEAR GOES TO SCHOOL and BARNEY BEAR GOES TO
SPACE from HKS TECHNOLOGY GROUP. VOICE Info 214-275-6162 and ORDER Ph
800-521-6162. Also, DAK Industries carries various CD titles for
awesome prices, but not BARNEY BEAR. Check out their BBS at 818-715-7153.
Have a Great Day!
Troy.
SD> --- WM v2.06/92-0693
SD> * Origin: WELCOM BBS NZ WC3.5 04-380-8310 [V32B V42B]
SD> (3:771/370)
... If you're not the lead dog, the view can be very interesting!
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From: MARLIN ROWLEY Number: 1222
To: ERICK GROWCOCK Date: 08/08/93 11:49p
Subj: too slow Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Yes, RAM will help your system speed up. Maybe even drastically. It
won't increase the speed at which your CD-ROM drive seeks or transfers
information, but it will help your system performance. I also have a
350ms 150k CD-ROM drive and sometimes it seems slow to access, but I
know that that is the speed of the CD and not my system. Don't expect
a CD to run at the same speed of a hard disk (12 to 19 ms) or move data
at that speed. I guess we have to wait till the future for that kind
of data transfer!
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From: MARLIN ROWLEY Number: 1223
To: ANTONY WUTH Date: 08/16/93 4:15p
Subj: WANTED: Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Anthony,
I use MCI's Cd Audio. I don't know what version of windows you have but if
you want my version, I am more than willing to give it to you.
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From: MARLIN ROWLEY Number: 1224
To: SHAUN RADER Date: 08/16/93 4:21p
Subj: Mscdex Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
If you have DOS 6.0, then use the MSCDEX in the DOS directory. Otherwise, use
the one that came with the CD-ROM.
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From: MARLIN ROWLEY Number: 1225
To: NIGEL ZETT Date: 08/17/93 3:03p
Subj: Explain Sound Cards to me Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Well, sound cards are sort of complicated to explain. I'll try to
generalize everything. First, you want a sound card that can handle
16-bit data. So a 16-bit sound card will suffice. However, because a
sound card says it can sample in 16-bit doesn't mean the CPU can handle
16-bit data. Check to see what kind of processor you have and how fast
it's CPU clock rate is. TRUE CD quality is 44khz in 16-bit stereo
sound. Most 16-bit sound boards can sample and playback TRUE CD sound
however, there is a small catch..... signal-to-noise ratio. If your
s-t-n ratio is very low, then you have the best clarity when playing
back the smapled sound in CD quality. The higher the number, the more
noise on playback. MIDI is easy. Most sound boards offer the FM
synthesis (like you said) and the sounds are based on a noise frequency
to emulate a basic sound instrument, however this is not practical when
recoring actual musical data. So you get a synthesis that has sampled
sounds for instruments on the motherboard. This gives you the best
quality of instrument sounds. The WaveBlaster is such a motherboad, as
well as the TurtleBeach sound card. I don't know if the PAS 16 offers
a daughterboard or not. All in all the runners up are: (1)
SoundBlaster16, (2) PAS 16, (3) TurtleBeach, (4) Gravis' UltraSound (by
the way, it's not TRUE 16-bit "playback") (5) Any of the other 8/16-bit
sound boards that can record in 16-bits but only playback in 8-bits.
It all depends on what you want to use the sound board for.
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From: MATTHEW HORBUND Number: 1226
To: DIANE PENCIL Date: 08/16/93 5:39p
Subj: Making a PhotoCD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> BC> does anyone know how i can get photo cds made or where i can get them
>> BC> made. also if anyone has the phone # of kodak please post it! thanxs
>> BC> for any info!
> That's a good suggestion. Beth might also try Wallmart. Our WallMart
> offers this service for about 1.25 a picture.
I live in New York, and there's a place in the Empire State Building (where i
work) called SHOWBRAN PHOTO, that does them! It's $1.50 a picture, plus 9.95
for the disk! Takes 2 days!
Matthew
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 1227
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 08/18/93 3:15p
Subj: Police Quest 4 (CD-ROM) Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey Henry, I also am a Sierra fan and am really looking forward to
buying the CD-ROM version of Ploice Quest 4. you see i get the
InterAction magazine, the sierra magazine and they had a review about
police quest 4 and man does it look good. I have to really get this
game, well I hope the price is affordable, C-ya
Ashwin
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 1228
To: ALL Date: 08/18/93 3:18p
Subj: Lightning CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey all CD-ROM users, does anyone out there use Lightning CD, a cache to
speed up CD-ROM, or any other cache, if you do does it really speed up
games, if so please tell you how much you paid, what are the specs
required to run it and what games for CD-ROM have you run on it and
notice the difference.
Ashwin
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From: DON RIEB Number: 1229
To: RICK COOKE Date: 08/17/93 4:52a
Subj: Re: Virtual Sex Disk Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 15 Aug 93 07:55:40, Rick Cooke said the following to All...
Regarding: Virtual Sex Disk
RC> I saw a show on HBO featuring a CDROM that was a Virtual Reality
RC> Xrated disk. Anyone heard of this, and know where it is available?
RC>
RC> Rick Cooke
I saw that one too, it was called Virtual Vallery and you had to go out
and find here then pick her up and bring her back to her place for a
romp. It had real good digitized speach where she would tant you to
do things to here. I am wandering the same thing though, how to get
ahold of the author or publisher on that one.
** Don Rieb **
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From: DONALD WEN Number: 1230
To: SHAUN RADER Date: 08/17/93 12:49p
Subj: Re: 7th guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I wrote to Shaun Rader,
->>Hmm. Doesn't the patch fix T7G_124.EXE (or T7G-FIX.ZIP zipped) adds S
->>compatibility? Second, I have a Compaq Deskpro 4/33i with QVision vid
->>controller and 512K VRAM (upgradeable to I meg) built onto the
->>motherboard, and got 100% video test. BTW, QVision is fast under DOS
->>and Windows. Adds VESA driver and the game runs fine.
Shaun replied,
SR> Well, T7G_124.EXE does give support for S3, but the text files
SR> says that it only gives support in MCGA mode. If you have
SR> compared The 7th Guest in MCGA and SVGA modes.. you'll NEVER
SR> want to go back to MCGA. I called long distance to get that
SR> fix (although it was in the same state) and was a little
SR> disappointed. But, at least it fixed the Sound Blaster problem
SR> I was having.
I have my share of video problem. Without the VESA driver, the screen looks
squished and streaky, with sound coming out normally. After several calls to
Virgin's BBS, Jeff from Compaq, who also plays the game, recommends that I
download a VESA driver from Compaq's BBS. After getting SP0499.ZIP and
extracting CPQVESA.EXE, loading it up and the video problem is fixed.
SR> You got 100% with 512K VRAM? I guess that QVision IS good
SR> under DOS (don't know about Windows). I have a 1 MEG VRAM and
SR> I got 2% :(
With my Deskpro 4/33i 512K VRAM, I got about 11 million Winmarks in VGA mode
with Winbench 3.11 and the latest Windows driver from Compaq, version 7.33.
QVision was fast when it came out last year, beating even ATI's Graphics
Ultra. But now the latest generation of VL cards seems to beat the hell out
of QVision. (Grumble, grumble, :-( ) All S3 cards are optimized for
Windows, but in DOS they fall behind. In the meantime, I'll wait for QVision
part 2, probably PCI-based. Now that's a screamer. ;-)
SR> Oh well, it's not THAT slow, but I wouldn't mind getting 100%
SR> on the test.
BTW, what card are you using now?
DONALD WEN
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From: ROEL SARCENO Number: 1231
To: BOB HALL Date: 08/18/93 9:19p
Subj: A NEW IDEA ! Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
Bob
BH>I am trying to explain this as easy as possible, without causing prob
BH>Anyway, if you get your idea working, please let me know. It might w
BH>time.
I appreciate your option. Will let you how it turns out.
Roel
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From: DIANA KIRKSEY Number: 1232
To: NICK VONRUEDEN Date: 08/19/93 7:28a
Subj: RE: CD Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Hi Diana,
> I was wondering if you could send me a catalog?
>My adress is below.
Heheh...Sorry,but I'm not a reseller/dealer,you must have me mixed up with
someone.
bye,
Diana
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From: CARLOS BENITZ Number: 1233
To: DAVE SUMMERS Date: 08/19/93 10:17a
Subj: CD-ROMs and DESQview Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
13 Aug 93 16:32, Dave Summers wrote to HENRY PAUL:
DS> won't work that way either. Yes I'm running a music CD and everything
DS> works fine at first, but the moment Front Door reinitializes the modem,
or
DS> if the phone rings, or if I do anything else it freezes up - sometimes to
DS> where I have to reboot. It happens when I run any Sound Blaster-related
DS> file too. I get a QEMM message stating that I need to allocate more
DS> environment for DMA. I'm not sure how to do that since I don't have the
I've never tried a music CD in my drive because I have a dedicated stereo.
Your troubles occurring when the modem initializes or when the modem receives a
RING suggest that your modem (or comm port) is clashing with the drive or the
SB. If you have the SBPro, as I do, run the program in the SBPRO directory
called TEST-SBP. It will test your sbp and may direct you to whether the
problem is an address, interrupt or DMA conflict.
QEMM's error message should advise you what value to set the DMA buffer to.
I'm running v6.x and mine does. Then add at the end of the QEMM line in your
CONFIG.SYS the command DMA=whateveritsaid.
I'm also having troubles with QEMM, DV, Mitsumi, SBPro, and Diamond Speedstar
Pro. I get garbled files in SUPERSTOR when I access the Mitsumi. When I run
the DMA test of SBP, it crashes on the DMA -- *unless I remove SUPERSTOR from
the CONFIG!* If that is the only change I make, it will work. SB technical
support is clueless because Superstor is software only and the DMA should refer
to hardware, so SuperStore shouldn't effect SB's DMA! Maybe it's a problem
between the test program and superstore? I think things are complicated by the
videocard because the problems weren't there before I installed that, and often
when I reboot, the system has crashed so hard that I have to wait 4 minutes
before it will startup. Good luck!
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From: CARLOS BENITZ Number: 1234
To: BOB HALL Date: 08/19/93 4:02p
Subj: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
16 Aug 93 08:51, Bob Hall wrote to All:
BH> CDROM_SALE echo still permits the topic, take it there, or better yet,
BH> SOMEONE step forth and create an adult echo just for that topic. That
BH> way, the local and federal authorities could find you all with just one
BH> phone call, and you could have the chance of a life time to learn about
BH> local and federal laws.
There is no violation of US federal law in talking about or buying/selling
adult books, magazines, films or cdroms.
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From: CARLOS BENITZ Number: 1235
To: TRAVIS CAMPBELL Date: 08/19/93 3:54p
Subj: Kings Quest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
16 Aug 93 02:53, Travis Campbell wrote to HENRY PAUL:
TC> have the hardriver version of KQ6! So whats different in the cd-rom
TC> version?
I didn't get any manuals with my cdrom version.
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From: CARLOS BENITZ Number: 1236
To: SAMSON LUK Date: 08/19/93 3:58p
Subj: BBS Door for CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
13 Aug 93 15:45, Samson Luk wrote to Jim Lambert:
SL> Maximus can create DOOR.SYS and YES, I am currently using EZ-ROM v1.2.
SL> However, as I mentioned in my previous message, the problem is EZ-ROM
SL> doesn't support Maximus's LASTUSER.BBS - i.e. EZ-ROM will not update
Why do you use a door with Maximus? Can't you just add the files.bbs to your
Files.ctl?
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From: MICHAEL KONOR Number: 1237
To: ALL Date: 08/19/93 2:48p
Subj: scsi cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SCSI CDROMs For Sale:
Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM External $200.00
Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM Internal $180.00
Works great on MS-DOS, OS/2, Amiga, and Mac. Features 50 Pin True SCSI,
300ms access, 156k transfer, newest EPROMs installed, and 64k Buffer.
Service Center Refurbished. MPC Compliant. Warranty
205-837-5053 anytime.
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From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 1238
To: MARTIN ALBERT Date: 08/18/93 1:14a
Subj: Sound Blaster 16 Vs 16asp Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> On the SB16ASP there one more chip than on the SB16. This is the
-> only difference between the two cards. The ASP chip is a
-> programmable chip that software can use to do special things like
-> voice reconition, sample mixing (in a mod player for exemple), etc...
I found what the ASP is and what it stands for Advanced Signalling
Technology. Its mainly a co processor that speeds up the sound
throughput. It sounds kind of useless who would plan on multi tasking
sound?
Louis
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From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 1239
To: ALL Date: 08/18/93 1:33p
Subj: 562b perfect cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I just got the panasonic 562b/sb16/kodak photo cd access from cdromacces
yesterday I didn't pay any duty or even any taxes on the merchandise so
it appears the free trade is in effect. I got the system for $425 u.s
altogether which was an excellent deal. I tried it out it was easy to
install I had the cdr562 drivers so i can plug the cdrom directly onto
the sb16 as well as the audio cables. I did some tests i used
microsofts cdspeed tester it said the kbytes per second rate was
302.9k=310000bytes which was excellent (that excludes the cache) I then
ran the cache ran sherlock holmes made sure I didn't repeat any of the
video scenes otherwise it would always load from the cache and wouldn't
give fair results and it said the hit ratio was 20% so that meant that
it made things run 20% faster so 302k+cache=362k cache plus 260ms access
time instead of 320ms. People are saying there ain't a decent cdrom
that runs fast well to tell ya the truth the 562b is perfect I don't
notice that much of a slow down only a SPLIT SECOND slow down when
accessing something. I am really satisfied with the panasonic I'm
probably one of the few in canada to have it since nobody has started to
sell it in the retail stores yet here. As for those who are getting the
mitsumi's you're making a big mistake the 562b is a turbo drive it runs
really smooth and fast for an extra $70 U.S. ($249 US) for the 562b
cdrom + interface card its well worth it for TWICE the speed better
access time, motorized tray and if you want an extra 20% more speed get
norton speed cache. Out of the 4 cd's that I have (sherlock
holmes,photo cd,family doctor,SOFT TOOLWORKS Encyclopadia) I'd say the
software toolworks encycloepadia is the best tonnes of info almost any
info that I can think of is there plus photos and a little video and
sound for major topics and that came free with the sb16. I was really
lucky to have been purchasing a cdrom at the RIGHT time if it were a few
months sooner I would of been buying a mitsumi and that would of been a
big mistake.
Louis
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From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 1240
To: ERIC HSIAO Date: 08/18/93 7:58p
Subj: PAS16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Yup. You get all that and more with the PAS-16XL. It's the greatest
-> soundcard with the best price/performance. You can spend $450 for
-> the SB 16 ASP + WB, or you can spend $325 for the PAS-16XL and get
-> great Korg wavetable synthesis with chorus and reverb, plus you get
-> the added bonus of a standard SCSI port instead of SB 16 proprietary
-> port. This means you can use the fast Toshiba 3401b with the
-> PAS-16...you have to use the panasonic with the 350ms access time
-> with the SB 16.
I would agree with you about the PAS-16XL but as for buying the
toshiba 3401b I wouldn't even consider it its overpriced. The panasonic
562b is 320ms not 350ms it can transfer 300kb/sec on the sb 16 card
using cdpseed (microsoft's cdrom benchmark) someone else out there was
saying that the benchmark tests with the pas 16+ 3401b were very poor
less than the required 300kb/sec level and why pay twice as much for a
toshiba when its the same in transfer speed. If the 562B did not exist
these past two months I'd definately buy a toshiba rather than a mitsumi
but now that the 562b panasonic is here to take over toshiba,nec,sony in
the over priced market you can't justify getting the same features and
paying twice as much when i can get 2 panasonics for the price of 1
toshiba. As for the PAS16XL why would you say the SB16 isn't as good
the PASXL can produce 16bit stereo cd audio quality sound how better tha
that can you get?
Louis
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From: MARIO DI MAMBRO Number: 1241
To: LOYD CRAFT Date: 08/12/93 11:15p
Subj: Re: Custom cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Loyd Craft to All <=-
LC> **** Digital Enterprises ****
LC> Custom CDROM Service
LC> Our CDROM Recorder is fired up, and ready to serve you! We can
LC> produce a Custom CDROM From your Tape backup, or your Hard Drive
LC> overnight!
LC> Pricing for Custom CD production:
LC> o 650 Meg: o $1 per Megabyte UP TO $144. NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE PAST
LC> 144MB o Minimum charge $90 for less than 90MB.
LC> o $55 for each duplicate after paying full price for the
LC> first.
LC> o UPS RED Label shipping is $15 extra.
LC> Terms:
LC> Prepay for service via Certified check or money order. Personal
LC> checks must clear bank before production begins. SORRY, we are
LC> not able to accept your Visa/Mastercard at this time.
LC> *** ** *** ** *** ** Special ** *** ** *** ** ***
LC> For the months of July and August, all orders qualify
LC> for a 10% discount from our CURRENT pricing. Offer
LC> ends August 31, 1993.
LC> *** ** *** ** *** ** Special ** *** ** *** ** ***
LC> * OLX 2.1 * Yes, I did try catnip - but I didn't roll around in it.
I was thinking about having this done for a while now. Just a few
questions though: 1 -How would I get all the crap on my HD to you?
2 -If I put my HD on a CD can I use it straight
off the CD the same as I do now?
3 -Can I add more to the CD until it reaches 650MB
capacity or do I have to put 157MB (my HD size) on
seperate disks every time?
... Catch the Blue Wave!
--- GEcho 1.00+
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From: EDWARD PALMER Number: 1242
To: STEVE MCKAIN Date: 08/17/93 9:26p
Subj: NEC CDR-25 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SM> I'm looking for information about the NEC CDR-25 CD ROM drive, ie:
SM> access times, reliability, and can this drive be daisy chained, that
SM> kinda stuff.
Steve, the CDR-25 is an external portable drive. It's rated access
speed is a slower-than-death 800ms., but it is fine for ordinary
shareware disc access, etc. A test program called CDTA rates its
data transfer rate as just over 150KB/s which is standard. The same
program rates it's access time as about 500ms. I don't know whether
to believe that or not. A program from Microsoft confirmed that the
data transfer rate meets MPC Level 1 specs. I can't comment on
reliability because I've only had the beast for a couple of months.
It's a caddyless unit that looks a lot like your typical audio player.
It is a true SCSI drive. The interface card is the Trantor T130b.
ASPI drivers and an ASPI manager are available from the NEC BBS.
This means that it can be daisy chained with any ASPI-compatible
SCSI device. Hope this helps.
Ed
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From: EDWARD PALMER Number: 1243
To: JOHN KORTINK Date: 08/17/93 9:28p
Subj: Loom on CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JK> (though sound sometimes stutters badly in spite of 330k/sec on my
JK> Toshiba 3401).
That's very interesting, John! I noticed the same thing and thought it
was because my player (NEC CDR-25) is rated for 800ms access. I even
tried copying the files to my hard drive and running it from there.
No difference. It must just be a poor organization of sound clips. I
noticed a really rough spot at the beginning during the scene with the
elders when the window breaks and the swan flies in. Same with you?
Ed
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From: KEN TULLY Number: 1244
To: ALL Date: 08/19/93 6:16a
Subj: Busty Ver. 1.0 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have a copy of Busty Babes Version 1.0 for sale to the Highest bidder. You
can call me Voice at 203-387-3174, Fax at 203-387-3306 or BBS at 203-387-3289.
Ken...
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 1245
To: ALL Date: 08/18/93 10:17p
Subj: Big Sky Special Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
The price on Big Sky Rom has been reduced from $48 to $26. This is a
very well put together shareware disc with 668 megs and 7155 files.
There is a file_id.diz file description in each zipped file. The date
of each zipped file is that of the largest file in the archive, giving a
much more accurate representation than that of many CD-Roms currently on
the market. Big Sky is very popular on Computer Works BBS, and can be
previewed online.
Computer Works CD-Rom Sales! (205) 793-4481 Voice (205) 671-0092 BBS
Online Credit Card & COD Orders
- JetMail v1.14 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire
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From: DALE A COOK Number: 1246
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 08/19/93 11:05p
Subj: PERSIAN <-----> ENGLISH Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Remember those IRANIANS are on the U.S. Government'S EMBARGO LIST:
>I beleive it's against the law to do buisiness with them!
BF> I seem to recall some loosening of that during the Gulf War....
However; it's presently TIGHTENED. That
NATION of IRAN is still on our COUNTRY'S list of those
SUPPORTING TERRORISM!!!!!!!!
Thankyou for your reply.
--- Maximus 2.01wb
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From: JOE SLIFER Number: 1247
To: LOUIS GHINIS Date: 08/19/93 11:37a
Subj: Advice Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LG> blaster 16 card. In the states its $180 U.S. for the mitsumi and $249
LG> U.S. for the panasonic 562b so for an extra $70 its well worth it how
Louis-
Whats the source for the 562b? Thats $30 cheaper then I've seen it. -Thank
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From: JOE SLIFER Number: 1248
To: GREG ISOKRARI Date: 08/19/93 11:53a
Subj: Magnavox cdd 461 cd-r Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GI> The newest mscdex.exe is 2.21....
Wrong. Ver. 2.22 comes with Dos6.
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From: JOE SLIFER Number: 1249
To: MICHAEL GEGGUS Date: 08/19/93 12:28p
Subj: MITSUMI DRIVES VS PANASONIC Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MG> benches at 250ms @ 330Kbps using MegaDemo CDBench......Although I bought
MG> the SB Pro seperatly from the CD-ROM I paid $129 for the SB Pro w/STW
MG> encyclopedia for Win MPC, indy 500 and Lemmings (plus other goodies) and
Could you supply that source for the SB Pro & bundeled software. -Thank
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From: DAVID M. WHITE Number: 1250
To: ALL Date: 08/19/93 12:31p
Subj: NEC CD-Rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking at a NEC CD-Rom packaged as a "Fusion 16" package. Is anyone
familiar with this drive and if so would you recommend it as a good buy?
Any information pro or con would be appreciated.
Thanks,
P.S. This is an external drive packaged with the card, speakers and 5 CD's.
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From: KEITH SPEARS Number: 1251
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/18/93 10:22a
Subj: Bibles & Religion Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Do you still have the Bibles & Religion CD for $10? Beyond the Bible,
what religions does it cover? Are there any Vedic texts, Buddhist
texts, Koran, Tao te Ching, etc.? (Bonus points for Sumerian
translations!)
... We're immortal. Join us or die.
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From: ERIC HO Number: 1252
To: STEVE MCKAIN Date: 08/18/93 8:13a
Subj: NEC CDR-25 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> I'm looking for information about the NEC CDR-25 CD ROM
> drive, ie: access times, reliability, and can this drive be daisy
> chained, that kinda stuff.
The access time is around 800ms, SCSI 1, can't be daisy chained (last one)
not reliable. (There are many many refurbished drives in North California,
$159.00 ea.) I bought 3, but 2 of them were bad again. Are they good??????
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From: DICK LECOMPTE Number: 1253
To: DON RIEB Date: 08/18/93 8:35p
Subj: Re: FREE CDROM CATALOG! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please send a catalog to :
Dick LeCompte
13 Mont Vernon Dr.
Londonderry,N.H.03053
Thanks.
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From: KEVIN MATTESON Number: 1254
To: THE WIZARD Date: 08/19/93 1:49p
Subj: Re: CDROM Drives Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Well Mr. Wizard,
The price was quoted in the original message at $175.00 for the internal and
$225.00 for the external. Price does not include controller. These are SCSI
Dirves. Price does include one caddy and a non-DOA guarantee.
If interested please include your real name in future correspondence.
Thanx K.M.
(209) 732-4800
NetMail 1:214/33
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 1255
To: STEPHEN RANSON Date: 08/19/93 9:56p
Subj: Cd-roms - Exlnt Prices Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Stephen!
On 08-17-93 Stephen Ranson wrote to All - Australian Reader...
SR> The Australian CD-ROM Club has Night Owl 9 for $69 or $62.10 for
SR> members!!
SR> Dinosaur Adventure $59, Groliers Encyc $139, Super Games 4 Windows
SR> $20.
SR> Heaps of BBS Ready CD's, Clipart, Programs, Sound, Games etc from $27
SR> Membership entitles you to:
SR> o Regular huge catalogue with descriptions of most titles.
SR> o 10% discount on all software purchases through Club.
SR> o News, Reviews, Tips and Giveaways in our regular newsletter.
SR> o Freecall (008) 811190 mail ordering.
SR> Call today to join! (008) 811190 or FAX (06)2914591, CITACT BBS
SR> (06)2928288
Sorry, you can't tempt me! I can source several of the CD-ROMs you
mention (the ones I am interested in!) from other dealers cheaper!
Plus get all of your "features" for members from other dealers! (One
in Sydney (local call) and the other in West Aussie!
All for the regular low price of $0.00 (that's right - send no money
- *NOTHING*).....
Cheers!
o
/U\
... OFFLINE 1.52
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 1256
To: GIL GOLDFINCH Date: 08/19/93 9:59p
Subj: NEC Cd-Rom Support Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Gil!
On 08-17-93 Gil Goldfinch wrote to All...
GG> I recently bought an NEC CDR55 CD-ROM but found no device
GG> driver or audio cable was included. I have a PAS16 sound
GG> card with SCSI interface built into the board. NEC support
GG> service advise that they cannot supply the audio cable or
GG> driver software unless I purchase their SCSI interface kit
GG> for about A$200.00.
Media Vision's drivers Version 1.46 for the PAS 16 *INCLUDE* the
necessary device drivers for running the NEC CDR-55 off the
PAS 16. I *KNOW* - I have this combo at work!
GG> I have managed to obtain a driver from BBS but still
GG> looking for the audio cable. Apparently NEC use a non
GG> standard cable socket on the CD drive.
Ring Chips & Bits in Melbourne.... It'll probably cost you $A10.00 or
so....
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 1257
To: MALCOLM YOUNG Date: 08/19/93 10:04p
Subj: Panasonic CR-562B CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Malcolm!
On 08-15-93 Malcolm Young wrote to Stephen Harrington...
MY> > It's a Panasonic CR-562B
MY>
MY> What is the stated capacity of these drives and will they
MY> read all of the discs that are 700+ Meg. The GIGABYTE GOLD
MY> disc has 730 Meg on it and the original
MY> SoundBlaster/Panasonic drive can only read the first 680
MY> Meg or so.
ISO-9660 cuts out at 680Mb (or so I thought!).....
If this is so, then Gigabyte Gold is *NOT* a standard ISO-9660 CD-ROM
and you'd be pushing excreta up a hill with a pointed implement to read
it on many of the currently available CD-ROM drives.... (And before I
get a rash of "it works on my BLAH BLAH drive", may I add that working
on a particular drive is no guarantee that it'll work on every drive
of that type! Witness the SONY CDU-31A I had.... I had no problems
with CD-ROMS that other CDU-31A owners reported!)....
Take your ROM to a dealer with a CR562B/CR563 and see if it works!
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 1258
To: STEVE THOMAS Date: 08/19/93 10:18p
Subj: 7'th Guest Won't Run! ! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Steve!
On 08-13-93 Steve Thomas wrote to Andrew Barfoot...
ST> AB> I had the same problem and I changed from SVGA to MCGA
ST> AB> graphics and the problem stopped straight away. Never hung
ST> AB> again...
ST>
ST> I tried that. I also tried the upgrade, changing the sound
ST> card setup, increasing my CD buffers, changing hardware
ST> straps, and much more. I finally put it on the shelf until
ST> October when I plan on replacing my mother board with a 486-
ST> 66 and getting the doublespin CD-ROM drive.
Even this mightn't work!
The *ONE* machine I had problems with running T7G is - you guessed it -
my own machine at home! This is a DX2/66 with ATI Graphics Ultra Pro
(86% optimal) and SB 16 ASP/CR562B soundcard/CD-ROM (100% optimal).
For some stupid reason T7G would do as you describe (and this setup is
pretty close to a working machine - SB16 ASP/CR563 and on-board ATI
Mach32 SVGA).... When I removed SMARTDRV and installed Norton Speedcache
as well as set T7G for SB Pro2 (OPL 3) the problem went away....
Now, after 3 hours play or so, the sound buffer fills up and kicks me
out to DOS.... (But I can at least play T7G!)....
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 1259
To: MICHAEL GEGGUS Date: 08/19/93 10:22p
Subj: Re: BEGINING... Refer: NONE
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Hi Machael!
On 08-14-93 Michael Geggus wrote to Debbie Marantz...
MG> I just purchased the 562B for $279, it cam with CD-ROM, controller,
MG> cables and drivers. I plugged it straight into the SB Pro card
MG> CD ROM I/F and audio connector. MegaDemo Benched it at 250ms access
MG> and 330Kbps.
That's interesting... it only spex at 300Kbps and 450ms in double-speed
mode!
MG> Now my Mitsumi's sitting in a box along with the extra controller
MG> for the 562B. BTW the driver that came with it was CDMKE41.sys
MG> (the driver for the SB Pro I/F) everyone in the echo say's you
MG> need SBPCD.sys or SBCD.sys, but driver seems to work just fine.
What command line parameters did you use for CDMKE41.SYS.... I couldn't
get it to work so I changed to SBCD.SYS (and it works fine!).....
MG> ... Capt'n we've replaced the Lu005 for the 562B........Warp 9 Mr.
MG> Scott
I like it.... Consider it stolen!
Cheers & Beers!
o
/U\
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From: POE LIM Number: 1260
To: NITIN GUPTA Date: 08/19/93 11:41p
Subj: Pas16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Nitin,
On Aug 15 00:11 in a msg to Poe Lim, Nitin Gupta of 1:324/293 wrote:
> I saw the Pas16 packed with a double speed cd-rom drive for $400.
> Is this about the price you saw it for?
A bit different in Australia; they cost a bit more (can't remember now what the
exact cost of the package is, I know the bare Panasonics double spin drives are
around the A$450 mark).
> Oh yeah, about the 7th Guest, grafix A+ if you have a powerful
> systm, as a game D. Lots of people have had problems with the game
> working right to.
Doesn't seem to want to work right under OS/2; get sound breakups, and it hangs
at the start of the game where you face the stairs. And this is with and
without the fix applied.
Cheers,
Poe
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From: GIL GOLDFINCH Number: 1261
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/19/93 7:07p
Subj: Cdrom Driver Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
The problem I have was not conveyed accurately as my original message was
condensed by the local 'moderator'. I have no problem with CD music thru the
headphone jack or sound through the PAS 16 sound card. What I am looking for is
the SCSI interface driver for an NEC CDR55 player and an audio cable between
the CD and sound card. Thanks for the advice though. Any further help would be
appreciated.
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From: STEPHEN RETZLAFF Number: 1262
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/18/93 12:40a
Subj: Re: Pas16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Rowan Evans to Poe Lim on 14 Aug 93 13:39:04 <=-
RE> Yeah, well, I'd like the Wave Blaster add-on for Wave Table
RE> synthesis....
PL> This is supposedly integrated in the chip itself; was
PL> speaking with a dealer (we exchange info on products) and
PL> he mentioned Computamart did mention something along that
PL> line, so......
RE> NOT in the SB 16 ASP... It only uses FM synthesis as far as I can
RE> decipher the doco!
The WaveBlaster is a full wave table synth. It is shipped as a half
length Daughter board that plugs on to the MIDI connector on only
the SB16 ASP. It has a MT32 emulation and works great with all
MIDI files. Also has full GM compliance. Bought mine in Perth for
AUS$235.
Regards
Stephen
... This tagline supports Adlib/Soundblaster/Roland MT-32
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From: ROBERT LEE Number: 1263
To: ALL Date: 08/19/93 5:49a
Subj: CDRom BBS Door!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CDMX2DOR
Beta v.99
The "Next Generation CDRom-Access BBS Door"
(c)1993 Robert E. Lee
(309)797-6027
U.S.A.
1:232/31 8:7002/3005
New Century BBS
============================================================================
A special "Thanks" to Chris Kuefler @1:3402/22Fidonet for his suggestions
and assistance in beta-testing CDMX2DOR.
============================================================================
So long, ROMBRAIN, Hello CDMX2DOR!!!
In the beginning there was CDMAXDOR, and it worked ok on some
boards but was not capable of doing some things that it should
and gave some folks fits. As a result of many suggestions from
CDMAXDOR users and other sysops, here is CDMX2DOR, a CDRom-BBS
interface door that, I believe, you'll find to be a superior
product. The latest version of CDMX2DOR is available for F'Req
at 1:232/31 as well as are a number of other doors we've written.
WHAT WILL CDMX2DOR DO?
In a word.... EVERYTHING.
Some features:
o it will work with ANY BBS software (not just MAXIMUS) that
is capable of writing a long-style (52 line) DOOR.SYS
drop-file, e.g., WILDCAT, PCB, GAP, etc. If your system
can't write a long-style DOOR.SYS, then you may still
use this software via a door conversion program that
makes long-style DOOR.SYS files.
o it will allow you to control the number of KBytes that
a user may access from your CD's in a given day so as
to prevent file leaching.
o it will allow viewing of textfiles and will unarchieve
zips for viewing as well.
o it will automatically update MAXIMUS BBS user's files
to reflect their CDRom downloads. Other boards' auto-
updating of user's download stats is not yet supported
but will be (for registered users).
If you are a Maximus BBS sysop, it will:
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* Origin: Searchlight City BBS (1:283/420)
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From: ROBERT LEE Number: 1264
To: ALL Date: 08/19/93 5:52a
Subj: CDRom BBS Door!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
o it will allow users to download files from your CD or
HD with ease, search for files or text, and allow your
users to unzip files on the CD for reading text files
and other docs in zipped files.
o it will add your BBS comment/advertisement on outgoing
files.
o it will also allow you to put your C: drive (HD) files
within its structure for use, so CDMX2DOR can even be
used as a complete drop-in files-transfer system working
with CDRom drives and Hard Drives. Tape drive interfacing
may be supported in future versions to registered users.
If you want to squeeze every possible drive for online
files for your users, you can even have CDMX2DOR access
files off your B:\ drive for an additional 1.44 meg of
files online.
o it has beautiful ansi graphics and also supports non-ansi
use.
o it will allow you to have as many as 34 CD's online, each
in its own drive, from which users may select
o it will support CD's with as many as 99 subdirectories
and you can break down a CD that has more than 99
subdirectories into 2 or more sub-sets (thereby making
CDMX2DOR capable of handling any CD regardless of its
number of subdirectories).
o it is fully configureable. It will work with:
o CD's with files.bbs in separate
subdirectories on the CD.
o CD's with dirx.lst in separate
subdirectories on the CD.
o You can even specify what file it should
look for to find subdirectory listings,
e.g., files.bbs, dirx.lst, files.lst,
DIR, or whatever you have.
o CD's that have their files.bbs's or
whatever, in a single subdirectory on
the CD instead of having them in each
subdirectory.
o It will even work with CD's that don't
even have a files.bbs or other subdirectory
--- SLMAIL v3.0 (#1187)
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From: TOM SUTER Number: 1265
To: PADDY DRURY Date: 08/19/93 11:47p
Subj: dinosaurs ? which one ?? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PD>Me got new cd player
PD>Me got son
PD>Me HAVE to have dinosaur cd
PD>Me ask help in which is best
PD>You tell me
PD>Me say thanks
Paddy,
I can't claim to have seen everything on the market, but earlier
this year I picked up "Dinosaur Adventure", published by Knowledge
Adventure Corp. for my son. Judging from the reaction of those who
have seen it around here (friends as well as my own family), I think
your son would be very happy with it. In my opinion, it is really
aimed at younger kids, but it is still interesting for teen-agers
and even for adults, if you have an interest in the subject.
Auf wiedersehen,
= Tom =
* QMPro 1.01 41-0124 * Marriage is not a word it is a sentence....
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From: RON FINDLING Number: 1266
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/17/93 10:51p
Subj: New Mpc Specs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
(Standard OS spec for multimedia?)
> Good question.... But maybe they're waiting to see what dominates the
> marketplace and then tout that as the "standard" like has happened
> with other things! <g>
Realizing it's not even out in beta yet, I imagine that'll be
Windows 4.0. After all, even without seeing it, the media is taking
everything Microsoft says at face value, and has been saying it will
take over...
Sarcasm aside, there won't be any "standard OS" for MM, since of
course whatever OS you're using, you should be able to use MM.
======================================================================
(Byte magazine shows OS/2 multimedia superior to Windows, Windows NT)
> I take it you run OS/2?? I have programmed both for OS/2 and Windows,
> and don't find either to be excruciatingly easy to program for....
Yup, I do use OS/2, and you're right, no GUI is easy to program for.
But every article I've ever read on programming (I'm no programmer
myself) constantly harps on the kludges one must do when programming
properly for Windows, as compared to the cleaner approach with OS/2.
Regarding multimedia, for example, it's apparently very difficult under
Windows to synchronize full motion video and speech, whereas under OS/2
it's relatively easy.
======================================================================
(NT multimedia no improvement over Windows)
> Yep, you're right there... But you also have the pain of having to bug
> your dealer/distributor/card mfr for Windows drivers, as the basic NT
> only has PAS 16 and SoundBlaster (from what I recall) and true SCSI
> HA attached CD-ROMS (ie no driver for the PAS 16 SCSI)...
They're just going through the growing pains of any new OS, it happened
with Windows and OS/2 as well. I'm very surprised NT has so few drivers,
though, since it IS 7 months late and I thought MS had more clout with
developers...
___
X SLMR 2.1a X Coming soon to a mirage near you: Windows 4.0
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From: SAM JONES Number: 1267
To: MICHAEL GEGGUS Date: 08/20/93 4:24p
Subj: 562-b Driver Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MG> Panasonic 562B was the answer. It plugged into the
MG> SB Pro no problem, and
MG> the driver (my case CDMKE41.SYS) came with the CD-
Hello, I also have the Panasonic 562-b and the drive seems to be very fast,
except for one problem: In DOTT and kQ6 everything pauses for a split-second
whenever the drive is accessed (ex- to read the speech data)
then everthing is ok (no choppiness in speech or graphics).
The driver I am using is SBCD.SYS. I would like to try the driver you are
using, could you give me the # of a board that I could download it from on a
first-time call if possible?
Thanks, Sam
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From: SAM JONES Number: 1268
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/20/93 4:29p
Subj: Panasonic Pausing Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello (Again), I really love my 562-b except for the fact that now a
couple of games seem to pause completely when the CD is accessed. After
the drive starts reading in info (only a split-second) everything is ok.
Have you ever experienced this problem? I am using Lightning CD now and it
acts the same with or without it enabled. Which driver are you using? Also
another guy on Prodigy is having the same exact problem!
Sam
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* Origin: The Southern Star - 6 Lines - HST/V32b - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1)
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From: MICHAEL KONOR Number: 1269
To: RODNEY RUDD Date: 08/20/93 7:42a
Subj: Re: scsi cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>How many of the external units do you have? Is this a commercial
>sale, or used? Thanks.
Refurbished. I can get about 10 right now.
205-837-5053
*FSED91j*
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From: MARTIN ROODENBURG Number: 1270
To: CHRIS BALMER Date: 08/21/93 12:00a
Subj: Mitsumi CD-Rom drives Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Chris,
> I have a Soundblaster 2 card and want to know if I can connect
> it directly to the Mitsumi - I gather that the Mitsumi has ports
> that can be connected to a set of amplified speakers, but if I
> connect the drive this way, will it make the connection from the
> Sblaster to the speakers redundant ?
> So, can the Sblaster & Mitsumi be connected so that the speakers
> are only connected to one of the devices ?
As far as I now you can connect de analog audio output to any analog
you want, e.g. you can use de mitsumi controller to drive de CD-ROM,
and use the analog output from the drive for the soundblaster.
In that way, you can use the mixer in the soundblaster to mix the
audio-output from the CD-ROM with the other audio-outpust in the
SB-card.
BTW I have seen a example of how to connect the Mitumsi-drive to the
soundblaster-card. According to the text (sorry, I can't get it
right now) only the order of the pinnumbers need to be changen (in
the cable).
On my soundcard, both the Pioneer ??? and the Mitsumi LU005S can be
connected, and I've got the pin-layout from both connectors.
So I you really want to know how to make a cable (I case you really
need that last slot), I'll search for that book.
Bye,
Martin.
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From: ROGER SMITH Number: 1271
To: JOHN KORTINK Date: 08/20/93 7:03a
Subj: Loom on CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JK> Does anybody know if 7th Guest will run without a sound card ? I
JK> rather hate having to buy hardware to be able to run software. Why the
JK> hell is it that games on CD don't use CD quality audio when it's
JK> available ???
Timing ... it's almost impossible to synchronize CD Audio with displayed
graphics.
A newer standard, CDROM/XA, allows audio and data to be interleaved so it may
provide a solution to this problem.
-- Roger
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From: RON CHASE Number: 1272
To: ALL Date: 08/18/93 3:14p
Subj: US national phonedisc Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for the above named disc sets.
NOT PROPHONE!
Does anyone sell or have info on these?
Thanks, Ron
* OLX 2.1 TD * OREGON SPORTS BBS 503-726-0240 24 hr buy and sell
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From: AL KOLLER Number: 1273
To: ALL Date: 08/19/93 6:53p
Subj: DesqView/X for Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
If you are interested in multi-tasking, I have a new version of DVX for sale.
I have migrated to OS/2 and do not need it. New, full docs and original
packaging. Make offer here, netmail me at 374/3, or call voice evenings at
407-267-4860.
--- QuickBBS 2.76a
* Origin: SPACE COAST BBS, Titusville, Florida, (407) 269-2169 (1:374/3)
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From: MICHAEL BERNSTEIN Number: 1274
To: DON STRADER Date: 08/19/93 5:01p
Subj: CD COMPAT W/DOS 6 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DS> I'm having a problem with the compatiblity of DOS 6 and my CD-ROM
DS> drive. I recently used memmaker to free up 40K of memory when I boot
DS> the computer for CD-ROM (I use multiple configurations), and now when I
DS> try to log on drive S (my CD), it says "Invalid drive specification".
Make sure that the path(s) in your autoexec for MSCDEX is for the one used
for DOS 6. For example:
LH c:\dos\mscdex {switches placed here}
It could be that your autoexec.bat is looking for the one that came with
your CD-ROM which is out dated for DOS 6.
--/\/\ike B. (Internet: mbernstein@turbo.kean.edu) from NJ
... The worst thing about censorship is .
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
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From: STEVE GERWECK Number: 1275
To: BARRY MISHKIND Date: 08/19/93 4:12p
Subj: BEST CDROM PRICES!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Barry Mishkind to Steve Gerweck <=-
DC> * Busty Babes......29.95
SG> Can you match Mike Shannon's offer of $29 PPD??
BM> Oh, come on! For 95 cents, you have sysops all over the world carrying
BM> a post showing your unwillingness to do your business on your own
BM> dime? If a vendor does a good job, 95 cents is nothing. Give us all a
BM> break and do your ordering in another manner.
Give me a break! You forget the $4 or $5 for shipping.
Steve
... Chrysler's New Presidential Model - Dodge Drafter
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* Origin: CANDI LAND BBS, MONROE, MI (313)243-6689 (1:2380/120.0)
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From: STEVE GERWECK Number: 1276
To: VINCE SORENSEN Date: 08/19/93 4:15p
Subj: BEST CDROM PRICES!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Vince Sorensen to Steve Gerweck <=-
-> DC> * Busty Babes......29.95
-> Can you match Mike Shannon's offer of $29 PPD??
VS> I can beat it hands down. Give me a call at 306-789-4654...
Give me your rock bottom price (including shipping and handling), and I'll
send you a check or charge it. Do you have a 800 ordering number? Feel free
to use netmail to reply if you wish.
BTW, just to make sure we are on the same page, you are referring to BB v3,
right?
Thanks Vince,
Steve
PS.. send me a catalog if you have one.
... Steve Gerweck, 530 Concetta Drive, Monroe, MI 48161-3542
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From: SHARI GHARAVY Number: 1277
To: ALL Date: 08/17/93 2:33a
Subj: Hi! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello!
Um, just want to say hi and hope someone drops me a line.
Shar
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From: SAM JONES Number: 1278
To: ALL Date: 08/20/93 8:13p
Subj: CD SLOW-DOWN Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I recently purchased a Panasonic 562-b 320ms double-speed CD-ROM drive and
installed it a few days ago. The drive seemed to work very well and at a fast
speed with the Animals and Software Toolwrks Ency.
CD's.
Yesterday I played both the KQ6 and DOTT CD's and they exhibit slow-
down whenever the disc is read for the digitized effects or speech. I do not
experience any sound break up with the digital audio and the "slow-down"
(actually more like a pause in the whole system) dissapears once the CD is
actually being read. I have tried all types of settings with the buffers and
Lightning CD and this problem still exists.
Has anyone else ever had this problem (with any CD-ROM drive)? It seems to
me as if it could be a driver problem or something, as the drive seems very
fast and once it starts reading everything is smooth.
My driver (SBCD.SYS) is dated 4/93 while the drive was manufactured in July
'93.
I'd appreciate any advice or views on this matter.
Thanks, Sam
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From: MICHEL ROMY Number: 1279
To: ALL Date: 08/15/93 12:53p
Subj: Panasonic 562b Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Can anyone give me the spec. of the Panasonic 562B CD-Rom drive ? is it
internal or external ? transfer rate, ...
And if it is internal, does an external version exist ? price ?
thanks
Mick
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From: MICHAEL LINSE Number: 1280
To: OLIVER BLADEK Date: 08/16/93 2:03p
Subj: MSCDEX V2.22 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hallo allerseits,
am Samstag, 17 Juli 1993 schrieb Oliver Bladek an All:
OB> 'mscd001 ') When I type the specs for the CD it's
OB> c:\sb16\drv\mscdex.exe /d:mscd001 /m:5 /d:
OB> It replies with incorrect DOS version. I have an ASI 486/33SX and is
OB> using DOS 6.0 and Windoze 3.1 Thanx in advance TTYl
how about using setver.exe ???
Ciao/2
Michael
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From: RON DWIGHT Number: 1281
To: ALAN EDWARDS Date: 08/18/93 9:13p
Subj: test Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Any advance on England?
Finland. This is the third copy of this message, the other two got
lost.
Cheers,
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From: LOUIS CARRESI Number: 1282
To: CHRIS FLYNN Date: 08/15/93 4:03a
Subj: Mitsumi Lu005 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=( Chris Flynn might recently have said to Louis Carresi about Mitsumi
Lu005 )=-
CB> Is that just my volume control (how far does yours turn) or what might
CB> be the prob ?
LC>
LC> Mine goes up to 11 !
CF> ROTFL!
LC> ^^^^^ Feeling dim today, can't think what this stands for.
CF> Rolling on the floor laughing.
CF> (My all-time 3rd favourite movie)
LC> I was thinking of Spinal Tap and the amp that had volume controls
CF> So was I!
Ahh! Good , I'm glad you cleared that up I was trying hard to think
what film ROTFL stood for, because I do remember a similar documentary
type film that was quite similar to ST (American I think) but I can't
recall the title.
Anyway since your original message, my mate has just got a Mitsumi and he
also complains about the volume level so I guess that it is par for the
course. Best solution is to bung the output into some active speakers or
into the Soundblaster card if you have one. Apparently the wiring just
needs to be rearranged for the latter solution.
Regards,
Louis
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From: PADDY DRURY Number: 1283
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/15/93 2:59p
Subj: tag line ??? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MS> * SLMR 2.1a * If it's British, it leaks.
As a Brit I am not to impressed with the the tag line
( UNLESS you are talking about our fine line in
watering cans < grin >
On another point what sort of a deal could you do me for sending over
a bundle of CD's
Say 5 copies of ten tiles for a test run
... Happly married now for exactly 24 hours, (wedding 10 years ago !!) fil
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From: BRYAN ALEXANDER Number: 1284
To: ALL Date: 08/20/93 11:17p
Subj: Genealogy CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Everyone, I am looking to buy or rent genealogical CD's. Things like
census records, birth & death announcements, etc. I will take new or
used CD's, and I would prefer to rent.
Thanks,
Bryan Alexander
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From: ARNIE GROSS Number: 1285
To: DAVID BURKE Date: 08/19/93 11:14a
Subj: RE: Thanks Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
.
David -
18 Aug 93, David Burke writes to Bob Hall:
DB> People are always giving the moderator a hard time but, I am
DB> really glad to get rid of 100 messages of buy the latest BooBs
DB> from Mars CD-ROM or whatever.
BooBs from Mars? WOW! I'll take three boobs, thanks.
All kidding aside, isn't the drop in traffic refreshing!
Thank you, Bob Hall!!!
- Arnie :+}
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From: JOSH PICHE Number: 1286
To: PAUL NUSBAUM Date: 08/20/93 7:39a
Subj: CD-Rom kit Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
So did you get your PAS16-CD Rom kit? How is it? I've heard good reports on
it before. What did it include?
Josh Piche
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1287
To: LARRY FOX Date: 08/18/93 5:56a
Subj: TRANTOR SCSI CONTROLLER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>BG> with the way it works. My suggestion is to spend an additional US$130 or
>BG> and get an Adaptec 1520 or 1522. The CorelSCSI drivers run it just fine.
>BG> No driver needed to run hard drives.
>Thanks Bill I beleive I may purchase the Adaptec controller.. Sounds like a
>wise investment in the long run!
Only if you plan to run OS/2 in the near future - otherwise, save yourself some
$$ and a LOT of support grief and get an Allways IN-2000.
I've RUN the Adaptec stuff - nice controllers, but I could get NO support out
of Adaptec, even as a DEALER. Always I never NEEDED support for - they just
WORK!
* SLMR 2.1a * I interfaced my Cat to my radio, but all I got was hiss
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1288
To: DAN WALDRON Date: 08/18/93 11:56a
Subj: MITSUMI CD ROM DRIVE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>I have here a Mitsumi CRMC-LU002S Internal CDROM drive, it is out of an Acer
>386SX. I want to throw this drive into a new machine, but I do not know the
>interface type. It is a 40 pin ribbon cable.
It is a Propriatary Mitsumi interface.
>Is it possible for me to hook this drive up to my SB PRO 2.0 CD Interface or
to
>a standard AT-Bus interface?
Not only no, but HELL NO!!!!
You need either the card Mitsumi bundled with the drive, or an ATI Stereo/FX-
CD (I think that is the model) sound card, or the (Gravis or Galaxy, I forget
which) other sound card that is specified to work with Mitsumi drives.
The SB Pro will only work with certain Panasonic model drive(s) - PERIOD.
* SLMR 2.1a * Fundamentalism means never having to open your mind....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1289
To: MICHAEL CHOWNING Date: 08/18/93 12:44p
Subj: SONY CDU-7205 CD ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> I have three Sony 7205's. They are SCSI devices, but proprietary to Sony.
That is a contradiction in terms - they are either Sony Bus (Propriatary) or
they are SCSI (standard) - they can NOT be both.
>mine for multimedia purposes, but I've read that the PAS-16 audio card works
>with them
Which specifies that they are in fact SCSI, if true - the PAS-16 uses a SCSI
port.
* SLMR 2.1a * Air Resistance is a drag....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1290
To: JOE VENTURELLI Date: 08/18/93 12:47p
Subj: TRAFFIC REPORT! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Nice report, what is the point of the report?
Satisfaction of curiosity, perhaps?
* SLMR 2.1a * The sad thing about Windows bashing is that it's all TRUE
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1291
To: GEOFF HOWSE Date: 08/18/93 1:19p
Subj: READING MACINTOSH DISC Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>I have a Macintosh CD which won't work in my Panasonic equipped IBM
compatible.
> Does anyone know of adriver that will work?. All I get is a message saying
>"Not High Sierra Format" or somesuch.
Likely that disc is not in a PC-Compatable FORMAT, and thus is not readable on
your system. PC-Clones are limited to reading CDs in either the High Sierra
format or in ISO-9660 format (which is 98+% compatable with and is based on the
older High Sierra format).
* SLMR 2.1a * Pi R squared. Nooo! Pizza R round, Square Pan R squared!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1292
To: FINN HARDER Date: 08/18/93 3:52p
Subj: REMOTE ACCESS TO CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>I have a question. Is it possible to set up a cd-rom for remote access?
Sure - run a BBS program and set the CD-ROM up as the files section(s).
* SLMR 2.1a * You don't buy beer OR cola, just rent them for a while!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1293
To: ROB LEVINE Date: 08/19/93 11:52a
Subj: WORKS GREAT (SO FAR) Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Mitsumi IDE interface drive
40 pins does NOT an IDE drive make - the Mitsumi uses a PROPRIATARY interface,
not an IDE interface.
>Please note my non-CM flag in the nodelist
It WOULD be nice if more folks would pay attention to that sort of thing - I've
been non-CM during a lot of my FidoNet "career" as well....
* SLMR 2.1a * Tribble -> * Borg assimilated Tribble -> #
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1294
To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 08/19/93 11:57a
Subj: SOME DISK RECOMMENDATIONS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> When there are more than about 400 files in a directory you are
> MUCH better off if you divide the file listing in that directory
> so that you have about 300 listed in each Files.<?>
Varies with the number of BUFFERS you set in your CONFIG.SYS file - the more
BUFFERS, the higher the number of files in a subdirectory you can have before
"terminal slowdown" starts.
99 BUFFERS will permit more like 800-1000 files in a directory at a reasonable
access time....
> There is something inherent in dos that makes getting the
> information on the file size, date, etc.... VERY slow especially
> after you exceed 4 or 5 hundred files in a directory. Some
> programmers have found a way around this problem... but I'll be
> damned if I can figure out how they do it.
I can tell you how TBBS does it - it came up with a "pseudo-directory" format
(text file description of available files) that allows the time/date/etc. to be
INCLUDED in the description, thus limiting actual accesses to when a download
is performed....
* SLMR 2.1a * Cats have fur coats because they look sillly in raincoats
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1295
To: ERIC SCHONNING Date: 08/19/93 12:00p
Subj: FIDONET CONFERENCES O Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>TH> 2... The CDROM & CDROM_SALE echos get approximately 150 messages per TH>
> day. Each message is approx 1k in size, which means that you cou TH>
>accumulate 150k of new mail everyday... 600 megs divided by 150k
>true while message size is 1k for most messages, cluster size on a CD-ROM disc
>is 8k
ONLY applicable if you are using something silly like *.MSG format.
*.PKT with 500 messages a packet will pretty much negate your cluster size
problem....
* SLMR 2.1a * Me a Skeptic? I trust you have proof....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1296
To: MICHAEL MCKINLE@1:3645/10 Date: 08/19/93 3:09p
Subj: WINDOW SIZE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Drop all the trash- simple rule only use microsoft products from now on.
A majority of MicroSoft products ARE trash.
>I know because I will not carry anymore of the stacker, qemm, and blue max.
Your loss - QEMM memory management makes everything DOS has done to date look
like a sick joke.
>If you really want to get an inside scoop- learn how c+ c++ works and you can
>solve your own memory problems by editing the code.
Or better yet, use Assembler and never have to worry about "C++ bloat".
Now - just what did all this have to do with CDROMs?
* SLMR 2.1a * Men are more sentimental than women, blurs our thinking.
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 1297
To: TIM HELTON Date: 08/20/93 11:55a
Subj: Re: CANADIAN SOURCE Refer: NONE
Read: 08/22/93 6:44a Private: No
Nice work if you can get it! (:>
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: SEAN HANLEN Number: 1298
To: CARLTON Date: 08/20/93 7:23p
Subj: games Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
carlton,
thanks for the extra time but I still did not find what i was
looking for so will you keep a EYE out for
WOLF3D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thanks again
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From: DIANA KIRKSEY Number: 1299
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/20/93 9:11a
Subj: Re: new mpc specs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE> A 1Mb SVGA card is capable of the following maximum colour depths at
RE> the undermentioned resolutions :-
RE> 640 x 480 x 16.7 million colours
RE> 800 x 600 x 65,536 colours
RE> 1024 x 768 x 256 colours
Thanks for the Info!
Diana
===
* OLX 2.1 * It's only a hobby ... only a hobby ... only a
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From: JERRY SMITH Number: 1300
To: DON KULHA / BOB HALL Date: 08/20/93 5:54p
Subj: Image Compression Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Last month's Byte magazine had a review of 'Fractal Image
Compression' by Barnsley and Hurd (ISBN 1-5681-000-8, $49.95). The
suggestion was that this technology was at the 'cutting edge' of
image compression. Have you seen this book and do you know
anything about the technology, or whether it has been used in
producing any current CD's? I'm especially curious to know what
sort of compression is attained by this method.
Thanks for any input you might be able to provide.
Jerry Smith 4341 U St., Sacramento, CA 95817 (916)455-3275
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From: JOHN ALLISON Number: 1301
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 08/18/93 11:01a
Subj: Dma method Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 08-15-93 BOB JACKSON wrote to ALL...
BJ> I have the Sony 7205 drive (came with Laser Lib.) and have been using
Bob when I upgraded to the Trantor mod the only way I could access the
7205 using the old drivers was to use the DMA method and here
is my config.sys line:-
devicehigh=c:\cdrom\sony_cdu.sys /d:sony_001 /b:340 /q:5 /t:3 /m:h
q:is the IRQ and t:is the DMA - Hope this helps ... OFFLINE 1.50
"DANGER! DANGER! Computer store ahead...hide wallet."
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1302
To: RANDY WHITE Date: 08/19/93 8:42p
Subj: MORE CD'S ON SALE! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RW>I'm looking for Willy Bemish and Space Quest IV on CD, do you have them and
c
RW>you give me a Price...Thanks Randy...
Randy,
Can let you have Willy for $24 and Space Quest IV for the same price.
Both are in stock as of 8/18.
Call any time.
.\\ike
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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* SLMR 2.1a * I used to have a life. Now I have Windows.
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1303
To: CLYDE SISLER Date: 08/19/93 8:42p
Subj: COMPTON'S ON SALE! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CS>Could you tell me if your CA154 Source CD-ROM is the 3/92 Edition from
CS>Walnut Creek?
Yes it is.
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1304
To: BLAINE RICHARD Date: 08/19/93 8:43p
Subj: NEW CD-SOUTHERN BEAUTIES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BR>> BR> ********** SOUTHERN BEAUTIES MAY NOT BE USED ON ANY BBS
BR>> Why?
BR>>
BR>Chris the reason being that Southern Beauties is a FULLY COPYRIGHTED adult
CD
BR>Rom disc and the images on this disc are not intended for public
distribution
BR>I'm sure your aware that it is a FEDERAL offense to reproduce, distribute,
or
BR>exhibate copyrighted images. I hope this has answered your question.
Then why did you put FILES.BBS on it?
^^^
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1305
To: JAMES BUTT Date: 08/19/93 8:43p
Subj: Cd'S On Sale! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CH>All the CD's I have purchased have come from StarVector/Mike Shannon.
CH>He runs a company out of Yakima Washington and has real good pricing.
CH>He has a BBS that you can access to download his price list too.
CH>Voice 509-457-2892 BBS 509-457-0206 Filename STARCAT.ZIP
Or you can freq the STARCAT.ZIP file from 1:3407/101 if you don't
want to pay for a LD call. Call if there is anything I can help you
with James! We'll treat you right!
Later,
.\\ike
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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* SLMR 2.1a * Dammit Jim! I'm a doctor, not a tagline!
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1306
To: BILLY BATTON Date: 08/19/93 8:43p
Subj: price Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BB>Does any one Have prices on Adult Cd-rom Disk?
Billy,
Can't say too much because of the rules & regs in this echo, but call
me at 509-457-2892, and we can discuss them. We stock around 45 adult
titles right now, with very good prices.
Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1307
To: ALL Date: 08/19/93 8:43p
Subj: CD-ROM LIQUIDATION! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
STARVECTOR CD-ROM LIQUIDATION SPECIALS!
Q & A 4.0...........$34 Powerpak Gold 3.0...$15 House of Games......$20
Compton's Interact..$95 US Wars: Korea......$29 US Wars: Des. Storm.$29
Super CD 2..........$15 Super CD 1..........$14 Programmers Megapak.$29
Canadian Shareware..$19 MAC Shareware.......$22 Clipart Heaven......$19
5Star Prem. Windows.$27 Otherware I.........$17 Jedi Collection.....$39
History of Jazz.....$48 Hacker Chronicles...$24 Reel Clips..........$35
Kodak Photo CD......$18 Phoenix 3.0.........$12 Game Arena..........$10
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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* SLMR 2.1a * Hello, I am Mike and I am a baudaholic.
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From: TONY VALUIKAS Number: 1308
To: ALL Date: 08/15/93 2:30p
Subj: MultiLine/CDROM/DV/HELP!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Can anyone help me on this?
I keep getting CRC errors on all files download from the CDROM. With
one Node up everything works but with more than one Node I get errors.
I set my EMS setting in the DV setup to 30 and deleted the /E in my
autoexec with no luck. I loaded one node from DOS and it works great so
I know it's somewhere in the setup from the CD to DV...
As you may tell I do not have a manual for the CD drive, so I am sure
this is just a wrong setup.
Here's my setup autoexec setup
c:\qemm\loadhi /r:1 c:\MSCDEX /D:MSCD0001 /E /L:E /V /M:20
and here's my config.sys setup
DEVICE=c:\qemm\loadhi.sys /r:2 c:\SONY_CDU.SYS /D:MSCD0001 /U:1 /B:340
/M:H /Q:* /T:*
Anyone that will help I will say thanks in advance... I sure need it...
Tv
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From: CHRIS CONKLIN Number: 1309
To: BOB HALL Date: 08/20/93 12:07p
Subj: Up All Night Problems Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
Bob,
I am still in desperate need of the fix for the 10 Up All Night Shareware
discs you shipped me. I've already had to take two of the disc back from
customers because they couldn't get them to work.
I know you are busy, but I need you to support the product you distribute
me to resell.
Please get the 10 discs with fix patch to me ASAP. I have been trying to
get these from you for over a month now and three times you said you would send
them to me right away.
I appreciate you helping me out with this problem so I can continue to
sell the remainder of the original shipment. Right now, I have them off line
due to the non-functional problem.....
Thanks
Chris Conklin 915-944-1991
7705 Warrior
San Angelo, Tx
76904
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From: BOB HALL Number: 1310
To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 08/17/93 8:13p
Subj: RE: MAKE MONEY!! MUST READ!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>BH> Please do not enter a message of that nature in this echo again.
>
> I see that some of the vendors are still advertising adult cds for
> sale.
Yep, they are. I am trying, but it takes time to get the new rules to going
the right direction. Will do what I can.
Thanks for the comment.
BOB
:-)
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From: ED YEE Number: 1311
To: PAUL WHITE Date: 08/20/93 7:36p
Subj: RE: Mammals CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PW> Glad you got your problem sorted out. The Mammals
PW> disk is pretty good.. I
PW> like the little movie clips, and the sound effects.
PW> p.s. for some real jungle noises, play track 4 on a regular CD player!
I played it in the ROM and in the CD-player. Hmmm, interesting (8-D I don't
like the fact that the movie clips don't have any sound with them, but no
matter, I still like the disk.
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From: ED YEE Number: 1312
To: ALL Date: 08/20/93 8:16p
Subj: CD sound Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I just got these AWESOME new amplified speaker system for my computer. These I
have currently have hooked up to my sound card. I don't like switching the 2
plugs (sound card & CD-ROM) all the time when I want to listen to a music CD.
On the back of my CD-ROM controller, there are 2 RCA plugs for a stero system.
Since my stero system is located nowhere close to my computer, I can't hook
these 2 up. What I've come up with is a interesting network of adapter to hook
the sound card and RCA plugs together to use the same speakers. On plug #1 for
the RCA I've got 2 RCA plugs leading off into a connector (female headphone),
(plugs into RCA plugs on back of CD-ROM and female end is used later). On plug
#2, I have a single female headphone connector spliting up into 2 male
headphone connectors (one for connector connected to RCA plugs and other end
for sound card. The female connector on this adaptor would then connect with
the male pin from the speakers. My question is, if I'm playing a audio CD in
windows and I trigger a system event which plays a wav file, what will happen ?
Will I see a nice mini-firework display on my desk or will the sound just
"mingle" ? Also would it be easier it the adaptor I got just had 2 RCA plugs
and a male headphone connector (connects CD-ROM controller directly to PAS+
sound card. Would the sound just go throught the sound card and through the
speakers ? I also have a friend with a 286 sytem with the same CD-ROM drive,
but she only has a regular Sound Blaster 2.0 sound card. Would the last idea I
mentioned work on her computer. He used headphone right now, but she wants to
get some new speaker when she upgrades her system and wants to know if my last
idea would work on her machine as well.
Thanks in advance.
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From: ERIC TREMBLAY Number: 1313
To: CHRIS CONKLIN Date: 08/19/93 7:14p
Subj: CD-ROM Disks in Canada Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Give me your address and I'll gladly send you a CD-ROM catalog.
> You can also give me a call anytime at the number below. I work
> out of the back of my house, thus keeping my over head way down,
> thus my prices!
>
> TTYL
>
> C-3 Production Systems
> PO Box 60144
> San Angelo, Tx
> 76906
Eric Tremblay
95 Collingwood St.
Kingston, ON
Canada
K7L 3X6
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From: VINCE SORENSEN Number: 1314
To: PAM TEMPLE Date: 08/19/93 8:47a
Subj: CANADIAN SOURCE Refer: NONE
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-> Do you have a catalogue including prices that you could mail or post
-> here? I am interested because it is a Canadian Source. If you want
-> to mail it I'll post my address, but let me know here so I'll know
-> you got the message, as this is a new point address that I haven't
-> actually received or successfully sent anything on yet.
Hi Pam!
Yes, we sure do have a catalogue. If you want, you could leave your
address here, or contact us directly at 306-789-4654... we also have our
catalogue online (CDROMS!.ZIP) on the Superboard BBS at 306-789-8682.
I'm looking forward to hearing from you - thanks for asking!
Vince
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From: ROLAND LAROCQUE Number: 1315
To: GREG ISOKRARI Date: 08/20/93 2:25p
Subj: Magnavox cdd 461 cd-r Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Greg!
14 Aug 93, Greg Isokrari writes to Travis Campbell:
If you have problem with this CD-ROM let me know, i will help.
Roland
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From: NIGEL ZETT Number: 1316
To: LAURENS LINSSEN Date: 08/18/93 10:19p
Subj: Advice Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* In a message originally to Boris Osadciw, Laurens Linssen said:
LL> The shop owner here told me the double speed drive from
LL> panasonic
LL> will be available in september or october for about $394.
LL> So what would you recommend me? The mitsumi, the panasonic,
Laurens, I cought you Email on our local echo and just wanted to tell you that
the Panasonic CR562 is the "double-speed" drive of choice at preference. I
currently sell them for US$267 installed, but they are cheaper for
do-it-yourself-ers. I know you would want to buy locally (for the reasons you
stated), so I'm not saying that to make a sale. This drive also meets the
minimum requirments for MPC-2 specs. The mitsumi is good too, but for a little
more, the Panasonic is worth it. Also, the question has been raised on this
echo as to whether interface card drives are faster/better than SCSI-2 drives.
From my own experience, I'd agree that unless you have a real need for SCSI-2
devices (such as hard drives, 9-track tape, etc), stick to the Panasonic with
it's dedicated interfase card (as does the Mitsumi).
The way product life has shortened to less than 6 months (before a new or
improved version comes out), you might just want to hold off for a few months
if you can. I'd also highly recommend the SBPro 16 ASP sound board, as it is
also MPC-2 compatible, and can save you a slot by hooking up your Panasonic to
it.
Just my opinion, of course.... --─≡NIGEL»
NZC Computer
Keene, NH
603 352-9364 Voice
603 355-4936 FAX
603 357-8358 BBS
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From: NIGEL ZETT Number: 1317
To: ALL Date: 08/19/93 9:04p
Subj: MSCDEX Command Line Options Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Sorry to bring this one up again, but I recall reading a few messages in past
weeks about the MSCDEX command line options (both documented and undocumented).
I went to look for the message again and it was gone (all were actually).
Could someone please run down a list of ALL options, their parameters and uses?
And no, the skimpy docs that came with my MSCDEX update (from Future Domain)
DON'T list them at all, just a "recommended set-up line".
Thanks!!! --─≡NIGEL»
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From: JERRY MURPHY Number: 1318
To: DIANA KIRKSEY Date: 08/19/93 11:30a
Subj: Cd-rom help! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>For the life of me, I can't get the .SYS file to load in high memory.
>I use QEMM but even went as far as to install 386MAX on my system.
>Neither will let me load the file high - both lock up my system when
>they boot. I've rebooted about 500 times over this and just gave up.
>Anyone else not able to load the .SYS file high?
DK>I've been having problem's trying to use QEMM too.The problems
DK>actually started when I installed my correct Video Card on
DK>Windows(Trident 256c),since then whenever I try to load Qemm,it says
DK>that Windows can't load the video driver in B000.So unfortunately,right
DK>now anyway,I'm just having to use Windows Himem.sys,which leave's me
DK>with only 552k conventional memory(I have 4 megs on board). Does
DK>anyone have any suggestions? I tried excluding the B000,but it still
DK>did the same thing.
Diana, I think you're on the right track. For starters, QEMM beats the socks
off of 386MAX, and that weak little EMM thingy from Microsoft isn't even in the
race.
Perhaps you're already doing so, but the way you stated it makes me think you
have left out a very important step. It's not enough to exclude just a part of
the address (X=B000). You have to exclude the desired range of addresses. In
my case, using QEMM 7.01 & Trident 8900C:
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\QEMM386.SYS RAM ROM ST:M X=B000-B0FF I=0C00-0FFF R:2
^^^^^^^^^^^ You didn't say which
version of QEMM you use, so I don't know which page of which manual to invite
you to see.
Windows and only 4 megs on board? You *are* an optimist!
And all of us are off-topic, so I'll drop the thread from here.
the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio
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From: JERRY MURPHY Number: 1319
To: BRUCE BOWMAN Date: 08/19/93 11:49a
Subj: Cd-rom help! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BB>In a message to Tom Miller <08-07-93 14:04> Mark Womack wrote:
MW> For the life of me, I can't get the .SYS file to load in high memory.
MW> I use QEMM but even went as far as to install 386MAX on my system.
MW> Neither will let me load the file high - both lock up my system when
MW> they boot. I've rebooted about 500 times over this and just gave up.
And you then added this advice, which just confused the hell out of me:
BB>If you've been using QEMM's Optimize program to order your drivers, you
BB>can just about forget it. My experience, anyway, has shown
BB>that Optimize just doesn't know how to handle CD-ROM drivers
BB>(or most anything else, for that matter).
I'm on my third consecutive version of QEMM (7.01), and have been using it for
a long time. I've never seen the problems to which you allude. FWIW, here is
what Optimize did for me at my most recent upgrade, (in part).
CONFIG.SYS
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\DEV\MTMCDS.SYS /D:MSCD001 ...
... /P:300 /A:0 /M:2 /E /T:3 /I:2
SET CD=YES
DEVICE=C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE
lastdrive=G
AUTOEXEC.BAT
SET CDMENU=C:\CDROM\CDMENU
@C:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:1 C:\QEMM\FILES=40
@C:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:2 C:\DOS\MSCDEX.EXE /D:MSCD001
Granted, that doesn't give me a bazillion bytes of working space. But I've
got a LOT of things going on in my system, loading down the 16 Megs pretty
much. If you have a problem shoe-horning in enough buffers, you must choose
what to cut back on ... a camel can carry only just so many straws.
the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio
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From: JERRY MURPHY Number: 1320
To: DAVID BERNARD Date: 08/19/93 6:41p
Subj: Well, i'll be... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DB>This is where we differ, and I don't load MSCDEX.EXE in the Autoexec
DB>for two reasons. The first and certainly most important it will load
DB>high after its been optimized but than it won't run in DOS or DV for me
DB>that way.
I gather from the conversation that neither of you has discovered the TECh
note from Quarterdeck Office Systems on the subject. You can download them
from several BBSs, including the QOS BBS (310) 314-3227, usually as part of the
"White Paper" series. Here's the one you need:
ID:CR QEMM-386: Using QEMM-386 with CD-ROM drivers Quarterdeck Technical Note
# 261 by Michael Bolton Last Revision: 4 September 1992
Q. How do I install my CD-ROM to work best with QEMM-386?
In general CD-ROM drives should present no problem for users of QEMM-386. As
with almost all pieces of hardware, however, there are a few details to
consider when installing a new CD-ROM drive or when installing QEMM-386 on a
system which has a CD-ROM already.
Refer to the documentation for your drive and check if it uses addresses
between 640K and 1MB for a ROM or RAM buffer. In most cases QEMM-386 should be
able to detect ROMs and EXCLUDE the addresses in use by them automatically.
RAM buffers are somewhat more difficult for QEMM-386 to detect; these should be
specifically EXCLUDEd on the QEMM386.SYS line in CONFIG.SYS. If your
documentation is unclear on this issue, or if you are having difficulty
determining what addresses your drive is using, try the QEMM Analysis procedure
as described in your QEMM-386 manual, or refer to Quarterdeck Technical Note
#219, "Using QEMM-386's Analysis Procedure" (EXCLUDE.TEC).
Many CD-ROMs are Small Computer System Interface (SCSI) devices and many SCSI
controllers access data through a technique called "bus-mastering". Again,
refer to the documentation that came with your drive. If your controller is
bus-mastering, refer to Quarterdeck Technical Note #121, "Bus-Mastering Devices
and QEMM-386" (BUS-MAST.TEC). Conflicts related to this often result in a
system crash when you access the bus-mastering device; as described in
BUS-MAST.TEC, the best solution is to obtain a VDS driver from the manufacturer
of your controller. If the SCSI device is not being accessed under Windows
Enhanced Mode, the DB=2 parameter on the QEMM386.SYS line in CONFIG.SYS may
provide a workaround to this problem until your SCSI manufacturer provides a
VDS driver. If the SCSI device IS being accessed under Windows Enhanced Mode,
loading SMARTDRV low may provide a temporary workaround.
Most CD-ROM drives use the Microsoft CD-ROM Extensions to DOS, typically using
a TSR called MSCDEX.EXE to provide these services. MSCDEX takes two parameters
that affect how much memory it uses: "/M:XX" and "/E". The "/M:XX" parameter
(where "XX" is some number) allocates memory for buffering I/O. Each such
buffer uses about 2,067 bytes of conventional memory if loaded into
conventional memory. If you use the "/E" parameter on MSCDEX it will load
these buffers into Expanded memory using about 2,457 bytes of expanded memory
and about 20 bytes of conventional memory per buffer. Users of QEMM-386 will
thus benefit by about 2K per buffer to load their MSCDEX buffers into Expanded
memory.
As of this writing, the OPTIMIZE program which comes with QEMM-386 may fail to
load MSCDEX high. This may be because (with older versions of MSCDEX) the
initialization size of MSCDEX is reported inaccurately during the OPTIMIZE
process. If you have such a problem there are a couple of potential
workarounds. The first is to acquire the latest version of MSCDEX from the
manufacturer of your CD-ROM. Another may be to reduce the initialization size
of MSCDEX; you can do this by adding the /M:4 parameter to the MSCDEX line in
AUTOEXEC.BAT. Another (which will work if the previous suggestion does not) is
to inform OPTIMIZE that the initialization size of MSCDEX is larger than
OPTIMIZE is led to believe. After the Analysis phase of OPTIMIZE (after the
first re-boot, when you see the screen titled "ANALYSIS COMPLETE"), select O
for Options, then select Option 2, "Modify the Data Collected".
Specify that the initialization size of MSCDEX is 80K, as in the following
example, and continue the OPTIMIZE process; MSCDEX should then load high.
Smaller values may work, especially if you have specified the /M:4 parameter to
MSCDEX.
Program Try to Load Squeeze Initial Final
High? Frame? Temp? Size Size
ADRIVER.SYS Y - - 10698 9975 ANSI.SYS
Y - - 6544 2724 BANANA.SYS
Y - - 13392 6224 TOMATO.EXE Y
- - 29032 21976 MSCDEX.EXE Y -
- 23472 16160 <- MOUSE.COM Y - -
27965 17435 | ANOTHER.COM Y - -
67854 23127 |
| The
values listed above are fairly typical of MSCDEX as of this writing. If MSCDEX
refuses to load high after OPTIMIZE is run, increase these values in 5K or 10K
increments until MSCDEX loads high. Current versions of MSCDEX seem to do well
with 24K initial size and 17K final size; you may wish to try these values
first.
(Continued in the next message)
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To: DAVID BERNARD Date: 08/19/93 6:41p
Subj: Well, i'll be... (#2) Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
(Continued from the previous message)
APPENDIX: Obtaining other technotes
Technotes may be obtained from the Quarterdeck BBS (310-314-3227), by
calling QFAX (our automated FAX-back service, at 310-314-3214), on Compuserve
(go QUARTERDECK, library 2), or BIX. Many technotes are also available on
large local BBSs, often in "DESQview" or "multitasking" file areas.
Quarterdeck BBS QFAX# Compuserve BIX --------------- -----
---------- --- BUS-MAST.TEC 121 BUSMAS.TEC Technote names
are not changed EXCLUDE.TEC 219 EXCLUD.TEC for BIX, but may
be ZIPped
************************************************************************
* Trademarks are property of their respective owners. *
*This technical note may be copied and distributed freely as long as it*
*is distributed in its entirety and it is not distributed for profit. *
* Copyright (C) 1992 by Quarterdeck Office Systems *
************************ E N D O F F I L E *************************
the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio
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From: JERRY MURPHY Number: 1322
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 08/19/93 7:45p
Subj: Pioneer cd rom changers Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Mike Meeks asked:
>I'm looking for a "dealer" for the Pioneer DRM 604X; Pioneer's newest
>6 disk CD ROM changer in the Central Ohio (Columbus) area. I am also
>looking for a Central Ohio dealer who stocks cd roms for
>business/professional/engineering.
and you remarked:
BF>Isn't Tom Tech in that general area?
Mike may or may not know that Tom is in Ashtabula, OH, in the northeastern
corner of the state, a few hundred miles from Mike. Boris is about 75 miles
closer, but still a long haul. I'd suggest that if Mike still doesn't have a
source, and needs to stay local, he should ask the ham radio experts at
Universal Electronics; they are SURE to know who does what in their Columbus
neighborhood (in the electronics fields). They don't handle the stuff
themselves, but somebody on staff is certain to know who does.
Having said that, I also have to add that Tom travels the state on the
weekends, rarely missing the hamfests and computer shows, at which he does a
very good business. The next really big one of these will be in Findlay, OH,
Sunday Sept 15, which may be of some interest to you.
the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio
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From: MARK WILHELM Number: 1323
To: GARY SHADE Date: 08/20/93 7:00p
Subj: * X-RATED CD-ROM * Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GS>Overheard Brice Fleckenstein say to Gary Shade on the subject of *
>X-RATED CD-ROM *
GS>BF>>JR> Is there any X-Rated CD-ROM with animals ? BF> BF>>Why would anyone
>want to see animals going at it??? BF> BF>I think that "JR" was asking for a
>CD-ROM with pictures of a human BF>and an animal performing sexual acts, aka
>"beastiality"....
GS>Naw! Come on. Why would an animal want to have sex with a human?
Yes there is, not totally, but a BBS I call in Canton has some nasty
stuff on it. Haven't checked it out myself but it's there.
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From: MARK THORNTON Number: 1324
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 08/20/93 6:58a
Subj: Re: CATALOG Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Ok Neil thanks..
Mark Thornton
292 Cleveland Street
Houma,Louisiana 70363
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From: MARTIN TAYLOR Number: 1325
To: SIMON GRONOW Date: 08/17/93 7:18p
Subj: Re: Night Owl 9 ? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Simon.
> Your local supplier is KM Computers on (003) 43-3200
I rang them. They were out of stock. I asked them to reserve a copy for me and
to call when its in. That was nearly a month ago now. Too bad. I am getting my
CDs direct from the US now. It's cheaper and quicker, believe it or not as the
local dealers seem to be out of stock all the time. Either that or they only
order in when a customer actually places an order.
Martin
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From: MARTIN TAYLOR Number: 1326
To: CHRIS ROBINSON Date: 08/17/93 7:20p
Subj: Re: 16 bit cards Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Chris.
> I am preparing to buy a 16 bit sound card soon. What do all you users
> recommend ??? I am cuurently trying to decide what the good and bad
I recently purchased the Soundblaster CD 16 multimedia kit. It comes with a
Panasonic multi session hi speed CD ROM and a number of Cds. I think it's good
value. It cost me $1150 AUD. The CD seems pretty quick too, compared with a
friend's standard CD ROM.
Martin
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From: DON PUGH Number: 1327
To: AUSTRALIANS Date: 08/18/93 7:16a
Subj: cdrom prices Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
The following disks are available from:
Don Pugh, CDROM SUPPORT BBS
17 Irvine St
Peppermint Grove, West Australia 6011
PH 09-384-9043 Data 09-383-4925
Night Owl 9 $49.00
Super ClipART $19.00
Super Games for Windows $19.00
Simtel-20 1992 $19.00
Circa Windows April, 1993 $29.00
GIGA Games $39.00
For Affordable CD-roms in Australia
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 1328
To: TIM KLAN Date: 08/20/93 7:44p
Subj: Shareware version of CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Tim!
On 08-13-93 Tim Klan wrote to David Szlucha...
TK> DS>Is there a shareware CD-ROM cache out there?
TK>
TK> Yep, CAV10E.ZIP (cache-all is the name). It's about 228k. On the So
TK> Much Shareware/3 disk, or download from Tim's BBS @ 814-825-1731.
Couple of "gotcha's" on Cache-All....
1. Program is shareware, but is time-bombed to expire on 31-5-93.
2. Program uses hard drive file to cache CD-ROMs.
3. Program requires SMARTDRV (or HYPERDISK, etc) if you want to have
write-caching......
4. Price (even the "introductory offer") was (for me) more expensive than
Norton Speedcache and (after currency conversion) CD Speedway....
Guess where Cache-All is on my system??
Cheers!
o
/U\
... OFFLINE 1.52
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From: MARIO BONELLI Number: 1329
To: ALL Date: 08/20/93 10:24p
Subj: Repair For Toshiba 3101 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Looking for any type of repair center or person willing to repair a Toshiba
3101 CDROM Drive at reasonable cost. Please send a reply through netmail.
Thanks.
Mario Bonelli - Ask Me About The Newly Forming AMIGA_HAM Echo - FREQ US!
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1330
To: TERRY WOOD Date: 08/21/93 12:49a
Subj: MORE CD'S ON SALE! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TW>What I want to know is what sort of prices you would charge for Discs that I
TW>choose and pay by Visa Card and then have airmailed to me. Can you give me
TW>an idea of some prices please? I am interested in Art discs (Gif discs etc)
TW>and any Amiga/PC discs that you may have.
Terry,
We have several CD's that will fit your needs. If you would like, you
can download our catalog, "STARCAT.ZIP" from our BBS @ 509-457-0206, or
freq it from 1:3407/101. It has all our current titles with prices and
descriptions. Alternatively, if you would like to leave your address, I
can mail one to you.
Talk to ya later!
.\\ike
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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* SLMR 2.1a * Tagline thievery . . . On the next Geraldo!
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1331
To: ALL Date: 08/21/93 12:49a
Subj: 7TH GUEST ONLY $39! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
7TH GUEST IS HERE!!!
PRICE: $39!! In stock, ready for immediate delivery.
MINIMUM Requirements: 2 Megs RAM * 386DX CPU * 16 bit SVGA video card
with at least 512K RAM * CD-ROM Drive w/ 150K per second minimum transfer
rate * Sound card w/ FM and PCM sound * Mouse * Hard drive w/ 10 Megs free
MSCDEX 2.2 or higher * DOS 5.0
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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* SLMR 2.1a * E-Mailing frequencies are open Captain.
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From: BRIAN HIPPS Number: 1332
To: ALL Date: 08/19/93 11:50a
Subj: Files.bbs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm trying to setup my BBS using Night Owl-9, but the files.bbs on the disc is
incompatible with the software I'm running. The author of the software said to
use the files.bbs format that is used in the Mega cd's. Is there any other cd's
that use the mega type files.bbs? And why don't we have a standard for
files.bbs? One more question if I may what is the lastest version of the mega
cd and would anybody know their phone#. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
===
* CmpQwk #UNREG * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY
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From: SUNNY HUI Number: 1333
To: ALL Date: 08/21/93 12:36a
Subj: Double speed Cd-Rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Everbody, I would like to know that whether that the speed of the
CPU(386/486) will affect the performance of the CD-Rom. It is because I
would like to purchase a CD-Rom but I don't know if one of my old 386
can handle... Thank You!
--- WM v3.01/92-0356
* Origin: STARGATE BBS.(FAX) 1:278/714 NY 718-519-8042 (1:278/714.0)
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From: TRAVIS CAMPBELL Number: 1334
To: CARLOS BENITZ Date: 08/21/93 2:40a
Subj: Kings Quest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CB>16 Aug 93 02:53, Travis Campbell wrote to HENRY PAUL:
TC> have the hardriver version of KQ6! So whats different in the cd-rom
TC> version?
CB>I didn't get any manuals with my cdrom version.
Did you call Sierra Online & get some manuals?
--- Ezycom V1.02 01fa001b
* Origin: The DIALOG Board BBS - Pueblo, Co. - (1:307/12)
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From: ANTHONY HOWARD Number: 1335
To: ROGER SMITH Date: 08/21/93 3:04p
Subj: Re: KODAK PHOTO-CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
can the mpc cd rom that comes with the sound blaster pro work with the import
utility or is it photo cd compatable
--- Maximus 2.01wb
* Origin: Tumbler's Tavern BBS, now at 14.4bps! (613) 825-9302 (1:163/315)
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1336
To: PETER LANE-COLLETT Date: 08/19/93 5:13p
Subj: 7TH GUEST (AUSTRALIA) Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Since all IBM compatibles (even in Australia) use the NTSC video standard
ERROR.
CGA graphics is a match for the NTSC standards.
Monochrome (MDA OR HGA), EGA, and VGA and up bear virtually NO resemblance to
the NTSC (OR to the PAL) video standards.
* SLMR 2.1a * PKZ204 - C for Crash, E for Errors, G for Goodbye....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1337
To: NIGEL ZETT Date: 08/19/93 6:40p
Subj: MITSUMI ON A CHAIN Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Hello all: I am interested in the Mitsumi CD-ROM, and what would be involved
>with hooking up multiple units. Can I chain more than one drive off the same
>interface or do I need to install a separate interface for each unit?
You need an interface card for each drive.
>Also, do I have to install a separate driver and/or MSCDEX for each?
I think you have to install one copy of the driver per card. You only have to
install MSCDEX once, though.
* SLMR 2.1a * Don't try to have the last word. You might get it.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1338
To: JOHN SHEW Date: 08/19/93 7:37p
Subj: NIGHTOWL LIST Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Does anyone have master lists for Nightowl 7 & 8 available for file request or
>download?
I think I have a Nightowl 7 list of some sort around here - let me do some
checking and ask me again in TBBS if you don't see a reply in the next week or
so....
* SLMR 2.1a * Cats are roommates. Dogs are kids.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1339
To: JIM C. SMITH Date: 08/19/93 7:42p
Subj: PIONEER DRM-600 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Hello out there! I am working at installing a DRM-600 Pioneer 6 CD rom drive
>here and experiencing minor difficulties. i.e. the CD driver can't
>communicate with the Host Adapter (scuzzi controller card) I have an Always
>IN-200 controller
Unless it is VCN 1-03 or later, you need to upgrade your BIOS, per other
messages I have seen in various places.
* SLMR 2.1a * Don't abort me! Press Alt-A to adopt me instead!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1340
To: CARLOS BENITZ Date: 08/20/93 1:27p
Subj: SHAREWARE AND CDS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> FF> I think it will only be a matter of time before ""CD of the month"
> FF> clubs start and everybody will get a nice new CD in the mailbox each
> FF> month.
>Were there "Disk of the mnth" clubs 10 years ago?
CBS CD Club has been around appx. 10 years, not sure about the BMG (ex-RCA)
club offhand but I think it has been around appx. 10 years as well.
* SLMR 2.1a * Wasn't that your Mother in that Far Side cartoon?
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1341
To: ANDRE QUEREE Date: 08/20/93 1:29p
Subj: 7TH GUEST. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> AQ> PS. It's a shame that Americans don't realise that not everyone
> AQ> uses NTSC video.
> PB> Does that mean we won't be able to get PAL video's here?
>That's right! And also, we are legally not allowed to copy the NTSC tape to
>PAL format - even for our own use - as that would infringe copyright!
Wrong - as long as you don't DISTRIBUTE such a copy to anyone else, you DO have
the right to make such a copy.
>It's a shame the Americans think they are the only people in the world!!
It's a shame that Europe is the ONLY part of the world that still clings to the
incompatable-with-everything PAL standard....
* SLMR 2.1a * DSZ ha ha ho ho -oh -me -oh -my
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1342
To: JOHN BRODERICK Date: 08/20/93 1:40p
Subj: * X-RATED CD-ROM * Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> JR> Is there any X-Rated CD-ROM with animals ?
> Isn't that aginst the law in some states? the laws
> for sodomy being what they are.
That's Beastiality, not Sodomy - but you are correct otherwise....
* SLMR 2.1a * NEVER accept lemonaide from an Urologist....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1343
To: BILL GEE Date: 08/20/93 1:43p
Subj: TOSHIBA 3401 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>1) ASW-410, available from Adaptec for US$80 (approx)
$55 or so (US) from Hamilton-Avnet - and horribly overpriced even at THAT
price. You also MUST have the ASW-1410 (or equivilent for your card if it's a
1522 not a 154x or 174x) ASPI drivers, at another $55 or so.
>2) CorelSCSI, available from many different software vendors including
Egghead.
MUCH better choice.
BTW - Adaptec's "EZ-SCSI" package is a rebadged version of the Corel stuff....
* SLMR 2.1a * Vultures vs. Lawyers - vultures are NICER!!!!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1344
To: DAVID WILLS Date: 08/20/93 1:45p
Subj: ANIME CD? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Anyone here know of a CD with Anime (Japanese animation) on it?
Not specifically, but I've seen a few .GIFs taken from Anime....
* SLMR 2.1a * Mickey Mouse wears a Dan Quayle watch.
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From: BRUCE BOWMAN Number: 1345
To: ALL Date: 08/21/93 6:11a
Subj: Disk needed Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone know where I can get a CD-ROM with an environmental theme?
--- FreeMail/QuickBBS 2.76a Ovr
* Origin: ** The H.O.M.E. BBS (317)539-6579 ** (1:231/710)
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 1346
To: ALL Date: 08/21/93 4:11p
Subj: Night Owl 9 $25 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
N i g h t O w l 9 . 0
******************************************************************
********* *********
*********** $ 25.00 a Copy !!! ***********
********* *********
*********** ***********
********* Ask for Barney *********
*********** ------------------ ***********
********* 1-800-638-5757 *********
*********** ***********
********* We Will NOT be out Sold *********
*********** ***********
******************************************************************
N i g h t O w l 9 . 0
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From: CHUCK OWENS Number: 1347
To: JAMES BROOKS Date: 08/21/93 10:30a
Subj: Re: jane's on cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I fyou are staioned at Misawa AB, you can cal me at DSN(or Autovon) 462-9669,
as I work at DDRW in Ca.
Chuck
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From: CARLOS BENITZ Number: 1348
To: GARY JOHNSON Date: 08/21/93 12:03p
Subj: Cd-Rom Games Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'll buy 7th guest from you for $35.
Carlos Benitz
415-647-2881 voice
415-641-0348 bbs
1:125/17 netmail
or in this or CDROM_SALE echos.
* SLMR 2.1 * Don't blame the tool for the murderer's work.
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From: ANDREW BELO Number: 1349
To: ALL Date: 08/21/93 9:14p
Subj: starting off Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
What do I need to start off with the bacic cd-rom. What is the best quality
and what is the best deal. please state what currancy your price
approximations are us or canadian
--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
* Origin: SEcureWare OS/2 BBS (1:163/317)
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From: RACHEL REPSTAD Number: 1350
To: TRAVIS CAMPBELL Date: 08/17/93 9:14p
Subj: Police Quest 4 (CD-ROM) Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TC>I didn't like the typeing interface.. I like the mouse!! Do you
TC>collect any other Sierra games? I have the King's Quest Series,
TC>The Space Quest Series, I have alot of the old versions of the
TC>games, because I have been to lazy to go buy the remakes! I also
TC>have Willy Beamish, & and few others here and there!
TC> Travis
I have at least 32 sierra/dynamix games. I love the King's Quest series and
King's Quest III would be my favorite. I have beaten all but King's Quest V. I
would have beaten that too but the packed file is corrupt in my disks. I can
get it from someone else though. I also have every space quest game except for
V. Space Quest III would probably be my favorite in that series. I also have
Willy Beamish and have beaten that too. I really like Conquests of Camelot.
Have you played that? There are a few arcade sections where you have a sword
fight and you joust with the black knight. I also like the eco-quest games! The
rainforest one is really cool. It is so awesome! You can't die in the discovery
series games! There are a few games that I really need to have, like Freddy
Pharkas and conquests of the longbow. I also want Leisure Suit larry 1. Do you
have any of these games?
--Rachel Repstad
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From: UDO SCHMIDT Number: 1351
To: ALL Date: 08/21/93 7:28a
Subj: SONY's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello ,
I have a Sony CDU-510 CD-Rom and i want to get in contact with other
users with this CD-Rom-Drive ... I need some technical Data .. or
even a documentation etc.
Thanx ,
Udo Schmidt
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* Origin: M.T.C. Online BBS [804-545-5083] (1:275/81.0)
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 1352
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/20/93 7:03p
Subj: PRECISION MAPPING Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MS>TITLE: Precision Mapping v 1.5b **UPDATE** (Improved city search)
Hi Mike. Can you give me a little help with using Precision Mapping? I
am having a little trouble figuring out how to get down to city level.
Since the instructions are virtually non-existent, I thought I'd ask
you. I am sure it is easy once you figure it out. I can put in a
zipcode and say go to, but as I try zooming in, there is nothing there.
I have tried several cities with the same result. I have tried using
the window, and the menu zoom, but the zoom on the panel only allows
zooming out, not in. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Jim...
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From: ERIC HO Number: 1353
To: ALL SYSOPS Date: 08/21/93 10:16a
Subj: Dr. Cd-rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello BBS SysOps,
Do you want to increase your file bases? Do you want to get the latest
shareware programs? If your answer is "YES", please try our CD-ROM !
* Dr. Windows Vol. I ------ Applications, Icons, Utilities, Desktops
, wallpaper and more.... for Windows 3.x
(Released in Jun. 1993)
* Dr. Music Vol. I ------ Players, converters, MIDI, WAV, VOC...
for SB or compatible sound card.
(Released in Jul. 1993)
* Dr. Shareware Vol. I ------ The latest collections ! More than 600MB.
Includes Windows NT, OS/2 2.1, RA2.x,
communication, clipart, programming,
database, business, utilities, BBS Door,
Windows, Wordprocessors.....
(Released in Aug. 1993)
┌───────────────┬────────────┬─────────────┬─────────┐
│ Title │ List Price │ SysOp Price │ 15+ pcs │
╞═══════════════╪════════════╪═════════════╪═════════╡
│ Dr. Windows │ @$39.95 │ @$19.95 │ CALL │
├───────────────┼────────────┼─────────────┼─────────┤
│ Dr. Music │ @$29.95 │ @$19.95 │ CALL │
├───────────────┼────────────┼─────────────┼─────────┤
│ Dr. Shareware │ @$34.95 │ @$19.95 │ CALL │
└───────────────┴────────────┴─────────────┴─────────┘
* Limited time offer and for BBS SysOps only! (thru 9-31-1993)
* All DR. CD-ROMs are BBS ready(w/full description, files.bbs).
* For more information, please F'req ACES.ZIP at 1:143/88 or 408-453-6250
* ACES.ZIP contains full description and all file lists. * F'req before you
place the order.
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* Origin: Bank of GIFs, Dr. Image BBS 408-453-6250 14.4K (1:143/88)
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From: LOYD CRAFT Number: 1354
To: ALL Date: 08/10/93 8:31p
Subj: Custom cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
**** Digital Enterprises ****
Custom CDROM Service
Our CDROM Recorder is fired up, and ready to serve you! We can
produce a Custom CDROM From your Tape backup, or your Hard Drive
overnight!
o Complete confidentiality assured. Your data will NOT be pilfered.
o Free up Megabytes of expensive magnetic media.
o BOTH 527 Meg and 650 Meg (60 and 74 minute) media available.
o Use as a master to transfer data to a pressing facility.
o Consolidate Smaller CD's onto one Disk.
o Great for: BBS Files, Document Imaging, Permanent Archival
Traveling Databases, Multimedia Presentations/Demos.
o In MOST cases, 24 hour turnaround is possible.
o Free shipping via Two day U.S. Priority Mail. Overnight Delivery extra
Pricing for Custom CD production:
o 527 Meg: o $1 per megabyte UP TO $139. NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE PAST 139MB
o Minimum charge $85 for less than 85MB.
o $50 for each duplicate after paying full price for the first.
o 650 Meg: o $1 per Megabyte UP TO $144. NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE PAST 144MB
o Minimum charge $90 for less than 90MB.
o $55 for each duplicate after paying full price for the first.
o CD Consolidation is a flat $50/$55 fee.
o UPS RED Label shipping is $15 extra.
Data formats Supported: Software Supported:
--------------------------- ----------------------- o 60/125/250MB
DC600/6XXX o Sytos Plus o Mountain Filesafe
Streaming Tape. o Everex Tape o PCTools
o QIC 40/80 (Colorado Jumbo 250) o PCTools o Colorado Software
o Floppy (At additional cost) o Fastback 3.0 o PCTools
o Hard Disk
Terms:
Prepay for service via Certified check or money order. Personal
checks must clear bank before production begins. SORRY, we are
not able to accept your Visa/Mastercard at this time.
*** ** *** ** *** ** Special ** *** ** *** ** ***
Orders placed ON or before August 31, 1993 qualify
for a 10% discount from our current pricing. *** ** *** ** *** ** Special
** *** ** *** ** ***
Notice:
Digital will NOT be a party to the creation of "elite", or pirated software
collections on CDROM. Such activity is morally WRONG and illegal. If this is
your intention, please do not waste my time or yours.
For further information, please File REQuest CDINFO from Fidonet Node
1:239/900.0 at V.32bis speeds, or call our voice number.
Digital Enterprises
Voice: 517-865-6800 - BBS: 517-865-6066 - Fidonet: 1:239/900.0
===
* OLX 2.1 * Hey Rockie! Watch me pull a Rabbit outta my hat!
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From: LOYD CRAFT Number: 1355
To: MARIO DI MAMBRO Date: 08/21/93 4:25p
Subj: Re: custom cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MDM> I was thinking about having this done for a while now. Just a
MDM> questions though:
MDM>1 -How would I get all the crap on my HD to you?
Tapes! QIC-40, QIC-80, or Streaming tape (DC6XX/6XXXX). Floppies if you
really want to torture me :), or I can xcopy from your hard drive if you want
to send that.
MDM>2 -If I put my HD on a CD can I use it straight
MDM> off the CD the same as I do now?
Essentially YES, except for the fact that your file names must follow ISO 9660
conventions. Specifically, the file names MUST be limited to characters A
through Z, 0 through 9 and the _ underscore character. Dashes, and
punctuation are not allowed. This is the clincher for most people.
MDM> 3 -Can I add more to the CD until it reaches 650MB
MDM> capacity or do I have to put 157MB (my HD size) on
MDM> seperate disks every time?
THAT is up to your CDROM drive. Is it multisession capable, or not?
Recordable CDROMs are great for SOME people's application. For instance, I
have made a CDROM for my own usage that has archives of the distribution disks
that my software for creating CDROMS came with, plus a recursive ZIP of the
entire partition that I work in. This has saved me at least 50 hours of setup
pains in the past couple months, since I can just unzip from the CDROM to my
hard drive and go. It also is a bit safer than magnetic media. I don't have
to worry about getting the disks erased. I've also placed a barebones Windows
setup in an archive onto my failsafe CDROM, and when Windows blows up it's
directory, I don't have to mess with sitting through a full install from
floppy. I just Unzip and go...
If you'd like, send me your address, and I WILL mail out a flyer when I have
them finished. It will be in the next couple weeks that I mail them.
Thanks for your inquiry,
Loyd Craft
Digital Enterprises
===
* OLX 2.1 * Error opening CLINTON.LIE - Cannot recover COUNTRY.USA
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From: LOYD CRAFT Number: 1356
To: ALL Date: 08/21/93 4:25p
Subj: Custom cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
**** Digital Enterprises ****
Custom CDROM Service
Our CDROM Recorder is fired up, and ready to serve you! We can
produce a Custom CDROM From your Tape backup, or your Hard Drive
overnight!
o Complete confidentiality assured. Your data will NOT be pilfered.
o Free up Megabytes of expensive magnetic media.
o BOTH 527 Meg and 650 Meg (60 and 74 minute) media available.
o Use as a master to transfer data to a pressing facility.
o Consolidate Smaller CD's onto one Disk.
o Great for: BBS Files, Document Imaging, Permanent Archival
Traveling Databases, Multimedia Presentations/Demos.
o In MOST cases, 24 hour turnaround is possible.
o Free shipping via Two day U.S. Priority Mail. Overnight Delivery extra
Pricing for Custom CD production:
o 527 Meg: o $1 per megabyte UP TO $139. NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE PAST 139MB
o Minimum charge $85 for less than 85MB.
o $50 for each duplicate after paying full price for the first.
o 650 Meg: o $1 per Megabyte UP TO $144. NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE PAST 144MB
o Minimum charge $90 for less than 90MB.
o $55 for each duplicate after paying full price for the first.
o CD Consolidation is a flat $50/$55 fee.
o UPS RED Label shipping is $15 extra.
Data formats Supported: Software Supported:
--------------------------- ----------------------- o 60/125/250MB
DC600/6XXX o Sytos Plus o Mountain Filesafe
Streaming Tape. o Everex Tape o PCTools
o QIC 40/80 (Colorado Jumbo 250) o PCTools o Colorado Software
o Floppy (At additional cost) o Fastback 3.0 o PCTools
o Hard Disk
Terms:
Prepay for service via Certified check or money order. Personal
checks must clear bank before production begins. SORRY, we are
not able to accept your Visa/Mastercard at this time.
*** ** *** ** *** ** Special ** *** ** *** ** ***
Orders placed ON or before August 31, 1993 qualify
for a 10% discount from our current pricing. *** ** *** ** *** ** Special
** *** ** *** ** ***
Notice:
Digital will NOT be a party to the creation of "elite", or pirated software
collections on CDROM. Such activity is morally WRONG and illegal. If this is
your intention, please do not waste my time or yours.
For further information, please File REQuest CDINFO from Fidonet Node
1:239/900.0 at V.32bis speeds, or call our voice number.
Digital Enterprises
Voice: 517-865-6800 - BBS: 517-865-6066 - Fidonet: 1:239/900.0
===
* OLX 2.1 * Dirty Deeds done dirt cheap!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 1357
To: RON CHASE Date: 08/22/93 1:40a
Subj: Re: US national phonedisc Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> I am looking for the above named disc sets.
>> NOT PROPHONE!
>> Does anyone sell or have info on these?
Ron, " Phone Disk USA " !! Comes in business or residental versions.
Have them both in stock if your interested. Give us a call at
216-225-3263 and we'll be glad to assist you further.
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... Simply more bang for your bucks!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 1358
To: ALL Date: 08/22/93 1:40a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
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Texel Int Complete Kit - $469.00 Texel Ext Complete - $569.00
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare - $449.00 Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$549.00
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit - $195.00 NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $799.00 Pioneer DMR604X Bare -$1199.
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50. ChestNuts CD's ALL $10.00ec
ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
... Happy as a Pig in Mud!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 1359
To: ALL Date: 08/22/93 1:40a
Subj: RED HOT SPECIAL Refer: NONE
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ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM PRICE - $35.00ec
MORE SPECIALS - AMATURE MODELS - GAME/SOUNDWARE PRICE - $25.00ec
PRO PHONE(BUS) $20. WORLD TRAVELER $10. JOKES/PRANKS OR 1001 UTIL $10.
KINGS QUEST VI $49. TOOLWORKS ENCYC - DOS/WIN $50.COMPTIONS ENCYC $60.
COMING SOON - BLACK BOX 5 - - - 24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK
CALL 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) OR 216-225-3263 FOR ADDITIONAL INFO
Boris Osadciw
... Mail Media. Do not expose to Flames!
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From: ROB LIBRIZZI Number: 1360
To: GLEN PIWOWARCZYK Date: 08/20/93 10:00p
Subj: FREE CDROM CATALOG! Refer: NONE
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Also Please send a catalog to:
Rob Librizzi
224 Pinedo Drive
Titusville, fl 32780
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From: RAY DYER Number: 1361
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/16/93 3:00p
Subj: BBS Shareware CD Refer: NONE
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BO> As a general rule, most shareware cd's today sell for around $25 - $29
you probably won't believe this, but Night Owl is selling in Canada for $75. I
only know of one store selling it so I am stuck, uless I go with mail order.
I bought a Mitsumi drive for $240can and enjoy it. Nice drive, but poor error
correction for the smallest scratch you can't feel, and can only see just
barely with certain light conditions.
(Must be due to the physical handeling of them)
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From: RAY DYER Number: 1362
To: MARK WOMACK Date: 08/16/93 3:05p
Subj: Mistumi/Sb/Sbpro Refer: NONE
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A little old message to me, may already been replied about it.
The speaker pin on some sound cards are used to tap onto the speaker output on
the MB. There may have been a small cable with one wire and on one end is the
4-pin connector with the wire on the very end, and the other end is the 2-pin
that goes onto the port. The internal speaker is then passed through the amp on
the SBP and goes through your speakers attached.
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From: RAY DYER Number: 1363
To: DAVID TAM Date: 08/16/93 3:11p
Subj: CD-Rom's? Refer: NONE
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I think the 6-Disk multi-change is available only at the corporate level
as our local public library here in Etobicoke (Toronto, Can) has one of
those 6-Disk drives for their catalogue, Multi-media TIME, M-M LIFE Mag, Metro
Library catalogue. And they also got 3 other stand-alone MPC drives attached to
the same computer. I could not tell if the 6-disk is MPC as it was locked away
seperate from the PC, but looked in the glass case they had it in behind the
counter.
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 1364
To: GIL GOLDFINCH Date: 08/21/93 5:46p
Subj: Cdrom Driver Refer: NONE
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Hi Gil!
On 08-19-93 Gil Goldfinch wrote to Rowan Evans...
GG> The problem I have was not conveyed accurately as my
GG> original message was condensed by the local 'moderator'. I
GG> have no problem with CD music thru the headphone jack or
GG> sound through the PAS 16 sound card. What I am looking for
GG> is the SCSI interface driver for an NEC CDR55 player and an
GG> audio cable between the CD and sound card. Thanks for the
GG> advice though. Any further help would be appreciated.
I may have already replied, but to recap (or provide info if I haven't),
the SCSI driver for the CD-ROM should be on the Install disk for the
PAS 16.... It was on the one I bought for work! For the cable, ring
Chips & Bits in Melbourne..... It may cost you $A10.00 or so...
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 1365
To: STEPHEN RETZLAFF Date: 08/21/93 5:47p
Subj: Re: Pas16 Refer: NONE
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Hi Stephen!
On 08-18-93 Stephen Retzlaff wrote to Rowan Evans...
SR> -=> Quoting Rowan Evans to Poe Lim on 14 Aug 93 13:39:04 <=-
SR>
SR> RE> Yeah, well, I'd like the Wave Blaster add-on for Wave Table
SR> RE> synthesis....
SR>
SR> PL> This is supposedly integrated in the chip itself; was
SR> PL> speaking with a dealer (we exchange info on products) and
SR> PL> he mentioned Computamart did mention something along that
SR> PL> line, so......
SR>
SR> RE> NOT in the SB 16 ASP... It only uses FM synthesis as far as I can
SR> RE> decipher the doco!
SR>
SR> The WaveBlaster is a full wave table synth. It is shipped as a half
SR> length Daughter board that plugs on to the MIDI connector on only
SR> the SB16 ASP. It has a MT32 emulation and works great with all
SR> MIDI files. Also has full GM compliance. Bought mine in Perth for
SR> AUS$235.
Yeah that's what I thought.... I'll pass at the moment....
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 1366
To: RICH RUBIN Date: 08/21/93 6:18p
Subj: Questions... Refer: NONE
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Hi Rich!
On 08-18-93 Rich Rubin wrote to All...
RR> Greetings All,
RR> It's been a week since I sent out my last message and I've goten
RR> exactly ZERO answers. This leads me to believe that my message didn't
RR> get out.
I saw it thought others would have responded!
RR> Can anyone tell me some info on the cdrom 'JUTLAND'? Is it
RR> good, bad, or what...
Dunno... Looks interesting off the box and is the sort of thing that I'm
interested in..... But $A90.00 or so is a lot of money for a game!
RR> If a cd player is 'rated' at, say 600 megs, and I put in a 700 meg
RR> cdrom, will the player 'read' the disk? I've been following this
RR> conference for awhile and this issue has not been dealt with [I
RR> think...].
From my understanding of the way things work, (here's where we start a
raging debate!), a CD-ROM track starts on the INNER edge of the disc.
This being the case, then it is possible that a drive that has a
restricted head movement (Mitsumis from what people have been saying and
some SONY CDU-31As) will not be able to access the start of the CD-ROM
and will thus read b*gger all on the ROM!
RR> I'm selling my MicroSoft 'ENCARTA'. I'll part with it for $125.
RR> First come, first served...
Hope you find a sucker.... Encarta's a dog in a pretty suit!
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 1367
To: MARTIN WINTERBERG Date: 08/21/93 6:26p
Subj: S: CD ROM fuer Notebook Refer: NONE
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Hi Martin!
On 08-15-93 Martin Winterberg wrote to Alle...
MW> wer kann mir sagen, ob es eine Moeglichkeit gibt ein CD ROM
MW> Laufwerk an meinen Notebook Rechner (486 SX, 25 MHZ)
MW> anzuschliessen.
MW> Dockingstation ist leider nicht lieferbar. Mein Rechner hat eine
MW> serielle,
MW> eine parallele Schnittstelle und einen PS/2 Tastaturanschluss.
English please!
From what my understaning of German is, you have a 486SX/25 notebook
with 1 serial, 1 parallel and one PS/2 mouse/keyboard port....
You can't get a docking station and want to add a CD-ROM drive....
It'll be SLOW, but what you can do is get an external SCSI CD-ROM
drive NEC CDR-74-1, Texel, etc and connect it via a Trantor Mini SCSI
cable that will connect to your parallel port.....
As I said, it'll be SLOW, but you'll be able to access CD-ROMs... (Just
don't try to run The 7th Guest!)........
Cheers & Beers!
o
/U\
PS Hopefully someone can translate this at your end if you don't
read/speak English!
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 1368
To: SAM JONES Date: 08/21/93 6:40p
Subj: Panasonic BenchMrk Refer: NONE
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Hi Sam!
On 08-19-93 Sam Jones wrote to Rowan Evans...
SJ> RE> How did you select "Normal" mode?? Did you put the
SJ> RE> (?? I think its /N or
SJ> I selected the mode with the Creative program CDSETUP
SJ> that came with the driver disk.
OK. SETUPCD puts /S:N0 for normal speed in the SBDC.SYS line...
SJ> RE> The thing is, if it plays an Audio CD fine, then the 150Kbps
SJ> RE> mode is working properly and who in h*ll wants to run at
SJ> RE> 150Kbps for data anyway??
SJ> Yeah, I would not want to run the data at that speed but I just
SJ> wanted to make sure that I was using the double-speed mode (remember
SJ> I have never used or seen another CD-ROM drive before).
SJ> All of my progrmas run OK except for one problem and it is
SJ> a noticeable one though. When playing either the KQ6 CD or
SJ> DOTT CD there are pauses in the Video and Audio
SJ> (WaveBlaster and FM synth) whenever the CD is accessed.
Yeah, unfortunately this is usual... Happens to me in T7G (noticeable
when turning around if a tune is playing) but ts a lot better than when
I tried to run it on a PAS 16 with attached SONY CDU-31A!
SJ> The audio pause is usually not very noticeable but with the
SJ> audio you can hear the music slow-down. There is never any
SJ> "break-up"in the digitized speech though (which seems to be
SJ> most people's problem.
SJ> Have you ever experienced this and can you offer any advice
SJ> on how to correct the situation?
Sorry... I think its one of those things you have to live with! If
you think its bad, try running on a friends (or dealers) single
speed drive.... THEN you'll know why you bought the CR562B!
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: POE LIM Number: 1369
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/21/93 11:46p
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
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Hello Rowan,
On Aug 18 20:41 in a msg to Don Kulha, Rowan Evans of 3:711/413 wrote:
> Why?? Are you using "heavy duty" CD-ROM drives?? The MTBF spex for
> caddy and caddyless drives are similar... and when you look at the
> high end NEC drives, they're using motorised eject for their caddy
> so the mechanics are similar! (And they have to open a shutter!)
Isn't the MTBF for the Panasonic 30,000H? The Toshiba is 50,000H, but again,
the MTBF doesn't prove a thing. The motorised ejects are a convinience, not a
necessity; the Toshiba has an recessed mechanical eject button as well. The
main advantage of the motorised ejetc is that I can eject a disk from the
CD-ROM icon, without having to touch the drive.
> You've stated your opinion..... I'm interested and responsive, but
> I need *FACT* not *OPINION* before I'll change my stance from
> recommending caddyless drives...
The main advantage of a caddy system (IMHO) is when you frequently swap disks;
much easier having them in caddies, and merely shove them in, then having to
fiddle around with the case. You can also leave a few of them around and not
worry about scratches.
Cheers,
Poe
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From: POE LIM Number: 1370
To: KEN KNIGHT Date: 08/21/93 11:57p
Subj: Cd Rom Refer: NONE
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Hello Ken,
On Aug 12 09:52 in a msg to Poe Lim, Ken Knight of 2:2501/302.4 wrote:
> If this is the slow one that everybody seems to have that
> goes on the SBPro2, then drivers ARE availible from the OS/2 support
> BBS.
The 562 are the double speed readers.
Cheers,
Poe
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From: MARTIN TAYLOR Number: 1371
To: TERRY WOOD Date: 08/18/93 3:52p
Subj: Re: MORE CD'S ON SALE! Refer: NONE
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Hi Terry.
> Right, Well my name is Terry Wood and I'm from that little forgotten
> country of Australia!! I have posted a few people about getting CDRom
> discs from the states but as of yet not 1 reply :-(....
I must have posted such a message but I can't recall it. Anyway, I did get a
response. Someone sent me a catalog. I won't say who here. Anyway, my wife rang
them to enquire about Microsoft Encarta, the new encyclopaedia. Anyway, the
bloke there answers the phone. When Sheryl asked about Encarta, the person said
"what?". Sheryl repeated it. He still didn't know what she was on about.
Anyway, he asked her where she was calling from. Sheryl told her, Australia.
Anyway, this person had the bloody cheek to ask her to call back as he was on
another call. Sheryl said, understandably, no and hung up. If someone takes the
time and expense to call overseas you don't just fob them off like that, do
you?
I wonder if this is normal business practice in the US or just this particular
person's attitude.
I was going to order CDs from him, but after working out the exchange rate and
the cost of shipping, I have decided to give it a miss. Plus the person's
attitude annoyed me somewhat.
Anyway, I can give you the cattledog if you wish. You may have better luck than
I.
Cheers,
Martin
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From: STEPHEN HARRINGTON Number: 1372
To: MALCOLM YOUNG Date: 08/21/93 4:48a
Subj: Panasonic CR-562B Capacity Refer: NONE
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-= Malcolm Young said to Stephen Harrington about Panasonic CR-562B CD-ROM
drive.: =-
MY|What is the stated capacity of these drives and will they read all of the
MY|discs that are 700+ meg?
MY|The GIGABYTE GOLD disc has 730 Meg on it and the original SoundBlaster/
MY|Panasonic will only read the first 680 Meg or so.
I don't know the answer to this question as I don't have any disks that big
yet, and my drive came as a bare unit with NIL paperwork ... perhaps Rowan
Evans or one of the other resident Gurus will know the answer?
Regards,
Stephen Harrington
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From: LOONG CHUNG Number: 1373
To: ALL Date: 08/20/93 4:13p
Subj: Panasonic CDR-63 Refer: NONE
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Could any one give me full details on the Panasonic CDR-563?
e.g. Speed, transfer rate etc.
And how much is it in Australia?
Thanks
Loong
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From: VICTOR ZDANOWICZ Number: 1374
To: ALL Date: 08/22/93 11:24a
Subj: Panasonic/SONY Refer: NONE
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Does anyone know if Pannasonic CD-ROM drives are reliable?.. Also... Is it
possible to drive any CD-ROM drive from a SB16 or ASP16?
Vz.. Thanks
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From: ROB PERELMAN Number: 1375
To: ALL Date: 08/21/93 3:26p
Subj: CD Rom Requirements Refer: NONE
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I am buying a new computer soon with these specs:
486 DX-33
130 MEG IDE HD
Both Floppies
4 MB Ram
SVGA Monitor and card
Now I plan to run OS/2 v2.1 on this system and I am thinking about a
CD-Rom drive and maybe even a sound card. Now my question is, what kind
of CD-Rom drive and adaptors do I need to get to be compatible with my
IDE hard drive and OS/2? Please help me A.S.A.P. Thanks!
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From: STEVE GERWECK Number: 1376
To: DIANA KIRKSEY Date: 08/21/93 9:53p
Subj: CD Catalog Refer: NONE
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Hi Diana,
I was wondering if you could send me a catalog?
My adress is below.
... Steve Gerweck, 530 Concetta Drive, Monroe, MI 48161-3542
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From: MIKE AVILA Number: 1377
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/21/93 11:47a
Subj: 16 bit cards Refer: NONE
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*** Quoting Rowan Evans to Joel Dumas dated 08-18-93 ***
>
> Standard SCSI-1, with a S.L.O.W. 680Kbps max transfer rate! Although
The PAStudio16 is NOT SCSI-1, it IS SCSI-2. The Psectrun is SCSI-1.
*** Quoting Rowan Evans to Joel Dumas dated 08-18-93 ***
>
> A dealer tried to interest me in a PAS 16/Texel... They wanted over
> $1300.00 for the combo and, (they also sold the SB kit!) when SHOWN
WOW! That is an outragous price. I got the Texel drive and the PAStudio16 at
different times but from the same place and total cost including shipping was
under $750 (don't remember EXACT amount). Matter of a fact I believe it was
just under $725.
I am very happy with the combination. I like the Texel drive but I LOVE the
PAStudio16 very much.
Mike
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From: LARRY CHARPIAT Number: 1378
To: MARK WOMACK Date: 08/21/93 1:18a
Subj: Mistumi/Sb/Sbpro Refer: NONE
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The speaker connection on the Sound Blaster Pro is addressed in the
getting started manual that came with sound blaster pro. It is for the
positive and negative speaker leads that come from your mother board so
that you can rout sounds of games that are not written for sound blaster
and only come through your pc speaker will go through the sound blaster
card. You have to make sure you have the positive lead on the correct
contact or you can short something out.
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From: LARRY CHARPIAT Number: 1379
To: CHRIS BOURNE Date: 08/21/93 1:25a
Subj: CSS CD PRICE LIST Refer: NONE
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Your prices are high. I bought 7th Guest at Sam's Wholesale Club for
$46.00
It an awsome game but it will take awhile to get finished with it.
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From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 1380
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 08/22/93 12:59p
Subj: SOME DISK RECOMMENDATIONS Refer: NONE
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> There is something inherent in dos that makes getting the >
information on the file size, date, etc.... VERY slow especially > after you
exceed 4 or 5 hundred files in a directory. Some > programmers have
found a way around this problem... but I'll be > damned if I can figure out
how they do it.
BF> I can tell you how TBBS does it - it came up with a
BF> "pseudo-directory" format
BF> (text file description of available files) that allows
BF> the time/date/etc. to be
BF> INCLUDED in the description, thus limiting actual
BF> accesses to when a download is performed....
I was talking about the programming that builds such a list.
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 1381
To: BRIAN HIPPS Date: 08/23/93 7:08a
Subj: Files.bbs Refer: 3812
Read: NO Private: No
-> incompatible with the software I'm running. The author of the softwar
-> use the files.bbs format that is used in the Mega cd's. Is there any
-> that use the mega type files.bbs? And why don't we have a standard fo
-> files.bbs? One more question if I may what is the lastest version of
FILES.BBS is the most abused word in this business.... Long ago,
QuickBBS referred to their file listings as "FILES.BBS". This format
contained the file name, beginning on column #1, and a 45 byte file
description beginning on column #14. That's a FILES.BBS description
file.
Then someone came along & began sticking sizes and dates between the
filename & description... The "FILES.BBS" word survived. This was no
big deal, as most BBS packages that used FILES.BBS had to ability to
filter out the time & date.
Then someone came along & began calling PCBoard description files
"FILES.BBS".... A PCBOARD description ain't even close to being
"FILES.BBS". The reason most shareware CD ROMs contain PCBoard
descriptions is that they can easily be created from the FILE_ID.DIZs
now found within most archives. To edit a PCBoard description down to
FILES.BBS costs money & takes time, if the descriptions are to be made
meaningful and not "chopped off" at the 45th character. Shareware Studio
contains FILES.BBS description files, as does the Mega series and a few
others.
Here's a FILES.BBS description file:
FILES.BBS This description can be up to 45 bytes.
8LETTERS.ZIP This is another file description
.
.
.
tim
FILES.BBS historian
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 1382
To: BRUCE BOWMAN Date: 08/23/93 7:01a
Subj: Disk needed Refer: 3825
Read: NO Private: No
-> Does anyone know where I can get a CD-ROM with an environmental theme
Yep, but it's about a month from completion - all original & BBS ready!
tim
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From: JOSH PICHE Number: 1383
To: PAUL NUSBAUM Date: 08/22/93 7:48a
Subj: CD-Rom kit Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
That sounds great. I'm really considering getting a CD Rom, but it's kind of
tough to make a decision. For instance, I don't know if it's really worth it
to spend extra cash for this multispin technology. Plus, these sound card + cd
rom kits look pretty good, but then you've got to decide on the sound card too.
But with all the great CD stuff on the horizon and in the stores now, stuff
like 7th Guest, Iron Helix, Rebel Assault, I'll just have to get one. Later
Josh Piche
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From: JOSH PICHE Number: 1384
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 08/22/93 7:54a
Subj: Police Quest 4 (CD-ROM) Refer: NONE
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I've heard that the CD rom version will be out around the same time as the disk
version. Will the CD version include extra stuff, or is it just on CD?
Josh Piche
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From: BOB JENKINS Number: 1385
To: ALL Date: 08/22/93 8:56a
Subj: Catalog wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have seen posts here relating to catalogs being mailes on request...
would any dealers here please add my name to your mailing list. Thanks.
B.P.Jenkins
RR#6
Smiths Falls, Ont.
CANADA
K7A 4S7
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From: BOB JENKINS Number: 1386
To: ALL Date: 08/22/93 8:58a
Subj: Buying from the U.S. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello. I am a new CD-rom owner,interested in purchasing from the U.S. Up
here in Canada, the prices are...well...scary! I would like to know what is
involved ie. customs/duty etc. Thank You.
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 1387
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 08/22/93 5:19a
Subj: Re: TRANTOR SCSI CONTROLLER Refer: NONE
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BF> >Thanks Bill I beleive I may purchase the Adaptec
BF> controller.. Sounds like a
BF> >wise investment in the long run!
BF> Only if you plan to run OS/2 in the near future -
BF> otherwise, save yourself some
BF> $$ and a LOT of support grief and get an Allways IN-2000.
Have you called their tech support lately?
BF> I've RUN the Adaptec stuff - nice controllers, but I
BF> could get NO support out
BF> of Adaptec, even as a DEALER. Always I never NEEDED
BF> support for - they just
BF> WORK!
I could say the same for my Adaptec 1742. However, I have required
some support for some of the devices I have plugged into the 1742, and Adaptec
has been quite helpful. I have heard several reports of people having had
problems in the past with Adaptec when it comes to tech support, but apparently
they have really beefed up their support staff and their attitude has done an
about face some time in the last three years.
Les
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From: NITIN N. GUPTA Number: 1388
To: POE LIM Date: 08/22/93 1:04a
Subj: Pas16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Sorry, but I am not familiar with os/2. Is it better than win3.1 or win NT
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From: CHRIS CLEMSON Number: 1389
To: CRAIG DOBIE Date: 08/15/93 6:16p
Subj: CD BBS Files Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Craig Dobie to All <=-
CD> I know there are some sharewhere CD's formated for BBS's (FILES.BBS)
CD> I was wondering if anyone has one or knows where I can get ahold of
CD> one.
Chestnut CD-ROM Inc do their catalog in .BBS format.
They are at PO Box 360
Cambridge
MA
02141-0004
Tel : 617-864-8326
Fax : 617-864-8327
(Well, they were in 1992 !)
These are the only kind I have, and I guess most others do the same.
Or at least some kind of text files.
Bye,
Chris
... There's no future in existentialism.
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From: CHRIS CLEMSON Number: 1390
To: ARNIE GROSS Date: 08/15/93 6:20p
Subj: Font CD Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
-=> Quoting Arnie Gross to All <=-
AG> CD-ROMS for sale - $18.00 each (incl. shipping)
AG> FontMaster CD Library - High quality fonts (NOT shareware), complete
Hi, What types of fonts are these ?
If TrueType I would be interested. Would $18 include shipping to the UK ?
Chris
... A confident manner is important, as computers can sense this! :-)
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From: INA STERK Number: 1391
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/20/93 12:31a
Subj: Night Owl 9.0 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Mike,
Yesterday (August 19th) the CD-ROM arrived. Works great!
It's a pleasure doing bussines with you. 'Till next time.
Greetinx,
-= Ina =-
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From: RON DWIGHT Number: 1392
To: ALL Date: 08/19/93 9:11p
Subj: Help! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Y'all,
Can someome please tell em where I can use my FidoNet node number to
Frew EZROM120.ZIP or a later version. I am in serious need of trying a door
for multiple CDs under Maximus. Willing to poll the US for it, but would
rather it was around in Europe. Thanks in advance.
Cheers,
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From: RON DWIGHT Number: 1393
To: LOUIS GHINIS Date: 08/20/93 4:37p
Subj: Cd-rom Help! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi,
>-> really do it on my own because it would be purely taking stabbs in
>-> the dark. I have 4 major drivers I need to have: STACKER 48k,
>-> MTMCDE.SYS, MCDEX.EXE 144K (64 BUFFERS) and PC-CACHE 1M. It can't
>-> load all four
Using the /E switch on MSCDEX, with expanded memory available, will
put all the buffers out of conventional memory, saving a bundle.
Cheers,
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From: ANDREAS BERGER Number: 1394
To: MARK WOMACK Date: 08/18/93 7:36p
Subj: Cd-rom Help! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> the
> dark. I have 4 major drivers I need to have: STACKER 48k,
> MTMCDE.SYS,
> MCDEX.EXE 144K (64 BUFFERS) and PC-CACHE 1M. It can't load all four
> of these high no matter what order they're in. I just can't
> understand
> that because I have 4 Megs of ram. I guess there's a few things I
> don't
> know about memory. I always thought that you could load stuff high
> until you ran out of extended or expanded memory but I guess that's
> not true.
That is definitly not true. You can load programs high until you reach the 1 MB
limit, but subtract all ROMS (System, Adapters an the like) and Videoram (for a
VGA 64KB and another 16KB) and so on. Since you have MANIFEST (it came with
QEMM), use it. It will show you the distribution of these types of Memories
(Option: FirstMeg).
/\ FIDO 2:244/1372.8
/__\ INTERNET aberger@rbg.th-darmstadt.de
/ \ndreas Berger LOCATION Hessen, Germany, Europe
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From: LOUIS CARRESI Number: 1395
To: MARIO DI MAMBRO Date: 08/18/93 7:35a
Subj: Re: * x-rated cd-rom * Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=( Mario Di Mambro might recently have said to Louis Carresi about Re:
* x-rated cd-rom * )=-
GS> Why would anyone want to see animals going at it???
JL> I believe he meant animals AND people...
LC> Why would anyone want to see animals AND people going at it???
MDM> I would love to see animals and people going at it!!! Some
MDM> people enjoy seeing things that are different and
MDM> extraordinary. I never saw the original message...How can I get
MDM> that CD?
Don't ask me, neither did I.
Regards,
Louis
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From: MARK PALMER Number: 1396
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/17/93 6:50p
Subj: Re: encyclopedias et al Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Mike Shannon <=-
MS> We have the Grolier's Illustrated version 2.0 at $35. The MPC version
MS> is $48. Call any time if interested.
MS> STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892
MS> (VOICE) VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50
MS> ea pc over 5
Mike
What would shipping to the UK cost????
Mark...
... My other vehicle is a Galaxy Class Starship ...
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From: MARK PALMER Number: 1397
To: ALL Date: 08/17/93 6:50p
Subj: Catlogue Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please could any CD vendors send me a copy of their catalogue to:
Mark Palmer
27 Maple Way
Cranfield
BEDFORD
England
MK43 0DW
Or NetMail it to me.....
C H E E R S!!!
... "Transporter chief , beam the landing party to the bridge"
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From: ANDY MORRISON Number: 1398
To: ALL Date: 08/17/93 10:21p
Subj: Panasonic cd-rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Help!
I've been offered a new PANASONIC twin speed CDROM with 16bit sound card,
speakers, "The 7th Guest", "Dune" plus 5 other cd titles for £499.00
Being new to this can anyone tell me if this is a good buy or not?
We all know what sales people are like, they'd sell thier own mothers for the
commision!
Would appreciate a quick reply if possible from anyone.
Many thanks
Andy Morrison
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From: GRAHAM MURPHY Number: 1399
To: TOM GUELKER Date: 08/17/93 12:13p
Subj: Cd-rom Help! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message originally to DAVID CALVIN, TOM GUELKER said:
TG> Why not take a listen to your audio CD's on your computer?
TG> Hook it up to a decent sound card, and use MCS Stereo as the software
TG> interface, and you'll be throwing your audio CD player out the window
TG> fast! I'm hooked!
I've not come across a CD-ROM drive that's as good as my CD player... So I
won't throw it out the window! But its nice to use when I'm useing the
computer, otherwise I use my CD player!
Graham
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From: GRAHAM MURPHY Number: 1400
To: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Date: 08/17/93 12:25p
Subj: Re: New Mpc Specs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message originally to HENRY PAUL, Giuliano Maciocci Jr. said:
GJ> A word if I may, what's that about the 8k cache? I suspect I am amazingly
GJ> wrong here in interpreting your response, but anyway my DX-40 has a 128K
GJ> cache (AMD)
The 486series has an INTERNAL cache to the processor, and this is highly
optimized (and V fast). the cache you are talking about is *EXTERNAL* to the
chip, and not as fast.
Graham.
Apologize for being off topic.
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From: GRAHAM MURPHY Number: 1401
To: SHAUN RADER Date: 08/17/93 12:31p
Subj: 7th guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message originally to David Eagen, Shaun Rader said:
DE> Is there a fix out for T7G that supports S3 video boards yet?
SR> I don't think Virgin Games is planning on supporting the S3
SR> video boards. I read that they said the S3 boards are just too slow.
SR> That's too bad because I have an S3 video board... and it seems to work
SR> fine in Windows.
Thats about all it does work well with. S3's are no good for anything other
than windows - T7G doesn't use the accelerator stuff, because none of it is any
good for the video.
Graham
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From: GRAHAM MURPHY Number: 1402
To: CARLOS BENITZ Date: 08/17/93 12:33p
Subj: Magnto-optical disc Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message originally to Henry Paul, Carlos Benitz said:
CB> I'm surprised. I didn't know it was possible to make a
CB> magnetic beam. How is it done?
It's not a magnetic beam.. The laser heats up the coating in the disk, which
can then change states. If the coating isn't hot, it isn't possible for it to
change state. Its a clever trick.
Graham
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From: ADAM EDWARDS Number: 1403
To: NICK PETKOVICH Date: 08/18/93 12:24p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Drives?? Refer: NONE
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NP> 100 Pounds!! Who are you trying to kid, I can get SCSI CD-ROM drives
NP> for 175+vat. (Or maybe even less)
Hi Nick, which ones do you get for that price? I'm in London and after
a SCSI CD-ROm drive with a 200ms access time a 300k/sec data transfer
rate. Whats the best deal on something like this?
See ya
Adam
London, UK
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From: NICHOLAS GOLDWYN Number: 1404
To: MIKE WARWICK Date: 08/16/93 5:19p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Controller Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting MIKE WARWICK to BORIS OSADCIW <=-
MW> 'Scuse me for coming in here, but do you know where I can get a
MW> *driver* for a Mitsumi drive (proprietary controller card), that will
MW> work with OS2 2.1?
There isn't an official one, yet - IBM are rumoured to be working on it.
MW> Nearest place I could find was Stuttgart, Germany.
The Toktronix driver does not support MM yet - again, they claim to be
working on it. The is also a driver available from Cosette in Florida
- but again no MM support.
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From: MARCUS STUART Number: 1405
To: JURRIE HOBERS Date: 08/15/93 9:18p
Subj: RE: MOD CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Jurrie Hobers to Jim Maricondo <=-
-=> Quoting Jim Maricondo to Jurrie Hobers <=-
JM> ─Re: Re: MOD CD-ROMs
> Here in The Netherlands, Europe, we have a cd called: The Ultimate Mod
> collection with a large number of MOD files. I do not know if this cd is
> also at your place.
JM> Do they export it? (i.e. would I ever have a chance at finding it
JM> here? :) Or is it a US import in the first place?
JH> I van get it for you Jim!
JH> So let me know if you are still interested.....
JH> Jurrie!
Hi Ya !
I saw this message and i thought WOW a whole CD full of mods !!
I run a small bbs with 300 mod files or so in the uk and just wondered
if you could possibly tell me where i could get hold of this amazing cd
mentioned above ?
Thanks
|\/|
| |arcus Stuart Quantum Leap BBS
... WARNING! Removal of this tagline prohibited by law!
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From: JAN MARTEN ERIC ELZINGA Number: 1406
To: DONALD WEN Date: 08/20/93 2:19p
Subj: te koop diverse cdrom Refer: NONE
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Hello Donald!
15 Aug 93 15:41, Donald Wen wrote to Jurrie Hobers:
DW> By the way, are you Finnish?
No, he is Dutch.
DW> DONALD WEN
Yo!,
Johan
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From: CHRISTOPHER SPATZ Number: 1407
To: 1:120/288 Date: 08/21/93 7:06p
Subj: Need File List for.... Refer: NONE
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Dear Disk Jockey's HOTLINE! 1:120/288
Hello Monster Media Staff,
I talk to someoen from your staff. I asked for a compressed file
containing the file listing for PCBoard. I need the listing including
the file name, file size, file date, file descriptions. I you receive
this message could you upload the file to Digitial Obession Reading VIA
FIDOnet or Call my board direct High Voltage Systems BBS (215) 373-1203.
I don't have FIDOnet but would like to put up this CD-ROM ASAP.
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1408
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/22/93 12:24a
Subj: Virtual Disk Refer: NONE
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BO>>> I saw a show on HBO featuring a CDROM that was a Virtual
BO>>> Reality disk. Anyone heard of this, and know where it
BO>>> is available?
BO>Only available in MAC not IBM!
Release 2 will reportedly be available in both formats.
Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1409
To: INA STERK Date: 08/22/93 12:24a
Subj: did you get it? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
IS>On August, 7th, I sent you a fax (ordering Night Owl 9.0).
IS>Did you receive this fax?
Ina,
Yes we did indeed, and thank you for the order. The CD was shipped
out on Monday, Aug. 9th by insured Air Mail. These can run anywhere
from 5 days to 2 weeks for overseas shipping, depending on location,
customs, etc. Let me know if you don't see anything in the next week
or so, and I will follow up on it for you.
Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1410
To: KEITH SPEARS Date: 08/22/93 12:24a
Subj: Bibles & Religion Refer: NONE
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KS>Do you still have the Bibles & Religion CD for $10?
Sorry Keith, our special purchase stock is gone on those, but they are
in stock again at the regular price of $13.00.
Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1411
To: ALL Date: 08/22/93 12:24a
Subj: CD LIQUIDATION! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
STARVECTOR CD-ROM LIQUIDATION SPECIALS!
Q & A 4.0...........$34 Powerpak Gold 3.0...$15 House of Games......$20
Compton's Interact..$95 US Wars: Korea......$29 US Wars: Des. Storm.$29
Super CD 2..........$15 Super CD 1..........$14 Programmers Megapak.$29
Canadian Shareware..$19 MAC Shareware.......$22 Clipart Heaven......$19
5Star Prem. Windows.$27 Otherware I.........$17 Jedi Collection.....$39
History of Jazz.....$45 Hacker Chronicles...$24 Reel Clips..........$35
Kodak Photo CD......$18 Phoenix 3.0.........$12 Game Arena..........$10
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1412
To: ALL Date: 08/22/93 12:25a
Subj: 7TH GUEST ONLY $39! Refer: NONE
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7TH GUEST SPECIAL OFFER!
PRICE: $39!! In stock, ready for immediate delivery.
MINIMUM Requirements: 2 Megs RAM * 386DX CPU * 16 bit SVGA video card
with at least 512K RAM * CD-ROM Drive w/ 150K per second minimum transfer
rate * Sound card w/ FM and PCM sound * Mouse * Hard drive w/ 10 Megs free
MSCDEX 2.2 or higher * DOS 5.0
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: STEVE MCKAIN Number: 1413
To: EDWARD PALMER Date: 08/22/93 9:28a
Subj: NEC CDR-25 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
EP>It is a true SCSI drive. The interface card is the Trantor T130b.
EP>ASPI drivers and an ASPI manager are available from the NEC BBS.
EP>This means that it can be daisy chained with any ASPI-compatible
EP>SCSI device. Hope this helps.
Thanks for the information Ed. It did help a lot.
Steve
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From: STEVE MCKAIN Number: 1414
To: ERIC HO Date: 08/22/93 9:30a
Subj: NEC CDR-25 Refer: NONE
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EH> > I'm looking for information about the NEC CDR-25 CD ROM
EH> > drive, ie: access times, reliability, and can this drive be daisy
EH> > chained, that kinda stuff.
EH>The access time is around 800ms, SCSI 1, can't be daisy chained (last one)
EH>not reliable. (There are many many refurbished drives in North California,
EH>$159.00 ea.) I bought 3, but 2 of them were bad again. Are they good??????
Thanks Eric, I appreciate the information.
Steve
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From: STEVE MCKAIN Number: 1415
To: MICHAEL KONOR Date: 08/22/93 9:34a
Subj: SCSI CDROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MK>SCSI CDROMs For Sale:
MK>Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM External $200.00
Is this drive daisy chain able???
Steve
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From: CHARLES HORSEY Number: 1416
To: MICHAEL BERNSTEIN Date: 08/21/93 11:21p
Subj: CD COMPAT W/DOS 6 Refer: NONE
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DS> try to log on drive S (my CD), it says "Invalid drive specification".
What do you have lastdrive set to in your config.sys?
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From: DON SPROUL Number: 1417
To: ALL Date: 08/21/93 1:06a
Subj: Gravis Ultrasound Card and CD-Rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi,
I have a Mitsumi CD-Rom and I have an Gravis Ultrasound card that emulates a
Soundblaster by software. My audio is very choppy and video with audio is
choppy as well. Video alone is fine. I am using port 220, and IRQ 5 for the
sound card, and I am using port 300 and IRQ 10 for the CD-Rom drive. Can
anyone PLEASE help me. I don't want to change my sound card again. I like the
Gravis, and it hasn't given me any problems until now.
Thanks
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From: SAM JONES Number: 1418
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/22/93 11:04p
Subj: Panasonic BenchMrk Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SJ> on how to correct the situation?
RE>
RE> Sorry... I think its one of those things you have to live with! If
RE> you think its bad, try running on a friends (or dealers) single
Hello, Well after playing around with the newer version of SBCD.SYS (6/93) I
can now definately say that all of my audio problems are GONE! The slight
video pause is still there (though now barely noticeable) and I can live with
it! I am so glad that this was a driver problem!
Later, Sam
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From: DAVID BURKE Number: 1419
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 08/22/93 9:24p
Subj: Thanks Refer: NONE
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-> DB> I think there should be a HARDWARE ONLY CDROM echo
-> DB> SOFTWARE ONLY CDROM echo
-> DB>
->
->
-> Here's an interesting suggestion!
Sometimes I am looking for help on software, or for new and
interesting CD titles, at other time I might need to know about,
how to run several CD drive under DESQview or OS/2. I would even
go one more and say an ADULT ONLY CDROM echo. I don't mind the traffic,
but I don't have time to pick through 100s of messages to pick out the
one on hardware or new titles etc.
I understand at one time CDs were a neat new item few had, but they
are getting as common as hard drives. Just a thought ;-)
-=- Dave
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From: CR HAMILTON Number: 1420
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 08/22/93 7:52p
Subj: CD-Rom Dupes Refer: NONE
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Jim Lambert wrote in a message to Wayne Finlay:
>How recent is the Big Sky Rom? Is it newer than Night Owl 9.0?
JL>
JL> Hi Wayne,
JL>
JL> Big Sky Rom was released very recently, but it does not
JL> concentrate on 1993 files only. It also doesn't have a lot
JL> of "false" or altered dates in order to make that claim.
JL> Each file on Big Sky was hand picked and includes a
JL> file_id.diz description file in each archive. It includes a
JL> wide range of dates, but does not include a bunch of filler
JL> files to make a full disc. The zip date is based on the
JL> largest file in the archive. I run Big Sky, Night Owl 9,
JL> Software Vault 2, and CD Winbox. My bulletin that shows
JL> downloads from CD-Rom shows that Big Sky has approximately
JL> twice the downloads of Night Owl 9, and close to three
JL> times the others. It has been a very popular collection on
JL> my board. I sell all four of these, so I am not trying to
JL> put down any of them. I just hate to see a great disc
JL> ignored because it contains some older files in addition to
JL> the newer ones. Thanks for asking!
What kind of prices do you get on these? And are they ready for bbs use (i.e,
files.bbs in each subdirectory?) I run Maximus, and just got a Panasonic w/
SCSI card, and am trying to determine the best way to proceed...
CR
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From: SHAUN RADER Number: 1421
To: DONALD WEN Date: 08/21/93 10:40p
Subj: Re: 7th guest Refer: NONE
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<<***** DONALD WEN wrote this on 08-17─93 {May be edited} *****>>
─>BTW, what card are you using now?
─>
─>DONALD WEN
I have the Diamond Stealth 24 ISA with 1 meg vram. It is a Windows
Accelerator and it has the S3 chip. I use Windows more often BECAUSE of
this card! I love it.. but too bad it wasn't great in DOS.
-Shaun Rader-
-Madman@Liberty.Com-
08/21/93 19:35
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From: SHAUN RADER Number: 1422
To: SAM JONES Date: 08/21/93 10:40p
Subj: Cd slow-down Refer: NONE
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<<***** SAM JONES wrote this on 08-20─93 {May be edited} *****>>
─> Has anyone else ever had this problem (with any CD-ROM drive)? It
─>seems to me as if it could be a driver problem or something, as the
─>drive seems very fast and once it starts reading everything is smooth.
─>My driver (SBCD.SYS) is dated 4/93 while the drive was manufactured in
─>July '93.
─> I'd appreciate any advice or views on this matter.
─>Thanks, Sam
I have a regular speed CD-ROM drive (150K per second) and I have DOTT.
I do get slow down when the CD is reading the digital sounds. I guess
it's just something I have to put up with. It stops the animation most
of the time, but I can live with it (I think I have to). I have
SBPCD.SYS dated 2/92! I don't know if I can get a newer version for my
SBPro.. I haven't tried.
-Shaun Rader-
-Madman@Liberty.Com-
08/21/93 22:02
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From: GERALD RYCKMAN Number: 1423
To: LOUIS GHINIS Date: 08/20/93 11:29p
Subj: WHERE TO BUY CD'S Refer: NONE
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LG>> I was wondering where do you buy your cd disc's? There are some
>>canadians that sell them overpriced than u.s. prices and was wondering
>>which is the best place to shop?
Well, I don't have a specific place for purchasing my discs. I just
shop around here and there. I don't really go to the store with the
cheapest either...a couple of bucks difference is no big deal. Well,
Wise Guys Computer is my favorite...they are ultra-expensive and they
don't take refunds. There's also this mail order company that is
located near my place....CD Source Canada. They have the most
selections but their prices are worst than Wise Guy's...usually around
50% to 400+% more than the next door. YES...I MEAN 400+%!!?!!?...and
you also need to pay to become a member. Amazing how some companies
have the guts to sell at the 3 or 4 times the LIST PRICE. For example,
I bought 7th Guest for $57. CDSC is selling it for $112. Also, Wing
Commander with Ultima IV. This CD every store in the whole world is
trying to get rid of it because it was old as hell and contains 17 megs
of files on a 650 meg CD. At $29, I call it expensive. And what do you
know...CDSC is selling it for $112. Ouch!! Well, just think of them as
Micro Drives Canada to the power 2 on CDs.
Anyways, there are several stores in Toronto that sells really cheap
CDs....like KLM Computers..but unfortunately, they don't have
much in stock. If you have the patience to wait for them to mail to
your doorstep, then KLM or Lance Electronics are definitely the place
to go. Otherwise, you might also wanna check out NTC Softwares. NTC is
famous for their cheap prices on entertainment softwares and quite a
average selection of CDs and application softwares and a pretty good
selection of floppy-based entertainment softwares. NTC runs pretty much
the same method as Future Shop where if you happen to find any store
selling anything cheaper than their retail price, they will not only
match that price PLUS 10% off. But then, Future Shop's claim is full of
poopoo...they never admit anything and they never agree with your claim
even after they verified their competitor's prices. I am not too sure
about NTC on this but I think I believe them more because the owner
seems like a pretty decent guy. Prices down in the states are quite
cheap but then, after currency conversion, shipping charges,
duties(3.9% tax), our lousy 7% GST, retirement funds for Brian
Mulroney, attack helicopter funds for Kim Campbell, etc, etc, they
became more expensive.
Overall, my personal opinion is, either NTC Softwares
(Kennedy/Huntingwood), Logic Computers (Woodbine Ave...across the
street of Wise Guys), and Steals Direct (Mississauga) are the best
places to go in terms of selections, in stock, and prices. But if you
have the same lifestyle and buying habits as Imelda Marcos where the
more selections the better and money is no object, then CD Source
Canada and Wise Guys Computers are the best places to go <grin>. Hope
this helps. Anyways, I think there are alot of other places where you
can go too. Well, simply flip over your Toronto Compute, Computer
Paper, or the Monday/Wednesday/Saturday issue of Toronto Star's High
Tech section, and check out their advertisements, I am sure you'll
find alot of other good deals too.
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From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 1424
To: GERALD RYCKMAN Date: 08/21/93 2:58a
Subj: WHERE TO BUY CD'S Refer: NONE
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-> cheap but then, after currency conversion, shipping charges,
-> duties(3.9% tax), our lousy 7% GST, retirement funds for Brian
-> Mulroney, attack helicopter funds for Kim Campbell, etc, etc, they
-> became more expensive.
Do they really charge duty for computer software? I remember just
last year I purchased turbo c++ and i only payed GST no duty or is it
different classification on cd rom disc's? Geez it is ridiculous they
promised that anything relating to computers would be duty free so far I
only see hardware being charged for duty when its not supposed to be in
the first place what do they classify a computer a machine and not a
computer? I placed a mail order for some cd's in the states total 120
american convert it around $160 cdn I payed $14.61 to customs so that is
just gst so I'm definately positive that they don't charge duty for
"computer software" anything else is subject to duty.
-> 50% to 400+% more than the next door. YES...I MEAN 400+%!!?!!?...and
-> you also need to pay to become a member. Amazing how some companies
-> have the guts to sell at the 3 or 4 times the LIST PRICE. For
-> example, I bought 7th Guest for $57. CDSC is selling it for $112.
-> Also, Wing Commander with Ultima IV. This CD every store in the whole
-> world is trying to get rid of it because it was old as hell and
-> contains 17 megs
-> of files on a 650 meg CD. At $29, I call it expensive. And what do
-> you know...CDSC is selling it for $112. Ouch!! Well, just think of
-> them as Micro Drives Canada to the power 2 on CDs.
That is really stupid CDSC selling 7th guest for $112 I got a copy of
consumer's distrubted and even they are selling 7th guest for $67. I'd
say 7th guest is an amazing disc WELL worth the $50-70 for it I read the
manual and found out that the SECOND disc is partly a ibm cd rom cd and
also a audio cd so I put on the audio cd player and it has 15 different
songs on the same track which I was surprised they sell ya the game plus
throw in a cd audio on the second disc.
-> Anyways, there are several stores in Toronto that sells really cheap
-> CDs....like KLM Computers..but unfortunately, they don't have
-> much in stock. If you have the patience to wait for them to mail to
I've been to KLM looks like they sell more cd software the diskette
software because I see more cd's than disk version of games and stuff.
I like how they allow you to rent the cd's too.
-> don't take refunds. There's also this mail order company that is
-> located near my place....CD Source Canada. They have the most
-> selections but their prices are worst than Wise Guy's...usually
-> around
Too bad there wasn't a company like Columbia House if you haven't
dealt with columbia house they give you 6 cd's free and you only
purchase 6 of them at the regular price so its basically you get $20
cd's for $10. It would be nice if there was a mail ordering company
that would charge say for the first 4-5 cd's at regular prices and then
the other 4-5 cd's at the wholesale price or something like that the
only way this can happen is if some sort of company can step in and
actual act as the distributor and retailer all in one then it can be
done. The reason why the prices are the way they are is because there
is the software company which sells to the distributor distributor flips
it for whatever 50-100% and then the retailer flips it so there are 2
double flips if there was a retailer and distributor all in one the
prices would be much less.
Louis
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From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 1425
To: ALL Date: 08/21/93 3:04a
Subj: 7TH GUEST Refer: NONE
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Just for those who didn't read the 7th guest manual in the back the
second disc of 7th guest is partially for ibm cd rom data and also the
rest is 15 songs on cd audio so try it out on your cd audio player the
only disadvantage though all the songs are in track 2 only and not
individually seperate.
Louis
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From: PAUL NUSBAUM Number: 1426
To: JOSH PICHE Date: 08/22/93 4:35p
Subj: CD-Rom kit Refer: NONE
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JP> That sounds great. I'm really considering getting a CD
JP> Rom, but it's kind of tough to make a decision. For
JP> instance, I don't know if it's really worth it to spend
JP> extra cash for this multispin technology. Plus, these
I don't know a lot about CD ROMS to be honest, but from what I have heard,
the multispin technology could be a big feature in the near future, one that
would make it worth buying now. I haven't used the full advantages of the
drive yet so I can't say for sure, though.
-Pn
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 1427
To: ALL Date: 08/22/93 8:01a
Subj: WANTED Dealers Refer: NONE
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==========>>>>>> W A N T E D D E A L E R S <<<<<<===========
Wanting people to become Dealers, Or to distribute to Dealers
Call Mutli-Media and ask for:
Darrel Rivenbark
Cheapest Prices around !!!!
1-800-865-5354
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From: ARNIE GROSS Number: 1428
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/22/93 1:31p
Subj: Re: 7TH GUEST ONLY $39! Refer: NONE
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Mike -
MS> 7TH GUEST - $39! In stock, ready for immediate delivery.
Is this the complete package with the video? Does this version
require "T7G-FIX.ZIP" (not available via any local BBS in this
area) to run properly?
- Arnie :+}
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From: LON SEIDMAN Number: 1429
To: DAVID M. WHITE Date: 08/21/93 10:31p
Subj: NEC CD-Rom Refer: NONE
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David M. White wrote
+-------------------------------+
XXXI am looking at a NEC CD-Rom packaged as a "Fusion 16"
XXXpackage. Is anyone familiar with this drive and if so
XXXwould you recommend it as a good buy?
XXXAny information pro or con would be appreciated.
+-------------------------------+
If the included drive is an NEC multispin, then you shouldn't have any
problems whatsoever. I've owned the NEC CDR-84 internal for over a year
now without any problems at all. There are drives that are slightly
faster, but the difference is only by a few milliseconds. NEC's
quality is fantastic. In fact the quality is why the drives are so
expensive :).
... #include <mandatory_cute_tagline>
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From: ROBERT FOSTER Number: 1430
To: DCQWK Date: 08/22/93 8:14p
Subj: DROP Refer: NONE
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Control message generated by QMPro 1.50
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From: ROY COCHRUN Number: 1431
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 08/22/93 7:13p
Subj: Re: Mscdex/drivers Refer: NONE
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You> MSCDEX is rarely included with the drive
You> It is NORMALLY bundled with DOS
...
It has, to my knowledge, only been bundled with DOS 6 (and its various
revisions). It certainly didn't come with DOS 5 or any earlier
versions. It DID come bundled with my old Hitachi drive and with my
new Mitsumi drive. -- regards, Roy Cochrun
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From: ERIC HSIAO Number: 1432
To: GERALD RYCKMAN Date: 08/22/93 10:21p
Subj: Speedcache & disc caddies Refer: NONE
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Oops...my mistake...not MCSDEX 3.02, but rather, the PAS-16 SCSI driver version
3.02 -- sorry for the mixup.
- Eric
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 1433
To: ALL Date: 08/21/93 8:21a
Subj: CDROM forsale Refer: NONE
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Sound Galaxy NX Pro + Mitsumi CD-ROM ..........................$289.
CD-ROM Mitsumi CRMC LU-005S w/contlr 630MB, 350ms, Kodak comp. $179.
CD-ROM Sony 31A with controller ...............................$229.
CD-ROM Panasonic 522B for SB Pro 380ms w/caddy.................$195.
CD-ROM Panasonic 562B 320ms w/contlr caddyless 300k/s 64kcache.$279.
CD-ROM MicroSolution Parallel port 350ms 128k cache caddyless..$369.*
CD-ROM Texel DM-3024 SCSI, 265ms, 300k/sec transfer, 64k cache $399.
CD-ROM Toshiba MX3401b SCSI drive,Kodak comp.200ms, 256k cache $449.
Creative Lab Discovery 8. CD-ROM + SB Pro + 3 CDs + Speakers...$399.*
Creative Lab Discovery 16. CD-ROM+ SB 16 + 3 CDs + Speakers...$459.*
Call 310-602-2076 8AM-12PM, 6PM-9PM PST or mail order payable to: TRUC
16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723. Accept money order, COD $5extra
* OLX 2.1 TD * voice 310-602-2076.8am-12pm,6pm-9pm PST. Fax 310-402-7240
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 1434
To: ALL Date: 08/21/93 8:21a
Subj: $19 for CDROM titles Refer: NONE
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TRUC 16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723 fax 310-402-7240
Call 310-602-2076 8am-12pm, 6pm-9pm PST ask Wee Yung.
D/Generation with Mario Missing.$19* DTP Pro FM - Wave Clip-art......$29
Elec Lib of Art v.I or v.II.....$35 Essential home & bus. sharewares$19*
Family Education Programs Collec$29 Family choice/ Britannica.......$29
Family Doctor Dos/Mac...........$29 Great Cities Vol. I or V II.....$35
Guinness Disk of Record 93 MPC..$29 Guinness Disk of Records no MPC.$19*
Games Pack II...................$25 International Bus & Econ Atlas..$29
IBM OS/2 v2.1 upgrade...........$89 IBM OS/2 v2.1 regular...........$139
Jones In fast Lane MPC..........$19* Jets & Props MPC 2CDs...........$29
King's Quest V..................$19* Kodak Photo access..............$19*
Add $3 for shipping and handling. No exchange for difference titles.
* OLX 2.1 TD * voice 310-602-2076.8am-12pm,6pm-9pm PST. Fax 310-402-7240
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 1435
To: RACHEL REPSTAD Date: 08/21/93 8:21a
Subj: CD-ROM drives Refer: NONE
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RR>I would very much like any information on new or used CD-
RR>ROM drives for sale. 350ms or less please and SBPro
The Panasonic drive would hook direct to your SB Pro.
CD-ROM Panasonic 522B for SB Pro 380ms w/caddy.................$195.
CD-ROM Panasonic 562B 320ms w/contlr caddyless 300k/s 64kcache.$279.
MIDI cable for any sound card with Joystick port...............$19.
Price does not included shipping.
Call 310-602-2076 8AM-12PM, 6PM-9PM PST or mail order payable to: TRUC
16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723. Accept money order, COD $5extra
* OLX 2.1 TD * voice 310-602-2076.8am-12pm,6pm-9pm PST. Fax 310-402-7240
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From: ERIC HO Number: 1436
To: ALL BBS SYSOPS Date: 08/21/93 11:03p
Subj: Dr. CD-ROM shareware Refer: NONE
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Hello BBS SysOps,
Do you want to increase your file bases? Do you want to get the latest
shareware programs? If your answer is "YES", please try our CD-ROM !
* Dr. Windows Vol. I ------ Applications, Icons, Utilities, Desktops
, wallpaper and more.... for Windows 3.x
(Released in Jun. 1993)
* Dr. Music Vol. I ------ Players, converters, MIDI, WAV, VOC...
for SB or compatible sound card.
(Released in Jul. 1993)
* Dr. Shareware Vol. I ------ The latest collections ! More than 600MB.
Includes Windows NT, OS/2 2.1, RA2.x,
communication, clipart, programming,
database, business, utilities, BBS Door,
Windows, Wordprocessors.....
(Released in Aug. 1993)
┌───────────────┬────────────┬─────────────┬─────────┐
│ Title │ List Price │ SysOp Price │ 15+ pcs │
╞═══════════════╪════════════╪═════════════╪═════════╡
│ Dr. Windows │ @$39.95 │ @$19.95 │ CALL │
├───────────────┼────────────┼─────────────┼─────────┤
│ Dr. Music │ @$29.95 │ @$19.95 │ CALL │
├───────────────┼────────────┼─────────────┼─────────┤
│ Dr. Shareware │ @$34.95 │ @$19.95 │ CALL │
└───────────────┴────────────┴─────────────┴─────────┘
* Limited time offer and for BBS SysOps only! (thru 9-31-1993)
* All DR. CD-ROMs are BBS ready(w/full description, files.bbs).
* For more information, please F'req ACES.ZIP at 1:143/88 or 408-453-6250
* ACES.ZIP contains full description and file list.
* F'req before you place the order.
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From: STEPHEN KOVACSISS Number: 1437
To: MARLIN ROWLEY Date: 08/21/93 11:15p
Subj: EXPLAIN SOUND CARDS TO ME Refer: NONE
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MR}TurtleBeach, (4) Gravis' UltraSound (by the way, it's not TRUE 16-bit
}"playback") (5) Any of the other 8/16-bit sound boards that can record in
Where do find that the UltraSound is not TRUE 16-bit?
Stephen
* 1st 1.11 * Why did Kamakazi pilots wear helmets???
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From: DIANE PENCIL Number: 1438
To: BETH CORRIGAN Date: 08/20/93 2:58p
Subj: kodak photo CD Refer: NONE
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> Thanxs for the suggestion dianne hmm im wanna get one made
> before christmas for my mom do you know if they can do it > with the
negatives?
I believe so. Each store has a litle different policy. I don't know why you
wouldn't be able to send in negatives. It should be a little more expensive if
it's one shot of one neg and another shot off another.
The thing is, if you can get it done at Wall-Mart it should be less expensive.
Diane
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 1439
To: ALL Date: 08/23/93 3:31a
Subj: RED HOT SPECIALS Refer: NONE
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$$$$$$$ R E D H O T C D' S A T R E D H O T P R I C E S $$$$$$$
ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 - PRICE - $25.00ec
ALL NEW - SHAREWARE VAULT 2 - CD POWERBOX/WINBOX PRICE - $15.00ec
ALL NEW - HOT PIX 5 - DIGITAL DREAMS - SWIMWARE 93 PRICE - $25.00ec
ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM PRICE - $35.00ec
MORE SPECIALS - AMATURE MODELS - GAME/SOUNDWARE PRICE - $25.00ec
PRO PHONE(BUS) $20. WORLD TRAVELER $10. JOKES/PRANKS OR 1001 UTIL $10.
KINGS QUEST VI $49. TOOLWORKS ENCYC - DOS/WIN $50.COMPTIONS ENCYC $60.
COMING SOON - BLACK BOX 5 - - - 24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK
CALL 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) OR 216-225-3263 FOR ADDITIONAL INFO
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 1440
To: ALL Date: 08/23/93 3:31a
Subj: NEW ADDITIONS Refer: NONE
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ N E W A D D I T I O N S ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
LAN MASTER - 100mgs - 2255 files - Utilities, Programs, Text, & More!
Files.BBS Structure - PRICE - $29.
PRECISION - v1.5 - Most Complete Mapping Program Of It's Kind! With CAD,
MAPPING Zoom & Mouse Support + FREE Business Phone Book - PRICE - $79.
ROMATERIAL - Designer/Animated icons, Sound F/X in 6 languages, unique
cursors,blankers, celebrity impressions & More! - PRICE - $25.
KINGS QUEST- ALL NEW adventure game with Super Graphics & Sound.
VI - PRICE - $49.
ORDER LINE ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH - 216-225-3263 - FAX - 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: DAVID YIELDING Number: 1441
To: ALL Date: 08/21/93 2:41p
Subj: Chinon/Adaptec Refer: NONE
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Does anyone out there have a Chinon 435 on an Adaptec 1542b working?
mine will "see" the drive but tells me the media is invalid.
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From: SEAN CASTLE Number: 1442
To: GRAEME MERRALL Date: 08/22/93 6:29p
Subj: MULTIMEDIA PACK FOR SALE Refer: NONE
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I am very interested , keep this offer open.
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From: ROBERT HAWORTH Number: 1443
To: ANDREW BELL Date: 08/21/93 8:46a
Subj: looking.. Refer: NONE
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Andrew,
Does it mean if its BBS door compatible that it is just BBS ready. ie. just
have bbs.lst in each directory or is something else
required.
The Delta Multimedia CD-ROM is BBS Ready but I don't know about doors. It would
otherwise seem to meet your specs. 1993 print with permission of Simtel-20 but
not their co-operation in its production. It goes for about $60 Australian I
think. Netmail if interested.
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 1444
To: RON FINDLING Date: 08/22/93 9:18p
Subj: New Mpc Specs Refer: NONE
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Hi Ron!
On 08-17-93 Ron Findling wrote to Rowan Evans...
RF> > I take it you run OS/2?? I have programmed both for OS/2 and
RF> > Windows, and don't find either to be excruciatingly easy to
RF> > program for....
RF>
RF> Yup, I do use OS/2, and you're right, no GUI is easy to program for.
RF> But every article I've ever read on programming (I'm no programmer
RF> myself) constantly harps on the kludges one must do when programming
RF> properly for Windows, as compared to the cleaner approach with OS/2.
Well, the best part of OS/2 is the API for Presentation Manager!
RF> Regarding multimedia, for example, it's apparently very difficult
RF> under Windows to synchronize full motion video and speech, whereas
RF> under OS/2 it's relatively easy.
I'll have to check my Windows 3.1 SDK!
RF> (NT multimedia no improvement over Windows)
RF> > Yep, you're right there... But you also have the pain of having to
RF> > bug your dealer/distributor/card mfr for Windows drivers, as the
RF> > basic NT only has PAS 16 and SoundBlaster (from what I recall) and
RF> > true SCSI HA attached CD-ROMS (ie no driver for the PAS 16 SCSI)...
RF>
RF> They're just going through the growing pains of any new OS, it
RF> happened with Windows and OS/2 as well. I'm very surprised NT has
RF> so few drivers, though, since it IS 7 months late and I thought MS
RF> had more clout with developers...
Well, I find it interesting that the OS/2 2.1 GA doesn't have some of the
CD-ROM drivers, you have to pull them off a support BBS....
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 1445
To: SAM JONES Date: 08/22/93 9:20p
Subj: Panasonic Pausing Refer: NONE
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Hi Sam!
On 08-20-93 Sam Jones wrote to Rowan Evans...
SJ> I really love my 562-b except for the
SJ> fact that now a couple of games seem to pause completely
SJ> when the CD is accessed. After the drive starts reading in
SJ> info (only a split-second) everything is ok.
Which games?? T7G slows down on my system, but never stops completely
and WC II was the same.....
SJ> Have you ever experienced this problem? I am using
SJ> Lightning CD now and it acts the same with or without it
SJ> enabled. Which driver are you using? Also another guy on
SJ> Prodigy is having the same exact problem!
I'm using Norton Speedcache..... With SBCD.SYS and MSCDEX loaded high
courtesy of QEMM 7.01....
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 1446
To: VICTOR ZDANOWICZ Date: 08/22/93 9:59p
Subj: Panasonic/SONY Refer: NONE
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Hi Victor!
On 08-22-93 Victor Zdanowicz wrote to All...
VZ> Does anyone know if Pannasonic CD-ROM drives are reliable?..
Well, I've had mine for over a month and it hasn't failed yet! <g>
Seriously, the newer double speed drives are just too new for anyone
to question Panasonic's MTBF figures.... I've been talking to
Osborne in Sydney and they're now installing CR562Bs in all their new
PCs.... Must say something for the drive!
VZ> Also... Is it possible to drive any CD-ROM drive from a SB16 or ASP16?
Nope, only a Panasonic CR52x series (single speed caddy drive) or CR56x
series (double speed caddyless drive)....
I have and recommend the CR562B (or its Creative Labs OEM equivalent the
CR563....)....
Hope this Helps!
o
/U\
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From: ROBERT HAWORTH Number: 1447
To: ALL Date: 08/22/93 9:42a
Subj: New Roland Compat Sound Card Refer: NONE
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I heard this great new card on Friday.
It has 5 sound standards including Roland SCC-1, MT-52, SoundBlaster, Adlib
and Microsoft Sound Systems. Unlike the SCC-1 which is something like $1000
and doesn't support anything else this card was only $600. It had over 300
instruments on its wave table and even came with a midi cable. The only
drawback was the software. It wasn't very easy to install but unlike the
Gravis at least it worked. The TSR took up 60k of memory but could be loaded
high. Unfortunately if you have the CD-ROM extensions, mouse, etc all loaded
high it doesn't leave much space for the TSR. TSR is not necessary for
windows. The CD-ROM interface was AT-Bus and could either take the Sony or
Mitsumi drives. Like the ProAudio Studio it had 4 jacks at the back. Volume
control was from a dial not a hotkey combo like the PAS16. It only emulated
the SB in 8 bit mode providing 100% 2.0 compatiblity. It would be a heaps
better card if it had Pro compatiblity but still its the best card i've ever
seen or heard. Left the SB ASP16 for dead even with the extra daughterboard
added which would leave you with a total bill of over $800. What an awesome
card. Creative Labs were so impressed with this card that they are going to
licence it next year. Makes a change for the makers of the SB to be copying
someone else instead of the other way round.
BTW how does the MPU-401 differ from normal midi?
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From: ZORAN ANANIJEV Number: 1448
To: ALL Date: 08/21/93 1:56a
Subj: SB16ASP+WBLASTER Refer: NONE
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G'day
I have just fitted a nice new SB16ASP + Wblaster into an empty slot and
am very happy with its performance so far, but I do have a couple of questions
to ask anyone who may be able to help.
1. What is the best MOD playing program for this unit? I've seen the prog that
comes with the PAS16 and it definately sounds better than anything for the SB
the best I have used so far is Dual Module Player.
2. How do you get the MT32 emulation to work on games that support them, the
W/Blaster has the relevant .CBK files and I even load them manually before
I get into a game still no go is there a driver or something I am missing out?
The games are Strike Commander, MPS Grand Prix, X-Wing, Dune2...they all
have options for either SB+MT32 or SB+Roland or MT32 on its own.
Any help would be appreciated.
Regards Zoran
... MONEY TALKS ... but all mine ever says is GOODBYE!
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 1449
To: MARLIN ROWLEY Date: 08/21/93 11:05a
Subj: Explain Sound Cards to me Refer: NONE
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MR>SoundBlaster16, (2) PAS 16, (3) TurtleBeach, (4) Gravis' UltraSound
MR>(by
MR>the way, it's not TRUE 16-bit "playback")
Who told you that? The GUS does "true" 16 bit playback, at sample rates up
to 60 kHz.
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From: DEAN MACKIN Number: 1450
To: MARTIN TAYLOR Date: 08/22/93 1:25p
Subj: Re: 16 bit cards Refer: NONE
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MT>I recently purchased the Soundblaster CD 16 multimedia kit. It comes
MT>with a Panasonic multi session hi speed CD ROM and a number of Cds. I
MT>think it's good value. It cost me $1150 AUD. The CD seems pretty quick
MT>too, compared with a friend's standard CD ROM.
Have you or anyone else had any problems with the CDrom drive locking up on
the SB16ASP Card.
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From: DEAN MACKIN Number: 1451
To: JAN MARTEN ERIC ELZINGA Date: 08/22/93 1:27p
Subj: Pioneer CD-ROM changers Refer: NONE
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JE>Aren't they the same? I thought they had the same sign as the Audio
JE>magazine (you know the 6 O's)
Yep! I have one in the car, the house and next the computer.
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From: DEAN MACKIN Number: 1452
To: DAVE SUMMERS Date: 08/22/93 1:33p
Subj: Re: CD-ROMs and DESQview Refer: NONE
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DS> I've opened a DOS window and tried running it from the prompt and it
DS>won't work that way either. Yes I'm running a music CD and everything
DS>works fine at first, but the moment Front Door reinitializes the modem,
DS>or if the phone rings, or if I do anything else it freezes up -
DS>sometimes to where I have to reboot. It happens when I run any Sound
DS>Blaster-related file too. I get a QEMM message stating that I need to
DS>allocate more environment for DMA. I'm not sure how to do that since I
DS>don't have the docs for QEMM anymore (lost in the almighty divorce
DS>shuffle).
Yeah I run a couple under an 8 line BBS system with Desqview. Simply set
DMA=64 on your Qemm command line and away you go. It's all in the Qemm Manual.
You might also wanna try VHI:N
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From: JAMES BUTT Number: 1453
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/22/93 12:53p
Subj: Cd'S On Sale! Refer: NONE
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I called a while ago and thoses prices are awsome I am thinking of ordereing a
couple of the cd's! Thanks for all your help!
James Butt
p.s. - you will see my order soon!
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From: DON KULHA Number: 1454
To: JOE HAYES Date: 08/21/93 7:10p
Subj: CDROM Slows BBS Refer: NONE
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DK> about WEB NOS is that it's less finicky about what network cards it
DK> can use andin some instances supports more options on them (ie,
DK> addresses/IRQs). Good stuff...made my life a bit more pleasant. Their
DK> number is1.415.331.1449 in Sausalito, CA.
JH> Thanks or the info Don, Just wondering, will the WEB
JH> NOS work with the lantasti 2mbps cards?
JH> If so how much do they want for there software?
I have no idea what the list is. Have a friend selling it for $40 per
node. As far as I know the lantastic 2mbps cards don't work with anything but
lantastic. I'd sell them with lantastic to someone and switch over to 10mbps
coax ethernet cards which can be had for $65 for new NE2000 clones or used 3Com
cards. I think your CDROM would respond very positively to the faster interface
cards and faster network software. I used to have collisions with my 7 cdroms
that would lockup and kill Lantastic. Not so with the WEB Nos.
DCK
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From: JOHN ROBERTSON Number: 1455
To: ERIC HSIAO Date: 08/22/93 9:45p
Subj: Speedcache & disc caddies Refer: NONE
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Hi, Eric!
EH> MCSDEX driver 3.02 - is that the latest? Also, I
EH> noticed that various stores can rip you off with the
EH> price of caddies. I went to a local computer show and
EH> they had caddies for $4-4.50 each, but when I went
Well, I've found that if you look in DOS 6.0's directory you'll find MSCDEX
2.22 parked there, that is unless you are using a BETA version or prhaps you
didn't read the version # correctly. Also with respect to your comment on the
prices of caddies you should be aware that there are copies of the licensed
caddies out there... easily recognized by several facets 1) The clear lid
should have no ripples on the surface, & 2) The printing on the back of the CD
caddies should be crisp and sharp. I don't know where the copies are coming
from but there are only two licensed plants in the world for making these, one
is in Japan, and the other in the USA. The Japanese version uses a stainless
steel shutter and the USA version is aluminum. The copies will jam in your cd
player or they will cause your spin motor to suffer from excessive drag. The
better cd players such as SONY or TOSHIBA will spit these out as they slow down
the motor from being uneven and causing the coupler to drag, I don't know what
happens in the TEXEL (UAC) drive but I wouldn't want ot find out. So in closing
there may be a good reason why those caddies are so cheap at the swap meets,
that may be all they are worth!
:-#
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From: DUANE ELLISON Number: 1456
To: ALL Date: 08/22/93 10:09p
Subj: CD-ROM BUNDLES Refer: NONE
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My wife and I have recently been looking into purchasing a CD-Rom, Sound
Card, and software bundle such as the Fusion CD 16. I was curious what
people think of these bundles and of the hardware included in the
bundles. Basically I would like to know the luck you have had in using
your new CD-Rom. I would like to purchase one of the systems that is
around the $500 that includes a Sound Card, CD-Rom drive, and a good
selection of software.
Thanks in advance for any information, anything would help!
Oh, the main reason we were looking into the Fusion CD package was
because of the Compton Encyclopedia.
Duane, 08-22-93 22:09
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 1457
To: GERALD RYCKMAN Date: 08/22/93 12:38p
Subj: Re: WHAT CD-ROM? Refer: NONE
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>> I'm looking into getting a CD-ROM for my BBS. What is the
>> best/fastest out there? Also, whats the bets
>> CDs out there full
>> of ShareWare files?
GR> I think the Toshiba and the Texel is the fastest at the moment. Both
GR> have access speed of 200ms and transfer speed of around 300-330k/sec
GR> transfer speed. Both are ultra-expensive.
The Pioneer DRM-604X is twice that fast, and handles six CD-ROM discs
for alternate access without operator attention. It's access time is
significantly higher, but on a CD-ROM that is not usually significant. It's a
SCSI-2 drive, BTW, and supports MMPC, CD-Audio, and Multisession CD-Photo. It
is also directly supported by OS/2 2.1, with no special drivers or external
programs.
Les
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 1458
To: JERRY MURPHY Date: 08/22/93 12:52p
Subj: Re: Cd-rom help! Refer: NONE
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JM> Granted, that doesn't give me a bazillion bytes of working
JM> space. But I've got a LOT of things going on in my
JM> system, loading down the 16 Megs pretty much. If you have
JM> a problem shoe-horning in enough buffers, you must choose
JM> what to cut back on ... a camel can carry only just so many straws.
In that case, get a bigger camel... If your system is REALLY loaded
down, and you REALLY want lots of space out of that 16M, then I suggest you get
OS/2 2.1. Here is a memory scan from one of my DOS sessions (I can have 100 or
more such sessions running simultaneously, if I like):
Memory below 640K (Conventional Memory)
Name Size in Decimal Size in Hex
------------- --------------------- -------------
DOS 6752 ( 6.6K) 1A60
4DOS 272 ( 0.3K) 110
FREE 648304 (633.1K) 9E470
Total FREE: 648304 (633.1K)
Memory above 640K (Upper Memory Blocks)
Name Size in Decimal Size in Hex
------------- --------------------- -------------
4DOS 3296 ( 3.2K) CE0
KSTACK 1056 ( 1.0K) 420
RAT 4944 ( 4.8K) 1350
FREE 12912 ( 12.6K) 3270
FREE 57120 ( 55.8K) DF20
Total FREE: 70032 ( 68.4K)
Total bytes avail to programs (Conv + UMB) : 718336 (701.5K)
Largest executable program size : 647968 (632.8K)
Largest Loadhigh executable program size : 57120 ( 55.8K)
2490368 bytes total EMS memory
1998848 bytes free EMS memory
2031616 bytes total XMS memory
2031616 bytes available XMS memory
0 bytes available contiguous extended memory
DOS resident in High Memory Area
High Memory Area in use
Unlike with QEMM, if I were to use, say, 16M of that EMS memory, I
would still have the 20M of XMS available. OF course, if I wanted to disable
graphics in this window, I could have about 696K free, instead of 632K. What's
more, all of my other DOS sessions could still use graphics! All of this is
available with an 850 Meg C: drive, a Pioneer DRM-604X six pack CD-ROM, a 250M
tape drive, a Floptical Drive, eight serial ports, three printer ports, a Pro
Audio Spectrum 16, a 2M HPFS cache, a screen blanker, HyperKey, and a resident
ASCII table.
The only caveat: it is possible that your CD-ROM may not be directly
supported under OS/2 and that your manufacturer may not have drivers (Mitsumi
is the most notable case). In that case, you may have to load the drivers for
the CD-ROM in a Virtual Machine Boot of DOS or DRDOS and access the drive only
from that session.
Les
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From: ROY D'ARCANGELO Number: 1459
To: SAM JONES Date: 08/23/93 10:19a
Subj: Panasonic BenchMrk Refer: NONE
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In a msg on <Aug 22 23:04>, Sam Jones of 1:396/27 writes:
SJ>> on how to correct the situation?
RE>>
RE>> Sorry... I think its one of those things you have to live with! If
RE>> you think its bad, try running on a friends (or dealers) single
SJ>
SJ> Hello, Well after playing around with the newer version of SBCD.SYS
(6/93)
SJ> I can now definately say that all of my audio problems are GONE! The
slight
SJ> video pause is still there (though now barely noticeable) and I can live
with
SJ> it! I am so glad that this was a driver problem! Later, Sam
SJ>
SJ> -!- Maximus 2.01wb
SJ> ! Origin: The Node III BBS New Orleans LA (504) 347-4320 (1:396/27)
I came into your message I guess a little late. I was wondering if you were
talking about a driver for the newer Panasonics, 562b. I just got one the other
day and installed it with the software disk that came with it. The software
does not have SBCD.SYS though. I have a SB PRO, 8-bit card, that I am using
with this CD. Can you advise where I might be able to obtain the latest drivers
for the above. Thanks...
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From: MICHAEL KONOR Number: 1460
To: STEVE MCKAIN Date: 08/23/93 11:12a
Subj: Re: SCSI CDROM Refer: NONE
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>MK>Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM External $200.00
>
>Is this drive daisy chain able???
Yes! The external case has two 50 pin centronics which can be used for
daisy chaining drives.
205-837-5053
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From: TOM MILLER Number: 1461
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/23/93 3:16p
Subj: Cdrom Systems Refer: NONE
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Hi Boris,
Was just checking on my 3 cd rom changes and disks. I talk to you
on Tuesday and you said thay will be shipped Thursday. If you can drop me
a note. (Order is under Lloyd Miller)
Thanks
Tom Miller
Tom Miller
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From: STEVEN CALLAND Number: 1462
To: ALL Date: 08/21/93 8:52p
Subj: Turbo Grafx CD-ROM?? Refer: NONE
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Does anybody know if a Turbo Grafx CD-ROM is PC compatable?? Or if there
is anything that I can buy to hook it up that will cost less than just buying
a PC CD-ROM????
--==ßΣGUi£Σ==--
(Steven Calland)
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From: GEOFF MOEHLE Number: 1463
To: ALL Date: 08/21/93 3:58p
Subj: buying Refer: NONE
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Hello everyone! I am very interested in buying a good, but resonably priced
CD-ROM!! I prefer to buy a CD-ROM that has a fast access time...and has
300kb/second transfer rate...if anyone knows where I can get one please write
me!!!!!!! Thank You!
Geoff Moehle :)
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 1464
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 08/20/93 10:03p
Subj: Re: MISTUMI/SB/SBPRO Refer: NONE
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> or
>>paper) some audio card maker was going to release a special version of
> their
>>card with a Mitsumi interface rather then a scsii interface.
> ATI and (Gravis or Galaxy?) already have released such cards.
Hi Brice,
FYI and other individual you were replying,
Sound cards with Mitsumi LU005 Interface
Sound Galaxy NXPROA
Sound Galaxy-16 NXPRO
ATI F/X (also interfaces with LU002)
Media Resources
Advance Gravis (optional daughter board)
TTYL
GroupWare
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN Number: 1465
To: STEPHAN PATTERSON Date: 08/22/93 12:27a
Subj: NETWARE SHAREWARE CD-ROM Refer: NONE
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To add a directory database for any of our libraries to your existing CD-ROM is
$25, plus shipping (probably $10 for international, $5 US). If you wait until
October 1 (when our next edition is shipped) you can get the new directory AND
a new CD-ROM for $25 if you are updating something you've bought before. We'll
be showing our new BBS door versions at ONE BBSCON next week. Awesome!
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From: CHRIS ROBINSON Number: 1466
To: LOUIS GHINIS Date: 08/23/93 9:04a
Subj: 16 bit sound card Refer: NONE
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It looks like Creative Labs has sold you. They all use the OPL-3 so the
quality is the same. I just want the flexibility of SCSI as Panasonic is
not the only double-speed drives around. There's plenty of software
packed with it (Midisoft Sequencer, CD player, text-to-speech,
Trackblaster Pro, Pro Mixer,etc.). I don't think either of us are going
to be disappointed in any way thanks to MediaVision and Creative Labs
strong hold in sound.
Have fun and make noise ....... CR
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From: JASON KLANK Number: 1467
To: GERALD RYCKMAN Date: 08/22/93 10:14p
Subj: SPEEDCACHE & DISC CADDIES Refer: NONE
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Hello Gerald!
Friday August 20 1993 06:56, Gerald Ryckman wrote to Eric Hsiao:
> MCSDEX v3.02?!??! Wow...that is definitely new. The one that came with
> my CDROM is only v2.1 and the one that came with MSDOS 6.0 is
> (I believe) v2.21. Both of them do not support MSDOS 6.0 and I had to
> use SETVER loaded in memory in order to do so. Finally, I had to hack
> into the program in order to make it compatible with MSDOS 6.0 without
> the need of using SETVER.
Hmm...Funny thing. I use DOS6 and the MSCDEX that came with it...I also don't
use SETVER....Works just fine...
Jason
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 1468
To: DAVID BURKE Date: 08/23/93 11:58a
Subj: Thanks Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Not being a sysop, I don't know how echos are started/stopped. Your
suggestions are good ones, IMHO. Someone had suggested an adult CD-ROM echo,
but I haven't seen any traffic about it lately.
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: SAM JONES Number: 1469
To: ROY D'ARCANGELO Date: 08/23/93 2:19p
Subj: Panasonic BenchMrk Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
If you are here in N.O, i have uploaded the file(s) SBCD_DOS.ZIP and
SBCD.ZIP to a few local BBS's (La MedSig, Just Trying It, Southern Star, Node
III) so if you look around on these boards you can dnload it there.
Later, Sam
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 1470
To: KEN BACHMAN @ 930/1 Date: 08/22/93 10:30p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Games Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey Ken, I just got 7th guest and I have gone pretty far, in it though
now the puzzles seem to be getting harder and harder, and I was
considering to buy Sherlock Holmes, but you see I have the regular
Sherlock Holmes and the Lost Files, it took 28 meg and I was stuck in
the begining of that game for a long time so I don't intened to buy
anymore Sherlock Holmes games, but I really want to buy Wing Commander
II deluxe, too bad the place I went did not have it, by the way what
kind of CD-ROM do you have and what CD-ROM games do you have for it? Do
you use any CD-ROM cache? well write back. C_ya
Ashwin
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 1471
To: BRENT LYNCH Date: 08/22/93 10:34p
Subj: Re: Cd-rom Games Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey Brent, I thought about buying Wing Commander II dulxe but when I
could not find it in the place I went to , I instead got 7TH GUEST, I
think I made a good choice in buying 7th guest instaed of WIng
Commander, and since I did that I cannot buy another game for a while,
anyway I sure want to get Day of the Tentacle, about KIng's Quest, I got
the CD-ROM version of King's Quest 5 and it took me 2 days to beat the
whole game and I have the regular version of King's Quest 6 and it took
me all of 2 weeks to beat the game so I will not buy the CD-ROM version
of King's Quest 6, thanx for replying and write back, I need some
messages to keep me busy.
Ashwin
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 1472
To: LOU PETRALIA Date: 08/22/93 10:37p
Subj: CD-ROM GAMES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey Lou, I don't think I will be able to get DAy of the TEntacle of a
while since i just got 7th Guest and that costs me 59 bucks and my dad
will not buy me another game for while. Anyway if and when I can
convince my dad to get me another game, my choice will be Day of the
TEnctacle, well write back and C-ya
Ashwin
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From: COR GLOUDIE Number: 1473
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/21/93 12:56a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $799.00 Pioneer DMR604X Bare
> -$1199.
Are they both CD-Diskchangers??
If so, what's the difference?
Do the have an IN or EXternal powersupply?
And what do you mean with bare, no interface card, etc..?
Ciao!
Cor Gloudie
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From: TOM GUELKER Number: 1474
To: MARK WOMACK Date: 08/20/93 5:38p
Subj: Cd-rom Help! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MW> Hi TOM,
MW> DC> Why not take a listen to your audio CD's on your computer? Hook it up
MW> DC> to a decent sound card, and use MCS Stereo as the software interface,
MW> DC> and you'll be throwing your audio CD player out the window fast! I'm
MW> TG> MCS Stereo is a commercial program, and is well worth the cost. You
MW> TG> might be able to find it locally. I recommend it over anything I've
MW> TG> seen. It needs Windows, so hopefully you have that. It beats anything
MW> TG> I've seen hands down!
MW> Since the audio portion of the CD ROM drive is handled entirely by
MW> the drive itself, how can a piece of software make it sound better?
MW> This puzzles me.
Mark, it might be psychological, but they sure do sound better on my
$2000 computer than my $600 rack system!
Tom
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From: NICK FUNK Number: 1475
To: WEE YUNG Date: 08/23/93 6:34a
Subj: CDROM forsale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a msg on <Aug 21 08:21>, Wee Yung of 1:102/138 writes:
WY> CD-ROM Panasonic 562B 320ms w/contlr caddyless 300k/s 64kcache.$279.
What can you tell me about this drive. Is this a good drive?
I have a new MediaVision ProAudio Studio 16 sound board. Will this SCSI port
work with this drive?
Any information is greatly appreciated!!!!!!!!!1
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From: JOE PATTERSON Number: 1476
To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Date: 08/22/93 7:09a
Subj: Re: Walnut Creek Releases Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi! I have just installed a Pioneer 604X on my BBS and am looking for Cds will
you please FAX me your latest catalog? You can FAX it to the number listed in
the tag line. Thanks. :{)
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From: JOE PATTERSON Number: 1477
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/22/93 7:45a
Subj: CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Mike, ya got a magic name for the catalog? If not whats the file name?
Thanks....... Jp :{)
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From: ANTON SWART Number: 1478
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/21/93 11:55a
Subj: Re: red hot lot... Refer: NONE
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Yo ....
I am slightly confused ....!
no 1 u mumbled...
-> Kings Quest 7 is not out and available !!
What does that mean! If u have it i'd like it!
S00 Right now i would like ONLY IF ITS G00d!! honest oppinion!:
Gameware
Definiytevly Kings Quest 6 & 7
And once again pier2
CCould u give me the individual prices coz i dont wanna waste fax....
thanx cheers!
oh yea could u file atach or sumthing a price list so i can just get the
ammounts and stuff u have thanx cheers
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 1479
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 08/22/93 7:00a
Subj: Police Quest 4 (CD-ROM) Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Hey Henry, I also am a Sierra fan and am really looking forward to
-> buying the CD-ROM version of Ploice Quest 4. you see i get the
-> InterAction magazine, the sierra magazine and they had a review about
-> police quest 4 and man does it look good. I have to really get this
-> game, well I hope the price is affordable, C-ya
Yeah, I get the magazine too! Great magazine! I loved the review, but my
brother did more. He would pay almost anything to have it now!
I want to upgrade my Sierra games right now to CD.
I got KQ5, SQ4, Laura Bow2 and Willy Beamish.
I also want to get the CD version of the Wing Commander series.
What games do you have?
Henry
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 1480
To: SAM JONES Date: 08/22/93 2:50p
Subj: CD SLOW-DOWN Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I recently purchased a Panasonic 562-b 320ms double-speed CD-ROM
-> installed it a few days ago. The drive seemed to work very well and
-> speed with the Animals and Software Toolwrks Ency.
-> CD's.
-> Yesterday I played both the KQ6 and DOTT CD's and they exhibit sl
-> down whenever the disc is read for the digitized effects or speech.
-> experience any sound break up with the digital audio and the "slow-do
-> (actually more like a pause in the whole system) dissapears once the
-> actually being read. I have tried all types of settings with the buf
-> Lightning CD and this problem still exists.
-> Has anyone else ever had this problem (with any CD-ROM drive)? I
-> to me as if it could be a driver problem or something, as the drive s
-> fast and once it starts reading everything is smooth.
-> My driver (SBCD.SYS) is dated 4/93 while the drive was manufactured i
-> '93.
Do you have a DMA channel activated? If so, try switching it around or
even swithing to software polling.
If you have software polling, try DMA.
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 1481
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 08/22/93 2:54p
Subj: WORKS GREAT (SO FAR) Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> >Mitsumi IDE interface drive
->
-> 40 pins does NOT an IDE drive make - the Mitsumi uses a PROPRIATARY i
-> not an IDE interface.
->
-> >Please note my non-CM flag in the nodelist
->
-> It WOULD be nice if more folks would pay attention to that sort of th
-> I've
-> been non-CM during a lot of my FidoNet "career" as well....
Also notice that the connector is NOT the same as an IDE.
It has special prongs on the cable that match slots on the connector.
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 1482
To: ALL Date: 08/22/93 5:04p
Subj: Uploading & Music CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Okay, I saw somebody mention something about their CD cutting off when
they tried to upload.
I tried it too, and the same story.
My theory is that when you go to upload, the program checks all possible
hard drives for the upload directory.
All it takes is to just try to access the CD-ROM for it to quit playing
the CD.
Hope this helps out whoever needed help.
Henry
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From: GEOFF MOEHLE Number: 1483
To: ALL Date: 08/22/93 1:35p
Subj: catalogs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi all! If anyone can give me any catalogs...it would be very helpful. I am
looking into buying a desent CD-ROM for a good price...my address is 3248
Admiral st. Eugene OR 97404...Thank you very much!!!!!!!!
Geoff Moehle
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From: SAM JONES Number: 1484
To: ZORAN ANANIJEV Date: 08/23/93 11:32p
Subj: SB16ASP+WBLASTER Refer: NONE
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ZA> 2. How do you get the MT32 emulation to work on
ZA> games that support them, the
ZA> W/Blaster has the relevant .CBK files and I even
ZA> load them manually before
ZA> I get into a game still no go is there a driver or
ZA> something I am missing out?
All I do is run WBMODE MT.32 before playing a game that supports the MT-32
and it works ok. The games that I have used the MT-32 emulation for are Dune,
Stunts, MPS World Circuit, Supaplex (sounds excellent), and Wheel Of Fortune w/
Vanna White. Do any of your games supporting General MIDI work (in other
words, do any of your games in DOS work with the WaveBlaster)? There is no TSR
required, the games have the MT-32 drivers included with them, they only need
to "find" the WB and direct the MIDI output to it.
Good Luck, Sam
I am VERY pleased with my WB by the way!
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From: ETOP UDOH Number: 1485
To: ALL Date: 08/23/93 9:20a
Subj: Toshiba cdrom and Wd7000-ASC SCSI controller... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Is anyone familiar with using a Toshiba XM2100-A cdrom drive with
a Western Digital WD7000-ASC SCSI controller....I think this one
has the fast roms.....
I need the working jumper settings on the controller, and the working
SCSI ID on the drive itself....
Thanks...
Etop Udoh
Internet: Eudoh@sct.edu
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From: STEVE PESANT Number: 1486
To: DON RIEB Date: 08/23/93 9:10p
Subj: Thanks Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi there Don
Well I would just like to thank-you for the quick response...and for sending me
your price list...Thanks.
-=Cheers=-
Steve.
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From: DAVID BURKE Number: 1487
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 08/23/93 10:21p
Subj: Thanks Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Not being a sysop, I don't know how echos are started/stopped. Your
-> suggestions are good ones, IMHO. Someone had suggested an adult
-> CD-ROM but I haven't seen any traffic about it lately.
Well, the idea is Bob or some moderator, (people who like extra work,
hehehe) will pick up on the idea and start or restructure the CD echos
on FIDO now.
-=- Dave
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From: MICHAEL KONOR Number: 1488
To: ALL Date: 08/23/93 6:52p
Subj: scsi cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SCSI CDROMs For Sale:
Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM External $200.00
Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM Internal $180.00
Works great on MS-DOS, OS/2, Amiga, and Mac. Features 50 Pin True SCSI,
300ms access, 156k transfer, newest EPROMs installed, and 64k Buffer.
Service Center Refurbished. MPC Compliant. Warranty
205-837-5053 anytime.
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From: SHAUN RADER Number: 1489
To: GRAHAM MURPHY Date: 08/23/93 11:37a
Subj: 7th guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
<<***** GRAHAM MURPHY wrote this on 08-17─93 {May be edited} *****>>
─>Thats about all it does work well with. S3's are no good for anything
─>other than windows - T7G doesn't use the accelerator stuff, because no
─>of it is any good for the video.
─>
─>Graham
Yeah, I know what you mean.. but I would expect the S3 to do OKAY with
The 7th Guest because it's in SVGA mode and so is Windows (I guess they
are two COMPLETELY different video modes). I mean.. 2% is pretty sad!
It's still better then the 1% I used to get with my Trident. I wonder
if I had a SpeedStar 24x (which is what I originally wanted).. if I
would get 100%.
-Shaun Rader-
-Madman@Liberty.Com-
08/23/93 10:57
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From: JIM CLEMENTS Number: 1490
To: BOB JENKINS Date: 08/23/93 1:35p
Subj: BUYING FROM THE U.S. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BJ> Hello. I am a new CD-rom owner,interested in purchasing from the U.S. Up
BJ>here in Canada, the prices are...well...scary! I would like to know what is
BJ>involved ie. customs/duty etc. Thank You.
No duty (computer-related item), but there is GST at the border and
quite possibly a broker's fee depending on how it is shipped. UPS
and other such services usually will have someone call you (usually
from Windsor for items destined for Ontario) and ask if you have
your own broker or would like them to handle it for you. Fee varies
with amount, I believe. It should be considered when figuring out
the actual price of the item. And it is better if you can have it
sent to someone in the States and pick it up -- you save that
brokerage fee, a percentage of the shipping fee if there is one,
and depending on your stay outside the country, could eliminate
the need to declare.
Be aware, though, that buying in the States has its problems.
The biggest is that U.S. warranties are usually only good in
the U.S. That means you normally can't take a Brand X item to
a Brand X dealer in Canada and get it repaired if something
goes flooey. It has to be returned to the U.S. and that can
create more border concerns/costs if you don't have the
paperwork for customs done in advance.
And of course when you add the almost 30 per cent due to
the current exchange rate, the shipping fees (often higher
for Canada), GST on the full amount in Canadian dollars,
you may not save as much as might think.
If you have to send it back to the States just once for
warranty repair, you could easily blow whatever you might
save.
Happy hunting. Cheers!
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From: ARNIE GROSS Number: 1491
To: ERIC HO Date: 08/23/93 9:32a
Subj: Re: Dr. Cd-rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
.
Eric -
In reference to Dr. Windows, Dr. Music, and Dr. Shareware:
Country Fair Software would be interested in handling all
three of your discs, but would need to talk to you about
dealer pricing first.
You neglected to post a voice phone number in your ad.
- Arnie :+}
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From: ARNIE GROSS Number: 1492
To: CHRIS CLEMSON Date: 08/23/93 9:27a
Subj: Re: Font CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Chris -
AG> CD-ROMS for sale - $18.00 each (incl. shipping)
AG> FontMaster CD Library - High quality fonts (NOT shareware)
CC> Hi, What types of fonts are these? If TrueType I would be
CC> interested. Would $18 include shipping to the UK?
These are bit-mapped files (not TT). Shipping to the UK would
be an additional $3.00
- Arnie :+}
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From: CARLOS BENITZ Number: 1493
To: TRAVIS CAMPBELL Date: 08/23/93 10:43a
Subj: Kings Quest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
21 Aug 93 02:40, Travis Campbell wrote to Carlos Benitz:
TC>> have the hardriver version of KQ6! So whats different in the cd-rom
TC>> version?
CB>> I didn't get any manuals with my cdrom version.
TC> Did you call Sierra Online & get some manuals?
Not yet. It's just sitting in my drawer, still in its shrinkwrap. I bought
it at a swap meet, and later it occurred to me that it's probably a used game
that someone shrinkwrapped, so I'm hosed. Sometime when I get extra time, I'll
open it up and look at the install/readme's. (The thing I bought is a shrink
wrapped jewl case.) I suppose I need manuals to work it?
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From: CARLOS BENITZ Number: 1494
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 08/23/93 10:47a
Subj: SHAREWARE AND CDS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
20 Aug 93 13:27, Brice Fleckenstein wrote to Carlos Benitz:
>> FF> I think it will only be a matter of time before ""CD of the month"
>> FF> clubs start and everybody will get a nice new CD in the mailbox each
>> FF> month.
>> Were there "Disk of the mnth" clubs 10 years ago?
BF> CBS CD Club has been around appx. 10 years, not sure about the BMG
DisK, floppy of the month clubs. I was attempting to point out that this is a
fairly new technology, not well intrenched in the average home. While we're
getting closer, I wouldn't expect a successful mass-market disc of the month
club for about 6-18 more months. Nothing big for probably 2 years.
While the readers of this echo may almost all have cdrom drives, by no means
do most computers. People without computers have no need for a cdrom drive.
Unlike audio cd's which could attach to almost any stereo, cdroms apply to a
smaller market right now.
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From: JERRY MURPHY Number: 1495
To: RON FINDLING Date: 08/22/93 11:31a
Subj: New mpc specs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RF>(Standard OS spec for multimedia?)
RF> After all, even without seeing it, the media is taking
RF>everything Microsoft says at face value, and has been saying it will
RF>take over...
If anybody doubts this comment by you, they might look at the multi-page
article in Wall Street Journal, Monday, August 16, 1993. The article is
entitled "The Day Bill Gates Overthrew Big Blue." VERY interesting reading.
Most public libraries still have it.
I'm still a DOS command line commando, myself. But I'll consider OS/2 for my
system maybe, some day; there's not a chance in the world I'd ever consider
Whine-doze.
the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio
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From: JERRY MURPHY Number: 1496
To: DALE A COOK Date: 08/22/93 11:53a
Subj: Persian <-----> english Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Remember those IRANIANS are on the U.S. Government'S EMBARGO LIST:
>I beleive it's against the law to do buisiness with them!
BF> I seem to recall some loosening of that during the Gulf War....
DA> However; it's presently TIGHTENED. That
DA> NATION of IRAN is still on our COUNTRY'S list of those
DA> SUPPORTING TERRORISM!!!!!!!!
... unlike Russia, which just delivered a pair of submarines and numerous
other weapons to them, and China, our "most favored nation" per George Bush,
which delivered numerous anti-ship missiles and is dealing with Iran on nukes.
Our ships in the Gulf are in shallow water and deep trouble; please keep them
in your prayers.
But what does all of this have to do with CD-ROMs?
-eot-
the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio
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From: JERRY MURPHY Number: 1497
To: MICHAEL LECUYER Date: 08/22/93 1:52p
Subj: Simtel20 cd rom viruses Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
ML>CDROM: Simtel20, April 1993
ML>The following files failed to pass the Norton AntiVirus tests. This
ML>does not necessarily mean that the files listed below actually have
ML>the viruses and may only indicate FALSE POSITIVES on the part of the
ML>virus hunting software. Anyone with a different scanner might want
ML>to try these out and post their results to refute or substantiate my
ML>tests.
ML>Scanner used:
ML>The Norton AntiVirus, 2.1,
ML>Copyright 1989-1992 by Symantec Corporation
The good folks that produce that SIMTEL series are generally very careful
about such things, and I highly doubt there are actual viruses on their
products. You might have tried one of the other scanning methods on that disc
or some other recent source, and compared the results.
Some products give false readings due to resident virus signatures from the
poorer classes of virus detectors, so if you have some other virus defenses
present while you use NAV, you might actually be reading those false reports,
and believe them to be true. An early version of NAV even produced false
reports all by itself, requiring an immediate re-release to fix that particular
bug. I don't recall that version number since I don't have any confidence in
that product; I *do* own several other Norton products though.
FWIW, the most recent VSUMX307 (Virus SUMmary, HyperteXt, from Patricia
Hoffman) scores various detection systems against a large collection of known
viruses, more than 2,000 of them. Scoring them by percentage of accuracy, 100%
being tops, here are a few of the detection abilities of those published:
F-PROT 2.09 96.4% (this was highest on the list)
SCAN 106 95.9 (this was second, followed by others; then)
CPAV 2.0 66.5
NAV 2.1.7 61.1
MSAV 6.0 49.0 (at the bottom of the list!)
Based on these results, I wouldn't have much confidence in NAV reports. Thanks
for your report in any case; it may actually be true, in spite of the low
confidence factor in the testing method used. DOS 6.0 fans are invited to
groan in unison on a count of 3; 1 ... 2 ... 3! GROAN!
The junk produced by MtE has been easily detected by SCAN, for instance, for
several versions, including those found on that disc, and presumably available
to the publishers when they certainly tested their own product. I rather doubt
that that many viruses would escape their notice. But you never know ...
BTW, SCAN107 has been in BETA for some time, and may be released very soon.
Using the BETA, I've already found a few viruses not detectable by SCAN106, one
of those being in P5\P5UTL\VIPER.EXE from PC World's STAR DOT STAR disk, a
floppy. In more ways than one as it turns out.
the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio
* DeLuxe2 1.21 #8814 * These are the times that try men's souls.
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From: DON KULHA Number: 1498
To: LOUIS GHINIS Date: 08/22/93 11:13p
Subj: PAS16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LG> I would agree with you about the PAS-16XL but as for buying the
LG> toshiba 3401b I wouldn't even consider it its overpriced. The panasonic
LG> 562b is 320ms not 350ms it can transfer 300kb/sec on the sb 16 card
LG> using cdpseed (microsoft's cdrom benchmark) someone else out there was
LG> saying that the benchmark tests with the pas 16+ 3401b were very poor
LG> less than the required 300kb/sec level and why pay twice as much for a
LG> toshiba when its the same in transfer speed. If the 562B did not exist
LG> these past two months I'd definately buy a toshiba rather than a mitsumi
LG> but now that the 562b panasonic is here to take over toshiba,nec,sony in
LG> the over priced market you can't justify getting the same features and
LG> paying twice as much when i can get 2 panasonics for the price of 1
Get real Louis. I think the Panasonic double speed at it's price is a
good deal but "the same features"? Not even close. You're comparing a 200
millisecond drive to a 320ms, a 256k internal cache to 64k, SCSI to proprietary
interface, a caddy drive to caddyless, forgetting the self cleaning optics,
extra dust door, etc. The Panasonic is a consumer drive designed with
compromises to make a price point versus a serious no compromise state of the
art drive. They both have their place but the Panasonic doesn't stack up evenly
with the Tosh by a long shot.
DCK
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 1499
To: RAY DYER Date: 08/24/93 3:07a
Subj: Re: BBS Shareware CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BO>> As a general rule, most shareware cd's today sell for around $25 - $29
>> you probably won't believe this, but Night Owl is selling in
>> Canada for $75. I only know of one store selling it so I am
>> stuck, uless I go with mail order.
We'll your welcome to order direct from us and we'll be happy to
ship you a copy.
Either give us a call at 216-225-3263 or drop us a note via the node/net
number below and we'll be happy to assist you further.
Boris Osadciw
... Who Killed Superman?
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 1500
To: KEITH HALL Date: 08/24/93 3:07a
Subj: Re: Worm's vs. cd-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> If I purchase a panasonic worm or other manufactures worm can
>> I use the same cd in my cd-rom?
NO, as a worm drives media is not only diffrent than a normal cd,
but is diffrent in the way it writes to it's media as well. A worm
drive is nothing more than a large tape backup unit, so to speak.
Although, there are other usages for it, you will be unable to use
the media from the worm drive in the manner you expressed above.
Hope this helps...
Boris Osadciw
... If you're not the lead dog, everything looks the same!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 1501
To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 3:07a
Subj: LIMITED SUPPLY Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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and Windows Compatiable - Caddy System - Dasiy Chainable
SCSI & SCSI 2 Support. Refurbished - 90 day warranty
Limited Supply - External Price - $249. Internal Price - $225.
Purchase any current Shareware CD for $15. additional with drive!
ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH - 216-225-3263 - FAX - 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress....... Not Just Another Off-Line Mail System <tm>!
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From: JANUSZ SUROWKA Number: 1502
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 08/20/93 10:32a
Subj: CD SPEEDWAY Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
ok.
thanks
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From: JANUSZ SUROWKA Number: 1503
To: ERIC HSIAO Date: 08/20/93 10:33a
Subj: Pas16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
as a matter of fact there is a guy in the CD-ROM Echo, selling a Panasonic
CD=ROM drive that is 200ms 330KBPS
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From: JANUSZ SUROWKA Number: 1504
To: MARK WOMAK Date: 08/20/93 10:39a
Subj: Sound Blaster PC Speaker Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
what that IS is a connection from you PC speaker to the SB.
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From: CR HAMILTON Number: 1505
To: KEVIN PLUMMER Date: 08/23/93 9:42p
Subj: Night Owl 9 $25 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Kevin Plummer wrote in a message to All:
KP> N i g h t O w l 9 . 0
Does this have the files.bbs format for use on the bbs?
CR
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From: MARC CIRCOSTA Number: 1506
To: ALL Date: 08/20/93 9:59a
Subj: Q's on these new Panasoni Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi!
Lately I have been reading with intrest about the Panasonic 562/563b drives,
and their value for money, and I would like to fire off a few questions on
them...
- Will they connect to a PAS16 as well as a SB16(sans ASP)?
- Would I be better of buying it with a PAS16 or a SB16 (speed wise)?
- Are the Panasonic 562/563b drives on sale here in Oz?
- How Much?
- Whats the difference beetween these two drives?
- Are there drivers for them in OS/2 2.1?
Any help, or hints, or suggestions are much appreciated!
Anyway, thanx in advance
Marc.
■ KWQ/2 1.2 ■ I used to have a life. Now I have Windows.
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From: TIMOTHY ELLIS Number: 1507
To: ALL Date: 08/22/93 3:47p
Subj: Illust. Encyc. config file. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Greetings All.
I am posting this message for a friend.
He recently bought a second hand CD-ROM drive, and some bundled CD's.
One of these was The Software Toolworks Illustrated Encyclopedia IBM version
2.0.
The config.exe files is corrupted, and he is unable to get a replacement in
Australia, as the suppliers do not have a copy of version 2 anymore.
Can anyone help with a copy of the following file :
Config.exe 88633 19-8-91 12.00:00pm
If you can help, please netmail me details of how you can be contacted and I
will pass the info on.
Share and Enjoy,
Timothy.
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From: VICTOR ZDANOWICZ Number: 1508
To: ALL Date: 08/22/93 1:10p
Subj: Sony CD-ROM + 16ASP Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Could anyone tell me if it is possible to use a Sony CDU561 drive (double
spin) with a 16ASP?.... Also.. Is this a good idea.. or should I go for the
Creative CR1200 kit with 8CD's and double-spin.. I am worried about the
quality of the CD-ROM in the Creative Kit... and I belive that SONY would be
much better...?...Is this true???????
Vz.. Thanks...
--- GEcho 1.00/gamma+
* Origin: CLASSIC Rock - DWarz Support, Oz +61-2-988-3076 (3:711/425)
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From: MARTIN TAYLOR Number: 1509
To: STEPHEN RANSON Date: 08/21/93 6:01p
Subj: Re: Cd-roms - Exlnt Prices Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Stephen.
> The Australian CD-ROM Club has Night Owl 9 for $69 or $62.10 for
> members!!
That sounds like normal retail. At least that's what mine cost.
> o Regular huge catalogue with descriptions of most titles.
> o 10% discount on all software purchases through Club.
What's it cost to join the "CD ROM Club"? Do you have all cataloged CDs in
stock? And are the catalogs free?
Cheers,
Martin
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From: ANTONY WUTH Number: 1510
To: MARLIN ROWLEY Date: 08/22/93 1:23a
Subj: WANTED: Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Marlin,
16 Aug 93 16:15, Marlin Rowley wrote to Antony Wuth:
MR> Antony,
MR> I use MCI's Cd Audio. I don't know what version of windows you have
MR> but if you want my version, I am more than willing to give it to you.
It all work's fine now. I got really really mad at windows, deteted it waited
about an hour, Reinstalled it and it all worked.
I think it was just a great microsoft mistery.
seya
Antony
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From: PHIL BURTON Number: 1511
To: STEPHEN RANSON Date: 08/23/93 2:11p
Subj: Re: Cd-roms - Exlnt Prices Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
===> Overheard Rowan Evans say something to Stephen Ranson
===> about Cd-roms - Exlnt Prices.
RE> Sorry, you can't tempt me! I can source several of the CD-ROMs you
RE> mention (the ones I am interested in!) from other dealers cheaper!
Hi Rowan,
Would like to know where you are referring to, after checking out the
US prices in this echo the Aussi ones are nothing short of depressing.
(No input from anyone re the exchange rate, etc. I've been through all
that and the US prices are still cheaper than ours.)
Anyway, am interested in knowing where the best prices are so I can
check 'em out.
Cheers,
... Smash forehead on keyboard to continue.....
--- GEcho 1.00
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From: STEPHEN EATON Number: 1512
To: MICHAEL M Date: 08/22/93 8:18a
Subj: Re: CD-Rom Problems Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
G'day Michael,
SE> I'm using the Adaptec 1542 controller and all the associated
MM> I had this problem, using a 1540. Removing the jumper
MM> from the auto sense
MM> disable (J6, pin 5) has cured it!
I'll give it a go, thanks for that. I did think it was the 1542, but I'll give
it a go.
Thanks,
Stephen
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From: SUNNY LEUNG Number: 1513
To: ALL Date: 08/22/93 11:19a
Subj: Panasonic 562/563 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi everybody,
I've got a SB 16ASP hooked up to the old SB Pro CD-ROM. I'm thinking of
upgrading to the new Panasonic double speed drive. Does anyone in Australia
supply this drive, and what would be the price?
BTW, what's the difference between the 562 and 563?
Another question <g> from me - has anyone got a Waveblaster? What's it like
in terms of quality etc. ?
There does not seem to be any software that supports it though ...
Regards, Sunny.
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From: SUNNY LEUNG Number: 1514
To: ALL Date: 08/22/93 11:24a
Subj: Aus Creative Labs BBS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi everybody,
Is there a Creative Labs BBS in Australia. If so, what's the number?
Regards, Sunny.
... I can't steer without my beer.
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From: BRENDAN FARTHING Number: 1515
To: ALL Date: 08/23/93 6:08p
Subj: Aust. Phone Disc Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Has anyone used the Australian Phone Book CD ?
Also, does anyone know the difference between the one that sells for about
$1500.00 (I think it's called Aus On Disc) and the one that sells for about
$50.00 (This one is called Australian Phone Disk).
The one that sells for $50 contains the entire Yellow and White Pages for every
state in Australia.
Why is there such a HUGE price difference between that disk and the $1500.00
one ??????
Anyone that knows please reply,
Regards,
Brendan Farthing.
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From: CRAIG SHEPPARD Number: 1516
To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 1:37a
Subj: Double speed Cd-Rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SH@-}Everbody, I would like to know that whether that the speed of the
SH@-}CPU(386/486) will affect the performance of the CD-Rom. It is because I
SH@-}would like to purchase a CD-Rom but I don't know if one of my old 386
SH@-}can handle... Thank You!
Sunny,
Yes, your CPU will affect the CD-ROM. You failed to mention if
you had a DX or an SX. I have a 386DX/33 with 8MB of RAM, and my
Mitsumi drive works very smoothly; the animation in Wing
Commander 2 is very smooth, with only the most graphics-packed
screens have a millisecond pause. Nothing big, it's not even
annoying. Well, back to the issue...there is one aspect of a
CD-ROM that a processor upgrade would help tremendously, and
that is the time it takes to load things. I've noticed that,
even though animation is fine, a friend's 486DX-50 just blows
mine away in the time it takes to load something.
It's your decision. I'd say buy it from a reputable dealer, try
it out, and if it just doesn't suit your fancy, return it. It's
up to you...:)
Good luck,
Craig in South Jersey
* SLMR 2.1a * Backup not found: (A)bort (R)etry (P)anic
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From: JIM TITTSLER Number: 1517
To: DAVID YIELDING Date: 08/24/93 5:41p
Subj: Re: Chinon/Adaptec Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DY> Does anyone out there have a Chinon 435 on an Adaptec 1542b working?
DY> mine will "see" the drive but tells me the media is invalid.
You may not have the latest firmware in your 435. To use DISCONNECT
/RECONNECT (which is on by default with the 1542) you should get firmware
version M62. This is available from Chinon America (1-310-533-0274).
You can also use software from the Adaptec BBS to disable DISCONNECT
RECONNECT on your 1542b (which is actually a good idea if you are using
DOS).
___
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From: PAM TEMPLE Number: 1518
To: VINCE SORENSEN Date: 08/22/93 1:15p
Subj: CANADIAN SOURCE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Vince Sorensen wrote in a message to Pam Temple:
VS> Yes, we sure do have a catalogue. If you want, you could
VS> leave your address here,
10,000 Sussex Drive, Rosedale, B.C. V0X 1X0
VS> looking forward to hearing from you - thanks for asking!
ThankYOU.
Cheers,
Pam
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From: DONATO RABAGO Number: 1519
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/22/93 8:54p
Subj: SHIPPING? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am from Guadalajara Jalisco., MEXICO, and I would like to know if you can
ship any CD-ROM to México. If you can I would like a price list, please sent
it
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From: DONATO RABAGO Number: 1520
To: BLAINE RICHARD Date: 08/22/93 8:57p
Subj: CDS? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Did I undestand? Do you produce adult CDs or you just sell them?, I m very
interested. I would like to get some here in Guadalajara Mexico, is there any
way?
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From: DONATO RABAGO Number: 1521
To: BILLY BATTON Date: 08/22/93 8:59p
Subj: CDs? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Do you sell adult CDs? Can you ship to Guadalajara? If you can , could you
let me know about prices and terms?
If you can, Thank you
--- SuperBBS 1.17-3 (Eval)
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 1522
To: LOYD CRAFT Date: 08/23/93 1:30p
Subj: Custom cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LC=> **** Digital Enterprises ****
LC=> Custom CDROM Service
Could you send a flyer to:
Adrian Salas
2434 East 32nd Street,
National City, CA 91950-7710,
I would really like your prices, but I have to run now...
Thanks.
* QMPro 1.50 41-2384 * Democracy-A catchword used by Democrats and Republicans
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 1523
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/23/93 1:34p
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BO=> *************** C D - R O M D R I V E P R I C E S ***************
BO=>Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $799.00 Pioneer DMR604X Bare -$1199.
Hi, I'm kinda new to this stuff, so what do you mean about bare? And
what does complete cost?
If you want to respond by net-mail, send to 1:202/1705, from 10:pm to
7:am PST.
Adrian Salas
* QMPro 1.50 41-2384 * Human Error - It's all ***YOUR*** Fault
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 1524
To: GLEN PIWOARCZYK Date: 08/23/93 1:36p
Subj: FREE CDROM CATALOG! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Also Please send a catalog to:
Adrian Salas
2434 East 32nd Street,
National City, CA 91950-7710
* QMPro 1.50 41-2384 * Drop your carrier ... we have you surrounded!
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 1525
To: ALL Date: 08/23/93 1:40p
Subj: Catalog wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi,
I have seen posts here relating to catalogs being mailed on request,
would any dealers here please add my name to your mailing list and send
me your catalogs? I always like to get the best deal around.
Adrian Salas
2434 East 32nd Street,
National City, CA 91950-7710
* QMPro 1.50 41-2384 * Windows is irrelevant. It's existance is futile.
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From: ROY D'ARCANGELO Number: 1526
To: SAM JONES Date: 08/24/93 3:22p
Subj: Panasonic BenchMrk Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thanks Sam I will get it from there....
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From: MICHAEL GEGGUS Number: 1527
To: JOE SLIFER Date: 08/23/93 12:36p
Subj: Re: MITSUMI DRIVES VS PANASONIC Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Joe Slifer to Michael Geggus <=-
MG> benches at 250ms @ 330Kbps using MegaDemo CDBench......Although I bought
MG> the SB Pro seperatly from the CD-ROM I paid $129 for the SB Pro w/STW
MG> encyclopedia for Win MPC, indy 500 and Lemmings (plus other goodies) and
JS> Could you supply that source for the SB Pro & bundeled software.
Computabiity in the Computer Shopper has it for $129US phone 1-800-554-9950
or (414)357-8181 if you can't use 800#s (like me, Japan). Fax (414)357-7814.
They only charged me $6 for shipping to an APO (mil post office) in Japan,
and it took 3 days to get it.
Mike...
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From: MICHAEL GEGGUS Number: 1528
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/23/93 6:33p
Subj: Re: BEGINING... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Rowan Evans to Michael Geggus <=-
MG> CD ROM I/F and audio connector. MegaDemo Benched it at 250ms access
MG> and 330Kbps.
RE>
RE> That's interesting... it only spex at 300Kbps and 450ms in
RE> double-speed mode!
Different Machines/environments/benchmarks/references....My Mitsumi
book indicated a 350ms access and MegaDemos CDbench said it was 400ms
and 150kBps.....The real key was during operations, I noticed the
difference straight away.
RE> What command line parameters did you use for CDMKE41.SYS.... I
RE> couldn't get it to work so I changed to SBCD.SYS (and it works
RE> fine!).....
This is it.......
devicehigh /L:2,13440 =C:\CDMKE41.SYS /D:MVCD001 /R /SBP:220 /N:1 /A:
I only added the /A: from the read.me text on the driver disk, it's not
really necessary it should default to doublespeed. I've tried it high
and low, and both run great with same spex.
... The question is.....What's to become of the Mitsumi in the box?
--- Blue Wave/TG v2.10 [NR]
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From: MICHAEL GEGGUS Number: 1529
To: SAM JONES Date: 08/23/93 12:55p
Subj: Re: 562-b Driver Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Sam Jones to Michael Geggus <=-
MG> the driver (my case CDMKE41.SYS) came with the CD-
SJ> Hello, I also have the Panasonic 562-b and the drive seems to be
SJ> very fast, except for one problem: In DOTT and kQ6 everything pauses
SJ> for a split-second whenever the drive is accessed (ex- to read the
SJ> speech data) then everthing is ok (no choppiness in speech or
SJ> graphics). The driver I am using is SBCD.SYS. I would like to try the
SJ> driver you are using, could you give me the # of a board that I could
SJ> download it from on a first-time call if possible? Thanks, Sam
Sam, the driver (CDMKE41.SYS) came with the drive and controller, purchased
from Wee Yung (TRUC) who usually frequents this echo. My only local BBSs
are here (sigh) in Japan, and I havn't seen it or SBCD.SYS or SBPCD.SYS here
Maybe Wee Yung could assist you there.
As for your delay what CPU are you using and how much memory do you have/
allocate to the CD-ROM. I use the standard set-up with CDMKE41.SYS (no
mention of raw buffers unlike the Mitsumi) and MSCDEX uses 20 EMS buffers.
Both drivers are loaded high (by Memmaker) on a doublespaced disk using
DOS 6.0 (Ok DOS 6 haters take your shots). I'm not experiencing delays
but I did with the mitsumi. The Mitsumi used DMA access (specified by the
driver) The 562B driver did not specify DMA access. I am assumming through
discussions here and throughout that on 486 machines (386 too I beleive)
that DMA access is actually slower (DMA controllers I should say) than
actually using CPU for access.....Food for thought...hope it helps?
Mike.....
... Swapped the LU005 for the 562B captain.........Warp 9 Mr. Scott...
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From: MICHAEL GEGGUS Number: 1530
To: MICHEL ROMY Date: 08/23/93 12:59p
Subj: Re: Panasonic 562b Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Michel Romy to All <=-
MR> Can anyone give me the spec. of the Panasonic 562B CD-Rom drive ? is
Book says 380ms at 300Kbps (mine was faster using MegaDemo CDbench) Caddyless
motorized tray, very nicely made. Some say you can get it for $249US
internal. I paid $279US for it with controller, although I didn't need the
controller as it plugs sraight into the SB Pro. Don't know of an external,
but post a msg to Wee Yung this echo and he'll certainly reply........
MIke....
... No problem is too big for High Explosives!
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From: DON SCHMIDT Number: 1531
To: MICHAEL HAJOVSKY Date: 08/22/93 6:43a
Subj: Re: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
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MH> Who was it that said...
MH> "I DISAGREE OF WHAT YOU SAY, BUT WILL DEFEND TO THE DEATH YOUR
MH> RIGHT TO SAY IT"
Some idiot.<g>
[MTN_QWK 1.0]- ******* Waste is a terrible thing to mine. *******
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From: GIAN BISATZ Number: 1532
To: MARTIN ROODENBURG Date: 08/21/93 1:55a
Subj: Mitsumi Refer: NONE
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Hello Martin
You write the MITSUMI Drive has a 16-Bit AT-Bus interface. Since i
intend to buy one of them, I'd like to know if it is possible to run
this drives with two AT-BUS hard-drives install.
Greetings from switzerland
Gian.
S QSZ portx %4 rz %3 /
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From: LOTHAR KUENZEL Number: 1533
To: DONALD WEN Date: 08/20/93 6:56p
Subj: Re: te koop diverse cdrom Refer: NONE
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Hi, Donald!
15 Aug 93 15:41, Donald Wen wrote to Jurrie Hobers:
DW> Jurrie Hobers wrote,
lots of Stuff deleted
DW> Please, write in English. I caught this message here in San Francisco,
DW> Calif. USA, and so will thousands of English-only speakers around. By the
DW> way, are you Finnish?
I am quite sure, Jurrie is a neighbour of mine from The Netherlands.
Tschuess, See You later, Au Revoir, Ciao,
Lothar
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From: PHIL HORNBY Number: 1534
To: MARK WOMACK Date: 08/19/93 11:08p
Subj: Mistumi/Sb/Sbpro Refer: NONE
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Hi Mark,
On Wednesday August 11 1993, Mark Womack wrote to All:
MW> But while I was looking at the SBPro board, I noticed a plug that
MW> was identified as PC SPEAKER
MW> The manual has no explanation of what it's for.
See Page 18 and Appendix D of the "Getting Started" manual ... :-)
MW> It's 2
MW> prongs and my speaker wire won't match it because it's 4 prongs.
Only two wires are used to connect the speaker; you'll probably be able to see
which two; you'll need to make up a lead to go from the motherboard to the
SB/Pro. The polarity of the two connectors is important for it to work, but
doesn't seem to do any lasting damage if you get 'em the wrong way round ;-)
(Despite careful testing with my multimeter, I still managed to get them
back-to-front, at the first attempt)
MW> I wonder what output goes to the speaker - the sound output?
No, it's the other way round....the beeps that would have gone to the internal
speaker, get redirected to the SoundBlaster.
I don't know if my motherboard is unusual, but I had a wire a 3K3 resistor in
series with the speaker o/p, to reduce the volume a bit. Without it, the beeps
came out as {{{{{BEEPS}}}}}} :-)
Phil.
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From: JOOP STOKVIS Number: 1535
To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Date: 08/18/93 2:52p
Subj: SO MUCH SHAREWARE III Refer: NONE
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Hi Ismail!
Could you send me a catolog with all your CDroms?
My address is:
Joop Stokvis
C/o Stichting BBS Waterland
PObox 1196
1440 BD Purmerend
The Netherlands
Thanks in advance!
Groeten!
Joop
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From: JOOP STOKVIS Number: 1536
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/18/93 2:55p
Subj: NIGHT OWLS 9 Refer: NONE
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Hi Boris!
Could you send me a catalog? My address is:
Joop Stokvis
C/o Stichting BBS Waterland
PObox 1196
1440 BD Purmerend
The Netherlands
I'am intersted in players as well!
Thanks!
Groeten!
Joop
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From: JOOP STOKVIS Number: 1537
To: MICHAEL KONOR Date: 08/18/93 2:57p
Subj: SCSI CDROM Refer: NONE
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Hi Michael!
> SCSI CDROMs For Sale:
>
> Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM External $200.00
> Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM Internal $180.00
Do you ship them to Europe as well? I'am interested in 2 external drives!
You could send me a fax to: xx31 2990 43030.
Groeten!
Joop
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From: JAN WILLEM RUYS Number: 1538
To: PADDY DRURY Date: 08/18/93 10:04p
Subj: DINOSAURS ? WHICH ONE ?? Refer: NONE
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> Me HAVE to have dinosaur cd
Media design interactive features a CD on Dinosaurs. I don't know the exact
price, but it is in the region of 120 $. Contact them on +44 252 737630, or FAX
+44 252 710948.
Cheers,
_/an Willem
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From: TONNY LIN Number: 1539
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/19/93 3:56p
Subj: Re: Encyclopedias Refer: NONE
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05 Aug 93 20:20, Mike Shannon wrote to David Calvin:
MS> We have the Grolier's Illustrated version 2.0 at $35. The MPC version
MS> is $48. Call any time if interested.
Let me know the different between them. Tks!
MS> VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over
5
How about oversea ?
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 1540
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/22/93 7:18p
Subj: NEW CD-SOUTHERN BEAUTIES Refer: NONE
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MS>BR>> BR> ********** SOUTHERN BEAUTIES MAY NOT BE USED ON ANY BBS
MS>Then why did you put FILES.BBS on it?
> ^^^
I think that is called meeting the letter, but not the intent of the
copyright laws. <G> It's kind of like Neverlock saying not to use their
program unless you have purchased the program you are unprotecting. ;)
Jim...
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 1541
To: ALL Date: 08/22/93 8:32p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog Refer: NONE
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I have just finished making our new CD-Rom catalog. We have many new
products and have reduced the price on a lot of the others. If you
would like a copy of this catalog, please log on and download
catalog.zip. It lists all of our titles with prices and descriptions.
Computer Works Jim...
CD-Rom Sales!
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS 14.4k Online Credit Card & COD Orders
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From: JIM FREDERICK Number: 1542
To: ALL Date: 08/23/93 5:44p
Subj: 7th Guest... Refer: NONE
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I'm having problems with 7Th guest. I bought it when it first came
out, and played it through. I haven't tried to play it for a while. In
the meantime I upgraded from DOS 5 to DOS 6.... now it won't work at
all. Has anyone else had this problem? My settings in my config and
autoexec are the same, I have even more free memory. What's the
problem? I'm open to suggestions..... thanks. Jim.
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From: DAVID WILLS Number: 1543
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 08/24/93 7:52a
Subj: ANIME CD? Refer: NONE
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>Not specifically, but I've seen a few .GIFs taken from Anime....
Oh yes, there's plenty to find but I was hoping for an all-anime CD.
The Alde carasele(sp), Night Own, and Pheonix series have a few
scattered around but they fail to put them in their own directory.
They also don't point out that they _are_ anime, or toons for that
matter.
Hmm, I think Alde does however. Just a "Japanese animation" blurb for
a file description tho...
Mabey some _very_ nice person could put the entire contents of the
directory \anime-manga, venice.mps.ohio-state.edu, on a CD or two.
There's more than enough for a pair of CDs, mabey a trio... (this is
prevented by all sorts of thorny issues like Copyrights and who owns
what) <sigh> (Don't you just love red tape?)
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From: ROB MCINTYRE Number: 1544
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/24/93 7:02a
Subj: CD LIQUIDATION! Refer: NONE
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What is the JEDI Collection ? Is it a Star Wars library ?
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From: MAHMUT KURSUN Number: 1545
To: ERIC VANEBERCK Date: 08/21/93 2:39p
Subj: CDROM sellout. Refer: NONE
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> MK> Why dont you ask me? Shipping from Germany to Belgium is cheaper than
> MK> shipping within Belgium.
this was a mistake. I compared the Shippingrate of Books/Newspapers,
shipping books is really cheap within European Community. But CDROM is
approx. 8 German Marks for 2 CDROM within European Community.
bye
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From: ROBERTO REYES Number: 1546
To: CHRIS CONKLIN Date: 08/22/93 11:37a
Subj: Re: Free Catalog Refer: NONE
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Hi Chris
About your message, i'm very interested in a list of available CD's
CC> C-3 Production Systems is now online. If you would like to receive
CC> catalog of CD-ROM disks at discount prices, leave message here, give
CC> me a call or write to the address below.
Roberto A. Reyes
14422 Industry Ave. Suite 7-54
Laredo, TX 78041
Thank You.
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 1547
To: ALL Date: 08/23/93 10:49p
Subj: Norton SpeedCache Refer: NONE
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Hey everyone, please tell me what this Norton SpeedCache is, is this a
cache for the CD-ROM if so, does it come with Norton Utilities, or is it
a totaly different product and how much does it cost and does it work,
you see I have a 350 ms 150 kb/sec Mitsumi drive and though I am
perfectly satisfied by it sofar, I would like to speed it up, so please
tell me what this SpeedCache is about, thanx and C-ya
Ashwin
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 1548
To: ALL Date: 08/21/93 8:21a
Subj: $19 For Cdrom Titles Refer: NONE
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TRUC 16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723 fax 310-402-7240
Call 310-602-2076 8am-12pm, 6pm-9pm PST ask Wee Yung.
D/Generation with Mario Missing.$19* DTP Pro FM - Wave Clip-art......$29
Elec Lib of Art v.I or v.II.....$35 Essential home & bus. sharewares$19*
Family Education Programs Collec$29 Family choice/ Britannica.......$29
Family Doctor Dos/Mac...........$29 Great Cities Vol. I or V II.....$35
Guinness Disk of Record 93 MPC..$29 Guinness Disk of Records no MPC.$19*
Games Pack II...................$25 International Bus & Econ Atlas..$29
IBM OS/2 v2.1 upgrade...........$89 IBM OS/2 v2.1 regular...........$139
Jones In fast Lane MPC..........$19* Jets & Props MPC 2CDs...........$29
King's Quest V..................$19* Kodak Photo access..............$19*
Add $3 for shipping and handling. No exchange for difference titles.
* OLX 2.1 TD * voice 310-602-2076.8am-12pm,6pm-9pm PST. Fax 310-402-7240
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 1549
To: RACHEL REPSTAD Date: 08/21/93 8:21a
Subj: Cd-rom Drives Refer: NONE
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RR>I would very much like any information on new or used CD-
RR>ROM drives for sale. 350ms or less please and SBPro
The Panasonic drive would hook direct to your SB Pro.
CD-ROM Panasonic 522B for SB Pro 380ms w/caddy.................$195.
CD-ROM Panasonic 562B 320ms w/contlr caddyless 300k/s 64kcache.$279.
MIDI cable for any sound card with Joystick port...............$19.
Price does not included shipping.
Call 310-602-2076 8AM-12PM, 6PM-9PM PST or mail order payable to: TRUC
16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723. Accept money order, COD $5extra
* OLX 2.1 TD * voice 310-602-2076.8am-12pm,6pm-9pm PST. Fax 310-402-7240
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From: STEPHEN KOVACSISS Number: 1550
To: MARLIN ROWLEY Date: 08/21/93 11:15p
Subj: Explain Sound Cards To Me Refer: NONE
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MR}TurtleBeach, (4) Gravis' UltraSound (by the way, it's not TRUE 16-bit
}"playback") (5) Any of the other 8/16-bit sound boards that can record in
Where do find that the UltraSound is not TRUE 16-bit?
Stephen
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 1551
To: ALL Date: 08/23/93 3:31a
Subj: Red Hot Specials Refer: NONE
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$$$$$$$ R E D H O T C D' S A T R E D H O T P R I C E S $$$$$$$
ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 - PRICE - $25.00ec
ALL NEW - SHAREWARE VAULT 2 - CD POWERBOX/WINBOX PRICE - $15.00ec
ALL NEW - HOT PIX 5 - DIGITAL DREAMS - SWIMWARE 93 PRICE - $25.00ec
ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM PRICE - $35.00ec
MORE SPECIALS - AMATURE MODELS - GAME/SOUNDWARE PRICE - $25.00ec
PRO PHONE(BUS) $20. WORLD TRAVELER $10. JOKES/PRANKS OR 1001 UTIL $10.
KINGS QUEST VI $49. TOOLWORKS ENCYC - DOS/WIN $50.COMPTIONS ENCYC $60.
COMING SOON - BLACK BOX 5 - - - 24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK
CALL 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) OR 216-225-3263 FOR ADDITIONAL INFO
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 1552
To: ALL Date: 08/23/93 3:31a
Subj: New Additions Refer: NONE
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ N E W A D D I T I O N S ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
LAN MASTER - 100mgs - 2255 files - Utilities, Programs, Text, & More!
Files.BBS Structure - PRICE - $29.
PRECISION - v1.5 - Most Complete Mapping Program Of It's Kind! With CAD,
MAPPING Zoom & Mouse Support + FREE Business Phone Book - PRICE - $79.
ROMATERIAL - Designer/Animated icons, Sound F/X in 6 languages, unique
cursors,blankers, celebrity impressions & More! - PRICE - $25.
KINGS QUEST- ALL NEW adventure game with Super Graphics & Sound.
VI - PRICE - $49.
ORDER LINE ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH - 216-225-3263 - FAX - 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
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From: DON KULHA Number: 1553
To: JOE HAYES Date: 08/21/93 7:10p
Subj: Cdrom Slows Bbs Refer: NONE
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DK> about WEB NOS is that it's less finicky about what network cards it
DK> can use andin some instances supports more options on them (ie,
DK> addresses/IRQs). Good stuff...made my life a bit more pleasant. Their
DK> number is1.415.331.1449 in Sausalito, CA.
JH> Thanks or the info Don, Just wondering, will the WEB
JH> NOS work with the lantasti 2mbps cards?
JH> If so how much do they want for there software?
I have no idea what the list is. Have a friend selling it for $40 per
node. As far as I know the lantastic 2mbps cards don't work with anything but
lantastic. I'd sell them with lantastic to someone and switch over to 10mbps
coax ethernet cards which can be had for $65 for new NE2000 clones or used
3Com
cards. I think your CDROM would respond very positively to the faster
interface
cards and faster network software. I used to have collisions with my 7 cdroms
that would lockup and kill Lantastic. Not so with the WEB Nos.
DCK
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From: JOHN ROBERTSON Number: 1554
To: ERIC HSIAO Date: 08/22/93 9:45p
Subj: Speedcache & Disc Caddies Refer: NONE
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Hi, Eric!
EH> MCSDEX driver 3.02 - is that the latest? Also, I
EH> noticed that various stores can rip you off with the
EH> price of caddies. I went to a local computer show and
EH> they had caddies for $4-4.50 each, but when I went
Well, I've found that if you look in DOS 6.0's directory you'll find MSCDEX
2.22 parked there, that is unless you are using a BETA version or prhaps you
didn't read the version # correctly. Also with respect to your comment on the
prices of caddies you should be aware that there are copies of the licensed
caddies out there... easily recognized by several facets 1) The clear lid
should have no ripples on the surface, & 2) The printing on the back of the CD
caddies should be crisp and sharp. I don't know where the copies are coming
from but there are only two licensed plants in the world for making these, one
is in Japan, and the other in the USA. The Japanese version uses a stainless
steel shutter and the USA version is aluminum. The copies will jam in your cd
player or they will cause your spin motor to suffer from excessive drag. The
better cd players such as SONY or TOSHIBA will spit these out as they slow
down
the motor from being uneven and causing the coupler to drag, I don't know what
happens in the TEXEL (UAC) drive but I wouldn't want ot find out. So in
closing
there may be a good reason why those caddies are so cheap at the swap meets,
that may be all they are worth!
:-#
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From: ROY D'ARCANGELO Number: 1555
To: SAM JONES Date: 08/23/93 10:19a
Subj: Panasonic Benchmrk Refer: NONE
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In a msg on <Aug 22 23:04>, Sam Jones of 1:396/27 writes:
SJ>> on how to correct the situation?
RE>>
RE>> Sorry... I think its one of those things you have to live with! If
RE>> you think its bad, try running on a friends (or dealers) single
SJ>
SJ> Hello, Well after playing around with the newer version of SBCD.SYS
(6/93)
SJ> I can now definately say that all of my audio problems are GONE! The
slight
SJ> video pause is still there (though now barely noticeable) and I can live
with
SJ> it! I am so glad that this was a driver problem! Later, Sam
SJ>
SJ> -!- Maximus 2.01wb
SJ> ! Origin: The Node III BBS New Orleans LA (504) 347-4320 (1:396/27)
I came into your message I guess a little late. I was wondering if you were
talking about a driver for the newer Panasonics, 562b. I just got one the
other
day and installed it with the software disk that came with it. The software
does not have SBCD.SYS though. I have a SB PRO, 8-bit card, that I am using
with this CD. Can you advise where I might be able to obtain the latest
drivers
for the above. Thanks...
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From: CHRIS ROBINSON Number: 1556
To: LOUIS GHINIS Date: 08/23/93 9:04a
Subj: 16 Bit Sound Card Refer: NONE
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It looks like Creative Labs has sold you. They all use the OPL-3 so the
quality is the same. I just want the flexibility of SCSI as Panasonic is
not the only double-speed drives around. There's plenty of software
packed with it (Midisoft Sequencer, CD player, text-to-speech,
Trackblaster Pro, Pro Mixer,etc.). I don't think either of us are going
to be disappointed in any way thanks to MediaVision and Creative Labs
strong hold in sound.
Have fun and make noise ....... CR
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 1557
To: DAVID BURKE Date: 08/23/93 11:58a
Subj: Thanks Refer: NONE
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Not being a sysop, I don't know how echos are started/stopped. Your
suggestions are good ones, IMHO. Someone had suggested an adult CD-ROM echo,
but I haven't seen any traffic about it lately.
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: SAM JONES Number: 1558
To: ROY D'ARCANGELO Date: 08/23/93 2:19p
Subj: Panasonic Benchmrk Refer: NONE
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If you are here in N.O, i have uploaded the file(s) SBCD_DOS.ZIP and
SBCD.ZIP to a few local BBS's (La MedSig, Just Trying It, Southern Star, Node
III) so if you look around on these boards you can dnload it there.
Later, Sam
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 1559
To: KEN BACHMAN @ 930/1 Date: 08/22/93 10:30p
Subj: Re: Cd-rom Games Refer: NONE
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Hey Ken, I just got 7th guest and I have gone pretty far, in it though
now the puzzles seem to be getting harder and harder, and I was
considering to buy Sherlock Holmes, but you see I have the regular
Sherlock Holmes and the Lost Files, it took 28 meg and I was stuck in
the begining of that game for a long time so I don't intened to buy
anymore Sherlock Holmes games, but I really want to buy Wing Commander
II deluxe, too bad the place I went did not have it, by the way what
kind of CD-ROM do you have and what CD-ROM games do you have for it? Do
you use any CD-ROM cache? well write back. C_ya
Ashwin
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 1560
To: BRENT LYNCH Date: 08/22/93 10:34p
Subj: Re: Cd-rom Games Refer: NONE
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Hey Brent, I thought about buying Wing Commander II dulxe but when I
could not find it in the place I went to , I instead got 7TH GUEST, I
think I made a good choice in buying 7th guest instaed of WIng
Commander, and since I did that I cannot buy another game for a while,
anyway I sure want to get Day of the Tentacle, about KIng's Quest, I got
the CD-ROM version of King's Quest 5 and it took me 2 days to beat the
whole game and I have the regular version of King's Quest 6 and it took
me all of 2 weeks to beat the game so I will not buy the CD-ROM version
of King's Quest 6, thanx for replying and write back, I need some
messages to keep me busy.
Ashwin
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 1561
To: LOU PETRALIA Date: 08/22/93 10:37p
Subj: Cd-rom Games Refer: NONE
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Hey Lou, I don't think I will be able to get DAy of the TEntacle of a
while since i just got 7th Guest and that costs me 59 bucks and my dad
will not buy me another game for while. Anyway if and when I can
convince my dad to get me another game, my choice will be Day of the
TEnctacle, well write back and C-ya
Ashwin
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From: NICK FUNK Number: 1562
To: WEE YUNG Date: 08/23/93 6:34a
Subj: Cdrom Forsale Refer: NONE
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In a msg on <Aug 21 08:21>, Wee Yung of 1:102/138 writes:
WY> CD-ROM Panasonic 562B 320ms w/contlr caddyless 300k/s 64kcache.$279.
What can you tell me about this drive. Is this a good drive?
I have a new MediaVision ProAudio Studio 16 sound board. Will this SCSI port
work with this drive?
Any information is greatly appreciated!!!!!!!!!1
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From: MICHAEL KONOR Number: 1563
To: STEVE MCKAIN Date: 08/23/93 11:12a
Subj: Re: Scsi Cdrom Refer: NONE
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>MK>Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM External $200.00
>
>Is this drive daisy chain able???
Yes! The external case has two 50 pin centronics which can be used for
daisy chaining drives.
205-837-5053
*FSED91j*
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From: JASON KLANK Number: 1564
To: GERALD RYCKMAN Date: 08/22/93 10:14p
Subj: Speedcache & Disc Caddies Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Gerald!
Friday August 20 1993 06:56, Gerald Ryckman wrote to Eric Hsiao:
> MCSDEX v3.02?!??! Wow...that is definitely new. The one that came with
> my CDROM is only v2.1 and the one that came with MSDOS 6.0 is
> (I believe) v2.21. Both of them do not support MSDOS 6.0 and I had to
> use SETVER loaded in memory in order to do so. Finally, I had to hack
> into the program in order to make it compatible with MSDOS 6.0 without
> the need of using SETVER.
Hmm...Funny thing. I use DOS6 and the MSCDEX that came with it...I also don't
use SETVER....Works just fine...
Jason
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From: JOE PATTERSON Number: 1565
To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Date: 08/22/93 7:09a
Subj: Re: Walnut Creek Releases Refer: NONE
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Hi! I have just installed a Pioneer 604X on my BBS and am looking for Cds will
you please FAX me your latest catalog? You can FAX it to the number listed in
the tag line. Thanks. :{)
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From: JOE PATTERSON Number: 1566
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/22/93 7:45a
Subj: Cd's Refer: NONE
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Hi Mike, ya got a magic name for the catalog? If not whats the file name?
Thanks....... Jp :{)
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From: SAM JONES Number: 1567
To: ZORAN ANANIJEV Date: 08/23/93 11:32p
Subj: Sb16asp+wblaster Refer: NONE
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ZA> 2. How do you get the MT32 emulation to work on
ZA> games that support them, the
ZA> W/Blaster has the relevant .CBK files and I even
ZA> load them manually before
ZA> I get into a game still no go is there a driver or
ZA> something I am missing out?
All I do is run WBMODE MT.32 before playing a game that supports the MT-32
and it works ok. The games that I have used the MT-32 emulation for are Dune,
Stunts, MPS World Circuit, Supaplex (sounds excellent), and Wheel Of Fortune
w/
Vanna White. Do any of your games supporting General MIDI work (in other
words, do any of your games in DOS work with the WaveBlaster)? There is no
TSR
required, the games have the MT-32 drivers included with them, they only need
to "find" the WB and direct the MIDI output to it.
Good Luck, Sam
I am VERY pleased with my WB by the way!
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 1568
To: BRIAN HIPPS Date: 08/23/93 7:08a
Subj: Files.bbs Refer: NONE
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-> incompatible with the software I'm running. The author of the softwar
-> use the files.bbs format that is used in the Mega cd's. Is there any
-> that use the mega type files.bbs? And why don't we have a standard fo
-> files.bbs? One more question if I may what is the lastest version of
FILES.BBS is the most abused word in this business.... Long ago,
QuickBBS referred to their file listings as "FILES.BBS". This format
contained the file name, beginning on column #1, and a 45 byte file
description beginning on column #14. That's a FILES.BBS description
file.
Then someone came along & began sticking sizes and dates between the
filename & description... The "FILES.BBS" word survived. This was no
big deal, as most BBS packages that used FILES.BBS had to ability to
filter out the time & date.
Then someone came along & began calling PCBoard description files
"FILES.BBS".... A PCBOARD description ain't even close to being
"FILES.BBS". The reason most shareware CD ROMs contain PCBoard
descriptions is that they can easily be created from the FILE_ID.DIZs
now found within most archives. To edit a PCBoard description down to
FILES.BBS costs money & takes time, if the descriptions are to be made
meaningful and not "chopped off" at the 45th character. Shareware Studio
contains FILES.BBS description files, as does the Mega series and a few
others.
Here's a FILES.BBS description file:
FILES.BBS This description can be up to 45 bytes.
8LETTERS.ZIP This is another file description
.
.
.
tim
FILES.BBS historian
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 1569
To: BRUCE BOWMAN Date: 08/23/93 7:01a
Subj: Disk Needed Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Does anyone know where I can get a CD-ROM with an environmental theme
Yep, but it's about a month from completion - all original & BBS ready!
tim
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From: CR HAMILTON Number: 1570
To: KEVIN PLUMMER Date: 08/23/93 9:42p
Subj: Night Owl 9 $25 Refer: NONE
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Kevin Plummer wrote in a message to All:
KP> N i g h t O w l 9 . 0
Does this have the files.bbs format for use on the bbs?
CR
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From: TIMOTHY ELLIS Number: 1571
To: ALL Date: 08/22/93 3:47p
Subj: Illust. Encyc. Config File. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Greetings All.
I am posting this message for a friend.
He recently bought a second hand CD-ROM drive, and some bundled CD's.
One of these was The Software Toolworks Illustrated Encyclopedia IBM version
2.0.
The config.exe files is corrupted, and he is unable to get a replacement in
Australia, as the suppliers do not have a copy of version 2 anymore.
Can anyone help with a copy of the following file :
Config.exe 88633 19-8-91 12.00:00pm
If you can help, please netmail me details of how you can be contacted and I
will pass the info on.
Share and Enjoy,
Timothy.
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From: ANTONY WUTH Number: 1572
To: MARLIN ROWLEY Date: 08/22/93 1:23a
Subj: Wanted: Refer: NONE
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Marlin,
16 Aug 93 16:15, Marlin Rowley wrote to Antony Wuth:
MR> Antony,
MR> I use MCI's Cd Audio. I don't know what version of windows you have
MR> but if you want my version, I am more than willing to give it to you.
It all work's fine now. I got really really mad at windows, deteted it waited
about an hour, Reinstalled it and it all worked.
I think it was just a great microsoft mistery.
seya
Antony
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From: PHIL BURTON Number: 1573
To: STEPHEN RANSON Date: 08/23/93 2:11p
Subj: Re: Cd-roms - Exlnt Prices Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
===> Overheard Rowan Evans say something to Stephen Ranson
===> about Cd-roms - Exlnt Prices.
RE> Sorry, you can't tempt me! I can source several of the CD-ROMs you
RE> mention (the ones I am interested in!) from other dealers cheaper!
Hi Rowan,
Would like to know where you are referring to, after checking out the
US prices in this echo the Aussi ones are nothing short of depressing.
(No input from anyone re the exchange rate, etc. I've been through all
that and the US prices are still cheaper than ours.)
Anyway, am interested in knowing where the best prices are so I can
check 'em out.
Cheers,
... Smash forehead on keyboard to continue.....
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From: STEPHEN EATON Number: 1574
To: MICHAEL M Date: 08/22/93 8:18a
Subj: Re: Cd-rom Problems Refer: NONE
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G'day Michael,
SE> I'm using the Adaptec 1542 controller and all the associated
MM> I had this problem, using a 1540. Removing the jumper
MM> from the auto sense
MM> disable (J6, pin 5) has cured it!
I'll give it a go, thanks for that. I did think it was the 1542, but I'll
give
it a go.
Thanks,
Stephen
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From: SUNNY LEUNG Number: 1575
To: ALL Date: 08/22/93 11:19a
Subj: Panasonic 562/563 Refer: NONE
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Hi everybody,
I've got a SB 16ASP hooked up to the old SB Pro CD-ROM. I'm thinking of
upgrading to the new Panasonic double speed drive. Does anyone in Australia
supply this drive, and what would be the price?
BTW, what's the difference between the 562 and 563?
Another question <g> from me - has anyone got a Waveblaster? What's it like
in terms of quality etc. ?
There does not seem to be any software that supports it though ...
Regards, Sunny.
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From: SUNNY LEUNG Number: 1576
To: ALL Date: 08/22/93 11:24a
Subj: Aus Creative Labs Bbs Refer: NONE
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Hi everybody,
Is there a Creative Labs BBS in Australia. If so, what's the number?
Regards, Sunny.
... I can't steer without my beer.
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From: BRENDAN FARTHING Number: 1577
To: ALL Date: 08/23/93 6:08p
Subj: Aust. Phone Disc Refer: NONE
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Has anyone used the Australian Phone Book CD ?
Also, does anyone know the difference between the one that sells for about
$1500.00 (I think it's called Aus On Disc) and the one that sells for about
$50.00 (This one is called Australian Phone Disk).
The one that sells for $50 contains the entire Yellow and White Pages for
every
state in Australia.
Why is there such a HUGE price difference between that disk and the $1500.00
one ??????
Anyone that knows please reply,
Regards,
Brendan Farthing.
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From: JOHN CALLICRATE Number: 1578
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 08/23/93 11:24p
Subj: EZ-SCSI Refer: NONE
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If you're interested, I have EZ-SCSI disk & manual (both are originals)
I'll let them go for $50.00 total, that includes I mail them to you.
If someone wants it, call me at 503/623-4924. I would only accept
payment of a money order.
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From: VID KID Number: 1579
To: MARTIN ROODENBURG Date: 08/23/93 3:47p
Subj: Mitsumi CD-Rom drives Refer: NONE
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From what i heard there was a module available for the mitsumi
that would enable you to connect a soundcard. But without that module it
will not work with a soundcard. From all the information i have gathered over
the last few months about the mitsumi. The modules between $50-70. I have
only seen one place that had it available. But cant seem to remember where.
Try contacting mitsumi and they might be able to tell you where to get it.
Vidkid
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From: VID KID Number: 1580
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/23/93 3:50p
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
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Boris on the DRM 604X when you say bare. Do you mean without cables & software?
I have seen a few places offering the same but they include the cables and
software. What Scsi II controllers are available for that drive that come with
the drivers for it? Last of all what is the name of your company?
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1581
To: STEVE GERWECK Date: 08/24/93 12:01a
Subj: BEST CDROM PRICES!! Refer: NONE
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SG> DC> * Busty Babes......29.95
SG> SG> Can you match Mike Shannon's offer of $29 PPD??
SG> BM> Oh, come on! For 95 cents, you have sysops all over the world carrying
SG> BM> a post showing your unwillingness to do your business on your own
SG> BM> dime? If a vendor does a good job, 95 cents is nothing. Give us all a
SG> BM> break and do your ordering in another manner.
SG>Give me a break! You forget the $4 or $5 for shipping.
Steve,
Why not just order it from us and save yourself the aggravation? We have
an 800 number, and we ship 2-day mail from within the U.S. Taking the
*other* route, an order from Canada could take anywhere from 3 days to 2
weeks, plus the shipping would probably be a little higher. Interested,
call 1-800-767-1284 and it will ship out the same day. $29 ppd. No
surcharge for plastic. No hassles.
Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1582
To: PADDY DRURY Date: 08/24/93 12:01a
Subj: tag line ??? Refer: NONE
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PD> MS> * SLMR 2.1a * If it's British, it leaks.
PD>As a Brit I am not to impressed with the the tag line
PD>( UNLESS you are talking about our fine line in
PD>watering cans < grin >
No Paddy, it was directed more in the area of your fine British
autos, one of which I own. <g> Actually the ol' Lotus isn't too bad
for leaks, but I've seen some MG's and Jags that have created oil
slicks on par with the Exxon Valdez. 8) All part of the fun I guess.
PD>On another point what sort of a deal could you do me for sending over
PD>a bundle of CD's
PD>Say 5 copies of ten tiles for a test run
I can give you excellent prices in quantity. Call me sometime at
509-457-2892 and we can talk further! Have around 325 titles in stock
right now, so there are many titles to choose from in all categories.
Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1583
To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 12:01a
Subj: CD-ROM LIQUIDATION! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
STARVECTOR CD-ROM LIQUIDATION SPECIALS!
Q & A 4.0...........$34 Powerpak Gold 3.0...$15 House of Games......$20
Compton's Interact..$95 US Wars: Korea......$29 US Wars: Des. Storm.$29
Super CD 2..........$15 Super CD 1..........$14 Programmers Megapak.$29
Canadian Shareware..$19 MAC Shareware.......$22 Clipart Heaven......$19
5Star Prem. Windows.$27 Otherware I.........$17 Jedi Collection.....$39
History of Jazz.....$45 Hacker Chronicles...$24 Reel Clips..........$35
Kodak Photo CD......$18 Phoenix 3.0.........$12 Game Arena..........$10
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1584
To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 12:01a
Subj: NEW CD'S @ STARVECTOR! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BRAND NEW CD ARRIVALS AT STARVECTOR!
Soundware Coll'ctn..$27 So Much Shareware 3.$28 QRZ Ham Radio.......$19
Hobbes OS/2 1993....$16 Hamware 1993........$28 Game Arena..........$13
Eagle Eye Shareware.$25 Up All Night........$17 Precision Mapping...$88
Fantazia Fonts/Snds.$29 Electronic Cookbook.$33 Learning Adventure..$13
M/M Computer Tutor..$24 Sound F/X Library...$19 Cookbook Heaven.....$27
Int'l Graphics Libr.$33 Musical Instruments.$57 The Holy Bible......$24
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1585
To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 12:01a
Subj: D/L OR FREQ OUR CATALOG! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
***************************************************************************
FREQ OR DOWNLOAD STARVECTOR'S CURRENT CATALOG W/ 300+ CD-ROM TITLES!
***************************************************************************
To all CD users who would like to receive Starvector's catalog of the 300+
CD-ROM titles that we stock, you may either download our catalog file from
our BBS, or Freq (file request) it. (CD descriptions + prices included)
BBS: 509-457-0206 - Download STARCAT.ZIP from <F>ile menu. (1st call)
FREQ: 1:3407/101 - File request STARCAT.ZIP
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From: BRANDON RICKERSON Number: 1586
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 08/24/93 1:38p
Subj: Police Quest 4 (CD-ROM) Refer: NONE
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> I also want to get the CD version of the Wing Commander series.
I have both of the Wing Commander games on CD. Its great but I really don't
have a fast CD-ROM drive but its still great. Live long and prosper! =>
-=< Roger Wilco >=-
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 1587
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 08/23/93 4:36p
Subj: * X-RATED CD-ROM * Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> > JR> Is there any X-Rated CD-ROM with animals ?
->
-> > Isn't that aginst the law in some states? the laws
-> > for sodomy being what they are.
->
-> That's Beastiality, not Sodomy - but you are correct otherwise....
You people are SICK!!! Can you not find something intelligent to talk
about other than this GARBAGE!!!!
HELP! Moderator!!!
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 1588
To: BRUCE BOWMAN Date: 08/23/93 4:38p
Subj: Disk needed Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Does anyone know where I can get a CD-ROM with an environmental theme
Sure do! Check out Eco Quest I and II from Sierra On-Line.
1-800-757-7707.
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 1589
To: RACHEL REPSTAD Date: 08/23/93 4:42p
Subj: Police Quest 4 (CD-ROM) Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I have at least 32 sierra/dynamix games. I love the King's Quest seri
-> King's Quest III would be my favorite. I have beaten all but King's Q
-> would have beaten that too but the packed file is corrupt in my disks
-> get it from someone else though. I also have every space quest game e
-> V. Space Quest III would probably be my favorite in that series. I al
-> Willy Beamish and have beaten that too. I really like Conquests of Ca
-> Have you played that? There are a few arcade sections where you have
-> fight and you joust with the black knight. I also like the eco-quest
-> The rainforest one is really cool. It is so awesome! You can't die in
-> discovery series games! There are a few games that I really need to h
-> Freddy Pharkas and conquests of the longbow. I also want Leisure Suit
-> Do you have any of these games?
I really like KQ3 too! KQ5 is really nice if you have a sound card.
The entire Space Quest series is my favorite. (except 2, that one is too
hard I think). I have Willy Beamish too, want CD version. Also have
laura Bow 2, great game it is. I have Space Quest 5, and man is it
funny!
Short, but funny! Do you know if there is a CD version of SQ5?
I also have Red Baron and Aces of the Pacific.
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 1590
To: RAY DYER Date: 08/23/93 4:44p
Subj: BBS Shareware CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I bought a Mitsumi drive for $240can and enjoy it. Nice drive, but po
-> correction for the smallest scratch you can't feel, and can only see
-> barely with certain light conditions.
-> (Must be due to the physical handeling of them)
That's weird. I have discs with all kinds of scratches and they play
just fine!
Mitsumi 16bit cont.
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From: MARLIN ROWLEY Number: 1591
To: ANDREW SEE Date: 08/24/93 10:22a
Subj: Explain Sound Cards to me Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I found this information in the PC Magazine. It says it does 12-bit playback
and 16-bit recording.
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From: CARLOS BENITZ Number: 1592
To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 2:37a
Subj: Maximus & Downloading Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm having a bit of trouble when downloading a file from the disc at 1200bps
(that's what's in the notebook, I haven't watched other users yet so I don't
know about faster speeds).
Every 16K, *exactly*, Maximus reports "Unable to read drive F" (the rom).
When I'm running FrontDoor/Maximus alone, the file transmission stops at 16384
bytes, *WITHOUT ERROR* (although obviously the entire file isn't there).
Attempting to resume under Zmodem results in a new copy which terminates at the
same place.
When I'm running FrontDoor/Maximus under a DV window (XDV actually, loading DV
high), at every 16K (exactly) there is an error visible at the sysop end, but
the drive apparently recovers and the DL continues. At the user end nothing is
noticed to be wrong.
This happens only when DLing from the disc. DL from the harddrive works fine,
copying from the disc to the HD and DLing works fine too. The disc is intact,
the drive works fine, etc.
My CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT should be in the next message. Thanks for your
help.
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From: CARLOS BENITZ Number: 1593
To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 2:38a
Subj: MAX & DL, Supplemental Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Here is my CONFIG.SYS:
DEVICE=C:\QEMM386.SYS NOSH RAM
DEVICE=SSTORDRV.SYS /NOHIGH
DEVICE=D:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:3 C:\BOOT\NJRAMDXP.SYS /P90
LASTDRIVE=K
SHELL=C:\COMMAND.COM C:\ /E:256 /P
BUFFERS=1
FILES=40
FCBS=1
STACKS 0,0
DEVICE=C:\BOOT\MTMCDS.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:310 /A:0
REM DEVICE=C:\BOOT\MTMCDE.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:310 /A:0 /M:20 /I:10 /X
Here is my AUTOEXEC.BAT:
@echo off
d:\qemm\loadhi /r:1 d:\qemm\BUFFERS=30
d:\qemm\loadhi /r:2 c:\dos\share
rem d:\qemm\loadhi /r:3 c:\dos\doskey
d:\qemm\loadhi /r:1 c:\boot\ksmus20/1
rem c:\loadhi /r:2 c:\mscdex.exe /d:mscd001 /m:10 /v /e
d:\qemm\loadhi /r:2 d:\star\util\vmode monitor
d:\qemm\loadhi /r:2 d:\star\util\vmode vesa
c:\boot\mscdex.exe /d:mscd001 /m:10 /v /e
SET BLASTER=A220 I7 D1 T4
SET SOUND=D:\SBPRO
d:\sbpro\sbp-set /m:12 /voc:12 /cd:12 /fm:12 /line:12
PATH = c:\;C:\DOS;C:\BATCH;C:\FD;C:\UTIL;C:\ADDSTOR;C:\MAX;d:\pctools
prompt $p$g
set dv=d:\dv
set fd=c:\fd
set golded=c:\fd\ged
SET PCTOOLS=D:\PCTOOLS
set squish=c:\fd\squish
SET TEMP=e:\
c:
f.bat [F.BAT runs Front Door. XDV (DESQview) works better usually.]
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From: CARLOS BENITZ Number: 1594
To: TONY STOTT Date: 08/23/93 10:47p
Subj: Re: Cd-rom Games Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TS>DS>Try Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego?, espically if you have a
TS>DS>sound card hooked up.
TS>You should hear it with a Soundblaster Pro (for sound Fx) and a Sound
TS>Canvas (for music)! What a combination! Awesome!
You're using two soundcards in the same machine at the same time
and the game knows which output goes where?
* SLMR 2.1 * Too many laws, not enough freedom.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1595
To: JOHN PRITCHARD Date: 08/23/93 7:55p
Subj: H E L P ANYONE!!!?!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> How good is the SB16/TEXEL combination?
Since they do NOT work together, the combination is NOT a good one.
> Which is more stable SB16 or PAS16?
Both appear to be "stable", but the PAS16 will work with a LOT more CD-ROM
drives than the SB16 ever THOUGHT about working with....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1596
To: DAVID MCSPADDEN Date: 08/23/93 10:42p
Subj: CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> I keep forgeting to add that my BBS runs on a U.S.R. Sportster. The
>CDWORLD.zip file is around 9000 kb so it only takes a couple of seconds to
>download.....
Impressive compression?
8-)
* SLMR 2.1a * Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1597
To: TODD PRUSKI Date: 08/23/93 10:46p
Subj: MPC COMPLIANT? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>have also recommended against getting the radio shack (mitsuba?) piece of
junk.
> Although, recently they have started making (mysteriously) 390ms CD-ROM
>drives, and at the same price as the 1 second older version.
Radio Shack CD-ROM drives were NEVER made by Radio Shack - the actual drives
were standard Mitsumi 600ms models with a RS designed interface card.
I would BET that their "390 ms" drives are the CURRENT Mitsumi LU005s in yet
another OEM version....
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From: SAM JONES Number: 1598
To: MICHAEL GEGGUS Date: 08/24/93 11:37p
Subj: Re: 562-b Driver Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thanks alot for the advice as I finally got this little problem ironed out.
The driver that came with my drive was a few months old (actually older than
the drive itself by 3 months. The older driver would "stop" the music coming
thru the SB16/WaveBlaster when the CD was acccessed and the newer version of
SBCD.SYS fixes this bug and everything is now ok, and I am REALLY glad that I
bought the drive as it is very fast (especialy for the $$$).
Later, Sam
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From: DOUG DAGGER Number: 1599
To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 8:25a
Subj: CD-ROM's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm new to CD-ROM's and was wondering what kind I should get. I'm only 15
and on a limited budget. If anyone has info on any CD-ROM which would be under
say $700, and has the best sound and graphics for that price, please tell me.
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From: STEVE PESANT Number: 1600
To: DON RIEB Date: 08/23/93 9:10p
Subj: Thanks Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi there Don
Well I would just like to thank-you for the quick response...and for sending
me
your price list...Thanks.
-=Cheers=-
Steve.
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From: DAVID BURKE Number: 1601
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 08/23/93 10:21p
Subj: Thanks Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Not being a sysop, I don't know how echos are started/stopped. Your
-> suggestions are good ones, IMHO. Someone had suggested an adult
-> CD-ROM but I haven't seen any traffic about it lately.
Well, the idea is Bob or some moderator, (people who like extra work,
hehehe) will pick up on the idea and start or restructure the CD echos
on FIDO now.
-=- Dave
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From: JIM CLEMENTS Number: 1602
To: BOB JENKINS Date: 08/23/93 1:35p
Subj: Buying From The U.s. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BJ> Hello. I am a new CD-rom owner,interested in purchasing from the U.S. Up
BJ>here in Canada, the prices are...well...scary! I would like to know what is
BJ>involved ie. customs/duty etc. Thank You.
No duty (computer-related item), but there is GST at the border and
quite possibly a broker's fee depending on how it is shipped. UPS
and other such services usually will have someone call you (usually
from Windsor for items destined for Ontario) and ask if you have
your own broker or would like them to handle it for you. Fee varies
with amount, I believe. It should be considered when figuring out
the actual price of the item. And it is better if you can have it
sent to someone in the States and pick it up -- you save that
brokerage fee, a percentage of the shipping fee if there is one,
and depending on your stay outside the country, could eliminate
the need to declare.
Be aware, though, that buying in the States has its problems.
The biggest is that U.S. warranties are usually only good in
the U.S. That means you normally can't take a Brand X item to
a Brand X dealer in Canada and get it repaired if something
goes flooey. It has to be returned to the U.S. and that can
create more border concerns/costs if you don't have the
paperwork for customs done in advance.
And of course when you add the almost 30 per cent due to
the current exchange rate, the shipping fees (often higher
for Canada), GST on the full amount in Canadian dollars,
you may not save as much as might think.
If you have to send it back to the States just once for
warranty repair, you could easily blow whatever you might
save.
Happy hunting. Cheers!
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From: ARNIE GROSS Number: 1603
To: ERIC HO Date: 08/23/93 9:32a
Subj: Re: Dr. Cd-rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
.
Eric -
In reference to Dr. Windows, Dr. Music, and Dr. Shareware:
Country Fair Software would be interested in handling all
three of your discs, but would need to talk to you about
dealer pricing first.
You neglected to post a voice phone number in your ad.
- Arnie :+}
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From: ARNIE GROSS Number: 1604
To: CHRIS CLEMSON Date: 08/23/93 9:27a
Subj: Re: Font Cd Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Chris -
AG> CD-ROMS for sale - $18.00 each (incl. shipping)
AG> FontMaster CD Library - High quality fonts (NOT shareware)
CC> Hi, What types of fonts are these? If TrueType I would be
CC> interested. Would $18 include shipping to the UK?
These are bit-mapped files (not TT). Shipping to the UK would
be an additional $3.00
- Arnie :+}
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From: CARLOS BENITZ Number: 1605
To: TRAVIS CAMPBELL Date: 08/23/93 10:43a
Subj: Kings Quest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
21 Aug 93 02:40, Travis Campbell wrote to Carlos Benitz:
TC>> have the hardriver version of KQ6! So whats different in the cd-rom
TC>> version?
CB>> I didn't get any manuals with my cdrom version.
TC> Did you call Sierra Online & get some manuals?
Not yet. It's just sitting in my drawer, still in its shrinkwrap. I bought
it
at a swap meet, and later it occurred to me that it's probably a used game
that
someone shrinkwrapped, so I'm hosed. Sometime when I get extra time, I'll
open
it up and look at the install/readme's. (The thing I bought is a shrink
wrapped jewl case.) I suppose I need manuals to work it?
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From: CARLOS BENITZ Number: 1606
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 08/23/93 10:47a
Subj: Shareware And Cds Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
20 Aug 93 13:27, Brice Fleckenstein wrote to Carlos Benitz:
>> FF> I think it will only be a matter of time before ""CD of the month"
>> FF> clubs start and everybody will get a nice new CD in the mailbox each
>> FF> month.
>> Were there "Disk of the mnth" clubs 10 years ago?
BF> CBS CD Club has been around appx. 10 years, not sure about the BMG
DisK, floppy of the month clubs. I was attempting to point out that this is a
fairly new technology, not well intrenched in the average home. While we're
getting closer, I wouldn't expect a successful mass-market disc of the month
club for about 6-18 more months. Nothing big for probably 2 years.
While the readers of this echo may almost all have cdrom drives, by no means
do
most computers. People without computers have no need for a cdrom drive.
Unlike audio cd's which could attach to almost any stereo, cdroms apply to a
smaller market right now.
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From: DON KULHA Number: 1607
To: LOUIS GHINIS Date: 08/22/93 11:13p
Subj: Pas16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LG> I would agree with you about the PAS-16XL but as for buying the
LG> toshiba 3401b I wouldn't even consider it its overpriced. The panasonic
LG> 562b is 320ms not 350ms it can transfer 300kb/sec on the sb 16 card
LG> using cdpseed (microsoft's cdrom benchmark) someone else out there was
LG> saying that the benchmark tests with the pas 16+ 3401b were very poor
LG> less than the required 300kb/sec level and why pay twice as much for a
LG> toshiba when its the same in transfer speed. If the 562B did not exist
LG> these past two months I'd definately buy a toshiba rather than a mitsumi
LG> but now that the 562b panasonic is here to take over toshiba,nec,sony in
LG> the over priced market you can't justify getting the same features and
LG> paying twice as much when i can get 2 panasonics for the price of 1
Get real Louis. I think the Panasonic double speed at it's price is a
good deal but "the same features"? Not even close. You're comparing a 200
millisecond drive to a 320ms, a 256k internal cache to 64k, SCSI to
proprietary
interface, a caddy drive to caddyless, forgetting the self cleaning optics,
extra dust door, etc. The Panasonic is a consumer drive designed with
compromises to make a price point versus a serious no compromise state of the
art drive. They both have their place but the Panasonic doesn't stack up
evenly
with the Tosh by a long shot.
DCK
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 1608
To: KEITH HALL Date: 08/24/93 3:07a
Subj: Re: Worm's Vs. Cd-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> If I purchase a panasonic worm or other manufactures worm can
>> I use the same cd in my cd-rom?
NO, as a worm drives media is not only diffrent than a normal cd,
but is diffrent in the way it writes to it's media as well. A worm
drive is nothing more than a large tape backup unit, so to speak.
Although, there are other usages for it, you will be unable to use
the media from the worm drive in the manner you expressed above.
Hope this helps...
Boris Osadciw
... If you're not the lead dog, everything looks the same!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 1609
To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 3:07a
Subj: Limited Supply Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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Purchase any current Shareware CD for $15. additional with drive!
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Boris Osadciw
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From: JAMES MUNRO Number: 1610
To: ALL Date: 08/21/93 1:45p
Subj: Sony driver for OS2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi
Does any one know where I could get a driver for my SONY CDU535 series. To
enable me to run it with OS2 ver. 2.1.
Ihave to reboot dos all the time right now to run my CD.
thanks anyone who can help
jm
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From: JIM CLEMENTS Number: 1611
To: DAVID BURKE Date: 08/24/93 6:47a
Subj: THE *GOOD* OLD DAYS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> DB> I think there should be a HARDWARE ONLY CDROM echo
-> DB> SOFTWARE ONLY CDROM echo
DB> Sometimes I am looking for help on software, or for new and
DB>interesting CD titles, at other time I might need to know about,
DB>how to run several CD drive under DESQview or OS/2. I would even
DB>go one more and say an ADULT ONLY CDROM echo. I don't mind the traffic,
DB>but I don't have time to pick through 100s of messages to pick out the
DB>one on hardware or new titles etc.
DB> I understand at one time CDs were a neat new item few had, but they
DB>are getting as common as hard drives. Just a thought ;-)
Lordy, it's nice to see comments like this! I started reading
cdrom threads fairly early -- when 10 or 20 messages A WEEK
was a busy conference. Back then we were talking about getting
All About Cows, not because it was a good disc but because it
was *available* and there was darn little else out there under
$300.
I also remember one of my first stories about cdrom where a
major distributor was *predicting* drives under $500 and discs
under $100. People were going on about caddies -- buy one for
each disc because after all, you won't have that many discs.
Not at those prices.
And I was a lone voice saying: "Hey, when they start selling
in K-Mart....."
Haven't seen them in a K-Mart yet, but in lots of other
general merchandise department stores, so K-Mart can't be
too far away. And now, with well over 100 discs (many of them
well under $100 each) I'm glad I didn't have to buy caddies
for every of them.
And now people are wondering about the number of new conferences
that should be created because cdrom has grown so popular!
Now they want about as many conferences as there were messages
in the *old* days (3-4 years ago). That's great! And it is
going to get better. Cheers all!
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From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 1612
To: CHRIS ROBINSON Date: 08/24/93 2:19p
Subj: 16 bit sound card Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> quality is the same. I just want the flexibility of SCSI as Panasonic
-> is not the only double-speed drives around. There's plenty of
-> software
They may not be the only dual speed drives around but they are the
cheapest.
-> Trackblaster Pro, Pro Mixer,etc.). I don't think either of us are
-> going to be disappointed in any way thanks to MediaVision and
-> Creative Labs strong hold in sound.
->
-> Have fun and make noise ....... CR
Even the PAS16 is the same thing I've had a sound blaster before the
sb16 I've always stuck with creative labs maybe because their sound is
the real thing and not some other copy cat copying creative labs but in
a sense it helped lowered the sound cards quite a bit.
Louis
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From: JIM CLEMENTS Number: 1613
To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 3:31p
Subj: PIONEER CD-ROM HELP ??? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Two questions for Pioneer 600/604X users:
1. Is there any way to get the drive to play all audio discs in the
cartridge instead of just one, then having to go back to it to
program for the next?
2. What is the best way, when using Windows discs, to have five in
a cartridge and still have the drive know which tray to go to.
It seems now I have to keep putting the disc in the D: or top
tray.
As you can tell, I'm relatively new to Pioneer and any help would
be appreciated. Cheers
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From: MANESH RAMA Number: 1614
To: ALL Date: 08/23/93 11:40a
Subj: encyclopedia's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
hey, i wuz wondering if anyone can get me a cheap encylcopedia
cd for about under $50 or how bout a trade.
for somthing
thanx
later
im desperate i need one.
i kinda' gave mine away.
oh and how good is a groliers encylcopedia
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From: LON SEIDMAN Number: 1615
To: ROB PERELMAN Date: 08/24/93 12:08a
Subj: CD Rom Requirements Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Rob Perelman wrote
+-------------------------------+
XXXNow I plan to run OS/2 v2.1 on this system and I am thinking about a
XXXCD-Rom drive and maybe even a sound card. Now my question is, what kind
XXXof CD-Rom drive and adaptors do I need to get to be compatible with my
XXXIDE hard drive and OS/2? Please help me A.S.A.P. Thanks!
+-------------------------------+
I can't say exactly what Os/2 requires for CD drives. However, any good
drive will use a SCSI adaptor. None that I know of interface with an
IDE controller card. If you want to do anything related to multimedia
applications, a sound card is a must. I'd recomend getting the Pro
Audio Spectrum 16, which has its own on board SCSI adaptor. This will
save you a slot in your machine since both the sound board and SCSI
adaptor will be on the same card. For CD-ROM drives, the multispin
drives are a neccesity. I own the NEC CDR-84 which is fantastic. Texel
and Toshiba both make multispin drives which are equally good.
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From: KEN TULLY Number: 1616
To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 9:38a
Subj: Busty Ver. 1.0 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have a copy of Busty Babes Version 1.0 for sale to the Highest bidder. You
can call me Voice at 203-387-3174, Fax at 203-387-3306 or BBS at 203-387-3289.
Ken...
I forgot to mention.. This is an autographed copy with Lee and Blaines
signature. I have been offered $250. for it so far and will be selling soon,
so if anyone is interested let me know soon, or you will loose out..
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From: ELDON WAKEFIELD Number: 1617
To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 7:53p
Subj: CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Have a question for anyone I have 4 Sony 535 cd-drives on my BBS this past
week end some wierd stuff stated to happen can put a cd in one of the drives
the light comes on when it goes out it will eject the cd can take another on
and it works the one that didnt work woul work in another drive all was
working ok Thanks in Advance Eldon
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From: DIANA KIRKSEY Number: 1618
To: ERIC HSIAO Date: 08/24/93 8:45p
Subj: Re: 16 bit cards Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
EH>I've seen a PAS-16/Toshiba 3401B combo advertised for $599 --
EH>considerably cheaper than the numbers you started (>$1000).
EH>Then there's also the Fusion 16 Double Speed CD-ROM version for
EH>around the same price which has a NEC drive and a few CDs too.
EH> - Eric
They have the PAS-16/Toshiba combo with hook-up kit for $549.-- at CD-Rom
Direct.1-800-332-2404.
Diana
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From: DIANA KIRKSEY Number: 1619
To: SHAUN RADER Date: 08/24/93 8:45p
Subj: 7th guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SR>Yeah, I know what you mean.. but I would expect the S3 to do OKAY with
SR>The 7th Guest because it's in SVGA mode and so is Windows (I guess they
SR>are two COMPLETELY different video modes). I mean.. 2% is pretty sad!
SR>It's still better then the 1% I used to get with my Trident. I wonder
SR>if I had a SpeedStar 24x (which is what I originally wanted).. if I
SR>would get 100%.
Eeks! You only got 1% with your Trident Video Card?! I guess I'd better stop
complaining about getting 40% with my Trident 8900 Video Card.
Diana
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From: DIANA KIRKSEY Number: 1620
To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 8:45p
Subj: Cd-rom catalogs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello!
I have seen various message's offering free CD-Rom catalogs.Please send any
CD-Rom Catalogs to my following address:
Diana Kirksey
1624 Hwy.99 Sp#79
Manteca,CA. 95336
Thank You,
Diana
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From: SCOTT VANZANDT Number: 1621
To: LON SEIDMAN Date: 08/24/93 12:37p
Subj: NEC CD-Rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Be sure to check the speed of the drive, the Fusion 16 kits around here
still have 800+ms drives in them. I would stay away from those.
Scott
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From: BRUCE BERRY Number: 1622
To: VID KID Date: 08/25/93 6:35a
Subj: Mitsumi CD-Rom drives Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
VK> From what i heard there was a module available for the mitsumi
>that would enable you to connect a soundcard. But without that module it
>will not work with a soundcard. From all the information i have gathered ove
>the last few months about the mitsumi. The modules between $50-70. I have
>only seen one place that had it available. But cant seem to remember where.
> Try contacting mitsumi and they might be able to tell you where to get it.
I have a Mitsumi, it has a connector on the interface board to
connect to a sound board. All you need is the board and cable!
I haven't hooked a sound board up yet, but from the DOCS, that's
all you need!
■ QMPro 1.50 41-4879 ■ Dogs come when you call. Cats have answering machines.
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From: GLENN SANDERSE Number: 1623
To: KEITH HALL Date: 08/24/93 12:18a
Subj: Worm's vs. cd-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
W.O.R.M. CD drives conform to the Orange Book Part 2 compact disc
standard. A CD is 4.72". A Panasonic W.O.R.M. uses 5 1/4" discs and as
such is not compatible. CD Recordable drives are made by Sony, Philips,
Ricoh, JVC, Pinnacle and others. See the August issue of New Media
magazine for more information. If you're calling from Western Canada call
Glenn at Compact Data Inc. (403) 269-2353 (code 909).
___
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 1624
To: MICHEL ROMY Date: 08/22/93 8:22a
Subj: Panasonic 562b Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MR>Can anyone give me the spec. of the Panasonic 562B CD-Rom
MR>drive ? is it internal or external ? transfer rate, ...
MR>And if it is internal, does an external version exist ? price ?
It is internal drive, multisession and kodak Photo CD compatible.
CD-ROM Panasonic 562B 320ms w/contlr caddyless 300k/s 64kcache.$279.
MIDI cable for any sound card with Joystick port...............$19.
Price does not included shipping.
Call 310-602-2076 8AM-12PM, 6PM-9PM PST or mail order payable to: TRUC
16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723. Accept money order, COD $5extra
* OLX 2.1 TD * voice 310-602-2076.8am-12pm,6pm-9pm PST. Fax 310-402-7240
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From: NEIL BERGMAN Number: 1625
To: DONATO RABAGO Date: 08/24/93 10:51a
Subj: CDS? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I sell a complete line of adult CD-Roms and I can ship them to you
in Mexico. Leave me a message or send me your mailing address and
I'll send you a complete catalog. I have real cheap prices. Also,
my company manufactures several adult titles, so thay are really
inexpensive. Examples:
Visual Fantasies $19.85
Moving Fantasies $19.85
Things Change: My First Time (This is a 2-disc Full-Motion-Video
XXX-Rated) It's a movie for the computer and it runs FULL SCREEN.
$49.95.
Let me know if you are interested.
Thanks,
Neil Bergman
1206 S. Holt Ave. #1
Los Angeles, California
90035
Voice: 310 652-2858
Fax: 310 652-2608
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From: SHAUN RADER Number: 1626
To: DUANE ELLISON Date: 08/24/93 2:42p
Subj: Cd-rom bundles Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
<<***** DUANE ELLISON wrote this on 08-22─93 {May be edited} *****>>
─>My wife and I have recently been looking into purchasing a CD-Rom, Sou
─>Card, and software bundle such as the Fusion CD 16. I was curious wha
─>people think of these bundles and of the hardware included in the
─>bundles. Basically I would like to know the luck you have had in usin
─>your new CD-Rom. I would like to purchase one of the systems that is
─>around the $500 that includes a Sound Card, CD-Rom drive, and a good
─>selection of software.
─>
─>Thanks in advance for any information, anything would help!
─>
─>Oh, the main reason we were looking into the Fusion CD package was
─>because of the Compton Encyclopedia.
From what I've seen.. the bundles are definitely the way to go (I have
the CD-ROM upgrade kit from Creative Labs). You just buy one thing, you
know they are all compatible with each other, it comes with software,
and it's usually cheaper then if you bought them separately.
If you want the CD drive just for the Encyclopedia, I say go for it..
but if you want to use games, and you don't mind spending more money,
I'd look into the Fusion DoubleCD 16. I don't even know if this package
is out yet. It comes with PAS-16, a double speed CD-ROM drive,
speakers, Battle Chess Enhanced, Comptons Encyclopedia for Windows, The
7th Guest, and Arthur's Teacher Trouble (for kids).
-Shaun Rader-
-Madman@Liberty.Com-
08/24/93 09:20
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From: DAVID M. WHITE Number: 1627
To: LON SEIDMAN Date: 08/24/93 9:31a
Subj: NEC CD-Rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LS> If the included drive is an NEC multispin, then you
LS> shouldn't have any
LS> problems whatsoever. I've owned the NEC CDR-84 internal for
LS> over a year
Thanks for the information, I have since found out that the drive is an 800ms
drive which is not Kodak ready so have decided against it. Thanks for the
general info regarding NEC though, I will keep it in mind.
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From: DAVID M. WHITE Number: 1628
To: DUANE ELLISON Date: 08/24/93 9:43a
Subj: CD-ROM BUNDLES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DE> Card, and software bundle such as the Fusion CD 16. I was
DE> curious what
DE> people think of these bundles and of the hardware included
I was also looking at the Fusion 16 package, however I found out it is an
800ms drive that is not Kodak ready so have decided against it. If you have a
"Software Etc." store near you, they have that package priced at $399.
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From: ERIC HSIAO Number: 1629
To: JOHN ROBERTSON Date: 08/24/93 9:18p
Subj: Speedcache & disc caddies Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
The caddies I have is clear above the circular part of the disc and opaque on
the outer corners. The bottom of the caddy says Made in the USA, so it's not
some cheap Taiwanese copy...overall the caddy looks pretty well made, and I
don't think my CD-ROM drive will have any problems with them. The $10 price
for a caddy is totally unjustified... I still say go to a computer show and buy
them for $4-$5 each.
- Eric
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From: ALASTAIR EDGINGTON Number: 1630
To: ALL Date: 08/23/93 12:03a
Subj: OS/2 and SoundBlaster Pro 2.0 CD-ROM Drive Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hiya,
I've got OS/2 2.1, MultiMedia Program Manager with SoundBlaster Pro set up and
working fine, but i can't get the SoundBlaster CD-ROM working!!
I've tried inserting soundblaster's sbpcd.sys (or whateva it's called) in
os/2's config.sys. This works fine, and the CD is accessed and all is fine. I
just can't figure out where to get the cd-rom extensions driver from!! mscdex
won't work. it comes up with incorrect dos version.
If anyone has any ideas, i'd love to here them!!
Regards,
Alastair Edgington
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From: TONY STOTT Number: 1631
To: MARTIN TAYLOR Date: 08/24/93 8:07a
Subj: Buying From Australia Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 08-18-93, Martin Taylor elucidated to Terry Wood:
MT>Hi Terry.
MT>
MT>> Right, Well my name is Terry Wood and I'm from that little forgotten
MT>> country of Australia!! I have posted a few people about getting CDR
MT>> discs from the states but as of yet not 1 reply :-(....
MT>I wonder if this is normal business practice in the US or just this
MT>particular person's attitude.
MT>
MT>I was going to order CDs from him, but after working out the exchange
MT>rate and the cost of shipping, I have decided to give it a miss. Plus
MT>the person's attitude annoyed me somewhat.
MT>Anyway, I can give you the cattledog if you wish. You may have better
MT>luck than I.
Have faith, you were just unlucky! I have bought stacks of cd stuff from
US seller found through this echo, and been entirely happy. The vendors I
have dealt with include Ismail Arslingaray, Doug Carpenter, CD Rom Inc,
& Computers at Large (forgive me for those I left out!). I even bought my
drive mail-order (shipped to a friend in New York), and had not problems,
or rather, any problems were fixed cheerfully and rapidly.
My advice? Go for it.. these guys whose names you see all the time here
are good guys, and will do the right thing.
Mind you, if you need to get the vendor to send the goods direct to you,
many of the savings evaporate, so at least check some of the Oz vendors
too (their names appear in this echo as well)
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From: TONY STOTT Number: 1632
To: TIM HELTON Date: 08/24/93 8:07a
Subj: Re: New Echo - Multimedia Refer: NONE
Read: 08/27/93 8:28p Private: No
On 08-20-93, Tim Helton elucidated to David Harrison:
TH>-> There is an echo with the exact same name in SBCNET, and I was wond
TH>-> it is the exact same echo?
TH>
TH>It probably is if he creates echos the same way he creates CDs.
MEOW!! Claws well out there Tim? <g>
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From: ROBERT STEPHENS Number: 1633
To: LOONG CHUNG Date: 08/24/93 1:16p
Subj: Panasonic CDR-63 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LC>Could any one give me full details on the Panasonic CDR-563?
LC>e.g. Speed, transfer rate etc.
LC>And how much is it in Australia?
LC>Thanks
LC>Loong
Supposed to be 320ms access time, double transfer rate (300kb/sec),
supports photo-cd, XA, multisession recordings, and costs A$450 for the
AT-BUS version (through the SB interface).
-Robert
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From: STEPHEN WALSH Number: 1634
To: ALL Date: 08/22/93 8:21p
Subj: CDROM Drive wanted.. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
WANTED:
I URGENTLY require a NEC CDR-80 cdrom SCSI drive. Please E-Mail
me if you have one for sale or know of someone that does...
Stephen
Curl@csource.oz.au
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From: ASHLEY STRAHLE Number: 1635
To: ALL Date: 08/23/93 3:42p
Subj: Guinness Disc of Records Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have a query,
has anyone gone out and bought a copy of the Comptons 1992
Guinness Disc of Records (DOS version)? I have the "Special Edition", but I'd
like to here from people who have the full edition.
What is so special about the special edition is that I can't view the 256 color
GIF pictures that are on the disc... only the 16 color GIF pictures that are on
there. Anyway, what I'd like to know is whether the executable on the full
version is the same as the "special edition". The file specs are:
Executable: gdr.exe
Size : 454192 bytes
Date : 05-18-92
Time : 12:49p
Can anyone help me out in what I am looking for??? Thanks in advance...
Ashley Strahle.
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From: MARCUS LEE Number: 1636
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/23/93 5:55p
Subj: ATI + 7th Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I was thinking of purchasing an ATI Graphics Ultra Pro 2mb/EISA... and I
noticed you said you had probs playing 7th Guest and only 86% optimal on the
video...
Are the probs related to the ATI card?
And 86%.... I thought it would have to be 100% being such a great card...
Do you run the vesa drivers that came on the CDROM?
Regards.
PS: How much do you think is a good price for the ATI, I've got around $780
quoted...
Oh, and do you know ANY video cards that get 100%?
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From: ANDRE QUEREE Number: 1637
To: CHRIS ROBINSON Date: 08/23/93 11:57p
Subj: 16 bit cards Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Yves Desjardins to Chris Robinson <=-
YD> I just bought the Multimedia Pro16 II from Media Vision. The bundle
YD> contains the ProStudio16 sound card, NEC CDR84 (internal, multispin,
YD> multisession) plus 10 CD'S. I would recommand this sound card to
YD> anyone who wants to buy a 16 bits sound card. It is fully compatible
YD> with the sound blaster, the sound quality blows you away and it has a
But remember it's only compatible with the original Sound Blaster, not the
SB Pro or SB16 - that's another limiting factor for this sound card!
Catch ya' later!
Andre
... The first rule of intelligent tinkering is to save all the parts.
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From: RICHARD NIXON Number: 1638
To: TONY DAVIS Date: 08/20/93 12:18a
Subj: OIE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TD>That last count is the kicker. Since the DA has decided that the BBS
TD>itself was in violation of laws, there seems little doubt that the OIE BBS
TD>equipment will not be returned prior to a long drawn out legal fight.
Find a local attorney who will take the case Pro-Bono, it will cost you
more that what the computer is worth if you decide to hire an attorney.
TD>Although I have every intention of filing whatever civil suites are
TD>necessary to get the equipment returned, I truly believe there will not be
TD>a quick return of OIE.
Best of luck to you and please keep us posted.
* OLX 2.1 TD * Any body seen my tagline...?
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From: SAM JONES Number: 1639
To: DON KULHA Date: 08/25/93 12:48p
Subj: Pas16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DK> Get real Louis. I think the Panasonic double
DK> speed at it's price is a
DK> good deal but "the same features"? Not even close.
DK> You're comparing a 200
DK> millisecond drive to a 320ms, a 256k internal cache
DK> to 64k, SCSI to proprietary
DK> interface, a caddy drive to caddyless, forgetting
DK> the self cleaning optics,
DK> extra dust door, etc. The Panasonic is a consumer drive designed with
DK> compromises to make a price point versus a serious
DK> no compromise state of the
DK> art drive. They both have their place but the
DK> Panasonic doesn't stack up evenly
DK> with the Tosh by a long shot.
DK> DCK
Yeah your right about the Toshiba being a faster drive but the 562-b runs
all of my programs fast enough. And as far State-Of-The-Art goes that means
NOTHING right now as newer faster drives will be superior to the Toshiba within
a year, so why blow alot of $$$ now when the Panasonic
can provide more than adequate performance for under $250?
Sam
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From: KEITH DOMBROWSKI Number: 1640
To: ALL Date: 08/23/93 9:42p
Subj: Mitsumi CD-ROM Drivers. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
All,
After much ado, I recieved the following on C-Serve...
CompuServe Mail
Date: 19-Aug-93 14:06 EDT
From: Torsten Droste[totronik] [100064,1346]
Reply to: Mitsumi Driver
Hi Keith,
USA and Canada residents can order directly from our US distributor
MICROWARE TECHNOLOGY DISTRIBUTING, Inc.
51 Maplewood Avenue
Albany, NY 12205
USA
Phone: (518) 438-2512
(800) 382-2405
Fax: (518) 438-4002
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So, it appears there is an easier way to get the german drivers...
Keith
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From: ENRIQUE IGNARRA Number: 1641
To: JUAN VALENTE Date: 08/24/93 4:53a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM compatibility. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Juan Valente to All <=-
JV> This message was from CHRIS DEPAOLA to JUAN VALENTE,
JV> originally in conference GENRL_MAIL
JV> and was forwarded to you by JUAN VALENTE.
JV> -------------------------
JV> Nick, 'ol buddy, 'ol pal....HEEEEEEELLLLLLPPPPP!!!!!!
JV> It seems like I only call you when I'm in trouble. SO I am in trouble
JV> and I need help. I recently bought a CD-ROM drive that is supposedly
JV> compatible with my Soundblaster Pro card, but I can't get the computer
JV> to acknowledge the cd drive through the sound blaster. The cables are
JV> compatible and fit fine, but for some reason it doesn't work. The I/O
JV> address is 220 on the blaster but the cd-rom install program doesn't
JV> list that option for I/O addresses. The options are only 300 and
JV> higher on the cd-rom. AM I COMPATIBLE!!!!!! Please respond as soon as
JV> possible, I'm realyy desperate. This is my second cd-rom drive. I NEED
JV> COMPATIBILITY!!!!
JV> Chris
JV> * OLX 2.1 TD * Hick: Looks both ways before crossing a one-way street.
i don't know much about this but you might want to try to change the address
on the soundcard if you can.
... I'd rather ride the Wave than wallow in QWKsand!
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From: GEOFF MOEHLE Number: 1642
To: ALL Date: 08/23/93 4:33p
Subj: help! Refer: NONE
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Hey man write me a letter or something..im being ignored...where do i get fast
access time and a 300kb/second transfer rate?...but at a good price!!!!!!im
maybe interested in a Texel!! Well what do you...the people...think I should
get? any help would be valuable...please write me!!!
Geoff Moehle
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From: DAVE REED Number: 1643
To: DAVID YIELDING Date: 08/24/93 6:39p
Subj: Chinon/Adaptec Refer: NONE
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Hello David!
Saturday August 21 1993, David Yielding writes to All:
DY> Does anyone out there have a Chinon 435 on an Adaptec 1542b working?
DY> mine will "see" the drive but tells me the media is invalid.
I had the same problem, so I dumped the Chinon and bought a Toshiba. I tried
and tried to get the Chinon to work, and after MANY calls to their tech
support, they couldn't figure it out, either. ;-(
... "Imagination is more important than honesty" (Bill Clinton)
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 1644
To: JOSH PICHE Date: 08/24/93 6:59a
Subj: Police Quest 4 (CD-ROM) Refer: NONE
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-> I've heard that the CD rom version will be out around the same time a
-> disk version. Will the CD version include extra stuff, or is it just
Sierra's CD-ROMS are ALWAYS different from disk version! The president
of the company mentioned something about 'shovelware', that is disk
software 'shovled' onto a CD and calling it CD-ROM.
KQ6 for instance has an opening sequence about 7 times larger than the
disk based version. Also prfessional voices for the characters.
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From: NIRAV SHETH Number: 1645
To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 5:01p
Subj: FrEe CaTaLoG Refer: NONE
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Hey,
If anyone is interested, please call (205)351-0072 or write
Nirav Sheth
2802 McDonald Ct.
Decatur, AL 35603-8700
For a free catalog.... Good prices... Ex. MSBookshelf $60.... So on
All new merchandise, new company.... Thank you...
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From: JANUSZ SUROWKA Number: 1646
To: MARK WOMAK Date: 08/20/93 10:39a
Subj: Sound Blaster Pc Speaker Refer: NONE
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what that IS is a connection from you PC speaker to the SB.
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From: CRAIG SHEPPARD Number: 1647
To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 1:37a
Subj: Double Speed Cd-rom Refer: NONE
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SH@-}Everbody, I would like to know that whether that the speed of the
SH@-}CPU(386/486) will affect the performance of the CD-Rom. It is because I
SH@-}would like to purchase a CD-Rom but I don't know if one of my old 386
SH@-}can handle... Thank You!
Sunny,
Yes, your CPU will affect the CD-ROM. You failed to mention if
you had a DX or an SX. I have a 386DX/33 with 8MB of RAM, and my
Mitsumi drive works very smoothly; the animation in Wing
Commander 2 is very smooth, with only the most graphics-packed
screens have a millisecond pause. Nothing big, it's not even
annoying. Well, back to the issue...there is one aspect of a
CD-ROM that a processor upgrade would help tremendously, and
that is the time it takes to load things. I've noticed that,
even though animation is fine, a friend's 486DX-50 just blows
mine away in the time it takes to load something.
It's your decision. I'd say buy it from a reputable dealer, try
it out, and if it just doesn't suit your fancy, return it. It's
up to you...:)
Good luck,
Craig in South Jersey
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From: PAM TEMPLE Number: 1648
To: VINCE SORENSEN Date: 08/22/93 1:15p
Subj: Canadian Source Refer: NONE
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Vince Sorensen wrote in a message to Pam Temple:
VS> Yes, we sure do have a catalogue. If you want, you could
VS> leave your address here,
10,000 Sussex Drive, Rosedale, B.C. V0X 1X0
VS> looking forward to hearing from you - thanks for asking!
ThankYOU.
Cheers,
Pam
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From: ROY D'ARCANGELO Number: 1649
To: SAM JONES Date: 08/24/93 3:22p
Subj: Panasonic Benchmrk Refer: NONE
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Thanks Sam I will get it from there....
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From: MICHAEL GEGGUS Number: 1650
To: JOE SLIFER Date: 08/23/93 12:36p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Drives Vs Panasonic Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Joe Slifer to Michael Geggus <=-
MG> benches at 250ms @ 330Kbps using MegaDemo CDBench......Although I bought
MG> the SB Pro seperatly from the CD-ROM I paid $129 for the SB Pro w/STW
MG> encyclopedia for Win MPC, indy 500 and Lemmings (plus other goodies) and
JS> Could you supply that source for the SB Pro & bundeled software.
Computabiity in the Computer Shopper has it for $129US phone 1-800-554-9950
or (414)357-8181 if you can't use 800#s (like me, Japan). Fax (414)357-7814.
They only charged me $6 for shipping to an APO (mil post office) in Japan,
and it took 3 days to get it.
Mike...
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From: MICHAEL GEGGUS Number: 1651
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/23/93 6:33p
Subj: Re: Begining... Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Rowan Evans to Michael Geggus <=-
MG> CD ROM I/F and audio connector. MegaDemo Benched it at 250ms access
MG> and 330Kbps.
RE>
RE> That's interesting... it only spex at 300Kbps and 450ms in
RE> double-speed mode!
Different Machines/environments/benchmarks/references....My Mitsumi
book indicated a 350ms access and MegaDemos CDbench said it was 400ms
and 150kBps.....The real key was during operations, I noticed the
difference straight away.
RE> What command line parameters did you use for CDMKE41.SYS.... I
RE> couldn't get it to work so I changed to SBCD.SYS (and it works
RE> fine!).....
This is it.......
devicehigh /L:2,13440 =C:\CDMKE41.SYS /D:MVCD001 /R /SBP:220 /N:1 /A:
I only added the /A: from the read.me text on the driver disk, it's not
really necessary it should default to doublespeed. I've tried it high
and low, and both run great with same spex.
... The question is.....What's to become of the Mitsumi in the box?
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From: MICHAEL GEGGUS Number: 1652
To: SAM JONES Date: 08/23/93 12:55p
Subj: Re: 562-b Driver Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Sam Jones to Michael Geggus <=-
MG> the driver (my case CDMKE41.SYS) came with the CD-
SJ> Hello, I also have the Panasonic 562-b and the drive seems to be
SJ> very fast, except for one problem: In DOTT and kQ6 everything pauses
SJ> for a split-second whenever the drive is accessed (ex- to read the
SJ> speech data) then everthing is ok (no choppiness in speech or
SJ> graphics). The driver I am using is SBCD.SYS. I would like to try the
SJ> driver you are using, could you give me the # of a board that I could
SJ> download it from on a first-time call if possible? Thanks, Sam
Sam, the driver (CDMKE41.SYS) came with the drive and controller, purchased
from Wee Yung (TRUC) who usually frequents this echo. My only local BBSs
are here (sigh) in Japan, and I havn't seen it or SBCD.SYS or SBPCD.SYS here
Maybe Wee Yung could assist you there.
As for your delay what CPU are you using and how much memory do you have/
allocate to the CD-ROM. I use the standard set-up with CDMKE41.SYS (no
mention of raw buffers unlike the Mitsumi) and MSCDEX uses 20 EMS buffers.
Both drivers are loaded high (by Memmaker) on a doublespaced disk using
DOS 6.0 (Ok DOS 6 haters take your shots). I'm not experiencing delays
but I did with the mitsumi. The Mitsumi used DMA access (specified by the
driver) The 562B driver did not specify DMA access. I am assumming through
discussions here and throughout that on 486 machines (386 too I beleive)
that DMA access is actually slower (DMA controllers I should say) than
actually using CPU for access.....Food for thought...hope it helps?
Mike.....
... Swapped the LU005 for the 562B captain.........Warp 9 Mr. Scott...
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From: MICHAEL GEGGUS Number: 1653
To: MICHEL ROMY Date: 08/23/93 12:59p
Subj: Re: Panasonic 562b Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Michel Romy to All <=-
MR> Can anyone give me the spec. of the Panasonic 562B CD-Rom drive ? is
Book says 380ms at 300Kbps (mine was faster using MegaDemo CDbench) Caddyless
motorized tray, very nicely made. Some say you can get it for $249US
internal. I paid $279US for it with controller, although I didn't need the
controller as it plugs sraight into the SB Pro. Don't know of an external,
but post a msg to Wee Yung this echo and he'll certainly reply........
MIke....
... No problem is too big for High Explosives!
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From: GIAN BISATZ Number: 1654
To: MARTIN ROODENBURG Date: 08/21/93 1:55a
Subj: Mitsumi Refer: NONE
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Hello Martin
You write the MITSUMI Drive has a 16-Bit AT-Bus interface. Since i
intend to buy one of them, I'd like to know if it is possible to run
this drives with two AT-BUS hard-drives install.
Greetings from switzerland
Gian.
S QSZ portx %4 rz %3 /
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From: PHIL HORNBY Number: 1655
To: MARK WOMACK Date: 08/19/93 11:08p
Subj: Mistumi/sb/sbpro Refer: NONE
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Hi Mark,
On Wednesday August 11 1993, Mark Womack wrote to All:
MW> But while I was looking at the SBPro board, I noticed a plug that
MW> was identified as PC SPEAKER
MW> The manual has no explanation of what it's for.
See Page 18 and Appendix D of the "Getting Started" manual ... :-)
MW> It's 2
MW> prongs and my speaker wire won't match it because it's 4 prongs.
Only two wires are used to connect the speaker; you'll probably be able to see
which two; you'll need to make up a lead to go from the motherboard to the
SB/Pro. The polarity of the two connectors is important for it to work, but
doesn't seem to do any lasting damage if you get 'em the wrong way round ;-)
(Despite careful testing with my multimeter, I still managed to get them
back-to-front, at the first attempt)
MW> I wonder what output goes to the speaker - the sound output?
No, it's the other way round....the beeps that would have gone to the internal
speaker, get redirected to the SoundBlaster.
I don't know if my motherboard is unusual, but I had a wire a 3K3 resistor in
series with the speaker o/p, to reduce the volume a bit. Without it, the beeps
came out as {{{{{BEEPS}}}}}} :-)
Phil.
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From: JOOP STOKVIS Number: 1656
To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Date: 08/18/93 2:52p
Subj: So Much Shareware Iii Refer: NONE
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Hi Ismail!
Could you send me a catolog with all your CDroms?
My address is:
Joop Stokvis
C/o Stichting BBS Waterland
PObox 1196
1440 BD Purmerend
The Netherlands
Thanks in advance!
Groeten!
Joop
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From: JOOP STOKVIS Number: 1657
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/18/93 2:55p
Subj: Night Owls 9 Refer: NONE
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Hi Boris!
Could you send me a catalog? My address is:
Joop Stokvis
C/o Stichting BBS Waterland
PObox 1196
1440 BD Purmerend
The Netherlands
I'am intersted in players as well!
Thanks!
Groeten!
Joop
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From: JOOP STOKVIS Number: 1658
To: MICHAEL KONOR Date: 08/18/93 2:57p
Subj: Scsi Cdrom Refer: NONE
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Hi Michael!
> SCSI CDROMs For Sale:
>
> Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM External $200.00
> Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM Internal $180.00
Do you ship them to Europe as well? I'am interested in 2 external drives!
You could send me a fax to: xx31 2990 43030.
Groeten!
Joop
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From: JAN WILLEM RUYS Number: 1659
To: PADDY DRURY Date: 08/18/93 10:04p
Subj: Dinosaurs ? Which One ?? Refer: NONE
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> Me HAVE to have dinosaur cd
Media design interactive features a CD on Dinosaurs. I don't know the exact
price, but it is in the region of 120 $. Contact them on +44 252 737630, or
FAX
+44 252 710948.
Cheers,
_/an Willem
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From: JIM FREDERICK Number: 1660
To: ALL Date: 08/23/93 5:44p
Subj: 7th Guest... Refer: NONE
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I'm having problems with 7Th guest. I bought it when it first came
out, and played it through. I haven't tried to play it for a while. In
the meantime I upgraded from DOS 5 to DOS 6.... now it won't work at
all. Has anyone else had this problem? My settings in my config and
autoexec are the same, I have even more free memory. What's the
problem? I'm open to suggestions..... thanks. Jim.
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From: ROB MCINTYRE Number: 1661
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/24/93 7:02a
Subj: Cd Liquidation! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
What is the JEDI Collection ? Is it a Star Wars library ?
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 1662
To: ALL Date: 08/23/93 10:49p
Subj: Norton Speedcache Refer: NONE
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Hey everyone, please tell me what this Norton SpeedCache is, is this a
cache for the CD-ROM if so, does it come with Norton Utilities, or is it
a totaly different product and how much does it cost and does it work,
you see I have a 350 ms 150 kb/sec Mitsumi drive and though I am
perfectly satisfied by it sofar, I would like to speed it up, so please
tell me what this SpeedCache is about, thanx and C-ya
Ashwin
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From: JOHN CALLICRATE Number: 1663
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 08/23/93 11:24p
Subj: Ez-scsi Refer: NONE
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If you're interested, I have EZ-SCSI disk & manual (both are originals)
I'll let them go for $50.00 total, that includes I mail them to you.
If someone wants it, call me at 503/623-4924. I would only accept
payment of a money order.
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From: VID KID Number: 1664
To: MARTIN ROODENBURG Date: 08/23/93 3:47p
Subj: Mitsumi Cd-rom Drives Refer: NONE
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From what i heard there was a module available for the mitsumi
that would enable you to connect a soundcard. But without that module it
will not work with a soundcard. From all the information i have gathered over
the last few months about the mitsumi. The modules between $50-70. I have
only seen one place that had it available. But cant seem to remember where.
Try contacting mitsumi and they might be able to tell you where to get it.
Vidkid
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From: VID KID Number: 1665
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/23/93 3:50p
Subj: Cdrom Systems Refer: NONE
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Boris on the DRM 604X when you say bare. Do you mean without cables & software?
I have seen a few places offering the same but they include the cables and
software. What Scsi II controllers are available for that drive that come with
the drivers for it? Last of all what is the name of your company?
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1666
To: STEVE GERWECK Date: 08/24/93 12:01a
Subj: Best Cdrom Prices!! Refer: NONE
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SG> DC> * Busty Babes......29.95
SG> SG> Can you match Mike Shannon's offer of $29 PPD??
SG> BM> Oh, come on! For 95 cents, you have sysops all over the world carrying
SG> BM> a post showing your unwillingness to do your business on your own
SG> BM> dime? If a vendor does a good job, 95 cents is nothing. Give us all a
SG> BM> break and do your ordering in another manner.
SG>Give me a break! You forget the $4 or $5 for shipping.
Steve,
Why not just order it from us and save yourself the aggravation? We have
an 800 number, and we ship 2-day mail from within the U.S. Taking the
*other* route, an order from Canada could take anywhere from 3 days to 2
weeks, plus the shipping would probably be a little higher. Interested,
call 1-800-767-1284 and it will ship out the same day. $29 ppd. No
surcharge for plastic. No hassles.
Later,
.\\ike
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VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1667
To: PADDY DRURY Date: 08/24/93 12:01a
Subj: Tag Line ??? Refer: NONE
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PD> MS> * SLMR 2.1a * If it's British, it leaks.
PD>As a Brit I am not to impressed with the the tag line
PD>( UNLESS you are talking about our fine line in
PD>watering cans < grin >
No Paddy, it was directed more in the area of your fine British
autos, one of which I own. <g> Actually the ol' Lotus isn't too bad
for leaks, but I've seen some MG's and Jags that have created oil
slicks on par with the Exxon Valdez. 8) All part of the fun I guess.
PD>On another point what sort of a deal could you do me for sending over
PD>a bundle of CD's
PD>Say 5 copies of ten tiles for a test run
I can give you excellent prices in quantity. Call me sometime at
509-457-2892 and we can talk further! Have around 325 titles in stock
right now, so there are many titles to choose from in all categories.
Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1668
To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 12:01a
Subj: Cd-rom Liquidation! Refer: NONE
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STARVECTOR CD-ROM LIQUIDATION SPECIALS!
Q & A 4.0...........$34 Powerpak Gold 3.0...$15 House of Games......$20
Compton's Interact..$95 US Wars: Korea......$29 US Wars: Des. Storm.$29
Super CD 2..........$15 Super CD 1..........$14 Programmers Megapak.$29
Canadian Shareware..$19 MAC Shareware.......$22 Clipart Heaven......$19
5Star Prem. Windows.$27 Otherware I.........$17 Jedi Collection.....$39
History of Jazz.....$45 Hacker Chronicles...$24 Reel Clips..........$35
Kodak Photo CD......$18 Phoenix 3.0.........$12 Game Arena..........$10
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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* SLMR 2.1a * The magic of Windoze: Turning a 486 into an XT.
*** MMGR +Plus+ v3.00
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1669
To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 12:01a
Subj: New Cd's @ Starvector! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BRAND NEW CD ARRIVALS AT STARVECTOR!
Soundware Coll'ctn..$27 So Much Shareware 3.$28 QRZ Ham Radio.......$19
Hobbes OS/2 1993....$16 Hamware 1993........$28 Game Arena..........$13
Eagle Eye Shareware.$25 Up All Night........$17 Precision Mapping...$88
Fantazia Fonts/Snds.$29 Electronic Cookbook.$33 Learning Adventure..$13
M/M Computer Tutor..$24 Sound F/X Library...$19 Cookbook Heaven.....$27
Int'l Graphics Libr.$33 Musical Instruments.$57 The Holy Bible......$24
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1670
To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 12:01a
Subj: D/l Or Freq Our Catalog! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
***************************************************************************
FREQ OR DOWNLOAD STARVECTOR'S CURRENT CATALOG W/ 300+ CD-ROM TITLES!
***************************************************************************
To all CD users who would like to receive Starvector's catalog of the 300+
CD-ROM titles that we stock, you may either download our catalog file from
our BBS, or Freq (file request) it. (CD descriptions + prices included)
BBS: 509-457-0206 - Download STARCAT.ZIP from <F>ile menu. (1st call)
FREQ: 1:3407/101 - File request STARCAT.ZIP
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From: CARLOS BENITZ Number: 1671
To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 2:37a
Subj: Maximus & Downloading Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm having a bit of trouble when downloading a file from the disc at 1200bps
(that's what's in the notebook, I haven't watched other users yet so I don't
know about faster speeds).
Every 16K, *exactly*, Maximus reports "Unable to read drive F" (the rom).
When I'm running FrontDoor/Maximus alone, the file transmission stops at 16384
bytes, *WITHOUT ERROR* (although obviously the entire file isn't there).
Attempting to resume under Zmodem results in a new copy which terminates at
the
same place.
When I'm running FrontDoor/Maximus under a DV window (XDV actually, loading DV
high), at every 16K (exactly) there is an error visible at the sysop end, but
the drive apparently recovers and the DL continues. At the user end nothing
is
noticed to be wrong.
This happens only when DLing from the disc. DL from the harddrive works fine,
copying from the disc to the HD and DLing works fine too. The disc is intact,
the drive works fine, etc.
My CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT should be in the next message. Thanks for your
help.
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From: CARLOS BENITZ Number: 1672
To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 2:38a
Subj: Max & Dl, Supplemental Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Here is my CONFIG.SYS:
DEVICE=C:\QEMM386.SYS NOSH RAM
DEVICE=SSTORDRV.SYS /NOHIGH
DEVICE=D:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:3 C:\BOOT\NJRAMDXP.SYS /P90
LASTDRIVE=K
SHELL=C:\COMMAND.COM C:\ /E:256 /P
BUFFERS=1
FILES=40
FCBS=1
STACKS 0,0
DEVICE=C:\BOOT\MTMCDS.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:310 /A:0
REM DEVICE=C:\BOOT\MTMCDE.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:310 /A:0 /M:20 /I:10 /X
Here is my AUTOEXEC.BAT:
@echo off
d:\qemm\loadhi /r:1 d:\qemm\BUFFERS=30
d:\qemm\loadhi /r:2 c:\dos\share
rem d:\qemm\loadhi /r:3 c:\dos\doskey
d:\qemm\loadhi /r:1 c:\boot\ksmus20/1
rem c:\loadhi /r:2 c:\mscdex.exe /d:mscd001 /m:10 /v /e
d:\qemm\loadhi /r:2 d:\star\util\vmode monitor
d:\qemm\loadhi /r:2 d:\star\util\vmode vesa
c:\boot\mscdex.exe /d:mscd001 /m:10 /v /e
SET BLASTER=A220 I7 D1 T4
SET SOUND=D:\SBPRO
d:\sbpro\sbp-set /m:12 /voc:12 /cd:12 /fm:12 /line:12
PATH = c:\;C:\DOS;C:\BATCH;C:\FD;C:\UTIL;C:\ADDSTOR;C:\MAX;d:\pctools
prompt $p$g
set dv=d:\dv
set fd=c:\fd
set golded=c:\fd\ged
SET PCTOOLS=D:\PCTOOLS
set squish=c:\fd\squish
SET TEMP=e:\
c:
f.bat [F.BAT runs Front Door. XDV (DESQview) works better usually.]
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From: ALASTAIR EDGINGTON Number: 1673
To: ALL Date: 08/23/93 12:03a
Subj: Os/2 And Soundblaster Pro 2.0 Cd-rom Driv Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hiya,
I've got OS/2 2.1, MultiMedia Program Manager with SoundBlaster Pro set up and
working fine, but i can't get the SoundBlaster CD-ROM working!!
I've tried inserting soundblaster's sbpcd.sys (or whateva it's called) in
os/2's config.sys. This works fine, and the CD is accessed and all is fine.
I
just can't figure out where to get the cd-rom extensions driver from!! mscdex
won't work. it comes up with incorrect dos version.
If anyone has any ideas, i'd love to here them!!
Regards,
Alastair Edgington
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From: STEPHEN WALSH Number: 1674
To: ALL Date: 08/22/93 8:21p
Subj: Cdrom Drive Wanted.. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
WANTED:
I URGENTLY require a NEC CDR-80 cdrom SCSI drive. Please E-Mail
me if you have one for sale or know of someone that does...
Stephen
Curl@csource.oz.au
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From: MARCUS LEE Number: 1675
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/23/93 5:55p
Subj: Ati + 7th Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I was thinking of purchasing an ATI Graphics Ultra Pro 2mb/EISA... and I
noticed you said you had probs playing 7th Guest and only 86% optimal on the
video...
Are the probs related to the ATI card?
And 86%.... I thought it would have to be 100% being such a great card...
Do you run the vesa drivers that came on the CDROM?
Regards.
PS: How much do you think is a good price for the ATI, I've got around $780
quoted...
Oh, and do you know ANY video cards that get 100%?
*** Maximus 2.01wb
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From: MARLIN ROWLEY Number: 1676
To: STEPHEN KOVACSISS Date: 08/24/93 2:24p
Subj: EXPLAIN SOUND CARDS TO ME Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I found this information in the PC Magazine article concerning Sound
cards and they stated that the Ultra Gravis Sound card can "record at
16-bit 44khz, and 12-bit playback at 32khz." Whether this is true or
not, I don't know. I'm not trying to start a sound war here, so if I'm
wrong then I'm wrong.
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 1677
To: SHAUN RADER Date: 08/25/93 8:34a
Subj: Re: 7th guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Shaun Rader to Graham Murphy <=-
SR> <<***** GRAHAM MURPHY wrote this on 08-17─93 {May be edited} *****>>
─>Thats about all it does work well with. S3's are no good for anything
─>other than windows - < remainder of text deleted>
SR> Yeah, I know what you mean.. but I would expect the S3 to do OKAY with
SR> The 7th Guest because it's in SVGA mode and so is Windows (I guess
SR> they are two COMPLETELY different video modes). I mean.. 2% is pretty
SR> sad! It's still better then the 1% I used to get with my Trident. I
SR> wonder if I had a SpeedStar 24x (which is what I originally wanted)..
SR> if I would get 100%.
Without trying to start a "my video chip is better than your video chip"
war, especially in a CD-ROM echo, I would say that those interested in
optimizing their video performance, for interactive CDs or otherwise,
would be well-advised to call up Steve Gibson's BBS (the columnist
for Info World and others) and download his video board test results.
They are a bit surprising and somewhat contradictory to much of what is
in the trades (especially the ads) regarding various video technologies,
including the "accelerators". Those who like to trash the S3 chips for
DOS apps just might get their attitudes adjusted a bit.
... File not found. Should I fake it? (Y/N)
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 1678
To: TIM HELTON Date: 08/25/93 8:43a
Subj: Re: Files.bbs Refer: NONE
Read: 08/27/93 8:28p Private: No
-=> Quoting Tim Helton to Brian Hipps <=-
TH> FILES.BBS is the most abused word in this business.... Long ago,
TH> QuickBBS referred to their file listings as "FILES.BBS". This format
TH> contained the file name, beginning on column #1, and a 45 byte file
TH> description beginning on column #14. That's a FILES.BBS description
TH> file.
Thanks, Tim. I'm not a sysop so I'm not terribly interested in such
items - BUT - from now on in my reviews, I'll try to be more robust in
my descriptions of such files as I find them on CDs. Previously, I've
just used the name I found on the CD. I think I'll start describing the
contents (e.g. what stuff starts in what column, etc.) so sysops can
understand what to expect.
I enjoyed the brief trip through FILES.BBS land.
... I call things as I see them; If I didn't see them, I make them up!
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From: DAVID SNIDER Number: 1679
To: RICK COOKE Date: 08/24/93 12:18p
Subj: Virtual Sex Disk Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
*** Quoting Rick Cooke to All dated 08-15-93 ***
> I saw a show on HBO featuring a CDROM that was a Virtual Reality
> Xrated disk. Anyone heard of this, and know where it is available?
>
> Rick Cooke
>
Yeah, I heard of "Virtual-Valerie" X-rated CD-ROM on Real Sex 6 on HBO myself.
And I REALLY want to know where it is myself.
David Snider
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From: DAVID SNIDER Number: 1680
To: LOUIS GHINIS Date: 08/24/93 12:31p
Subj: sound blaster 16 vs 16ASP Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
*** Quoting Louis Ghinis to All dated 08-15-93 ***
> Louis
> *!* FidoPCB v1.4 beta
> * Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15)
>
>
*** Quoting Louis Ghinis to All dated 08-15-93 ***
> *@SUBJECT:sound blaster 16 vs 16ASP? N
I'll tell you Louis (I hope I spelled that right) the difference between
the SB16 and the SB16 ASP is that the asp has a Advanced Signal Processor
or a DSP for signal processing and compressing/decompressing.
And that means that you can change the waveform and it will take 65% of the
load off the host CPU.
And here's the kicker you can get a hold of a daughterboard called the
WaveBlaster that can simulate General-midi and the Roland MT-32 and it's
compatable with ANYTHING that can use GMIDI or Roland and now you don't
have to pay a fortune for some good midi equipment, it retails for $250 more
or less, and from what i hear it sounds DAMN good.
David Snider
p.s
I hope this information helps you,and if it does let me know, O.K.?
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From: DAVID SNIDER Number: 1681
To: ZORAN ANANIJEV Date: 08/25/93 2:12a
Subj: SB16ASP+WBLASTER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
No,the TG-16 is not compatable but the Turbo Duo system is retailing for
$299.99 with ALOT of games.
And I'm glad I could help.
David Snider
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From: DAVID SNIDER Number: 1682
To: STEVEN CALLAND Date: 08/25/93 2:15a
Subj: Turbo Grafx CD-ROM?? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
No,the TG-16 is not compatable but the Turbo Duo system is retailing for
$299.99 with ALOT of games.
And I'm glad I could help.
David Snider
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From: EDWARD PALMER Number: 1683
To: STEVE MCKAIN Date: 08/24/93 8:15p
Subj: NEC CDR-25 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
You're welcome, Steve. By the way, I noticed another reply to you from
Eric Ho. He said that the drive couldn't be daisy-chained because it only
had one connector. In case you're not familiar with SCSI, he's only half
right. The drive does have only one connector, but you can still
daisy-chain it if you make it the last drive on the chain.
Ed
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From: MAHMUT KURSUN Number: 1684
To: ALL Date: 08/23/93 8:17p
Subj: Nightowl 9 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello,
it seems that nightowl makers just take files from every available source
and press them without certifiying into a CDROM. As long as I remember,
every Nightowl has a slight irregularity. The 6.0 (my first CDROM) has
a copyrighted Game from Apogee, the 8.0 has a hack of a copyrighted freeware
graphicsprogram, the Raytracer POV, but it is tolerated by the POV Group and
on the new 9.0, I found in Section 23 Games/Recreation a file with the titel
GIG.ZIP; GIG.ZIP [0] Arcade Style Game Not Bad. ).
Which contains the Filelist of a Adult BBS in Hawaii
GIG LST 289165 02-05-93 12:04a
GIG-JPG LST 312971 02-02-93 3:00p
If you master a CDROM, check it out closer. Next mail is a What-to-do-list
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From: MAHMUT KURSUN Number: 1685
To: ALL Date: 08/23/93 10:00p
Subj: Pressing CDROM, what-to-do Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
If you master a CDROM, check it out closer.
Here is a list what to do:
-Dont put Wolfenstein 3D on your CDROM (forbidden in Germany)
-Just zip the files, if you use just one packer, it is easier for the
user. You favorite Phil Katz's PKZIP Program but it is the most used
packer in the PC-World. Dont put the original PKZIP in the root of the CDROM,
take the PKUNZIP Code (I think free code to unzip *.ZIP packets exist
somewhere) and make your own UNZIP program. Use PKZIP 1.1 Format, this
is the easiest way and the new PKZIP 2.0 is a screamer when it comes to
unzip the 1.1 format. You can save 5-10% with PKZIP 2.0 but on 640 MB, there
is no need to save place.
-put banners out of Zipped packets
-If you convert different packer formats to zip and slip the banners, you
get trouble with some archives that have a security envelope. I think
it should be overridden, except in the Virus protection area.
-check all Files with shez or a similar Archive Utility. With shez, you
see if the file consistance is 100% and you also see if the File is
OS/2 or unix with extended Filenames, extended Paths or "/" slash instead
of "\" backslash in the paths. You also can simply exclude BBS Ads or
Ads of Shareware selling companies.
-Dont compilate a new CDROM from other CDROMs
-Dont take a CDROM for Source for a new CDROM
-Dont reprint a CDROM under a new name, or dont call it V X+1 if it is
same or only slight changed
-Dont blow up 640x480 GIFS to 1024x768 Gifs with rescale option of some
graphicprograms. The picture Quality could not be improved with rescaling.
-If you use the Word GIF, mention that it is Trademark of Compuserve
-Think about the CDROM if you want to make it MPC, for example, I have
a MPC CDROM, which has the original Microsoft Mousedriver and the original
Tseng4000 VESA driver, the files are just renamed. And this MPC CDROM
only work if you have a Original Soundblaster Card and a Tseng4000 Card.
This will lead to lots of trouble on other systems.
A better example is a new MPC CDrom, which uses Sound and displays the
Pictures with 320x480 which is a crippled IBM VGA 320x200 and should work
on most Graphiccards without any driver.
-Dont print confusing prices on CDROMs. I saw people that print 169$ to
a CDROM and on the Market the CDROM goes by the price of 30 $.
-something weird: Make it full, that means 640 Meg or die!
-If you print the filesize on the CDROM or in the documents, calculate
it this way: 100000000= 100 Million bytes not equal 100 MB (Megabytes)
this is 95.3 MB because 1 MB is 1024 Kbytes and 1 Kbyte is 1024 Bytes
special for sysops:
-use less folders, some Sysops have BBS Software that only support
200 Fileareas. 50 Areas on Harddisc and 3 CDROM with each 50 Areas
and the System is dunn. With 12 CDROM each 10 Folders, it is no
Problem for a Sysop to add more CDROM to the BBS.
-use this Quickbbs FILES.BBS format:
XXXXXXXX.EXT Description
^14th column
-use this TBBS FILES.DIR format:
; Banner
FILENAME.EXT FILENAME.EXT Description
-also make a FAR File, which is used on some BBS Systems
Here is a example FAR File that I use with TBBS and Shareware Studio 1
d:\ANSI\files.bbs ANSI
d:\BASIC\files.bbs BASIC
d:\BATCH\files.bbs Batch
d:\BBS\files.bbs BBS-Systems
d:\BBSLIST\files.bbs BBS Lists
...
-also try to make some alternate FILES.BBS Files:
FILENAME.EXT Size Date Description
FILENAME.EXT Size Description
You can put all this different FILES.BBS Files on the CDROM, like:
FILES.BBS, FILES.DIR, (I dont know Remote Access Files Format, I think
it should be FILES.RA and similar to QBBS Format), FILES.001, GIFS.BBS
UTILS.BBS, GIFS.LST, UTILS.LST ...
-Make a FILES.BBS. Aint no matter if you dont have BBS Experience. With
a FILES.BBS Filedescription you give the User short and usefull information
about the FILES in each subdirectory.
-If you make a interface that shows and extracts Zipfiles off the CDROM,
make this utility autodetect the screensize. Most Programs that I know
are limited to 25 Line Screens. I prefer 50 Lines when it comes to
textscreens.
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From: MARTIN ROODENBURG Number: 1686
To: GIAN BISATZ Date: 08/26/93 11:42p
Subj: Mitsumi Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Gian,
> You write the MITSUMI Drive has a 16-Bit AT-Bus interface. Since i
> intend to buy one of them, I'd like to know if it is possible to run
> this drives with two AT-BUS hard-drives install.
The 16-Bit AT-Bus interface is really not the same thing as your
IDE-AT-Bus interface altough the names might be confusing.
In fact the two adapter-types are using different IO-adresses and
won't interfere with eachother.
On the controller that comes with the Mitsumi drive are quit a lot
of selectrable adresses, interrupts and DMA-channels. There's so
much choice It (almost) can't go wrong (unless you want to install
five or more of these controllers...).
Greetings from The Netherlands,
Martin.
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From: MARTIN ROODENBURG Number: 1687
To: JUAN VALENTE Date: 08/27/93 12:00a
Subj: CD-ROM compatibility. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Juan,
JV> Nick, 'ol buddy, 'ol pal....HEEEEEEELLLLLLPPPPP!!!!!!
JV> It seems like I only call you when I'm in trouble. SO I am in trouble
JV> and I need help. I recently bought a CD-ROM drive that is supposedly
JV> compatible with my Soundblaster Pro card, but I can't get the computer
JV> to acknowledge the cd drive through the sound blaster. The cables are
JV> compatible and fit fine, but for some reason it doesn't work. The I/O
JV> address is 220 on the blaster but the cd-rom install program doesn't
JV> list that option for I/O addresses. The options are only 300 and
JV> higher on the cd-rom. AM I COMPATIBLE!!!!!! Please respond as soon as
JV> possible, I'm realyy desperate. This is my second cd-rom drive. I NEED
JV> COMPATIBILITY!!!!
JV> Chris
The 220-address your friend is talking about is usually the address
used for the soundblaster-card itself, not for the CD-ROM-Drive.
I don't have a REAL soundblaster myself (just a good working 16-bits
SB Pro clone ) but as far as I know, the soundblaster uses the
300-address, optionally the 320-address.
But now some questions:
What type of CD-ROM-drive does your friend have ?
Is he using some kind of install-program that came with the SB ?
I'm told a Panasonic ???-drive could be connected without problems.
A Mitsumi won't work without some cable-tricks on a SB Pro.
Bye,
Martin.
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From: SAM BROWN Number: 1688
To: DON SPROUL Date: 08/24/93 10:26p
Subj: Re: Gravis Ultrasound Card and CD-Rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Select a dma channel that doesn't conflict with the GUS.
You may be using dma 1 now, switch to 5, or in windows if it is choppy
set the dma to 1 (8 bit) strangely enough it seems to fix the problem.
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From: LAURENCE ALLEN Number: 1689
To: ROB PERELMAN Date: 08/24/93 3:47p
Subj: Cd Rom requirements Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> 486 DX-33
> 130 MEG IDE HD
> Both Floppies
> 4 MB Ram
> SVGA Monitor and card
>
> Now I plan to run OS/2 v2.1 on this system and I am thinking about a
> CD-Rom drive and maybe even a sound card. Now my question is, what
> kind
> of CD-Rom drive and adaptors do I need to get to be compatible with my
> IDE hard drive and OS/2? Please help me A.S.A.P. Thanks!
>
Try the Texel CD Rom Drive and a Trantor T130 SCSI-2 Controler card.
The Sound Blaster also works great.
* KWQ/2 1.2 * NP> * KWQ/2 1.2 * Boost OS/2 2.1 sales - release Windows NT
--- MsgToss 2.0d(beta) 02/21/93
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From: JERRY MURPHY Number: 1690
To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 11:08a
Subj: Cd rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Here is the READ.ME I sent just today to McAfee Associates as part of an
archive with a file from PIER2. I forward it to you FWIW:
---------------------------------
8/24/93
This IDEDIAGP.ZIP archive comes from the PIER2 CD-ROM.
SCN107BT finds Over4032 [O-4032] virus in the EXE file.
It's strange to me that, first of all, [O-4032] is NOT listed in VIRLIST.TXT,
nor in any other reference I have, and also strange that SCN107BT found this
same virus in a different sample sent last week (in VIPER.EXE). [Viper.exe was
found on PC World *.* subscription disk, #5]
Also strange is the fact that BOTH samples are accompanied by Turbo PAScal
source code! Is this an infection in a TP compiler? Is it an anomoly of TP or
SCN107BT? Inquiring minds ...
If there *is* such a virus, it's been a busy boy; showing up in two places in
MY home is most unlikely. One came in on a commercial floppy, and now one on a
CD-ROM!
I'd very much appreciate a phone call, verifying or debunking the implied
threat of this virus. I've no idea what it might do, and I won't execute it.
The people who produce the PIER2 CD-ROM need to hear about it, too. (I'm not
convinced it isn't a false alarm from SCN107BT.)
Thanks in advance for your expected reply.
Jerry Murphy
(I also sent them my address/phone)
----------------------------------
In the unlikely event I hear from McAfee any time soon, I'll let you all know
what they say. Meanwhile, a prudent person would be very careful. Practice
safe HEX!
the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio
* DeLuxe2 1.21 #8814 * Nature almost always sides with the hidden flaw.
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From: JERRY MURPHY Number: 1691
To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 11:20p
Subj: Over4032 [o-4032] virus Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
McAfee Associates has confirmed by phone call just moments ago that the file I
thought infected by this virus, which was found on the PIER2 CD-ROM, is
actually a FALSE ALARM, related to the Turbo Pascal library functions. SCAN107
BETA will be repaired, and the final version will NOT give this same false
alarm again. To confirm, the file IDEDIAGP.ZIP on PIER2, and the file
VIPER.EXE on PC World's *.* #5, are both clean of viruses.
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From: JAMES ZMIJEWSKI Number: 1692
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/25/93 12:00a
Subj: Avi file Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm still loking for a disk with avi files on it. If it was wav files
or gif pictures their would be no problem, is avi just the new thing out or is
thier some problem making them.
I was also wondering if you knew anyone who sells IDE Drives (Western
Digital)
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* Origin: Nerd's Nook (216)-356-1431 - HST (1:157/3)
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From: LUIZ MEYER Number: 1693
To: CHRISTIAN GRIMM Date: 08/23/93 6:48p
Subj: scsi cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Christian Grimm to Michael Konor <=-
CG> * Em mensagem para All, Michael Konor disse:
MK > SCSI CDROMs For Sale:
MK > Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM External $200.00
MK > Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM Internal $180.00
MK > Works great on MS-DOS, OS/2, Amiga, and Mac. Features 50
MK > Pin True SCSI,
MK > 300ms access, 156k transfer, newest EPROMs installed, and
MK > 64k Buffer.
MK > Service Center Refurbished. MPC Compliant. Warranty
MK > 205-837-5053 anytime.
CG> De que cidade você é?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You really don't think he'll understand what you're saying, do you?
See ya!
Luiz Meyer
... Danger, Christian Grimm! Off-topic messages! Danger!
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From: SHADOW SMITH Number: 1694
To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 11:23p
Subj: CDROMNET Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MHS Addr: CDROMNET
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* Origin: Paradigm BBS (10 Lines) * Hampton, VA * 804-838-3644 (1:271/175)
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From: STEVE MCKAIN Number: 1695
To: MICHAEL KONOR Date: 08/25/93 8:24a
Subj: RE: SCSI CDROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MK>>MK>Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM External $200.00
MK>>
MK>>Is this drive daisy chain able???
MK>Yes! The external case has two 50 pin centronics which can be used for
MK>daisy chaining drives.
Could you provide me with more information such as access time, transfer
rates, reliability???
Steve
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* QMPro 1.50 41-4928 * UFO's are real, the Air Force doesn't exist.
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* Origin: The Orient Express - An Elite BBS for Adults - (1:372/6969)
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From: STEVE MCKAIN Number: 1696
To: MICHAEL KONOR Date: 08/25/93 8:31a
Subj: SCSI CDROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MK>SCSI CDROMs For Sale:
MK>Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM External $200.00
MK>Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM Internal $180.00
MK>Works great on MS-DOS, OS/2, Amiga, and Mac. Features 50 Pin True SCSI,
MK>300ms access, 156k transfer, newest EPROMs installed, and 64k Buffer.
MK>Service Center Refurbished. MPC Compliant. Warranty
MK>205-837-5053 anytime.
Does this come with controller card and cables another words would it be
ready to plug and play when it arrived???
Steve
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* QMPro 1.50 41-4928 * Hard Work never killed anyone, but why chance it?
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* Origin: The Orient Express - An Elite BBS for Adults - (1:372/6969)
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From: CHARLES HART Number: 1697
To: MICHAEL HAJOVSKY Date: 08/23/93 9:10p
Subj: Re: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MH> Hear, Hear. I am all for it. If you disagree with the prohibition of
MH> free speech just leave the country, or be removed from the society.
MH> Now, since we have democrats in the White House the rule should apply
MH> against republicans subversive speech, as well as against the free CD
MH> discussion subversives in the CD_Echo.
As has been made very clear to me, an Echo is _not_ a democracy. A well
regulated dictatorship is a much better description. No one is forcing you to
stay where you do not want to be, so if you don't like the rules, *leave*.
That's what the ancestors of most living Americans did when the result was a
bit more drastic that the result that will come from leaving an Echo.
But, that's you total and only recourse - the moderator "owns" the Echo and
does exactly what he want when he wants - and if he fails to please the bulk of
the members they will stop comming[[[[[[[.[D [Dcoming, so I suspect the good
moderator of this Echo is responding to member comments.
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* Origin: Terrapin Station BBS * (904)939-8027 * USR DS * (1:366/105)
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1698
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 08/24/93 11:24p
Subj: PRECISION MAPPING Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JL>Hi Mike. Can you give me a little help with using Precision Mapping? I
JL>am having a little trouble figuring out how to get down to city level.
Which version do you have? The new version 1.5b has much improved
city search and zooming features, plus an addendum to the manual, which
explains a lot more. If you have version 1.2, you might consider
sending it to S&S for an upgrade.
Later,
.\\ike
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* SLMR 2.1a * Used taglines for $ale - 8 bits each. Call 555-FUNY
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1699
To: MARK PALMER Date: 08/24/93 11:24p
Subj: encyclopedias et al Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MP> MS> We have the Grolier's Illustrated version 2.0 at $35. The MPC version
MP> MS> is $48. Call any time if interested.
MP>What would shipping to the UK cost????
$5 by Small Packet Airmail (no insurance), or $11 for insured Airmail.
Feel free to call or fax any time if you need more assistance.
Later,
.\\ike
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
---
* SLMR 2.1a * My computer's down. Can someone send it flowers?
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1700
To: JOE PATTERSON Date: 08/24/93 11:24p
Subj: CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JP>Hi Mike, ya got a magic name for the catalog? If not whats the file name?
JP> Thanks....... Jp :{)
Joe,
If you're referring to our catalog file, it is named "STARCAT.ZIP". You
can either d/l it from our board at 509-457-0206, or freq it from
1:3407/101.
Hope that helps.
Bye,
.\\ike
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* SLMR 2.1a * If it's British, it leaks.
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1701
To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 11:25p
Subj: NIGHT OWL 9 SPECIALS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
ATTENTION NIGHT OWL USERS! IT'S HERE! IT'S SHIPPING! IT'S HOT!
AND IT'S 680+MB OF PURE 93 SHAREWARE!
N I G H T O W L
+--------+ | | +=======+
| $29.00 | ====|===|==== || ||
+--------+ | | || ||
====|===|==== +=======|
* SPECIAL - NIGHT OWL 8 + 9 . . . $49 | | ||
7 + 8 + 9 . . . $69 ||
Pier 2 + Night Owl 9 . . . $59 ||
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs * 509-457-2966 (FAX)
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* SLMR 2.1a * ... He who hesitates is frost. - Eskimo proverb
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 1702
To: ERIC HO Date: 08/25/93 10:36a
Subj: Dr. Cd-rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Eric -
=>In reference to Dr. Windows, Dr. Music, and Dr. Shareware:
I would be interested in handling all three of your discs, but would
need a dealer pricing first.
Could you send a list to 1:202/1705 V.32 from 10:pm to 7:am PST.
Thank you,
Adrian Salas
* QMPro 1.50 41-2384 * If truth is stranger than fiction, you must be truth!
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From: BRIAN ELFERT Number: 1703
To: MICHAEL KONOR Date: 08/25/93 6:01a
Subj: scsi cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM External $200.00
Do you have SIX of these? Do they handle 650 meg CD-ROMS?
Brian
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From: CRAIG JACKSON Number: 1704
To: NICHOLAS GOLDWYN Date: 08/25/93 6:13a
Subj: RE: MITSUMI DRIVES?? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NG>I paid Pds 149 + VAT for my Mitsumi which
NG>included Photo Access software.
What are the specs for your PhotoCD capable Mitsumi drive? I recently
obtained a Mitsumi drive and wanted to insure PhotoCD capability (neither the
manual, nor the dealer, would say).
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From: SCOTT VANZANDT Number: 1705
To: N Date: 08/26/93 1:01a
Subj: ccc Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
n
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From: DAVID BURKE Number: 1706
To: JIM CLEMENTS Date: 08/25/93 10:58p
Subj: THE *GOOD* OLD DAYS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
->> DB> I think there should be a HARDWARE ONLY CDROM echo
->> DB> SOFTWARE ONLY CDROM echo
->
-> DB> I understand at one time CDs were a neat new item few had, but
-> DB> they are getting as common as hard drives. Just a thought ;-)
->
-> Lordy, it's nice to see comments like this! I started reading
-> cdrom threads fairly early -- when 10 or 20 messages A WEEK
-> was a busy conference.
->
-> * Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario
^^^
I have gotten back a lot of messages that it is a good idea, Thanks
for yours. By the way... I worte a program called CRS (well the
installation creats that directory and CRS starts the program) or
"Cattle Registry System" that would not be what the CRS stands for
hummmm guess not, just thought it interesting.
-=- Dave
PS: There are 1000s of CDROM DISC out there now... as little as $4.
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From: JACK YONG Number: 1707
To: ALL Date: 08/25/93 7:56p
Subj: CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi there, I'm opening a BBS and thought a CD-ROM would be a nice offer to
users, do you guys have any offers for me, or maybe some offers?
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* Origin: The Corner Store (604)464-0231 -14.4K- (1:153/255)
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From: SHAUN RADER Number: 1708
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 08/25/93 2:32p
Subj: Norton speedcache Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
<<***** ASHWIN BIHARI wrote this on 08-23─93 {May be edited} *****>>
─>Hey everyone, please tell me what this Norton SpeedCache is, is this a
─>cache for the CD-ROM if so, does it come with Norton Utilities, or is
─>a totaly different product and how much does it cost and does it work,
─>you see I have a 350 ms 150 kb/sec Mitsumi drive and though I am
─>perfectly satisfied by it sofar, I would like to speed it up, so pleas
─>tell me what this SpeedCache is about, thanx and C-ya
─> Ashwin
Norton SpeedCache is a cache system, it uses memory to speed up access
to and from the hard drive and other drives. Norton SpeedCache comes
with Norton Utilities, there is also a Norton SpeedCache+ that claims to
"Rev-up your CD-ROM drive by more than 3000%!" that doesn't come with
Norton Utilities.
I don't know if this is true, but it sure sounds good! I know that the
regular SpeedCache speeds up Windows by a lot! I can get into Windows
in about 10 or 20 seconds faster then without the cache. I don't know
how much it costs, but SpeedCache+ is over $60 (without Norton
Utilities).
-Shaun Rader-
-Madman@Liberty.Com-
08/25/93 13:13
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* CmpQwk 1.13 #141 * HELP, I'm being held prisoner by this BBS.
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From: TONY HALL Number: 1709
To: BOB JENKINS Date: 08/24/93 6:59p
Subj: MITSUMI QUESTION Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BJ> Being financially challenged, yet feverishly lusting over a CD-ROM
BJ>my own, I have noticed the name "Mitsumi" (sp?). A few questions:
BJ>
BJ> 1)Will this drive function with my SB 2.0 ?
BJ> 2)How much will it put me out (I'm up here in the Great White North
BJ>Ottawa) ?
BJ> 3)If I decided to purchase one via a U.S. mail order complny, has a
BJ>from Canada doen this, and how did things go ?
BJ>
BJ> Thanks for the reply.
BJ>
BJ>--- GEcho 1.00
BJ> * Origin: Lester's Hideaway, Smiths Falls, ON (1:256/202@FIDONET.ORG)
You can get, just as good a price from, most stores in Toronto.
If you want I will give you the names and address of some of them.
See Ya,
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* WinQwk 2.0 #0 * Unregistered Evaluation Copy
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From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 1710
To: DON KULHA Date: 08/25/93 1:08p
Subj: PAS16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Get real Louis. I think the Panasonic double speed at it's price
-> is a
-> good deal but "the same features"? Not even close. You're comparing a
-> 200 millisecond drive to a 320ms, a 256k internal cache to 64k, SCSI
-> to proprietary
200ms to 320ms is only 33% better improvement which doesn't mean
hardly as much if itwere 40ms it would be a big different. 256k cache
internal? Well even 256k cache isn't enough 2 meg cache is the best to
have a software cache is proven to be just as good as a software cache
like norton or pckwik
-> interface, a caddy drive to caddyless, forgetting the self cleaning
-> optics,
I like it cadyless saves me $5 each cd that I don't have to buy a
caddy for.
-> interface, a caddy drive to caddyless, forgetting the self cleaning
-> optics,
Could always buy a cleaning kit for it.
-> millisecond drive to a 320ms, a 256k internal cache to 64k, SCSI to
-> proprietary
I like at bus better than scsi someone mentioned the performance of a
scsi drive with the panasonic and it performed less than it should on
scsi.
-> art drive. They both have their place but the Panasonic doesn't stack
-> up evenly with the Tosh by a long shot.
Well 50% less in price is a big deal but it ain't worth paying double
for those useless extra features if it were 600kb/sec drive then it
would be worth double the price.
Louis
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From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 1711
To: BRENDAN FARTHING Date: 08/25/93 1:11p
Subj: Aust. Phone Disc Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Also, does anyone know the difference between the one that sells for
-> about $1500.00 (I think it's called Aus On Disc) and the one that
-> sells for about $50.00 (This one is called Australian Phone Disk).
Well for $1500 it better be the entire yellow pages of all the
countries of the world for that price otherwise it ain't worth it.
Louis
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1712
To: HENDRE FALKSON Date: 08/24/93 2:03p
Subj: CD-ROM AND SBPRO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Mine has an IDE interface (SBPro + Panasonic CD drive).
40 pins does NOT an IDE interface make - the SB Pro has a PROPRIATARY
interface, unique to it and to the very few Panasonic/Matsushita drives that
have been specifically designed TO THAT INTERFACE.
* SLMR 2.1a * What do you mean, my "Birth Certificate expired"?!?
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1713
To: JORGE VELASCO Date: 08/24/93 2:05p
Subj: ZIP COPYWRITE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> >> BF> CD producers are required by LICENCE and therefore by tort
> >>LAW to register their PKZIP.
> >>
> >> What is your basis for this claim?
> > PKWare's requirements for COMMERCIAL usage of PKZIP/
> > PKUNZIP.
>Do you think that PKWare isn't gonna sue yet so in the long run they can sue
>more?
Not likely, after the Xerox suit against Apple got thrown out for too long of a
wait....
* SLMR 2.1a * Out to lunch - if not back by 5, out to dinner too.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1714
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/24/93 2:13p
Subj: THERE ARE 2 OF US!!!!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> CK> MYSELF! Ummm.. from what I hear, the only drives that the
> CK> Soundblaster Pro will hook directly up to are the Panasonic
> CK> and the Matuadkfaklfja (or some other long chinese name)
> Are you thinking of Matsushita?? This is an associated company
> to Panasonic......
Matsushita is the parent company of the Panasonic brand name/subsidiary (along
with Technics and a few others)....
* SLMR 2.1a * It's HARD to soar with eagles when you work with turkeys!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1715
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 08/24/93 3:04p
Subj: CD-ROM INTERFACES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BF> Always IN-2000 - don't settle for lesser Adaptec stuff....
> The Always card is in no way superior to the Adaptec line. In the
>first place, the IN-2000 only comes as an ISA card, no MCA or EISA support.
For those of us that don't have MCA or EISA (or local bus, for that matter),
the IN-2000 is an excellent choice, and FAR superior overall to any of the
Adaptec stuff (especially considering relative PRICING).
I have USED both - and DUMPED all of my Adaptec stuff in favor of the IN-2000.
>do believe it is an ISA busmaster
The IN-2000 does NOT do bus mastering - which stuff is overhyped on an ISA bus
anyway due to BUS throughput limitations under DMA.
>using an ISA busmaster basically limits the useful system RAM to 16 Megabytes.
This IS a problem with the Adaptec stuff, which ARE Bus Mastering cards.
>Also, Always has refused to produce OS/2 drivers for their card
OS/2 is the only case where Adaptec works better - though I have heard good
things about a third-party Allways OS/2 driver.
* SLMR 2.1a * Sex is nobody's business but the 1<=N<99999 involved....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1716
To: SCOTT DAVIS Date: 08/24/93 5:19p
Subj: MITSUMI 16-BIT CARD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Anyone know if the 16 bit controller card works with the LU-002S?
It is supposed to be compatable.
>and if so, how much is it
It is normally only available as a bundle package with the LU005, but with the
advent of the ATI and such sound cards with the Mitsumi interface built-in....
* SLMR 2.1a * If you would know a man, observe how he treats a Cat.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1717
To: JOE SLIFER Date: 08/24/93 5:20p
Subj: ADVICE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> LG> blaster 16 card. In the states its $180 U.S. for the mitsumi and $249
> LG> U.S. for the panasonic 562b
>Whats the source for the 562b? Thats $30 cheaper then I've seen it. -Thank
CD-ROM Source here locally carries the Panasonic 562 at $249 - likely several
other dealers can match that price....
* SLMR 2.1a * NAVY: Never Again Volunteer Yourself
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1718
To: BOB JENKINS Date: 08/24/93 6:00p
Subj: MITSUMI QUESTION Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> 1)Will this drive function with my SB 2.0 ?
The SB Pro uses a propriatary CD-ROM interface, that is NOT compatable with the
Mitsumi propriatary interface. The Mitsumi drives, however, are normally sold
WITH a controller card.
* SLMR 2.1a * Remember - it's this planet or Al Gore....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1719
To: JANUSZ SUROWKA Date: 08/24/93 6:02p
Subj: CD SPEEDWAY Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>isn't it 100ms=1 sec.
NO. 1000 Milliseconds to the Second - by Metric System definition.
* SLMR 2.1a * This calls for EXTREME measures! Start Electric Bagpipes!
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* Origin: Star Fleet Battles HQ Indianapolis [317] 726-1387 (1:231/190)
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1720
To: BOB HALL Date: 08/24/93 6:06p
Subj: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
>I would suggest any of you to leave a message to Mr. Tony Davis, and get his
>opinion.
I plan to do better - Tony still plans to be at the One BBS Con, so I plan to
talk to him face-to-face (likely as part of a LARGE crowd!)....
>He has came forth and discussed his situation in this echo
Among other places.
* SLMR 2.1a * Murphy's Rule of Combat: Incomming fire has right of way
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1721
To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 08/24/93 7:09p
Subj: SB WITH NEC DOUBLE SPIN Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> RE> Well, if I install 3 Panasonic paddle cards and set the
> RE> addressing correctly, yes! It just means I need a very big case!
> And I can do the same with 2 SCSI controllers.....gained a slot
And you have 2 "slots" left to run Hard Drives on, to boot.
>I will stack my SCSI-2 CD drives performance on a SCSI-2 controller up against
>anything else you care to compare it to......
And they will at best MATCH the performance of everything else, the DRM-604X
excepted.
> RE> When you start talking about Pioneer 6 CD drives, I start
> RE> to drool, but what hobbyist has the money, unless they run
> RE> a BBS and have someone subsidising them??
>Now those -are- slow.....
Granted somewhat on the DRM-600A - the DRM-604X is by NO means "slow",
compared to other CD-ROM drives....
* SLMR 2.1a * Annoy a Democrat - demand that they tell the Truth!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1722
To: DAN SCHWEMLEIN Date: 08/24/93 7:10p
Subj: GIF AND/OR MOD CD WANTED Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>I am looking for a CD that has all GIFs (no nudity
So Much Screenware should fit this. GIFs Galore is also a good match....
* SLMR 2.1a * He's a Democrat 'cause he's too poor to be Republican.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1723
To: MARK WOMACK Date: 08/24/93 7:28p
Subj: CD-ROM HELP! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>would be purely taking stabbs in the dark. I have 4 major drivers I need to
>have: STACKER 48k, MTMCDE.SYS, MCDEX.EXE 144K (64 BUFFERS) and PC-CACHE 1M.
Load the MSCDEX buffers into ExTENded (XMS) memory - I think that's the "/E"
switch. This will save you appx. 128K that you won't need to loadhi any
more....
>can't load all four of these high no matter what order they're in. I just
>can't understand that because I have 4 Megs of ram.
384K of this at MOST can be used for "loading high" = and out of that 384K ALSO
comes your System ROM, your Page Frame, your Video RAM, and any adapter BIOS
ROMs in the system.
To make it a short story, the "loadhi" address range is from the 640K DOS limit
up to the 1 Meg 20-bit Real Mode address limit.
* SLMR 2.1a * Hex Dump (n): where Witches put worn-out curses.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1724
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/24/93 7:30p
Subj: NEW MPC SPECS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> GM> By the way,what's that about 640*480*65,535 cols? A SVGA card is
> GM> still 256 or am I confused here?
> You're confused.... An SVGA card with 1Mb on it is capable of displaying
> 65,536 colours in 640x480 resolution in Windows....
Actually, cards that do more than 256 colors are generally NOT refered to as
"superVGA" but more commonly "truecolor" or some such terminology....
* SLMR 2.1a * The mice may have the right but the Cat has the claws....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1725
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/24/93 7:33p
Subj: PRO AUDIO OR SOUNDBL Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> T7G install, which a few people are using as a measure of "how fast their
> CD-ROM drive is" reports on three installs I have seen :-
> PAS 16/NEC CDR-55 - 300Kbps
> SB16 ASP/Panasonic CR563 - 584Kbps
> SB16 ASP/Panasonic CR563 - 612Kbps! (Different machine!)
Try it with a SCSI drive that is doublespin for a FAIR comparison. Better yet,
try it with a Pioneer DRM-604X on a FAST SCSI card like the Allways IN-2000 or
Adaptec 154x - the PAS is OK, but it's SCSI interface is NOT a fast one
(generally doesn't NEED to be with most CD-ROM drives)....
* SLMR 2.1a * Do SCAian Rednecks have Crossbow racks in their pickups?
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 1726
To: CR HAMILTON Date: 08/25/93 7:57a
Subj: Re: Night Owl 9 $25 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 23 Aug 93 21:42:58, I heard Cr Hamilton shout to Kevin Plummer:
CH> Kevin Plummer wrote in a message to All:
CH>
KP> N i g h t O w l 9 . 0
CH>
CH> Does this have the files.bbs format for use on the bbs?
CH>
CH> CR
Yes it does.
.....|<evin
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From: DAVE BENHAM Number: 1727
To: ALL Date: 08/25/93 11:20p
Subj: Hitachi CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have a Hitachi CDR 3500 and when I play Audio CD's it sounds real choppy...
Could this be ebcause of the 8bit controller card? I have a 486 66MHz DX2
VL-Bus machine.
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* Origin: You mean I can't *WRITE* to this? (1:2410/116@FIDONET.ORG)
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From: ALISON COZZUBBO Number: 1728
To: ALL Date: 08/25/93 10:17p
Subj: Hitachi Driver Card Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have a Hitachi CD ROM drive and card without docs. Can anybody tell me what
the jumpers do on this card? The number on the card is TCD-IF8P or anything
compatible. All I need to know is how to change the address of the card and
the I/O port or whatever the jumpers do.
Alison
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From: DAVE TERRELL Number: 1729
To: JAMES MUNRO Date: 08/25/93 10:46p
Subj: Sony driver for OS2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello James...I am running OS/2 2/1 on a Sony CDU31A CDROM drive. I too had
the same problem and obtained the driver from the Comstar BBS in North Carolina
at 1-704-541-0692. If you don't have any luck, send me a message and I'll try
to find it and make it available on my BBS, The Phantom's Lair at
1-904-286-5575. At this time I can't seem to locate it, but while this message
is going to you, I'm sure I will find it. Take care and good luck!
DAVE
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* Origin: The Phantom's Lair BBS (1:3608/25)
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From: ERIC HO Number: 1730
To: ALL SYSOPS Date: 08/24/93 10:58p
Subj: DR. CD-ROM TITLES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello BBS SysOps,
Do you want to increase your file bases? Do you want to get the latest
shareware programs? If your answer is "YES", please try our CD-ROM !
* Dr. Windows Vol. I ------ Applications, Icons, Utilities, Desktops
, wallpaper and more.... for Windows 3.x
(Released in Jun. 1993)
* Dr. Music Vol. I ------ Players, converters, MIDI, WAV, VOC...
for SB or compatible sound card.
(Released in Jul. 1993)
* Dr. Shareware Vol. I ------ The latest collections ! More than 600MB.
Includes Windows NT, OS/2 2.1, RA2.x,
communication, clipart, programming,
database, business, utilities, BBS Door,
Windows, Wordprocessors.....
(Released in Aug. 1993)
┌───────────────┬────────────┬─────────────┬─────────┐
│ Title │ List Price │ SysOp Price │ 15+ pcs │
╞═══════════════╪════════════╪═════════════╪═════════╡
│ Dr. Windows │ @$39.95 │ @$19.95 │ CALL │
├───────────────┼────────────┼─────────────┼─────────┤
│ Dr. Music │ @$29.95 │ @$19.95 │ CALL │
├───────────────┼────────────┼─────────────┼─────────┤
│ Dr. Shareware │ @$34.95 │ @$19.95 │ CALL │
└───────────────┴────────────┴─────────────┴─────────┘
* Limited time offer and for BBS SysOps only! (thru 9-31-1993)
* All DR. CD-ROMs are BBS ready(w/full description, files.bbs).
* For more information, please F'req ACES.ZIP at 1:143/88 or 408-453-6250
* ACES.ZIP contains full description and file list.
* F'req before you place the order.
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* Origin: Bank of GIFs, Dr. Image BBS 408-453-6250 14.4K (1:143/88)
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From: BILL ASHMAN Number: 1731
To: ALL Date: 08/23/93 8:46p
Subj: CDROM/PHOTOCD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone know of a recommended CDROM drive for and AMIGA 3000 system
that is compatible with Kodacks PhotoCD... i would like to get more info on
this option nowadays...
You could actually go shoot 36 Picture with your high quality 35mm camera and
have it Developed to PhotoCD and then import these major HIGH QUALITY IMAGES
to 24 bit programs... Instead of Scanning...
Sounds interesting..
I heard XTEC supports this... Any info appreciated..?
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From: BETH CORRIGAN Number: 1732
To: DIANE PENCIL Date: 08/24/93 10:57a
Subj: kodak photo CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
hi diane
unfortunatly the wall mart near me doesnt do the photo cds but im trying to get
the address for kodak to ask them about it! ill keep tryin!
Beth
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* Origin: The BlackMarket (508)682-0133, 3 Gig+, CD-Rom, Adult, Midi
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 1733
To: JOSH PICHE Date: 08/24/93 11:14p
Subj: Police Quest 4 (CD-ROM) Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Well Josh, I got the latest InterAction Magazine and it said nothing really in
depth about what might be on the CD-ROM version of that game, in an ariticle
consercing Police Quest 4, they explained what it was going to be about and
then at the end of the article in the last paragraph it said that there will
also be a CD-ROM version of that game, but they didn't tell in what ways the
CD-ROM version is better than the regular version, I will keep you posted on
any new things on it. C-ya and write back.
Ashwin
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 1734
To: VID KID Date: 08/26/93 2:18a
Subj: Re: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Boris on the DRM 604X when you say bare. Do you mean without
>> cables & software? I have seen a few places offering the same
>> but they include the cables and software. What Scsi II
>> controllers are available for that drive that come with the
>> drivers for it?
When we say bare, we mean you get the drive, magazine, drivers, RCA cables,
power cable and manual. If you can find a company that is also offering the
SCSI shielded cable for the same price as we offer our unit's for, I suggest
you better grab one fast as our price's are lower than most dealers can by
them at.
As for SCSI controllers, you can just about use any SCSI controller, but you
will need to make sure that it offers support drivers for cdrom systems.
Also, if you elect to purchase the DMR604X, it is HIGHLY recommended that
you install the system onto a 16 bit controller and NOT an 8 bit, due to
the quad spin and high transfer rate an 8 bit controller will give out
drive not ready and or crc error readings.
If you need further information, please feel free to call us at 216-225-3263
and we'll be happy to assist you further.
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... The Far East pirate's choice!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 1735
To: ANTON SWART Date: 08/26/93 2:18a
Subj: Re: red hot lot... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Yo ....
>> no 1 u mumbled...
->> Kings Quest 7 is now out and available !!
>> What does that mean! If u have it i'd like it!
Yes, it is in stock !
>> S00 Right now i would like ONLY IF ITS G00d!! honest oppinion!:
>> Gameware
>> Definiytevly Kings Quest 6 & 7
Have all of the above in stock and yes Kings Quest VI is an excellent game.
>> CCould u give me the individual prices coz i dont wanna waste
>> fax....
I will try to netmail you a more detailed answer!
>> thanx cheers!
Chat with you soon....
Boris Osadciw
... Happy as a Pig in Mud!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 1736
To: BRENDAN FARTHING Date: 08/26/93 2:18a
Subj: Re: Aust. Phone Disc Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Has anyone used the Australian Phone Book CD ?
>> Also, does anyone know the difference between the one that
>> sells for about $1500.00 (I think it's called Aus On Disc) and
>> the one that sells for about $50.00 (This one is called
>> Australian Phone Disk).
>> The one that sells for $50 contains the entire Yellow and
>> White Pages for every state in Australia.
>> Why is there such a HUGE price difference between that disk
>> and the $1500.00 one ??????
Simple! The one for $1500. offers an up to date database, while the other
one ( Phone Disk ) is nothing more than scans from the phone book, which can
mean you would get a lot of " This number has been disconnected " messages.
Also, Aus On Disk offers a more features than does Phone Disk. As they say,
you get what you pay for!
Hope this helps....
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... Simply more bang for your bucks!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 1737
To: MANESH RAMA Date: 08/26/93 2:18a
Subj: Re: encyclopedia's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> hey, i wuz wondering if anyone can get me a cheap encylcopedia
>> cd for about under $50 or how bout a trade.
>> for somthing
>> thanx
>> later
>> im desperate i need one.
>> i kinda' gave mine away.
>> oh and how good is a groliers encylcopedia
We have both Groilers for DOS or Windows and their priced at $50. each.
If your interested, please feel free to give us a call at 216-225-3263
anytime and we'll be happy to assist you further.
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... Simply more bang for your bucks!
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From: CHRIS SNYDER Number: 1738
To: CHRIS BOURNE Date: 08/23/93 3:05p
Subj: CSS CD Price List Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Do you match prices?
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From: DIANE PENCIL Number: 1739
To: DON SPROUL Date: 08/24/93 11:10p
Subj: Gravis Ultrasound Card and CD-Rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> I have a Mitsumi CD-Rom and I have an Gravis Ultrasound card that
> emulates a Soundblaster by software. My audio is very choppy and video
> with audio is choppy as well. Video alone is fine. I am using port
> 220, and IRQ 5 for the
> sound card, and I am using port 300 and IRQ 10 for the CD-Rom drive.
> Can anyone PLEASE help me. I don't want to change my sound card again.
> I like the Gravis, and it hasn't given me any problems until now.
Been using th eGravis card for over a year with no problems including 7th
guest. I have mine in a system that has a Texel drive on it however. I set my
Gravis card to Irq 7 which seems to work fine. I also have 2 serial ports,
parallel port, an Orchid Farenheit VA/VLB card which grabs a sound interrupt (I
think IRQ 5), a scanner and the gravis card. With all that stuff it still
manages to work ok. Might try changing your IRQ. Also are you running the
newest SBOS software? That makes a BIG difference in it's ability to run
compatibly.
Diane Pencil
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From: GREGORY MATYJA Number: 1740
To: ALL Date: 08/26/93 12:40a
Subj: Help w/2 soundcards and cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I recently bought a fusion16 cdrom kit and was wondering if it is possible to
get the cdrom to work with the SB Pro and the PAS 16 card in at the same time.
The only problem I encounter is the CD-rom starts adding/changing characters
with data cds. (Audio CDs work normal) I have tried changing the interupts and
DMAs on both cards, but have had no luck fixing the prob.
Greg Matyja
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From: STEPHEN KOVACSISS Number: 1741
To: ANDREW SEE Date: 08/25/93 9:17p
Subj: EXPLAIN SOUND CARDS TO ME Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AS}Who told you that? The GUS does "true" 16 bit playback, at sample rates up
}to 60 kHz.
It has 16-bit playback with up to 44.1 kHz sample rates.
Stephen
* 1st 1.11 * It takes courage to innovate, not imitate.
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From: ERIC SCHONNING Number: 1742
To: NIGEL ZETT Date: 08/25/93 11:22a
Subj: Re: MSCDEX Command Line Options Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NZ> Sorry to bring this one up again, but I recall reading a few messages
NZ> weeks about the MSCDEX command line options (both documented and
NZ> undocumented). I went to look for the message again and it was gone (
NZ> were actually).
NZ> Could someone please run down a list of ALL options, their parameters
NZ> uses? And no, the skimpy docs that came with my MSCDEX update (from F
NZ> Domain) DON'T list them at all, just a "recommended set-up line".
if you are running dos 6.00 just type
HELP MSCDEX
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* Origin: Creekside Manor (805) 484-8016 16.8k DS CdCom Support BBS
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From: RON YOUNG Number: 1743
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/22/93 6:52p
Subj: Re: Wanted cable texel - pas- Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message dated 19-Aug-93 02:03:07, Boris Osadciw wrote:
BO> >> I need a cable to go between mr Texel CD-ROM and my PAS-16?
BO> Yep, in stock and priced at $15.
You have them for a Texel/SBPro for audio?
Ron young
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 1744
To: MICHEL ROMY Date: 08/22/93 8:22a
Subj: Panasonic 562b Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MR>Can anyone give me the spec. of the Panasonic 562B CD-Rom
MR>drive ? is it internal or external ? transfer rate, ...
MR>And if it is internal, does an external version exist ? price ?
It is internal drive, multisession and kodak Photo CD compatible.
CD-ROM Panasonic 562B 320ms w/contlr caddyless 300k/s 64kcache.$279.
MIDI cable for any sound card with Joystick port...............$19.
Price does not included shipping.
Call 310-602-2076 8AM-12PM, 6PM-9PM PST or mail order payable to: TRUC
16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723. Accept money order, COD $5extra
* OLX 2.1 TD * voice 310-602-2076.8am-12pm,6pm-9pm PST. Fax 310-402-7240
*** Maximus 2.00
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From: DAVID M. WHITE Number: 1745
To: DUANE ELLISON Date: 08/24/93 9:43a
Subj: Cd-rom Bundles Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DE> Card, and software bundle such as the Fusion CD 16. I was
DE> curious what
DE> people think of these bundles and of the hardware included
I was also looking at the Fusion 16 package, however I found out it is an
800ms
drive that is not Kodak ready so have decided against it. If you have a
"Software Etc." store near you, they have that package priced at $399.
*** GEcho 1.00/beta+
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From: DERIK MINNICH Number: 1746
To: ALL Date: 08/25/93 5:58p
Subj: Sanyo CD-ROM drive. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi everone!
I am searching for someone who has been around CD-ROM's for a LONG time. I
have a Sanyo CD ROM drive which I bought used. It works mechanically but I
need to find a driver for it. So far I have been able only to find out that
Sanyo made the drive for only a short time. It is a SCSI drive and I need to
find out who made a controller that supported it. If anyone has ANY info they
can give me, I would be extremely grateful. The drive Model # is ROM-2501U
and was made in February 1988.
Thanks,
Derik Minnich
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From: STEVE GERWECK Number: 1747
To: ALL Date: 08/25/93 7:09p
Subj: CD Caddies Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Who has the best price on new cd caddies?
Steve
... 313-242-8792
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From: DON PUGH Number: 1748
To: AUSTRALIANS Date: 08/23/93 3:04p
Subj: Affordable cd-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AUSTRALIA
The following disks are available from:
Don Pugh, CDROM SUPPORT BBS
17 Irvine St
Peppermint Grove, West Australia 6011
PH 09-384-9043 BBS Data 09-383-4925 (Fidonet 3:690/750)
Night Owl 9 $49.00 Seventh Guest $89.00
Super ClipART $19.00 PC-SIG Games $39.00
Super Games for Windows $19.00 Circa Windows $29.00
Simtel-20 1992 $19.00 GIGA Games $39.00
For Affordable CD-roms in Australia: Credit Cards Accepted
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From: TONY STOTT Number: 1749
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/25/93 7:44a
Subj: Price Confusion Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 08-21-93, Mike Avila elucidated to Rowan Evans:
MA>*** Quoting Rowan Evans to Joel Dumas dated 08-18-93 ***
MA>>
MA>> A dealer tried to interest me in a PAS 16/Texel... They wanted over
MA>> $1300.00 for the combo and, (they also sold the SB kit!) when SHOWN
MA>WOW! That is an outragous price. I got the Texel drive and the
Rowan (and everyone else too), can I gently suggest that due to this being
an international echo, we all include the symbol for the currency we are
referring to when we quote a dollar amount?
Common abbreviations are as follows:-
Australian $ AUD or A$
US $ USD or US$
Canadian $ CAN or CAN$
There appears to be many messages where the different currencies used
without being indentified as such create misunderstanding. Thanks
---
■ WinQwk 2.0 B4 #220 ■ I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous..
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From: JOEL DUMAS Number: 1750
To: PAUL NUSBAUM Date: 08/26/93 1:42a
Subj: Re: CD-Rom kit Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Paul Nusbaum to Josh Piche <=-
JP> That sounds great. I'm really considering getting a CD
JP> Rom, but it's kind of tough to make a decision. For
JP> instance, I don't know if it's really worth it to spend
JP> extra cash for this multispin technology. Plus, these
PN> I don't know a lot about CD ROMS to be honest, but from what I
PN> have heard, the multispin technology could be a big feature in the
PN> near future, one that would make it worth buying now. I haven't used
PN> the full advantages of the drive yet so I can't say for sure, though.
What's a multi-spin, multi-session CDROM?
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* Origin: "Lightning BBS, Perth WA, +61-9-344-7199 (4 lines)" (3:690/602)
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From: LAURIE BATT Number: 1751
To: SUNNY HUI Date: 08/24/93 8:38a
Subj: Double speed Cd-Rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
G'day Sunny, In a message on <Aug 21>, you said :
SH> Everbody, I would like to know that whether that the speed
SH> of the CPU(386/486) will affect the performance of the
SH> CD-Rom. It is because I would like to purchase a CD-Rom but
SH> I don't know if one of my old 386 can handle... Thank You!
Dont worry about it. CDROM will work on almost any machine.
My first CDROM about 4 years ago ran on a 286 with no problem.
My present CDROM has at times been used on a 286 a 386 and 486
Laurie
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From: LAURIE BATT Number: 1752
To: MIKE AVILA Date: 08/24/93 8:51a
Subj: 16 bit cards Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
G'day Mike, In a message on <Aug 21>, you said :
MA> *** Quoting Rowan Evans to Joel Dumas dated 08-18-93 ***
>>
>> A dealer tried to interest me in a PAS 16/Texel... They
>> wanted over $1300.00 for the combo and, (they also sold the
>> SB kit!) when SHOWN
MA> WOW! That is an outragous price. I got the Texel drive and
MA> the PAStudio16 at different times but from the same place
MA> and total cost including shipping was under $750 (don't
MA> remember EXACT amount). Matter of a fact I believe it was
MA> just under $725.
You obviously didnt realise that Rowan and Joel are both in Australia
$750 US dollars converts to about $1100 Ozzie Dollars, add the import
duty/sales tax and that brings to around $1300
Laurie
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From: ANDRE QUEREE Number: 1753
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 08/25/93 10:03a
Subj: 7TH GUEST. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Brice Fleckenstein to Andre Queree <=-
> AQ> PS. It's a shame that Americans don't realise that not everyone
> AQ> uses NTSC video.
> PB> Does that mean we won't be able to get PAL video's here?
>That's right! And also, we are legally not allowed to copy the NTSC tape to
>PAL format - even for our own use - as that would infringe copyright!
BF> Wrong - as long as you don't DISTRIBUTE such a copy to anyone else,
BF> you DO have the right to make such a copy.
You should take a closer look at my tag line, and I should be more specific -
it IS illegal in Australia to make a copy of your own video tapes, audio
tapes, LPs and CDs for any use whatsoever. There was a lot of controversy
here recently as a lot of people were confused over this issue, but it was
cleared up in a very simple statement which said it WAS ILLEGAL.
Making any sort of copy infringes basic copyright laws - I would suggest you
check closer to find out what the laws in you country and state are. Most
people here still think its OK to copy their CDs to tape to listen to in the
car - I guess it's just a convenient understanding of the law.
It is also illegal to make backup copies of computer software unless it is
specifically stated in the software's license agreement.
>It's a shame the Americans think they are the only people in the world!!
BF> It's a shame that Europe is the ONLY part of the world that still
BF> clings to the incompatable-with-everything PAL standard....
As I said, you should take a closer look at my tag line - PAL is in use in a
lot more places than just Europe. It offers higher picture resolution (and
therefore better quality) and is just as compatible with other formats as NTSC
is (ie. not at all). And what do you mean "we still cling"? PAL is a more
recent format than NTSC! It would seem that the NTSC users were "still
clinging" to old formats!!
Catch ya' later!
Andre
... Al, I just leaped into a tagline. What does Ziggy have to say?
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From: SCOTT GOLBY Number: 1754
To: ROB PERELMAN Date: 08/24/93 3:52p
Subj: CD Rom Requirements Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi there,
RP> Now I plan to run OS/2 v2.1 on this system and I am thinking about a
RP> CD-Rom drive and maybe even a sound card. Now my question is, what kind
RP> of CD-Rom drive and adaptors do I need to get to be compatible with my
RP> IDE hard drive and OS/2? Please help me A.S.A.P. Thanks!
I haven't heard of anything that would confict with your IDE
drives, if something did it would probably drive the makers out of
business very quickly! :-)
There are a whole heap of SCSI cards and CD-ROMs that are
supported by OS/2 straight out of the box, as well as the Sound Blaster
and PAS Audio cards. I have the SBPro + CD-ROM kit, while OS/2 2.1 does
not have drivers for the CD-ROM staight out of the box its just a matter
of downloading the driver from you local BBS or Creative Labs and
putting it on the install floppy and adding it to the startup. The quite
neat thing is OS/2 see the driver there and installs it over to the hard
drive.
I didn't have any problem then installing the OS/2 CD-ROM
version off the SBPro + CD-ROM combo.
'C' ya... Scott Golby
sgolby@st.nepean.uws.edu.au
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From: BRIAN HURLEY Number: 1755
To: DON SPROUL Date: 08/25/93 12:12p
Subj: Gravis Ultrasound Card an Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DS>I have a Mitsumi CD-Rom and I have an Gravis Ultrasound card that emulates a
>Soundblaster by software. My audio is very choppy and video with audio is
>choppy as well. Video alone is fine. I am using port 220, and IRQ 5 for
>the
What software are you trying to run? And which Mitsumi do you have? If it's
the 600ms 150k version that is your problem. I have the same thing here and
can't run 7th Guest and Sherlock Holmes pauses for .5sec every 5-10sec.
My solution is to get a 280ms 300kb drive. I'll have mine on order just as
soon as I get back from vacation in Sept.
Brian
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From: TODD BEEBE Number: 1756
To: ANDREW BELL Date: 08/18/93 11:00p
Subj: looking.. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AB=>I'm looking for a CD-Rom.. Must be BBS door compatible
AB=>should contain Graphics, Sound, And Grsaphic & sound
I have one I would sell you. Its filled with sound(.ROL,.WAV,.MOD etc) and
graphics(.PCX, .GIF, etc) about 650 megs. Includes
utilities too. You can call me voice at 402-470-3443 or netmail 1:285/209 if
your interested and want more details.
Thanks.
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From: STEVE ROGERS Number: 1757
To: GIL GOLDFINCH Date: 08/22/93 5:12p
Subj: CABLES- DRIVE TO SOUNDCRD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GG>the SCSI interface driver for an NEC CDR55 player and an audio cable
GG>between the CD and sound card. Thanks for the advice though. Any further
GG>help would be appreciated.
Yup, Those drive to soundcard cables have been almost impossible to
find. I started looking for a source for them almost 2 years ago,
and they seemed to be non-existant.
But I now can get these sound cables for almost any combinations
of drives and sound cards. I'll check to see for sure your drive
and sound card are on my cable list tomorrow after I get to work at
the store. (I'll look back at your note to be sure, but what
sound card do you have?)
Oh, I think the price is $9.50 I'll let ya know.
_______
-<SAR>- CD ROM World (402)434-2908
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From: JOHN ROBERTSON Number: 1758
To: RAY DYER Date: 08/23/93 10:27p
Subj: BBS Shareware CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi, Ray! Saw your note about Night Owls 9, we carry it here in Vancouver for
$50 CAnadian. No import hassles, and have lots in stock. Leave me a note or
netmail for order, we take Visa, M/C or cheques all at par. No charge for mail
to sysops.
:-#
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From: JOHN ROBERTSON Number: 1759
To: DON SPROUL Date: 08/23/93 10:32p
Subj: Gravis Ultrasound Card and CD-Rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi, Don! Recently you asked...
DS> Hi,
DS> I have a Mitsumi CD-Rom and I have an Gravis
DS> software. My audio is very choppy and video with
DS> audio is choppy as well. Video alone is fine. I am
DS> using port 220, and IRQ 5 for the
DS> Gravis, and it hasn't given me any problems until now.
Could you try adjusting the MSCDEX buffers, say to 15 or 31 or possibly 61,
this may help otherwise you might try a cache program to smooth the data
transfer out a bit. An easy way to tell if your drive is the problem is to see
if the light is on continuously or if it flickers on/off with the sound/video
problems. Also what CD are you trying to run, 7th Guest doesn't work well on
the Mitsumi!
:-#
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From: RANDY RASA Number: 1760
To: ALL Date: 08/25/93 7:36p
Subj: Shareware for CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
To: All Shareware CDROM Publishers
If you are interested in receiving shareware direct from the author,
please post an address where you'd like a disk to be sent, or a BBS
phone number where uploads can be posted.
Randy Rasa
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 1761
To: CR HAMILTON Date: 08/24/93 5:27p
Subj: Big Sky ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CH>What kind of prices do you get on these? And are they ready for bbs use
>(i.e, files.bbs in each subdirectory?) I run Maximus, and just got a
>Panasonic w/ SCSI card, and am trying to determine the best way to
>proceed...
Big Sky is now selling for $26 plus shipping. It is BBS ready with the
files.bbs in each directory. If you have any questions, just give me a
call. Thanks.
Computer Works Jim...
CD-Rom Sales!
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card & COD Orders
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From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 1762
To: STEPHEN WALSH Date: 08/26/93 11:53a
Subj: CDROM Drive wanted.. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SW> WANTED:
SW> I URGENTLY require a NEC CDR-80 cdrom SCSI drive. Please
SW> E-Mail me if you have one for sale or know of someone that
SW> does...
I have one but unfortunately it will cost you $200 BUT you get a free NEC
cdr-80 drive with it. <g>
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From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 1763
To: MAHMUT KURSUN Date: 08/26/93 12:00p
Subj: Nightowl 9 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Mahmut Kursun wrote in a message to all:
MK> If you master a CDROM, check it out closer. Next mail is a
MK> What-to-do-list
You made many very good suggestions. I would suggest you make a cd and find
out how easy these suggestions are to implement.<G>
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From: DON SCHMIDT Number: 1764
To: STEWART ROTHMAN Date: 08/24/93 9:08a
Subj: Medical Advice Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SR> I asked before, but didn't receive an answer so I'll try again.
SR> I'm looking for a CD that has a complete listing of drugs and
SR> prescriptions and those that conflict or should not be taken
SR> with each other, etc.
In a calalog (Late Summer 1993) put out by TigerSoftware,
(800) 888-4437, lists the following CD on page 17:
The Family Doctor $49.90: A practical, extensive medical guide
offering answers to nearly 1,500 commonmly asked health questions.
Includes national support group listings, educational resources and
data on prescritptions drugs.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This doesn't sound as complete as "The Pharmasist" but it might be
of some value. You might contact the company that puts out the
Parmasist and see if they plan a CD version. Or, ask your local real
life pharmasist to see what might be available. Or, the publishers
of such books covering the information you want.
[MTN_QWK 1.0]- *** From sunny Vancouver, USA ***
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 1765
To: BRANDON RICKERSON Date: 08/25/93 10:55p
Subj: Police Quest 4 (CD-ROM) Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I have both of the Wing Commander games on CD. Its great but I re
-> don't have a fast CD-ROM drive but its still great. Live long and pro
What drive do you have? I have a Mitsumi. I LOVED W.C. I even without
the mission disks...
The CD versions are woth it just for the price difference of buying it
all separately...
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 1766
To: ROBERT HAWORTH Date: 08/25/93 6:50a
Subj: New Roland Compat Sound C Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
What exactly is this card? Is it the Turtle Beach one?
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 1767
To: ZORAN ANANIJEV Date: 08/25/93 6:55a
Subj: SB16ASP+WBLASTER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> 1. What is the best MOD playing program for this unit? I've seen the
-> comes with the PAS16 and it definately sounds better than anything fo
-> the best I have used so far is Dual Module Player.
I use WOWII. I couldn't get DMP to work, I think it would be the best
but I think my board isn't 'seen' by it.
-> 2. How do you get the MT32 emulation to work on games that support th
-> W/Blaster has the relevant .CBK files and I even load them manually b
-> I get into a game still no go is there a driver or something I am mis
->
-> The games are Strike Commander, MPS Grand Prix, X-Wing, Dune2...they
-> have options for either SB+MT32 or SB+Roland or MT32 on its own.
I didn't know you could emulate the MT-32.
The options you listed are for SB AND MT-32. SB for digitized speach and
F/X MT-32 for EXCELLENT music! Have you ever heard a MT-32? I don't
think it is available anymore. (Been replaced by better one CM-32L I
think) When it was it was about $500 by itself...
Hope I was of some help :)
Henry
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 1768
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 08/25/93 7:02a
Subj: Re: Cd-rom help! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> 1998848 bytes free EMS memory
->
-> 2031616 bytes total XMS memory
-> 2031616 bytes available XMS memory
-> 0 bytes available contiguous extended memory
-> DOS resident in High Memory Area
-> High Memory Area in use
->
-> Unlike with QEMM, if I were to use, say, 16M of that EMS memo
-> would still have the 20M of XMS available. OF course, if I wanted to
-> graphics in this window, I could have about 696K free, instead of 632
-> What's more, all of my other DOS sessions could still use graphics!
-> this is available with an 850 Meg C: drive, a Pioneer DRM-604X six pa
Are you saying you have over 40mb of memory? The numbers you list show
about 2.5mb each, did you get your numbers crossed? I do sometimes. I
saw a guy in HS modems even that said he had a 12000 modem, I think he
meant 1200.
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 1769
To: CARLOS BENITZ Date: 08/25/93 7:12a
Subj: Kings Quest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Not yet. It's just sitting in my drawer, still in its shrinkwrap. I
-> it at a swap meet, and later it occurred to me that it's probably a u
-> that someone shrinkwrapped, so I'm hosed. Sometime when I get extra
-> I'll open it up and look at the install/readme's. (The thing I bough
-> shrink wrapped jewl case.) I suppose I need manuals to work it?
If it is copy=protected you do, though who would be DUMB enought to copy
protect a CD-ROM? It's not like you can just 'put' it on your hard drive
or nothing. hehehe!
The manuals are all of about $5 I believe. You can call at
1-209-683-4468 to see what gives.
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From: JASON ELKINS Number: 1770
To: CHRIS CONKLIN Date: 08/26/93 2:16a
Subj: CD-ROM Disks in Canada Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey, I know this is a REALLY late reply to a message, but I've been looking for
a Catalog for good CD-ROM software, b/c I am soon-to-be Sysop of a Galveston
area board. I have CD-ROM capacity, and would greatly appreciate the catalog,
if you don't mind. My address:
Jason Elkins
706 Duroux Rd.
LaMarque, TX 77568
(409)935-2301
THANX!!
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From: GORDON FLETCHER Number: 1771
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/24/93 10:37a
Subj: BIBLES & RELIGION Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MS>Sorry Keith, our special purchase stock is gone on those, but they are
MS>in stock again at the regular price of $13.00.
Mike, Do you also have "Shakespeare" at a good price. If so, will order
both.
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From: DEVIN WOOD Number: 1772
To: THOSE IN THE KNOW Date: 08/26/93 12:51p
Subj: NEC CDR-84 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I've been considering this drive. I have a concern though. I'm a
quadriplegic and can't move my fingers. I need a drive with a caddy so
I don't ruin my CDs. I'm trying to find out about the doors. Needing
to use both hands to insert ther disk, I won't be able to hold a door
open while I do it. How are the doors set up?
It's hard for me to get out to see for myself. Would anyone recommend
another drive with similar features that they consider superior?
Thanks,
Devin
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From: VINCE SORENSEN Number: 1773
To: ALL Date: 08/25/93 1:02p
Subj: CANADIAN CD-ROM SOURCE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Night Owl 9... order your copy today from the CD-ROM WHOLESALERS!
Now just $35 Cdn including all applicable taxes for a limited time
**PLUS** Order any other disc at the regular price, and
receive a mystery 640 Meg Shareware disc absolutely free!
------------------CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA------------------
306-789-4654 Voice Mailing address (please include
306-789-8690 Fax $2 S/H per disc): 6 Armstrong Bay,
306-789-8682 Online Ordering Regina, Sk. Canada S4N 4G7
This offer may not be combined with any coupons or other specials.
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From: VINCE SORENSEN Number: 1774
To: RAY DYER Date: 08/25/93 1:03p
Subj: NIGHT OWL 9 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Ray!
$75 for Night Owl 9? If you can't find one of our
authorized dealers in the Toronto area, give us a call.
Its worth trying mail order out, if its going to save
you $40+. You'd pay $75 + 8% Ontario Sales Tax + 7% G.S.T.
through that store ($86.25). With us, you pay $37. Period.
All applicable taxes included. Shipping included.
You receive it in 2-3 days. If you buy *any* other disc
from us along with that Night Owl, you'll receive Shareware
Studio for the cost of the shipping and handling (free+$2).
I've been a retail customer. I've been a mail order
customer. I've paid high prices, and I've had 1 1/2 month
waits for mail ordered discs to arrive from the U.S. That's
why I'm here - because I knew there had to be a better way
for Canadians like myself. Give us a call at 306-789-4654,
and we'll make *sure* that you never want to go anywhere else.
Vince
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From: BERNARD SAVONET Number: 1775
To: OLIVER BLADEK Date: 08/24/93 8:06p
Subj: Mscdex v2.22 Refer: NONE
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ML] OB> 'mscd001 ') When I type the specs for the CD it's
ML] OB> c:\sb16\drv\mscdex.exe /d:mscd001 /m:5 /d:
ML] OB> It replies with incorrect DOS version. I have an ASI 486/33SX
]and is using DOS 6.0 and Windoze 3.1 Thanx in advance TTYl
ML]how about using setver.exe ???
Oliver,
Have you tried to use the Mscdex in your \DOS directory (instead of the
one in \sb16\drv) with exactly the same parameters?
I did that on my machine and it did work instantly.
REMARK: According to several mails in this conference, it seems that you
need setver anyway. I was using it already, so cannot really confirm.
Good luck!
Bernard
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From: FEDERICO MUNOZ PENA Number: 1776
To: CARLOS FERNANDEZ SANZ Date: 08/19/93 8:59p
Subj: i didn't know ! Sorry ! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm Sorry, i didn't know i have to write in English, My Sysop Told me after
the message was sent. But I promise not to do so again !
Atte.
Federico Alejandro Muñoz Peña
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From: FEDERICO MUNOZ PENA Number: 1777
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 08/19/93 9:02p
Subj: Conectar CR-ROM MITSUMI A Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Estimado Adrian :
I never receive your answer, I do not know why ! But I'm glad you write me, i
hope you can send me a copy of your last answer, I will apreciate that !
I'm not so good writting in English, correct me if i'm wrong.
Thanks.
Federico Alejandro Muñoz Peña
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From: ROBERTO REYES Number: 1778
To: FEDERICO MUNOZ PENA Date: 08/25/93 8:40p
Subj: Conectar Cr-Rom Mitsumi A Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
FMP:>Estimado Adrian :
FMP:>I never receive your answer, I do not know why ! But I'm glad you write m
FMP:>i hope you can send me a copy of your last answer, I will apreciate that !
FMP:>I'm not so good writting in English, correct me if i'm wrong.
FMP:>Thanks.
FMP:>Federico Alejandro Muñoz Peña
I have a Mitsumi what do you need to connect?
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From: ERIC HO Number: 1779
To: ARNIE GROSS Date: 08/25/93 6:59p
Subj: Re: Dr. Cd-rom Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
> In reference to Dr. Windows, Dr. Music, and Dr. Shareware:
> Country Fair Software would be interested in handling all
> three of your discs, but would need to talk to you about
> dealer pricing first.
Sure, No problem. Dealers are welcomed.
> You neglected to post a voice phone number in your ad.
Thanks. You can call me at 510-683-8855 (9:00 to 18:00 Pacific Time) or Fax at
510-683-8875.
Eric
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From: GREG ISOKRARI Number: 1780
To: ROLAND LAROCQUE Date: 08/25/93 7:18p
Subj: Magnavox cdd 461 cd-r Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
You sent me mail about helping me with my CD ROM a few days ago today is
8-25...
Thanks but I really didn't have any problems with it. Trying to find some
good CD's to put on it that aren't too expensive right now. Wouldn't mind
used CD's but really haven't come across anything I trust...
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From: MIKE WARWICK Number: 1781
To: NICHOLAS GOLDWYN Date: 08/26/93 3:51p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Controller Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
OK...Thanks for taking the time to reply. Best regards from Deer Valley,
Az. :-)
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From: STEVE ROY Number: 1782
To: ALL Date: 08/25/93 11:51p
Subj: Night Owl 9 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello All!
Night Owl 9 for sale
$40.00 CDN + postage. reply here, thanks
Cheers,
Steve
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From: RON FINDLING Number: 1783
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/23/93 8:04p
Subj: New Mpc Specs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> RF> Regarding multimedia, for example, it's apparently very difficult
> RF> under Windows to synchronize full motion video and speech, whereas
> RF> under OS/2 it's relatively easy.
> I'll have to check my Windows 3.1 SDK!
OS/2 also has a lot more MM stuff than Windows, not just a full-motion
video player, a CD-ROM music player, but even a laser-VIDEOdisc player.
You have to pay big extra buck$ to get the equivalent functionality
with Windows...
Read one of the most recent BYTE issues for a comparision re: Windows
vs. OS/2 multimedia... OS/2 easily comes out on top.
========================================================================
> Well, I find it interesting that the OS/2 2.1 GA doesn't have some of the
> CD-ROM drivers, you have to pull them off a support BBS....
It's not reasonable for any OS to include ALL the drivers for EVERYTHING
it supports, new ones are constantly coming out, and OS/2 comes on
enough disks anyways.
___
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From: NICK FUNK Number: 1784
To: ALL Date: 08/26/93 6:43a
Subj: Panasonic 562 & Pro Studio 16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone know if the new ProAudio Studio 16 by MediaVision SCSI port
will work with the Panasonic CR-562 double speed drive. An if so are
the drivers included with the sound card.
Any information is greatly appreciated!!!!!!!!11
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1785
To: SHANNON BLACKBURN Date: 08/25/93 1:11p
Subj: JEMDISC Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Yes, the files are explicit in comparison to the rest of the disk (full
frontal
>nudity and so forth). His descriptions of the files are accurate.
>By the way, you do not need a Macintosh computer to view *.MAC files; all you
>need is a viewer such as CompuShow (CSHOW).
AllMac works much better overall on .MAC files than CSHOW....
* SLMR 2.1a * The Meadow Party in '96!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1786
To: SIMEON CRAN Date: 08/25/93 2:00p
Subj: CDR74 + AHA1542B HELP!!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>I have an NEC CDR-74 CD-ROM drive and an Adaptec AHA1542b SCSI host adapter. I
>run OS/2 2.1 which recognises all the hardware without a problem.
>All is good as long as I run OS/2.
>But when I have tried to run plain DOS (without OS/2) I have a problem because
>I don't have drivers to work with MSCDEX.
You need the Adaptec ASW-1410 AND ASW-410 kits, or their "EZ-SCSI" (repackaged
Corel SCSI) kit.
>The Adaptec people say that there is nothing they can give or sell me
You're lucky - back when I put up with Adaptec stuff, they wouldn't talk to me
at ALL - and I'm a DEALER!
* SLMR 2.1a * Don't blame me. I voted Libertarian!!!!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1787
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 08/25/93 2:03p
Subj: PRO AUDIO OR SOUNDBLA Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Pioneer DRM-604X not only holds 6 discs, but it transfers at 612KB/sec
> With the Adaptec 1742 in enhanced mode running under OS/2 2.1, the
>CD-ROM is indeed almost fast enough to rival an old MFM hard drive.
The 604X should be in many cases FASTER than an old MFM setup - MFM maxed out
at appx. 500KB/sec, though the average access commonly was as low as 28 ms (and
in a few cases even LESS)....
Depends on how the diles are laid out and how many of them and how big....
* SLMR 2.1a * Cats are aliens that took over the Earth millenia ago.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1788
To: DARIN CELINO Date: 08/25/93 2:05p
Subj: ADVICE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>|SP> But the PAS 16 does have a SCSI portand the Mitsumi doesn't..
>Not sure of this.....but I think that the PAS 16 has a kit available to run a
>Mitsumi from the CD port.
There is no such thing - though the PAS16 SCSI port will work with a WIDE range
of drives, the Mitsumi is NOT among them.
You may be thinking of the ATI FX/CD sound card, which DOES have a Mitsumi-
compatable port on it....
* SLMR 2.1a * Barnum is outdated - it's now every 10 seconds....
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1789
To: DONATO RABAGO Date: 08/26/93 1:30a
Subj: SHIPPING? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DR>I am from Guadalajara Jalisco., MEXICO, and I would like to know if you can
DR>ship any CD-ROM to M xico. If you can I would like a price list, please
We sure can. Air Parcel Post shipping is $6 for up to 1 lb, and about
$3 for each additional pound. Be glad to send you a catalog, or you
can freq it from 1:3407/101. Filename STARCAT.ZIP.
Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1790
To: TONNY LIN Date: 08/26/93 1:30a
Subj: Encyclopedias Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TL> MS> We have the Grolier's Illustrated version 2.0 at $35. The MPC version
TL> MS> is $48. Call any time if interested.
TL>Let me know the different between them. Tks!
The Illustrated version consists mainly of text and VGA images. The
MPC version runs under Windows and features sound and full-motion video
in portions. Both in stock if you're interested!
Bye,
.\\ike
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1791
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 08/26/93 1:30a
Subj: NEW CD-SOUTHERN BEAUTIES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JL>MS>BR>> BR> ********** SOUTHERN BEAUTIES MAY NOT BE USED ON ANY BBS
JL>MS>Then why did you put FILES.BBS on it?
JL> > ^^^
JL>I think that is called meeting the letter, but not the intent of the
JL>copyright laws. <G> It's kind of like Neverlock saying not to use their
JL>program unless you have purchased the program you are unprotecting. ;)
Well whatever. <sigh> I've asked him three times to explain it, with
no reply (that I've seen) to date. Still a good looking CD, but I doubt
that a lot of sysops will be buying it. 8)
Bye,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1792
To: ROB MCINTYRE Date: 08/26/93 1:30a
Subj: CD LIQUIDATION! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RM>What is the JEDI Collection ? Is it a Star Wars library ?
No Rob, it an educational CD package from the Joint Education
Initiative at College Park Md. Deals with Earth and Space Sciences.
Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1793
To: ALL Date: 08/26/93 1:30a
Subj: KING'S QUEST VI: $47! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BRAND NEW CD ARRIVALS AT STARVECTOR!
King's Quest VI.....$47 Shareware Explorer..$59 Phonedisc USA.......$69
Soundware Coll'ctn..$27 So Much Shareware 3.$28 Gameware Collection.$24
Aminet Amiga 1993...$15 5 Star Windows......$27 Electronic Cookbook.$33
Programmers Megapak.$29 Canadian Shareware..$19 Precision Mapping...$79
Shareware Online 2.soon Microsoft Golf......$58 Mac Shareware.......$22
M/M Computer Tutor..$30 Int'l Graphics Libr.$33 Color Magic Clipart.$28
The Holy Bible......$24 Am. Bus Phonebk 93..$35 Reel Clips..........$35
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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* SLMR 2.1a * Picard and Riker in '96!
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1794
To: ALL Date: 08/26/93 1:31a
Subj: NEW CD 4-PAK: $59 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
---------------------[ SHAREWARE EXPLORER 4-PAK ]--------------------------
* 26,000+ files
* 3 discs are completely DOS files
* 4th disc is completely Windows 3.0/3.1 files (over 7000)
* Mostly 1992/1993 files
* Less than 1% duplication among the 4 CD's *********
* BBS ready ** $59 **
* Very nice file retrieval interface and menu system *********
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: NEIL BERGMAN Number: 1795
To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 5:23p
Subj: DISCOUNT CD-ROM'S [A] Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SHORELINE CD-ROM PRICE LIST
PHONE ORDERS: (310) 652-2858 FAX ORDERS: (310) 652-2858
CD-ROM TITLE Your Price
"A SURVEY OF WESTERN ART (Eng, Fr, Gr, Sp.)" $29.33
ADVENTURES OF WILLY BEAMISH $20.70
AIRCRAFT ENCYCLOPEDIA $31.05
ALOHA HAWAII $21.56
ANIMALS MPC (SAN DIEGO ZOO) $20.70
Animation Festival $18.11
ANNABEL'S DREAM OF ANCIENT EGYPT $72.80
ARTHUR'S TEACHER TROUBLES $25.88
AUDUBON'S BIRDS OF AMERICA $21.84
AUDUBON'S MAMMALS $21.84
BARNEY BEAR GOES TO SPACE $21.84
BARRONS PROFILES OF AMERICAN COLLEGES $23.29
BATTLE CHESS ENHANCED $24.75
BEAUTY & THE BEAST $15.53
BERLITZ Think & Talk French $144.86
BERLITZ Think & Talk German $144.86
BERLITZ Think & Talk Italian $144.86
BERLITZ Think & Talk Spanish $144.86
BIBLE LIBRARY $30.19
BIBLES & RELIGION $14.66
BRAIN DRAIN $32.78
BRING THE WORLD TO YOUR SENSES $10.35
BUSINESS & ECONOMIC ATLAS $21.56
C.I.A. WORLD FACT BOOK $29.33
Cameron's Fine Art $34.50
CANYON ACTION! $30.19
CAREER OPPORTUNITIES $31.91
CARMEN SAN DIEGO DELUXE $22.43
CD STORYTIME VOL1 $18.98
CD-CAD (computer aided design) $14.66
CD-ROM DIRECTORY ON DISK 1992 $25.88
CHESSMASTER 3000 $20.70
CICA MS WINDOWS $12.94
CINEMANIA MICROSOFT $82.80
CLASSIC COLLECTION + $85.90
Clip Art Heaven $18.98
CLIPART GALORE $32.78
CLIPART GOLIATH $14.66
COATES ART REVIEW: IMPRESSIONISM $29.33
Color Magic $21.56
COLOSSAL COOKBOOK $14.66
COMPLETE BOOKSHOP $14.66
COMPLETE WORKS OF SHAKESPEARE $21.84
COMPOSER QUEST $45.71
COMPTONS INTERACTIVE ENCYCLOPEDIA $138.00
CONAN: THE CIMMERIAN $35.36
CONSUMER INFORMATION $31.91
Cook Book Heaven $18.98
DAGGER OF AMON RA $32.78
DARWIN MULTIMEDIA $61.24
DEATHSTAR ARCADE $14.66
DESERT STORM $22.43
DESKTOP PUBLISHERS DREAM DISC 93 $31.05
DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES $14.66
DICTIONARY OF THE LIVING WORLD $31.05
DINOSAUR ADVENTURE $25.88
DISC CADDIES (DOMESTIC) $5.24
DISC CADDIES (EUROPEAN) $4.15
ECO-QUEST $32.78
ELECTRONIC HOME LIBRARY $35.36
ELECTRONIC LIBRARY OF ART I $30.19
ELECTRONIC LIBRARY OF ART II $30.19
EUROPEAN MONARCHS $30.19
"FAMILY CHOICE, BRITANNICA" $22.43
FAMILY DOCTOR $19.65
FAMILY EDUCATION COLLECTION $19.65
FOOD ANALYST $39.68
FRACTUNES $31.91
FRESH ARTE $31.91
FUTURA $32.78
Game Arena $11.21
GAME PACK II $26.74
GARBO MSDOS/Mac $12.94
Gif Galaxy $20.70
GIGA GAMES $17.25
GIGABYTE GOLD $35.36
GOLDEN IMMORTAL $22.43
GREAT CITIES OF THE WORLD I $22.43
GREAT CITIES OF THE WORLD II $22.43
GUNIESS DISC OF RECORDS $24.15
HAM RADIO $14.66
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From: MICHAEL TURNER Number: 1796
To: MARCUS STUART Date: 08/24/93 12:00a
Subj: Re: Mod Cd-Roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On Sun 15-Aug-1993 9:18p, Marcus Stuart babbled:
MS> I saw this message and i thought WOW a whole CD full of mods !!
MS> I run a small bbs with 300 mod files or so in the uk and just wondered
MS> if you could possibly tell me where i could get hold of this amazing cd
MS> mentioned above ?
I almost BOUGHT that CD yesterday! For $30 (US) but it didn't say anything as
to wether or not it has the FILES.BBS file or any other sort of Descriptions
file on it! Does anyone know if this CD has such files? :)
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From: SETH KLINE Number: 1797
To: ALL Date: 08/25/93 2:04p
Subj: CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone have a CD-ROM for sale? I would like it cheap but it doesn't
matter.
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From: SETH KLINE Number: 1798
To: ALL Date: 08/25/93 2:06p
Subj: CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
How much do good game CD's cost? Like some good Sierra games like SP4, PQ4 etc?
Please get back to me.
--- Echodor 3.11a
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From: JEFF PATTEN Number: 1799
To: ROB PERELMAN Date: 08/25/93 12:14p
Subj: CD Rom Requirements Refer: NONE
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RP> I am buying a new computer soon with these specs:
RP> 486 DX-33
RP> 130 MEG IDE HD
RP> 4 MB Ram
RP> Now I plan to run OS/2 v2.1 on this system and I am thinking
RP> about a CD-Rom drive and maybe even a sound card. Now my
RP> question is, what kind of CD-Rom drive and adaptors do I need
RP> to get to be compatible with my IDE hard drive and OS/2?
RP> Please help me A.S.A.P. Thanks!
You will need more RAM, at least a total of 8 MB. If you can afford 16 MB,
get it. The hd is a bit on the small side too, you know how those GUI programs
think they have the disk to themselves... ;-)
For a CD-ROM, get a SCSI-2 unit with a Future Domain or Adaptec host
adapter. Drivers for these are included with OS/2, making installation easier.
Jeff
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From: JACK O'NEILL Number: 1800
To: ALASTAIR EDGINGTON Date: 08/27/93 1:04a
Subj: OS/2 and SoundBlaster Pro Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 08-23-1993, ALASTAIR EDGINGTON was overheard mumbeling to ALL about
OS/2 and SoundBlaster Pro,
AE> I've got OS/2 2.1, MultiMedia Program Manager with SoundBlaster
AE> Pro set up and working fine, but i can't get the SoundBlaster CD-ROM
AE> working!!
AE>
AE> I've tried inserting soundblaster's sbpcd.sys (or whateva it's
Alastair,
What you want is either CLIOS2CD.EXE, available from Creative Labs
BBS, or CLICD2.ZIP, avaiable on the IBM support BBS. CLIOS2CD is a
self-extracting archive that contains a device driver (SBPCD2.SYS) and
instructions. It's a beta version, so it may no longer be avaiable.
CLICD2.ZIP is a release version containing an adaptor device driver
(SBCD2.ADD) and instructions.
With either of these you'll have access to data and audio CDs from PM,
WinOS/2, and DOS sessions, and won't need SBPCD.SYS or MSCDEX.
* KWQ/2 1.2a * Windows error #104: Operator fell asleep while waiting.
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From: DERIK MINNICH Number: 1801
To: DOUG DAGGER Date: 08/26/93 5:43p
Subj: CD-ROM's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
$700?!?!?! That is alot of money for one drive, unless you are planning on
getting a Pioneer 6 disk machine :) Anyway, here is the HOTTEST tip I can
give you. You can get an Internal Toshiba 3401 (THE fastest single drive out
on the market right now) for $399 bare bones from CD-ROM Direct. Note this a
bare bones drive, meaning you will have to get a SCSI controller if you don't
have one, which they also sell. This is the lowest price I have found in the
U.S., the ONLY catch is, you must buy C.O.D. which runs like $29. I have a
number around somewhere, (There ad is is Computer Shopper). If you cannot
find it, let me know. Any other questions, let me know here!
Good luck!
Derik Minnich
The Crypt BBS, Carleton, MI (313) 654-9054 (1:2380/210)
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From: SYLV JUMAGA Number: 1802
To: ALL Date: 08/25/93 12:15p
Subj: Canadian CDROM dealers?? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Greetings, all!
I was wondering if there are any *CANADIAN* companies out there that
are selling CD-ROM drives and/or CD's . . . I see all sorts of ads
posted here, but am dismayed when I realize their area codes are in
the U.S. and there is no mention of the ability to ship to Canada,
etc.
Sylv
___
X DeLuxe2/386 1.25 #6475 X df7Uafd:1+Y3_hanks for hanging up the phone, dear.
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From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 1803
To: DAVID SNIDER Date: 08/26/93 9:15a
Subj: sound blaster 16 vs 16ASP Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> And here's the kicker you can get a hold of a daughterboard called
-> the
-> WaveBlaster that can simulate General-midi and the Roland MT-32 and
-> it's compatable with ANYTHING that can use GMIDI or Roland and now
-> you don't have to pay a fortune for some good midi equipment, it
-> retails for $250 more or less, and from what i hear it sounds DAMN
-> good.
You mean there is a daughterboard for the sb16/asp? That is fantastic
don't know if i ever will need it though but if i were a musician/artist
it would be a fantastic deal rather than buying those stand alone midi
keyboards having to buy cartridges and record sound fx's through the mic
of the midi instead through the computer and be able to edit things.
Louis
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From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 1804
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 08/26/93 9:21a
Subj: Police Quest 4 (CD-ROM) Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Sierra's CD-ROMS are ALWAYS different from disk version! The
-> president of the company mentioned something about 'shovelware', that
-> is disk software 'shovled' onto a CD and calling it CD-ROM.
-> KQ6 for instance has an opening sequence about 7 times larger than
-> the disk based version. Also prfessional voices for the characters.
What I like about sierra and dislike about sierra also. For the
likeables sierra does in fact lower their prices by 50% after
6months-year when their sales have dropped so that others can get a
chance to buy it at a low affordable cost just like space quest iv,willy
beamish for around $13 u.s through a mail order company i've seen those
games were when new around $49 u.s. 3 times the price. What I don't
like about sierra is they charge the cd version the exact same price as
the disk version when their making more profit on the cd version instead
of the disk version if you calculate a typical sierra game on disk takes
10 disks thats 30cents each thats $3 american now a cd version would
cost less than $1 now that extra $2 savings if they were to take that
off it would $2 doubled at the distributor level and then doubled again
at the retail level would be almost $10 u.s. so that extra $10 they are
making more profit off the cd version but the good thing though atleast
they have the leeway to lower their prices on the cd rom versions but
less leeway on the diskette versions.
Louis
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From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 1805
To: GEOFF MOEHLE Date: 08/26/93 9:24a
Subj: help! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Hey man write me a letter or something..im being ignored...where do i
-> get fast access time and a 300kb/second transfer rate?...but at a
-> good price!!!!!!im maybe interested in a Texel!! Well what do
-> you...the people...think I should get? any help would be
-> valuable...please write me!!!
For 300kb/sec transfer rate the panasonic 562b is the best for the
buck. Its $249 american texel may run you over $400 u.s. the panasonic
has 300kb/sec transfer rate (of course thats what makes it dual speed),
320ms access time, 64k cache, can be hooked directly to sb 16 without
the need of an interface card taking up a slot. I would of gone for the
mitsumi if this product didn't existed but then i'd have only a
150kb/sec transfer rate, 350ms access time and a 32k cache and not a
morotorized tray.
Louis
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From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 1806
To: DAVID M. WHITE Date: 08/26/93 12:51p
Subj: CD-ROM BUNDLES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> DE> Card, and software bundle such as the Fusion CD 16. I was
-> DE> curious what
-> DE> people think of these bundles and of the hardware included
->
-> I was also looking at the Fusion 16 package, however I found out it
-> is an 800ms drive that is not Kodak ready so have decided against it.
-> If you have a "Software Etc." store near you, they have that package
-> priced at $399.
That is discusting 800ms? Geez you can get a 320ms 300kb/sec transfer
562b panasonic with sound blaster 16 and kodak photo cd access disc for
around the $399 price. Sounds like their trying to sell some people old
technology for the same price as new technology drives.
Louis
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From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 1807
To: JIM FREDERICK Date: 08/26/93 12:55p
Subj: 7TH GUEST... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I'm having problems with 7Th guest. I bought it when it first came
-> out, and played it through. I haven't tried to play it for a while.
-> In the meantime I upgraded from DOS 5 to DOS 6.... now it won't work
-> at all. Has anyone else had this problem? My settings in my config
-> and autoexec are the same, I have even more free memory. What's the
-> problem? I'm open to suggestions..... thanks. Jim.
What error messages do you get when running 7th guest?
Louis
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From: YVES DESJARDINS Number: 1808
To: ALL Date: 08/26/93 5:52p
Subj: Benchmark test for CDROM Refer: NONE
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Hello All!
I'm looking for some type of benchmark test for a CDROM. Any suggestion?
What is the "standard" benchmark test. Also where can I get it?
thanks,
Yves
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From: RACHEL REPSTAD Number: 1809
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 08/26/93 8:47a
Subj: games Refer: NONE
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I also have Laura Bow II and that was a good game. I have The Colonel's Bequest
too. Have you played that? That is a pretty challenging game. I have King's
Quest V but I haven't beaten it. I've had it for about 2 years but it just
doesn't make me want to play. I really liked King's Quest VI. I've beaten Space
Quest 2 a couple of times and I really don't think there is a game that is too
hard... just really challenging. The more challenging it is the more determined
I am to beat it. But if you are having lots of trouble, GET THE CHEAT SHEET!
I'm sure if you look around hard enough you will find one. Or you could just
call the Sierra board and edit that and just print it out. That's where most of
today's cheat sheets come from today. Anyway, I have Aces of the Pacific and I
want Red Baron. Dan Hatterick, y'know the Sysop of this board is really in
flying simulations. I really want Space quest 5. I've beaten all of the others
and I would like to continue to do that. I just LOVE a good adventure!
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From: ERIC HSIAO Number: 1810
To: ANDRE QUEREE Date: 08/26/93 9:04p
Subj: 16 bit cards Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Who cares if it isn't compatible with the SB16. The SB16 came out after the
PAS-16 and the PAS-16 has the upperhand for 16-bit sound. There aren't any
games that support the SB16 but not the PAS-16. It's not a limiting factor at
all. The PAS-16 is still a great card.
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From: VICTORIA GILLIAM Number: 1811
To: LAURENCE ALLEN Date: 08/26/93 5:12p
Subj: OS/2 2.1 Refer: NONE
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RP > 486 DX-33
RP > 130 MEG IDE HD
RP > Both Floppies
RP > 4 MB Ram
RP > SVGA Monitor and card
RP >
RP > Now I plan to run OS/2 v2.1 on this system and I am thinking about
RP > a CD-Rom drive and maybe even a sound card. Now my question is,
RP > kind of CD-Rom drive and adaptors do I need to get to be
RP > compatible IDE hard drive and OS/2? Please help me A.S.A.P.
RP > Thanks!
LA} Try the Texel CD Rom Drive and a Trantor T130 SCSI-2 Controler
LA} card. The Sound Blaster also works great.
RP,
If you only have 4megs of RAM, I can tell you for a fact that OS/2
will run SLOWLY...remember, it says MINIMUM 4 megs. Also, for a good
Multimedia kit, I suggest the FUSION 16 kit from MediaVision. It
includes the Pro-Audio Spectrum 16 sound card and a Sony CDROM
(internal)...the external kit (16E) has an NEC CDROM. Both are OS/2
compatible (but you will need a special driver from MediaVision to
install/utilize the CDROM with OS/2).
(Any other
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From: NIRAV SHETH Number: 1812
To: TIM HELTON Date: 08/26/93 7:33p
Subj: Disk needed Refer: NONE
Read: 08/28/93 10:04p Private: No
Try getting Ecoquest from sierra-on-line.... I got it for $50....
Thanks...
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From: PETER DETTELIS Number: 1813
To: TERRY WOODWARD Date: 08/22/93 7:29p
Subj: new rules Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have no disagreement with the rules decision. CD-ROM discs have a variety of
information to offer and limiting discussion on one or more areas some people
might find offensive is fine. It's up to the moderator and I'm sure everyone
will abide. I have my opinion about the subject but I respect yours too.
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From: BRENT LYNCH Number: 1814
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 08/25/93 6:59p
Subj: Re: Cd-rom Games Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
::To: Brent Lynch From: Ashwin Bihari Subj: Re: Cd-rom Games ::
AB> Hey Brent, I thought about buying Wing Commander II dulxe but when I
AB> could not find it in the place I went to , I instead got 7TH GUEST, I
AB> think I made a good choice in buying 7th guest instaed of WIng
AB> Commander, and since I did that I cannot buy another game for a while,
AB> anyway I sure want to get Day of the Tentacle, about KIng's Quest, I
Some other recent CDROM games are:
Space Shuttle:A SVGA edutainment/space shuttle sim.
Lord of the Rings: Interplay's classic RPG with video clips from the animated
films, and voice included
Return of the Phantom: Same as Disk version, except saves about 20+ megs
of space on the old HD
Dune: Oft-delayed Virgin game, havent played it, but it looks mighty
impressive with film clips from the movie.
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From: LISA HUTTER Number: 1815
To: ALL Date: 08/25/93 9:29p
Subj: My New cd-rom! help Refer: NONE
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Hi All,
I've just recently installed a panisonic CD-Rom and I'm not sure how to
get the most out of it...I thought that I'd be able to play musical CD's
while working in Windows, etc...Of course this isn't the only reason I
made this purchase but I'd thought it would be a fun feature.
Can anyone give me some advice as to how to make the most of my new
"toy"?
Also, what are some good programs out there....
Any help would be greatly appreciated :)
Bye for now, Lisa
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From: DON BOSMAN Number: 1816
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/24/93 11:23p
Subj: Cdrom Systems Refer: NONE
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BO>Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $799.00 Pioneer DMR604X Bare -$1199.
BO>Boris Osadciw
I always figure a newcomer should keep his mouth shut for a while before
posting. So after reading several hundred posts, I have a few questions.
What can you tell me, and others newbies, about the Pioneer bare drives
listed above? Specifically, access time, seek time, transfer rates, can
they fit in a 5.25 in slot, what kind of interface card is required,
etc. How might the above compare to a couple or six Panasonic 562's on
a file server?
Thanks.
If anyone else cares to comment, please do, positive or negative.
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From: DON BOSMAN Number: 1817
To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 11:53p
Subj: cr562, 563, info wanted Refer: NONE
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Hello all.
I have been reading here for a while and have a few questions.
The Panasonic CR562b seems to be the drive of choice.
What is the difference between it and the 563?
Is there a difference between the 562 and the 562b?
I have a SB Pro 16, used to have the drive (522 I think) that came in
the Creative Labs kit. Can the 562x just plug and play using the same
settings that came with the kit's setup?
Can two or more 562's be daisy chained on the SB Pro 16?
If you have answers to anything I missed, please forward them.
Thanks to all in advance.
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From: SEAN EAGAN Number: 1818
To: ALL Date: 08/27/93 12:12a
Subj: *Wanted Your DEAD CD-ROMS!!! Refer: NONE
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* Original Area: FOR-SALE
* Original To : All (1:157/619)
WANTED!
Your DEAD CD-ROM Drives!
I am Looking for TOSHIBA XM-3201B's and NEC's ONLY!
I want them! They are just sitting around gathering dust.
Looking For Toshiba and NEC!
I WANT THEM! Sell them to me!
Call me and we'll discuss a fair price or Reply here!
Might as well make some money on them!
Sean Eagan
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 1819
To: ALL Date: 08/26/93 11:19p
Subj: OS/2 CD Refer: NONE
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==================== OS2 ON CD For Only $65.00 ? ====================
IN STOCK
Until Septemeber 14, 1993 you can purchase the complete OS/2 v2.21
package, which offer's you the installation disks, cd, manuals and
other special discounts for only $65.00!
Here's how it works, purchase OS/2 v 2.21 for $95.00 and mail in the
rebate coupon to IBM and get a $30. rebate direct from them, bottom
line is the new version of OS/2 is yours for only $65.
Call NOW and get your copy today! ORDER LINE ONLY 800-243-0517
Boris Osadciw
... If you're not the lead dog, everything looks the same!
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From: GARY JOHNSON Number: 1820
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 08/25/93 8:08p
Subj: CD-ROM GAMES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Sorry Ashwin, I think your message got to the wrong person - I don't know
anything about this. Maybe it's a common name - I'm not at all surprised
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From: TONY STOTT Number: 1821
To: CARLOS BENITZ Date: 08/26/93 9:04a
Subj: Re: Cd-rom Games Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Carlos, the Sound Canvas is external, connected through a Midiman MM401 midi
interface card.
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From: POE LIM Number: 1822
To: NITIN N. GUPTA Date: 08/26/93 11:38p
Subj: Pas16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Nitin,
On Aug 22 01:04 in a msg to Poe Lim, Nitin N. Gupta of 1:324/295 wrote:
> Sorry, but I am not familiar with os/2. Is it better than win3.1 or
> win NT -!- FMail 0.94
NT is only now shipping (if you can find it, as they are extremely rare at
present). As for Win 3.1.....
OS/2 let's you run Win 3.1 apps, and then pre-emptively multitasks then
seemlessly on the WPS. But this isn't the OS/2 echo, so I had better not go too
far.
Cheers,
Poe
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From: POE LIM Number: 1823
To: SUNNY LEUNG Date: 08/26/93 11:40p
Subj: Panasonic 562/563 Refer: NONE
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Hello Sunny,
On Aug 22 11:19 in a msg to All, Sunny Leung of 3:712/401 wrote:
> of upgrading to the new Panasonic double speed drive. Does anyone in
> Australia supply this drive, and what would be the price?
About Aust$450 inc tax.
> BTW, what's the difference between the 562 and 563?
563 is the SB version, the 562 is the general version.
Cheers,
Poe
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From: VICKI CRAWFORD Number: 1824
To: TONY VALUIKAS Date: 08/26/93 6:46a
Subj: MultiLine/CDROM/DV/HELP!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a msg on <Aug 15, 1993>, Tony Valuikas wrote to All:
TV> Can anyone help me on this?
TV> I keep getting CRC errors on all files download from the CDROM.
TV> With one Node up everything works but with more than one Node
TV> I get errors.
The problem is either the access speed of the CD rom or your comms port chips.
What speed does the CD drive do?
Do you have 16550 uart chips in your computer because as soon as you multi-task
you will need them. The CRC errors tends to show the comms port chips are not
high-speed ones.
Vicki
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From: ANDRE QUEREE Number: 1825
To: RICK BYERS Date: 08/27/93 1:55a
Subj: Audio CDs on CD-ROMs Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Rick Byers to All <=-
RB> Does anyone know where I can get some good text files or a
RB> book that would tell me how I can Instruct the CD-ROM drive to play an
RB> audio CD? I have programs that will do it but I'd like to expand on
RB> these and have had troubles telling MSCDEX to play it. Well thanks
RB> alot, Rick Byers
Hi Rick!
The Microsoft Windows Multimedia books (from Microsoft Press) explain how to
program the CD for CD-Audio under MS Windows. Not sure about any books for
DOS though!
Catch ya' later!
Andre
... Al, I just leaped into a tagline. What does Ziggy have to say?
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From: GREG MCDONELL Number: 1826
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/26/93 10:38a
Subj: CD LIQUIDATION! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Whilst on a recent visit to Earth Mike Shannon spake thusly to All
MS> STARVECTOR CD-ROM LIQUIDATION SPECIALS!
MS> Shareware...$22 Clipart Heaven...$19 5Star Prem. Windows.$27
MS> Otherware I...$17 Jedi Collection..$39 History of Jazz.$45
MS> Hacker Chronicles...$24 Reel Clips..$35 Kodak Photo CD.$18
MS> STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892
Mike, I was wondering about this Kodak Photo CD ... is it editing
tools, a database utility or what?? I may need it if Digital Cameras
ever reduce in price down to my price range 8-)
Also, in my recent order to you ( and thanks for prompt service on
the last couple of orders, BTW ) I included a request for Return
to Zork, which is supposed to be out soon. You may care to let myself
and others know via this echo when this title, and also the new Tex
Murphy and Labyrinth CDs, become available. I'm sure there are a lot
of other 35 year old fathers out there still playing games <G>.
Cheers, Greg
... When you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn?
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From: SCOTT GOLBY Number: 1827
To: ALASTAIR EDGINGTON Date: 08/25/93 5:00p
Subj: OS/2 and SoundBlaster Pr Refer: NONE
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Hi there,
AE> I've tried inserting soundblaster's sbpcd.sys (or whateva
AE> it's called) in os/2's config.sys. This works fine, and
AE> the CD is accessed and all is fine. I just can't figure
AE> out where to get the cd-rom extensions driver from!!
AE> mscdex won't work. it comes up with incorrect dos version.
Yeah I put the sbpcd2.sys in the startup, and didn't get the
CD-ROM working either. I went looking for the CDFS.IFS file which I
also added to the config.sys under OS/2 2.0 to get the CD working, and I
couldn't find it!
What I did was get the CDFS.IFS file off a OS/2 2.0 disks (on
one of the first couple) and put it onto my 2.1 partition and into the
config.sys like this. IFS=H:\CDFS.IFS /Q
Seems to work here. I have been told there is a new SB-Pro
CD-ROM driver for OS/2 2.1 but I have yet to see it.
'C' ya... Scott Golby
sgolby@st.nepean.uws.edu.au
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From: JOHN ROBERTSON Number: 1828
To: ERIC HSIAO Date: 08/26/93 10:17p
Subj: Speedcache & disc caddies Refer: NONE
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Hi, Eric! RE your msg...
EH> The caddies I have is clear above the circular part of
EH> the disc and opaque on the outer corners. The bottom
EH> of the caddy says Made in the USA, so it's not some
EH> cheap Taiwanese copy...overall the caddy looks pretty
Fasinating:-) Actually check this out..is the frosting a smooth finish or is it
lumpy or a bump between the smooth surface and the frosting. The par tyou are
saying is opaque , if it's part of the lid, should actually be frosted,
something like a lightly sanded surface. Also the fact that they say "Made in
USA" doesn't mean anything, as the copies (perhaps from Hong Kong) wouldn't
miss that now would they? Read up on the copy business in any trade journal on
ANY product, you'll find it rampant. However the going wholesale price on
caddies from reputable distributors, such as Walnut Creek is around $4.50 US so
I'm not sure how anyone can sell caddies at "$4-$5" at swap meets that are NOT
copies. Ttloo...
:-#
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1829
To: ALL Date: 08/27/93 1:26a
Subj: $9 CD SPECIALS Refer: NONE
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$9 CD'S
-----------
Phoenix 3.0 WIN/OS2 Windoware Super Games for Windows
Powerpak Gold 3 Phethean's Ham Radio 3.0 Super Games for DOS
ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p International orders welcomed.
CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 1830
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 08/26/93 8:48a
Subj: Re: CADDY-O-RAMA Refer: NONE
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BF> > Note. All of the high end high-performance drives
BF> intended for commercial
BF> >or heavy-duty service use caddys.
BF> Not any more - Panasonic's recent offerings include
BF> double-speed drives that
BF> are caddyless.
BF> >I wouldn't consider using a caddyless for my BBS
BF> I refuse to put up with those caddy-type single-disc monstrosities. I can
This makes no sense at all. Caddies are a lot more CONVENIENT than
non-caddy units. With a caddyless CD, one must get the old case, unload the
CD, put it in the case, get the new CD, remove it from its case, put it in the
carrier, and close the door, all the while exposing the CDs to dust, dirt,
fingerprints, scratches, and the odd drop on the floor. With caddies, one
simply removes the old caddy and pops in the new one. Less muss, less fuss,
and no potential damage to the CD.
BF> BARELY tolerate caddies on multi-disc changers, as there
BF> IS no other viable
Once again, the caddy is MUCH more convenient, as well as more durable,
plus one can change an entire SUITE of software at once. The only drawback is
that the entire suite must be changed, not easily allowing mix-and-match
suites.
Les
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 1831
To: MARK WOMACK Date: 08/26/93 9:02a
Subj: Re: Cd-rom Help! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MW> You're exactly right. QEMM "optimize" consistently gave me less memory
MW> when it had to deal with the CD driver. For example, it would get
MW> finished and display a message saying, "you have 98K less now than when
MW> you started." I thought my eyes were playing tricks on me! I can't
MW> really do it on my own because it would be purely taking stabbs in the
MW> dark.
It's not that difficult.
MW> I have 4 major drivers I need to have: STACKER 48k, MTMCDE.SYS,
MW> MCDEX.EXE 144K (64 BUFFERS)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Use the /E switch to utilize expanded memory buffers.
MW> and PC-CACHE 1M.
Likewise, you should be (have to be, actually) using EMMS or XMS
(preferably XMS) for your cache. The driver itself only takes up a few dozen
K.
MW> It can't load all four
MW> of these high no matter what order they're in. I just can't understand
MW> that because I have 4 Megs of ram.
None of which DOS can use. If you are going to use a crippled kludge
of an OS, you are going to have to expect some limitations. Nonetheless, you
should be able to load all four of these applications high without any trouble.
MW> I guess there's a few things I don't
MW> know about memory. I always thought that you could load stuff high
MW> until you ran out of extended or expanded memory but I guess that's
MW> not true.
It's not even close. Upper memory (or UMB) is simply that fragmented
region created by the presence of the video card. Executable code cannot
reside in non contiguous memory regions, so DOS cannot for practical purposes
use the memory between the start of your first BIOS code (usually A000, A800,
or B000, and usually the video BIOS) and the end of its address limit, 1M.
(Actually, DOS COULD use that region, but the maximum application size would be
limited to about 128K, as opposed to 600K+ when it uses the lower memory.)
Executable code CAN be placed in that region, however, as long as the region is
big enough to hold all the active code. That makes it ideal for loading TSRs
and device drivers. Extended memory is memory above the DOS/XT limit of 1M. A
24 or 32 bit CPU can address that memory, but DOS, being 20 bit, cannot. One
slight exception: because of the 16/20 bit segmented memory model kludge that
allows a fundamentally 16 bit OS to access a 20 bit memory space, there is a
trick that can allow DOS to access 1M + 64K - 16bytes of memory, if it is
available. Because of this, 286 and 386 machines can allow DOS to load code
smaller than 64K into the High Memory Area (HMA). DOS 5 & 6 both can take
advantage of this to load the kernal into high memory. The remainder of your
device drivers can be loaded into UMB's (NOT the High Memory Area). The rest
of extended memory is not unaccessable to DOS. EMS isn't even real memory, it
is virtual memory.
Les
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 1832
To: DON KULHA Date: 08/26/93 9:01p
Subj: Re: CDROM Slows BBS Refer: NONE
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JH> I don't run the Pioneer DRM-600 drive here, but I
JH> do have your problem. I run 3 lines with Lantasti
JH> net. The problem seems to me to be when a request
JH> is made from a workstation it must be met before
JH> going on to another node's request.
JH> That may or may not be the problem, since I don't
JH> <g>know a lot about networking ..
JH> I don't know any way around it, I have tried
JH> everything I can think of. Wait until a cdrom
JH> can't find a file GEEEEZ! the whole darn board
JH> (all nodes) will set and wait for ever!
DK> Exactly my experience. I was running 7 individual
DK> CD's (Hitachi 3500) on a non-dedicated server which ran
DK> one line (last in rotation) of our 4 lines. The other BBS
DK> machine runs a floppy (to boot onto the LAN), 3 Intel
DK> satisfaxion 400's, QEMM/DV, and 3 BBS sessions on a
DK> 486/SLC2/66 (IBM planar) using AI4.1 NOS and ethernet.
DK> When I ran Lantastic the system was commonly getting hung
The best network solution I have found for CD-ROM drives is a CD-ROM
network called CD-SHARE. Note that this network runs completely independently
of your regular network, and that machines which are not regular servers on the
network can be set up as CD-ROM servers. The software comes with excellent
documentation that is fairly technically in-depth. However, the interface is
so easy and intuitive to set up, you will probably not have to read the docs
(do it anyway, but don't be discouraged by how complicated the docs are). The
software comes with a CD-ROM cache that seems to work very well indeed, and it
is able to network softwares (like Grolier's and Compton's) that are
deliberately designed NOT to work with non-local CD-ROM drives. This software
is MUCH faster and much less buggy than Lantastic at networking the CD-ROM
drives. Note also that the network does not even have to be loaded on the
machine(s) acting as a CD-server(s). The NETBIOS drivers must be loaded, but
no network requestor, redirector, or server software need be loaded on the
CD-server, if not required
The shareware version supports up to 32 drives, but only one user and
one task. The commercial/registered version supports several users and a large
number of tasks. The software is available on the Artisoft BBS, and the
company can be reached as:
Digital Solutions Pty. Ltd.
P.O. Box 178
Margate
QLD, Australia. 4019
Ph. 07 8831851 Intl. 617 8831852
Fax 07 2831217 Intl. 617 2831217
Les
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 1833
To: NIGEL ZETT Date: 08/26/93 9:37p
Subj: Re: Explain Sound Cards to me. Refer: NONE
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NZ> No, I'm not as stupid as the title suggests. What I'm
NZ> confused about is what are the MAJOR differences between
NZ> the (seemingly) 1000+ brands of sound cards.
NZ>
NZ> I know that some have SCSI or proprietary interfaces for
NZ> CD-ROM,
Right. Personally, I'm using an Adaptec 1742 EISA SCSI-2 adapter that
supports 10MBPS synchronous transfers and SCSI disconnect. I have a Pro Audio
Spectrum 16 sound card with a SCSI interface, but guess how many drives are
attached to the PAS? Nonetheless, the SCSI interface can save a slot.
NZ> 16-64 channel 'Multi-port' MIDI, and I even understand
NZ> that some samplein mono and some in stereo, some with
NZ> 'lousy' sample rates and some with CD quality (although
NZ> I've yet to see one that actually samples at REAL CD
NZ> sample rates (ie 38.1KHz).
Are you certain about the sample rate for CD-audio? I don't have a
tech sheet handy, but the published specs for CD drives is 20KHz bandwidth,
which (if correct) requires a minimum sample rate of 40KHz to prevent aliasing.
In any case, the PAS-16 can do 44.1KHz (which is the number that sticks in my
head for the standard CD sample rate). Dynamic range and S/N, however, are
greatly reduced from CD standards; only(!) 75dB from synthesized audio and 85dB
from sampled audio. Since both of these well exceed the noise figures and
dynamic range of cassette tapes or standard phonographic vinyl, they should
provide few problems for the computer jockey. They would be unacceptable for a
recording studio, of course.
NZ> So with all that (plus those that have SVGA all on one
NZ> card), what are the REAL DIFFERENCES and types in each
NZ> category of card, and which brabd is the best value in
NZ> each category, and who on this Echo has the cheapest prices...
All things considered, I believe the PAS-16 to be the best buy in
general. It offers extended interrupts and 16 bit DMA, full Sound Blaster
support (which I have disabled because of IRQ conflicts), and good
compatibility with OS/2. Both the game port and the SCSI port are quite
usable, if required.
Les
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From: ROY COCHRUN Number: 1834
To: MANESH RAMA Date: 08/27/93 5:36a
Subj: Re: Encyclopedia's Refer: NONE
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You> how good is a grolliers
...
I've heard it is better than Compton's in terms of audience it is aimed
at. Grolliers is aimed at high school students. Comptons is aimed at
junior high school students. You should be able to get an older
Grolliers on the Software Toolworks label for the price you are
interested in. More recent ones are available under $100.00 at
computer shows (still my favorite place to shop).
...
When I started out buying discs, I felt perhaps I was missing something
buying the cheaper disk at the show. After all, the discs came in
boxes in the computer stores. Turns out, after I bought a few "in the
boxes" that you are paying about $10.00 to $100.00 (!!!!) for the box.
There's nothing else in it!
--regards, Roy Cochrun
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From: SAM JONES Number: 1835
To: NICK FUNK Date: 08/27/93 3:23p
Subj: Panasonic 562 & Pro Studio 16 Refer: NONE
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NF> Does anyone know if the new ProAudio Studio 16 by MediaVision SCSI port
NF> will work with the Panasonic CR-562 double speed drive. An if so are
NF> the drivers included with the sound card.
No it won't work with the PAS's interface, but you can pick up a CL563
Ommni Cd-Upgrade Kit (the same drive as the 562-b) that consists of the drive,
interface card, and Photostyler CD software for $329 at Babbage's and probaly a
bit less via mail order.
Sam
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From: JON SHEARIN Number: 1836
To: GEOFF MOEHLE Date: 08/26/93 9:27p
Subj: HELP! Refer: NONE
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> where do i get fast access time and a 300kb/second transfer rate?...but at
> a good price!!!!!!im maybe interested in a Texel!! Well what do
> you...the people...think I should get?
Geoff,
After seeing both the Texel and the Toshiba in action, I have to
recommend the Toshiba. Spend the little bit of extra cash and get the best.
Remember, "The cheapest is not always the best."
Later,
JS.
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 1837
To: JAMES ZMIJEWSKI Date: 08/28/93 10:23p
Subj: Avi file Refer: 4172
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-> I'm still loking for a disk with avi files on it. If it was w
Shareware Studio III will have several .AVI files....
We're also working on an all original & BBS ready .AVI disc. I got some
more great footage this week - alligators at the Okefenokee swamp! On
Thursday I floated about 5 miles into the swamp in a flat bottom boat
and got some great videos... On at least 50 occasions I was within 10
feet of 15 foot alligators - creatures that would eat me if they had
their druthers. This will be on the disc along with the other original
material we've accumulated...
tim
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 1838
To: RANDY RASA Date: 08/28/93 10:23p
Subj: Shareware for CD's Refer: 4240
Read: NO Private: No
-> To: All Shareware CDROM Publishers
->
-> If you are interested in receiving shareware direct from the author,
-> please post an address where you'd like a disk to be sent, or a BBS
-> phone number where uploads can be posted.
We do the Shareware Studio series... Send a file attach message to
1:133/515 (BBS # 404-491-1405) or mail to:
Data Express, Inc.
6799 Windfaire Dr.
Norcross, GA 30093
Had we did this a week ago, we could have gotten it on Studio III :(
tim
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From: GEOFF MOEHLE Number: 1839
To: ALL Date: 08/25/93 5:28p
Subj: panasonic Refer: NONE
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Hello!!!!!!! I was thinking about buying a double speed CD-ROM from
panasonic...however I was wondering about the 350 milisecond access time...is
that REAL slow?????? Would that cause problems???/ The transfer rate is a
300mb/second...and I was wondering on how that might be!!!!!!!! Anyone who can
tell me anything about my questions would be greatfully helpful!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks!!!! Geoff Moehle!
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 1840
To: VICTOR ZDANOWICZ Date: 08/26/93 7:19a
Subj: Re: Sony CD-ROM + 16ASP Refer: NONE
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> Could anyone tell me if it is possible to use a Sony CDU561 drive (double
> spin) with a 16ASP?.... Also.. Is this a good idea.. or should I go for
> the Creative CR1200 kit with 8CD's and double-spin.. I am worried about
> the quality of the CD-ROM in the Creative Kit... and I belive that SONY
> would be much better...?...Is this true???????
Hi Victor,
I will recommend you to go with Panasonic 562B with the mentioned sound card.
TTYL
GroupWare
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 1841
To: ALL Date: 08/26/93 7:26a
Subj: Cica Windows Update Refer: NONE
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CICA Windows CD-ROM disk had been updated and now available from
GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400 1-800-373-0628
1-206-473-1634 FAX 1-800-277-5179 FAX
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From: JUAN-PEDRO MINON Number: 1842
To: JORGE GUTIERREZ Date: 08/20/93 12:00a
Subj: Contactar Refer: NONE
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Hola Jorge.
Me llamo Juan Pedro Minon y te escribo para ver si me puedes ayudar.
Te he elegido a tí principalmente por que teòricamente tienes que hablar
español y podremos, o por lo menos yo, entendernos mejor.
Y ahora al caso. Estoy buscando lo que por aquí se conoce como un
BROKER, es decir , una persona que localiza material informático para otra
en nombre de una empresa, a cambio de unos honorarios, sueldo, porcentaje o
cualquiera que sea la forma de pago por sus servicios.
Mis intereses están centrados básicamente en:
Placas madre.
Controladoras multi I/O.
Memorias de 1 Mb a 70 ns.
Discos Duros
Tarjetas gráficas
Unidades de CD-ROM
Software en CD-ROM (cualquiera que sea su función)
Actualmente me interesa obtener información y precios sobre una
unidad CD-ROM de lectura/escritura, como por ejemplo el modelo
KODAK PCD WRITER 200 o PHILIPS CDD-521/10 con todos sus accesorios incluyendo
el software.
Si puedes ayudarme podemos llegar a acuerdos, si no gracias por
escucharme.
Nombre de mi empresa:
SIMULATOR SOFT INFORMATICA
Calle Callao de Lima 36, Bajo izquierda
Santa Cruz de Tenerife - C.P. 38002
ISLAS CANARIAS - ESPAÑA
Teléfono: +34-22-291552
Fidonet: 2:340/13.7
Un saludo
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From: JUAN-PEDRO MINON Number: 1843
To: ALL Date: 08/20/93 12:00a
Subj: CD-ROM WRITER Refer: NONE
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Helo, all.
I am looking for a CD-ROM writer (Kodak PCD Writer 200 or
Philips CDD 521/10).
Please reply to me with price, capatibilites, software and
specifications.
Thanks,
Juan Pedro-Fidonet 2:340/13.7
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From: TODD OSTRER Number: 1844
To: ALL Date: 08/26/93 4:03a
Subj: cd's for sale Refer: NONE
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DEALER CD-ROMs
MINIMUM ORDER IS 5 CD-ROMs (can mix). (Good Volume Discounts)
Visa, MC, AmEx, Discover,
Money Order.
Todd Ostrer
2473 S.E. 135th
Portland, Or. 97233
(503)257-7255 24 hrs / 7 days
(503)257-7264 (BBS) 14.4v32
ADULT
Adult Palate (PC or Mac)........... 28
Adult Reference Library............ 25
After Dark Trilogy................. 40
All Beauties....................... 29
Amateur Models..................... 29
Animation Fantasies Vol 1 or 2..... 28
Asian Ladies....................... 29
Busty Babes........................ 29
Deep Throat........................ 49
Digital Dancing.................... 49
Digital Dreams..................... 30
Dirty Talk......................... 45
Ecstasy Hot Pics................... 29
Erotic Encounters.................. 29
Erotic Encounters 2................ 29
FAO (3 disk set)................... 65
Foxes.............................. 27
Gay World 1........................ 30
Gay World 2........................ 30
GBL (gay, bi-sexual, lesbian)...... 30
Giffy Gold......................... 28
Glamour Girls 1943................. 40
Hidden Obsessions.................. 43
Hot Hunks..(gay)................... 30
House of Sleeping Beauties (movie). 45
Island Girls....................... 24
Lovely Ladies II................... 28
Manpower (gay)..................... 30
Moving Fantasies (194 movies)...... 35
My First Time (2 CDs).............. 43
My Private Collection 1 or 2....... 28
Mystique of the Orient............. 43
Night Watch Interactive............ 45
Nix Pix Hot Pix 1.................. 55
Nix Pix Hot Pix 2, 3, 4 or 5....... 26
PC Pix 1, 2 or 3................... 28
Physical Therapy (XXX-Extreme)..... 26
Pixure ROM 1, 2 or 3............... 30
Pixure ROM Triple Exposure (3 CDs). 85
Pork-Ware 1........................ 28
Pork-Ware 2........................ 29
Private Pictures................... 29
RimFire Pacific.................... 43
Seedy Rom 1 thru 6 (each).......... 29
Seedy Rom 6 pack...................150
Seedy Rom 7th Heaven............... 30
Seedy Rom Movie Disk #1............ 33
Sexxcapades, The Movie............. 47
Smutware........................... 28
So Much Stareware.................. 28
Southern Beauties.................. 32
Storm 1............................ 26
Storm 1, 2 & 3..................... 72
Storm 2............................ 26
Storm 3............................ 26
Swimware 1993...................... 29
Swimware & More.................... 28
Visual Fantasies................... 28
Volcano............................ 27
Wicked............................. 55
Women of Venus (bathing suits)..... 28
ART & GRAPHICS
--------------
Clip Art Galore.................... 30
Clip Art Goliath................... 22
Clip Art Heaven.................... 30
Corel Upgrade to ver 3, CD included150
DTP Dream Disk (clip art,fonts,book 50
Gifs Galore........................ 25
Just Fonts v1...................... 33
Library of Art: Europe, America.... 65
Mother Earth....................... 33
Publish It Ver. 2.................. 30
Publisher's Paradise............... 33
So Much Screenware................. 33
Too Many Fonts..................... 22
Wild Places (with sound)........... 36
World View (with sound)........... 36
BUSINESS
--------
Amer Business Phone Book '92....... 26
Britannica Select Software......... 30
Business Master.................... 28
Marketing Master................... 30
Pro Phone '92 (3 CDs).............. 50
Pro Phone '93 (7 CDs)..............140
Pro Phone Business '93............. 43
EDUCATION
---------
Aesop's Fables..................... 30
Animals of the San Diego Zoo....... 26
Animals of the San Diego Zoo (MPC). 28
Arthur's Teacher Trouble........... 50
Barney Bear Goes to School......... 28
Beauty & the Beast................. 30
Beethoven, multimedia.............. 60
Best of Both Worlds (PC Globe)..... 50
Birds by Audobon, multimedia....... 33
Britannica Family Choice........... 30
CD Menu & Music Player............. 23
Carmen San Diego deluxe............ 36
Classic Coll(Mam,Birds,Holmes,Shake 55
Education Master................... 26
Great Cities of the World v 1 or 2 30
Great Wonders of the World......... 40
Interactive Storytime 1 or 2....... 36
Jazz, a multimedia history......... 70
Just Grandma & Me.................. 48
MacMillan Dictionary for Children.. 40
Mammals by Audobon................. 30
Mammals, National Geographic....... 30
Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing........ 30
Mixed-Up Mother Goose.............. 28
Monarch Notes...................... 66
Musical Instruments, Microsoft..... 60
Peter & The Wolf................... 30
Presidents Started with George..... 80
Putt Putt Joins the Parade......... 47
Sleeping Beauty.................... 42
Talking Classic Tales.............. 36
Talking Jungle Safari.............. 36
Talking Schoolhouse................ 36
GAMES
-----
7th Guest (2 CDs).................. 48
Battlechess Enhanced............... 58
Battlechess Multimedia............. 30
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From: TODD OSTRER Number: 1845
To: ALL Date: 08/26/93 4:03a
Subj: cd's for sale Refer: NONE
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Chessmaster 3000................... 30
Deathstar.......................... 22
Game Master........................ 26
Game Pak I, Toolworks.............. 23
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From: ALAN WILLIAMS Number: 1846
To: DIANA KIRKSEY Date: 08/23/93 9:18p
Subj: CD-ROM HELP! Refer: NONE
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-> >For the life of me, I can't get the .SYS file to load in high
-> memory. >I use QEMM but even went as far as to install 386MAX on my
-> system. >Neither will let me load the file high - both lock up my
-> system when >they boot. I've rebooted about 500 times over this and
-> just gave up. >Anyone else not able to load the .SYS file high?
-> I've been having problem's trying to use QEMM too.The problems
-> actually started when I installed my correct Video Card on
-> Windows(Trident 256c),since then whenever I try to load Qemm,it says
-> that Windows can't load the video driver in B000.So
-> unfortunately,right now anyway,I'm just having to use Windows
-> Himem.sys,which leave's me with only 552k conventional memory(I have
-> 4 megs on board). Does anyone have any suggestions? I tried excluding
-> the B000,but it still did the same thing.
I haven't seen the entire thread of this conversation, so this is just a
shot in the dark..... Have you run the Quarterdeck provided utility
(believe its called QWINFIX or something like that)? That will tell
windows to accept QEMM versus Himem.sys/EMM386.EXE as the memory
manager.
What is the .SYS file that you're having a hard time loading high?
Cheers,
Al
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From: ALAN WILLIAMS Number: 1847
To: ALL Date: 08/23/93 9:18p
Subj: CD-ROM PROGRAM WANTED Refer: NONE
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Anyone selling "Shadow President" on CD-ROM?
If so, please give me a mailing address and amount so I can send you and
order. Shipping will be via U.S. Snailmail.... thanks.
Al
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From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 1848
To: DARRELL CRONE Date: 08/22/93 9:21a
Subj: Re: test Refer: NONE
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To: Darrell
By: Giuliano Maciocci Jr.
On: Sunday August 22 1993 at 09:21
>> this is a test if you recieve this please send me a reply...
>> Thanks
>> Darrell
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From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 1849
To: WEE YUNG Date: 08/22/93 11:22a
Subj: Re: CDROM forsale Refer: NONE
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To: Wee
By: Giuliano Maciocci Jr.
On: Sunday August 22 1993 at 09:22
Sunday August 08 1993, Wee Yung tells Janusz Surowka:
WY> CD-ROM Panasonic 522B for SB Pro 380ms w/caddy.................$195.
WY> CD-ROM Panasonic 562B 320ms w/contlr caddyless 300k/s 64kcache.$279.
WY> Magnetic Shieded Multimedia Stereo Speaker system $15
WY> MIDI cable for any sound card with Joystick port...............$19.
WY> Price does not included shipping.
WY> Call 310-602-2076 8AM-12PM, 6PM-9PM PST or mail order payable to: TRUC
WY> 16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723. Accept money order, COD $5extra
Sorry to barge in, but that Pan. 562B seems EXACTLY the same as a NEC I saw
advertised some time ago, price included. Is it the same? Could you PLEASE,
PLEEEEEEAAASSSEE tell me all there is to know about that specific drive and how
it goes with a Sound Blaster Pro? THANX!!!!
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From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 1850
To: PETE MURRAY Date: 08/22/93 9:55a
Subj: Re: Sound Blaster's CD ROM Refer: NONE
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To: Pete
By: Giuliano Maciocci Jr.
On: Sunday August 22 1993 at 09:55
Thursday August 12 1993, Pete Murray tells All:
PM> Yo All,
PM> Has anyone heard about the new Sound Blaster CD ROM, MPC2, to
PM> be put out in about three weeks for only $200 RETAIL???? I heard this
PM> from a salesman at Egghead's and I have heard none other about it.
Yo 2u2, Isn't this CD-ROM the Panasonic CR562B, 320ms 300ks 64K cache...?
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From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 1851
To: ALLEN BURLESON Date: 08/22/93 10:04a
Subj: RE: WILLIE BEAMISH CD Refer: NONE
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To: Allen
By: Giuliano Maciocci Jr.
On: Sunday August 22 1993 at 10:04
Thursday August 12 1993, Allen Burleson tells Sam Fertitta:
AB> Hi Sam,
AB> Thanks for the mini-review. Maybe that's part of the reason the
AB> computer fairs have it for $18. Speaking of the price, I noticed
AB> "Space Quest 4" is in the same price range. You know if that's decent?
AB> Either way, I think both cd's would be a good buy.
AB> Allen
Sorry to barge in, but I have to say this: SQ4 was one of the best and
certainly most challenging games I've EVER played, and I've finished A LOT!!
The graphics are very good, the sound (all I know is SB) is good, and the game
has a lot of originality, like you travel in time and end up in SQ1!! Buy it
eyes closed, and if you need any hints just ask. You should also consider SQ5,
which is also pretty darn good. Hope this helps you in your quest! :-)
Bye!
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From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 1852
To: MARK WOMACK Date: 08/22/93 10:09a
Subj: Re: Loom on CD Refer: NONE
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To: Mark
By: Giuliano Maciocci Jr.
On: Sunday August 22 1993 at 10:09
Wednesday August 11 1993, Mark Womack tells John Serrano:
JS>> I just bought an NEC CD-ROM drive that came bundled with software,
JS>> notably LucasArts "Loom." It's a great game, but the only problem
JS>> is that I need a hint on how to get out of a sticky situation. You
JS>> see, I've made it as far as the foundry-I'm in it, but since the
JS>> person with whom I've exchanged identies died (meaning I no longer
JS>> look like him), I'm basically stuck inside, listening to the
JS>> conversation between the foreman and the Bishop, as well as the
JS>> incessant pounding by Edgewise:)
JS>> Thanks for your assistance,
MW> John, I'm stuck in exactly the same place!!! I don't seem to be able
MW> to get out of this one. It took me a while to get INTO the foundry
MW> (grin). I think we need to do something to the woodbin. I don't know
MW> what but it's about the only thing that we can click on and I've
MW> already done everything to the door and straw that I can do.
I know, hold on, let me find it.... Ready:
You should be trapped in a dark room, resting and without your magic stick.
The kid has become a ghost and Hetchel manages to escape from the rip in the
sky. She takes your stick and gives it to you from under the door, you take it.
use the 'OPENING' melody on the door, and cast the 'emptying' melody backwards
on the woodbin. Go down the stairs and listen to the conversation. Suddenly the
two guys who were talking will ask the blacksmith how the work was proceeding,
and he will lift the sword. Cast the 'SHARPENING' melody backwards on the
sword, they will see you and put you in a cage. When the Mandible stops
talking, use the 'opening' on the cage. Then the "boss" will take your stick
and leave you with a servant. When the servant disappears for being too
curious, look at the crystal ball 3 times and exit on the balcony. Talk to
Mandible, watch the animation and when he dies pick up the stick and go to the
other room. Run from the monster and when you fall into the whole use the
'opening' melody backwards...... Good luck!
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From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 1853
To: DON ROBINSON Date: 08/22/93 10:32a
Subj: Re: Space quest help... Refer: NONE
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To: Don
By: Giuliano Maciocci Jr.
On: Sunday August 22 1993 at 10:32
Thursday August 12 1993, Don Robinson tells All:
DR> I just bought Space Quest IV for CD-ROM, and have had quite a few
DR> problems..
DR> * First, when I'm playing, it says Space Quest XI.. ????
It's normal... You see, the game is basically about time travel, and you start
from SQ XI!! After a while you'll even go to SQ1 and others. It's cool!
DR> * When I try to install it, it INSISTS that I pick a voice digitizing
DR> card.. I have no voice or sound card.. Does it require one? When I
DR> try to run it, it says it can't find one, and plays music through
DR> the speaker, but when I walk up to a guy to talk to him, it just stops
DR> there.. His face moves around, and I can exit the program, but
DR> that's it.
Weird, I'm sorry I can't help you on that.
Bye!
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From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 1854
To: ERIC LOTT Date: 08/22/93 10:39a
Subj: Re: Cd-Rom Help Refer: NONE
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To: ERIC
By: Giuliano Maciocci Jr.
On: Sunday August 22 1993 at 10:39
Friday August 13 1993, HENRY PAUL writes to ERIC LOTT:
->> I really need some advice and help concerning CD-ROM. Right now I
->> have a 386/DX40 with 4 megs RAM, a 330 meg HD, and a SB Pro. I'm
->> trying to decide if I should upgrade to a 486 (33 or 66), or get
->> into CD-ROM. People (who don't know alot) have told me that the SB
->> will only work with the Creative Lab's drive (Panasonic), is this
->> true? Basically, I'd like to know what some of you would do,
->> upgrade the CPU, or go for the drive, keeping in mind that I am an
->> avid game player.
Hey, I have a 386DX/40 with SB PRO too. I am considering a CD-ROM as well, and
until a short time ago I was thinking towards a MITSUMI LU-005, but since my
budged went a bit higher now I think I'll buy the NEW Panasonic CR562B, 300ks
320ms and 64K cache. I saw it for US$276, a bargain!! It supposedly connects
directly to the SBPRO, so there is no need to use up another slot for a
controller. Tell me what you think.... Bye!
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From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 1855
To: JOHN KORTINK Date: 08/22/93 10:44a
Subj: Re: Loom on CD Refer: NONE
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To: John
By: Giuliano Maciocci Jr.
On: Sunday August 22 1993 at 10:44
Friday August 13 1993, John Kortink tells John Serrano:
Hi John!
JK> I can also recommend Loom. Monkey Island is good too (and lasted a bit
JK> longer with me). I recently bought 'Day of the tentacle', a
JK> cartoon-like game which is very nice too (seems to be quite big
JK> graphics- and plot-wise). All these games are from LucasArts. Makes
JK> you think ...
Have you tried 'Monkey Island 2, LeChuck's Revenge' and 'Indiana Jones and the
Fate of Atlantis?' They're simply GREAT!!!!
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From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 1856
To: AGUINALDO CRUZ Date: 08/22/93 10:47a
Subj: Re: Free Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
To: Aguinaldo
By: Giuliano Maciocci Jr.
On: Sunday August 22 1993 at 10:47
Wednesday August 11 1993, Aguinaldo Cruz tells Chris Conklin:
CC>> C-3 Production Systems is now online. If you would like to
CC>> receive catalog of CD-ROM disks at discount prices, leave message
CC>> here, give me a call or write to the address below.
Please send a catalog to:
Giuliano Maciocci Jr.
34 Clairvood Rd.
Alexandra Park
Harare-Zimbabwe
Thanks
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From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 1857
To: EDWARD PALMER Date: 08/22/93 10:49a
Subj: Re: Duplicate Messages Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
To: Edward
By: Giuliano Maciocci Jr.
On: Sunday August 22 1993 at 10:49
Friday August 13 1993, Edward Palmer tells Moderator:
EP> Lately I've noticed a plague of old messages reappearing in this echo.
EP> There were a bunch from zone 2, but there were also some from zone 1.
EP> No wonder this echo is so big, it's full of echos!! Is this
EP> problem being worked on?
EP> --- GEcho 1.00
I noticed the problem here in Harare too!
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From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 1858
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/22/93 10:52a
Subj: Re: New Mpc Specs Refer: NONE
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To: Rowan
By: Giuliano Maciocci Jr.
On: Sunday August 22 1993 at 10:52
Friday August 13 1993, Rowan Evans tells Giuliano Maciocci Jr.:
Hi Rowan!
RE> You're confused.... An SVGA card with 1Mb on it is capable of
RE> displaying 65,536 colours in 640x480 resolution in Windows.... SVGA is
RE> basically anything over a 64Kb VGA card (640x480x16).... and that
RE> includes the additional colour depth.....
Gosh, so a VGA with 1MEG can display all those colours AT ONCE??? Sounds too
good to be true, but maybe.... I have a TRIDENT 8900c, 1 MEG. Can I do that
display? With what drivers? Please someone clear my mind!!
Bye!
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From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 1859
To: JANUSZ SUROWKA Date: 08/22/93 10:56a
Subj: Re: DOS 6.0 Refer: NONE
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To: Janusz
By: Giuliano Maciocci Jr.
On: Sunday August 22 1993 at 10:56
Thursday August 12 1993, Janusz Surowka tells Greg Haskins:
JS> they added a memory manager, hard disk compression utility, anti-virus
JS> for windows, backup for windows(uses compression, excellent), and alot
JS> more other goodies
...The hard disk compression utility is buggy, the memory manager doesn't match
QEMM, the backup is pathetic an doesn't work well, the antivirus doesn't match
McAffee SCAN, move and deltree have been around for ages.... The whole thing
can F@$* your HD... Nice!
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From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 1860
To: STEPHEN EATON Date: 08/22/93 11:03a
Subj: Re: CD-Rom Problems Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
To: Stephen
By: Giuliano Maciocci Jr.
On: Sunday August 22 1993 at 11:03
Friday August 13 1993, Stephen Eaton tells Giuliano Maciocci Jr.:
Hi stephen!
GMJ>> Well, judging from the load of trouble DOS6 has been
GMJ>> causing worldwide, you could always go back to DOS5,
GMJ>> like I did. Just a suggestion.
SE> I did, but No difference, I ended up finding the card had stuffed up.
SE> Oh well you get that on the big jobs !
SE> Stephen...
Yep... Anyway, I'd stick with DOS5 anyway, card or not card.
Bye!
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From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 1861
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 08/22/93 11:06a
Subj: Re: New Mpc Specs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
To: Leslie
By: Giuliano Maciocci Jr.
On: Sunday August 22 1993 at 11:06
Saturday August 14 1993, Leslie Rhorer tells Giuliano Maciocci Jr.:
GM>> Yes, well. They are available if that's what you mean,
GM>> but they sure aren't that AFFORDABLE, are they? By the
LR> Compared to what? I have a system that easily exceeds all the
LR> specs given.
Leslie, the fact that you have such a system does not make it any cheaper.
BTW, my SVGA card is a stinking 8-bit, alias 256 colors AFAIK.
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From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 1862
To: DIANA KIRKSEY Date: 08/22/93 11:11a
Subj: Re: new mpc specs Refer: NONE
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To: Diana
By: Giuliano Maciocci Jr.
On: Sunday August 22 1993 at 11:11
Sunday August 15 1993, Diana Kirksey tells Rowan Evans:
DK> I have a Trident 1Meg SVGA card and it's capable of having app.
DK> 262,000 colors(1024x768x256 are the specs).You can also install the
DK> windows driver for smaller(something like 640x800 or something,can't
DK> remember exactly) but you still get the full 256 colors.You need to
DK> have the actual card driver installed though,not just the "VGA" they
DK> have in the Windows setup.
Thanks Diana, but I am afraid there has been a missunderstanding. Let me tell
you what I know, and please do correct me if I am wrong:
A TRIDENT 8900c is an 8-bit card, thus it can display 256 colors simultaneously
out of a pallette of 262,000. Yes, I can display the 256 in 1024*768 mode, but
there is to my knowledge NO WAY I can display the full pallette at one time.
Bye!
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From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 1863
To: MICHAEL BERNSTEIN Date: 08/22/93 11:15a
Subj: Re: SPACE QUEST HELP... Refer: NONE
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To: Michael
By: Giuliano Maciocci Jr.
On: Sunday August 22 1993 at 11:15
Sunday August 15 1993, Michael Bernstein tells Don Robinson:
MB> future like Space Quest XII--Vohauls Revenge II (wait until you get to
MB> Space Quest X--Latex Babes of Estros...WOW!) Good luck and most
Yep...! I liked that part too!
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From: ROB MCINTYRE Number: 1864
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/27/93 2:03p
Subj: CD LIQUIDATION! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Oh... Pity.
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From: ERIC ESKAM Number: 1865
To: ALL Date: 08/27/93 3:48p
Subj: Help with MSCDEX Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Anyone have a text file laying around that explains the switches for MSCDEX?
I would be most appriciative...
Eric
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From: JOHN TUCKY Number: 1866
To: ALL Date: 08/21/93 2:17p
Subj: CD-ROM distributor Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
The following is a master distributor of Software Toolworks:
Clayton B. Guy
Laser Resources Inc.
20620 S. Leapwood Ave.
Carson, CA 90746
800-535-2737
310-324-4444 ext. 19
They sell titles and bundles to dealers. Tell 'em Parma Compatibles sent 'ya.
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From: BRAD JENSEN Number: 1867
To: ALL Date: 08/27/93 1:14p
Subj: phone list cds Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm looking for a residential phone list Cd of at least the eastern USA
that can be read by a program in dbase or btrieve format. DOes such a thing
exist?
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From: ROB LEVINE Number: 1868
To: ALL Date: 08/26/93 8:54p
Subj: Phone Directory CD's for MAC Refer: NONE
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Hello All!
Need a residential phone directory CD that will run on a MAC. Know of any?
ProPhone does not currently come in a MAC format.
Rob
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 1869
To: DOUG DAGGER Date: 08/26/93 5:23a
Subj: CD-ROM's Refer: NONE
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-> I'm new to CD-ROM's and was wondering what kind I should get. I'm
-> and on a limited budget. If anyone has info on any CD-ROM which woul
-> under say $700, and has the best sound and graphics for that price, p
-> tell me.
Have you heard of the Mitsumi? Many of us have them. They are about $185
if you look around.
Then you will want a sound card. ATI Stereo F/X CD directly interfaces
with the Mitsumi. About $145 for the card.
We didn't havea big budget either, went with the above and are VERY
satisfied.
I am 17 myself. :)
Hope this helps,
Henry
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 1870
To: VID KID Date: 08/26/93 5:25a
Subj: Mitsumi CD-Rom drives Refer: NONE
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-> From what i heard there was a module available for the mitsum
-> that would enable you to connect a soundcard. But without that module
-> will not work with a soundcard. From all the information i have gathe
-> the last few months about the mitsumi. The modules between $50-70. I
-> only seen one place that had it available. But cant seem to remember
-> Try contacting mitsumi and they might be able to tell you where to g
All you need to do is plug the 4wire cable onto the controller and then
to the drive.
Then plug a cable from the RCA jacks to your MIC port on the sound card,
turn on th MIXER and away you go....!
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 1871
To: CARLOS BENITZ Date: 08/26/93 5:31a
Subj: Re: Cd-rom Games Refer: NONE
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-> TS>You should hear it with a Soundblaster Pro (for sound Fx) and a So
-> TS>Canvas (for music)! What a combination! Awesome!
->
-> You're using two soundcards in the same machine at the same time
-> and the game knows which output goes where?
Yes, the sound Canvas is a Roland MIDI Sound Module.
Most games now have a 'DUAL' driver to run a Roland (only Music) and a
SB compat. (effects & speech)...
Hope this clears the air!
Henry
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 1872
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 08/26/93 9:35a
Subj: CD-ROM GAMES Refer: NONE
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Hi Ashwin!,
Do you have any Sierra CD-ROMS you don't want anymore? I would like to
take them off your hands if possible! :)
TTYL,
Henry
P. S. I have a Mitsumi too!
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From: MARK WOMACK Number: 1873
To: TOM GUELKER Date: 08/24/93 8:47p
Subj: Cd-rom Help! Refer: NONE
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Hi TOM,
TG> Mark, it might be psychological, but they sure do sound better on my
TG> $2000 computer than my $600 rack system!
I don't doubt that you perceive a difference at all, I was just
interested in what would make that difference. Is the software you
speak of a digtal-to-analog converter? If that were the case, there
could be a real difference depending upon phase correction and
oversampling rates.
Please tell me more...
... "I tried to contain myself but I escaped."
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 1874
To: ROB MCINTYRE Date: 08/27/93 4:11p
Subj: Cd Liquidation! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RM> What is the JEDI Collection ? Is it a Star Wars library ?
RM>
It is a 3 disc educational set.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 1875
To: MAHMUT KURSUN Date: 08/27/93 4:15p
Subj: Pressing CDROM, what-to-do Refer: NONE
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MK> -Dont put Wolfenstein 3D on your CDROM (forbidden in Germany)
I could see why since the game consists of killing German Nazis.....I'm sure
they find that offensive.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 1876
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/27/93 4:17p
Subj: NIGHT OWL 9 SPECIALS Refer: NONE
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MS> ATTENTION NIGHT OWL USERS! IT'S HERE! IT'S SHIPPING! IT'S HOT!
MS> AND IT'S 680+MB OF PURE 93 SHAREWARE!
You make it sound like it's brand spanking new. It has been shipping for quite
some time now <g d & r>.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 1877
To: JACK YONG Date: 08/27/93 4:18p
Subj: CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JY> Hi there, I'm opening a BBS and thought a CD-ROM
JY> would be a nice offer to users, do you guys have
JY> any offers for me, or maybe some offers?
Call our BBS at 615-478-2890 HST or 615-479-1047 14400 and download PCJCDS.ZIP.
You'll find some of the lowest prices around and a full selection of about
every type of CD you would want to run on a BBS. We also have file lists
available for about every CD that is out that has one.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 1878
To: CHRIS SNYDER Date: 08/27/93 4:21p
Subj: CSS CD Price List Refer: NONE
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CS> Do you match prices?
CS>
CS> --- FreeMail 1.07b
We match most any prices on regularly priced CDROM discs (an probably even on
sale prices) that you will see here in the echos. Call our BBS at 615-478-2890
HST or 615-479-1047 14400 and download PCJCDS.ZIP for our catalog.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 1879
To: ALL Date: 08/27/93 4:25p
Subj: weekly cdrom specials Refer: NONE
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PCJ "Hot" WEEKLY SPECIALS 8/26 - 8/31
Microsoft Bookshelf (Windows MPC)........................ 44.95
ProPhone 1993 (7 CD Set - Business & Residential)........ 94.95
Prophone 1992 (3 CD Set - 1 Business & 2 Residential).... 34.95
Software Toolworks Bundles:
US & World Atlas/Animals/Reference Library/Grolier's...... 72.95
US & World Atlas/Animals/Reference Library/Grolier's MPC.. 84.95
Orders - 800-547-7817 (9 - 9 EST) or 615-339-0235 (24 Hours)
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From: RAY DYER Number: 1880
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 08/26/93 2:15p
Subj: Re: BBS Shareware CD Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting HENRY PAUL to RAY DYER <=-
HP> That's weird. I have discs with all kinds of scratches and they play
It may be some software interrupt problem on my system. I just
it out recently with all CD's affected. The CD can be read but it is
slow.
Running on 386-SX-33, 16 bit card.
Native audio CD's run without problems as the drive takes control.
... We now return to our regularly scheduled flame-throwing.
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From: RAY DYER Number: 1881
To: VINCE SORENSEN Date: 08/27/93 7:28a
Subj: Re: NIGHT OWL 9 Refer: NONE
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It looks like a good idea. Thanks for the message. I finally
convinced the store to lower their prices and they did once I
shown a few mail order message ads from this echo and forced
them to contact to find out the real story.
... Sorry, the Dog ate my Blue Wave packet.
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 1882
To: ALL Date: 08/26/93 5:12a
Subj: Night Owl 9 $25 Refer: NONE
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N i g h t O w l 9 . 0
******************************************************************
********* *********
*********** $ 25.00 a Copy !!! ***********
********* *********
*********** ***********
********* Ask for Barney *********
*********** ------------------ ***********
********* 1-800-638-5757 *********
*********** ***********
********* We Will NOT be out Sold *********
*********** ***********
******************************************************************
N i g h t O w l 9 . 0
BBS Ready - Has Files.bbs
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From: BRUCE BOWMAN Number: 1883
To: ALL Date: 08/26/93 6:22p
Subj: Nix Pix CD's Refer: NONE
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Where can I obtain Nix Pix CD-ROM's? I'm particularly interested in a CD that
would contain the full-size GIFs represented by the "L" series of catalog gifs
on some of the other Nix Pix CDs. Thanks.
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From: DON RIEB Number: 1884
To: STEVE PESANT Date: 08/26/93 8:20a
Subj: Re: Thanks Refer: NONE
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On 23 Aug 93 21:10:16, Steve Pesant said the following to Don Rieb^
Regarding: Thanks
SP> Hi there Don
SP>
SP> Well I would just like to thank-you for the quick response...and for sendin
SP> me your price list...Thanks.
SP>
SP> -=Cheers=-
SP> Steve.
SP>
SP>
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SP> * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070
Your quite wellcome. I should have another new catalog comming out soon. You
are on the mailing list so you will recive it when it is ready.
** Don **
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From: WAYNE MAJORS Number: 1885
To: CHARLES HART Date: 08/27/93 1:47p
Subj: Re: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
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In a msg on <Aug 23 21:10>, Charles Hart writes to Michael Hajovsky:
MH> Hear, Hear. I am all for it. If you disagree with the
MH> prohibition of free speech just leave the country, or be
MH> removed from the society. Now, since we have democrats in the
CH> As has been made very clear to me, an Echo is _not_ a democracy.
Yep.. but even in a democracy, the other person's freedom stops at the end of
my nose.... It doesn't include the right to punch my nose or to walk your dog
on my carpet.. nor to sell porn on my BBS through this echo...
It's great to live in a country where we can stand up and say "no" to those who
would empty their toilets on our dining tables and call it their freedom..
and it's great to have an echo for CD ROM that has a moderator with the grit to
say "no".
Thanks Bob!
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From: ADRIAN VERGOT Number: 1886
To: ALL Date: 08/27/93 8:24a
Subj: Make Your own CDs! Refer: NONE
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How would you like your own custom made CD-ROM?
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From: TAMI THOMPSON Number: 1887
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 08/27/93 7:28p
Subj: DISCOUNT CD-ROM'S [A] Refer: NONE
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Hi! I didn't see [B], and I had a title in mind that would have shown up in
that part, so I guess I'll ask! Do you happen to have Ocean Life? If so, which
Volumes and how much? Thanks for your time!!! And you might want to try posting
the [B] section again - FYI! -Tami
p.s. This CDROM is by Sumeria.
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From: DARRELL DAVIS Number: 1888
To: LOUIS GHINIS Date: 08/27/93 3:50p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM BUNDLES Refer: NONE
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>-> I was also looking at the Fusion 16 package, however I found out it
>-> is an 800ms drive that is not Kodak ready so have decided against it.
>-> If you have a "Software Etc." store near you, they have that package
>-> priced at $399.
>
> That is discusting 800ms? Geez you can get a 320ms 300kb/sec transfer
>562b panasonic with sound blaster 16 and kodak photo cd access disc for
>around the $399 price. Sounds like their trying to sell some people old
>technology for the same price as new technology drives.
I just ordered a Fusion 16 package with a 380 ms drive. I ordered it
directly from Media Vision. Most of the retail stores seem to have older
packages on the shelves. The package was $399 with $9 shipping.
Darrell
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From: JIM CLEMENTS Number: 1889
To: DAVID BURKE Date: 08/27/93 6:37a
Subj: THE *GOOD* OLD DAYS Refer: NONE
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-> * Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario
DB> ^^^
DB> I have gotten back a lot of messages that it is a good idea, Thanks
DB>for yours. By the way... I worte a program called CRS (well the
DB>installation creats that directory and CRS starts the program) or
DB>"Cattle Registry System" that would not be what the CRS stands for
DB>hummmm guess not, just thought it interesting.
Heh-heh, that is interesting, David. In this case CRS stands for
Canada Remote Systems which added the word Online to emphasize
its telecommunications. CRS is the largest PCBoard in North
America, some 9,000 paid members, 200 plus telephone lines, more
than 6,000 conferences, host of North America Net (NANET) and now
working on satellite feeds to member BBSs.
I'm biased. I think it is a very good BBS.
DB>PS: There are 1000s of CDROM DISC out there now... as little as $4.
I agree. I have more than 100, and there were a couple under $20 --
a couple that were giveaways at computer shows. The best part is,
we ain't seen nothin' yet! Cheers!
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From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 1890
To: JIM CLEMENTS Date: 08/27/93 12:46p
Subj: THE *GOOD* OLD DAYS Refer: NONE
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-> I agree. I have more than 100, and there were a couple under $20 -- a
-> couple that were giveaways at computer shows. The best part is, we
-> ain't seen nothin' yet! Cheers!
There are also clearance sales on the bbs also. I've seen commercial
software going for $13 u.s. a pop like willy beamish,mayo clinic,space
quest 4, us atlas w/automap, family doctor then seen other slightly
higher specials for $18 which are laura long bow2 the slightly newer
titles. It is fantastic games can become so humungous and eventually
drop to under $20 like kings quest 6 for example will eventually drop to
under $20 in a year same with 7th guest and the reason why is they can
put so much info on the cdrom disc and yet pay the same price $1 as
oposed to diskettes they have to pay 40-50 cents per disk if they have
10 disks thats $4 $3 difference means a lot if you double it twice at
the distributor and retail end its more like $12 u.s. saved. But it is
fantastic cd's have become very affordable almost to the point that they
cost as much as music cd's and for games to be that price people can
afford to buy lots of software instead of only a few. If cdrom software
were expensive i wouldn't have even bothered buying a cdrom in the first
place.
Louis
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From: JOHN LABELLA Number: 1891
To: NIRAV SHETH Date: 08/27/93 2:16p
Subj: Re: FrEe CaTaLoG Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Nirav Sheth to All <=-
NS> For a free catalog.... Good prices... Ex. MSBookshelf $60.... So on
Please send me a catalogue
PO Box 7011
Station A
Toronto, Ontario
Canada
M4L 1X7
... Pardon Me, But Would You Have Any Blue Poupon?
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From: YVES DESJARDINS Number: 1892
To: DEVIN WOOD Date: 08/27/93 7:04a
Subj: NEC CDR-84 Refer: NONE
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Hello Devin!
26 Aug 93 12:51, Devin Wood wrote to Those In The Know:
DW> I've been considering this drive. I have a concern though. I'm a
DW> quadriplegic and can't move my fingers. I need a drive with a caddy so
DW> I don't ruin my CDs. I'm trying to find out about the doors. Needing
DW> to use both hands to insert ther disk, I won't be able to hold a door
DW> open while I do it. How are the doors set up?
I have this drive and I think you are out of luck. I find it pretty hard to
insert a CD in it with only one hand, however I'm sure it can be done. Where
there is a will there is a way....
The front door is spring loaded and you must hold it down to insert the CD in
it. After pushing it just a bit, the CD is sucked into the drive by itself.
I must admit though you have made an excellent choice of drive. I just love
mine.
Yves
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From: YVES DESJARDINS Number: 1893
To: LOUIS GHINIS Date: 08/27/93 7:13a
Subj: CD-ROM BUNDLES Refer: NONE
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Hello Louis!
26 Aug 93 12:51, Louis Ghinis wrote to David M. White:
LG> That is discusting 800ms? Geez you can get a 320ms 300kb/sec transfer
LG> 562b panasonic with sound blaster 16 and kodak photo cd access disc for
LG> around the $399 price. Sounds like their trying to sell some people old
LG> technology for the same price as new technology drives.
LG> Louis
LG> -+- FidoPCB v1.4 beta
LG> + Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15)
That's exactly what Fusion 16 bundle is. Fusion 16 was out at the same time
as the original SB bundle. The new PAStudio bundle is what it should be
compared with. And this is what he should be buying also....
Yves
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From: DON BOSMAN Number: 1894
To: BRENDAN FARTHING Date: 08/27/93 1:36a
Subj: Aust. Phone Disc Refer: NONE
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BF>and the one that sells for about $50.00 (This one is called
BF>Australian Phone Disk).
BF>The one that sells for $50 contains the entire Yellow and
BF>White Pages for every state in Australia.
BF>Why is there such a HUGE price difference between that disk
BF>and the $1500.00 one ??????
I'm not familiar with the Australian version, but the U.S.A. difference
is accuracy.
ProPhone 93 for instance is $100 US and not one listing I checked is
fully accurate. My residential phone is four years out of date, and
my business, which has been in the yellow pages for about six years
is not listed.
For about $900. US one can buy a more up to date disc and sign up for
the update service. All extra of course.
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From: SHAUN RADER Number: 1895
To: DIANA KIRKSEY Date: 08/27/93 5:35p
Subj: 7th guest Refer: NONE
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<<***** DIANA KIRKSEY wrote this on 08-24─93 {May be edited} *****>>
─>Eeks! You only got 1% with your Trident Video Card?! I guess I'd bette
─>stop complaining about getting 40% with my Trident 8900 Video Card.
Yeah, I got 1%, how did you get 40%? I have the Trident 8900 card too!
What type of computer do you have? I have the Diamond Stealth now,
which is great in Windows, but I still have my Trident (as a backup).
-Shaun Rader-
-Madman@Liberty.Com-
08/27/93 13:14
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From: FRANK RUSKO Number: 1896
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 08/27/93 10:37p
Subj: Trantor Scsi Controller Refer: NONE
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BRICE FLECKENSTEIN duly noted in a message to LARRY FOX on 08-18-1993
and mentioned
BF> >BG> with the way it works. My suggestion is to spend an additional US$130
or
BF> >BG> and get an Adaptec 1520 or 1522. The CorelSCSI drivers run it just
fine.
BF> >BG> No driver needed to run hard drives.
BF>
BF> >Thanks Bill I beleive I may purchase the Adaptec controller.. Sounds like
a
BF> >wise investment in the long run!
BF>
BF> Only if you plan to run OS/2 in the near future - otherwise, save yourself
BF> some
BF> $$ and a LOT of support grief and get an Allways IN-2000.
BF>
BF> I've RUN the Adaptec stuff - nice controllers, but I could get NO support
out
BF> of Adaptec, even as a DEALER. Always I never NEEDED support for - they just
BF> WORK!
Hello Bruce..
Pardon me for jumping in here,,but Adaptec has really cleaned up their
act as far as tech support is concerned..They now have an 800 number.
1-800-959-SCSI and they have been *very* helpful to date..Just to stay
on topic, I attached a Toshiba 3401 external to the 1542b and it was the
easiest install I have done.. I now have access to the CD in DOS,Win and
OS/2....Frank
BTW I had an Always and dumped it for the Adaptec....
Entered on <<08-18-1993>> from Shawnigan Lake B.C.
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 1897
To: KEN TULLY Date: 08/26/93 7:35p
Subj: Busty Ver. 1.0 Refer: NONE
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KT=>I have a copy of Busty Babes Version 1.0 for sale to the Highest bidder. Y
KT=>can call me Voice at 203-387-3174, Fax at 203-387-3306 or BBS at 203-387-32
KT=> Ken...
KT=>I forgot to mention.. This is an autographed copy with Lee and Blaines
KT=>signature. I have been offered $250. for it so far and will be selling soo
KT=>so if anyone is interested let me know soon, or you will loose out..
Excuse me,
But what is the big deal? This is not meant to funny, I really want to
know, I have read messages where it says the "original version"...??? Or
something like that, is there a difference?
Regards,
Adrian Salas
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 1898
To: ALL Date: 08/26/93 7:37p
Subj: Cd-rom catalogs Refer: NONE
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Hi!
I have seen various messages offering free CD-Rom catalogs. Please send
any CD-Rom Catalogs to my following address:
Adrian Salas
2434 East 32nd Street,
National City, CA 91950-7710
* QMPro 1.50 00-0000 * WORF! Please show these Children the Airlock...
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From: ROBERTO REYES Number: 1899
To: DONATO RABAGO Date: 08/26/93 4:41p
Subj: Shipping? Refer: NONE
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DR:>I am from Guadalajara Jalisco., MEXICO, and I would like to know if you can
DR:>ship any CD-ROM to México. If you can I would like a price list, please sen
DR:>it
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DR:> * Origin: *CyberNet* BBS [IDS] / Guadalajara, Mexico (4:970/1)
Call Ismail Arslangiray of Groupware.
I live in Monterrey Nuevo Leon, MEXICO and I receive CD'S here. I have
an address in Laredo Tx, but I know you have to pay a little more to
receive in México. Maybe if you like a CD-ROM here in Mexico some
vendors have a nice prices, here I buy a Mitsumi LUS005 it's a great
CD-ROM
Greetings from Monterrey N.L. México
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From: ROBERTO REYES Number: 1900
To: LOYD CRAFT Date: 08/26/93 4:41p
Subj: Custom Cdrom Refer: NONE
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AS:>LC=> **** Digital Enterprises ****
AS:>LC=> Custom CDROM Service
Could you send a flyer to:
Roberto Reyes
14422 Industry Av. Suite 7-54
Laredo, Tx.78041
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From: ROBERTO REYES Number: 1901
To: GLEN PIWOARCZYK Date: 08/26/93 4:41p
Subj: Free Cdrom Catalog! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please send a catalog to:
Roberto Reyes
14422 Industry Av. Suite 7-54
Laredo, Tx 78041
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 1902
To: POE LIM Date: 08/23/93 8:44p
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
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Hi Poe!
On 08-21-93 Poe Lim wrote to Rowan Evans...
PL> On Aug 18 20:41 in a msg to Don Kulha, Rowan Evans of 3:711/413 wrote:
PL>
PL> > You've stated your opinion..... I'm interested and responsive, but
PL> > I need *FACT* not *OPINION* before I'll change my stance from
PL> > recommending caddyless drives...
PL>
PL> The main advantage of a caddy system (IMHO) is when you frequently
PL> swap disks; much easier having them in caddies, and merely shove
PL> them in, then having to fiddle around with the case. You
PL> can also leave a few of them around and not worry about scratches.
You're a dealer aren't you Poe?? Its probably cheaper for you to get
caddies than it is for the average user.... Most users I know of with
caddy type drives can only afford one caddy... and they are amazed and
impressed by the Panasonic....
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 1903
To: LESLIE THOMAS Date: 08/23/93 8:47p
Subj: Mistumi/Sb/Sbpro Refer: NONE
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Hi Leslie!
On 08-20-93 Leslie Thomas wrote to Rowan Evans...
LT> RE> On 08-15-93 HENRY PAUL wrote to MARK WOMACK...
LT> RE>
LT> RE> HP> Okay, this jack IS for the speaker wire. It sends the sound
LT> RE> HP> from SB to the internal speaker. This is ONLY if you do not
LT> RE> HP> have external speakers. (it just ruins the sound when it
LT> RE> HP> goes through the puny thing)
LT> RE>
LT> RE> According to my SB16 ASP manual, JP11 is an *INPUT* connector,
LT> RE> with +5V on pin 1 and data on pin 2.....
LT>
LT>
LT> According to my SB Pro manual JP11 is the Share DMA Jumper; JP3 is
LT> the speaker "output".
LT>
LT> Pin 1
LT> SPKR - Speaker output right channel. Maximum output voltage is 3V
LT> rms at 4 ohms
LT>
LT> Pin 2
LT> SPKRR - Speaker ouput return signal for right channel
LT>
LT>
LT> Obviously different connections for different boards. BTW the Sound
LT> Blaster Pro does not support a connection from the MB to the card.
Nor does the SB16 ASP support the Speaker Out connection....
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 1904
To: ERIC HSIAO Date: 08/23/93 8:50p
Subj: Re: 16 bit cards Refer: NONE
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Hi Eric!
On 08-20-93 Eric Hsiao wrote to Rowan Evans...
EH> I've seen a PAS-16/Toshiba 3401B combo advertised for $599 -
EH> - considerably cheaper than the numbers you started
EH> (>$1000). Then there's also the Fusion 16 Double Speed CD-
EH> ROM version for around the same price which has a NEC drive
EH> and a few CDs too.
Yeah, well it comes of you picking on my quoting prices in Aussie
dollars (I thought I put the $A in there!) and you quoting in US
dollars.....
Unfortunately we pay *MUCH* higher prices here - the Fusion CD 16
with Philips drive & proprietary bus PAS 16 is over $A1000.00 here
(and that's not even a SCSI!).....
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 1905
To: SAM JONES Date: 08/23/93 8:51p
Subj: Problem Solved! Refer: NONE
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Hi Sam!
On 08-21-93 Sam Jones wrote to Rowan Evans...
SJ> Hi, I solved my problem concerning the 562-b causing
SJ> music in games to slow or pause while accessing the CD!
SJ> Last night I downloaded a new version of SBCD.SYS. This
SJ> new version is dated 6/93 while the one that came with my
SJ> drive was dated 4/93! Is this the version you have?
SJ> Anyway there may even be a newer version by now.<g>
SJ> I am happy once again! And I love my SB16, WaveBlaster and
SJ> 562-b as they are all excellent products both performance
SJ> and price wise!
A mate sent me a copy of the 4.1 beta driver.. I think its the same one...
He said it was "much faster than the old driver".... so I tried it under
DOS... saw similar throughput figures, so I went back to the non-beta
driver..... I may have to re-visit this driver!
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 1906
To: LOONG CHUNG Date: 08/23/93 9:12p
Subj: Panasonic CDR-63 Refer: NONE
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Hi Loong!
On 08-20-93 Loong Chung wrote to All...
LC> Could any one give me full details on the Panasonic CDR-563?
LC> e.g. Speed, transfer rate etc.
Panasonic CR563 (as OEMmed to Creative Labs, normally CR562B)
Transfer Rate 300 Kbps in double speed mode
150 Kbps in single speed mode
Avg Acess 320ms in single speed mode
450ms in double speed mode
Motorised tray for CD-ROM.
JEDIC connector for external DAT output
CD Audio output
Panasonic (Creative Labs) AT bus....
LC> And how much is it in Australia?
I bought mine from Osborne in Sydney for $A395.00 including cables and
8 bit interface....
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 1907
To: ED YEE Date: 08/23/93 9:18p
Subj: CD sound Refer: NONE
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Hi Ed!
On 08-20-93 Ed Yee wrote to All...
EY> pin from the speakers. My question is, if I'm playing a
EY> audio CD in windows and I trigger a system event which
EY> plays a wav file, what will happen ? Will I see a nice
EY> mini-firework display on my desk or will the sound just
EY> "mingle" ?
Sounds will just "mingle".....
EY> Also would it be easier it the adaptor I got
EY> just had 2 RCA plugs and a male headphone connector
EY> (connects CD-ROM controller directly to PAS+ sound card.
EY> Would the sound just go throught the sound card and through
EY> the speakers ?
That'd be easier, but option 3 is even easier!
That is, get the internal cable that goes from your CD-ROMs CD Audio out
connector to the CD-ROM connector of the PAS 16!
EY> I also have a friend with a 286 sytem with
EY> the same CD-ROM drive, but she only has a regular Sound
EY> Blaster 2.0 sound card. Would the last idea I mentioned
EY> work on her computer.
No, as I understand it the SoundBlaster 2.0 does not support an
internal mixer function. The line in for the SB 2.0 is for recording
purposes only!
Cheers!
o
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From: DAVID SALTRICK Number: 1908
To: ALL Date: 08/23/93 10:29a
Subj: CDROM Drivers Refer: NONE
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Howdy...
Anybody got any CDROM Drivers for the Mitsumi Drives?? in Brisbane that
is?? If so leave a message or get in contect with me on my board, as stated in
origin line!.
Thanks in Advance
David
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From: MICHAEL OUJESKY Number: 1909
To: JAMES MUNRO Date: 08/28/93 10:00a
Subj: Sony driver for OS2 Refer: NONE
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JM> Does any one know where I could get a driver for my SONY
JM> CDU535 series. To enable me to run it with OS2 ver. 2.1.
JM> Ihave to reboot dos all the time right now to run my CD.
JM> thanks anyone who can help
It was hatched into FWDRIVERS within the last couple of weeks. Check your
local OS/2 BBS for it.
Later...
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From: LUIS CARVAJAL Number: 1910
To: ALL Date: 08/22/93 2:36p
Subj: Kodak Photo CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone know what exactly should I need in order to see pictures from a
CD?
This is what I own:
- A Soundblaster CD-ROM
- Corel Draw 3.0 (I think this is also useful..)
Thanks!
Greetings, Luiyi
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From: LUIS CARVAJAL Number: 1911
To: ALL Date: 08/22/93 2:40p
Subj: Games Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi there,
Has anyone seen 'The day of the tentacle' on CD?. How does it differ from
the regular version?
I have heard that 'Dragon's Lair' is about to be released for CD-ROM. Has
anyone seen it yet? Do you know if it is going to be more of the same crap or
it is going to be, finally, something close to the real thing, the coin-op
machine??
Thanks, Greetings:
Luiyi
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From: LOU PETRALIA Number: 1912
To: VID KID Date: 08/26/93 8:25p
Subj: MITSUMI CD-ROM DRIVES Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Vid Kid to Martin Roodenburg <=-
VK> From what i heard there was a module available for the
VK> mitsumi that would enable you to connect a soundcard. But without that
VK> module it will not work with a soundcard. From all the information i
VK> have gathered over the last few months about the mitsumi. The modules
VK> between $50-70. I have only seen one place that had it available. But
VK> cant seem to remember where. Try contacting mitsumi and they might be
VK> able to tell you where to get it.
VK> Vidkid
I'm not quite sure what you mean when you say the mitsumi will not work
with a sound card. My setup is a mitsumi and a pas16 and all my sound
software works with no problem at all. Sure I gave up a slot for the
mitsumi interface card but other than that all software that uses sound
works with no problem at all including windows and the 7th guest. The only
sound I don't get is in playing audio CD's and with the exception of the
intro to the 7'th Guest, I haven't seen or heard a computer audio cdrom.
As for playing audio CD's, why should I use my computer with it's 4W
amp when I have my 150W system with a 6 cardgreg cd changer 10 feet away
from my desk. I think what a lot a people forget is the sound card and
the CD Drive are 2 seperate devices that can function independtly. I hate
to see people pass up a CD Drive because they think that it will not work
correctly or that they can't get sound if it's not directly connected to
their sound card.
... It got better when the Swedish Bikini Team came.
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From: DOUGLAS NEUMAN Number: 1913
To: JACK YONG Date: 08/27/93 3:34p
Subj: CD-ROM Refer: NONE
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Hello Jack!
In a message to All <08/25/93> Jack Yong wrote:
JY> Hi there, I'm opening a BBS and thought a CD-ROM would be a nice offer to
JY> users, do you guys have any offers for me, or maybe some offers?
JY> --- Maximus/2 2.01wb
JY> * Origin: The Corner Store (604)464-0231 -14.4K- (1:153/255)
I have a NEC CDR-72 available for a small price of $130US that comes
with its own controller, but it is a true scsi drive so it can be
connected to a scsi controller. This is an external drive with access
speed of 380 ms and transfer speed of upto 150K but it does not have
internal circuitry to be MPC compatible. But for BBS use it would be an
excellent drive. I will include software drivers that you will need for
the NEC controller board that is being included. It also comes with 5
caddys. Call me at (914)351-3325 in the evening (after 6EDT) or at
(201)818-3547 during the day.
* WCE 1.10/2139 * Aw Honey... just one more message, honest...
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From: NIRAV SHETH Number: 1914
To: ALL Date: 08/27/93 3:51p
Subj: Free CD-ROM catalog Refer: NONE
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Hey,
Call (205)351-0072 or write:
2802 McDonald Ct.
Decatur, AL 35603-8700
For a free catalog of CD-ROM's from Sigma World Inc. MSBookshelf=$60,
and much more! Over 700 total titles.... Definitely cheap
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From: MICHAEL KONOR Number: 1915
To: STEVE MCKAIN Date: 08/26/93 4:04p
Subj: Re: RE: SCSI CDROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>MK>>MK>Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM External $200.00
>MK>>
>MK>>Is this drive daisy chain able???
>
>MK>Yes! The external case has two 50 pin centronics which can be
>used for
>MK>daisy chaining drives.
>
>Could you provide me with more information such as access time,
>transfer
>rates, reliability???
300-320ms access (I'm getting 300), 156k transfer rate, very reliable.
205-837-5053
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From: MICHAEL KONOR Number: 1916
To: STEVE MCKAIN Date: 08/26/93 4:05p
Subj: Re: SCSI CDROM Refer: NONE
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>MK>Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM External $200.00
>MK>Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM Internal $180.00
>
>MK>Works great on MS-DOS, OS/2, Amiga, and Mac. Features 50 Pin
>True SCSI,
>MK>300ms access, 156k transfer, newest EPROMs installed, and 64k
>Buffer.
>MK>Service Center Refurbished. MPC Compliant. Warranty
>
>MK>205-837-5053 anytime.
>
>Does this come with controller card and cables another words would
>it be
>ready to plug and play when it arrived???
You would need a true SCSI controller. This drive will hook up to any SCSI
controller along with harddrives, scanners, etc...
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From: MICHAEL KONOR Number: 1917
To: BRIAN ELFERT Date: 08/26/93 4:06p
Subj: Re: scsi cdrom Refer: NONE
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>-> Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM External $200.00
>
>Do you have SIX of these? Do they handle 650 meg CD-ROMS?
Give me a call. Yes, I'm using a 690meg cdrom online now.
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From: PAUL SWIDER Number: 1918
To: NICK FUNK Date: 08/27/93 8:18p
Subj: Panasonic 562 & Pro Stud Refer: NONE
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On 08-26-93 Nick Funk wrote to All...
NF> Does anyone know if the new ProAudio Studio 16 by MediaVision SCSI
NF> port
NF> will work with the Panasonic CR-562 double speed drive. An if so are
NF> the drivers included with the sound card.
Nick, in a word ..NO! The CR-562 is a proprietary 40 pin interface and the
PAS Studio 16 is a standard SCSI 50 pin interface. But, don't let that stop
you from buying the CR-562 and an interface card for it (not another SOUND
CARD) if you have an extra slot open in you computer and that is what you
want.
I just installed a CR-562b in my daughter's computer and it works quite
well. The place I purchased it from, MPS Multimedia, Inc., sells the 562 for
$249 and an interface card for $20. She had a SB16 sound card in her computer
so I just bought the driver/cable kit for $20.
If you are interested, check out, if you can, their ad in Sept's Computer
Shopper page 569. Oh, by the way, the driver they supplied caused some
"hiccups" on some audio stuff. I got the most recent one from Creative Labs
BBS and everything works real nice now. >Paul<
... OFFLINE 1.50 "First the memory goes then...I forgot the rest!"
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From: RONALD LEON Number: 1919
To: ALL Date: 08/28/93 1:42a
Subj: Speedway Refer: NONE
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Can an intelligent user of CD Speedway please post an ideal command line
for the program. I'm having some difficulty tweaking the thing. I have a
486-25SX, Mitsumi drive & 8 meg of ram.
Thanks in advance!
Ron
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From: RICK SHOAF Number: 1920
To: DAVE BENHAM Date: 08/28/93 1:32a
Subj: Re: Hitachi CD-ROM Refer: NONE
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DB> I have a Hitachi CDR 3500 and when I play Audio CD's it sounds
DB> real choppy... Could this be ebcause of the 8bit controller
DB> card? I have a 486 66MHz DX2 VL-Bus machine.
It's probably because of the slow transfer rate, 55 k/sec just doesn't
cut it. I have a 386SX/16 and it's kinda choppy here too.
Rick Shoaf
... What Bug! I left behind the roaches in New York!
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From: ART MARKO Number: 1921
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/28/93 2:45a
Subj: RED HOT SPECIALS Refer: NONE
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BO>$$$$$$$ R E D H O T C D' S A T R E D H O T P R I C E S $$$$$$$
> MORE SPECIALS - AMATURE MODELS - GAME/SOUNDWARE PRICE - $25.00ec
The amateur models...is that an "R" or an X-title. I haven't seen that
one described anywhere yet. Any info...
BTW...your package came no problems...but the Post Office didn't get the
proof of del'y card signed. All's well that end well though...
Do you have NixPix 4?...$$??
Regards,
Art
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From: JOSH PICHE Number: 1922
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 08/28/93 8:44a
Subj: Police Quest 4 (CD-ROM) Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thanks for the info. I do hope that the CD-ROM version is better than the disk
based version. Most likely it will be. Can't wait 'till it's out!
Josh Piche
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1923
To: CR HAMILTON Date: 08/27/93 11:17p
Subj: Night Owl 9 $25 Refer: NONE
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CH> N i g h t O w l 9 . 0
CH>Does this have the files.bbs format for use on the bbs?
Sure does. All you want, IN STOCK at $25.
Later,
.\\ike
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
orders: 800-767-1284
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1924
To: STEVE GERWECK Date: 08/27/93 11:17p
Subj: CD Caddies Refer: NONE
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SG>Who has the best price on new cd caddies?
I don't know who has the *lowest* price, but we sell the superior
quality Japanese Sony-style caddies at $4.99 each, or $4.79 for 10 or
more. If you want to save a few pennies, you can go with the U.S.
made units, but if you want the best, try these!
Later,
.\\ike
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VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1925
To: ALL Date: 08/27/93 11:17p
Subj: BRAND NEW CD'S! Refer: NONE
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n e w * n e w * THE NEW CD'S KEEP POURIN' IN AT STARVECTOR! * n e w * n e
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AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONEBOOK 93/94 - New release. 11,000,000 businesses.$39
ARIZONA IMAGES - Fabulous photos of the Arizona desert country.........$30
FIREARMS REFERENCE - Details on 600+ guns w/ 256-color images..........$30
KING'S QUEST VI - Newest in the KQ series. Better than 7th Guest!......$47
MICROSOFT GOLF - Multimedia Golf game that is "on par with reality"....$58
SHAREWARE EXPLORER - New shareware 4-pak w/ less than 1% dupes!........$59
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: DONNIE RAYNOR Number: 1926
To: VID KID Date: 08/28/93 11:56a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Cd-rom Drives Refer: NONE
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I have a Mitsimi drive too. I had a heck of a time to start with getting it
to work right in the begining. Come to find out I had a bad drive. But on the
way I got some good info on installing and configuring the drive. I have a
SBPro sound board, I found out that the four pin cable for the sound from the
CD drive can be pluged directly into the sound board with a slight modifca-
tion. The plug on the end of the Mitsumi cable that you would plug into the
interface needed to have the wires reversed. This is really no problem to fix
with a simple straight pin you press the small clips down on the end of each
wire and remove them. Make sure you mark the wires so you can put them back in
the reverse order of the way they came out. They just push back into the plug
and they will self lock. Pin (1) would be ground, pin (2) Left Channel, pin
(3) ground, pin (4) Right Channel. The sound works great, and there is no
need for any external cables.
Hope this helps you out with your question.
... I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere!
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From: DONNIE RAYNOR Number: 1927
To: ERIC ESKAM Date: 08/28/93 1:11p
Subj: Re: Help With Mscdex Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Eric Eskam to All <=-
EE> Anyone have a text file laying around that explains the switches for
EE> MSCDEX?
The syntax of the MSCDEX.EXE entry in autoexec.bat is:
[drive:][path]mscdex.exe/D:device name
[/M:n] [/E] [/V] [/L:drive letter]
[drive:] [path] mscdex.exe
Specifies the location (drive and directory) of the mscdex.exe file.
/D:device name
Specifies the name of the CD-ROM drive (8 characters maximum).
This must be identical to the device name specified in the device
driver in the config.sys file. For example:
C:\bin\mscdex.exe /D:mscd001
[/M:n]
Specifies the number of sector buffers for temporary storage of the
most recent disc data. For example to specify four sector buffers
you would use:
C:\bin\mscdex.exe /D:mscd001 /M:4
NOTE: The greater the value, the better the CD-ROM drive will
preform. However, each buffer uses about 2k of memory and
and specifying too many buffers may slow down computer
operation or interfere with other programs which have large
memory usage requirements. Using expanded memory (see the
/E option in this section) or loading MSCDEX.EXE into
high memory (refer to MS-DOS Users Manual or Memory Manager
Users Manual) may allow you to enhance CD-ROM performance
and operate programs with large memory usage requirements
simultaneously.
[/E]
Instructs the computer to use expanded memory, if available. For
example:
C:\bin\mscdex.exe /D:mscd001 /E
Note that you must first load an expanded memory driver before
using this option. If no expanded memory driver is loaded, the
following message appears:
Expanded memory not present or not usable
[/V]
Instructs the computer to display a summary of Ram allocation
and expanded memory usage at booting. For example specifying
C:\bin\mscdex.exe /D:mscd001 /V
will cause the computer to display memory information in the
following format:
5556864 bytes free memory
0 bytes expanded memory
12752 bytes CODE
1712 bytes static DATA
12618 dytes dynamic DATA
27344 bytes used
[/L:drive letter]
Specifies the drive letter to be assigned to the first CD-ROM
drive or the computer will be unable to access the CD-ROM
drive. For example, you might use:
C:\bin\mscdex.exe /D:mscd001 /L:F
Normally, the CD-ROM drive is assigned the next available drive
letter on the computer after floppy drives, hard drives, RAM
drives, etc. Therefore you only need to use this option if it
is necessary to assign a drive letter beyond the last letter in
use.
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From: RANDY MCANALLY Number: 1928
To: JOHN WOLF Date: 08/27/93 10:53a
Subj: SBPro CD ROM Drives Refer: NONE
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I think what would be a hell of a lot easier is to just get a Sound
Galaxy NX Pro card which has SCSI interface and is compatible with all
SCSI CD-ROM drives regardless of the speed. It's soundblaster, adlib,
disney sound source, FM music, and speech thing compatible so you have
much more compatability also. It runs about 170-180 dollars.
Randy
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From: RANDY MCANALLY Number: 1929
To: ERIC RICHARD Date: 08/27/93 10:55a
Subj: Cd-Rom Refer: NONE
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Try the NEC multispin or the APPLE CD cd-rom drives. They are both
double spin and under $350 dollars (some places). Use the appleCD for a
MAC or the NEC for either.
Randy
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From: RANDY MCANALLY Number: 1930
To: MING LEE Date: 08/27/93 10:57a
Subj: ADAPTEC 1522 AND NEC CDR- Refer: NONE
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If the CD-ROM is internal, try a sound card with SCSI interface. I use a
Sound Galaxy NX Pro with my CD-ROM, and it works wonderful!
Randy
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From: RANDY MCANALLY Number: 1931
To: KRIS JOHNSON Date: 08/27/93 11:01a
Subj: Cd's Refer: NONE
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I wouldn't reccommend daisy chaining to a sound card, I don't think it
would work and the card isn't designed for it anyway. It's made for a
CD-ROM only. Try seventh guest. It has cool graphics and audio. How much
memory does your svga card have? Is it local bus?
Randy
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From: RANDY MCANALLY Number: 1932
To: DAVID CALVIN Date: 08/27/93 11:07a
Subj: More Help! Refer: NONE
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I have a mitsumi drive that I got for $190 and it's MPC compliant.
Judging by the specs of yours, I'm sure it's a more expensive model and
most likely MPC compliant.
Randy
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From: RANDY MCANALLY Number: 1933
To: STEPHEN EATON Date: 08/27/93 11:10a
Subj: CD-Rom Problems Refer: NONE
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I've heard many other complaints and problems with CD-ROMs using an
adaptec SCSI card. My friend is running a panasonic with dos 6 and a
Sound Galaxy NX Pro sound card with SCSI. Works fine. You should check
out your drivers make sure they are installed properly. If all else
fails, get a sound card with SCSI since you probably need one anyway --
they are nice with CD-Roms!
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From: RANDY MCANALLY Number: 1934
To: STUART CAPORN Date: 08/27/93 11:14a
Subj: Questions, questions ... Refer: NONE
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You really can't daisy chain devices on a sound card, but if you have a
scsi card it's alright. About OS2 running of CD-ROM, nope! You must
install it from one. They just put it on a cd because it would take up
too many disks (and probably too much hard disk space also!). About the
access time, I'm not sure. Mine has 320 ms so I guess they won't get my
buisness!
Randy
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From: RANDY MCANALLY Number: 1935
To: VICTOR ZDANOWICZ Date: 08/27/93 11:16a
Subj: CD-ROM Refer: NONE
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Check out the panasonics or NECs. They have some good prices (I don't
have the exact #), great quality!
Randy
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From: RANDY MCANALLY Number: 1936
To: PAUL NUSBAUM Date: 08/27/93 11:18a
Subj: 7th Guest incompatibiliti Refer: NONE
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My friend has seventh guest with a Sound Galaxy NX Pro (which is
compatible with almost ALL other cards), and about a minute of music
played directly off the CD won't pass through the card for some reason.
Headphones must be used.
Randy
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From: RANDY MCANALLY Number: 1937
To: DANA REPOUILLE Date: 08/27/93 11:20a
Subj: Adaptec 6260 drivers Refer: NONE
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I've replied to numerous complaints about that damn adaptec SCSI card!!!
Just toss it and get a SCSI compatible sound card! That's what I had to
do. Everything now works perfect.
Randy
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From: RANDY MCANALLY Number: 1938
To: JACKSON CHAU Date: 08/27/93 11:22a
Subj: CD'S Refer: NONE
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In this echo there are tons of them for sale. Just take some time and
look.
Randy
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From: RANDY MCANALLY Number: 1939
To: JEFF WEBSTER Date: 08/27/93 11:23a
Subj: Cd-Rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Try the MonsterDisc II
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From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 1940
To: GEOFF MOEHLE Date: 08/28/93 11:10a
Subj: panasonic Refer: NONE
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-> Hello!!!!!!! I was thinking about buying a double speed CD-ROM from
-> panasonic...however I was wondering about the 350 milisecond access
-> time...is that REAL slow?????? Would that cause problems???/ The
-> transfer rate is a 300mb/second...and I was wondering on how that
-> might be!!!!!!!! Anyone who can tell me anything about my questions
-> would be greatfully helpful!!!!!!!!!!!
I can tell you what access time and transfer rate means. You're
mistaken panasonic is 320ms access time not 350. As for the top brand
drives that are 200ms if you compare the speed its only 33% faster which
ain't that noticable. The access time represents the worst time it
takes to move the laser beam across the disc. The transfer rate is far
more important than the access time the transfer rate is after the laser
beam goes to the right location it starts reading the data off the disc
that is the transfer rate. The reason why its 300kb/sec transfer rate
instead of 150kb/sec transfer rate is because its a double speed drive
what makes it transfer more per second is the speed of the spinning disc
just like a record album if you put it on fast forward it will start
reading faster. So you shouldn't be alarmed about the access time its
decent enough the only worst thing is if you have a program that has
hundreds of small 10k files and it has to access all of them then that
would take a few seconds more of time i noticed if you use dosshell to
scan directories it can scan 100 directories in a second with a 16ms
hard drive it can do 1000 in a second you can also go by that type of
scanning rate.
Louis
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From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 1941
To: LISA HUTTER Date: 08/28/93 2:52p
Subj: My New cd-rom! help Refer: NONE
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-> Hi All,
-> I've just recently installed a panisonic CD-Rom and I'm not sure how
-> to get the most out of it...I thought that I'd be able to play
-> musical CD's while working in Windows, etc...Of course this isn't the
-> only reason I made this purchase but I'd thought it would be a fun
-> feature.
->
-> Can anyone give me some advice as to how to make the most of my new
-> "toy"?
You should be able to play music cd's on your cdrom the only problem
is you don't have any cd music software that will tell your cdrom player
to play the musica cd's there are some shareware music cd players you
can pick up on your local board check for cd under windows directory or
if you have the sound blaster 16 package it comes with a music cd player
included in the disks.
Louis
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From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 1942
To: DON BOSMAN Date: 08/28/93 2:55p
Subj: cr562, 563, info wanted Refer: NONE
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-> I have been reading here for a while and have a few questions.
-> The Panasonic CR562b seems to be the drive of choice.
-> What is the difference between it and the 563? Is there a difference
-> between the 562 and the 562b?
There is no 562 theres just the 562b and the 563 the 563 is the same
as the 562b the only difference is the 563 model is to be sold as a
creative labs multimedia package with the sound blaster 16 as to the
562b is sold seperately but you can still buy the sound blaster 16
seperate and 562b and still be allowed to connect the cdrom directly to
the sound blaster 16 without the need of the interface card.
-> Can two or more 562's be daisy chained on the SB Pro 16?
The answer to that is no
-> I have a SB Pro 16, used to have the drive (522 I think) that came in
-> the Creative Labs kit. Can the 562x just plug and play using the
-> same settings that came with the kit's setup?
Just buy the 562b drive and you shall be able to connect it directly
to the sound blaster 16 but since you didn't buy the sound blaster 16 at
the time they released the sound blaster cd driver so the sound blaster
16 will accept the cdrom you can get it off the boards should be called
cr562.zip or along the lines or call up creative labs and find out how
to get the drivers for it.
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From: DONALD WEN Number: 1943
To: LOTHAR KUENZEL Date: 08/27/93 9:28p
Subj: Te koop diverse cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
So...would you happen to know what Jurrie wrote in his message?
DONALD WEN
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From: MICHAEL CROSSON Number: 1944
To: ALL Date: 08/28/93 11:33a
Subj: Jem Disk CD-Rom Trade In Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Send us your old CD-Rom (in good condition) and $14.95 and we'll send you Jem
Disc I shareware CD-Rom collection. Jem Disc was printed last fall and
contains many timeless files. Due to it's super selection of BBS related
files, it's a must for all sysops! Integration with bbs software is EZ!
The current price without trade in is $19.95 plus S/H so this deal represents
a savings of $10. HURRY - offer ends 9/15/93!
For more information FREQ from 1:203/49 -
JEMTRADE - for the trade in special order form (5k)
JEMDISC - regular order form for those without something to trade (5k)
JEMFILES - complete FILES.BBS file listings (250k)
Or call my BBS at (916)921-9949 and download these files from my logon matrix
(enter JEM at the Dos prompt) - I have a v.32bis modem online.
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From: DIANA KIRKSEY Number: 1945
To: SHAUN RADER Date: 08/28/93 9:32a
Subj: 7th guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SR>Yeah, I got 1%, how did you get 40%? I have the Trident 8900 card too!
SR>What type of computer do you have? I have the Diamond Stealth now,
SR>which is great in Windows, but I still have my Trident (as a backup).
SR> -Shaun Rader- I just have an 386dx-40(hoping
to upgrade to 486 soon).It probably has something to do with the configuration
set up(just guessing<grin>).
TTYL
Diana
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From: DIANA KIRKSEY Number: 1946
To: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Date: 08/28/93 8:13a
Subj: RE: Re: new mpc specs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
My Trident Card is the 16-bit version with 1Meg RAM.We must have
different Video cards.
Diana
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From: ADRIAN VERGOT Number: 1947
To: BETH CORRIGAN Date: 08/28/93 11:58a
Subj: kodak photo CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
FYI, Egghead Software just started selling Kodak Photo CD "Mailer" pouches.
For $17 you can stuff a 24 roll film into the mailer and get a photo CD-Back in
a couple of days. For a little more $, you can get mailers that will get you
the photo CD and double prints. They have several packages available. Hope
this helps you out. If not, I've got the addresses of the PA Photo CD
locations...
- Adrain
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From: LEN GLADSTONE Number: 1948
To: SYLV JUMAGA Date: 08/27/93 12:38p
Subj: Canadian cdrom dealers?? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SJ>I was wondering if there are any *CANADIAN* companies out there that
SJ>are selling CD-ROM drives and/or CD's . . . I see all sorts of ads
SJ>posted here, but am dismayed when I realize their area codes are in
SJ>the U.S. and there is no mention of the ability to ship to Canada,
Sylv, try CD-Rom Wholesalers of Canada, 6 Armstrong Bay, Regina Sask. S4N 4G7
Ph (306) 789-4654 voice. Contact Vince &/or Michellea Sorensen.
They have been great to deal with for both prices and service. They sell Night
Owl 9 for $35.00 Cdn + $2.00 S&H. GST included compared to $25.00 US (best
price I've seen on this echo)plus $? S&H PLUS GST at the post office, and soon
I hear, PST at the post office! Also NO CUSTOMS DELAY!
Len Gladstone
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From: JOHN RICKERSON Number: 1949
To: DOUGLAS NEUMAN Date: 08/28/93 10:49p
Subj: CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> I have a NEC CDR-72 available for a small price of $130US that comes
> with its own controller, but it is a true scsi drive so it can be
> connected to a scsi controller. This is an external drive with access
> speed of 380 ms and transfer speed of upto 150K but it does not have
> internal circuitry to be MPC compatible. But for BBS use it would be an
> excellent drive. I will include software drivers that you will need for
> the NEC controller board that is being included. It also comes with 5
> caddys. Call me at (914)351-3325 in the evening (after 6EDT) or at
> (201)818-3547 during the day.
Can these drives be daisy chained? And if so how many?
Thanks
John
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From: SHAUN RADER Number: 1950
To: GEOFF MOEHLE Date: 08/28/93 5:32p
Subj: Panasonic Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
<<***** GEOFF MOEHLE wrote this on 08-25─93 {May be edited} *****>>
─>Hello!!!!!!! I was thinking about buying a double speed CD-ROM from
─>panasonic...however I was wondering about the 350 milisecond access
─>time...is that REAL slow?????? Would that cause problems???/ The
─>transfer rate is a 300mb/second...and I was wondering on how that migh
─>be!!!!!!!! Anyone who can tell me anything about my questions would be
─>greatfully helpful!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks!!!! Geoff
─>Moehle!
I have read that the transfer rate is more important then the access
time. I have a 390ms access time and 150K transfer rate, and it seems
pretty fast to me. I think 350ms access time is just fine.
-Shaun Rader-
-Madman@Liberty.Com-
08/28/93 16:57
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 1951
To: DEVIN WOOD Date: 08/28/93 3:38p
Subj: Re: NEC CDR-84 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DW> I've been considering this drive. I have a concern though. I'm a
DW> quadriplegic and can't move my fingers. I need a drive with a caddy so
DW> I don't ruin my CDs. I'm trying to find out about the doors. Needing
DW> to use both hands to insert ther disk, I won't be able to hold a door
DW> open while I do it. How are the doors set up?
I don't know for certain about this drive in particular, but every
caddy drive that I have seen has a spring loaded primary door and a
mechanically driven secondary door. When one inserts the caddy, the primary
door (which is usually a different color than the secondary door, and often is
labeled "EMPTY", or some such) simply folds down out of the way. When the
caddy is fully inserted, the secondary door comes down, letting you know that
the caddy is properly seated, and that there is a disk in the drive.
DW> It's hard for me to get out to see for myself. Would anyone recommend
DW> another drive with similar features that they consider superior?
IMHO, the most superior drive commonly available is the Pioneer
DRM-604X. It is a bit pricey, so if you are on a tight budget, it may not be
for you. However, the caddies hold SIX disks at a time, and the drive
automatically switches between the requested CD's. This can easily reduce the
number of times you will have to switch CD's by a factor of at least six, or if
you almost never run more than six CD's, it will prevent you from having to do
any switching at all. This drive sounds ideal for you, if you can afford it.
The best street prices are a bit above $1100. It utilizes a SCSI interface, so
if you can afford two, you can easily chain two of them together to allow you
to access 12 CD's on a regular basis, without ever having to swap at all. If
you have the budget, and regularly use more than 12 CD's, there are CD changers
available that support 100 CD's in the $5000 range. However, changing the
caddies on the DRM-604X is very easy, even without the use of your fingers. It
is even easier, if anything, than regular caddy drives. The caddy does have to
be pushed into a recess, and you may have to use a pencil or pointer (do you
use a pointer to type?) to seat the magazine, but the force required is
minimal. The eject button is flush with the front surface, easily available,
and nowhere near any other controls. It is also a soft touch, so should
present few problems for you.
All in all, I think that one or two of the Pioneer drives will be your
best solution, if you can afford them. They are SCSI-2, support MPC-2, and can
easily be used for software motion video. IF you want to run OS/2 2.1, the
pioneer drives with an Adaptec 1542 (ISA) or 1742 (EISA) SCSI host adapter is
supported right out of the box, and installed automatically.
Les
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 1952
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 08/28/93 3:38p
Subj: Re: Cd-rom help! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
HP> -> 1998848 bytes free EMS memory
HP> ->
HP> -> 2031616 bytes total XMS memory
HP> -> 2031616 bytes available XMS memory
HP> -> 0 bytes available contiguous extended memory
HP> -> DOS resident in High Memory Area
HP> -> High Memory Area in use
HP> ->
HP> -> Unlike with QEMM, if I were to use, say, 16M of that EMS memo
HP> -> would still have the 20M of XMS available. OF course, if I wanted to
HP> -> graphics in this window, I could have about 696K free, instead of 632
HP> -> What's more, all of my other DOS sessions could still use graphics!
HP> -> this is available with an 850 Meg C: drive, a Pioneer DRM-604X six pa
HP> Are you saying you have over 40mb of memory? The numbers you list show
HP> about 2.5mb each, did you get your numbers crossed? I do sometimes. I
HP> saw a guy in HS modems even that said he had a 12000 modem, I think he
HP> meant 1200.
Nope, I'm saying that OS/2 is a great OS that knows how to implement
virtual memory properly. I have (at the moment) 16 Megs of physical RAM, but
each and every DOS session, both VDM and VMB, can have up to 16 Megs of XMS
PLUS, 32 Megs of EMS PLUS, up to 736K of conventional and 200K or so of UMB,
until I run out of hard drive space. (with an 800 Meg drive, that will be a
while). Virtual memory is allocated dynamically, so even with many dozens of
megs of memory allocated, hard drive swapping does not start until the active
applications (not loaded but idle ones) actually exceed the physical memory
limit. At that point, the system will usually see a significant slowdown,
although not necessarily an unacceptable one, short term.
Oh, and some 12,000bps modems WERE manufactured, although they were
quickly overshadowed by 14,400 HST and v.32bis modems. However, this has all
drifted *WAY* off topic. If you wish to continue in this vein, why don't you
meet me on the OS2HW echo?
Les
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 1953
To: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Date: 08/28/93 3:38p
Subj: Re: New Mpc Specs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GM>> Yes, well. They are available if that's what you mean,
GM>> but they sure aren't that AFFORDABLE, are they? By the
LR> Compared to what? I have a system that
GM> easily exceeds all the
LR> specs given.
GM> Leslie, the fact that you have such a system does not make it any cheaper.
GM> BTW, my SVGA card is a stinking 8-bit, alias 256 colors AFAIK.
My point is that affordability is a relative term. Such a system is
certainly very affordable compared with a Mercedes or a Porsche in their
respective markets. I was able to easily afford this system, and I am far, far
from being rich. Heck, such a system is fairly affordable compared with an
original IBM XT at the time (1980).
Les
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 1954
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/27/93 5:42p
Subj: PRECISION MAPPING Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MS>Which version do you have? The new version 1.5b has much improved
>city search and zooming features, plus an addendum to the manual, which
>explains a lot more. If you have version 1.2, you might consider
>sending it to S&S for an upgrade.
I saw your upgrade message shortly after asking the question. I
received my upgrade just a few days after returning it. I am VERY
impressed with their service AND their product. It works great just by
doing what I tried with the other version. Maybe I am not as dumb as I
thought. <G>
Jim...
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 1955
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/27/93 5:46p
Subj: NEW CD-SOUTHERN BEAUTIES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MS>Well whatever. <sigh> I've asked him three times to explain it, with
>no reply (that I've seen) to date. Still a good looking CD, but I doubt
>that a lot of sysops will be buying it. 8)
Yes, I agree. I am not going to build up much of a stockpile of them
myself. Sysops are my mainstay, and I know it. :) Btw, what do you
think of Luscious Ladies (the CD that is). <G> It has a files.bbs in
each directory, but no file lists with dates and sizes included. That
will eliminate many BBS types, but it does look nice from what I have
seen. It is DEFINITELY the best looking cover I have seen so far.
Jim...
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 1956
To: MANESH RAMA Date: 08/27/93 8:02p
Subj: encyclopedia's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MR>hey, i wuz wondering if anyone can get me a cheap encylcopedia
>cd for about under $50 or how bout a trade.
>oh and how good is a groliers encylcopedia
I can get you a new Groliers in that price range. Do you want the DOS
or Windows version? Give me a call if you would like a catalog or more
details, or call the Computer Works BBS and download catalog.zip. It
has all the CD-Rom descriptions included.
Computer Works Jim...
CD-Rom Sales!
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card & COD Orders
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From: ERIC HSIAO Number: 1957
To: JOHN ROBERTSON Date: 08/28/93 6:08p
Subj: Speedcache & disc caddies Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Actually, frosted is a better word to describe the outer corners. On two the
corners, it says "OPEN" with arrows pointing inward, and on one of the other
corners, there's a box with the word CD Caddy written in it. On the part that
goes into the drive first, it says THIS SIDE FACES FORWARD. There's also an
arrow in the middle pointing that direction also. On the bottom, there'a an A
written on one side and a B on the opposite side. Overall, I went into
Software Etc and Babbages again to compare what they had on the shelf to what I
bought at the computer fair and they looked indentical. If these are
counterfeits, they're really good it matching the real thing, else they are the
real thing, just priced at a reasonable price. I really don't see how anyone
could charge $11 for a CD Caddy.
- Eric
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From: MIKE AVILA Number: 1958
To: LAURIE BATT Date: 08/28/93 4:57p
Subj: 16 bit cards Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> G'day Mike, In a message on <Aug 21>, you said :
->
->
->
-> MA> *** Quoting Rowan Evans to Joel Dumas dated 08-18-93 ***
-> >>
-> >> A dealer tried to interest me in a PAS 16/Texel... They
-> >> wanted over $1300.00 for the combo and, (they also sold the
-> >> SB kit!) when SHOWN
->
-> MA> WOW! That is an outragous price. I got the Texel drive and
-> MA> the PAStudio16 at different times but from the same place
-> MA> and total cost including shipping was under $750 (don't
-> MA> remember EXACT amount). Matter of a fact I believe it was
-> MA> just under $725.
->
-> You obviously didnt realise that Rowan and Joel are both in Australi
-> $750 US dollars converts to about $1100 Ozzie Dollars, add the import
-> duty/sales tax and that brings to around $1300
->
->
->
-> Laurie
->
->
-> --- msgedsq 2.2b
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WOW! (Again<GRIN>) I feel for you people there. Buying CD equipment
and discs (and all computer equipment?) must really set you back.
I didn't realize where they were. I guess I didn't catch the tagline
address. THANKS for pointing it out to me.
Mike
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From: PHILIP WHEAT Number: 1959
To: EDWARD PALMER Date: 08/28/93 3:49p
Subj: NEC CDR-25 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> You're welcome, Steve. By the way, I noticed another reply to you from
>
> Eric Ho. He said that the drive couldn't be daisy-chained because it
> only
> had one connector. In case you're not familiar with SCSI, he's only
> half
> right. The drive does have only one connector, but you can still
> daisy-chain it if you make it the last drive on the chain.
>
> Ed
Ed,
Note that you don't even have to make the drive the last in the chain if
you don't want to. You just need to get a cable made that has one of the
centronics 50 connectors in the middle of the cable and then turn off
termination on the drive in the middle. That's all that's happening in
a SCSI passthrough anyway.
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From: DON KULHA Number: 1960
To: ALL Date: 08/28/93 8:33p
Subj: Apple Service Info CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
** Surplus Apple Service Info CD-ROM (January 1993 Edition) $18 Delivered! **
This disc contains over 75mb of valuble information on servicing Apple
products including all CPU's (128's to Powerbooks), Monitors, Printers, net-
work products and more in hypercard format. Included are exploded views,
disasembly/diagnostic/adjustment procedures, service bulletins, safety tips,
movies, wiring diagrams....a wealth of information. If you've got a Mac and
CDROM (or access to one) this disc can be a great resource and save you $$$.
This is the disc Apple sends it's dealers...Now you can have it too!. New in
jewel case with sealed plastic overwrap. Only 115 pieces left!
*** Send SASE for our new brochure or $18 to order (Check or Money order) ***
Sonoma Online, P.O. Box 7518, Santa Rosa, CA 95407 (707.545.7533 Voice)
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From: DALE KANEY Number: 1961
To: DAVE DAVIDSON Date: 08/27/93 12:22p
Subj: O.D.'s using Desktop Publishing for their Newsletter Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Are you aware of any O.D.'s using commercially available software for their
desktop publishing of their office newsletter? I asked a consultant and she
gave me the names of two programs for about $600.-$700. They seemed to be a
lot more than I needed( rotating graphics,etc.) . I believe they were
"Pagemaker" & QuarkXpress. Anyone have any other suggestion?
--- GEcho 1.01+
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From: DOUG SCHWANTES Number: 1962
To: ALL Date: 08/26/93 3:36p
Subj: CD-ROM disk cache Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone out there know of a good disk cache for a CD-ROM?
... Catch the Blue Wave!
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From: JOE HAYES Number: 1963
To: DON KULHA Date: 08/25/93 1:19p
Subj: CDROM Slows BBS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DK> I have no idea what the list is. Have a friend selling it for
DK> $40 per node. As far as I know the lantastic 2mbps cards don't work
DK> with anything but lantastic. I'd sell them with lantastic to someone
DK> and switch over to 10mbps coax ethernet cards which can be had for
DK> $65 for new NE2000 clones or used 3Com cards. I think your CDROM
DK> would respond very positively to the faster interface cards and
DK> faster network software. I used to have collisions with my 7 cdroms
DK> that would lockup and kill Lantastic. Not so with the WEB Nos.
DK> DCK
Well it's worth a try, I am adding 4 more drives that will bring the total up
to 11, so I probably will encounter more and more problems..
Thanks again..
-Joe
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From: STAN REED Number: 1964
To: BOB HALL Date: 08/26/93 8:35p
Subj: Re: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
-=> Quoting Bob Hall to All <=-
BH> Regarding the rules of this echo, and the topic of adult CDROM's, I
tons of stuff removed to save space
BH> Bob Hall
Bob,
Thanks, this is what I was curious about! I can't object to any of
your reasons and with the federal and state laws being such as they are
I can understand your position. I think it might have helped matters if
this had been posted before your rule change but then again you might
have had your reasons for posting the change first.
Thanks for the info,
Stan
... Black Holes were created when God divided by zero!
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From: JOHN TUCKY Number: 1965
To: STEPHEN COCHRAN Date: 08/26/93 8:49a
Subj: Re: Looking for anatomy CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Hi, I am searching for a CD-ROM that contains images and information
>similar to that found in Gray's Anatomy (the standard handbook). I
>specifically need access to illustrations of the skeletal and nervous
>systems. If anyone knows of such a beast, and could point me to the
>correct publisher, I would be very grateful. Thanks in advance!
There is one available. Actually the entire body takes up several disks. These
disks were made by medical artists and are stored as SVGA (1024x768). The
illustrations are so good they are used in pre-med for initial anatomy
lessons. The parts og the body can be removed 'layer by layer'. The disks
are also _very_ expensive.
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From: STEPHEN KOVACSISS Number: 1966
To: MARLIN ROWLEY Date: 08/28/93 9:28a
Subj: EXPLAIN SOUND CARDS TO ME Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 08-24-93 MARLIN ROWLEY wrote to STEPHEN KOVACSISS...
MR> I found this information in the PC Magazine article concerning Sound
MR> cards
MR> and they stated that the Ultra Gravis Sound card can "record at 16-bit
MR> 44khz,
MR> and 12-bit playback at 32khz." Whether this is true or not, I don't
MR> know.
MR> I'm not trying to start a sound war here, so if I'm wrong then I'm
MR> wrong.
MR>
MR>
MR> --- WM v3.01/91-0239
MR> * Origin: Nite-Air BBS System(315) (1:2609/3.0)
I wouldn't say that you are wrong, I would say that PC Mag's info is wrong.
The UltraSound does have 16-bit playback at 44kHz.
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From: POE LIM Number: 1967
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 08/28/93 10:10p
Subj: Re: Files.bbs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Bob,
On Aug 25 08:43 in a msg to Tim Helton, Bob Jackson of 1:106/30 wrote:
> I've just used the name I found on the CD. I think I'll start
> describing the contents (e.g. what stuff starts in what column, etc.)
> so sysops can understand what to expect.
Probably easier to quote an example FILES.BBS entry; unfortunately depending on
setup, everyone have different ideas as to what is required, and taking the
Night Owl as an example, even though it is somewhat compatible with Maximus,
they way it's set out means a fair bit of editing (I don't use download
counters, and the extra "|" is fairly annoying personally).
Cheers,
Poe
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From: POE LIM Number: 1968
To: DEVIN WOOD Date: 08/28/93 10:48p
Subj: NEC CDR-84 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Devin,
On Aug 26 12:51 in a msg to Those In The Know, Devin Wood of 1:322/360 wrote:
> so I don't ruin my CDs. I'm trying to find out about the doors.
> Needing to use both hands to insert ther disk, I won't be able to
> hold a door open while I do it. How are the doors set up?
Not sure about the 84, but the Toshiba 3401 has motorised loading (once you
push the CD caddy beyound a certain point, the reader pulls it in), motorised
eject (just push the button lightly, and the caddy is ejected). The door flips
down, then stays down until you flip it close again (same when you eject the
caddy); is this what you were thinking of?
Cheers,
Poe
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From: GREG DUFFUS Number: 1969
To: RAFAL TROJANOWSKI Date: 08/25/93 11:21p
Subj: Do you ever study? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey Raf man, I thought I'd just let you know that you have a couple of
assignments due next Friday. Seeya.....
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From: LAURIE BATT Number: 1970
To: PHIL HORNBY Date: 08/27/93 9:36a
Subj: Mistumi/Sb/Sbpro Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* On Aug 19 23:08 Phil Hornby quoth this to Mark Womack
MW>> I wonder what output goes to the speaker - the sound
MW>> output?
PH> No, it's the other way round....the beeps that would have
PH> gone to the internal speaker, get redirected to the
PH> SoundBlaster.
PH> I don't know if my motherboard is unusual, but I had a wire
PH> a 3K3 resistor in series with the speaker o/p, to reduce
PH> the volume a bit. Without it, the beeps came out as
PH> {{{{{BEEPS}}}}}} :-)
You are not alone, I had the same problem a few years ago, cant remember the
value I used but eventually removed it and returned the spkr setting to normal.
Laurie
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From: MICHAEL TURNER-CRAIG Number: 1971
To: ROB MCINTYRE Date: 08/26/93 12:46p
Subj: CD LIQUIDATION! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RM>What is the JEDI Collection ? Is it a Star Wars library ?
Dear Rob,
If you find out what the JEDI collection is and if it is related to
Star Wars could you please drop me a few lines on where to get it and price etc
etc...
Thanx
.\\ichael Turner-Craig
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From: MICHAEL TURNER-CRAIG Number: 1972
To: JIM FREDERICK Date: 08/26/93 12:50p
Subj: 7th Guest... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JF> I'm having problems with 7Th guest. I bought it when it first came
JF>the meantime I upgraded from DOS 5 to DOS 6.... now it won't work at
JF>all. Has anyone else had this problem? My settings in my config and
JF>autoexec are the same, I have even more free memory. What's the
JF>problem? I'm open to suggestions..... thanks. Jim.
Jim , DOS 6 was just a BAD idea!!! i would advise you go back to DOS 5. as it
is much more stable.. every day people are findong more and more things wrong
with Dos 6 and i have de-installed my copy and gone back to dos 3.3...
everything is compat with it so i see no need to go any further.. unless you
need the new commands or the exta directory structure!!.. cool
.\\ichael turner-craig
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From: MALCOLM YOUNG Number: 1973
To: BRENDAN FARTHING Date: 08/27/93 7:42p
Subj: Aust. Phone Disc Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Brendan,
> Also, does anyone know the difference between the one that sells for
> about $1500.00 (I think it's called Aus On Disc) and the one that sells
> for about $50.00 (This one is called Australian Phone Disk).
> The one that sells for $50 contains the entire Yellow and White Pages
> for every state in Australia.
The $50 disc is used like phone book you can search for the phone number for a
name or type of business or find who has a phone number. If you search for a
name like Smith the program will then let you break the list down by state ,
postcode , suburb or initials but you can't start a search with these fields.
> Why is there such a HUGE price difference between that disk and the
> $1500.00 one ??????
The other disc is a set of two (business/residential) the $1500 is a license
fee which has to be renewed each year for $560, FREE updates are produced in
March and September.
This disc will allow the search in any of the fields that are on the disc the
business disc has even has the ASIC code on it and can be used to produce
mailing lists a land agent could use it to send a personalised letter to each
householder in a given area selected by postcode or even street.
The $50 disc is useful as a phone book substitute but is not suited to
producing mailing lists.
The other disc has more commercial potential and it is sold for what people are
willing to pay for it.
As the data on the discs is similar the main difference is on the $1500 disc
you can get to it easier (more index files ?) I can see no reason for the large
price difference.
Regards, Malcolm.
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From: SUNNY LEUNG Number: 1974
To: ALL Date: 08/27/93 6:48p
Subj: Writable CD-ROM's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello everybody.
While doing a case study for my Systems Analysis and Design course,
I came upon several problems involving CD-ROM's.
Can you produce your own CD's?
Suppose you wrote some files on a CD-ROM. Is it possible to add more files
to the CD?
Can you erase a CD and reuse it?
What's the difference between a CD and a optical disk (and what's a WORM
drive)?
Regards, Sunny.
--- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR]
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From: DAVID ADKINS Number: 1975
To: SUNNY LEUNG Date: 08/26/93 11:45a
Subj: Panasonic 562/563 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Hi everybody,
->
-> I've got a SB 16ASP hooked up to the old SB Pro CD-ROM. I'm thinking
-> upgrading to the new Panasonic double speed drive. Does anyone in Aus
-> supply this drive, and what would be the price?
->
They are advertised in the Melbourne Age Green Guide this week
Haven't got it to hand at this ttime
regards
David
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From: JON DERAGON Number: 1976
To: JIM FREDERICK Date: 08/27/93 6:37p
Subj: 7th Guest... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey there! Well, version 6 of DOS has known glitches in it, MS is trying to
decide whether it will be bring out a fix upgrade for it or just wait till DOS
7, which will be out relativly soon catoring more to enhancing the supplied
utilities and to improve its network capabilities. It also depends on your
system. If your system is an older model there is many reports of people having
problems of working software with DOS 6 with older systems.
One other thing, although it dosnt have much relevence to 7th Guest (holy
awesome game at that), I got the speciallised Stacker for DOS 6 and it really
sucks hard. With normal Double Space, although its slow it always worked
flawlessly and there was never any unallocated blocks of data. Now that I have
switched to Stacker, my system freezes up, there is plenty of unallocated data
when it feels it would tee me off and the list goes on, so . DONT BOTHER
WASTING YOUR MONEY.
Later
Jon Deragon
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From: LINDSAY CHISHOLM Number: 1977
To: BRENDAN FARTHING Date: 08/28/93 6:38a
Subj: Aust. Phone Disc Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BF>MSGID: 3:712/218@FidoNet 6c5e440e
BF>Has anyone used the Australian Phone Book CD ?
BF>Also, does anyone know the difference between the one that sells for
BF>about $1500.00 (I think it's called Aus On Disc) and the one that sells
BF>for about $50.00 (This one is called Australian Phone Disk).
BF>The one that sells for $50 contains the entire Yellow and White Pages
BF>for every state in Australia.
BF>Why is there such a HUGE price difference between that disk and the
BF>$1500.00 one ??????
BF>Anyone that knows please reply,
BF>Regards,
BF>Brendan Farthing.
BF>--- Ezycom V1.02 00f90022
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BF>(3:712/218)
The company i work for has the $1500.00 one and it is software that
allows access to Telecom so as to list any person at anytime despite
several moves by that person! Whereas the as you said the $50.00 one is
just a list of the yellow and white pages, so if they move that number
is wrong....cya
--- SLMR 2.1a Nothing is so smiple that it can't get screwed up.
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From: BRENDAN FARTHING Number: 1978
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/28/93 11:46a
Subj: Re: Aust. Phone Disc Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CC>>> Also, does anyone know the difference between the one that
CC>>> sells for about $1500.00 (I think it's called Aus On Disc) and
CC>>> the one that sells for about $50.00 (This one is called
CC>>> Australian Phone Disk).
CC>>> The one that sells for $50 contains the entire Yellow and
CC>>> White Pages for every state in Australia.
CC>>> Why is there such a HUGE price difference between that disk
CC>>> and the $1500.00 one ??????
CC>Simple! The one for $1500. offers an up to date database,
CC>while the other
CC>one ( Phone Disk ) is nothing more than scans from the phone
CC>book, which can
CC>mean you would get a lot of " This number has been
CC>disconnected " messages.
The $50 phone disk is updated twice a year, how often is the $1500.00 disk ?
CC>Also, Aus On Disk offers a more features than does Phone
CC>Disk. As they say,
Do you know what extra features it has ?
For an extra $1450.00 I hope it has heaps.
Also, I would hate to have to outlay $1500.00 every time I wanted an up to
date disk. $50 sound more reasonable every 6 months.
I also have access to the Telecom Computer Phone books which are up to date on
a daily basis but that is the most UN-USER FRIENDLY piece of s#*t I have ever
used in my life.
Thanks for the info,
Brendan Farthing.
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From: DARIN CELINO Number: 1979
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 08/28/93 9:19p
Subj: ADVICE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> >Not sure of this.....but I think that the PAS 16 has a kit available
-> >Mitsumi from the CD port.
->
-> There is no such thing - though the PAS16 SCSI port will work with a
-> of drives, the Mitsumi is NOT among them.
-> You may be thinking of the ATI FX/CD sound card, which DOES have a M
-> compatable port on it....
Come on Brice.....I haven't even been in this echo for over a month
now. Why don't you just delete all those old packets and start with
current stuff.
--- WM v3.00/92-0084
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From: RANDY RUZICKA Number: 1980
To: DEVIN WOOD Date: 08/28/93 4:23p
Subj: NEC CDR-84 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Devin, I bought the NEC-84 (instead of a caddy-less CD ROM) because
I am handicappedI had the same concern as you about mishandling
CD's. I have zero percent finger mobility in my left hand and 50 percent
in my right. I am by nature right-handed. I hold the door open with
my left hand and insert with my right. I do it carefully as to not
break the door although the door is probably stronger than I think
it is. I like the drive alot. I would definately opt for a caddy
drive and the NEC is top of the line. Hope this was of some help
to you.
--- TMail v1.31.3
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 1981
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/29/93 1:48a
Subj: Re: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PL> The main advantage of a caddy system (IMHO) is when you frequently
PL> swap disks; much easier having them in caddies, and merely shove
PL> them in, then having to fiddle around with the case. You
PL> can also leave a few of them around and not worry about scratches.
RE> You're a dealer aren't you Poe?? Its probably cheaper for you to get
RE> caddies than it is for the average user....
Perhaps. Margins are pretty slim on that sort of thing.
RE> Most users I know of with caddy type drives can only afford one caddy
Oh, get REAL! Caddies are about $4 each in packs of 5. If one cannot
afford $43 for a caddy, how can one afford $25-$100 for the software and $250
for the drive?
Les
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 1982
To: ALL Date: 08/29/93 12:46a
Subj: OS/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
==================== OS2 ON CD For Only $65.00 ? ====================
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Until Septemeber 14, 1993 you can purchase the complete OS/2 v2.21
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Here's how it works, purchase OS/2 v 2.21 for $95.00 and mail in the
rebate coupon to IBM and get a $30. rebate direct from them, bottom
line is the new version of OS/2 is yours for only $65.
Call NOW and get your copy today! ORDER LINE ONLY 800-243-0517
Boris Osadciw
... Press F1 to Reboot
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 1983
To: ALL Date: 08/29/93 12:46a
Subj: RED HOT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
$$$$$$$ R E D H O T C D' S A T R E D H O T P R I C E S $$$$$$$
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CALL 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) OR 216-225-3263 FOR ADDITIONAL INFO
Boris Osadciw
... I married the Mail Lady!
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From: PAUL SWIDER Number: 1984
To: GEOFF MOEHLE Date: 08/28/93 1:07p
Subj: panasonic Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 08-25-93 Geoff Moehle wrote to All...
GM> Hello!!!!!!! I was thinking about buying a double speed CD-
GM> ROM from panasonic...however I was wondering about the 350
GM> milisecond access time...is that REAL slow?????? Would
GM> that cause problems???/ The transfer rate is a
GM> 300mb/second...
^^^^^^^^^
I think you mean Kb/sec. or else you really have a "souped up" 562 ;).
I just installed a Panasonic 562 in my daughter's computer and it seems
to work just fine. I ran a program called CDBENCH on the MEGASEARCH DEMO
CD and the specs came out as follows:
1/3 Stroke seek time 256.4ms
Random seek time 157.5ms
1/3 Stroke seek and Read 415.8ms
Sustained Long Read 310310.3 Bytes/sec.
" Short " 307807.8 Bytes/sec.
MegaSearch Benchmark 17.8 secs.
This is just a relative thing used to check one CDROM drive to another. I
would like to see the results against a Toshiba 3401 or a Texel 3024...
(hint ..hint..if anybody else is reading this msg and has this CD and the
named drives :) )
As for 350msec being slow.. again this is relative. Remember 100ms equals
1/10 of a second. The fact that once the drive gets to the data it has to
transfer it'll be doing it at the double speed rate on the 562. For the
money it seems to be a nice drive..my opinion of course. Hope this helps.
>Paul<
... OFFLINE 1.50 "I never nake misteakes."
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From: JAN WILLEM RUYS Number: 1985
To: PHIL HORNBY Date: 08/24/93 8:53p
Subj: Mistumi/Sb/Sbpro Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PH> I don't know if my motherboard is unusual, but I had a wire a 3K3
PH> resistor in series with the speaker o/p, to reduce the volume a bit.
PH> Without it, the beeps came out as {{{{{BEEPS}}}}}} :-)
Same here. I ended up with 2K2, so we were close...
_/an Willem
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From: TOM ARRUDA Number: 1986
To: ALL Date: 08/29/93 11:41a
Subj: Need Number Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have recently purchased a CR-562B drive from MPS. I am running from a
Sound Blaster 16 card. I have had nothing but problems with the drive.
It constantly causes "General Protection faults" when run in Windows. I
have the "Seventh Guest" and "Day of the Tentacle" that run under dos,
both lock up and halt the entire system. I am using a 486dx33 with 8megs
of ram ,DOS 6.0, MSCDEX 2.2,Qemm7.0, Norton SpeedCache 4.0. I need the
number for Creative Labs BBS. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.
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From: CR HAMILTON Number: 1987
To: LUIS CARVAJAL Date: 08/29/93 7:50a
Subj: Kodak Photo CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Luis Carvajal wrote in a message to All:
LC> Does anyone know what exactly should I need in order to
LC> see pictures from a CD?
LC> This is what I own:
LC> - A Soundblaster CD-ROM
LC> - Corel Draw 3.0 (I think this is also useful..)
Requirements: A photo-CD compatible drive (preferably multisession)
Photo-CD Software (by Kodak of one of the licensees)
A Photo-CD (either yours that you have had made, or one
from one of the stock companies...)
I don't think that a SB or Corel Draw are going to enter into it one way or
another....
CR
--- timEd-B9
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From: DEVIN WOOD Number: 1988
To: YVES DESJARDINS Date: 08/29/93 12:51p
Subj: NEC CDR-84 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
YD>The front door is spring loaded and you must hold it down to insert
>the CD in it. After pushing it just a bit, the CD is sucked into the
>drive by itself.
I thought by the way it looked it was spring loaded. I had hoped that
once open it would stay open by itself. I'm not so sure I could handle
it. I really have to try to get a look at one. Don't know if I can.
* SLMR 2.1a *
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 1989
To: PADDY DRURY Date: 08/22/93 10:52p
Subj: Cover CD 'PC MAG' Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PD> GC> The UK August edition of PC MAGAZINE, carries a CD on the cover. It
PD> GC> claims to contain a large number of the excellent utilities
PD> GC> commissioned by the magazine, amongst other things.
Odd.... I bought a copy of the issue in question in Greece, and mine
came with (one, two?) floppy diskette (although the cover said there was
supposed to be a CD-ROM). Did I get cheated?
* SLMR 2.1 *
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 1990
To: LOUIS GHINIS Date: 08/23/93 9:41a
Subj: Cd-Rom Help Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LG>-> I really need some advice and help concerning CD-ROM. Right now I
LG>-> have a 386/DX40 with 4 megs RAM, a 330 meg HD, and a SB Pro. I'm
LG>-> trying to decide if I should upgrade to a 486 (33 or 66), or get into
LG>-> CD-ROM. People (who don't know alot) have told me that the SB will
LG>-> only work with the Creative Lab's drive (Panasonic), is this true?
LG>-> Basically, I'd like to know what some of you would do,
LG>-> upgrade the CPU,
His CPU is fine. Unless he has an urgent need for more power (for
example, if he's working with pig-slow software like Corel Draw
manipulating enormous images, or stuff like that, on a day-in-day-out
basis where time is money. So I also would say: Get the CD-ROM drive!
LG> Creative labs have already made a deal with panasonic they've already
LG>released (amazing drive amazing price!) the panasonic CR-562B check out
LG>the specs 320ms access time, 300kb/sec transfer speed, 64k cache (helps
LG>a lot!), powered tray with eject button, THE ONLY device that can be
LG>plugged onto the sound blaster pro or sound blaster 16,
Yes, and THERE, RIGHT THERE, is the big GOTCHA. I wouldn't even
consider buying that drive, no matter how attractive it is for any other
reason, if I am arbitrarily and forever chained to a SoundBlaster Pro or
16 sound card in order to be able to use the CD-ROM drive. Why? Well,
let's say that in 12 months somebody (Gravis, or somebody else)
introduces a hot new sound card that makes everything else obsolete
overnight. In your case, you're shafted, 'cuz you can't get rid of your
now-obsolete SoundBlaster card without losing your CD-ROM drive too.
It might be another thing if there were some super-significant synergy
to be gained by tieing them together like that, but as far as I can see
there isn't. It's merely a bundled interface, and that's all. If I was
that desperately in need of I/O slots in my machine, I'd probably go
looking elsewhere to gain one. Sorry, it just sounds like a bad bargain
to me.
LG>The mitsumis are around $190 american but their not as good they cannot
LG>plug into the sound blaster pro,
Right. Why does that make them "not as good"? Again, what reason is
there to have to chain your CD-ROM leg to your sound board?
LG>don't have a 64k cache, isn't FULLY
LG>photo cd compatible
Excuse me, but from everything I've read here, the Mitsumi handles Photo
CD just fine (as long as you avoid that mis-labelled batch).
LG>has 350ms access rate not 320ms
...way less than 10% difference. You would NEVER feel the difference
there.
I'm not saying that the Panasonic drive isn't a good value for what it
is, but the negative of having to chain yourself to a SoundBlaster brand
sound card in order to be able to hook it up is thoroughly repugnant, to
me at least.
* SLMR 2.1 *
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 1991
To: RICHARD NIXON Date: 08/23/93 9:44a
Subj: CD-ROM INTERFACES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RN>BF>Always IN-2000 - don't settle for lesser Adaptec stuff....
RN>Ouch! I had the IN-2000 and was not pleased with its performance and
RN>ability to handle more than just two HDs.
What are you referring to? The IN-2000 handles more than just two hard
drives just fine.
RN>I am running Adaptec 154x cards now and have not had any problems.
I've talked to LOTS of people running SCSI and I've never known anybody
who had less problems getting it going than people running the IN-2000.
The Adaptec is a nightmare by comparison.
* SLMR 2.1 *
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 1992
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 08/23/93 9:50a
Subj: CD-ROM INTERFACES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LR> The Always card is in no way superior to the Adaptec line. In the
LR>first place, the IN-2000 only comes as an ISA card, no MCA or EISA support.
Why would anybody care about MCA? That's dead. Even IBM has started
using ISA again. EISA is virtually dead, too. I'm not convinced that
there's much value in a company that encourages users to buy future
orphans.
LR>do believe it is an ISA busmaster, but on an ISA system, only one busmaster
LR>allowed, so one cannot utilize any other busmasters with an IN-2000. Also,
Big deal there too... what other busmasters would you NEED to use, other
than the disk controller board? What other ISA busmasters ARE there,
even?
LR>Also, Always has refused to produce OS/2 drivers for their card, while Adapt
Again, I'm not sure that's a bad thing. A company can waste a lot of
money chasing after all the latest fads, and it's the user that
ultimately foots that bill.
LR>is supported right out of the OS/2 box.
Then you ought to criticize OS/2 for not including support for the
IN-2000, since it is evidently IBM that ought to be providing the
support for the Always board, rather than the opposite.
LR>I am running an Adaptec 1742 EISA
LR>busmaster SCSI HA under OS/2 2.1, and it runs wild circles around the
LR>IN-200
And you are suggesting, maybe, that they cost the same? :-))
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 1993
To: STEVE PROCTOR Date: 08/23/93 9:54a
Subj: CDROM Drives Refer: NONE
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SP>I have been looking at my local computer papers and see the MITSUMI with
SP>controller going for around $185.00. Is this a SCSI CDROM Drive? I need
No, but it comes with its own interface card... you have nothing else to
buy.
SP>it to be SCSI as I will use it with my Adaptec 1542B or ProAudio Spectrum
SP>Sound Card SCSI controller.
Why do you feel obligated to use those?
The Mitsumi is a fine drive at a great price. You won't make a mistake
buying it.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 1994
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 08/23/93 10:03a
Subj: Magnto-optical disc Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LR> It isn't. The entire explanation was bogus. IF the LASER beam
LR>softened the plastic, you would wind up with a molten disk in a hurry, and i
LR>they could generate a "magnetic beam", then they would not need the LASER.
Well, on a WORM-type disc, the laser beam actually DOES deform a layer
of the plastic, and that's what causes the bit to be written.
LR> The LASER is used to arrange the magnetic domains, with one arrangem
LR>representing a 1 and the other a 0. To read the information, the LASER writ
LR>out a 1, and if that action causes a small induced current in a nearby read
LR>head, then the bit was a zero, otherwise it was a 1. If it was a zero, then
LR>the now false bit is immediately rewritten.
Not really.
What happens is that the laser beam heats up the spot that is going to
be written, enabling a much larger and less precise magnetic field to
determine the magnetization that holds as that spot (instantly) cools.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 1995
To: TIM SMITH Date: 08/24/93 9:02a
Subj: Mitsumi Refer: NONE
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TS> CB> Could you describe these bands in a bit more detail? Are they
TS> CB> made of lead, rubber? Are they designed for this use (are they
TS> CB> found with the CD stuff) or are they actually for some other
TS> CB> purpose?
TS>I don't know baout those bands yall are talking about, But You can goto
TS>a High Priced Audio store and get, Looks like a pad to set on the cd-disk.
TS>High priced meanning a store that carries like Dennon recivers.
Don't waste your money. Those "CD-ROM stabilizer" things and the
like are of _absolutely_ no value of all, other than to the snake-oil
people who make them and the same kind of people who sell them. They
capitalize on people's ignorance, and the desire for mystique. Anyone
who understands the slightest bit about how things like CD-ROM work can
understand that such "enhancement" products cannot POSSIBLY improve
their sound (or any other aspect).
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 1996
To: ALLEN DIETZ Date: 08/24/93 1:07p
Subj: MPC ATLAS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AD>For a world atlas, Global Explorer from DeLorme Mapping is the best.
AD>my opinion, Global Explorer is FAR superior to any other CD-ROM
AD>based world atlas currently on the market.
I second that opinion. The Software Toolworks US/World Atlas, for
example, is pathetic by comparison (although admittedly cheaper).
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 1997
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/24/93 1:10p
Subj: NEW MPC SPECS Refer: NONE
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RE>For info, the Multimedia council has released the MPC level 2 spec and
RE>I have listed it below :-
I urge EVERYONE to boycott this garbage. A standard isn't a standard if
the people making the hardware and software can continue to "raise the
bar" by increasing the hardware required every six to twelve months.
Why go to the trouble of meeting a standard, if six months later you
find that you're still screwed? :-((
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From: YVES CHARIER Number: 1998
To: LUCIANO MUNHOZ Date: 08/25/93 1:08a
Subj: Mitsumi Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LM> Could anybody, please, give me some techinical specifications about
LM> Mitsumi CD-ROM drives?
SPECIFICATIONS
Data Capacity, 12 cm disc Mode 1 540 MBytes, Typical
Mode 2 630 MBytes, Typical
Data Capacity, 8 cm disc Mode 1 180 MBytes, Typical
Mode 2 210 MBytes, Typical
(Meets or exceeds High Sierra and ISO 9660 specifications)
Seek Time, 12 cm disc 1/3 stroke 350 msec Ave.
Full stroke 650 msec Ave.
Seek Time, 8 cm disc 1/3 stroke 250 msec Ave.
Full stroke 400 msec Ave.
Data Transfer Rate Mode 1 150 KBytes/sec sustained
Mode 2 175 KBytes/sec sustained
Data Spin-up Time 1.0 sec
Error Rate Mode 1 Less Than 10**-12
Mode 2 Less Than 10**-9
Channels 2
Output Voltage:
RCA Jacks 0.7 Vrms (10K Ohm load) (Max. Volume)
Headphones Jacks 0.6 Vrms (32 Ohm load) (Max. Volume)
Frequency Response (20Hz to 20KHz) 0**0.5/**-3 db
Total Harmonic Distorsion 0.04% at 1kHz
Size (WxHxL) 5.75 x 1.62 x 8.0 inches (including front panel)
Weight 1.6 Lbs
Disc Loading Side Mounted/Top Loading
Voltage/Current +5VDC +/-5%, 0.4 Amps average
+12VDC +/-5%, 0.2 Amps average
Operating Temperature Range 32°F-104°F
Non-Operating Temperature Range 22°F-151°F
Operating Humidity Range 20 to 85% Non-Condensing
Non-Operating Humidity Range 10 to 95% Non-Condensing
MTBF 25,000 POH
"Specifications subject to change without notice."
(Installation Manual Ver. 1.0, p. 42)
LM> Regards,
LM> Luciano Munhoz
You're welcome! Hope this helps...
- Yves
(from Paris XIIth, France)
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From: NICK FUNK Number: 1999
To: PAUL SWIDER Date: 08/29/93 4:31a
Subj: Panasonic 562 & Pro Stud Refer: NONE
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In a msg on <Aug 27 20:18>, Paul Swider of 1:209/710 writes:
PS>
PS> I just installed a CR-562b in my daughter's computer and it works
PS> quite well. The place I purchased it from, MPS Multimedia,
PS> Inc., sells the 562 for $249 and an interface card for $20.
PS> She had a SB16 sound card in her computer so I just bought
PS> the driver/cable kit for $20.
PS>
PS> If you are interested, check out, if you can, their ad in Sept's
PS> Computer Shopper page 569. Oh, by the way, the driver they
PS> supplied caused some "hiccups" on some audio stuff. I got
PS> the most recent one from Creative Labs BBS and everything
PS> works real nice now. >Paul<
Paul I ordered the Panasonic CR-562 with the $20 dollar interface and the new
Proaudio Studio 16 from MPS Multimedia the other day. The driver you mentioned
above, what is it used for (CDROM or Sound card). By the way, which sound
card are you using.
How do you like the drive??
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From: ED VISCUSI Number: 2000
To: DOUG SNELL Date: 08/28/93 8:19p
Subj: Birthday check failure message! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I wish to gain a higher user status, thank you
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 2001
To: RAY DYER Date: 08/28/93 11:20p
Subj: Re: BBS Shareware CD Refer: NONE
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-> It may be some software interrupt problem on my system. I jus
-> it out recently with all CD's affected. The CD can be read but it is
-> slow.
->
-> Running on 386-SX-33, 16 bit card.
->
-> Native audio CD's run without problems as the drive takes control.
I have 386 SX/25 16bit board.... Must be interrupt. I have IRQ 10 DRQ 5
TTYL,
Henry
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 2002
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 08/28/93 6:42a
Subj: Police Quest 4 (CD-ROM) Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Well Josh, I got the latest InterAction Magazine and it said nothing
-> depth about what might be on the CD-ROM version of that game, in an
-> consercing Police Quest 4, they explained what it was going to be abo
-> then at the end of the article in the last paragraph it said that the
-> also be a CD-ROM version of that game, but they didn't tell in what w
-> CD-ROM version is better than the regular version, I will keep you po
-> any new things on it. C-ya and write back.
Hi Ashwin!
ANY Sierra CD has ALL the charcters done in VOICE. Like KQ6 CD has a
'song' at the beginning cartoon. With professional actors in it too.
I'm not sure about PQ4 CD other than the first three were great, and
this one has nothing to do with them.
l8r,
Henry
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 2003
To: LOUIS GHINIS Date: 08/28/93 6:57a
Subj: Police Quest 4 (CD-ROM) Refer: NONE
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-> What I like about sierra and dislike about sierra also. For the
-> likeables sierra does in fact lower their prices by 50% after
-> 6months-year when their sales have dropped so that others can get a
-> chance to buy it at a low affordable cost just like space quest iv,wi
-> beamish for around $13 u.s through a mail order company i've seen tho
-> games were when new around $49 u.s. 3 times the price. What I don't
-> like about sierra is they charge the cd version the exact same price
-> the disk version when their making more profit on the cd version inst
-> of the disk version if you calculate a typical sierra game on disk ta
-> 10 disks thats 30cents each thats $3 american now a cd version would
-> cost less than $1 now that extra $2 savings if they were to take that
-> off it would $2 doubled at the distributor level and then doubled aga
-> at the retail level would be almost $10 u.s. so that extra $10 they a
-> making more profit off the cd version but the good thing though atlea
-> they have the leeway to lower their prices on the cd rom versions but
-> less leeway on the diskette versions.
Why are you upset about a couple bucks? It takes about 1mil dollars to
create a game today, and about 2yrs. worth of labor!
The prices are VERY good!
As for the others, they are STILL $40-$50 mailorder! Only on this
board-echo have I seen any for under $20!
Sierra wants $25 plus shipping to upgrade if you have original disk #1
or page of manual.
Now, 7th Guest for instanc.... Cheapest I've seen is $60! Why don't you
complain about Virgin's prices for a whil huh?
l8r,
Henry
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 2004
To: RACHEL REPSTAD Date: 08/28/93 7:03a
Subj: games Refer: NONE
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Hi Rachel!
-> I also have Laura Bow II and that was a good game. I have The Colonel
-> Bequest too. Have you played that? That is a pretty challenging game.
-> King's Quest V but I haven't beaten it. I've had it for about 2 years
-> just doesn't make me want to play. I really liked King's Quest VI. I'
-> Space Quest 2 a couple of times and I really don't think there is a g
-> is too hard... just really challenging. The more challenging it is th
-> determined I am to beat it. But if you are having lots of trouble, GE
-> CHEAT SHEET! I'm sure if you look around hard enough you will find on
-> could just call the Sierra board and edit that and just print it out.
-> where most of today's cheat sheets come from today. Anyway, I have Ac
-> Pacific and I want Red Baron. Dan Hatterick, y'know the Sysop of this
-> really in flying simulations. I really want Space quest 5. I've beate
-> the others and I would like to continue to do that. I just LOVE a go
I want the CD version of laura Bow II too! :) I haven't played the
Colonel's bequest, no longer available. I've beat KQ5 many times! If you
need a hint just ask!
I want to get 6 too! I haven't beat SQ2 yet, maybe I should play it more
often :)
I got Space Quest 5 for my birthday, what a cool game!!! I want to get
the CD version next. I have the entire SQ collection including enhanced
1. Out of 2 and 3 3 is my favorite. I like the whole series more than
any other so I really don't have any favorites...
I have a couple of their sims too! they do a great job on them!
TTUL,
Henry
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From: BOB SHUSTER Number: 2005
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/24/93 9:30a
Subj: Mac cd-roms Refer: NONE
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Hey Boris - how about a listing of your Macintosh titles? They dn't
have to be Mac specific, they can be dual format. - Bob Shuster
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From: ROBERT MOORE Number: 2006
To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 08/24/93 11:56p
Subj: $99 cd rom drives Refer: NONE
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Just thought I would drop you a quick note. I sent the CD ROM drive to you by
insured regular mail as you suggested. Let me know when you get it. You can
leave me a message here, call me or leave me a message on the Internet
(Robert.Moore@select.wyvern.com) if you have access to the Internet. Thanks
for your help.
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From: ELVIN EMERY Number: 2007
To: NIGEL ZETT Date: 08/23/93 12:31p
Subj: Panasonic CR562 Refer: NONE
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-=>On 18 Aug 93 22:19:00, Nigel Zett said the following to Laurens Linssen<=-
NZ> Laurens, I cought you Email on our local echo and just wanted to tell
NZ> you that the Panasonic CR562 is the "double-speed" drive of choice at
NZ> preference. I currently sell them for US$267 installed, but they are
NZ> cheaper for do-it-yourself-ers.
When I got my computer in April it came with the SBPro only and no CD-ROM.
Does the SBPro come with a driver that will work with the CD562 or would I
need to download or request something from Creative ???
Also what is your price for a bare bones 562 without the card since I
have a SBPro I would not need it (right ??)..
Thanx
Elvin E. Emery
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From: TONY VALUIKAS Number: 2008
To: TERRY MARRS Date: 08/23/93 8:50p
Subj: Sony's support number Refer: NONE
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Hi Terry..
Yes Sony has a support BBS... Here's there voice number 1-800-326-9551
and I think the support BBS is 408-894-0555, but I'm not sure...
Tv
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From: GARY HOFFERMAN Number: 2009
To: ALL Date: 08/25/93 7:50a
Subj: Cdrom dealers wanted Refer: NONE
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Greetings to All,
We are looking for resellers and system builders who would be interested in
marketing and/or bundling commercial, shareware, and adult CDROM software. We
offer a wide range of titles at very competitive pricing.
If you would be interested, please contact me at CONSOLIDATED CDROM Tel:
215-276-3657 or Fax: 215-276-3854.
Thanks,
Gary
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From: HEATHER KRAUSE Number: 2010
To: ALL Date: 08/26/93 11:36a
Subj: Toshiba Q's Refer: NONE
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I'm considering purchase of a Toshiba 3401 (internal) CD ROM drive and
have some questions. Anyone with answers or comments, please jump in!
? What's a good adapter for use with this drive? What's the
difference between the 8-bit and 16-bit controllers?
? What additional cables, mounting kit, etc. will be required to
hook the drive up to the controller and to my SoundBlaster 16
(for audio)? I (will) have an available 5.25" slot in tower
case - Gateway 2000 486/33 system. Any known problems with the
Toshiba and this computer?
? What's a good price for the drive? For the controller?
? Any recommendations on a good dealer for purchase of same? Do
they possibly take used equipment in trade (otherwise, I gotta
sell a couple of items before I can get the drive)?
If you are a dealer, please leave price, etc. info if this is an
appropriate conference. Or you can call me at 913-888-5201 ext.257
(8a-4p central, or leave voice mail). I need a package with the items
listed above and a couple of disk caddies. No software required (I
already have a CD ROM drive I'll be selling if I decide to get the
new one). Thanks for the info!
-hk
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From: SETH KLINE Number: 2011
To: STEVE PROCTOR Date: 08/26/93 10:59a
Subj: Re: CDROM Drives Refer: NONE
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I might want one of those CD-ROM drives. How much would they be?
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From: EDWARD FOSTER Number: 2012
To: ELDON WAKEFIELD Date: 08/26/93 5:48a
Subj: CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
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Hello Eldon,
Tuesday August 24 1993 19:53, Eldon Wakefield wrote to All:
EW> Have a question for anyone I have 4 Sony 535 cd-drives on my BBS this past
EW> week end some wierd stuff stated to happen can put a cd in one of the
EW> drives the light comes on when it goes out it will eject the cd can take
EW> another on and it works the one that didnt work woul work in another drive
Sounds to me like you may need to clean the optics.I'm not sure of how you
clean the Sony drives, but when my system starts acting up as described here
I get in there with a cotton swab & Windex and clean the optics...I have
Hitachies..
Edward Foster, " The Oasis BBs "
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From: DAVID NGHIEM Number: 2013
To: ALL Date: 08/29/93 2:01a
Subj: pioneer 600] Refer: NONE
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I plan on buying a pioneer 600 changer for use for my BBS. But I am
wondering that if I had six cd's on the drive at once, would they show
up as 6 drives? Or do I have to alternate the cd's constantly? I hope
this is a software automated process. I would hate to buy six cd's, put
them on the system only to find out that I have to manually change a cd
when a user wants to look at another one. If anyone can help in using
the pioneer for the BBS, thanks!!!!
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From: DON SPROUL Number: 2014
To: ALL Date: 08/28/93 7:43p
Subj: Mitsumi and Gravis Ultrasound Refer: NONE
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Thanks to all who responded to my plea, but after finding that the Mitsumi uses
up to 80% of the CPU in conjunction with the usage from my Gravis software.
This was too much for my 386DX/33Mhz to handle and I have upgraded
to a Texel double spin drive anyway so all my problems are solved.
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From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 2015
To: LUIS CARVAJAL Date: 08/29/93 12:54p
Subj: Games Refer: NONE
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-> Hi there,
->
-> Has anyone seen 'The day of the tentacle' on CD?. How does it
-> differ from
-> the regular version?
-> I have heard that 'Dragon's Lair' is about to be released for
-> CD-ROM. Has
-> anyone seen it yet? Do you know if it is going to be more of the same
-> crap or it is going to be, finally, something close to the real
-> thing, the coin-op machine??
You know with 680 megs of information its going to be the full version
but don't know if they are going to take all the photo's from the coin
up version i noticed the disk versions of dragon slayer are redone.
Louis
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From: MATT METZINGER Number: 2016
To: CARLOS BENITZ Date: 08/29/93 3:43a
Subj: Maximus & Downloading Refer: NONE
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Hello Carlos!
Tuesday August 24 1993 02:37, Carlos Benitz wrote to All:
CB> I'm having a bit of trouble when downloading a file from the disc at
CB> 1200bps (that's what's in the notebook, I haven't watched other users yet
CB> so I don't know about faster speeds).
CB> Every 16K, *exactly*, Maximus reports "Unable to read drive F" (the rom).
CB> When I'm running FrontDoor/Maximus alone, the file transmission stops at
CB> 16384 bytes, *WITHOUT ERROR* (although obviously the entire file isn't
CB> there). Attempting to resume under Zmodem results in a new copy which
CB> terminates at the same place.
Carlos, I think this is a Maximus problem, but I don't have a CD-ROM so I
don't have a fix handy. Ask in the Fido Maximus echo, MUFFIN.
Matt
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2017
To: GORDON FLETCHER Date: 08/29/93 12:04a
Subj: BIBLES & RELIGION Refer: NONE
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GF>MS>Sorry Keith, our special purchase stock is gone on those, but they are
GF>MS>in stock again at the regular price of $13.00.
GF>Mike, Do you also have "Shakespeare" at a good price. If so, will order
GF>both.
Gordon,
Got 'em in stock at $16.50. Just say the word. 8)
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2018
To: GREG MCDONELL Date: 08/29/93 12:04a
Subj: CD LIQUIDATION! Refer: NONE
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GM> MS> STARVECTOR CD-ROM LIQUIDATION SPECIALS!
GM> MS> Shareware...$22 Clipart Heaven...$19 5Star Prem. Windows.$27
GM> MS> Otherware I...$17 Jedi Collection..$39 History of Jazz.$45
GM> MS> Hacker Chronicles...$24 Reel Clips..$35 Kodak Photo CD.$18
GM> MS> STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892
GM>Mike, I was wondering about this Kodak Photo CD ... is it editing
GM>tools, a database utility or what?? I may need it if Digital Cameras
GM>ever reduce in price down to my price range 8-)
It is software to enable you to view, edit, and otherwise have fun with
photographic images on the new Kodak Photo CD's. BTW, you don't need a
digital camera to enjoy Photo CD technology, just a plain ol' 35mm and
a Photo CD unit or compatible CD-ROM drive! The way it works is that you
take your film into your favorite authorized Kodalux film processor, and
about a week or so later, you get a CD back with all your pictures on
it. I've seen them in action, and with a good monitor, the quality is
really amazing.
GM>Also, in my recent order to you ( and thanks for prompt service on
GM>the last couple of orders, BTW ) I included a request for Return
GM>to Zork, which is supposed to be out soon. You may care to let myself
GM>and others know via this echo when this title, and also the new Tex
GM>Murphy and Labyrinth CDs, become available. I'm sure there are a lot
Yes, thanks very much for the order. We should have them all in stock
very soon, and they will be included in our CD master lists when they
arrive.
Hope this helps,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2019
To: ROB MCINTYRE Date: 08/29/93 12:04a
Subj: CD LIQUIDATION! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RM>Oh... Pity.
Huh?
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2020
To: ALL Date: 08/29/93 12:04a
Subj: KING'S QUEST VI IN STOCK! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BRAND NEW CD ARRIVALS AT STARVECTOR!
King's Quest VI.....$47 Shareware Explorer..$59 Phonedisc USA.......$69
Soundware Coll'ctn..$27 So Much Shareware 3.$28 Gameware Collection.$24
Aminet Amiga 1993...$15 5 Star Windows......$27 Electronic Cookbook.$33
Programmers Megapak.$29 Canadian Shareware..$19 Precision Mapping...$79
Shareware Online 2.soon Microsoft Golf......$58 Mac Shareware.......$22
M/M Computer Tutor..$30 Int'l Graphics Libr.$33 Color Magic Clipart.$28
The Holy Bible......$24 Am. Bus Phonebk 93..$35 Reel Clips..........$35
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: RANDY MCANALLY Number: 2021
To: CHRIS ROBINSON Date: 08/28/93 12:16p
Subj: 16 bit sound card - HELP! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Get a Sound Galaxy NX Pro. I just purchased one for $180 and it features
16 bit audio, audio input, FM synthesis, SCSI interface (which I use
with a double spin drive, works great!), compatability with
soundblaster pro, adlib, pas, speech thing, and disney sound source.
Comes in the box with speakers, programs/games, and a huge book. Works
great with MIDI also. My friend has a game that crashes with his SB16,
and works on my SG!
Randy
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From: RANDY MCANALLY Number: 2022
To: ALL Date: 08/28/93 1:02p
Subj: S3 video chip Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have a Cirrus logic 1MB vesa local bus video card on my 486DX/33. Does
this video card have a S3 chip in it? The docs claim windows
acceleration. I ran a vga video test and the docs said a 10-12 frame per
second video redraw in dos is average. It measured 88.1 frames per
second om mine!!! I can't see how there could be a problem with
slowness. I really want 7th guest and don't want stupid incompatability.
Randy
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From: GORDON FLETCHER Number: 2023
To: 12500 Date: 08/29/93 2:21p
Subj: BIBLES & RELIGION Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NOTE: This message was originally addressed to MIKE SHANNON
and was forwarded to you by JAMES BRYANT
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MS>Sorry Keith, our special purchase stock is gone on those, but they are
MS>in stock again at the regular price of $13.00.
Mike, Do you also have "Shakespeare" at a good price. If so, will order
both.
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From: JAMES BRYANT Number: 2024
To: ALL Date: 08/29/93 2:42p
Subj: 7th Guest Refer: NONE
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I've just finished 7th Guest and it was great. The graphics
were truely amazing, the sound was pretty good too.
I'm selling it for $35
call James at 1-619-538-0973
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From: MIKE MITCHELL Number: 2025
To: BRIAN HIPPS Date: 08/26/93 2:08p
Subj: Files.bbs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I heard Brian Hipps talking about "Files.bbs"
to All on 08-22-93 04:59:
BH> I'm trying to setup my BBS using Night Owl-9, but the files.bbs on
BH> the disc is incompatible with the software I'm running. The author of
I just installed PonyROM Door on my BBS, and all is working excellent!
I suggest you try it to atleast get the CD-ROM up and online for users
to access. OOC: What BBS software are you using? If you're using PC-
Board, there is a program written specifically for PCBoard for the
Night Owl CD-ROM (any version). And another OOC: How much did you pay
for your NIGHT_OWL_V9? I paid $25 at a HamShow for mine...
Version: 2.3
iQBVAgUBLHq4EZNmzejRqL0TAQGWPwH7BeoeM5VdY3hQaD1BHleiAFR0s8BPDPmM
1JnTOy+xr5gjxiiKlSqDuRU7u1rh8T1yakYI8dqBIR7nLUpgkd2Vbw==
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From: JANUSZ SUROWKA Number: 2026
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 08/28/93 9:20p
Subj: CD SPEEDWAY Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
ok
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From: JANUSZ SUROWKA Number: 2027
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 08/28/93 9:35p
Subj: Re: Cd-rom help! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Sorry to say, but there are 12000 BPS modems, L8tr Dude.
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From: JANUSZ SUROWKA Number: 2028
To: YVES DESJARDINS Date: 08/28/93 9:42p
Subj: Benchmark test for CDROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
If you find one, tell me.
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From: JANUSZ SUROWKA Number: 2029
To: ERIC HSIAO Date: 08/28/93 9:42p
Subj: 16 bit cards Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
So is the Sb16ASP
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From: DAN POLIVY Number: 2030
To: JAMES MUNRO Date: 08/29/93 11:01a
Subj: Sony driver for os2 Refer: NONE
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James,
-> Does any one know where I could get a driver for my SONY CDU535
-> series. To enable me to run it with OS2 ver. 2.1.
-> Ihave to reboot dos all the time right now to run my CD.
-> thanks anyone who can help
I have the same CdROM, and am about to switch to OS/2. If you locate this
Driver (which I am pretty sure is around somewhere) can you let me know? It
would help a lot.
Dan
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From: RANDY WHITE Number: 2031
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/29/93 8:45a
Subj: Re: BRAND NEW CD'S! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
King's Quest VI better than The 7th Guest? Obviously you've never played
either one. I've played both and The 7th Guest is on another level. King's
Quest VI is O.K. but nothing compared to The 7th Guest.
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From: JON SHEARIN Number: 2032
To: ERIC ESKAM Date: 08/28/93 3:27p
Subj: HELP WITH MSCDEX Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Anyone have a text file laying around that explains the switches for
> MSCDEX?
Eric,
If you are using MS-DOS 6.0, you can look up the switches with the
command HELP MSCDEX. If you are not using MS-DOS 6 (or don't have any access to
it), let me know and I'll post a list of them.
Hope this helps.
Later,
JS.
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From: JON SHEARIN Number: 2033
To: MARCUS LEE Date: 08/28/93 3:51p
Subj: 7TH GUEST W/ 100% VIDEO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> I was thinking of purchasing an ATI Graphics Ultra Pro 2mb/EISA...
> and I noticed you said you had probs playing 7th Guest and only 86%
> optimal on the video.
.
.
.
> Oh, and do you know ANY video cards that get 100%?
Marcus,
I am currently running a 486DX/33MHz VLB machine with a Cirrus Logic
VLB Video Card (uses the CL-GD5426 chip). This combination gives 100% on 7th
Guest.
BTW, the 86% with the ATI sounds awfull. I got 74% using a Trident
8900CL ISA card on a 486SX/25.
Later,
JS.
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From: ED YEE Number: 2034
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/29/93 11:50a
Subj: CD sound Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thanks for all the information on CD-ROM connection plugs. I just used the
one on my PAS+ and I get nice sound from the CD-ROM and from other sources from
the same set of speakers. THANKS.
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From: WILLIAM CHILDRESS Number: 2035
To: LOUIS GHINIS Date: 08/29/93 11:10p
Subj: Sound blaster 16 vs 16asp Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LG> You mean there is a daughterboard for the sb16/asp? That is fantastic
>don't know if i ever will need it though but if i were a musician/artist
>it would be a fantastic deal rather than buying those stand alone midi
>keyboards having to buy cartridges and record sound fx's through the mic
>of the midi instead through the computer and be able to edit things.
Media Vision (Aug 5), a leading supplier of multimedia for personal
computers, introduced its first add-in sound board with sampled-sound music
synthesis. This extends Media Vision's Pro Audio 16 sound card family by
offering professional-quality sound and advanced software. Dubbed the Pro
AudioStudio 16XL, it's the result of a joint development and marketing effort
with Korg U.S.A. Inc. The companies have been working side by side to
incorporate Korg's wavetable synthesis with the 16-bit sound technology
developed by Media Vision.
The Pro AudioStudio 16XL add-in board will deliver professional-quality
music recording and playback to desktop personal computers. Based on the same
chipset used in Korg's other professional electronic music synthesizers, the
32-voice wavetable synthesizer uses digitized recordings of real instruments to
generate music. It is capable of producing the sounds of 128 different musical
instruments, and its special effects include studio-quality digital reverb and
chorus which add ambiance and depth to musical compositions. In addition to the
Korg synthesizer, the Pro AudioStudio 16XL will feature an on-board
FM-synthesizer, a software controllable mixer, a game port and an
industry-standard SCSI CD-ROM controller interface. And, a built-in MIDI
interface allows control of other MIDI devices. The sound card is capable of
recording and playback of 16-bit stereo digital audio with sample rates of
48kHz (beyond CD-quality sound). Not only that, but an on-board audio mixer
allows simultaneous recording of multiple audio sources. Also, there is a
4-to-1 audio compression/decompression feature. Of course, it comes bundled
with a variety of software applications that take advantage of the card's
advanced features.
P.S. Perhaps you might consider waiting until this one is released in the next
month of so.
<Alan>
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From: WILLIAM HERBERT Number: 2036
To: ALL Date: 08/29/93 5:25p
Subj: WANTED Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Wanted: Used Pioneer DRM 600a will pay up to 600$$ please respond. Or you can
reach me on my bbs aT 609 487 8321
-)verbyte
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From: HERMAN WIGGINS Number: 2037
To: ALL Date: 08/30/93 4:04a
Subj: Cd-Roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello All!
I have So Much Shareware BBS ready for sale 3 disk set, price $40.00 if
you are interested in these disk reply here..Also have some other titles
which I will announce later...
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From: MARK WIMMER Number: 2038
To: DOUG SCHWANTES Date: 08/28/93 11:37p
Subj: CD ROM disk cache Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DS> Does anyone out there know of a good disk cache for a CD-ROM?
DS>
DS>
DS> ... Catch the Blue Wave!
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DS>
Lightning is supposed to be good. It also speeds up other
drives, as well as comes with some other utilities.
MARK
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From: DON BOSMAN Number: 2039
To: DERIK MINNICH Date: 08/28/93 4:13p
Subj: CD-ROM's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DM>ONLY catch is, you must buy C.O.D. which runs like $29. I
I have to question the $29. for COD.
UPS would be about $10 max for shipping, insurance, and COD tag.
Do you have any idea why the company you mentioned would want $19 more
for doing business the easy way?
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From: JAMES MUNRO Number: 2040
To: DAVE TERRELL Date: 08/28/93 8:08p
Subj: Sony driver for OS2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thanks for you reply
I havnt tried that North Carolina number yet that you gave me for a
CD-ROM driver mine is a SONY CDU535 your cd is a different number. Would it
still work with my CD??
Where about is your BBS is it any closer to Niagara Falls than North
Carolina??
thanks for you reply
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From: HOA HO Number: 2041
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 08/28/93 7:15p
Subj: Re: Norton Speedcache Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> This is just another silly reply to Ashwin Bihari <=-
AB> Hey everyone, please tell me what this Norton SpeedCache is, is this
AB> a cache for the CD-ROM if so, does it come with Norton Utilities, or is
AB> it a totaly different product and how much does it cost and does it
AB> work, you see I have a 350 ms 150 kb/sec Mitsumi drive and though I am
AB> perfectly satisfied by it sofar, I would like to speed it up, so
AB> please tell me what this SpeedCache is about, thanx and C-ya
AB> Ashwin
Norton Speedcache+ is sold separately by Symantec. It is similar to NCACHE2
found in Norton Utilities except that it can cache practically anything that
can have a drive designation. It does speed up accessing files on my Mitsumi
and Chinon 435 but not that much. Both of my drives are 150kps, 350ms or so.
I think it would be more beneficiary for people with CD-ROMs rated above
400ms. Also I found that it isn't that stable unless you assign a huge amount
of stacks to it.
... The OFFICIAL tagline of the 1996 Olympics!
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 2042
To: ANDRE QUEREE Date: 08/26/93 9:15a
Subj: 16 bit cards Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AQ> -=> Quoting Yves Desjardins to Chris Robinson <=-
AQ>
AQ> YD> anyone who wants to buy a 16 bits sound card. It is fully compa
AQ> YD> with the sound blaster, the sound quality blows you away and it
AQ>
AQ>But remember it's only compatible with the original Sound Blaster, no
AQ>SB Pro or SB16 - that's another limiting factor for this sound card!
Also it is only an FM card, and all FM cards sound the same... Bad.
I don't see how people can say the sound quality of an SB/PAS/Adlib Gold
etc, can blow them away. They all use the same OPL3 4 op fm chip.
Now if that dude heard a wavetable card...THEN he would be blown away.
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 2043
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 08/26/93 9:21a
Subj: Police Quest 4 (CD-ROM) Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
HP>I also want to get the CD version of the Wing Commander series.
It is the same as the Disk version.
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From: TONY STOTT Number: 2044
To: DERIK MINNICH Date: 08/29/93 7:32a
Subj: Sanyo Cd-rom Drive. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 08-25-93, in a colourful display of the English language, Derik Minnich
said to All:-
DM>Hi everone!
DM>
DM>I am searching for someone who has been around CD-ROM's for a LONG
DM>time.
Try Bob Hall! Rumour has it that he has been in the cdrom game so long
that he used cdrom disks on the wheels of the cart he used to move mammoth
steaks back to the cave! <bg>
Seriously, as the founder and moderator of this echo for 10 years or more,
Bob will most likely have oyur answer.
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From: POE LIM Number: 2045
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/29/93 9:34p
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Rowan,
On Aug 23 20:44 in a msg to Poe Lim, Rowan Evans of 3:711/413 wrote:
> caddies than it is for the average user.... Most users I know of
> with caddy type drives can only afford one caddy... and they are
> amazed and impressed by the Panasonic....
The cheapest caddies I've bought (and this is cheaper than what a dealer I know
can get them for) was via this echo, from a local contact (take a bow, Tony S.
:).
It can be a hassle when you have to handle multiple CD to take them out of
their cases; easier just to keep them in caddies, and slip them in as required.
As to the cost, I calculate it as a percentage of the cost of the ROMs; most of
the time they come to less than 10% of the cost, which is acceptable for the
protection thus gained.
Cheers,
Poe
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From: SIMON MACKAY Number: 2046
To: JOSH PICHE Date: 08/28/93 11:15p
Subj: Police Quest 4 (CD-ROM) Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JP>I've heard that the CD rom version will be out around the same time as
JP>version. Will the CD version include extra stuff, or is it just on CD
JP>
JP> Josh Piche
JP>
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JP>
Do you know anything about Police Quest 4. From this echo, I gather it is
on floppy disk and / or CD-ROM in the US by now. Do you know if it is
released, its storyline and the quality of the images?
Thanks Simon :-)
Melbourne Australia.
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 2047
To: STEPHEN KOVACSISS Date: 08/29/93 10:09a
Subj: EXPLAIN SOUND CARDS TO ME Refer: NONE
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SK > AS}Who told you that? The GUS does "true" 16 bit playback,
SK > at sample rates up
SK > }to 60 kHz.
SK > It has 16-bit playback with up to 44.1 kHz sample rates.
SK > Stephen
The GUS is actually capable of Higher sample rates than the Spec states. (Can
be tweaked into sampling at 60 kHz.)
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From: STEVE PESANT Number: 2048
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 08/29/93 9:50p
Subj: Re: CD-Rom Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Jim Lambert to All <=-
JL> I have just finished making our new CD-Rom catalog. We have many new
JL> products and have reduced the price on a lot of the others. If you
JL> would like a copy of this catalog, please log on and download
JL> catalog.zip. It lists all of our titles with prices and descriptions.
Hi there Jim; how are you?
I was wonderin' if you could FREQ me a copy of your new catalog...I can be
reached through FidoNet at 1:153/217. Thanks a lot in advance.
-=Cheers=-
Steve.
... Don't hit me, Mr. Moderator... I'll go back on topic... I swear!
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From: FABRICE GROVER Number: 2049
To: ALL Date: 08/29/93 7:38p
Subj: GOOD CD-ROM??? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey out there. I'm looking for a cd-rom for my future 486DX2-66 Mhz. I have no
idea what kind to get, what the different names are, what's expensive etc... If
anyone has any opinions on which cd-rom is a good buy with a nice
price/performance ratio, I'd love to here from you.
ttyl,
ƒabrice G.
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From: TONY VALUIKAS Number: 2050
To: VICKI CRAWFORD Date: 08/29/93 2:42p
Subj: MultiLine/CDROM/DV/HELP!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> TV> Can anyone help me on this?
-> TV> I keep getting CRC errors on all files download from the CDROM.
-> TV> With one Node up everything works but with more than one Node
-> TV> I get errors.
->
-> The problem is either the access speed of the CD rom or your comms po
I found out later that I needed to setup my CD for polling instead of
high speed software transfers....
Thanks for the post...
Tv
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From: SHAUN RADER Number: 2051
To: LUIS CARVAJAL Date: 08/29/93 6:30p
Subj: Games Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
<<***** LUIS CARVAJAL wrote this on 08-22─93 {May be edited} *****>>
─> Has anyone seen 'The day of the tentacle' on CD?. How does it diff
─>from the regular version?
Yes, I have the DOTT CD-ROM game. It has full talking through the whole
game. No need to read the characters lines (you can if you still want
to). It's great! I love those adventure games with talking (I also
have the Space Quest IV CD which has full talking too). That's
basically the only difference. The CD version also comes with a free
hint book, and a different shaped box (triangle).
-Shaun Rader-
-Madman@Liberty.Com-
08/29/93 17:53
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From: RICK COOKE Number: 2052
To: DON RIEB Date: 08/30/93 6:57a
Subj: Virtual Sex Disk Refer: NONE
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Don Rieb Mumbled Something to Rick Cooke about Re: Virtual Sex Disk
DR> I saw that one too, it was called Virtual Vallery and you had to go
DR> out and find here then pick her up and bring her back to her place for
DR> a romp. It had real good digitized speach where she would tant you to
DR> do things to here. I am wandering the same thing though, how to get
DR> ahold of the author or publisher on that one.
Apparently it was developed on the MAC. Too bad! Maybe there will be
a DOS version in the near future. It looked like a fun program to
'Play' around with.
Rick
... "Yield to temptation, it may not pass your way again." - L. Long
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 2053
To: DON BOSMAN Date: 08/29/93 9:47p
Subj: Re: Cdrom Systems Refer: NONE
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BO>Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $799.00 Pioneer DMR604X Bare -$1199.
BO>Boris Osadciw
DB> I always figure a newcomer should keep his mouth shut for a while before
DB> posting. So after reading several hundred posts, I have a few questions.
DB> What can you tell me, and others newbies, about the Pioneer bare drives
DB> listed above?
In a word, "Excellent."
DB> Specifically, access time, seek time, transfer rates, can
The 600, I am not sure, but I believe it is double speed (300KB/s), and
800ms or so access. 'Not great, but OK for a data drive. The 604X has a
612KB/s transfer and 300ms access. It far exceeds MPC-2, and works great under
OS/2 with all functions intact. I have no problems at all with this drive and
an Adaptec 1742 EISA HA.
DB> they fit in a 5.25 in slot
You're kidding, right? No, they don't fit in a 5.25" FH drive bay.
Heck, the CARTRIDGES hardly fit in a 5.25" slot, let alone the drive, which
must pull out each CD for access. They are external only, a little taller than
a full height bay, half again as wide, and about 12" deep. Since the cartridge
must have clearance for the CD to be extracted, and the maximum clearance width
is about an inch wider than a 5-1/4" bay, I don't think an internal unit is
possible.
DB> what kind of interface card is required,
SCSI, preferably SCSI-2 for the 604X, if you want MPC-2 and all the
other goodies.
DB> etc. How might the above compare to a couple or six Panasonic 562's on
DB> a file server?
Well, the six drives will definitely out-perform a single carousel
drive, of course, when it comes to simultaneous accesses of several disks.
However, single disk access under the Pioneer 604X blows away the access on any
of the Panasonics, and one 604X is obviously a lot cheaper than six 562's.
Additionally, the Pioneers only use one SCSI ID, thus allowing six other drives
on a single HA, while the 562's will almost completely use up your HA, allowing
at most a single hard drive, tape drive, or other SCSI device. It is at least
theoretically possible to access a motion picture vide, and audio track, and a
couple of data downloads to users with six individual drives. This would not
be possible with the 604X, although multiple user downloads are.
Les
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 2054
To: LISA HUTTER Date: 08/29/93 10:08p
Subj: Re: My New cd-rom! help Refer: NONE
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LH> Hi All,
LH> I've just recently installed a panisonic CD-Rom and I'm not sure how to
LH> get the most out of it...I thought that I'd be able to play musical CD's
LH> while working in Windows, etc...Of course this isn't the only reason I
LH> made this purchase but I'd thought it would be a fun feature.
LH> Can anyone give me some advice as to how to make the most of my new
LH> "toy"?
Dump Windows and get OS/2.
Les
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 2055
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 08/29/93 10:13p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM HELP! Refer: NONE
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BF> Load the MSCDEX buffers into ExTENded (XMS) memory - I
BF> think that's the "/E"
No, it is expanded (EMS or LIM) memory.
BF> To make it a short story, the "loadhi" address range is
BF> from the 640K DOS limit
BF> up to the 1 Meg 20-bit Real Mode address limit.
DOS does not have any 640K limit. The DOS limit and the Real mode
limit are one and the same. If your system does not have a video card, and
also no ROM BIOS other than the system BIOS, DOS will happily use over 900K of
RAM. I have regularly done this with a number of file servers.
Les
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 2056
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 08/29/93 10:20p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM INTERFACES Refer: NONE
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BF> > The Always card is in no way superior to the
BF> Adaptec line. In the
BF> >first place, the IN-2000 only comes as an ISA card, no
BF> MCA or EISA support.
BF> For those of us that don't have MCA or EISA (or local bus,
BF> for that matter),
BF> the IN-2000 is an excellent choice, and FAR superior overall to any of the
BF> Adaptec stuff (especially considering relative PRICING).
I've not noticed any price premium for Adaptec. I got my 1742 for just
a bit over $300. You suggest that the Always is superior overall. In what
way? Please be specific, including benchmarks and specs. I have an example,
however. My 1742 can support boot drives on SCSI ID 0-7, SIMULTANEOUSLY with
non-boot devices on 0, 1, and 2. The 1742 can support 10MB/s continuous
synchronous throughput, and supports SCSI disconnect on any number of devices.
It is also SCSI-2.
BF> I have USED both - and DUMPED all of my Adaptec stuff in
BF> favor of the IN-2000.
BF> >do believe it is an ISA busmaster
BF> The IN-2000 does NOT do bus mastering
I was apparently mistaken. My apologies.
BF> which stuff is
BF> overhyped on an ISA bus
BF> anyway due to BUS throughput limitations under DMA.
It is far from over-hyped. The bus throughput limitations are on
MOTHERBOARD DMA, not busmastering. Busmastered DMA can proceed at the limit of
the ISA bus' ability to function. More importantly, it proceeds without the
intervention of the CPU, which can be off doing more appropriate things.
Admittedly, under DOS this means generally waiting for the DMA transfer to
complete, but many of us know better than to stick with DOS.
BF> >using an ISA busmaster basically limits the useful system
BF> RAM to 16 Megabytes.
BF> This IS a problem with the Adaptec stuff, which ARE Bus Mastering cards.
True. If the IN-2000 is not a busmatering card, then it will not
suffer this limitation. Neither does the 1742, however. If one can afford
>16MB, they *SHOULD* be able to afford EISA, MCA, or VLB.
Les
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From: SAM JONES Number: 2057
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 08/30/93 11:40a
Subj: Police Quest 4 (CD-ROM) Refer: NONE
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HP> board-echo have I seen any for under $20!
HP> Sierra wants $25 plus shipping to upgrade if you have original disk #1
HP> or page of manual.
HP> Now, 7th Guest for instanc.... Cheapest I've seen is $60! Why don't you
The 7th Guest can be found at Sam's for $45 and Wal-Mart at $49.
Definately worth the $$$ as is the KQ6 upgrade at EB for $25! I find these
prices VERY fare, also if you know someone who has the floppy version of DOTT
for only $25.
Sam
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From: SAM JONES Number: 2058
To: RANDY MCANALLY Date: 08/30/93 11:46a
Subj: S3 video chip Refer: NONE
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RM> I have a Cirrus logic 1MB vesa local bus video card on my 486DX/33. Does
RM> this video card have a S3 chip in it? The docs claim windows
RM> acceleration. I ran a vga video test and the docs said a 10-12 frame per
RM> second video redraw in dos is average. It measured 88.1 frames per
I have a Diamond SSPro VL and it is also a Cirrus Logic (5426) based card.
It does not contain the S3 chip and the card gets a 100% rating on the
benchmark included with the 7th Guest. The game runs great!
Sam
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From: JIM KALLIO Number: 2059
To: ALL Date: 08/29/93 9:24p
Subj: NEC Multi-Spin Refer: NONE
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Hello yall,
I just got a NEC MultiSpin CD-ROM drive. And I don't think it's working
right... for instance, when I goto my CD-ROM designation (E:)
and I goto a subdirectory and do a DIR it goes back to the E: root directory.
Or when I goto a directory and type in the name of a EXE or COM or BAT file it
says file not found, and probably it
is trying to read the root directory of the E: drive... Well if this makes any
sense to ya and ya have any suggestions I would GREATLY appreciate a
response... C-ya later
Ætσmßσmß
SysOp Fallout Shelter BBS
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From: MANESH RAMA Number: 2060
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/29/93 11:00p
Subj: Re: encyclopedia's Refer: NONE
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hello
i thank you for replying to my note
but i wuz just wondering if you trade
oh and is that the cd ver.
cause if so i have night owls cd
cause i just got robbed the other day
on monday so at the moment i cant
afford it but i can trade
thanx
i hope we can
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From: ROY FUNG Number: 2061
To: RANDY MCANALLY Date: 08/30/93 5:47a
Subj: RE: SBPRO CD ROM DRIVES Refer: NONE
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> I think what would be a hell of a lot easier is to just get a
> Sound Galaxy NX Pro card which has SCSI interface and is
> compatible with all SCSI CD-ROM drives regardless of the
> speed. It's soundblaster, adlib, disney sound source, FM
> music, and speech thing compatible so you have much more
> compatability also. It runs about 170-180 dollars.
What are some of the places that sell the Sound Galaxy NX Pro for the
price you stated?
Roy Fung
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From: HERMAN WIGGINS Number: 2062
To: ALL Date: 08/30/93 9:47a
Subj: Cd roms Refer: NONE
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Hello All!
DO you have anymore of those drives for $99 if so email me here....
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From: DOUG DAGGER Number: 2063
To: DERIK MINNICH Date: 08/29/93 2:20p
Subj: CD-ROM's Refer: NONE
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DM> planning on getting a Pioneer 6 disk machine :) Anyway, here is the
DM> HOTTEST tip I can give you. You can get an Internal Toshiba 3401
DM> (THE fastest single drive out
DM> on the market right now) for $399 bare bones from CD-ROM Direct.
DM> Note this a bare bones drive, meaning you will have to get a SCSI
DM> controller if you don't have one, which they also sell. This is the
DM> lowest price I have found in the U.S., the ONLY catch is, you must
DM> buy C.O.D. which runs like $29. I have a number around somewhere,
Would a person who knows just about nothing about cd-rom's be able to install
this. I'll try to get the ad and see!
Thanks for your help!
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From: DOUG DAGGER Number: 2064
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 08/29/93 2:21p
Subj: CD-ROM's Refer: NONE
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how many bit is the matsumi?
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From: DANNY BANISTER Number: 2065
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/25/93 11:51p
Subj: New Additions Refer: NONE
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>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ N E W A D D I T I O N S ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>LAN MASTER - 100mgs - 2255 files - Utilities, Programs, Text, & More!
> Files.BBS Structure - PRICE - $29.
Boris, can you give some details about what's on this CD?
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From: DANNY BANISTER Number: 2066
To: JOHN ROBERTSON Date: 08/26/93 12:02a
Subj: Speedcache & Disc Caddi Refer: NONE
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>EH> noticed that various stores can rip you off with the
>EH> price of caddies. I went to a local computer show and
>EH> they had caddies for $4-4.50 each, but when I went
>didn't read the version # correctly. Also with respect to your comment
>on the prices of caddies you should be aware that there are copies of
>the licensed caddies out there... easily recognized by several facets 1)
>The clear lid should have no ripples on the surface, & 2) The printing
>on the back of the CD caddies should be crisp and sharp. I don't know
>where the copies are coming from but there are only two licensed plants
>in the world for making these, one is in Japan, and the other in the
>USA. The Japanese version uses a stainless steel shutter and the USA
>version is aluminum. The copies will jam in your cd player or they will
>cause your spin motor to suffer from excessive drag. The better cd
>players such as SONY or TOSHIBA will spit these out as they slow
>down the motor from being uneven and causing the coupler to drag,
That's odd. Both types I bought (USA-made and Japanese-made) have
stainless steel shutters.
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From: DAVID CHILDRESS Number: 2067
To: ALL Date: 08/29/93 8:29a
Subj: CD-Kit Refer: NONE
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Hi All!
I was wonderiing if anyone has had experiance with a CD-ROM bundle
called "Multimedia CD16"? It comes with an external CD player, a
NEC-25BJ (access time 650 ms, transfer rate 150Kb sec.), a 16 bit
sound board, two speakers, and 5 CD's. Cost around $400.00
What do you all think about the access time? I'm not too familiar
with CD drives, but I understand that this is quite slow. What effect
would that have on animation/video reproduction? This would be our
1st CD setup, does anyone have a better choice? Keeping in mind
a family budget? :-) $500.00 give or take, for the whole deal.
We would like to have some sort of a bundle deal and something that
will last a while. Any suggestions? (opening can of worms <g>)
Thanks in advance,
-=Dave=- (CD neophyte)
... OFFLINE 1.50 "... [tap..tap].. is this thing ON??"
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From: ROGER SMITH Number: 2068
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/30/93 6:38a
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
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RE> You're a dealer aren't you Poe?? Its probably cheaper for you to get
RE> caddies than it is for the average user.... Most users I know of with
RE> caddy type drives can only afford one caddy... and they are amazed
RE> and impressed by the Panasonic....
Caddies are only about $5 each. Surely, that's not much to protect a CDROM
that can cost much more.
-- Roger
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From: NED MCWILLIAMS Number: 2069
To: PEYTON NORMAN Date: 08/29/93 4:20p
Subj: Your CD service Refer: NONE
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hey Peyton give me a call about my offer...434-3888 it will help us both... I
will also be a good customer in teh CD field..
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From: VINCENT CAPALBO Number: 2070
To: ALL Date: 08/30/93 3:51a
Subj: BBS CDROM Refer: NONE
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Do all CDROMS constantly spin when a disk is inside. If so a BBS
would have it spinning 24 hours. I know Tandy makes one that doesn't spin
when a disk is in it till it needs it but that one is 900 m.s.
I guess it would be ok for a BBS but not most other CD software.
Any opinions ?
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From: LOU PETRALIA Number: 2071
To: CHARLES HART Date: 08/27/93 7:34p
Subj: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Charles Hart to Michael Hajovsky <=-
CH> But, that's you total and only recourse - the moderator "owns" the
CH> Echo and does exactly what he want when he wants - and if he fails to
CH> please the bulk of the members they will stop comming[[[[[[[.[D
CH> [Dcoming, so I suspect the good moderator of this Echo is responding to
CH> member comments. -!- FreeMail 1.09
This is probily why the number of messages in this echo has decreased
since the new policy started
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 2072
To: BOB SMITH Date: 08/25/93 12:00p
Subj: COREL 3.0 IN MONTREAL Refer: NONE
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BS>Do you work with it? If so tell me... How would I make some business cards?
BS>A friend has Microsoft Publisher and says he does cards with it.. Which one
I recently made (very successfully) a batch of business cards using
cover stock (from the local student bookstore), my LaserJet 4L printer,
and Microsoft Word for Windows. The TrueType fonts I used came from the
Too Many Typefonts CD-ROM. You don't really need Corel.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 2073
To: JANUSZ SUROWKA Date: 08/25/93 12:09p
Subj: MANPOWER - NEW GAY CD-ROM Refer: NONE
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JS>oh boy, that's excellent <G> "fags on disc"
It may not be your "thing", but hey, why shouldn't it be available to
those who might be interested? A little bit of tolerance, please, for
people whose interests might be different than your own.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 2074
To: BOB JENKINS Date: 08/25/93 12:19p
Subj: Mitsumi Question Refer: NONE
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BJ> Being financially challenged, yet feverishly lusting over a CD-ROM to ca
BJ>my own, I have noticed the name "Mitsumi" (sp?). A few questions:
BJ> 1)Will this drive function with my SB 2.0 ?
Yes. But it hooks up to the SB card only at the audio level, the drive
is controlled by its own seperate interface card.
BJ> 2)How much will it put me out (I'm up here in the Great White North, near
BJ>Ottawa) ?
The drive goes for less than US$200, depending on where you buy it.
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From: TAPANI TUOMINEN Number: 2075
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 08/27/93 8:15a
Subj: Cover cd 'pc mag' Refer: NONE
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GP>PD> GC> The UK August edition of PC MAGAZINE, carries a CD on the cov
GP>It
GP>PD> GC> claims to contain a large number of the excellent utilities
GP>PD> GC> commissioned by the magazine, amongst other things.
GP>
GP>Odd.... I bought a copy of the issue in question in Greece, and mine
GP>came with (one, two?) floppy diskette (although the cover said there
GP>supposed to be a CD-ROM). Did I get cheated?
I don't know but I can reveal that the CD in question is really not
worth of anything. Only useful thing is few included TT and Type 1
fonts. All the PC-Magazine utilities included are ages old (newer
versions do exist!) and for example there is version 93 (I think) of
McAfees Scan when the current version is 107! All the other stuff are
demos or working models of mostly uninteresting software. The CD also
has an awkward installation procedure asking serial numbers
VISA-accounts and all the other completely unnecessary stuff. Removing
the files it freely installs all over your hard-drive is a real drag
afterwards and it is buggy; I managed to get few GFP-errors with its'
menu-program before I removed the crap from my HD. If you want I will
gladly sent my copy to you.
Tapani Tuominen
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From: CHRIS WOOD Number: 2076
To: DOUG SCHWANTES Date: 08/30/93 10:36a
Subj: CD-ROM disk cache Refer: NONE
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Doug Schwantes wrote in a message to All:
DS> Does anyone out there know of a good disk cache for a
DS> CD-ROM?
Norton Speedcache 4.0+ will do the job nicely for you. Otherwise you could
always buy OS/2 2.1 GA, it has built in CDROM drive caching of course..<g>.
Cheers...
Chris - Team OS/2 - Internet: cwood@hpb.hwc.ca
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From: CORKY CORCORAN Number: 2077
To: DAVID EAGEN Date: 08/30/93 10:22a
Subj: Re: 7th guest Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoted David Eagen to All about 7th guest on 08-10-93 15:12 <=-
DE> Is there a fix out for T7G that supports S3 video boards yet?
DE> Where can I get it? Dave
DE> * KWQ/2 1.2a * I didn't vote for Clinton or her idiot husband!
DE> ............................................................
DE> ..................
HI'YA! I'm from Ottawa, Canada. I had to download a fix for T7G because it
caused sound buffer failures with my SBPRO. You can download fixes from
the Virgin Games BBS. I don't know the number, but that's where I got my
fix.
TTYL!
Signed,
Virtual Humanity
... A clean desk is a sign of a cluttered desk drawer.
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From: CORKY CORCORAN Number: 2078
To: ALL Date: 08/30/93 10:42a
Subj: Mitsumi drive. Refer: NONE
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Hello all!
I am having a problem with my Mitsumi CRMC drive and Jones in the Fast Lane.
Whenever I reach a certain point in the game, my drive sits with the busy
lgith blinking and doesn't do anything. Sierra said it was because their DMA
driver was incompatible with ONLY Mitsumi drives. Is there some way to
rectify this problem? Also, is there a way to hook my drive to my SBPRO,
whenever I do, the driver won't recognize it.
Thanks people!
TTYL!
Signed,
Virtual Humanity
... "I say we nuke the site from Orbit, it's the only way to be sure"
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From: ROB MCINTYRE Number: 2079
To: MICHAEL TURNER-CRAIG Date: 08/30/93 12:13p
Subj: CD LIQUIDATION! Refer: NONE
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Well, unfortunally it isn't. Lucasfilm should do it though.
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2080
To: ALL Date: 08/29/93 8:47p
Subj: CD-ROMS: A SAMPLING Refer: NONE
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1001 Utilities (New!).........13.00 Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00
5-Star Premium Windows........27.00 Microsoft Golf MPC (New!).....58.00
7th Guest.....................45.00 Microsoft Musical Instruments.57.00
Adventures of Willy Beamish...30.00 Microsoft Works MPC...........49.00
Aircraft Encyclopedia.........36.00 Middle East Diary.............35.00
American Business Phonebk 93..39.00 Monarch Notes.................59.00
Aminet Amiga (New!)...........15.00 Monster Disc 2-Pak (92/93!)...38.50
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2081
To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 08/29/93 8:48p
Subj: NIGHT OWL 9 SPECIALS Refer: NONE
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DC> MS> ATTENTION NIGHT OWL USERS! IT'S HERE! IT'S SHIPPING! IT'S HOT!
DC> MS> AND IT'S 680+MB OF PURE 93 SHAREWARE!
DC>You make it sound like it's brand spanking new. It has been shipping for
qui
DC>some time now <g d & r>.
Do you have anything newer? <g d & r>
.\\ike
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From: BOBBY POSEY Number: 2082
To: DEVIN WOOD Date: 08/30/93 6:59a
Subj: NEC CDR-84 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> I've been considering this drive. I have a concern though. I'm a
> quadriplegic and can't move my fingers. I need a drive with a caddy so
> I don't ruin my CDs. I'm trying to find out about the doors. Needing
> to use both hands to insert ther disk, I won't be able to hold a door
> open while I do it. How are the doors set up?
I would fully reccomend the NEC drive and as far as the door is concerned it is
just like putting in a floppy..
> It's hard for me to get out to see for myself. Would anyone recommend
> another drive with similar features that they consider superior?
> Thanks,
> Devin
I have got 2 NEC drives at the present time and thinking about getting 2 more
for the BBS..
Bobby
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From: ED MELO Number: 2083
To: MARTIN ROODENBURG Date: 08/29/93 11:25a
Subj: Re: MITSUMI CD-ROM DRIVES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Once upon a time Martin Roodenburg asked about using a Mitsumi CD rom
with a sound card.
Martin, as several other posts here mentioned, you can indeed run the
audio connector from the Mitsumi to a sound card. However, there is
also another option. There are at least two brands of sound cards that
will also directly drive the CD rom. I am using a card from Aztec which
is SoundBlaster and ADLIB compatible. They have models that support the
Mitsumi and one that is for a Panasonic CD ROM. I think that the ATI
card will also support the Mitsumi but I'm not sure of that. Using one
of these cards for the interface as well as the sound card will save you
one slot.
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From: EDWARD FOSTER Number: 2084
To: LISA HUTTER Date: 08/29/93 6:46a
Subj: My New cd-rom! help Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Lisa,
Wednesday August 25 1993 21:29, Lisa Hutter wrote to All:
LH> Hi All,
LH> I've just recently installed a panisonic CD-Rom and I'm not sure how to
LH> get the most out of it...I thought that I'd be able to play musical CD's
LH> while working in Windows, etc...Of course this isn't the only reason I
LH> made this purchase but I'd thought it would be a fun feature.
Yes, it is nice feature and yes you can listen to music while working within
Windows v3.1..v3.1 has a icon in the "Control Panel" called drivers for Midi,
Sound & Recording..I hope you recieved Windows drivers for your new toy, as
they will not show up if you didn't, but I'm sure you did..Just read your
manual and see if you missed something pertaining to Windows Installation
Procedures...
All the above is if you have a sound card also...You forgot to mention if you
have one...If you don't, GET ONE!! I've been using the PAS16 for over a year
now, and the software upgrade I recently acquired was a big boost to the whole
concept of MultiMedia.
Edward Foster, " The Oasis BBs "
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 2085
To: BRENT LYNCH Date: 08/29/93 8:01p
Subj: Re: Cd-rom Games Refer: NONE
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Hey Brent, I don't think I am interested in any of those games, since I got a
demo for the Lord oft the Rings and I found out that I hate those games, anyway
I have seen a lot of Day of the Tentacle, anyway I wanna buy some kind of
simulation, car, plane or whatever so that I don't spend 50 bucks and then in a
couple weeks I beat the game and the fun is lost, so if you find any good
simulations for the CD-ROM or regular please write to me, hey have you see
World Circuit, if you have how is it, how big is it and what does it feel like?
C-ya
Ashwin
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 2086
To: GARY JOHNSON Date: 08/29/93 8:02p
Subj: CD-ROM GAMES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey Gary, I am sorry about that but would you please tell me what I wrote to
you about since I do not really remember writing a message to you? C-ya
Ashwin
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From: BRIAN ELFERT Number: 2087
To: MICHAEL KONOR Date: 08/29/93 11:52p
Subj: Re: scsi cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Give me a call. Yes, I'm using a 690meg cdrom online now.
Ok, I used to have one and it would not handle a 650 meg CD-ROM.
I'll give you a call next week.
Brian
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2088
To: DON BOSMAN Date: 08/30/93 2:10a
Subj: Re: Cdrom Systems Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BO>>Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $799.00 Pioneer DMR604X Bare -$1199.
BO>>Boris Osadciw
>> I always figure a newcomer should keep his mouth shut for a
>> while before posting. So after reading several hundred posts,
>> I have a few questions.
The only way to learn about a product is to ask questions, even if they
do sound dumb, we all started at the same point at one time or another.
>> What can you tell me, and others newbies, about the Pioneer
>> bare drives listed above? Specifically, access time, seek
>> time, transfer rates, can they fit in a 5.25 in slot, what
>> kind of interface card is required, etc. How might the above
>> compare to a couple or six Panasonic 562's on a file server?
I'd like to list everything about the systems, but that would mean a very
long message and some of the people here would get very upset over it. So,
in short, the Pioneer is a 6 disk changer. One unit offers a 600ms access
time with 150kps transfer rate. The other offers 300ms access time with
600kps transfer rate and is Kodak and MPC approved.
Niether of the uunits will fit in a 5.25 slot as they are external and
offer 6 changers in one case and as to comparing them with the new
Panasonic, well....depending on what you want to do and how you want to
do it will set the tone as to wheather they can or can not compare.
If you would like more info on the Pioneer or anyother CDROM changer,
please feel free to give us a call anytime at 216-225-3263 and we'll
be happy to assist you further as we sell every major brand system
out there as well as some no names.
Hope this helps...
Boris Osadciw
... Protected Mode Xpress! It's hot!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2089
To: ART MARKO Date: 08/30/93 2:10a
Subj: Re: RED HOT SPECIALS Refer: NONE
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BO>>$$$$$$$ R E D H O T C D' S A T R E D H O T P R I C E S $$$$$$$
>> MORE SPECIALS - AMATURE MODELS - GAME/SOUNDWARE PRICE - $25.00ec
>> The amateur models...is that an "R" or an X-title. I haven't
>> seen that one described anywhere yet. Any info...
>> BTW...your package came no problems...but the Post Office
>> didn't get the proof of del'y card signed. All's well that end
>> well though... Do you have NixPix 4?...$$??
Glad to hear it !
As far as the Amature models, please drop us a not via the node/net
number below or call us direct as we can no longer discuss adult material
here.
You can reach us at 216-225-3263 anytime....
Boris Osadciw
... What Bug! I left behind the roaches in New York!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2090
To: DON BOSMAN Date: 08/30/93 2:10a
Subj: Re: Aust. Phone Disc Refer: NONE
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BF>>and the one that sells for about $50.00 (This one is called
BF>>Australian Phone Disk).
BF>>The one that sells for $50 contains the entire Yellow and
BF>>White Pages for every state in Australia.
BF>>Why is there such a HUGE price difference between that disk
BF>>and the $1500.00 one ??????
>> I'm not familiar with the Australian version, but the U.S.A.
>> difference is accuracy.
>> ProPhone 93 for instance is $100 US and not one listing I
>> checked is fully accurate. My residential phone is four
>> years out of date, and my business, which has been in the
>> yellow pages for about six years is not listed.
If you're paying $100. for ProPhone 93, then you'd better look for
another dealer as we sell the same copy for only $25.
>> For about $900. US one can buy a more up to date disc and sign
>> up for the update service. All extra of course.
Here again, if your paying $900. then I suggest you look elsewhere as we
sell the most up to date copies for only $89.
Interested, please call us anytime and we'll be glad to assist you
further at 216-225-3263.
Boris Osadciw
... Happy as a Pig in Mud!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2091
To: JUAN-PEDRO MINON Date: 08/30/93 2:10a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM WRITER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Helo, all.
>> I am looking for a CD-ROM writer (Kodak PCD Writer 200
>> or Philips CDD 521/10).
>> Please reply to me with price, capatibilites, software
>> and specifications.
We have a Philips unit, model number CDD521WR. It comes complete
with software, SCSI interface card, cable manual. It's DOS and
Windows compatiable and has a 300kps tarnsfer rate.
The complete package price is $6300., so if your interested, please
feel free to reach us via the node/net number below or via FAX at
216-225-6759 or voice direct at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be
happy to assist you further.
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2092
To: SETH KLINE Date: 08/30/93 2:10a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Does anyone have a CD-ROM for sale? I would like it cheap but
>> it doesn't matter.
The Mitsumi is about the lowest priced cd rom you'll find out that
that offer you the most for the money.
If you need further assistance, please feel free to call us anytime
at 216-225-3263 and we'll be happy to assist you further.
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2093
To: GEOFF MOEHLE Date: 08/30/93 2:10a
Subj: Re: panasonic Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Hello!!!!!!! I was thinking about buying a double speed
>> CD-ROM from panasonic...however I was wondering about the 350
>> milisecond access time...is that REAL slow?????? Would that
>> cause problems???/ The transfer rate is a 300mb/second...and I
>> was wondering on how that might be!!!!!!!! Anyone who can tell
>> me anything about my questions would be greatfully
>> helpful!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks!!!! Geoff Moehle!
The Panasonic unit will do just fine for most applications, even a BBS
system. The main point about the system is it's multi-spin feature
that enables the unit to transfer data at a higher rate. Therefore
allowing the system to offer a much smoother display than one without
this feature.
If your interested, we do have these unit's in stock now and their
priced at $285. complete with interface, drivers and manual.
You can reach us at 216-225-3263 anytime if you have anyother questions
or would like to purchase one.
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2094
To: ALL Date: 08/30/93 2:10a
Subj: NEW CD Refer: NONE
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)))))))))))))) NEW SHAREWARE CD - SHAREWARE EXPLORER (((((((((((((((((
4 discs w/over 26,000 files 3 of which are completely DOS based files
4th disc is completely Windows 3.0/3.1 files w/over 7000 - BBS Ready
Mostly 1992/1993 files - Less than 1% duplication between the 4 cd's
Price - $55.00
Call us at 800-243-0517 and ORDER YOUR COPY TODAY !!
Or call us at 216-225-3263 anytime for additional information on this
and 500+ other CDROM titles and CDROM systems.
Boris Osadciw
... If you're not the lead dog, everything looks the same!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2095
To: ALL Date: 08/30/93 2:10a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
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*************** C D - R O M D R I V E P R I C E S ***************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit - $359.00 Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00
Texel Int 340ms Bare Dr - $245.00 LIMITED Texel Ext 340ms Kit - $359.00
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00 Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
Texel Int Complete Kit - $469.00 Texel Ext Complete - $569.00
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare - $449.00 Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$549.00
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit - $195.00 NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $799.00 Pioneer DMR604X Bare -$1199.
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50. ChestNuts CD's ALL $10.00ec
ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: BRIAN C Number: 2096
To: DAVID NGHIEM Date: 08/29/93 8:43p
Subj: Re: pioneer 600] Refer: NONE
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DN> I plan on buying a pioneer 600 changer for use for my BBS. But I am
DN> wondering that if I had six cd's on the drive at once, would they show
DN> up as 6 drives? Or do I have to alternate the cd's constantly? I hope
DN> this is a software automated process. I would hate to buy six cd's, put
DN> them on the system only to find out that I have to manually change a cd
DN> when a user wants to look at another one. If anyone can help in using
DN> the pioneer for the BBS, thanks!!!!
I'm not running one, but I have read about them in Jerry Pournelle's User
Column in BYTE, and elsewhere. Each CD is it's own Drive. The Pioneer
drive switches the disks automatically. If you have seen a Pioneer 6 disc
Cd-audio player(we have one), you will know how it works. The Pioneer is
kind of intelligent at how it switches...It only does it as needed..So you
can log on to a drive, and it won't switch..Not until you actually have to
read from the drive.
B Curnow
Criminal groups infiltrating pot farms.
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From: ROBERT POWELL Number: 2097
To: TOM ARRUDA Date: 08/30/93 7:25p
Subj: NEED NUMBER Refer: NONE
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TA>I have recently purchased a CR-562B drive from MPS. I am running from
TA>Sound Blaster 16 card. I have had nothing but problems with the drive
TA>It constantly causes "General Protection faults" when run in Windows.
TA>have the "Seventh Guest" and "Day of the Tentacle" that run under dos
TA>both lock up and halt the entire system. I am using a 486dx33 with 8m
TA>of ram ,DOS 6.0, MSCDEX 2.2,Qemm7.0, Norton SpeedCache 4.0. I need th
TA>number for Creative Labs BBS. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.
I have a SB 16 ASP with a CR-562B drive connected to it and have no
problems. I'm using DOS 6, MSCDEX 2.2, QEMM 7.01 on a 486DX266 with 32M
RAM and every thing runs beautifully. I also don't have any problems
with the Seventh Guest. I have used both the older and new SB
drivers without prblems. The only thing I have ran across is that when
I was running my bus at 16 megahertz, the SB DMA transfers failed. I
had to slow the bus back down to 11 MH and everything works fine. The
number for Creative Labs BBS is (405)742-6660.
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From: ROBERT POWELL Number: 2098
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 08/30/93 7:25p
Subj: CD-ROM HELP Refer: NONE
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GP>Yes, and THERE, RIGHT THERE, is the big GOTCHA. I wouldn't even
GP>consider buying that drive, no matter how attractive it is for any ot
GP>reason, if I am arbitrarily and forever chained to a SoundBlaster Pro
GP>16 sound card in order to be able to use the CD-ROM drive. Why? Wel
GP>let's say that in 12 months somebody (Gravis, or somebody else)
GP>introduces a hot new sound card that makes everything else obsolete
GP>overnight. In your case, you're shafted, 'cuz you can't get rid of y
GP>now-obsolete SoundBlaster card without losing your CD-ROM drive too.
I had both the Mitsumi and a Panasonic. Although the access times are
simular, the difference between a single speed Mitsumi and a double
speed Panasonic is tremendous. As locking you to a sound blaster, you
could by an optional 20 dollar controller to use the Panasonic with
another brand of sound card. You might also note that other sound card
manufactures have started supporting Sony and Panasonic drives in
addition to the Mitsumi such as Sound Galaxy. Bottom line is that the
arguement doesn't make sense. The Panasonic offers allot of bang for
the buck and is worthy of consideration.
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From: SYLV JUMAGA Number: 2099
To: LEN GLADSTONE Date: 08/29/93 9:48p
Subj: Canadian cdrom dealers?? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LG>Sylv, try CD-Rom Wholesalers of Canada, 6 Armstrong Bay,
LG>Regina Sask. S4N 4G7 Ph (306) 789-4654 voice. Contact Vince
LG>&/or Michellea Sorensen.
Thank you very much for the information! I will get a hold of
them promptly!
Thanks again,
Sylv
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From: ED FEINS Number: 2100
To: ALL Date: 08/29/93 3:25p
Subj: CD CADDIES FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have EIGHT CD-CADDIES for sale.
$25.00 - shipping INCLUDED in USA
(went "caddy-less")
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From: DONALD ZABAWA Number: 2101
To: RANDY RASA Date: 08/29/93 8:41p
Subj: Shareware for CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of 25 Aug 93 19:36:11, Randy Rasa wrote:
RR> To: All Shareware CDROM Publishers
RR>
RR> If you are interested in receiving shareware direct from the author,
RR> please post an address where you'd like a disk to be sent, or a BBS
RR> phone number where uploads can be posted.
RR>
RR> Randy Rasa
Please send to Buffaloe Village BBS, phone 215-677-9721 Phila.Pa.
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 2102
To: ALL Date: 08/30/93 8:44p
Subj: Review: Southern Beauties Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
ADDENDUM #2
Mea culpa! I erroneously referred to the 24-bit color files on Southern
Beauties as "Targa" files. In fact, they are "Tagged image format
files" or "TIFF" for short...or just .TIF in the file name. Sorry for
any confusion I may have caused; I'll try to be more careful in the
future.
... BEWARE - Tagline Thief in this echo
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From: VICTOR HEALEY Number: 2103
To: CARLOS BENITZ Date: 08/29/93 6:42a
Subj: Re: SHAREWARE AND CDS Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Carlos Benitz to Brice Fleckenstein <=-
CB> 20 Aug 93 13:27, Brice Fleckenstein wrote to Carlos Benitz:
>> FF> I think it will only be a matter of time before ""CD of the month"
>> FF> clubs start and everybody will get a nice new CD in the mailbox each
>> FF> month.
>> Were there "Disk of the mnth" clubs 10 years ago?
CB> While the readers of this echo may almost all have cdrom drives, by no
CB> means do most computers. People without computers have no need for a
CB> cdrom drive. Unlike audio cd's which could attach to almost any
CB> stereo, cdroms apply to a smaller market right now.
I understand that Atari or Commodore is issuing a new game system that
uses a CD ROM drive that will allow access to files stored for PC use on a
CDROM. Supposed to available this fall. Anyone else remeber seeing this
announcement?
... Cobb County, Ga., Where we use legal shotguns to get a few squirrels.
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From: YVES DESJARDINS Number: 2104
To: DEVIN WOOD Date: 08/30/93 7:09a
Subj: NEC CDR-84 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Devin!
29 Aug 93 12:51, Devin Wood wrote to Yves Desjardins:
DW> I thought by the way it looked it was spring loaded. I had hoped that
DW> once open it would stay open by itself. I'm not so sure I could handle
DW> it. I really have to try to get a look at one. Don't know if I can.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I would be more than please to show it to you, IF you can come over to my
place. :)
Yves
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From: YVES DESJARDINS Number: 2105
To: JANUSZ SUROWKA Date: 08/30/93 5:50p
Subj: Benchmark test for CDROM Refer: NONE
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Hello Janusz!
28 Aug 93 21:42, Janusz Surowka wrote to Yves Desjardins:
JS> If you find one, tell me.
I found one call CDBENCH from MegaDemo CD. It seems to work not too bad. I
was also looking for one called CDSPEED, that some people on the echo was
talking about, however I didn't hear from anyone just of yet.....
Yves
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From: ARNIE HAYDU Number: 2106
To: RAND Date: 08/29/93 1:56p
Subj: Comment from Arnie Haydu Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Welcome back from Vacation!
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From: DON BOSMAN Number: 2107
To: ROB LEVINE Date: 08/29/93 6:35p
Subj: Phone Directory CD's for Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RL>Need a residential phone directory CD that will run on a
RL>MAC. Know of any? ProPhone does not currently come in a
RL>MAC format.
Even if ProPhone does come out with a MAC version, I recommend avoiding
it unless they drastically improve their accuracy.
I have "ProPhone 93" and Every listing I have checked is inaccurate in
at least one area. My residential number is 4 years out of date, my
business which has been in the yellow pages for several years is not
listed. One set of store franchises (I wanted to mail to) has over 130
stores, more than 70 of these stores have been in business for over
two years, but ProPhone 93 lists only 26. It gets worse.
The company's sales manager(?) Charles McDermitt, maintains that the
product is intended to be an aid to those who can't afford the big
bucks for an updated service. I maintain that one can't afford to
purchase his product as it is so out of date as to be a waste of time
and resources.
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From: DON BOSMAN Number: 2108
To: ALL Date: 08/29/93 6:43p
Subj: 562x+SB16+coftware $399 Refer: NONE
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If they are in your area you might want to check out Software Etc.
They have a Panasonic upgrade kit for $399. U.S.
It includes the 562 drive, a Sound Blaster 16 board, and 4 CD's.
The CD's are: ROM Material
SelectWare Classic Collection
F-14 Tomcat
F-19 Stealth Fighter
JetFighter I
Knights of the Sky
Software JukeBox
LINKS The Challenge of Golf
FACES ... TRIS III
Berenstain Bears Fun With Colors
CD Master
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From: RON WILKEY Number: 2109
To: ATZ Date: 08/30/93 9:06p
Subj: ATZ Refer: NONE
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From: ROBERT HAWORTH Number: 2110
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 08/29/93 9:46p
Subj: New Roland Compat Sound C Refer: NONE
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Henry.
It's not the turtle beach card which from memory isn't compatible with anything
and isn't supported by much either. No this card is by some previously unknown
company who I think have been making SB clones for a while primarily for the
Asian and US markets. I can't remeber the name of the card but it had a picture
of a paint tube on the outside of the box and was at the PowerSource stand at
the Melbourne PC show. I don't know whether PowerSource is the sole distributor
but if they are they have offices in Sydney and
Melbourne. I'd be interested if the $600 price tag was just a show special or
the normal price. Its certainly cheap for a Roland SCC-1 card even without all
the extra compatiblity with MS Sound System and the SB. The support for both
types of CD-ROM drives is good because you can go for the cheapest at the time.
Sorry can't be of much more assistance. It will be interesting to see what
price sound blaster sell this card for next year when they licence it.
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2111
To: MIKE AVILA Date: 08/29/93 8:49p
Subj: 16 bit cards Refer: NONE
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Hi Mike!
On 08-21-93 Mike Avila wrote to Rowan Evans...
MA> *** Quoting Rowan Evans to Joel Dumas dated 08-18-93 ***
MA> >
MA> > Standard SCSI-1, with a S.L.O.W. 680Kbps max transfer rate!
MA>
MA> The PAStudio16 is NOT SCSI-1, it IS SCSI-2. The Psectrun is SCSI-1.
Still has the same cruddy 680 or 690 Kbps max transfer rate though!
MA> > A dealer tried to interest me in a PAS 16/Texel... They wanted over
MA> > $1300.00 for the combo and, (they also sold the SB kit!) when SHOWN
MA>
MA> WOW! That is an outragous price. I got the Texel drive and the
MA> PAStudio16 at different times but from the same place and total cost
MA> including shipping was under $750 (don't remember EXACT
MA> amount). Matter of a fact I believe it was just under $725.
Oops! I should have put $A in front of the $ 1,300.00! $US725.00 / .6700
(or so) exchange rate means that is over $A1,000.00 (without customs
duty, shipping & sales tax!)....
MA> I am very happy with the combination. I like the Texel
MA> drive but I LOVE the PAStudio16 very much.
I'd have loved to keep the PAS 16 I had.... but it doesn't, and will
never, support the Panasonic CD-ROM... It had to go....
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2112
To: MARCUS LEE Date: 08/29/93 8:52p
Subj: ATI + 7th Refer: NONE
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Hi Marcus!
On 08-23-93 Marcus Lee wrote to Rowan Evans...
ML> I was thinking of purchasing an ATI Graphics Ultra Pro
ML> 2mb/EISA... and I noticed you said you had probs playing
ML> 7th Guest and only 86% optimal on the video...
ML>
ML> Are the probs related to the ATI card?
No, turned out to be an older version of the CD-ROM driver!
ML> And 86%.... I thought it would have to be 100% being such a great
ML> card... Do you run the vesa drivers that came on the CDROM?
Well, I'd have expected it too.. I just did a standard install...
The ATI GUPro I have is the ISA version - *6% is still plenty fast enough
for all the graphics in T7G!
ML> PS: How much do you think is a good price for the ATI, I've
ML> got around $780 quoted...
That's about the market.....
ML> Oh, and do you know ANY video cards that get 100%?
Yep! The local bus SVGA on another machine I have rated 100%!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2113
To: MICHAEL GEGGUS Date: 08/29/93 8:57p
Subj: Re: BEGINING... Refer: NONE
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Hi Michael!
On 08-23-93 Michael Geggus wrote to Rowan Evans...
MG> MG> CD ROM I/F and audio connector. MegaDemo Benched it at 250ms
MG> MG> access and 330Kbps.
MG> RE>
MG> RE> That's interesting... it only spex at 300Kbps and 450ms in
MG> RE> double-speed mode!
MG>
MG> Different Machines/environments/benchmarks/references....My Mitsumi
MG> book indicated a 350ms access and MegaDemos CDbench said it was 400ms
MG> and 150kBps.....The real key was during operations, I noticed the
MG> difference straight away.
Yeah, It comes across as a fast drive... the spex I quoted were
Panasonic's own spex... Not what mine benchmarked to....
MG> RE> What command line parameters did you use for CDMKE41.SYS.... I
MG> RE> couldn't get it to work so I changed to SBCD.SYS (and it works
MG> RE> fine!).....
MG>
MG> This is it.......
MG> devicehigh /L:2,13440 =C:\CDMKE41.SYS /D:MVCD001 /R /SBP:220 /N:1 /A:
MG>
MG> I only added the /A: from the read.me text on the driver disk, it's
MG> not really necessary it should default to doublespeed. I've tried it
MG> high and low, and both run great with same spex.
Thanx! I got no doco for CDMKE41.SYS and it had a parameter /P:300 for
the 8-bit interface. When connected to the SB16 ASP it didn't take any
notice of /P:220!
Cheers!
o
/U\
PS The Mitsumi?? Find someone that wants a real cheap CD-ROM! <g>
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2114
To: TONY STOTT Date: 08/29/93 9:09p
Subj: Price Confusion Refer: NONE
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Hi Tony!
On 08-25-93 Tony Stott wrote to Rowan Evans...
TS> MA>> $1300.00 for the combo and, (they also sold the SB kit!) when
TS> MA>WOW! That is an outragous price. I got the Texel drive and the
TS>
TS> Rowan (and everyone else too), can I gently suggest that due to this
TS> being an international echo, we all include the symbol for the
TS> currency we are referring to when we quote a dollar amount?
TS>
TS> Common abbreviations are as follows:-
TS> Australian $ AUD or A$
TS> US $ USD or US$
TS> Canadian $ CAN or CAN$
TS>
TS> There appears to be many messages where the different currencies used
TS> without being indentified as such create misunderstanding. Thanks
Oops! I do try, but sometimes I forget!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2115
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 08/29/93 9:14p
Subj: New Mpc Specs Refer: NONE
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Hi Brice!
On 08-24-93 Brice Fleckenstein wrote to Rowan Evans...
BF> > GM> By the way,what's that about 640*480*65,535 cols? A SVGA card
BF> > GM> is still 256 or am I confused here?
BF>
BF> > You're confused.... An SVGA card with 1Mb on it is capable of
BF> > displaying 65,536 colours in 640x480 resolution in Windows....
BF>
BF> Actually, cards that do more than 256 colors are generally NOT refered
BF> to as "superVGA" but more commonly "truecolor" or some such terminology..
Well, true colour cards are normally 24bit colour (16.7 Million colours!).
I guess the problem arises as no-one has standardised a name for deeper
colour modes of 640x480.... Anything of higher resolution (800x600) is
normally termed SVGA, but as the original VGA spec only had 64Kb RAM,
then anything over *SHOULD* be at least termed SVGA to differentiate
from 64Kb VGA cards!
This whole thread got started because I added (1Mb SVGA Card) to the
MPC Level 2 spec on the video card as I didn't think that most people
would quickly grasp that 640x480x65,536 colours requires more than
a standard, el-cheapo VGA card!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2116
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 08/29/93 9:18p
Subj: Pro Audio Or Soundbl Refer: NONE
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Hi Again Brice!
On 08-24-93 Brice Fleckenstein wrote to Rowan Evans...
BF> > T7G install, which a few people are using as a measure of "how fast
BF> > their CD-ROM drive is" reports on three installs I have seen :-
BF>
BF> > PAS 16/NEC CDR-55 - 300Kbps
BF> > SB16 ASP/Panasonic CR563 - 584Kbps
BF> > SB16 ASP/Panasonic CR563 - 612Kbps! (Different machine!)
BF>
BF> Try it with a SCSI drive that is doublespin for a FAIR comparison.
The NEC CDR-55 *IS* a doublespin drive!
BF> Better yet, try it with a Pioneer DRM-604X on a FAST SCSI card like
BF> the Allways IN-2000 or Adaptec 154x - the PAS is OK, but it's SCSI
BF> interface is NOT a fast one (generally doesn't NEED to be with most
BF> CD-ROM drives)....
Want to lend me a DRM-604x so's I can test it?? <g>
BTW, as I have said before, the NEC 55 and 74-1 performed to within 5%
whether they were attached to the PAS16 *OR* an Adaptec 1540B!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2117
To: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Date: 08/29/93 9:22p
Subj: Re: New Mpc Specs Refer: NONE
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Hi Giuliano!
On 08-22-93 Giuliano Maciocci Jr. wrote to Rowan Evans...
GM> RE> You're confused.... An SVGA card with 1Mb on it is capable of
GM> RE> displaying 65,536 colours in 640x480 resolution in Windows....
GM> RE> SVGA is basically anything over a 64Kb VGA card (640x480x16)
GM> RE> .... and that includes the additional colour depth.....
GM>
GM> Gosh, so a VGA with 1MEG can display all those colours AT ONCE???
GM> Sounds too good to be true, but maybe.... I have a TRIDENT 8900c, 1
GM> MEG. Can I do that display? With what drivers? Please
GM> someone clear my mind!!
Is this sarcasm?? Or do you really want to know??
If you want 640x480x64K colours, you'll need the driver for the Trident
card..... You should have it on the diskette that came with your card!
BTW, we'd better cut this thread, as its straying too far off the MPC
Level 2 spec (which is on-topic! I hope!) and I don't want to get my
knuckles rapped!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2118
To: DON BOSMAN Date: 08/29/93 9:44p
Subj: cr562, 563, info wanted Refer: NONE
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Hi Don!
On 08-24-93 Don Bosman wrote to All...
DB> I have been reading here for a while and have a few questions.
DB> The Panasonic CR562b seems to be the drive of choice.
DB> What is the difference between it and the 563?
None. The only difference is that the 563 is OEMed to Creative Labs.
DB> Is there a difference between the 562 and the 562b?
Don't think the 562 ever made it to market!
DB> I have a SB Pro 16, used to have the drive (522 I think) that came in
DB> the Creative Labs kit. Can the 562x just plug and play using the same
DB> settings that came with the kit's setup?
You'll need either SBCD.SYS or CDMKE41.SYS (the double speed driver) but
otherwise, yes.
DB> Can two or more 562's be daisy chained on the SB Pro 16?
Yes, just change one drive' sdrive select jumper and add both drives to
SBCD.SYS and MSCDEX.EXE.
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2119
To: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Date: 08/29/93 9:51p
Subj: Re: CDROM forsale Refer: NONE
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Hi Giuliano!
On 08-22-93 Giuliano Maciocci Jr. wrote to Wee Yung...
GM> Sunday August 08 1993, Wee Yung tells Janusz Surowka:
GM>
GM> WY> CD-ROM Panasonic 562B 320ms w/contlr caddyless 300k/s
GM> 64kcache.$279.
GM>
GM> Sorry to barge in, but that Pan. 562B seems EXACTLY the
GM> same as a NEC I saw advertised some time ago, price
GM> included. Is it the same? Could you PLEASE,
GM> PLEEEEEEAAASSSEE tell me all there is to know about that
GM> specific drive and how it goes with a Sound Blaster Pro?
EMFBI, But the Panasonic CR562B *LOVES* to talk to *ANY* SoundBlaster
card that includes a CD-ROM interface!
300Kbps transfer rate and spec'd 320ms (single speed) and 450ms (double
speed) avg access rates, but seems to be able to do better.....
Motorised tray loading....
You'll need either SBDC.SYS or CDMKE41.SYS to get it to talk to your
SB Pro as SBPCD.SYS does not support the double speed CD-ROM!
Buy one, you'll love it!
o
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From: LAURIE BATT Number: 2120
To: LOUIS GHINIS Date: 08/30/93 12:06a
Subj: Police Quest 4 (CD-ROM) Refer: NONE
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G'day Louis, In a message on <Aug 26>, you said :
LG> through a mail order company i've seen those games were when
LG> new around $49 u.s. 3 times the price. What I don't like
LG> about sierra is they charge the cd version the exact same
LG> price as the disk version when their making more profit on
LG> the cd version instead of the disk version if you calculate
LG> a typical sierra game on disk takes 10 disks thats 30cents
LG> each thats $3 american now a cd version would cost less than
LG> $1 now that extra $2 savings if they were to take that off
What about all the extra work they put in producing the CDROM version, I
suppose you expect them to do this for nothing. I think is very commendable of
them to sell for the same price as the floppy version. You are lucky they dont
charge a whole lot more, as they have to a lot of extra work to produce the
CDROM version, particularly when they apparently have used proffesional actors
to do the voices.
Laurie
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From: DANIEL TSUI Number: 2121
To: YVES DESJARDINS Date: 08/29/93 9:31a
Subj: Benchmark test for CDROM Refer: NONE
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> Hello All!
> I'm looking for some type of benchmark test for a CDROM. Any
> suggestion? What is the "standard" benchmark test. Also where
> can I get it?
I have a CD called MegaDEMO which has a bench mark program on it. This is
produced by Profit Press. voice 602-577-9696
daniel
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From: RAJIV JOSHI Number: 2122
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/30/93 1:20p
Subj: Toshiba xm-3401ta Refer: NONE
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do you know the difference between the toshiba 3301, 5500a, 3401b, and the
3401ta?
Raj
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From: RAJIV JOSHI Number: 2123
To: ALL Date: 08/30/93 1:26p
Subj: Toshiba 3401ta Refer: NONE
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Does anyone with an amiga, and an xetec software interface have the driver
that runs the above drive?
Raj
Ps. i can run other toshiba cd-rom drivers but it's not perfect
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From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 2124
To: DARRELL DAVIS Date: 08/29/93 6:21p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM BUNDLES Refer: NONE
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-> I just ordered a Fusion 16 package with a 380 ms drive. I
-> ordered it
-> directly from Media Vision. Most of the retail stores seem to have
-> older packages on the shelves. The package was $399 with $9
-> shipping.
That was a typo you said 800ms there ok that sounds right.
Louis
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From: GARY KORPAN Number: 2125
To: ALL Date: 08/30/93 7:21a
Subj: Space CDROMs Refer: NONE
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Folks, could anyone describe the best space related cdrom's they've seen
please. (Not Our Solar System which is pathetic). Thanks in advance.
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From: PETER DETTELIS Number: 2126
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/30/93 12:14a
Subj: Cd-rom Liquidation! Refer: NONE
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What is the Kodak Photo CD you have listed. I might be interested in this.
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From: PETER DETTELIS Number: 2127
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/30/93 12:16a
Subj: NEW CD 4-PAK: $59 Refer: NONE
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Is this the upgraded version of the Shareware Bonanza and Shareware
Extravaganza package?
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From: JOHN PEARCE Number: 2128
To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 08/30/93 5:59p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Refer: NONE
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DC> Call our BBS at 615-478-2890 HST or 615-479-1047 14400 and
DC> download PCJCDS.ZIP. You'll find some of the lowest
Is the file available for f'req? By points or just systems in the nodelist?
-John-
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From: CHRIS FRANCIS Number: 2129
To: KEVIN PLUMMER Date: 08/30/93 11:27p
Subj: Re: Night Owl 9 ? Refer: NONE
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KP>On 07 Aug 93 17:45:00, I heard John Stephenson shout to All:
KP>JS> Has anyone got NO9 ?
KP>JS>
KP>JS> Is it a vast upgrade to NO8 ?
KP>JS>
KP>JS> Cheers,
KP>JS>
KP>JS> John Stephenson
KP> N i g h t O w l 9 . 0
KP> ******************************************************************
KP> ********* *********
KP> *********** $ 25.00 a Copy !!! ***********
KP> ********* *********
KP> *********** ***********
KP> ********* Ask for Barney *********
KP> *********** ------------------ ***********
KP> ********* 1-800-...-.... *********
KP> *********** ***********
KP> ********* We Will NOT be out Sold *********
KP> *********** ***********
KP> ******************************************************************
KP> N i g h t O w l 9 . 0
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You didn't answer the question!!! I would like to know also.
NO AD'S PLEASE!!
Chris :)
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From: CHRIS FRANCIS Number: 2130
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/30/93 11:44p
Subj: SBPro - pc speaker on mb. Refer: NONE
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RE> MW> But while I was looking at the SBPro board, I noticed a plug that
RE> MW> was identified as PC SPEAKER. Does anyone know anything about
RE> MW> this? The manual has no explanation of what it's for. It's 2
RE> MW> prongs and my speaker wire won't match it because it's 4 prongs.
RE> I'd suggest that us a PC Speaker *IN* connection... use a connection from
RE> your m/b spkr connection to the SB Pro and you should then get all your
RE> speaker bbeps and squeeks through the SoundBlaster!
Be VERY carefull when you hook this up! If one plug is in backwards this
can damage or DESTROY your Sound Blaster and/or your motherboard!
If you do decide to do this get the tech manual on your motherboard and
check the pin assingments on the speaker jack.
The assignment on the motherboard for the speaker is pin 1 and pin 4 on
the jack, however, which pin is +5 volts and which pin is the speaker
pin can varry from board to board. You might be able to check this with
a multimeter.
As for the SBPRO....
Pin 1 --- +5 volts in
Pin 2 --- Speaker output
I didn't connect mine because my motherboard manual didn't say what pin
did what, and the meter readings were to close together to be of any
help. Better save than sorry! Let a service tech do it. That way if he
breaks your main board or sound card HE can buy you a new one!
Chris :)
* OLX 2.1 * I used spot remover on my dog. Now he's gone!
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From: SAND DIRT Number: 2131
To: RANDY MCANALLY Date: 08/30/93 4:27a
Subj: 7th Guest incompatibilti Refer: NONE
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Mr President, Randy Mcanally was captured
speaking of 7th Guest incompatibiliti to Paul Nusbaum!
Very well, shoot him!
RM> My friend has seventh guest with a Sound Galaxy NX Pro (which is
RM> compatible with almost ALL other cards), and about a minute of music
RM> played directly off the CD won't pass through the card for some
RM> reason. Headphones must be used.
RM> Randy
If you are talking about the beginning, which it seems like you must
be, then that is the section of raw CD-Audio. Unlike the rest of the
game, that is not software produced music. Try it in your CD player
and see. While your at it, if you haven't tried to play the tracks off
the second CD, do that. Just stay away from those data tracks<G>.
... Perot of Borg: Resistance? Now that's just sad.
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From: ROY COCHRUN Number: 2132
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 08/31/93 5:53a
Subj: Re: Precision mapping Refer: NONE
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I missed earlier message(s) on this thread. Which mapping program/disc
are you discussing? I collect them (altho I have no idea why!!) --
regards, Roy Cochrun
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From: WAYNE MAJORS Number: 2133
To: LOU PETRALIA Date: 08/30/93 9:07p
Subj: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
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In a msg on <Aug 27 19:34>, Lou Petralia writes to Charles Hart:
LP> -=> Quoting Charles Hart to Michael Hajovsky <=-
CH> I suspect the good moderator of this Echo is responding to member
CH> comments. -!-
LP> This is probily why the number of messages in this echo has
LP> decreased since the new policy started
But the quality is returning...
If you want smut, you can find lots of other echos for that... but for solid
CD ROM info.. This is the place.
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From: SCOTT HOLMES Number: 2134
To: BRENT LYNCH Date: 08/31/93 7:35a
Subj: Re: cd-rom games Refer: NONE
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-> Return of the Phantom: Same as Disk version, except saves about 20+
-> megs of space on the old HD
I don't have this game (don't even have CD-ROM drive yet), but I thought I read
that the CD version would include a lot more digitized speach if not a complete
talkie.
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From: SCOTT HOLMES Number: 2135
To: ALL Date: 08/31/93 7:55a
Subj: Panasonic 563 & sb16 asp Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
It is nice to see so many other people that have the Sound Blaster 16 ASP
too. I have been quite pleased with the output, but have had a little trouble
with a couple games. Most distributers are willing to create patches for sound
cards, but LucasArts has not. I have X-Wing and it seems to have a little
trouble with the sound (because of the SB16 I am told). I plan to purchase a
CD-ROM drive and the Panasonic seems like the one for me (probably the 563),
but I am wondering if peoople with games from LucasArts (Day of the
tentical...) on CD have had sound trouble. Or any game or utility with the SB16
for that matter.
Thanks!
Scott H.
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From: JD BROWN Number: 2136
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 08/30/93 7:31p
Subj: CDROM Slows BBS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LR> The best network solution I have found for CD-ROM drives is a
CD-ROM
LR> network called CD-SHARE.
The best network solution I have found for multiple CDROMS, is
OS/2 2.1 and Lan Server 3.0.
___This copy of KWQ/2 1.2a has been registered. Has yours?
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 2137
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/31/93 7:43p
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE> You're a dealer aren't you Poe?? Its probably
RE> cheaper for you to get
RE> caddies than it is for the average user.... Most
RE> users I know of with
RE> caddy type drives can only afford one caddy... and
RE> they are amazed and
RE> impressed by the Panasonic....
Not necessarily. Most places charge dealers almost the same cost as you can
get them for everyday at $4.95 each unless you buy a couple hundred of them....
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From: CARLOS BENITZ Number: 2138
To: ALAN WILLIAMS Date: 08/31/93 12:04a
Subj: Cd-Rom Program Wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AW>Anyone selling "Shadow President" on CD-ROM?
What is it?
* SLMR 2.1 * Please smash head through monitor to continue.
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 2139
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/31/93 4:05p
Subj: Mac CD Info Refer: NONE
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I have been searching for MAC CD's, primarily ones that are Educational. The
reason for my call to you was to procure the "1993 Grolier's Multimedia
Encyclopedia" plus 4 caddies. A Mac version of this encyclopedia is out on the
street. I saw it listed in the Educational Resources Catalog (800) 624-2926.
This is a Macintosh resource catalog. EduCorp is another CD resource for Mac
users (800) 843-9497. Tiger Software offers MAC CD as does Computer
Town..there's more. You migh want to consider carrying MAC CD's..there's
definitely a Market
The new AppleCD 300 supports the following formats: HFS ( Hierarchical File
System), ISO 9660 (this includes audio and Photo CD's) and the High Sierra
format...Chat w/ ya later....m2
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From: JIM BROOKS Number: 2140
To: ALL Date: 08/31/93 8:25p
Subj: CD-ROM for OS/2 2.1 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
*@ORIGIN :1:377/50 N
Can anyone recommend a good external CD-ROM that is compatible with and
has drivers for OS/2 2.1, and does not cost an arm and a leg? If so,
where can I purchase one?
Thanks in advance,
Jim Brooks
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From: RONALD LEON Number: 2141
To: JANUSZ SUROWKA Date: 08/31/93 10:24p
Subj: MANPOWER - NEW GAY CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GP>JS>oh boy, that's excellent <G> "fags on disc"
Hahahahaa!!!
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From: RONALD LEON Number: 2142
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/31/93 11:49p
Subj: OS/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BO>==================== OS2 ON CD For Only $65.00 ? ====================
BO> IN STOCK
BO> Until Septemeber 14, 1993 you can purchase the complete OS/2 v2.21
BO> package, which offer's you the installation disks, cd, manuals and
BO> other special discounts for only $65.00!
BO> Here's how it works, purchase OS/2 v 2.21 for $95.00 and mail in the
BO> rebate coupon to IBM and get a $30. rebate direct from them, bottom
BO> line is the new version of OS/2 is yours for only $65.
Isn't that deal ONLY available to registered users of previous versions of
OS/2? I think it is.
Ron
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From: RONALD LEON Number: 2143
To: ALL Date: 08/31/93 11:49p
Subj: OS/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BO>==================== OS2 ON CD For Only $65.00 ? ====================
BO> IN STOCK
BO> Until Septemeber 14, 1993 you can purchase the complete OS/2 v2.21
BO> package, which offer's you the installation disks, cd, manuals and
BO> other special discounts for only $65.00!
BO> Here's how it works, purchase OS/2 v 2.21 for $95.00 and mail in the
BO> rebate coupon to IBM and get a $30. rebate direct from them, bottom
BO> line is the new version of OS/2 is yours for only $65.
Isn't that deal ONLY available to registered users of previous versions of
OS/2? I think it is.
Ron
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From: MICHAEL KONOR Number: 2144
To: BRIAN ELFERT Date: 08/31/93 11:48a
Subj: Re: scsi cdrom Refer: NONE
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>-> Give me a call. Yes, I'm using a 690meg cdrom online now.
>
>Ok, I used to have one and it would not handle a 650 meg CD-ROM.
>
>I'll give you a call next week.
This one works fine out to 690 megs. With the new roms, I haven't had a
problem and I've read everything off of the drive that's in the root.
*FSED91j*
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From: JEFF BRYANT Number: 2145
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 08/30/93 8:26p
Subj: Re: ENCYCLOPEDIA'S Refer: NONE
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........
JL>Computer Works Jim...
JL>CD-Rom Sales!
JL>(205) 793-4481 Voice
JL>(205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card & COD Orders
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Is this BBS up 24 hrs? I tried calling, and got no connect. I can"t hear
my modem speaker, so I don't know if there was no answer, voice answer
or what, I know it wasn't busy. It's POSSIBLE I got the wrong number. :o
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From: RICHARD NIXON Number: 2146
To: MARCUS LEE Date: 08/31/93 2:17a
Subj: Ati + 7th Refer: NONE
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ML> I was thinking of purchasing an ATI Graphics Ultra Pro 2mb/EISA...
ML> and I noticed you said you had probs playing 7th Guest and only 86%
ML> optimal on the video...
ML>
A word of advice... if you are not going to run OS/2 or care little
about tech support, the ATI should be a okay company to do business
with. If you plan to run OS/2 or need drivers for other non-Windows
operating system, then you might want to consider Orchid or some other
company.
ATI has refused to write drivers for OS/2 because they feel that NT is
the way to go... W/O going into an OS debate, I think a company should
write drivers for every operating system (currently, there are about 6,
including Unix, on the PC) and let the user decide.
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From: RICHARD NIXON Number: 2147
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/31/93 2:40a
Subj: OS/2 CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BO> ==================== OS2 ON CD For Only $65.00 ?
BO> ====================
BO> IN STOCK
BO> Until Septemeber 14, 1993 you can purchase the complete OS/2 v2.21
BO> package, which offer's you the installation disks, cd, manuals and
BO> other special discounts for only $65.00!
BO> Here's how it works, purchase OS/2 v 2.21 for $95.00 and mail in the
BO> rebate coupon to IBM and get a $30. rebate direct from them, bottom
BO> line is the new version of OS/2 is yours for only $65.
The only way to get the $30 back is if you own a previous version of
OS/2 (2.0 or 1.3).
* KWQ/2 1.2a * "640K ought to be enough for anybody." - Bill Gates, 1981
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 2148
To: ALL Date: 08/31/93 11:19p
Subj: Busty Babes Release 2.0 is Back Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* * B U S T Y B A B E S * * RELEASE 2.0 * * IS BACK!! * *
Will be re-released in September. We are taking pre-orders.
The Price - $36.95. We will meet any price on it.
Features: 675+ MB of Erotica Viewing Pleasure - 1,000 Copyrited
High Resolution VGA/SVGA Pics including the Busty Babes
Fully BBS Ready with text files in Files.BBS format
New Show Off Interface with easy menu installation
PCJ Computing-Voice 615-339-0235/Fax 615-479-1047/Orders 800-547-7817
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From: JD BROWN Number: 2149
To: MARK WIMMER Date: 08/31/93 4:54p
Subj: CD ROM disk cache Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MW> DS> Does anyone out there know of a good disk cache for a CD-ROM?
OS/2
___This copy of KWQ/2 1.2a has been registered. Has yours?
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From: MICHAEL KESSLER Number: 2150
To: ALL Date: 08/31/93 8:35p
Subj: AMIGA CD ROM.. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
What type of CD ROM would be good for a Amiga 2000. The CD ROM should be able
to play photo CD's and of course be compatable with CD TV disks as well as PC
CD's (Mods,gifs ect). Price should resonable if possible.
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From: RODOLFO LUCAS Number: 2151
To: ALL Date: 08/27/93 8:21p
Subj: JOGOS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Alguem que conheça jogos para CD-ROM poderia me informar
qual säo os melhores do Gênero ?
Obrigado, Rodolfo Lucas
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From: MARCILIO BARBOSA Number: 2152
To: RODOLFO LUCAS Date: 08/28/93 3:17p
Subj: JOGOS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RL> Alguem que conheça jogos para CD-ROM poderia me informar
>qual säo os melhores do Gênero ?
RL> Obrigado, Rodolfo Lucas
>---
Rodolfo,
eu nao conheco outros. Mas, se tiver oportunidade (US$), nao deixe de
comprar o "The 7th Guest" (custa US$90.00 na Icon - 262-5737). Empaquei
em alguns quebra-cabecas,mas continuo ttentando a solucao.
Voce nao vai se arrepender.
Abracos,
Marcilio.
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From: LUCIANO MUNHOZ Number: 2153
To: BEN BARTON Date: 08/28/93 1:10p
Subj: Mitsumi Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> LM>
> LM>Could anybody, please, give me some techinical specifications about
> LM>CD-ROM drives?
> LM>
> LM>Regards,
> LM>Luciano Munhoz
> LM>
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> LM> * Origin: Hi you! I'm here!!! (4:801/49.52)
> LM>
> What kind of infor do you need?
Acess time, kb/s rate, what comes together (CDs, controler card).
It's true it comes with a SCSI controler?
Etc, etc, etc..
- Luciano -
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From: CHRISTIAN GRIMM Number: 2154
To: LUIZ MEYER Date: 08/27/93 6:28p
Subj: scsi cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LM > -=> Quoting Christian Grimm to Michael Konor <=-
LM > CG> * Em mensagem para All, Michael Konor disse:
LM > MK > SCSI CDROMs For Sale:
LM > MK > Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM External $200.00
LM > MK > Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM Internal $180.00
LM > MK > Works great on MS-DOS, OS/2, Amiga, and Mac. Features 50
LM > MK > Pin True SCSI,
LM > MK > 300ms access, 156k transfer, newest EPROMs installed, and
LM > MK > 64k Buffer.
LM > MK > Service Center Refurbished. MPC Compliant. Warranty
LM > MK > 205-837-5053 anytime.
LM > CG> De que cidade você é?
LM > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
LM > You really don't think he'll understand what you're
LM > saying, do you?
Sorry, I wrote in portuguese, I didn't know you are american. I asked what is
your home city. I saw these prices that you wrote and I wanted to know your
city because I
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From: CHRISTIAN GRIMM Number: 2155
To: LUIZ MEYER Date: 08/27/93 6:31p
Subj: scsi cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LM > -=> Quoting Christian Grimm to Michael Konor <=-
LM > CG> * Em mensagem para All, Michael Konor disse:
LM > MK > SCSI CDROMs For Sale:
LM > MK > Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM External $200.00
LM > MK > Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM Internal $180.00
LM > MK > Works great on MS-DOS, OS/2, Amiga, and Mac. Features 50
LM > MK > Pin True SCSI,
LM > MK > 300ms access, 156k transfer, newest EPROMs installed, and
LM > MK > 64k Buffer.
LM > MK > Service Center Refurbished. MPC Compliant. Warranty
LM > MK > 205-837-5053 anytime.
LM > CG> De que cidade você é?
LM > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
LM > You really don't think he'll understand what you're
LM > saying, do you?
LM > See ya!
LM > Luiz Meyer
LM > ... Danger, Christian Grimm! Off-topic messages! Danger!
LM > --- Blue Wave/RA v2.12 [NR]
LM > * Origin: < Top BBS > [Ctba,PR,BR*041-273-5895*14.4
LM > V32b*14H-6H] (4:804/3.0)
Epa, voce nao e' americano! Eu pensei que estava repondedo para o americano,
mas a mensagem nao veio dele, e sim de voce.
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From: LUIZ MEYER Number: 2156
To: CHRISTIAN GRIMM Date: 08/27/93 10:25p
Subj: scsi cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Christian Grimm to Luiz Meyer <=-
CG> De que cidade você é?
LM> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
LM > You really don't think he'll understand what you're
LM > saying, do you?
LM > See ya!
LM > Luiz Meyer
CG> Epa, voce nao e' americano! Eu pensei que estava repondedo para o
CG> americano, mas a mensagem nao veio dele, e sim de voce. -!-
And it took you two messages to notice this!?!? 8-O
Better luck next time boy! 8-)))
Bye!
Luiz Meyer
... RadioActivity ... Is in the air for you and me ...
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From: DON BOSMAN Number: 2157
To: LOUIS GHINIS Date: 08/30/93 12:34p
Subj: 56x daisy-chainable now Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LG> There is no 562 theres just the 562b and the 563 the 563 is the same
LG>as the 562b the only difference is the 563 model is to be sold as a
LG>-> Can two or more 562's be daisy chained on the SB Pro 16?
LG> The answer to that is no
Thanks for the info. I picked one up over the weekend. Nice drive.
Oh, and by the way, the 56x series can now be daisy chained. They are
addressable and up to four can be chained together. It says in the
manual that a 52x can also be used, but the address can not be changed
and is assumed to be 0.
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2158
To: BOB SHUSTER Date: 09/01/93 1:44a
Subj: Re: Mac cd-roms Refer: NONE
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>> Hey Boris - how about a listing of your Macintosh titles?
>> They dn't have to be Mac specific, they can be dual format. -
Will try to post a few Bob, but I've stated before, doesn't seem
like there's a lot of interest in MAC cd's.
Dr. CD
... Silver Xpress!...... Pioneering Off-line Mail Technology!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2159
To: DAVID NGHIEM Date: 09/01/93 1:44a
Subj: Re: pioneer 600] Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> I plan on buying a pioneer 600 changer for use for my BBS.
>> But I am wondering that if I had six cd's on the drive at
>> once, would they show up as 6 drives? Or do I have to
>> alternate the cd's constantly? I hope this is a software
>> automated process. I would hate to buy six cd's, put them on
>> the system only to find out that I have to manually change a
>> cd when a user wants to look at another one. If anyone can
>> help in using the pioneer for the BBS, thanks!!!!
The Pioneer 600 will act just like 6 seperate drives or can be used as
one logical drive with 6 seperate directories, this is of cource software
driven and another package all together.
As to access the drive it's just the same as if you were to type A:, B:,
etc. Almost any BBS software package will handle a Pioneer unit without
a problem.
If you need further assistance, please feel free to give us a call at
216-225-3263 anytime 7 days a week and we'll be happy to assist you
further as we do sell both the 600 and the 604x.
Hope this helps...
Boris Osadciw
... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2160
To: ALL Date: 09/01/93 1:44a
Subj: TOSHIBA SPECIAL Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% TOSHIBA 3401 CDROM Player %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
200ms access time - 330kps transfer rate w/ 1.2meg burts mode -
Novell - OS/2 - Windows compatiable - Mutli-spin - Multisession
Kodak approved - caddy system.
Internal Bare Drive - $389. - Bare = Drive, caddy and manual
External Bare Drive - $489. - Same as above
Pro Studio 16 with above purchase only $225. while supply lasts
Media Vision Upgrade Kit - $25.00
ORDER LINE ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH - 216-225-3263 - FAX - 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
... If you're not the lead dog, the view can be very interesting!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2161
To: ALL Date: 09/01/93 1:44a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
*************** C D - R O M D R I V E P R I C E S ***************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit - $359.00 Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00
Panasonic 561 Int Kit - $289.00 Phillips Ext kit refur $195.00
Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $799.00 Pioneer DMR604X Bare - $1199.
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00 Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
Texel Int Complete Kit - $469.00 Texel Ext Complete - $569.00
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare - $389.00 Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$489.00
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit - $195.00 Mitsumi w/Sound Card - $325.00
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. / Windows v1. $50. ALL ChestNuts CD's $10.00ec
ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
... Who Killed Superman?
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2162
To: ALL Date: 09/01/93 1:44a
Subj: NEW CDROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
)))))))))))))))))))))) H O T N E W C D ' S ((((((((((((((((((((((
Dr. Music - Music Editors, MOD, MIDI, ROL, SND, VOC, WAV and more!
Dr. Shareware - 615 megs of shareware programs and utilities!
Dr. Games - 600+ megs of Adventure, Arcade, Card, Sports and more!
Dr. Windows - 3,440 files of window programs and utilities!
All BBS READY !!
Price - $59.00 for all 4 or $20.00ec
ORDER LINE ONLY - 800-243-0517 - TECH - 216-225-3263 - FAX - 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
... Oh never mind!
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From: ROB MCINTYRE Number: 2163
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/31/93 12:38p
Subj: CD LIQUIDATION! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RM>Oh... Pity.
MS> Huh?
That was a reply to the inquiry on the "Jedi Collection".
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 2164
To: ED FEINS Date: 08/31/93 11:15a
Subj: Re: CD CADDIES FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
EF> I have EIGHT CD-CADDIES for sale.
EF>
EF> $25.00 - shipping INCLUDED in USA
If they're still unsold when you get this, send them COD to me at: 1720
Bowline Road, Houston, TX 77062-4536. I can be reached at (713)
488-0065 6-9 p.m. CDT for confirmation if you like.
... MONEY TALKS ... but all mine ever says is GOODBYE!
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From: BRYAN BRANAM Number: 2165
To: DAVID NGHIEM Date: 08/31/93 7:40a
Subj: pioneer 600] Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I plan on buying a pioneer 600 changer for use for my BBS. But I am
-> wondering that if I had six cd's on the drive at once, would they sho
-> up as 6 drives? Or do I have to alternate the cd's constantly? I ho
-> this is a software automated process. I would hate to buy six cd's,
-> them on the system only to find out that I have to manually change a
-> when a user wants to look at another one. If anyone can help in usin
-> the pioneer for the BBS, thanks!!!!
->
According to the information I got from Pioneer .. The driver assigns a
drive letter to each disc and when you access that drive letter it
changes to that disc (so you have 6 drives) .. Or you can assign it as
one big drive (if your software can handle it) and use the disc lables
as a refrence.
====> Bryan
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From: DAN GULKIS Number: 2166
To: DAVID NGHIEM Date: 08/31/93 9:17a
Subj: pioneer 600] Refer: NONE
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DN>wondering that if I had six cd's on the drive at once, would they show
DN>up as 6 drives? Or do I have to alternate the cd's constantly? I hope
DN>this is a software automated process.
It's completely automatic. Each disk shows up as a different drive
letter. When you access a file on a specific drive letter, it switches
to that disk.
If you have a multiline system, it is highly recommended that you copy
files from the CDROM to the hard disk before starting downloads. If you
run WildCat (since you're running WildMail...), there is a switch in the
Makewild settings to do that. Some of the CDROM doors also let you do
that. If you don't, and two callers are downloading from different
disks, it will continuously shuffle between the two disks, and disk
switches aren't very fast.
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN Number: 2167
To: ALL Date: 08/30/93 11:15p
Subj: GREAT SERVICE AND VALUE Refer: NONE
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Canada's CD-ROM Source is...
CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA
6 Armstrong Bay * Regina, Sk. S4N 4G7
306-789-4654 Voice * 306-789-8690 Fax
VISA/MC/MO/Cheque Accepted
New titles weekly! Call for current specials!
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From: RACHEL REPSTAD Number: 2168
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 08/31/93 6:56p
Subj: games Refer: NONE
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Hey! I really want Space Quest 5. I like the space quest series but I think my
favorite series would be the Police Quest Series. I beaten 1, 2, and 3 and I
can't wait to number 4. Sqace Quest 3 is my favorite out of the space Quest
series. I have CD-ROM drive but that is on the BBS so I can't use it for games.
The BBS is networked but it is incredibly slow through the network. My Dad says
he's gonna get panasonic but I don't know when that will be. Have you played
the Wolf 3D games? They are incredible! I've beaten games 1-6 on Wolf but I
haven beat any of the games in Spear of Destiny. Now Doom is supposed to come
out soon and I can't wait to get that! Also Biomenace is pretty good but I beat
it the same day I got it. Well gotta go. L8R. :)
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From: SHAUN RADER Number: 2169
To: RANDY MCANALLY Date: 08/30/93 2:43p
Subj: S3 video chip Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
<<***** RANDY MCANALLY wrote this on 08-28─93 {May be edited} *****>>
─>I have a Cirrus logic 1MB vesa local bus video card on my 486DX/33. Do
─>this video card have a S3 chip in it? The docs claim windows
─>acceleration. I ran a vga video test and the docs said a 10-12 frame p
─>second video redraw in dos is average. It measured 88.1 frames per
─>second om mine!!! I can't see how there could be a problem with
─>slowness. I really want 7th guest and don't want stupid incompatabilit
I'm not sure if that card has an S3 chip (probably does, because most
Windows accelerators seem to have it), but even if it does.. The 7th
Guest should work. I have a Diamond Stealth 24 (ISA) and it has the S3
chip. I only get 2% on the video test, but it runs pretty good.
The video looks fine, but when you move from room to room, you will see
the video is a little choppy. It's not TOO bad, but you can see the
screen redrawing.
-Shaun Rader-
-Madman@Liberty.Com-
08/30/93 10:53
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From: ED YEE Number: 2170
To: SUNNY LEUNG Date: 08/31/93 8:35p
Subj: Writable CD-ROM's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SL> Can you produce your own CD's?
Sure, if you had a WORM, DRAW, or a ReMOD drives.
SL> Suppose you wrote some files on a CD-ROM. Is it
SL> possible to add more files
SL> to the CD?
Look above.
SL> Can you erase a CD and reuse it?
Not with WORM nor DRAW, but yes on ReMOD with ReMOD disks.
SL> What's the difference between a CD and a optical
SL> disk (and what's a WORM
SL> drive)?
An optical disk, in most cases, can be written to several times. a Normal CD
has info, burned into the metal platter, so you can't change it without
destroying everything.
Ooppss:
WORM - Write Once Read-only Memory
DRAW - Direct Read After Write (same as WORM)
ReMOD - Re-writable Magneto Opitcal Disk
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 2171
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 08/31/93 7:18a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM INTERFACES Refer: NONE
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LR> The Always card is in no way superior to the
GP> Adaptec line. In the LR>first place, the IN-2000 only comes as an ISA
card, no
GP> MCA or EISA support.
GP> Why would anybody care about MCA? That's dead. Even IBM has started
GP> using ISA again. EISA is virtually dead, too. I'm not convinced that
GP> there's much value in a company that encourages users to buy future
GP> orphans.
ISA is a lot deader than MCA or EISA, it just doesn't know it, yet. It
was a lousy standard at the outset, and now is not only lousy, but moth eaten.
LR>do believe it is an ISA busmaster, but on an ISA
GP> system, only one busmaster LR>allowed, so one cannot utilize any other
busmasters
GP> with an IN-2000. Also,
GP> Big deal there too... what other busmasters would you NEED to use, other
GP> than the disk controller board? What other ISA busmasters ARE there,
GP> even?
XGA and S3 video, I/O Multiport, Ethernet, secondary or higher SCSI
boards, video capture boards, dozens of different real-time capture boards, WWV
boards, answering machine boards... shall I go on? I'm running three
busmasters (obviously *NOT* ISA busmasters) and a slave in this machine.
LR>Also, Always has refused to produce OS/2 drivers for
GP> their card, while Adapt
GP> Again, I'm not sure that's a bad thing. A company can waste a lot of
GP> money chasing after all the latest fads, and it's the user that
GP> ultimately foots that bill.
Of course the user foots the bill, but OS/2 is hardly a fad. It is the
OS that we SHOULD have had 10 years ago.
LR>is supported right out of the OS/2 box.
GP> Then you ought to criticize OS/2 for not including support for the
GP> IN-2000, since it is evidently IBM that ought to be providing the
GP> support for the Always board, rather than the opposite.
Hardly. Always did not bother to work with IBM to produce drivers in
time for the release of OS/2. If they had, IBM would have supplied support for
them right out of the box, as well. OF course, one can use the generic INT13
drivers with the IN-2000, but that is like dragging a dead horse around the
track, rather than buying a live one.
LR>I am running an Adaptec 1742 EISA
LR>busmaster SCSI HA under OS/2 2.1, and it runs wild circles around the
LR>IN-200
GP> And you are suggesting, maybe, that they cost the same? :-))
Nope. The 1742 is a GREAT deal cheaper. My time is valuable, and the
$100 difference between the ISA board and the EISA board is re-captured in very
short order, indeed.
Once again, this is off-topic. If you wish to continue, why don't you
come over to the OS2HW echo?
Les
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From: TIM BROWN Number: 2172
To: ALL Date: 08/31/93 5:10p
Subj: The 7th Guest.. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello all! I have The 7th Guest for CD ROM and just currently had to
re-fromat my hard drive... &th Guest was working before the HD crasg,
but a few months after it,.. I tried to play it and at the cake puzzle I
click on a cake peice and it exsits yo dos saying something like
"This is not a VDX file".. can anyone help me?
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From: KEN BACHMAN @ 930/1 Number: 2173
To: SHAUN RADER Date: 08/31/93 6:49p
Subj: Re: Games Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Well if you like the talking games for CD's. Try LOOM it also talks
instead of having to read the text. The Adventure of Willy Beamish is
another one, but so far I have not been as impressed with it as I was
with LOOM, just not have spent that much time with it at this point.
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From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 2174
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 08/30/93 1:20p
Subj: Cd-Rom Help Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> LG> Creative labs have already made a deal with panasonic they've
-> already LG>released (amazing drive amazing price!) the panasonic
-> CR-562B check out LG>the specs 320ms access time, 300kb/sec transfer
-> speed, 64k cache (helps LG>a lot!), powered tray with eject button,
-> THE ONLY device that can be LG>plugged onto the sound blaster pro or
-> sound blaster 16,
->
-> Yes, and THERE, RIGHT THERE, is the big GOTCHA. I wouldn't even
-> consider buying that drive, no matter how attractive it is for any
-> other reason, if I am arbitrarily and forever chained to a
-> SoundBlaster Pro or 16 sound card in order to be able to use the
-> CD-ROM drive. Why? Well, let's say that in 12 months somebody
-> (Gravis, or somebody else) introduces a hot new sound card that makes
-> everything else obsolete overnight. In your case, you're shafted,
-> 'cuz you can't get rid of your now-obsolete SoundBlaster card without
-> losing your CD-ROM drive too.
What new improvements can they make to 16bit cd audio quality sound?
They haven't yet upgraded the cd audio players to do more than 16 bits
themselves. How come you're saying i'd be shafted? I don't think you
even know anything about the panasonic drives and probably think you
know everything about it. So if I sell off the sound blaster 16 i can
still plug the cdrom on the ATBUS interface card.
-> Right. Why does that make them "not as good"? Again, what reason is
-> there to have to chain your CD-ROM leg to your sound board?
Save myself 1 slot for other important things.
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From: RON FINDLING Number: 2175
To: LOUIS GHINIS Date: 08/27/93 9:14p
Subj: CD-ROM vs. disk versions Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>What I don't like about sierra is they charge the cd version the exact
>same price as the disk version when their making more profit on the cd
>version instead of the disk version...
(details given)
Presumably though if they ARE adding scenes to the CD version not in
the disk version, that costs money for them to do, and they should
be allowed to charge extra because of that. ...And more than one might
think, since the market for the CD version is considerably smaller than
the disk version...
But a lot depends on whether those extra parts are WORTH the extra
money...
___
X SLMR 2.1a X Coming soon to a mirage near you: Windows 4.0
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From: JOHN CHESNEY Number: 2176
To: ANDRE QUEREE Date: 08/31/93 7:20p
Subj: q Refer: NONE
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>>
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From: MTRAFFIC Number: 2177
To: ALL Date: 09/01/93 3:39a
Subj: Traffic Report! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
*********************************************************************
* Birdsoft Poster Record for Area: CDROM *
* Messages received by Unregistered (1:3600/7) *
* Sun, Aug 1, 1993 - Tue, Aug 31, 1993 *
*********************************************************************
Posts Name Average Size Address
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
87 Boris Osadciw 151 1:157/46
78 Rowan Evans 476 3:711/413
62 HENRY PAUL 1000 1:138/173
32 Mike Shannon 1063 1:3407/101
28 Giuliano Maciocci Jr. 1108 5:7211/1.78
28 Leslie Rhorer 1544 1:387/800.4
27 Janusz Surowka 433 1:142/212
26 Carlos Benitz 974 1:125/17
25 Poe Lim 956 3:623/630
23 Jim Lambert 939 1:18/10
23 Wee Yung 1092 1:102/138
22 Brice Fleckenstein 688 1:231/190
22 Steve Pesant 1047 1:153/7070
21 Doug Carpenter 685 1:362/119
21 Bob Jackson 703 1:106/30.0
20 Ismail Arslangiray 571 1:138/116
18 David Calvin 831 1:2606/583
17 Bob Hall 754 1:147/34
17 Ashwin Bihari 700 1:324/123
15 Michael Mulcahy 781 1:109/70.986
15 Shaun Rader 1191 1:218/101
15 Diana Kirksey 802 1:208/401
14 Michael Geggus 1340 6:731/18.0
14 Chris Johnson 1382 1:130/801.2
14 Randy Mcanally 552 1:202/1513.0
13 Roy Cochrun 843 1:261/1116
13 Guilherme Moura 576 4:808/16
12 Richard Nixon 893 1:125/665.0
12 Terry Blount 869 1:3625/441
12 Andrew Barfoot 1136 3:633/362
12 Dave Clark 1065 1:18/2
12 Gordon Peterson 1115 2:320/203
12 Jerry Murphy 2024 1:157/3
11 Danny Tong 873 1:125/217.0
11 David M. White 587 1:300/2
11 Mark Womack 1128 1:3660/801.0
11 Ed Yee 927 1:134/134
11 Sam Jones 929 1:396/27
11 Don Rieb 976 1:115/724
10 Martin Taylor 946 3:632/335
10 Jurrie Hobers 1016 2:512/183.0
10 Louis Ghinis 1217 1:229/15
10 Michael Konor 675 1:373/8.0
10 Don Kulha 1443 1:125/7
10 Steve Gerweck 564 1:2380/120.0
10 Laurie Batt 827 3:640/531.2
(truncated for brevity)
Total = 2274 by 676 authors.
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From: TONY STOTT Number: 2178
To: GREG DUFFUS Date: 08/31/93 7:43a
Subj: Wrong Echo Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 08-25-93, Greg Duffus elucidated to Rafal Trojanowski:
GD>Hey Raf man, I thought I'd just let you know that you have a couple of
GD>assignments due next Friday. Seeya.....
I sure hope the topic is not "Using the correct Fidonet echo for private
messages"
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2179
To: POE LIM Date: 08/31/93 5:20p
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
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Hi Poe!
On 08-29-93 Poe Lim wrote to Rowan Evans...
PL> On Aug 23 20:44 in a msg to Poe Lim, Rowan Evans of 3:711/413 wrote:
PL>
PL> > caddies than it is for the average user.... Most users I know of
PL> > with caddy type drives can only afford one caddy... and they are
PL> > amazed and impressed by the Panasonic....
PL>
PL> The cheapest caddies I've bought (and this is cheaper than
PL> what a dealer I know can get them for) was via this echo,
PL> from a local contact (take a bow, Tony S. :).
Whilst I have seen ads for caddies for $A5.00, and some companies offering
"free" caddies if you buy x number of CD-ROMs at a time, the average
price for a single caddy for the casual user appears to be about $A15.00.
Now, you and I haunt this echo and can grab a deal with a cheap CD-ROM
caddy, etc, but a lot of the users I talk to place BBSes and modems in
the voodoo/black magic category, and even telling them to "call so & so"
doesn't have much impact....
PL> It can be a hassle when you have to handle multiple CD to
PL> take them out of their cases; easier just to keep them in
PL> caddies, and slip them in as required.
Well, I operate on "open CD-ROM, extract old ROM, place in case, open
new ROM case, place on tray, close tray".... Simple, foolproof process...
No hassles!
Of course it was interesting the one time I accidently inserted a second
ROM without checking that the drive was empty!
PL> As to the cost, I calculate it as a percentage of the cost
PL> of the ROMs; most of the time they come to less than 10% of
PL> the cost, which is acceptable for the protection thus gained.
Well, some of the shareware CD-ROMs (Simtel, CICA Windows) are available
for $A20.00 or so... even a $A5.00 impost is 25% of the cost of the ROM.
And if, as I said before, you were a casual user with an average caddy
price of $A15.00, this makes it rather expensive....
BTW, if you have an audio CD player, is it a caddy type or a tray type??
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2180
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 08/31/93 5:33p
Subj: Re: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
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Hi Les!
On 08-29-93 Leslie Rhorer wrote to Rowan Evans...
LR> PL> The main advantage of a caddy system (IMHO) is when you frequently
LR> PL> swap disks; much easier having them in caddies, and merely shove
LR>
LR> PL> them in, then having to fiddle around with the case. You
LR> PL> can also leave a few of them around and not worry about scratches.
LR>
LR> RE> You're a dealer aren't you Poe?? Its probably cheaper for you to get
LR> RE> caddies than it is for the average user....
LR>
LR> Perhaps. Margins are pretty slim on that sort of thing.
Current Aussie prices (retail, not special deals, etc) for a single caddy
is around $A15.00 to $A20.00. This is the price if you walk into any
computer store that stocks them and ask to buy a caddy.....
Some deals I have seen advertised have caddies for $A5.00..... This is
*NOT* what I would call a slender margin!
LR> RE> Most users I know of with caddy type drives can only afford one
LR> RE> caddy
LR>
LR> Oh, get REAL! Caddies are about $4 each in packs
LR> of 5. If one cannot afford $43 for a caddy, how can one
^^ Oops ??? <g>
LR> afford $25-$100 for the software and $250 for the drive?
I believe that the viewpoint is a realistic one.... Especially when you
talk to a user that says that he will have 1500 odd machines with CD-ROM
drives in them... Having 2 or 3 CD-ROMs in separate caddies adds (at
best $A15.00 - cheapest price I've seen for caddies is $A5.00) then
multiply this by 1500, comes to $A22,500.00 additional.... the worst
case makes this figure around $A70,000.00..... these are not
insubstantial amounts to do what you recommend....
And we then come back to the fact that show an "average" user a CD-ROM
drive with a caddy and a CD-ROM drive without a caddy and the user will,
9 times out of 10 select the non-caddy drive.....
My own personal loathing for caddies dates back to 1989 and a CD-ROM
drive (I think it was a Philips) with a "claw" type caddy that, although
it looked universal was a "this side up" type caddy.... The trauma that
this drive inflicted was such that I vowed *NEVER* to buy a CD-ROM
drive with a caddy....
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2181
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 08/31/93 5:36p
Subj: New Mpc Specs Refer: NONE
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Hi Gordon!
On 08-24-93 Gordon Peterson wrote to Rowan Evans...
GP> RE> For info, the Multimedia council has released the MPC level 2 spec
GP> RE> and I have listed it below :-
GP>
GP> I urge EVERYONE to boycott this garbage. A standard isn't a standard
GP> if the people making the hardware and software can continue to "raise
GP> the bar" by increasing the hardware required every six to twelve months.
GP> Why go to the trouble of meeting a standard, if six months later you
GP> find that you're still screwed? :-((
You have a valid viewpoint.....
I thought it interesting from the fact that it shows the direction that
the marketing board is pushing the market and for anyone contemplating
purchase of a new machine, if they were considering CD-ROM or MPC, that
the double speed drive was (from this spec) almost a mandatory item...
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2182
To: LOUIS GHINIS Date: 08/31/93 6:02p
Subj: panasonic Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Louis!
On 08-28-93 Louis Ghinis wrote to Geoff Moehle...
LG> mistaken panasonic is 320ms access time not 350. As for the top brand
LG> drives that are 200ms if you compare the speed its only 33% faster
LG> which ain't that noticable. The access time represents the worst time
LG> it takes to move the laser beam across the disc.
The spex I have for the Panasonic CR562B state 320ms *AVERAGE* access in
single speed mode and 450ms *AVERAGE* access in double speed mode... The
drive does, however seem to be able to perofrm better than these
specifications.
And the average access time is the average time it takes for a file to
be accessed.... What you have described is the "full stroke access" time...
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2183
To: LOUIS GHINIS Date: 08/31/93 6:04p
Subj: cr562, 563, info wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi again Louis!
On 08-28-93 Louis Ghinis wrote to Don Bosman...
LG> -> Can two or more 562's be daisy chained on the SB Pro 16?
LG>
LG> The answer to that is no
Sorry, but the answer is *YES* and I *HAVE* done it!
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2184
To: ANDREW SEE Date: 08/31/93 6:10p
Subj: Police Quest 4 (CD-ROM) Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Andrew!
On 08-26-93 Andrew See wrote to HENRY PAUL...
AS> HP>I also want to get the CD version of the Wing Commander series.
AS>
AS> It is the same as the Disk version.
No its not! It doesn't gobble up 25Mb of my hard drive like the diskette
version did!
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2185
To: DOUG SCHWANTES Date: 08/31/93 6:14p
Subj: CD-ROM disk cache Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Doug!
On 08-26-93 Doug Schwantes wrote to All...
DS> Does anyone out there know of a good disk cache for a CD-ROM?
Norton SpeedCache+ works for me!
However, any CD-ROM cache will only be active when you perform multiple
reads of the same data... it won't help to speed up loading a program
from the CD-ROM.....
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2186
To: TOM ARRUDA Date: 08/31/93 6:20p
Subj: Need Number Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Tom!
On 08-29-93 Tom Arruda wrote to All...
TA> I have recently purchased a CR-562B drive from MPS. I am running from
..[edited]..
TA> both lock up and halt the entire system. I am using a 486dx33 with
TA> 8megs of ram ,DOS 6.0, MSCDEX 2.2,Qemm7.0, Norton SpeedCache 4.0.
TA> I need the number for Creative Labs BBS.
TA> Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.
Sorry can't help with the US C/L BBS no, but your system is pretty close
to mine (main differences DX2/66, DOS 5.0 and MSCDEX 2.1).... and I have
*ABSOLUTELY* no problems with my setup under windows...
Suggestion #1 :- Is your QEMM Version 7.01??
Suggestion #2 :- Post your CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT and I'll compare
to mine for further suggestions!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2187
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 08/31/93 6:28p
Subj: Cd-Rom Help Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Gordon!
On 08-23-93 Gordon Peterson wrote to Louis Ghinis...
GP> Yes, and THERE, RIGHT THERE, is the big GOTCHA. I wouldn't even
GP> consider buying that drive, no matter how attractive it is for any
GP> other reason, if I am arbitrarily and forever chained to a
GP> SoundBlaster Pro or 16 sound card in order to be able to use the
GP> CD-ROM drive.
What about if we used fur lined handcuffs?? <g>
Seriously, the CR562B I purchased came with an 8-bit paddle card... Worked
fine, but I wanted to save the slot, so I connected to the SB16 ASP....
Interesting point, the CR562B has, on all the benchmarking I've done, an
affinity for the SB cards in that it *SPEEDS UP* when attached to one...
Maybe its the 16bit connector of the SB card, I don't know (and I can't
find a 16 bit paddle card!)....
GP> Why? Well, let's say that in 12 months somebody (Gravis, or somebody
GP> else) introduces a hot new sound card that makes everything else
GP> obsolete overnight. In your case, you're shafted, 'cuz you can't get
GP> rid of your now-obsolete SoundBlaster card without losing your CD-ROM
GP> drive too.
Nope, just stick the 8-bit paddle card back in and lose a slot! In fact
I'm thinking of using a PAS16 with the next CR562B as it doesn't have the
annoying sound dropouts in the speech of T7G!
GP> It might be another thing if there were some super-significant synergy
GP> to be gained by tieing them together like that, but as far as I can
GP> see there isn't. It's merely a bundled interface, and that's all. If I
GP> was that desperately in need of I/O slots in my machine, I'd probably go
GP> looking elsewhere to gain one. Sorry, it just sounds like a bad
GP> bargain to me.
The synergy *IS* there.....
GP> I'm not saying that the Panasonic drive isn't a good value for what it
GP> is, but the negative of having to chain yourself to a SoundBlaster
GP> brand sound card in order to be able to hook it up is thoroughly
GP> repugnant, to me at least.
OK, so you'll buy one and tie yourself to the 8-bit interface?? <g>
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2188
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 08/31/93 6:32p
Subj: Cd-Rom Interfaces Refer: NONE
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Hi Again Gordon!
On 08-23-93 Gordon Peterson wrote to Leslie Rhorer...
GP> LR> do believe it is an ISA busmaster, but on an ISA system, only one
GP> LR> busmaster allowed, so one cannot utilize any other busmasters with
GP> LR> an IN-2000. Also,
GP>
GP> Big deal there too... what other busmasters would you NEED to use,
GP> other than the disk controller board? What other ISA busmasters ARE
GP> there, even?
FYI, Network Interface Cards. Specifically Madge Token Ring! Also a
niche-market SDLC adapter from NCR!
GP> LR>Also, Always has refused to produce OS/2 drivers for
GP> LR>their card, while Adapt
GP>
GP> Again, I'm not sure that's a bad thing. A company can waste a lot of
GP> money chasing after all the latest fads, and it's the user that
GP> ultimately foots that bill.
GP>
GP> LR>is supported right out of the OS/2 box.
GP>
GP> Then you ought to criticize OS/2 for not including support for the
GP> IN-2000, since it is evidently IBM that ought to be providing the
GP> support for the Always board, rather than the opposite.
Maybe IBM thought that Allways were a bit player in the market, just
like OS/2 is!
Cheers!
o
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From: LAURIE BATT Number: 2189
To: LOUIS GHINIS Date: 08/30/93 7:24a
Subj: cr562, 563, info wanted Refer: NONE
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* On Aug 28 14:55 Louis Ghinis quoth this to Don Bosman
LG> still be allowed to connect the cdrom directly to the sound
LG> blaster 16 without the need of the interface card.
->> Can two or more 562's be daisy chained on the SB Pro 16?
LG> The answer to that is no
This is not true.
You can connect two CDROM drives to both the SB16 and The SBPRO.
At least one of them must have drive selector jumpers (which I believe the 562
does).
Laurie
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From: DAVID WINGER Number: 2190
To: SUNNY LEUNG Date: 08/31/93 6:23p
Subj: Writable CD-ROM's Refer: NONE
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On 08-27-93 Sunny Leung wrote to All...
SL> Hello everybody.
SL>
SL> While doing a case study for my Systems Analysis and Design course,
SL> I came upon several problems involving CD-ROM's.
SL>
SL> Can you produce your own CD's?
Yes, but you need a WORM drive for that.
SL> Suppose you wrote some files on a CD-ROM. Is it possible to add more
SL> files
SL> to the CD?
NO!
SL> Can you erase a CD and reuse it?
NO!
SL> What's the difference between a CD and a optical disk (and what's a
SL> WORM drive?
A CD uses a laser beam to read the information of the disk, an optical disk is
the same as a floppy disk except that it uses a laser to keep the heads aligned
with the disk, because the tracks on the disk are so fine.
WORM stands for Write Once Read Many.
A WORM drive can write to a CD, but only once.
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From: DAVID WINGER Number: 2191
To: ALL Date: 08/31/93 6:39p
Subj: New Cd-Rom Refer: NONE
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Does anyone out there want to buy a brand new still in the box
Panasonic CR-562-B double speed CD-ROM drive for $480.
It includes the controller card & all the cables.
I was given two for my birthday.
The other one works great.
Please reply ASAP if you are intersted.
Reply via this echo or phone David on 070 559378.
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From: SAM JONES Number: 2192
To: ALL Date: 09/01/93 11:40a
Subj: Photo CD Software Refer: NONE
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I have a Panasonic 562-b CD-ROM drive and I would like to know what
software is available in order to let me view Kodak Photo CD's. Is there a
shareware prgram avaiable? I have seen one prgram (by Kodak) but it was a DOS
program and my video card (SSPro VL) was not supported so I guess that I wold
not be able to get the 16 mill. color mode so a Windows version would be nice,
is there a Windows version, and how much is it?
Thanks, Sam
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From: KEVIN SULLIVAN Number: 2193
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 08/30/93 12:55p
Subj: Re: Cd-rom help! Refer: NONE
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HP>I saw a guy in HS modems even that said he had a 12000 modem, I think
HP>he meant 1200.
Some cruddy v.32bis modems were only able to connect at 12000, so they
started calling em turbos. He might of had one, poor guy.
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From: MICHAEL GEGGUS Number: 2194
To: GEOFF MOEHLE Date: 08/28/93 8:42a
Subj: Re: help! Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Geoff Moehle to All <=-
GM> Hey man write me a letter or something..im being ignored...where do i
GM> get fast access time and a 300kb/second transfer rate?...but at a good
GM> price!!!!!!im maybe interested in a Texel!! Well what do you...the
Look for the Panasonic 562b for $249 to $279 if you have the SB Pro. If not
look for the new Creative Labs MM bundle with the panasonic 563 both drives
are spec'd for MPC level 2, double-speed at a great price.
... What do you mean? You actually read this Tagline?!?
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From: NORMAN HAVENS Number: 2195
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/01/93 1:20a
Subj: Mitsumi Refer: NONE
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GP-_-capitalize on people's ignorance, and the desire for mystique. Anyone
GP-_-who understands the slightest bit about how things like CD-ROM work can
GP-_-understand that such "enhancement" products cannot POSSIBLY improve
GP-_-their sound (or any other aspect).
Don't tell that to the Japanese magazines (or their readerships)
that do serious (?) "listening tests" to determine things like
the difference between single and double speaker cables, or the
"subtle difference in sound quality" they convince themselves
appears when a CD player is used with one of those stabilizers.
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From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 2196
To: GRAHAM MURPHY Date: 08/26/93 4:32a
Subj: Re: New Mpc Specs Refer: NONE
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To: Graham
By: Giuliano Maciocci Jr. (maciocci2@mango.apc.org)
On: Thursday August 26 1993 at 04:32
Hi Graham!
Tuesday August 17 1993, Graham Murphy told Giuliano Maciocci Jr.:
GM> The 486series has an INTERNAL cache to the processor, and this is
GM> highly optimized (and V fast). the cache you are talking about is
GM> *EXTERNAL* to the chip, and not as fast.
Thanks.
GM> Graham.
GM> Apologize for being off topic.
Yeah, me too...
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From: IAN DOW Number: 2197
To: ALL Date: 08/27/93 8:47a
Subj: Modems Refer: NONE
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To: All
By: Dow@mango.apc.org (Ian Dow)
On: Friday August 27 1993 at 06:26
My apologies for this not being a CD-ROM topic :
At the beginning of this year I obtained a comms/fax modem made by a company
called Dallas Fax, in Texas.
It is an internal V.42bis model 9696V.
It came with Quick Link 2 software ( which is a combined comms/fax program )
I have considerable difficulty getting this modem to operate satisfactorily.
I have tried other software, but with limited success.
I have tried to contact the makers in Dallas, but have been informed by the
phone company operator that they have moved, and cannot be traced.
Does anyone know of the location of this company, or the location of an agent
of Dallas Fax ??
Does anyone have experience of using this make of modem ??
If so, would you let me have your voice line number
Regards,
Ian.
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From: IAN DOW Number: 2198
To: ALL Date: 08/27/93 8:48a
Subj: FastLynx program Refer: NONE
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To: All
By: Dow@mango.apc.org (Ian Dow)
On: Friday August 27 1993 at 06:40
My apologies for this not being a CD-ROM topic.
Here in Zimbabwe, I currently use an old version of FastLynx.
I believe that ver. 4.00 or later is available.
Can someone give me an address or phone/fax number of the company that produce
this program, or of an agent ??
Regards,
Ian.
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From: IAN DOW Number: 2199
To: ALL Date: 08/27/93 8:49a
Subj: Modems: wireless or radio Refer: NONE
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To: All
By: Dow@mango.apc.org (Ian Dow)
On: Friday August 27 1993 at 06:44
My apologies for this not being a CD-ROM topic.
I am interested in finding out information on radio packet switching modems.
Can anyone help ??
Regards,
Ian.
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From: IAN DOW Number: 2200
To: ALL Date: 08/27/93 8:50a
Subj: SVGA card with video/tv output Refer: NONE
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To: All
By: Dow@mango.apc.org (Ian Dow)
On: Friday August 27 1993 at 06:44
Apologies for this not being a CD-ROM topic !
I am interested in obtaining a SVGA card which has a RGB output to a TV or VCR.
Can anyone put me in contact with a supplier.
Regards,
Ian.
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From: WILLIAM STEVENSON Number: 2201
To: ALL Date: 08/27/93 10:17p
Subj: Kings Quest V & SB16ASP Refer: NONE
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Hi
I've just installed the SB 16 ASP, which works well (e.g. with 7th Guest).
But when I install King's Quest 5 (bought December 1992) with sound blaster
selected, I get a message 'can't initialize your music hardware'. However,
it does run and produce music if I select Adlib.
Is there a way to get KQ-V to drive the ASP?
William
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From: JUAN-PEDRO MINON Number: 2202
To: ALL,ALL,ALL,AAAALLLLLLL Date: 08/24/93 9:39p
Subj: CD-ROM WRITER Refer: NONE
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Hello, all.
I am looking for a CD-ROM writer (Kodak PCD Writer 200 or
Philips CDD 521/10).
Please reply to me with price, capatibilites, software and
specifications.
Thanks,
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From: JUAN-PEDRO MINON Number: 2203
To: JORGE GUTIERREZ Date: 08/24/93 9:46p
Subj: Contactar Refer: NONE
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Hola Jorge.
Me llamo Juan Pedro Minon y te escribo para ver si me puedes ayudar.
Te he elegido a tí principalmente por que teòricamente tienes que hablar
espa|ol y podremos, o por lo menos yo, entendernos mejor.
Y ahora al caso. Estoy buscando lo que por aquí se conoce como
un BROKER, es decir , una persona que localiza material informático para
otra en nombre de una empresa, a cambio de unos honorarios, sueldo,
porcentaje o cualquiera que sea la forma de pago por sus servicios.
Mis intereses están centrados básicamente en:
Placas madre.
Controladoras multi I/O.
Memorias de 1 Mb a 70 ns.
Discos Duros
Tarjetas gráficas
Unidades de CD-ROM
Software en CD-ROM (cualquiera que sea su función)
Actualmente me interesa obtener información y precios sobre una
unidad CD-ROM de lectura/escritura, como por ejemplo el modelo
KODAK PCD WRITER 200 o PHILIPS CDD-521/10 con todos sus accesorios
incluyendo el software.
Si puedes ayudarme podemos llegar a acuerdos, si no gracias por escucharme.
Nombre de mi empresa:
SIMULATOR SOFT INFORMATICA
Calle Callao de Lima 36, Bajo izquierda
Santa Cruz de Tenerife - C.P. 38002
ISLAS CANARIAS - ESPA\A
Teléfono: +34-22-291552
Un saludo
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From: ALAN WILLIAMS Number: 2204
To: SHARI GHARAVY Date: 08/27/93 2:40p
Subj: HI! Refer: NONE
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-> Hello! Um, just want to say hi and hope someone drops me a line. Shar
________________________________________________________________________
<g>
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From: DAVID TORIX Number: 2205
To: TOM ARRUDA Date: 08/31/93 2:26p
Subj: Need Number Refer: NONE
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TA>I have recently purchased a CR-562B drive from MPS. I am running from a
TA>Sound Blaster 16 card. I have had nothing but problems with the drive.
TA>It constantly causes "General Protection faults" when run in Windows. I
TA>have the "Seventh Guest" and "Day of the Tentacle" that run under dos,
TA>both lock up and halt the entire system. I am using a 486dx33 with 8megs
TA>of ram ,DOS 6.0, MSCDEX 2.2,Qemm7.0, Norton SpeedCache 4.0. I need the
TA>number for Creative Labs BBS. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.
According to May '93 boardwatch magazine list it is:
408-428-6660
dave
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From: DAVID TORIX Number: 2206
To: DALE KANEY Date: 08/31/93 2:26p
Subj: O.D.'s using Desktop Publ Refer: NONE
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DK>Are you aware of any O.D.'s using commercially available software for their
DK>desktop publishing of their office newsletter? I asked a consultant and
she
DK>gave me the names of two programs for about $600.-$700. They seemed to be
a
DK>lot more than I needed( rotating graphics,etc.) . I believe they were
DK>"Pagemaker" & QuarkXpress. Anyone have any other suggestion?
Check out Microsoft Publisher. Or even a good high end word processor
such as WOrd for Windows or Word Perfect. Publisher is a good low end
publishing package, and word processors like Winword have almost as many
features. I use Pub and Winword. A great combo.
Dave
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 2207
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 08/31/93 11:11p
Subj: Re: Cd-rom help! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Nope, I'm saying that OS/2 is a great OS that knows how to im
-> virtual memory properly. I have (at the moment) 16 Megs of physical
-> each and every DOS session, both VDM and VMB, can have up to 16 Megs
-> PLUS, 32 Megs of EMS PLUS, up to 736K of conventional and 200K or so
-> until I run out of hard drive space. (with an 800 Meg drive, that wi
-> while). Virtual memory is allocated dynamically, so even with many d
-> megs of memory allocated, hard drive swapping does not start until th
-> applications (not loaded but idle ones) actually exceed the physical
-> limit. At that point, the system will usually see a significant slo
-> although not necessarily an unacceptable one, short term.
-> Oh, and some 12,000bps modems WERE manufactured, although the
-> quickly overshadowed by 14,400 HST and v.32bis modems. However, this
-> drifted *WAY* off topic. If you wish to continue in this vein, why d
-> meet me on the OS2HW echo?
Oh, right! Sorry 'bout that :) I forgot about Virtual memory.. I didn't
know it worked with conventional & umb too! That's pretty neat!
TTYL,
Henry
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 2208
To: DOUG DAGGER Date: 08/31/93 11:13p
Subj: CD-ROM's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> how many bit is the matsumi?
Well, it has both 8bit and 16bit versions of its controller.
Mine showed 8bit on box but had 16bit in box! Lucky break on my end! :)
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 2209
To: ROBERT HAWORTH Date: 08/31/93 11:16p
Subj: New Roland Compat Sound C Refer: NONE
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-> It's not the turtle beach card which from memory isn't compatible wit
-> anything and isn't supported by much either. No this card is by some
-> previously unknown company who I think have been making SB clones for
-> primarily for the Asian and US markets. I can't remeber the name of t
-> but it had a picture of a paint tube on the outside of the box and wa
-> PowerSource stand at the Melbourne PC show. I don't know whether Powe
-> is the sole distributor but if they are they have offices in Sydney a
-> Melbourne. I'd be interested if the $600 price tag was just a show sp
-> the normal price. Its certainly cheap for a Roland SCC-1 card even wi
-> the extra compatiblity with MS Sound System and the SB. The support f
-> types of CD-ROM drives is good because you can go for the cheapest at
Okay, never heard of it... :) Thanks anyhow, just trying to stay on top
of things....
TTYL,
Henry
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN Number: 2210
To: ALL Date: 08/31/93 9:27p
Subj: CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi people!
We've got some great deals on some '93 CD-ROMs... these are
Overstock Liquidations at, near, or below cost while current
INSTOCK quanitities last! They are:
Cdn$ US$
ProPhone 1993 7-disc set 50 37
American Business Phonebook 25 19
Foxes 25 19
Busty Babes 25 19
Shareware Studio II 20 16
Night Owl 9 35 26
Erotic Encounters 35 26
Shareware Studio I Free with purchase of Night Owl 9
C ya soon!
.\\ichellea
306-789-4654
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From: JIM MOTLEY Number: 2211
To: ERIC ESKAM Date: 08/31/93 12:46a
Subj: Help with MSCDEX Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
EE>Anyone have a text file laying around that explains the switches for MSCDEX
EE>I would be most appriciative...
Eric if you are running Dos 6.0 just type help mscdex..<G> If not go to
the directory where it is located and type mscdex and it will show the
switches..
* SLMR 2.1a * This Tagline is Shareware, To register, send $20.00.....
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From: TOM GARCIA Number: 2212
To: ALL Date: 08/31/93 9:09p
Subj: Phil Murtell Refer: NONE
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If anyone out there has U.S. Phones on CD ROM would you be so kind as to check
on Phil Murtell for me. It's a madeup name (by his father) and as far as I know
there are no other Murtell's in America. (He may have moved back to Canada.) He
was in the US Army in 1955-56 but I lost track of him after that. Will be
watching the Echo. Gratefully yours, Tom Garcia in Tucson, AZ.
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From: JOHN PRITCHARD Number: 2213
To: ALL Date: 08/31/93 10:15p
Subj: OMNI CDROM Drive Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone have experiance with the OMNI CD-ROM drive from Creative Labs?
Particularly with a SoundBlaster 16.
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From: CHRIS CONKLIN Number: 2214
To: ALL Date: 08/31/93 8:49p
Subj: Best CD-ROM Prices! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
If you're looking for the best pricing on CD-ROM's, give C-3 Production
Systems a call. They will to their best to meet or beat anyone around. Best
time to catch someone is in the evenings between 5-10 pm CT. They are a home
run business which saves YOU from the overhead charges.
C-3 Production Systems
PO Box 60144
San Angelo, Tx
76906
915-944-7187 (evenings are best between 5-10 PM)
Yes, they ship internationally!
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From: JOE PATTERSON Number: 2215
To: ANYONE Date: 08/31/93 8:21a
Subj: HELP! Please Refer: NONE
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I just installed a Pioneer DRM604X on my system. I run MAX/P BINK/P SQUISH/P.
everything has worked great from the git go except my users can **NOT** freq
files from the CD-ROMS. I am using the *C:\max\maxfiles.idx in the BINK
OKfile.lst. All the files in my file areas on the HD are and do freq. Anyone
got any ideas as to what the problem might be? I have run "FBP"
Any help/suggestion appreciated. :{)
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From: JOE PATTERSON Number: 2216
To: DAVID NGHIEM Date: 08/31/93 8:47a
Subj: pioneer 600] Refer: NONE
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DN> I plan on buying a pioneer 600 changer for use for my BBS. But I am
DN> wondering that if I had six cd's on the drive at once, would they show
DN> up as 6 drives? Or do I have to alternate the cd's constantly? I hope
DN> this is a software automated process. I would hate to buy six cd's, put
David, each disk shows up as a separate drive eg: in my system the first cd is
drive F the second is G and so on thru K. When a user access a file area for
one of the drives the system changes to that drive. Works slick as a whistle
and is relativly fast, for a cd.
You will appreciate the performance of the drive.
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From: DARRELL DAVIS Number: 2217
To: LOUIS GHINIS Date: 09/01/93 10:20a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM BUNDLES Refer: NONE
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>-> I just ordered a Fusion 16 package with a 380 ms drive. I
>-> ordered it
>-> directly from Media Vision. Most of the retail stores seem to have
>-> older packages on the shelves. The package was $399 with $9
>-> shipping.
>
> That was a typo you said 800ms there ok that sounds right.
I don't understand what you are trying to say. Mine is not a typo. The
drive is a 380ms drive.
Darrell
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From: BOB SMITH Number: 2218
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/01/93 8:37a
Subj: COREL 3.0 IN MONTREAL Refer: NONE
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BS>Do you work with it? If so tell me... How would I make some business cards?
BS>A friend has Microsoft Publisher and says he does cards with it.. Which one
GP> I recently made (very successfully) a batch of business cards using
GP> cover stock (from the local student bookstore), my LaserJet 4L
GP> printer, and Microsoft Word for Windows. The TrueType fonts I used
GP> came from the Too Many Typefonts CD-ROM. You don't really need Corel.
Ahh..but since I'm not that familiar with your type of printer, is it a
color printer ? and as for using microsoft Word for Windows.. is that what
you used to create the business cards?
and the truetype fonts you used, from the Too Many Typefonts CD Rom is that
from Word for Windows? cause now that I have Corel I have enough fonts to drive
me crazy..
Regards
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From: EDDIE MAYO Number: 2219
To: DAVID NGHIEM Date: 08/31/93 7:39p
Subj: pioneer 600] Refer: NONE
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-> I plan on buying a pioneer 600 changer for use for my BBS. But I am
-> wondering that if I had six cd's on the drive at once, would they sho
-> up as 6 drives? Or do I have to alternate the cd's constantly? I ho
-> this is a software automated process. I would hate to buy six cd's,
-> them on the system only to find out that I have to manually change a
-> when a user wants to look at another one. If anyone can help in usin
-> the pioneer for the BBS, thanks!!!!
No problem! It is what you called `softaware automated'. I use the
Pioneer 600 on my BBS with 6 cd's. Works FLAWLESSLY!. It sees them a 6
different drives, swaps back and forth. LOVE IT!
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From: EDDIE MAYO Number: 2220
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/31/93 7:44p
Subj: Received shipment Refer: NONE
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Mike, I just wanted to let you know I received my shipment here in
FL in 3 days just as you advertise. Thank you for your quick
deliveries, my users are `rippin' them apart. :)
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From: CHARLES EVANS Number: 2221
To: RON HERRING Date: 09/01/93 6:06a
Subj: Dizit Refer: NONE
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Hi Ron, I just found DIZIT20 on the supercd. I guess i'll have to change the
name. Please take it offline for the moment. I'll upload new copy with revised
docs.
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 2222
To: DAVID WINGER Date: 09/01/93 9:04p
Subj: New Cd-Rom Refer: NONE
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> Does anyone out there want to buy a brand new still in
> the box
> Panasonic CR-562-B double speed CD-ROM drive for $480.
>
> It includes the controller card & all the cables.
> I was given two for my birthday.
> The other one works great.
> Please reply ASAP if you are intersted.
> Reply via this echo or phone David on 070 559378.
Well, don't have any cash but my Birthday just passed so if you like, my
address is: 411 Ninth St. Corpus Christi, Tx 78418 I think you sending that
drive would be the best Birthday gift I ever got, except for the cards my kids
have made for me!
Happy Birthday To Me and of course a Very
Special Happy Birthday To You!
Just another Nut In This
Crazy World, Pat
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2223
To: TONY D. BERRY Date: 08/31/93 5:03p
Subj: LOW QUALITY CDS???????? Refer: NONE
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>BF> My dislike of VGA Spectrum I is based solely on the redundant contents
>BF> (both archived AND non-archived versions of most of the stuff on it).
>You didn't like the selection of stuff they had, or you didn't like the fact
>that they had both archived AND unarchived stuff?
The latter - wasted a lot of space, as far as I was concerned.
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From: ED FEINS Number: 2224
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 09/01/93 9:08p
Subj: RE: CD CADDIES FOR SALE Refer: NONE
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Sorry ... No CODs. For $25 just send me a check to:
628 Exeter Road
Linden NJ 07036
First check gets them ... otherwise I'll send you back your check. COD fees
and problems just isn't worth selling them for me .....
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From: JAMES MUNRO Number: 2225
To: MICHAEL OUJESKY Date: 08/31/93 5:21p
Subj: Sony driver for OS2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MO> JM> Does any one know where I could get a driver for my
MO> SONY
MO> JM> CDU535 series. To enable me to run it with OS2 ver. 2.1.
MO> JM> Ihave to reboot dos all the time right now to run my
MO> CD.
MO> JM> thanks anyone who can help
MO>
MO> It was hatched into FWDRIVERS within the last couple of weeks.
MO> Check your local OS/2 BBS for it.
Thanks I'll watch out for it
bye
jim
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From: JAMES MUNRO Number: 2226
To: DAN POLIVY Date: 08/31/93 5:29p
Subj: Sony driver for os2 Refer: NONE
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Dan I got a message that its about to be released on the BBS's somewhere in the
OS2 file sections look out for FWDRIVERS.
bye jim
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From: SHAWN MAZZUTO Number: 2227
To: ALL Date: 09/01/93 8:11p
Subj: NEC CDR-84 Multi-Spin Refer: NONE
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Hello All!
Out of curiosity, would I need to buy another NEC CDR-84 CD-ROM for the BBS, or
can I get another NEC CD-ROM, but not as quick. This is so that I can use the
same drivers in my config.
Shawn
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2228
To: MANESH RAMA Date: 09/02/93 2:21a
Subj: Re: encyclopedia's Refer: NONE
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>> hello
>> i thank you for replying to my note
>> but i wuz just wondering if you trade
>> oh and is that the cd ver.
>> cause if so i have night owls cd
>> cause i just got robbed the other day
>> on monday so at the moment i cant
>> afford it but i can trade
>> thanx
>> i hope we can
Sorry to hear about your problem, but as for trades, we're not setup for
that at the moment! We are looking into the possability of such venture,
but as I stated, not at the current time.
Wish you luck....
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2229
To: DANNY BANISTER Date: 09/02/93 2:21a
Subj: Re: New Additions Refer: NONE
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>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ N E W A D D I T I O N S ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>LAN MASTER - 100mgs - 2255 files - Utilities, Programs, Text, & More!
>> Files.BBS Structure - PRICE - $29.
>> Boris, can you give some details about what's on this CD?
I think the above pretty much covers everything. In otherwords, anything
to do with Lan programs is on this cd. Although I have to agree, it's
only 100megs, it's a one of a kind and could be very useful to those
who operate such systems.
If you need further assistance, please feel free to drop us a note via
the node/net below or call us direct at 216-225-3263 and we'll be happy
to assist you further.
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2230
To: WILLIAM HERBERT Date: 09/02/93 2:21a
Subj: Re: WANTED Refer: NONE
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>> Wanted: Used Pioneer DRM 600a will pay up to 600$$ please
>> respond. Or you can reach me on my bbs aT 609 487 8321
>>
>> -)verbyte
We'll sell you a brand new one for $799. if that will help you.
Interested, please feel free to give us a call anytime 7 days a week
at 216-225-3263 and we'll be happy to assist you further.
Boris Osadciw
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From: THOMAS FITZGERALD Number: 2231
To: ANYONE! Date: 09/01/93 10:12p
Subj: Cd-Rom output. Refer: NONE
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Hey guys, I am having trouble with something......
On mys SB card, I have 1 output and 2 inouts (mic, midi.)
On my CD-Rom, I have two outputs, headphones, and line out (L,R,)
Now, hoe can I configure all this to work on a set of little amp speakers.
I realize that the line out jacks are only minimal voltage therefore can
really be heard with 8ohm connections, so how the hell do I get this to work
with only one set of speakers without having to buy the comuter type
ammplifier.
-Fitz
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From: JACK MEEHAN Number: 2232
To: ALL Date: 08/31/93 9:12p
Subj: Catalog Wanted Refer: NONE
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Please send CD-ROM catalog to:
Jack Meehan
6368 Briarcliff La.
Middleton WI 53562
Thank you
... OFFLINE 1.50 " Why did Kamakazi pilots wear helmets???"
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From: DON BOSMAN Number: 2233
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/01/93 2:05p
Subj: Re: Cdrom Systems Refer: NONE
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LR> BO>Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $799.00 Pioneer DMR604X Bare -$1199.
Thanks for the input.
LR> DB> they fit in a 5.25 in slot
LR> You're kidding, right? No, they don't fit in a 5.25" FH drive bay.
LR>Heck, the CARTRIDGES hardly fit in a 5.25" slot, let alone
The reason I asked if they would fit in a 5.25 slot was the ad for
"bare" drives. I wondered what they were meant for if not an internal
drive slot. I still wonder.
___
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From: TONY STOTT Number: 2234
To: MIKE AVILA Date: 09/01/93 7:40a
Subj: Oz Pricing Refer: NONE
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On 08-28-93, Mike Avila elucidated to Laurie Batt:
MA>-> MA> WOW! That is an outragous price.
MA>->
MA>-> You obviously didnt realise that Rowan and Joel are both in Austra
MA>-> $750 US dollars converts to about $1100 Ozzie Dollars,
MA>WOW! (Again<GRIN>)
MA>I feel for you people there. Buying CD equipment
MA>and discs (and all computer equipment?) must really set you back.
Don't feel too bad Mike, in general we get paid enough Oz dollars to
afford the goodies, and at the same time we get to live in the best
country! (big grin)
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From: TONY STOTT Number: 2235
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/01/93 7:40a
Subj: New Mpc Specs Refer: NONE
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On 08-24-93, Gordon Peterson elucidated to Rowan Evans:
GP>RE>For info, the Multimedia council has released the MPC level 2 spec
GP>and I have listed it below :-
GP>
GP>I urge EVERYONE to boycott this garbage. A standard isn't a standard
GP>the people making the hardware and software can continue to "raise the
GP>bar" by increasing the hardware required every six to twelve months.
GP>Why go to the trouble of meeting a standard, if six months later you
GP>find that you're still screwed? :-((
GP>
Sorry that you're upset Gordon, but until we can get full-motion
full-screen high resolution video with integrated hi-fi sound and
full-length movies on cd-rom, I think the standards are going to keep
moving upwards.
The real benefit of standards is that it allows authors of multimedia
titles to pick a level of equipment to aim at. Obviously, authors with
business sense will NOT exclude big sections of their potential market,
so they will pitch their product accordingly. Some other authors will
"push the envelope" because they believe their product will be attractive
enough to cause users to upgrade their equipment (7th Guest immediately
springs to mind..).
I would never recommend someone buys less than an MPC-2 standard computer
(in fact I'd aim a little higher in the memory and hard disk areas), but
that doesn't mean I'd sneer at someone who owns lesser equipment..
PS I'm not speaking from on high here, my sound card is only 8 bit, so my
own system misses out on MPC-2 standard. I'll get a better sound card once
software turns up to justify it...
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From: THOMAS BAKER Number: 2236
To: JOSH PICHE Date: 08/30/93 2:26p
Subj: CD-Rom kit Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
n
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From: SUNNY LEUNG Number: 2237
To: ALL Date: 09/02/93 5:41a
Subj: CD authoring Refer: NONE
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Hi everybody,
Does anyone here in Australia make CD's for business organisations?
By this I mean: a firm has a large database it wants to distribute to
its subsidiaries. CD-ROM would be an excellent way to achieve this. The
firm has the data to be transferred to CD.
Would anyone in Australia be willing to supply a price on such a service?
Are there any other requirements (e.g. firm's data to be stored on tape)?
Regards, Sunny.
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From: SEAN TUDOR Number: 2238
To: ALL Date: 09/01/93 7:54a
Subj: Panasonic CD drive Refer: NONE
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Hi all,
I have a Panasonic CR-562-B drive which came with two drivers -
SBCD.SYS and CDMKE41.SYS. Is there any difference between the drivers ?
At the moment I am using the SBCD.SYS driver with no problems.
Thanks for any info,
Sean.
... Jurassic Sparcs - the first computers with dinosaur power ...
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From: SEAN TUDOR Number: 2239
To: ALL Date: 09/01/93 7:57a
Subj: KQ5 & SQ4 CD's Refer: NONE
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Hi all,
I am using a Panasonic CR-562-B drive. It came with Kings Quest 5 and
Space Quest 4. KQ5 runs great with full speech but when I run SQ4 I
have to switch to text only because I am getting music but NO speech
whatsoever. Is there a bug in SQ4 or is there another problem ?
Has anyone else been able to run SQ4 with full speech ?
Thanks for any info,
Sean.
... Jurassic Sparcs - the first computers with dinosaur power ...
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From: LOONG CHUNG Number: 2240
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/31/93 7:37p
Subj: Re: Panasonic CDR-63 Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Rowan Evans to Loong Chung <=-
RE> Hi Loong!
RE>
RE> On 08-20-93 Loong Chung wrote to All...
LC> Could any one give me full details on the Panasonic CDR-563?
LC> e.g. Speed, transfer rate etc.
RE>
RE> Panasonic CR563 (as OEMmed to Creative Labs, normally CR562B)
RE>
RE> Transfer Rate 300 Kbps in double speed mode
RE> 150 Kbps in single speed mode
RE>
RE> Avg Acess 320ms in single speed mode
RE> 450ms in double speed mode
RE>
RE> Motorised tray for CD-ROM.
RE>
RE> JEDIC connector for external DAT output
RE>
RE> CD Audio output
RE>
RE> Panasonic (Creative Labs) AT bus....
RE>
LC> And how much is it in Australia?
RE>
RE> I bought mine from Osborne in Sydney for $A395.00 including cables
RE> and 8 bit interface....
RE>
RE> Cheers!
Hi Rowan
What is JEDIC connector for external DAT output? And does it
have any problem running animation of something like that? e.g. pauses,
jerky picture etc.
Can it be plug into a SB Pro v1. And does a 8bit interface card have
any difference to a 16bit interface card for connecting to the CDROM.
Is it faster?
Thanks
Loong
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From: SIMON COGGINS Number: 2241
To: ALASTAIR EDGINGTON Date: 08/29/93 7:03a
Subj: Os/2 And Soundblaster Pro 2.0 Cd-rom Driv Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Hiya,
> I've got OS/2 2.1, MultiMedia Program Manager with
> SoundBlaster Pro set up and
> working fine, but i can't get the SoundBlaster CD-ROM
> working!!
> I've tried inserting soundblaster's sbpcd.sys (or
> whateva it's called) in
> os/2's config.sys. This works fine, and the CD is
> accessed and all is fine. I
> just can't figure out where to get the cd-rom
> extensions driver from!! mscdex
> won't work. it comes up with incorrect dos version.
In the manual i received with my drive it told me to load SETVER.EXE if you
have a lower version of than MS-DOS6. So in you can run SETVER.EXE as you boot
up OS/2 it might work.. Or find a program that does the same thing..
Hope this helps..
Regards.
Simon
Simon's Place
Worldnet - 61:6800/140
Fidonet - 3:640/708
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From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 2242
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 09/01/93 12:35p
Subj: POLICE QUEST 4 (CD-ROM) Refer: NONE
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-> Why are you upset about a couple bucks? It takes about 1mil dollars
-> to create a game today, and about 2yrs. worth of labor!
-> The prices are VERY good!
yeah right it takes them 1 million dollars thats a bunch of bull. At
the most maybe 2 programmers and 2 graphic artists and at the most 1
music/fx artist so thats around $100-200 grand tops unless the employees
are sitting around doing barely nothing then it would cost 1 million
dollars. But it is true it does take them a year can tell by the length
-> As for the others, they are STILL $40-$50 mailorder! Only on this
-> board-echo have I seen any for under $20!
-> Sierra wants $25 plus shipping to upgrade if you have original disk
-> #1 or page of manual.
Still sierra is making more profit (per unit) off of the cd version
since a disc is much cheaper than 6-10 diskettes.
-> As for the others, they are STILL $40-$50 mailorder! Only on this
-> board-echo have I seen any for under $20!
I've seem sierra games going for almost $13 (close to $10) for the
olrder ones of course. Anyways atleast if you wait a year they drop
half in price to $20 instead of $40-50. Its just like the movie
industry pay $7 per person then the price chops in half or less when it
goes on video and only pay $2 for the whole family. Just that there
are a lot of good games out there and to buy them all is very expensive
atleast if you buy then 1 year older you can get twice as much as you
would of got when you bought them brand new.
Louis
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From: BRAD ORR Number: 2243
To: ALL Date: 08/31/93 3:52p
Subj: CD Rom Drive Sound Refer: NONE
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Hya.
I have a question about my CDROM drive. I have a Texel DM3401
( an internal double speed drive) and there is a headphone jack
on the front of the drive that I have _never_ been able to get sound
from using music cd's. What must I do to hear sound from this jack?
(I have a SB16 as well, and music cd's will play through it.)
On another note, when I play The Seventh Guest, during the Intro screen
when you start a new game, there is no music.
The book from the game says that I have to set up the drive for
PCM sound or somesuch thing. (I dont have the manual with me here)
how do i do this? Is my drive malfunctioning? I would really appriciate any
help that anyone could give me.
Thanks :)
brad
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From: RICHARD POUNCY Number: 2244
To: DOUG SCHWANTES Date: 09/01/93 9:28p
Subj: CD-ROM disk cache Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Doug Schwantes wrote in a message to All:
DS> Does anyone out there know of a good disk cache for a
DS> CD-ROM?
Try HyperDisk by HyperWare. So far it has been great.
Peace,
Richard
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From: NEIL BERGMAN Number: 2245
To: ALL Date: 08/30/93 11:24a
Subj: CD-ROMS-DISCOUNT PRICES! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SHORELINE CD-ROM'S DISCOUT PRICES
These are just a few examples of our low prices...We have over 300
titles in stock.
WING COMMANDER & ULTIMA VI $15.53
WORLD ATLAS (MPC OR DOS) $15.53
KODAK PHOTO CD $15.53
ANIMALS MPC (SAN DIEGO ZOO) $20.70
DAGGER OF AMON RA $32.78 TOO MANY MORE TO LIST!!!
KINGS QUEST V $16.74
LOOM $14.66 FOR A COMPLETE CATALOG, LEAVE
SUPER SHAREWARE/w/SUPER BBS $31.05 E-mail ADDRESS OR POSTAL
TERRORIST GROUP PROFILES (CIA) $31.91 ADDRESS!!!!
NIGHT OWL 9 $30.19
UP ALL NIGHT $18.11
***ADULT***
ASIAN LADIES $31.91 (BBS READY)
THINGS CHANGE:MY FIRST TIME $37.09 (XXX 80 MIN FULL MOTION VIDEO)
MOVING FANTASIES $19.85 (BBS READY)
VISUAL FANTASIES $19.85 (BBS READY)
VOLCANO $32.78 (BBS READY)
SOUTHERN BEAUTIES $31.91 (BBS READY)
STAREWARE $31.91 (BBS READY)
STORM I,II,III $22.38 (EACH!) BBS READY
HIDDEN OBSESSIONS $48.00 (FULL MOTION VIDEO)
SEXXCAPADES-THE MOVIE $44.20 (FULL MOTION VIDEO)
MY PRIVATE COLLECTION $32.78 (BBS READY)
DEEP THROAT $42.76 FULL MOTION VIDEO
MAN POWER $41.00 BBS READY
WE ACCEPT VISA, MC, AX & DISCOVER. CHECK OR M.O. (ADD 3% FOR CREDIT CARDS
$4.00 S&H FOR ORDERS OF 1-5..$1.00 PER EACH ADDITIONAL DISC.
SHORELINE CD-ROM PHONE: (310) 652-2858
1206 S. HOLT AVE. #1
LOS ANGELES, CA 90032 FAX: (310) 652-2608
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From: STEVE WON Number: 2246
To: ALL Date: 08/31/93 1:36a
Subj: Panasonic CR562B Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am considering getting this CD-ROM drive to add to my system. Can
anyone tell me pros & cons of this drive? I had intended to go with a
SCSI drive initially, but the cost was too much to justify. Now the
Panasonic has come out and it seems like a reasonable drive. No one on
the nets seem to say that it is a bad drive. One reservation that I've
got is the fact that it is a proprietary format. This may just be a
minor point because if the SoundBlaster card is ever knocked off as
being the #1 sound card, I could go out and buy the controller, just for
the CR562B. The info claims that it adheres to the MPC-2 standards, so
I can just take that at face value as being true.
Being 320 ms access time with 300 kb/s is obviously better than the
Mitsumi and they are in a similar price range. Using Norton Speed cache
may help things also. Is there any disadvantage to the slide out tray
rather than a caddy system? Has anyone had any compatibility problems
with this drive?
Can anyone tell me if updated drivers would be obtained from Panasonic,
or Creative Labs? I hear that this drive was a joint venture between
the two companies. I also read that a program is not included to play
music CD's with this drive. Is that correct? If so, can any ole
program that plays music CD's on other drives be compatible?
Also what sort of RAM is needed to load the drivers for the Panasonic?
Is the size comparable to the other drives? I assume that it will be
able to be loaded into high memory.
Please bear with me here, as I am just using this forum as a sounding
board. I think that this just MAY be the one! I want to make a
intelligent decision and would appreciate any input for this purchase.
By the way, I'll just be using this drive for normal stuff, like games,
running Multi-media apps, possibly Corel, and any interesting stuff that
comes along. I just want a drive that will be suitable for software
that will come out in the next couple of years. I was almost
considering the Toshiba 3401B, but the dollars were still too much.
Then this was introduced at a reasonable amount of money.
Any help is appreciated.
TTYL
... If there is an obvious solution it is always obvious.
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From: FRANK RUSKO Number: 2247
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/01/93 4:48p
Subj: Mpc Atlas Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GORDON PETERSON duly noted in a message to ALLEN DIETZ on 08-24-1993
and mentioned
GP> AD>For a world atlas, Global Explorer from DeLorme Mapping is the best.
GP>
GP> AD>my opinion, Global Explorer is FAR superior to any other CD-ROM
GP> AD>based world atlas currently on the market.
GP>
GP> I second that opinion. The Software Toolworks US/World Atlas, for
GP> example, is pathetic by comparison (although admittedly cheaper).
GP>
GP> * SLMR 2.1 *
Gord...Would you be kind enough to post an address
please..Thanx..Frank
Entered on <<08-24-1993>> from Shawnigan Lake B.C.
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From: KEVIN SULLIVAN Number: 2248
To: MIKE AVILA Date: 09/01/93 1:22a
Subj: PAS/Texel Owners Onegaish Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Onegaishimasu -- Japanese for "please look favorably on my request..."
And you thought this was computers only, for shame...
MA> I got the Texel drive and the PAStudio16 ...
A friend and I have the same setup, but we are still cutting our teeth on
getting it going. Due to a comedy of errors <sigh> a well-known dealer
shipped my system sans upgrade kit in the same box, so I have 12 discs,
a bare drive, the PAStudio, no SCSI cable or sound cable or <maybe> the
proper drivers. It is "in the mail," and I have no reason to doubt its
truth, I just hate the one month wait for overseas shipping crap with
errors and different shipping dates causing excessive delays and
transpacific calls with no hard info.
Don't order overseas unless price and time outweigh impatience and service
and perfection concerns. Those 2am panic calls add up!
<ASIDE>
But then I have another friend ordering a Gateway and they have been
promising "this week" for 5 weeks, and he is FED UP worse than I at this
point; he is going to cancel and go with another dealer if his call gets
another song and dance into never-never-land of the future. And, he wants
a "loaded" system with CDROM and Telepath modem, despite my whiffs of
warning that both these are not quite tops in ease. Turnkey is his goal.
My Q is, why won't the MSCDEX.EXE and TSLCDR.SYS shipping with the PAStudio
work as is? What more is needed, and what exactly is in this PAS upgrade
kit? I look in the TSLCDR.SYS file, it says TEXEL xx24, so it apparently
can run the Texel, so what are we waiting for? Apparently all the proper
command lines of MSCDEX and TSLCDR.SYS are in the PAS install books, and
his config and autoexec but he gets (with SCSI cable but not sound) hooked
up a "No device recognized" error on bootup. Chapter and verse, Install guide
(PAStudio) pg 44-48, Texel Troubleshooting chapter pgs 32-39. Maybe those
Q&A questions in the back ARE worth something, though academic to me till
the SCSI & sound cables appear.
Keep in mind both of us are short the Upgrade kit with supposed drivers and
cables (SCSI 50 pin & sound jumper), but my friend balked at the $90US
price for the upgrade kit from HIS (different) dealer, and bought a $10
SCSI cable, figures he can piece together the sound cable himself in
Akihabara (Japan's Electric City, wild computer/hardware place 10 blocks
square). Is he going to miss some critical software with the upgrade?
Short and simple, what comes with the upgrade kit and is it *necessary*
for a single cdrom off PAStudio card given access to 3rd party SCSI and
sound cables? What critical driver beyond the PAStudio MSCDEX and TSLCDR.SYS
is necessary? The straight skinny from a PAStudio and Texel owner with
working system is needed. QEMM or EMM excludes as well.
Or, is this just a software memory range exclusion conflict with the Texel's
0388H base factory address range? Conflict? Procedure for chasing down.
HELP! Nobody said SCSI was going to be painless, and we need the voice of
wisdom before we get soured on the wonderful PAS card, Texel drive, and
cowboy dealers pushing devices not painless SYSTEMS that work first time
for butt-stupid consumers [not really, but this has been a bit frustrating].
Apologize for length, but this is worth clearing up, for this month,
at least! <g> If we get concise response, I will save it and upload for
the next panicked consumer in the death throes of ignorance...
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From: BRIAN DOLF Number: 2249
To: ALL Date: 08/31/93 1:59p
Subj: question? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Here is a question for anybodywho sell computer products. Is the price
of 10-20 dollars a real bargain or do ya think im getting ripped for
broken merchandice?
Hmmmmmmmm say an ad for them it said unused cd-roms so i was a little
suspicios ya know.
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 2250
To: RACHEL REPSTAD Date: 09/01/93 2:11p
Subj: games Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Hey! I really want Space Quest 5. I like the space quest series but I
-> favorite series would be the Police Quest Series. I beaten 1, 2, and
-> can't wait to number 4. Sqace Quest 3 is my favorite out of the space
-> series. I have CD-ROM drive but that is on the BBS so I can't use it
-> games. The BBS is networked but it is incredibly slow through the net
-> Dad says he's gonna get panasonic but I don't know when that will be.
-> played the Wolf 3D games? They are incredible! I've beaten games 1-6
-> but I haven beat any of the games in Spear of Destiny. Now Doom is su
-> come out soon and I can't wait to get that! Also Biomenace is pretty
-> I beat it the same day I got it. Well gotta go. L8R. :)
Space Quest 6 is full of puns as usual... It has a lot of mimicks from
Star Trek, but that makes it the more hilarious! How old are you? I'm
17.
Police Quest 3 is my favorite of the PQ's. SQ5 is my favorite SQ.
I don't have KQ6 yet, but want it. I love the Wolfensteins!!!! I haven't
played 2-6 yet, but I do have Spear Of Destiny! It's 20 levels. Not too
challenging. I beat all 20 levels in one day. Some of them were
familliar levels for some reason, I just knew how to get through a few
parts of it...
Anyhow, it's nice to see a fellow game enthusiast!
I have a Mitsumi CD-ROM myself, was only $200 with 16bit cont. and drive
only... Pretty good deal anyway..
I got to borrow Wing Commander 2 on CD from a friend! What an excellent
game! It blows the doors of WC1!!!!.
In 1 the frienly fighters were pretty much defenseless, but in 2 if you
shoot one 2 times, it says 'Stop him! He's a traitor!'. Then all
friendly ships in area attack you! You can't continue mission even if
you destroy all friendly ships.. It is SO cool! I'm going to get 1 and 2
deluxe on CD some time..
TTYL,
Henry
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From: DAVE REED Number: 2251
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/01/93 8:12p
Subj: MANPOWER - NEW GAY CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Gordon!
Wednesday August 25 1993, Gordon Peterson writes to Janusz Surowka:
JS>> oh boy, that's excellent <G> "fags on disc"
GP> It may not be your "thing", but hey, why shouldn't it be available to
GP> those who might be interested? A little bit of tolerance, please, for
GP> people whose interests might be different than your own.
We do NOT have to tolerate immoral behavior. No one should.
... Grow your own dope... plant a liberal!
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From: STEWART ROTHMAN Number: 2252
To: LEE NOGA, LION'S DEN SOFTWARE, FL Date: 08/31/93 10:21a
Subj: Catalog of art Refer: NONE
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Lee, I have your most excellent CD of Clipart, titled POWERPAK Series, Volume
II, PCX POTPOURRI, Encyclopedia of Clipart. I understood that you were coming
out with a printed catalog of the art on that CD. The art on the disk is
superb and I've used much of it many times in publications and brochures.
However, as I said when we talked before, there's so much art on it and the
names/titles aren't always exactly indictitive of what the art is, a catalog
would be a great help and would make the disk much more valuable. If the
catalog is now available, please send me one by air. If one is not yet
available, I'd really appreciate hearing when one would be available and how
much it'll be. My voice phone number is:
(907) 474-0685 and my mailing address is:
Stewart N. Rothman, The Lens Unlimited, 921 Woodway, Fairbanks, AK 99709
Thanks,
Stu
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From: STEWART ROTHMAN Number: 2253
To: ALL Date: 09/01/93 1:36p
Subj: Corel Photo CD Wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anybody have for sale the new COREL PROFESSIONAL PHOTOS CD-ROM ?
It contains 100 royalty-free Hi-Quality images
I just saw it advertised on page 10 in the Sept 93 issue of WINDOWS
Magazine for $49.95 suggested list. If anyone has it, please advise asking
price.
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From: MARTIN GOMEZ Number: 2254
To: ALL Date: 09/01/93 11:21p
Subj: CD-ROM Trade? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Anybody interested in trading cd games? I have:
1.Battle Chess
2.Where in The World Is Caremn Sandiego? DEluxe Edition
3.Mantis Experimental Fighter & Civilization (same cd)
If interested, please E-mail me.
Martin Gomez
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 2255
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/02/93 7:45a
Subj: Re: Mac cd-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Hey Boris - how about a listing of your Macintosh titles? They dn't have
> to be Mac specific, they can be dual format. -
>
BO> Will try to post a few Bob, but I've stated before, doesn't seem like
BO> there's a lot of interest in MAC cd's.
BO>
BO> Dr. CD
I beg to differ with you there Boris. You would be suprised at the number of
AppleCD 300 that are being sold, not to even count all the AV's that are
hitting the market with CDs installed. There IS a substantial market there if
you guys would just carry the disks and advertise...m2
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From: STEVE GERWECK Number: 2256
To: ED FEINS Date: 09/01/93 10:55a
Subj: CD CADDIES FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Ed Feins to All <=-
EF> I have EIGHT CD-CADDIES for sale.
EF>
EF> $25.00 - shipping INCLUDED in USA
Could you sell me 4 of them for $12.50? :) I really don't need all eight.
Steve
... 313-242-8792
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From: TOM GUELKER Number: 2257
To: MARK WOMACK Date: 08/29/93 8:42a
Subj: Cd-rom Help! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MW> Hi TOM,
MW> TG> Mark, it might be psychological, but they sure do sound better on my
MW> TG> $2000 computer than my $600 rack system!
MW> I don't doubt that you perceive a difference at all, I was just
MW> interested in what would make that difference. Is the software you
MW> speak of a digtal-to-analog converter? If that were the case, there
MW> could be a real difference depending upon phase correction and
MW> oversampling rates.
MW> Please tell me more...
I don't know if Multimedia Component System (MCS) is a DA converter.
Just that computer control seems to make it sound better.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 2258
To: JOE HAYES Date: 08/28/93 12:46p
Subj: CDROM Slows BBS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
[WEB LAN]
JH>Thanks or the info Don, Just wondering, will the WEB NOS work with the lanta
JH>2mbps cards?
Almost NOTHING except Lantastic will work with those proprietary boards.
It's almost like throwing money down the toilet.
JH>If so how much do they want for there software?
I bought a two-node demo version of WEB LAN for 10DM (about $6),
complete with full docs, at CeBIT in Germany in March or April.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 2259
To: JOSEPH GAWLIKOWSKI Date: 08/28/93 12:48p
Subj: CDROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JG>Does anybody know approximately what read-write cdroms cost? And exactly
There are no read-write CD-ROM systems available yet, to the best of my
knowledge. There are write-once CD-ROM systems, they cost $4-8K.
JG>what are the advantages of a Scuzzy type CDrom?
They plug into SCSI adapters, which might save you a slot.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 2260
To: MARLIN ROWLEY Date: 08/28/93 12:56p
Subj: Explain Sound Cards to me Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MR>generalize everything. First, you want a sound card that can handle
MR>16-bit data. So a 16-bit sound card will suffice. However, because a
Many 16-bit sound cards are still used by most games in 8-bit mode.
Unless you have a particular sensitivity or an overstuffed wallet, the
8-bit cards are usually sufficient for most people's casual purposes.
MR>sound. Most 16-bit sound boards can sample and playback TRUE CD sound
MR>however, there is a small catch..... signal-to-noise ratio. If your
MR>s-t-n ratio is very low, then you have the best clarity when playing
MR>back the smapled sound in CD quality. The higher the number, the more
MR>noise on playback.
Actually, it's the inverse. The bigger the signal-to-noise ratio
number, the less noise there will be on playback. Pre-Dolby tape
recorders used to get 45-55 decibels signal/noise ratio (depending on
the tape speed, 45db was quite mediocre), and Dolby C has raised that to
the 60's-70's. CDs and high quality power amplifiers have signal/noise
ratios of 100 or higher (which yield effectively NO audible noise at
all, even at quite high playback levels). Decibels are a log scale,
where each 3db represents twice the voltage level, and each 10db is
perceived as being roughly "twice as loud".
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 2261
To: MICHAEL EVANS Date: 08/28/93 1:03p
Subj: Multi CD Rom Drives Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
ME>Is there a multiple cd rom drive available for a BBS apart from the Pioneer
ME>disk unit ?
There are several others available, but not at competitive prices for
typical sysops. I've seen a German unit with two banks of 50 CDs (50 on
each side), and another unit with a rotating carousel, I think it holds
several hundred (300?) CD-ROMs. But you'll faint when you see the
pricing. :-((
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 2262
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/28/93 1:09p
Subj: PRECISION MAPPING UPDATE! Refer: NONE
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MS>TITLE: Precision Mapping v 1.5b **UPDATE** (Improved city search)
MS>DESCRIPTION: A complete, detailed map of the United States, with search,
MS>edit, draw, and print capabilities. ZOOM in on any city, right down to
MS>the zip code, area code, or even STREET! Look up addresses, measure
MS>distances, plan travel routes, print laser-quality maps, and clip images
MS>for import to other programs! All in a user-friendly environment! Prc $88
How does that one compare to US Street Atlas?
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 2263
To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 08/28/93 1:14p
Subj: Red Hot CDROM Specials Refer: NONE
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DC>PC Sig 12.................... 19.95
DC>Prophone '93 Business........ 24.95
I take it they fixed the missing-cities problem on that disc?
DC>Prophone '92 3 CD Set........ 31.95
GREAT price on that set.
DC>PC Sig 11.................... 18.95
What is the relationship between 11 and 12? Lots of dupes, just an
update, or are these completely different discs? Do these discs come
with file descriptions etc in any kind of standard easy-to-search
ASCII (not by just a proprietary search engine) format?
DC>So Much Shareware #3......... 26.95
That one sounds like a winner.
Sounds like it's just about time to order a new batch of goodies. I
presume you still have my credit card info on file?
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 2264
To: GERALD RYCKMAN Date: 08/28/93 1:23p
Subj: WHAT CD-ROM? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GR>You might wanna check out the "CD-ROM a month" (in Toronto) which I
GR>believe is available internationally. If you order before October
GR>15th, 1993, it will costs only $99.95 for one year or $149.95 for two
GR>years. Regular price is $119.95 for one year and $179.95 for two years.
That sounds great. When is the first disc going to be ready to ship?
I'd be glad to subscribe to it. Do those prices include postage?
GR>If you're interested, you can called them (JANA Publishing) at 1-800-
GR>363-2083 (VISA/Mastercard) or 1-416-922-5597 FAX or 1-416-538-4673 BBS
GR>(nothing much in there...lousy setup...nobody's maintaining it).
Thanks, I'll have to look into that one. :-)
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 2265
To: BRAD JENSEN Date: 08/28/93 7:59p
Subj: Caddy-o-rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BJ>Pioneer is coming out with a follow-on to the fanatastic 604X, that will
BJ>hold 18 CD's in 3 magazines. Supposed to be out in November with a list
BJ>about $3000.
That is an OUTRAGEOUS ripoff. It is basically just the same drive, but
with two more magazines added... it _can't_ cost them $10 more to build
it.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 2266
To: DON HANCOCK Date: 08/28/93 8:06p
Subj: FontMaster CD Library Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AG>14 Aug 93, Don Hancock writes to Arnie Gross:
AG> DH> Are these TT fonts? ATM? both? Actually I'm only interested
AG> DH> in TT, but $18 isn't too bad.
AG>As an example, here is the data on the four Avante Garde 60 point
AG>Landscape font files:
AG> AG600RPN.USL 228269 01-06-92 7:32a
AG> AG600BPN.USL 237017 01-06-92 8:53a
AG> AG600IPN.USL 262240 01-06-92 9:57a
AG> AG600XPN.USL 272444 01-06-92 11:13a
The FontMaster is a collection of 36 (?) font families in HP
Downloadable soft font format, in a wide variety of sizes and weights
(usually normal/bold/italic/bolditalic). It's a large collection of
variants, ideal for the HP laser printer owner who doesn't use TrueType
or ATM fonts, and who has the ability to convince their software (Word
Processor, desktop publishing program, or whatever) to use these kind of
fonts!
NOTE that the fonts are all in the US forms (i.e. they include NONE of
the foreign accented characters, or any characters above 7-bits
(decimal character 127))... that's what the *.US* means.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 2267
To: ALL Date: 08/31/93 2:35p
Subj: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have seen a few messages about starting a new echo for multimedia, and
other "branches" from this main echo. I for one, do not see that other
echo's would serve the purpose. I do, however, have some suggested
changes. Please make note of the changes:
This echo, CDROM, would stay basically the information echo. All ads in
any form would be diverted to the CDROMSALE Echo, moderated by Tim
Helton. Adult titles would be discussed in that echo also, as most
people are either selling them, or wanting to buy them, and Tim has no
objections to the topics of adult related material.
This echo has been serving you for 8 years or so. Presently, the
majority of the topics are multimedia related anyway, so I personally do
not see a need for a specific multimedia echo. This echo has been
instrumental in the developement, advertising, and promotion of CDROM
Technology, and it shall continue to do so in the future. Many of the
newcomers of this echo, simply do not realize just how insturmental it
has been in the industry. There has always been a desire to bring in
other echo's, but this one has remained tried and true to the users.
This echo basically contains information, reviews, help, and multimedia
topics (Sound Cards included) and the creation of other echo's would be
redundant to the FIDONET concepts.
I personally would like to make the above changes within the next 30
days, again, CDROMSALE would be for advertising and topics related to
adult discs, and this echo will be devoted to information, including the
ever popular topic of multimedia.
Please feel free to give me your input.
Bob Hall
Moderator
1-405-672-1708
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From: BARRY MEAD Number: 2268
To: ALL Date: 09/02/93 12:53p
Subj: Sony 535 speedup Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
After Talking to Sony and Trantor Systems (formerly Adaptek) I was told
that it is possible to speed up the Sony 535 drive by setting some
jumpers and using a different software driver. This arrangement
increases the size of the transfer buffer from 8k to 64k which smoothes
out the data transfer and allows programs like The 7th Guest to run on
the Sony 535 drive.
They no longer sell the upgrade. They want you to buy all new CD-ROM
drives for $459.00, so does anyone out there have this modification?
It is no longer available from Trantor or Sony! They tell you that it
did exist but they say that the support was too high so they
discontinued it. (They had to educate peoply about IRQ's and such).
Even though I assured them that I already know enough about my computer
and it's IRQ configurations they refused to sell me the product.
Please if anyone has this product call me at (602) 827-9413 or reply
with a private note on this echo. Thanks
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 2269
To: CORKY CORCORAN Date: 08/31/93 9:59p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi drive. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Whenever I reach a certain point in the game, my drive sits with the busy
> lgith blinking and doesn't do anything. Sierra said it was because their
> DMA
Hi,
Try non-DMA driver. It may solve the problem. TTYL
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 2270
To: ALL Date: 09/01/93 11:41p
Subj: Elysian Archive /Amiga Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Coming Soon!....
Elysian Archive
Welcome to the World of Amiga...
Finally, an Amiga CD-ROM designed for BBS'!..
* Games
* Utilities for all Amiga Models
* Tracker Modules(ST/NT/MED)
* Demos of commercial software
* Eurodemos
* Animations
* 24 bit images
* Programming
CD Specifications
* ISO9660 format; readable by Amigas and PC's
* File names are in 8.3 format for compatibility
* Over 6000 files
* Over 600 Megabytes
Produced by TFS
Published and Distributed by GroupWare
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From: BRUCE CLAUNCH Number: 2271
To: ALL Date: 09/02/93 1:07p
Subj: NEC cd-37 lockup Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
HELP!!
I just brought myself a new MB 386sx40mhz , when I installed everything but my
NEC scsi board everything works fine
but as soon as I put in the scsi sometimes power will not come on
the computer and when it does come on it locksup and the only way out is to
reset or power down I have changed the address setting
and still no luck, I have pulled the other cards to see which
one might have the conflict no luck there either.
everything does work in my old 386sx 25mhz.
so Please help me, I dont want to go back to the 25mhz
**((Bruce))**
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2272
To: ALL Date: 09/01/93 9:39p
Subj: SHAREWARE ONLINE #2!!!!!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
| Starvector Sales Bulletin #2: TOP 5 NEW CD TITLES |
5-STAR PREMIUM WINDOWS * Latest Windows shareware + 950 OS2 files!.....$27
MYSTIQUE OF THE ORIENT * 600mb movie featuring Oriental beauties (a)...$59
PRECISION MAPPING 1.5b * Newest release! Detailed street-level map.....$79
SHAREWARE EXPLORER * New shareware 4-pak w/ less than 1% dupes!........$54
SHAREWARE ONLINE #2 * Brand new w/ pure 1993 files! The NEWEST s/w CD!.$37
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2273
To: ALL Date: 09/01/93 9:39p
Subj: CD-ROM PREORDERS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
| Starvector Sales Bulletin #3: CD-ROM PRE-ORDERS |
We are now taking pre-orders on the following titles
- Cards are not processed until date of shipment -
BUSTY BABES II * Over 1000 new and original hi-rez scans + Showoff (a).$29
PC-SIG 13 * Newest CD from the oldest shareware distributor............$33
PIER 3 * 650+mb of all new material w/ no dupes to Pier 1 or 2.........$39
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: ERIC ESKAM Number: 2274
To: RICHARD NIXON Date: 09/02/93 11:53a
Subj: Ati + 7th Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
ML> I was thinking of purchasing an ATI Graphics Ultra Pro 2mb/EISA...
ML> and I noticed you said you had probs playing 7th Guest and only 86%
ML> optimal on the video...
ML>
RN>A word of advice... if you are not going to run OS/2 or care little
RN>about tech support, the ATI should be a okay company to do business
RN>with. If you plan to run OS/2 or need drivers for other non-Windows
RN>operating system, then you might want to consider Orchid or some other
RN>company.
Check out the Cirrus Logic 542xx chipset based cards.
Latest issue of Computer shopper did a little servey of cards, and they blew
away even ATI's most expensive cards.
The CL's can be had cheeply, and I don't know about the 7th Guest (will be
getting my own copy soon :) but the cards are FAST (especially the Local Bus
one
I use with OS/2 <grin> but the ISA version is still respectable).
Eric
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From: ERIC ESKAM Number: 2275
To: ROBERT POWELL Date: 09/02/93 11:58a
Subj: Cd-Rom Help Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RP>could by an optional 20 dollar controller to use the Panasonic with
RP>arguement doesn't make sense. The Panasonic offers allot of bang for
RP>the buck and is worthy of consideration.
Hey, you sound like you own one of these beasts... I have one also :)
Problem: I currently have it without drivers. Know where I can get them
easily? the ROM is a CR-523-B with the seperate 8 bit controller.
And, bonus question: Do OS/2 drivers exist for this combo, or just when it is
used with the SoundBlaster?
Thanks in advance
Eric
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 2276
To: DEALERS Date: 09/02/93 4:49p
Subj: U.S. History CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I need a MAC Compatable CDROM entitled US History by the Bureau of Development.
CDROM to be used is an AppleCD 300. Request Price and shipping info..tks..m2
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 2277
To: DEALERS Date: 09/02/93 4:51p
Subj: All about Science CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for a MAC compatable CDROM entitled "ALL ABOUT SCIENCE" originally
distributed by Queue. Request price and shipping info..tks...m2
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 2278
To: DEALERS Date: 09/02/93 4:53p
Subj: Comprehensive Review in Biology Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for a CDROM entitled "Comprehensive Review in Biology" orignally
distributed by Queue. Request pricing and shipping info...tks..m2
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 2279
To: DEALERS Date: 09/02/93 4:59p
Subj: Mayo Clinic Health Book Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for a MAC Compatable CDROM entitled "Mayo Clinic Family Health
Book". Request price and shipping info..tks..m2
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 2280
To: DEALERS Date: 09/02/93 5:04p
Subj: 800 College Boards Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for a MAC Compatable CDROM entitled "800 College Boards"
originally distributed by Queue. Request price and shipping Info...tks...m2
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 2281
To: DEALERS Date: 09/02/93 5:06p
Subj: Classroom CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for a MAC CDROM entitled "CLASSROOM". Request pricing and shipping
info...tks..m2
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 2282
To: DEALERS Date: 09/02/93 5:12p
Subj: Multimedia Animals Encyclopedia Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for a MAC CDROM entitled "Multimedia Animals Encyclopedia".
Request pricing and shipping info ..tks..m2
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 2283
To: DEALERS Date: 09/02/93 5:14p
Subj: Famous Places CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for a MAC CDROM entitled "Famous Places" by Jasmine Multimedia
Publishing. Request pricing and shipping info..tks...m2
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 2284
To: DEALERS Date: 09/02/93 5:15p
Subj: Macademic Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for a MAC CDROM entitled "Macademic" by Quantum Leap. Request
pricing and shipping info...tks..m2
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 2285
To: DEALERS Date: 09/02/93 5:52p
Subj: About Cows CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for a MAC compatable CDROM entitled "About Cows" from Quanta
Press. Request Price and shipping info...tks..m2
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 2286
To: DEALERS Date: 09/02/93 5:55p
Subj: Anatomist¬ Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for a MAC compatable CDROM entitled "Anatomist¬" by Folkstone
Design Inc.. Request pricing and shipping info...tks..m2
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From: RAY DYER Number: 2287
To: MICHAEL KONOR Date: 09/02/93 9:43a
Subj: Re: scsi cdrom Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Michael Konor to Brian Elfert <=-
MK> This one works fine out to 690 megs. With the new roms, I haven't had
MK> a problem and I've read everything off of the drive that's in the root.
That is about 70 minutes on the CD ROM. One quick test to see if your CD
ROM drive is capable of the maximum is to place a 70 minute CD in there
and head to the last track. I got a music CD with 74 minutes on it so it
can go beyond the limit of 700 Megs.
Oh yes, listening to a CD ROM on an audio player gets you a lot of white
noise in Stereo, and not mono. Since the CD is sampled at 45
KHz/channel, and the data is stored in analog mode, it is just like a
high-speed modem, so an audio CD runs at 150 Kbps thru your stereo. The
dual-speed CD ROMS just speeds it up to the Chip and Dale speed, but you
never hear it as most sounds on the CD are Sound Blaster VOC format and
plays back at normal speed.
What is really fun with the MM-Encyclopedias on an Audio CD player is
you hear on the one channel the sound effects of birds, and the other
channel is the sounds of instruments or other animals.
(I seem to be going on and on here!)
-Later
... "Scotty, beam me up another Blue Wave message."
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From: MICHAEL OUJESKY Number: 2288
To: SYSOP Date: 09/02/93 10:58p
Subj: CDROM echo falls off backbone Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
According to a recent post by Mike Fuchs, this echo (CDROM) has fallen of the
echolist and will be removed from the backbone.
Later...
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From: RJ KULMAN Number: 2289
To: ALL Date: 08/29/93 2:27p
Subj: tandy cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
anyone interested in puchasing a Tandy CD-ROM
here's some spec's
Tandy CDR-1000 CD-ROM $165.00 includes dely
Half Height / Internal
Controller / Installation Software
Caddlyless Loading
Plays Music CD's / Front Audio Jack
2 RCA Audio Outputs-Rear
Reads 630Mb CD's
Call RJ Kulman 718 968-9167
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From: RJ KULMAN Number: 2290
To: LUIS CARVAJAL Date: 08/29/93 2:28p
Subj: Kodak Photo CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LC> Does anyone know what exactly should I need in order to see pictures fro
LC>CD?
LC>
LC> This is what I own:
LC>
video does not require anything special
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 2291
To: JD BROWN Date: 09/02/93 7:57a
Subj: Re: CDROM Slows BBS Refer: NONE
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LR> The best network solution I have found for
LR> CD-ROM drives is a CD-ROM
LR> network called CD-SHARE.
JB> The best network solution I have found for multiple CDROMS, is
JB> OS/2 2.1 and Lan Server 3.0.
That's true. I should have said the best peer-peer DOS solution.
Les
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2292
To: ¢┘┘3LVW▄▄¼RB╟π█Ö>~RÇ≈∞ Date: 09/02/93 3:44p
Subj: CD LIQUIDATION! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NOTE: This message was originally addressed to ROB MCINTYRE
and was forwarded to you by ROB MCINTYRE
--------------------
RM>What is the JEDI Collection ? Is it a Star Wars library ?
No Rob, it an educational CD package from the Joint Education
Initiative at College Park Md. Deals with Earth and Space Sciences.
Later,
.\\ike
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From: TOM ARRUDA Number: 2293
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/02/93 12:18p
Subj: Need Number Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Rowan,
Thanks for taking the time to reply to my cry for help, but it turns
out my SoundBlaster16 had a bad controller section. I returned the
card to Software ETC and they gave me a new one. Everything works
fine now except when I run the "Rebel Assault" demo on my Day Of The
Tentacle CD, both the audio and the video stagger and strobe.
Believe it or not it runs smooth on my friends Mitsumi LU500!!!
Regards, Tom Arruda
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From: ROB LIBRIZZI Number: 2294
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/31/93 4:50p
Subj: $9 CD SPECIALS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Mike,
If you have a catalog and/or Price List for All of your products please send
me one.
Rob Librizzi
224 Pinedo Drive
Titusville, Fl 32780
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From: INF0RMATI0N SURFER Number: 2295
To: RICK COOKE Date: 09/01/93 7:46p
Subj: Virtual Sex Disk Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Some guy, Rick Cooke, said this to Don Rieb <=-
RC> Apparently it was developed on the MAC. Too bad! Maybe there will be
RC> a DOS version in the near future. It looked like a fun program to
RC> 'Play' around with.
RC> Rick
How are the graphics? Digitized? Scanned? Drawn cartoon like?
Might anyone know? Another good disc to look at is called
"The Interactive Advntures of Seymore Butz". Totally captured
quicktime video and digitized sound. NICE!
Inf0
... Drop your carrier ... we have you surrounded!
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From: DANNY TONG Number: 2296
To: SETH KLINE Date: 09/02/93 4:35p
Subj: Cd game prices Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SK> How much do good game CD's cost? Like some good Sierra games like SP4,
SK> PQ4 etc? Please get back to me.
I've seen Sierra games for under $20 and newer title for over $30. Check the
CDROM_SALE conference, there are tons of ads there. And the occasion
"misplaced" forsale posts here.
I bought a sort of Sierra game, it's by Dynamix (their subsidiary) for $13.
It seems like prices range from $10-$50. Averages about $25-30.
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From: DANNY TONG Number: 2297
To: LISA HUTTER Date: 09/02/93 4:32p
Subj: My new cd-rom! help Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LH> I've just recently installed a panisonic CD-Rom and I'm not sure how to
LH> get the most out of it...I thought that I'd be able to play musical CD's
LH> while working in Windows, etc...
You need a CD player program. Try looking for CDAUD.ZIP or CDPLAY.ZIP. Is
the CD-ROM drive hooked up to a sound card? If not, is there a speaker jack
on the front of the drive?
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From: DAVID HARRISON Number: 2298
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/02/93 10:11p
Subj: Re: CD-ROMS-DISCOUNT PRICES! Refer: NONE
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NB> DAGGER OF AMON RA $32.78 TOO MANY MORE TO LIST!!!
NB> KINGS QUEST V $16.74
NB> LOOM $14.66 FOR A COMPLETE CATALOG, LEA
NB> SUPER SHAREWARE/w/SUPER BBS $31.05 E-mail ADDRESS OR POSTAL
NB> TERRORIST GROUP PROFILES (CIA) $31.91 ADDRESS!!!!
My netmail addresses are: 1:124/1211, 777:717/6, 75:7214/19, 13:100/20,
150:151/100, and 362:214/101 (David Harrison)
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From: DANNY BANISTER Number: 2299
To: JANUSZ SUROWKA Date: 08/30/93 11:07p
Subj: Benchmark test for CDRO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>If you find one, tell me.
Pick up a CD called MPC Wizard by Aris. It should do everything your
looking for.
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From: TAMI THOMPSON Number: 2300
To: MICHAEL KESSLER Date: 09/02/93 7:39p
Subj: AMIGA CD ROM.. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MK> What type of CD ROM would be good for a Amiga
MK> 2000. The CD ROM should be able to play photo
MK> CD's and of course be compatable with CD TV disks
MK> as well as PC CD's (Mods,gifs ect). Price should
MK> resonable if possible.
Well, we use a Toshiba 3200 external SCSI CDROM w/our A2000. We use the SCSI
controller that we already had for our hard drive. As far as playing photo CDs,
I can't help you there. To use the CDROM w/the Amiga you will need to purchase
a file system (for example, AsimWare, or Xetec). This will let you *read*
CDROMs (however, you will only be able to *run* CDTV disks (some, not all) or
other Amiga-specific disks. To run PC CDROMs you would need to use a
bridgeboard w/its own SCSI controller). We purchased our CDROM used for $200.
Good luck, and feel
free to ask any additional questions! -Tami
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2301
To: CARLOS BENITZ Date: 08/31/93 6:45p
Subj: SHAREWARE AND CDS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> >> FF> I think it will only be a matter of time before ""CD of the month"
> >> FF> clubs start
> >> Were there "Disk of the mnth" clubs 10 years ago?
> BF> CBS CD Club has been around appx. 10 years, not sure about the BMG
>DisK, floppy of the month clubs. I was attempting to point out that this is a
>fairly new technology, not well intrenched in the average home. While we're
>getting closer, I wouldn't expect a successful mass-market disc of the month
>club for about 6-18 more months. Nothing big for probably 2 years.
We have a "disc of the month" club around NOW for CD-ROMs - I saw their
literature at the One BBS Con....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2302
To: MARC CIRCOSTA Date: 09/01/93 12:52p
Subj: Q'S ON THESE NEW PANASONI Refer: NONE
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> Lately I have been reading with intrest about the Panasonic 562/563b drives,
>- Will they connect to a PAS16
NO. There might be a SCSI version of these drives that is compatable with the
PAS16, though.
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From: DUSTIN GILL Number: 2303
To: ALL Date: 09/03/93 1:44a
Subj: cd game Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I got indiana jones and the lost city of atlantis on CD-ROM. I think its
aWesome With the voice. Damn if it Wasnt on cd then it Would take up 160
megs.
--- WM v3.01 [Eval]
* Origin: (The InnerCircle) (410 239 7528) (CD ROM) (14400bps) (1:2617/111.0)
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From: JOHN BIERRIE Number: 2304
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/02/93 7:56a
Subj: Mac cd-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Boris Osadciw,
In a message on 01 Sep 93, at 01:44, you wrote to Bob Shuster saying:
>>> Hey Boris - how about a listing of your Macintosh titles?
>>> They dn't have to be Mac specific, they can be dual format. -
BO> Will try to post a few Bob, but I've stated before, doesn't seem
BO> like there's a lot of interest in MAC cd's.
Boris,
Please do! :-) Though, personally, I don't run a Mac, I keep an eye out
for a number of friends who do, in one notable case, my boss who just purchased
a 660 AV with CD... Since part of his reason for doing so was because I was
"willing" to help him find "good" CD's to use with it, I'd be grateful if you'd
post some of the Mac titles from time to time...
Thanks.
PS... the job you save, may be mine! :-)
John
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* Origin: Doc's Place BBS - Peoria, IL - 309-682-6560 (FidoNet 1:232/39)
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 2305
To: ALL Date: 09/02/93 7:38p
Subj: Dealers Wanted !!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
==========>>>>>> W A N T E D D E A L E R S <<<<<<===========
Wanting people to become Dealers, Or to distribute to Dealers
Call Mutli-Media and ask for:
Darrel Rivenbark
Cheapest Prices around !!!!
1-800-865-5354
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From: DAVE TERRELL Number: 2306
To: IAN DOW Date: 09/03/93 9:22a
Subj: Modems Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Ian...You are the first person I have heard of that also has(had) a
Dallas Fax modem. I bought one more than a year ago. It was the but it was
just called the Dallas Fax 9696. I had loads of trouble with it in the
beginning, but managed to make a call to the company when they still worked.
It takes a humongous init string to make it work. Seems the factory settings
weren't good enough. Mine came with MTEZ Fax/Modem software, by Magic Soft.
It worked ok thru that but I still had problems. Anyway, I loaned it to a
friend of mine since I have a new system, but will be glad to try to help. My
home number is 904-286-6541 or BBS number is The Phantom's Lair at 904-286-5575
and you can leave a message there 24 hours a day. Good Luck.
And thanks to all of you for putting up with the both of us for being in the
wrong echo for this topic. I'm sure all of you know the frustration of having
something that doesn't work and not getting help from the company.
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* Origin: The Phantom's Lair BBS (904)286-5575 (1:3608/25)
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From: DAVE TERRELL Number: 2307
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/03/93 9:40a
Subj: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
Hello Bob...couldn't agree with you more. Expanding to another form of CDROM
echo can only help those of us that don't understand all there is about it. I
know the other echo would be for advertising, but then it would free this one
of the multitude of advertising that is done on it! I am not complaining about
the advertising as it is a very useful tool for competition and helps us all
find the best seller with the best price. This echo could also include any
problems or fixes and/or opinions on software too! We all like to hear about
games and programs before we buy them. That's business. Great idea and thanks
to you I'm sure things will only get better.....DAVE
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* Origin: The Phantom's Lair BBS (904)286-5575 (1:3608/25)
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From: AL KOLLER Number: 2308
To: RONALD LEON Date: 09/02/93 7:08p
Subj: OS/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Ron. The OS/2 update package is available to anyone with a previous
version of OS/2 OR any prior DOS.... So most all of us would qualify. Hurry
though. Ends soon I think (9/30?).
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* Origin: SPACE COAST BBS, Titusville, Florida, (407) 269-2169 (1:374/3)
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From: AL KOLLER Number: 2309
To: MICHAEL KESSLER Date: 09/02/93 7:10p
Subj: Re: AMIGA CD ROM.. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Mike. Might be willing to let my Chinon 431 go for around $300 once my
Pioneer 600 gets here. Let me know if you are interested. True scsi, plug
and play on Amiga.
Al Koller
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* Origin: SPACE COAST BBS, Titusville, Florida, (407) 269-2169 (1:374/3)
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From: JOHN KROPP Number: 2310
To: ED FEINS Date: 08/31/93 9:31p
Subj: CD CADDIES FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Ed, I will take em at that price if in good shape and postpaid to me at that
figure. Let me know if agreeable. Thanks!
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From: RODOLFO VAZ Number: 2311
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 09/01/93 9:39a
Subj: Cd-rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Jim,
... four months later ... YES! My CD-ROM driver (Mitsumi) got
FOUR MONTHS to arrive here, in Brasilia. Do you believe ??? Four
months ???? It's incredible, but I thougth that it wouldn't take so
long, and the salesman told me it would take only three or four days :(
Well, anyway I have a CD-ROM driver now, and I've bought Night
Owl's 9 just to try it for the first time. As I have my CD-ROM driver
right on my hands, I'd like to get your LAST CD-ROM catalog, o.k. ? Do
you accept Mastercard ?? You wrote me you were dealing with them ...
That's it, I just want to get your last catalog, with new
CD-ROMs, and this time I will buy the CDs O.K. ? I just hope the CDs
doesn't take 3 or 4 months ... :)))
Thanks
Rodolfo Vaz
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■ SLMR 2.1a ■ Brazil mail in U.S.A. ! From Brasilia, Capital of Brazil!
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From: DIANE PENCIL Number: 2312
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/31/93 9:45a
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> You're a dealer aren't you Poe?? Its probably cheaper for you to get
> caddies than it is for the average user.... Most users I know of with
> caddy type drives can only afford one caddy... and they are amazed and
> impressed by the Panasonic....
Give me a break! A person buys a 200.00 cd rom and can't afford the 5.00 for an
extra caddy? When the software costs from 10-100 a disk, an extra 5.00 for the
added convience of a caddy is hardly prohibitive.
--- FMail 0.92
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From: JOHN HART Number: 2313
To: ALL Date: 09/01/93 12:00a
Subj: Hi Speed Mitsumi FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I got a super deal on a brand new Mitusmi CD-ROM still in the box, never
used. I've already got one and love it, so I'm selling it for the first
$170. Comes with the 16-bit card, cables, software, everything you
need. It's a caddyless internal drive that runs Photo and Music CD's as
well as CD-ROMs. 350 ms access, 150k/sec transfer rate. (513)376-1125
or post repsonse in this ech
--- WM v3.00/91-0129
* Origin: PW&M BBS (513)-376-9711) 1:110/470 (1:110/470.0)
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From: SHAUN RADER Number: 2314
To: VINCENT CAPALBO Date: 09/01/93 10:08p
Subj: Bbs cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
<<***** VINCENT CAPALBO wrote this on 08-30─93 {May be edited} *****>>
─>Do all CDROMS constantly spin when a disk is inside. If so a BBS
─>would have it spinning 24 hours. I know Tandy makes one that doesn't
I have the Sound Blaster CD-ROM (Panasonic 150K per second, 390ms access
time) and it doesn't spin constantly. It will spin for about a minute
after it's last use, then it will stop until it needs to read from the
disc again. I don't know if double speed CDs stop, but they should.
-Shaun Rader-
-Madman@Liberty.Com-
09/01/93 19:38
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From: RON YOUNG Number: 2315
To: ED FEINS Date: 09/02/93 8:13a
Subj: CD CADDIES FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message dated 29-Aug-93 15:25:00, Ed Feins wrote:
EF> I have EIGHT CD-CADDIES for sale.
EF> $25.00 - shipping INCLUDED in USA
I will take these. Give me your address info and I will send payment for the
caddies.
Ron Young
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* Origin: Amys' Place - [419-691-0279] - Toledo OH (1:234/22)
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From: ROSS SLADE Number: 2316
To: ALASTAIR EDGINGTON Date: 08/31/93 4:54p
Subj: OS/2 and SoundBlaster Pro Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
following up a message from JACK O'NEILL to ALASTAIR EDGINGTON:
AE> I've got OS/2 2.1, MultiMedia Program Manager with SoundBlaster
AE> Pro set up and working fine, but i can't get the SoundBlaster CD-ROM
AE> working!!
JO> What you want is either CLIOS2CD.EXE, available from
JO> Creative Labs BBS, or CLICD2.ZIP, avaiable on the IBM
JO> support BBS. CLIOS2CD is a self-extracting archive that
JO> contains a device driver (SBPCD2.SYS) and instructions.
No,no...there's a new driver for OS/2, called SBCD2.* it has a new driver (OS/2
2.1 made changes to the way drivers work) just follow the docs. It should be on
your local board or get it from CL.
Ross 8-)
/^^^\
(O O)
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If Windows sucked it would be good for something.
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2317
To: RAJIV JOSHI Date: 09/02/93 4:40p
Subj: Toshiba xm-3401ta Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Rajiv!
On 08-30-93 Rajiv Joshi wrote to Rowan Evans...
RJ> do you know the difference between the toshiba 3301, 5500a, 3401b, and
RJ> the 3401ta?
Trick question?
Sorry, but no I don't!
o
/U\
... OFFLINE 1.52
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2318
To: ROGER SMITH Date: 09/02/93 4:41p
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Roger!
On 08-30-93 Roger Smith wrote to Rowan Evans...
RS> Caddies are only about $5 each. Surely, that's not much to
RS> protect a CDROM that can cost much more.
See my replies to Poe Lim and others earlier in this echo!
Cheers!
o
/U\
... OFFLINE 1.52
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2319
To: CHRIS FRANCIS Date: 09/02/93 4:44p
Subj: SBPro - pc speaker on mb Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Chris!
On 08-30-93 Chris Francis wrote to Rowan Evans...
CF> Be VERY carefull when you hook this up! If one plug is in backwards
CF> this can damage or DESTROY your Sound Blaster and/or your motherboard!
CF> If you do decide to do this get the tech manual on your motherboard
CF> and check the pin assingments on the speaker jack.
CF> The assignment on the motherboard for the speaker is pin 1 and pin 4
CF> on the jack, however, which pin is +5 volts and which pin is the speaker
CF> pin can varry from board to board. You might be able to check this
CF> with a multimeter.
It's not something I'd consider as even a ratty $A10.00 set of speakers
attached out the back will provide better sound than the SB Pro Speaker
Out....
This must be why the SB16 ASP has deleted Speaker Out and swapped to
having this as Speaker In.....
One nice point with the PAS16 was that it would intercept the PC speaker
*WITHOUT* any additional wiring!
Cheers!
o
/U\
... OFFLINE 1.52
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From: SEAN TUDOR Number: 2320
To: ALL Date: 09/02/93 8:26a
Subj: 7th Guest CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi all,
I am running the 7th Guest on a CR-562-B and a Sound Blaster 16.
The game runs fine BUT the music is so loud I can barely hear the characters
talking in the game. Does anyone else have this problem ? Could it be
due to the fact that the game is using a Sound Blaster Pro OPL/3 driver
that is not entirely compatible with the SB16.
Any help would be appreciated,
Thanks,
Sean.
... Jurassic Frenzy - Steven Spielberg help me !
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* Origin: Galen BBS "A Happy Heart is like Good Medicine" (3:711/920.0)
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From: BRIAN KING Number: 2321
To: RACHEL REPSTAD Date: 08/30/93 1:56p
Subj: Laura Bow II Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I saw your message to Henry Paul saying that you had Laura Bow II. I also have
this game but I am stuck on level two. I am in the museum. I have talked to
all the people and then they disappear. I have picked up the glass on the
table but other than that I can not do anything.
PLEASE HELP!!!
The game came with a sierra hint line number but when I ring them up there is
no clues left there.
Would be grateful for any help that you could give me.
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* Origin: Programmers WorkBench [Ph 077-213-592 24Hrs V32/PEP] (3:640/715)
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From: IAN BISHOP Number: 2322
To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Date: 08/31/93 4:56p
Subj: Cica Windows Update Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
IA>>CICA Windows CD-ROM disk had been updated and now available from
I would have sent this netmail Ismail, but I want to actually check if
you recieved my previous netmail. Could you please respond either via
the echo or at fidonet 3:640/201
regards, Ian Bishop
* OLX 2.1 TD * When Crusha Talks - EVERYBODY Listens!!
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From: GIL GOLDFINCH Number: 2323
To: STEVE ROGERS Date: 08/29/93 7:57p
Subj: CABLES- DRIVE TO SOUNDCRD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I've been trying to get an audio cable for several weeks without success so
appreciate your help. Media Vision have a SCSI driver/cable kit (Part No.
830-0007-01) for NEC Internal Drives and PAS 16, but the audio cable has a five
pin plug on both ends. The NEC CDR55 has a three pin audio socket.
The local distributor for the NEC CD are also having problems locating the
correct cable. NEC Australia are of no help. I would expect that NEC would
have supplied the CD player with all the necessary cables but this is not the
case.
Please let me know if you have a suitable cable and how to order (Visa card?).
--- Maximus 2.01wb
* Origin: "Lightning BBS, Perth WA, +61-9-344-7199 (4 lines)" (3:690/602)
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From: MICHAEL POWELL Number: 2324
To: ALL Date: 08/29/93 8:42a
Subj: Cirrus Logic Video Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have recently changed my Tseng labs VGA card for a Cirrus Logic HiColor card.
With a bit of tweaking here & there I managed to get everything working except
for The 7th Guest. Whatever I do, eg loading Paradise VESA extensions etc. I
cannot get any video output from this game. The game still runs, all the sound
comes through, but no video.
Has anybody else had this problem. and if so what was your solution.
BTW it is definitely to do with the card because, when I put Tseng back in T7G
runs fine.
Thanks in anticipation.
MIKE
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* Origin: The Perth Omen. Western Australia's First BBS (3:690/660)
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From: DON PUGH Number: 2325
To: AUSTRALIANS Date: 08/29/93 8:40a
Subj: Affordable cdroms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
The following disks are available from:
Don Pugh, CDROM SUPPORT BBS
17 Irvine St
Peppermint Grove, West Australia 6011
PH 09-384-9043 BBS Data 09-383-4925 (Fidonet 3:690/750)
Night Owl 9 $49.00 Seventh Guest $89.00
Super ClipART $19.00 PC-SIG Games $39.00
Super Games for Windows $19.00 Circa Windows $29.00
Simtel-20 1992 $19.00 GIGA Games $39.00
For Affordable CD-roms in Australia: Credit Cards Accepted
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* Origin: CD_ROM SUPPORT BBS,(3:690/750) Perth, 10Gb Files (3:690/750)
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From: DON PUGH Number: 2326
To: MAHMUT KURSUN Date: 08/29/93 9:59a
Subj: Pressing CDROM, what-to-do Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I thought your contribution was most useful and have saved it for my BBS. Its
the sort of message that should go on internet, and I expect will end up in a
book on making cdroms.
Good work.
--- msgedsq 2.2b
* Origin: CD_ROM SUPPORT BBS,(3:690/750) Perth, 10Gb Files (3:690/750)
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From: LAURIE BATT Number: 2327
To: RON WILKEY Date: 09/02/93 8:56a
Subj: ATZ Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Regarding the original message from Ron Wilkey of 1:291/12
writing to Atz on <Aug 30 21:06> while confessing..Hello Ron,
In a message on <Aug 30 21:06>, you wrote:
RW> ?
RW> ATZ
RW> ATZ
What are trying to do ??? reset my Modem ??? <G>
Laurie
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From: LAURIE BATT Number: 2328
To: CHRIS FRANCIS Date: 09/02/93 8:59a
Subj: Re: Night Owl 9 ? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* On Aug 30 23:27 Chris Francis quoth this to Kevin Plummer
KP>>JS> Has anyone got NO9 ?
KP>>JS>
KP>>JS> Is it a vast upgrade to NO8 ?
KP>>JS>
CF> You didn't answer the question!!! I would like to know
CF> also. NO AD'S PLEASE!!
Yes, there is little duplication between the two disks
Laurie
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From: ROBERT HAWORTH Number: 2329
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 09/01/93 12:44p
Subj: New Roland Compat Sound C Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Its called the Concurrent. Powersource is the importer. Ph (02) 744-5826
Sydney (03) 383-6509 Melbourne.
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* Origin: The Starship Heart of Gold! +61-2-744-5544 (3:712/720@FidoNet)
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From: POE LIM Number: 2330
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/03/93 12:43a
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Rowan,
On Aug 31 17:20 in a msg to Poe Lim, Rowan Evans of 3:711/413 wrote:
> the average price for a single caddy for the casual user appears to
> be about $A15.00.
Most of them are around A$12 (well, those advertised via mags or SMH).
> Now, you and I haunt this echo and can grab a deal with a cheap
> CD-ROM caddy, etc, but a lot of the users I talk to place BBSes and
> modems in the voodoo/black magic category, and even telling them to
> "call so & so" doesn't have much impact....
It's their bad luck; even if you're a dealer, if you shop around you can get
stuff cheaper than if you just go to one supplier blindly. Now I'm not saying
that we get these products cheaply; we still have to spend time to sift through
the mass of data to get the info we need.
> Well, I operate on "open CD-ROM, extract old ROM, place in case,
> open new ROM case, place on tray, close tray".... Simple, foolproof
> process... No hassles!
Well, we agree to disagree on caddies. :) I put everything into caddies, eject
one and slip another in. Extremely foolproof, and I don't handle the CDs at all
after loading the caddies directly from a shrink-wrapped case.
> Of course it was interesting the one time I accidently inserted a
> second ROM without checking that the drive was empty!
1.3Gb capacity? :)
> BTW, if you have an audio CD player, is it a caddy type or a tray
> type??
Haven't seen caddies for those yet, only for the compact CDs.
Cheers,
Poe
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From: RON FINDLING Number: 2331
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 08/31/93 3:01a
Subj: Cd-Rom Interfaces Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>LR>Also, Always has refused to produce OS/2 drivers for
>LR>their card, while Adapt
>Again, I'm not sure that's a bad thing. A company can waste a lot of
>money chasing after all the latest fads, and it's the user that
>ultimately foots that bill.
Since OS/2 is selling better now than it ever has (300,000 copies
per month), that makes it rather large "fad."
There were two main reasons behind why device drivers have been so
slow to come out for OS/2: one was the high prices charged by IBM for
their device driver programming kit, and the other was the perception
by developers that OS/2 would never become popular.
Neither are true anymore (IBM lowered the price greatly, and OS/2 is
*already* popular) so expect to see this hole covered relatively
quickly.
___
X SLMR 2.1a X Klondike is a form of Patience. So is Windows under DV.
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* Origin: DaTaCoRp (1:353/730)
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From: RANDY MCANALLY Number: 2332
To: ROY FUNG Date: 09/01/93 10:46a
Subj: RE: SBPRO CD ROM DRIVES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have a mail order catalog called Dammark and they carry it for 180
dollars. When I bought it with my computer (custom built), it was $130
and that's what they charge at Computer Parts Plus (San Diego). You
should look around in all the computer stores because it's probably one
of the most compatable and best sound card that's not GUS or anything. I
would rate it above a SBpro any day. Oh, Dammark's number to get a
catalog is: 1-800-729-9000 for orders, 1-800-788-7001 for customer
service, and 1-800-729-4744 for product info. The Sound galaxy part
number is B-4310-351132.
Later
--- WM v3.00/93-0105
* Origin: Buck's Place BBS 11+GIG 100k FILES 201 adult echos (1:202/1513.0)
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From: KEN MATTHEWS Number: 2333
To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 08/22/93 12:43a
Subj: CD ROM List Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Doug what is your BBS Phone Number? While back I use to call and you had
a file that had over 500 CD's listed. Do you still have that file and
what is it called?
Thanks.. Ken
... Glad To Be Here..
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From: LAURENT WILKIN Number: 2334
To: ALL Date: 08/27/93 10:04a
Subj: DUNE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi,
Is there anybody who knows the CD of Dune. (1 of course)
Because I would like to buy it but I don't know If it's realy good....
Thanks.
Viper
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 2335
To: STEWART ROTHMAN Date: 09/02/93 11:11p
Subj: Re: Corel Photo CD Wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Does anybody have for sale the new COREL PROFESSIONAL PHOTOS CD-ROM ?
> It contains 100 royalty-free Hi-Quality images
> I just saw it advertised on page 10 in the Sept 93 issue of WINDOWS
> Magazine for $49.95 suggested list. If anyone has it, please advise
> asking price.
Hi Stewart,
Corel Photo CDs are not new. They were being published by a folk from Pacific,
WA for quite sometimes ago. Corel bought the disks from him and they are
selling now. He used to sell them for $70 and Corel reduced the price. :-) TTYL
-= IA =-
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* Origin: GroupWare CD-ROM Support & Sales BBS: 1-206-581-9088 (1:138/116)
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 2336
To: FRIEND Date: 09/02/93 11:15p
Subj: Aldus PM 5.0 CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Dear friend,
I don't remember your name right now. However you were insisting that there is
an existing CD version of PM 5.0. Beta version of it had been published in 23
Aug. 1993 and regular version in CD format will be shipping at Sep. 15, 1993.
(if everything will be going as scheduled). Therefor there is no CD version of
it available forsale. The ad you have seen in Computer Shopper was a little
typo and many companies may do with a mistake. TTYL
Ismail Arslangiray
GroupWare
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 2337
To: SEAN TUDOR Date: 09/02/93 11:17p
Subj: Re: KQ5 & SQ4 CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> have to switch to text only because I am getting music but NO speech
> whatsoever. Is there a bug in SQ4 or is there another problem ?
> Has anyone else been able to run SQ4 with full speech ?
Hi,
You need and updated driver. (I assume you are suing SB - 562 combo). TTYL
GroupWare
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 2338
To: BRAD ORR Date: 09/02/93 11:19p
Subj: Re: CD Rom Drive Sound Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> I have a question about my CDROM drive. I have a Texel DM3401
> ( an internal double speed drive) and there is a headphone jack
> on the front of the drive that I have _never_ been able to get sound
> from using music cd's. What must I do to hear sound from this jack?
> (I have a SB16 as well, and music cd's will play through it.)
It should play thru there, plug your speakers there and test it. If it doesn't
work, consult to the place where you bought it from or Texel customer support.
TTYL
GroupWare
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 2339
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/02/93 11:21p
Subj: NO BBS READY Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> ***ADULT***
> ASIAN LADIES $31.91 (BBS READY)
YES
> MOVING FANTASIES $19.85 (BBS READY)
NO
> VISUAL FANTASIES $19.85 (BBS READY)
NO
> VOLCANO $32.78 (BBS READY)
YES
> SOUTHERN BEAUTIES $31.91 (BBS READY)
YES
> STAREWARE $31.91 (BBS READY)
YES
> STORM I,II,III $22.38 (EACH!) BBS READY
NO
> MY PRIVATE COLLECTION $32.78 (BBS READY)
NO
-= IA =-
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From: PAUL SZUDZIK Number: 2340
To: DON BOSMAN Date: 09/02/93 6:31a
Subj: PHONE DIRECTORY CD'S FOR Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DB> Every listing I have checked is inaccurate in
DB> at least one area. My residential number is 4 years out of date, my
Thanks I was going to buy this this weekend at the Shelby, NC HamFest.
Was this the full blown 7 ( or 8 ) disk set, or was this the 3 Disk Set?
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 2341
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/03/93 7:31a
Subj: Echo Changes Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
I think your ideas for both this and the "for sale" echo are right
on target, Bob. I support you and Tim agreeing to make this switch on
Oct. 1.
... RAM DISK is NOT an installation procedure!
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN Number: 2342
To: ALL Date: 09/02/93 7:43p
Subj: NEW CD-ROMS! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
New and Hot at CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA, its the DR. CDROM series!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Dr. Music - Music Editors, MOD, MIDI, ROL, SND, VOC, WAV and more!
Dr. Shareware - 615 megs of shareware programs and utilities!
Dr. Games - Adventure, Arcade, Card, Sports, Strategy, Puzzles, more!
Dr. Windows - 3400+ files of MS Windows 3.x programs and utilities!
...and they're BBS Ready!
In Canadian Dollars: $80 for all four, or $28 each (all applicable
taxes included) In U.S. Dollars - $57 for all four, or $19.95 each
** CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA ** 306-789-4654 Voice / 789-8690 Fax
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From: BARRY MISHKIND Number: 2343
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/03/93 1:58a
Subj: 1 of 2 - Deleted EchoList 309 Entries Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
* Original to All in moderator
* Forwarded Fri Sep 03 1993 01:58:15 by Barry Mishkind @ 1:300/11.3
On <Sep 02 93> Mike Fuchs (1:266/71) wrote:
MF> The following EchoList entries have not been updated in over seven
MF> months,and were listed with WARNINGS in last month's EchoList. Since they
MF> are assumed to be out of date, they have been deleted from the
database
MF> for the production of this month's EchoList.
MF> CDROM
MF> CD ROM Discussion and Information
MF> Moderators: Bob Hall, 1:147/23.0@fidonet
MF> Last changed: 29-Jan-93 by: Bob Hall, 1:147/23.0@fidonet
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From: BARRY MEAD Number: 2344
To: THOMAS FITZGERALD Date: 09/03/93 2:11a
Subj: Cd-rom output. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thomas Fitzgerald wrote
Hey guys, I am having trouble with something......
On mys SB card, I have 1 output and 2 inouts (mic, midi.)
On my CD-Rom, I have two outputs, headphones, and line out (L,R,)
Now, hoe can I configure all this to work on a set of little amp
speakers. I realize that the line out jacks are only minimal
voltage therefore can really be heard with 8ohm connections, so how
the hell do I get this to work with only one set of speakers without
having to buy the comuter type ammplifier.
You connect the output of your SB card to speakers. This is a 3-wire
stereo jack that will operate two speakers. If the sound is not loud
enough you can get amplified speakers from radio shack for $20-$30
depending on how fancy you want to get.
To interface the cd-rom to the SB card there is (on most cd-rom drives)
a 4-pin connector on the back edge of the cdrom that connects to a
similar 4-pin connector on the edge of the SB card. These pins are
small and spaced 1/10th inch from each other. Some CD-ROM's use
a 5-pin connector. Usually the cable comes with the CD-ROM drive
itself.
If you have no cable you can make one out of two pieces of
shielded cable. The outer two pins are ground and the inner two pins are
Left and Right channel. The 4-pin connectors you will have to scrounge
up from a local electonics shop that sells "molex" connectors. Hope
this helps. Barry
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From: LANGSTON GOLDFINCH Number: 2345
To: ALL Date: 09/03/93 7:38p
Subj: PhoneDisc and Maximus Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello All!
anyone been able to put the two set Phone disk on line with Maximus?
If so could you send me the door files? I am using a six-pack CDRom and
CDMX2dor.
Regards
Langston
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 2346
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/03/93 7:19a
Subj: Re: Caddy-o-rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> BJ>hold 18 CD's in 3 magazines. Supposed to be out in November with a
> list
> BJ>about $3000.
> That is an OUTRAGEOUS ripoff. It is basically just the same drive, but
> with two more magazines added... it _can't_ cost them $10 more to build
> it.
Yes, you are exactly right. Infact I have the audio version on my stereo
system. TTYL
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 2347
To: MICHAEL MULCAHY Date: 09/03/93 7:21a
Subj: Mac cd-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> BO> Will try to post a few Bob, but I've stated before, doesn't seem
> like
> BO> there's a lot of interest in MAC cd's.
> BO>
> BO> Dr. CD
> I beg to differ with you there Boris. You would be suprised at the
> number of AppleCD 300 that are being sold, not to even count all the AV's
> that are hitting the market with CDs installed. There IS a substantial
> market there if you guys would just carry the disks and advertise...m2
You are right about AppleCD. While there are not too many titles like IBM,
however their number is increasing every other day or many of them are dual.
Our MAC CD-ROM sales went up 300% compare to last few months. TTYL
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From: GENE EHRICH Number: 2348
To: SAM JONES Date: 09/02/93 8:00a
Subj: Photo cd software Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SJ>Thanks, Sam
Are you by any chance the Sam Jones that worked for IBM in Phila in the
early 70's?
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From: KEN HARVEY Number: 2349
To: JD BROWN Date: 09/02/93 10:08p
Subj: Re: CD ROM disk cache Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MW> DS> Does anyone out there know of a good disk cache for a CD-ROM?
JB>
JB> OS/2
If he was being serious, you most certainly weren't :) OS/2 while the best
multitasker and with many a function caches the CDROMS but not that well.
In fact not many programs cache CD-ROMS well unless you are fortunate enough
to have a 1 Gigabyte PC and you use 660megs for a CD-ROM cache! Just that
most systems won't benefit from a CD-ROM cache.
Ken Harvey
Hypercached :)
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From: KEN HARVEY Number: 2350
To: ALL Date: 09/02/93 10:21p
Subj: Text Encyclopedia Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello,
Am looking for a TEXT ONLY Encyclopedia that is fairly current. Can anyone
recommend one from experience? Want to put it up as a door on a BBS so I
don't want pictures. I have heard of them in the past but now with
multi-media the "in" thing they are somewhat of a dinosaur. Any
suggestions?
Ken Harvey
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From: WILLIAM SCHNEIDER, JR. Number: 2351
To: ALL Date: 09/02/93 11:13p
Subj: Smartdrv as cache Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello out there! Can anybody please tell me how to write a disk cache for
my CD-ROM drive using the version of Smartdrv that comes with DOS 6?
Microsoft may have thought that they were saving paper when they come out
with 'on-line help', but it don't help me any! What I tried to do was
this:
C:\DOS\SMARTDRV.EXE I:+ 2048 2048
But it didn't work. I even tried to do it without the '+', but it still
won't go. I know, a lot of people will tell me to use another cache
program, but I bought DOS 6 for all the new features, and can't stand any
of them, so I gotta get my money back out of it somehow! By the way, I: is
the drive letter for my CD-ROM. Thanks in advance! Chow!
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From: DOUG DAGGER Number: 2352
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 09/03/93 9:13p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
How good are the graphics on it?
I was lokking for very good graphics like the ones that from a few feet away
look like pictures.
Thanks
sI'm talking about the matsumi.
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From: WILLIAM HERBERT Number: 2353
To: ALL Date: 09/04/93 12:00a
Subj: Re: AMIGA CD ROM.. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On Tue 31-Aug-1993 8:35p, Michael Kessler wrote:
MK> What type of CD ROM would be good for a Amiga 2000. The CD ROM should be
MK> able to play photo CD's and of course be compatable with CD TV disks as
MK> well as PC CD's (Mods,gifs ect). Price should resonable if possible
c2 Any SCSI compitble CD romm unit will do, What your asking though inst realy
up to the cd romm itself but the driver software. in wich case you can go out &
buy the cheapest cd romm drive & have it do everything you listed & more with
the correct Driver Software. I recomend XETEC's Software. It will show Kodacks
Photo Cd'z , Will read the ISO standard of any platfor out there... You caN
REACH XETEC support at 800 445 0611
seeya! 8)
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2354
To: DARIN CELINO Date: 09/02/93 10:44a
Subj: MITSUMI LOCK-UP Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>These drives didn't have the audio cable. Did you know that the drivers don't
>tie up the DMA channel selected without the audio cables installed? I guess
it
>only uses the DMA channel for playing audio CD's ? ? ?
Not true - it depends on WHICH DRIVER you set up.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2355
To: CARLOS BENITZ Date: 09/02/93 10:50a
Subj: SHAREWARE AND CDS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> >> FF> I think it will only be a matter of time before ""CD of the month"
> >> FF> clubs start and everybody will get a nice new CD in the mailbox each
> >> FF> month.
> >> Were there "Disk of the mnth" clubs 10 years ago?
> BF> CBS CD Club has been around appx. 10 years, not sure about the BMG
>DisK, floppy of the month clubs. I was attempting to point out that this is a
>fairly new technology, not well intrenched in the average home. While we're
>getting closer, I wouldn't expect a successful mass-market disc of the month
>club for about 6-18 more months. Nothing big for probably 2 years.
Someone has already started a CD-ROM of the month club - I saw their literature
at the One BBS Con.
>While the readers of this echo may almost all have cdrom drives, by no means
do
>most computers.
True - but the proportion is growing fairly quickly. I don't expect these folks
to hit the sales level of a CBS or BMG or even a Musical Heritage club, but....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2356
To: BRUCE BOWMAN Date: 09/02/93 1:36p
Subj: NIX PIX CD'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Where can I obtain Nix Pix CD-ROM's?
Ask Telecentral here locally about them.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2357
To: CHARLES HART Date: 09/02/93 1:37p
Subj: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>But, that's you total and only recourse - the moderator "owns" the Echo and
>does exactly what he want when he wants - and if he fails to please the bulk
of
>the members they will stop comming[[[[[[[.[D [Dcoming, so I suspect the good
>moderator of this Echo is responding to member comments.
Actually, I could tell you why Bob has banned "Adult" CDROMs from the echo -
hint, check out his location then compare to Tony Davis's location....
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From: DAVID HARRISON Number: 2358
To: KEVIN PLUMMER Date: 09/03/93 8:17p
Subj: Re: Dealers Wanted !!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
KP> ==========>>>>>> W A N T E D D E A L E R S <<<<<<===========
KP>
KP> Wanting people to become Dealers, Or to distribute to Dealers
KP>
KP> Call Mutli-Media and ask for:
KP> Darrel Rivenbark
KP>
KP> Cheapest Prices around !!!!
KP>
KP> 1-800-865-5354
KP> =================================================================
Hey, I will be more then happy to be a support bbs if you need one...
(I will even test the products for you hahahaha) This is a joke
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From: LANGSTON GOLDFINCH Number: 2359
To: PAUL SZUDZIK Date: 09/04/93 12:04a
Subj: PHONE DIRECTORY CD'S FOR Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Paul!
02 Sep 93, Paul Szudzik writes to Don Bosman:
PS> Thanks I was going to buy this this weekend at the Shelby, NC HamFest.
PS> Was this the full blown 7 ( or 8 ) disk set, or was this the 3 Disk Set?
I have both (am trying to put one on line HOW?)- the seven disk set is about
three years out of date BUT has exellent indexes. The 2/3 disk set is much more
current but can only do Name searches quickly (streets, for example, take
forever.)
Also I notice that the lists are NOT the same! In one (the 6/7) my name is as
listed in the phone book and my wife's number is also lsited as in the book, in
the 2/3 disk set only my name appears and then as shown on my bill.
Interesting, eh?
Regards
Langston
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From: NEIL BERGMAN Number: 2360
To: ALL Date: 09/02/93 8:08p
Subj: SALE CD-ROM'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SHORELINE CD-ROM'S DISCOUT PRICES
These are just a few examples of our low prices...We have over 300
titles in stock.
WING COMMANDER & ULTIMA VI $15.53
WORLD ATLAS (MPC OR DOS) $15.53
KODAK PHOTO CD $15.53
ANIMALS MPC (SAN DIEGO ZOO) $20.70
DAGGER OF AMON RA $32.78 TOO MANY MORE TO LIST!!!
KINGS QUEST V $16.74
LOOM $14.66 FOR A COMPLETE CATALOG, LEAVE
SUPER SHAREWARE/w/SUPER BBS $31.05 E-mail ADDRESS OR POSTAL
TERRORIST GROUP PROFILES (CIA) $31.91 ADDRESS!!!!
NIGHT OWL 9 $30.19
UP ALL NIGHT $18.11
***ADULT***
ASIAN LADIES $31.91 (BBS READY)
THINGS CHANGE:MY FIRST TIME $37.09 (XXX 80 MIN FULL MOTION VIDEO)
MOVING FANTASIES $19.85 (BBS READY)
VISUAL FANTASIES $19.85 (BBS READY)
VOLCANO $32.78 (BBS READY)
SOUTHERN BEAUTIES $31.91 (BBS READY)
STAREWARE $31.91 (BBS READY)
STORM I,II,III $22.38 (EACH!) BBS READY
HIDDEN OBSESSIONS $48.00 (FULL MOTION VIDEO)
SEXXCAPADES-THE MOVIE $44.20 (FULL MOTION VIDEO)
MY PRIVATE COLLECTION $32.78 (BBS READY)
DEEP THROAT $42.76 FULL MOTION VIDEO
MAN POWER $41.00 BBS READY
WE ACCEPT VISA, MC, AX & DISCOVER. CHECK OR M.O. (ADD 3% FOR CREDIT CARDS
$4.00 S&H FOR ORDERS OF 1-5..$1.00 PER EACH ADDITIONAL DISC.
SHORELINE CD-ROM PHONE: (310) 652-2858
1206 S. HOLT AVE. #1
LOS ANGELES, CA 90032 FAX: (310) 652-2608
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From: KEVIN WILLIAMS Number: 2361
To: DAVID NGHIEM Date: 09/02/93 11:16p
Subj: pioneer 600] Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I plan on buying a pioneer 600 changer for use for my BBS. But I am
-> wondering that if I had six cd's on the drive at once, would they
-> show up as 6 drives? Or do I have to alternate the cd's constantly?
-> I hope this is a software automated process. I would hate to buy six
-> cd's, put them on the system only to find out that I have to manually
-> change a cd when a user wants to look at another one. If anyone can
-> help in using the pioneer for the BBS, thanks!!!!
It is automated if you can get their software to run. If you are running
Novell and want to run it on the Server, the software will cost you as
much as the drive. However, it will work on a workstation.
If there software will not work for you, there is a solution in COREL
SCSI if you need to go that route.
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From: RODOLFO VAZ Number: 2362
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 09/02/93 4:14p
Subj: Re: CD-Rom Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Jim Lambert to All <=-
JL> I have just finished making our new CD-Rom catalog. We have many new
JL> products and have reduced the price on a lot of the others. If you
JL> would like a copy of this catalog, please log on and download
JL> catalog.zip. It lists all of our titles with prices and descriptions.
Hi Jim,
as I wrote other day, my CDROM arrived just three days ago, and
as I was CRAZY to test it, I bought the NIGHT OWL 9 CDrom. And I would
like you to send me the new catalog, if it is possible. I have the
catalog you sent to me three months ago, and I'm sure it is out of date,
right ? Please, send the Credit Card form to pay the CDs with
International Credit Card, O.K. ?
My address (maybe you don't have it anymore):
Rodolfo Vaz
CNB-7 Lote 01 apto 707
Brasilia - DF - Brazil
72115-075
Thanks
Rodolfo Vaz
... Catch the Blue Wave!
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From: RODOLFO VAZ Number: 2363
To: FABRICE GROVER Date: 09/02/93 4:16p
Subj: Re: GOOD CD-ROM??? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
FG> Hey out there. I'm looking for a cd-rom for my future 486DX2-66 Mhz.
FG> expensive etc... If anyone has any opinions on which cd-rom is a good
FG> buy with a nice price/performance ratio, I'd love to here from you.
Hi Fab,
I own a 486DX-50MHZ and a CDROM that I like :
MITSUMI LU0005, 150Kbps, 350ms average access time, I paid
US$195,00 for it in Miami.
Bye
Rodolfo Vaz
... Brazil mail in U.S.A. ! From Brasilia, Capital of Brazil!
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From: RODOLFO VAZ Number: 2364
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/02/93 4:23p
Subj: Re: CD-ROMS: A SAMPLING Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Mike,
MS> 1001 Utilities (New!).........13.00
MS> Premium Windows........27.00
..... Diet quote !
I'd like to have a catalog, is it possible ?
Here is my address :
Rodolfo Vaz
CNB-7 Lote 01 Apto 707
Brasilia - DF - Brazil
72115-075
MS> (VOICE) VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER *
I'm gonna pay with MC, O.K. ?
MS> SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50
And what's the price to send to Brazil ???
bye
Rodolfo Vaz
... Brazil mail in U.S.A. ! From Brasilia, Capital of Brazil!
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From: RODOLFO VAZ Number: 2365
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/02/93 4:27p
Subj: Re: NEW CD Refer: NONE
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BO> 4 discs w/over 26,000 files 3 of which are completely DOS based files
BO> Price - $55.00
Hi Boris Osada;sldkjfdciw (what a name :))
Could you send a catalog to me ? Do you deal with MC ?
My address:
Rodolfo Vaz
CNB-7 lote 01 apto 707
Brasilia - DF - Brazil
72115-075
Thanks,
Rodolfo Vaz
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From: GUILHERME MOURA Number: 2366
To: ALL Date: 09/02/93 2:48p
Subj: CD with CAD programs! Refer: NONE
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Anybody knows any Cd with only CAD programs ??
Programs for AutoCAd, Lisp...
I see any Cd with areas for CAD... but it's poor...
Gui.
... This copy of GEdit has been unregistered for 30 days.
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From: STEVE DAGGETT Number: 2367
To: ALL Date: 09/02/93 10:09a
Subj: Sound Blaster wanted Refer: NONE
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Wanted - sound Blaster or SB Pro. Thanks!
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From: DON BOSMAN Number: 2368
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/02/93 1:08p
Subj: ProPhone 93 is inaccurat Refer: NONE
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BO>If you're paying $100. for ProPhone 93, then you'd better look for
BO>another dealer as we sell the same copy for only $25.
I bought the 7 disk set as I hadn't discovered this echo , or the single
disk business edition. If you are going to continue to sell this
program, I would respectfully suggest you look up a dozen or so
companies you are familiar with and check out the listings. I was not
happy with all the inaccuracies I found. I have to date, not found one
listing that was completely accurate. Even the listing for the
publishing company does not have all the data that is advertised as
being on the disk.
BO>Here again, if your paying $900. then I suggest you look elsewhere as we
BO>sell the most up to date copies for only $89.
Do you have the Business Marketplace CD at less than several hundred $$ ?
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From: JANUSZ SUROWKA Number: 2369
To: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Date: 08/29/93 1:53p
Subj: DOS 6.0 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
But look, some people don't have the money to buy all of those things, when
you could buy DOS 6, and get satisfactory results, instead of spending over
100's.
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From: JANUSZ SUROWKA Number: 2370
To: KEVIN PLUMMER Date: 08/30/93 2:26p
Subj: Night Owl 9 $25 Refer: NONE
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what the hell is this Night owl
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From: BETH CORRIGAN Number: 2371
To: ADRIAN VERGOT Date: 08/31/93 10:54a
Subj: kodak photo CD Refer: NONE
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hi Adrian
thanxs for the reply! would they be able to make the cd if i sen negatives
in?
Beth
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 2372
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 08/31/93 12:18p
Subj: CD-ROM GAMES Refer: NONE
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Actually Henry, I just got my Mitsumi CD-ROM drive maybe a month ago and I only
have like 3 games for it, King's Quest 5, Battle Chess(the data file is screwed
so it don't work nomore), and 7TH Guest(A real nice games), so I don't really
have any games to sell or trade, by the way what CD-ROM games do you have, no
company in perticular? TTYL
Ashwin
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From: JANUSZ SUROWKA Number: 2373
To: DIANA KIRKSEY Date: 09/02/93 9:57p
Subj: 7th guest Refer: NONE
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I gotta 386DX-40 /w a Paradise an i got 1%, i think the game has a bug in in
it...
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From: LOYD CRAFT Number: 2374
To: ALL Date: 09/02/93 2:52a
Subj: Custom cdrom Refer: NONE
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o Duplicates of the same disk are $55 each.
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From: MIKE AVILA Number: 2375
To: KEVIN SULLIVAN Date: 09/03/93 4:12p
Subj: PAS/Texel Owners Onegaish Refer: NONE
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-> Onegaishimasu -- Japanese for "please look favorably on my request..
-> And you thought this was computers only, for shame...
->
-> MA> I got the Texel drive and the PAStudio16 ...
->
-> But then I have another friend ordering a Gateway and they have been
-> promising "this week" for 5 weeks, and he is FED UP worse than I at t
I have the Texel drive and the PAStudio16 on a Gateway 200 486V33.
As I said, I LOVE it!
-> My Q is, why won't the MSCDEX.EXE and TSLCDR.SYS shipping with the
->work as is? What more is needed, and what exactly is in this PAS
The MSCDEX.EXE will work, but use the one with DOS 6.0. It has a couple
of bug fixes that the one with Windows and DOS 5.0 have. The TSLCDR.SYS
is a generic Trantor driver. The driver works with Trantor SCSI
controllers. Each sound card design is a little different due to
copyright and marketing reasons. A sound board company may start with a
Trantor controller but interfacing it to a specific boards chips creates
the need for the "special" Trantor driver.
-> Short and simple, what comes with the upgrade kit and is it *necessar
-> for a single cdrom off PAStudio card given access to 3rd party SCSI a
-> sound cables? What critical driver beyond the PAStudio MSCDEX and TSL
-> is necessary? The straight skinny from a PAStudio and Texel owner wit
-> working system is needed. QEMM or EMM excludes as well.
With the upgrade kit I got drivers, a special bracket for the back of
the case that had a cable pass-thru, SCSI and sound cables, and docs.
Those are the only drivers that are needed. I suspect that Media Vision
has the drives on its BBS. (510-770-0968 for 2400 and 510-770-0527 for
9600. Both 8N1.)
-> Or, is this just a software memory range exclusion conflict with the
-> 0388H base factory address range? Conflict? Procedure for chasing dow
Hmmm. I don't know about excludes. I did have a slight problem with
Windows. I had to set the irq=10 in system.ini. But I had VERY few
problems setting it up. Most problems were mine from not reading the
docs with the kit. The kit docs are from Media Vision.
To answer a question above, YES, you can use a 3rd party SCSI
controller. You probably need a specific driver to run it though. It
may even run faster from things I've read in the echo.
I hope I got all of your questions. If you follow the instructions
EXACTLY in the kit docs you should have no trouble. Sorry about the
delays and problems of overseas ordering.
If I can do more to help you let me know. Oh, I was just looking at the
kit docs. ONE IMPORTANT QUESTION: Are you installing internal or
external? My kit was for external. That is why I got the bracket and
RCA mini jack cables. The software for the PASpectrum is the same for
the Studio.
BTW, if you have a green dot with a K in it, you are Kodak multi-session
photo CD capable. If the driver is 3.02 you have it all! The driver
(and other software upgrades) is free from MV.
Media Vision tech support tele # 1-800-638-2807 or 1-510-770-8600 or FAX
1-510-770-8648. Let me know if I can help more.
Mike
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From: MIKE AVILA Number: 2376
To: KEVIN SULLIVAN Date: 09/03/93 4:18p
Subj: PAS/Texel Owners Onegaish Refer: NONE
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-> up a "No device recognized" error on bootup. Chapter and verse, Insta
You are using the generic driver. Use the PAS Trantor driver as I said
in the previous message. That will solve that problem.
If you don't get it solved soon let me know and I will call MV and see
if I can give you a copy of my driver legally.
Mike
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2377
To: MICHAEL MULCAHY Date: 09/04/93 2:54a
Subj: Re: Mac cd-roms Refer: NONE
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>> Hey Boris - how about a listing of your Macintosh titles? They dn't have
>> to be Mac specific, they can be dual format. -
>>
>> BO> Will try to post a few Bob, but I've stated before,
>> doesn't seem like BO> there's a lot of interest in MAC cd's.
>> BO>
>> BO> Dr. CD
>>
>> I beg to differ with you there Boris. You would be suprised
>> at the number of AppleCD 300 that are being sold, not to even
>> count all the AV's that are hitting the market with CDs
>> installed. There IS a substantial market there if you guys
>> would just carry the disks and advertise...m2 --- MacWoof 1.5.3
I never said there wasn't a lot of MAC user's, all I stated is that out of
the hundreds of calls we get each month, very few every ask for MAC titles.
It doesn't make much sense in buying several hundred copies of a product
that you may or may not sell. Even with that in mind, the prices are still
to high in comparision to IBM cd's.
If these authors would take the same out look as most of the IBM authors
do about pricing, it would be of greater interest to carry the products.
Although I will admit, we do carry commercial titles in MAC, but very few
shareware.
Hope this helps you better understand or postion, but now that we're in
our new warehouse, this may change.
Boris Osadciw
... Every Silver lining has a clone around it.
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2378
To: SHAWN MAZZUTO Date: 09/04/93 2:54a
Subj: Re: NEC CDR-84 Multi-Spin Refer: NONE
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>> Hello All!
>> Out of curiosity, would I need to buy another NEC CDR-84
>> CD-ROM for the BBS, or can I get another NEC CD-ROM, but not
>> as quick. This is so that I can use the same drivers in my
>> config.
As a general rule, most drivers are downward compatiable Shawn,
unless you get a real old NEC.
If you were to purchase a NEC 83 or 73, you could simply plug and
play these units without any changes.
Hope this helps...
Boris Osadciw
... If you're not the lead dog, the view can be very interesting!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2379
To: ALL Date: 09/04/93 2:54a
Subj: RED HOT Refer: NONE
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$$$$$$$ R E D H O T C D' S A T R E D H O T P R I C E S $$$$$$$
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GAME OR SOUNDWARE - $25. ALL CHESTNUT TITLES - $10.
HACKER CHRONICAL - $18. JOKES/PRANKS - 1001 UTIL - $10.
NIGHT OWL 9.0 - $25. KINGS QUEST VI - $47.
SO-MUCH-SHAREWARE 3 - $29. TOOLWORKS ENCYC DOS/WIN - $49.
SHAREWARE EXPLORER - $59. 9000 SOUNDS - $25.
SOFTWARE VAULT 2 - $20. 5 STAR PREM DOS/WIN - $29.
DR.CD COLLECTION - 4 CD'S - $55. PC KARAOKE W/MICROPHONE - $89.
800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) - TECH 216-225-3263 - FAX 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2380
To: ALL Date: 09/04/93 2:54a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
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**************** C D - R O M D R I V E P R I C E S ****************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit - $359.00 Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00 - SCSI
Panasonic 562 Int Kit - $289.00 Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SCSI
Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $799.00 Pioneer DMR604X Bare - $1199. -SCSI
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00 Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00 -SCSI
Texel Int Complete Kit - $469.00 Texel Ext Complete - $569.00 -SCSI
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare - $439.00 Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare- $569.00 -SCSI
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit - $195.00 Mitsumi w/Sound Card - $325.00 -PRPR
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. / Windows v1. $50. ALL ChestNuts CD's $10.00ec
ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
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From: LOIS FRANKEL Number: 2381
To: JON SHEARIN Date: 09/03/93 9:23p
Subj: Help with mscdex Refer: NONE
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On 08-28-93 15:27 Jon Shearin said something about Help with mscdex, to which
I reply:
I got this from an FTP site:
Article 8646 (26 more) in alt.cd-rom:
From: blh@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Bill Hassell)
Subject: Re: cdrom parameters
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1993 21:57:46 GMT
Here's a list of MSCDEX parameters:
/D:<entryname> This parameter 'hooks' the MSCDEX utility
with the same name given to the CDROM driver using the
same parameter. For instance:
CONFIG.SYS
device=c:\phillips.sys /d:mscd000 ...other stuff...
AUTOEXEC.BAT
mscdex.exe /d:mscd000 ...other stuff...
/L:<drive letter> This parameter tells MSCDEX which drive
letter code to use in referencing the CDROM drive. If
/L is not used, MSCDEX will use the next available letter
not currently assigned.
/M:<###> This number specifies the number of 2K bytes buffers
to allocate for increasing performance of the CDROM drive.
For standalone PC's, 8 is the default (16K bytes) while
12 buffers (24K bytes) is used for network server PC's.
This number takes memory directly from 640K unless
expanded (not extended) memory is available and the /E
parameter is specified.
/E Tells MSCDEX to place all the buffers in expanded (not
extended) memory). Used to free up memory below 640K.
/S Tells MSCDEX to patch DOS to allow sharing of CDROM drives
on MS-NET based network servers. This may not be required
or may be different depending on the network software used.
/V Provides details on memory usage, buffers used, resident
data and code and if expanded memory was used. Always
interesting to include...it makes bootup fun.
The /M parameter is used to increase the performance of the CDROM drive by
pre-reading trailing data in anticipation of future needs. It also reduces
the number of DOS read requests, but there is a point of diminishing returns
which depends mostly on the types searches performed by the software. When
the needed data is clustered or sequential in nature, extra buffers help a
lot.
... A feature is a bug with seniority.
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From: DOUGLAS NEUMAN Number: 2382
To: JOHN RICKERSON Date: 09/02/93 9:36a
Subj: CD-ROM Refer: NONE
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Hello John!
In a message to Douglas Neuman <08/28/93> John Rickerson wrote:
JR> > I have a NEC CDR-72 available for a small price of $130US that comes
JR> > with its own controller, but it is a true scsi drive so it can be
JR> > connected to a scsi controller. This is an external drive with access
JR> > speed of 380 ms and transfer speed of upto 150K but it does not have
JR> > internal circuitry to be MPC compatible. But for BBS use it would be
JR> > excellent drive. I will include software drivers that you will need f
JR> > the NEC controller board that is being included. It also comes with 5
JR> > caddys. Call me at (914)351-3325 in the evening (after 6EDT) or at
JR> > (201)818-3547 during the day.
JR> Can these drives be daisy chained? And if so how many?
JR> Thanks
JR> John
This drive, I only have one, can be daisy chained with any other SCSI
device. SCSI devices usually can be chained up to 7 devices off of one
controller. Please call and we will tlak about it.
Thanks, Doug.
* WCE 1.10/2139 * In a VERY weak moment, I started a BBS.
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From: SYSADMIN'S NIGHTMARE Number: 2383
To: JUAN-PEDRO MINON Date: 09/03/93 2:50p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM WRITER Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Juan-pedro Minon to All,all,all,aaaalllllll <=-
JM> I am looking for a CD-ROM writer (Kodak PCD Writer 200 or
JM> Philips CDD 521/10).
JM> Please reply to me with price, capatibilites, software and
JM> specifications.
$6,000 for Philips CDD 521 bundled with CD-GEN and interface.
Philips CDD 521 can write virtually any required CD format.
CD-GEN will support Orange, Red, and Yellow Book specs. It can be
run in an interactive or batch mode. The drive, BTW, writes in double-
speed.
... Veni, vidi, vendi -- I came, I saw, I sold.
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From: SYSADMIN'S NIGHTMARE Number: 2384
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/03/93 2:54p
Subj: Re: Multi CD Rom Drives Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Gordon Peterson to Michael Evans <=-
ME>Is there a multiple cd rom drive available for a BBS apart from the Pioneer
ME>disk unit ?
GP> There are several others available, but not at competitive prices for
GP> typical sysops. I've seen a German unit with two banks of 50 CDs (50
GP> on each side), and another unit with a rotating carousel, I think it
GP> holds several hundred (300?) CD-ROMs. But you'll faint when you see
GP> the pricing. :-((
... And the pricing is?
While you're at it, tell us the manufacturer, model #, and vendor, please.
Some of us might find it very cost effective for mass archival storage.
... My hard disk is full! Maybe I'll try this message section thing.
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From: TONY STOTT Number: 2385
To: DAVID WINGER Date: 09/03/93 7:58a
Subj: Misleading Answers Refer: NONE
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On 08-31-93, David Winger elucidated to Sunny Leung:
DW> SL> Can you produce your own CD's?
DW>Yes, but you need a WORM drive for that.
WRONG! A Writeable cdrom drive will ALSO enable you to produce your own
one-off cdrom disks
DW> SL> Suppose you wrote some files on a CD-ROM. Is it possible to add
DW> SL> more files to the CD?
DW>NO!
WRONG AGAIN! Using multisession writing and reading drives, you CAN
add more and read it.
DW> SL> What's the difference between a CD and a optical disk (and
DW> SL> what's a WORM drive)?
DW>
DW>A CD uses a laser beam to read the information of the disk, an
DW>optical disk is the same as a floppy disk except that it uses a
DW>laser to keep the head aligned with the disk, because the tracks
DW>on the disk are so fine.
Guess what? WRONG AGAIN! You are describing floptical technology,
magneto optical disks do not work that way, neither do cdroms.
David, I suggest you borrow a book or two from your library and
learn more about the technology before trying to answer questions,
as you might mislead people.
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From: TONY STOTT Number: 2386
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/03/93 7:58a
Subj: Caddy-o-rama Refer: NONE
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On 08-31-93, Rowan Evans elucidated to Poe Lim:
RE> Whilst I have seen ads for caddies for $A5.00, and some companies
RE> offering "free" caddies if you buy x number of CD-ROMs at a time,
RE> the average price for a single caddy for the casual user appears
RE> to be about $A15.00.
RE>
RE> Well, I operate on "open CD-ROM, extract old ROM, place in case, open
RE> new ROM case, place on tray, close tray".... Simple, foolproof
RE> process... No hassles!
RE> And if, as I said before, you were a casual user with an average cadd
RE> price of $A15.00, this makes it rather expensive....
Thought I'd step in here since my name was already "in the ring"
(thanks Poe). Rowan, it depends hugely on whether you can stand the
concept of your young offspring "playing" with your precious cdroms
while you are at work! I keep the most popular 15 disks in caddies,
and the rest inside jewel cases. My young daughter can use any of the
15 without danger. I reckon its worth it. Before I found a really good
supplier, I used to buy my caddies mail-order from Walnut Creek and
others, and I have never paid more that US$5.50 for a caddy.
But it's no big deal whether people prefer caddies or not...
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From: TONY STOTT Number: 2387
To: RONALD LEON Date: 09/03/93 4:39p
Subj: Your Tagline Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RL> * WinQwk 2.0 a#435 * America Held Hostage: Day 223 of the Socialist
RL>Takeover!
(Sorry Bob for being off-topic)
Ronald, just a couple of questions:-
Do you have elections in your country?
Do you know that people living in other countries have NO interest
in your domestic politics?
Do you know that many people reckon ALL politics is s**t?
Do you know that this is the CDROM echo?
If you answer yes to any one question, please depoliticise your taglines
Thanking you from downunder - please don't ask us Aussies to tell you
about OUR politics:)
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user
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From: MARK HAVAS Number: 2388
To: ALL Date: 09/01/93 8:34a
Subj: MPC compliant CD-ROM controller Refer: NONE
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I have one MPC/Sound Blaster Pro card with a CD-ROM. I was wondering if anyone
has or knows where (In Sydney, Australia preferrably) I can get a sound blaster
pro card and the MPC CD-ROM controller cardso I can use thge CD-ROM in another
machine.
... This a public `ool. There's no P in it. Please keep it that way!
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From: MARK HAVAS Number: 2389
To: SUNNY LEUNG Date: 09/01/93 9:20a
Subj: Re: Aus Creative Labs Bbs Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Sunny Leung to All <=-
SL> Hi everybody,
SL>
SL> Is there a Creative Labs BBS in Australia. If so, what's the number?
SL>
SL> Regards, Sunny.
SL>
SL> ... I can't steer without my beer.
SL> *** Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR]
SL> ! Origin: (3:712/401)
SL>
SL> -!- TriDog 6.0
SL> ! Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise!
SL> [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912)
There is a Creative Labs BBS in Sydney. The number is (02) 906-8392 and the
settings are:- 8 Data Bits
No Parity
1 Stop Bit
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From: ROBERT STEPHENS Number: 2390
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/02/93 12:09p
Subj: 16 bit cards Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE> MA> The PAStudio16 is NOT SCSI-1, it IS SCSI-2. The Psectrun is SCSI-1.
RE>
RE> Still has the same cruddy 680 or 690 Kbps max transfer rate though!
Its quite acceptable for a CD-ROM drive.
RE> Oops! I should have put $A in front of the $ 1,300.00! $US725.00
RE> / .6700
RE> (or so) exchange rate means that is over $A1,000.00 (without customs
RE> duty, shipping & sales tax!)....
I can get the texel brand new for $680, and the Teac (same drive,
better specs - like 35k/sec faster, motorised caddy eject, not the
scummy panasonic tandy type draw) for $665. Check it out!
-Robert
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From: ROBERT STEPHENS Number: 2391
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/02/93 12:37p
Subj: Cd-Rom Help Refer: NONE
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RE> What about if we used fur lined handcuffs?? <g>
RE>
RE> Seriously, the CR562B I purchased came with an 8-bit paddle card... Worked
RE> fine, but I wanted to save the slot, so I connected to the SB16 ASP....
RE>
RE> Interesting point, the CR562B has, on all the benchmarking I've done, an
RE> affinity for the SB cards in that it *SPEEDS UP* when attached to one...
RE>
RE> Maybe its the 16bit connector of the SB card, I don't know (and I can't
RE> find a 16 bit paddle card!)....
Heh, it the card has the extra connectors like a 16-bit card, but the
cd-interface is only 8-bit im sorry to tell you.
-Robert
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From: ROBERT STEPHENS Number: 2392
To: DOUG DAGGER Date: 09/02/93 12:17p
Subj: CD-ROM's Refer: NONE
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DD> how many bit is the matsumi?
DD>
32
-Robert
:-)
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2393
To: LOONG CHUNG Date: 09/04/93 12:33a
Subj: Re: Panasonic CDR-63 Refer: NONE
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Hi Loong!
On 08-31-93 Loong Chung wrote to Rowan Evans...
LC> What is JEDIC connector for external DAT output?
Its a Japanese standard connector for direct CD to DAT serial output.
Its supposed to enable DAT copies of CDs (audio) just as good as the
CD without all the cr*p that is supposed to occur (master -> single DAT
copy) with normal audio type recording. This is what I've been told, but
I cannot confirm or deny the story (anyone want to lend me a DAT drive??)
<g>
LC> And does it have any problem running animation of something like
LC> that? e.g. pauses, jerky picture etc.
Using the Creative Labs Version 4.10.16 beta SBCD.SYS driver, the
jerkiness and pauses in games like T7G are minimal....
LC> Can it be plug into a SB Pro v1. And does a 8bit interface card have
LC> any difference to a 16bit interface card for connecting to the CDROM.
LC> Is it faster?
Mate of mine has a CR562B connected to an original SB Pro. He has
experienced no problems with the drive/card combo....
Interesting point, the CR562B/CR563 returns better throughput figuers when
attached to an SB CD-ROM connector than when attached to the supplied 8-bit
paddle card. It could be due to different electronics, etc on the SB, but
could also be due to the 16-bit connector on the SB Pro/16/16 ASP....
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2394
To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 09/04/93 12:49a
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Doug!
On 08-31-93 Doug Carpenter wrote to Rowan Evans...
DC> RE> You're a dealer aren't you Poe?? Its probably cheaper for
DC> RE> you to get caddies than it is for the average user.... Most
DC> RE> users I know of with caddy type drives can only afford
DC> RE> one caddy... and they are amazed and
DC> RE> impressed by the Panasonic....
DC>
DC> Not necessarily. Most places charge dealers almost the
DC> same cost as you can get them for everyday at $4.95 each
DC> unless you buy a couple hundred of them....
Whilst this may be true in the US, in my experience, walking in off the
street into an Australian computer shop nearly always guarantees a price
of $A15.00. I have seen it as high as $A20.00, and as low as $A5.00.....
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2395
To: SUNNY LEUNG Date: 09/04/93 1:07a
Subj: CD authoring Refer: NONE
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Hi Sunny!
On 09-02-93 Sunny Leung wrote to All...
SL> Does anyone here in Australia make CD's for business organisations?
SL>
SL> By this I mean: a firm has a large database it wants to distribute to
SL> its subsidiaries. CD-ROM would be an excellent way to achieve this.
SL> The firm has the data to be transferred to CD.
SL>
SL> Would anyone in Australia be willing to supply a price on such a
SL> service? Are there any other requirements (e.g. firm's data to be
SL> stored on tape)?
Ring Disctronics in either Sydney or Melbourne.
They'll fax you a copy of their requirements and costs.... From memory
they'll accept various tape formats for the data to be cut as a ROM.
Costs are around $A1,800.00 for the glass master and then $1.85 or so
per CD-ROM in lots of 1,000 (they'll do smaller lots at higher prices!)
This works out to around $A20.00 per CD-ROM for 1,000 CD-ROMs.
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2396
To: SEAN TUDOR Date: 09/04/93 1:13a
Subj: Panasonic CD drive Refer: NONE
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Hi Sean!
On 09-01-93 Sean Tudor wrote to All...
ST> I have a Panasonic CR-562-B drive which came with two drivers -
ST> SBCD.SYS and CDMKE41.SYS.
ST> Is there any difference between the drivers?
SBCD.SYS uses /p:xxx for the SoundBlaster port address. CDMKE41.SYS uses
/sbp:xxx if your CR562B is connected to an SB Pro/16/16 ASP or /p:xxx if
it is connected to the 8-bit paddle card. The /sbp:xxx is courtesy of a
US contact who advised me a few days ago... I only have CDMKE.SYS
4.00.14 beta (/sbp:xxx is present here too!) so I cannot confirm this
at this stage.....
ST> At the moment I am using the SBCD.SYS driver with no problems.
What version of SBCD.SYS? There is a version 4.11 driver around (off
Compuserve) that hangs on a mate's machine and two that I've tried it
on.......
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: SEAN TUDOR Number: 2397
To: SCOTT HOLMES Date: 09/03/93 7:28a
Subj: Re: Panasonic 563 & sb16 asp Refer: NONE
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-=> and Scott Holmes was heard mumbling to All <=-
Hi Scott,
SH> It is nice to see so many other people that have the Sound Blaster
SH> 16 ASP too. I have been quite pleased with the output, but have had a
... text noted but deleted ...
SH> had sound trouble. Or any game or utility with the SB16 for that
SH> matter.
Just for your info I have a SB16 and CR-562-B - the speech from Space
Quest 4 doesn't work and the speech in The 7th Guest can barely be heard.
I have been told that I need updated drivers for SQ4 but I don't know
what the problem is with The 7th Guest.
Cya,
Sean.
... Jurassic Sparcs - the first computers with dinosaur power ...
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From: TOM BULUM Number: 2398
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/02/93 5:07p
Subj: CADDY-O-RAMA Refer: NONE
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-=> Rowan Evans was heard mumbling to Poe Lim about CADDY-O-RAMA<=-
RE> @MSGID: 3:711/413.0 2c8414e0
RE> Hi Poe!
RE>
RE> On 08-29-93 Poe Lim wrote to Rowan Evans...
PL> On Aug 23 20:44 in a msg to Poe Lim, Rowan Evans of 3:711/413 wrote:
PL>
PL> > caddies than it is for the average user.... Most users I know of
PL> > with caddy type drives can only afford one caddy... and they are
PL> > amazed and impressed by the Panasonic....
PL>
PL> The cheapest caddies I've bought (and this is cheaper than
PL> what a dealer I know can get them for) was via this echo,
PL> from a local contact (take a bow, Tony S. :).
RE>
RE> Whilst I have seen ads for caddies for $A5.00, and some companies
RE> offering "free" caddies if you buy x number of CD-ROMs at a time, the
RE> average price for a single caddy for the casual user appears to be
RE> about $A15.00.
RE> Now, you and I haunt this echo and can grab a deal with a cheap
RE> CD-ROM caddy, etc, but a lot of the users I talk to place BBSes and
RE> modems in the voodoo/black magic category, and even telling them to
RE> "call so & so" doesn't have much impact....
So let us in on this secret. Where can I get caddies for A$5? I really wouldn't
mind knowing. Netmail me on 3:620/250. Thanks.
Tom.
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From: MARCUS LEE Number: 2399
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/02/93 10:42p
Subj: ATI + 7th Refer: NONE
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RE> ML> And 86%.... I thought it would have to be 100% being such a great
RE> ML> card... Do you run the vesa drivers that came on the CDROM?
RE> Well, I'd have expected it too.. I just did a standard install...
RE> The ATI GUPro I have is the ISA version - *6% is still plenty fast enough
RE> for all the graphics in T7G!
Well even tho it gives percentage scores, it wouldn't really change
much, would it? Just the choppyness of the screen maybe?
RE> ML> Oh, and do you know ANY video cards that get 100%?
RE> Yep! The local bus SVGA on another machine I have rated 100%!
Since you've got both cards, IS there any difference between one that
rates 86% and 100%?
Is it the smoothness of the screen movement?
Regards.
BTW: If I get my hands on an EISA version, I wonder if the scores will
be the same.
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From: MARCUS LEE Number: 2400
To: JON SHEARIN Date: 09/02/93 10:46p
Subj: 7th Guest W/ 100% Video Refer: NONE
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JS> > I was thinking of purchasing an ATI Graphics Ultra Pro 2mb/EISA...
JS> > and I noticed you said you had probs playing 7th Guest and only 86%
JS> > optimal on the video.
JS> .
JS> .
JS> .
JS> > Oh, and do you know ANY video cards that get 100%?
JS>Marcus,
JS> I am currently running a 486DX/33MHz VLB machine
JS>with a Cirrus Logic VLB Video Card (uses the CL-GD5426
JS>chip). This combination gives 100% on 7th Guest.
It seems that the only people getting 100 are VLB.... unfortunately I've
only got EISA.I wonder if there are any on ISA/EISA getting 100...I
would have thought the ATI would have been the card to do it.
Now that I think of it, I guess those DOS scores on PC
Mag's video test might mean something now? I mean those GUI accelerators
with poor dos scores would be poor for 7th Guest, right?
JS> BTW, the 86% with the ATI sounds awfull. I got 74% using
a Trident JS>8900CL ISA card on a 486SX/25.
Boy, you make it sound pretty terrible... I really can't think what
these percentage scores would reflect, is it the smoothness of the
screen scrolls?
Regards.
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From: DON PUGH Number: 2401
To: DEVIN WOOD Date: 09/01/93 7:12a
Subj: NEC CDR-84 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Devin,
DW> I've been considering this drive. I have a
DW> concern though. I'm a quadriplegic and can't move
DW> my fingers. I need a drive with a caddy so I
DW> don't ruin my CDs. I'm trying to find out about
DW> the doors. Needing to use both hands to insert
DW> ther disk, I won't be able to hold a door open
DW> while I do it. How are the doors set up?
I'm a C5/6 Quad myself. Its easy enough to push a caddy into a drive with 1
hand. No worries.
Best Regards Don
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From: BRAD BOUNDY Number: 2402
To: WAYNE MAJORS Date: 09/02/93 8:31a
Subj: Re: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
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WM> Yep.. but even in a democracy, the other person's freedom stops
WM> at the end of my nose.... It doesn't include the right to punch my
WM> nose or to walk your dog on my carpet.. nor to sell porn on my BBS
WM> through this echo...
WM>
WM> It's great to live in a country where we can stand up and
WM> say "no" to those who would empty their toilets on our
WM> dining tables and call it their freedom.. and it's great
WM> to have an echo for CD ROM that has a moderator with the
WM> grit to say "no".
WM>
WM> Thanks Bob!
I agree totally! You've got MY support!
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From: ANDRE QUEREE Number: 2403
To: ERIC HSIAO Date: 09/01/93 12:45p
Subj: 16 bit cards Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Eric Hsiao to Andre Queree <=-
EH> Who cares if it isn't compatible with the SB16. The SB16 came out
EH> after the PAS-16 and the PAS-16 has the upperhand for 16-bit sound.
EH> There aren't any games that support the SB16 but not the PAS-16. It's
EH> not a limiting factor at all. The PAS-16 is still a great card.
I didn't mention the SB16 - I said it wasn't compatible with the SB Pro.
There IS a fair bit of software which supports the SB Pro, and an PAS-16 user
who boasts about how great his card is is still only going to get low quality
mono sound out of these games.
Catch ya' later!
Andre
... Al, I just leaped into a tagline. What does Ziggy have to say?
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From: ANDRE QUEREE Number: 2404
To: LUIS CARVAJAL Date: 09/01/93 12:50p
Subj: Kodak Photo CD Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Luis Carvajal to All <=-
LC> Does anyone know what exactly should I need in order to see
LC> pictures from a CD?
LC> This is what I own:
LC> - A Soundblaster CD-ROM
LC> - Corel Draw 3.0 (I think this is also useful..)
Yes, this will let you view Photo-CD. It does work, don't worry about what
other people tell you. You should note that Corel will only let you view the
pictures, you can't do many of the fancy things some dedicated Photo-CD
software will let you do (like edit the pictures). Also note that the
Creative Labs CD-ROM (if it one of the older ones) is not multisession, which
means you will need to have all you pictures put onto CD in one go. Although
you can go back and add photos to a CD a a later stage, your CD-ROM drive will
not let you view these additions.
However, your setup WILL work - I have an identical setup and I've tried it!
Catch ya' later!
Andre
... It is a rather pleasant experience to be alone in a bank at night.
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2405
To: PETER DETTELIS Date: 09/02/93 8:15p
Subj: Cd-rom Liquidation! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PD>What is the Kodak Photo CD you have listed. I might be interested in this.
It is software to allow you to view and edit Photo CD's from Kodak with a
compatible CD-ROM drive and VGA monitor. Plenty in stock if you're
interested.
Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2406
To: PETER DETTELIS Date: 09/02/93 8:15p
Subj: NEW CD 4-PAK: $59 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PD>Is this the upgraded version of the Shareware Bonanza and Shareware
PD>Extravaganza package?
No. Totally different company. Much more up to date than either of
those two. New price too: $54.00
Bye,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2407
To: MICHAEL MULCAHY Date: 09/02/93 8:15p
Subj: Mac CD Info Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MM>This is a Macintosh resource catalog. EduCorp is another CD resource for Mac
MM>users (800) 843-9497. Tiger Software offers MAC CD as does Computer
MM>Town..there's more. You migh want to consider carrying MAC CD's..there's
MM>definitely a Market
Thanks for your input and your phone call Michael. We are slowly adding
more Mac titles to our array as demand increases. You should see an
updated listing soon of just Mac titles.
Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2408
To: ALL Date: 09/02/93 8:15p
Subj: NEWEST SHAREWARE CD!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
| Starvector Sales Bulletin #6: HOT NEW CD-ROM! |
| Title: SHAREWARE ONLINE #2 | | Price: $37 |
This outstanding new CD is the ABSOLUTE NEWEST and MOST
UP-TO-DATE shareware CD available! All files are dated 1993 with the
exception of five program sets, giving you a full array of late-release
shareware, dated between January and August 1993!
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 2409
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/04/93 1:02a
Subj: Re: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE> cheaper for you to get
LR> RE> caddies than it is for the average user....
LR>
LR> Perhaps. Margins are pretty slim on that sort of thing.
RE> Current Aussie prices (retail, not special deals, etc)
RE> for a single caddy
RE> is around $A15.00 to $A20.00. This is the price if you walk into any
RE> computer store that stocks them and ask to buy a caddy.....
Here in the U.S. at least, one can also walk to the shelf of that self
same computer store and buy a box of 1.44M floppies for the wonderful price of
US$15. Only a fool (or someone in an emergency) buys commodity items at that
sort of place. Caddies can be easily gotten off the shelf in several of our
local discount warehouses for US$4 in packs of ten.
RE> I believe that the viewpoint is a realistic one.... Especially when you
RE> talk to a user that says that he will have 1500 odd machines with CD-ROM
RE> drives in them... Having 2 or 3 CD-ROMs in separate caddies adds (at
RE> best $A15.00 - cheapest price I've seen for caddies is $A5.00) then
RE> multiply this by 1500, comes to $A22,500.00 additional.... the worst
RE> case makes this figure around $A70,000.00..... these are not
RE> insubstantial amounts to do what you recommend....
Neither is the cost of replacing 200 or so CD-ROM titles a year due to
damage. Furthermore, this represents a capital expenditure, always easier to
justify than an operating expense (which replacing damaged goods would be). In
addition, the time saved in not having to have several hundred emp[loyees
fiddle with caddy-less units can be substantial.
RE> And we then come back to the fact that show an "average" user a CD-ROM
RE> drive with a caddy and a CD-ROM drive without a caddy and the user will,
RE> 9 times out of 10 select the non-caddy drive.....
This is supposed to impress me? The one COMMODITY that is never in
short supply is ignorance.
RE> My own personal loathing for caddies dates back to 1989 and a CD-ROM
RE> drive (I think it was a Philips) with a "claw" type caddy that, although
RE> it looked universal was a "this side up" type caddy.... The trauma that
RE> this drive inflicted was such that I vowed *NEVER* to buy a CD-ROM
RE> drive with a caddy....
One poor implementation (or perhaps just a bad unit) does not an
engineering mistake make. The fact that you had a bad CD-ROM in no way
reflects on the performance of CD-ROM's or any associated equipment.
Les
Les
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From: JEFF WEISS Number: 2410
To: ALL Date: 09/03/93 11:09p
Subj: Write your own CD! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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From: LEE WINSOR Number: 2411
To: ALL Date: 09/02/93 2:37p
Subj: Shareware Explorer - 4 pa Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
@SUBJECT:Shareware Explorer - 4 pack N
S H A R E W A R E E X P L O R E R - 4 V O L U M E S E T
1 September, 1993
New Frontiers CD-ROMS, of New Hartford, CT. announces the release of
their new "Shareware Explorer" 4 disc Shareware Collection on
CD-ROM. This CD-ROM disc collection contains over 26,000 archived
files and nearly 2.4 gigabytes of compressed shareware and public
domain software for the Microsoft Windows, OS/2, and DOS
environments. Choose among thousands of utilities to improve the
performance and productivity of your daily tasks.
For the Windows enthusiast, one of the four discs has 7,000 Windows
files including thousands of ICONS and wallpaper bitmaps; nearly
1,200 fonts, including ATM, Postscript, and Truetype variations to
add to your applications. Almost 1000 games, amusements, and sound
files are available for family leisure times. Windows Word
processing macros and add-ons; Communications programs and tools;
Source code and tools for programming in Actor, C, Toolbook, Visual
Basic, Turbo Pascal, and many others rounds out the vast selection
in this Windows CD-ROM library. PCBoard and files.bbs files are
included for BBS operators. All files are fully virus tested.
For the DOS enthusiast, there are nearly 19,000 shareware files on
the 3 DOS related CD-ROMS. Organized into 70 different topical
areas including: Music, Business, Hobbies, Personal & Business
Finance, Text & Word Processing, Ham Radio, Cooking, health &
Fitness, Desktop Publishing, Database, Games, and thousands of other
applications and Utilities. Large collection of Source/Tools for C,
BASIC, PASCAL, and others. DOS Volume #1 is the best of 90/91 and
has 8,500 files; DOS Volume #2 is all 1992 files and a few early 93;
DOS Volume #3 is mostly 1993, with a few late 1992 additions to the
collection. No files in this collection are older than 1990.
This four volume CD-ROM collection is designed for the serious DOS
and Windows enthusiast as well as the novice user. There are no GIF
file, Unprotects, or Game cheats used to fill out space on our
products. We provide only carefully selected Business,
Professional, and Technical files, along with a smattering of
Personal Development and Family related files for your enjoyment.
There are less than 1% duplicates or older versions of programs
across all 4 CD-ROM volumes.
An easy to use access program allows for easy viewing of our
extensive encyclopedia of file descriptions. Key words search
capabilities improve your ability to quickly locate topics of
interest. Once a file description is located, the corresponding
archive file can be easily viewed and the documentation read without
leaving the current screen. It may then be copied or unarchived
into a temporary work space on your hard drive for later
installation or testing. Those of you who have fumbled with other
CD-ROM access software will find this one as easy as 'ABC'.
Included on the CD-ROM are pre-formatted print files in Alphabetic
and Date sorted order, as well as our handy reference booklet which
may be printed out and added to your own library.
S H A R E W A R E E X P L O R E R - 4 V O L U M E S E T
The hottest selling CD-ROM at this years ONE BBSCON!
John Dvorak, of PC magazine picked one up and said:
"Wow, I've never seen a four pack CD-ROM like this
before... This is nice!"
Available through your favorite CD-ROM dealer at competitive prices.
Contact: The MARKETplace 1-800-289-1ROM for dealer information.
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From: JAMES BROOKS Number: 2412
To: KEN TULLY Date: 08/31/93 6:46p
Subj: Re: Busty Ver. 1.0 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Ken !
In a message of 19-Aug-93 you wrote:
KT> I have a copy of Busty Babes Version 1.0 for sale to the Highest
I will give you $20 + s/h.
James "Alex" Brooks
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From: KEN HARVEY Number: 2413
To: DAVE REED Date: 09/03/93 10:03a
Subj: Re: MANPOWER - NEW GAY CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DR> JS>> oh boy, that's excellent <G> "fags on disc"
DR>
DR> GP> It may not be your "thing", but hey, why shouldn't it be available to
DR> GP> those who might be interested? A little bit of tolerance, please, for
DR> GP> people whose interests might be different than your own.
DR>
DR> We do NOT have to tolerate immoral behavior. No one should.
Well, that just shows a bit of prejudice. With the medical community really
drifting toward accepting homosexuality as a medical problem rather than a
learned behavior it would be wise to change or atleast re-evaluate your
opinion. You would not get mad at someone because they had cancer would
you? THen why not think that in a world with 5.5 billion people that there
can't be a disease, a defect at birth that makes them different! But,
since this is straying from the CD-ROM topic we better cool it.
Moderator - Sorry about that it just deserved a reply.
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From: KEN HARVEY Number: 2414
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/03/93 10:08a
Subj: Re: SHAREWARE AND CDS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BF> We have a "disc of the month" club around NOW for CD-ROMs - I saw their
BF> literature at the One BBS Con....
There is PSL disk out of Houston Texas, and they have a Shareware disk of
the month with about 350 megs on it for $19.95.
(PSL=Public software library)
Ken Harvey
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From: ROBERT POWELL Number: 2415
To: ERIC ESKAM Date: 09/04/93 3:25a
Subj: Cd-Rom Help Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
EE>RP>could by an optional 20 dollar controller to use the Panasonic wit
EE>Problem: I currently have it without drivers. Know where I can get
EE>easily? the ROM is a CR-523-B with the seperate 8 bit controller.
EE>
EE>And, bonus question: Do OS/2 drivers exist for this combo, or just wh
EE>used with the SoundBlaster?
EE>
EE>Thanks in advance
EE>Eric
The Creative Labs BBS has the latest drivers for use with the Panasonic
CDROM's to include OS2. I suspect these will only work if you are using
a sound blaster product as the controller. Their number is
(405)742-6660. I don't know how good the OS2 drivers are as I haven't
felt the need to switch from my DOS 6, QEMM 7.01 and windows
combination. I not convinced that OS2 is the way to go but then I
haven't had the problems with windows that other people seem to
experience.
I haven't seen drivers for the 8 bit controllers on any BBS's I
frequent. MPS multimedia (page 569 of the September Computer Shopper)
offers the Panasonic with the 8 bit controller so I'm sure they would
make you a deal on the drivers for DOS (and OS2 if it exists) for the 8
bit controller. One last thing to consider is that I have heard that
the Panasonic drives perform better with the sound blaster used as the
controller but I can't substantiate this as I have only used the
CR-562-B with my SB16 ASP.
Hope this helps.
Bob
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From: ROBERT POWELL Number: 2416
To: STEVE WON Date: 09/04/93 8:14a
Subj: PANASONIC CR562B Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SW>Being 320 ms access time with 300 kb/s is obviously better than the
SW>Mitsumi and they are in a similar price range. Using Norton Speed ca
SW>may help things also. Is there any disadvantage to the slide out tra
SW>rather than a caddy system? Has anyone had any compatibility problem
SW>with this drive?
Generally, data on a CD is accessed sequentially. The difference
between 320ms and 200ms is not as great as it might seem. After all it
is only just a little over 1/10 of one second per access.
As for the caddy there are two sides to the question. If you have a
caddy drive and you purchase a caddy for each CD you purchase (an added
expense of at least $5.00 per CD) you will only handle the CD
directly once, when you place it in the caddy and you minimize the
possibility of damaging the disk. On the other hand if you are like me
and have invested several thousand dollars in your computer equipment
you will probably treat it very delicately and will most likely never
damage one of your CD's inserting it in and out of a CDROM with a
motorized tray. In the seven years I have been purchasing music CDs
using portable and car CD players I have yet to trash my first CD. You
know how you are going to use your computer so you have to decide for
yourself.
Using Mayo Clinic, Street Atlas USA, Atlas Pack 3, PC-Sig library 11,
and the 7th Guest, I have not ran into any problems. As we all know,
system setups and computer hardware, along with their associated
gremlins, very greatly from system to system so I can't guarantee that
you will have the same success I have had.
SW>Can anyone tell me if updated drivers would be obtained from Panasoni
SW>or Creative Labs? I hear that this drive was a joint venture between
SW>the two companies. I also read that a program is not included to pla
SW>music CD's with this drive. Is that correct? If so, can any ole
SW>program that plays music CD's on other drives be compatible?
Current drivers can be obtained from the Creative Labs BBS, even for
OS2. I suspect these drivers will only work using Sound Blaster cards
as the driver. I do not know if they will work with the separate 8 bit
controllers. Since it is not particularly likely that I'll scrap my
$229 SB16 ASP card any time in the near future, it doesn't make much
difference to me.
The sound blaster cards come with programs to play music CDs. I also
use a generic program called CDDB to play music CD's under windows so I
expect that other generic programs would work without any problems.
SW>Also what sort of RAM is needed to load the drivers for the Panasonic
SW>Is the size comparable to the other drives? I assume that it will be
SW>able to be loaded into high memory.
I use QEMM 7.01 to load the Sound Blaster Driver in high memory and it
takes 11K. This compares to around 20k to load the Mitsumi driver high.
Add to this another 16K to load MSCDEX high, which all CDROM's need to
communicate with DOS.
I have no hesitations in recommending these drives to anyone, especially
if you already own a sound blaster card with controller. They offer
allot of performance for the cost. Hope this helps.
Bob
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From: WILLIAM T. MCCLAIN Number: 2417
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/04/93 2:08a
Subj: CD ROM Received Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi, Mike just wanted to tell you that I have received the Mayo Clinic CD
that you sent to replace the Family Doctor CD I returned to you.
... Thanks, Mac in Tampa. FL
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From: RONALD LEON Number: 2418
To: RICHARD POUNCY Date: 09/04/93 10:34a
Subj: CD-ROM disk cache Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Richard Pouncy beamed onto the Enterprise and said:
RP>DS> Does anyone out there know of a good disk cache for a
RP>DS> CD-ROM?
RP>
RP>Try HyperDisk by HyperWare. So far it has been great.
What??
As far as I know, Hyperdisk does NOT cash CD's. What version are you
using? What parameter specifies the cd rom drive? I have version 4.5 and
it does NOT do cd rom drives.
Ron
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From: RONALD LEON Number: 2419
To: AL KOLLER Date: 09/04/93 10:50a
Subj: OS/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Al Koller beamed onto the Enterprise and said:
AK>Hi Ron. The OS/2 update package is available to anyone with a previou
AK>version of OS/2 OR any prior DOS....
IBM says otherwise.
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From: PETER LASNE Number: 2420
To: MICHAEL KESSLER Date: 09/03/93 11:20a
Subj: AMIGA CD ROM.. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
There are two execellent choices but you will probably want to wait a
couple of monthes if possible. The first is CD32 which should be
released here in America from Commodore very soon. Basically it is a
CDTV but with a Dual-Speed CDROM and an Amiga 1200 motherboard. The
cost is around $300.00, and for that you get a CDROM with a 68020 CPU
and a couple of meg of Chip RAM, etc. The second choice is to buy the
next generation of CDROMs from Commodore. They are for the 2000, 3000,
4000, 1200 computers and are Dual-Speed. They haven't been released yet
either, but they shouldn't be too far off. If you need something now,
Commodore's solution is to buy a CDTV and network it. Possibly you
might even try disecting an A500 CDROM and use it in the 2000?
Peter Lasne
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From: TIM N. TASHPULATOV Number: 2421
To: RICK BYERS Date: 08/30/93 12:39a
Subj: Audio CDs on CD-ROMs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Rick!
18 August 93, Wednesday 21:18, Rick Byers wrote to All:
RB> Does anyone know where I can get some good text files or a book
RB> that would tell me how I can Instruct the CD-ROM drive to play an audio
RB> CD? I have programs that will do it but I'd like to expand on these and
RB> have had troubles telling MSCDEX to play it. Well thanks alot, Rick Byers
RB> --- SuperBBS 1.17-3 (Reg)
RB> The Prime Directive, ZyXEL 19.2, Node *1 (416)382-3446
RB> (1:247/301)
Maybe it is not what you relly want, but I use to play my audio CDs under
WINDOWS via MediaPlayer - just set up your CD-ROM driver!
Tim
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From: ALEXANDER ANDREYEV Number: 2422
To: ALL Date: 09/01/93 3:06p
Subj: Wanted: cheap used CDROM disks.... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello dear All!
Big troubles in Russia now: I have only one CDROM disk!
I need several subjs
Topic: MS DOS/WINDOWS/UNIX/programming, database, info, books, music.
Yours Alexander
andreyev@softjoys.sbp.su
2:5030/69 ;-)
Varshavsky str. 50, app. 17
196128, St.Petersburg, Russia
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From: CHRIS FLYNN Number: 2423
To: TONY DAVIS Date: 08/18/93 10:14p
Subj: SHAREWARE CD ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> STORM II STORM III
TD> I have to tell you that this is one dangerous ad.
Depends where you live.
TD> On July 20th, I was arrested and booked on charges of sale &
TD> possession of obscene material. My BBS & all related hardware was
TD> seized. If found guilty, I am facing up to 15 years in jail and/or up
TD> to $25,000 in fines.
This is really sad. You have my best wishes.
... Would you fly in an airliner built by the lowest bidder?
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From: CHRIS FLYNN Number: 2424
To: ANDY MORRISON Date: 08/20/93 8:15a
Subj: Panasonic cd-rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AM> I've been offered a new PANASONIC twin speed CDROM with 16bit sound
AM> card, speakers, "The 7th Guest", "Dune" plus 5 other cd titles for
AM> £499.00
You could buy the hardware quoted for about £360 inc VAT. It really
depends on whether you think the bundled discs are worth the extra.
... Don't hate yourself in the morning--sleep till noon.
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From: PADDY DRURY Number: 2425
To: ALL Date: 08/21/93 4:48a
Subj: lotus 1 2 3 cdrom sale / swap Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have for sale / swap the lotus 123 'speaking' cd
still wrapped in plastic / unregistered
Price 100 pound / 5 good shareware cd's
I live in Kent U.K.
regards
paddy
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From: ANDY MORRISON Number: 2426
To: ALL Date: 08/25/93 10:44p
Subj: CD-rom Shareware Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi folks!
Sorry for dropping in on the echo but I need some help!
This has probably been asked a thousand times or more but as I am new I ain't
read any of the older messages!
I am looking for shareware for ma wee bbs! They require the "files.bbs"
directory.
Can anyone help me out??
I'm based in Scotland (that's the bit on top of England by the way..) so any
UK or Euro distributor would be handy.
Many thanks again
Andy Morrison
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From: RICHARD MAYCOCK Number: 2427
To: PAUL SZUDZIK Date: 08/26/93 2:00p
Subj: Re: BEST CDROM LIST Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thanks for the response, same as last time, yours is all I got. I may try
your idea when I have the time, but frankly, the interest is so low as
to make it unlikly to work
All the best,
Richard.
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From: RON ORNSTEDT Number: 2428
To: ELIZABETH RODIER Date: 08/27/93 5:17p
Subj: Re: Cookbooks On Cd Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Elizabeth Rodier to All <=-
ER> Has anyone tried using the Colossal Cookbook CD or the new ones
ER> called Electronic Cookbook and Cookbook Heaven? Do they have any
ER> pictures or just zipped files from a cooking echo?
Colossal cookbook is a collection of zips. It has things like menu master
and a bunch of other menu and recipe programs. I was not impressed. I was
hoping for a menu driven/windowed interface with tons of recipes online.
Not with colossal cookbook though, unless I missed something.
Ron
... "If you can't make it good, make it LOOK good." - B Gates
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 2429
To: BOB HALL Date: 08/17/93 8:20p
Subj: Re: MAC CD'S Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
checker available.
;
STYLEWRI.ZIP STYLEWRI.ZIP StyleWriter, the plain English Editor.
!>Check and improve your writing style, WordPerfect,
!>WrodStar, MultiMate etc. compatible. UNZIP to a
!>sub-directory and "MONO" (for MONO) or "DEMO" (colour).
;
CORELDRW.ZIP CORELDRW.ZIP CorelDRAW 3.0 for Windows Demo.
!>UNZIP the file to a DSHD diskette and enter "A:\INSTALL".
!>This is probably THE best DOS drawing package.
;
;DaVinci eMAIL for Netware LAN's Demo, TestDrive Kit v2.01,
EMINTL_1.ZIP EMINTL_1.ZIP Install disk, Volume label is "EMINTL_1"
EMINTL_2.ZIP EMINTL_2.ZIP Disk 1, label is "EMINTL_2", Needs HD disk.
EMINTL_3.ZIP EMINTL_3.ZIP Disk 2, label is "EMINTL_3", this demo
!>needs to have Netware running when installing. The LAN
!>drive where you place email need the same letter MAP for
!>every user. Use SYSCON to create a new group containing
!>only the users who will use this TestDrive, 8 chars per
!>username. Needs min of 500k free on each workstation.
;
BT-DEMO.ZIP BT-DEMO.ZIP BT (British Telecom) Demo of it's online
!>services, very good. UNZIP to sub-directory named BISDEMO
!>and enter "BISDEMO". Accessable sfrom Ireland.
;
DEMOECHO.ZIP DEMOECHO.ZIP Offline demo/tutorial for ECHO
!>the European Commission Host Organisation.
;
WIN-BASE.ZIP WIN-BASE.ZIP WindowBase Version 1 Rolling Demo.
!>From SPI, UNZIP to a sub-directory WBDEMO and enter
!>"WBDEMO". Windows database. Windows not req'd.
;
MAP-BASE.ZIP MAP-BASE.ZIP MapBase Ver 5 from NextBase Ltd.
!>UNZIP file in a sub-directory using "-d"
;
AUTOROOT.ZIP AUTOROOT.ZIP AutoRoot Plus 5 Rolling Demo, EGA.
!>Root planners, for drivers, haulage companies etc.
!>UNZIP to a sub-directory named ARPDEMO and enter "DEMO".
;
SKETCH3.ZIP SKETCH3.ZIP AutoSketch Demo, Entry level CAD
!>system from AutoDesk. Needs EGA or better. UNZIP the
!>files to a DSDD (720k) diskette and enter "A:\INSTALL".
;
CADD5.ZIP CADD5.ZIP Generic CADD Demo, CAD system like AutoCad
!>Produced by AutoDesk. EGA or better req'd. UNZIP to a
!>DSDD diskette and enter "A:\INSTALL". Very good!
;
IDEALIST.ZIP IDEALIST.ZIP From Blackwell Scientific, Demo
!>for Windows. UNZIP to DSDD diskette and run SETUP.EXE
!>from the program manager. Text retreival & manipulation.
;
ZYINDEX5.ZIP ZYINDEX5.ZIP ZyINDEX 5.0 - the fastest, most powerful
!>information/document retrieval system for PC's & LANs.
!>UNZIP files to DSHD diskette and select Run from the
!>Windows file menu in Program Manager and enter either
!>"A:Setup" or "B:Setup", see readme file.
;
RTDEMO.ZIP RTDEMO.ZIP RTKernel 3.0 Demo/Info
!>For C and Pascal programmers.
;
C-SCAPE.ZIP C-SCAPE.ZIP C-Scape with Look & Feel Ver 4.0 Demo
!>for DOS. Of interest to C developers on all platforms.
!>UNZIP to DSDD diskette and enter "A:\INSTALL"
;
VE-VIEWS.ZIP VE-VIEWS.ZIP Vermont Views with Designer, demo
!>of programming tool for user interface development under
!>C langauge. Demo. UNZIP to a sub-directory.
;
GARDEN.ZIP GARDEN.ZIP Demo of GARDEN MANAGER Pro,
!>UNZIP files to a DSDD disk in A: and enter "DEMO"
!>(or UNZIP to a sub-directory).
;
ABC-IO.ZIP ABC-IO.ZIP ABC Flowcharter and Instant ORGcharting
!>Demo from Roderick Manhattan Group. UNZIP files to a
!>DSDD diskette in A: and enter "SETUP"
;
ORIGIN.ZIP ORIGIN.ZIP Scientific & Technical Graphics in Windows
!>UNZIP file (using -d to keep sub-directory format) to a
!>DSHD diskette and then from Windows run "A:setup".
;
DRAFIX.ZIP DRAFIX.ZIP Drafix Windows CAD demo.
!>need Windows 3.0/3.1. UNZIP files to a DSHD diskette
!>and change to "A:" prompt and enter "INSTALL".
;
WINCMS-4.ZIP WINCMS-4.ZIP Communicate WINCMS, V4.00,
!>Fax system for Windows 3.0 & 3.1.
!>Enter "A:\WINSTALL" to install or remove.
;
MATCAD31.ZIP MATCAD31.ZIP Mathcad 3.1 Demo - Windows 3.x
!>For installation: Unzip files to a 1.44mb diskette,
!>change prompt to "A:", then enter "INSTALL". You
!>need Windows to be able to run this demo.
;
EXTRADEM.ZIP EXTRADEM.ZIP EXTRA! 3270 for DOS & Windows
!>Demo disk from Attachmate for 3270 Emulation. Unzip to
!>a sub-directory and enter "DEMO".
;
DELTA52E.ZIP DELTA52E.ZIP Delta 5.2e Database Demo, VERY good
!>extract files to a sub-directory and enter "DEMO"
!>Delta is a very powerful relational database system.
;
DBASE3.ZIP DBASE3.ZIP dBASE III Demo & Presentation program.
!>UNZIP into a sub-directory and away with you....
;
DESIGNER.ZIP DESIGNER.ZIP MicroGrafx Designer 3.0 Rolling Demo.
!>Drawing / Graphics etc. Full program needs Windows.
!>extract files to a sub-directory and enter "DEMO"
;
;Pegasus Accounts & other software...
;
PEGWIN.ZIP PEGWIN.ZIP Pegasus for WINDOWS Demo ! enter "SHOW"
PEGWIN2.ZIP PEGWIN2.ZIP PEGASUS for Windows software, fully working
!>evaluation copy, 150 record limit. See README.TXT file.
!>UNZIP to 3½" DSHD diskette and then run INSTALL.
!>NOTE: Set your system date to 25 Nov 92 for this to work.
PEGNOTE.ZIP PEGNOTE.ZIP Nice demo of TSR that runs "behind"
!>Pegasus Junior and is called up via Hot-Key. You can keep
!>notes attached to A/C numbers or Stock References &
!>re-call them "on the fly" etc. Very good.
!>NB - Backup you Pegasus data before using!!!
CASH-PEG.ZIP CASH-PEG.ZIP PegLink UK Pegasus Cashbook demo
SALES-PG.ZIP SALES-PG.ZIP PegLink UK Pegasus add-on demo.
;
; ***** SEE OTHER PEGASUS UTILS IN THE SYSOP's LIBRARY *****
;
;
;Sage Accounting and other software...
;
SOVREIGN.ZIP SOVREIGN.ZIP Sage Sovereign Demo program,
!>UNZIP files to a sub-directory and enter "SOVREIGN".
STERLING.ZIP STERLING.ZIP Sage Sterling Demo, UNZIP to
!>a sub-directory and enter "SAGEDEMO".
SAGE2.ZIP SAGE2.ZIP SAGE Serling +2 Demo, UNZIP in
!>a sub-directory as "UNZIP SAGE2.ZIP -d"
;
ASQ.ZIP ASQ.ZIP ASQ Ver 1.30 A complimentary evaluation program
!>& memory management tutorial. Qualitas Software Inc.
;
ACT-DOS.ZIP ACT-DOS.ZIP ACT! for DOS demo.
ACT-WIN.ZIP ACT-WIN.ZIP ACT! for Windows demo,
!>unzip file and enter "ACTDEMO". This is a Windows
!>based contact manager / diary system.
;
CONTACTS.ZIP CONTACTS.ZIP Contact Manager v3.1, trial version
!>of what is an essential software program for anyone who
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To: BOB HALL Date: 08/17/93 8:20p
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!>deals with people and/or those who organise events.
!>The BEST non-Windows, TSR organiser available !
;
BINDVIEW.ZIP BINDVIEW.ZIP BindView Plus Ver 3.0c Rolling Demo.
!>For management of Netware/LAN User information
;
SSDEMO.ZIP SSDEMO.ZIP Lotus SmartSuite Demo. program, to install
!>unzip the files in a subdirectory and enter "DEMO".
!>Needs a min. of 450k RAM and VGA, Windows.
;
LOTUSTUT.ZIP LOTUSTUT.ZIP Lotus 1-2-3 Tutorial Program, copy
!>files to a sub-directory and enter GOLOTUS or
!>GOLOTUSP (for PS/2's).
;
PASTUTOR.ZIP PASTUTOR.ZIP Good Turbo Pascal Language tutorial.
;
PDESIGN2.ZIP PDESIGN2.ZIP ProDesign II Rolling Demo, to use
!>enter SETUP and then PDDEMO (ie. after UNZIPPING).
;
DCAD3D.ZIP DCAD3D.ZIP DesignCad 3D Ver 2.1 Demo Slide Show
!>Copy files to hard disk and enter GO
;
DW5-DEMO.ZIP DW5-DEMO.ZIP Demo of IBM's DisplayWrite 5 WP software,
!>copy files to a sub-directory and enter "DW5"
;
WP51-WIN.ZIP WP51-WIN.ZIP Word Perfect 5.1 for Windows ! demo.
;
TLDEMO.ZIP TLDEMO.ZIP TimeLine Project Management Demo.
!>from Symantec Corp. GANTT charts etc.
;
TF312.ZIP TF312.ZIP *NEW* version Telix Tutor / Help setup
;
;If some files are too big for you to download (maybe you don't have a high
;speed modem) you may leave an email message for the SYSOP and the file can
;be sent out on diskette for only a nominal charge......
;
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From: ROY COCHRUN Number: 2431
To: CARLOS BENITZ Date: 08/18/93 6:19a
Subj: Re: BEST CDROM LIST Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
on each workstation.
;
BT-DEMO.ZIP BT-DEMO.ZIP BT (British Telecom) Demo of it's online
!>services, very good. UNZIP to sub-directory named BISDEMO
!>and enter "BISDEMO". Accessable sfrom Ireland.
;
DEMOECHO.ZIP DEMOECHO.ZIP Offline demo/tutorial for ECHO
!>the European Commission Host Organisation.
;
WIN-BASE.ZIP WIN-BASE.ZIP WindowBase Version 1 Rolling Demo.
!>From SPI, UNZIP to a sub-directory WBDEMO and enter
!>"WBDEMO". Windows database. Windows not req'd.
;
MAP-BASE.ZIP MAP-BASE.ZIP MapBase Ver 5 from NextBase Ltd.
!>UNZIP file in a sub-directory using "-d"
;
AUTOROOT.ZIP AUTOROOT.ZIP AutoRoot Plus 5 Rolling Demo, EGA.
!>Root planners, for drivers, haulage companies etc.
!>UNZIP to a sub-directory named ARPDEMO and enter "DEMO".
;
SKETCH3.ZIP SKETCH3.ZIP AutoSketch Demo, Entry level CAD
!>system from AutoDesk. Needs EGA or better. UNZIP the
!>files to a DSDD (720k) diskette and enter "A:\INSTALL".
;
CADD5.ZIP CADD5.ZIP Generic CADD Demo, CAD system like AutoCad
!>Produced by AutoDesk. EGA or better req'd. UNZIP to a
!>DSDD diskette and enter "A:\INSTALL". Very good!
;
IDEALIST.ZIP IDEALIST.ZIP From Blackwell Scientific, Demo
!>for Windows. UNZIP to DSDD diskette and run SETUP.EXE
!>from the program manager. Text retreival & manipulation.
;
ZYINDEX5.ZIP ZYINDEX5.ZIP ZyINDEX 5.0 - the fastest, most powerful
!>information/document retrieval system for PC's & LANs.
!>UNZIP files to DSHD diskette and select Run from the
!>Windows file menu in Program Manager and enter either
!>"A:Setup" or "B:Setup", see readme file.
;
RTDEMO.ZIP RTDEMO.ZIP RTKernel 3.0 Demo/Info
!>For C and Pascal programmers.
;
C-SCAPE.ZIP C-SCAPE.ZIP C-Scape with Look & Feel Ver 4.0 Demo
!>for DOS. Of interest to C developers on all platforms.
!>UNZIP to DSDD diskette and enter "A:\INSTALL"
;
VE-VIEWS.ZIP VE-VIEWS.ZIP Vermont Views with Designer, demo
!>of programming tool for user interface development under
!>C langauge. Demo. UNZIP to a sub-directory.
;
GARDEN.ZIP GARDEN.ZIP Demo of GARDEN MANAGER Pro,
!>UNZIP files to a DSDD disk in A: and enter "DEMO"
!>(or UNZIP to a sub-directory).
;
ABC-IO.ZIP ABC-IO.ZIP ABC Flowcharter and Instant ORGcharting
!>Demo from Roderick Manhattan Group. UNZIP files to a
!>DSDD diskette in A: and enter "SETUP"
;
ORIGIN.ZIP ORIGIN.ZIP Scientific & Technical Graphics in Windows
!>UNZIP file (using -d to keep sub-directory format) to a
!>DSHD diskette and then from Windows run "A:setup".
;
DRAFIX.ZIP DRAFIX.ZIP Drafix Windows CAD demo.
!>need Windows 3.0/3.1. UNZIP files to a DSHD diskette
!>and change to "A:" prompt and enter "INSTALL".
;
WINCMS-4.ZIP WINCMS-4.ZIP Communicate WINCMS, V4.00,
!>Fax system for Windows 3.0 & 3.1.
!>Enter "A:\WINSTALL" to install or remove.
;
MATCAD31.ZIP MATCAD31.ZIP Mathcad 3.1 Demo - Windows 3.x
!>For installation: Unzip files to a 1.44mb diskette,
!>change prompt to "A:", then enter "INSTALL". You
!>need Windows to be able to run this demo.
;
EXTRADEM.ZIP EXTRADEM.ZIP EXTRA! 3270 for DOS & Windows
!>Demo disk from Attachmate for 3270 Emulation. Unzip to
!>a sub-directory and enter "DEMO".
;
DELTA52E.ZIP DELTA52E.ZIP Delta 5.2e Database Demo, VERY good
!>extract files to a sub-directory and enter "DEMO"
!>Delta is a very powerful relational database system.
;
DBASE3.ZIP DBASE3.ZIP dBASE III Demo & Presentation program.
!>UNZIP into a sub-directory and away with you....
;
DESIGNER.ZIP DESIGNER.ZIP MicroGrafx Designer 3.0 Rolling Demo.
!>Drawing / Graphics etc. Full program needs Windows.
!>extract files to a sub-directory and enter "DEMO"
;
;Pegasus Accounts & other software...
;
PEGWIN.ZIP PEGWIN.ZIP Pegasus for WINDOWS Demo ! enter "SHOW"
PEGWIN2.ZIP PEGWIN2.ZIP PEGASUS for Windows software, fully working
!>evaluation copy, 150 record limit. See README.TXT file.
!>UNZIP to 3½" DSHD diskette and then run INSTALL.
!>NOTE: Set your system date to 25 Nov 92 for this to work.
PEGNOTE.ZIP PEGNOTE.ZIP Nice demo of TSR that runs "behind"
!>Pegasus Junior and is called up via Hot-Key. You can keep
!>notes attached to A/C numbers or Stock References &
!>re-call them "on the fly" etc. Very good.
!>NB - Backup you Pegasus data before using!!!
CASH-PEG.ZIP CASH-PEG.ZIP PegLink UK Pegasus Cashbook demo
SALES-PG.ZIP SALES-PG.ZIP PegLink UK Pegasus add-on demo.
;
; ***** SEE OTHER PEGASUS UTILS IN THE SYSOP's LIBRARY *****
;
;
;Sage Accounting and other software...
;
SOVREIGN.ZIP SOVREIGN.ZIP Sage Sovereign Demo program,
!>UNZIP files to a sub-directory and enter "SOVREIGN".
STERLING.ZIP STERLING.ZIP Sage Sterling Demo, UNZIP to
!>a sub-directory and enter "SAGEDEMO".
SAGE2.ZIP SAGE2.ZIP SAGE Serling +2 Demo, UNZIP in
!>a sub-directory as "UNZIP SAGE2.ZIP -d"
;
ASQ.ZIP ASQ.ZIP ASQ Ver 1.30 A complimentary evaluation program
!>& memory management tutorial. Qualitas Software Inc.
;
ACT-DOS.ZIP ACT-DOS.ZIP ACT! for DOS demo.
ACT-WIN.ZIP ACT-WIN.ZIP ACT! for Windows demo,
!>unzip file and enter "ACTDEMO". This is a Windows
!>based contact manager / diary system.
;
CONTACTS.ZIP CONTACTS.ZIP Contact Manager v3.1, trial version
!>of what is an essential software program for anyone who
!>deals with people and/or those who organise events.
!>The BEST non-Windows, TSR organiser available !
;
BINDVIEW.ZIP BINDVIEW.ZIP BindView Plus Ver 3.0c Rolling Demo.
!>For management of Netware/LAN User information
;
SSDEMO.ZIP SSDEMO.ZIP Lotus SmartSuite Demo. program, to install
!>unzip the files in a subdirectory and enter "DEMO".
!>Needs a min. of 450k RAM and VGA, Windows.
;
LOTUSTUT.ZIP LOTUSTUT.ZIP Lotus 1-2-3 Tutorial Program, copy
!>files to a sub-directory and enter GOLOTUS or
!>GOLOTUSP (for PS/2's).
;
PASTUTOR.ZIP PASTUTOR.ZIP Good Turbo Pascal Language tutorial.
;
PDESIGN2.ZIP PDESIGN2.ZIP ProDesign II Rolling Demo, to use
!>enter SETUP and then PDDEMO (ie. after UNZIPPING).
;
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From: ROY COCHRUN Number: 2432
To: CARLOS BENITZ Date: 08/18/93 6:19a
Subj: Re: BEST CDROM LIST Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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DCAD3D.ZIP DCAD3D.ZIP DesignCad 3D Ver 2.1 Demo Slide Show
!>Copy files to hard disk and enter GO
;
DW5-DEMO.ZIP DW5-DEMO.ZIP Demo of IBM's DisplayWrite 5 WP software,
!>copy files to a sub-directory and enter "DW5"
;
WP51-WIN.ZIP WP51-WIN.ZIP Word Perfect 5.1 for Windows ! demo.
;
TLDEMO.ZIP TLDEMO.ZIP TimeLine Project Management Demo.
!>from Symantec Corp. GANTT charts etc.
;
TF312.ZIP TF312.ZIP *NEW* version Telix Tutor / Help setup
;
;If some files are too big for you to download (maybe you don't have a high
;speed modem) you may leave an email message for the SYSOP and the file can
;be sent out on diskette for only a nominal charge......
;
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From: DENNIS STERNER Number: 2433
To: ALL Date: 08/18/93 1:00p
Subj: SONY PLAYER FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Scape with Look & Feel Ver 4.0 Demo
!>for DOS. Of interest to C developers on all platforms.
!>UNZIP to DSDD diskette and enter "A:\INSTALL"
;
VE-VIEWS.ZIP VE-VIEWS.ZIP Vermont Views with Designer, demo
!>of programming tool for user interface development under
!>C langauge. Demo. UNZIP to a sub-directory.
;
GARDEN.ZIP GARDEN.ZIP Demo of GARDEN MANAGER Pro,
!>UNZIP files to a DSDD disk in A: and enter "DEMO"
!>(or UNZIP to a sub-directory).
;
ABC-IO.ZIP ABC-IO.ZIP ABC Flowcharter and Instant ORGcharting
!>Demo from Roderick Manhattan Group. UNZIP files to a
!>DSDD diskette in A: and enter "SETUP"
;
ORIGIN.ZIP ORIGIN.ZIP Scientific & Technical Graphics in Windows
!>UNZIP file (using -d to keep sub-directory format) to a
!>DSHD diskette and then from Windows run "A:setup".
;
DRAFIX.ZIP DRAFIX.ZIP Drafix Windows CAD demo.
!>need Windows 3.0/3.1. UNZIP files to a DSHD diskette
!>and change to "A:" prompt and enter "INSTALL".
;
WINCMS-4.ZIP WINCMS-4.ZIP Communicate WINCMS, V4.00,
!>Fax system for Windows 3.0 & 3.1.
!>Enter "A:\WINSTALL" to install or remove.
;
MATCAD31.ZIP MATCAD31.ZIP Mathcad 3.1 Demo - Windows 3.x
!>For installation: Unzip files to a 1.44mb diskette,
!>change prompt to "A:", then enter "INSTALL". You
!>need Windows to be able to run this demo.
;
EXTRADEM.ZIP EXTRADEM.ZIP EXTRA! 3270 for DOS & Windows
!>Demo disk from Attachmate for 3270 Emulation. Unzip to
!>a sub-directory and enter "DEMO".
;
DELTA52E.ZIP DELTA52E.ZIP Delta 5.2e Database Demo, VERY good
!>extract files to a sub-directory and enter "DEMO"
!>Delta is a very powerful relational database system.
;
DBASE3.ZIP DBASE3.ZIP dBASE III Demo & Presentation program.
!>UNZIP into a sub-directory and away with you....
;
DESIGNER.ZIP DESIGNER.ZIP MicroGrafx Designer 3.0 Rolling Demo.
!>Drawing / Graphics etc. Full program needs Windows.
!>extract files to a sub-directory and enter "DEMO"
;
;Pegasus Accounts & other software...
;
PEGWIN.ZIP PEGWIN.ZIP Pegasus for WINDOWS Demo ! enter "SHOW"
PEGWIN2.ZIP PEGWIN2.ZIP PEGASUS for Windows software, fully working
!>evaluation copy, 150 record limit. See README.TXT file.
!>UNZIP to 3½" DSHD diskette and then run INSTALL.
!>NOTE: Set your system date to 25 Nov 92 for this to work.
PEGNOTE.ZIP PEGNOTE.ZIP Nice demo of TSR that runs "behind"
!>Pegasus Junior and is called up via Hot-Key. You can keep
!>notes attached to A/C numbers or Stock References &
!>re-call them "on the fly" etc. Very good.
!>NB - Backup you Pegasus data before using!!!
CASH-PEG.ZIP CASH-PEG.ZIP PegLink UK Pegasus Cashbook demo
SALES-PG.ZIP SALES-PG.ZIP PegLink UK Pegasus add-on demo.
;
; ***** SEE OTHER PEGASUS UTILS IN THE SYSOP's LIBRARY *****
;
;
;Sage Accounting and other software...
;
SOVREIGN.ZIP SOVREIGN.ZIP Sage Sovereign Demo program,
!>UNZIP files to a sub-directory and enter "SOVREIGN".
STERLING.ZIP STERLING.ZIP Sage Sterling Demo, UNZIP to
!>a sub-directory and enter "SAGEDEMO".
SAGE2.ZIP SAGE2.ZIP SAGE Serling +2 Demo, UNZIP in
!>a sub-directory as "UNZIP SAGE2.ZIP -d"
;
ASQ.ZIP ASQ.ZIP ASQ Ver 1.30 A complimentary evaluation program
!>& memory management tutorial. Qualitas Software Inc.
;
ACT-DOS.ZIP ACT-DOS.ZIP ACT! for DOS demo.
ACT-WIN.ZIP ACT-WIN.ZIP ACT! for Windows demo,
!>unzip file and enter "ACTDEMO". This is a Windows
!>based contact manager / diary system.
;
CONTACTS.ZIP CONTACTS.ZIP Contact Manager v3.1, trial version
!>of what is an essential software program for anyone who
!>deals with people and/or those who organise events.
!>The BEST non-Windows, TSR organiser available !
;
BINDVIEW.ZIP BINDVIEW.ZIP BindView Plus Ver 3.0c Rolling Demo.
!>For management of Netware/LAN User information
;
SSDEMO.ZIP SSDEMO.ZIP Lotus SmartSuite Demo. program, to install
!>unzip the files in a subdirectory and enter "DEMO".
!>Needs a min. of 450k RAM and VGA, Windows.
;
LOTUSTUT.ZIP LOTUSTUT.ZIP Lotus 1-2-3 Tutorial Program, copy
!>files to a sub-directory and enter GOLOTUS or
!>GOLOTUSP (for PS/2's).
;
PASTUTOR.ZIP PASTUTOR.ZIP Good Turbo Pascal Language tutorial.
;
PDESIGN2.ZIP PDESIGN2.ZIP ProDesign II Rolling Demo, to use
!>enter SETUP and then PDDEMO (ie. after UNZIPPING).
;
DCAD3D.ZIP DCAD3D.ZIP DesignCad 3D Ver 2.1 Demo Slide Show
!>Copy files to hard disk and enter GO
;
DW5-DEMO.ZIP DW5-DEMO.ZIP Demo of IBM's DisplayWrite 5 WP software,
!>copy files to a sub-directory and enter "DW5"
;
WP51-WIN.ZIP WP51-WIN.ZIP Word Perfect 5.1 for Windows ! demo.
;
TLDEMO.ZIP TLDEMO.ZIP TimeLine Project Management Demo.
!>from Symantec Corp. GANTT charts etc.
;
TF312.ZIP TF312.ZIP *NEW* version Telix Tutor / Help setup
;
;If some files are too big for you to download (maybe you don't have a high
;speed modem) you may leave an email message for the SYSOP and the file can
;be sent out on diskette for only a nominal charge......
;
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 2434
To: DAVE SUMMERS Date: 08/18/93 5:29p
Subj: Re: CD-ROMS AND DESQVIEW Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Windows 3.x
!>For installation: Unzip files to a 1.44mb diskette,
!>change prompt to "A:", then enter "INSTALL". You
!>need Windows to be able to run this demo.
;
EXTRADEM.ZIP EXTRADEM.ZIP EXTRA! 3270 for DOS & Windows
!>Demo disk from Attachmate for 3270 Emulation. Unzip to
!>a sub-directory and enter "DEMO".
;
DELTA52E.ZIP DELTA52E.ZIP Delta 5.2e Database Demo, VERY good
!>extract files to a sub-directory and enter "DEMO"
!>Delta is a very powerful relational database system.
;
DBASE3.ZIP DBASE3.ZIP dBASE III Demo & Presentation program.
!>UNZIP into a sub-directory and away with you....
;
DESIGNER.ZIP DESIGNER.ZIP MicroGrafx Designer 3.0 Rolling Demo.
!>Drawing / Graphics etc. Full program needs Windows.
!>extract files to a sub-directory and enter "DEMO"
;
;Pegasus Accounts & other software...
;
PEGWIN.ZIP PEGWIN.ZIP Pegasus for WINDOWS Demo ! enter "SHOW"
PEGWIN2.ZIP PEGWIN2.ZIP PEGASUS for Windows software, fully working
!>evaluation copy, 150 record limit. See README.TXT file.
!>UNZIP to 3½" DSHD diskette and then run INSTALL.
!>NOTE: Set your system date to 25 Nov 92 for this to work.
PEGNOTE.ZIP PEGNOTE.ZIP Nice demo of TSR that runs "behind"
!>Pegasus Junior and is called up via Hot-Key. You can keep
!>notes attached to A/C numbers or Stock References &
!>re-call them "on the fly" etc. Very good.
!>NB - Backup you Pegasus data before using!!!
CASH-PEG.ZIP CASH-PEG.ZIP PegLink UK Pegasus Cashbook demo
SALES-PG.ZIP SALES-PG.ZIP PegLink UK Pegasus add-on demo.
;
; ***** SEE OTHER PEGASUS UTILS IN THE SYSOP's LIBRARY *****
;
;
;Sage Accounting and other software...
;
SOVREIGN.ZIP SOVREIGN.ZIP Sage Sovereign Demo program,
!>UNZIP files to a sub-directory and enter "SOVREIGN".
STERLING.ZIP STERLING.ZIP Sage Sterling Demo, UNZIP to
!>a sub-directory and enter "SAGEDEMO".
SAGE2.ZIP SAGE2.ZIP SAGE Serling +2 Demo, UNZIP in
!>a sub-directory as "UNZIP SAGE2.ZIP -d"
;
ASQ.ZIP ASQ.ZIP ASQ Ver 1.30 A complimentary evaluation program
!>& memory management tutorial. Qualitas Software Inc.
;
ACT-DOS.ZIP ACT-DOS.ZIP ACT! for DOS demo.
ACT-WIN.ZIP ACT-WIN.ZIP ACT! for Windows demo,
!>unzip file and enter "ACTDEMO". This is a Windows
!>based contact manager / diary system.
;
CONTACTS.ZIP CONTACTS.ZIP Contact Manager v3.1, trial version
!>of what is an essential software program for anyone who
!>deals with people and/or those who organise events.
!>The BEST non-Windows, TSR organiser available !
;
BINDVIEW.ZIP BINDVIEW.ZIP BindView Plus Ver 3.0c Rolling Demo.
!>For management of Netware/LAN User information
;
SSDEMO.ZIP SSDEMO.ZIP Lotus SmartSuite Demo. program, to install
!>unzip the files in a subdirectory and enter "DEMO".
!>Needs a min. of 450k RAM and VGA, Windows.
;
LOTUSTUT.ZIP LOTUSTUT.ZIP Lotus 1-2-3 Tutorial Program, copy
!>files to a sub-directory and enter GOLOTUS or
!>GOLOTUSP (for PS/2's).
;
PASTUTOR.ZIP PASTUTOR.ZIP Good Turbo Pascal Language tutorial.
;
PDESIGN2.ZIP PDESIGN2.ZIP ProDesign II Rolling Demo, to use
!>enter SETUP and then PDDEMO (ie. after UNZIPPING).
;
DCAD3D.ZIP DCAD3D.ZIP DesignCad 3D Ver 2.1 Demo Slide Show
!>Copy files to hard disk and enter GO
;
DW5-DEMO.ZIP DW5-DEMO.ZIP Demo of IBM's DisplayWrite 5 WP software,
!>copy files to a sub-directory and enter "DW5"
;
WP51-WIN.ZIP WP51-WIN.ZIP Word Perfect 5.1 for Windows ! demo.
;
TLDEMO.ZIP TLDEMO.ZIP TimeLine Project Management Demo.
!>from Symantec Corp. GANTT charts etc.
;
TF312.ZIP TF312.ZIP *NEW* version Telix Tutor / Help setup
;
;If some files are too big for you to download (maybe you don't have a high
;speed modem) you may leave an email message for the SYSOP and the file can
;be sent out on diskette for only a nominal charge......
;
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From: DAVE THOMAS Number: 2435
To: CHRIS FLYNN Date: 08/29/93 9:26p
Subj: arrested Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Were You on the COOK REPORT then??
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From: BOB HALL Number: 2436
To: TIM HELTON Date: 09/03/93 10:19a
Subj: AVI FILE Refer: NONE
Read: 09/07/93 8:04a Private: No
TH>We're also working on an all original & BBS ready .AVI disc. I got some
TH>more great footage this week - alligators at the Okefenokee swamp! On
TH>Thursday I floated about 5 miles into the swamp in a flat bottom boat
TH>and got some great videos... On at least 50 occasions I was within 10
TH>feet of 15 foot alligators - creatures that would eat me if they had
TH>their druthers. This will be on the disc along with the other original
TH>material we've accumulated...
Did you say there was an AVI of an aligator eating your foot? Did you
say there was an AVI of an aligator splashing in the water and you
starting the boat in 2 seconds, and then being 50 feet away? Did you
say there was an AVI of you #$(%^&#@( in your pants? Just want kind of
AVI's do we have here, Tim old boy????????
:-)
BOB
:-)
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From: BOB HALL Number: 2437
To: TONY STOTT Date: 09/03/93 10:26a
Subj: SANYO CD-ROM DRIVE. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TS>DM>I am searching for someone who has been around CD-ROM's for a LONG
TS>DM>time.
TS>Try Bob Hall! Rumour has it that he has been in the cdrom game so long
TS>that he used cdrom disks on the wheels of the cart he used to move mammoth
TS>steaks back to the cave! <bg>
TS>Seriously, as the founder and moderator of this echo for 10 years or more,
TS>Bob will most likely have oyur answer.
Well, thought that no one remembered! And by the way, how did you know
I used old CD-ROM's on the cart in the first place? :-)
Thanks
BOB
:-)
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From: LANGSTON GOLDFINCH Number: 2438
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/04/93 11:49a
Subj: SALE CD-ROM'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello NEIL!
NB> FOR A COMPLETE CATALOG,
1:396/17 or leave number and name to p'req.
Regards
Langston
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From: SCOTT REDMAN Number: 2439
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/04/93 11:14a
Subj: Starvector! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Mike,
I just wanted to thank you for the stellar service that Starvector
Software provided for me last week. I called and ordered the Pier2,
Nightowl9, Powerpak Gold, and The 7th Guest discs last Friday (I called
you at 5:00 PM my time), and had the discs shipped UPS Blue. Well, they
should've have been here Tuesday, but was I surprised when I got home
from work on Monday and they were already here!
Again, thanks for the great service....you have a customer for life!
*** Scott ***
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2440
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/02/93 6:14p
Subj: CD-ROM INTERFACES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>RN>Ouch! I had the IN-2000 and was not pleased with its performance and
>RN>ability to handle more than just two HDs.
>What are you referring to? The IN-2000 handles more than just two hard drives
>just fine.
He may have had an OLD bios - the VCN series BIOSs for the IN-2000 appear to
have added the 7 drive support (I have one IN-2000 with a "v3.33" BIOS that
only does 2 drives).
On the other hand, Allways will sell you the most recent BIOS for $10, or you
can download the listing from their BBS and burn your OWN PROM....
* SLMR 2.1a * "I'm not a Boggie!" exclamed Kurt Wagner.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2441
To: DAVID OLSON Date: 09/03/93 12:40p
Subj: DRM-600 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> TT> Does anyone how to make the DRM-600 (6-Disks) use just 1
>> TT> drive letter instead of 6?....
> What does something like this cost?? I don't remember seeing advertised. I
>assume it a CD_Rom drive that holds 6 disks?? Probably in a caddy like all
the
>other Pioneer CD drives??
$795 is the lowest new cost I have seen on the DRM-600A, your other suspicions
are correct.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2442
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/03/93 12:56p
Subj: CADDY-O-RAMA Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> BF> >I wouldn't consider using a caddyless for my BBS
> BF> I refuse to put up with those caddy-type single-disc monstrosities. I can
> This makes no sense at all. Caddies are a lot more CONVENIENT than
>non-caddy units.
Not at all. Unless you want to spend the extra $$$ to put EACH AND EVERY CD-ROM
YOU OWN into a caddy, you spend MORE steps using a caddy drive than a caddyless
drive.
I also happen to hate the extra expen$e of those *$&*&^*@&^ caddies.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2443
To: WAYNE MAJORS Date: 09/03/93 1:13p
Subj: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>and it's great to have an echo for CD ROM that has a moderator with the grit
to
>say "no".
Have you bothered asking Bob WHY he has suddenly outlawed "Adult" CD-ROMs from
this echo?
* SLMR 2.1a * Liberal?!?!?! Go wash your mouth out with soap!
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2444
To: PETER DETTELIS Date: 09/03/93 10:04p
Subj: FRONT PAGE NEWS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Peter,
By the way, I found a copy of Front Page News for the period: April 1990
to March 1991 if you're still interested. Price is $24.
Later,
.\\ike
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2445
To: ALL Date: 09/03/93 10:04p
Subj: TOP 5 NEW CD-ROM TITLES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
| Starvector Sales Bulletin #2: TOP 5 NEW CD TITLES |
5-STAR PREMIUM WINDOWS * Latest Windows shareware + 950 OS2 files!.....$27
MYSTIQUE OF THE ORIENT * 600mb movie featuring Oriental beauties (a)...$59
PRECISION MAPPING 1.5 * Newest release! Detailed street-level map......$79
SHAREWARE EXPLORER * New shareware 4-pak w/ less than 1% dupes!........$54
>SHAREWARE ONLINE #2 * Brand new w/ pure 1993 files! The NEWEST s/w CD!.$37
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2446
To: ALL Date: 09/03/93 10:04p
Subj: NEW SHAREWARE CD 4-PAK! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
| Starvector Sales Bulletin #6: HOT NEW CD-ROM! |
| Title: SHAREWARE EXPLORER 4-PAK | | Price: $54 |
* Over 26,000 total files (1992/1993)
* Less than 1% duplication between CD's.
* 3 volumes are DOS, and 1 is Windows shareware (7000 files)
* BBS-ready with PC-Board and FILES.BBS file listings.
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2447
To: VINICIO CAVALLINI Date: 09/03/93 10:24p
Subj: ORDER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Vinicio,
Sorry about the oversight on your order. The extra Seedy-ROM #7 shipped
out on Aug 27 by Air Mail. I've also credited your account for the $4.00
error.
Thanks,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2448
To: STEVE GREENO Date: 09/03/93 10:27p
Subj: BUSTY #1 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Steve,
I don't carry HP1, but I will have a copy of BB1 soon. Make me an offer
I can't refuse!
Later,
.\\ike
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From: PEYTON NORMAN Number: 2449
To: ALL Date: 09/04/93 9:32a
Subj: CD ROM SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
** CD Rom Disc Special **
X-Tasy BBs Vioce 1-904-492-7483
So Much Shareware $10.00
Night Owls 2 $10.00
Night Owls 4 $10.00
Night Owls 5 $10.00
Time Mag. 1992 $15.00
Up All Night 1993 $15.00
CD WinBox $15.00
Publishers Dream
Disc w/catalog $25.00
Encyclopedia of
Clip Art $25.00
Dictionaries & lang. $10.00
Game Master 2 $10.00
Windowware $10.00
Shareware Gold $12.00
World of Ham Radio $15.00
Cookbook $10.00
Shareware Studio 2 $10.00
Publishers Paradice $20.00
Romware Mag. $8.00
Sherlock Holmes game $15.00
Sleeping Beauty $12.00
CALL X-Tasy BBS line #1 492-9817
line #2 492-9821
VOICE 1-904-492-7483
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From: PHILIP WHEAT Number: 2450
To: MICHAEL KESSLER Date: 09/04/93 11:13a
Subj: AMIGA CD ROM.. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MK>What type of CD ROM would be good for a Amiga 2000. The CD ROM should be
able
MK>to play photo CD's and of course be compatable with CD TV disks as well as
PC
MK>CD's (Mods,gifs ect). Price should resonable if possible.
MK>
Well, I've got an NEC CDR-25 on my A2500. For price, I picked it up as an
external drive for $159 refurb and it's worked just fine. I haven't tried
any of the CDTV disks, but I have the Aminet CD and several of the standard
BBS disks and have had no trouble with them. Just about everyone follows
the ISO standard nowdays so you should have not problems with that. I don't
think that this one is multisession compatable and it is rather slow, but
I believe you would be able to read the Photo CD's with one of the third
party CD file systems (which you'll need to access the thing anyway).
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 2451
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/04/93 5:51p
Subj: Red Hot CDROM Specials Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GP> I take it they fixed the missing-cities problem on that disc?
Got me.....
GP> What is the relationship between 11 and 12? Lots of dupes, just an
GP> update, or are these completely different discs? Do these discs come
GP> with file descriptions etc in any kind of standard easy-to-search
GP> ASCII (not by just a proprietary search engine) format?
Most likely added to it.....you have to send off for the file descriptions on
PC Sig 12....
GP> That one sounds like a winner.
GP> Sounds like it's just about time to order a new batch of goodies. I
GP> presume you still have my credit card info on file?
Somewhere...send me a fax with all the relevant data at 615-479-1047 and will
get ya fixed up....
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 2452
To: KEN MATTHEWS Date: 09/04/93 5:53p
Subj: CD ROM List Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
KM> Doug what is your BBS Phone Number? While back I
KM> use to call and you had
KM> a file that had over 500 CD's listed. Do you still have that file and
KM> what is it called?
615-479-1047 14400 or 615-478-2890....dl pcjcds.zip.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 2453
To: ALL Date: 09/04/93 5:56p
Subj: labor day CDROM specials Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PCJ "Hot" Labor Day Sale - Thru 9/9/93
All Chestnut Titles (15).$ 11.95 Phoenix 3.0............... 12.95
Battlechess............... 21.95 Phoenix 4.0 (New)......... 23.95
Compton's Interactive '93. 88.95 Prophone '92 (3 CDs)...... 29.95
Global Explorer........... 84.95 Reference Library (STW)... 17.95
Hamware 1993.............. 23.95 Software Vault 2.......... 21.95
My First Time............. 34.95 Time Almanac 1990......... 12.95
Peter & the Wolf.......... 18.95 ** While Quantities Last **
Orders - 800-547-7817 (9-9 EST) / 615-339-0235 (24 Hours)
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From: DON PRYOR Number: 2454
To: ALL Date: 09/04/93 5:00p
Subj: n.o. 9 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Is NightOwl 9 BBS Ready?
Don
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From: SAM JONES Number: 2455
To: GENE EHRICH Date: 09/05/93 1:34a
Subj: Photo cd software Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GE> Are you by any chance the Sam Jones that worked
GE> for IBM in Phila in the early 70's?
No I am not, but I did play for the Boston Celtics.<g>
Sam Jones
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From: GORD DAVIS Number: 2456
To: MICHAEL OUJESKY Date: 09/03/93 11:12p
Subj: CDROM echo falls off backbone Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message dated 02-Sep-93 22:58:46, Michael Oujesky wrote:
MO> According to a recent post by Mike Fuchs, this echo (CDROM) has fallen of
MO> the echolist and will be removed from the backbone.
That's a drag, I just linked to this echo...any reason for the removal?
Gord
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From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 2457
To: DARRELL DAVIS Date: 09/04/93 2:27a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM BUNDLES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> >-> I just ordered a Fusion 16 package with a 380 ms drive. I
-> >-> ordered it >-> directly from Media Vision. Most of the retail
-> stores seem to have >-> older packages on the shelves. The package
-> was $399 with $9 >-> shipping. > > That was a typo you said 800ms
-> there ok that sounds right.
-> I don't understand what you are trying to say. Mine is not a
-> typo.
-> The drive is a 380ms drive.
It must be a typo the panasonic 562b/563 drives have 320ms access time
not 380ms unless thats not the drive you get with it?
Louis
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From: DICK HUDDLESTON Number: 2458
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/04/93 11:40a
Subj: Re: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
-=> Quoting Bob Hall to All <=-
BH> This echo, CDROM, would stay basically the information echo. All ads
BH> in any form would be diverted to the CDROMSALE Echo, moderated by Tim
BH> Helton. Adult titles would be discussed in that echo also, as most
BH> people are either selling them, or wanting to buy them, and Tim has no
BH> objections to the topics of adult related material.
BH> This echo basically contains information, reviews, help, and
BH> multimedia topics (Sound Cards included) and the creation of other
BH> echo's would be redundant to the FIDONET concepts.
BH> the ever popular topic of multimedia.
Hi Bob, from a displaced, but happy former Okie!
Some thoughts on the changes you propose: for a long time, the CDROM_SALE
echo was not available to me on the Boards I had access to. Unless there
are frequent mentions of such access, there is not any way for 'new' users
to understand that there is another echo for that. I didn't know of its
existance until someone mentioned it, since it didn't show on the list
of available echoes on the board(s) I was using, but CDROM did. So, with
the provision that a notice be (maybe added) on the echo periodically
advising novice browsers to look for and ask sysgods for the CDROM_SALE
echo, this would be a step away from service to readers.
Next, re: X rated ROMS for sale. Yes, it could go on the CDROM_SALE area -
I fully understand you don't want it here. However, maybe there are some
who might want it separate from the CDROM_SALE echo too so they don't
see it. Since that is a different echo and different moderator, lay it
on the table here for moot for a while. Just a thought.
However, I AM concerned about stuffing Multimedia into this echo. I
for one have no interest in trying to separate the vague 'subject' lines
that say "CDROM" and find it is a multimedia, which I don't have
and don't (obviously) use or need. I STRONGLY FEEL IT NEEDS ITS OWN
ECHO, NOT THE GENERIC CDROM ECHO. I can see it as becoming big and then
we, the reader, can't separate which is which.
Just my comment. Thanks for asking.
... My CD Rom is slower than your CD Rom!
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 2459
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/04/93 2:53p
Subj: Re: Caddy-o-rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BJ> Pioneer is coming out with a follow-on to the
BJ> fanatastic 604X, that will
BJ> hold 18 CD's in 3 magazines. Supposed to be out in November with a list
BJ> about $3000.
GP> That is an OUTRAGEOUS ripoff. It is basically just the same drive, but
GP> with two more magazines added... it _can't_ cost them $10 more to build
GP> it.
First of all, no matter WHAT, it will cost them more than $10 per unit
to produce the larger unit. Secondly, if the drive has the ability to play
three CD's simultaneously, then it is essentially three drives in one cabinet,
and it costs them three times as much for mechanism, about the same price for
the power supply and electronics, and a bit more for the enclosure. If the
drive can only access 1 of 18 at a time, then the power supply and electronics
will be almost identical, but the mechanism will cost significantly more, being
larger and more complicated, and the case will of course be a bit more.
If this beast will support 3 SCSI ID's and three simultaneous access,
then $3000 doesn't sound like that big a ripoff.
Les
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 2460
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/04/93 3:20p
Subj: Re: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PL> The cheapest caddies I've bought (and this is cheaper than
PL> what a dealer I know can get them for) was via this echo,
PL> from a local contact (take a bow, Tony S. :).
Once again, you are in Australia, so pricing is different.
RE> Whilst I have seen ads for caddies for $A5.00, and some
RE> companies offering
RE> "free" caddies if you buy x number of CD-ROMs at a time, the average
RE> price for a single caddy for the casual user appears to
RE> be about $A15.00.
I am talking about walk-in-the-door, showroom-type electronics
warehouse stores. Altex Electronics will sell, off the floor or mail order, to
any yahoo that walks in the door a package of 5 CD-ROM caddies for $US19.95
plus S&H or applicable tax. There are two of their outlets within 15 minutes
drive time from my house.
RE> Well, I operate on "open CD-ROM, extract old ROM, place in case, open
RE> new ROM case, place on tray, close tray".... Simple,
RE> foolproof process...
RE> No hassles!
It is neither simple nor foolproof, and requires at least twice the
number of steps that the caddies do. Some cases are difficult to open. Once
opened, extracting the CD can be hazardous both from the perspective of
fingerprints and from the possibility of dropping the Cd while trying to
extract it. Most jewel cases tend to hang on to the CD rather firmly, and
getting it out can be a minor hassle.
RE> Well, some of the shareware CD-ROMs (Simtel, CICA Windows) are available
RE> for $A20.00 or so
Shareware, yes, because (at least in the U.S) it is illegal to charge
for the distribution of shareware except to recover the cost of that
distribution, which puts shareware CD's in the realm of $15-20. The AVERAGE
cost, however, is more like $70-100
RE>... even a $A5.00 impost is 25% of the cost of the ROM.
The expenditure of which can easily save one from having to buy a new
CD-ROM.
RE> And if, as I said before, you were a casual user with an average caddy
RE> price of $A15.00, this makes it rather expensive....
The casual user price is more like $4. Dealer costs are probably
around $3-$3.50
BTW, if you have an audio CD player, is it a caddy type or a tray type??
I have several, and they all use caddies. The six disk magazines are
even cheaper than the singe caddy, at $8 for a magazine. OTOH, the audio CD's
are much cheaper in general than the data CD's.
Les
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 2461
To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Date: 09/04/93 3:25p
Subj: Re: Caddy-o-rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
IA> > BJ>hold 18 CD's in 3 magazines. Supposed to be out in November with a
IA> > list
IA> > BJ>about $3000.
IA> > That is an OUTRAGEOUS ripoff. It is basically just the same drive, but
IA> > with two more magazines added... it _can't_ cost them $10 more to build
IA> > it.
IA> Yes, you are exactly right. Infact I have the audio
IA> version on my stereo system. TTYL
If the data unit is analogous to the 18 disk audio unit, then $3000 is
extravagant (although it costs more than $10 more to build the 18 disk unit).
If, however, the unit can play 3 CD's simultaneously, then $3000 isn't all that
extravagant, at all.
Les
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From: RAND Number: 2462
To: ARNIE HAYDU Date: 09/03/93 8:55p
Subj: Comment from Arnie Haydu Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AH>Welcome back from vacation
I have to believe you mean someone other than me. Perhaps there is another Rand
on this board?
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From: DON RIEB Number: 2463
To: ALL Date: 09/03/93 9:33p
Subj: NEW FREE CDROM CATALOG! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have just finised updating the CDROM catalog for SaveWare. If you wish
to recive a copy freq 1:115/724, the printed catalog will be done shortly and
I will anounce when it is done. Those of you that have sent me your name and
address allready will be sent a catalog by mail when it is finished. Please
find in the electronic form CDROM catalog, the FIDONET.TXT for details
on a FIDONET member discount.
If you would like to be on the mailing list for the printed catalog send your
name and address to 1:115/724 or write:
SaveWare, P.O. Box 274, Glenview, ILL. 60025
Or call Don at 708-657-1160
SaveWare Computer Shopping BBS 708-724-2427 Node 1, 16.8 Dual Standard
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From: JEAN-FRANCOIS LAVOIE Number: 2464
To: ALL Date: 09/04/93 8:21p
Subj: CD Problem Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi everybody,
I have a little problem with my Panasonic-SBpro CD-ROM drive:
when it looks for data&sound at the same time, like in narrated animations,
the A:, B: and C: drive LEDs begin to flash alternately. I didn't have this
problem before, and I was wondering if it could be the Multi I/O card that
could be the problem since I changed it recently... When reading and audio CD,
no problems and the same thing when reading only data cd-roms. So what do you
think of it?
...:::||| J-F |||:::...
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN Number: 2465
To: ALL Date: 09/04/93 10:05a
Subj: SUPER VALUES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi people!
We've got some great deals on some '93 CD-ROMs... these are
Overstock Liquidations at, near, or below cost while current
INSTOCK quanitities last! They are:
Cdn$ US$
ProPhone 1993 7-disc set SOLD OUT
American Business Phonebook SOLD OUT
Erotic Encounters Vol. II 35 26
Foxes 25 19
Busty Babes Release 3.0 25 19
Shareware Studio II 20 16
Night Owl 9 35 26
Shareware Studio I Free with purchase of Night Owl 9
C ya soon!
.\\ichellea
306-789-4654
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From: RACHEL REPSTAD Number: 2466
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 09/04/93 6:00p
Subj: games Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am 14 on the 27th of this month. I haven't beaten Spear Of Destiny but I
will. I got it a while ago but I haven't put it on my computer yet. We have a
mitsumi I think but it's on our board so the only way I could use it is through
the network and that is really slow so I'll have to wait a while. KQ6 is
awesome! It has bits of fairy tales it it and alice in wonderland iis in there
too. It took me a while to beat it but I just LOVE a challenging game! Have you
ever played Aces of the Pacific? I'm not really into flight simulators but I
really like this one. Also I think caslte of Dr. Brain is pretty good. That is
a challeging game depending on what skill level you have it on. Another one of
my favorite Sierra games is Conquests of Camelot. I like the arcade bits it has
in it. You get to joust with the black knight and have a sword fight with some
other guy. It's pretty cool. Y'know what? I have just started playing KQ5 and I
don't have the manual. Well, I got to the bandit's camp and there is a copy
protection! So... I'll have to play another game or find a way to get the
manual or beat the copy protection.
L8R--
Rachel Repstad
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From: RACHEL REPSTAD Number: 2467
To: BRIAN KING Date: 09/04/93 6:04p
Subj: Laura Bow II Refer: NONE
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BK>I saw your message to Henry Paul saying that you had Laura Bow
BK>II. I also have this game but I am stuck on level two. I am in
BK>the museum. I have talked to all the people and then they
BK>disappear. I have picked up the glass on the table but other
BK>than that I can not do anything.
BK>PLEASE HELP!!!
BK>The game came with a sierra hint line number but when I ring them
BK>up there is no clues left there.
BK>Would be grateful for any help that you could give me.
Brian,
You need to go into the gift shop and use your magnifying glass on all
the souvenier daggers until you find the one that doesn't say PITTSBURG. After
that happens you should get kicked out of the gift shop by the security guy and
I think after that happens the person you met at the dock (I think his name is
Steve) will come in. After that you should be able to go through the arch way.
If that doesn't work then let me know. I'll be here anytime.
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From: LEE NOGA Number: 2468
To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Date: 09/04/93 7:33p
Subj: Re: NO BBS READY Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message to NEIL BERGMAN <09-02-93 23:21> Ismail Arslangiray wrote:
IA>> > SOUTHERN BEAUTIES $31.91 (BBS READY)
IA>> YES
No-No-No-No-No-No-No---Read the back of the cover--This is one company who I
feel will be very aggressive with litigation if their scans are put on the
BBS--This disc *IS NOT* BBS acceptable, and should not be used as such.
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From: MIKE ZAREK Number: 2469
To: DAVE REED Date: 09/04/93 7:36p
Subj: Re: MANPOWER - NEW GAY CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message to Gordon Peterson <09-01-93 20:12> Dave Reed wrote:
DR> We do NOT have to tolerate immoral behavior. No one should.
In other words, it's *moral* if white, Christian folks do it, and immoral for
everyone else.
Mike
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From: ED FEINS Number: 2470
To: STEVE GERWECK Date: 09/03/93 6:40a
Subj: CD CADDIES FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>EF> I have EIGHT CD-CADDIES for sale.
>EF>
>EF> $25.00 - shipping INCLUDED in USA
>
> Could you sell me 4 of them for $12.50? :) I really don't need all
> eight.
>
>
> Steve
No
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 2471
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/02/93 11:46p
Subj: NIGHT OWL 9 SPECIALS Refer: NONE
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MS> Do you have anything newer? <g d & r>
Phoenix 4.0 and lots more <g>.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 2472
To: JOHN PEARCE Date: 09/02/93 11:46p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Refer: NONE
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JP> Is the file available for f'req? By points or just
JP> systems in the nodelist?
Has to be downloaded directly from our BBS....
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 2473
To: ALL Date: 09/03/93 12:02a
Subj: Labor Day CDROM Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PCJ "Hot" Labor Day Sale - Thru 9/9/93
All Chestnut Titles (15).$ 11.95 Phoenix 3.0............... 12.95
Battlechess............... 21.95 Phoenix 4.0 (New)......... 23.95
Compton's Interactive '93. 88.95 Prophone '92 (3 CDs)...... 29.95
Global Explorer........... 84.95 Reference Library (STW)... 17.95
Hamware 1993.............. 23.95 Software Vault 2.......... 21.95
My First Time............. 34.95 Time Almanac 1990......... 12.95
Peter & the Wolf.......... 18.95 ** While Quantities Last **
Orders - 800-547-7817 (9-9 EST) / 615-339-0235 (24 Hours)
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From: JOE SLIFER Number: 2474
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/03/93 6:36p
Subj: Cd-Rom Help Refer: NONE
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Hi Rowan!
RE> Nope, just stick the 8-bit paddle card back in and lose a slot! In fact
RE> I'm thinking of using a PAS16 with the
RE> next CR562B as it doesn't have the
RE> annoying sound dropouts in the speech of T7G!
An 8-bit card comes with a *double* speed drive? How does this affect the
drives performance? I was seriously considering this drive for the ejectable
tray feature plus of course the *bang* for the buck. Is the 450ms access in
double-speed mode noticeable plus the afore mentioned card. Thank
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From: JOHN TUCKY Number: 2475
To: RICK COOKE Date: 09/03/93 8:08a
Subj: Re: Virtual Sex Disk Refer: NONE
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>I saw a show on HBO featuring a CDROM that was a Virtual Reality
>Xrated disk. Anyone heard of this, and know where it is available?
Good News:
Reactor Inc.
445 West Erie
Chicago, IL 60610
312-573-0800
$95
Bad News:
Requires -
Color Mac II
13 inch monitor
3.5 mb free RAM
CD-ROM drive
(Above information from New Media magazine, November 1992 (with review))
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From: THOM DAVIS Number: 2476
To: YVES DESJARDINS Date: 09/03/93 4:53a
Subj: Benchmark test for CDROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Yves!
In a message to All <08/26/93> Yves Desjardins wrote:
YD> Hello All!
YD> I'm looking for some type of benchmark test for a CDROM. Any suggestion?
YD> What is the "standard" benchmark test. Also where can I get it?
If you know of anyone who has the Megarom CD demo, they have one on
there, I have it here but is's on the cd-rom which is run with ROMDOOR
and megarom is not in all the time.
Plus they also have a chkcd.exe program that will let you run a check
disk like program over the cd
--Thom
* WCE 1.10/2119 * Always assume the second try will be different.
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From: THOM DAVIS Number: 2477
To: YVES DESJARDINS Date: 09/03/93 4:57a
Subj: Benchmark test for CDROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Yves!
In a message to Janusz Surowka <08/30/93> Yves Desjardins wrote:
YD> Hello Janusz!
YD> 28 Aug 93 21:42, Janusz Surowka wrote to Yves Desjardins:
YD> JS> If you find one, tell me.
YD> I found one call CDBENCH from MegaDemo CD. It seems to work not too bad.
YD> was also looking for one called CDSPEED, that some people on the echo was
YD> talking about, however I didn't hear from anyone just of yet.....
Don't waste your money, it's a commercial program and is not worth it!
It's supposed to act like a cache, but once it fills up the cache the
program goes right back to the same old speed, sometimes slower!
--Thom
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From: JOE RINEHART Number: 2478
To: ALL Date: 09/04/93 12:33p
Subj: Zmodem Help... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Heeellp!
I've made a few pleas before for help with this problem I have, but
have not received any response:( Hopefully, with a crossposted plea, a
response will be had.
After recently installing two cd-rom drives, & desqview, my DSZ (all
zmodem format) protocols ceased working for inbound callers! I tried
disabling my BNU fossil, according to Z modem docs, but that didn't do the
trick. I also tried the set fdopt=nores, but that didn't work. Any or all
help would be gratly appreaciated!
The software I'm running includes:
RBBS 17.4,
BNU 1.77,
FD 2.02
& of course DSZ.
Thanks for your consideration & looking forward to all responses!
Sincerely,
Joe Rinehart
1:157/479
(216) 297-1332 Fax/Voice
(216) 296-4446 Fax/Data ZyXEL
... Home of E-Tax (tm), Data/Fax Tax Transmission - (216) 296-4446
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2479
To: JOHN BIERRIE Date: 09/05/93 1:50a
Subj: Re: Mac cd-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>>>> Hey Boris - how about a listing of your Macintosh titles?
>>>> They dn't have to be Mac specific, they can be dual format. -
BO>> Will try to post a few Bob, but I've stated before, doesn't seem
BO>> like there's a lot of interest in MAC cd's.
>> Boris,
>> Please do! :-) Though, personally, I don't run a Mac, I
>> keep an eye out for a number of friends who do, in one
>> notable case, my boss who just purchased a 660 AV with CD...
>> Since part of his reason for doing so was because I was
>> "willing" to help him find "good" CD's to use with it, I'd be
>> grateful if you'd post some of the Mac titles from time to
>> time...
OK, coming to an echo post real soon near you....grin -:)
>> Thanks.
No problem.....
Boris Osadciw
... Press F1 to Reboot
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2480
To: MICHAEL MULCAHY Date: 09/05/93 1:50a
Subj: Re: 800 College Boards Refer: NONE
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>> I am looking for a MAC Compatable CDROM entitled "800 College
>> Boards" originally distributed by Queue. Request price and
>> shipping Info...tks...m2 --- MacWoof 1.5.3
Are you look for the title called " College Handbook 1992"? It offers
over 2,700 College Boards database, with stats and more, but not in
MAC sorry.
Boris Osadciw
... Oh never mind!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2481
To: ALL Date: 09/05/93 1:50a
Subj: NEW DR.CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
)))))))))))))))))))))) H O T N E W C D ' S ((((((((((((((((((((((
DR. MUSIC - Music Editors, MOD, MIDI, ROL, SND, VOC, WAV and more!
DR. SHAREWARE - 615 megs of shareware programs and utilities!
DR. GAMES - 600+ megs of Adventure, Arcade, Card, Sports and more!
DR. WINDOWS - 3,440 files of window programs and utilities!
All BBS READY !! - BUY 5 AND GET THE 6TH ONE FREE !!
Price - $59.00 for all 4 or $20.00ec
ORDER LINE ONLY - 800-243-0517 - TECH - 216-225-3263 - FAX - 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: SIMON FORSYTH Number: 2482
To: JOHN LARKIN Date: 09/02/93 4:09p
Subj: more meaning Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JOHN LARKIN
JL>> Right! How bout one full of kiddie porn?
...
TS>> This is a message to all those sickos ...
...
JL> If this is aimed at me because of what I posted above,
JL> then go look up SARCASM in the dictionary and take some
JL> lessons in comprehending what you read. If not, disregard
JL> this message.
I saw no sarcasm in your little add on, John, and I think
that's the interpretation that most people read. If you
intended sarcasm you should have added a degradation phrase
or two about the intended target of your sarcasm. In a lot
of people's books you are now a paedophile.
You have actually put yourself at risk; should an accusation
of child molestation be brought against you then this would
be damning evidence.
Don't think that those that watch aren't.
Sorry Moderator, I just wanted to give John a little scare.
Simon
CIA
(just kidding)
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From: MATT CHAPMAN Number: 2483
To: ALL Date: 09/03/93 11:00p
Subj: Non MM CD-ROM Refer: NONE
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Can anyone point out a CD-ROM drive (ide) that is suited for non multimedia
uses.
ie: does not require a sound card (such as the prop SB), reasonably cheap,
(available in Australia).
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From: DAN WALDRON Number: 2484
To: ALL Date: 09/05/93 5:55a
Subj: Novell Netware Refer: NONE
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Hi All,
I am familiar with the hardware side of LANs, and Netware Lite and
Lantastic, but don't know where to start when it comes to Netware. Can
anybody recommend any good "laymans" guides to learning a bit about it?
Preferably publications that are likely to be available in Australia.
Am I correct in assuming that Netware requires a dedicated server? How
is DOS affected by Netware running? Any installations that I have
participated in have only involved thin-ether, but I'd be interested in
knowing the advantages (apart from trunk length) that thick ethernet
provides.
Your assistance, and tolerance of my trivial questions is greatly
appreciated!
Rgds
Dan
... I tried an internal modem, but it hurt when I walked.
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From: DAVID WINGER Number: 2485
To: TONY STOTT Date: 09/04/93 3:16p
Subj: Misleading Answers Refer: NONE
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On 09-03-93 Tony Stott wrote to David Winger...
TS> On 08-31-93, David Winger elucidated to Sunny Leung:
TS>
TS> DW> SL> Can you produce your own CD's?
TS> DW>Yes, but you need a WORM drive for that.
TS>
TS> WRONG! A Writeable cdrom drive will ALSO enable you to produce your
TS> own one-off cdrom disks
A writable CD-ROM is a WORM!
^^^--------Read ONLY Memory.
TS> DW> SL> Suppose you wrote some files on a CD-ROM. Is it possible to
TS> add
TS> DW> SL> more files to the CD?
TS> DW>NO!
TS>
TS> WRONG AGAIN! Using multisession writing and reading drives, you CAN
TS> add more and read it.
Ok, I was wrong there.
TS> DW> SL> What's the difference between a CD and a optical disk (and
TS> DW> SL> what's a WORM drive)?
TS> DW>
TS> DW>A CD uses a laser beam to read the information of the disk, an
TS> DW>optical disk is the same as a floppy disk except that it uses a
TS> DW>laser to keep the head aligned with the disk, because the tracks
TS> DW>on the disk are so fine.
TS>
TS> Guess what? WRONG AGAIN! You are describing floptical technology,
TS> magneto optical disks do not work that way, neither do cdroms.
Sorry, Right again!
I never said CD-ROMS work that way. Read the message again.
Flopticals and Magneto Optical Disks are supposed to be the same thing.
This is fromm Your Computer January 1993 edition on page 118.
THE SYSGEN FLOPTICAL
A normal floppy drive just steps the heads across the disk in
preset increments. At the same time the rotating part of the disk
wobbles about, and there are quite large tolerences in the way the
disk fits in the drive. Use of this sort of positioning technique
cannot achieve the tracking accuracy needed to read and write 21MB
disks accurately. The solution to the problem is to use disks that
have tracking lines burnt into them by the manufacturer, and then to
use a drive that has a laser to read the tracking lines and keep the
magnetic head literally right on track.
It should also be noted that floptical drives can read standard
1.44 meg and 720k 3.5" floppy disks.
There is also a very good article in the same mag on page 149 about CD's.
TS> David, I suggest you borrow a book or two from your library and
TS> learn more about the technology before trying to answer questions,
TS> as you might mislead people.
I do read my books. I currently read about 5-6 mags each month.
I appologise if I mislead any one.
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From: KYM HOBBS Number: 2486
To: MICHAEL TURNER-CRAIG Date: 09/02/93 1:44p
Subj: 7TH GUEST... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Try reinstalling the 7th Guest, it seems to have fixed the problem on my
computer.
Chow!
Kym Hobbs
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From: COLIN BELL Number: 2487
To: ALL Date: 09/04/93 5:45p
Subj: Drive speed Refer: NONE
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I am considering putting a scsi cd rom drive online on my BBS. I don't
4 really want to spend too much on the drive but I have to be sure that it
will be able to keep up with people downloading. My modem is 14400 BPS &
the serial port is locked at 19200 bps. I noticed that the NEC drives that
the local store carries (the cheaper ones) have 500ms access speed. Is that
fast enough to keep up with my modem. My HD's are all quantums that are
about 15ms so I thought 500ms was a BIG difference. I will later be getting
a multispin cdrom for my personal machine so don't really care if the BBS
one can't do photo-cd's or whatever. What speed is the Pioneer DRM-600A ??
coz I notice a few sysops use that.
How does the Pioneer drive handle it if 2 people are online & they try &
access files on different disks at the same time? 8) I presume it is 1
mechanism with a carousel or is it 6 mechanisms & able to access each at
the same time.
Thanks
CB
*FSED91h*
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From: RANDY RUZICKA Number: 2488
To: IAN DOW Date: 09/04/93 8:02p
Subj: MODEMS Refer: NONE
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Ian, I had the same modem. It was damaged by lightening 3 weeks ago.
When I tried to call tech support, received a disconnect message.
Since I have not seen a ad from them in the Computer Shopper for
awhile, I am assuming that they went out of business. I received
MTEZ communication software from them but I use TELIX instead.
Never used the FAX part of the modem so I am not experienced
it that use. Nice thing about TELIX that it can provide you
with a initialization string for the modem. I had some problems
with local BBS's. On some boards I was getting 2400 BPS transfers
even though I connected at 14400. Was not impressed by the modem.
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From: STEVE WON Number: 2489
To: ALL Date: 09/03/93 11:07p
Subj: Revell's European Racers Refer: NONE
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Has anyone had a chance to try out Revell's European Racers on CD? Any
comments as to whether this is good or bad or otherwise? I am
considering buying this because it looks interesting, but have not had
the chance to try it out.
I would appreciate any input.
... Some are weather-wise, some are otherwise.
* TLX v3.00 *
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From: BRAD LEWIS Number: 2490
To: ALL Date: 09/04/93 6:00p
Subj: N.owl9 SBPro CD-Rom 521C noway Refer: NONE
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About a year ago I purchased a SBPro mutimidia kit with an Internal CD-Rom
drive Model 521C and You would not believe the different stories I get as I go
from store to store with my question.
I have been told that Creative Labs still includes the same CD-rom drive in
the kit as it did back then. I have my doubts. I bought Nightowl 9 and found I
could not read it; so, I began my quest to find out why.
I phoned the Nightowl distributers and they told me that they are just
starting to hear about this and are considering releasing another version of 9
so the older CD-ROMs can read it. I called Creative labs and was told that
there are 2 types of drives and 2 formats for writing to CD's . THey told me I
can only read CD's that have a maximum of 540 megs approx. while the newer
drives can read cd's with up to 680 megs. Now I am wondering what drive to buy
next and how long before something comes out it can't read.
If anyone can shed more light on this or maybe warn people about the SBPro
mutimedia kit, if it is true that they are still including the older style of
drive, I would like to hear from you.
Thanks
-= Brad =-
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From: CORKY CORCORAN Number: 2491
To: TOM ARRUDA Date: 09/04/93 12:02p
Subj: Re: Need number Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoted Tom Arruda to All about Need number on 08-29-93 11:41 <=-
TA> I have recently purchased a CR-562B drive from MPS. I am running from
TA> a Sound Blaster 16 card. I have had nothing but problems with the
TA> drive. It constantly causes "General Protection faults" when run in
TA> Windows. I have the "Seventh Guest" and "Day of the Tentacle" that run
TA> under dos, both lock up and halt the entire system. I am using a
TA> 486dx33 with 8megs of ram ,DOS 6.0, MSCDEX 2.2,Qemm7.0, Norton
TA> SpeedCache 4.0. I need the number for Creative Labs BBS. Any help
TA> would be GREATLY appreciated.
I'll do better than that! I'll give you the BBS number, the fax number
AND the voice number.
The BBS number is: (408) 428 6660
The FAX number is: (408) 428 6633
The TELEPHONE number is: (408) 428 6622
There ya' go buddy!
TTYL!
Signed,
Virtual Humanity
... With a Blue Wave of my hand I cleared away the SLMR!
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From: CORKY CORCORAN Number: 2492
To: JAMES BRYANT Date: 09/04/93 12:03p
Subj: Re: 7th guest Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoted James Bryant to All about 7th guest on 08-29-93 14:42 <=-
JB> I've just finished 7th Guest and it was great. The graphics
JB> were truely amazing, the sound was pretty good too.
JB> I'm selling it for $35
JB> call James at 1-619-538-0973
YOU FINISHED 7TH GUEST?!?!?! YOU ARE TRULY AMAZING!!!
TTYL!
Signed,
Virtual Humanity
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From: NORMAN HAVENS Number: 2493
To: BRAD ORR Date: 09/04/93 8:50a
Subj: CD Rom Drive Sound Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BO-_-( an internal double speed drive) and there is a headphone jack
BO-_-on the front of the drive that I have _never_ been able to get sound
BO-_-from using music cd's. What must I do to hear sound from this jack?
Sounds to me like maybe the jack itself or related internal
circuitry is broken. Either that, or the software you've got for
playing music CDs is faulty.
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* Origin: Tokyo PC Club BBS +81 (3) (6:730/16.0)
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From: ED FEINS Number: 2494
To: JOHN KROPP Date: 09/04/93 7:13a
Subj: CD CADDIES FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Ed, I will take em at that price if in good shape and postpaid to me
> at that figure. Let me know if agreeable. Thanks!
Sorry .... they are sold.
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From: ED FEINS Number: 2495
To: RON YOUNG Date: 09/04/93 7:14a
Subj: CD CADDIES FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>EF> I have EIGHT CD-CADDIES for sale.
> I will take these. Give me your address info and I will send
> payment for the caddies.
Sorry .. they are sold.
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From: CHRIS PUSKARIK Number: 2496
To: LOYD CRAFT Date: 09/04/93 11:20p
Subj: CDS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Loyd.... I need some of the things done! .... Mike ...? Close enough? ok,
please reply if it's ok to send for 3 more....OK? No prob either way, !
And leave ur adress!
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From: JIM CUMMINGS Number: 2497
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/05/93 12:52p
Subj: Fed Micro CD-Rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Have you ever given any thought to having a booth at the
Fed Micro CD-ROM convention in Washington D.C. ? It is a
great convention. MrCDrom was there doing a huge business
at what I thought were high prices. (Night Owl 8 $59,
PC-SIG #12 $69, Compton's MPC encylopedia $295 for example.)
The convention lasts 3 days several times a year and is
heavily attended. I don't know the details about booth
cost/availability but can get them for you if you want.
* Origin: Joppa, MD. "The Meanest Man Makes the Most Money."
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From: BURRELL LEATHERWOOD Number: 2498
To: ALL Date: 09/04/93 1:38p
Subj: MITSUMI CD-DRIVES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
for those of you who purchased a mitsumi drive and wish to hook it up to your
soundblaster pro 16, do the following:
hook your 40 pin cable from your drive to the card that came with it.
hook your audio cable (4 pin) from your drive to the 4 pin cd audio on your
soundblaster. but you need to make 1 modification to the 4 pin cable.
the grounds on your cd are 2 & 4. on the soundblaster they are 1 & 3. you
need to re-wire the 4 pin as follows:
cd-drive 1 2 3 4
\ \ / /
sb pro 16 4 3 2 1
it works.
burrell
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From: DANNY TONG Number: 2499
To: ALL Date: 09/04/93 4:51a
Subj: Mod, 669 or wav on cd-rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Has anybody seen a CD-ROM with MOD, 669 or WAV for sale?
* SLMR 2.1a * Bubble gum is bad sole food.
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From: JOHN PENDLETON Number: 2500
To: VICTOR HEALEY Date: 09/05/93 1:33a
Subj: Re: SHAREWARE AND CDS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
VH> I understand that Atari or Commodore is issuing a new game system that
VH> uses a CD ROM drive that will allow access to files
VH> stored for PC use on a
VH> CDROM. Supposed to available this fall. Anyone else
VH> remeber seeing this announcement?
Hi Victor, you're refering to the new Atari Jaguar game system, that has
available a dual speed CD-ROM drive. As it stands right now, any of the Atari
ST series and the Falcon series are capable of using a SCSI CD-ROM, I'm using
one now! <G>
John
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 2501
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/04/93 9:20p
Subj: CD LIQUIDATION! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MS> NOTE: This message was originally addressed to ROB MCINTYRE and was
MS> forwarded to you by ROB MCINTYRE
MS> --------------------
RM> What is the JEDI Collection ? Is it a Star Wars library ?
RM>
MS> No Rob, it an educational CD package from the Joint Education
MS> Initiative at College Park Md. Deals with Earth and Space Sciences.
I am interested in this one Mike if it is MAC compatable...m2
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 2502
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/05/93 10:37a
Subj: Mac CD Info Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thanks Mike. Let me know if you get find a new 1993 Groliers for the Mac. The
kids want it for school this year.
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 2503
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/05/93 2:14p
Subj: SALE CD-ROM'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Pls forward me a catalog. I am interested in MAC CD's
email:
michael.mulcahy@his.com
9300 Hamilton Drive
Fairfax,VA 22031
--- MacWoof 1.5.3
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From: AL KOLLER Number: 2504
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/03/93 11:48p
Subj: Re: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
Hi Bob.
You do a good job with little thanks for moderating this echo, so if you think
that the changes are worthwhile, so be it. Personally I like it just the way
it is, ads and all..
Al
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From: DAVE REED Number: 2505
To: DIANE PENCIL Date: 09/04/93 11:26a
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Diane!
I still haven't received that NOPV8 disc. Did you send it? Hopefully mine
found it's way to you by now. Let me know if it hasn't, as I sent it via
priority mail (USPS).
Later,
Dave.
... MORALITY cannot be defined by individual choice.
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From: ANTON SWART Number: 2506
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/03/93 3:43p
Subj: Kings quest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Yello.
I just wanna tell u that u're wasting your time if u fax 2 me coz nobodys
gonna be able 2 pick it up. coz the numbert was that of my dads work and there
in europe right now... :) :) :) !!! ok... welll like i said Airmail pleez!
Oh yea pleezz anser s00n coz my subscription expires in this bbs in 18 dayz
and i cant pay 4 it! - no cred. card! cheers
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From: TAEYMANS SVEN Number: 2507
To: ALL Date: 09/01/93 9:51p
Subj: CD-ROM <-> SB-16 ASP. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hallo allemaal,
Als bezitter van een Soundblaster 16 ASP ben ik op zoek naar een compatible
CD-ROM voor deze kaart.
Omdat de Creative-Labs CD-ROMs nogal prijzig zijn (daar ik de meegeleverde soft
toch niet nodig heb) zoek ik dus een CD-ROM van een ander merk dat kan worden
aangesloten worden op de Soundblaster 16 ASP.
Indien U (of iemand anders) ervaring heeft met dit onderwerp gelieve dan een
berichtje achter te laten).
P.S. Indien aanpassingen nodig zijn (bijv de Interface kabel) is dat
geen probleem. Ik moet echter wel zeker zijn dat het CD-ROMmetje aan
de Soundblaster 16 ASP kan gehangen worden.
Hopelijk tot schrijfs,
Doeg,
S\/en Taeym/-\ns.
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From: TAEYMANS SVEN Number: 2508
To: ALL Date: 09/02/93 12:37a
Subj: SB16ASP. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hallo Allemaal,
Heb ongeveer 6 maanden terug een Soundblaster 16 ASP gekocht en wil nu een
hiervoor geschikte CD-ROM kopen. Mogelijk zonder interface en software op
CD-ROM. Het schijnt mogelijk te zijn om ook ander CD-ROM's aan te sluiten op
de Soundblaster 16 ASP kaart mits enkele aanpasingen (aan de flatkabel). Wie
weet hoe dit moet en voor welke type, merk van CD-ROM
Alvast bedankt voor de (hopelijk) ontelbare reakties.
Groetjes,
Taeymans Sven.
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From: DAVE REED Number: 2509
To: TONY STOTT Date: 09/04/93 8:28p
Subj: Your Tagline Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Tony!
Friday September 03 1993, Tony Stott writes to Ronald Leon:
RL>> * WinQwk 2.0 a#435 * America Held Hostage: Day 223 of the Socialist
RL>> Takeover!
TS> Ronald, just a couple of questions:-
TS> Do you have elections in your country?
TS> Do you know that people living in other countries have NO interest
TS> in your domestic politics?
TS> Do you know that many people reckon ALL politics is s**t?
TS> Do you know that this is the CDROM echo?
TS> If you answer yes to any one question, please depoliticise your taglines
TS> Thanking you from downunder - please don't ask us Aussies to tell you
TS> about OUR politics:)
It's JUST a tagline! Besides, when some socialist a**hole can get elected with
40-some% of the popular vote, against the will of the majority of our citizens,
there's going to be a LOT of angry people! At least allow them to vent a
little steam in a harmless tagline.
Thanks for your understanding. We Americans are in the middle of a crisis,
here.
... If Clinton gets ill, send candy... he's already had Flowers!
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From: DAVE REED Number: 2510
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/04/93 8:30p
Subj: NEWEST SHAREWARE CD!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Mike!
Thursday September 02 1993, Mike Shannon writes to All:
When are you joining Fido? I have some good software for you! ;-)
... If Clinton is the answer, it must have been a stupid question!
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From: JOE PATTERSON Number: 2511
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/04/93 9:22p
Subj: World Vision Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Mike, I am still waiting for the #2 disk of WORLD Visions 3 disk set. Have
you forgotten me. :{)
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From: GIAN BISATZ Number: 2512
To: MARTIN ROODENBURG Date: 09/02/93 12:58a
Subj: Mitsumi Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Martin
Thanx for your reply. So nothing keeps me from buying one of the
devices any longer.
Gian.
Gruesse aus dem Glarner-Ländle !
* 1st 1.11 #2201 * Point of no return !!
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From: GIAN BISATZ Number: 2513
To: TODD OSTRER Date: 09/02/93 12:58a
Subj: cd's for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Todd
Would you possibly ship your CD's outside the US (lets say to
Switzerland) ?
Greetings Gian
Gruesse aus dem Glarner-Ländle !
* 1st 1.11 #2201 * Point of no return !!
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From: GIAN BISATZ Number: 2514
To: ALL Date: 09/02/93 12:58a
Subj: CD-Catalogs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello there !
If anyone of you CD-Salesmen is intersted in shipping his products to
switzerland, I would appreciate to get some FREE catalogs & pricelists
of what you have in stock.
My address:
Gian A. Bisatz
Haedilochstrasse 47
CH-8867 Niederurnen
Switzerland
Thanx in advance
Gian
Gruesse aus dem Glarner-Ländle !
* 1st 1.11 #2201 * Point of no return !!
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From: ROB VAN DER OUDERAA Number: 2515
To: MARK WOMACK Date: 08/30/93 10:58p
Subj: Mitsumi/SB/PRO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Mark,
I have a sound blaster with that input connected to my PC speaker. It means
that you get rid of the cabling to the PC speaker and connect this to
the sound blaster. But there is a snag, I found out that the sound produced
by the SB from the PC speaker output is VERY LOUD. This means that when
I am playing a game with only utilizes the PC speaker I have to turn down
the volume of the SB and turn it up again when I am playing a game which
uses the SB to its fullest.
I would like a way to stop fiddeling around with that volume controller.
Anyway, here are the needed changes I have done for my SB, in my manual it was
described but perhaps I have a more recent version :
1. Locate the PC speaker connection on the motherboard.
2. Remove the speaker connection from the motherboard.
3. From the motherboard, connect a wire from the +5Vdc pin on the speaker
connector to pin 1 of jumper JP1 on the card.
4 Connect another wire from the data-out pin on the motherboard speaker to
pin 2 of JP1 on the card.
Hope this helps,
Rob
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From: GEOFF LEWIS Number: 2516
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/05/93 7:46a
Subj: Re: WANTED Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Boris, just wanted to let you know that the DRM 604X I got from you is
working fine, and I'm enjoying the hell out of it. Great boost for the
BBS!
Geoff
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* QMPro 1.50 41-6020 * Misspelled? Impossible. My modem is error
correcting.
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From: RONALD LEON Number: 2517
To: JOHN HART Date: 09/04/93 11:28p
Subj: Hi Speed Mitsumi FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
John Hart beamed onto the Enterprise and said:
JH>need. It's a caddyless internal drive that runs Photo and Music CD's
JH>well as CD-ROMs. 350 ms access, 150k/sec transfer rate. (513)376-112
You call that "Hi Speed??""
* WinQwk 2.0 a#435 * The "Fairness" Doctorine: Liberal Socialist CENSORSHIP!
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From: SAM JONES Number: 2518
To: SEAN TUDOR Date: 09/05/93 7:05p
Subj: 7th Guest CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
To solve this problem I use the SB16SET program to raise the VOICE level
and lower the MIDI level before playing and it sounds ok. I have left messages
on the Virgin BBS to find out if there are SB16 AIL drivers.
Sam
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From: TOM KENNEDY Number: 2519
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/04/93 5:34p
Subj: CD-ROMS-DISCOUNT PRICES! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'd like a copy of your catalog Please mail it to:
Tom Kennedy
10337 Appleway CT.
Charlotte, NC 28227
Thanks.
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From: STEVE GOYER Number: 2520
To: ALL Date: 09/01/93 11:22p
Subj: Sb-16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
So, if I have a SoundBlaster-16 (which I will soon have) I can just hook the CD
ROM into the card, right?
___
X SLMR 2.1 X Canadian DOS: "Yer sure, eh?" [y/n]
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From: STEVE GOYER Number: 2521
To: RANDY WHITE Date: 09/01/93 11:41p
Subj: Re: BRAND NEW CD'S! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RW>King's Quest VI better than The 7th Guest? Obviously
RW>you've never played either one. I've played both and The
RW>7th Guest is on another level. King's Quest VI is O.K.
RW>but nothing compared to The 7th Guest.
I havent played either one... I dont even have a CD ROM. But I'm getting one.
I would just like to know what type of game 7th Guest is? Is it an adventure
game or an action game? And whats the object of the game?
Thanks for any info...
___
X SLMR 2.1 X Canadian DOS: "Yer sure, eh?" [y/n]
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 2522
To: MICHAEL MULCAHY Date: 09/05/93 8:52p
Subj: U.S. History CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MM> I need a MAC Compatable CDROM entitled US History
MM> by the Bureau of Development. CDROM to be used is
MM> an AppleCD 300. Request Price and shipping
MM> info..tks..m2
We have the IBM version in stock at $27.95 plus shipping...615-339-0235 24
hours to order.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 2523
To: MICHAEL MULCAHY Date: 09/05/93 8:57p
Subj: Macademic Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MM> I am looking for a MAC CDROM entitled "Macademic"
MM> by Quantum Leap. Request pricing and shipping
MM> info...tks..m2
You could have listed all of what you were looking for in one or two messages
instead of a dozen of them <g>.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 2524
To: BRUCE BOWMAN Date: 09/05/93 9:05p
Subj: nix pix cds Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
We have them all for sale.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 2525
To: MICHAEL MULCAHY Date: 09/05/93 9:15p
Subj: Multimedia Animals Encyclopedia Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
We have Mayo and Animals in stock for $25 each.....615-339-0235 to order.
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From: KEN UHRICK Number: 2526
To: SAM JONES Date: 09/04/93 4:35p
Subj: Re: Photo CD Software Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Sam Jones to All <=-
SJ> I have a Panasonic 562-b CD-ROM drive and I would like to know
SJ> what software is available in order to let me view Kodak Photo CD's.
SJ> Is there a shareware prgram avaiable? I have seen one prgram (by
SJ> Kodak) but it was a DOS program and my video card (SSPro VL) was not
SJ> supported so I guess that I wold not be able to get the 16 mill. color
SJ> mode so a Windows version would be nice, is there a Windows version,
SJ> and how much is it?
SJ> Thanks, Sam
SJ> -!- Maximus 2.01wb
SJ> ! Origin: The Node III BBS New Orleans LA (504) 347-4320 (1:396/27)
AS far as I KNOW THE KODAK PHOTO cd IS WINDOWS prg
... My other computer is a VAX.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
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From: ADRIAN VERGOT Number: 2527
To: BETH CORRIGAN Date: 09/05/93 10:28a
Subj: kodak photo CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
They sure can.... but with a catch that I can't figur out. For $17 they will
develope a roll of film and make a CD for you..... But.... it's about $35-$45
(not sure, but if interested I can find out the exact price) to transfere 24
negatives onto CD-ROM! Must be an extra cost thrown in since somebody would
manually have to find specifically which negatives on the strips you wanted.
Just curious.. is photography a hobby for you? Also, what kind of video card
are you using?
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From: WAYNE MAJORS Number: 2528
To: ALL Date: 09/05/93 7:37a
Subj: ELIST Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
For those concerned about the removal of this echo from the ELIST.. I took
care of it..
The following if from a message I received to day from the ELIST node...
*************************
Area Tag CDROM addition successful!
This entry will be published in The International EchoList edition 310
scheduled for release 1-Oct-93.
Following is the current database entry:
Tagname: CDROM Area Key: CDROM
Title: CD ROM Discussion and Information
Description: A general chatter conference for discussing CD Rom and
Laser-Optic technology
Origin:
Distribution: BACKBONE
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etc.
***********************
Fear not.... we are alive and on the backbone.. :-)
L8r.... - Wayne -
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From: WAYNE MAJORS Number: 2529
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/05/93 7:46a
Subj: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a msg on <Sep 03 13:13>, Brice Fleckenstein writes to Wayne Majors:
--> Note: Copied from CDROM by WIMM 1.00
>and it's great to have an echo for CD ROM that has a
> moderator with the grit to say "no".
BF> Have you bothered asking Bob WHY he has suddenly outlawed "Adult"
BF> CD-ROMs from this echo?
I know why... I live in Oklahoma too ... but court case or no... it's
appreciated...
L8r.... - Wayne -
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From: ED YEE Number: 2530
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/05/93 12:58a
Subj: SALE CD-ROM'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NB> A COMPLETE CATALOG, LEAVE
NB> mail ADDRESS OR POSTAL
NB> address.
OK:
Ed Yee
6608 Dalrymple Way NW
Calgary, Alberta, Canada
T3A - 1R9
Don't worry about any adult catalogs, cause I'm not interested in those. Give
the rest of the stuff.
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 2531
To: ALL Date: 09/05/93 9:11p
Subj: Busty Babes Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello All!
I still have Busty Babes #1 I'm willing to sell or trade.
I am looking for a 386dx 40, simms, tape backup, cd rom drive or $250.00
This CD has been going for as much as $450 so lets make a deal before it is
gone.
Pat
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From: RONALD LEON Number: 2532
To: TONY STOTT Date: 09/05/93 3:29p
Subj: Your Tagline Refer: NONE
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Tony Stott beamed onto the Enterprise and said:
TS>RL> * WinQwk 2.0 a#435 * America Held Hostage: Day 223 of the Socialis
TS>RL>Takeover!
TS>Ronald, just a couple of questions:-
TS>Do you have elections in your country?
Yes, and we also have freedom of speech guaranteed by our constitution
which will probably be a thing of the past after Billary Clinton is done
with us. I have to enjoy it while it lasts :)
Okay, back on topic
Peace
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2533
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/03/93 1:27p
Subj: PRO AUDIO OR SOUNDBL Refer: NONE
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> BF> > T7G install, which a few people are using as a measure of "how fast
> BF> > their CD-ROM drive is" reports on three installs I have seen :-
> BF>
> BF> > PAS 16/NEC CDR-55 - 300Kbps
> BF> > SB16 ASP/Panasonic CR563 - 584Kbps
> BF> > SB16 ASP/Panasonic CR563 - 612Kbps! (Different machine!)
> BF>
> BF> Try it with a SCSI drive that is doublespin for a FAIR comparison.
> The NEC CDR-55 *IS* a doublespin drive!
The NEC 73/74 and 83/84 series are the doublespin drives. I do NOT recall the
55 as being doublespin.
> BF> Better yet, try it with a Pioneer DRM-604X on a FAST SCSI card like
> BF> the Allways IN-2000 or Adaptec 154x - the PAS is OK, but it's SCSI
> BF> interface is NOT a fast one (generally doesn't NEED to be with most
> BF> CD-ROM drives)....
> Want to lend me a DRM-604x so's I can test it?? <g>
Soon as I get one for myself....
8-)
> BTW, as I have said before, the NEC 55 and 74-1 performed to within 5%
> whether they were attached to the PAS16 *OR* an Adaptec 1540B!
Limitation of the drive - and quite frankly, I question those figures on the
Panasonics anyway, as the DRIVE is only rated for HALF those numbers. I suspect
they have a cache involved that is distorting the TRUE numbers....
* SLMR 2.1a * I stole a ride on a passing star....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2534
To: NORMAN HAVENS Date: 09/04/93 5:13p
Subj: MITSUMI Refer: NONE
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>Don't tell that to the Japanese magazines (or their readerships) that do
>serious (?) "listening tests" to determine things like the difference between
>single and double speaker cables, or the "subtle difference in sound quality"
>they convince themselves appears when a CD player is used with one of those
>stabilizers.
Why not?
Folks have been harrassing the American "esoteric audio" mags that have
claimed the same stupid stuff....
* SLMR 2.1a * You're not a REAL person 'till a Cat ignores you....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2535
To: IAN DOW Date: 09/04/93 5:14p
Subj: FASTLYNX PROGRAM Refer: NONE
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>Here in Zimbabwe, I currently use an old version of FastLynx. I believe that
>ver. 4.00 or later is available.
>Can someone give me an address or phone/fax number of the company that produce
>this program, or of an agent ??
Try the CBM or CBM-128 echoes, or if you have UseNet/InterNet access try the
comp.sys.cbm newsgroup.
* SLMR 2.1a * Campus Crusade for Cthulu - IT found ME!!!!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2536
To: ED YEE Date: 09/04/93 5:42p
Subj: WRITABLE CD-ROM'S Refer: NONE
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> SL> Can you produce your own CD's?
>Sure, if you had a WORM, DRAW, or a ReMOD drives.
The ONLY drives that will produce a CD-ROM that is readable by any standard CD-
ROM player are the "One-off CD recorders".
A "WORM" drive uses a COMPLETELY different mode of operation, and is NOT CD-
ROM compatable in any way, shape, OR form.
Ditto "Erasable Optical" (AKA "ReMOD") drives like the Maxtor Tahiti....
* SLMR 2.1a * NOW we know what Clintion did in Russia: he studied Econ!
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From: CARL SLAWINSKI Number: 2537
To: JANUSZ SUROWKA Date: 09/06/93 2:40a
Subj: Re: Night Owl 9 $25 Refer: NONE
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Ahoy Janusz!
On <Monday August 30 1993>, Janusz Surowka was mumbling to Kevin Plummer:
JS> what the hell is this Night owl
Person who stays up late. 8-)
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From: RACHEL REPSTAD Number: 2538
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 09/04/93 10:34p
Subj: TALK Refer: NONE
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Hey, are you playing an adventure now? I was thinking about getting into
conquests of camelot or something like that. If you'd like to play too let me
know.
P.S: If you'd like to play another game just tell me, I probably have it.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 2539
To: DON PRYOR Date: 09/05/93 10:31p
Subj: n.o. 9 Refer: NONE
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DP> Is NightOwl 9 BBS Ready?
Yes....it sure is. There are a complete set of PCBoard file lists in one
directory called TEXT and there is a FILES.BBS in each of the
subdirectories...we have it in stock for $25.....615-339-0235 24 hours to
order...
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From: RYAN MENDEL Number: 2540
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/05/93 11:29p
Subj: Re: Mac cd-roms Refer: NONE
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From: RYAN MENDEL Number: 2541
To: TODD OSTRER Date: 09/05/93 11:32p
Subj: cd's for sale Refer: NONE
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What do we have to do to buy one, do we send you our money?
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From: RYAN MENDEL Number: 2542
To: ANYONE Date: 09/05/93 11:34p
Subj: BBS CDs Refer: NONE
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How do you load a CD program for a BBS, a CD like Phoniex? Do you have to load
all the files and type in descriptions manually, or is there something on the
CDs that automatically loads it to the BBS, making directories and things like
that?? PLEASE help me, I would like to get it running on my BBS as soon as
possilbe, thanks!
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From: SCOTT HOLMES Number: 2543
To: WILLIAM STEVENSON Date: 09/04/93 10:05a
Subj: Kings quest v & sb16asp Refer: NONE
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-> Is there a way to get KQ-V to drive the ASP?
I don't have them, but I thought I saw some SB16 ASP sound patches from Sierra
for a few of their CD games. You might find them on GEnie or directly from
Sierra.
Scott H.
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From: ROBERT STEPHENS Number: 2544
To: WILLIAM STEVENSON Date: 09/03/93 6:25p
Subj: Kings Quest V & SB16ASP Refer: NONE
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WS> Hi
WS>
WS> I've just installed the SB 16 ASP, which works well (e.g. with 7th
WS> Guest).
WS>
WS> But when I install King's Quest 5 (bought December 1992) with
WS> sound blaster selected, I get a message 'can't initialize your music
WS> hardware'. However, it does run and produce music if I select
WS> Adlib.
WS>
WS> Is there a way to get KQ-V to drive the ASP?
WS>
WS> William
I bet you have a 486, right ?. Well the old games need the updated
driver that will work properly with the 486, i had the same prob with
my Sbpro.
-Robert
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From: ROBERT STEPHENS Number: 2545
To: SIMON COGGINS Date: 09/03/93 6:32p
Subj: Os/2 And Soundblaster Pro Refer: NONE
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SC> > Hiya,
SC>
SC> > I've got OS/2 2.1, MultiMedia Program Manager with
SC> > SoundBlaster Pro set up and
SC> > working fine, but i can't get the SoundBlaster CD-ROM
SC> > working!!
SC>
SC> > I've tried inserting soundblaster's sbpcd.sys (or
SC> > whateva it's called) in
SC> > os/2's config.sys. This works fine, and the CD is
SC> > accessed and all is fine. I
SC> > just can't figure out where to get the cd-rom
SC> > extensions driver from!! mscdex
SC> > won't work. it comes up with incorrect dos version.
SC>
SC> In the manual i received with my drive it told me to load
SC> SETVER.EXE if you have a lower version of than MS-DOS6. So in you
SC> can run SETVER.EXE as you boot up OS/2 it might work.. Or find a
SC> program that does the same thing..
In OS/2 you change this in the DOS SETTINGS -> DOS_VERSION you would
put something like this to set the version to DOS 5...
MSCDEX.EXE,5,00,255
-Robert
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Beta
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2546
To: TOM BULUM Date: 09/05/93 1:52p
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
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Hi Tom!
On 09-02-93 TOM BULUM wrote to ROWAN EVANS...
TB> So let us in on this secret. Where can I get caddies for
TB> A$5? I really wouldn't mind knowing. Netmail me on
TB> 3:620/250. Thanks.
Sheesh! I don't use caddies, Poe does, and you ask me!
Netmail Tony Stott or Poe Lim, they should be able to point you in the
right directions! All I was pointing out (as I don't have a caddy type
drive) was that I'd seen ads for caddies for $A5.00.... Now you want
me to search for them again!
BTW, Data Highway in WA (1/2) and PC Add Ons in Qld (1/3) are the people
that are offering free caddies.... check with them as to their caddy
prices!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2547
To: MARCUS LEE Date: 09/05/93 1:57p
Subj: ATI + 7th Refer: NONE
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Hi Marcus!
On 09-02-93 Marcus Lee wrote to Rowan Evans...
ML> RE> The ATI GUPro I have is the ISA version - 86% is still plenty fast
ML> RE> enough for all the graphics in T7G!
ML>
ML> Well even tho it gives percentage scores, it wouldn't really change
ML> much, would it? Just the choppyness of the screen maybe?
Most of the "choppiness" went away with the 4.1 (beta) version of the
CD-ROM driver......
ML> RE> ML> Oh, and do you know ANY video cards that get 100%?
ML>
ML> RE> Yep! The local bus SVGA on another machine I have rated 100%!
ML>
ML> Since you've got both cards, IS there any difference between one that
ML> rates 86% and 100%?
Well, the Local Bus machine is an Integrated Local Bus SVGA.... Its
actually a HT-216 (Video 7) chipset SVGA....
ML> Is it the smoothness of the screen movement?
The HT-216 LB SVGA machine only had a slow SONY CDU-31A in it.... But
it didn't seem that bad in the screen movement.... I think that some
of the "jerkiness" and "choppiness" in T7G is inherent in the display
of the graphics and not your video of CD-ROM....
ML> BTW: If I get my hands on an EISA version, I wonder if the scores will
ML> be the same.
The AST Premmia (EISA machine) has an integrated version of the ATI Graphics
Ultra + onboard..... 100% on T7G install...
Have Fun!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2548
To: TOM ARRUDA Date: 09/05/93 2:00p
Subj: Need Number Refer: NONE
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Hi Tom!
On 09-02-93 Tom Arruda wrote to Rowan Evans...
TA> Rowan,
TA> Thanks for taking the time to reply to my cry for help, but it
TA> turns out my SoundBlaster16 had a bad controller section.
OK, no worries. Good to see you got it working!
TA> fine now except when I run the "Rebel Assault" demo on my Day Of
TA> The Tentacle CD, both the audio and the video stagger and strobe.
TA> Believe it or not it runs smooth on my friends Mitsumi LU500!!!
What version of the CD-ROM driver are you using?? I was given a copy of
the beta SBCD.SYS version 4.1.16 and it removed a lot of the "staggers"
that were in T7G.....
Haunt your local Creative Labs dealer.....
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2549
To: DIANE PENCIL Date: 09/05/93 2:11p
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
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Hi Diane!
On 08-31-93 Diane Pencil wrote to Rowan Evans...
DP> Give me a break! A person buys a 200.00 cd rom and can't
DP> afford the 5.00 for an extra caddy? When the software costs
DP> from 10-100 a disk, an extra 5.00 for the added convience
DP> of a caddy is hardly prohibitive.
Well, a *CHEAP* CD-ROM drive in Australia is around the $A400.00 mark
and what appears to me to happen is that a lot of users want to try the
technology and, because the CD-ROM is a close relative to the Audio CD,
they *EXPECT* that a CD-ROM drive will have a tray.
Then, when they've spent the money (and don't have a lot of change left
over for additional caddies) and find out it isn't so, they have
an investment that either they swap ROMs in the caddy or they do little
with.
I had, as previously related to another person in this echo, a bad
experience with an older type caddy CD-ROM drive and vowed then and
there *NEVER* to buy a CD-ROM drive that used a caddy....
I have (I just counted them!) 21 CD-ROMs here... If I had a caddy type
drive and did as you suggested, that would be an additional $A105.00
*AT LEAST* that I would have spent. If all I'd done was buy *ONE*
additional caddy, then I have the "swap ROM" situation that I already
have with the tray type drive *AND* I'd have had to spend more money!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2550
To: MARCUS LEE Date: 09/05/93 2:20p
Subj: 7th Guest W/ 100% Video Refer: NONE
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Hi Again Marcus!
On 09-02-93 Marcus Lee wrote to Jon Shearin...
ML> It seems that the only people getting 100 are VLB.... unfortunately
ML> I've only got EISA.I wonder if there are any on ISA/EISA getting 100..
ML> I would have thought the ATI would have been the card to do it.
ML>
ML> Now that I think of it, I guess those DOS scores on PC
ML> Mag's video test might mean something now? I mean those GUI
ML> accelerators with poor dos scores would be poor for 7th Guest, right?
Yep! main reason behind why I bought the ATI GU Pro rather than the
Diamond Stealth Pro (?) was that the Diamond used an S3 accelerator
and this was noted as being p*ss poor for DOS use - especially with
T7G, where MCGA was the only supported graphics option!
ML> JS> BTW, the 86% with the ATI sounds awfull. I got 74% using
ML> JS> a Trident JS>8900CL ISA card on a 486SX/25.
ML>
ML> Boy, you make it sound pretty terrible... I really can't think what
ML> these percentage scores would reflect, is it the smoothness of the
ML> screen scrolls?
Considering the fact that its in a DX2/66 its possible that the processor
speed has had an effect on this score (whether for better or worse, I
don't know!).....
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2551
To: MICHAEL MULCAHY Date: 09/05/93 2:24p
Subj: Anatomist¬ Refer: NONE
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Hi Micheal!
On 09-02-93 Michael Mulcahy wrote to Dealers...
MM> I am looking for a MAC compatable CDROM entitled
MM> "Anatomist+" by Folkstone Design Inc.. Request pricing and
MM> shipping info...tks..m2
I'm not trying to be the moderator, but 11 messages requesting dealers
to supply pricing on *ONE* CD-ROM per msg *SUCKS*!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2552
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/05/93 2:26p
Subj: Q'S On These New Panason Refer: NONE
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Hi Brice!
On 09-01-93 Brice Fleckenstein wrote to Marc Circosta...
BF> > Lately I have been reading with intrest about the
BF> > Panasonic 562/563b drives,
BF> >- Will they connect to a PAS16
BF>
BF> NO. There might be a SCSI version of these drives that is compatable
BF> with the PAS16, though.
Tell everyone to look for the Panasonic CR503 as the SCSI version of
the CR562B/CR563.....
But they are hard to find! (I haven't been able to source one!)
Cheers!
o
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From: GRANT FORBES Number: 2553
To: BRYCE MCKINLAY Date: 08/28/93 4:40p
Subj: CDROM echo into New Zealand... Refer: NONE
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A welcome before you!
In reply to a message by Bryce McKinlay dated Tuesday August 24 1993 :-
BM> It would appear as if this echo has stopped being imported onto our
BM> shores. Anybody got any idea who the importer is/was??
According to a list of importers I have here, John Clarke 3:770/120
Vale F^2.
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From: DAVID BENFELL Number: 2554
To: BRYCE MCKINLAY Date: 08/28/93 11:54a
Subj: Cdrom echo into new zeala Refer: NONE
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-> It would appear as if this echo has stopped being imported onto our
-> shores. Anybody got any idea who the importer is/was??
So would I... and it would be nice for them to tell us it's not being brought
in anymore... I'd be willing to contribute to keep it and I'm sure alot of
other people would also.... however, I don't know who the importer was.
Cheers
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From: PHILIP MARTELLI Number: 2555
To: SAM BROWN Date: 08/30/93 11:10p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM AUDIO Refer: NONE
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I can't answer any of your questions, but I can tell you this - on my BBS, go
into the Windows CD ROM, and take a look in the Sounds file area. (You don't
need validation to download.) There's a program in there that does what you
require, and it includes source code. I don't know what language it's in, but
then I did say I couldn't answer the question!
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From: SAM BROWN Number: 2556
To: BRYCE MCKINLAY Date: 08/31/93 11:08p
Subj: CD-ROM AUDIO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Bryce.
-> My understanding is that these CD playing programs find out the inter
-> registers to use when talking to the CD-ROM drive through the drivers
-> load via config.sys and autoexec.bat... They're not neccerally standa
-> drives, but the drivers hopefully are.
Yeah, that sounds very good, and the more I think about it, more than
likely.
This makes things a little trickier for me, but at least I shall know
that my CD AUDIO program will work on not just my drive.... hopefully!
Thanks alot. Very kind of you to reply.
Sam Brown.
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From: SAM BROWN Number: 2557
To: PHILIP MARTELLI Date: 08/31/93 11:11p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM AUDIO Refer: NONE
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Hello Philip.
-> I can't answer any of your questions, but I can tell you this - on my
-> into the Windows CD ROM, and take a look in the Sounds file area. (Yo
-> need validation to download.) There's a program in there that does wh
-> require, and it includes source code. I don't know what language it's
-> then I did say I couldn't answer the question!
Thats great, thanks alot.... Just what I needed!
I shall call in a few days.
Thanks.
Sam Brown
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From: BRYCE MCKINLAY Number: 2558
To: DAVID BENFELL Date: 08/30/93 9:58a
Subj: Cdrom echo into new zeala Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello David!
28 Aug 93 11:54, David Benfell wrote to Bryce Mckinlay:
DB> So would I... and it would be nice for them to tell us it's not being
DB> brought in anymore... I'd be willing to contribute to keep it and I'm
sure
DB> alot of other people would also.... however, I don't know who the
importer
DB> was.
Okay, apparantly the importer is John Clarke of 3:770/120. I'll netmail him
and ask whats going on. If he has infact stopped importing it, I shall see if
we can arrange somebody else to bring it in.
It will certainly be a shame not to have it any longer, this is definatly one
of the better fido echos around.
Bryce
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From: DAVID BENFELL Number: 2559
To: BRYCE MCKINLAY Date: 09/01/93 10:12p
Subj: Cdrom echo into new zeala Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Okay, apparantly the importer is John Clarke of 3:770/120. I'll
-> netmail him and ask whats going on. If he has infact stopped
-> importing it, I shall see if we can arrange somebody else to bring it
-> in.
Yes, I think that would be a good idea.. keep us posted of what you can
sort out with this.
-> It will certainly be a shame not to have it any longer, this is
-> definatly one of the better fido echos around.
I totally agree with you there... one of the few I actually sit down and
read!
Cheers
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From: LUCIANO MUNHOZ Number: 2560
To: YVES CHARIER Date: 09/03/93 11:34a
Subj: Mitsumi Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> LM> Could anybody, please, give me some techinical specifications about
> LM> Mitsumi CD-ROM drives?
> SPECIFICATIONS
> You're welcome! Hope this helps...
WOW! I think it's enought!
TNKS!
Regards,
Luciano Munhoz
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From: JOHN TUCKY Number: 2561
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/04/93 9:18a
Subj: Re: READING MACINTOSH DISC Refer: NONE
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>I have a Macintosh CD which won't work in my Panasonic equipped IBM
>compatible.
There is a card on the market that will turn your PC into a Macintosh. It is
a Macintosh computer-on-a-card, with it's own CPU and memory, so it does not
emulate the Mac with the PC CPU. It costs about $800.
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 2562
To: DOUG DAGGER Date: 09/05/93 6:11a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM's Refer: NONE
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-> How good are the graphics on it?
-> I was lokking for very good graphics like the ones that from a few fe
-> look like pictures.
-> Thanks
->
-> sI'm talking about the matsumi.
Could you refresh my memory about what we were talking about?
I seem to have forgotten.
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 2563
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 09/05/93 6:17a
Subj: CD-ROM GAMES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Actually Henry, I just got my Mitsumi CD-ROM drive maybe a month ago
-> only have like 3 games for it, King's Quest 5, Battle Chess(the data
-> screwed so it don't work nomore), and 7TH Guest(A real nice games), s
-> really have any games to sell or trade, by the way what CD-ROM games
-> have, no company in perticular? TTYL
Hi Ashwin!m
Actually, I don't have any :) I got my drive BARE with cont.... I have
borrowed a few games from some friends. I got to borrow Wing Commander 2
with Ultima Underworld.
I haven't tried U.W. yet, too hooked on W.C.2!!! Man, is it cool!
I have King's Quest 5 disk version... You know, KQ6 has all the
characters with voices and Alexander has the guy that did the BEAST in
Beauty and the Beast...
There is also a 4min. movie under windows that shows behind the scenes
stuff. I've got Battle Chess on disk too. It's okay on disk...
Oh, well.....
TTYL,
Henry
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From: DAVE REED Number: 2564
To: LEE NOGA Date: 09/05/93 4:46p
Subj: NO BBS READY Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Lee!
Saturday September 04 1993, Lee Noga writes to Ismail Arslangiray:
LN> In a message to NEIL BERGMAN <09-02-93 23:21> Ismail Arslangiray wrote:
IA>> >> SOUTHERN BEAUTIES $31.91 (BBS READY)
IA>>> YES
LN> No-No-No-No-No-No-No-+-Read the back of the cover--This is one company who
LN> I feel will be very aggressive with litigation if their scans are put on
LN> the BBS--This disc *IS NOT* BBS acceptable, and should not be used as
LN> such.
Oh come on... you know Ismail don't read or abide by copyright agreements.
... Friends don't let friends vote democratic!
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From: DAVE REED Number: 2565
To: MIKE ZAREK Date: 09/05/93 4:47p
Subj: MANPOWER - NEW GAY CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Mike!
Saturday September 04 1993, Mike Zarek writes to Dave Reed:
MZ> In a message to Gordon Peterson <09-01-93 20:12> Dave Reed wrote:
DR>> We do NOT have to tolerate immoral behavior. No one should.
MZ> In other words, it's *moral* if white, Christian folks do it, and immoral
MZ> for everyone else.
Now where did you come up with that? My original statement stands: It's
immoral. Period.
... Don't blame me... I voted for Bush!
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From: DAVE REED Number: 2566
To: DON PRYOR Date: 09/05/93 4:47p
Subj: n.o. 9 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Don!
Saturday September 04 1993, Don Pryor writes to all:
DP> Is NightOwl 9 BBS Ready?
Yes.
... Kennedy School of Driving... Bring Waterwings!
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 2567
To: RACHEL REPSTAD Date: 09/05/93 10:36p
Subj: games Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I am 14 on the 27th of this month. I haven't beaten Spear Of Destiny
-> will. I got it a while ago but I haven't put it on my computer yet. W
It's not really that great, I whizzed it in a day 'cause I borrowed it
from a friend.
-> Have you ever played Aces of the Pacific? I'm not really into flight
-> simulators but I really like this one. Also I think caslte of Dr. Bra
Yeah, I got it about Christmas time last year. What a great Flight sim!
I have Red Baron too, also great
I can't wait for Aces Over Europe! Do you know if RAF in the Pacific
ever released for Aces of the Pacific? I have seen WWII 1946, but not
RAF in the Pacific.
-> a sword fight with some other guy. It's pretty cool. Y'know what? I h
-> started playing KQ5 and I don't have the manual. Well, I got to the b
-> camp and there is a copy protection! So... I'll have to play another
-> find a way to get the manual or beat the copy protection.
It's not really even copy protection... I've played KQ% several times.
Sorry, KQ5 :) I know a bunch of places that it functions...
Usually if you keep trying, it will go away... Save your game though!
Let me see, The bandit's tent, the Witch's house, the boat at the
seashore. I think that's it... If you have the original disks you can
call Sierra at 1-209-683-4468 and ask for a manual. It's only $5. Well
worth it.
Good to hear from you again!
TTYL,
Henry
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From: TOM BROWN Number: 2568
To: ALL Date: 09/03/93 10:28a
Subj: CD for BBS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for a CD that has files on it that are for BBS use. I am
talking about doors, protocols, added features. I am running TAG bbs and it is
Compatable with almost ALL other bbs programs. It is VERY easy to use for both
the sysop and the user. It user the FILES.DIR format. If you have a disk of
this type, please let me know. You can kcontact me in this echo, Net-mail me
at 2:244/6204.1 or call my system at +49-6181-574359 (Hanau Germany).
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From: ANDY MORRISON Number: 2569
To: CHRIS FLYNN Date: 09/02/93 1:56p
Subj: CD-rom Shareware Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi there Chris
Thanks for coming to the rescue once again!
I didn't realsise that there were so many cd-rom titles about already.
I have been given a price of £33 for Nightowl 9 (incl p&p) & £30 incl p&p for
Minerva IV.
I have heard a number of good reports about Nightowl 9 and have decided to go
for this to start of my shareware collection.
Can you match this price? A you have helped with this enquiry I would rather
give you the "sale".
Another wee question is can you take credit card orders??
If so i'll crash mail the details down to you.
Many thanks once again
Andy Morrison
Sysop Chapps Edinburgh
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From: DAVID S Number: 2570
To: MATT HANSON AND JOE PATTERSON Date: 09/05/93 8:19a
Subj: Just called to say High Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
HI thanks for the phone number. I am getting used to It.
Hi. Thanks for the number. I'm getting used to It.
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From: KEVIN SULLIVAN Number: 2571
To: IAN DOW Date: 09/04/93 7:09p
Subj: Modems Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
ID>Does anyone know of the location of this company, or the location of an agen
ID>of Dallas Fax ?? Does anyone have experience of using this make of modem ??
I recall Dallas Fax going bankrupt with much gnashing of teeth, and lots of
people having problwms with the modem. Get onto FIDO High Speed Modems
conference and someone may be more help there. I think the short answer is
to sell it off to someone you don't mind offending and get a more mainstream
brand.
* SPEED 1.20 [NR] * A Sheep doesn't fly so Much as Plummet! - Monty Python
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From: KEVIN SULLIVAN Number: 2572
To: MIKE AVILA Date: 09/05/93 3:13p
Subj: PAS/Texel Owners Onegaish Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Short and simple, what comes with the upgrade kit and is it *necessar
-> for a single cdrom off PAStudio card given access to 3rd party SCSI a
-> sound cables?
All good information not repeated.
MA>Media Vision tech support tele # 1-800-638-2807 or 1-510-770-8600 or FAX
MA>1-510-770-8648. Let me know if I can help more.
Thanks a lot for the tips, will let you know what happens. You see, I am
still waiting for the upgrade kit to arrive, and I am now contemplating
piecing it together myself.
* SPEED 1.20 [NR] * Hey Rocky, watch me pull this upgrade kit outa my hat.
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From: KEVIN SULLIVAN Number: 2573
To: MIKE AVILA Date: 09/05/93 3:15p
Subj: PAS/Texel Owners Onegaish Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> up a "No device recognized" error on bootup. Chapter and verse, Insta
MA>You are using the generic driver. Use the PAS Trantor driver as I said
MA>in the previous message. That will solve that problem.
Ok.
MA>If you don't get it solved soon let me know and I will call MV and see
MA>if I can give you a copy of my driver legally.
Thanks for the tip, but perhaps I should try the BBS and see if it is
available.
* SPEED 1.20 [NR] * Bring order to your life .. use random numbers.
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 2574
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/06/93 10:21a
Subj: Re: 800 College Boards Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> I am looking for a MAC Compatable CDROM entitled "800 College Boards"
> originally distributed by Queue. Request price and shipping
> Info...tks...m2 --- MacWoof 1.5.3
>
BO> Are you look for the title called " College Handbook 1992"? It offers
BO> over 2,700 College Boards database, with stats and more, but not in
BO> MAC sorry.
No Boris. The Title is actually "800 College Boards" and I do need a version
that can be used on an AppleCD 300 Player. THanks anyway..m2
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From: JOHN PASSANITI Number: 2575
To: MICHAEL OUJESKY Date: 09/06/93 2:43a
Subj: CDROM echo falls off backbone Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> According to a recent post by Mike Fuchs, this echo
> (CDROM) has fallen of the echolist and will be removed
> from the backbone.
To be precise, not being included in the Echolist means that a conference
/may/ be removed from the backbone, not that it will.
The moderator of this conference should update the Echolist entry
immediately. If the moderator doesn't, someone else should take on that duty.
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From: ANTHONY PONTORIERO Number: 2576
To: JEFF WEISS Date: 09/05/93 9:12p
Subj: WRITE YOUR OWN CD! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> DON'T BUY THAT NEW HARD DRIVE UNTIL YOU'VE READ THIS.
> *********************************************************************
> ***
>
> On-line storage and archiving for less than 25 cents per megabyte!
> ----------------------
> SysOps:
> o Do you find yourself deleting 20 meg a day, just to keep
> space for
> new uploads?
>
> o Can't get enough donations to buy that brand new 3 ms 1.5
> terabyte
> hard drive?
>
> o Are you buried by hundreds of unlabeled QIC-80s filled with
> God-knows-what software?
>
> System Administrators:
>
> Does this sound familiar?
> o Your users are filling up your expensive network storage with
> "mission critical data
> towhichwemusthaveimmediateaccessorwewill
> losethismultitrilliondollarbidblahblahblah .... so you'd
> better
> not take our files off-line, buddy, because we know you won't
> be
> able to restore them in time <inhale>."
>
> o And you can't cost-justify to the Comptroller that you must
> have
> that new 1.5 terabyte disk array to meet your growing
> system's
> needs. (Hell, he still thinks data processing people are
> just
> slaves to the accounting department, anyways, so what does he
> know?)
>
> Here's the economical solution to your problems. Take your old data
> and archive it onto economical CD-ROM, leaving your hard drive for
> files
> that need both read and write access.
>
> After adding a CD-ROM reader (starting at under $200), you'll be
> able to
> access any data you have transfered to CD-ROM. You'll have
> removable
> on-line archival storage just a few keystrokes away - all at a very
> attractive price.
>
> *********************************************************************
> ***
>
> Eternal Archive Solutions, Inc. is now offering data conversion
> services specially geared to the SysOp and Network Administrator.
>
> Send us up to 660 megabytes of data stored on standard DAT, QIC-80,
> or QIC-40 tapes and we will transfer that data to CD-ROM in DOS or
> ISO 9660 format.
>
> o Full confidentiality is assured.
> o Quick turn around time is provided.
> o Data integrity is guaranteed.
>
> Cost: $50 set up charge per original.
> $100 for each CD.
> For example, it is $150 for 1 CD, $250 for 2 CDs, $350 for 3 CDs,
> etc.
>
> That's less than $0.25 per megabyte!
>
> SysOps get a $25 per CD discount! 1 CD for only $125! 2 CDs for
> $200!
> Get multiple copies for additional security and save $$$.
>
> All prices are in US funds and include Priority delivery within the
> US.
> COD charges are extra.
>
> Call for Canadian and overseas delivery.
>
> Connecticut residents, please add 6% sales tax.
>
> Long-term contracts are available at a deeply discounted price.
> Call
> for details.
>
> o We can embed individual serial numbers in the data on each CD
> for authenticity verification at no additional charge.
> You can't get that level of service from the major CD plants
> at any price.
>
> o We are adding new tape formats constantly. If you don't see
> your format listed here, please ask.
>
> Please call first to schedule your CD conversion and to confirm
> compatibility with your back-up software and hardware.
>
> Eternal Archive Solutions, Inc.
> PO Box 4402
> Waterbury, CT 06704-0402
> (203) 759-0574 voice
> (203) 759-0553 fax
>
>
> --- Maximus 2.01wb
> * Origin: Gateway to Hell (1:141/1130)
>
How much for just a dupe of a cd I had made, The reason is because my machine
gas broken!
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From: ED FEINS Number: 2577
To: JOHN PRITCHARD Date: 09/04/93 11:18p
Subj: OMNI CDROM DRIVE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Does anyone have experiance with the OMNI CD-ROM drive from
> Creative Labs? Particularly with a SoundBlaster 16.
The MONI drive is the new Panasonic Douple Speed Caddyless drive available at
computer shows for about $230 here on the east cost. I just got one and it is
plug compatible with my SBP-16. The OMNI sells for a bit over $300 but you can
buy the Panasonic version for about $230. Same drive.
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From: JD DAVIN Number: 2578
To: ALL Date: 09/06/93 1:02p
Subj: Support Shareware for $$ Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CAN YOU MAKE $15 to $75 PER HOUR
SUPPORTING AND DISTRIBUTING SHAREWARE SOFTWARE?
If you have a good working knowledge of computer applications and have some
spare time, we can show you how to help other computer users discover the
wealth of shareware titles available, gain a better knowledge of computers
and increase the value of their computer system.
For a complete 30 page report, send $12.95 (OFFER EXPIRES UNTIL 10/1/93).
(U.S. Dollars, write for foreign shipping costs)
TEAM PC SALES (TM)
PO BOX 1756
IOWA CITY, IA 52244-1756
[ ] Yes, send me the complete report on how to access, market and support
shareware software. I am anxious to learn how to earn $15-75 by helping others
in their home or office,. CHARGING BY THE HOUR FOR CONSULTATION, SOFTWARE
SETUP AND TRAINING, and want TEAM PC SALES to provide me with the following:
o An advertising format and sample ads I can use today
o Example uses and program lists I can give to my customers
o A generic shareware user's manual to hand to customers
o A general shareware user's manual YOU may want to use!
o Sources for shareware software - CD ROM/BBS/mail order
o How to set up your own BBS System for shareware support
o How to set up a fax back system for shareware sales and support
o How to find pre-packaged shareware software and display racks!
o Ways for you to spend more time with your hobby and earn money!
NAME: __________________________________________________________
ADDRESS: __________________________________________________________
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[ ] Please send me a catalog of your other manuals and products.
Please allow 2-4 weeks for delivery!
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 2579
To: TAPANI TUOMINEN Date: 08/29/93 3:36p
Subj: Cover cd 'pc mag' Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TT>GP>Odd.... I bought a copy of the issue in question in Greece, and mine
TT>GP>came with (one, two?) floppy diskette (although the cover said there
TT>GP>supposed to be a CD-ROM). Did I get cheated?
TT>I don't know but I can reveal that the CD in question is really not
TT>worth of anything. Only useful thing is few included TT and Type 1
Hmmm... I already called them; they promised to mail me a copy. I
guess I'll find out. Do you recall what kinds of fonts were included?
I wonder if they are ones that I don't have already (Too Many Typefonts
CD-ROM).
TT>fonts. All the PC-Magazine utilities included are ages old (newer
TT>versions do exist!) and for example there is version 93 (I think) of
TT>McAfees Scan when the current version is 107! All the other stuff are
Golly, version 93 isn't worth much today, that's for sure.
TT>demos or working models of mostly uninteresting software. The CD also
TT>has an awkward installation procedure
Does one _have_ to use the silly and obnoxious installation procedure,
or can you just try the programs on the disc as they are?
TT>menu-program before I removed the crap from my HD. If you want I will
TT>gladly sent my copy to you.
They promised to send me one. But thanks for the offer anyhow! :-)
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 2580
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 08/29/93 4:49p
Subj: 7TH GUEST. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BF>> PB> Does that mean we won't be able to get PAL video's here?
BF>>That's right! And also, we are legally not allowed to copy the NTSC tape t
BF>>PAL format - even for our own use - as that would infringe copyright!
BF>>It's a shame the Americans think they are the only people in the world!!
BF>It's a shame that Europe is the ONLY part of the world that still clings to
BF>incompatable-with-everything PAL standard....
It's worse here in France, which uses SECAM and (even worse) apparently
a form of SECAM that's used NOWHERE else in the world.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 2581
To: DUANE ELLISON Date: 08/29/93 4:55p
Subj: CD-ROM BUNDLES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DE>My wife and I have recently been looking into purchasing a CD-Rom, Sound
DE>Card, and software bundle such as the Fusion CD 16. I was curious what
DE>people think of these bundles and of the hardware included in the
Bundles are sometimes a real good deal and sometimes a very bad one,
depending on what discs are included in the bundle.
I got several Software Toolworks discs in the bundle with my drive...
the encyclopedia is at least very satisfactory, the reference library
disc is really neat... but their US/World atlas disc is quite
disappointing (the US Street Atlas/Global Explorer discs are FAR
superior).
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 2582
To: JOHN ROBERTSON Date: 08/29/93 5:18p
Subj: Speedcache & disc caddies Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JR>prices of caddies you should be aware that there are copies of the licensed
JR>caddies out there... easily recognized by several facets 1) The clear lid
JR>steel shutter and the USA version is aluminum. The copies will jam in your c
JR>player or they will cause your spin motor to suffer from excessive drag. The
JR>better cd players such as SONY or TOSHIBA will spit these out as they slow d
JR>the motor from being uneven and causing the coupler to drag, I don't know wh
JR>happens in the TEXEL (UAC) drive but I wouldn't want ot find out. So in clos
The simple way to make sure you don't get stuck with bad caddies is to
ONLY BUY A CADDYLESS DRIVE. No reason to have to keep buying those
stupid caddies forever!
CADDIES.... JUST SAY NO!
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 2583
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/29/93 5:20p
Subj: US national phonedisc Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BO>>> I am looking for the above named disc sets. NOT PROPHONE!
BO>>> Does anyone sell or have info on these?
BO>Ron, " Phone Disk USA " !! Comes in business or residental versions.
What, if anything, is the advantage of PhoneDisk USA over ProPhone (I
have the 3-disc prophone set)?
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 2584
To: DOUG DAGGER Date: 08/31/93 8:54p
Subj: CD-ROM's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DD>I'm new to CD-ROM's and was wondering what kind I should get. I'm only 15
DD>and on a limited budget. If anyone has info on any CD-ROM which would be un
DD>say $700, and has the best sound and graphics for that price, please tell me
The best deal is the Mitsumi for about $200. Add some kind of sound
card, I get SoundBlaster 2.0-compatible clones (not the best but a great
value) for about $50, or a little more with a pair of speakers.
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From: TAPANI TUOMINEN Number: 2585
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/03/93 7:37a
Subj: Cover cd 'pc mag' Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GP>Hmmm... I already called them; they promised to mail me a copy. I
GP>guess I'll find out. Do you recall what kinds of fonts were included
GP>I wonder if they are ones that I don't have already (Too Many Typefon
GP>CD-ROM).
Most probably you don't miss those fonts then. None of them looks
anything spectacular to me. Some names of the TT-fonts: Calisto,
Headline, Photina Ultra Bold etc. Letraset type 1 fonts included are not
better either.
GP>TT>fonts. All the PC-Magazine utilities included are ages old (newer
GP>TT>versions do exist!) and for example there is version 93 (I think)
GP>TT>McAfees Scan when the current version is 107! All the other stuff
GP>Golly, version 93 isn't worth much today, that's for sure.
The magazine itself had lots of nice articles (although a little bit too
English to my taste) but giving this kind of crap as a "valuable free
present" is simply ridiculous. But then, we should remember that such a
thing as free lunch does not exist. "Over 170 Mb of free software, tons
of utilities, free fonts and full working models" that's how the
PC-Magazine in question describes the CD included. ROTFL
GP>Does one _have_ to use the silly and obnoxious installation procedure
GP>or can you just try the programs on the disc as they are?
Some of them you can try, yes. But finding the stuff from that jungle of
subdirectories is not an easy task.
GP>They promised to send me one. But thanks for the offer anyhow! :-)
Don't be disappointed when you see it. At least it will be useful as
a nice colourful coaster.
.
.
.
GP>The simple way to make sure you don't get stuck with bad caddies is t
GP>ONLY BUY A CADDYLESS DRIVE. No reason to have to keep buying those
GP>stupid caddies forever!
GP>
GP> CADDIES.... JUST SAY NO!
Campaigning against caddies again? ;-) This is a matter of taste of
course but I think that CD:s with caddies are something indespensable.
CD-disks are not so fault tolerant after all. I do need regularly 3-4
CD:s and have to switch between them often while I am working. Caddies
cut unnecessary extra hassle of this process and I can freely keep those
CD:s among all the stuff on my slightly over-crowded desk without
needing to worry about damaging the disks. Of course this arrangement
requires that you have an own caddy for each CD or at least for most
frequently used ones.
Also in a CD-ROM drive with a tray sliding in and out there are
necessarily some extra very delicate precision components forming a
potential source of troubles when the drive gets older and worn whereas
drives with caddies are built mostly in very basic and sturdy way and
can take pretty rough handling without complaining. The only
disadvantage of caddies is that they cost quite a lot but compared to
the price of a CD-disk it is after all almost acceptable.
Tapani Tuominen
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From: BOB JENKINS Number: 2586
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/06/93 9:37a
Subj: Price List Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please mail me your list. Thanks
B.Jenkins
RR#6
Smiths Falls
Ont. Canada
K7A 4S7
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From: DAVID CHILDRESS Number: 2587
To: ALL Date: 09/06/93 9:06a
Subj: CD-ROM questions Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi All!
I have a few questions that I would like to ask about CD-ROM systems.
1). What is the difference between multi-session and single-session?
2). Is there any problem hooking up a SCSI compatable CD-ROM system
to a IDE type computer?
3). Does anyone have a good recommendation on a CD-ROM system\bundle?
4). What should be considered the minimum access times to look for?
5). Anything else you care to mention that would be helpful? Your
.02 matters. <G>
TFTI!
-=Dave=-
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2588
To: ALL Date: 09/05/93 1:07a
Subj: A FEW CD'S . . . . . Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
1001 Utilities (New!).........13.00 Mayo Clinic MPC...............28.00
5-Star Premium Windows........27.00 Mega Clipart (New!)...........29.00
7th Guest.....................45.00 Microsoft Bookshelf MPC.......56.00
9000 Sounds (New!)............30.50 Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00
Adventures of Willy Beamish...30.00 Microsoft Golf MPC (New!).....58.00
Aircraft Encyclopedia.........36.00 Microsoft Musical Instruments.57.00
American Business Phonebk 93..39.00 MIDI Music Shop...............27.00
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: ED MELO Number: 2589
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/06/93 10:13a
Subj: SALE CD-ROM'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am interested in getting a CD catalog. Please send it to:
Ed Melo
9 Lexington Manor
Glenmoore, PA 19343
Also, what are the shipping charges?
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From: RJ KULMAN Number: 2590
To: BRUCE CLAUNCH Date: 09/04/93 10:34p
Subj: NEC cd-37 lockup Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BC> HELP!!
BC>
BC>I just brought myself a new MB 386sx40mhz , when I installed everything but
BC>NEC scsi board everything works fine
BC>but as soon as I put in the scsi sometimes power will not come on
BC>the computer and when it does come on it locksup and the only way out is to
the fact that you have a new MB has nothing to do with the problem. It
would seem that the LOCATIION of the card may be the actual problem
First, try another slot, making sure that the card is not near/pushing on
any other chip on the MB. You may be touching a chip, or something
that is "shorting" the power
** Good luck **
_OR_ your MB is not well grounded. Tighten all the screws mounts
and recheck everything AGAIN !!
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From: RJ KULMAN Number: 2591
To: ALL Date: 09/04/93 10:35p
Subj: cdrom -Toshiba 3101 Refer: NONE
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Just bought a newer faster cdrom... So...I have the following for sale
IBM / Toshiba Internal CD-ROM #3101 1/2Ht SCSI $199
150K Transfer Rate 250ms
These were recently replaced by the current double spin 3401's
RJ Kulman 718 968 9167
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From: RJ KULMAN Number: 2592
To: BARRY MEAD Date: 09/04/93 10:38p
Subj: Sony 535 speedup Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BM>After Talking to Sony and Trantor Systems (formerly Adaptek) I was told
the other way around...Adaptec is TRANTOR
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From: BILL GEE Number: 2593
To: DAN WALDRON Date: 09/06/93 9:19a
Subj: Novell Netware Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DW>Hi All,
DW>I am familiar with the hardware side of LANs, and Netware Lite and
DW>Lantastic, but don't know where to start when it comes to Netware. Can
DW>anybody recommend any good "laymans" guides to learning a bit about it?
Can't help you on this one. Stateside, there are many tonnes of Netware
books. I imagine that some of them have made there way down under...
DW>Am I correct in assuming that Netware requires a dedicated server? How
DW>is DOS affected by Netware running? Any installations that I have
DW>participated in have only involved thin-ether, but I'd be interested in
DW>knowing the advantages (apart from trunk length) that thick ethernet
DW>provides.
Netware 3.x and 4.x require dedicated servers. Netware 2.2 can still be run
in non-dedicated mode, but I do not recommend it. There are too many
problems just waiting to bite, such as trying to get Windows to run in
Enhanced mode. On a dedicated server, 2.2 is very stable. I would
recommend that you get 3.11 if you can afford it since the setup and
configuration are MUCH easier. You really only appreciate the difference
when you have to put a different network card in the server.
Remember that in most systems the server need only have the largest hard
drive. I have run Netware 3 on a 386sx-16 server with 486 workstations and
had no difficulty with slow response. The faster processors are really only
necessary if you are going to run server processes like SQL servers.
As for thick ether, it offers three things: 1) Longer trunk runs, 2) Better
rejection of interference, and 3) Much higher prices.
Bill Gee
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From: JD BROWN Number: 2594
To: KEN HARVEY Date: 09/06/93 2:43p
Subj: CD ROM disk cache Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
KH> MW> DS> Does anyone out there know of a good disk cache for a CD-ROM?
KH> JB>
KH> JB> OS/2
KH>
KH> If he was being serious, you most certainly weren't :) OS/2 while the best
KH> multitasker and with many a function caches the CDROMS but not that well.
KH> In fact not many programs cache CD-ROMS well unless you are fortunate
enough
KH> to have a 1 Gigabyte PC and you use 660megs for a CD-ROM cache! Just that
KH> most systems won't benefit from a CD-ROM cache.
Sure I was......I have run machines with many different so called DOS
based caches installed.........bit for bit, byte for byte,...OS/2's throughput
is faster.
Across the room, a Clone 486/50 with 32MB RAM, DOS 5.0, Hypercache,
and and 3 IBM CDROM's (Made by Toshiba) connected to a 1542b.
Sitting here as I type,,,, A PS/2 9595OMT, 486/50, 32MB RAM, OS/2 2.1 and 14
IBM CDROM's (Made by Toshiba)....Care to take a guess at which
one is faster, even accessing multiple CDROM's including throughput to the
network?
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From: JD BROWN Number: 2595
To: KEN HARVEY Date: 09/06/93 3:33p
Subj: Text Encyclopedia Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
KH> Hello,
KH>
KH> Am looking for a TEXT ONLY Encyclopedia that is fairly current. Can anyone
KH> recommend one from experience? Want to put it up as a door on a BBS so I
KH> don't want pictures. I have heard of them in the past but now with
KH> multi-media the "in" thing they are somewhat of a dinosaur. Any
KH> suggestions?
KH>
Toolworks Reference Library is Text only, but I am not sure how
you could get past their copyright.
I had one on line for sometime, and was advised to take it off-line
after our attorney read the copyright and license info....
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From: JD BROWN Number: 2596
To: TONY STOTT Date: 09/06/93 3:39p
Subj: Your Tagline Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TS> If you answer yes to any one question, please depoliticise your taglines
TS> Thanking you from downunder - please don't ask us Aussies to tell you
TS> about OUR politics:)
Here,
Have a few on me....
*Al Gore never met a Spending Bill he didn't vote for.
First, you put the lawyers up against a wall. . .
"Clinton" the chia-pet of chief executives everywhere.
They test jet engines by firing Arkansas poultry into them.
Error opening CLINTON.LIE Cannot find TRAITOR2.USA
If outlaws were gunned, then.....no more outlaws!!
Clinton - From a chicken in every pot, to a chicken who smoked pot!
Shhhhh...Be vewy vewy quiet. I'm hunting Spotted Owls...
Impeach CLINTON and her Husband!
AIDS is a virus; Clinton is a punishment from God.
Liberals are of some use, if only to set a bad example!
Will the real President PLEASE get back in the White House!
Bill Clinton - A mandate in his own mind.
Liberal Tactic #2: When caught lying, go into hysterics
Error loading CLINTON.LIE. Unable to recover COUNTRY.USA.
CLINTON (n) see also gay loving, draft dodging, pot smoking, womanizer
Never, ever trust a draft dodger - Rush Limbaugh
Bill Clinton: the Milli Vanilli of presidents
Clinton: #1 reason to require truth in political ads
I am Clinton of BORG. We only assimilate those making $30K or more
I have the heart of a liberal... in a jar on my desk!
If it's not cruel and unusual, it's not punishment.
"How does Al Gore spell potato? T-A-T-E-R"--R. Limbaugh
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From: JD BROWN Number: 2597
To: RONALD LEON Date: 09/06/93 4:23p
Subj: Os/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RL> Al Koller beamed onto the Enterprise and said:
RL>
RL> AK>Hi Ron. The OS/2 update package is available to anyone with a previou
RL> AK>version of OS/2 OR any prior DOS....
RL>
RL> IBM says otherwise.
Here is the real deal for the IBM OS/2 2.1 Upgrade.
To receive the rebate YOU must provide proof of purchase of 2.0
not limited to,,, Reciept, Proof of License, etc...
ANYONE, may upgrade to 2.1 from any version at the upgrade price.
This includes, OS/2 1.X, 2.X or DOS.
JD Brown
Member
IBM'S Developer Assistance Program
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From: JD BROWN Number: 2598
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/06/93 8:20p
Subj: CDROM Slows BBS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LR> LR> The best network solution I have found for
LR> LR> CD-ROM drives is a CD-ROM
LR> LR> network called CD-SHARE.
LR>
LR> JB> The best network solution I have found for multiple CDROMS, is
LR> JB> OS/2 2.1 and Lan Server 3.0.
LR>
LR>
LR> That's true. I should have said the best peer-peer DOS solution.
LR>
LR> Les
OS/2, Lan 3.0, and the DOS Requester.....
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From: STEVE PROCTOR Number: 2599
To: ALL Date: 09/06/93 4:04p
Subj: Mitsumi Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
How does one order the OS/2 CDROM Driver for the Mitsumi CDROM?
I am interested in purchasing it.
Steve
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 2600
To: ALL Date: 09/06/93 9:34p
Subj: BB#1 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello All!
My deal fell under so I still have BB#1 for sale or trade. In need of 386
mother board, simms, cd player, tape backup or some cd's. Lets make a deal as
everyone knows this cd is hot.
Pat
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From: RONALD LEON Number: 2601
To: DAVE REED Date: 09/06/93 5:24p
Subj: Your Tagline Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Dave Reed beamed onto the Enterprise and said:
DR> RL>> * WinQwk 2.0 a#435 * America Held Hostage: Day 223 of the Social
DR> RL>> Takeover!
DR>
DR> TS> Ronald, just a couple of questions:-
DR> TS> If you answer yes to any one question, please depoliticise your t
DR> TS> Thanking you from downunder - please don't ask us Aussies to tell
DR> TS> about OUR politics:)
DR>It's JUST a tagline! Besides, when some socialist a**hole can get ele
DR>40-some% of the popular vote, against the will of the majority of our
DR>there's going to be a LOT of angry people! At least allow them to ven
DR>little steam in a harmless tagline.
DR>
DR>Thanks for your understanding. We Americans are in the middle of a cr
DR>here.
Amen Brother!
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From: ANDY STEERE Number: 2602
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/04/93 12:45a
Subj: Re: PANASONIC Refer: NONE
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>The spex I have for the Panasonic CR562B state 320ms *AVERAGE* access
>in single speed mode and 450ms *AVERAGE* access in double speed mode...
>The drive does, however seem to be able to perofrm better than these
>specifications.
I am reading the CR-562-B instruction manual as I type:
Access Time:
Random access time *3 (NV mode *1) 380ms typical
Random access time (DV mode *2) 320ms typical
Fullstroke access time *4 (NV mode) 660ms typical
Fullstroke access time (DV mode) 640ms typical
Notes:
*1 - NV mode: Normal Velocity mode ("SingleSpeed")
*2 - DV mode: Double Velocity mode ("DoubleSpeed")
*3 - Random access time: AVERAGE of Data read over the whole
area from 00 min. 02 sec. 00 block to
59 min. 58 sec. 74 block more than 2000
times including latency and layered
error correction time.
*4 - Fullstroke access time: From 00 min. 02. sec. 00 block to 59
min. 58 sec. 74 block including latency
and layered error correction time.
In other words... DoubleSpeed=320ms(avg), SingleSpeed=380ms(avg). This
may explain why there is some confusion about the CR-562-B and the 380ms
figure. When operated in DV mode (not sure when the SingleSpeed mode is
ever used), this is a 320ms drive.
The manual also lists the MTBF (Mean Time Before Failure) at 25,000 POH
(power on hours?). Don't know how this compares to other drives.
Andy Steere
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 2603
To: DON BOSMAN Date: 09/05/93 11:51a
Subj: Re: Cdrom Systems Refer: NONE
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LR> BO>Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $799.00 Pioneer
DB> DMR604X Bare -$1199.
DB> Thanks for the input.
LR> DB> they fit in a 5.25 in slot
LR> You're kidding, right? No, they don't fit in a
DB> 5.25" FH drive bay. LR>Heck, the CARTRIDGES hardly fit in a 5.25" slot,
let alone
DB> The reason I asked if they would fit in a 5.25 slot was the ad for
DB> "bare" drives. I wondered what they were meant for if not an internal
DB> drive slot. I still wonder.
"Bare" does not mean without a case or power supply. It means without
a controller or software (or at least not much software: the lesat under which
the drive can run.
Les
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 2604
To: ALL Date: 09/06/93 9:45p
Subj: Audi CD's, Where to buy? Refer: NONE
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Anybody know where I can buy MUSIC CD's wholesale for re-selling?
Thanks,
Adrian Salas
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From: SCOTT DAVIS Number: 2605
To: TONY STOTT Date: 09/07/93 3:50a
Subj: YOUR TAGLINE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RL> * WinQwk 2.0 a#435 * America Held Hostage: Day 223 of the Socialist
RL>Takeover!
TS>(Sorry Bob for being off-topic)
TS>Ronald, just a couple of questions:-
TS>Do you have elections in your country?
TS>Do you know that people living in other countries have NO interest
TS>in your domestic politics?
TS>Do you know that many people reckon ALL politics is s**t?
TS>Do you know that this is the CDROM echo?
TS>If you answer yes to any one question, please depoliticise your taglines
TS>Thanking you from downunder - please don't ask us Aussies to tell you
TS>about OUR politics:)
Well, considering he's in Tampa.. He had better say yes to the first one..
l8r,
Scott
TS>
TS>
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From: KEN HARVEY Number: 2606
To: DON PRYOR Date: 09/06/93 9:53a
Subj: Re: n.o. 9 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DP> Is NightOwl 9 BBS Ready?
Yes it is with complete FILES.BBS text files support. Most files have
File_id.diz in them as well. Perfect for a BBS.
Ken Harvey
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From: PATRICK SIGLIN Number: 2607
To: SCOTT DAVIS Date: 09/07/93 2:59p
Subj: YOUR TAGLINE Refer: NONE
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From: DANNY BANISTER Number: 2608
To: IAN DOW Date: 09/06/93 3:54p
Subj: Modems Refer: NONE
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>At the beginning of this year I obtained a comms/fax modem made by a company
>called Dallas Fax, in Texas.
>It is an internal V.42bis model 9696V.
>It came with Quick Link 2 software ( which is a combined comms/fax program )
>I have considerable difficulty getting this modem to operate satisfactorily.
>I have tried other software, but with limited success.
>I have tried to contact the makers in Dallas, but have been informed by the
>phone company operator that they have moved, and cannot be traced.
>Does anyone know of the location of this company, or the location of an
>agent of Dallas Fax ??
>Does anyone have experience of using this make of modem ??
>If so, would you let me have your voice line number
Sorry to tell you, but they went out of business.
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From: MARK WALKER Number: 2609
To: MIKE ZAREK Date: 09/06/93 6:03a
Subj: Re: MANPOWER - NEW GAY CD-ROM Refer: NONE
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In a message of <04 Sep 93 19:36:00>, Mike Zarek (1:363/179) writes:
>In other words, it's *moral* if white, Republican Christian folks do it, and
immoral for everyone else. ^^^^^^^^^^I think you forgot this
<g>
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From: DON BOSMAN Number: 2610
To: PAUL SZUDZIK Date: 09/05/93 10:14p
Subj: Phone Directory Cd'S For Refer: NONE
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PS>DB> Every listing I have checked is inaccurate in
PS>DB> at least one area. My residential number is 4 years out of date, my
PS>Thanks I was going to buy this this weekend at the Shelby, NC HamFest.
PS> Was this the full blown 7 ( or 8 ) disk set, or was this the 3 Disk Set?
It is the seven disk set.
For what it's worth, you are listed at 1204 Cxixxxixx Cixxxx
Raleigh, NC 27615
The phone number given matches the one information has for you.
Please drop a line if this is accurate, if so it will be the first one.
Honest. I am keeping track, because I told the company I would be
informing folks about their product. I have to keep track in case
they try to make a stink. So far, I can document every inaccuracy
I have found.
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2611
To: DON PRYOR Date: 09/07/93 12:41a
Subj: Re: n.o. 9 Refer: NONE
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>> Is NightOwl 9 BBS Ready?
Yes it is Don and in stock for $25.
If your interested, please feel free to give us a call at 216-225-3263
anytime and we'll be glad to help.
Boris Osadciw
... Oh never mind!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2612
To: ALEXANDER ANDREYEV Date: 09/07/93 12:41a
Subj: Re: Wanted: cheap used CDROM disks.... Refer: NONE
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>> Hello dear All!
>> Big troubles in Russia now: I have only one CDROM disk!
>> I need several subjs
>> Topic: MS DOS/WINDOWS/UNIX/programming, database, info, books,
>> music.
Not a problem Alexander, we have several cd's to select from. So, please
feel free to drop us a line via the fidonet address below and we'll be
happy to assist you further.
BTW: We have several customers looking for copies of Russian DOS, might
be possiable to work out some sort of trade.
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... Simply more bang for your bucks!
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2613
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/06/93 7:22p
Subj: Re: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
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Hi Les!
On 09-04-93 Leslie Rhorer wrote to Rowan Evans...
LR> RE> cheaper for you to get
LR> LR> RE> caddies than it is for the average user....
LR> LR> Perhaps. Margins are pretty slim on that sort of thing.
LR>
LR> RE> Current Aussie prices (retail, not special deals, etc)
LR> RE> for a single caddy is around $A15.00 to $A20.00. This is
LR> RE> the price if you walk into any
LR> RE> computer store that stocks them and ask to buy a caddy.....
LR>
LR> Here in the U.S. at least, one can also walk to the shelf of that
LR> self same computer store and buy a box of 1.44M floppies
LR> for the wonderful price of US$15. Only a fool (or someone
LR> in an emergency) buys commodity items at that sort of
LR> place. Caddies can be easily gotten off the shelf in
LR> several of our local discount warehouses for US$4 in packs
LR> of ten.
Well, we don't really have the same type of large discount stores that
you have in the states....
And I'd class CD-ROM caddies in a slightly different category to that
of diskettes.... diskettes are consumables, once you've written stuff
to them, unless you want to delete the data, the diskette is unusable....
Caddies, OTOH, are re-usable, as all you have to do is take the CD-ROM
out and replace it....
LR> RE> I believe that the viewpoint is a realistic one.... Especially
LR> RE> when you talk to a user that says that he will have 1500 odd
LR> RE> machines with CD-ROM drives in them... Having 2 or 3 CD-ROMs in
LR> RE> separate caddies adds (at best $A15.00 - cheapest price I've
LR> RE> seen for caddies is $A5.00) then
LR> RE> multiply this by 1500, comes to $A22,500.00 additional.... the
LR> RE> worst case makes this figure around $A70,000.00..... these are not
LR> RE> insubstantial amounts to do what you recommend....
LR>
LR> Neither is the cost of replacing 200 or so CD-ROM
LR> titles a year due to damage. Furthermore, this represents
LR> a capital expenditure, always easier to justify than an
LR> operating expense (which replacing damaged goods would be).
Well, the plan with these machines is to run training courses on them off a
CD_ROM, the courses will be written in-house, and updated quarterly....
The damage aspect is thus reduced.....
The other point with this project is that production costs (excluding the
intellectual properties thereon) of 1,500 odd CD-ROMs is approximately
$A20.00. You are saying that to protect a $20.00 CD-ROM, used for 3 to
6 months, an investment of 25% of the cost (at least) of the ROM should
be made??
LR> In addition, the time saved in not having to have several
LR> hundred employees fiddle with caddy-less units can be
LR> substantial.
The time taken to find a CD-ROM in an unlabelled caddy would be about the
same as the time to take a CD-ROM out of a clearly labelled jewel case!
LR> RE> And we then come back to the fact that show an "average" user a
LR> RE> CD-ROM drive with a caddy and a CD-ROM drive without a caddy
LR> RE> and the user will, 9 times out of 10 select the non-caddy drive.....
LR>
LR> This is supposed to impress me? The one COMMODITY
LR> that is never in short supply is ignorance.
Why is it ignorance to select a product that is *VERY* close in operation
to the user's home Audio CD player??
The cheapest double-speed SCSI CD-ROM I have seen is the NEC CDR-55, and
it is in no way close to what people are used to (open flimsy door,
insert caddy, close door... to eject push *FIRMLY* on the manual eject
button)....
Whereas the Panasonic is cheaper and has none of these problems!
LR> RE> My own personal loathing for caddies dates back to 1989 and a
LR> RE> CD-ROM drive (I think it was a Philips) with a "claw" type
LR> RE> caddy that, although
LR> RE> it looked universal was a "this side up" type caddy.... The
LR> RE> trauma that
LR> RE> this drive inflicted was such that I vowed *NEVER* to buy a
LR> RE> CD-ROM drive with a caddy....
LR>
LR> One poor implementation (or perhaps just a bad
LR> unit) does not an engineering mistake make.
The caddy in this instance was *EXTREMELY POOR* engineering!
LR> The fact that
LR> you had a bad CD-ROM in no way reflects on the performance
LR> of CD-ROM's or any associated equipment.
And the fact that a CD-ROM drive has a tray doesn't affect its performance!
We basically have a disagreement here in philosophy in that you like
caddies and I would prefer a drive without (the current crop of
caddy drives aren't tooooo bad).....
I am reminded of a recent review in an Australian magazine of CD-ROM drives.
In this review, there were caddy type drives *WITHOUT* the dust door of
most of the modern caddy CD-ROm drives... but the reviwer singled out the
SONY CDU-31A, the only TRAY drive reviewed as being susceptible to dust!
The Sony tray is a close fit, and the only disadvantage is that it doesn't
retract withing a certain time if you don't insert a CD-ROM.... the
Panasonic does this....
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2614
To: MATT CHAPMAN Date: 09/06/93 7:33p
Subj: Non MM CD-ROM Refer: NONE
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Hi Matt!
On 09-03-93 Matt Chapman wrote to All...
MC> Can anyone point out a CD-ROM drive (ide) that is suited for non
MC> multimedia uses.
MC> ie: does not require a sound card (such as the prop SB), reasonably
MC> cheap, (available in Australia).
Haunt your local dealer for a Panasonic CR562B drive... If you have an
Osborne dealer handy, ask him for the CD200 kit (but check that you get
the CR562B drive with it, as I am told that they still have the older
CR52x drive and will sell this to home users)....
This drive is available with an 8-bit paddle card for around $450.00....
AND you get the chance, should you change your mind later, to attach it
to a SoundBlaster Pro/16/16 ASP card!
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2615
To: DAVID WINGER Date: 09/06/93 7:38p
Subj: Misleading Answers Refer: NONE
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Hi David!
On 09-04-93 David Winger wrote to Tony Stott...
DW> TS> DW> SL> Can you produce your own CD's?
DW> TS> DW>Yes, but you need a WORM drive for that.
DW> TS>
DW> TS> WRONG! A Writeable cdrom drive will ALSO enable you to produce
DW> TS> your own one-off cdrom disks
DW> A writable CD-ROM is a WORM!
DW> ^^^--------Read ONLY Memory.
Ummm, no..... WORM drives use a different media to CD-R (CD-ROM Recordable)
drives.... WORM has, I believe, a magnetic component to what it does, as
well as a different format to CD-R.
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2616
To: COLIN BELL Date: 09/06/93 7:58p
Subj: Drive speed Refer: NONE
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Hi Colin!
On 09-04-93 Colin Bell wrote to All...
CB> I am considering putting a scsi cd rom drive online on my
CB> BBS. I don't 4 really want to spend too much on
CB> the drive but I have to be sure that it
CB> will be able to keep up with people downloading. My modem is 14400 BPS
CB> & the serial port is locked at 19200 bps. I noticed that the NEC drives
CB> that the local store carries (the cheaper ones) have 500ms access speed.
CB> Is that fast enough to keep up with my modem. My HD's are all quantums
CB> that are about 15ms so I thought 500ms was a BIG difference. I will
CB> later be getting a multispin cdrom for my personal machine so don't
CB> really care if the BBS one can't do photo-cd's or whatever.
Shouldn't be a problem... I have noticed a lot of msgs from the US where
sysops are using slow Mutsumi drives.... Once the CD-ROM has done its seek,
then the data flows from there.... Its not as though the CD-ROM has to
continually seek back to the directory...
CB> What speed is the Pioneer DRM-600A ?? coz I notice a few sysops use that.
CB> How does the Pioneer drive handle it if 2 people are online & they try
CB> & access files on different disks at the same time? 8) I presume it is
CB> 1 mechanism with a carousel or is it 6 mechanisms & able to access each
CB> at the same time.
Larry Lewis at Prophet TBBS runs three of these drives.... the files
are copied to a scratch area on a HDD before download commences...
These drives use a cartridge mechanism.....
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: MARTIN TAYLOR Number: 2617
To: DEAN MACKIN Date: 08/26/93 11:07p
Subj: Re: 16 bit cards Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Dean.
> Have you or anyone else had any problems with the CDrom drive locking up
> on the SB16ASP Card.
No. To date the CD and CD-16 have performed OK. However, that's no guarentee
that they won't play up.
Cheers,
Martin
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From: GRANT BEATTIE Number: 2618
To: ERIC HO Date: 09/01/93 9:01p
Subj: Dr. CD-ROM shareware Refer: NONE
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Hi Eric:
I'm intested in getting a shareware CD that can be used with REMOTE ACCESS
easily (without modification). do you know of any ones that have an emphasis
on GIF files or completely filled with GIF's? That'd be great.
Seeya Round
Grant
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From: JOHNM OSBORNE Number: 2619
To: ALL Date: 09/02/93 9:11a
Subj: Pro Audio Studio 16XL Refer: NONE
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I understand that Media Vision are planning to release a sound card using
"sampled sounds" rather than FM synthesised sounds. My experience with midi
equipment suggests this board will have far superior sound.
Does any one out htere know more about this new board?
When will it be released?
What will be the price relative to a standard PAS16?
Will a PAS16 be upgradeable or will a new board be required?
Will this new board make Yamaha based boards "old hat"?
Do Media Visions' competitors have a response?
I would be intersted to hear the "experts" response.
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From: DAVID KOLLE Number: 2620
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/02/93 7:37p
Subj: Snail Mail CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Greetings from OZ ...... Boris,
The Snail Mail parcel of CD's arrived on my doorstep on the 1st of September
and I noticed that your post mark was the 30th of August !!!
Now that is sooommmee ffaaasstt snail !!!!
Thank you for your excellent service .... Kind regards
David
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From: LAURIE BATT Number: 2621
To: DAVID WINGER Date: 09/05/93 8:53a
Subj: Misleading Answers Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
G'day David, In a message on <Sep 04>, you said :
DW> On 09-03-93 Tony Stott wrote to David Winger...
DW>
TS>> On 08-31-93, David Winger elucidated to Sunny Leung:
TS>>
TS>> DW> SL> Can you produce your own CD's?
TS>> DW>Yes, but you need a WORM drive for that.
TS>>
TS>> WRONG! A Writeable cdrom drive will ALSO enable you to
TS>> produce your own one-off cdrom disks
DW> A writable CD-ROM is a WORM!
DW> ^^^--------Read ONLY Memory.
A worm drive is not the same as CDROM
The media used is different to the cdrom and therefore cannot be used in a
cdrom drive.
The Writable CDROM may be able to Write Once and Read Many but is not WORM ,
which is a different size disk.
TS>> Guess what? WRONG AGAIN! You are describing floptical
TS>> technology, magneto optical disks do not work that way,
TS>> neither do cdroms.
DW>
DW> Sorry, Right again!
DW> I never said CD-ROMS work that way. Read the message again.
DW> Flopticals and Magneto Optical Disks are supposed to be the
DW> same thing.
NO not true
DW> THE SYSGEN FLOPTICAL
DW> A normal floppy drive just steps the heads across
DW> the disk in preset increments. At the same time
DW>
DW> It should also be noted that floptical drives can
DW> read standard 1.44 meg and 720k 3.5" floppy disks.
DW>
You have described a floptical.
The Magneto Optical is a totally different thing and not in any way related to
the floptical which is only available in 20MB and 128MB flavours. The Magneto
optical is in the 500MB+ range. The Media used is also totally different .Uses
the laser to free up an element which can be changed magnetically.
Laurie
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From: LAURIE BATT Number: 2622
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/05/93 9:15a
Subj: CD authoring Refer: NONE
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In a msg on <Sep 04 >, Rowan Evans of 3:711/413 writes:
RE>
RE> Costs are around $A1,800.00 for the glass master and then
RE> $1.85 or so per CD-ROM in lots of 1,000 (they'll do
RE> smaller lots at higher prices!)
RE>
RE> This works out to around $A20.00 per CD-ROM for 1,000
Rowan
I hope you are not the accountant for the bank you work for. <G>
According to my calculations 1000 X $1.85 = $1850
1800 + 1850 = $3650
3650 /1000 = $3.65 per disc
Where did the $20 come from
Laurie
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From: TERRY MENZIES Number: 2623
To: ALL Date: 09/04/93 9:40p
Subj: Cd size? Refer: NONE
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Hi.
This is all new to me....
I am looking to buy a cd rom drive. The one I am looking at uses a max
of 680 mb disks, is this ok or should I go for something bigger?
What is the average CD GAME size?
The unit is selling for A$399 and comes with sofware drivers for use with
Windows and plays music CD's.
The guy told me that it's access time is 350ms and is Kodak Photo CD
compatible..(Whatever that is.)
All double dutch to me!
Thanks.
TM. 8-)
... This tagline is made just for All
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From: TERRY MENZIES Number: 2624
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/04/93 9:58p
Subj: Address? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Boris.
Can you give me an postal address so I can get a catalogue?
TM.
... Z80 Programmers? Where?
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From: TERRY MENZIES Number: 2625
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/04/93 11:13p
Subj: Re: my new cd-rom! help Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Leslie Rhorer to Lisa Hutter <=-
LH> Hi All,
LH> I've just recently installed a panisonic CD-Rom and I'm not sure how to
LH> get the most out of it...I thought that I'd be able to play musical CD's
LH> while working in Windows, etc...Of course this isn't the only reason I
LH> made this purchase but I'd thought it would be a fun feature.
LH> Can anyone give me some advice as to how to make the most of my new
LH> "toy"?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
A very good question......
LR> Dump Windows and get OS/2.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
A bloody stupid answer! It did not offer anything of worth.
An answer to this would have been good for me and many others.
TM.
... ARRRRRGGGHHH!!!! ... Tension breaker, had to be done.
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From: TERRY MENZIES Number: 2626
To: TONY STOTT Date: 09/04/93 11:23p
Subj: Re: oz pricing Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Tony Stott to Mike Avila <=-
MA>I feel for you people there. Buying CD equipment
MA>and discs (and all computer equipment?) must really set you back.
TS> Don't feel too bad Mike, in general we get paid enough Oz dollars to
TS> afford the goodies, and at the same time we get to live in the best
TS> country! (big grin)
I'll second that.
Yo Tony, Howzit going?
TM.
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From: SUNNY LEUNG Number: 2627
To: SEAN TUDOR Date: 09/05/93 8:16p
Subj: 7th Guest CD-ROM Refer: NONE
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Hi Sean,
You were saying ...
ST> I am running the 7th Guest on a CR-562-B and a Sound Blaster 16.
ST> The game runs fine BUT the music is so loud I can barely hear the
ST> characters talking in the game. Does anyone else have this problem ?
ST> Could it be due to the fact that the game is using a Sound Blaster Pro
ST> OPL/3 driver that is not entirely compatible with the SB16.
I've got a SB16 ASP connected to a CR521 - wanted a CR562, but ran out of
money :-(. When running T7G I've got the loud music, soft speech problem too.
What you do is use the SB16SET mixer before loading T7G (in your Autoexec.bat
or in DOS). Push the VOC level up, and set the MIDI level lower. Then you
shouldn't have a problem with music and sound.
Regards, Sunny.
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From: ALAN WHITEMORE Number: 2628
To: ALL Date: 09/05/93 11:39a
Subj: Panasonic 562B + SB mono Refer: NONE
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Hello All!
Is there any trick to setting up a Panasonic 562B CD-ROM with a Mono 8 bit
SB card?
The CD-ROM drive is working fine, but I want to enable the sound through my
old mono SB card (Ver 2). Do I connect the CD-ROM drive to it's controller
card with the 4 wire cable, and then plug a connecter from the external red
and white jacks on the controller card to the line-in on the SB card?
Alan...
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From: TONY STOTT Number: 2629
To: BRAD ORR Date: 09/06/93 9:32a
Subj: Cd Rom Drive Sound Refer: NONE
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On 08-31-93, in a colourful display of the English language, Brad Orr said
to All:-
BO>Hya.
BO>
BO>I have a question about my CDROM drive. I have a Texel DM3401
BO>( an internal double speed drive) and there is a headphone jack
BO>on the front of the drive that I have _never_ been able to get sound
BO>from using music cd's. What must I do to hear sound from this jack?
Unfortunately earlier versions of the Texel drives did not function
properly as regards sound through the headphone jack (as advised to me by
the Australian importers late in '92). Your only recourse is to try and
get some kind of trade through your dealer. Sorry I can't give cheerier
news :(
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From: TONY STOTT Number: 2630
To: DON BOSMAN Date: 09/06/93 9:32a
Subj: Re: Cdrom Systems Refer: NONE
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On 09-01-93, in a colourful display of the English language, Don Bosman
said to Leslie Rhorer:-
DDB>The reason I asked if they would fit in a 5.25 slot was the ad for
DB>"bare" drives. I wondered what they were meant for if not an internal
DB>drive slot. I still wonder.
A bare drive doesn't come with an interface card (if you already have a
SCSI interface, you can daisy chain up to 7 SCSI drives/devices)
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From: TONY STOTT Number: 2631
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/06/93 9:32a
Subj: Echo Rules Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
On 08-31-93, in a colourful display of the English language, Bob Hall said
to All:-
BH>This echo, CDROM, would stay basically the information echo. All ads
BH>any form would be diverted to the CDROMSALE Echo, moderated by Tim
BH>Helton. Adult titles would be discussed in that echo also,
Bob, I have not heard of the cdromsale echo making it to Australia, so if
you remove ads from this echo, the Australian contingent will be cut off
from access to the many bargains found in the 10-line adverts. The problem
is that whoever gets the feed from USA to Zone 3 would be reluctant to
spring for a commercial echo, given Fidonet's sensitivity to business use
of conferences.
On the other hand, if we in Zone 3 can get the cdromsale echo, I would be
happy to read both, and would also support your echo being "purified" by
the removal of adverts.
To other Zone 3 readers... any takers for getting the cdromsale echo
brought in?
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From: GREG MCDONELL Number: 2632
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/06/93 10:45a
Subj: CD PHOTOS Refer: NONE
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Whilst on a recent visit to Earth Mike Shannon spake thusly to Greg Mcdonell
GM>Mike, I was wondering about this Kodak Photo CD ... is it editing
GM>tools, a database utility or what?? I may need it if Digital Cameras
GM>ever reduce in price down to my price range 8-)
MS> It is software to enable you to view, edit, and otherwise have fun
MS> with photographic images on the new Kodak Photo CD's. BTW, you don't
MS> need a digital camera to enjoy Photo CD technology, just a plain ol'
Thanks for the info. My theory on the digital camera is that it could
be used to take 20 or 30 shots where otherwise you might take 2 or 3
shots, then review and save just the best ones (like the pros)
without the cost of wasted film, and therefore have a selected
database of photos on CD.
I believe that once the hardware is cheap enough, this facility will
sell _a lot_ of digital cameras, and by extension, CDROMs.
I am assuming the cameras have re-writable chip memory for at least
20 photos, that can be transferred to disk or CD.
BTW, do you have a CD called "Global Explorer" .. I think it is
a "zoom to street level" global map. If you know it, does it have
decent quality photo-reproduction maps and panning, and is it
truly global (I'm in Australia)?
Best Regards, Greg
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From: VICTOR ZDANOWICZ Number: 2633
To: ALL Date: 09/06/93 7:46a
Subj: SB16ASP+CD in Win Refer: NONE
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Has anyone had problems with running the SB16-ASP in windows?... I cannot get
the sound... al I hear is the begining of the tune and then silence....
I have done everything posible!!...
Also.. does anyone know how to install Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe CD-ROM?
thanks.. Vz.
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From: SCOTT CONDER Number: 2634
To: ALL Date: 09/05/93 10:26p
Subj: Mitsumi CD ROM Drive; Sound Board Refer: NONE
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I'm thinking of buying one of the inexpensive Mitsumi CD ROM drives I've seen
advertised and, despite having read several articles, I'm confused as to what a
person needs in the way of interface hardware to use such a drive. If anyone
knows about this stuff, leave me a message about the following questions:
1) Can I access audio CD's with only the interface card that comes with the
drive?
2) Is the supplied interface card all I need to access such ROM's as
encyclopedias, etc., or will I need a sound card? In particular, will I have
to have a sound board to access sound files and graphics in an encyclopedia?
3) If I get a sound card, and I want 16-bit audio with editing capability, what
is the way to go?
4) If I get a sound card with a SCSI port built in, will the SCSI port work
with the Mitsumi drive and allow me to get rid of the drive's dedicated IF?
This is a somewhat confusing area for a novice. I'd appreciate any input.
Thanks.
Scott
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 2635
To: LEE NOGA Date: 09/06/93 9:57a
Subj: Southern Beauties Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> In a message to NEIL BERGMAN <09-02-93 23:21> Ismail Arslangiray wrote:
> IA>> > SOUTHERN BEAUTIES $31.91 (BBS READY)
> IA>> YES
> No-No-No-No-No-No-No---Read the back of the cover--This is one company
> who I feel will be very aggressive with litigation if their scans are put
> on the BBS--This disc *IS NOT* BBS acceptable, and should not be used as
> such.
Seems like both of your disk have legal problems and there is an apperent piss
contest. I am sorry but you guys need to handle your own problems. I was only
helping to another echo participant.
-= IA =-
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From: ROBERT RAWLINGS Number: 2636
To: ALL Date: 09/05/93 5:18p
Subj: Magnavox (Phillips) CDD461 Refer: NONE
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Does anyone know where I can locate a driver I can use to allow
OS2 to recognize this CD......Thanks
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 2637
To: BRAD LEWIS Date: 09/06/93 5:10p
Subj: Re: N.owl9 SBPro CD-Rom 521C noway Refer: NONE
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> told that there are 2 types of drives and 2 formats for writing to CD's .
> THey told me I can only read CD's that have a maximum of 540 megs approx.
> while the newer drives can read cd's with up to 680 megs. Now I am
> wondering what drive to buy next and how long before something comes out
> it can't read.
Hi Brad,
Mod 1 and Mod 2 are the tech specs they are talking about. Panasonic 521
(Creative Labs) drive doesn't confirm Mod 2. Therefor you may have problems
with the disks are larger that 63 min. recording time. Panasonic 522B drive
will correct this problem, if you upgrade your drive. Also 562 (double spin)
will cure your problem. If you need more help or techical info give me a call
at 206-472-1400. TTYL
GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400
1-206-473-1634 FAX
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 2638
To: DON PRYOR Date: 09/06/93 5:17a
Subj: Re: n.o. 9 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 04 Sep 93 17:00:00, I heard Don Pryor shout to All:
DP> Is NightOwl 9 BBS Ready?
DP>
DP> Don
Yes, It is I run it on my BBS and I was really happy with the way it popped in
and setup in a snap.
.....|<evin
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From: CHARLES HARPER Number: 2639
To: RYAN MENDEL Date: 09/06/93 6:17a
Subj: Re: BBS CDs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> How do you load a CD program for a BBS, a CD like Phoniex? Do you have
> to load all the files and type in descriptions manually, or is there
> something on the CDs that automatically loads it to the BBS, making
> directories and things like that?? PLEASE help me, I would like to get it
> running on my BBS as soon as possilbe, thanks!
Make a Dir on your hard drive and name it anything you want too.
Ie. Games, Comm and etc. Change to the Phoneix Cdrom List Directory and
copy the *lis file(s) to directory on hard drive. Then Tell your BBS
software in the Config Setup the name of the Directory on the hard drive
and sub directory on the Phoneix CDROM drive. Then add the files acording
to however you do it with the BBS software or utilities for your BBS.
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From: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON Number: 2640
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/06/93 2:43p
Subj: SALE CD-ROM'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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From: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON Number: 2641
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/06/93 2:43p
Subj: SALE CD-ROM'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am interested in these great Prices...
Here is my address:
****************************************
C E Bourguignon
293, North St #5
Aylmer, Qc
J9H 6V9
Canada
***************
Let me know when you get this message!!!
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From: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON Number: 2642
To: ALL Date: 09/06/93 2:45p
Subj: Catalogs wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I love CD software and if some of you out there have ad CDs for sale,
leave me a note and I will tell you where to send it to.
Thanks
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From: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON Number: 2643
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/06/93 2:50p
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I live in Canada and I am looking for the new 562B Panasonic CD-ROM drive that
is suppose to be multi-spin & compatible with SBPro / SB16. Do you have the
drive for sale or do you have any idea where I can get it ( US or Canada ) for
the best possible price?
If you know where it is available, is it compatible with OS/2 2.1?
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From: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON Number: 2644
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/06/93 2:55p
Subj: Re: Panasonic CDR-63 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
So the 562B/563 now is compatible with SBPro? Do you have any such idea where
I can purchase this drive in Canada? Is it OS/2 2.1 compatible?
One last question, what is the difference between 562B & the 563
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From: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON Number: 2645
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/06/93 2:57p
Subj: Panasonic CD drive Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Is this drive compatible with OS/2 2.1 and how fast is it?
You can use the SBPro as the only interface card eh?
Thanks
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From: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON Number: 2646
To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN Date: 09/06/93 3:12p
Subj: SUPER VALUES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please send me a catalog if available of these great prices
C E Bourguignon
293, North #5
Aylmer, Qc
J9H 6V9
Canada
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From: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON Number: 2647
To: DON RIEB Date: 09/06/93 3:14p
Subj: NEW FREE CDROM CATALOG! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please add me to your mailing list.
C E Bourguignon
293, North #5
Aylmer, Qc
J9H 6V9
Canada
************
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From: JEFF CUTLER Number: 2648
To: WILLIAM SCHNEIDER, JR. Date: 09/06/93 1:06a
Subj: Smartdrv as cache Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello William!
02 Sep 93 23:13, William Schneider, Jr. wrote to All:
WSJ> But it didn't work. I even tried to do it without the '+', but it still
WSJ> won't go. I know, a lot of people will tell me to use another cache
WSJ> program, but I bought DOS 6 for all the new features, and can't stand any
WSJ> of them, so I gotta get my money back out of it somehow! By the way, I:
WSJ> is the drive letter for my CD-ROM. Thanks in advance! Chow!
I can't be sure but i know that Some CD Rom Device Drivers tell DOS to
treat the CD-Rom Drive as a Network Drive. SMARTDRV probably won't let you use
it on a Network drive (It isn't really but DOS thinks so.)
Jeff
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From: LON SEIDMAN Number: 2649
To: VINCENT CAPALBO Date: 09/02/93 4:19p
Subj: Bbs Cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Vincent Capalbo wrote
+-------------------------------+
XXXDo all CDROMS constantly spin when a disk is inside. If so a BBS
XXXwould have it spinning 24 hours. I know Tandy makes one that doesn't spin
XXXwhen a disk is in it till it needs it but that one is 900 m.s.
+-------------------------------+
I own an NEC CDR-84 and the disc doesn't continually spin when the drive
isn't being accessed. Even if the disc was being spinned 24 hours a
day, the motor should hold out. A good quality drive shouldn't quit on
you.
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X LonMail X Constant change is here to stay.
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From: LON SEIDMAN Number: 2650
To: SHAWN MAZZUTO Date: 09/02/93 4:24p
Subj: NEC CDR-84 Multi-Spin Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Shawn Mazzuto wrote
+-------------------------------+
XXXOut of curiosity, would I need to buy another NEC CDR-84 CD-
XXXROM for the BBS, or can I get another NEC CD-ROM, but not
XXXas quick. This is so that I can use the same drivers in my
XXXconfig.
+-------------------------------+
Do you plan on running both drives on the same system? If you have a
standard SCSI port, you can use just about any drive on the same card as
long as it is a SCSI drive. The CD-ROM driver NEC provides should
recognize both drives without a problem.
___
X LonMail X Mouse drivers -- VERY small chauffeurs.
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From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 2651
To: BRAD LEWIS Date: 09/06/93 2:32p
Subj: N.owl9 SBPro CD-Rom 521C Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> About a year ago I purchased a SBPro mutimidia kit with an Internal
-> CD-Rom drive Model 521C and You would not believe the different
-> stories I get as I go from store to store with my question.
-> I have been told that Creative Labs still includes the same CD-rom
-> drive in
-> the kit as it did back then. I have my doubts. I bought Nightowl 9
-> and found I could not read it; so, I began my quest to find out why.
-> I phoned the Nightowl distributers and they told me that they are
-> just starting to hear about this and are considering releasing
-> another version of 9 so the older CD-ROMs can read it. I called
-> Creative labs and was told that there are 2 types of drives and 2
-> formats for writing to CD's . THey told me I can only read CD's that
-> have a maximum of 540 megs approx. while the newer drives can read
-> cd's with up to 680 megs. Now I am wondering what drive to buy next
-> and how long before something comes out it can't read.
I know what you mean but the 540meg format is pretty much the standard
their idiots to release it on a newer format as if we are all going to
sell our cd roms to buy the ones that have the higher capacity. If
their software takes up more than 540megs they SHOULD put it on 2 cd
roms rather than being cheap skates.
Louis
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From: RON FINDLING Number: 2652
To: AL KOLLER Date: 09/03/93 9:27p
Subj: Os/2 Refer: NONE
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>Hi Ron. The OS/2 update package is available to anyone
>with a previous version of OS/2 OR any prior DOS.... So
>most all of us would qualify. Hurry
>though. Ends soon I think (9/30?).
Not true. You're confusing the fact that the "upgrade" version of
OS/2 costs inherently less than the regular version - for the rebate
itself though a prior version of DOS is not mentioned.
Here's the actual text from the sheet that describes the rebate:
========================================================================
SPECIAL OFFER - $30.00 REBATE FROM IBM
If you are upgrading from any previous version of the OS/2 operating
system, IBM is pleased to announce that you can obtain a rebate on the
OS/2 2.1 product!
REBATE INSTRUCTIONS
To obtain your $30.00 rebate from IBM, follow the instructions below:
1. Enclose one of the following as proof of purchase from your OS/2
1.x or 2.0 product:
- Proof of License
- Original Receipt
- Certification Form
AND
the receipt for OS/2 2.1 as proof of purchase.
2. Complete the Registration Card that came with OS/2 2.1
3. Mail the proof of purchase from your OS/2 1.x or or 2.0, your proof
of purchase for OS/2 2.1, and your Registration Card for OS/2 2.1 to:
- IBM Fulfillment Headquarters
- P.O. Box 525
- Dearborn, MI 48121-0525
Allow 8-10 weeks for receipt of rebate.
Offer expires September 14, 1993
=========================================================================
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From: GARY KORPAN Number: 2653
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/06/93 6:32a
Subj: Vancouver? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Mike, are you coming up to the big computer swap meet next Saturday Sept 11 in
Vancouver (actually in Richmond)?
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From: GARY KORPAN Number: 2654
To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Date: 09/06/93 6:35a
Subj: Vancouver? Refer: NONE
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Ismail, are you coming up the computer swap meet/sales next Saturday in
Vancouver (actually in Richmond)? Am curious to see all your cdroms.
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From: GARY STIMPSON Number: 2655
To: ALL Date: 09/06/93 9:07a
Subj: Amiga CD32 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello there,
I hope this group is appropriate for my posting.
Have any of you heard of Commodore's new CD32 yet? Here's an article from
GEnie I thought some people might be interested in. I will also post a
list of CD32 titles to be released.
Reprinted by Permission from the 5-MINUTE Weekend
News Network, a *StarShip*(tm) Production on GEnie(R).
Commodore UK Introduces 32-bit CD Console: CD32
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"We could bring a 32-bit console out tomorrow...
but the problem is the price -- and I don't think
that problem will be solved this year or next year."
______ -Sega US, June 1993
(__ __) Great Britain -- June 16, 1993
/ /
/ /
(_/he machine of "tomorrow, this year, and next year" is here now.
Commodore's Amiga CD32, the world's fibrst 32-bit CD console is officially
launched today.
Incredibly it retails for just GBP 299.99 (US $400.00).
The launch leaves Sega, with its price problems, and Nintendo, with no
discernable interest in developing a CD console, trailing in the dust.
(GS: Nintendo is working on a CDROM system to be released in a few years)
And it sets up this ground-breaking new games machine to take the world by
storm when it hits the shelves worldwide at the end of August.
David Pleasance, Commodore UK's joint managing director, said, "The Amiga
CD32 simply blows away the opposition. It's considerably more powerful, has
better software support and, best of all, costs less."
Third party software publishers are united in their support for the CD32.
They include, among others, Gremlin, Millenium, Ocean Software, Psygnosis,
Team 17, Mindscape, and Virgin Games.
The top loading Amiga CD32 comes with an 11 button joypad. This tiny
(approximately A4-size) [thats 8.5" x 11" to us yanks -Quarters] machine is
packed with computing power.
It includes the Motorolla 68020 processor and comes complete with 2
Megabytes of RAM.
The internal "engine" is based on the same AGA chipset which has established
Commodore's Amiga 1200 home computer as the UK's market leader.
So, like the Amiga 1200, it is capable of displaying 256,000 colors on
screen from a total palette of 16.8 million colors. That's hugely superior
to any existing games CD player.
The console also has a built-in operating system (Commodore's own Amiga
"Workbench") which means it can be expanded into a fully functioning
computer.
The machine can also play audio CDs, CD + Graphics, and Commodore's CDTV
format. It contains an expansion capability for Full Motion Video based on
the world standard MPEG.
For more information, see *StarShip* Bulletin Board CATegory 19, Topic 41. A
digitized photo is available in Library File #20302 CD32.JPG.
- END OF ARTICLE -
Not mentioned in this article was the chunky to planar chip.
From Amiga Format: "This chip allows graphics developed for a chunky pixel
based machine to be ported straight to the Amiga without any conversion.
This means that developers can use either chunky or planar graphics, which
ever suits them best."
Anyway, CD32 looks like a hot system. I'm sure it'll do excellent in
Europe, but America is a totally different question. (Where SNES rules
surpreme)
More specs:
14 MHz 68020
AGA chipset (16.8 million colour palette, 256 000 displayble)
C-Cube MPEG chipset
Chunky to planar chip
2 Meg RAM
Double speed Matsushita CD-ROM drive
Keboard connector
Floppy drive connector
2 joystick ports
11 button joystick
Photo-CD compatible
MPEG-1 film CD compatible (as is 3DO, CD-I with FMV upgrade)
Audio CD compatible
I expect it to be priced under $400 American (possibly $350 or so).
Gary
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From: GARY STIMPSON Number: 2656
To: ALL Date: 09/06/93 8:43a
Subj: CD32 Titles 1/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
--==< Titles to be released for the Amiga CD32 >==--
Compiled from various sources on the networks
* = new since last update
----
1884 (Millenium)
1869 (Flairsoft)
7th Guest (Virgin) -
Akira (Ice) -
From the film.
Alfred Chicken (Mindscape)
Alien Breed 2 (Team 17)
Ambermoon CD32 - November release
Amiga CD Football (Plattsoft)
B 17 Flying Fortress (Microprose)
Battlestorm (Titus) *
Biosphere (Bullfrog)
Body Blows [2] (Team 17)
Burning Rubber (Ocean)
Cannon Fodder (Virgin)
Captive 2 (Mindscape)
Case of the Cautious Condor (Tiger Media) *
Chaos Engine (Mindscape)
Cinderella (Discus) *
Civilization (Microprose)
Compilation Disk (Mindscape) *
Composer Quest (Virtual Entertainment)
Connoisseurs of Fine Art (Lascelles) *
Creation
Daughter of Serpents (Millenium)
Defender of the Crown II (Sachs Entertainment)
Diggers (Millenium) -
"Diggers has been written from scratch on the CD32 -
it's not a conversion. There are six digital CD audio
tracks, at *least* 256 colours used throughout, with
24-bit copper backgrounds. The 34 levels each consist of
32,000 locations, with seven terrain types. Because we
didn't have to worry about the size of the game, we were
able to go to town with the amount of graphics."
- Toby Simpson ( Programmer )
Dino Worlds (Millenium)
Dogfight (Microprose)
Dracula (Psygnosis)
Drive Fractalus (Mindscape)
Dune [2] (Virgin)
England World Cup '94
Epic (Ocean)
FA Premier Soccer (Ocean)
Fantastic Voyage (Centaur) *
First Contact (Ocean)
Flashback (US Gold)
Flight of the Amazon Queen (Renegade)
Formula One GP (Microprose)
Frontier (Konami)
Global Chaos (Hex) *
Grolier Encyclopedia 2 (Xiphias)
Guiness Books Of Records (New Media)
Gunship 2000 (Microprose)
Hero Quest-Legend of Soracil (Gremlin) *
Heroic Age of Space Flight/NASA (Troika) *
Indiana Jones FOA (Lucasarts)
Inferno (Ocean)
Insight Technology (Optonica)
International Championship Golf (Ocean)
James Pond [2] (Millenium)
John Doe (Ocean)
Jurassic Park (Ocean) -
This is an Ultima Underworld/Wolfenstein 3D type game where you
have to hunt Raptors etc...
18+ months in development so far: October
release. "We couldn't do the 3D section with the
kiddy-type consoles, but we can with the Amiga."
- Ciaran Brennan of Bastion, Ocean PR
May be bundled with the CD32.
Legacy (Microprose)
Lemmings Compilation (Psygnosis) *
Liberation (Mindscape)
Lionheart (Thalion)
Litil Divil (Gremlin)
Long Hard Day at the Ranch (Discus) *
Lotus Turbo Trilogy (Gremlin)
Magic Carpet
Manchester United 2 (Krisalis)
Microcosm (Psygnosis)
Monkey Island (Lucasarts)
Monkey Island 2 (Lucasarts)
Monkey Island 3 (Lucasarts) -
Perhaps.
Mortal Kombat (Acclaim/Probe)
Moving gives me a stomach ache (Discus) *
--==> Continued next message! <==--
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From: GARY STIMPSON Number: 2657
To: ALL Date: 09/06/93 8:33a
Subj: CD32 Titles 2/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Mr. Nutz (Ocean)
Mud Puddle (Discus) *
Musicolor (Virgin)
Nick Faldo's Championship Golf (Grandslam)
Nigel Mansell GP (Gremlin)
North Polar Expedition (Virgin)
One Step Beyond (Ocean) -
The follow-up adventure of Quavery Colin. Release: Christmas.
Oscar (Flairsoft)
Overdrive (Team 17)
Pinball Dreams
Pinball Fantasies (21st Century) -
256 colour tables, CD-quality audio.
Pinball Illusions (21st Century)
Prehistoric (Titus) *
Premier Manager (Ocean)
Project X2 (Team 17)
Putty (System 3)
Return to the Lost World (Mirage - may licence)
Rise of the Robots (Mirage - may licence)
Robocod [3] (Millenium)
Rough and Tumble (Renegade)
Sabre Team (Krisalis)
Second Samurai (Virgin)
Sensible World of Soccer (Mindscape)
Sim City (Maxis) *
Sim Life (Mindscape)
SleepWalker (Ocean)
Snooker/Pool 2 (Virgin)
Soccer Kid (Krisalis)
Space Junk (Mirage - may licence)
Space Simulation (Gremlin)
Stamps of France and Morocco (Seriat) *
Star Trek 25th Anniversary
Super Frog [2] (Team 17)
Syndicate (Bullfrog) -
Ability to look into buildings and rotate the 3D view (and no
doubt the other graphics & sound will be improved)
Tale of Peter Rabbit (Discus) *
TFX (Ocean/DID)
The Cure (Ice) *
The Legend of Soracil (Gremlin)
The Ninja Trilogy (System 3)
The Two Towers
Ultima Underworld (Mindscape)
Uridium 2 (Renegade)
Utopia 2 (Gremlin)
Various Games Park [Pack?] (Mindscape)
Whale's Voyage (Flairsoft)
Wing Commander (Mindscape)
Wing Commander 2 (Mindscape)
World Circuit Grand Prix (Microprose)
Zool [2] (Gremlin)
-END-
From Cu Amiga's August issue
CD32 Sega CD
68EC020 @ 14Mhz 68000 @ 12Mhz
res 1280x512 640x320
palette 16.8 mill 256
colours 256,000 64
4 channel 8-bit 8 channel FM
2Megs (128M upgrade) 128K
Max data transfer rate
300K per sec. 150K per sec.
price
299 pounds 269 (Sega)+ 199 (CD add-on)= 388 pounds
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Gary
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From: GARY STIMPSON Number: 2658
To: DANNY TONG Date: 09/06/93 8:41a
Subj: Re: Mod, 669 or wav on cd-rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of 04 Sep 93 Danny Tong wrote to All:
DT> Has anybody seen a CD-ROM with MOD, 669 or WAV for sale?
Safe Harbor Computers sells the "Ultimate MOD Collection" CDROM for $22.99
American. I think it contains something like 1600 MODS! However, it's
listed as a Commodore CDTV product, so I'm not sure if an IBM or MAC CDROM
drive will beable to read it. (depends what format it's in) Maybe you could
call them and ask what format the CD is in? Here's their information if
you're still interested:
Safe Harbor Computers
2120 E. Moreland Blvd.
Suite L, Waukesha, WI
53186
Orders: 800-544-6599
Information/Tech support/returns: 414-548-8125
Hope that helps!
Gary
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From: SAM JONES Number: 2659
To: KEN UHRICK Date: 09/07/93 7:48a
Subj: Re: Photo CD Software Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
KU> AS far as I KNOW THE KODAK PHOTO cd IS WINDOWS prg
I finally found out that the Kodak program is available in DOS or Windows
and the local Babbage's only carries the DOS (I don't know why) version.
Someone also suggested Tempra Access which is DOS but supports video cards with
VESA.
Sam
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From: DANIEL PRINCE Number: 2660
To: ALL Date: 09/05/93 6:31a
Subj: 16-bit sound cards Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
My brother has found that some of his games (especially Sherlock
Holmes II) don't sound very good on his 8-bit Sound Blaster. He
was wondering if switching to a 16-bit card would make these
games sound better even if they aren't written specifically for a
16-bit card. Would a 16-bit sound card make games written for an
8-bit card sound better?
Does anyone have any opinions on which 16-bit sound card will
become the standard? The Pro Audio Spectrum 16 was the first 16-
bit sound card but the Sound Blaster 16 has the advantage of the
8-bit SB being the previous standard.
Does anyone know exactly what the difference is between the Sound
Blaster 16 and the ASP version? What is the difference between
the Pro Audio Spectrum and Studio?
He found a review of the Pro Audio Spectrum 16 that said that to
make it Sound Blaster compatible you have to run a driver
program. Does anyone know how big this driver is and if it
can be loaded high? Thank you in advance for all replies.
... My cat thinks he is a gourmet. He's really a gourmand.
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From: NEIL BERGMAN Number: 2661
To: ALL Date: 09/05/93 1:29a
Subj: SPECIAL CD-ROM PRICES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SHORELINE CD-ROM'S DISCOUNT PRICES
***LABOR-DAY SPECIALS***
These are just a few examples of our low prices...We have over 300
titles in stock.
WING COMMANDER & ULTIMA VI $15.53
WORLD ATLAS (MPC OR DOS) $15.53
KODAK PHOTO CD $15.53
ANIMALS MPC (SAN DIEGO ZOO) $20.70
DAGGER OF AMON RA $32.78 TOO MANY MORE TO LIST!!!
KINGS QUEST V $16.74
LOOM $14.66 FOR A COMPLETE CATALOG, LEAVE
SUPER SHAREWARE/w/SUPER BBS $31.05 E-mail ADDRESS OR POSTAL
TERRORIST GROUP PROFILES (CIA) $31.91 ADDRESS!!!!
NIGHT OWL 9 $30.19
UP ALL NIGHT $18.11
***ADULT***
ASIAN LADIES $31.91 (BBS READY)
THINGS CHANGE:MY FIRST TIME $37.09 (XXX 80 MIN FULL MOTION VIDEO)
MOVING FANTASIES $19.85 (BBS READY)
VISUAL FANTASIES $19.85 (BBS READY)
VOLCANO $32.78 (BBS READY)
SOUTHERN BEAUTIES $31.91 (BBS READY)
STAREWARE $31.91 (BBS READY)
STORM I,II,III $22.38 (EACH!) BBS READY
HIDDEN OBSESSIONS $48.00 (FULL MOTION VIDEO)
SEXXCAPADES-THE MOVIE $44.20 (FULL MOTION VIDEO)
MY PRIVATE COLLECTION $32.78 (BBS READY)
DEEP THROAT $42.76 FULL MOTION VIDEO
MAN POWER $41.00 BBS READY
WE ACCEPT VISA, MC, AX & DISCOVER. CHECK OR M.O. (ADD 3% FOR CREDIT CARDS
$4.00 S&H FOR ORDERS OF 1-5..$1.00 PER EACH ADDITIONAL DISC.
SHORELINE CD-ROM PHONE: (310) 652-2858
1206 S. HOLT AVE. #1
LOS ANGELES, CA 90032 FAX: (310) 652-2608
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 2662
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/07/93 12:52a
Subj: Re: CADDY-O-RAMA Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BF> > BF> >I wouldn't consider using a caddyless for my BBS
BF> > BF> I refuse to put up with those caddy-type single-disc
BF> monstrosities. I can
BF> > This makes no sense at all. Caddies are a lot
BF> more CONVENIENT than
BF> >non-caddy units.
BF> Not at all. Unless you want to spend the extra $$$ to put
BF> EACH AND EVERY CD-ROM YOU OWN
It is utter foolishness to do otherwise. The extra $$$ are trivial,
compared with the investment of a dozen or so CD-ROM disks.
BF> I also happen to hate the extra expen$e of those *$&*&^*@&^ caddies.
Do you hate the extra expense of relacing CD's? One trashed CD can pay
for an awful lot of caddies. The time savings are also easily worth the
comparatively tiny investment.
Les
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 2663
To: ROY COCHRUN Date: 09/02/93 8:06p
Subj: Precision mapping Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RC>I missed earlier message(s) on this thread. Which mapping program/disc
>are you discussing? I collect them (altho I have no idea why!!) --
Precision Mapping is the name of the set. It is real nice. There are
two discs, one east and one west. You can zoom into any city across the
country. I found the dirt roads near my home in a very small town in
Alabama. The American Business Phonebook comes with it free. My price
on it is $89.
Jim...
Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card & COD Orders
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 2664
To: JEFF BRYANT Date: 09/02/93 8:08p
Subj: Re: ENCYCLOPEDIA'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>JL>Computer Works Jim...
>JL>CD-Rom Sales!
>JL>(205) 793-4481 Voice
>JL>(205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card & COD Orders
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Is this BBS up 24 hrs? I tried calling, and got no connect. I can"t hear
>my modem speaker, so I don't know if there was no answer, voice answer
>or what, I know it wasn't busy. It's POSSIBLE I got the wrong number. :o
Yes, it sure is. It stays pretty busy now that I have a Pioneer 6 disc
changer online, but it shouldn't be found offline very often. I have it
offline from 2 am till about 2:20 am CST for the mail run, but that
should give you a busy signal.
Jim...
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 2665
To: HERMAN WIGGINS Date: 09/02/93 8:29p
Subj: Cd-Roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
HW>I have So Much Shareware BBS ready for sale 3 disk set, price $40.00 if
>you are interested in these disk reply here..Also have some other titles
>which I will announce later...
What exactly are you selling? Is it So Much Shareware 1, 2, & 3 or a
set of CD's? If it is 1, 2, & 3, isn't there a lot of duplication among
them?
Jim...
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From: HERMAN WIGGINS Number: 2666
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 09/07/93 10:43a
Subj: Cd-Roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Not a lots of dups on this Cd it contains 3 disk set..
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From: TOM CZACHOR Number: 2667
To: ALL Date: 09/06/93 3:51p
Subj: SONY 535 PROBLEM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Help... I have two sony 535 Cd-ROM drives. One will read all my disks
SMS 1-2-3 & NightOwl 7-8-9, the second drive doesn't like them all and
ejects them when it can't read them. It is mainly night 8 & SMS 2 I have
the trouble with.
Any suggestions??
>>tom<<
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From: JIMM CRAWFORD Number: 2668
To: ALL Date: 09/05/93 12:38a
Subj: CD-ROMs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm doing some market research on CD-ROMs...
What is it that you look for in purchasing SHAREWARE/Public Domain
files on CD-ROMs? Any and all specifics would be appreciated.
* RM 1.2 00556 * Does "Bad FAT" mean disk has high cholesterol???
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From: STEWART ROTHMAN Number: 2669
To: BORIS OSACDIW Date: 09/05/93 10:31p
Subj: ProPhone 94 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> BO> we sell the most up to date copies for only $89.
I have the 7-disc set Pro Phone 1993. I paid $150.00 for it five months ago,
and although there have been a few disapointments, I've found an
awful lot of names and numbers I wasn't able to get elsewhere. I see
a lot of complaints about the 93 edition, but I'm satisfied with it.
I would, however like to pay less when I update to the newer version.
Boris, I see you're selling the 1993 version for $89.00, what will you
be selling the 7-disc set of Pro-Phone 1994 for when available.
Also, I've been looking for a medical-type CD, not necessarily with medical
symptoms and complaints, but a complete listing of prescription drugs and
possible reactions/complications and a listing
of other prescriptions/drugs that could react or inter-react with those.
I've seen a couple, but no documentation or background on the individuals or
doctors/hospitals that did the research for the listings. I don't want to buy
a disk that was compiled by some computer enthusiast or technical research
person. I want one put out by a doctor or hospital staff. Do you have
anything like what I'm asking about???
Stu Rothman
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From: STEWART ROTHMAN Number: 2670
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/05/93 10:54p
Subj: Prescription CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Mike, I don't know if you've seen some of my recent messages, but I've
been looking for a medical-type CD, not necessarily with medical
symptoms and complaints, but a complete listing of prescription
drugs and possible reactions/complications and a listing of other
prescriptions/drugs that could react or inter-react with those. I've seen a
couple, but no documentation or background on the individuals or
doctors/hospitals that did the research for the listings. I don't want to
buy a disk that was compiled by some computer enthusiast or technical
research person. I want one put out by a doctor or hospital staff. Do you
have anything like what I'm asking about???
I just saw where somebody returned a MAYO CLINIC CD to for THE FAMILY
DOCTOR. What are these and why was one returned??? How's the other??
Stu Rothman
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From: BERTRAND SCHMITT Number: 2671
To: ALL Date: 09/04/93 1:47p
Subj: Kit 16ASP Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello there,
Here is an incoming message from Switzerland. ( fasten your seatbelt )
I'm thinking of buying the Sound Blaster 16ASP Multimedia Upgrade Kit.
Up to now, I was only able to find a 16 without the ASP version.
I read in a magazine "TILT" that the latest kit that Creative Labs made was
with the 16ASP and the Panasonic CDR 652B. Is is able of double speed and an
amazing 600Kb/s with some games ( Yes, it was written black on white ).
The question is: Has anybody never heard of it ? Does it exist ? Where can I
find it ( in Switzerland perhaps ) ?
Thanks
╔═╗
╠═╩╗
╚══╝ertrand
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From: NIRAV SHETH Number: 2672
To: TIM HELTON Date: 09/05/93 10:13p
Subj: Disk Needed Refer: NONE
Read: 09/24/93 7:57a Private: No
You were interested in a game with a ecological theme... get Ecoquest..
I got it for $35 new.....
call me at (205)351-0072 or leave me a message if your interested...
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From: TOM KENNEDY Number: 2673
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/06/93 3:14p
Subj: SALE CD-ROM'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'd like your catalog. My mail address is:
Tom Kennedy
10337 Appleway Ct.
Charlotte, NC 28227
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From: ED FEINS Number: 2674
To: JOHN KROPP Date: 09/05/93 7:43a
Subj: CD CADDIES FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Ed, I will take em at that price if in good shape and postpaid to me
> at that figure. Let me know if agreeable. Thanks!
>
>
Sorry John ... they have been sold
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From: ED FEINS Number: 2675
To: RON YOUNG Date: 09/05/93 7:44a
Subj: CD CADDIES FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>EF> I have EIGHT CD-CADDIES for sale.
>
> I will take these. Give me your address info and I will send
> payment for the caddies.
>
Sorry .. they are sold
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From: DENNIS DAVIS Number: 2676
To: ALL Date: 09/06/93 10:55a
Subj: Zutsr Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Can anyone tell me where I can freq a copy of ZuTSR 1.10?? I
understand it works a whole lot better than the 1.00 verison...I could
never get it to intialize my ZyXEL 1496E+.
I called the ZyXEL bbs the other day and did a scan for ZuTSR...no go
on that.
Any comments appreciated!
... THE RSUME EXCHANGE BBS (602) 947-4283 Scottsdale, Arizona.
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From: ROBERT PROHL Number: 2677
To: ALL Date: 09/06/93 10:16a
Subj: MSCDEX Woes Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey people.. gotta question..
Recently I installed another hard drive for my BBS and configured it as
the Slave drive, designation D. Since there is a specific variable for
teh CD rom extension in the Config and Autoexec files, I figured I could
just change this to reconfigure the CD as E....
However, I keep getting "illegal parameter" or some such nonsense when
autoexec encounters that line.. what the hey? Can it be done?
W
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2678
To: JIM CUMMINGS Date: 09/06/93 9:03p
Subj: Fed Micro CD-Rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JC>Have you ever given any thought to having a booth at the
JC>Fed Micro CD-ROM convention in Washington D.C. ? It is a
JC>great convention. MrCDrom was there doing a huge business
Sounds great, but I'd have to move a lot of CD's to pay for a cross-country
trip! 8)
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2679
To: JOE PATTERSON Date: 09/06/93 9:03p
Subj: World Vision Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JP>Hi Mike, I am still waiting for the #2 disk of WORLD Visions 3 disk set.
Have
JP>you forgotten me. :{)
Haven't forgotten Joe. I just got the replacement in on Saturday, and will
mail it out to you tomorrow.
Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2680
To: ALL Date: 09/06/93 9:03p
Subj: CD-ROM PRE-ORDERS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
______________________________________________________
| |
| Starvector Sales Bulletin #3: CD-ROM PRE-ORDERS |
|______________________________________________________|
We are now taking pre-orders on the following titles
- Cards are not processed until date of shipment -
BUSTY BABES II * Over 1000 new and original hi-rez scans + Showoff (a).$29
PC-SIG 13 * Newest CD from the oldest shareware distributor............$33
PIER 3 * 650+mb of all new material w/ no dupes to Pier 1 or 2.........$39
SHAREWARE STUDIO 3 * 633mb and 5109 files + BBS-ready! Don't miss out..$29
600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs same price as ground shipping!
ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p International orders welcomed.
CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: BRUCE CLAUNCH Number: 2681
To: RJ KULMAN Date: 09/07/93 11:17a
Subj: NEC cd-37 lockup Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hiya
Thanks for the info, but still no help.
I have all that was said, changed slots and watch for power interuption
on my 386sx25 I also have a slight problem (the some one)
if I turn off the system then wait a secon or two it'll put a noise over
my sound blaster pro and then I'll turn it on and all works
Thanks for trieing
Bruce
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From: SHAUN RADER Number: 2682
To: KEN BACHMAN Date: 09/03/93 11:27p
Subj: Re: games Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
<<***** KEN BACHMAN wrote this on 08-31─93 {May be edited} *****>>
─>Well if you like the talking games for CD's. Try LOOM it also talks
─>instead of having to read the text. The Adventure of Willy Beamish is
─>another one, but so far I have not been as impressed with it as I was
─>with LOOM, just not have spent that much time with it at this point.
Actually, I have LOOM for CD-ROM. I got the game after I had already
beat the EGA disk version. It is good, but I don't think there is
enough music. I think you like it better then the voices in Willy
Beamish because the voices in LOOM is actual CD Audio (same as the
music). All the other games I have seen have the voices as data on the
disk, so it's not as clear.
-Shaun Rader-
-Madman@Liberty.Com-
09/03/93 18:48
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From: RANDY WHITE Number: 2683
To: STEVE GOYER Date: 09/07/93 7:46a
Subj: Re: BRAND NEW CD'S! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
It is a puzzle solving game, the graphics and sound are awesome, it is the
reason everyone bought a CD-Rom Drive. A very cutting edge type of game. Get
it even if you don't think you will like solving puzzles, I don't care for
games like that, but I loved the 7th Guest...
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 2684
To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 09/07/93 6:43p
Subj: Macademic Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Ya but I would have exceeded the TEN Line limit. The moderator got upset the
last time I sent it all as one msg. So I took another approach <g>..m2
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 2685
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/07/93 6:45p
Subj: Anatomist¬ Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Well Mate, I didn't exceed the TEN line maximum per the echo rules and I
didn't continue to send page after page of pontification about "To Caddy or Not
to Caddy"! <g>
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 2686
To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 09/07/93 6:46p
Subj: U.S. History CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MM> I need a MAC Compatable CDROM entitled US History by the Bureau of
MM> Development. CDROM to be used is an AppleCD 300. Request Price and
MM> shipping info..tks..m2
DC> We have the IBM version in stock at $27.95 plus
DC> shipping...615-339-0235 24 hours to order.
But Doug is it MAC compatable? IF it is I will take it..m2
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 2687
To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 09/07/93 6:47p
Subj: Multimedia Animals Encyclopedia Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DC> We have Mayo and Animals in stock for $25 each.....615-339-0235 to
DC> order.
I will give ya call..m2
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From: ADRIAN VERGOT Number: 2688
To: ALL Date: 09/06/93 9:17p
Subj: Make your own CD-ROM! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
How would you like your own custom made CD-ROM?
CD-ROM Creations (c) has now made getting your proprietary DOS or Windows
files, programs, and databases onto CD-ROM both EASY and Affordable.
All you have to do is send us a copy of your proprietary information
(600+ Meg!) on DC2XXX QIC40/80 Colorado style tape cartridges (other
formats considered on a case by case basis) and we will directly
transfer it onto an ISO compliant CD-ROM that can be accessed by any
ISO compliant CD-ROM drive (just about every one made today!)
- Confidentiality is assured
- $99 per CD-ROM
- additional copies only $50 each
- Turn around time is about 2 days
- BBS Sysops call for rates
- We accept money orders and cashiers checks
- Pesonal Check orders will be shipped when check clears bank
If interested, call (412) 942-4694 and ask for Adrian
Auto Fax (412) 942-4694
Enclose a signed copy of the following disclaimer with your order:
DUE TO THE BULK NATURE OF THIS SERVICE, CD-ROM CREATIONS (c) DOES
NOT AND CAN NOT CENSOR AND DETERMINE THE NATURE OF THE MATERIEL
THAT THE CUSTOMER IS PROVIDING. IT IS THEREFORE THE SOLE
RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CUSTOMER TO ENSURE THAT NO COPYRIGHT
VIOLATIONS EXIST IN PLACING THE DATA ONTO CD-ROM
Signed ______________________________
Your Signature
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From: ED YEE Number: 2689
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/07/93 1:33p
Subj: WRITABLE CD-ROM'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BF> The ONLY drives that will produce a CD-ROM that is
BF> readable by any standard CD-
BF> ROM player are the "One-off CD recorders".
BF> A "WORM" drive uses a COMPLETELY different mode of
BF> operation, and is NOT CD-
BF> ROM compatable in any way, shape, OR form.
BF> Ditto "Erasable Optical" (AKA "ReMOD") drives like
BF> the Maxtor Tahiti....
A pioneer WORM drive claims to be compatible. I saw an add for it. Maybe,
it's proprietary.
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From: DAVE REED Number: 2690
To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Date: 09/07/93 6:26a
Subj: Southern Beauties Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Ismail!
Monday September 06 1993, Ismail Arslangiray writes to Lee Noga:
>> In a message to NEIL BERGMAN <09-02-93 23:21> Ismail Arslangiray wrote:
>> IA>> > SOUTHERN BEAUTIES $31.91 (BBS READY)
>> IA>> YES
>> No-No-No-No-No-No-No-+-Read the back of the cover--This is one company
>> who I feel will be very aggressive with litigation if their scans are put
>> on the BBS--This disc *IS NOT* BBS acceptable, and should not be used as
>> such.
IA> Seems like both of your disk have legal problems and there is an apperent
IA> piss contest. I am sorry but you guys need to handle your own problems. I
IA> was only helping to another echo participant.
No you weren't. You were giving him advice that could potentially land him in
court with a copyright infringement suit. Anyone who follows the industry
knows that Southern Beauties is NOT to be used on a BBS. And what do Lee's
"legal problems" and "piss contest" have to do with that? Go back to your
corner, and stay there until you learn how to be a good boy.
... "Sleeping with the Enemy" -- Starring William J. Clinton
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From: MARK GLENN Number: 2691
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/07/93 5:22p
Subj: NEW DR.CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Boris!
is the black box out yet?
* WCE 1.10/2159 * Now diamonds AND AIDS are forever.
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From: ROBERT MCGEHEE Number: 2692
To: ALL Date: 09/07/93 9:01p
Subj: READ ME Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Everyone, I was going to get a CD-Rom, I was looking at a Texel, 265
m/s acces time, for $379. If anyone has a better deal, or has the
CD-Rom and can tell me about it, please, please write me on E-mail.
For all those software dealers out there, When I get my CD-Rom, which
will be very soon, I will need software, so please send me your
catalogs. My address is:
Robert McGehee
251 Arapaho Lane
Madison, MS
39110-9193
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From: DON PRYOR Number: 2693
To: DAVE REED Date: 09/07/93 5:02p
Subj: n.o. 9 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Hello Don!
> Saturday September 04 1993, Don Pryor writes to all:
> DP> Is NightOwl 9 BBS Ready?
> Yes.
Thanks Dave...
Now to find the least expensive place to send my money order.
I would accept offers via netmail to my board at 1:291/6, in particular
a directory of it's contents. Know where I could find same? I'd even
freq it...
Don
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From: DON PRYOR Number: 2694
To: CARL SLAWINSKI Date: 09/07/93 5:06p
Subj: Night Owl 9 $25 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Ahoy Janusz!
> On <Monday August 30 1993>, Janusz Surowka was mumbling to Kevin
> Plummer:
> JS> what the hell is this Night owl
> Person who stays up late. 8-)
That's like the country boy who thought a quarterback was a refund..
D,
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From: GORDON FLETCHER Number: 2695
To: ANDRE QUEREE Date: 09/06/93 11:25a
Subj: KODAK PHOTO CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Andre, I have Soundblaster Pro with their Mitsumi player. Will Kodak
photos work with this and Paint Shop Pro? I use PSP for viewing GIFs and
PCX files ond CD-Rom and it works fine. Except that it won't edit the CD
itself. However, I can edit the image, change the format and save it to
file. I wonder if that can be done with Kodak?
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From: EDWARD ZDROK Number: 2696
To: ALL Date: 09/07/93 1:21p
Subj: CD ROM drives for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have 2 Toshiba external 600ms CD ROM drives for sale. Includes
controller cards and cables.
Asking $175 a piece or $325 for both (+ S/H)
If interested, please leave voice message at (908) 272-3562.
Thanks
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From: JIM CONOVER Number: 2697
To: ALL Date: 09/07/93 8:46a
Subj: WD7000 SCSI Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm currently in need of some WD7000-FASST2 SCSI host adapters. Anyone out
there that might have any (working or not) to get rid of, please let me know
on this echo. Thanx.
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From: AL KOLLER Number: 2698
To: RYAN MENDEL Date: 09/07/93 8:18p
Subj: Re: BBS CDs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Ryan,
Try a new shareware program called CD ACCESS by Corry MacFarlane. You can
freq it here or find it closer to you. It is a door program that sets the
entire environment and helps you catalog any CD to work on a BBS.
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 2699
To: RODOLFO VAZ Date: 09/06/93 7:50p
Subj: Cd-rom Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> ... four months later ... YES! My CD-ROM driver (Mitsumi) got
>FOUR MONTHS to arrive here, in Brasilia. Do you believe ??? Four
>months ???? It's incredible, but I thougth that it wouldn't take so
>long, and the salesman told me it would take only three or four days :(
Four months??? That is ridiculous! Well, I'm glad you did FINALLY get
it though.
I'll dig your address out of my database and get you a copy of my latest
catalog. Yes, I do take Mastercard & Visa. I'm glad to hear you are up
and running with your drive now. Let me know if you need anything.
Take care.
Jim...
Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card & COD Orders
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 2700
To: RODOLFO VAZ Date: 09/06/93 8:04p
Subj: Re: CD-Rom Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> as I wrote other day, my CDROM arrived just three days ago, and
>as I was CRAZY to test it, I bought the NIGHT OWL 9 CDrom. And I would
>like you to send me the new catalog, if it is possible. I have the
>catalog you sent to me three months ago, and I'm sure it is out of date,
>right ? Please, send the Credit Card form to pay the CDs with
>International Credit Card, O.K. ?
No problem. I'll get it right out.
Jim...
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 2701
To: ALL Date: 09/06/93 9:54p
Subj: New CD-Roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
The new CD-Rom titles are starting to roll in. Here are a few examples:
Shareware Explorer - The best multiple disc set to be released to date!
There are 3 MS-DOS discs and 1 Windows disc. 26,000 files with less
than 1% duplication. These discs are easy to set up with SF-Rom or
EZ-ROM using the PCBoard style file lists with dates and sizes. File
dates are mostly 1992 and 1993, which is very impressive for a
collection this large! Price $59.00
King's Quest VI "Heir Today, Gone Tomorrow" - A multimedia fantasy &
adventure game by Sierra. A shipwrecked prince must find his way across
a series of islands in search of a princess in peril. You'll need all
your wits and imagination to overcome the gauntlet of baffling puzzles
and fantastic creatures that attempt to keep you from your goal.
Can be played under DOS or Windows. Price $50.00
Precision Mapping - A complete mapping program that includes
street-level maps of the entire continental United States on two CD-Rom
discs. The end-user can view, edit, print, and query map data at any
scale from the entire U.S. down to a city block. Look up addresses,
measure distances, plan out travel routes, print out laser quality maps,
clip raster images for import to other packages, create your own
customized maps of virtually any type or scale...and much more!
This is version 1.5 with improved online help. This set also includes
the American Business Phonebook CD-Rom. Price $85.00
Look for the following new shareware titles coming soon:
Software Vault Gold
PC Sig Volume 13
Shareware Studio III
Phoenix 4
Pier 3
Computer Works CD-Rom Sales! Call for our latest catalog or
(205) 793-4481 Voice log on and download catalog.zip.
(205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card & COD Orders
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From: ERIC ESKAM Number: 2702
To: ALL Date: 09/07/93 8:54p
Subj: Panasonic Cr-523b Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Help!
I am using the above drive with the 8 bit card, but I don't have drivers.
Could someone please hint at which drivers I would need (filename if possible)
and where to get them (BBS, Panasonic, etc.). The tech support person for this
particular CD ROM drive is real difficult to get ahold of - I have been playing
telephone tag with him for several days, so if I could find away around him I
would be very happy!
Eric
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From: NEIL BERGMAN Number: 2703
To: LANGSTON GOLDFINCH Date: 09/07/93 12:12a
Subj: SALE CD-ROM'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> 1:396/17 or leave number and name to p'req.
I can be reached:
Voice: (310) 652-2858
Fax: (310) 652-2858
Better yet, leave me a mailing address and I'll mail you a
catalog and other goodies.
Thanks for the interest.
Neil Bergman
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From: GREG ARMENIA Number: 2704
To: ALL Date: 09/08/93 1:17a
Subj: The Pier Shareware CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
**************************************
**** The Pier Shareware #3 CD-ROM ****
**************************************
We are now taking pre-orders for The Pier Shareware #3
ONLY $39.00 With FREE Shipping During Pre-orders Season!
The Pier Exchange (tm) is proud to present the HOTTEST and most
CURRENT CD-ROMs ever released. The Pier Shareware CD-ROMs are a series
of sequential updated disks containing the latest Shareware programs.
All files on the discs are TRULY the most CURRENT files available on
the market at the time of their release. Unlike other Shareware CD-ROMs
that claim to have current files, The Pier Exchange has assured this
with "Smart Date Checking." (S.D.C.) Such dated files as FILE_ID.DIZ,
READ.ME, etc., within the archives are disregarded giving you TRULY the
latest files.
The Pier Exchange CD-ROM Publishing has set the standards for
Shareware CD-ROMs in regrades to the quality of files one comes to
expect on CD-ROMs. Now we would like to set the standard on CD-ROM
Access Software!
Introducing for the first time on The Pier Shareware #3, ThePier
v2.0 High Performance CD-ROM Access Program. This is not a GUI
interface put over v1.0, but rather a complete rewrite, and as a
result it is 300% FASTER then version 1.0. The GUI interface will
support EGA or VGA graphic modes. There is full mouse support with
pull-down menus. The Search menu will allow you to search ThePier
database for matching file names, keywords, or archive content file
names. The viewers are one of the nicest features of ThePier. They
allow you to associate programs with data files on the basis of the
data file extension. ThePier has a built-in viewer that is used as the
default viewer unless you specify something different. You will have
the ability to add additional comments associated with any file within
the database. The ability to copy or extract files to any path, on the
fly!
Features Of ThePier v.2.0:
* GUI Graphical Interface - EGA VGA * Keywords Search
* Full Mouse Support * File Name Search
* Pull-down Menus * File Name Within Archive Search
* File Comment Field Entries * Copy/Extract Files
* Searches 300% Faster Then V.1.0 * Built-in Default Text File
Viewer
* Multiple File Viewer Configuration * Can Run In Text Mode
* Will Not Modify AUTOEXEC.BAT * Blows Competitors Out of The
Water
**************************
The Pier Shareware #3 Features: * Subjects *
* ---------------------- *
* Windows Applications *
* 640+ Megs of Shareware files * Windows Games *
* <ASP> directory * Programing Languages *
* 100% files dated 1993 S.D.C. * Programing Tools *
(Smart Date Checking in place) * SVGA GIF Pictures *
* ThePier v2.0 retrieval software contained * Educational Programs *
on the CD-ROM (High Performance CD-ROM * Games / Entertainment *
Access) * Sound Blaster /MIDI *
* All files have been scanned for * DTP / Clipart *
viruses with the latest McAfee SCAN * Bible *
* Full GAP, PCBoard, Spitfire, Wildcat! * Medical / Health *
Remote Access FILES.BBS Support * Word Processing *
* Less then 1% duplication between * Laser/Printer Utils *
The Pier Shareware 1 & 2 * BBS Programs / Doors *
* Most current files on the market * Communications *
* 30 day money back guarantee * Legal *
* OS/2 Programs/Utils *
* *
Distributors/Dealers are welcomed. * And Much Much More! *
**************************
We are now taking pre-orders for The Pier Shareware #3, and of
course, with all pre-orders shipping and handling is FREE! Order by
voice, FAX, or BBS online ORDER door. The cost of the CD-ROM is only
$39.00. We accept all major credit cards, check, and money order. Check
and money order must be US funds and drawn on US banks. Make check
payable to: The Pier Exchange, 128 Carmel Rd., Buffalo NY 14214
T h e #1 S h a r e w a r e C D - R O M
And We Back Our CD-ROMs With a 30 Day Money Back Guarantee!!!!
Pre-order yours today and we will pay the shipping!
ORDERS ONLY 1 - 8 0 0 - 4 3 8 - 9 7 3 4
International Orders, FAX, or Information 716-875-4931, BBS 716-875-3130
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2705
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/08/93 2:48a
Subj: Re: US national phonedisc Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BO>>>> I am looking for the above named disc sets. NOT PROPHONE!
BO>>>> Does anyone sell or have info on these?
BO>>Ron, " Phone Disk USA " !! Comes in business or residental versions.
>> What, if anything, is the advantage of PhoneDisk USA over
>> ProPhone (I have the 3-disc prophone set)?
Prophone isn't as up to date as PhoneDisk USA. It doesn't offer as many
nice features as well.
For the money, PhoneDisk USA is a far better better than ProPhone and
more accurate in it's phone listings.
We have a large number of customers that are very happy with PhoneDisk,
in both versions.
Interested in additional information, please feel free to give us a call
at 216-225-3263 anytime 7 days a week and we'll be happy to assist you
further.
Boris Osadciw
... Who Killed Superman?
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2706
To: GEOFF LEWIS Date: 09/08/93 2:48a
Subj: Re: WANTED Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
>> Boris, just wanted to let you know that the DRM 604X I got
>> from you is working fine, and I'm enjoying the hell out of it.
>> Great boost for the BBS!
Glad to hear it Geoff, you'll also be just as impressed with our
totally new concept in providing you with information on our cdrom
product line as well as a bunch of FREE BEES to our customers.
Watch your mail box soon.....or leading magazine!!!
Boris Osadciw
... Xpress Yourself!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2707
To: TOM BROWN Date: 09/08/93 2:48a
Subj: Re: CD for BBS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> I am looking for a CD that has files on it that are for BBS
>> use. I am talking about doors, protocols, added features. I
>> am running TAG bbs and it is Compatable with almost ALL other
>> bbs programs. It is VERY easy to use for both the sysop and
>> the user. It user the FILES.DIR format. If you have a disk of
>> this type, please let me know.
Please feel free to contact us via the fidonet address below and we'll
be happy to assist you further as we carry a large number of BBS relaited
cd's that will fit your needs.
Hope this helps..
Boris Osadciw
... Xpress Yourself!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2708
To: COLIN BELL Date: 09/08/93 2:48a
Subj: Re: Drive speed Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> I am considering putting a scsi cd rom drive online on my BBS.
>> I don't 4 really want to spend too much on the drive but I
>> have to be sure that it will be able to keep up with people
>> downloading. My modem is 14400 BPS & the serial port is locked
>> at 19200 bps. I noticed that the NEC drives that the local
>> store carries (the cheaper ones) have 500ms access speed. Is
>> that fast enough to keep up with my modem. My HD's are all
>> quantums that are about 15ms so I thought 500ms was a BIG
>> difference. I will later be getting a multispin cdrom for my
>> personal machine so don't really care if the BBS one can't do
>> photo-cd's or whatever. What speed is the Pioneer DRM-600A ??
>> coz I notice a few sysops use that. How does the Pioneer drive
>> handle it if 2 people are online & they try & access files on
>> different disks at the same time? 8) I presume it is 1
>> mechanism with a carousel or is it 6 mechanisms & able to
>> access each at the same time.
Give us a call at 216-225-3263 and we'll be happy to asist in selecting
a cdrom drive for your BBS as we carry almost every major brand out there
and run several of them on our own BBS.
Yes, we also have the Pioneer 6-disk changer as well as the NSM 100 disk
changer and all of them online on our BBS.
Give us a call, you'll be glad you did !
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2709
To: DANNY TONG Date: 09/08/93 2:48a
Subj: Re: Mod, 669 or wav on cd-rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Has anybody seen a CD-ROM with MOD, 669 or WAV for sale?
We have a CD call "Soundware", it contains over 10,000 diffrent
sound files and programs. It claims to be the largest selection
of sound files every collected.
Interest, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy
to assist you further.
Boris Osadciw
... Protected Mode Xpress! It's hot!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2710
To: ALL Date: 09/08/93 2:48a
Subj: DR. CD Collection Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
)))))))))))))))))))))) H O T N E W C D ' S ((((((((((((((((((((((
DR. MUSIC - Music Editors, MOD, MIDI, ROL, SND, VOC, WAV and more!
DR. SHAREWARE - 615 megs of shareware programs and utilities!
DR. GAMES - 600+ megs of Adventure, Arcade, Card, Sports and more!
DR. WINDOWS - 3,440 files of window programs and utilities!
All BBS READY !! - BUY 5 AND GET THE 6TH ONE FREE !!
Price - $55.00 for all 4 or $20.00ec
DEALERS WELCOME
ORDER LINE ONLY - 800-243-0517 - TECH - 216-225-3263 - FAX - 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
... I married the Mail Lady!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2711
To: ALL Date: 09/08/93 2:49a
Subj: Hot CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
$$$$$$$ R E D H O T C D' S A T R E D H O T P R I C E S $$$$$$$
CD POWERBOX/WINDOWS - $20 COMPTONS ENCYC UPGRADE - $95.
GAME OR SOUNDWARE - $25. ALL CHESTNUT TITLES - $10.
HACKER CHRONICAL - $18. JOKES/PRANKS - 1001 UTIL - $10.
NIGHT OWL 9.0 - $25. KINGS QUEST VI - $47.
SO-MUCH-SHAREWARE 3 - $29. TOOLWORKS ENCYC DOS/WIN - $49.
SHAREWARE EXPLORER - $59. 9000 SOUNDS - $25.
SOFTWARE VAULT 2 - $20. 5 STAR PREM DOS/WIN - $29.
DR.CD COLLECTION - 4 CD'S - $55. PC KARAOKE W/MICROPHONE - $89.
800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) - TECH 216-225-3263 - FAX 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... Pioneering Off-line Mail Technology!
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From: SCOTT MCMILLAN @ 913/8 Number: 2712
To: ALL Date: 09/07/93 10:30a
Subj: Low, Low cd prices Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Sole Source Systems
8128-C Mercury Point
San Diego, CA 92111
Tel: 619-467-0661
Fax: 619-467-0665
BBS: 619-467-0666
September 6, 1993
Special Pricing
Minimum order must exceed $100, prepaid only - NO COD's, FOB San Diego
California. Prices good for stock on hand. Offer expires September 31,
1993.
501 Sound Waves (SN) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .$21
Adventures of Willie Beamish (GA). . . . . . . . . . $15
Aesop's Fables . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $29
All American Multimedia (GR) . . . . . . . . . . . $18
Amazing Universe (ED) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $49
America's Premier Shareware 1993 (SW) . . . $19
Amiga Shareware (SW) . . . . $11
Annabel's Dream of Ancient Egypt (ED) . . . . . . . . $49
Animation Fantasies (Adult) . . . . . . . . . . . $19
(Too Many To List Here !!!!, freq the file
"prices.txt" for the rest)
Caddies
We have the standard sony type caddies - all japanese construction,
which is better - yet more expensive than the american product. For
resellers, we have the following prices:
Japanese "Sony" type caddies
Qty 1-99 $4.79 each
Qty 100+ $4.00 each
Qty 300+ $3.80 each
We also have the new swiss designed and manufactured "TriCaddy", this
revolutionary new product has no moving parts. It is completely made of
plastic and it is designed with the User who stores his CD's in their
caddies permanently. The user can remove his jewel case insert and place
it in the front of the Caddy.
Swiss "TriCaddy" type caddies
Qty 1-49 $4.59 each
Qty 50+ $4.00 each
Qty 100+ $3.65 each
Call for large Qty price!
CD Rom Drives (Special Pricing, limited to stock on hand)
Hitachi Internal CD Rom Drive 800 Ms., Prop. Control. . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . $135
NEC Intersect External SCSI (With Packing - Complete). . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . .$235
Panasonic SCSI Internal 500 Ms., 90 day swapout warranty w/o controller.
. . . . . . . $250
Panasonic SCSI External 500 Ms., 90 day swapout
warranty w/o controller. . . . . . . . $300
Controller for Panasonic SCSI Drive with Cable . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . .$35
ACT NOW!!! DON'T WAIT - THESE DEALS WON'T LAST!!!
<?,A,C,D,G,H,L,Q,S,V,X
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# Origin: SOLE SOURCE RBBS (8:913/8)
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From: JOE HAYES Number: 2713
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/04/93 1:54p
Subj: CDROM Slows BBS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GP> Almost NOTHING except Lantastic will work with those proprietary
GP> boards.It's almost like throwing money down the toilet.
JH>If so how much do they want for there software?
GP> I bought a two-node demo version of WEB LAN for 10DM (about $6),
GP> complete with full docs, at CeBIT in Germany in March or April.
Did you buy the boards and the software?
Sounds like an awful good deal to me..
-Joe
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From: JOHN HART Number: 2714
To: TONY STOTT Date: 09/05/93 5:04p
Subj: New Mpc Specs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> On 08-24-93, Gordon Peterson elucidated to Rowan Evans:
->
-> GP>RE>For info, the Multimedia council has released the MPC level 2 s
-> GP>and I have listed it below :-
-> GP>
-> GP>I urge EVERYONE to boycott this garbage. A standard isn't a stand
-> GP>the people making the hardware and software can continue to "raise
-> GP>bar" by increasing the hardware required every six to twelve month
-> GP>Why go to the trouble of meeting a standard, if six months later y
-> GP>find that you're still screwed? :-((
-> GP>
->
-> Sorry that you're upset Gordon, but until we can get full-motion
-> full-screen high resolution video with integrated hi-fi sound and
-> full-length movies on cd-rom, I think the standards are going to keep
-> moving upwards.
->
-> The real benefit of standards is that it allows authors of multimedia
-> titles to pick a level of equipment to aim at. Obviously, authors wit
-> business sense will NOT exclude big sections of their potential marke
-> so they will pitch their product accordingly. Some other authors will
-> "push the envelope" because they believe their product will be attrac
-> enough to cause users to upgrade their equipment (7th Guest immediate
-> springs to mind..).
->
-> I would never recommend someone buys less than an MPC-2 standard comp
-> (in fact I'd aim a little higher in the memory and hard disk areas),
-> that doesn't mean I'd sneer at someone who owns lesser equipment..
->
True, you don't want to be outdated right after you buy your equipment,
but it happens pretty soon anyways. Current stuff sure costs a lot
though. Seventh guest plays just fine on my MPC setup (Mistsumi LU0005
and Sound Blaster Pro.)
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From: DOUG SCHWANTES Number: 2715
To: RICHARD POUNCY Date: 09/05/93 6:28a
Subj: CD-ROM disk cache Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I use HyperDisk 4.60 now and it is the fastest Cache I've ever used
but it does not seem to Cache my CD-ROM drive. I have HyperDisk loaded after
MSCDEX (the latest version that comes with DOS 6) but I can read a GIF from
the CD and then go to read it again and it takes just all long the 2nd time as
the 1st, any hints? Thanks, BYE!!!
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From: RON YOUNG Number: 2716
To: ALL Date: 08/30/93 12:21p
Subj: Creative Labs # Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Anyone have the phone number for creative labs bbs here in the US?
Ron Young
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From: MARC CIRCOSTA Number: 2717
To: ALL Date: 09/04/93 9:51a
Subj: Aus. 562B distributor? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi All!
Just wondering if I could ask a about the availablity of the new Panasonic
562B drive that everybody seems to be tac...), or maybe even better, if it
comes packages with the SB16 and needed cables to join the two?
Thanks fot the time
Marc.
(Please tell me if this message is off topic and not allowed...)
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From: MARC CIRCOSTA Number: 2718
To: TOM ARRUDA Date: 09/04/93 9:59a
Subj: Need Number Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 08-29-1993, TOM ARRUDA wrote...
TA> I have recently purchased a CR-562B drive from MPS. I am running
TA> from a Sound Blaster 16 card. I have had nothing but problems with
TA> the drive. It constantly causes "General Protection faults" when run
TA> in Windows. I have the "Seventh Guest" and "Day of the Tentacle"
TA> that run under dos, both lock up and halt the entire system. I am
TA> using a 486dx33 with 8megs of ram ,DOS 6.0, MSCDEX 2.2,Qemm7.0,
TA> Norton SpeedCache 4.0. I need the number for Creative Labs BBS. Any
TA> help would be GREATLY appreciated.
I think I remeber hearing a fair while back people having problems with
Nortons Speedcache and the way it handles itse or Hyperdisk and see if the
probs go away... Anyway, just a bit of a stab in the dark.
Marc.
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From: RALPH BUTTIGIEG Number: 2719
To: ALL Date: 09/06/93 8:03p
Subj: CREAM IN AUSTRALIA! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
%%%%%%%%%%% CREAM OF THE CROP IS NOW AVAILABLE IN AUSTRALIA! %%%%%%%%%%
The best one disk shareware CDROM is now available in Australia. Cream of
the Crop has no GIFs, no music, and no adult files, just more then 600megs
of the best shareware software around. Not only is there a easy to use
front end program but it has been specially designed for BBS use. It will
instantly install on Maximus, RA, Spitfire, Quick BBS and PC Board.
Price :$55.00
Freq CREAM.ARJ from 3:713/635 for more details or ring Vulcan's World BBS.
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From: SIMON MACKAY Number: 2720
To: ALL Date: 09/05/93 7:56p
Subj: SB Pro SCSI Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
*** CROSS-POST TO CD-ROM Echo ************
RH>Oh great just what i don't want! One SB-Pro 100% clone with Aztec chip
RH>the Sound Galaxy NX Pro. Sound Blaster, Sound Blaster Pro, Covox Speec
RH>Disney Sound System, Adlib 100% compatible. Has CD-rom interface for A
RH>Can ad chip to enable SCSI bus interface as well. $220 for it as new i
RH>with manual and most of its warrenty. Ph (02) 744-2486 or netmail. Don
RH>or need as have a PAS16 which i'm happy with.
RH>---
Where can you get the SCSI chip to convert an ordinary AT-BUS SBPro CD
interface into a SCSI SB-Pro CD interface?
Is the SCSI conversion ASPI compatible? Will there be an adapter to suit
external SCSI devices?
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From: ROBERT STEPHENS Number: 2721
To: SEAN TUDOR Date: 09/04/93 3:03p
Subj: 7th Guest CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
ST> Hi all,
ST>
ST> I am running the 7th Guest on a CR-562-B and a Sound Blaster 16.
ST> The game runs fine BUT the music is so loud I can barely hear the
ST> characters talking in the game. Does anyone else have this problem
ST> ? Could it be due to the fact that the game is using a Sound
ST> Blaster Pro OPL/3 driver that is not entirely compatible with the
ST> SB16.
I have a PAS16 myself, but with the SB16 you should be able to set the
volume levels of the mixer from all different sources, for example
with the PAS16 i can set the FM volume, the DIgital volume, in cd-input
volume (and a heap more), i'd say you have to lower the FM volume
before you play T7G, make a batch file to do this (check up your
utilities that came with the SB16), its much easier.
-Robert
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From: ROBERT STEPHENS Number: 2722
To: ANDRE QUEREE Date: 09/06/93 6:10p
Subj: 16 bit cards Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AQ> -=> Quoting Eric Hsiao to Andre Queree <=-
AQ>
AQ> EH> Who cares if it isn't compatible with the SB16. The SB16 came out
AQ> EH> after the PAS-16 and the PAS-16 has the upperhand for 16-bit sound.
AQ> EH> There aren't any games that support the SB16 but not the PAS-16.
It's
AQ> EH> not a limiting factor at all. The PAS-16 is still a great card.
AQ>
AQ> I didn't mention the SB16 - I said it wasn't compatible with the
AQ> SB Pro. There IS a fair bit of software which supports the SB Pro,
AQ> and an PAS-16 user who boasts about how great his card is is still
AQ> only going to get low quality mono sound out of these games.
Sometimes I wish the PAS16 didnt have SB emulation and make the bloddy
game makers support the card fully!, instead of crappy mono SB arrgh!
-Robert
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2723
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/07/93 8:59p
Subj: Re: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
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Hi Les!
On 09-04-93 Leslie Rhorer wrote to Rowan Evans...
LR> PL> The cheapest caddies I've bought (and this is cheaper than
LR> PL> what a dealer I know can get them for) was via this echo,
LR> PL> from a local contact (take a bow, Tony S. :).
LR>
LR> Once again, you are in Australia, so pricing is different.
That's right - and as such it makes your type of operation with one
caddy per CD-ROM just so much pixie dust!
LR> RE> Well, I operate on "open CD-ROM, extract old ROM, place in case,
LR> RE> open new ROM case, place on tray, close tray".... Simple,
LR> RE> foolproof process...
LR> RE> No hassles!
LR>
LR> It is neither simple nor foolproof, and requires at
LR> least twice the number of steps that the caddies do. Some
LR> cases are difficult to open. Once opened, extracting the
LR> CD can be hazardous both from the perspective of
LR> fingerprints and from the possibility of dropping the Cd
LR> while trying to extract it. Most jewel cases tend to hang
LR> on to the CD rather firmly, and getting it out can be a
LR> minor hassle.
That's so, but most do give up gracefully if you hold the
jewel case in one hand and place your thumb on the centre of the
CD-ROM, pressing down on the retaining tags and lift up with your
index finger..... I have seen lots of people struggle with CDs and
CD-ROMs trying to lift them out with thumb on one side and index
finger on the other - the retaining tabs hold tight!
LR> RE> BTW, if you have an audio CD player, is it a caddy type or a tray
LR> RE> type??
LR>
LR> I have several, and they all use caddies. The six
LR> disk magazines are even cheaper than the singe caddy, at $8
LR> for a magazine. OTOH, the audio CD's are much cheaper in
LR> general than the data CD's.
There again I have had both... Whilst I like the benefit of 6 hours
of music, I like to vary the music and its a bit hard to select the
type of music when you put CDs into a magazine.... I find that, unless
its for a party, I put two or three CDs in a cartridge and remove them
when finished....
What we have is a fundamental disagreement re caddies, etc and your saying
that caddy prices are cheap in the US makes little sense to someone in
Australia that *HAS* to pay $A15.00 per caddy.....
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2724
To: JOE SLIFER Date: 09/07/93 9:05p
Subj: Cd-Rom Help Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Joe!
On 09-03-93 Joe Slifer wrote to Rowan Evans...
JS> Hi Rowan!
JS>
JS> RE> Nope, just stick the 8-bit paddle card back in and lose a slot!
JS> RE> In fact I'm thinking of using a PAS16 with the
JS> RE> next CR562B as it doesn't have the
JS> RE> annoying sound dropouts in the speech of T7G!
JS>
JS> An 8-bit card comes with a *double* speed drive? How does this affect
JS> the drives performance?
Someone posted to me that the SB Pro, etc interface was only 8 bit anyway!
But performance is not affected (well is *IS* down on that experienced
when the drive is attached to an SB Pro, etc) and benchmarks return
figures that match the spex....
JS> I was seriously considering this drive for the ejectable tray
JS> feature plus of course the *bang* for the buck.
Buy one! You won't be sorry!
JS> Is the 450ms access in double-speed mode
JS> noticeable plus the afore mentioned card. Thank
Not really! The access speed seemed, in double speed mode, to be as fast
as the SONY CDU-31A I had, and it was better than 450ms... maybe the
spex were stated on the conservative side.....
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2725
To: LOUIS GHINIS Date: 09/07/93 9:19p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM BUNDLES Refer: NONE
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Hi Louis!
On 09-04-93 Louis Ghinis wrote to Darrell Davis...
LG> -> >-> I just ordered a Fusion 16 package with a 380 ms drive. I
LG> -> >-> ordered it >-> directly from Media Vision. Most of the retail
LG> -> stores seem to have >-> older packages on the shelves. The package
LG> -> was $399 with $9 >-> shipping. > > That was a typo you said 800ms
LG> -> there ok that sounds right.
LG> -> I don't understand what you are trying to say. Mine is not a
LG> -> typo.
LG> -> The drive is a 380ms drive.
LG>
LG> It must be a typo the panasonic 562b/563 drives have 320ms access
LG> time not 380ms unless thats not the drive you get with it?
There are various Fusion CD16 kits around.... of the ones I have seen
advertised, the real cheap ones have either the SONY CDU-31A or a
Philips drive in them, the more expensive ones use an NEC CDR-74-1 drive....
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2726
To: BRAD LEWIS Date: 09/07/93 9:28p
Subj: N.owl9 SBPro CD-Rom 521C Refer: NONE
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Hi Brad!
On 09-04-93 Brad Lewis wrote to All...
BL> About a year ago I purchased a SBPro mutimidia kit with an
BL> Internal CD-Rom drive Model 521C and You would not believe
BL> the different stories I get as I go from store to store
BL> with my question.
BL> I have been told that Creative Labs still includes the
BL> same CD-rom drive in the kit as it did back then.
BL> I have my doubts. I bought Nightowl 9 and found I could not read it;
BL> so, I began my quest to find out why.
Sorry to hear about your woes!
Some of the older SB MM kits are still available, but the newer kits
incluse the Panasonic CR563 CD-ROM drive.... I have its OEM cousin here,
the CR562B and it runs Night Owl 9 fine!
The problems with some CD-ROMs occur due to the fact that some (Mitsumis,
CR521s, some SONY CDU-31As) are unable to acess the inner track of the
CD....
Someone told me that this is the starting point for the CD, not the outer
edge of the CD.... sounds plausible....
Find a dealer and trade-in your CR521 for a CR562B/CR563 and you'll be
sweet.... double speed drive with 320ms avg access and a motorised tray...
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2727
To: STEVE GOYER Date: 09/07/93 9:33p
Subj: Sb-16 Refer: NONE
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Hi Steve!
On 09-01-93 Steve Goyer wrote to All...
SG> So, if I have a SoundBlaster-16 (which I will soon have) I
SG> can just hook the CD ROM into the card, right?
Sure can - if its a Panasonic!
Either the CR52x series (single speed) or CR56x series (double speed)
are compatible!
My advice - grab a CR562B from a dealer near you! A lot of dealers post
in this echo and you should be able to grab one for around $US280.00...
Cheers!
o
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From: SEAN TUDOR Number: 2728
To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Date: 09/07/93 8:44a
Subj: Re: KQ5 & SQ4 CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> and Ismail Arslangiray was heard mumbling to Sean Tudor <=-
IA> Hi,
IA> You need and updated driver. (I assume you are suing SB - 562 combo).
IA> TTYL
IA> GroupWare
Thanks Ismail - I am trying to contact Ozisoft for the updated drivers.
Cya,
Sean.
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From: VICTOR ZDANOWICZ Number: 2729
To: ALL Date: 09/07/93 2:59p
Subj: Aust CD Seller. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Can anyone tell me about a good CD-ROM distributer?... I am moslty interseted
in Cd's filled with vga 1024x768 grahpic's......... gifs.
Vz thanks..
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From: STEPHEN RANSON Number: 2730
To: ALL AUSTRALIAN READERS Date: 09/07/93 1:49a
Subj: Cd-rom Special Offer Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Special Offer for BBS users only! Join the Australian CD-ROM Club before
the end of September and you will receive a FREE CD-ROM with your first
order. A small annual investment of $25 entitles you to:
o Huge catalogue regularly delivered to your home. You can choose from
more than 300 titles, with descriptions of most titles to make the
choice easier. You will have Access to over 1000 titles.
o 10% discount on all your CD-ROM software purchases made through your
club.
o To stay up to date with what's occuring in CD-ROM through your
regular newsletter.
o Freecall (008) 811190 mail ordering for your convenience.
Call today to join! (008) 811190 or FAX (06)2914591, CITACT BBS
(06)2928288
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From: DAVID WINGER Number: 2731
To: LAURIE BATT Date: 09/07/93 6:34p
Subj: Misleading Answers Refer: NONE
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On 09-05-93 Laurie Batt wrote to David Winger...
LB> G'day David, In a message on <Sep 04>, you said :
LB>
LB>
LB> DW> On 09-03-93 Tony Stott wrote to David Winger...
LB> DW>
LB> TS>> On 08-31-93, David Winger elucidated to Sunny Leung:
LB> TS>>
LB> TS>> DW> SL> Can you produce your own CD's?
LB> TS>> DW>Yes, but you need a WORM drive for that.
LB> TS>>
LB> TS>> WRONG! A Writeable cdrom drive will ALSO enable you to
LB> TS>> produce your own one-off cdrom disks
LB> DW> A writable CD-ROM is a WORM!
LB> DW> ^^^--------Read ONLY Memory.
LB>
LB> A worm drive is not the same as CDROM
LB> The media used is different to the cdrom and therefore
LB> cannot be used in a cdrom drive.
LB> The Writable CDROM may be able to Write Once and Read Many
LB> but is not WORM , which is a different size disk.
LB> TS>> Guess what? WRONG AGAIN! You are describing floptical
LB> TS>> technology, magneto optical disks do not work that way,
LB> TS>> neither do cdroms.
LB> DW>
LB> DW> Sorry, Right again!
LB> DW> I never said CD-ROMS work that way. Read the message again.
LB> DW> Flopticals and Magneto Optical Disks are supposed to be the
LB> DW> same thing.
LB>
LB> NO not true
LB>
LB> DW> THE SYSGEN FLOPTICAL
LB> DW> A normal floppy drive just steps the heads across
LB> DW> the disk in preset increments. At the same time
LB> DW>
LB> DW> It should also be noted that floptical drives can
LB> DW> read standard 1.44 meg and 720k 3.5" floppy disks.
LB> DW>
LB>
LB> You have described a floptical.
LB> The Magneto Optical is a totally different thing and not in
LB> any way related to the floptical which is only available in
LB> 20MB and 128MB flavours. The Magneto optical is in the
LB> 500MB+ range. The Media used is also totally different
LB> .Uses the laser to free up an element which can be changed
LB> magnetically.
Oh shit! Now I am realy confused!
I get all my info from magazines. If they get it wrong, how am I
supposed to get it right?
Thanks for putting things right for me!
\ /
Dave (oo)
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From: TERRY MENZIES Number: 2732
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/05/93 9:44p
Subj: Re: Cdrom systems Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Boris Osadciw to All <=-
BO> *************** C D - R O M D R I V E P R I C E S
BO> Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit - $195.00
etc etc etc.
BO> Boris Osadciw
Hi Boris,
Please explain about "KIT" What do you get for $195.00 ?
TM.
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 2733
To: ANDRE QUEREE Date: 09/05/93 10:28a
Subj: 16 bit cards Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AQ>I didn't mention the SB16 - I said it wasn't compatible with the SB P
AQ>There IS a fair bit of software which supports the SB Pro, and an PAS
AQ>who boasts about how great his card is is still only going to get low
AQ>mono sound out of these games.
Even the best Stereo sound from the FM based soundcards you are talking
about is pretty ordinary. Wavetable cards sound tons better.
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From: JACQUES LEGRAND Number: 2734
To: DON RIEB Date: 09/06/93 9:38p
Subj: NEW FREE CDROM CATALOG! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please send it to Jacques Legrand
2155 rue Dickson, Sillery, QUEBEC, G1T 1C8 , Canada
Thanks.
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 2735
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/08/93 12:56a
Subj: Re: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DP> Give me a break! A person buys a 200.00 cd rom and can't
DP> afford the 5.00 for an extra caddy? When the software costs
DP> from 10-100 a disk, an extra 5.00 for the added convience
DP> of a caddy is hardly prohibitive.
RE> Well, a *CHEAP* CD-ROM drive in Australia is around the $A400.00 mark
RE> and what appears to me to happen is that a lot of users want to try the
RE> technology and, because the CD-ROM is a close relative to the Audio CD,
RE> they *EXPECT* that a CD-ROM drive will have a tray.
1. Then they deserve what they get for failing to do a minimal amount
of research before buying a product.
2. All of my audio CD's have magazines, and have for years.
RE> I had, as previously related to another person in this echo, a bad
RE> experience with an older type caddy CD-ROM drive and vowed then and
RE> there *NEVER* to buy a CD-ROM drive that used a caddy....
Folly persists, despite efforts to eradicate it. Abrogating a superior
technology in favor of an inferior one because of a poor purchasing decision,
is downright silly.
RE>
RE> I have (I just counted them!) 21 CD-ROMs here... If I had a caddy type
RE> drive and did as you suggested, that would be an additional $A105.00
I have over 250 CD's, both audio and CD-ROM, and each and every one is
in a caddy. Admittedly, the 6-CD magazines are somewhat cheaper per CD than
the single tray caddy, but when I had a single CD drive, I had a caddy for each
title.
Les
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From: RON FINDLING Number: 2736
To: ROBERT POWELL Date: 09/05/93 4:29p
Subj: Panasonic Cr562b Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>you will probably treat it very delicately and will most likely never
>damage one of your CD's inserting it in and out of a CDROM with a
>motorized tray. In the seven years I have been purchasing music CDs
>using portable and car CD players I have yet to trash my first CD.
There's quite a bit of difference. You may have in fact at one point
or another slightly damaged one of your music CDs, but the only effect
will likely have been a tiny skip in the music. The same sort of damage
to a CD-ROM disc however may affect crucial data, making the difference
between a program that runs and one that doesn't...
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From: SAM JONES Number: 2737
To: ALL Date: 09/08/93 11:34a
Subj: SHAREWARE PHOTO CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
To everyone with Photo CD compatible drives:
I have found two shareware programs that allow viewing of Kodak Photo CD's
on you PC. They are PaintShop Pro 2.0 and Graphics Workshop 1.1e.
Sam
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From: TOM MILLER Number: 2738
To: DON RIEB Date: 09/08/93 3:57p
Subj: New Free Cdrom Catalog! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DR>If you would like to be on the mailing list for the printed catalog send
your
DR>name and address to 1:115/724 or write:
Please put me on your mailing list
Tom Miller
P.O. Box 1089
Marrero, La 70073
Tom Miller
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From: LANGSTON GOLDFINCH Number: 2739
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/08/93 2:41p
Subj: SALE CD-ROM'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello NEIL!
07 Sep 93, NEIL BERGMAN writes to LANGSTON GOLDFINCH:
->> 1:396/17 or leave number and name to p'req.
NB> Better yet, leave me a mailing address and I'll mail you a
snail: 220 Helena St.
New Orleans, La. 70119-4332
Regards
Langston
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From: NORMAN HAVENS Number: 2740
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/07/93 12:46p
Subj: MITSUMI Refer: NONE
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BF*->Why not?
BF*-> Folks have been harrassing the American "esoteric audio" mags that have
BF*->claimed the same stupid stuff....
To be honest, I haven't delved into the Japanese rags for quite some
time, but they certainly need to be harrassed. Several years back
when I was shopping for components, I found a number of U.S.
magazines (*Stereo Review*, etc.) that at least tried to add some
degree of numerical "precision" to their tests by providing lab
data. Here, all (well, at least almost all) I could find was
amateurish sequential listening tests "designed" to determine, e.g.,
the difference in "sound quality" between differing models of CD
player. And that was back in the "early" days of CD, when there was
far less difference in the technology used between the various
players than there is even today.
--- WM v3.01/92-0751
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From: PATRICK MCCORMICK Number: 2741
To: ALL Date: 09/07/93 9:40a
Subj: OS/2 and Sony CD Player Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello everyone, I need some help..
Does anyone know where I can get a OS/2 driver for the Sony CDU6250
running on the CDB-242 card. I've just starting using OS/2 2.1 and can't
get the CD's to work, This is the Sony twinpack..
Thanks for any and all help.
Patrick..
... Drop your carrier ... we have you surrounded!
--- GEcho 1.01+/RA200+
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From: GAETANO CALIA Number: 2742
To: BERTRAND SCHMITT Date: 09/05/93 7:10p
Subj: Re: Kit 16ASP Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BS> I'm thinking of buying the Sound Blaster 16ASP Multimedia Upgrade Kit.
BS> Up to now, I was only able to find a 16 without the ASP version.
I ordered it in Germany and I am very impressed by the whole kit ! It's
called SOUND BLASTER CD16 ASP Edutainment Kit. You can have the Business
Version if you like, ask the folks there.
WIAL Versand
Groebenzell
Phone: 0049-8142-9011-8079-8273
Fax : 0049-8142-54654
The whole set will cost 1099.- DM, plus shipping 20 DM, plus duty 90 Swiss
Francs.
You can buy it in Switzerland at the InterDiscount, but Swiss prices are
ridiculous !!!
Greets, Gaetano
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From: GAETANO CALIA Number: 2743
To: TOM ARRUBA Date: 09/05/93 7:26p
Subj: CR-562 probs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TA>I have recently purchased a CR-562B drive from MPS. I am running from
TA>Sound Blaster 16 card. I have had nothing but problems with the drive
TA>It constantly causes "General Protection faults" when run in Windows.
Tom !!!!! Hold it right there !!! I got the SB CD16 Edutainment Kit with
the CR-563-B drive and the SB 16 ASP. Whenever I want to see just any
video clip from within a CD (The Animals or The Multimedia Encyclopedia)
I get the following message: "MMTASK caused a general protection failure
in module MSVIDC.DRV at xxxx:xxxx (address number here)..".
I then get to choose between IGNORE or CLOSE. Now when I choose IGNORE
three times in a row, then I get to see the clips, otherwise the programs
just stop and the system hangs...
The MSVIDC.DRV is the Video for Windows Compressor 1. I tried everything,
new setups, new configurations, new VGA-drivers, new installations, even
a new VGA-card and even a re-installation of Windows, a new CMOS setup
and all that sh.t ! Still nothing ! I started to think that I was the only
one to have that kind of problem...
TA>have the "Seventh Guest" and "Day of the Tentacle" that run under dos
TA>both lock up and halt the entire system.
I had some DOS-CD's, but they seemed to work perfect. The only problem
I got is the damned Video-clips under Windows...
TA> I am using a 486dx33 with 8m of ram ,DOS 6.0, MSCDEX 2.2,Qemm7.0,
I got a 386/33 with 4 MB RAM, smartdrv.sys and MSCDEX 2.2
RP> The number for Creative Labs BBS is (405)742-6660.
My manual (April 1993) says the following:
Creative Labs, Inc. Technical Support
1523 Cimarron Plaza, Stillwater, OK 74975, USA
Phone: (405) 742 66 22
Fax : (405) 742 66 33
BBS : (408) 428 66 60
Tom, if you could please relate to me what you found out ! I can't afford
long distance calls for long talks since I'm in Switzerland...please ?
You're my very last hope, since nobody here seems to understand that
failure !!!
Thank you very much, Gaetano
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From: GAETANO CALIA Number: 2744
To: SCOTT HOLMES Date: 09/05/93 7:31p
Subj: Re: Panasonic 563 & sb16 asp Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Scott
SH> I plan to purchase a CD-ROM drive and the Panasonic seems like the one
SH> for me (probably the 563), but I am wondering if peoople with games
SH> from LucasArts (Day of the tentical...) on CD have had sound trouble.
I never ever had any trouble playing any game from any company with my
SB CD 16 Edutainment Kit (CR-563B and SB 16 ASP). The only problem I
have that really bugs me, is that I seem not to be able to run video clips
from CD in Windows without getting the boring "protection failure"....
Greetings, Gaetano
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From: PHILIP CROOKES Number: 2745
To: DAVE REED Date: 09/06/93 7:45p
Subj: MANPOWER - NEW GAY CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DR >We do NOT have to tolerate immoral behavior. No one should.
What do you think is immoral in this context?
*Philip*
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From: DOUG ALLAN Number: 2746
To: ANDY MORRISON Date: 09/03/93 8:41a
Subj: CD-rom Shareware Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I reckon you should go for the Minerva CD Myself, but its up to you.
doug
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From: DAVE REED Number: 2747
To: STEWART ROTHMAN Date: 09/07/93 9:54p
Subj: Re: ProPhone 94 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message to BORIS OSACDIW <09-05-93 22:31> Stewart Rothman wrote:
SR> Also, I've been looking for a medical-type CD, not necessarily with
SR> medical symptoms and complaints, but a complete listing of
SR> prescription drugs and possible reactions/complications and a listing
SR> of other prescriptions/drugs that could react or inter-react with
SR> those.
Your best bet would be the Physician's Desk Reference, although I don't know
what it costs. Probably quite a bit, relative to other titles on the market.
Next time you go to the Doctor, look at his bookshelf, if you can, and you're
almost sure to find a copy of the bound version of PDR. The PDR is the
"industry standard."
--- QuickBBS 2.80 (Beta-11)
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From: DAVE REED Number: 2748
To: ALL Date: 09/07/93 9:58p
Subj: Toshiba 3301b Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have one demo unit... Toshiba XM-3301b (internal) for sale. It is the bare
drive... purchaser needs to supply a SCSI adapter and cable. Looking for
$329.
Dave Reed
CD-ROM International
(509) 754-0724 (Voice)
(509) 754-0109 (BBS/Fax)
1:344/79 (FidoNet)
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From: PETER SAMULEVICH Number: 2749
To: ALL Date: 09/08/93 3:02a
Subj: Hitachi Drivers for OS/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I hope someone can help me with a little problem I'm having with my
CD-ROM. I have a Hitachi 1700S (non-SCSI) CD-ROM drive and just
recently switched over to OS/2 2.1. For some reason I figured that the
DOS drivers would work in OS/2, but they do not. When I tried to pick
CD ROM drivers from the OS/2 setup, only the SCSI were found.
I've seen many drivers on various boards for non-SCSI CD-ROMS under
OS/2, but no Hitachi. When I called Hitachi, I kept getting the
run-around and 5 or 6 different phone numbers to call in order to get
"information." It seems that no one over at Hitachi could tell me
anything useful.
Does anyone have the drivers for the Hitachi 1700S? I would be more
than happy to call your board and d/l them, or FREQ them from you. As
it stands right now, I have to use a VDM to use the CD-ROM and there's
a lot of software that I really cannot use because of this. HELP!!!
Thanks,
Peter
... That tagline is TRUE -> <- That tagline is FALSE
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN Number: 2750
To: ALL Date: 09/07/93 11:10p
Subj: Technical Shareware on CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Here's a brief view of technical software on recent CD-ROMs.
EMS Professional Shareware - voice:301-924-3594 Fax:301-963-2708
Free brochure/catalog will tell you more.
EMS SMS3 Pier2 SS2 NOwl9 Win93 SV2
Access 175
Assembler 391 17 15
C/C++ 987 98 288 216
AutoCAD 820 51 45 30 34
Xbase 2983 53 83 82 502
Netware 801 58 48 42 172
ObjectVision 91
OS/2 302
Paradox 490
Sci/Eng 113 53 38 25 85
SmallBusiness 238
Spreadsheet 325 11 55 15 50 27
TrueType 752 218 112 749
TurboPascal 680 67 264 30 169
VBasic Windows 425 59 130
VBDOS/QB/PDS 224 130
Windows Utils 705 Mixed
EMS Professional Shareware, 7'93 (Oct. edition ships in three weeks)
SMS3 - So Much Shareware #3
SS2 - Shareware Studio #2
NOwl9 - NightOwl #9
Win93 - Windows 1993
SV2 - Software Vault #2
** Directories don't exactly match, but this should give you a feel for
differences.
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From: KEVIN MARTIN Number: 2751
To: ROBERT PROHL Date: 09/08/93 7:34a
Subj: MSCDEX Woes Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On Sep 06 10:16, Robert Prohl of 1:124/5125 wrote:
RP> Recently I installed another hard drive for my BBS and configured it
RP> as the Slave drive, designation D. Since there is a specific variable
RP> for teh CD rom extension in the Config and Autoexec files, I figured
RP> I could just change this to reconfigure the CD as E....
RP> However, I keep getting "illegal parameter" or some such nonsense
RP> when autoexec encounters that line.. what the hey? Can it be done?
Robert,
It is a lot easier to troubleshoot problems in the autoexec when we can
browse it. You don't have to add anything to the mscdex line if you don't
want. It will set itself to the next available drive letter.
Kevin
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From: MARTIN ROODENBURG Number: 2752
To: STEVE GOYER Date: 09/09/93 8:15p
Subj: Sb-16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Steve,
> So, if I have a SoundBlaster-16 (which I will soon have) I can
> just hook the CD
> ROM into the card, right?
Depends on the type of CDROM you want to use.
Bye,
Martin.
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From: MARTIN ROODENBURG Number: 2753
To: DAVID CHILDRESS Date: 09/09/93 8:24p
Subj: CD-ROM questions Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello David,
> 1). What is the difference between multi-session and singlesession?
Single-session: The drive can only (fully) read CDROM's that have
only one 'index', e.g. cd's that are written in 'one time'.
Multi-session: The drive can work with multiple 'indexes', that
are used for cd's where data is added to.
When the data is added, there is also an 'index' added, because
the already existing 'index(es)' can't be changed.
An example of an multi-session CDROM is a photo-CD where the pictures
are not put on all at once, but in several 'sessions'.
> 2). Is there any problem hooking up a SCSI compatable CD-ROM
> system to a IDE type computer?
That fully depends on de SCSI-controller you want to use, and I
don't have any experience with SCSI (it's a shame).
> 3). Does anyone have a good recommendation on a CD-ROM
> system\bundle?
Just keep reading this echo...
Discussions and recommendations enough.
> 4). What should be considered the minimum access times to look
> for?
350mS is about de slowest access time you'd want to look for.
(slower drivers then 350mS are hard to find anyway).
> 5). Anything else you care to mention that would be helpful?
When you want to play lots of big adventures and view smooth graphics,
consider some of the double-speed drives (altough they aren't quite
cheap).
Bye,
Martin.
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From: MARTIN ROODENBURG Number: 2754
To: SCOTT CONDER Date: 09/11/93 12:00a
Subj: Mitsumi CD ROM Drive; Sound Board Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Scoot,
> 1) Can I access audio CD's with only the interface card that
> comes with the drive?
With the use of some player-program (comes with the drive): Yes
> 2) Is the supplied interface card all I need to access such
> ROM's as encyclopedias, etc., or will I need a sound card? In
> particular, will I have to have a sound board to access sound
> files and graphics in an encyclopedia?
You can play the sound from the CD directly, but to play for
example WAV-files, you wil need a sound card after all.
> 3) If I get a sound card, and I want 16-bit audio with editing
> capability, what is the way to go?
There are A LOT of ways to go...
There a so many card, with so many specifications ...
> 4) If I get a sound card with a SCSI port built in, will the
> SCSI port work with the Mitsumi drive and allow me to get rid of
> the drive's dedicated IF?
Mitsumi isn't equipped with SCSI, so the answer is NO.
To save a slot, you could buy a soundcard with an Mitsumi-compatible
CD-interface (My Sound Galaxy NX Pro 16 work nice with my Mitsumi
drive).
> This is a somewhat confusing area for a novice. I'd appreciate
> any input. Thanks.
You're welcome.
Bye,
Martin.
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From: MARTIN ROODENBURG Number: 2755
To: DANIEL PRINCE Date: 09/11/93 12:00a
Subj: 16-bit sound cards Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Daniel,
> My brother has found that some of his games (especially Sherlock
> Holmes II) don't sound very good on his 8-bit Sound Blaster. He
> was wondering if switching to a 16-bit card would make these
> games sound better even if they aren't written specifically for a
> 16-bit card. Would a 16-bit sound card make games written for an
> 8-bit card sound better?
Besides perhaps the quality of the built-in amplifiers, theoretically
there shouldn't be any difference, as long as the software doesn't
even asks what sound-card is used.
> Does anyone have any opinions on which 16-bit sound card will
> become the standard? The Pro Audio Spectrum 16 was the first 16-
> bit sound card but the Sound Blaster 16 has the advantage of the
> 8-bit SB being the previous standard.
So has the Pro Audio Spectrum (SB 2.0 compatible, I'm told by very
reliable sources).
> Does anyone know exactly what the difference is between the Sound
> Blaster 16 and the ASP version? What is the difference between
> the Pro Audio Spectrum and Studio?
Wel, in the Sound Blaster 16 there seems to be an empty socket, where
the ASP-chip belongs. I don't know what the ASP-chip exactly does.
Some PAS-users probably can answer the other question.
> He found a review of the Pro Audio Spectrum 16 that said that to
> make it Sound Blaster compatible you have to run a driver
> program. Does anyone know how big this driver is and if it
> can be loaded high? Thank you in advance for all replies.
I'm not for sure, but I thought the driver doesn't need to stay
resident. But, some PAS-users might be better informed at this
point too.
Bye,
Martin.
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From: MARTIN ROODENBURG Number: 2756
To: ROBERT PROHL Date: 09/11/93 12:00a
Subj: MSCDEX Woes Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Robert,
> Recently I installed another hard drive for my BBS and configured it as
> the Slave drive, designation D. Since there is a specific variable for
> teh CD rom extension in the Config and Autoexec files, I figured I could
> just change this to reconfigure the CD as E....
You shouldn't need to change a thing.
(Just make sure your Lastdrive=?? is at least E..)
> However, I keep getting "illegal parameter" or some such nonsense when
> autoexec encounters that line.. what the hey? Can it be done?
We'll need more info to figure out that error.
Bye,
Martin.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 2757
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 09/07/93 9:43a
Subj: ECHO CHANGES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BJ>I think your ideas for both this and the "for sale" echo are right
BJ>on target, Bob. I support you and Tim agreeing to make this switch on
BJ>Oct. 1.
Thanks for your support.
BOB
:-)
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From: BOB HALL Number: 2758
To: DAVE TERRELL Date: 09/07/93 9:43a
Subj: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DT>Hello Bob...couldn't agree with you more. Expanding to another form of CDRO
DT>echo can only help those of us that don't understand all there is about it.
DT>know the other echo would be for advertising, but then it would free this on
DT>of the multitude of advertising that is done on it! I am not complaining ab
DT>the advertising as it is a very useful tool for competition and helps us all
DT>find the best seller with the best price. This echo could also include any
DT>problems or fixes and/or opinions on software too! We all like to hear abou
DT>games and programs before we buy them. That's business. Great idea and tha
DT>to you I'm sure things will only get better.....DAVE
Thanks for your support
BOB
:-)
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From: BOB HALL Number: 2759
To: DICK HUDDLESTON Date: 09/07/93 9:56a
Subj: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DH>However, I AM concerned about stuffing Multimedia into this echo. I
Well, I think there would be room. Dunno, have been wrong before, and
have the possiblity of being wrong again.
But, I'd like to try it and see.....
BOB
:-)
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From: BOB HALL Number: 2760
To: MICHAEL MULCAHY Date: 09/07/93 10:42a
Subj: ANATOMIST¬ Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MM>I am looking for a MAC compatable CDROM entitled "Anatomist¬" by Folkstone
MM>Design Inc.. Request pricing and shipping info...tks..m2
MM>--- MacWoof 1.5.3
MM> * Origin: Fairfax, VA/michael.mulcahy@his.com (1:109/70.986@fidonet)
HEY! Don't do this again! One message is/was plenty!
Bob Hall
Moderator
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From: BOB HALL Number: 2761
To: MICHAEL OUJESKY Date: 09/07/93 10:42a
Subj: CDROM ECHO FALLS OFF BACK Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MO>According to a recent post by Mike Fuchs, this echo (CDROM) has fallen of th
MO>echolist and will be removed from the backbone.
Check again.
Bob Hall
Moderator.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 2762
To: GORD DAVIS Date: 09/07/93 10:43a
Subj: CDROM ECHO FALLS OFF BACK Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GD> That's a drag, I just linked to this echo...any reason for the removal?
The echo is not being dropped.
Bob Hall
Moderator
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From: MIKE MORGAN Number: 2763
To: BORIS OSACDIW Date: 09/08/93 6:32a
Subj: CD order Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Boris, well it has been over a month now and I still haven't got the CD's
I sent you a money order for. Have you got any news for me it has been a over
a week since my last long distance phone call to you.
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From: DAVID HUTTON Number: 2764
To: ALL Date: 09/05/93 11:48p
Subj: BSR CD-ROM wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for a couple of the BSR CD drives that have SONY
CDU-6201-10 on the bottom. They were sold by DAK about a year or so
ago. You can reach me here or at my BBS 307-637-5930. Thanks
David
* SLMR 2.1a * All power corrupts, but we NEED electricity.
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From: PAUL LAWRENCE Number: 2765
To: ALL Date: 09/07/93 9:18p
Subj: LOOKING FOR USED CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
HELLO ANYONE THAT HAS A SHAREWARE CD THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO GET RID OF JUST
WRITE ME OR CALL ME AT SPLINTERS! MULTI-BBS AT 813-458-5399 AND LEAVE ME A
MESSAGE AND I WILL GET BACK TO YOU THANX .
PAUL....
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From: GIL MACHIN Number: 2766
To: SCOTT CONDER Date: 09/08/93 5:13p
Subj: Mitsumi CD ROM Drive; So Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Think Hard Now! Which One is Shinola?
SC>I'm thinking of buying one of the inexpensive Mitsumi CD
SC>ROM drives I've seen advertised and, despite having read
SC>several articles, I'm confused as to what a person needs in
SC>the way of interface hardware to use such a drive. If
SC>anyone knows about this stuff, leave me a message about the
SC>following questions:
Scott:
I have a Mitsumi LU 005S (latest I think?) I will try to answer some of
your questions. New to this myself(3Mo.)
#1 Yes you can. The drive has a 1/8 inch stereo jack on the front panel
along with a volume control. You can listen with headphones. On the
interface card there are two RCA jacks, Right/Left channel line out. These
maybe hooked up to a stereo amp. or using a RCA to 1/8 inch mini phone
plug to go into a sound card.
#2. I think you need a sound card to hear sounds from a MPC compliant
disk. If you just want to read text, or look at graphics/photo a sound
card is not required. On games I think a sound card is required to get
full enjoyment from games, both on CD-ROM and floppy. A sound card will
add a lot.
#3 I will pass on this one. I have a SBPro 8 bit. I do not do any editing.
This card meets my modest needs for sound.
#4 The Mitsumi uses a non SCSI proprietary IF. There are a few cards that
will control the Mitsumi directly. I do not remember what ones. I think
a sound Galaxy or something like that does control the Mitsumi. I know
that somebody will answer you.
A last thought. I bought my Mitsumi because bat the time it was the the
only drive that was MPC complaint for under US$200. There is a much better
drive available For around US$250. This drive is a Panasonic(sp) #562B-563
that will transfer data twice as fast as the Mitsumi 150k/s to the 562B's
300k/sec The Panasonic maybe a much better drive for a few $ more.
Gil Machin.
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From: GARY HOFFERMAN Number: 2767
To: ALL Date: 09/07/93 7:55a
Subj: Cd rom dealers wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello All,
We are looking for resellers and system builders who would be interested in
marketing and/or bundling commercial, shareware, and adult CDROM software
titles. We offer a complete list of popular titles along with competitive
pricing.
If you would be interested, please contact me at Consolidated CDROM
215-275-3657 voice or 215-276-3854 fax (Principals Only).
Thanks,
Gary
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2768
To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 09/08/93 1:12a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 9 SPECIALS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DC> MS> Do you have anything newer? <g d & r>
DC>Phoenix 4.0 and lots more <g>.
Well, I have Phoenix 4.0's in stock and they're showing lots of '91 and '92
files. Nice CD, but not very new if you ask me, at least in comparison to
Night Owl 9 which is entirely 1993. So I'll ask you again: At the time
when I placed my Night Owl ad (about 2 weeks ago) did you have anything
newer?? Granted, you may have some newer stuff now, as some of the new
titles start to trickle in, but I'd like to know what "newer" titles you
had in mind when you dismissed Night Owl 9 as being somewhat "dated".
Again Doug, the date here is important: As of Aug. 23rd (roughly), what
shareware CD's were on the market that offered newer files than Night Owl
9? I'm not saying there weren't any, just curious which titles you were
referring to.
Later,
.\\ike
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* Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101)
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2769
To: ALL Date: 09/08/93 1:12a
Subj: CD-ROM LIQUIDATION! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
| Starvector Sales Bulletin #4: CD-ROM LIQUIDATION! |
Q & A 4.0...........$34 Powerpak Gold 3.0...$15 House of Games......$20
Compton's Interact..$95 US Wars: Korea......$29 US Wars: Des. Storm.$29
Original S/W 1993...$10 Phoenix 3.0.........$12 Jedi Collection.....$39
Lion's Share........$20 Clipart Galore......$25 Reel Clips..........$35
Windoware...........$10 Fantazia Fonts/Snds.$22 Ham Radio 3.0.......$10
Return to the Moon..$26 Find-It Webster.....$38 Great Wonders.......$32
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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* Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101)
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From: RJ KULMAN Number: 2770
To: GIAN BISATZ Date: 09/06/93 2:00p
Subj: CD-Catalogs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GB>switzerland, I would appreciate to get some FREE catalogs & pricelists
GB>of what you have in stock.
GB>
GB>My address:
GB>
GB>Gian A. Bisatz
GB>Haedilochstrasse 47
GB>CH-8867 Niederurnen
GB>Switzerland
GB>
GB>Thanx in advance
what would you like, hardware/software/both ??
any particular brand anmes of Hdwe ??
Toshiba/mitsumi are available
* KingQWK 1.05 * "640K ought to be enough for anybody." - Bill Gate
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* Origin: STARGATE BBS. 1:278/714 NY 718-519-8042 (1:278/714.0)
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From: DANIEL BAUER Number: 2771
To: ALL Date: 09/06/93 1:44p
Subj: Problem with PHILIPS CM205 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have a problem with that CD-ROM-drive: If I insert a musik-CD it plays it
perfectly. But if I insert a CD-ROM it does not accept it. The LED lights
yellow and after five or six seconds it changes to red. I have used two CD-ROMs
which are full in order. I used a free IRQ for it, so nothing can be wrong. Is
it ruined?
I hope you can understand my horrible english!
Hope for help.
Bye
Daniel
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From: NICK FUNK Number: 2772
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 09/08/93 6:27a
Subj: Precision Mapping CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a msg on <Sep 06 21:54>, Jim Lambert of 1:18/10 writes:
JL>
JL> Precision Mapping - A complete mapping program that includes
JL> street-level maps of the entire continental United States on two
JL> CD-Rom discs. The end-user can view, edit, print, and query
JL> map data at any scale from the entire U.S. down to a city
JL> block. Look up addresses, measure distances, plan out travel
JL> routes, print out laser quality maps, clip raster images for
JL> import to other packages, create your own customized maps of
JL> virtually any type or scale...and much more! This is version
JL> 1.5 with improved online help. This set also includes the
JL> American Business Phonebook CD-Rom. Price
JL> $85.00
Jim can Precision Mapping be exported into a cad program such as
Generic Cadd or AutoCadd? I am looking for a mapping database that
includes the rural (boonies) sections of southern Louisiana.
By chance does the maps include additional information such as street
names, rivers, railroads and such?
Is this database setup so it can be expanded?
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* Origin: LaPlace, LA Point (1:396/61.4)
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From: PAUL OUTERSON Number: 2773
To: ALL Date: 09/04/93 11:27a
Subj: DataCore CD's Online Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
╔══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╗
║ CALL DATACORE TODAY!!! ║
║ ║
║ New CD-ROM support has arrived! Now, DataCore has one of the ║
║ largest collections of Shareware and Adult CD-ROMs in the ║
║ greater Worcester Area. Over 650+ megs of 1992-93 vintage ║
║ shareware are now online via the NightOwl V. 9.0 CD-ROM. ║
║ ║
║ We also offer 700+ megs of Adult GIFs, TGAs, and other graphic ║
║ files including animations. EVERY CALLER is entitled to ║
║ CD-ROM access (Adult CD access, 18yrs or older please)! So, ║
║ if you're looking for a GREAT file collection and a GREAT ║
║ BBS, call DataCore today at 508-832-0935!!! See you there! ║
║ ║
╚══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╝
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 2774
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 09/05/93 2:40p
Subj: Police Quest 4 (CD-ROM) Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I know what you mean man, I just got Space Quest IV and its pretty good, I
somehow cannot stop buying Sierra games, I can't wait to get Police Quest 4
either, and I was going to buy King's Quest 6 CD, but I got the regular version
and beat that game so there is absolutely no reason why I should spend money on
it now, well anyway write back about some other games, C-ya and TTYL.
Ashwin
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* Origin: Computer Castle Multi-Line, (603)382-3471 (1:324/127)
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 2775
To: HOA HO Date: 09/05/93 2:42p
Subj: Re: Norton Speedcache Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Well thanx Hoa, but I don't think I wanna spend any money on caches anyway I
think I will realx with my Mitsumi with 350 ms and 150kb/sec transfer rate and
just got with that, and relax and once I have saved enough money I will go and
buy a faster better CD-ROM but for now I am happy, C-ya and write back. TTYL.
Ashwin
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* Origin: Computer Castle Multi-Line, (603)382-3471 (1:324/127)
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From: JANUSZ SUROWKA Number: 2776
To: LOUIS GHINIS Date: 09/04/93 3:08p
Subj: 386DX-40 ->486 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey Lou...I read your message, and you said you want to upgrade to a 486...
If you want to upgrade to a 486 make sure its not a 486DX-25, SX-25, DX-33,
SX-33. If you upgrade to a 486-25, you will see no difference whatsoever. if
you goto a DX, SX-33 you will see little difference. But a DX2-66 or DX-50(Dont
go fer a DX2-50) will will see noticeable difference..
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* Origin: Phone Henge [203-826-1153 HST/V32b] New Britain,CT (1:142/212)
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From: VIC ALMEIDA Number: 2777
To: NICK FUNK Date: 09/05/93 8:50p
Subj: Panasonic 562 & Pro Stud Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Dude' did this interface card come with the panasonic CD-ROM Drive ?
if so do you have the number that i can call to get a hold of panasonic?
Later...
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* Origin: ALIEN NATION, East Hartford, CT (203)290-8615 (1:142/320)
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From: ED TURNOCK Number: 2778
To: ALL Date: 09/08/93 5:20p
Subj: What is "MPC-compatible system"? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Got a new "Power up" catalog today and it has some very good deals on CDROMS,
However, and you knew there had to be one, some of them are flagged as needing
a "MPC-compatible system".
Does anyone know what this is? I called the power up 800 number and the guy
that answered didn't know either, although he promised to find out and said if
I would call tomorrow he would know
Ed
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From: HEATHER KRAUSE Number: 2779
To: RON YOUNG Date: 09/08/93 7:15p
Subj: Creative Labs # Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RY>Anyone have the phone number for creative labs bbs here in the US?
408-428-6660
- Heather
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From: ALLEN FOGLESON Number: 2780
To: ALL Date: 09/07/93 9:39p
Subj: Maximus/2 and CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Is there a "trick" to getting maximus/2 to recognize that I have a CD under
OS/2? OS/2 is finding my drive fine, but when I use siltp to compile the
fileareas it asks to make the CD-ROM directory!?! We have tried this on 2
seperate computers with both MAX/2 v. 2.0 and MAX/2 v. 2.01wb. One thing we did
find was that maximus 2.0 for DOS worked fine. Compiled the areas, and chugged
along fine. I should probably post this in the MUFFIN echo, but as yet we do
not receive it here in NET 920. (The vagaries of being in Panama with these
phone lines.) any help would be greatly appreciated. here are the stats on the
two computers we have tried it on.
1) Packard Bell 386/25. Sony CD-31A drive.
2) Home built 386/33. NEC SCSI with Adaptek Controller.
I have run simplex and had the CD δrking fine. And the NEC is δrking fine
in a DOS box with WILDCAT.
Al
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From: ALLEN FOGLESON Number: 2781
To: ALL Date: 09/08/93 12:54a
Subj: OS/2 CD ROM with Maximus. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking to add a cd to my bbs, I cuurently have a Sony CD-31A but I am
loosing it soon. The one thing I want to ensure is that I will be able to
access the CD from Maximus. (RE: previous posting on problems) What is the best
one that will work with Maximus/2? I have been looking at the mitsumi... 200 is
hard to beat, I would prefer SCSI, but right now that is a bit out of my price
range.
Al
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* Origin: Down South BBS, Panama City, Republic Of Panama! (4:920/20)
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2782
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/07/93 1:56p
Subj: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
>This echo, CDROM, would stay basically the information echo. All ads in any
>form would be diverted to the CDROMSALE Echo, moderated by Tim Helton.
Hmmm - sounds like you've been talking to Randy Van De Loo, or Bob Compere, or
...
8-)
>Adult titles would be discussed in that echo also, as most people are either
>selling them, or wanting to buy them, and Tim has no objections to the topics
>of adult related material.
Tony Davis had some interesting comments on the subject and related at the One
BBS Con....
>I personally would like to make the above changes within the next 30 days
Given inertia, may take more like 6 months....
8-)
* SLMR 2.1a * Save the whales - harpoon a Moderator! 8-)
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2783
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/07/93 1:58p
Subj: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
>Please feel free to give me your input.
That reminds me - you apparently need to update your EchoList entry....
* SLMR 2.1a * Save laboratory animals - use lawyers instead!
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 2784
To: PAT RICKERSON Date: 09/08/93 7:14a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PR> This CD has been going for as much as $450 so lets make a deal before it is
PR> gone.
PR>
PR> Pat
Busty babes going for $450.00 ?? I paid $25.00 for mine. ?? What gives ?
.....|<evin
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* Origin: The Softwares Zone (1:231/570)
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From: CHRIS BENN Number: 2785
To: SYSADMIN'S NIGHTMARE Date: 09/08/93 1:02a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM WRITER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
What is the difference between red and orange standards for CD-Rom, also
is there another standard for CDV's? If you try and write audio to the
Phillips, do you have to feed it into a computer (digitize?) or can it
be fed from an outside source (eg. tape)?
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* Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15)
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From: MIKE MUNNELLY Number: 2786
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/08/93 6:53p
Subj: Special Cd-Rom Prices Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NB> WE ACCEPT VISA, MC, AX & DISCOVER. CHECK OR M.O. (ADD 3% FOR
NB> CREDIT CARDS
NB> $4.00 S&H FOR ORDERS OF 1-5..$1.00 PER EACH ADDITIONAL DISC.
NB>
NB> SHORELINE CD-ROM PHONE: (310) 652-2858
NB> 1206 S. HOLT AVE. #1
NB> LOS ANGELES, CA 90032 FAX: (310) 652-2608
NB>
Hi, I would be interested in getting your catalog. Also, could you tell
me about shipping charges and other things to Canada?
My address is
Box 21, Site B
Verona, Ontario
Canada
K0H 2W0
Thanks.
Mike
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* OFFLINE 1.56
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* Origin: DarkStar Systems * Kingston, Ont. (1:249/1)
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From: SHAWN MAZZUTO Number: 2787
To: LON SEIDMAN Date: 09/08/93 5:49p
Subj: NEC CDR-84 Multi-Spin Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Lon!
02 Sep 93 16:24, Lon Seidman wrote to Shawn Mazzuto:
LS> Do you plan on running both drives on the same system? If you have a
LS> standard SCSI port, you can use just about any drive on the same card as
LS> long as it is a SCSI drive. The CD-ROM driver NEC provides should
LS> recognize both drives without a problem.
Even if it's a Pioneer for argument sake?
Shawn
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From: ROBERT NEE Number: 2788
To: WILLIAM STEVENSON Date: 09/07/93 5:48p
Subj: Kings Quest V & SB16ASP Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
WS> Hi
WS>
WS> I've just installed the SB 16 ASP, which works well (e.g. with 7th
WS> Guest).
WS>
WS> But when I install King's Quest 5 (bought December 1992) with
WS> sound blaster selected, I get a message 'can't initialize your music
WS> hardware'. However, it does run and produce music if I select
WS> Adlib.
WS>
WS> Is there a way to get KQ-V to drive the ASP?
WS>
WS> William
Call the sierra BBS. They have an updated driver for the sound blaster 16
and their newer games. The number is 209-683-4463
Robert F. Nee
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* Origin: HH Info-Net BBS, New Hartford, Ct (1:142/335)
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From: JEFF WEISS Number: 2789
To: ANTHONY PONTORIERO Date: 09/08/93 10:44a
Subj: Re: WRITE YOUR OWN CD! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Anthony Pontoriero to Jeff Weiss <=-
AP> How much for just a dupe of a cd I had made, The reason is
AP> because my machine gas broken!
We can cut the set-up charge in half if we can avoid dealing with tapes,
so that would be...
1/2 setup fee $25
one disc $100
----
$125
Please call to schedule a time.
Eternal Archive Solutions, Inc.
PO Box 4402
Waterbury, CT 06704-0402
(203) 759-0574
(203) 759-0553 fax
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* Origin: Gateway to Hell (1:141/1130)
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From: JEFF WEISS Number: 2790
To: RYAN MENDEL Date: 09/08/93 11:12a
Subj: Re: BBS CDs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Ryan Mendel to Anyone <=-
RM> How do you load a CD program for a BBS, a CD like Phoniex?
RM> Do you have to load all the files and type in descriptions
RM> manually, or is there something on the CDs that
RM> automatically loads it to the BBS, making directories and
RM> things like that?? PLEASE help me, I would like to get it
RM> running on my BBS as soon as possilbe, thanks!
Most CDs written with the SysOp in mind already have at least one type
of BBS support file included in each directory. The better BBS programs
also support creating a type of "shadow" directory on the HD which
includes the description file but points to the CD-ROM.
If you have a lot of software on your hard drive already setup for
downloading, you can simply make a backup of these directories on tape
and send it to us to CREATE YOUR OWN CUSTOM CD.
The price for the service is $50 setup, and $100 per disc created minus
a $25 per disc SysOp discount. That's $125 to make one disc, $200 to make
two discs (back-up copy or maybe something special you can offer your
users that sets your board apart from the rest.
Eternal Archive Solutions, Inc.
PO Box 4402
Waterbury, CT 06704-0402
(203) 759-0574
(203) 759-0553 fax
Call first to discuss tape formats, etc.
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From: LEE NOGA Number: 2791
To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Date: 09/08/93 6:26p
Subj: Re: Southern Beauties Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message to Lee Noga <09-06-93 09:57> Ismail Arslangiray wrote:
IA>> Seems like both of your disk have legal problems and there is an
IA>> apperent piss contest. I am sorry but you guys need to handle your
IA>> own problems. I was only helping to another echo participant.
It's not about 'Piss' dear friend, its about a creditability issue with you
marketing a selling point of a disc that is not true--Informing sysops that the
disc is BBS ready only makes you look silly when they return it to you when
they realize that the disc is prohibited on the BBS--So all I was trying to do
is save you some embarrassment, realizing that you might not have known-- All I
was doing was helping a distributor correct some misleading information--Next
time I will consider the source, and perhaps piss in your cornflakes too :) You
annoy me !
-=*>Lee<*=-
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* Origin: Queen Of Hearts BBS (904)789-6843 (1:3618/23)
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From: AL KOLLER Number: 2792
To: JIM CONOVER Date: 09/08/93 10:55p
Subj: Re: WD7000 SCSI Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Jim. I have a WD7000 with docs and software. Asking $125 for the works.
If you are interested you can leave a note here, call my board at
407-269-2169, or reach me voice at 407-267-4860 after 7 p.m. EDT.
Al Koller
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From: MICHAEL S. KELLEY Number: 2793
To: TAPANI TUOMINEN Date: 09/06/93 10:35p
Subj: Cover cd 'pc mag' Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TT>GP>Hmmm... I already called them; they promised to mail me a copy. I
>GP>guess I'll find out. Do you recall what kinds of fonts were included
>GP>I wonder if they are ones that I don't have already (Too Many Typefon
>GP>CD-ROM).
TT>Most probably you don't miss those fonts then. None of them looks
>anything spectacular to me. Some names of the TT-fonts: Calisto,
>Headline, Photina Ultra Bold etc. Letraset type 1 fonts included are not
>better either.
TT>GP>TT>fonts. All the PC-Magazine utilities included are ages old (newer
>GP>TT>versions do exist!) and for example there is version 93 (I think)
>GP>TT>McAfees Scan when the current version is 107! All the other stuff
TT>GP>Golly, version 93 isn't worth much today, that's for sure.
TT>The magazine itself had lots of nice articles (although a little bit too
>English to my taste) but giving this kind of crap as a "valuable free
>present" is simply ridiculous. But then, we should remember that such a
>thing as free lunch does not exist. "Over 170 Mb of free software, tons
>of utilities, free fonts and full working models" that's how the
>PC-Magazine in question describes the CD included. ROTFL
TT>GP>Does one _have_ to use the silly and obnoxious installation procedure
>GP>or can you just try the programs on the disc as they are?
TT>Some of them you can try, yes. But finding the stuff from that jungle of
>subdirectories is not an easy task.
TT>GP>They promised to send me one. But thanks for the offer anyhow! :-)
TT>Don't be disappointed when you see it. At least it will be useful as
>a nice colourful coaster.
> .
> .
> .
>GP>The simple way to make sure you don't get stuck with bad caddies is t
>GP>ONLY BUY A CADDYLESS DRIVE. No reason to have to keep buying those
>GP>stupid caddies forever!
>GP>
>GP> CADDIES.... JUST SAY NO!
TT>Campaigning against caddies again? ;-) This is a matter of taste of
>course but I think that CD:s with caddies are something indespensable.
>CD-disks are not so fault tolerant after all. I do need regularly 3-4
>CD:s and have to switch between them often while I am working. Caddies
>cut unnecessary extra hassle of this process and I can freely keep those
>CD:s among all the stuff on my slightly over-crowded desk without
>needing to worry about damaging the disks. Of course this arrangement
>requires that you have an own caddy for each CD or at least for most
>frequently used ones.
TT>Also in a CD-ROM drive with a tray sliding in and out there are
>necessarily some extra very delicate precision components forming a
>potential source of troubles when the drive gets older and worn whereas
>drives with caddies are built mostly in very basic and sturdy way and
The only disadvantage of caddies is that they cost quite a lot but
compared to the price of a CD-disk it is after all almost acceptable.
I don't know how much you pay for caddies, but I get mine for $4.50
apiece. The only way I'll ever go is with a caddy. Seems to me the
only drives you see that don't use a caddy are the real cheap ones.
They are usually slow and don't offer even basic dust protection. There
is one manufacturer out there who claims "Patented Dust Protection". Ha
Ha Ha !!!
That's like saying I have Patented Nose Picking!
___
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From: MARTIN RACETTE Number: 2794
To: GREG MCDONELL Date: 09/09/93 4:36a
Subj: Global Explorer Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GM> BTW, do you have a CD called "Global Explorer" .. I think it is
GM> a "zoom to street level" global map. If you know it, does it have
GM> decent quality photo-reproduction maps and panning, and is it
GM> truly global (I'm in Australia)?
GM>
GM> Best Regards, Greg
Hi Greg
I answer about Global Explorer, I can tell you that is "really" global
including DOWN UNDER. You have 100 city map that you can zoom up to
street scale (you can alomost see car go through), over 10000 point of
interest and other stoff, plus some information about countries such as
economy, politics, geography and some. It really worth the price
$130.00cnd.
Regards
Martin
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From: TRAVIS MOGNET Number: 2795
To: ALL Date: 09/08/93 3:26a
Subj: NightOwl 9 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
So, Who Where When and all that sorta stuff might I find NightOwl 9 ?
Travis Mognet
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From: MARK WALKER Number: 2796
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/08/93 3:57p
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
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In a message of <05 Sep 93 14:11:06>, Rowan Evans (3:711/413) writes:
Not to pick on you, but you seem to be in the middle of all this talk about
caddies VS no caddy drives, can we drop it, PLEASE??? They both have thier
good and bad points and obviously this discussion is not getting any closer to
changing anybodies mind about whether or not to caddy.
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From: RODOLFO VAZ Number: 2797
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/08/93 8:20a
Subj: Re: CD-ROMS-DISCOUNT PRICES! Refer: NONE
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NB> WE ACCEPT VISA, MC, AX & DISCOVER. CHECK OR M.O. (ADD 3% FOR
NB> CREDIT CARDS $4.00 S&H FOR ORDERS OF 1-5..$1.00 PER EACH
NB> ADDITIONAL DISC.
Hi Neil,
I'd like to get a catalog, O.K. ? My address is :
Rodolfo Vaz
CNB-7 Lote 01 apto 707
Brasilia - DF - Brazil
CEP : 72115-075
Thanks,
Rodolfo Vaz
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From: RODOLFO VAZ Number: 2798
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/08/93 8:23a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM PREORDERS Refer: NONE
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MS> STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892
MS> (VOICE) VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50
MS> ea pc over 5 -!-
Could you send me a catalog ?
Rodolfo Vaz
CNB-7 Lote 01 apto 707
Brasilia - DF - Brazil
72115-075
Thanks !
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From: PAUL ROLFE Number: 2799
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/06/93 3:49p
Subj: CD-ROMS-DISCOUNT PRICES! Refer: NONE
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NB> SHORELINE CD-ROM'S DISCOUT PRICES
NB> These are just a few examples of our low prices...We have over 300
NB> titles in stock.
NB> WING COMMANDER & ULTIMA VI $15.53
NB> WORLD ATLAS (MPC OR DOS) $15.53
NB> KODAK PHOTO CD $15.53
etc.
Can you send me a catalogue to:
Paul Rolfe
11 Warbrook Place
Mandurah Western Australia 6201
or if you want you can fax it to me on +61-9-535-5822 9:00am - 5:30pm
Australian Time, or even E-mail to me at 3:690/649
Regards
Paul
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From: DON PUGH Number: 2800
To: ALL AUSTRALIAN CDROMS Date: 09/05/93 8:29p
Subj: Refer: NONE
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CDROM SUPPORT BBS
Don Pugh
17 Irvine St
Peppermint Grove, WA 6011
Ph 09-384-9043
Data Modem 09-383-4925 (3 Lines)
We Offer Dealers Prices For Sales of 5 or More Disks
Mix as you like. Most disks in stock.
WALNUT CREEK SERIES (Available Now)
Gifs Galore $25.00
Simtel latest $25.00
Windows April, 1993 $22.00
HOBBES OS/2 $25.00
Amiga Aminet $25.00 (out of stock)
Libris Britannica Vol. II $65.00
C Programmers Users Group $40.00
Info Mac MacIntosh Disk $50.00
Linux Unix Disk $60.00
Older Simtel Disks $19.00
OTHER SPECIALS
Super Games for Windows $20.00
Super ClipArt Disk $20.00 (Lots of stock)
Night Owl 9 $45.00
Seventh Guest Game $75.00
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From: SIMON COGGINS Number: 2801
To: RON FINDLING Date: 09/05/93 7:26a
Subj: CD-ROM vs. disk versions Refer: NONE
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>>What I don't like about sierra is they charge the cd version the exact
>>same price as the disk version when their making more profit on the cd
>>version instead of the disk version...
> (details given)
> Presumably though if they ARE adding scenes to the
> CD version not in
> the disk version, that costs money for them to do, and
> they should
> be allowed to charge extra because of that. ...And
But then you must remember that they don't loose money on breaching the
copyright crap on the games.. (Not unless you have 650meg free on your HD..
Regards.
Simon
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2802
To: LAURIE BATT Date: 09/08/93 7:52p
Subj: CD authoring Refer: NONE
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Hi Wantok!
On 09-05-93 Laurie Batt wrote to Rowan Evans...
LB> RE> Costs are around $A1,800.00 for the glass master and then
LB> RE> $1.85 or so per CD-ROM in lots of 1,000 (they'll do
LB> RE> smaller lots at higher prices!)
LB> RE>
LB> RE> This works out to around $A20.00 per CD-ROM for 1,000
LB>
LB> Rowan
LB> I hope you are not the accountant for the bank you work for. <G>
Not me, I'm the Technology Tourist!
LB> According to my calculations 1000 X $1.85 = $1850
LB> 1800 + 1850 = $3650
LB> 3650 /1000 = $3.65 per disc
LB> Where did the $20 come from
Blame mental arithmetic! I divided 1,800 by 100 to get 18.00 instead
of by 1000 to get 1.80!
Lukim Yu!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2803
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/08/93 7:57p
Subj: Pro Audio Or Soundbl Refer: NONE
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Hi Brice!
On 09-03-93 Brice Fleckenstein wrote to Rowan Evans...
BF> > BF> Try it with a SCSI drive that is doublespin for a FAIR
BF> > BF> comparison.
BF>
BF> > The NEC CDR-55 *IS* a doublespin drive!
BF>
BF> The NEC 73/74 and 83/84 series are the doublespin drives. I do NOT
BF> recall the 55 as being doublespin.
You may not recall it, but the spex listed in the drive's manual states
Transfer Rate 300Kbps!
BF> > BTW, as I have said before, the NEC 55 and 74-1 performed to within
BF> > 5% whether they were attached to the PAS16 *OR* an Adaptec 1540B!
BF>
BF> Limitation of the drive - and quite frankly, I question those figures
BF> on the Panasonics anyway, as the DRIVE is only rated for HALF
BF> those numbers. I suspect they have a cache involved that is
BF> distorting the TRUE numbers....
Same size cache as the 74/84 series drives - 64Kb!
I know that the drive is only rated at 300Kbps, but after living with
several for a while, what they can, and do, do when attached to an
SB Pro/16/16 ASP has to be experienced to be believed.....
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2804
To: JOHNM OSBORNE Date: 09/08/93 8:16p
Subj: Pro Audio Studio 16XL Refer: NONE
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Hi John!
On 09-02-93 Johnm Osborne wrote to All...
JO> I understand that Media Vision are planning to release a
JO> sound card using "sampled sounds" rather than FM
JO> synthesised sounds.
This is wave table isn't it??
JO> My experience with midi equipment
JO> suggests this board will have far superior sound.
The ordinary PAS16 sounded pretty good to me!
JO> Does any one out htere know more about this new board?
JO> When will it be released?
JO> What will be the price relative to a standard PAS16?
JO> Will a PAS16 be upgradeable or will a new board be required?
I saw a post the other day that suggested it was an entirely *NEW* board...
JO> Will this new board make Yamaha based boards "old hat"?
Nope, just cheaper!
JO> Do Media Visions' competitors have a response?
Yep! Creative Lab's SB 16 has a daughter card, the Wave Blaster, that
adds Wave Table synthesis...... You've got to hock your kids to buy one
though!
Hope this helps!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2805
To: TERRY MENZIES Date: 09/08/93 8:24p
Subj: Cd size? Refer: NONE
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Hi Terry!
On 09-04-93 Terry Menzies wrote to ALL...
TM> I am looking to buy a cd rom drive. The one I am looking at uses a
TM> max of 680 mb disks, is this ok or should I go for something bigger?
This is all that the ISO9660 standard allows on a CD-ROM.... There are
some CD-ROMs out there with more, and its a matter of suck it and see
to see if they work in your CD-ROM drive!
BTW, it would help if you posted the make and model # of the CD-ROM drive!
TM> What is the average CD GAME size?
Most CDs seem to be a straight port of the floppies (with *EXCEPTIONS*)
and take between 5 to 25Mb.... Some of the newer CD-ROM only games like
The 7th Guest and Dune have extensive video clips, etc and take up 600
Mb or so!
TM> The unit is selling for A$399 and comes with sofware drivers for use
TM> with Windows and plays music CD's.
Does it come with a sound card?? If not, and you expect it to play
Audio CDs through a SoundBlaster 1.5 or 2.0, you'll be disappointed! The
older SB cards do not have an on-board mixer on the line-in jack and
you won't hear the music!
TM> The guy told me that it's access time is 350ms and is Kodak Photo CD
TM> compatible..(Whatever that is.)
Access time is how long the drive takes to get to the requested data...
If you ever experienced an old XT, with a 65ms access HDD and compared it
to a 386/486 with a 12ms HDD, you'll know the difference!
Photo CD compatibility means that you'll be able to read your photos off
a Photo CD and fddle with them!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2806
To: ALAN WHITEMORE Date: 09/08/93 8:28p
Subj: Panasonic 562B + SB mono Refer: NONE
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Hi Alan!
On 09-05-93 Alan Whitemore wrote to All...
AW> Is there any trick to setting up a Panasonic 562B CD-ROM with a Mono 8
AW> bit SB card?
No trick, its *NOT* possible!
The older SB cards do not have the on-board mixer of the SB Pro and
later cards to enable line-in to pass the music to the speakers!
Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings, but that's the way it goes....
Buy an SB Pro 2/16/16 ASP.... You'll be able to do what you want (music
out of the sound card speakers), save a slot and experience a slight
speed up in the CD-ROM!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2807
To: VICTOR ZDANOWICZ Date: 09/08/93 8:30p
Subj: SB16ASP+CD in Win Refer: NONE
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Hi Victor!
On 09-06-93 Victor Zdanowicz wrote to All...
VZ> Has anyone had problems with running the SB16-ASP in
VZ> windows?... I cannot get the sound... al I hear is the
VZ> begining of the tune and then silence....
VZ>
VZ> I have done everything posible!!...
You obviously haven't, as mine works perfectly under Windows!
Check your interrupt setting... I'm using IRQ10....
If you still have problems, post your settings here and I'll check
against what I have....
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2808
To: TAPANI TUOMINEN Date: 09/08/93 8:40p
Subj: Cover cd 'pc mag' Refer: NONE
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Hi Tapani!
On 09-03-93 Tapani Tuominen wrote to Gordon Peterson...
TT> Also in a CD-ROM drive with a tray sliding in and out there are
TT> necessarily some extra very delicate precision components forming a
TT> potential source of troubles when the drive gets older and worn
TT> whereas drives with caddies are built mostly in very basic and
TT> sturdy way and can take pretty rough handling without complaining.
Umm... You obviously don't have an NEC 74 or 84 series CD-ROM drive then!
These drives have a semi-motorised insertion and a motorised eject for
the caddy..... They would have similar componentry to a tray type
drive in this case!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2809
To: SIMON MACKAY Date: 09/08/93 8:47p
Subj: SB Pro SCSI Refer: NONE
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Hi Simon!
On 09-05-93 Simon Mackay wrote to All...
SM> *** CROSS-POST TO CD-ROM Echo ************
SM> RH>Oh great just what i don't want! One SB-Pro 100% clone with Aztec
SM> chip
SM> RH>the Sound Galaxy NX Pro. Sound Blaster, Sound Blaster Pro, Covox
SM> Speec
SM> RH>Disney Sound System, Adlib 100% compatible. Has CD-rom interface
SM> for A
SM> RH>Can ad chip to enable SCSI bus interface as well. $220 for it as
SM> new i
SM> RH>with manual and most of its warrenty. Ph (02) 744-2486 or netmail.
SM> Don
SM> RH>or need as have a PAS16 which i'm happy with.
SM> RH>---
SM> Where can you get the SCSI chip to convert an ordinary AT-BUS SBPro CD
SM> interface into a SCSI SB-Pro CD interface?
You'll probably find that this card has *TWO* cd-ROM interfaces - the
Panasonic AT bus and a SCSI host adapter (once the optional chip is
installed).... But only one can be active at a time!
I saw a Taiwanese sound card like this a month or so ago.... (8 bit
sound only, so it got the big kiss off!)....
SM> Is the SCSI conversion ASPI compatible? Will there be an adapter to
SM> suit external SCSI devices?
If its like most sound card SCSI host adapters, it has *NO* BIOS, operates
in polled mode only and will not be capable of booting a HDD.... Asking
for ASPI drivers is like asking a Toyota dealer if his car will take
a BMW engine transplant!
Cheers!
o
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From: STEPHEN RANSON Number: 2810
To: ALL AUSTRALIAN READERS Date: 09/08/93 12:34a
Subj: Cd-rom Special Offer Refer: NONE
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Special Offer for BBS users only! Join the Australian CD-ROM Club before
the end of September and you will receive a FREE CD-ROM with your first
order. A small annual investment of $25 entitles you to:
o Huge catalogue regularly delivered to your home. You can choose from
more than 300 titles, with descriptions of most titles to make the
choice easier. You will have Access to over 1000 titles.
o 10% discount on all your CD-ROM software purchases made through your
club.
o To stay up to date with what's occuring in CD-ROM through your
regular newsletter.
o Freecall (008) 811190 mail ordering for your convenience.
Call today to join! (008) 811190 or FAX (06)2914591, CITACT BBS
(06)2928288
Stephen Ranson
Australian CD-ROM Club
Voice (008)811190, Fax (06)2914591
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From: SUNNY LEUNG Number: 2811
To: JEFF WEISS Date: 09/07/93 1:49a
Subj: Write your own CD! Refer: NONE
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Hi Jeff,
You were saying ...
JW> Cost: $50 set up charge per original.
JW> $100 for each CD.
JW> For example, it is $150 for 1 CD, $250 for 2 CDs, $350 for 3 CDs, etc.
JW>
JW> That's less than $0.25 per megabyte!
JW>
JW> SysOps get a $25 per CD discount! 1 CD for only $125! 2 CDs for
JW> $200! Get multiple copies for additional security and save $$$.
JW>
JW> All prices are in US funds and include Priority delivery within the
JW> US. COD charges are extra.
JW>
JW> Call for Canadian and overseas delivery.
Would you mind giving me an extra bit of info?
Do these prices hold for Australia (apart from delivery costs)?
Regards, Sunny.
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From: MICHAEL COOPER Number: 2812
To: ALL Date: 09/08/93 8:40p
Subj: Cr562b Cd-rom Drive Refer: NONE
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For Australian Readers only.
Anyone know where I can get a Panasonic CR-562-B CD-ROM Drive (internal)
with AT buss card. I do NOT need a sound card, I already have one. Also
would be interested in a bundle with some CD's. Sydney area.
Thanks,
Mike, Sydney, OZ
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From: DAVID WINGER Number: 2813
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/08/93 11:21a
Subj: Misleading Answers Refer: NONE
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On 09-06-93 Rowan Evans wrote to David Winger...
RE> Hi David!
RE>
RE> On 09-04-93 David Winger wrote to Tony Stott...
RE>
RE> DW> TS> DW> SL> Can you produce your own CD's?
RE> DW> TS> DW>Yes, but you need a WORM drive for that.
RE> DW> TS>
RE> DW> TS> WRONG! A Writeable cdrom drive will ALSO enable you to
RE> produce
RE> DW> TS> your own one-off cdrom disks
RE> DW> A writable CD-ROM is a WORM!
RE> DW> ^^^--------Read ONLY Memory.
RE>
RE>
RE> Ummm, no..... WORM drives use a different media to CD-R (CD-ROM
RE> Recordable)
RE> drives.... WORM has, I believe, a magnetic component to what it does,
RE> as
RE> well as a different format to CD-R.
RE>
RE> Cheers!
RE>
RE> o
RE> /U\
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From: DAVID WINGER Number: 2814
To: ALAN WHITEMORE Date: 09/08/93 11:41a
Subj: Panasonic 562B + SB mono Refer: NONE
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On 09-05-93 Alan Whitemore wrote to All...
AW> Hello All!
AW>
AW> Is there any trick to setting up a Panasonic 562B CD-ROM with a Mono 8
AW> bit
AW> SB card?
AW>
AW> The CD-ROM drive is working fine, but I want to enable the sound
AW> through my
AW> old mono SB card (Ver 2). Do I connect the CD-ROM drive to it's
AW> controller
AW> card with the 4 wire cable, and then plug a connecter from the
AW> external red
AW> and white jacks on the controller card to the line-in on the SB card?
I have the same problem.
Let me know if you find a solution.
Thanks,
\ /
Dave oo
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From: GREG MCDONELL Number: 2815
To: TONY STOTT Date: 09/08/93 10:51a
Subj: Echo Rules Refer: NONE
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Whilst on a recent visit to Earth Tony Stott spake thusly to Bob Hall
TS> Bob, I have not heard of the cdromsale echo making it to Australia, so
TS> if you remove ads from this echo, the Australian contingent will be
TS> cut off from access to the many bargains found in the 10-line adverts.
TS> To other Zone 3 readers... any takers for getting the cdromsale echo
TS> brought in?
Tony, I'm also in Australia and I have used this echo extensively
for both info and purchases. If this echo is reduced in scope, I
would be keen to obtain CDROM SALE echo in Aust.
Cheers, Greg
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From: CHRIS WOOD Number: 2816
To: ALL Date: 09/08/93 11:49p
Subj: Adaptec and CDR-501 Refer: NONE
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This may sound odd but I just bought a Panasonic CDR-501 SCSI CDROM to attach
to my Adaptec 1540B card and it works great for me under OS/2 but I cannot
access it when I boot DOS.
I load this in config.sys: ASPI4DOS.SYS /D /L
When I try to load MSCDEX.EXE in my autoexec.bat, it looks for a device name
in the /D: parameter and cannot find one, obviously because ASPI4DOS does not
allow you to specify one.
What am I doing wrong? Do I need another driver for the Panasonic Drive after
ASPI4DOS? I can't get MSCDEX to load no matter what I do.
Help!
Cheers...
Chris - Team OS/2 - Internet: cwood@hpb.hwc.ca
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 2817
To: TERRY MENZIES Date: 09/08/93 8:04p
Subj: Re: my new cd-rom! help Refer: NONE
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LH> I've just recently installed a panisonic CD-Rom and
TM> I'm not sure how to
LH> get the most out of it...I thought that I'd be able
TM> to play musical CD's
LH> while working in Windows, etc...Of course this isn't
TM> the only reason I
LH> made this purchase but I'd thought it would be a fun feature.
LH> Can anyone give me some advice as to how to make the most of my new
LH> "toy"?
TM> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
TM> A very good question......
A rather broad question, as it were, but definitely a good one.
LR> Dump Windows and get OS/2.
TM> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
TM> A bloody stupid answer! It did not offer anything of worth.
Quite to the contrary, it offered the best advice that my almost 3
decades of experience in the computer industry would supply. Dumping Windows
is a great first step to getting the most out of ANY IBM compatible computer
system. As far as worth is concerned, I consider any advice worth a great deal
that allows a $2000 state of the art computer to stop performing like a $20
1978 vintage pong game and start performing like a $2000 computer.
TM> An answer to this would have been good for me and many others.
I gave two answers, and good ones, considering the time and space
allotted. Although the terms "toy" and "Windows" are virtually synonymous, any
computer system will make great gains in virtually every area by discarding
with the greatest possible haste the huge waste and lack of flexibility
inherent with every aspect of Windows. Having done that, one can then continue
on the journey to make the most out of one's computer by loading a genuine
Operating System that can actually make good use, substantially full use, of
one's hardware, rather than a two decade old kludge of a disk utility that is
too ignorant to make any more than minimal use of ANY hardware. OS/2, although
far from being a truly great OS, is nonetheless an acceptable OS, at a decent
price. Furthermore, it can and does make substantially full use of the system
hardware. For most users, one machine running OS/2 is worth a dozen or more
machines running DOS, no matter what silly (and horribly, unnecessarily
wasteful) interface one tacks on to the poor thing.
In short, the answer to her question remains: To make the most of her
CD-ROM, as well as the rest of her system, she is well advised to run OS/2 2.1
Les
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 2818
To: TERRY MENZIES Date: 09/08/93 8:25p
Subj: Re: Cd size? Refer: NONE
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TM> This is all new to me....
For everything and everyone, there is always a first time.
TM> I am looking to buy a cd rom drive. The one I am looking at uses a max
TM> of 680 mb disks, is this ok or should I go for something bigger?
There is nothing bigger. The disk size is fixed by the nature of the
media standard. The only way to get more data on a CD-ROM disk is to utilize a
disk compression routine. There are several different formats, but virtually
all CD-ROM drives are compatible with them all. Some can store a bit more than
others, but they all store substantially the same amount of data.
TM> What is the average CD GAME size?
I don't know. I don't play games on my computers, but I would think
the size would be pretty huge, or else a CD would not be the best distribution
medium. 'Surely I would not expect any CD-ROM to have less than 20 Megs on
board, but I'm sure that many game CD's contain several games. OTOH, Motion
Picture Video consumes HUGE amounts of data, and any game that relies heavily
on MPV is going to need LOTS of data, perhaps even hundreds of megs.
TM> The unit is selling for A$399 and comes with sofware drivers for use with
TM> Windows and plays music CD's.
My Aussie conversion is a bit rusty, but that sounds like a reasonable
price.
TM> The guy told me that it's access time is 350ms and is Kodak Photo CD
TM> compatible..(Whatever that is.)
It means that you can have Kodak put your favorite slides or prints on
the CD and view them with your computer. However, double check to see if it is
MULTI-SESSION photo CD compatible. 350ms access is not that great an access
time, but then access times in CD's are not generally a problem. Ask if the
unit is double-spin (ie 300KB/sec). Better yet, post the make and model, and I
am sure that someone on the echo can give you a good critique of the drive.
Les
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 2819
To: LAURIE BATT Date: 09/08/93 8:38p
Subj: Re: Misleading Answers Refer: NONE
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DW> THE SYSGEN FLOPTICAL
DW> A normal floppy drive just steps the heads across
DW> the disk in preset increments. At the same time
DW>
DW> It should also be noted that floptical drives can
DW> read standard 1.44 meg and 720k 3.5" floppy disks.
DW>
LB> You have described a floptical.
True.
LB> The Magneto Optical is a totally different thing and not
LB> in any way related to the floptical which is only
True.
LB> available in 20MB and 128MB flavours. The Magneto optical
False. Floptical drives are available ONLY as 21 Meg drives (which do
of course read and write standard 3.5" floppies). The 128 Meg drives ARE MO
drives.
LB> is in the 500MB+ range. The Media used is also totally
LB> different
Also false, sort of. The media is standard magnetic media just like
the floptical uses on ONE SIDE. The floptical has a pre-written optical
surface that is used strictly as a positioning surface.
Les
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 2820
To: DAVID CHILDRESS Date: 09/09/93 1:53a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM questions Refer: NONE
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DC> I have a few questions that I would like to ask about CD-ROM systems.
DC>
DC> 1). What is the difference between multi-session and single-session?
This refers to the new Photo-CD standard. I am not highly familiar
with the technical specifications of this standard, so I may be in error, but
it is my understanding that multi-session CD's are ones that are written at
several different times, allowing one to get a dozen good shots, have them
transferred to CD, get a few more good shots and have them transferred to the
same CD, etc, until the CD is full.
DC> 2). Is there any problem hooking up a SCSI compatible CD-ROM system
DC> to a IDE type computer?
There is no such thing as an IDE computer. Many hard drives (and some
tape units and other storage units) have an Integrated Drive Electronics
interface. There are normally not likely to be any unresolvable conflicts
between an IDE controller and a SCSI controller in the same machine. However,
in general I would recommend to go SCSI all the way, if you are going to have
even one SCSI component.
DC> 3). Does anyone have a good recommendation on a CD-ROM system\bundle?
In what price range?
DC> 4). What should be considered the minimum access times to look for?
Access times on CD-ROM drives are not usually really that important. A
much more important parameter is the transfer rate. If you can afford it, I
would definitely recommend 300KB/s or greater.
DC> 5). Anything else you care to mention that would be helpful? Your
DC> .02 matters. <G>
If you can afford it, get a little higher quality system, not the rock
bottom minimum that will meet your current needs.
Les
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 2821
To: COLIN BELL Date: 09/09/93 2:04a
Subj: Re: Drive speed Refer: NONE
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CB> I am considering putting a scsi cd rom drive online on my
CB> BBS. I don't 4really want to spend too much on
CB> the drive but I have to be sure that it
CB> will be able to keep up with people downloading. My modem is 14400 BPS &
That's bps, not BPS.
CB> the serial port is locked at 19200 bps.
19,200bps is dead slow. That amounts to a mere 1.875KB/s. The SLOWEST
CD-ROM drives can transfer at 150KB/s.
CB> I noticed that the NEC drives that
CB> the local store carries (the cheaper ones) have 500ms
CB> access speed. Is that
CB> fast enough to keep up with my modem.
I afraid the question is rather nonsensical. The access time has
absolutely nothing at all to do with the transfer rate.
CB> a multispin cdrom for my personal machine so don't really care if the BBS
CB> one can't do photo-cd's or whatever. What speed is the Pioneer DRM-600A ??
The 600A is fairly slow, and has a rather poor access time. I don't
recall the exact values. The 604X has a 300ms access time, and a 612KB/s
transfer rate.
CB> How does the Pioneer drive handle it if 2 people are online & they try &
CB> access files on different disks at the same time? 8) I presume it is 1
CB> mechanism with a carousel or is it 6 mechanisms & able to access each at
CB> the same time.
In that case, the pioneer has to swap disks in and out. This can take
as long as 5 seconds per swap, but the data from the two files is pulled out
into a cache. At 1920CPS, it will take *34 SECONDS* to empty a 64K buffer.
That is plenty of time to swap between disks and back before having to pick up
another block of data, which will take a few hundred ms.
Les
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From: ROY COCHRUN Number: 2822
To: JD BROWN Date: 09/08/93 9:26p
Subj: Re: Text encyclopedia Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
You> copyright and license info.
...
Well, since I don't have a BBS, it really doesn't matter to me
personally, and perhaps I should actually read the license on a CD-ROM,
but it seems to me...
(and I do know a little about the copyright law)...
If someone puts up a reference CD and only one user can access it at a
time, I don't believe that is copyright infringement. It is when you
get into multiusers it becomes a problem. It's analagous to allowing
your roommate or neighbor to borrow a book from you. Comments? --
regards, Roy Cochrun
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From: ROY COCHRUN Number: 2823
To: ROBERT PROHL Date: 09/08/93 9:30p
Subj: Re: Mscdex woes Refer: NONE
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Show us your CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT lines that relate. Normally
you don't have to tell the CD-ROM anything different. It picks up the
next logical drive (oh, but on my Mitsumi it did require I put in a
LASTDRIVE= line to include that drive). -- regards, Roy Cochrun
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From: JIM CUMMINGS Number: 2824
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/08/93 8:05p
Subj: Fed Micro CD-Rom Refer: NONE
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It will be good for you to get away from the daily grind. If you want more
info re cost etc, the people to contact are:
National Trade Productions, Inc
313 South Patrick Street
Alexandria, VA 22314-3567
I work at D.O.T. in D.C. and am not a salesman for them. It looked like a
great opportunity and I think CD-Roms are the greatest new thing for
computers. Most of these people buying from him did not read E-mail and were
not aware of the good prices offered. If you need and other help, let me
know.
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 2825
To: ROBERT HAWORTH Date: 09/05/93 10:44p
Subj: New Roland Compat Sound C Refer: NONE
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-> Its called the Concurrent. Powersource is the importer. Ph (02) 744-5
-> Sydney (03) 383-6509 Melbourne.
Oh, no wonder I didn't hear of it.... I'm in Newport, OR..... U.S.A.!
Up on the Northwestern side of the country....
Thanks for the info!
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 2826
To: DOUG DAGGER Date: 09/05/93 10:45p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM's Refer: NONE
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-> How good are the graphics on it?
-> I was lokking for very good graphics like the ones that from a few fe
-> look like pictures.
Could you maybe reply some of my message? I forgot what we were talking
about...
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 2827
To: BRIAN KING Date: 09/05/93 10:56p
Subj: Laura Bow II Refer: NONE
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-> I saw your message to Henry Paul saying that you had Laura Bow II. I
-> have this game but I am stuck on level two. I am in the museum. I h
-> talked to all the people and then they disappear. I have picked up t
-> on the table but other than that I can not do anything.
-> PLEASE HELP!!!
-> The game came with a sierra hint line number but when I ring them up
-> no clues left there.
-> Would be grateful for any help that you could give me.
Ahem, maybe I can help! <g> In level 2 talk to everybody AND come up
behind ANY group of people! You will eavesdrop on their conversation!
Also, don't call hint line, call BBS! They have hint database for all
games. Number is 1-209-683-4463. Mon.-Fri. 24hrs.
I called SEVERAL times to finally get to the end... Still haven't won it
yet... Believe me, it gets MUCH harder!
TTYL,
Henry
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 2828
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 09/07/93 6:26a
Subj: CD-ROM GAMES Refer: NONE
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-> Actually Henry, I just got my Mitsumi CD-ROM drive maybe a month ago
-> only have like 3 games for it, King's Quest 5, Battle Chess(the data
Hi Ashwin!,
I know I already replied to this message on another board but I wanted
to mention, if you get tired of any, LET ME KNOW! <g>
-BTW Check out Phantasmagoria from Sierra when it comes out! Is supposed
to blow the doors off T7G!
l8r,
Henry
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 2829
To: RACHEL REPSTAD Date: 09/07/93 6:32a
Subj: games Refer: NONE
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Hi Rachel!,
Do you have more than 1 computer? Mitsumi's are really cheap. Under $200
with a bunch of software even.
I replied to this message on another board, so I didn't quote anything.
I shall try YOUR board this weekend when the rates go cheap.
Looks like you get the ocean on the other side huh?
TTYL,
Henry
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 2830
To: JANUSZ SUROWKA Date: 09/07/93 6:46a
Subj: 7th guest Refer: NONE
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-> I gotta 386DX-40 /w a Paradise an i got 1%, i think the game has a bu
I got that message too on one of my programs.... I manually set it too
%100 and it seems to work okay....
All you have to do is edit the config file for the game...
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From: ALEJANDRO RODRIGUEZ HEREDERO Number: 2831
To: ALL Date: 09/07/93 3:42p
Subj: Compras. Refer: NONE
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Hola a todos.
¿Hay alguien que venda, de segunda mano, el Space Quest V o el Police Quest
III en CDROM?
Si alguien esta interesado, que deje un mensaje diciendo precio.
Saludos. Alex.
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From: DAVE REED Number: 2832
To: DON PRYOR Date: 09/08/93 5:37p
Subj: Re: n.o. 9 Refer: NONE
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In a message to Dave Reed <09-07-93 17:02> Don Pryor wrote:
DP> Now to find the least expensive place to send my money order.
DP> I would accept offers via netmail to my board at 1:291/6, in
DP> particular a directory of it's contents. Know where I could find same?
The file list is available from 1:344/79 as NOPV9.ZIP and I'll sell you one
for $15 + shipping, as long as you're not a liberal Clinton supporter. If you
support Clinton, the prices is $30, to cover all the damage him and his kind
are doing to our economy.
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From: KEVIN MARTIN Number: 2833
To: DANIEL BAUER Date: 09/09/93 7:32a
Subj: Problem with PHILIPS CM205 Refer: NONE
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On Sep 06 13:44, Daniel Bauer of 2:246/26.50 wrote:
DB> I have a problem with that CD-ROM-drive: If I insert a musik-CD it
DB> plays it perfectly. But if I insert a CD-ROM it does not accept it.
DB> The LED lights yellow and after five or six seconds it changes to
DB> red. I have used two CD-ROMs which are full in order. I used a free
DB> IRQ for it, so nothing can be wrong. Is it ruined?
If you have a /e switch in your config.sys line that starts up the drive,
remove it and try again.
Kevin
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From: PAUL SZUDZIK Number: 2834
To: DON BOSMAN Date: 09/08/93 6:29a
Subj: PHONE DIRECTORY CD'S FOR Refer: NONE
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Yes, the information on the Phone book CD is correct about me.
Congratulation, you found your first one! You pretty well convinced me to wait
a bit. Thanks for your input.
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From: DAVID HAMM Number: 2835
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/08/93 6:42p
Subj: WINDOWS NT Refer: NONE
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What's your price on Windows NT?
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From: ROBERTO REYES Number: 2836
To: CHRIS WOOD Date: 09/08/93 12:50p
Subj: Cd-Rom Disk Cache Refer: NONE
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CW:>Doug Schwantes wrote in a message to All:
CW:>DS> Does anyone out there know of a good disk cache for a
CW:>DS> CD-ROM?
CW:>Norton Speedcache 4.0+ will do the job nicely for you. Otherwise you could
CW:>always buy OS/2 2.1 GA, it has built in CDROM drive caching of course..<g>.
CW:>Cheers...
CW:>Chris - Team OS/2 - Internet: cwood@hpb.hwc.ca
The Mitsumi CD-ROM Works with OS/2 2.1
you don't need special drivers?
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From: ROBERTO REYES Number: 2837
To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN Date: 09/08/93 12:51p
Subj: Cd-Roms Refer: NONE
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MS:>Hi people!
MS:> We've got some great deals on some '93 CD-ROMs... these are
MS:>Overstock Liquidations at, near, or below cost while current
MS:>INSTOCK quanitities last! They are:
MS:> Cdn$ US$
MS:> ProPhone 1993 7-disc set 50 37
MS:> American Business Phonebook 25 19
MS:> Foxes 25 19
MS:> Busty Babes 25 19
MS:> Shareware Studio II 20 16
MS:> Night Owl 9 35 26
MS:> Erotic Encounters 35 26
MS:> Shareware Studio I Free with purchase of Night Owl 9
MS:> C ya soon!
MS:> .\\ichellea
MS:> 306-789-4654
I want the PROPHONE 1993 do you have a fax number to order one copy?
Do you accept credit card?
Send me a catalog of your products to
Roberto A. Reyes
14422 Industry Av. Suite 7-54
Laredo Tx 78041
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From: ROBERTO REYES Number: 2838
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/08/93 12:51p
Subj: Cd-Roms-Discount Prices! Refer: NONE
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NB:> SHORELINE CD-ROM'S DISCOUT PRICES
NB:> These are just a few examples of our low prices...We have over 300
NB:> titles in stock.
NB:> WING COMMANDER & ULTIMA VI $15.53
NB:> WORLD ATLAS (MPC OR DOS) $15.53
Please send me your catalog to
Roberto A. Reyes
14422 Industry Av. Suite 7-54
Laredo, Tx 78041
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2839
To: ALL Date: 09/08/93 11:58p
Subj: TOP 5 NEW CD TITLES Refer: NONE
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| Starvector Sales Bulletin #2: TOP 5 NEW CD TITLES |
>PHOENIX 4.0 * Finally - An update to 3! Very clean CD with fresh files.$28
PRECISION MAPPING 1.5 * Newest release! Detailed street-level map......$79
>SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD * Totally new shareware w/ no dupes to Vault 2!....$29
SHAREWARE EXPLORER * New shareware 4-pak w/ less than 1% dupes!........$54
SHAREWARE ONLINE #2 * Brand new w/ pure 1993 files! The NEWEST s/w CD!.$37
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: JOHN EBERT Number: 2840
To: ALL Date: 09/09/93 12:32a
Subj: CD Rom for sale... Refer: NONE
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I'm leaving the country in a little less than 2 weeks and NEED to let my CD
ROM go...I need the cash!
It's a Mitsumi CD that fully complies with all the MPC requirements, and has
served me well for about a year. I have 10 discs...and would be willing to
sell for $350...although I WILL bargain with someone in person. Someone,
please leave me some mail...this thing'll go to waste without me around to use
it, so I want to move it. I feel $350 is a fair deal, considering it comes
with an encycplodia, atlas, and a bunch of other good stuff.
John
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 2841
To: DAVID HUTTON Date: 09/09/93 7:53a
Subj: BSR CD-ROM wanted Refer: NONE
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Hello David!
05 Sep 93, David Hutton writes to All:
DH> I am looking for a couple of the BSR CD drives that have SONY
DH> CDU-6201-10 on the bottom. They were sold by DAK about a year or so
DH> ago. You can reach me here or at my BBS 307-637-5930. Thanks
DH> David
Know someone that has one he may want to sell how much are you wanting to pay?
Pat
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From: NICK FUNK Number: 2842
To: VIC ALMEIDA Date: 09/09/93 7:02a
Subj: Panasonic 562 & Pro Stud Refer: NONE
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In a msg on <Sep 05 20:50>, Vic Almeida of 1:142/320 writes:
VA> Dude' did this interface card come with the panasonic CD-ROM
VA> Drive ? if so do you have the number that i can call to get a
VA> hold of panasonic?
Vic I purchase the Panasonic 562B for $245 and the MediaVisions
ProStudio 16 for $205 from MPC Multimedia. The advertise in
Computer Shopper. I also purchase from MPC a 8 bit controller
card for the 562B for $20. The drive works beautifully and the
sound card is great. I am very happy with both devices.
MPS Multimedia Inc
342 West Portal Avenue
San Francisco, CA 94127
(415) 731-4677
MPS has a 1-800 line but I can find the number. Check out there ad
in Computer Shopper.
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From: KEN UHRICK Number: 2843
To: SAM JONES Date: 09/08/93 12:08p
Subj: Re: Photo CD Software Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Sam Jones to Ken Uhrick <=-
KU> AS far as I KNOW THE KODAK PHOTO cd IS WINDOWS prg
SJ> I finally found out that the Kodak program is available in DOS or
SJ> Windows and the local Babbage's only carries the DOS (I don't know why)
SJ> version. Someone also suggested Tempra Access which is DOS but supports
SJ> video cards with VESA.
SJ> Sam
SJ> -!- Maximus 2.01wb
SJ> ! Origin: The Node III BBS New Orleans LA (504) 347-4320 (1:396/27)
THINKS FOR THE INFO I just odered it i dont know if the one im geting is wondo
or dos
/s
... Adult GIF files are meant for testing monitors.
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From: RJ KULMAN Number: 2844
To: ALL Date: 09/07/93 6:49p
Subj: Toshiba 3101 cdrom-int Refer: NONE
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Just upgradec to an external CD-ROM, so I have this extra one
that I would like to sell.
IBM / Toshiba Internal CD-ROM #3101 1/2Ht SCSI $199
150K Transfer Rate 250ms
These were recently replaced by the current double spin 3401's
RJ Kulman 718 968 9167
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 2845
To: TAPANI TUOMINEN Date: 09/05/93 5:36p
Subj: Cover cd 'pc mag' Refer: NONE
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TT>Most probably you don't miss those fonts then. None of them looks
TT>anything spectacular to me. Some names of the TT-fonts: Calisto,
TT>Headline, Photina Ultra Bold etc. Letraset type 1 fonts included are not
TT>better either.
Hmmmm....
TT>The magazine itself had lots of nice articles (although a little bit too
TT>English to my taste) but giving this kind of crap as a "valuable free
TT>present" is simply ridiculous. But then, we should remember that such a
TT>thing as free lunch does not exist. "Over 170 Mb of free software, tons
TT>of utilities, free fonts and full working models" that's how the
TT>PC-Magazine in question describes the CD included. ROTFL
Well, I've probably paid more for CDs that turned out to be LESS
interesting (in fact, even without seeing this one, I'm SURE I have).
At least it wasn't expensive.
TT>Some of them you can try, yes. But finding the stuff from that jungle of
TT>subdirectories is not an easy task.
When you're used to consulting like I am, you get pretty good at being
able to find your way around clients' weird disk organizations. :-)
TT>GP>The simple way to make sure you don't get stuck with bad caddies is t
TT>GP>ONLY BUY A CADDYLESS DRIVE. No reason to have to keep buying those
TT>GP>stupid caddies forever!
TT>GP>
TT>GP> CADDIES.... JUST SAY NO!
TT>Campaigning against caddies again? ;-)
YOU BET! This is _one_ case where I think that consumer pressure can
actually win one!
TT>CD-disks are not so fault tolerant after all. I do need regularly 3-4
TT>CD:s and have to switch between them often while I am working. Caddies
TT>cut unnecessary extra hassle of this process and I can freely keep those
TT>CD:s among all the stuff on my slightly over-crowded desk without
TT>needing to worry about damaging the disks. Of course this arrangement
TT>requires that you have an own caddy for each CD or at least for most
TT>frequently used ones.
Right. And that's what I think is obnoxious. How long would people put
up with audio CDs if they had to fiddle around with those stupid caddies
for all their discs? Or to keep moving them in and out of caddies? In
a stack of discs, I think it's much easier to rapidly find the disc you
want (by the color of the spine of the jewelbox, for example) than to
pull out the right disc that's been preloaded into one of a pile of
identical-looking caddies.
TT>Also in a CD-ROM drive with a tray sliding in and out there are
TT>necessarily some extra very delicate precision components forming a
TT>potential source of troubles when the drive gets older and worn whereas
TT>drives with caddies are built mostly in very basic and sturdy way and
TT>can take pretty rough handling without complaining.
Most CD-ROMs probably take a lot less disc changing than audio CD
drives do, and experience during something like ten years demonstrates
that this simply is NOT a problem.
TT>The only
TT>disadvantage of caddies is that they cost quite a lot but compared to
TT>the price of a CD-disk it is after all almost acceptable.
If you're buying $100+ discs, maybe. Not when you're buying discs for
$5-25 (i.e. the price of audio CDs). And not when you're developing a
largeish collection of CD-ROMs (as we ALL will, eventually).
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From: LAURENT GENIER Number: 2846
To: ALL Date: 09/07/93 11:22p
Subj: Cd rom panasonic Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PANASONIC
CD-ROM PANASONIC Modle 562B
Temps d'accs moyen: 320 ms
Taux de transfert: 300 Ko / sec
Capacit: 682 Mo
Multi-Cessions
Double vitesses
Livr avec carte controlleur
Peut galement se brancher directement sur la Sound-Blaster
Vendu avec TEMPRA ACCES (permet de lire les CD-Photo KODAK)
et SEVEN GUEST (superbe jeu de Virgin Games)
Si vous appellez de
la part d'ELECTRON BBS ... T.T.C.
.
DirecTronic, 8 rue Euryale Dehanin 75019 PARIS, Tel: 42.08.09.09
Electron BBS : 69 39 46 30
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 2847
To: ALL Date: 09/05/93 9:46p
Subj: Space Quest 4 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey all, I just bought Space Quest 4 for CD and well if anyone out there
has played the CD or regular version since they should be the same,
please write to me and I will tell you where I need some help. C-ya and
TTYL.
Ashwin
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From: JEREMY ROLLINGS Number: 2848
To: GARY KORPAN Date: 09/06/93 4:34p
Subj: Space CDROMs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GK>Folks, could anyone describe the best space related cdrom's they've se
GK> (Not Our Solar System which is pathetic). Thanks in advance.
I own Space Adventure, published by Knowledge Adventure, Inc,
It s much better than disks full of nothing but NASA pictures.
I first bought a disk called very much like *Our Solar System*
and was very disappointed. I exchanged it for Space Adventure.
In addition to having offering lots of information in the form
of text, pictures, and animations / simulations, Space Adventure
uses a wonderful interface. Their order number is 1-800-542-4240.
Call and I'm sure they'll send you some info.
Jeremy in Chicago.
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From: JERRY SMITH Number: 2849
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/09/93 5:23p
Subj: Image Compression Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
Hi Bob-- I originally sent the following message a few weeks ago,
but addressed it to Don Kulha and you collectively. If you
responded, it didn't make it out here. If you don't have
personal knowledge of this technology, can you point me in the
right direction? If Byte is reviewing the subject, it doesn't
seem like it could be all that esoteric!
"Last month's Byte magazine had a review of 'Fractal Image
Compression' by Barnsley and Hurd (ISBN 1-5681-000-8, $49.95).
The suggestion was that this technology was at the 'cutting edge'
of image compression. Have you seen this book and do you know
anything about the technology, or whether it has been used in
producing any current CD's? I'm especially curious to know what
sort of compression is attained by this method.
Thanks for any input you might be able to provide."
Jerry Smith 4341 U St., Sacramento, CA 95817 (916)455-3275
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 2850
To: GARY KORPAN Date: 09/09/93 8:58a
Subj: Re: Vancouver? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Ismail, are you coming up the computer swap meet/sales next Saturday in
> Vancouver (actually in Richmond)? Am curious to see all your cdroms.
Hi Gary,
We will be there!..Look at booth #42. TTYL
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From: DEBBIE MARANTZ Number: 2851
To: ALL Date: 09/09/93 4:27a
Subj: 562B/563 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
What I need is a little information on the difference between the Panasonic
562B vrs the 563, as there is a dealer in my area selling the 562B for $360
which for us KANUCS is a very good price.
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From: THOMAS WAHL Number: 2852
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/05/93 10:51p
Subj: Sale Cd-Rom'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NB> SHORELINE CD-ROM'S DISCOUT PRICES
NB>
NB> These are just a few examples of our low prices...We have over 30
NB> titles in stock.
NB>
NB> WING COMMANDER & ULTIMA VI $15.53
NB> WORLD ATLAS (MPC OR DOS) $15.53
NB> KODAK PHOTO CD $15.53
NB> ANIMALS MPC (SAN DIEGO ZOO) $20.70
NB> DAGGER OF AMON RA $32.78 TOO MANY MORE TO LIS
NB> KINGS QUEST V $16.74
NB> LOOM $14.66 FOR A COMPLETE CATALOG
NB> SUPER SHAREWARE/w/SUPER BBS $31.05 E-mail ADDRESS OR PO
NB> TERRORIST GROUP PROFILES (CIA) $31.91 ADDRESS!!!!
NB> NIGHT OWL 9 $30.19
NB> UP ALL NIGHT $18.11
NB>
Please mail a listing of your CDs to
Thomas Wahl
2035 Kennedy Road
Scarborough, Ontario
Canada
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From: GEOFF SMITH Number: 2853
To: ALL Date: 09/09/93 6:38p
Subj: Oxford English Dictionary Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Has anyone seen the Oxford English Dictionary CD-ROM at a decent price?
List price is $895.00. I'd like to see it "somewhat" lower.
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From: HINGE SYAXX Number: 2854
To: ROBERT PROHL Date: 09/08/93 3:51p
Subj: MSCDEX Woes Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
*] Somewhere in CyberSpace, Robert Prohl barked this at All:
RP> Hey people.. gotta question..
RP> Recently I installed another hard drive for my BBS and
RP> configured it as
RP> the Slave drive, designation D. Since there is a specific
RP> variable for
RP> teh CD rom extension in the Config and Autoexec files, I
RP> figured I could
RP> just change this to reconfigure the CD as E....
RP> However, I keep getting "illegal parameter" or some such
RP> nonsense when
RP> autoexec encounters that line.. what the hey? Can it be
RP> done?
RP> W
RP> --- ConfMail V3.2
RP> * Origin: Paradigm BBS (10 Lines) * Hampton, VA *
RP> 804-838-3644 (1:271/175)
RP> 388/1000 5
Unless you've found the answer, give me the type of CD-ROM drive you have and
the interface card you're using, whether sound card or otherwise. I may have
an answer.
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From: HINGE SYAXX Number: 2855
To: STEWART ROTHMAN Date: 09/08/93 3:53p
Subj: Prescription CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
*] Somewhere in CyberSpace, Stewart Rothman barked this at Mike Shannon:
SR> Mike, I don't know if you've seen some of my recent
SR> messages, but I've
SR> been looking for a medical-type CD, not necessarily with
SR> medical
SR> symptoms and complaints, but a complete listing of
SR> prescription
SR> drugs and possible reactions/complications and a listing of
SR> other prescriptions/drugs that could react or inter-react
SR> with those. I've seen a couple, but no documentation or
SR> background on the individuals or doctors/hospitals that did
SR> the research for the listings. I don't want to buy a disk
SR> that was compiled by some computer enthusiast or technical
SR> research person. I want one put out by a doctor or hospital
SR> staff. Do you have anything like what I'm asking about???
SR> I just saw where somebody returned a MAYO CLINIC CD to for
SR> THE FAMILY DOCTOR. What are these and why was one
SR> returned??? How's the other??
SR> Stu Rothman
SR> --- FD 2.00
SR> * Origin: ALASKAN SOURDOUGH,Rothman's LENS UNLIMITED,Fbks
SR> (1:355/38.6)
SR> 388/1000 5
Family Doctor is somewhat useless. Not in the least comparable to the Mayo
Clinic one. The CD you are looking for is usually sold personally to medical
establishments, and thus somewhat hard to find on the open market. Base price
I've seen runs about $1100 or so.
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From: HINGE SYAXX Number: 2856
To: JIMM CRAWFORD Date: 09/08/93 3:55p
Subj: CD-ROMs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
*] Somewhere in CyberSpace, Jimm Crawford barked this at All:
JC> I'm doing some market research on CD-ROMs...
JC> What is it that you look for in purchasing SHAREWARE/Public
JC> Domain
JC> files on CD-ROMs? Any and all specifics would be
JC> appreciated.
JC> * RM 1.2 00556 * Does "Bad FAT" mean disk has high
JC> cholesterol???
JC> --- WM v3.01/92-0004
JC> * Origin: The Computer Room-Pickerington, Oh (614)861-8377
JC> (1:226/110.0)
Check out PC-SIG series. Had alot of pleased persons with them. They usually
have ALOT on them and range from $50-$90 or so.
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From: HINGE SYAXX Number: 2857
To: TOM CZACHOR Date: 09/08/93 3:57p
Subj: SONY 535 PROBLEM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
*] Somewhere in CyberSpace, Tom Czachor barked this at All:
TC> Help... I have two sony 535 Cd-ROM drives. One will read
TC> all my disks
TC> SMS 1-2-3 & NightOwl 7-8-9, the second drive doesn't like
TC> them all and
TC> ejects them when it can't read them. It is mainly night 8 &
TC> SMS 2 I have
TC> the trouble with.
TC>
TC> Any suggestions??
TC>
TC> >>tom<<
TC> --- GEcho 1.01+
TC> * Origin: The DataWerks -v.32bis- CD-ROM's 717-343-5004
TC> (1:268/316)
TC> 388/1000 5
Had the same problem. It may sound silly, but this problem is usually caused
by the CD drive being tightened to tight in the case. On my multispin, I cannot
tighten the screws at all. Had the same problem with a client on their Sony.
Just unscrew it all the way, try it, watch it work, and then slowly tighten it
and try it until it gets too tight again. Amazing....eh?
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From: JUSTIN RUSSELL Number: 2858
To: ALL Date: 09/09/93 6:36p
Subj: multi CD-ROM? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey has anyone out there seen a CD-ROM that can hold 6 CD's and change them?
I have been searching but have not come across one yet and if you do have one
such as this is it SCSI?
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From: CHRIS CONKLIN Number: 2859
To: STEWART ROTHMAN Date: 09/09/93 8:52p
Subj: Prescription CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Stewart,
I carry Prescription Drugs Dos Version. It is a complete Pharmacist's guide to
the medications field. Retails for $79.95 and I sell for $29.00
Let me know if you are interested...
C-3 Production System
PO Box 60144
San Angelo, Tx
76904
915-944-7187
If you are interested reply a post with your address etc and I'll send you a
complete catalog with descriptions and all.....
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From: CHRIS CONKLIN Number: 2860
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/09/93 8:57p
Subj: Disc fix Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
Hi Bob,
Remember me? I'm the guy you promised three times you would send the fix to Up
All Night. Hope you are still planning on supporting your product.
Please get with me and let me know what's going on.
I realize you are a busy person, but I need you to help me distribute a quality
product to my customers....
Waiting to hear from you real soon.
Chris Conklin
7705 Warrior
San Angelo, Tx
76904
915-944-7187
Thanks Bob
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From: ED YEE Number: 2861
To: SCOTT CONDER Date: 09/09/93 9:08p
Subj: Mitsumi CD ROM Drive; Sound Board Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SC> 1) Can I access audio CD's with only the interface
SC> card that comes with the drive?
Yes.
SC> 2) Is the supplied interface card all I need to access such ROM's as
SC> encyclopedias, etc., or will I need a sound card?
SC> In particular, will I have to have a sound board to
SC> access sound files and graphics in an encyclopedia?
Yes, some use monaural sound shooting out to a stereo system (cords not
included for this) or the headphone plug. A sound card is not necessary, but
it's nice to have and some CD-software may require a 16 bit sound card.
If it's a 16-bit, most likely you can use the audio out from the CD-ROM and
plug it on the sound card. So sound from both the sound card and the CD-ROM
will share a pair of speakers.
SC> 4) If I get a sound card with a SCSI port built in,
SC> will the SCSI port work with the Mitsumi drive and
SC> allow me to get rid of the drive's dedicated IF?
No.
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From: ED YEE Number: 2862
To: ED TURNOCK Date: 09/09/93 9:13p
Subj: What is "MPC-compatible system"? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
ET> Got a new "Power up" catalog today and it has some
ET> very good deals on CDROMS, However, and you knew
ET> there had to be one, some of them are flagged as
ET> needing a "MPC-compatible system".
ET> Does anyone know what this is? I called the power
ET> up 800 number and the guy that answered didn't
ET> know either, although he promised to find out and
ET> said if I would call tomorrow he would know
It means that the system is either compatible with the MPC level 1 standards or
the MPC level 2 standards. I would explain the MPC levels and what is
required, but I've got to run and start my homework. See ya.
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From: CHIP MORROW Number: 2863
To: ALL Date: 09/09/93 7:47p
Subj: El Cheapo CDROM's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Unloading some used CD's in preparation for 7th Guest:
Game Arena 6.00
PC Game Room 8.00
Natl Geo. Mammals 12.00
Hall of Fame (Shareware CD) 5.00
Sample THIS! 2.50
...or take all five off my hands for $30.00 flat. Prices include postage
anywhere here in the 48 states.
If you want any/all of these, send check or money order to:
Chip Morrow
40 Valley View Drive
Newark, OH 43055
I will return your check via US Mail if what you want is already gone.
If you want to make sure I'm really a live individual <g>, I can be
reached evenings/weekends at 614-366-2296.
--- WM v2.09/92-0389
* Origin: The Mother Board,Buckeye Lake,OH(614)928-2339 (1:226/1400)
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 2864
To: ANDREW SEE Date: 09/09/93 4:28p
Subj: Re: 16 bit cards Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Andrew See to ANDRE QUEREE <=-
AS> Even the best Stereo sound from the FM based soundcards you are
AS> talking about is pretty ordinary. Wavetable cards sound tons better.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Any recommendations if sound quality, compatibility, and price were the
only considerations (i.e. ignoring CD capabilities)?
... ebius tagline. This is a moebius tagline. This is a mo ...
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 2865
To: ALL DEALERS Date: 09/09/93 5:03p
Subj: CD SALES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Yo: Mike, Boris, Jim, Dave, Ismail, & any others:
I'm in a discussion/debate on a local BBS regarding who buys the most
CDs - sysops or end users. If any of you have any *DATA* (i.e. not just
opinions) on this subject that you'd be willing to share, I'd surely
like to have it. Ideally, it would be broken up by type of CD, e.g.
shareware, general interest (like an encyclopedia), specialty (like ham
radio or geneology), etc.
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 2866
To: LEE NOGA Date: 09/09/93 5:10p
Subj: Southern Beauties Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Unfortunately, Ismail's not alone. This CD is being hawked to sysops in
several adult echos/links as "New, Hot, and BBS Ready". I tried to warn
them (hawkers). Told them to read the back of the jewel case (copyright
notice); told them to look at the "FILES.BBS" files (they're there but
useless); etc. I was told rather impolitely to buzz off. I guess
Blaine's got his work cut out for him (sigh).
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From: NIEL EYDE Number: 2867
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/06/93 12:03p
Subj: SALE CD-ROM'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NB> TOO MANY MORE TO
NB> FOR A COMPLETE CATA
NB> E-mail ADDRESS OR
NB> ADDRESS!!!!
Please Email a complete list to me at NielE@AOL.COM
Thank you
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From: NICK LAWRUS Number: 2868
To: ALL Date: 09/08/93 10:48p
Subj: Texel CDROM questions Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
How good are the Texel CDROMS? Speed, reliability, etc. Anybody own
these units?
And does the speed of a CDROM really matter? I mean, they are all
pretty slow anyway, right? Thanks in advance!
nick.lawrus@f121.n369.z1.fidonet.org
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From: VICTOR HEALEY Number: 2869
To: ALL Date: 09/05/93 8:57a
Subj: SB 16, Panasonic drives, audio quality, inacurate review Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
This last summer a nameless Computer Magazine rated sound cards.
They downrated the SB 16 because it appeared to have a measure of
distortion in its audio output compared to some others.
I purchased their recommended sound card and have since returned it
because it was not fully compatible in every sense with the SB 16 or
the SB PRo for that matter.
What do these "so called" reviewers miss? First many cards claim to be
Sound Blaster compatible but which sound blaster? The orginal SB is the
the lowest standard. The PRO added stero, etc the 16 adds much better
sound, the ASP adds higher speed, compression etc. and so on.
I tried running the SB 16 demo on these other cards and noticed sounds
were missing or not in stero. If I had not allready used the demo with the
sound blaster 16 I may not have noticed what was missing. How much of
some really neat SB audio or sound effects in commercial programs will one
miss by using these other SB 16 compatible cards?
Second most cards have a token on board audio amplifier to about 3 watts,
some
to 7 watts. These amplifiers are ment to drive a pair of small "cheap?"
speakers. The design of this audio section is were some non linear audio
output can occur ( ie bad review). Who cares if they are connected to
speakers that are even more non linear? Did you notice that if you are
going to connect these cards to a really great set of speakers, such
as the ones that come with your home stero sound system, you will need to
have a more powerful amplifier? This high quality amplfier can take the
digital
signals directly from the sound blaster output WITHOUT GOING THROUGH the
local SB AMPLIFIER, just set the jumper to disable it. Try connecting
a PAS to a good stero without disabling the PAS amplifier and you may
find that you have to replace some expensive parts as warned in the PAS
manual.
The point is there are a bunch off gottchas in selecting a sound card.
SB is still the standard and may be for some time. The others offer
certain features which at one time made sense. The most notable one was that
the double speed CDROM drives were SCSI drives only and you got a cheap
(or not so cheap after buying cables and software drivers) SCSI interface.
The new Panasonic drives that are fast and hook directly to the SB card
if needed appear to be a better overall value. If one needes scsi for other
devices, wouldn't one be better advised to have purchased a decent scsi 2
card?
Another item to consider is the included software and documentation with
the sound card. The sound blaster includes high quality and epensive
software. Stuff supplied with most of the other cards looks like it was the
product of the third world, poor quality or backward, definitly not the
current standard.
Conclusion be careful when reading reviews and noting the advice of others,
including my own! Mistakes can be made, advice can be misleading, when it is
intentional you may find that you have been injured in following it to some
one elses gain. But that applies to the whole realm of human relations.
... File not found, I'll load something *I* think is interesting.
--- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR]
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From: DOUG DAGGER Number: 2870
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 09/09/93 6:04p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Sorry this is a little late but, I was asking you how fast and how good are the
graphics on the mitsumi 350ms CD-ROM?
Any other good CD-ROMs?
with good graphics.
s
--- QuickBBS 2.80 (Gamma-2)
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From: ELDON WAKEFIELD Number: 2871
To: TOM CZACHOR Date: 09/10/93 7:33a
Subj: Re: SONY 535 PROBLEM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Tom I had the same problem went to K-Marts and got a disk cleaner came home
and ran it in the drive seems to have helped Eldon
--- TBBS v2.1/NM
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From: SCOTT CONDER Number: 2872
To: GIL MACHIN Date: 09/09/93 10:06p
Subj: Mitsumi CD ROM Drive; So Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Gil,
Many thanks for your response to my questions. It sounds like you wish you had
the Panasonic in place of the Mitsumi. I'll check into it. One related
question about the Panasonic for now -- do you know if it will operate with a
standard SCSI interface?
As far as the sound card question goes, I may be thinking of buying more than I
need for my immediate purposes. My setup at home probably is way underpowered
to do any half-serious digital recording and editing.
Thanks again for the info.
Best Regards,
Scott
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From: ROY COCHRUN Number: 2873
To: JIMM CRAWFORD Date: 09/09/93 8:49p
Subj: Re: CD-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
What I look for when I buy a shareware/public domain CD-ROM is a good
FILES.BBS for each sub-directory (and there must be sub-directories.
One adult disc manufacturer had none. That wasn't too handy). I look
for no dupes. This means that manufacturer must spend TIME tracking
them down. I certainly don't want the last four releases of something,
such as McAffee's SCAN when it appeared on the 3x ROM set, Shareware
Bonanza. In fact, I found only one good program in that set. It would
otherwise have been a waste of money. I don't mind seeing graphics,
both PCX and GIF, but don't duplicate them. Again, hunt down the
dupes. Some people rename files slightly and perhaps add their own
advertisement in the ZIP file, changing the size too. It's still a
dupe! ...
I, personally, am not interested in games. So I prefer ROMs
that keep them to a minimum.
... I like mapping programs, tutorials (for me personally these
tutorials should be programming in C and C++), graphics manipulation,
sound files (.WAV and .VOC) and editors of such. I like GOOD demos
that put VGA and SoundBlaster through its paces. I like text with a
good search engine, but I think that is beyond the scope of a sw/pd
disc. Hope this helps. -- regards, Roy Cochrun
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From: ROY COCHRUN Number: 2874
To: RON YOUNG Date: 09/09/93 8:52p
Subj: Re: Creative labs # Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Ron, the number I have for Creative Labs BBS has not answered in over a
week for me, but here it is: 1-408-428-6664. Perhaps they are only up
during the work day now, when most of us cannot call. If you learn of
another number, please post it. -- regards, Roy Cochrun
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From: ROY COCHRUN Number: 2875
To: NORMAN HAVENS Date: 09/09/93 8:57p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Refer: NONE
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Thought I would remark on your discussion of Japanese dials and
switches on players and their perceived differences in sound quality.
When I was in Japan some 25 years ago, they sold two different types of
sound equipment. One was for the domestic (Japanese) market, the other
was for the export market (primarily the US in those days). Both types
were high quality, but the domestic equipment had many more dials and
switches. My perception was that they liked these things, even though
the changes in sound they provided normally were out of range of the
human ear. They like gadgets, the more dials and knobs, the better.
The ones for export sounded just as good, but we don't go for all those
gadgets. At least that was my personal theory then. -- regards, Roy
Cochrun
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From: ROBERT NEE Number: 2876
To: ROBERT PROHL Date: 09/09/93 10:09a
Subj: MSCDEX Woes Refer: NONE
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RP>Hey people.. gotta question..
RP>Recently I installed another hard drive for my BBS and configured it as
RP>the Slave drive, designation D. Since there is a specific variable for
RP>teh CD rom extension in the Config and Autoexec files, I figured I
could
RP>just change this to reconfigure the CD as E....
If you would like to make the CDROM correspond to drive E use the /L:E
parameter on your MSCDEX command line. /L allows you to assign the drive
letter.
Robert F. Nee
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2877
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/07/93 5:18p
Subj: CD-ROM INTERFACES Refer: NONE
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> BF> For those of us that don't have MCA or EISA (or local bus,
> BF> for that matter),
> BF> the IN-2000 is an excellent choice, and FAR superior overall to any of
the
> BF> Adaptec stuff (especially considering relative PRICING).
> I've not noticed any price premium for Adaptec.
A 1542C (current Adaptec closest equivilent to the IN-2000) runs almost half
again of typical IN-2000 pricing.
>You suggest that the Always is superior overall. In what way?
MUCH easier to setup. My FIRST IN-2000 was literally plug-and-play, much less
the SECOND one - while the pair of 154x controllers I replaced with IN-2000s
were a pain to set up, I NEVER could get the bleeding ASPI drivers to recognise
a 3'd drive no matter WHAT I tried, the performance was no better to a hair
SLOWER (seems to be drive limited in both cases, though), I had the "common"
problems with QEMM interferance, and Adaptec tech support (at the time, at
least) was non-existant.
> BF> which stuff is
> BF> overhyped on an ISA bus
> BF> anyway due to BUS throughput limitations under DMA.
> It is far from over-hyped. The bus throughput limitations are on
>MOTHERBOARD DMA, not busmastering. Busmastered DMA can proceed at the limit
of
>the ISA bus' ability to function. More importantly, it proceeds without the
>intervention of the CPU, which can be off doing more appropriate things.
Only if you run an OS that takes advantage of it - I run DOS, so it doesn't do
anything for me....
>but many of us know better than to stick with DOS.
I have no choice, as my primary application for this machine doesn't have
anything resembling an equal under any other OS.
* SLMR 2.1a * This IS my "other computer"!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2878
To: MARTIN GOMEZ Date: 09/07/93 6:04p
Subj: CD-ROM TRADE? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>3.Mantis Experimental Fighter & Civilization
Is this version of Civilization any different from the "normal" version
distributed on floppy?
* SLMR 2.1a * Faster modem = less time spent? Naah, more files grabbed.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2879
To: DAVID WINGER Date: 09/07/93 6:06p
Subj: WRITABLE CD-ROM'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> SL> Can you produce your own CD's?
>Yes, but you need a WORM drive for that.
You need a "write once CD-ROM recorder" for that - a "WORM" drive will NOT
write to CD-ROM compatable media.
* SLMR 2.1a * Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers for President in '96!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2880
To: DAVID WINGER Date: 09/07/93 6:07p
Subj: NEW CD-ROM Refer: NONE
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>Does anyone out there want to buy a brand new still in the box Panasonic
>CR-562-B double speed CD-ROM drive for $480.
You might want to mention that those are $Au - that price is HORRIBLE by U.S.
standards, and could generate some flames from the ignorant...
> Cairns, Tropical North Qld (3:640/531)
... that don't bother reading or don't understand where you're from....
* SLMR 2.1a * Caffine, Chocolate, Pizza, Fritos: THE 4 Food Groups.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2881
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/07/93 6:22p
Subj: TRANTOR SCSI CONTROLL Refer: NONE
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> BF> save yourself some
> BF> $$ and a LOT of support grief and get an Allways IN-2000.
> Have you called their tech support lately?
Why? I haven't NEEDED Tech Support from Allways....
>I have heard several reports of people having had
>problems in the past with Adaptec when it comes to tech support, but
apparently
>they have really beefed up their support staff and their attitude has done an
>about face some time in the last three years.
Must have been in the last YEAR or less, then - I've not had my first IN-2000
much more than that - and it wasn't a case of "problems with tech support", it
was that if you weren't one of the major Adaptec DISTRIBUTORS, you didn't get
ANY Tech Support out of them.
* SLMR 2.1a * I'm the 5'th reincarnation of the Cat Curiosity killed...
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2882
To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 09/07/93 6:23p
Subj: SOME DISK RECOMMENDATIONS Refer: NONE
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>> There is something inherent in dos that makes getting the >
>information on the file size, date, etc.... VERY slow especially > after you
>exceed 4 or 5 hundred files in a directory. Some > programmers have
>found a way around this problem...
> BF> I can tell you how TBBS does it - it came up with a
> BF> "pseudo-directory" format
> BF> (text file description of available files) that allows
> BF> the time/date/etc. to be
> BF> INCLUDED in the description, thus limiting actual
> BF> accesses to when a download is performed....
>I was talking about the programming that builds such a list.
Unfortunately, that part either takes a while to compile the list
automagically, or takes a human to write the list....
* SLMR 2.1a * I believe in an individual's freedom to be happy.
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From: MIKE AVILA Number: 2883
To: JEFF CUTLER Date: 09/08/93 4:51p
Subj: Smartdrv as cache Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
*** Quoting Jeff Cutler to William Schneider, Jr. dated 09-06-93 ***
> to treat the CD-Rom Drive as a Network Drive. SMARTDRV probably won't
> let you use it on a Network drive (It isn't really but DOS thinks so.)
>
>
> Jeff
FYI: If my memory chips are working, I remember reading in PC Week and/or
InfoWorld that SmartDrv coming out with DOS 6.2 **WILL** cache CD-ROM drives.
Supposedly the SmartDrv coming out with DOS 6.2 (which will be SmartDrv 4.2) is
already available for free on CompuServe. Not sure if it does cache CD-ROM
though. I'm looking forward to that!
Mike
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From: BRYAN MITCHELL Number: 2884
To: STEVE PROCTOR Date: 09/09/93 9:51a
Subj: Mitsumi Refer: NONE
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> How does one order the OS/2 CDROM Driver for the Mitsumi CDROM?
> I am interested in purchasing it.
> Steve
Hi Steve,
I ordered mine from a guy in Florida named Joe Cossette. The name of the
company is:
Systems Integrations Technologies, Inc.
1280 South Powerline Road
Suite 171
Pompano Beach, FL 33069
305-968-4605
Cost was $25.00 for the Driver and for me since I live in Panama the
shipping was $4.95. He also has a BBS number that you can download the driver
from once he get's your order. I recommend it, as it has been working great.
He has also just finished the code for the audio support. Works like a charm.
Hope this helps. You've probably already gotten a reply from the states,
but us behind the power curve guys down in Panama, just want to try and help.
.....Bryan
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2885
To: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON Date: 09/10/93 12:38a
Subj: Re: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
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>> I live in Canada and I am looking for the new 562B Panasonic
>> CD-ROM drive that is suppose to be multi-spin & compatible
>> with SBPro / SB16. Do you have the drive for sale or do you
>> have any idea where I can get it ( US or Canada ) for the best
>> possible price?
Yes, the 562B is a multi-spin system and will work with the SB16
just fine.
If your interested in any additional information, please feel free to
drop us a line via the fidonet address below or call us direct at
216-225-3263 anytime 7 days a week and we'll be happy to assist you
further.
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... The Far East pirate's choice!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2886
To: DAVID KOLLE Date: 09/10/93 12:38a
Subj: Re: Snail Mail CD's Refer: NONE
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>> Greetings from OZ ...... Boris,
>> The Snail Mail parcel of CD's arrived on my doorstep on the
>> 1st of September and I noticed that your post mark was the
>> 30th of August !!!
>> Now that is sooommmee ffaaasstt snail !!!!
>> Thank you for your excellent service .... Kind regards
Wow !! David, that's a faster service then we have here in the states.
We mail a letter here to a city not more than 20 miles away and it sometimes
takes 5 days before it get's there.
Glad to hear everythings OK and hopefully we'll be hearing from you
again real soon.
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress makes it's motion picture debut as the "The Emailator"!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2887
To: TERRY MENZIES Date: 09/10/93 1:46a
Subj: Re: Cdrom systems Refer: NONE
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-=>> Quoting Boris Osadciw to All <=-
BO>> *************** C D - R O M D R I V E P R I C E S
BO>> Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit - $195.00
>> etc etc etc.
BO>> Boris Osadciw
>>
>> Hi Boris,
>> Please explain about "KIT" What do you get for $195.00 ?
What this means Tom is that the system is complete with everything
you need to get the cd online. You get the controller, drive, cable,
drivers, manual and attaching hardware.
Interested in any additional information, please feel free to call us
at 216-225-3263 anytime 7 days a week and we'll be glad to help.
Boris Osadciw
... Protected Mode Xpress! It's hot!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2888
To: MARK GLENN Date: 09/10/93 1:46a
Subj: Re: NEW DR.CD's Refer: NONE
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>> Hello Boris!
>> is the black box out yet?
Sorry to say, but NO. We have elected not to carry it as the author
has rasied his price to the point it isn't worth the kind of $$ he wants
for a shareware cd. It maybe be worth $75. in England, but no way is it
worth that in the U.S.
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... Simply more bang for your bucks!
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From: LOIS FRANKEL Number: 2889
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/09/93 9:46p
Subj: red tape Refer: NONE
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Finally got through to Purchasing today (Thursday), and they tell me the
order was sent your way today (with check). It seems that for some
unknown reason it was passed back and forth between PC Support and
Purchasing for a while. Anyway, you should see it soon!
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From: JOHN RACKLEY Number: 2890
To: PETER LASNE Date: 09/08/93 11:56p
Subj: Re: AMIGA CD ROM.. Refer: NONE
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Hi, I noticed you talking about the CD32. There was a rumor that the CD32
would have an external SCSI connector - allowing CD32 owners to bypass the
"Amiga Inside" and use the internal CD-ROM drive as a SCSI device for another
computer (IBM, Mac, etc.). I was seriously thinking about getting - the
price I've seen quoted is $399.
You seem to be saying that the only way to run the CD32's CD-ROM externally
is to network the CD32 to another computer. Please explain what kind of
network you're talking about (like a LAN-type network)?
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From: JOHN RACKLEY Number: 2891
To: PHILIP WHEAT Date: 09/09/93 12:10a
Subj: Re: AMIGA CD ROM.. Refer: NONE
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RE: NEC CDR-25 on the Amiga 2500.
This is a SCSI connected external CD-ROM drive right? Please tell me where
you found it for only $159 dollars! (?)
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From: JOHN RACKLEY Number: 2892
To: JOHN PENDLETON Date: 09/09/93 12:34a
Subj: Re: SHAREWARE AND CDS Refer: NONE
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I think the reference was to the Commodore CD32, which has the double speed
CD-ROM drive built into it. The Atari Jaguar is a cartridge based system that
has CD-ROM only as an option (just like the Sega Genesis).
I noticed you mentioned that you are running a CD-ROM drive on an Atari
computer. I am planning to buy the multimedia Atari Falcon, and was
wondering what kind of CD-ROM drive you are using (and where in the world do
you find software for it)?
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From: CHRIS WOOD Number: 2893
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/09/93 7:43p
Subj: DR. CD Collection Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Boris Osadciw wrote in a message to All:
BO> ORDER LINE ONLY - 800-243-0517 - TECH - 216-225-3263 - FAX -
BO> 216-225-6759
Ever consider making that 800 number a North America wide toll free line? Us
folks up here in Canada give you some business don't we? <grin>
Anyhow, thanks to your efforts for getting me a SCSI CDrom Drive but I found
one here locally that costs me the same if I ordered from the U.S.
Cheers...
Chris - Team OS/2 - Internet: cwood@hpb.hwc.ca
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From: MARC CIRCOSTA Number: 2894
To: TONY STOTT Date: 09/07/93 1:47p
Subj: Echo Rules Refer: NONE
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On 09-06-1993, TONY STOTT wrote...
TS> BH>This echo, CDROM, would stay basically the information echo. All ads
TS> BH>any form would be diverted to the CDROMSALE Echo, moderated by Tim
TS> BH>Helton. Adult titles would be discussed in that echo also,
TS>
TS> Bob, I have not heard of the cdromsale echo making it to
TS> Australia, so if you remove ads from this echo, the Australian
TS> contingent will be cut off from access to the many bargains found in
TS> the 10-line adverts. TS> On the other hand, if we in Zone 3 can get the
cdromsale, I
TS> would be happy to read both, and would also support your echo being
TS> "purified" by the removal of adverts.
TS>
TS> To other Zone 3 readers... any takers for getting the cdromsale
TS> echo brought in?
Yep, cutting out the adverts would sure be sad for us folks on "the
opther side". A lot of good prices get posted here, and a fair few of
us but regularly from advertisers in this echo. If it were to be cut,
or "purified" (great word), then we would be at a sore loss. On the
other hand, I'm sure everyone wouldn't mind the seperatiion into two
groups, as long as we manage to get this SALE confrence dropped over
here!
Food for thought eh?
Marc.
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From: KEN CHAN Number: 2895
To: ALL Date: 09/04/93 7:18p
Subj: mail order Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello
Have anyone tried mail ordering cd-rom disks? What is the procedure
and most of all, can you trust them?
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2896
To: ANDY STEERE Date: 09/09/93 8:54p
Subj: Re: PANASONIC Refer: NONE
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Hi Andy!
On 09-04-93 Andy Steere wrote to Rowan Evans...
AS> I am reading the CR-562-B instruction manual as I type:
..[data deleted]..
AS> In other words... DoubleSpeed=320ms(avg), SingleSpeed=380ms(avg).
AS> This may explain why there is some confusion about the CR-562-B
AS> and the 380ms figure. When operated in DV mode (not sure when
AS> the SingleSpeed mode is ever used), this is a 320ms drive.
Yeah, well a photocopy of a spex sheet was the only doco I've ever
managed to see on the CR562B and it gave the figures I posted.
Thanx for the update!
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2897
To: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON Date: 09/09/93 8:58p
Subj: Re: Panasonic CDR-63 Refer: NONE
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Hi Christian!
On 09-06-93 Christian Bourguignon wrote to Rowan Evans...
CB> So the 562B/563 now is compatible with SBPro?
Always has been, always will be!
CB> Do you have any such idea where I can purchase this drive in Canada?
Nope but there are some US dealers that haunt this echo that sell it...
Try a msg to Mike Shannon, Boris Osadiciw or Ismail Arslingay...
CB> Is it OS/2 2.1 compatible?
I picked up an OS/2 driver the other day... am yet to unpack it so I
can't say yea or nay......
CB> One last question, what is the difference between 562B & the 563
How does 1 sound?? Or 24 letters??
Seriously, I am informed that the CR563 is an OEM model number for
the drive and is allocated to those that Creative Labs sell, the
CR562B is the model number for general release. CR503 is the model
number for the SCSI version!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2898
To: MICHAEL MULCAHY Date: 09/09/93 8:59p
Subj: Anatomist¬ Refer: NONE
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Hi Michael!
On 09-07-93 Michael Mulcahy wrote to Rowan Evans...
MM> Well Mate, I didn't exceed the TEN line maximum per the
MM> echo rules
This is only for ADs, not for technical discussions!
MM> and I didn't continue to send page after page
MM> of pontification about "To Caddy or Not to Caddy"! <g>
Its important to some people.... Especially those who are about to
buy a CD_ROM drive!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2899
To: DAVID CHILDRESS Date: 09/09/93 9:19p
Subj: CD-ROM questions Refer: NONE
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Hi David!
On 09-06-93 David Childress wrote to All...
DC> I have a few questions that I would like to ask about CD-ROM systems.
DC>
DC> 1). What is the difference between multi-session and single-session?
A single session drive is *UNABLE* to see any additional sessions on
a multisession CD-ROM.... Kodak Photo CD allows for multiple sessions
of photos on a CD-ROM (just so you can fill it up - pretty useless if
all Photo CD could do was hold 36 photos!)....
DC> 2). Is there any problem hooking up a SCSI compatable CD-ROM system
DC> to a IDE type computer?
When you say IDE here, I assume you're talking about an IDE hard drive...
There should be no problems... I've used both a Pro Audio Spectrum sound
card with SCSI and an Adaptec 1542B SCSI host adapter in a machine that
had a 120Mb IDE HDD as the boot drive....
DC> 3). Does anyone have a good recommendation on a CD-ROM system\bundle?
Try one of the Creative Labs kits with the SB 16 ASP and the double speed
Panasonic CR563 CD-ROM drive.... Also good are the Media Vision kits,
but the cheaper ones use a SONY bus rather than the SCSI you'd expect...
DC> 4). What should be considered the minimum access times to look for?
MPC Level 2 spec is 320ms average access... The lower the better (and the
more expensive!)....
DC> 5). Anything else you care to mention that would be helpful? Your
DC> .02 matters. <G>
Coming from Australia, due to exchange rate conversions, Its worth $10.00!
Cheers & Beers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2900
To: DANIEL PRINCE Date: 09/09/93 9:29p
Subj: 16-bit sound cards Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-05-93 Daniel Prince wrote to All...
DP> My brother has found that some of his games (especially Sherlock
DP> Holmes II) don't sound very good on his 8-bit Sound Blaster. He
DP> was wondering if switching to a 16-bit card would make these
DP> games sound better even if they aren't written specifically for a
DP> 16-bit card. Would a 16-bit sound card make games written for an
DP> 8-bit card sound better?
Shouldn't!
DP> Does anyone have any opinions on which 16-bit sound card will
DP> become the standard? The Pro Audio Spectrum 16 was the first 16-
DP> bit sound card but the Sound Blaster 16 has the advantage of the
DP> 8-bit SB being the previous standard.
Either/or... Both are good cards... The SB 16/16 ASP has the advantage
of being able to add a daughter card for wave table synthesis... Which
is currently the domain of the GUS and Turtle Beach cards...
DP> Does anyone know exactly what the difference is between the Sound
DP> Blaster 16 and the ASP version?
The ASP chip... Allows you to do hardware assisted compression/decompression
of recorded sounds... not currently used by any commercial software....
DP> What is the difference between the Pro Audio Spectrum and Studio?
Pass....
DP> He found a review of the Pro Audio Spectrum 16 that said that to
DP> make it Sound Blaster compatible you have to run a driver
DP> program. Does anyone know how big this driver is and if it
DP> can be loaded high? Thank you in advance for all replies.
Not real big and yes, it can be loaded high.... BUT the PAS16 is only
SB 2.0 compatible (8-bit sound)....
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2901
To: BERTRAND SCHMITT Date: 09/09/93 9:36p
Subj: Kit 16ASP Refer: NONE
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Hi Bertrand!
On 09-04-93 Bertrand Schmitt wrote to All...
BS> Here is an incoming message from Switzerland. ( fasten your seatbelt )
Here is a reply from Australia, hang onto your hat!
BS> I'm thinking of buying the Sound Blaster 16ASP Multimedia Upgrade Kit.
BS> Up to now, I was only able to find a 16 without the ASP version.
BS>
BS> I read in a magazine "TILT" that the latest kit that Creative Labs
BS> made was with the 16ASP and the Panasonic CDR 652B. Is is able of double
BS> speed and an amazing 600Kb/s with some games ( Yes, it was written
BS> black on white).
Make that the CR563 (OEM model # for the Panasonic CR562B) and you've
got it.... And *YES* I have seen The 7th Guest install program state
that one machine's CR563 was capable of 612Kbps (another was 584Kbps,
mine was only 548Kbps - bummer....).....
BS> The question is: Has anybody never heard of it ?
I've heard of it! I bought the Business MM U/G kit for work.... Had the
16 ASP and CR563 with STW MM Encyc., Grandma & Me, Creative Sounds,
Authoware Star, Macromind Action, Carmen SD... All for $A1299.00!
BS> Does it exist?
Durn tootin' it exists... plus I have put together a CR562B and SB 16 ASP
for home... much cheaper than the MM U/G kit......
BS> Where can I find it ( in Switzerland perhaps ) ?
The US dealers would probably sell you one....
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2902
To: ROBERT PROHL Date: 09/09/93 9:38p
Subj: MSCDEX Woes Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Robert!
On 09-06-93 Robert Prohl wrote to All...
RP> Hey people.. gotta question..
RP>
RP> Recently I installed another hard drive for my BBS and configured it
RP> as the Slave drive, designation D. Since there is a specific variable
RP> for teh CD rom extension in the Config and Autoexec files, I figured I
RP> could just change this to reconfigure the CD as E....
RP>
RP> However, I keep getting "illegal parameter" or some such nonsense when
RP> autoexec encounters that line.. what the hey? Can it be done?
Tell us what CD-ROM drive (and controller card) you're running....
These things are *EXTREMELY* manufacturer specific!
o
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From: JOHN HILVERT Number: 2903
To: SIMON COGGINS Date: 09/09/93 8:22a
Subj: RE: CD-ROM VS. DISK VERSI Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Simon Coggins to Ron Findling <=-
> Presumably though if they ARE adding scenes to the
> CD version not in
> the disk version, that costs money for them to do, and
> they should
> be allowed to charge extra because of that. ...And
SC> But then you must remember that they don't loose money on breaching
SC> the copyright crap on the games.. (Not unless you have 650meg free on
SC> your HD..
Without that copyright "crap", Sierra would not even think about being
in the software business, let alone CD-ROM versions.
I am getting to the stage where I am turning my back on software companies
that do not bring out CD-ROM versions at about the same time as the
HD versions. Lucas Arts' stands out here in bringing out Day of the
Tentacle - at least in the US - at about the same time as the floppy
disc version.
... Catch the Blue Wave!
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From: LAURIE BATT Number: 2904
To: BRAD LEWIS Date: 09/08/93 9:56a
Subj: N.owl9 SBPro CD-Rom 521C noway Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
G'day Brad, In a message on <Sep 04>, you said :
BL> About a year ago I purchased a SBPro mutimidia kit with an
BL> Internal CD-Rom drive Model 521C and You would not believe
BL> the different stories I get as I go from store to store
BL> with my question.
BL> I have been told that Creative Labs still includes the
BL> same CD-rom drive in the kit as it did back then. I have my
BL> doubts. I bought Nightowl 9 and found I could not read it;
BL> so, I began my quest to find out why.
BL> I phoned the Nightowl distributers and they told me that
BL> they are just starting to hear about this and are
BL> considering releasing another version of 9 so the older
I just dont understand any of this.
I have almost the very first SBPRO/CDROM released by Creative Labs. Mine was
purchased in Singapore about the time of the official release over two years
ago.
I have no problems with NIght Owls 9 or any other disks I have used.
Laurie
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From: LAURIE BATT Number: 2905
To: STEVE GOYER Date: 09/08/93 10:06a
Subj: Sb-16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
G'day Steve, In a message on <Sep 01>, you said :
SG> So, if I have a SoundBlaster-16 (which I will soon have) I
SG> can just hook the CD ROM into the card, right?
Yes, provided that it is a Panasonic with the Creative Labs AT Bus interface.
Laurie
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From: LAURIE BATT Number: 2906
To: ALAN WHITEMORE Date: 09/08/93 10:10a
Subj: Panasonic 562B + SB mono Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
G'day Alan, In a message on <Sep 05>, you said :
AW> Hello All!
AW> Is there any trick to setting up a Panasonic 562B CD-ROM
AW> with a Mono 8 bit SB card?
AW> The CD-ROM drive is working fine, but I want to enable the
AW> sound through my old mono SB card (Ver 2). Do I connect the
AW> CD-ROM drive to it's controller card with the 4 wire cable,
AW> and then plug a connecter from the external red and white
AW> jacks on the controller card to the line-in on the SB
That is not a line in. It is a Mike input.
I seriously doubt that you will get any benefit from doing this.
I think you would get much better results to replace tha SB with the SBPro or
better yet get the SB16.
Laurie
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From: GEOFF HOWSE Number: 2907
To: VICTOR ZDANOWICZ Date: 09/08/93 8:20p
Subj: SB16ASP+CD in Win Refer: NONE
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VZ>Has anyone had problems with running the SB16-ASP in windows?... I can
VZ>get the sound... al I hear is the begining of the tune and then silenc
VZ>
VZ>I have done everything posible!!...
VZ>
VZ>Also.. does anyone know how to install Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe
VZ>CD-ROM?
VZ>
Hello Victor,
My SB16ASP/Waveblaster & 563 CD ROM installation went smoothly using the
defaults. I think I had to run a separate setup for Windows and then
enable the card output with MIDI Mapper, otherwise nothing else special
that I can think of.
I'm very happy with my setup. I have had no compatibility problems with
any of the stuff I have (Monkey Island, Carmen, Loom, Encyclopedias,
Grandma and Me etc.) On Night Owl 9 there are some games and demos that
recognise the SB16ASP and sound a lot better for it. I haven't tried any
of the new commercial games that are written for 16 bit cards (yet). My
main interest is in the MIDI side of things (hence the WB).
Maybe if you describe your setup in a bit of detail someone might be able
to help you with the Windows setup. Also you might post a message on the
Computamart BBS (02) 906 8392 - you're sure to get some answers there.
As far as the Secret Weapons installation goes, SWOTL.BAT (on the CD ROM)
creates a directory structure on your hard disk. I found that the game
needed a few DOS files like CHOICE.EXE, SUBST.EXE and SHARE.EXE that I had
deleted from my DOS directory. Once I put them back, SWOTL ran like it
should (although the graphics and sound are definitely "first generation".
Not what you'd expect from a CD ROM game.)
Best of luck! Geoff
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From: GEOFF HOWSE Number: 2908
To: MIKE , BORIS ET AL Date: 09/08/93 8:42p
Subj: A FEW CD'S . . . . . Refer: NONE
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MS> 1001 Utilities (New!).........13.00 Mayo Clinic MPC...............
MS> 5-Star Premium Windows........27.00 Mega Clipart (New!)...........
MS> 7th Guest.....................45.00 Microsoft Bookshelf MPC.......
MS> 9000 Sounds (New!)............30.50 Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......
MS> Adventures of Willy Beamish...30.00 Microsoft Golf MPC (New!).....
MS> Aircraft Encyclopedia.........36.00 Microsoft Musical Instruments.
MS> American Business Phonebk 93..39.00 MIDI Music Shop...............
MS>
Hey Mike/Boris et al,
IS there such thing as a CD version of the Rolling Stone Record Guide?
(published by Random House, I think). What a great application for CD ROM!
Imagine .... searching 50,000 entries for Dave Marsh's review of Born to
Run or Ben Fong Torres review of Zuma and Tonight's the Night. Any luck?
GH.
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From: AUSTEN EVANS Number: 2909
To: RON FINDLING Date: 09/08/93 11:52a
Subj: CD-ROM vs. disk versions Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>What I don't like about sierra is they charge the
>cd version the exact
>same price as the disk version when their making
>more profit on the cd
RF> Presumably though if they ARE adding scenes to
RF> the CD version not in
RF> the disk version, that costs money for them to do, and they should
RF> be allowed to charge extra because of that. ...And
RF> more than one might
I think that it's a two edged sword, while the CD-ROM version may have more on
it (sounds, graphics etc..) so one would assume that a higher price is
justified, the manufacturers don't need to charge this higher price as every
CD-ROM sale is one CD-ROM program in circulation, where-as every (floppy) disk
based program may be copied (pirated) many times.
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From: SEAN TUDOR Number: 2910
To: ROBERT STEPHENS Date: 09/09/93 7:40a
Subj: 7th Guest CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> and Robert Stephens was heard mumbling to SEAN TUDOR <=-
RS> I have a PAS16 myself, but with the SB16 you should be able to set the
RS> volume levels of the mixer from all different sources, for example
RS> with the PAS16 i can set the FM volume, the DIgital volume, in
RS> cd-input volume (and a heap more), i'd say you have to lower the FM
RS> volume before you play T7G, make a batch file to do this (check up your
RS> utilities that came with the SB16), its much easier.
Thanks Robert. I increased the VOC volume setting and now everything is
running fine.
Cya,
Sean.
... Jurassic Sparcs - the first computers with dinosaur power ...
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From: SCOTT REDMAN Number: 2911
To: DOUG SCHWANTES Date: 09/09/93 6:51p
Subj: CD-ROM disk cache Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I use HyperDisk 4.60 now and it is the fastest Cache I've ever used
-> but it does not seem to Cache my CD-ROM drive. I have HyperDisk loade
-> MSCDEX (the latest version that comes with DOS 6) but I can read a GI
-> the CD and then go to read it again and it takes just all long the 2n
-> the 1st, any hints? Thanks, BYE!!!
Yeah Doug, I don't beleive that Hyperdisk supports CD-ROM's, although
here on my BBS I tried this.....first, logged onto my f: drive (CD-ROM),
and then did a DIR from DOS. It read the disc and then displayed the
directory. Then I did DIR again, and it didn't look at the disc the 2nd
time....who knows what that means! <G>
There is a nice program called Speed Cache Plus from Norton....designed
specifically for caching CD-ROM's. I'm using that now, and it works
great!
*** Scott ***
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From: RICK SAMUELS Number: 2912
To: CHRIS WOOD Date: 09/09/93 9:38p
Subj: Adaptec and CDR-501 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
08 Sep 93, Chris Wood writes to All:
CW> I load this in config.sys: ASPI4DOS.SYS /D /L
CW> When I try to load MSCDEX.EXE in my autoexec.bat, it looks for a device
CW> name in the /D: parameter and cannot find one, obviously because ASPI4DOS
CW> does not allow you to specify one.
CW> What am I doing wrong? Do I need another driver for the Panasonic Drive
CW> after ASPI4DOS? I can't get MSCDEX to load no matter what I do.
You need the ASPI CD-Rom driver, not just ASPI4DOS
Rick Samuels
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From: STEPHEN COCHRAN Number: 2913
To: LAURIE BATT Date: 09/09/93 2:12p
Subj: MISLEADING ANSWERS Refer: NONE
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LB> The Magneto Optical is a totally different thing and not in any way
LB> related to the floptical which is only available in 20MB and 128MB
LB> flavours. The Magneto optical is in the 500MB+ range. The Media used
LB> is also totally different .Uses the laser to free up an element
LB> which can be changed magnetically.
Ooops! More and more mistakes.
Floptical - Floppy drive with optical positioning tracks burned onto
the disk. Basically, a 20MB 3 1/2" floppy. Optical tracks are used
for more accurate head positioning ONLY, no data is stored on
O-tracks. Can read/write normal 3 1/2" floppies.
Magneto Optical - 3 1/2" CD type disk, using a laser, magnetic field
and phase change media to yield a REWRITABLE CD type media with
capacities of 128MB and 256MB (some vendors, such as Ocean). Latest
models can read O-ROM (3 1/2" CD ROM, read only) formats.
Note: There exist 5 1/4" Magneto Optical drives that yield in the 600+
MB range, but these are not very popular, and the 3.5" media is
really making inroads for general data storage purposes.
CD-ROM - Requires special machinery to write onto a CD Blank. This
includes a CD-ROM mastering "press" (not a press at all), and a FAST
computer with a FAST hard drive that can provide a SUSTAINED 300KB
per second transfer rate WITH NO BREAKS in the data stream. If the
data stream is interrupted, you get to throw the blank away. Not
rewritable at all. However, additional information can be added to
the end of the disk (Multisession: Photo-CD for example).
WORM - Write Once Read Many. Some of these can read (not write)
CD-ROM disks.
Hope this helps end the confusion.
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From: STEPHEN COCHRAN Number: 2914
To: ED YEE Date: 09/09/93 2:16p
Subj: WRITABLE CD-ROM'S Refer: NONE
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EY> A pioneer WORM drive claims to be compatible. I saw an add for it.
EY> Maybe, it's proprietary.
It only reads CD-ROMs, it does not write them. The most affordable
unit for writing CD-ROMs costs about $6500 (US).
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From: MARK ULRICH Number: 2915
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/09/93 7:48p
Subj: SPECIAL CD-ROM PRICES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please send me your CD-ROM catalog:
Mark Ulrich
2525 Bay Area Blvd, Suite 450
Houston, TX 77058
Thanks,
Mark
Mark
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From: MICHEL ROMY Number: 2916
To: MICHAEL GEGGUS Date: 09/05/93 12:25p
Subj: Re: panasonic 562b Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> controller as it plugs sraight into the SB Pro. Don't know of an
-> external,
-> but post a msg to Wee Yung this echo and he'll certainly
-> reply........
Thanks for your help !
Mike
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From: BERTRAND SCHMITT Number: 2917
To: GIULIANO MACIOCCI Date: 09/07/93 12:14p
Subj: Trident 8900c Refer: NONE
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On (29 Aug 93) Rowan Evans wrote to Giuliano Maciocci Jr....
RE> Hi Giuliano!
RE>
RE> On 08-22-93 Giuliano Maciocci Jr. wrote to Rowan Evans...
RE>
RE> You're confused.... An SVGA card with 1Mb on it is capable of
RE> displaying 65,536 colours in 640x480 resolution in Windows....
RE> SVGA is basically anything over a 64Kb VGA card (640x480x16)
RE> ...
RE> If you want 640x480x64K colours, you'll need the driver for the
RE> Trident card..... You should have it on the diskette that came with your
RE> card!
Hi there,
I'd like to tell you that the Trident card isn't able to display more than
256 colors at a time ( except for the new generation ones ; but they've got
other names ).
So, I'm sorry, but I think that it's impossible to find such a driver...
To help you to forget about this, think about that.
Try once Windows with a 800x600 in 256 colors resolution. It's slow, isn't it ?
Think about how it would be with 65,536 colors, at least, two times slower...
Best advice: If you want a lot of colors, change you card. Try the
Tseng ET4000 HI, it's cheap enough and a little bit faster than the Trident
( which is the slowest one !!! )
Read you soon,
Bertrand
P.S: This message should go to Giuliano Maciocci Jr...
Perhaps has it land to the wrong place, sorry...
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From: BERTRAND SCHMITT Number: 2918
To: GAETANO CALIA Date: 09/07/93 5:45p
Subj: Re: Kit 16ASP Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On (05 Sep 93) Gaetano Calia wrote to Bertrand Schmitt...
GC> You can buy it in Switzerland at the InterDiscount, but Swiss prices
GC> are
GC> ridiculous !!!
I see what you are talking about...
Indeed, thanks.
GC>
GC> Greets, Gaetano
GC>
Bye
Bertrand
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From: BERTRAND SCHMITT Number: 2919
To: GAETANO CALIA Date: 09/07/93 9:34p
Subj: Suisse ? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On (05 Sep 93) Gaetano Calia wrote to Tom Arruba...
Hi there,
You seem to have problems with you CD drive; Sorry about that.
I've got a question: Where did you get your drive from ? And how much did it
cost you ?
I'm asking you those questions because I'm going to buy the 16ASP kit with this
drive ( CDR 652-B or something like this ). And I'm looking for the best price.
An other question: What do you think of it ( the kit ) ?
About me:
I'm also from Switzerland: Neuchâtel. You can reach me by netmail at:
2:301/315.16
or by the CD-ROM echo ( the one I used for this message ).
GC> You're my very last hope, since nobody here seems to understand that
GC> failure !!!
Ah ha, he's your last hope...
It's right, you've got a strange failure. Perhaps try to get newer drivers.
Cheers.
Bertrand
P.S: Do you speak french ?
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From: TOM BROWN Number: 2920
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/07/93 12:55p
Subj: CD-ROMS-DISCOUNT PRICES! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
OK. Here is an address for you.
Brown
Unit: 20195 Box:1578
APO AE 09165
or Fido: 2:244/6204.1 +49-6181-574359
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From: WILLIAM SCHNEIDER, JR. Number: 2921
To: JEFF CUTLER Date: 09/08/93 10:06p
Subj: Smartdrv as cache Refer: NONE
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Thanks Jeff. I have just about gave up on this CD cache thing. Over the
weekend, I bought Norton cache, and it didn't work either! I've got a
fast enough drive (320ms/300kb), I just thought I'd see what it would
do. Thanks again!
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From: FRED FINDLING Number: 2922
To: ANDRE QUEREE Date: 09/10/93 3:05a
Subj: 7TH GUEST. Refer: NONE
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AQ>Making any sort of copy infringes basic copyright laws - I would sug-
AQ>gest you check closer to find out what the laws in your country and state
AQ>are. Most people here still think its OK to copy their CDs to tape to
AQ>listen to in the car - I guess it's just a convenient understanding of
AQ>the law.
AQ>It is also illegal to make backup copies of computer software unless it is
AQ>specifically stated in the software's license agreement.
Here in the U.S. it is generally held that making copies of anything
is acceptable as long as the copies are only for YOUR conmsumption. Copying
a CD on cassette for use in your car is acceptable as long as it is
for YOUR car and YOUR use. Computer software manufacturers generally view
it the same way, that people DO have a reasonable right to back their
files up. Some even go as far as advising their customers to make copies
of the orginal distribution disks and to mount the programme on your HD
from the copies you made. Generally speaking, licensing agreements here
allow licensee to use the software at a single site and to make backup
copies for use at that site. However, use of the software on a network
where multiple site or node access may be possible is usually not pro-
vided for unless they are specifically provided for in the licensing
agreement. (many programmes are offered in "LAN" editions where that
is provided for, although they are generally much higher priced than
single user editions) But in the end, it is usually held that infringe-
ment only takes place if the software ends up being distributed to
third parties. (who obviously aren't licensed to use the product)
Here, actual physical copies of something are not that important, what IS
important is that you have a license to use the product and that you
don't get third parties involved.
............Fred
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From: ROBERTO REYES Number: 2923
To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Date: 09/09/93 9:04a
Subj: Fax Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Ismail
I send a fax to ask about some CD's do you receive it?
Please answer here
thanks
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From: JEFF WEISS Number: 2924
To: SUNNY LEUNG Date: 09/10/93 11:23a
Subj: Write your own CD! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SL>Hi Jeff,
SL>
SL>You were saying ...
SL>
SL> JW> Cost: $50 set up charge per original.
SL> JW> $100 for each CD.
SL> JW> For example, it is $150 for 1 CD, $250 for 2 CDs, $350 for
SL>3 CDs, etc.
SL> JW>
SL> JW> That's less than $0.25 per megabyte!
SL> JW>
SL> JW> SysOps get a $25 per CD discount! 1 CD for only $125! 2
SL>CDs for
SL> JW> $200! Get multiple copies for additional security and save
SL>$$$.
SL> JW>
SL> JW> All prices are in US funds and include Priority delivery
SL>within the
SL> JW> US. COD charges are extra.
SL> JW>
SL> JW> Call for Canadian and overseas delivery.
SL>
SL>Would you mind giving me an extra bit of info?
SL>Do these prices hold for Australia (apart from delivery costs)?
SL>
SL>Regards, Sunny.
SL>
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SL> * Origin: (3:712/401)
Um, I didn't write that... At least I don't think unless I've got a split
personality... I think I got mixed up with someone else...
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From: MICHAEL BERNSTEIN Number: 2925
To: TERRY MENZIES Date: 09/09/93 8:06p
Subj: CD SIZE? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Terry Menzies to All <=-
TM> Hi.
TM> This is all new to me....
TM> I am looking to buy a cd rom drive. The one I am looking at uses a max
TM> of 680 mb disks, is this ok or should I go for something bigger?
All CD-ROM drives use 680MB disks. That is the current state of technology.
TM> What is the average CD GAME size?
With the exception of 7th Guest, most CD-games run anywhere from 175MB-300MB.
TM> The unit is selling for A$399 and comes with sofware drivers for use
TM> with Windows and plays music CD's.
TM> The guy told me that it's access time is 350ms and is Kodak Photo CD
TM> compatible..(Whatever that is.)
350ms is reasonably fast. Overall, I would say it is a pretty good drive.
Kodak Photo CD is a system highly advertised here in the States. What it is,
is that you can put your 35mm stills on a CD-ROM (actually, have Kodak to
the mastering) and view it on your TV (provided that you have the Kodak
video CD-player) or computer (provided that you have the proper CD-ROM and
software).
--/\/\ike B. (Internet: mbernstein@turbo.kean.edu) from NJ, USA
... All power of fancy over reason is a degree of insanity. - S. Johnson
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From: CHRIS WOOD Number: 2926
To: ROBERTO REYES Date: 09/10/93 12:09p
Subj: Cd-Rom Disk Cache Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RR> The Mitsumi CD-ROM Works with OS/2 2.1
RR> you don't need special drivers?
Yes, you do need special 3rd party drivers. They are Noller drivers and Florida
drivers obtainable by reading the OS2HW echo. I myself have a PAnasonic SCSI
CDROM Drive now and don't have the hasstle of getting Mitsumi drivers that take
forever to come in the mail.
Cheers...
Chris -Team OS/2 - Internet: cwood@hpb.hwc.ca
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 2927
To: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON Date: 09/09/93 11:20a
Subj: Catalogs wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CB=> I love CD software and if some of you out there have ad CDs for sal
CB=>leave me a note and I will tell you where to send it to.
Where do we send it to?
* QMPro 1.50 00-0000 * I'm not as think as you confused I am!
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2928
To: GREG MCDONELL Date: 09/10/93 12:30a
Subj: CD PHOTOS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GM> BTW, do you have a CD called "Global Explorer" .. I think it is
GM> a "zoom to street level" global map. If you know it, does it have
GM> decent quality photo-reproduction maps and panning, and is it
GM> truly global (I'm in Australia)?
Greg,
Yes, we always have them in stock. It has very detailed maps, right down
to street level for the bigger cities, and does cover Australia. In stock
at $93, or we'll meet the lowest price you find in here.
Talk to ya later,
.\\ike
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2929
To: GARY KORPAN Date: 09/10/93 12:30a
Subj: Vancouver? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GK>Mike, are you coming up to the big computer swap meet next Saturday Sept 11
i
GK>Vancouver (actually in Richmond)?
Love to, but we have a car show that weekend. Gonna try for one last
trophy with the Pantera before the snow comes. 8)
Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2930
To: MIKE MORGAN Date: 09/10/93 12:30a
Subj: CD order Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MM>Hello Boris, well it has been over a month now and I still haven't got
MM>the CD's I sent you a money order for. Have you got any news for me it
MM>has been a over a week since my last long distance phone call to you.
Mike,
If you are searching for a certain title, feel free to give us a call toll-
free at 1-800-767-1284. Over 340 titles in stock with fast, same-day
shipping. Give us a call anytime if there is anything we can help you
with.
Later,
.\\ike
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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* SLMR 2.1a * I used to have a life. Now I have Windows.
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2931
To: ALL Date: 09/10/93 12:30a
Subj: NEW CD'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
| Starvector Sales Bulletin #1: NEW CD ARRIVALS |
DINOSAURS! * Fabulous interactive, multimedia Dinosaur directory on CD.$48
DR. MUSIC * Brand new offering loaded with sound and music files.......$20
DR. GAMES * Hours upon hours of gameplaying mayhem! BBS-Ready..........$20
DR. WINDOWS * Games, utilities, productivity, business, it's all here..$20
MICROSOFT BOOKSHELF 1993 * The latest CD-ROM reference library.........$58
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2932
To: ALL Date: 09/10/93 12:30a
Subj: CD-ROM SALE! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
| Starvector Sales Bulletin #4: CD-ROM LIQUIDATION! |
Gigabyte Gold.......$19 Powerpak Gold 3.0...$15 House of Games......$20
Compton's Interact..$95 US Wars: Korea......$29 US Wars: Des. Storm.$29
Original S/W 1993...$10 Phoenix 3.0.........$12 Jedi Collection.....$39
Lion's Share........$19 Clipart Galore......$25 Reel Clips..........$35
Windoware...........$10 Fantazia Fonts/Snds.$22 Ham Radio 3.0.......$10
Return to the Moon..$26 Find-It Webster.....$38 Great Wonders.......$32
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: CHRIS CONKLIN Number: 2933
To: ALL Date: 09/10/93 5:08p
Subj: Macintosh Titles Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
C-3 Production Systems has 31 CD-ROM titles currently in stock. Can't post
them all here now, but if you are interested, give me a call or post a reply
and I'll get you a catalog out.
C-3 Production Systems
PO Box 60144
San Angelo, Tx
76906
915-944-7187
Some include: Shareware/Public Domain/Freeware
World Atlas
CIA Fact Book
US History
Sherlock Holmes
much more!
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From: DAVID CHILDRESS Number: 2934
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/10/93 9:10a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM questions Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-09-93 Leslie Rhorer wrote to David Childress...
Thanks Leslie for your help on my CD-ROM questions!
TTYL,
-_Dave_-
... OFFLINE 1.50 "My other computer is a HAL 9000"
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From: LARRY GUNTER Number: 2935
To: TOM CZACHOR Date: 09/09/93 6:45p
Subj: Sony 535 Problem Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TC>Help... I have two sony 535 Cd-ROM drives. One will read all my disks
TC>SMS 1-2-3 & NightOwl 7-8-9, the second drive doesn't like them all and
TC>ejects them when it can't read them. It is mainly night 8 & SMS 2 I have
TC>the trouble with.
I had similar trouble with one of my 535s and found the solution was to
take it apart and clean the lens. After that, no more read errors.
Being a SYSOP is not a Hobby, it's an Endless JOB! :) Larry
* OLX 2.2 * Where are those flashbacks they promised me?
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From: BOB PAYNE Number: 2936
To: ROBERTO REYES Date: 09/10/93 10:38p
Subj: Cd-Rom Disk Cache Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* In a message originally to Chris Wood, Roberto Reyes said:
> The Mitsumi CD-ROM Works with OS/2 2.1
> you don't need special drivers?
I'd like to know how you do that..??
OS/2 2.1 does not support the Mitsumi Drives.
unless they have came out with a driver in the past 48hrs..
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 2937
To: KEVIN PLUMMER Date: 09/10/93 1:02a
Subj: Busty Babes Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Kevin!
08 Sep 93, Kevin Plummer writes to Pat Rickerson:
PR>> This CD has been going for as much as $450 so lets make a deal before
PR>> it is gone. Pat
KP> Busty babes going for $450.00 ?? I paid $25.00 for mine. ?? What gives
?
Well you sure are lucky. Do you know if it is the collector's item? Mine is!
Pat
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From: KIN NG Number: 2938
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/09/93 3:18p
Subj: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
I agree with your assessment and continue with the good work.
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 2939
To: RACHEL REPSTAD Date: 09/08/93 5:31a
Subj: TALK Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Hey, are you playing an adventure now? I was thinking about getting i
-> conquests of camelot or something like that. If you'd like to play to
-> know.
Hi Rachel!,
Well, I'm still working on Dagger of Amon Ra... <g>
I got to the end, figured out the murderer and the dagger thief, but it
says not enough evidence, and didn't interrogate the witnesses enough..
Soooo, I end up like really bloody Swiss Cheese.. <g>
I've had my computer since '90 so byt the time I got going into
adventures, Sierra quit producing the EGA based games.
Luckily, I manged to collect ALL the SQ's first! THAT is my favorite
series!
ooops, managed... <g> Anyhow, I want to get Betrayal at Krondor, now
this is a cool game!
Anyhow, what's Biomenace? Never heard of it. Do you like Wing Commander?
That is my favorite computer game hands down! It has a ice mix of FRP
with all the arcade/simulation you can muster!
TTYL<
Henry
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From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 2940
To: PETER SAMULEVICH Date: 09/11/93 12:45a
Subj: Hitachi Drivers for OS/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Peter Samulevich wrote in a message to All:
PS> Does anyone have the drivers for the Hitachi 1700S? I
PS> would be more than happy to call your board and d/l
PS> them, or FREQ them from you. As it stands right now, I
PS> have to use a VDM to use the CD-ROM and there's a lot of
PS> software that I really cannot use because of this. HELP!!!
The only place I know that these are available is from Todd
Enterprise for $45. 717-343-1040 is their number.
Maker sure these drivers will work with the 1700S. I know they work with 3500,
3600 and 3700 internal models.
»Let us be glad and rejoice, for the marriage of the Lamb is come,(Rev. 19:7)«
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From: RJ KULMAN Number: 2941
To: ROBERT PROHL Date: 09/08/93 8:06p
Subj: MSCDEX Woes Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RP>However, I keep getting "illegal parameter" or some such nonsense when
RP>autoexec encounters that line.. what the hey? Can it be done?
RP>
DEVICE=C:\FDCD.SYS /D:MSCD000 (your config.sys file must have this)
..........
C:\MSCDEX.EXE /E /V /D:MSCD000 /M:10
.......... your autoexec.bat file must have this
both of these files must state the SAME (drive) letter. You can make it
anything you want.
you may also want to add the statement:
LASTDRIVE=Z
this way you can use any of of the 26 letters !! that already have NOT
be designated as either floppy or physical drives
* KingQWK 1.05 * I object to sex on TV, I keep falling off!
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From: RJ KULMAN Number: 2942
To: BRUCE CLAUNCH Date: 09/09/93 7:17p
Subj: NEC cd-37 lockup Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BC>Thanks for the info, but still no help.
BC>I have all that was said, changed slots and watch for power interuption
have you considering the terminators as a possibility ?? (only if SCSI)
* KingQWK 1.05 * "Not tonight honey..I have a modem."
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From: RJ KULMAN Number: 2943
To: COLIN BELL Date: 09/09/93 7:22p
Subj: Re: Drive speed Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BO>>> I am considering putting a scsi cd rom drive online on my BBS.
BO>>> I don't 4BO>>> have to be sure that it will be able to keep up with
people
BO>>> downloading. My modem is 14400 BPS & the serial port is locked
Colin
consider this internal scsi drive
IBM / Toshiba Internal CD-ROM #3101 1/2Ht SCSI $199
150K Transfer Rate 250ms
These were recently replaced by the current double spin 3401's
RJ Kulman 718 968 9167
* KingQWK 1.05 * 90% of being smart is knowing what you're dumb at.
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From: CARLOS BENITZ Number: 2944
To: DAVE REED Date: 09/10/93 12:27p
Subj: Southern Beauties Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DR>"piss contest" have to do with that? Go back to your
DR>corner, and stay there until you learn how to be a good boy.
DR>... "Sleeping with the Enemy" -- Starring William J. Clinton
I'm sick of reading crap like this (from everyone). Do you think
it enhances your reputation as a dealer to bicker with people?
If you can't talk about CDROMS, go somewhere else!
* SLMR 2.1 * Don't blame the tool for the murderer's work.
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From: CARLOS BENITZ Number: 2945
To: SCOTT CONDER Date: 09/10/93 12:32p
Subj: Mitsumi CD ROM Drive; So Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SC>1) Can I access audio CD's with only the interface card
SC>that comes with the drive?
You don't need anything special to access audio, except you'll
want headphones or external speakers, audio cd's don't play
through the pc speaker.
SC>2) Is the supplied interface card all I need to access such ROM's as
SC>encyclopedias, etc., or will I need a sound card? In
SC>particular, will I have to have a sound board to access
SC>sound files and graphics in an encyclopedia?
A sound card will not help graphics. A sound card will help
playing sound files. Whether a sound card is necessary, I think,
depends on the encyclopdia.
SC>4) If I get a sound card with a SCSI port built in, will
SC>the SCSI port work with the Mitsumi drive and allow me to
SC>get rid of the drive's dedicated IF?
No. The LU005 Mitsumi is not a SCSI drive, so a SCSI controller
will not control it. (The LU005 uses a unique control format.)
* SLMR 2.1 * "Sweet land of liberty?" Not.
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From: DAVID CHANDLER Number: 2946
To: ALL Date: 09/10/93 4:03a
Subj: Cd rom manufacturers Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Who manufacturers CD-Roms and how much does the process cost? I am a
software author and have a program with data enough to fill a CD. Any
leads?
--David Chandler
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From: FRANCOIS DESROSIERS Number: 2947
To: ALL Date: 09/09/93 10:04p
Subj: Sound card Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am a little but just a little off-topic....
I want to buy a sound card but I see that some offer a CD-ROM
connection.
For now I use a Roland CD-ROM (seem to be the same thing that a
Panasonic) that is connected to a SCSI card.
What is the advantage to connect a CD-ROM with a sound card or the
disavantages to not connect it!
Will I loose something if my CD-ROM is not connected to the sound card.
Thanks
Francois
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From: MICHAEL GRAY Number: 2948
To: MIKE AVILA Date: 09/10/93 11:25p
Subj: Smartdrv as cache Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have just downloaded the smartdrive version you mentioneed and it does not
cach CD_ROM's. In fact in the documents included it says the new version is
slower than the one that comes with DOS 6. Well, I guess we will just have to
keep waiting :(
Internet : MIKEG@MINTIR.NEW-ORLEANS.LA.US.
Fido-Net : Michael Gray @ 1:396/11
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From: LEN GLADSTONE Number: 2949
To: RON YOUNG Date: 09/09/93 7:24p
Subj: Creative labs # Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RY>Anyone have the phone number for creative labs bbs here in the US?
Their new Number is (405) 742-6660 BBS & (405) 742-6622 tech support. They
recently moved their BBS to Oklahoma from California! Customer Service is still
(800) [998-5227 & 998-1000].
Len Gladstone
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From: DEBBIE MARANTZ Number: 2950
To: MICHAEL GEGGUS Date: 09/10/93 1:00a
Subj: Re: BEGINING... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thanks for the info on the 562b and over the last month there have been some
interesting things happening in my retail area. For one there is a local dealer
who has the 562b for $360 Cdn, which when you factor in the exchange rate is a
fair price. The second is that I managed to have a pretty fair deal fall into
my lap. Up here, north of the 49th, CD prices have been for the most part on
the high side. Well, a local dealer was selling a Sony C31a for $250, where as
a discount chain who advertises "if any one beats our prices you get 55% of the
difference or it is yours free", well, they had the 31a listing for $449, so I
ended up getting the 31a for $140, which is not so bad. Yes I know it is slow,
but for now it will just be a throw away. So when the CD tech really starts to
heat up, and it looks like CD/IDE and quadra spin will be the next major tech
leaps then it won't really be much of a loss. And with local bus VGA, so far I
have had no real problems with the mega monsters like T7G.
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From: DOUG DAGGER Number: 2951
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 09/10/93 10:33p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I had wriiten to you asking if the Mitsumi 350ms CD-ROm had good graphics.
I was also asking if you though it was slow.
If anyone else can to answer my question, feel free.
s
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From: ROY COCHRUN Number: 2952
To: HEATHER KRAUSE Date: 09/10/93 5:06p
Subj: Re: Creative labs # Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Heather, because you posted the -6660 number (I had -6668, which quit
answering a couple weeks ago), I was able to get the NEW Creative Labs
number. The number you had gives the new number and its location, then
hangs you up. It is in Stillwater, Texas, and is 1-405-742-6660.
(They like that 6660 number, don't they?) -- regards, Roy Cochrun
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From: ROY COCHRUN Number: 2953
To: ALL Date: 09/10/93 5:07p
Subj: New creative labs # Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Creative Labs has a new number. It is located in Stillwater, Texas,
and is 1-405-742-6660. -- regards, Roy Cochrun
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From: ROY COCHRUN Number: 2954
To: ALL Date: 09/10/93 5:22p
Subj: More c.labs #S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Well, first, it is Stillwater, Oklahoma, not the state to the south.
Sorry about that (is there a Stillwater, Texas?)
...
The new number is 14,400 bps, 8n1. The other new support numbers for
Creative Labs are: 1-405-742-6622 (voice) and 1-405-742-6633 (Fax).
If you participate in their beta test program, you must either fax bug
reports to them or mail them to: Creative Labs Inc., Attn: WinNT
Support, 1523 Cimarron Plaza, Stillwater, Oklahoma 74075.
...
regards, Roy Cochrun
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From: CHIP MORROW Number: 2955
To: ALL Date: 09/10/93 5:36p
Subj: El Cheapo CD disks gone Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
FYI - The five el cheapo CDROM disks that I advertised yesterday
(Hall of Fame, two game CD's, a sampler, and Natl. Geo. Mammals)
were all sold here locally about 10 minutes ago. Thanks.
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From: ELVIS CHOW Number: 2956
To: ALL Date: 09/10/93 3:21p
Subj: CDROM Purchase Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am thinking of buying a CDROM but at a little disadvantage in knowing what is
available and the type of prices I can expect to find. Hopefully I can glean
some info here to help. Here's the spec's I need to adhere to:
- must be EXTERNAL as it must be shared between two machines
- must work under OS2 and DOS/WINDOWS
- cannot cost an arm and leg (or any other parts <g>)
- need some sort of sort card again to go with both systems
- good reference encyclopedia type ref (for my kids)
Any and all ideas are appreciated. I realize the CDROM for OS2 might narrow
things somewhat and the costs might be too high but I figured might as well see
what is around. I would even consider two complete CDROMS (to avoid moving
around) as long as they are reasonable enough for me to afford (especially if
one costs as much as two of another brand). Okay all you CD wizzes, so what is
available?
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 2957
To: PAUL LAWRENCE Date: 09/10/93 12:46p
Subj: LOOKING FOR USED CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PL=>HELLO ANYONE THAT HAS A SHAREWARE CD THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO GET RID OF JUS
PL=>WRITE ME OR CALL ME AT SPLINTERS! MULTI-BBS AT 813-458-5399 AND LEAVE ME A
PL=>MESSAGE AND I WILL GET BACK TO YOU THANX .
I can get you any CD you want, give me your mailing address and i'll
send you a list.
Adrian Salas
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 2958
To: TRAVIS MOGNET Date: 09/10/93 1:12p
Subj: NightOwl 9 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TM=> So, Who Where When and all that sorta stuff might I find NightOwl 9 ?
TM=> Travis Mognet
Right here $29.00 plus $5 S/H.
Send Order to:
****** AS ROMS ******
2434 East 32nd Street,
National City, CA 91950
* QMPro 1.50 00-0000 * We're professionals. Do NOT try this at home.
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From: PETER RALLIS Number: 2959
To: DAVE REED Date: 09/10/93 6:17a
Subj: Your Tagline Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Good show!
peter...
... Tony Stott: The first Aussie born without a sense of humor.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2960
To: MATTHEW THOMPSON Date: 09/08/93 12:34p
Subj: ISO 9660 WANTED CHEAP :) Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>I'm working on a freeware program to read the CD-ROM files with a SCSI driver
>package I'm working on... but I don't have the $60+ that ISO wants for a bona
>fide copy of the ISO 9660. Does anybody know where I could get the info on
the
>cheap somehow
Thom Hogan's "PC Programmer's Referance" has that data buried away in it
somewhere, in a minimalist format....
* SLMR 2.1a * Tresspassers will be shot. Survivors will be shot again!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2961
To: JOE SLIFER Date: 09/09/93 4:16p
Subj: CD-ROM HELP Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>An 8-bit card comes with a *double* speed drive? How does this affect the
>drives performance?
Likely not at all - you're only talking 300Kbytes/second, after all - WELL
within the capabilities of an 8 bit card (I've heard of an 8 bit RLL card
that would handle appx. 350K/sec, and the 8-bit Silicon Valley IDE card will
handle ballpark 500-600K by report)....
* SLMR 2.1a * We're staying together for the sake of the Cats....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2962
To: MATT CHAPMAN Date: 09/09/93 4:19p
Subj: NON MM CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Can anyone point out a CD-ROM drive (ide) that is suited for non multimedia
>uses.
Nope - there are exactly ZERO CD-ROMs with an IDE interface to date - and due
to the severe limitations of the IDE interface, I doubt that anyone will ever
come out with such a drive.
> ie: does not require a sound card (such as the prop SB), reasonably cheap,
Mitsumi bundles a controller card with their drives - propriatary interface,
though, that (at least currently) can't chain more than one drive per card. The
price is about the lowest on the market, though.
You might be better off with one of the Panasonic double-spin drives though,
with the Panasonic propriatary interface (they also bundle a card with that
particular version of the drive(s) in question)....
* SLMR 2.1a * Sorry, my Karma ran over your Dogma....
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From: MIKE AVILA Number: 2963
To: JOHNM OSBORNE Date: 09/09/93 5:32p
Subj: Pro Audio Studio 16XL Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm not going to quote your message and questions about the PAStudio16xl as
this is not directly related to that.
Just want you (and others) to know that Media Vision is a good buy. The WSJ
had an article yesterday that stated Apple Computer is offering multimedia
upgrade kits and choose to use MV chips in its product. Another plus for MV.
It won the Editors Choice award over SB a couple of months back.
I have the PAStudio16 and I love it.
Mike
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From: MIKE AVILA Number: 2964
To: DANIEL PRINCE Date: 09/09/93 5:38p
Subj: 16-bit sound cards Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
*** Quoting Daniel Prince to All dated 09-05-93 ***
> Does anyone know exactly what the difference is between the Sound
> Blaster 16 and the ASP version? What is the difference between
> the Pro Audio Spectrum and Studio?
>
> He found a review of the Pro Audio Spectrum 16 that said that to
> make it Sound Blaster compatible you have to run a driver
> program. Does anyone know how big this driver is and if it
> can be loaded high? Thank you in advance for all replies.
The difference between the Spectrum and the Studio is less distortion, better
sound, and SCSI-1 (Spectrum) and SCSI-2 (Studio). I have the Studio and love
it. I have it hooked up to a Texel external CD-ROM and I have no problems at
all.
Most sound cards need a driver to mimick (sp?) another sound card. I have the
MVSOUND.SYS driver loaded high with 386MAX. I am having some problems with
386MAX but cannot trace it to the driver. I just looked at a memory map and it
shows 11K. (I am using Windows so it is not loaded high now so size may vary
slightly.) I have not found anything yet that is SB that the PAS16 won't run.
That is not to say it will absolutely run everything. Just to say mainline
stuff should not be a problem. Also, the SCSI drive is standard, not special.
Mike
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From: MIKE AVILA Number: 2965
To: ROBERT PROHL Date: 09/09/93 5:43p
Subj: MSCDEX Woes Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
*** Quoting Robert Prohl to All dated 09-06-93 ***
> Hey people.. gotta question..
>
> Recently I installed another hard drive for my BBS and configured it as
> the Slave drive, designation D. Since there is a specific variable for
> teh CD rom extension in the Config and Autoexec files, I figured I
> could
> just change this to reconfigure the CD as E....
>
> However, I keep getting "illegal parameter" or some such nonsense when
> autoexec encounters that line.. what the hey? Can it be done?
Just quickly off the top of my head, do you have a last drive parameter set in
CONFIG.SYS? Also, when you install software it may code a drive letter in some
software system type file. Also, have you coordinated the CD-ROM driver and
the MSCDEX parm lines? I just looked and my driver does not have a drive line
but it does have a "code" on it. Has it changed in any way?
Hope this helps along with others ideas. If not, post more info on what the
config.sys and autoexec.bat lines for the driver and mscdex look like.
Mike
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 2966
To: VICTOR ZDANOWICZ Date: 09/10/93 5:12a
Subj: Re: Aust CD Seller. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 07 Sep 93 14:59:00, I heard Victor Zdanowicz shout to All:
VZ> Can anyone tell me about a good CD-ROM distributer?... I am moslty interset
VZ> in Cd's filled with vga 1024x768 grahpic's......... gifs.
VZ>
VZ> Vz thanks..
Yes, if you send me your info, I will have them get in touch with you.
.....|<evin
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From: CHRIS MOORE Number: 2967
To: STEVE PROCTOR Date: 09/09/93 12:48p
Subj: MITSUMI OS/2 DRIVER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Steve
> How does one order the OS/2 CDROM Driver for the Mitsumi CDROM?
> I am interested in purchasing it.
I have a copy on my BBS. If the BBS you're using lets you FREQ files, please
feel free to request it from me (1:244/110). It's called OS2_LU.ZIP.
Chris
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From: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON Number: 2968
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/10/93 9:46p
Subj: Re: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* I would like more info on the 562B / 563 Panasonic CD-ROM dirve *
=======================================
I know it is multisession Kodak Photo CD compatible ( I hope ) but are drivers
available from Panasonic for it to work under OS/2 2.1 at the moment that you
know of? Could you possibly if possible find out where in Canada this drive is
available because none of the local dealers know or ever heard of the existence
of this particular model...
=======================================
If it is more convenient for you or your members, my fax # will be available on
tuesday sept. 14 at 819-682-9503...
=======================================
Chris
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From: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON Number: 2969
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/10/93 9:50p
Subj: Re: Panasonic CDR-63 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Let me know how this driver works for you under OS/2 2.1... I am really
considering to buy this particular model drive...
Chris
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From: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON Number: 2970
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 09/10/93 10:18p
Subj: Space Quest 4 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
There is no difference whatsoever between the 562B and 563 as I read in this
echo. The 563 if the sales # for Creative Labs which represents the 562B...
Chris
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From: RACHEL REPSTAD Number: 2971
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 09/08/93 6:35p
Subj: games Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I don't think I have the original disks. I'd love to get passed that copy
protection. I'll keep trying! Did you know that this BBS is shutting down?!
BUMMER! I don't know when but I know it will shut down. I hope I can keep in
touch with you. I have a BBS. I'm in Sheldon, VT and the number is 933-2417. If
this board is down just call mine if you can I hope it's not long distance!
Great to hear from you again. L8R
--Rachel
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From: JEFF WEISS Number: 2972
To: ALL Date: 09/10/93 8:51a
Subj: ** Make your own CD-ROM! ** Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DON'T BUY THAT NEW HARD DRIVE UNTIL YOU'VE READ THIS.
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From: STEVE GERWECK Number: 2973
To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 09/09/93 6:34p
Subj: CD caddies Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Doug,
I did purchase my copy of Busty Babes from your company. Do you have some
sort of catalog? I thought they would send me one with the disk. (I'll
enclose my address in my tagline). I'm wondering you have some good prices
on CD-caddies? Quote me your price with shipping and handling. Thanks..
Steve
... Steve Gerweck, 530 Concetta Drive, Monroe, MI 48161-3542
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From: MIKE YOUNG Number: 2974
To: JEFF CUTLER Date: 09/10/93 6:46p
Subj: Re: Smartdrv as cache Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JC> Hello William!
JC> 02 Sep 93 23:13, William Schneider, Jr. wrote to All:
JC> WSJ> But it didn't work. I even tried to do it without the
JC> '+', but it still WSJ> won't go. I know, a lot of people will
JC> tell me to use another cache WSJ> program, but I bought DOS 6
JC> for all the new features, and can't stand any WSJ> of them, so
JC> I gotta get my money back out of it somehow! By the way, I:
JC> WSJ> is the drive letter for my CD-ROM. Thanks in advance!
JC> Chow!
JC> I can't be sure but i know that Some CD Rom Device Drivers
JC> tell DOS to treat the CD-Rom Drive as a Network Drive.
JC> SMARTDRV probably won't let you use it on a Network drive (It
JC> isn't really but DOS thinks so.)
While dos 6 has alot of nice new features disk caching via
smartdrv.exe is not one of them. However I have just found out
that microsoft has released and updated version of smartdrv.exe
the new version is 4.2 and is dos 6 compatible only. And as far
as I know can only be found on Internet. I have d/led it but
had a crc check sum error when I unzipped it and was unable to
use it. If you get a good working copy please let me know. I
would love to have it.
For anyone else interested this file can be found on
Internet at the following location.
it is found on wuarchives in the msdos/microsoft directory the
full path is as follows.
/systems/ibmpc/msdos/microsoft/pd0805.zip
The file should include:
readme.txt 2958 jun 18
smartdrv.exe 42585 jun 9
smartdrv.txt 909 jun 16
Later mike young
JC> Jeff
JC> --- GoldED 2.41
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JC> (1:247/312)
Mike Young
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From: FORREST ALDRICH Number: 2975
To: GORDON GREEN Date: 09/10/93 1:48p
Subj: SDN, etc. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
If ever I were to decide to run a BBS, how would I access the files from
SDN/UTILNET, etc., for my own (other than having to directly download
them all from you (not at 2400 baud for sure! :)
Forrest
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2976
To: LEE NOGA Date: 09/11/93 3:06a
Subj: Re: Southern Beauties Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> In a message to Lee Noga <09-06-93 09:57> Ismail Arslangiray
>> wrote:
IA>>> Seems like both of your disk have legal problems and there is an
IA>>> apperent piss contest. I am sorry but you guys need to handle your
IA>>> own problems. I was only helping to another echo participant.
>> It's not about 'Piss' dear friend, its about a creditability
>> issue with you marketing a selling point of a disc that is not
>> true--Informing sysops that the disc is BBS ready only makes
>> you look silly when they return it to you when they realize
>> that the disc is prohibited on the BBS--So all I was trying to
>> do is save you some embarrassment, realizing that you might
>> not have known-- All I was doing was helping a distributor
>> correct some misleading information--Next time I will consider
>> the source, and perhaps piss in your cornflakes too :) You
>> annoy me ! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Normally I never get involved, but this I gota see !!!!!
What's this echo coming too....grin -:)
Boris Osadciw
... What Bug! I left behind the roaches in New York!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2977
To: ALL Date: 09/11/93 3:06a
Subj: ALL NEW CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
))))))))))))) SHAREWARE ONLINE #2 IS NOW SHIPPING ((((((((((((
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of only the best shareware from 1993 - Six different file
formats for use with every major BBS - All lists have been
searched, cleaned, and recompiled for quality !
This is the ULTIMATE in BBS CDs!
Price - $35.00
ORDERS US/CANADA 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
... What Bug! I left behind the roaches in New York!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2978
To: ALL Date: 09/11/93 3:06a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
**************** C D - R O M D R I V E P R I C E S ****************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit - $359.00 Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00 - SCSI
Panasonic 562 Int Kit - $289.00 Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SCSI
Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $799.00 Pioneer DMR604X Bare - $1199. -SCSI
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00 Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00 -SCSI
Texel Int Complete Kit - $469.00 Texel Ext Complete - $569.00 -SCSI
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare - $439.00 Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare- $569.00 -SCSI
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit - $195.00 Mitsumi w/Sound Card - $325.00 -PRPR
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. / Windows v1. $50. ALL ChestNuts CD's $10.00ec
ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
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From: MARC CIRCOSTA Number: 2979
To: WAYNE MAJORS Date: 09/08/93 12:49p
Subj: ELIST Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-05-1993, WAYNE MAJORS wrote...
WM> For those concerned about the removal of this echo from the
WM> ELIST.. I took care of it..
WM>
WM> The following if from a message I received to day from the ELIST
WM> node...
WM>
WM> *************************
WM> Area Tag CDROM addition successful!
WM> This entry will be published in The International EchoList edition
WM> 310 scheduled for release 1-Oct-93.
WM> Fear not.... we are alive and on the backbone.. :-)
WM>
WM> L8r.... - Wayne -
Well done son...
Marc.
Hey, Ponca city, I KNOW WHERE THAT IS!
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From: MARC CIRCOSTA Number: 2980
To: SAM JONES Date: 09/08/93 12:58p
Subj: Re: Photo CD Software Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-04-1993, KEN UHRICK wrote...
KU> SJ> I have a Panasonic 562-b CD-ROM drive and I would like to know
KU> SJ> what software is available in order to let me view Kodak Photo CD's.
KU> SJ> Is there a shareware prgram avaiable? I have seen one prgram (by
KU> SJ> Kodak) but it was a DOS program and my video card (SSPro VL) was not
KU> SJ> supported so I guess that I wold not be able to get the 16 mill. color
KU> SJ> mode so a Windows version would be nice, is there a Windows version,
KU> SJ> and how much is it?
I *think* that the new version of Coreldraw (there up to ver 4 now)
has a feature to read the files off a KODAK PHOTO CD. But, I ain't seen
one in action, so don't really know how the whole thing works....
interesting though.
Marc.
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From: ARISTEDES MANIATIS Number: 2981
To: ALL Date: 09/07/93 2:20a
Subj: CD ROM recorder Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for someone with a CD ROM recorder to write about 300 Mb to a CD.
I know that the recorders are available for under $10,000. I am able to supply
the files on 88Mb Syquest cartridges and I would be willing to pay a reasonably
amount to have the CD made.
I would appreciate any information whatsoever - please forward it to me via
netmail as well as in this echo.
Thank you,
Ari
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From: CHRIS PATTEN Number: 2982
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/10/93 11:52a
Subj: ECHO CHANGES Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
* In a message originally to Bob Jackson, Bob Hall said:
CC>BJ>I think your ideas for both this and the "for sale" echo are right
CC>BJ>on target, Bob. I support you and Tim agreeing to make this switch on
CC>BJ>Oct. 1.
CC>Thanks for your support.
CC>BOB
Well as another Aussie and friend of Tony Stott the supplier of Aussie chocs
to the US I would hate to see the small 10 lines advrts disappear as they are
informative to us downunder deprived(maybe depraved) CD users.
Chris
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From: CHRIS PATTEN Number: 2983
To: AL KOLLER Date: 09/10/93 11:44a
Subj: Bbs Cds Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CP>Try a new shareware program called CD ACCESS by Corry MacFarlane.
Is CD ACCESS the magic name? I really need a program like this and
want to file request it from Sydney Australia.
Thanks in adavance for a reply.
Chris
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2984
To: MICHAEL COOPER Date: 09/10/93 7:58p
Subj: Cr562b Cd-rom Drive Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Mike!
On 09-08-93 Michael Cooper wrote to All...
MC> Anyone know where I can get a Panasonic CR-562-B CD-ROM Drive
MC> (internal) with AT buss card. I do NOT need a sound card, I
MC> already have one. Also would be interested in a bundle with
MC> some CD's. Sydney area.
Ring Nick Agosta at Osborne Computers, Sydney... Ask for a CD200 kit...
that's Osborne's version of the CR562B/8bit paddle card/cables/CD-ROM
driver.... If you have an SB Pro or better, the CR562B will connect
directly to the CR562B.... specify /sbp:220 on the device=cdmke.sys
line in CONFIG.SYS and you're away.....
I don't know of anyone doing a CD-ROMdrive/paddle card/CD-ROM bundle,
most of this stuff is done as an MM U/G kit... complete with sound card!
Cheers!
o
/U\
... OFFLINE 1.52
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2985
To: DAVID WINGER Date: 09/10/93 8:01p
Subj: Panasonic 562B + SB mono Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi David!
On 09-08-93 David Winger wrote to Alan Whitemore...
DW> On 09-05-93 Alan Whitemore wrote to All...
DW>
DW> AW> Is there any trick to setting up a Panasonic 562B CD-ROM with a
DW> AW> Mono 8 bit SB card?
DW>
DW> I have the same problem.
DW> Let me know if you find a solution.
The only solution possible is to sell the 8-bit SB 1.5/2.0 card and buy
an SB Pro/16/16 ASP.....
Why???
Because the SB 1.5/2.0 do not have an on-board mixer to allow line-in to
be transferred to the speakers.... Line-in on the SB 1.5/2.0 is for
recording purposes only!
Please don't shoot! I'm only the messenger! <g>
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2986
To: ERIC ESKAM Date: 09/10/93 8:10p
Subj: Panasonic Cr-523b Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Eric!
On 09-07-93 Eric Eskam wrote to All...
EE> I am using the above drive with the 8 bit card, but I don't have
EE> drivers.
Should have come with the drive/paddle card, otherwise they're just
expensive paperweights!
EE> Could someone please hint at which drivers I would need (filename if
EE> possible) and where to get them (BBS, Panasonic, etc.).
I'd suggest you ring your local Panasonic distributor.... the file you
desperately need is CDMKE.SYS (sometimes CDMKEnnn.SYS, where nnn is
numerals representing the version # of the driver!).... Latest release
is Version 4.11 I believe.....
The other possibility is the Creative Labs driver, SBCD.SYS.... But I'm
not sure (haven't tried!) whether it will see the 8 bit paddle card...
EE> The tech support person for this
EE> particular CD ROM drive is real difficult to get ahold of -
EE> I have been playing telephone tag with him for several days, so
EE> if I could find away around him I would be very happy!
Tag him with a baseball bat! It will hurt more than the telephone....
BTW, you don't say whether you have a sound card.... If you're looking,
I'd suggest the SB 16 ASP.... It will allow you to connect your CD-ROM
drive directly to the sound card and provide you with an alternate
source for your needed device driver!
Cheers & Beers!
o
/U\
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From: POE LIM Number: 2987
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/11/93 12:52a
Subj: Q'S On These New Panason Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Rowan,
On Sep 05 14:26 in a msg to Brice Fleckenstein, Rowan Evans of 3:711/413 wrote:
> Tell everyone to look for the Panasonic CR503 as the SCSI version of
> the CR562B/CR563.....
>
> But they are hard to find! (I haven't been able to source one!)
According to the Aust distributor, they will not be released 'till close to
Christmas (in Aust anyway).
Cheers,
Poe
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From: LAURIE BATT Number: 2988
To: ROBERT PROHL Date: 09/09/93 9:12a
Subj: MSCDEX Woes Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
G'day Robert, In a message on <Sep 06>, you said :
RP> However, I keep getting "illegal parameter" or some such
RP> nonsense when autoexec encounters that line.. what the hey?
RP> Can it be done?
Of course it can be done.
But I and others cant answer your question properly without knowing what you
included on the line that says illegal parameter.
Post a copy of your autoexec.bat and you will have a better chance of getting
your problem solved. When asking these kind questions it pays to include as
much information as possible so your problem can be evaluated and solved
easily.
Your question is a bit like saying.... my computer is not working please tell
me what is wrong with it.
Laurie
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From: SEAN TUDOR Number: 2989
To: MICHAEL COOPER Date: 09/10/93 8:03a
Subj: Re: Cr562b Cd-rom Drive Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> and Michael Cooper was heard mumbling to All <=-
Hi Michael,
MC> For Australian Readers only.
MC> Anyone know where I can get a Panasonic CR-562-B CD-ROM Drive
MC> (internal) with AT buss card. I do NOT need a sound card, I already
MC> have one. Also would be interested in a bundle with some CD's.
MC> Sydney area.
The Games Wizards Parramatta Rd Granville sells the COMPRO Classic Mutlimedia
Kit which includes an AT BUS card, Panasonic/Matsushita CR-562-B with
cables and comes with SQ4 and KQ5. The RRP is $599 but you should be able
to get it much cheaper than this.
Cya,
Sean.
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From: LOONG CHUNG Number: 2990
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/05/93 11:28a
Subj: Re: Panasonic CDR-63 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Rowan Evans to Loong Chung <=-
RE> Hi Loong!
RE>
RE> Interesting point, the CR562B/CR563 returns better throughput figuers
RE> when attached to an SB CD-ROM connector than when attached to the
RE> supplied 8-bit paddle card. It could be due to different electronics,
RE> etc on the SB, but could also be due to the 16-bit connector on the
RE> SB Pro/16/16 ASP....
RE> Cheers!
Hi Rowan
Which of the Creative Labs Combo pack comes with the CR563? and how many CD's
and which SoundBlaster does it come with? How much?
Thanks
Loong
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From: VICTOR ZDANOWICZ Number: 2991
To: ALL Date: 09/10/93 6:25p
Subj: Checking CD activity Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone know of a way to check if the CD-ROM is playing an Audio CD?... I
want to be able to stop the CD-rom from re-initialzing after a warm boot, if
there is already an Audio CD playing...
Thanks Vz...
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From: KEN KIRKLEY Number: 2992
To: COLIN BELL Date: 09/09/93 8:36a
Subj: Re: Drive speed Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BO>>> I am considering putting a scsi cd rom drive online on my BBS.
BO>>> I don't 4 really want to spend too much on the drive but I
BO>>> have to be sure that it will be able to keep up with people
BO>>> downloading. My modem is 14400 BPS & the serial port is locked
Hi Colin,
I am no expert on CDROM's, but my understanding is that the speed (500ms
or whatever) is the access time for findng a given file. In reality this
does not affect the download time. I have a 800ms Tandy CDR-1000 and it
works great on my BBS. All of file listings are on my hard drive,
therefore when someone searches for files they are not accessing the
ROM. Once they select a file to transfer, then the ROM is accessed and
copied to the hard drive for downloading. This is where the Transfer
Rate affects the process. Mine is 150 kb/sec (pretty standard, though
some of the newer ones are faster). Only takes a bit for the transfer to
the hard drive unless it is an unusually large file or several tagged
files. Have never had any complints about the speed either way. I
average about 300 downloads per month from the one ROM. Hope this info
helps with your decision.
Ken
btw, I am new to this conference and look forward to "lurking" around.
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From: ED TURNOCK Number: 2993
To: ED YEE Date: 09/10/93 7:05p
Subj: What is "MPC-compatible system"? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Would you believe that the people at "Power Up" coulden't come up with an
answer. You seem to know so if you could give me a little more detail, enough
to determine if I am complient, I would appreciate it.
For information, I have a 486DX/33 with a 340M hard disk, about 500M with
STACKER. My CDROM drive is one of DAKs $199 specials which have a unique
controller, they are not SCSI. I have a standard VGA display, and a couple of
diskettes.
Any Help appreciated.
Ed
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From: MARC STANTON Number: 2994
To: TRAVIS MOGNET Date: 09/11/93 2:20a
Subj: RE: NightOwl 9 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
So, Who Where When and all that sorta stuff might I find NightOwl 9 ?
Travis Mognet
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From: J HAYES Number: 2995
To: TERRY MARRS Date: 09/11/93 2:40a
Subj: THIS BBS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MY FIRST LOG-ON HERE. BEEN NICE. I SEEM TO HAVE GOT LOST IN THE MESSAGES AND
HAVE RUN OUT OF TIME. COULDN'T GO WITHOUT SAYING "THANKS."
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From: PAUL SWIDER Number: 2996
To: FRANCOIS DESROSIERS Date: 09/11/93 8:35a
Subj: Sound card Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-09-93 FRANCOIS DESROSIERS wrote to ALL...
FD> What is the advantage to connect a CD-ROM with a sound card or the
FD> disavantages to not connect it!
FD> Will I loose something if my CD-ROM is not connected to the sound
FD> card.
Francois, the advantage of connecting a CDROM to the sound card is you
only use one slot in your computer instead of two. The main thing to be
concerned with is the type of controller the sound card has on it for
the CDROM. The Pro Audio Spectrum (PAS) series has an SCSI controller on
it and you can use any SCSI CDROM drive with the proper drivers. The
Sound Blaster series (SB***) has there own type of controller and this
limits the selection of drives you can use with their cards. As for other
sound cards make sure to check out the type of controller the sound card
you decide on has. >Paul<
... OFFLINE 1.50 "Knowing Murphy's law won't help either."
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From: STEVE RUDOLPH Number: 2997
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/10/93 7:03a
Subj: SPECIAL CD-ROM PRICES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
How's about a catalog:
1-8-48-402 Horinouchi
Suginami-ku, Tokyo
166 Japan
In particular I am looking for a multimedia package, music composition
software (which allows for composition-- I have no midi-interface or
keyboard), a good sound file disk, and True Type font package.
Any suggestions
* OLX 2.1 TD * I'm in shape ... round's a shape isn't it?
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From: MAHMUT KURSUN Number: 2998
To: LEE WINSOR Date: 09/09/93 1:53p
Subj: Shareware Explorer - 4 pa Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> S H A R E W A R E E X P L O R E R - 4 V O L U M E S E T
> The hottest selling CD-ROM at this years ONE BBSCON!
> John Dvorak, of PC magazine picked one up and said:
> "Wow, I've never seen a four pack CD-ROM like this
> before... This is nice!"
I wont buy it if it is not Jerry Pournelle :-)
bye
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From: MAHMUT KURSUN Number: 2999
To: ALL Date: 09/10/93 12:07a
Subj: whats this? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I cant believe it. Friend of mine visit the ONEBBSCON in Colorado a
week ago and all he could bring me was a box of candy? From Lee Noga?!
He told me about real awesome Sysopdeal prices. Spend every penny on
CDROMs and TBBS add-ons.
bye
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From: SAM BECKWITH Number: 3000
To: ALL Date: 09/11/93 2:35p
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DFW Discount Electronics 09/11/93 Orders: 800-829-0331
Local : 214-254-0331
CD-ROM Price List BBS : 214-259-4188
* = Indicates file listing available for download via our BBS
CD-ROM Drive
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mitsumi Int. CD-ROM 350ms Kit w/adapter (non-SCSI) 187.00
Shareware
~~~~~~~~~
* CLIPART GOLIATH (4/93 by Chestnut): Over 11,000 PCX, TIF, $15.00
and many other formats. For most desktop publishing
programs.
* DR. GAMES (6/93, BBS Ready, by Aces Research, Inc.): $25.00
Adventure, Arcade, Card Games, Chess, Flights, Puzzles,
Simulators, Sports, Strategy, Tetris, Wars, Windows
Games, and much more.
* GAMES 1993 (4/93, BBS Ready, by Chicago Computer Broker): $22.00
Over 6,000 files including Apogee games, unprotects,
tips, Tetris clones, lotto, casino, sports, VGA arcade,
Flight Simulators.
MONSTER MEDIA 1993 (5/93, BBS Ready): 420MB, no duplicate $32.00
files, FILES.BBS format included and conversion utility
provided for most popular BBS systems.
* NIGHT OWL 9 (6/93, BBS Ready, by Night Owl Publisher): $27.00
Great disc!
PC SIG 12 (3/93, by PC SIG): Latest in the PC SIG series. $29.00
PC-SIG WORLD of WINDOWS (8/93, BBS Ready, by PC SIG) $22.00
PHOENIX 4.0 (8/93, BBS Ready) $21.00
* SCI-FI FANTASY (4/93, BBS Ready, by Chicago Computer $25.00
Broker): VGA pics including Star Trek, Star Wars,
Fantasy, D&D, Creatures, Conan & much more.
* SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3 (7/93, BBS Ready, by Power User $28.00
Software): 650MB, VGA Arcade Games, Home & Hobby,
Graphics, Clip Art, Sound Files, Finance, OS/2, Windows,
Fonts & much more.
SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD COLLECTION (9/93, BBS Ready, by $29.00
American Databankers): Over 6,000 files, over 590MB.
File areas include: top software hits of 1993, Windows
apps and games, DOS games, family & education, business,
utils, GIFs, clip art, programming &
* SHAREWARE April 1993 (4/93, BBS Ready, by Chicago $23.00
Computer Broker): 5,000 files, games, sounds, Window,
utils, education, finance.
SHAREWARE OVERLOAD: Over 6,100 files, Games, MS Windows, $15.00
Business, Clip Art, Education & much more.
* WINDOWS 1993 (1/93, BBS Ready, by Chicago Computer $24.00
Broker): 7,000 files, Corel Draw utils, BMP, CRD,
wallpaper, games, icons, fonts, screen savers, clip art,
etc.
Clip Art
~~~~~~~~
GIFs GALORE: Over 5,000 full color GIFs and viewers for $19.00
MS-DOS, Macintosh, Amiga and Unix.
VGA SPECTRUM II: Over 680MB, over 800 MOD files, over $24.00
1,100 VOC files, animation, SoundBlaster, Top 20 games.
Game
~~~~
INDIANA JONES & THE FATE OF ATLANTIS: LucasArts' latest $46.00
adventure with The Man with the Hat. Only Indy can stop
the Nazi agents from unleashing the deadly secret that
sank Atlantis. Full voice and enhanced digital sound
effects.
KINGS QUEST V $19.00
LOOM: LucasArts' truly unique fantasy graphic adventure, $29.00
You play the role of a young weaver in the Age of the
Great Guilds.
Reference
~~~~~~~~~
FAMILY DOCTOR: Over 1,500 of frequently asked medical $26.00
questions, approx. 300 color medical illustrations, names
& addresses of support groups/education resources,
complete data on over 1,600 prescription drugs.
(Continued next message...)
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From: MARCIAL MORENO Number: 3001
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 09/16/93 8:00a
Subj: Re: cd-rom wholesalers. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> MM> Mega-ROM SoftWare ^^^^^^^^
-> FYI: This is VERY close to a copyrighted name used by a national mail
-> order company - Profit Press in Tucson, AZ. I surely hope you on
-> firm ground here.
Profit press has been around for about 2 1/2 years as my business has been
around for more then 5 yrs.
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From: DENIS DYE Number: 3002
To: NICK PETKOVICH Date: 09/16/93 8:15a
Subj: CD with CAD programs! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> -=> Guilherme Moura said something to All about CD with CAD programs! <=-
>GM> Anybody knows any Cd with only CAD programs ??
>GM> Programs for AutoCAd, Lisp...
>GM> I see any Cd with areas for CAD... but it's poor...
>I dont know any, but if you do find any, can you let me know?
><< Nick >>
>* Origin: Formal Dress Not Essential - +44 533 700368 (2:253/161.0)
>
Hello,
AutoDESK puts out a CD-ROM with AutoCAD 12 but for CAD programs on it...
It could use some help. If you need AutoLISP program to do something
write me and I'll give it a try. If you are just wanting to see what is
out there try looking at some of the CAD magazines.
Reach me here or at d_dye@access.digex.net
GC
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From: ED TURNOCK Number: 3003
To: ED YEE Date: 09/15/93 11:36a
Subj: What is "MPC-compatible system"? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
The thing I am missing is the sound card. Aparently the program for these
CDROMs require it.
Thanks for the help.
Ed
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From: KEVIN WILLIAMS Number: 3004
To: AL KOLLER Date: 09/14/93 7:58p
Subj: Pioneer DRM 600 problem Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Hello. Need a little tech help with a new DRM 600. It will not look
-> at my Future Domain TMC 845 controller and I have no idea why. I
-> have tried shifting the memory location but to no avail. Anyone with
-> suggestions about what to try/how to best troubleshoot? I thought
-> this would be "plug and play" but so far, nothing doing! Thanks.
I am not using a Future Domain, but did read a special section
concerning the 845 in the back of the installation manual. If you
haven't gotten it up yet, try back there.
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 3005
To: MARC CIRCOSTA Date: 09/12/93 9:12a
Subj: Aus. 562B distributor? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MC> Just wondering if I could ask a about the availablity of
MC>the new Panasonic 562B drive that everybody seems to be
MC>tac...), or maybe even better, if it comes packages with
MC>the SB16 and needed cables to join the two?
I sell them. You can make your own pakage.
Sound Blaster Pro Basic........................................$119.
Sound Blaster Pro Deluxe + Free Encyclopedia CD................$129.
sound Blaster 16 without ASP...................................$169.
Sound Blaster 16 ASP + Microphone .............................$209.
CD-ROM Panasonic 522B for SB Pro 380ms w/caddy.................$195.
CD-ROM Panasonic 562B 320ms w/contlr caddyless 300k/s 64kcache.$279.
Magnetic Shieded Multimedia Stereo Speaker system $9
MIDI cable for any sound card with Joystick port...............$19.
Price does not included shipping.
Call 310-602-2076 8AM-12PM, 6PM-9PM PST or mail order payable to: TRUC
16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723. Accept money order, COD $5extra
* OLX 2.1 TD * Voice 310-602-2076 8am-1pm,7pm-9pm PST. Fax 310-402-7240
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From: GEORGE PORTER Number: 3006
To: LEE NOGA Date: 09/15/93 2:07p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Vol II-New Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Misquoting Lee Noga to All <=-
LN> Consists of swimsuit, topless, bottomless, girls with girls, wet
LN> t-shirts, teasers, full frontal nudity, waist-up shots--Very few "XXX"
LN> ones, but there are a few...
There are minors reading these messages... Isn't there some other echo for
this stuff?
... Catch the Blue Wave!
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From: CRASH MAN Number: 3007
To: PAUL SWIDER Date: 09/13/93 5:43p
Subj: Sound card connection Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PS> the CDROM. The Pro Audio Spectrum (PAS) series has an SCSI controller on
PS> it and you can use any SCSI CDROM drive with the proper drivers. The
PS> Sound Blaster series (SB***) has there own type of controller and this
What if you already have a SCSI controller (in my case,
Adaptek) and only one device connected to it (HDD)? Are you better off
connecting the CD-Rom to the Sound Card (SB-Pro) or to the controller?
Are there any dis/advantages in either case?
<.~|_. /<.
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From: ANDREW BARFOOT Number: 3008
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/09/93 10:28p
Subj: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
In a message to All <31 Aug 93 14:35> Bob Hall wrote:
BH> I have seen a few messages about starting a new echo for multimedia, and
BH> other "branches" from this main echo. I for one, do not see that other
BH> echo's would serve the purpose. I do, however, have some suggested
BH> changes. Please make note of the changes:
You are the boss, but what do peole in countries like Australia do when the
other echo's you mention do not reach our shores. There is a lot of information
supplied by the U.S. dealers that we would never get to see. Please do not
change the advertising rules on this echo. Remove the Xlia do when the other
echo's you mention do not reach our shores. There is a lot of information
supplied by the U.S. dealers that we would never get to see. Please do not
change the advertising rules on this echo. Remove the
to p3 104/1 echo. /99 /12 13other "L. BARFOOT49/99 250/99 101 2MBUG36 901
Melbo/33 'Beplicabu Gro887 7395238 (Q10/8 one, do 1 501 601 701
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From: MIKE DRUMMOND Number: 3009
To: DAVE REED Date: 09/13/93 3:49p
Subj: CD SALES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DR>Shareware and adult titles are purchased by sysops, by a ratio of 5:1, at
>least
>from CD-ROM International. The other subjects 7:37 MUCH ejandr m
IdriguezHAREWARE 2....1er.raCD's to stock SysOps. I don't have F7BC
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3010
To: ANTON SWART Date: 09/16/93 2:20a
Subj: Re: Kings quest 7 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> YO boris....
>> The date is 8/9/93 and the cd-rom 2 this day has not come yet.
>> R u having problems??!! Hey if u need 2 ask or there is sum
>> prob. DONT FAX just dont :) leave me a message is echo . hmm..
>> Pleez be quick 2 reply if u reply coz my subscription is
>> nearly up - 13 dayz cheers l8ta
Your order was faxed to us on 93/09/02 at 14:55 hrs. Your order was
proccessed the next day and shippied via AIR MAIL at 10:48 hrs.
Normal travel time is 7 - 10 days and that depends on customes as well.
I would think you should receive your order within the next few days.
You have our fax number, please contact us if you have any further
questions or problems.
Boris Osadciw
... Every Silver lining has a clone around it.
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3011
To: JOSEPH ROBERTSON Date: 09/16/93 2:20a
Subj: Re: Multi-spin cd-rom drives Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GM>>Think Hard Now! Which One is Shinola?
GM>>A last thought. I bought my Mitsumi because bat the time it was the th
GM>>only drive that was MPC complaint for under US$200. There is a much be
GM>>drive available For around US$250. This drive is a Panasonic(sp) #562B
GM>>that will transfer data twice as fast as the Mitsumi 150k/s to the 56
GM>>300k/sec The Panasonic maybe a much better drive for a few $ more.
>> Where have you seen this Panasonic drive advertised
>> for $250.00? Can you use a SCSI interface with the
>> drive, and what is the seek rate of the drive? Thanks for any
>> information.
Joseph, we currently have the Panasonic in stock and it's priced at $250.
It comes complete with drive, cable, manual and Proprietary Interface card.
If you need additional information, please feel free to give us a call
at 216-225-3263 anytime 7 days a week and we'll be happy to assist you
further.
Boris Osadciw
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From: JOHN RACKLEY Number: 3012
To: JOHN PENDLETON Date: 09/14/93 10:53p
Subj: Re: SHAREWARE AND CDS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
What the heck is MINT and ICD's SCSI PRO? I was told that the Atari Falcon030
came with the SCSI interface built-in, and the SCSI driver is supposed to be
included on the built-in hard drive. Don't tell me I'd need to go out and buy
a bunch of driver software too... :-(
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From: BRUCE WILSON Number: 3013
To: KEVIN SULLIVAN Date: 09/15/93 12:00a
Subj: 7th Guest W/ 100% Video Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-11-93 Kevin Sullivan wrote to Rowan Evans...
KS> ML> It seems that the only people getting 100 are VLB....
KS> unfortunately
KS>
KS> ML> JS> BTW, the 86% with the ATI sounds awfull. I got 74% using
KS> ML> JS> a Trident JS>8900CL ISA card on a 486SX/25.
KS>
KS> RE> Considering the fact that its in a DX2/66 its possible that the
KS> processor
KS> RE> speed has had an effect on this score (whether for better or
KS> worse, I
KS> RE> don't know!).....
KS>
KS> Maybe not... I have a 486DX/33 with Cardex VLB Tseng ET4000 based
KS> chip,
KS> fast for DOS & Windows, and it gets 100% in T7G. Great little game,
KS> though
KS> I have just begun...
KS>
KS> * SPEED 1.20 [NR] * Braise the lord! 350 degrees for an hour, add
KS> veggies..
KS>
KS>
KS> --- WM v3.01/92-0751
KS> * Origin: Tokyo PC Club BBS +81 (3) (6:730/16.0)
KS>
KS>
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From: DAVID CHILDRESS Number: 3014
To: KEVIN SULLIVAN Date: 09/14/93 9:14a
Subj: CD-ROM questions Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-11-93 Kevin Sullivan wrote to David Childress...
Hi Kevin!
KS> DC>I have a few questions that I would like to ask about CD-ROM
KS> systems.
KS>
KS> I'm probably not the best to answer, but I think I can help out.
You helped a lot, thanks!!
I'm looking for a nice CD-ROM bundle that will be used for study,
games, information (dictionarys, etc.) files, etc.
I guess $500 is not out of the question +or-.
Thanks again for your feedback! :-)
-=Dave=-
KS> * Origin: Tokyo PC Club BBS +81 (3) (6:730/16.0)
How's things in Tokyo?
... OFFLINE 1.50
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From: STEVE ROY Number: 3015
To: MICHAEL GODDARD Date: 09/13/93 9:10p
Subj: Canadian Supplier for Night Owl 9 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Michael Goddard wrote in a message to All:
MG> In August, someone in Vancouver, BC announced they had Night
MG> Owl, version 9, at Can$50. Shortly thereafter, another
MG> message appeared, this time from Saskatchewan or Alberta
MG> saying there was a local (to them) supplier with NO#9 at
MG> about Can$35. I've lost that message, and I'd like to find
MG> that Sask/Alta supplier.
MG> Does anyone remember or does anyone know the address of that
MG> supplier?
I have one left at $40.00 CDN...interested? (plus postage)
Cheers,
Steve
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From: MARCO ZERBINI Number: 3016
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/13/93 9:38p
Subj: Sale Cd-Rom'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NB> TOO MANY MORE TO
NB> FOR A COMPLETE CATA
NB> E-mail ADDRESS OR
NB> ADDRESS!!!!
Please Email a complete list to me at
marco.zerbini@bbs816.mandic.onsp.br
Thank you
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From: DEBBIE MARANTZ Number: 3017
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/15/93 5:26a
Subj: 562b/563 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thanks for the information on the 562b/563 Panasonic CD Rom and it was just
what the doctor ordered. What had me mildly puzzled was when I asked Creative
about the 562b, their reply was that their software / drivers were being
written for the 563 and there was the possibility that their software would /
might not be reliable when using the 562b. I guess one could say that this
might be a good way to sell lots of 563 OMNI packages.
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From: DEBBIE MARANTZ Number: 3018
To: HEATHER KRAUSE Date: 09/15/93 5:39a
Subj: Creative Labs #BBS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
The number change came as a bit of a surprise. I had not called Creative for
about three weeks, so when the old number responded with a 2400 carrier, my
response was "What the...". Oh well, the more things change the less they stay
the same. Glad to have been of some help.
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From: BRIAN RYCHLICKI Number: 3019
To: ALL Date: 09/14/93 10:05p
Subj: Panasonic cd562-b / sbpro Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I just spent about three hours with a dealer trying to install a CD562B onto my
system which is a 386DX40, coProcessor, 8 Meg of Ram, and a Sound Blaster Pro.
No luck reading disks.
The hardware installation went very quick since "they" say that it plugs
directly into the SBPRO. We then installed the audio cable into the SBPro.
The Drive number was set to "0" on the 562B. The installation disk supplied
was a COMPRO disk which appeared to be very quick and simple by selecting the
562B drive with the SBPRO. After following all of the instructions, we
re-booted the system, the autoexec.bat and config.sys appeared to be ok the
information on the CDROM appeared to be ok allocating it as Drive D, the busy
light on the CDROM went on and the rest of the configuring continued. We then
tried to access the CDROM and this is where the problem occurred, - NOTHING -,
no access, no busy light on the CDROM drive, nothing. This basically is the
problem, it will not access the drive. We even installed another drive, same
type, and the same problem. Tried changing the connector cable around on the
SBPRO, nothing. The Disk was placed properly on the platter. The SBPRO manual
is very vague with no troubleshooting hints. It does mention that a 521c drive
can be installed.
The dealer said it could be my motherboard, which I doubt.
Please help by providing some ideas or solutions. Thanks in Advance.
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From: GARY STIMPSON Number: 3020
To: JOHN RACKLEY Date: 09/14/93 1:49p
Subj: Re: Amiga CD32 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of 11 Sep 93 John Rackley wrote to me:
JR> Thanks for posting that bulletin!
No problem!
JR> So, the CD32 does have a floppy connector? Good, it can be upgraded
JR> for use as a multimedia computer as well as a CD-ROM based game
JR> machine.
JR> Too bad they left out the parallel port!
I don't think the CD32 has a floppy connector, but it will when you add the
expansion module. Same with the parallel port.
In the next few messages I'll post an updated list of CD32 titles.
Gary
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From: GARY STIMPSON Number: 3021
To: ALL Date: 09/14/93 12:43p
Subj: CD32 Titles 1/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
--==< Titles to be released for the Amiga CD32 >==--
Compiled from various sources on the networks
* = new since last update
----
1884 (Millenium)
1869 (Flairsoft)
7th Guest (Virgin) -
Perhaps. Once the FMV module is out.
Akira (Ice) -
From the film.
Alfred Chicken (Mindscape)
Alien Breed 2 (Team 17)
Ambermoon CD32 - November release
Amiga CD Football (Plattsoft)
B 17 Flying Fortress (Microprose)
Battlestorm (Titus) *
Biosphere (Bullfrog)
Body Blows [2] (Team 17)
Burning Rubber (Ocean)
Cannon Fodder (Virgin)
Captive 2 (Mindscape)
Case of the Cautious Condor (Tiger Media) *
Chaos Engine (Mindscape)
Cinderella (Discus) *
Civilization (Microprose)
Compilation Disk (Mindscape) *
Composer Quest (Virtual Entertainment)
Connoisseurs of Fine Art (Lascelles) *
Creation
Daughter of Serpents (Millenium)
Defender of the Crown II (Sachs Entertainment)
Diggers (Millenium) -
"Diggers has been written from scratch on the CD32 -
it's not a conversion. There are six digital CD audio
tracks, at *least* 256 colours used throughout, with
24-bit copper backgrounds. The 34 levels each consist of
32,000 locations, with seven terrain types. Because we
didn't have to worry about the size of the game, we were
able to go to town with the amount of graphics."
- Toby Simpson ( Programmer )
Dino Worlds (Millenium)
Dogfight (Microprose)
Dracula (Psygnosis)
Drive Fractalus (Mindscape)
Dune [2] (Virgin)
England World Cup '94
Epic (Ocean)
FA Premier Soccer (Ocean)
Fantastic Voyage (Centaur) *
First Contact (Ocean)
Flashback (US Gold)
Flight of the Amazon Queen (Renegade)
Formula One GP (Microprose)
Frontier (Konami)
Global Chaos (Hex) *
Grolier Encyclopedia 2 (Xiphias)
Guiness Books Of Records (New Media)
Gunship 2000 (Microprose)
Hero Quest-Legend of Soracil (Gremlin) *
Heroic Age of Space Flight/NASA (Troika) *
Indiana Jones FOA (Lucasarts)
Inferno (Ocean)
Insight Technology (Optonica)
International Championship Golf (Ocean)
James Pond [2] (Millenium)
John Doe (Ocean)
Jurassic Park (Ocean) -
This is an Ultima Underworld/Wolfenstein 3D type game where you
have to hunt Raptors etc...
18+ months in development so far: October
release. "We couldn't do the 3D section with the
kiddy-type consoles, but we can with the Amiga."
- Ciaran Brennan of Bastion, Ocean PR
May be bundled with the CD32.
Legacy (Microprose)
Lemmings Compilation (Psygnosis) *
Liberation (Mindscape)
Lionheart (Thalion)
Litil Divil (Gremlin)
Long Hard Day at the Ranch (Discus) *
Lotus Turbo Trilogy (Gremlin)
Magic Carpet
Manchester United 2 (Krisalis)
Microcosm (Psygnosis)
Monkey Island (Lucasarts)
Monkey Island 2 (Lucasarts)
Monkey Island 3 (Lucasarts) -
Perhaps.
Mortal Kombat (Acclaim/Probe)
Moving gives me a stomach ache (Discus) *
--==> Continued next message! <==--
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From: GARY STIMPSON Number: 3022
To: ALL Date: 09/14/93 12:44p
Subj: CD32 Titles 2/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Mr. Nutz (Ocean)
Mud Puddle (Discus) *
Musicolor (Virgin)
Nick Faldo's Championship Golf (Grandslam)
Nigel Mansell GP (Gremlin)
North Polar Expedition (Virgin)
One Step Beyond (Ocean) -
The follow-up adventure of Quavery Colin. Release: Christmas.
Oscar (Flairsoft)
Overdrive (Team 17)
Pinball Dreams
Pinball Fantasies (21st Century) -
256 colour tables, CD-quality audio.
Pinball Illusions (21st Century)
Prehistoric (Titus) *
Premier Manager (Ocean)
Project X2 (Team 17)
Putty (System 3)
Return to the Lost World (Mirage - may licence)
Rise of the Robots (Mirage - may licence)
Robocod [3] (Millenium)
Rough and Tumble (Renegade)
Sabre Team (Krisalis)
Second Samurai (Virgin)
Sensible World of Soccer (Mindscape)
Sim City (Maxis) *
Sim Life (Mindscape)
SleepWalker (Ocean)
Snooker/Pool 2 (Virgin)
Soccer Kid (Krisalis)
Space Junk (Mirage - may licence)
Space Simulation (Gremlin)
Stamps of France and Morocco (Seriat) *
Star Trek 25th Anniversary
Super Frog [2] (Team 17)
Syndicate (Bullfrog) -
Ability to look into buildings and rotate the 3D view (and no
doubt the other graphics & sound will be improved)
Tale of Peter Rabbit (Discus) *
TFX (Ocean/DID)
The Cure (Ice) *
The Legend of Soracil (Gremlin)
The Ninja Trilogy (System 3)
The Two Towers
Ultima Underworld (Mindscape)
Uridium 2 (Renegade)
Utopia 2 (Gremlin)
Various Games Park [Pack?] (Mindscape)
Whale's Voyage (Flairsoft)
Wing Commander (Mindscape)
Wing Commander 2 (Mindscape)
World Circuit Grand Prix (Microprose)
Zool [2] (Gremlin)
--==> The End! <==--
Gary
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From: DAVID HUTTON Number: 3023
To: PAT RICKERSON Date: 09/15/93 7:39a
Subj: BSR CD-ROM wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PR>Know someone that has one he may want to sell how much are you wanting to pa
The last one I bought from someone cost me $100.00 I think that is about
considering the speed and how old the drive is. I would of course
also pay shipping. What were you thinking?
David
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From: DAVID HUTTON Number: 3024
To: JACK HUDDLE Date: 09/15/93 7:41a
Subj: BSR CD-ROM wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JH>David: I have one of the DAK(soney CDU-6201-20) external units never
JH>used on a BBS only used for Shareware scanning and some CorelDraw 3.o
JH>DTP. It is like new, No scratches ,cigarette smoke stans spotless with
JH>cabel and Controler card shipped to you via USPS for 310.oo. If you are
JH>interested please call me at (614) 837 0303 I also have a machine on
JH>that number and if I should be out, I will return your call if you leave
JH>a voice number.....................
Sorry I can't go that high. The last one I bought I paid $100 and that
included the controller card and cable. I of course would pay for
shipping also. Thanks
David
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From: JERRY MILLIKIN Number: 3025
To: ALL Date: 09/14/93 11:16p
Subj: New CD Titles Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello everyone,
I don't know if I can compete with the prices I've seen in here, but I
will give it a shot!
Software Vault Gold 36.00 released 9/1/93
Shareware Explorer 62.00 4 CD set, 26,000 files
Pier Shareware 2 33.00
Many others available: Call Family Computers, ask for Jerry or Lisa
513-833-5689
■ QMPro 1.50 41-6446 ■ The Family BBS 513-833-6093
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From: JOE SLIFER Number: 3026
To: PHILIP CROOKES Date: 09/11/93 1:15a
Subj: MANPOWER - NEW GAY CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>DR >We do NOT have to tolerate immoral behavior. No one should.
PC> What do you think is immoral in this context?
Nobody pickup on the new rule changes yet?
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From: JOE SLIFER Number: 3027
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/11/93 3:09a
Subj: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
>DH>However, I AM concerned about stuffing Multimedia into this echo. I
BH> Well, I think there would be room. Dunno, have been wrong before, and
BH> have the possiblity of being wrong again.
BH> But, I'd like to try it and see.....
I see nothing wrong with having Multimedia in here. Basically don't you already
have this... Soundcards, ect. Give it a shot... :-)
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 3028
To: ALL Date: 09/15/93 11:42a
Subj: CD-ROM SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
***************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION ****************
NEW FOR 1993
"SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD"
100% 1993 shareware files 600+ Megabytes of the best shareware of 1993
Six different file formats for use with all BBS's. All lists have been
searched and files are free of BBS ads for quality! The BEST BBS disc
around!
Sale Price $35.00
600+ Megabytes of Fully BBS Ready files
******************* UPDATED PRICE LIST ***********************
September 15, 1993
SUPER CD 1................ 22.00 SUPER CD 2............... 29.00
SO MUCH SHAREWARE 2....... 30.00 SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3...... 35.00
NIGHTOWL 9................ 32.00 NIGHTOWL 8............... 29.00
SOUNDWAV.................. 26.95 SHAREWARE EXTRAVAGANZA... 55.00
PC-S1G 12................. 41.50 SOFTWARE VAULT........... 28.00
DESKTOP PUBLISHERS DREAM.. 39.50 TIME DESERT STORM........ 29.95
PC MEDIC.................. 32.50 CICA WINDOWS............. 29.00
VGA SPECTRUM v2........... 19.00 CD-CADDYS................ 4.50
DR. WINODOWS...............22.00 DR. GAMES................ 22.00
DR. MUSIC................. 22.00 DR. SHAREWARE............ 22.00
************************** ADULT TITLES ***************************
Note: You must be 21 or over to purchase these titles
ECTASY HOT PICS........... 35.00 BUSTY BABES.............. 35.00
ASIAN LADIES.............. 35.00 PC PIX 3................. 35.00
PORKWARE 2................ 35.00 HOT HUNKS................ 35.00
LUCIOUS LADIES............ 35.00 EROTIC ENCOUNTERS 2...... 35.00
*All in stock and ready to ship.
* Shipping is 5.00 up to 3 cds .50 each additional.
* CA Residents add 7.75% Sales Tax
* SEND check/money order in US funds payable to ADRIAN SALAS to:
SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION
2434 EAST 32ND STREET,
NATIONAL CITY CA 91950-7710 USA
* QUESTIONS/ORDERS 619-479-8688 10:AM to 7:PM PST.
* QMPro 1.50 00-0000 * S.D. ROM CONNECTION-CD SALES & MORE! 619-479-8688
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From: BERT BURLAND Number: 3029
To: MARK CROSBIE Date: 09/14/93 7:42a
Subj: Pioneer 6 pack Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Mark!
Thursday September 09 1993 23:54, Mark Crosbie wrote to All:
MC> I am looking to get a Pioneer 6 pack in the near future. I have been
MC> unable to get prices here locally. Would anyone care to send me some
MegaHaus (800)786-1153 has an ad in the Oct. Computer Shopper on page 475
featuring the Pioneer 6 disc changers ranging in price from $839 to $1379. Hope
this helps. :)
Bert
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From: DONALD WEN Number: 3030
To: ALL Date: 09/14/93 11:04p
Subj: Daisy-chain cd-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have a Toshiba 3401E CD-ROM drive hooked up with a PAS-16 sound board.
Recently I got a NEC CDR-25 drive and I'm tempted to daisy-chain with the
3401. The CDR-25 is SCSI and has only one connector, so I can use it as the
last SCSI device and saved using a terminator. Can anybody suggest the use
of daisy-chained CD-ROM drives? I can think of one, albeit obvious: play
music CDs on the slow CDR-25 and access data on the fast 3401. :)
DONALD WEN
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From: STEVEN BALDASSARRA Number: 3031
To: ALL Date: 09/15/93 2:57a
Subj: Mitsumi CD ROM Unit Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Would like to know is Mitsumi LU-005S a multi-session or multi-session
unit?
Steven
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From: MARK GWYNN Number: 3032
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/14/93 11:43p
Subj: Looking for used cd Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
@ORIGIN :ODIELINK MUSIC BBS - (614) 333-6343 - SB/ADLIB SUPPORT! N
-> I can get you any CD you want, give me your mailing address and i'll send
-> you a list.
Well, I didn't ask, but I'd like your list of CD's. Please send it to:
Mark Gwynn
604 S. Fayette St.
Washington C.H., OH 43160-2242
Thanks!
p.s.
-> * QMPro 1.50 00-0000 * File not found: Loading something that looked
Interesting registration number for your QModemPro. Where'd you find that?
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 3033
To: ALL Date: 09/15/93 4:06p
Subj: Dealers WANTED !!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
==========>>>>>> W A N T E D D E A L E R S <<<<<<===========
Wanting people to become Dealers, Or to distribute to Dealers
Call Mutli-Media and ask for:
Shannon Madix
Cheapest Prices around !!!!
1-800-865-5354
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 3034
To: ALL Date: 09/15/93 4:06p
Subj: Dealers WANTED ! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
==========>>>>>> W A N T E D D E A L E R S <<<<<<===========
Wanting people to become Dealers, Or to distribute to Dealers
Call Mutli-Media and ask for:
Susan Burbank
Cheapest Prices around !!!!
1-800-865-5354
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From: ROGER SMITH Number: 3035
To: ROBERT POWELL Date: 09/14/93 6:47a
Subj: PANASONIC CR562B Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RP> I think you are missing the point I was trying to make. The
RP> individual I was responding to was questioning whether or not to
RP> consider a caddyless drive. Here it is just as simple as I can put
RP> it.
RP> Point #1 - If you take reasonable care of your equipment you are
RP> UNLIKELY to damage a CD disk.
Yes, but just damage one expensive CD and you may wish you had had it in a
caddy.
RP> Point #2 - Drives that do not use caddies do not eat CDs the same way
RP> a cheap cassette player eats cassettes. They should not be considered
RP> inferior for solely because they use a tray mechanism.
No. But for the most part, only the less expensive drives are caddy-less.
RP> Point #3 - If you purchase a caddy drive for protection it is
RP> reasonable that you must also purchase a caddy for each disk you own
RP> because you are just as likely to damage the disks putting then in and
RP> taking them out of caddies. Now let say you purchase 10 disks at an
RP> average cost of 40 dollars each and then buy 10 caddies at a cost of
RP> 7.50 each. You would have had to trash 2 disks or 20 percent of your
RP> programs before buying the caddies will save you anything above the
RP> cost of their purchase.
Caddies are only about $5 each which is not much to protect discs that can cost
a lot more than $40.
RP> Point #4 - If you do not take reasonable care of your equipment, if
RP> you possess no hand/eye coordination, if you are prone to getting
RP> drunk while using your computer equipment, if you consistently trash
RP> music CDs just by looking at them, or if you allow your children to
RP> play with your computer then purchasing a CDROM that uses caddies IS A
RP> NECESSITY.
Or if you simply prefer the safety and CONVENIENCE that a caddy drive offers.
Point #6. Caddies make it as easy to switch CDs as it is to switch floppies
without worrying about being extra careful.
I really think that it makes no sense to purchase a caddy-less CDROM drive
unless you don't really think you're going to use the CDROM drive very often
(and in that case, it may not make much sense to buy a CDROM drive).
-- Roger
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From: ROGER SMITH Number: 3036
To: RON FINDLING Date: 09/14/93 6:59a
Subj: CD-ROM vs. disk versions Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RF> However, it would be interesting if software manufacturers got
RF> together to make CD-ROM *drives* cheap enough so that "everyone" could
RF> afford one, and then put out their software *only* on CD-ROMs!
RF> (Presumably the CD games would also be made so big that it wouldn't be
RF> practical to copy them to floppies)
RF> There would be a lot of advantages here for everyone (except pirates
RF> and floppy disk manufacturers). Bigger (and presumably better)
RF> programs, losses due to pirating cut way down, the elimination of the
RF> "floppy shuffle," (replaced by the "CD shuffle"), etc, etc.
RF> What does everyone think of this idea?
And about that time cheap CDROM recorders hit the market and the pirates have a
field day. :-}
I'm kind of afraid of the price of recordable CDROM drives and media coming
down since companies will be afraid to put alot of data on CDROMs if the data
can be copied easily and inexpensively.
-- Roger
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From: ROGER SMITH Number: 3037
To: KEVIN SULLIVAN Date: 09/15/93 7:53a
Subj: CD-ROM questions Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DC>> 1). What is the difference between multi-session and
DC>> single-session?
KS> refers to the way the disk is written, mostly an issue with the new
KS> Kodak Photo CD standard for putting your photos on CDROM. If they take
KS> all 100 pictures and make the disk in one pass, single session that
KS> all CDR's should be able to read. If they instead put on 20, then say
KS> 40, then again, all at different times, multi-session that only newer
KS> drives can read. If you don't expect to use Kodak photo CD in the next
KS> couple of years, probably not too big a deal.
Even if you do plan to use Photo CD, it may not be a big deal. Right now, it
is cheaper to get each roll of film transfered to a separate Photo CD at the
time of developing than to add pictures to a Photo CD. So it is cheaper just
to get a new single-session disc for each roll.
I've based the above statement on the cost that I pay for Photo CDs at Sam's
Club. This could change in the future.
-- Roger
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From: ERIC HSIAO Number: 3038
To: ALL Date: 09/15/93 9:53p
Subj: Day of the tentacle Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I finished the Day of the Tentacle and now don't know what to do with the CD.
I watched the Rebel Assault demo & the Sam & Max demo at least 10 times
already. I pretty much used this CD as much as I can. Anybody in the North
Carolina area want to do a swap? I'd like to swap for the 7th Guest or a
couple of good shareware disks.
- Eric
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3039
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/15/93 9:17a
Subj: SEPTEMBER PRICES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
10 line limit on ads in this echo, thanks in advance for adhering to the
rules.
BOB
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3040
To: ADRIAN VERGOT Date: 09/15/93 9:18a
Subj: MAKE YOUR OWN CD-ROM! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
10 line limit on ads in this echo, thanks in advance for your adhering
to echo rules.
Bob Hall
Moderator.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3041
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/15/93 9:21a
Subj: DR. CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Stop the damned ads exceeding the limit.
Bob Hall
Moderator
1-800-550-3503 if you want to talk about it.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3042
To: CHRIS MOORE Date: 09/15/93 9:22a
Subj: CDROM ECHO FALLS OFF Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CM> > According to a recent post by Mike Fuchs, this echo (CDROM) has
CM> > fallen of the echolist and will be removed from the backbone.
CM>So what can we do to prevent this from happening?
It is taken care of.........
Bob Hall
Moderator.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3043
To: ALL Date: 09/15/93 9:43a
Subj: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Perplexing.
This echo, is going back to the way it has always been, and will remain
so, possibly through infinity. It is in the echolist, and will remain
so. It will not go away. The 10 (ten) line limit on ads will be
acceptable. However, recently there has been blantant abuse, and I am
getting calls, etc over the issue. As before, I basically let the echo
and the users set the rules, and when I start getting calls, then I
raise a little cain with everyone.
September 29th, this echo turns 10 years old. Yep, I looked up some old
records! When it started, a Philips CDR-101 was about all there was,
Hitachi had one out, but it was hard to find. Folks, that has been a
long time back. This echo has been a constant source of information,
and will remain to be so...... The first magazine dedicated to CDROM
was CDROM Review, by IDG. Two of their writers frequented this echo. It
fell by the wayside. Along came Linda Helgerson with CDROM End User.
Free subscriptions WERE available in this echo. CDROM End User fell,
too. And there are more slain in the battle, but this echo remains.
Friends have been made via this echo. That too, will remain as before.
Enemies and flamers have been made via this echo, and that too, WILl
remain as long as there are two working computers with modems on the
planet Earth. No way to change that. I still have an Australian
newspaper with an article about this echo, written 6 years ago, hanging
on my wall. My friends in Australia have became very special, as well
as countless others all over the world. All possible through this echo.
I can not think of a political topic that would of raised any more
debate than me requesting the adult topic be toned down in the echo.
Then when I officially requested it be taken to CDROMsale echo,
basically, all hell broke loose. There was only two reasons for that
decisions; 1. I don't think that children should have access to that
topic (this is an information echo), and --->>> 2. <<<--- people with
CDROM's are not the only people reading the echo. That topic has came
to light with the discussion of Mr. Tony Davis, and the confiscation of
his BBS with Adult titles on line. Please, anyone in the echo feel free
to talk to him, or perhaps, Lee Noga about that issue.
Presently, this is the only true international echo devoted to CDROM,
such as it is. CDROM has expanded, but for the majority, I can honestly
say I feel that the echo is serving its purpose. It is educational,
sometime fun, often challenging, informative, and basically filled with
wonderful people. However, there is an adequate amount of assholes
thrown in for good measure. :-)
I am not changing nothing.
see next message for rules.
Bob Hall
Moderator
1-405-340-3503
1-800-550-3503
net to 147/31 at the present time.
Snail Mail
19 W. 1st Street
Suite 4
Edmond, Ok 73034
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3044
To: ALL Date: 09/15/93 9:52a
Subj: RULES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Rules for this echo.
Fairly simple:
Topic: CDROM, and _related_ topics. They include laser optic
technology, multimedia, and simply put, CDROM related topics.
1. Don't over quote. Quote enough for others to understand your
message, but don't over quote, people are paying for your abuse. DO NOT
QUOTE entire ads!
2. 10 (TEN) line limits on ads. Not, 11, 12, 39, 84, but 10 (TEN).
Due to complaints, netmail, etc. I have been forced to enforce this
rule. Dealers, etc. be warned. Your orginating board can lose the
CDROM echo simply by your over abuse of the 10 line limit. I personally
think that 10 lines is adequate to give out information of your basic
product line, phone numbers, etc. It was a decision made by the users
of this echo, and not myself. It was agreed upon, and the majority made
the 10 line limit.
3. Hold your topic to CDROM, and CDROM related subjects.
4. Do not be excessively annoying.
5. Have fun, with the people, the technology, and the new media of the
future.
NB: I prefer the topic of adult titles be taken to the CDROMsale echo.
I still adhere to the idea that children have acess to this echo, as it
is international, and the topic of adult related material should not be
in the echo.
Bob Hall
Moderator
1-405-340-3503
1-800-550-3503
147/31 for netmail.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3045
To: ALL Date: 09/15/93 9:59a
Subj: 10 LINES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Re the 10 line limit:These are just some of my personal reflections.
Permit me to ramble. As said before, 10 lines is adequate to get your
information out to the public. EX: I am a distributor of CDROMs too,
and have been since the beginning. I have never felt like it would be
fair for me to run ads over and over, and make it the "Bob Hall" CDROM
Distribution echo. SO, I rarely ever mention that I am "in the
business". Many of the dealers in the echo buy from me, and have bought
for many years. So, I would like to see the 10 lines held in
perspective. Thanks. Bob Hall, Moderator. See... 10 lines.
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From: ED YEE Number: 3046
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/15/93 6:11p
Subj: Re: WRITABLE CD-ROM'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LR> No, no ,no. It is a WORM drive, not a CD. WORM stands for
LR> Write Once Read Many. While CD's certainly
LR> classify as a WORM medium, standard WORM drives do
LR> *NOT* use CD's.
No, duh.
I SPECULATED as to it's support. It would be unreasonable for a medium similar
to CD's not to be able to read CD-ROM's. It's like a high density drive not
supporting double density. It doesn't make sense. There should be backward
compatibility with older technology. My mistake. You guessed it, I like
speculating, then figure out if I'm right of wrong.
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 3047
To: TREVOR HANWELL Date: 09/15/93 8:19p
Subj: Busty Babes Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Trevor!
13 Sep 93, Trevor Hanwell writes to Pat Rickerson:
-=>> Quoting Pat Rickerson to All <=-
PR>> I still have Busty Babes #1 I'm willing to sell or trade.
PR>> $250.00 This CD has been going for as much as $450 so lets make a deal
TH> $250.00!!!!!!!!! I don't think so. I have seen it in Toronto for
$49.95
TH> - $69.95. I haven't seen any of those CD's over $80.00 Don't know
where
TH> you got it but you got ripped off.
Well, sorry. I have seen it for sale for this price maybe it was a bunch of
bull I was just saying what I have read. You know how things go, one minute the
price is nothing and the next thing it has sky rocketed.
Pat
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From: STEWART ROTHMAN Number: 3048
To: ALL Date: 09/15/93 11:12a
Subj: XXX CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm just curious.......Why does there seem to be such a proliforation
of X-Rated CD's ? For those who are into that sort of thing, they can get
much better quality and diversability with VHS Movie cartridges either for
$29.00-$39.00 through the magazine ads or $1.50 to $3.50 per day at Video
rental places. I cannot understand why anyone would tie up an expensive
computer viewing low quality cheescake or porn pix, when
they can get VHS tapes or magazines much cheaper. I'm not against
them or complaining about them being here in the echo, just curious!!!
Stu
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From: DONNIE RAYNOR Number: 3049
To: ALL Date: 09/15/93 6:36p
Subj: Mitsumi CD-Rom drive for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Mitsumi CD-Rom drive for sale two months old with interface, docs, and
interface card. Still in box. $175.00 I'll pay shipping.
... My hard disk is full! Maybe I'll try this message section thing.
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From: RON FINDLING Number: 3050
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/14/93 6:29p
Subj: Re: OS/2 CD-ROM support Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
(Windows)
> RF> comparision you made is overdone.
> Not at all.
(Lots of other similar stuff deleted)
I'd LOVE to have answered all this stuff (I even took on a Microsoft
employee once on this kind of thing, so I'll take anyone on), but it
was getting way too off topic.
Unfortunately, most of the stuff I *can't* reply to I disagree with you
on, and most of the stuff I *can* reply to I agree with you on! :)
=======================================================================
> RF> ...Also, as obviously evidenced by all the questions about them,
> RF> the driver situation is not completely filled... *yet*.
> True, however, if one stays with SCSI, one not only
>gains the performance benefits of SCSI, one also has few
>problems under OS/2.
If one has it in the first place, then they can stay with it, the
obvious best choice. But moving to it in the first place is not cheap,
which, like the RAM prices, is probably one of the reasons many people
are still staying away from OS/2. Hopefully in the future prices will
continually go down here, as well.
It is a given, though - you want to use a CD-ROM drive under OS/2, go
SCSI if at all possible.
___
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From: RANDY RUZICKA Number: 3051
To: ALL Date: 09/15/93 6:32p
Subj: NEC 84J Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have a NEC-84J CD ROM, I believe it is double-spin. Is this true?
Are all NEC-84J's double-spin. How can you tell it is double-spin
and actually using the double-spin capabilities? I saw an ad for
one where it has a light indicator to indicate double-spin, mine
does not seem to have one? Does this mean mine is not double-spin?
All answers (and hopefully assurances) would be appreciated.
Randy Ruzicka
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From: NEIL RIPSTON Number: 3052
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/16/93 11:16p
Subj: SPECIAL CD-ROM PRICES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Neil Bergman to All <=-
NB> SHORELINE CD-ROM PHONE: (310) 652-2858
NB> 1206 S. HOLT AVE. #1
NB> LOS ANGELES, CA 90032 FAX: (310) 652-2608
Dear Mr. Shoreline,
I want to get your catalog as soon as possible. Please
E-Mail it to me or even mail it to me.
My name and address is:
Neil Ripston
10 Windham Drive
East Longmeadow, MA 01028
... I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere!
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From: NEIL RIPSTON Number: 3053
To: ROBERT MCGEHEE Date: 09/16/93 11:26p
Subj: READ ME Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have the Texel DM 3024 Internal. I am quite happy with the drive and the
support.
I had a problem after they upgraded it to Photo CD compatibility, and they sent
me a new drive under warranty.
All I can say is I ahd a good experience with Texel.
... My hard disk is full! Maybe I'll try this message section thing.
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From: DAVID BARNETTE Number: 3054
To: GREG SIMMONS Date: 09/16/93 11:07p
Subj: Hey Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi,
I am glad to finally see you on here! How do you like it?
David Barnette
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From: WAYNE POWELL Number: 3055
To: MARK WOMACK Date: 09/16/93 3:46p
Subj: Space Quest 4 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-= Mark Womack said to All about SPACE QUEST 4 on 09-12-93: =-
MW>Can someone help me get un-stuck in this game? I've been stuck at
MW>the same place for 3 weeks now. I'm at the manhole and see the
MW>transport landing. Anwhere I go from here I get killed right away.
MW>I don't even have time to think. I have several items in my
Mark,
Select the Hand Icon. Click immediately on the landing gear after
Roger walks on the screen. You may have to do this a couple of times until
you hit the right spot.
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From: BILL MILLER Number: 3056
To: ALL Date: 09/01/93 9:24p
Subj: cd-rom wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm in need of a cd-rom. Any make,model,speed,size,shape,or form. But
preferably an external make and a cheap buy. Leave mail if you want to
sell.
Bill Miller
P.S. I'd want the card, and cables to hook it up. And maybe some
caddies and disc's if possible.
Bill Miller
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From: GUY R. LANNEWEHR Number: 3057
To: ALL Date: 09/12/93 10:02p
Subj: National telephone directory Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm looking for anyone who has any of the advertised national residential
telephone directory on CD. I believe they come in a set of 3 or so. I see
that DAK is advertising their set for $149. What other companies is selling
this type of disk(s) and what is their price?
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From: GREG SWAN Number: 3058
To: ALL Date: 09/06/93 9:22a
Subj: amiga cd-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
hello all!
just wonder'd if anyone out here is a amiga user??????
if so do you have a cd-rom for it? was thinking abt getting one.
is it worth it?????? what do you think?????? are the games that much more
awesome?????? let me know please.
thanks!--------------------------------->greg
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 3059
To: DAVID HUTTON Date: 09/17/93 2:27a
Subj: BSR CD-ROM wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello David!
15 Sep 93, David Hutton writes to Pat Rickerson:
PR>> Know someone that has one he may want to sell how much are you wanting
PR>> to pa
DH> The last one I bought from someone cost me $100.00 I think that is about
DH> considering the speed and how old the drive is. I would of course
DH> also pay shipping. What were you thinking?
DH> David
Trying to find one for about that price maybe 125 but that's about it, it's
for my sons computer. Thank's for asking.
Pat
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 3060
To: ED FEIN'S Date: 09/17/93 2:25a
Subj: cd caddies Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Ed!
I will take the caddies if they aren't sold need address or please send COD
411 Ninth St. NAS
Corpus Christi, Tx 78418
Call to ver if you want or leave your #. 512-939-9822
Pat
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From: JACK VOORHIES Number: 3061
To: JAMES WILLIAMS Date: 09/16/93 8:29a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi CD-ROM Audio Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> I have just bought a Mitsumi CD-Rom drive
> Model LU005U, this is there
> latest High Speed Drive. I'm happy with it but
> am having trouble with
> the audio. I can get audio from the front
> connecting the drive to my sound card (a
> plain Sound Blaster) with the
James
You must change the pins in the small audio connector going to your sound
card. Just reverse the pins.
Jack
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From: PAXTON C. SANDERS Number: 3062
To: ALL Date: 09/14/93 3:18a
Subj: Sound card Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
FD>Will I loose something if my CD-ROM is not connected to the sound card
FD>
FD>Thanks
FD>
FD>Francois
Uh...sound, maybe? :)
Pax
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From: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON Number: 3063
To: CHRIS FLYNN Date: 09/16/93 9:11p
Subj: CD ROM Catologues Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Can I also have one of your magazines??? My fax number is 819-682-9503
Chris
TTYL
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From: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON Number: 3064
To: TREVOR HANWELL Date: 09/16/93 9:16p
Subj: Re: NEW FREE CDROM CATALOG! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Sorry if I am butting in but I would like one of your CD-ROM catalogs...
Send it to the following address:
C E Bourguignon
293, North #5
Aylmer, Qc
J9H 6V9
Canada
Thanks in advance for your co-operation
Chris
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From: DAVID WILLS Number: 3065
To: SCOTT DAVIS Date: 09/16/93 8:39p
Subj: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>BF>Have you bothered asking Bob WHY he has suddenly outlawed "Adult" CD-ROMs
>BF>from this echo?
>No.. but I am curious.. WHY?!?
Hmph, it's pretty obvious isn't it? Religious activists and moral
do-gooders have once again used their collective might to knuckle under
another "public forum". Or should I say, "censored public forum" now?
<Dripping with acidic sarcasm> Of course, it's in the name of all
what's good and just that they "protect us from ourselves". We all
wouldn't want to end up in hell, now do we? Anyway, don't you know
that naughty pictures will make you a sicko pervert, kill everyone,
turn to a life of crime, and take large amounts of illegal drugs???
Gee, is this 100% flame bait or what?
>:)
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From: DAVID WILLS Number: 3066
To: BRIAN HARTMAN Date: 09/16/93 8:40p
Subj: JAPANESE ANIMATION CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Anime. A Americian company called U.S. Manga had a CD with anime out,but it
>is
>now no longer in production. Anyone that has the CD and is intrested in
>selling,or knows where I can get a copy,please reply.
If you find anyone distributing, let the rest of us know in the anime
conf!
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From: BILL LAWRENCE Number: 3067
To: ARISTEDES MANIATIS Date: 09/15/93 3:20a
Subj: Re: CD ROM RECORDER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Aristedes Maniatis to All <=-
AM> I am looking for someone with a CD ROM recorder to write about 300 Mb
AM> to a CD. I know that the recorders are available for under $10,000. I
AM> am able to supply the files on 88Mb Syquest cartridges and I would be
AM> willing to pay a reasonably amount to have the CD made.
AM>
AM> I would appreciate any information whatsoever - please forward it to
AM> me via netmail as well as in this echo.
AM>
AM> Thank you,
AM> Ari
AM>
AM> -!- COUNTERPoint 2.3
AM> ■ MkNet ■ ish production & design (3:714/914.1@fidonet.org)
For one-off CDs we charge a flat $150 ($75 for additional copies of
the same CD). We accept information on QIC 80 tapes or other formats
with special arrangements.
Fast turn around (usually within 48 hours of receiving) and privacy
for your data. For more information or to make a CD, contact
Anasazi Computing
P.O. Box 15935
Phoenix, AZ 85060-5935
(602) 902-0430
... This BBS has achieved Air superiority.
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From: BILL LAWRENCE Number: 3068
To: DAVID CHANDLER Date: 09/15/93 3:21a
Subj: Re: CD ROM MANUFACTURERS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting David Chandler to All <=-
DC> Who manufacturers CD-Roms and how much does the process cost? I am a
DC> software author and have a program with data enough to fill a CD. Any
DC> leads?
DC>
DC> --David Chandler
DC>
DC> -!- DB 1.39/004485
DC> ■ MkNet ■ The Diamond Bar BBS - 909-923-1031 - Ontario, CA
DC> (1:218/101) BY
For one-off CDs we charge a flat $150 ($75 for additional copies of
the same CD). We accept information on QIC 80 tapes or other formats
with special arrangements.
Fast turn around (usually within 48 hours of receiving) and privacy
for your data. For more information or to make a CD, contact
Anasazi Computing
P.O. Box 15935
Phoenix, AZ 85060-5935
(602) 902-0430
... Blue Wave! Not just for FIDONet anymore!
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From: LEE NOGA Number: 3069
To: GEORGE PORTER Date: 09/16/93 4:46p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Vol II-New Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message to Lee Noga <09-15-93 14:07> George Porter wrote:
GP>> LN> Consists of swimsuit, topless, bottomless, girls with girls, wet
GP>> LN> t-shirts, teasers, full frontal nudity, waist-up shots--Very few
GP>> "XXX"
GP>> LN> ones, but there are a few...
GP>> There are minors reading these messages... Isn't there some other
GP>> echo for
GP>> this stuff?
Is this a first amendment question?, don't see where the general description is
going to influence any child to be a serial rapist. It's one thing for them to
read about the disc, and its another to view the disc--Sorry my friend if this
is offending, but this is hardly an issue of obscenity.
If the children are realizing that women can be photographed nude from my post,
well then I am glad they learned it from me--
-=*>Lee<*=-
"Sucessful parent of a son, and 2 grandkids"
--- GEcho 1.00+
* Origin: Queen Of Hearts BBS, Deltona FL (904)789-6843 (1:3618/23)
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From: ARNIE GROSS Number: 3070
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 09/16/93 12:13a
Subj: Re: DR. CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
HENRY -
13 Sep 93, HENRY PAUL writes to MIKE SHANNON:
HP> What can you tell me about Dr. Music? I just got my own
HP> board up and am thinking about adding a CD of files to
HP> my board. My theme is Music & Aviation so this sounds good.
Sorry to tell you this is just a rehash of old files. I have a
master file list here if you want to f'req it from our BBS.....
- Arnie :+}
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From: DON RIEB Number: 3071
To: JULIUS FAJARDO Date: 09/15/93 9:28a
Subj: Re: NEW FREE CDROM CATALOG! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JF> Hi its Julius from Australia,
JF> Just curious to know whether these titles have come out in Canada.
JF> Rebel Assualt ( LucasArts )
JF> Iron Helix ( Spectrum Holobyte)
JF> Microsom ( Psygnosis )
JF> Spaceship Warlock ( Reactor )
JF> Screaming Metal ( Reactor )
JF> Return to Zork ( Interplay ??? )
JF> and if you know of any other hot CD games coming out soon,
JF> say now to early 1994.
JF> Thanks in advance
JF> JF
Hi Julius!
I don't know what you mean by canida but here is some of the games I have seen
that are available on CDROM.
Battle Chess
Chess Maniac Nat Lampoon
Chessmaster 3000
DUNE
Eye of the Beholder 3
Fly & Drive Spectacular
Four Queens Computer Casino
Hyper Backgammon
Indiana Jones Fate of Atlantis
King's Quest 5
Leasersoft Top Tracks
Leader Board Collection
Loom
Lost Treasures Infocom V1
Manits
Pentomino
Private Eye Mysteries
Putt Putt Joins the Parade
Ringworld
Secret\Luftwaffe
Secrret Monkey Island
Seventh Guest
Sherlock Holms Consutling Detective 1, 2 and 3
Space Quest IV
Triple Tris Challange
Whacky Funster
Willy Beamish
Wing Commander 2/secret Missions
** Don Rieb **
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From: RYAN DAWSON Number: 3072
To: TOBBY RYAN Date: 09/16/93 6:55p
Subj: CD+graphics Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey there. I don't know where you can get such a program but if you do
find out, I'd like to know. CD+G discs are fascinating. How can you
tell if your music disc has graphics on it? I heard that a lot of the
early compact discs where CD+G but that they weren't all that popular so
they stopped making them that way. Oh well, just curious. Sorry I
couldn't help you. I've been looking for such a program myself. Let me
know if you find one.
Thanks,
Phantom1
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* Origin: Computer Specialties BBS - Overland Park, KS (1:280/325)
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From: RYAN DAWSON Number: 3073
To: PAUL SWIDER Date: 09/16/93 6:58p
Subj: T7g Help Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
(714) 562-5030
Your welcome,
Phantom1
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* Origin: Computer Specialties BBS - Overland Park, KS (1:280/325)
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From: JAMES REAMES JR Number: 3074
To: PAUL SWIDER Date: 09/15/93 11:49p
Subj: Re: T7g Help Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On Tue 14-Sep-1993 9:05a, Paul Swider wrote:
PS> I need the number for Virgin Games BBS to see if they have a fix for
PS> a video problem I am having. Diamond doesn't have a fix on their BBS
PS> and I lost the card that might have had the Virgin Games BBS number
PS> on it. Thanks in advance! >Paul<
PS> ... OFFLINE 1.50 "Knowing Murphy's law won't help either."
PS> --- Maximus/2 2.01wb
PS> * Origin: The Choice BBS, Las Vegas, NV 702-253-6527 HST DS 16.8k
PS> (1:209/710)
all you need to do is call a bbs that has the update for the game on it.. It
fixes ALL the vesa problems and other stuff...
--- CNet XFIDO 2.63
* Origin: Powerstation BBS* Grand Prairie,Tx. 214-606-0327 (1:124/6302)
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 3075
To: DICK HUDDLESTON Date: 09/16/93 4:15p
Subj: CDs Arrived Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Glad they arrived OK. Thanks for the feedback. Cheers!
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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* Origin: The Bit Bucket * Houston, Tx * 713/496-9670 * (1:106/9670)
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From: ED YEE Number: 3076
To: JAMES WILLIAMS Date: 09/16/93 5:08p
Subj: Mitsumi CD-ROM Audio Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JW> I have just bought a Mitsumi CD-Rom drive Model LU005U, this is there
JW> latest High Speed Drive. I'm happy with it but am having trouble with
JW> the audio. I can get audio from the front mounted
JW> headphone jacks but by
JW> connecting the drive to my sound card (a plain
JW> Sound Blaster) with the
JW> cable that came with the sound card and then
JW> running the out put of the
JW> sound card to my stero amp, I don't get sound. Anybody out there with
Rowan Evans told me that you could not do this. Only the pro and up series has
audio input directly on the cards.
I tried this with my 16 bit sound card, and it works fine, I actually can share
a pair of speakers, now.
--- Maximus 2.01wb
* Origin: EXCESS BBS Calgary (403)285-7338 1.8gb (HST-DS 16.8K) (1:134/17)
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From: PETE CRESSWELL Number: 3077
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/16/93 7:40p
Subj: OS/2 CD-ROM SUPPORT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LR> The WPS, although FAR better than Windows, also stinks to high
LR> heaven. My best advice to the OS/2 user is to dump the WPS, as well.
Ever tried a MacIntosh?
... Food-For-Thought Paoli, PA 215/251-9387
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 3078
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/16/93 12:00p
Subj: DR. CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
BH=>Stop the damned ads exceeding the limit.
Wont happen again.
Adrian Salas
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 3079
To: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON Date: 09/16/93 12:01p
Subj: Catalogs wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CB=>Thank you very for sending the catalog when I get it...!
No problem, anytime.
Adrian Salas
* QMPro 1.50 00-0000 * S.D. ROM CONNECTION-CD SALES & MORE! 619-479-8688
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 3080
To: ADRIAN VERGOT Date: 09/16/93 12:57p
Subj: MAKE YOUR OWN CD-ROM! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Adrian,
Your offer sounds interesting, could you give me more info and prices.
Please send details to:
SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION
2434 EAST 32ND STREET,
NATIONAL CITY CA 91950-7710 USA
Thanks,
Adrian Salas
* QMPro 1.50 00-0000 * S.D. ROM CONNECTION-CD SALES & MORE! 619-479-8688
--- WM v3.00/91-0098
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 3081
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/16/93 1:10p
Subj: RULES Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
BH=>NB: I prefer the topic of adult titles be taken to the CDROMsale echo.
Mr. Hall,
By this you mean, that in advertisements they must, be divided, say the
"Shareware and Games, and non-adult" is ok here and ADULT titles are to
be posted in the CDROMsale Echo? Or are you referring to just the
"discussing" of Adult titles?
Thank you for your time,
Adrian Salas
* QMPro 1.50 00-0000 * ROM CONNECTION-CD SALES - 619-479-8688 10am-7pm
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 3082
To: ALL Date: 09/16/93 2:00p
Subj: CDS-FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NEW FOR 1993 "SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD"
100% 1993 shareware files 600+ Megabytes of the best shareware of 1993
Six different file formats for use with all BBS's. All lists have been
searched and files are free of BBS ads for quality! The BEST BBS disc
around! Sale Price $35.00
Shipping is 5.00 up to 3 cds .50 each addition CA add 7.75% SEND
check/money order in US funds payable to Adrian Salas to: San Diego ROM
Connection 2434 East 32nd Street National City CA 91950 USA
* QMPro 1.50 00-0000 * ROM CONNECTION CD-SALES 619-479-8688 10am-7pm PST
--- WM v3.00/91-0098
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 3083
To: ALL Date: 09/16/93 2:08p
Subj: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
***************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION ****************
If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave your
mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
Thank you
Adrian Salas
* QMPro 1.50 00-0000 * ROM CONNECTION CD-SALES 619-479-8688 10am-7pm PST
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From: DAN BUDA Number: 3084
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/16/93 11:31p
Subj: Re: SONY 535 SPEEDUP Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Brice... I think it was Adaptec that bought Trantor... I know for sure that
Trantor was bought by someone <Grin>
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From: TIM CANFIELD Number: 3085
To: ALL Date: 09/16/93 12:29p
Subj: Kings Quest 6 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey anyone have KQ6 on CD-Rom?
I have it and am playing it, but I am stuck and am wondering if anyone
else has a clue?
1> Can't pass the boiling water.
2> Can't seem to get into the castle... (tried 3 times, restarted 3 that
is)
Leave me a note - if ya can help -
Candid Kid
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From: KEN UHRICK Number: 3086
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/14/93 9:44a
Subj: Re: Southern Beauties Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Boris Osadciw to Bob Jackson <=-
>> Unfortunately, Ismail's not alone. This CD is being hawked to
>> sysops in several adult echos/links as "New, Hot, and BBS
>> Ready". I tried to warn them (hawkers). Told them to read the
>> back of the jewel case (copyright notice); told them to look
>> at the "FILES.BBS" files (they're there but useless); etc. I
>> was told rather impolitely to buzz off. I guess Blaine's got
>> his work cut out for him (sigh). --- FreeMail 1.07b
BO> Well, let's put a warning lable on it ...."Southern Beauties - If
BO> placed on any BBS systems for users access, they will be suide by Blain
BO> Richards, no if ands or butt's <- sorry for the pun!"
BO> That'll get there attention !!
I FELL that sellers need to tell users that its not a bbs disk befor
selling it too sysops
i MITE BE NUTTS but the sellers dont care or some thing it that sell
A non bbs cd-rom AS bbs ready
... "I'll forgive Jane Fonda when the Jews forgive Hitler."
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From: SCOTT DAVIS Number: 3087
To: JOSEPH THOMAS Date: 09/17/93 3:52a
Subj: MITSUMI OS/2 DRIVER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> How does one order the OS/2 CDROM Driver for the Mitsumi CDROM?
> I am interested in purchasing it.
CM> I have a copy on my BBS. If the BBS you're using lets
CM> you FREQ files, please feel free to request it from me
CM> (1:244/110). It's called OS2_LU.ZIP.
JT> If this is shareware, it is probably out of date and
JT> may not work correctly.
JT> I have a copy of Florida's driver for Mitsumi, which did not
JT>work for me, so I am selling it for the same price. Tnx.
True but the out of date beta (OS2_LU.ZIP) does tell you how to order the Germ
drivers which are excellent.
l8r,
Scott
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From: PAUL KNOX Number: 3088
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/17/93 6:43a
Subj: LOOKING FOR USED CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for a disk full of shareware to use on my bbs. My address is as
follows:
Paul Knox
2405 Southdale Rd.
Hephzibah, Ga.
30815
Thanks
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From: CHIP MORROW Number: 3089
To: BILL LAWRENCE Date: 09/16/93 7:14a
Subj: Re: EL CHEAPO CDROM'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BL> I will buy the Natl Geo. Mammals and the Sample This!
BL> will you take $12.00 for them? Let me know.
The day after I posted that note, someone locally showed up at my
front door with cash in hand and took all five. Thanks for the
interest.
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* Origin: The Mother Board,Buckeye Lake,OH(614)928-2339 (1:226/1400)
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From: JOHN PENDLETON Number: 3090
To: JOHN RACKLEY Date: 09/17/93 1:10a
Subj: Re: SHAREWARE AND CDS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JR> What the heck is MINT and ICD's SCSI PRO? I was told
JR> that the Atari Falcon030 came with the SCSI interface
JR> built-in, and the SCSI driver is supposed to be
JR> included on the built-in hard drive. Don't tell me
JR> I'd need to go out and buy a bunch of driver software too... :-(
JR>
OK, your talking about the Falcon. MINT is now MultiTOS on the Falcon, you'r
set there. Ataris driver software is supposed to support the CD-ROM, I don't
know for sure, I haven't seen any responce on the Atari Echo to that effect.
Not being able to afford the Falcon yet myself, I am running the CD-ROM on my
STe via MINT and ICD's SCSI Pro software. Yes, the SCSI port is built into the
Falcon, as well as a IDE port (internal).
John
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From: GERALD RYCKMAN Number: 3091
To: ERIC STAUFER Date: 09/16/93 4:41a
Subj: Gifs Galore Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
ES>> I would like to ask a quick question here...
ES>> Does anyone have any descriptions whatsoever for a Cd called GIFs
>>Galore by Walnut Creek CD-ROM? I called and asked the company but they said
>>that they make any... If you run a bbs, and do have descriptions, I'll FREQ
>>the descriptions from you.. Thanks in advance...
I have it online on my BBS but unfortunatetly it is currently under
reconstruction (because of a network crash...several harddisks lost
permanently). It should be back up by no longer than next month. If you
wish, you can call my BBS at 1-416-286-6063 after October 1st, 1993.
The disk is not "BBS Ready", meaning there are no descriptions. I had
to enter the descriptions one by one on the 6500+ files...and it's
still not yet completed. BTW, once you logon into Silent Services HQ,
you will have full access and no paid registration is neccessary.
Download all you wish and no upload/download/message ratio is
incorporated. Simply just run the CDROM Door at the main prompt. We're
still working on a customized update of the CDROM door...more features
added include graphic conversion and compression, and Age Limitation
Accessing. Anyways, hope this will help. SSHQ also has over 22*
gigabytes of CDROMs ranging from G-Rated GIF's to X-Rated GIF & 24-bit
TGA/TIF pictures to 24-bit Kodak/CorelDraw Photo CD photos (.PCD).*
And Sorry, we only support 14.4k v.32bis to 19.2k ZyXEL modems.
* 1st 1.11 #1060s *
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From: GERALD RYCKMAN Number: 3092
To: ALL Date: 09/16/93 5:49a
Subj: CD WANTED Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone out there sell the following CDs:
-- Any CD full of .MOD music ONLY. No WAV, VOC, MID, or any other
type of music format. No Dr. Music CD please.
-- Any CD full of 24-bit TGA 640x480x16m and up. Doesn't matter
whether they are all G-rated or all X-rated.
-- Any CD of G-rated GIFs other than GIF Galore and Night Owl G1,
and must contain of at least 2000 SVGA GIFs.
*
-- And cheap. Resonable priced.
-- And cheap S&H.
Thanks.
* 1st 1.11 #1060s *
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 3093
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 09/15/93 5:14a
Subj: CD-ROM GAMES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Ashwin!,
-> I know what you mean Henry, I got the InterAction magazine and the ga
-> looks real good and I hope to buy it too, but actually right now my e
-> are on Police Quest 4, I have never played any of the Police Quest
-> sereis so this is my first, hey by the way have you played SPace Ques
-> 4, the CD-ROM or the regular version, cuz if you have maybe you can h
-> me, please write back, C-ya and TTYL.
Yeah, I've been getting Interaction since it was the Sierra News
Magazine..
I have PQ3 and it is absolutely fablulous! My brother is nuts about PQ4
too. Yes, I have the entier SP series! It's my favorite! I have it on
disk, but still got to the end anyhow.
What are you having trouble with? Also, how old are you? I'm 17.
TTYL,
Henry
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 3094
To: DOUG DAGGER Date: 09/15/93 5:18a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Doug!,
-> HP> For instance, Wing Commander 2 with 512k EMS has somewhat choppy
-> HP> graphics, but if I increase that to anything more than 528k it r
-> HP> as
-> HP> smooth as anything...
-> So if I had about 1mb free RAM it would run pretty smoothly with no d
-> in graphics. What about if you had a graphics accelerator card, woul
-> make any difference?
Yes, 1mb should be great. The more the better. I don't know about an
accelerator card. Might help, but I don't know. I also have the cache
sectors maxed on mine. 64 on MTMCDE.SYS and 64 on MSCDEX.EXE. They can
be loaded high, and the caches can go in EMS/XMS memory.
l8r,
Henry
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 3095
To: EDWARD TUSHAR Date: 09/15/93 5:30a
Subj: CD's in the background Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Edward!,
-> Is there a way (or program) that will allow you to listen to CD's whi
-> other work on the computer? Just wondering. And no, I don't do WIND
The driver that comes with the drive for playing them should...
I just start one up, and then go to the modem and read these messages!
<g>
Hope this helps!,
Henry
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 3096
To: NIGEL ZETT Date: 09/15/93 5:35a
Subj: Pro Audio Studio 16XL Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Nigel,
-> Don't forget the Diamond Sonic Card, which includes wave table synthe
-> the same price as an SB PRO 16 ASP! (I have the SBPRO16ASP, and wish
-> held off a few weeks until the Diamond came out...)
Who makes the Diamond Sonic card?
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 3097
To: ANTON SWART Date: 09/15/93 5:42a
Subj: Kings quest 7 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> The date is 8/9/93 and the cd-rom 2 this day has not come yet. R u ha
-> problems??!! Hey if u need 2 ask or there is sum prob. DONT FAX just
-> leave me a message is echo . hmm.. Pleez be quick 2 reply if u reply
-> subscription is nearly up - 13 dayz cheers l8ta
You mean KQ6 right? Kq7 won't be out until a year from this Christmas.
So, don't hold your breath! <g>
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 3098
To: MARK WOMACK Date: 09/15/93 5:48a
Subj: Space Quest 4 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Can someone help me get un-stuck in this game? I've been stuck at
-> the same place for 3 weeks now. I'm at the manhole and see the
-> transport landing. Anwhere I go from here I get killed right away.
-> I don't even have time to think. I have several items in my
-> inventory but they don't help a bit. This is so very frustrating!
-> I'm really beginning to hate Sierra games because of this. Getting
-> killed every 3 minutes does not make a game any more fun - it just
-> makes it more of a hassle to play.
Now, don't be putting down Sierra games because you're no good at them!
<g>
After the ship lands, head straight over to it and climb up the landing
gear towards the rear. Then the guards come back and it leaves to the
large tower in the background.
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From: ADAM EDWARDS Number: 3099
To: MARK ROUND Date: 09/13/93 11:47a
Subj: Wanted On Cd : D.O.T.T. & Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MR> Hiya Folks,
Hi,
MR> Does anybody have D.O.T.T. (DAY OF THE TENTACLE) for sale on CD?
Nope,
MR> ALSO, can anybody help with a few puzzles in 7th Guest I am stuck on the
MR> Kitchen "Lettered CAN's" puzzle, and also the four white chess and four
MR> chess pieces puzzle - played in the room where you are supposed to play
MR> maze game on the carpet????? Hope this makes sense?
Well here is a clue for the kitchen puzzle: You have to make a sentance
that uses words that mean the same as the words in the following
sentance:
bashfull, nomad, craftily, agilely, meet secretly, near, my, underground
vault.
As to the other puzzle all I know is that they are Bishops and are
subject to the rules of chess and that you have to get the white ones
where the black ones are and viceversa.
Hope this helps
Adam
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From: ADAM EDWARDS Number: 3100
To: DANIEL PRINCE Date: 09/13/93 2:11p
Subj: 16-Bit Sound Cards Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi,
DP> 16-bit card. Would a 16-bit sound card make games written for an
DP> 8-bit card sound better?
Nope.
DP> Does anyone have any opinions on which 16-bit sound card will
DP> become the standard? The Pro Audio Spectrum 16 was the first 16-
DP> bit sound card but the Sound Blaster 16 has the advantage of the
DP> 8-bit SB being the previous standard.
16bit cards are only good for recording and playing back 16bit digital
voices. There aren't currently any games (except maybe 7th guest) that
have 16bit sound (voices) on them. They take up too much space.
DP> Does anyone know exactly what the difference is between the Sound
DP> Blaster 16 and the ASP version? What is the difference between
DP> the Pro Audio Spectrum and Studio?
The ASP is a processor that enable compression and manipulation of Sound.
Good for voice recognition and storage of large sound bytes but not much
else.
DP> He found a review of the Pro Audio Spectrum 16 that said that to
DP> make it Sound Blaster compatible you have to run a driver
DP> program. Does anyone know how big this driver is and if it
DP> can be loaded high? Thank you in advance for all replies.
don't know much about the new PAS16 series sorry.
See ya Adam
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From: DEREK BRYANT Number: 3101
To: ANDY MORRISON Date: 08/30/93 12:59a
Subj: CD-rom Shareware Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Andy..
> I am looking for shareware for ma wee bbs! They require the
You could always go for the Minerva set of Shareware CD's -- you can get all 3
for only 39 quid, and that will give you 18,000 (1.6 Gigs) of files. All the
latest and best files about.
cheers
derek.
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From: RICHARD MAYCOCK Number: 3102
To: KEN HARVEY Date: 09/12/93 2:44p
Subj: Re: MANPOWER - NEW GAY CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
With the medical community
KH> really drifting toward accepting homosexuality as a medical problem
KH> rather than a learned behavior it would be wise to change or atleast
KH> re-evaluate your opinion. You would not get mad at someone because
KH> they had cancer would you?
Homosexuality is analogous to cancer? Well, it will have to go back in
the closet now.
Richard Maycock
... Catch the Blue Wave!
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From: RICHARD MAYCOCK Number: 3103
To: DAVE REED Date: 09/12/93 3:15p
Subj: Re: Your Tagline Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DR> It's JUST a tagline! Besides, when some socialist a**hole can get
DR> elected with 40-some% of the popular vote, against the will of the
DR> majority of our citizens, there's going to be a LOT of angry people!
Three points,
1. You wouldn't know a socialist if one bit your arse.
2. 40% of the vote was good enough to elect
Andrew Jackson (1824) 41.3%
Abraham Lincoln (1860) 39.8%
Woodrom Wilson (1912) 41.8%
and neither Washington, Madison, Jefferson or Monroe ever even had a
popular vote.
3. If you don't accept the validity of an administration with only 40 %
of the votes, which of the losers (with even less) do you consider to be
more valid?
DR> We Americans are in the middle of a crisis, here.
America is in a crisis as soon as it feels threatened. Cuba, Nicauragua,
Libya, Drugs, Japan etc. etc.
See you in the Philosophy echo.
Richard Maycock
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From: CHRIS FLYNN Number: 3104
To: PHIL HORNBY Date: 09/13/93 9:29p
Subj: Kodak Photo CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PD> This is how the system works in the UK
PH> ah-ha...so _you're_ the UK's other PhotoCD user :-)
No, there's me as well. <g>
... A Woman a day keeps the Wife away
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From: CHRIS FLYNN Number: 3105
To: ANDY STEERE Date: 09/13/93 9:32p
Subj: Re: PANASONIC Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AS> 380ms figure. When operated in DV mode (not sure when the SingleSpeed
AS> mode is ever used), this is a 320ms drive.
Single speed is used for audio CDs. They'd sound pretty yuck otherwise.
Then again, some might sound better. <g>
... You are making progress if each mistake is a new one.
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From: PADDY DRURY Number: 3106
To: RICHARD KLEISER Date: 09/11/93 2:44a
Subj: Re: Help Me Please!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Regarding which to buy
I have the panasonic running with a gravis ultrasnd all this into
a dell 486
I can not say about speed as this is the only setup I have used
but I have had NO problems with this. I did need some advise on
playing audio cds but it was just me being thick.
a well recomended setup
Paddy
... wat the hex a decimal anyway
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From: KEVIN SULLIVAN Number: 3107
To: KEN CHAN Date: 09/13/93 12:15a
Subj: mail order Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
KC> Have anyone tried mail ordering cd-rom disks? What is the procedure
KC>and most of all, can you trust them?
Yes. Have a VISA credit card, easiest way to order. Watch the echo for a
few weeks and see who gets high marks from qualified sources. The names
you see over and over are legit dealers, and are aware of the 10-line
advertising rule. If you see some huge ad over 10 lines, it is automatically
suspect in my book as the guy just pops in to plug something but doesn't
know or care about the rules of the echo. I ordered from Boris Osadciw,
and had no trouble at all, considering it was overseas and I am impatient.
He answers his phone and does what he says. A pro.
Several others are regulars as well, and that suggests they are honest or
they just wouldn't last in this echo if they were untrustworthy.
Occasional idiot buyers will yelp and malign, but you can usually read
between the lines on those, and a good dealer will have virtually no
enemies here. And, by the same token, a good dealer does not waste his
time bashing or running down other dealers with an axe to grind, even if
the other dealer does deserve some censure once in a while. Find a cool
tempered pro.
But the cruds who go over 10 lines are obviously new and perhaps
fly-by-nighters, or they know and don't care so they abuse rules and perhaps
other ethics with your money as well, or just plain stupid, so I avoid them
like the plague and suggest you do the same. They won't last and probably
don't follow the echo regularly, which says something to me of their
dedication to this market and their business practices. The guys that
sell here on a regular basis don't foul their own nest, so to speak,
or they did it once and were never heard from again. Go with regulars.
With private sales, all bets are off.
This is one view from 3 months of reading this echo and shelling out
over US$1250 here.
* SPEED 1.20 [NR] * ... Veni, vidi, vendi -- I came, I saw, I sold.
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From: KEVIN SULLIVAN Number: 3108
To: MIKE AVILA Date: 09/13/93 7:39p
Subj: ProAudioStudio + T7Guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MA>I have the PAStudio16 and I love it.
Thanks again for getting me running with the PAStudio / Texel combo. BTW,
the kit has finally arrived (again?) at the post office, will pick up
tomorrow.
My question today: Can the 7th Guest be configured to work with the driver
NOT in SB compatibility mode? I spent a couple of hours playing the
DMA and IRQ shuffle with PAS orig and PAS + modes, but T7G complained it
couldn't find the hardware. What can/must be done to make T7G recognize
the PAS in native mode? Any advantage, i.e. 16 bit sound instead of SB 2.0
mono 8-bit?
Thanks again for all tips on setting it up, and any other CDrom programs
that can use the excellent PAS card in native mode.
* SPEED 1.20 [NR] * I knew something was wrong the moment she bit my nose.
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From: KEVIN SULLIVAN Number: 3109
To: DAVE REED Date: 09/16/93 12:04a
Subj: Southern Beasties Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CB> I'm sick of reading crap like this (from everyone).
DR>BTW... I don't participate in this market any longer.
Good riddance.
* SPEED 1.20 [NR] * I'd give you a piece of my mind, but I'm on the last 1.
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From: KEVIN SULLIVAN Number: 3110
To: ADAM EDWARDS Date: 09/16/93 12:10a
Subj: Sound combatible Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AE>Seventh Guest has a patch to fix soundcard and video problems and also a
AE>patch to support the GUS directly instead of through SBOS.
Notice if a patch for the PAStudio 16 in native (not SB) mode was there?
* SPEED 1.20 [NR] * I'll mix metaphors until the cows come home to roost.
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From: DICK HUDDLESTON Number: 3111
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 09/14/93 2:44p
Subj: CDs Arrived Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Bob, the CDs arrived and look great! I haven't had a chance to
try to fire them up, but wanted to let you know I appreciate them
and they will add a lot to my collection...Thanks.
... ABCD GIF? LMNO GIF. OSMRAB.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
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From: DAVE WONG Number: 3112
To: JAMES WILLIAMS Date: 09/16/93 12:59p
Subj: Mitsumi CD-ROM Audio Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
YOU HAVE TO SWITCH THE PIN AROUND. WHAT I MEAN IS YOU HAVE A FOUR PLUG
CONNECTOR, CORRECT. THE 2 OUTSIDE CONNECTION SHOULD CONNECT TO THE 2 INSIDE,
AND THE 2 INSIDE CONNECTS TO THE 2 OUTSIDE. BOY, THIS SOUNDS CONFUSING DOESNT
IT, BUT ITS NOT. A SIMPLE WAY IS TO GET A Y-PLUG TO DO THE SWITCH. MAYBE, I'M
NOT EXPLAINING THIS RIGHT, BUT IT WORKS
--- Maximus 2.01wb
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From: DAVE WONG Number: 3113
To: IAN DALWOOD Date: 09/16/93 1:19p
Subj: RE: BUYING A CD-ROM PACKA Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
THAT'S PACKAGE YOU MENTION. THE FUSION 16 IS EXACTLY WHAT I'M ABOUT TO BUY. CAN
YOU TELL ME ANY ADVANTAGE AND PITFALL I MAY ENCOUNTER. THE PRICE FOR THE BUNCLE
HERE IN SEATTLE IS $400.00 US. ANY SUGGESTION WOULD BE HELPFUL. BY THE WAY I'LL
BE GOING TO AUSTRALIA NEXT MONTH, HOW'S THE WEATHER?
--- Maximus 2.01wb
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From: JOHN RACKLEY Number: 3114
To: PETER LASNE Date: 09/16/93 11:38p
Subj: Re: AMIGA CD ROM.. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Peter, thanks for the reply. I do not have an Amiga, but wouldn't mind
getting one in the form of a CD32 if the CD-ROM could be controlled
externally by my IBM. Adding the Amiga keyboard and floppy would come later.
What's the news on the CD32, when is it going to be released?
To the best of my knowledge, ParNet is an Amiga-only network. I'd be
iterested in using a SCSI network with different types of computers (other
than just Amiga-only).
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From: GARY HOFFERMAN Number: 3115
To: ALL Date: 09/17/93 8:56a
Subj: Cdrom dealers wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello All,
We are looking for resellers and system builders who would be interested in
marketing and/or bundling commercial, shareware, and adult CDROM software. We
offer a complete list of popular titles along with competitive pricing.
If you would be interested, please contact me at Consolidated CDROM
215-276-3657 voice, or 215-276-3657 fax (Principals Only)
Thanks,
Gary
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From: JEFF COLLINGWOOD Number: 3116
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/17/93 9:23a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 9 SPECIALS Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
Hello Mike!
In a message to Jeff Collingwood <09/15/93> Mike Shannon wrote:
MS> JC>In a message to Mike Shannon <09/11/93> Doug Carpenter wrote:
MS> JC>DC> Give it a rest....
MS> JC>Hey Doug, you started it, now you ask him to give it a rest! It
MS> Good point Jeff, except I wasn't trying to "bicker" with Doug. He simply
MS> stated that he had "lots more" CD's that were newer (i.e. contained newer
I can see that is one way of interpreting what you were saying.
It is hard when we are dealing with written communication to
understand exactly what a person is saying because we normally
rely on facial expressions, body language, tone of voice and
other things so we can properly interpret what is being said.
Neither of you guys could have been bickering possibly, you could
have been asking a genuine question and he could have been just
poking you in the ribs. I am sure you guys know each other and
may have some relationship built that I am not aware of. Anyway
enough said.
I didn't introduce myself but I met you at ONEBBSCON. I hope you
had a successful show. I know I had a wonderful time. I am
really looking forward to next years show.
...Jeff...
* WCE 1.10/2020 * ************ ßeta testers are CRAZY! ************
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 3117
To: DONNIE RAYNOR Date: 09/17/93 4:02p
Subj: Mitsumi CD-Rom drive for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Donnie!
15 Sep 93, Donnie Raynor writes to All:
DR> Mitsumi CD-Rom drive for sale two months old with interface, docs, and
DR> interface card. Still in box. $175.00 I'll pay shipping.
I have a extra $150 I can spare, if you will take it? Can call 512-939-9822 or
leave reply
Pat
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3118
To: SERGE STOCKWELL Date: 09/16/93 10:04a
Subj: AUCUN Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SS>c'est quand la rentrée pour toi.
SS>as tu fini ton stage?
SS>je peux peut etre passer chez toi un jour.
SS>as tu des nouvelles de l'ours ?
SS>moi je rentre le 13/09!!!
SS>bref donne moi des nouvelles ...
SS>si tu as le temps tu peux aller faire un tours sur un nouveau BBS ouvert de
SS>22h30 a 3h DEFCON V c'est pas mal le n° 64.59.61.20.
SS>aller a+++
SS> Serge.
This is an international echo, use English please.
Bob Hall
moderator.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3119
To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Date: 09/16/93 10:06a
Subj: SUPER PHOTOBANK Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Ismail....
Please tell your NC why you are going against the rules of this echo.
Bob Hall
Moderator.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3120
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/16/93 10:07a
Subj: FOR SALE-CD ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
10 line limit on ads in this echo..
Bob Hall
Moderator.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3121
To: LEE NOGA Date: 09/16/93 10:11a
Subj: BUSTY BABES VOL II-NEW Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LN>Before you try to ride me out of dodge, Bob said I could mention that the
LN>new, "Busty Babes Vol II" will be ready for dealers
Now don't tell me you are going to start a trend and listen to me?
I still want tickets (front row seats) to the great pissing contest. If
a cooking contest is a cook off, is a pissing contest a piss-off????
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm confused myself.
BOB
:-)<--== wearing a tie today.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3122
To: CHARLES STRUSZ Date: 09/16/93 10:15a
Subj: CUSTOM CD-ROM PRODUCTION Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CS>HEY SYSOP! ----- ONE OF CD'S ! ----- HEY SYSOP!
Sorry, but there is a 10 line limit on ads in this echo..
Thanks
Bob Hall
Moderator.
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■ SLMR 2.1a ■ He is not only dull within, but causes dullness without.
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From: ROB LIBRIZZI Number: 3123
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/15/93 9:10p
Subj: RED HOT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Boris,
I'm with a CD Rom Sig in our local PC User Group here in Florida.
How can I get a copy of your complete Price List. If via your BBS please leave
number. If you can send me a copy
Rob Librizzi
224 Pinedo Drive
Titusville, Fl 32780
You do have some GREAT Prices...............
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From: ROB LIBRIZZI Number: 3124
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/15/93 9:12p
Subj: NEW CD'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Boris,
What date(s) are on the DR series of CD's. are they 1992-1993, mostly 1993
or are there a bunch of 1991 & 1992 files ???
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From: ROB LIBRIZZI Number: 3125
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 09/15/93 9:17p
Subj: MAIL ORDER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Jim,
Please send a catalog TO:
Rob Librizzi
224 Pinedo Drive
Titusville, Fl 32780
THANKS in Advance
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From: ROB LIBRIZZI Number: 3126
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/16/93 7:07p
Subj: SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD! Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
Hey Mike what are the specials this week for us NON BBS Sysops. I mean CD's
that the common man (or woman) would buy for personal use....
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From: ROB LIBRIZZI Number: 3127
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/16/93 7:27p
Subj: CD LIST Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Neil,
I would like a CD Price List:
Rob Librizzi
224 Pinedo Drive
Titusville, Fl 32780
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From: ROB LIBRIZZI Number: 3128
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/16/93 7:45p
Subj: 10 LINES Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
Well then - will you send a catalog out or a price list
TO:
Rob Librizzi
224 Pinedo Drive
Titusville, Fl 32780
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From: DENIS COLEMAN Number: 3129
To: KEN CHAN Date: 09/14/93 11:07p
Subj: mail order Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi,
> Hello
> Have anyone tried mail ordering cd-rom disks?
> What is the procedure and most of all, can you trust
> them?
If you give me your address i'll post you my mmail order listing.
Regards Denis
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From: DENIS COLEMAN Number: 3130
To: ALL Date: 09/14/93 11:14p
Subj: CD's in Australia Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi,
If any Australian Residents would like a free Mail order catalogue of cd's
please write to me at
56 Buchanan Rd
Berwick
Victoria 3806.
Regards
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From: TIM WENAS Number: 3131
To: ED TURNOCK Date: 09/15/93 4:52p
Subj: What Is "Mpc-compatible S Refer: NONE
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From: ED TURNOCK Refer#: NONE
To: ALL Recvd: NO
Subj: What is "MPC-compatible s Conf: (79) CDROM
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ET>Got a new "Power up" catalog today and it has some very good deals on CDROMS
ET>However, and you knew there had to be one, some of them are flagged as
ET>needing a "MPC-compatible system".
ET>Does anyone know what this is? I called the power up 800 number and the guy
ET>that answered didn't know either, although he promised to find out and said
ET>if I would call tomorrow he would know
Um.... I believe that an MPC compatible PC is a computer that meets the
"MICROSTUFFED" definition of a multimedia computer, ie: <off the top of
my head>:
-286 or higher, 1 mg ram, 30mg HD, 8bit sound card and some kind of
CD-rom drive.
I believe there is also a "level 2" standard, as the first standard was
rather low.
I don't own a CD-ROM drive -YET-, but I expect to possess one by January
94. BTW, anyone got any advice or comments on the Panasonic /Creative
Labs CD-ROM drives?
-T-
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From: JON DERAGON Number: 3132
To: TIM WENAS Date: 09/14/93 11:09p
Subj: Sound cards and cd-roms Refer: NONE
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Hi! Well, I think there are some other factors that you have to take into
consideration when you are buying a CD-ROM drive. First, I would highly
recommend a CADDY drive. I am sure there will be people out there that would
contradict that but I assure you, its definately an important part. The reason
why is the tray type leaves the disc exposed. Think about an accidental
scratch? There is a possibly faital block of data gone rendering the disc
useless. With a caddy drive, each time you buy a new CD-ROM disk, you also buy
a CADDY for it, which will add around $8-9 to the price but worth it. Think
about it, continual protection from fingers, dust, everything. And you never
have to remove them from the caddy ever again. Perfect. Thats why Im awaiting
the MD disc's in the audio world because they are built like a 1.44 disk but
smaller. But with the same capacity (compressed) as a normal Compact Disc.
The other consideration to take into mind, is dust protection while the disc
is inside. For thoughs two reasons and the features that you described before I
would recommend the NEC CDR-84-I drive. It has double dust doors, caddy drive,
multi-session, the original double spin drive, and its by the top company NEC.
Its also XA compliant which is important for future compatibility. The one with
the SB16asp is Panasonic, which is one of the only CD-ROMS the SB's SCSI
interface can handle. I have heard rave reviews for both the ProStudioSpectrum
and the SB16asp its really hard to say, I think compatibility wise for SB
software you woulf d go for just that. Although I have only had minor problems
with my PAS. There is a PAS kit you may be interested in most definately, which
includes a PAS card, the NEC CDR-84-I I was talking about, and some hot CD-ROMS
INCLUDING 7th GUEST, (DING DING!!!), so you may want to try that one, I know
you can get it through MicroArts Melbourne.
Hope that helps, if you have any other questions just ask me!
Jon Deragon
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From: TOM BULUM Number: 3133
To: POE LIM Date: 09/15/93 12:24a
Subj: Aus. 562B distributor? Refer: NONE
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-=> Poe Lim was heard mumbling to Marc Circosta about Aus. 562B distributor?<=-
PL> Hello Marc,
PL> On Sep 04 09:51 in a msg to All, Marc Circosta of 3:713/618 wrote:
> Just wondering if I could ask a about the availablity of the new
> Panasonic 562B drive that everybody seems to be tac...), or maybe
PL> Yes they are available, cir A$450 RRP last time I looked.
^^^^^
Hiya Poe,
whereabouts can I get this for this price? Eagerly awaiting reply.
Tom.
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From: PATRICK MCCORMICK Number: 3134
To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 09/18/93 7:54a
Subj: Hitachi Cd-Rom Drives Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Terry,
I was wondering if you still had any of the used Hatachi 3500
drives and if so could you tell me some stuff about them. Like do you
have the drivers for OS/2 2.1 with them are they compatible with OS/2
and are you still selling them for the same price.
Thanks..
Patrick..
... Catch the Blue Wave!
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From: DAVID FATTAHIAN Number: 3135
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/18/93 8:48a
Subj: SEPTEMBER PRICES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Adrian:
Could you shoot me one of your catalogs?
D. Fattahian
6329 N. London, Apt A
Kansas City, MO 64151
Thanks...
Dave
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From: HENRY NEWTON Number: 3136
To: ALL Date: 09/18/93 8:15a
Subj: Dept of Defense Phone CD Refer: NONE
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I'm looking for a CDROM that contains Dept of Defense phone numbers. I
have been told some company sells this but have been unable to locate
company. May be "who's who in DoD". Thanks in advance.
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From: STEVE GERWECK Number: 3137
To: TREVOR HANWELL Date: 09/17/93 7:22p
Subj: Busty Babes Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Trevor Hanwell to Pat Rickerson <=-
TH> $250.00!!!!!!!!! I don't think so. I have seen it in Toronto for
TH> $49.95 - $69.95. I haven't seen any of those CD's over $80.00 Don't
TH> know where you got it but you got ripped off.
They're selling BB I for that price in Canada???
Steve
... Billary...the first androgynous president!
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From: JACKIE KING Number: 3138
To: ALL Date: 09/18/93 1:22a
Subj: help! Refer: NONE
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hi, i need help bad!
i need a cd-rom driver........
i have a toshiba cd-rom m3401b
i also have a adaptec scsi controller 1542
and a fujitsu 1.7 meg hard drive 2652 sa
and im running sstor.sys, and wat to keep running that.....
so what i need is a device driver for cd-rom that does not require that
i load aspi4dos.sys driver because i cant run both that and sstor.sys
at the same time, and i would rather use sstor.sys because aspi4dos.sys
doesnt work well with windows...... can you help?
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From: RICK NAY Number: 3139
To: JON DERAGON Date: 09/18/93 1:09p
Subj: Re: Sound cards and cd-roms Refer: NONE
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Please you can play frisbee with cd..I've had a C.d player for my stereo for
years and have never had a c.d go bad..why incur the extra expense of buying
caddies..besides the texel drive is only good for 15,000 times..that means
after putting a caddies in appox. 15,000 times it can go bad..I know people who
have had tray loading cd since they came out.. i have a tray loading type on my
computer and i like it just fine..what ever floats your boat..
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From: WILLIAM SCHNEIDER, JR. Number: 3140
To: DAVID SCHENK Date: 09/15/93 8:38p
Subj: Smartdrv as cache Refer: NONE
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DS>Why you dont use the Cache in the MSCDEX Driver ?
I didn't know that it had one. Looking at that again, I see that it
pre-set at 15. Thanks!
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From: PAUL SWIDER Number: 3141
To: CRASH MAN Date: 09/16/93 8:38p
Subj: Sound card connection Refer: NONE
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On 09-13-93 Crash Man wrote to Paul Swider...
CM>
CM> What if you already have a SCSI controller (in my case,
CM> Adaptek) and only one device connected to it (HDD)? Are you better
CM> off connecting the CD-Rom to the Sound Card (SB-Pro) or to the
CM> controller?
CM> Are there any dis/advantages in either case?
I guess in your example it would depend on the type of CDROM drive you
wanted and the drivers available to you. So if you prefer a certain drive,
for whatever reason, ie. price, performance, etc., just make sure it'll work
with what you have because it looks like you can go either route. Before you
buy, ask a lot of questions of the dealer to make sure it'll work with what
you have though. I haven't connected a CDROM drive to either device you
mentioned so can't give you a more straight forward answer than this. I have
one system in the house that is connected directly to the sound card and
another has a sound card and a SCSI card driving the CDROM. Both work well.
Other than taking up an extra slot in one system I don't see any real dis/
advantages in either case. >Paul<
... OFFLINE 1.50 "Standards are wonderful. So many to choose from!"
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From: RJ KULMAN Number: 3142
To: BRUCE CLAUNCH Date: 09/14/93 8:01p
Subj: NEC cd-37 lockup Refer: NONE
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BC>Now thats something I did not think of, Thanks
BC>Bruce
keep this in MIND... TERMINATION MUST be a BOTH ENDS. You may also have
to remove a jumper on your card, for active termination...some cards require
this in addition to standard termination.
good luck
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From: GABRIEL KLYBER Number: 3143
To: ALL Date: 09/16/93 5:25p
Subj: Sb16&cd-rom Refer: NONE
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I have a SB16 and would like to hook a CD-ROM up to it. I know it only works
with Mitsumi/Panasonic. I've heard of a new Mitsumi double-spin CD-ROM. Has
anyone else heard or seen this? I was wondering what the price was. Any info
would be appreciated. Thanks.
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From: STEVE MANN Number: 3144
To: TIM WENAS Date: 09/16/93 4:27p
Subj: Cl Sbpro16/Cd-Rom Combo Refer: NONE
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> Soundblaster Pro 16
> Panasonic <I think> CD-ROM drive, 300kb/s, multi-speed double
> thing Bookshelf, Sherlock holmes, voice recognition softs and
> about 3 other CDs all for about $799 Aust.
> Has anyone had experience with the Creative Labs multimedia
> bundle, esp. with the CD drive, and what are your opinions?
> ! Origin: Empire BBS +61(3)591-0020 (4 lines) (3:635/550)
Tim, I have been looking into 16bit sound/ double speed CD drives for several
weeks now. After initially favouring the PAS16 + SCSI CD combination I decided,
three days ago, to go for the SB kit.
There is a very good review in PC Magazine (May or Jun 93 I think, definitely
after April) on sound boards which rated the PAS slightly ahead of the SB. But
on balance when considering the included software, the cost, the ease of
installation and software compatibility, the SB comes out well in front in my
opinion.
My question to you is where did you find the price of $799 for this kit. I have
checked out all over Sydney and have found prices ranging from $850 to $1300. I
would appreciate it if you could netmail me with any of the details (Shop,
address, phone, prices etc.).
Hope this is helpful.
Cheers, Steve
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From: STEVE MANN Number: 3145
To: ALL Date: 09/16/93 5:11p
Subj: Where to buy SB16/MM upgrade kit Refer: NONE
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I have been shopping around (Sydney) for several weeks now for a MM Upgrade
kit. A week ago I decided to buy the SB16 / double spin drive kit. Since then
I have had a difficult time comparing the offerings of Sydney's retail outlets.
The kits I have seen seem to vary so much in price and content that it is
difficult to compare one shop with another. I have found similar kits to vary
in price by $500 from one shop to another.
Can anyone recommend a particular SB kit and where to buy it for a reasonable
price.
Note: In my previous message I am replying to Tim Wenas who writes from
Melbourne that a similar kit can be bought for $799. This sounds good to me.
Thanks,
Steve.
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From: CHRISTOPHER BURKE Number: 3146
To: DAVE REED Date: 09/08/93 9:36p
Subj: Your Tagline Refer: NONE
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In a message on <Sep0821:36, Dave Reed (1:344/79) writes:
TS> If you answer yes to any one question, please depoliticise
TS> your taglines Thanking you from downunder - please don't ask
TS> us Aussies to tell you about OUR politics:)
DR> It's JUST a tagline! Besides, when some socialist a**hole can
DR> get elected with 40-some% of the popular vote, against the will
DR> of the majority of our citizens, there's going to be a LOT of
DR> angry people! At least allow them to vent a little steam in a
DR> harmless tagline.
You obviously missed our famous Joh premier of Qld for a long time (was it 10
years or more) til 1988. He was being elected on 25% or less of the popular
vote.
DR> Thanks for your understanding. We Americans are in the middle of
DR> a crisis, here.
We did our complaining in the correct forum. You don't hear us complaining
about Paul Keating putting our petrol up by 10cents a ..... OOPS!!
See you around...
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From: DAVID POMEROY Number: 3147
To: ALL Date: 09/16/93 6:28p
Subj: cd-roms Refer: NONE
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Hi! Is anyone there interested in joining a New Zealand or possibly
Australasian CD-ROM users group..... I'm very tempted to set one up, as it is
badly needed for us down under users. If you think if would be a good idea,
and you'd be interested in joining at a later stage, leave me a message. I'd
like to hear from you. Also, if you can think of things you'd like to see
covered and a fair joining fee (ie: AUS $20, NZ $30 etc), I'd appreciate your
views. If we can get a group underway, perhaps it would put us in a good
bargaining position with CD-ROM suppliers - thus lowering the price for
everyone. EMAIL me with your ideas!!!!
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From: PHILIP MARTELLI Number: 3148
To: DAVID POMEROY Date: 09/17/93 9:23a
Subj: Re: CDROM User's Group Refer: NONE
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1 - Yes, Count me in
2 - Yes, you'll get a good deal from the suppliers :-)
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From: AUSTEN EVANS Number: 3149
To: GAETANO CALIA Date: 09/14/93 9:54a
Subj: CR-562 PROBS Refer: NONE
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Did you find the problem with Windows and the Video clips locking up ???
If so, PLEASE let me know the fix !!!
Ta,
Austen.
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From: GREG MCDONELL Number: 3150
To: ALL Date: 09/16/93 12:34p
Subj: Encarta Sound Refer: NONE
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I've had an error message on Microsoft Encarta which struck me
as curious, perhaps someone can help.
When trying to run any of the sound clips, it would give me
a message "No wave driver loaded", or something like that.
I'm using a SB16, with MIDI and Wave drivers loaded under Win3.1.
Is this product trying to tell me I have to go out and get an ASP
or a wavetable daughterboard on my SB16, just to get _any_ sound??
Thanks in advance, Greg
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From: SEAN TUDOR Number: 3151
To: TIM WENAS Date: 09/17/93 7:47a
Subj: Re: Cl Sbpro16/Cd-Rom Combo Refer: NONE
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-=> and Tim Wenas was heard mumbling to All <=-
Hi Tim,
TW> Has anyone had experience with the Creative Labs multimedia bundle,
TW> esp. with the CD drive, and what are your opinions? Can you recommend
TW> any other multimedia kits? I've seen a double PAS-16, which is roughly
TW> the equivalent <i think> but costs about $1299 Aust.
I'm using a Sound Blaster 16 with a Panasonic CR-562-B double speed drive.
I've now been using the new drive for about three weeks and have had no
problems with it at all. It's very fast and the motorised tray makes it
so easy to load/unload CD-ROM's.
Cya,
Sean.
... Jurassic Sparcs - the first computers with dinosaur power ...
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From: RICHARD ROBB Number: 3152
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/18/93 12:00a
Subj: RULES OF THE ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
Thanks for publishing the rules of the echo, Bob. You're doing a good
job.
However, now that the reasons for removing mention of XXX topics have
been cited, I must say I'm disappointed in your reasoning. While it's
true that children read the echo, that is a reason for banning *discussion* of
adult topics. But that is hardly a reason for banning
advertising of XXX CD disks. After all, Penthouse, Playboy, etc., are
all advertised for sale in all sorts of public venues that children
frequent. They simply can't buy them. The same rule should hold here.
In my opinion, your advertisers' freedom to seek customers, and your
readers' freedom to find available CD's, has been compromised for a
flimsy reason. (Many BBS's, including those in my area, do not carry
a CDROMSALES echo.) I hope you will allow the simple advertising of
adult titles and prices, while continuing to ban discussion of adult
topics or the material on those disks. That would be fair, and would
be consistent with society's overall acceptance of the mention of
adult titles on magazines, theater marquees, etc.
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From: STEAN SNYMAN Number: 3153
To: ALL Date: 09/16/93 1:37p
Subj: Panasonic CR523b Refer: NONE
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Hello All!
I recently buyed the abovementioned drive, and'll like to know some stuff on
it :
1) Whatsa biggest CD it supports?
2) Is it photo-CD compatible
3) Multi-session
4) Is it a wise choice to leave my CD's in caddies and have a seperate caddie
for each disk, or should I interchange them? (its a REAL bother to get them out
every time :-(()
5) Will any caddie fit on the drive?
6) Anything else you think I should know? ;-)
Another thing : When watching video in windows it sometimes happens that
garbage comes up inbetween the pic, and then disappears again gradually
(allmost as if it reads incorrectly). Is this due to slow video cards (Tseng
ET4000 (BOCA) card with 1MB ram and no HiColour :-(()
Hope ya can help...
CU
Stean
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From: STEAN SNYMAN Number: 3154
To: JOHN KORTINK Date: 09/16/93 1:55p
Subj: DOTT & Sound Galaxy NX Pro Refer: NONE
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Hello John!
Sunday September 12 1993, John Kortink writes to All:
JK> Anyone know the solution ? Or is DOTT whacked ? Anyone has any
experiences
JK> with this sound card, good or bad ?
I run a Panasonic CR523b CD on a Sound Galaxy NX PRO card direct from it's
interface.. I didn't try DOTT, but if the 7th g works then dott must be
whaked. All I know is that I like me SGNXPRO card, and its GREAT! Cheap and
better on some feilds than the SBPRO (like built in DAC on LPT), but the only
prob with the card is that on some stereo apps the speakers swaps about every
half second to 1 second, which can be quite annoying.. But most apps works
fine!
CU
Stean
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From: DON BOSMAN Number: 3155
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 09/15/93 2:18p
Subj: Oxford English Dictionar Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JL>GS>Has anyone seen the Oxford English Dictionary CD-ROM at a decent price?
JL> >List price is $895.00. I'd like to see it "somewhat" lower.
JL>Is this the same thing as the Oxford English Reference Library? I may
JL>be able to get it for you for somewhere around $100.
No, drat.
The OED on CD is the whole thing. The original thing that is. One
review said the search engine wasn't something the average user could
navigate very well, but for the professional word freak it will allow
searching the meanings and usages throughout the dictionary.
Wouldn't it be a trip to hook your spell checker into the OED? It might
take an hour to do a letter, but it would be meaningful. ;-)
___
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From: JOSEPH THOMAS Number: 3156
To: SCOTT DAVIS Date: 09/18/93 6:48a
Subj: MITSUMI OS/2 DRIVER Refer: NONE
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Mine is not a beta
I cannot send it thru BBS ( it would be illegal).
Florida driver has an updated version, which has audio also.
Tnx.
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From: DUANE MERRY Number: 3157
To: PETER SAMULEVICH Date: 09/17/93 7:22p
Subj: Hitachi Drivers for OS/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TB> Peter Samulevich wrote in a message to All:
PS> Does anyone have the drivers for the Hitachi 1700S? I
PS> would be more than happy to call your board and d/l
PS> them, or FREQ them from you. As it stands right now, I
PS> have to use a VDM to use the CD-ROM and there's a lot of
PS> software that I really cannot use because of this. HELP!!!
How do you like the Hitachi CD-ROM drive? I just received one. I
haven't hooked it up yet. The vendor that I bought it from said it
came with everything I needed, but there was no SCSI card. So I
have to get one. Oh, well.
... A desk is a garbage can with drawers...
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From: BERT BURLAND Number: 3158
To: WARREN DANIO Date: 09/16/93 4:21p
Subj: HAM CD REVIEW Refer: NONE
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Hello Warren!
Tuesday September 14 1993 11:55, Warren Danio wrote to All:
WD> I just got HAMWARE 1993 V1.0 from Mike Shannon at Starvector
WD> Software and believe me if I had known what was on this disk
WD> I would not have accepted it..
WD> to 1993 with most files prior to 1993.
WD> Incidently this Disc contains less than 180 Megs of files
WD> In closing I would not reccomend this disc to anybody
WD> interested in ham radio.. This Disc is in the same catigory
WD> as Chestnuts Ham radio 3.0, and that is the BEST thing I can
WD> say about this collection of of useless words. Save your money..
WD> THIS DISC IS NOT WORTH $10. MUCH LESS THE $28. THAT IT COST
WD> Nobody asked, This is My OPINION.
WD> 73s de Warren K1BVZ/4
Never the less, thank's for expressing it! I too bought the Chestnut Ham Radio
and was amazed at the shear lack of concern for duplications, outdated and
worthless material. Monitoring Times Magazine gave a glowing review of this
disc and I now wonder about Monitoring Times because the disc is just plain
trash!
Thanks for telling it like it is Warren and please do continue to tell it like
it is. I can save some bucks for quality disc like the Pier1,2 and Nightowl's
ect. Drop by my bbs some time.
Bert aka N5TOA
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From: BERT BURLAND Number: 3159
To: WILLIAM T. MCCLAIN Date: 09/16/93 4:38p
Subj: Mitsumi CD Rom Drive Refer: NONE
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Hello William!
Wednesday September 15 1993 02:46, William T. Mcclain wrote to All:
WTM> A friend of mine runs a BBS and needs to know if the Mitsumi CD ROM
WTM> drive (I think the model is LU005) will access the full 680 MB of data
Mine wont! If I do not access the last five directories of a Pier1 disc the
Mitsumi will work.
WTM> from a CD ROM disk. Would appreciate any information on this.
Using the file browser "List" on the Mitsumi drive and the disc "Pier1" loaded
I can access the first directory just fine and so on but if I jump to one of
the last few directories List will just hang for like two minutes and DOS will
then return "Drive not ready Abort Retry Fail". If I start at directory 1 and
access it then go to directory 2 access it then 3 and 4 and so on continue to
the last directory I can then read the last directories but it will always hang
when jumping from widely spaced directories. The Mitsumi works just fine on
smaller disc around 450 Megs but goes out to lunch on the large ones. Look
around for a better drive if Your going to be accessing big disc and more so
for a BBS with big old bbs ready shareware disc loaded.
The Dealers will tell You otherwise because they are selling them right and
left. I run a BBS and have gone through it Bubba.
WTM> ... Thanks a lot. Mac in Tampa, FL
Your Welcome!
Bert: telling it like it is from the Windy Plains of Texas.
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3160
To: CHRIS WOOD Date: 09/18/93 1:31a
Subj: Re: DR. CD Collection Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Boris Osadciw wrote in a message to Chris Wood:
BO>> Already done Chris !! Should be Online sometime this week,
BO>> but it will be and ORDER LINE ONLY and we will not give out
BO>> product support nor offer any price comparisions. It will
BO>> strickly be so our friends in Canada will be able to place
BO>> an order without any international long distance costs.
>> Make sure you post that handy dandy # for all of us Canucks
>> when it gets into place.
Chris, our toll free number for Canada is the same as it is for the
US. It's 800-243-0517 and I'am told it's in place already.
Since we're leaving to go up there this week, I'll give it a call from
there and make sure it works...grin -:)
Chat with you soon.....
BTW: As I stated, this is an ORDER LINE ONLY and any inquires or price
shopping will not be allowed. If you know what you want, call the number,
if you don't, please call our normal number at 216-225-3263 anytime
and we'll be happy to assist anyone that way.
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... The Far East pirate's choice!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3161
To: ALL Date: 09/18/93 1:31a
Subj: PANASONIC CDROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
)))))))))))))))))) P A N A S O N I C 5 6 2 ((((((((((((((((((((
The ALL NEW Panosonic 562 is here and ready for delievery!!
340ms access time / 300kps transfer rate
Multi-Spin / SB Compatiable / with Interface
Complete Ready To Run - Price - $249.00
FREE C.C.I T-Shirt With Order
500+ CDROM Tiltes To Select From
ORDER'S ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517
TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3162
To: ALL Date: 09/18/93 1:31a
Subj: SPECIAL Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
C D R O M B L O W O U T S P E C I A L S
1993 Guiness World Book - $29. Mario Is Missing - $20.
Mayo Clinic - $20. San Diego Zoo The Animals! - $20.
MicroSoft Works/BookShelf - $80. Sports Best - $15.
Shareware Online #2 - $35. Shareware Studio #3 - $19.
Software Vault Gold - $25. Night Owl Graphics - $25.
FREE C.C.I T-SHIRT with $100. order or more !!!
SPECIAL BUNDLE - Mario Is Missing, Mavis Beacons Teaches Typing,
Chessmaster 3000 & US/World Atlas - Price - $50.
ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 Tec/Ques 216-225-3263 Fax 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress!
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 3163
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 09/17/93 2:46p
Subj: Re: CD SALES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BJ>JL> Here is the breakdown of my gross sales year-to-date:
BJ>JL> Shareware 48.2%
BJ>JL> Adult 38.5% (BBS & End User)
BJ>JL> General 11.3%
BJ>JL> Caddies & 2%
>JL> Jewel Cases
BJ>Can you break down this data by sysop/end-user?
Sorry, Bob. I have no idea whether the buyers of the adult titles were
sysops or not. All I track is what titles sold.
Jim...
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From: RICK NAY Number: 3164
To: STEVEN BALDASSARRA Date: 09/17/93 10:22p
Subj: Re: Sony CDU-31A Refer: NONE
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They made the drive so I would hope they now what there talking about..its not
the fastest drive but its not also the slowest..
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From: NEIL BERGMAN Number: 3165
To: ALL Date: 09/16/93 11:55p
Subj: DISCOUNT CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
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SHORELINE CD-ROM'S DISCOUT PRICES
These are just a few examples of our low prices...We have over 300
titles in stock.
WING COMMANDER & ULTIMA VI $15.53
WORLD ATLAS (MPC OR DOS) $15.53
KODAK PHOTO CD $15.53
ANIMALS MPC (SAN DIEGO ZOO) $20.70
DAGGER OF AMON RA $32.78 TOO MANY MORE TO LIST!!!
KINGS QUEST V $16.74
LOOM $14.66 FOR A COMPLETE CATALOG, LEAVE
SUPER SHAREWARE/w/SUPER BBS $31.05 E-mail ADDRESS OR POSTAL
TERRORIST GROUP PROFILES (CIA) $31.91 ADDRESS!!!!
NIGHT OWL 9 $30.19
UP ALL NIGHT $18.11
***ADULT***
ASIAN LADIES $31.91 (BBS READY)
THINGS CHANGE:MY FIRST TIME $37.09 (XXX 80 MIN FULL MOTION VIDEO)
MOVING FANTASIES $19.85 (BBS READY)
VISUAL FANTASIES $19.85 (BBS READY)
VOLCANO $32.78 (BBS READY)
SOUTHERN BEAUTIES $31.91 (BBS READY)
STAREWARE $31.91 (BBS READY)
STORM I,II,III $22.38 (EACH!) BBS READY
HIDDEN OBSESSIONS $48.00 (FULL MOTION VIDEO)
SEXXCAPADES-THE MOVIE $44.20 (FULL MOTION VIDEO)
MY PRIVATE COLLECTION $32.78 (BBS READY)
DEEP THROAT $42.76 FULL MOTION VIDEO
MAN POWER $41.00 BBS READY
WE ACCEPT VISA, MC, AX & DISCOVER. CHECK OR M.O. (ADD 3% FOR CREDIT CARDS
$4.00 S&H FOR ORDERS OF 1-5..$1.00 PER EACH ADDITIONAL DISC.
SHORELINE CD-ROM PHONE: (310) 652-2858
1206 S. HOLT AVE. #1
LOS ANGELES, CA 90035 FAX: (310) 652-2608
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From: MARK ROEDEL Number: 3166
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/17/93 4:57p
Subj: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> ***************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION ****************
->
-> If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave yo
-> mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
->
-> Thank you
-> Adrian Salas
you can send one of those to
mark roedel
po box 7001 cpo 953
longview, tx 75607-7001
thanx. i'll be lookin' forward to it.
-=( mark )=-
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From: AL KOLLER Number: 3167
To: KEVIN WILLIAMS Date: 09/17/93 6:59p
Subj: Re: Pioneer DRM 600 problem Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thanks. Bad card... Oh well, you never know. New one on its way.
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From: WAYNE POWELL Number: 3168
To: MARK WOMACK Date: 09/17/93 8:11p
Subj: Space Quest 4 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-= Mark Womack said to All about SPACE QUEST 4 on 09-12-93: =-
MW>Can someone help me get un-stuck in this game? I've been stuck at
MW>the same place for 3 weeks now. I'm at the manhole and see the
MW>transport landing. Anwhere I go from here I get killed right away.
MW>I don't even have time to think. I have several items in my
Mark,
Select the Hand Icon. Click immediately on the landing gear after
Roger walks on the screen. You may have to do this a couple of times until
you hit the right spot.
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From: MICHAEL BROWN Number: 3169
To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN Date: 09/18/93 1:25a
Subj: CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Yes, Prophone CD 1993, Questions? How complete is the
disk? Is it accurate? How did they load the information,
scanning? Also business numbers on the same disk, how
can you search, SIC code?
thanks Mike
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From: TYRONE THOMASON Number: 3170
To: DAVID WILLS Date: 09/18/93 12:28p
Subj: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DW> Hmph, it's pretty obvious isn't it? Religious activists and moral
DW>do-gooders have once again used their collective might to knuckle under
DW>another "public forum". Or should I say, "censored public forum" now?
Pardon me for butting in but, it seems that the very thing that you are
accusing others of doing, you are doing yourself. In defense of the
moderator, adult material was banned to protect Sysops from setting them
up for prosecution for violating State laws. Not the act of activist or
do-gooders as you claim.
DW> <Dripping with acidic sarcasm> Of course, it's in the name of all
DW>what's good and just that they "protect us from ourselves". We all
DW>wouldn't want to end up in hell, now do we? Anyway, don't you know
DW>that naughty pictures will make you a sicko pervert, kill everyone,
DW>turn to a life of crime, and take large amounts of illegal drugs???
Is the moderator protecting someone from themselves? Yes, but posting
in another echo is a whole heck of a lot easier on your conscience than
having someones computer confiscated Federal and/or State charges levied
against someone when you know that you were indirectly responsible. A
bit of an inconvience, yes but, responsibilty is more admirable. In
other words, would say something to a person you saw about to step off a
curb into an on-coming car or stand there and shake you head after the
accident?
The information I gave you for the banning of adult discussions was
gleaned from messages in the echo.
Ty.
DW>>:)
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From: STEPHEN GUPTON Number: 3171
To: WILLIAM T. MCCLAIN Date: 09/16/93 2:01a
Subj: Mitsumi CD Rom Drive Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a msg on <Sep1602:01, William T. Mcclain of 1:377/49 writes:
WTM> A friend of mine runs a BBS and needs to know if the Mitsumi CD
WTM> ROM drive (I think the model is LU005) will access the full
WTM> 680 MB of data from a CD ROM disk. Would appreciate any
WTM> information on this.
No problem for the LU005, I currently have two online and they work
flawlessly. I also run a Pioneer DRM-604X 6 disk changer.
<*=- Stephen -=*>
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From: TODD OSTRER Number: 3172
To: ALL Date: 09/15/93 1:53a
Subj: cd's for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello: Our new Catalog. WE Ship World Wide Express Mail..
DEALER CD-ROMs 09-14-93
** MINIMUM ORDER IS 5 CD-ROMs (can mix). (Good Volume Discounts) **
Visa, MC, AmEx, Discover,
Money Order.
Todd Ostrer
2473 S.E. 135th
Portland, Or. 97233
(503)257-7255 24 hrs / 7 days
(503)257-7264 (BBS) 14.4v32
ADULT
-----
Adult Palate (PC or Mac)........... 28 Adult Reference Library..........
After Dark Trilogy................. 40 All Beauties.....................
Animation Fantasies Vol 1 or 2..... 28 Asian Ladies.....................
Busty Babes........................ 29 Deep Throat......................
Digital Dancing.................... 49 Digital Dreams...................
Dirty Talk......................... 45 Ecstasy Hot Pics.................
Erotic Encounters.................. 29 Erotic Encounters 2..............
FAO (3 disk set)................... 65 Foxes............................
Gay World 1........................ 30 Gay World 2......................
GBL (gay, bi-sexual, lesbian)...... 30 Giffy Gold.......................
Glamour Girls 1943................. 40 Hidden Obsessions................
Hot Hunks..(gay)................... 30 House of Sleeping Beauties (movie
Island Girls....................... 24 Lovely Ladies II.................
Manpower (gay)..................... 30 Moving Fantasies (194 movies)....
My First Time (2 CDs).............. 43 My Private Collection 1 or 2.....
Mystique of the Orient............. 43 Night Watch Interactive..........
Nix Pix Hot Pix 1.................. 55 Nix Pix Hot Pix 2, 3, 4 or 5.....
PC Pix 1, 2 or 3................... 28 Physical Therapy (XXX-Extreme)...
Pixure ROM 1, 2 or 3............... 30 Pixure ROM Triple Exposure (3 CDs
Pork-Ware 1........................ 28 Pork-Ware 2......................
Private Pictures................... 29 RimFire Pacific..................
Seedy Rom 1 thru 6 (each).......... 29 Seedy Rom 6 pack.................
Seedy Rom 7th Heaven............... 30 Seedy Rom Movie Disk #1..........
Sexxcapades, The Movie............. 47 Smutware.........................
So Much Stareware.................. 28 Southern Beauties................
Storm 1............................ 25 Storm 1, 2 & 3...................
Storm 2............................ 25 Storm 3..........................
Swimware 1993...................... 29 Swimware & More..................
Visual Fantasies................... 28 Volcano..........................
Wicked............................. 55 Women of Venus (bathing suits)...
ART & GRAPHICS
Clip Art Galore.................... 30
Clip Art Heaven.................... 30
DTP Dream Disk (clip art,fonts,book 50
Gifs Galore........................ 25
Just Fonts v1...................... 26
Library of Art: Europe, America.... 65
Mother Earth.II.................... 33
Publish It Ver. 2.................. 27
Publisher's Paradise............... 33
So Much Screenware................. 33
Too Many Fonts..................... 22
Wild Places (with sound)........... 36
World View (with sound)........... 36
BUSINESS
Britannica Select Software......... 25
Business Master.................... 26
Pro Phone '92 (3 CDs).............. 50
Pro Phone '93 (7 CDs)..............120
Pro Phone Business '93............. 43
MISCELLANEOUS
Caddies............................ 06
REFERENCE
Automap & US Atlas................. 30
Baron's Profiles of Colleges....... 30
Bibles & Religion.................. 22
Bookshelf for Windows.............. 60
CIA World Tour..................... 30
Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia.130
Compton's Multimedia Encyclopedia.. 60
Desert Storm, War in the Gulf...... 30
Dictionaries & Languages........... 18
Family Doctor...................... 33
Global Explorer.................... 89
Grolier's Encyclop MPC Windows..... 49
Grolier's Encyclop ver 5 multimedia 47
Guiness Multimedia Disk of Records. 54 (pc or Mac)
Languages of the World............. 47
Magazine Rack...................... 30
Mayo Clinic MPC.................... 40
National Parks..................... 30
Reference Library.................. 30
Sophisticated Santa Fe.............130
Street Atlas USA................... 89
Time Table of Hist,Science,Innov... 30
Time Table of Business, Politics... 33
Total baseball:Multimedia Encycl... 33
US & World Atlas................... 26
US & World Atlas 3 Multimedia...... 30
US & World Atlas MPC Windows....... 33
US Atlas........................... 28
US History......................... 30
World Atlas........................ 28
SHAREWARE
American Premiere Shareware '93.... 29
CICA Windows Shareware (Walnut).... 23
Essential Home & Business Collectio 25
Games 1993......................... 25
Gigabyte Gold...................... 32
Hobbes OS/2 by Walnut Creek........ 23
Libris Britannica by Walnut Creek.. 50
Lion's Share....................... 30
Mega CD-ROM........................ 32
Monster Disk 2 CD set.............. 46
Multimedia All American Series..... 33
Night Owl 8........................ 28
Night Owl 9........................ 30
Nite Owl Business Applications..... 26
PC Game Room....................... 24
PC Sig Game Disk................... 25
PC Sig Ver 12...................... 29
Pier 2............................. 30
Shareware 1993..................... 26
Shareware Explosion................ 30
Shareware Extravaganza (4 cds)..... 56
Shareware Galore................... 28
Shareware Games.................... 30
Shareware Gold 3 for Windows....... 40
Shareware Overload................. 20
Shareware Studio 1, 2...........18, 20
Shareware Tiger.................... 30
So Much Shareware 2................ 32
Software Vault..................... 30
Top 2000+.......................... 25
Up All Night....................... 29
VGA Spectrum 1..................... 23
VGA Spectrum 2, multimedia......... 30
Windoware.......................... 20
Windows 1993....................... 27
Windows Master..................... 27
Wizardware's wiz-pak............... 17
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From: TODD OSTRER Number: 3173
To: ALL Date: 09/15/93 1:53a
Subj: cd's for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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■ TNet 3.90 ≈ ROSE CITY BBS(Home of Nasty Habits)503.257.7264
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From: ANTON SWART Number: 3174
To: BORIIS OSADCIW Date: 09/14/93 9:11p
Subj: Thanx Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
THanx i got KQ6 2dya
pleasure doing bizzness!
cheers
l8ta
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From: ERIC STAM Number: 3175
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/09/93 3:51p
Subj: SALE CD-ROM'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> SHORELINE CD-ROM'S DISCOUT PRICES
> FOR A COMPLETE
> CATALOG, LEAVE
> E-mail ADDRESS
> OR POSTAL
> ADDRESS!!!!
I would like to have a complete list too.
I haven't got a cd rom yet, but I am seriously thinking about buying one.
Could you send the list to
Eric Stam
W. Kalfstr. 17
7545 AL Enschede
The Netherlands
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From: MICHAEL BUENTER Number: 3176
To: ALL Date: 09/13/93 5:34p
Subj: Inexpensive SCSI CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm looking for an inexpensive SCSI CD-ROM drive for my bbs. It should work
with OS/2 2.1.
Please answer via FidoNet 2:301/602, CI$ 100022,2140 or FAX +41-41-538627.
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From: ALEJANDRO RODRIGUEZ HEREDERO Number: 3177
To: STEVE DAGGETT Date: 09/08/93 10:10p
Subj: Sound Blaster wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Wanted - sound Blaster or SB Pro. Thanks!
Live or Alive. Why not a GUS card?.
Best regards. Alex.
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From: ALEJANDRO RODRIGUEZ HEREDERO Number: 3178
To: ENRIQUE BORRERO Date: 09/11/93 11:16p
Subj: Discos Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Hola, aquí en Bilbo, y el resto de España tambien, se
> pasa todo tipo de software a CD, a precios asequibles.
Hola Enrique.
Me llamo Alejandro, te escribo desde Madrid.
Estoy interesado en saber cuanto me costaria pasar
Soft (600 Mb aprox) a CD.
Saludotes.
Alex.
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From: CHRIS FLYNN Number: 3179
To: LEE WINSOR Date: 09/09/93 10:33p
Subj: Shareware Explorer - 4 pa Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LW> New Frontiers CD-ROMS, of New Hartford, CT. announces the release
LW> of their new "Shareware Explorer" 4 disc Shareware Collection on
Lee, do you wield a nerf bat in another existence? <g>
... Must Go - Got to rub some lard on the cat's boil !!
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From: NICHOLAS GOLDWYN Number: 3180
To: CRAIG JACKSON Date: 09/10/93 1:17p
Subj: MITSUMI DRIVES?? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Craig Jackson to Nicholas Goldwyn <=-
NG>included Photo Access software.
CJ> What are the specs for your PhotoCD capable Mitsumi drive? I
CJ> recently obtained a Mitsumi drive and wanted to insure PhotoCD
CJ> capability (neither the manual, nor the dealer, would say).
Which specs do you want? The model no is LU005S - as far as I know,
all current models support multi-session Photo-CD.
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From: PHIL HORNBY Number: 3181
To: PADDY DRURY Date: 09/12/93 4:07p
Subj: Kodak Photo CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Paddy,
On Thursday September 09 1993, Paddy Drury wrote to Luis Carvajal:
PD> This is how the system works in the UK
ah-ha...so _you're_ the UK's other PhotoCD user :-)
PD> take 35mm negative film to 'BOOTS the Chemists' ( these are a high
Presumably Boots are still sending 'em off to Kodak though?
PD> the files have a *.pcd name and appear just as any other dir listing
PD> on a cd. So using kodak access software or even coral read the files
Do you have a PhotoCD player in addition to a CDROM drive? The reason I ask, is
that my PCD player (CDF200) is not using the whole raster, which is especially
annoying on portrait format shots. I've not yet managed to get any sense out of
Philips UK, but after a week of 'phoning I've at last got the name of someone,
who might know someone, who knows if this is correct behaviour :-))
PS, Are you Netmail-able? - I wouldn't want to clutter up the Busty Babes echo
with technical mumbo-jumbo ;-)
Phil.
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From: RAMOND DE.VREDE Number: 3182
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/13/93 10:45a
Subj: Cd-Roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello...
Please Send Me Your CD-ROM catalog...
Peaceful Computing Foundation Europe
Ramond de Vrede
P.O. Box 5119
NL-6202 WG Maastricht
Europe - The Netherlands
Thanks...
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From: RICK LOOPER Number: 3183
To: ALL Date: 09/16/93 12:08p
Subj: COMPRO Multimedia Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Is anyone familiar with a company called COMPRO Multimedia? Any
information, particularly an address and/or phone number for this
company would be greatly appreciated.
... RICK LOOPER, (704) 256-8971, HICKORY, NC, WILDCAT 3.60S HOST
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From: PETE CRESSWELL Number: 3184
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/15/93 8:39p
Subj: OS/2 CD-ROM SUPPORT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LR> The WPS, although FAR better than Windows, also stinks to high
LR> heaven. My best advice to the OS/2 user is to dump the WPS, as well.
Ever tried a MacIntosh?
... Food-For-Thought Paoli, PA 215/251-9387
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From: ROBERTO REYES Number: 3185
To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Date: 09/15/93 8:52a
Subj: Super Series Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
IA >Ask for Super Series from your nearest dealer or call us;
IA >Super ClipArt
>Super Fonts
>Super Games for Windows Vol. I
>Super Games for Windows Vol. II
>Super_CD Shareware Library I
>Super_CD Shareware Library II
>Super_CD Shareware Library III (coming soon)
>Super Programmer (will be ready 19 Sept. 93)
>PGG I (adults only)
>GroupWare
>4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
>Tacoma, WA 98409
>1-206-472-1400
>1-206-473-1634 FAX
IA >--- DB 1.53/002199
Hi! Ismail
Please, as soon as possible send me the prices of the following CD'S
Super Games for Windows Vol. II
Super_CD Shareware Library III (coming soon)
Super Programmer (will be ready 19 Sept. 93)
Thanks
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From: HINGE SYAXX Number: 3186
To: JIMM CRAWFORD Date: 09/15/93 10:24p
Subj: CD-ROMs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JC> What is it that you like or dis-like about them?
JC> We sell version 12 for under $20.00.
That is the best price I've ever seen. WOW!!! The usual comments I get about
PC-SIG 12 is just that it has so much, albeit the quality is not as good as it
COULD be, it's enough to please most users, and the sysops like having large
file areas to show off. It's really nutty to hear the reasons why people buy
things, but give 'em what they want, eh?
At less that $20, I may need to look at a purchase. Leave some info, por
favor.
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From: STEVEN BALDASSARRA Number: 3187
To: RICK NAY Date: 09/15/93 5:18p
Subj: Re: Sony CDU-31A Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RN>I have it and it varies from magazine to magazine..some say 490ms, others
say
RN>550 ms..it does 150kb/ps sustained..2.1 m/bytes per second burst rate..sony
has
RN>another new sony type(34)pin dual speed coming out..it has a 370 ms access
RN>time, 300kbps sustained, 4 m/bytes burst rate..frankly i think that ms
rating
RN>is such a hype..big woo..550 millionth of a second..the average access for
the
RN>cdu31a is .50 sec..1/2 a second..i love the drive..hope i was some help..
You are right about CDU-31A. According to SONY's spec.:
Data Transfer Rate:
Sustained Rate: 150Kbytes/sec
Burst Rate: 21.Mbytes/sec
Access Time:
Full Stroke: 0.95sec (950ms)
Average: 0.49sec (490ms)
Steven
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN Number: 3188
To: ROBERTO REYES Date: 09/15/93 10:42p
Subj: CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I want the PROPHONE 1993 do you have a fax number to order one copy?
-> Do you accept credit card?
->
-> Send me a catalog of your products to
Hi Roberto!
I'm sorry, but we sold the last of those to a gentleman over in
Florida last week! We can get more in, but not at that special price. We
DO accept VISA and MASTERCARD and we'll DEFINITELY send you our catalog.
Thanks a lot for asking!
.\\ichellea
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN Number: 3189
To: ALL Date: 09/15/93 11:02p
Subj: SHAREWARE EXPLORER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
To everyone looking for shareware CD-ROMs:
You NEED to consider this new release. Its an excellent 4 disc
set (3 DOS shareware and 1 Windows) covering up to August of this year.
Its very well laid out, no duplication, great file selection... looks
like a lot of care went into this set! One of our customers said "I'm
throwing away my Night Owls. I'll put these four in my 6-CD changer,
and a couple of specialty CDs, and my users will go crazy!" when he got
it. Give us a call about getting a copy at 306-789-4654!
.\\ichellea
P.S. Don't forget BB2 will be here soon!
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From: VINCENT FERNANDEZ Number: 3190
To: SERGE STOCKWELL Date: 09/11/93 5:51p
Subj: réponse Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
salut ..
bin moi rentré 2ème année ...
moi apprendre toi etre ds la merde
sinon moi avoir CD ROM dble vitesse PAnasonic CDR 663
avec double latence et systeme de retnsion à viseur opto-mécanique
à recherche automatique par satellite géostationnaire double offset
avoir aussi acquis carte son ( idem raza , je l'ai vu )
moi bourré de fric non ?
-eh bien non, moi avoir touché prime Digital stage de m....
-> staτe de merde = prime de merde, mais suffisant pour acheter
une carte son...
bref sinon tu passes qd tu veux, un WE, ou un jeudi ou vendredi Ap Midi
( on fout rien n'est ce pas...)
a+
euh... vdε epson lx800 : 500frs...
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 3191
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/12/93 10:07p
Subj: CADDY-O-RAMA Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LR> This makes no sense at all. Caddies are a lot more CONVENIENT than
LR>non-caddy units. With a caddyless CD, one must get the old case, unload the
LR>CD, put it in the case, get the new CD, remove it from its case, put it in t
LR>carrier, and close the door, all the while exposing the CDs to dust, dirt,
LR>fingerprints, scratches, and the odd drop on the floor. With caddies, one
LR>simply removes the old caddy and pops in the new one. Less muss, less fuss,
LR>and no potential damage to the CD.
If that were true, people would be using caddies for their audio drives,
too. Yet (except for in cars where there really WOULD be a possible
problem), I see precious few audio CD drives which would have people
fool with caddies. Plus, your scenario assumes that people have a caddy
for each and every disc they buy... If they don't, then the scenario is
just like you described above EXCEPT it includes removing the old disc
from its caddy before you put it away into its jewelbox, and putting the
new disc into that same caddy before you can slide it into the drive.
Plus, something you fail to mention is the fact that the CD-ROM
jewelboxes usually have a nice label on the spine, often including
graphics or colors which help make it easy and fast to pull out the
exact disc you're looking for from a shelf full of CDs. Caddies
generally don't, which makes it harder to fumble around and find the
right one.
LR> Once again, the caddy is MUCH more convenient, as well as more durab
LR>plus one can change an entire SUITE of software at once. The only drawback
^^^
"can", or "has to"? :-((( And if you want to only change two or
three discs out of the six? How convenient is it then? :-(((
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 3192
To: POE LIM Date: 09/12/93 10:09p
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PL>As to the cost, I calculate it as a percentage of the cost of the ROMs; most
PL>the time they come to less than 10% of the cost, which is acceptable for the
PL>protection thus gained.
You're either only buying EXPENSIVE CD-ROMs, or getting your caddies
REAL cheap. Most of my shareware CD-ROMs I've paid $10-35 for. Where
do you buy caddies for even (at the high end of that figure) $3.50?
About the cheapest price I've seen around here is $5 approximately, and
that's fully 50% of the price of a $10 CD-ROM.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 3193
To: ROGER SMITH Date: 09/12/93 10:10p
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RS> RE> You're a dealer aren't you Poe?? Its probably cheaper for you to get
RS> RE> caddies than it is for the average user.... Most users I know of with
RS> RE> caddy type drives can only afford one caddy... and they are amazed
RS> RE> and impressed by the Panasonic....
RS>Caddies are only about $5 each. Surely, that's not much to protect a CDROM
RS>that can cost much more.
So why don't audio CD owners love caddies too?
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 3194
To: ED FEINS Date: 09/12/93 10:11p
Subj: CD CADDIES FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
EF>I have EIGHT CD-CADDIES for sale.
EF>$25.00 - shipping INCLUDED in USA (went "caddy-less")
Congratulations, Ed! Always glad to see another joining the club!
:-)))
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 3195
To: TONY STOTT Date: 09/13/93 10:12a
Subj: New Mpc Specs Refer: NONE
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TS>GP>I urge EVERYONE to boycott this garbage. A standard isn't a standard
TS>GP>the people making the hardware and software can continue to "raise the
TS>GP>bar" by increasing the hardware required every six to twelve months.
TS>GP>Why go to the trouble of meeting a standard, if six months later you
TS>GP>find that you're still screwed? :-((
TS>Sorry that you're upset Gordon, but until we can get full-motion
TS>full-screen high resolution video with integrated hi-fi sound and
TS>full-length movies on cd-rom, I think the standards are going to keep
TS>moving upwards.
If a "standard" isn't to mean anything, then clearly the users have no
reason to worry about whether or not they buy a system that conforms to
a "standard". Of course technology and capability will evolve, but this
idiocy of redefining a "standard" every six or twelve months makes it
quite clear that paying more today to get a system which adheres to "the
standard" and expecting that thereby one will be protected just means
you're being ripped off.
TS>I would never recommend someone buys less than an MPC-2 standard computer
TS>(in fact I'd aim a little higher in the memory and hard disk areas), but
TS>that doesn't mean I'd sneer at someone who owns lesser equipment..
Clearly MPC-2 isn't good enough to meet your "ultimate goal" above
either. So given that fact, I think it makes more sense to sit back and
wait for the smoke to clear... and either buy something that's
sufficient for reading shareware CD-ROMs today (e.g. the Mitsumi) or (in
the worst case) nothing at all, until the industry manages to get its
act together. :-(((((
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 3196
To: FRANK RUSKO Date: 09/13/93 10:15a
Subj: Mpc Atlas Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
FR>GP> AD>For a world atlas, Global Explorer from DeLorme Mapping is the best.
FR>GP> AD>my opinion, Global Explorer is FAR superior to any other CD-ROM
FR>GP> AD>based world atlas currently on the market.
FR>GP> I second that opinion. The Software Toolworks US/World Atlas, for
FR>GP> example, is pathetic by comparison (although admittedly cheaper).
FR>Gord...Would you be kind enough to post an address please..
Be glad to. DeLorme Mapping, Lower Main Street, P.O. Box 298, Freeport,
Maine 04032 USA. (207) 865-1234.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 3197
To: DAVE REED Date: 09/13/93 10:20a
Subj: MANPOWER - NEW GAY CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DR> GP> It may not be your "thing", but hey, why shouldn't it be available to
DR> GP> those who might be interested? A little bit of tolerance, please, for
DR> GP> people whose interests might be different than your own.
DR>We do NOT have to tolerate immoral behavior. No one should.
In many countries, it's immoral to eat pork. In other places, it's
considered perfectly proper to eat dog meat. In still others, people
don't eat beef. And some cultures eat insects. What some people find
immoral or disgusting, others find perfectly respectable. And vice
versa.
In any case, the subject of tolerance of people who happen to be
different than you are is better discussed in Issues and Debates, not
here. If you want to discuss the matter further, I propose we move it
there. :-)
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 3198
To: TAPANI TUOMINEN Date: 09/13/93 10:30a
Subj: I want caddies Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TT>I just can't get exited of fonts anymore. You get so much free high
TT>quality fonts with software you buy nowadays. I have about 200 TT
Right, but an awful lot of them aren't very valuable here in Europe
because they don't support the European accented characters.
TT>and Adobe type 1 fonts installed in my primary PC and that is far more
TT>than I ever will need. Although I might have use for two special fonts.
TT>Maybe you have seen those somewhere? First one is a font with images of
TT>keyboard caps (you know those things that you find in software manuals)
There is one of those on the Too Many Typefonts CD-ROM.
TT>and the second one to emulate OEM char sets = to produce the special
TT>characters of DOS like the ones for drawing boxes when using Windows.
I think that's in the normal Symbols font but I'm not sure. In any
case, using character fonts to draw line graphics (when the screen is in
graphics mode anyhow) seems to me like a pretty strange way of misusing
TrueType fonts (even if one could get the positioning EXACTLY right).
TT>GP>a stack of discs, I think it's much easier to rapidly find the disc y
TT>GP>want (by the color of the spine of the jewelbox, for example) than to
TT>GP>pull out the right disc that's been preloaded into one of a pile of
TT>GP>identical-looking caddies.
TT>This happens only if you have them in a stack.
You're going to store them all on your desk flat, face up, one-layer
deep??
TT>And caddies mostly come
TT>with stickers where you can write the name of the CD and this sticker is
TT>visible even when caddies are stacked. Actually I think that if
TT>manufacturers don't pack their CD:s in caddies (which would probably
TT>increase the price by USD 2-3; big deal with a CD costing 50...100) they
Right, but the cost of the caddy would then be MORE than the cost of the
disc. And besides, you'd be forcing the more astute user who bought a
caddyless drive to begin with to buy something that they have absolutely
not the slightest use for.
TT>could at least provide a printed sticker for the caddie with the
TT>product.
Why bother? Caddies are going to go the way of the Edsel anyway.
TT>CD-drives available. If I have two CD-drives in front of me with equal
TT>performance and equal price tag the only difference being a fancy
TT>sliding disk tray I wouldn't hesitate a single second to pick the one
TT>without tray. It is reasonable to presume that the manufacturer of the
TT>trayless drive has invested in slightly better quality components for
TT>the rest of the drive as the costly tray mechanism has been left out.
You're assuming that you get what you pay for. The converse is
certainly true: you DON'T get what you DON'T pay for. But nine times
out of ten, if you're paying more you're ONLY paying more. The retail
price of products often has LITTLE relationship to their cost of
manufacture.
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From: TAPANI TUOMINEN Number: 3199
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/14/93 6:11p
Subj: Caddy-o-rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
A message from Gordon Peterson to Roger Smith on 09-12-93:
GP> So why don't audio CD owners love caddies too?
Because it is almost impossible to stick a caddy to a caddyless player.
;-) But seriously speaking it is too late to change anything. Philips
should have implemented CD:s with some sort of protective covering (like
caddy) instead of plain disk when designing the CD-standard.
Tapani Tuominen
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From: TAPANI TUOMINEN Number: 3200
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/14/93 6:11p
Subj: I want caddies Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
A message from Gordon Peterson to Tapani Tuominen on 09-13-93:
GP> Right, but an awful lot of them aren't very valuable here in Europe
GP> because they don't support the European accented characters.
What kind of fonts are you using then? I just checked several of my
fonts for curiosity and all of them worked perfectly well with European
special characters and still they came with US-versions of software
(Designer, Amipro etc.). However the situation might be different with
some TT-fonts from USA, especially if they are either free or shareware as
they are developed for local needs primarily. Those fonts that I have are
almost exclusively Type-1 fonts from Adobe.
GP> There is one of those on the Too Many Typefonts CD-ROM.
I would like to see this font.
GP> TT>and the second one to emulate OEM char sets = to produce the spec
GP> TT>characters of DOS like the ones for drawing boxes when using Wind
GP>
GP> I think that's in the normal Symbols font but I'm not sure. In any
GP> case, using character fonts to draw line graphics (when the screen i
GP> graphics mode anyhow) seems to me like a pretty strange way of misus
GP> TrueType fonts (even if one could get the positioning EXACTLY right)
Maybe I should explain that I need to have copies of DOS-screens (Full
Screen mode under Windows copied to clipboard). Windows converts during
this process OEM-char set to ANSI-set and when the original screen is
reproduced to a Windows-document all the graphics chars. of IBM -char set
are converted to something else. However I have heard that there is a font
that emulates those producing the kind of image of the screen I need. But
unfortunately I haven't been able to find the font in question so far.
GP> Right, but the cost of the caddy would then be MORE than the cost of
GP> disc. And besides, you'd be forcing the more astute user who bought
GP> caddyless drive to begin with to buy something that they have absolu
GP> not the slightest use for.
I know. It is just those damned caddyless drives causing this problem. ;-)
GP> TT>could at least provide a printed sticker for the caddie with the
GP> TT>product.
GP>
GP> Why bother? Caddies are going to go the way of the Edsel anyway.
Whether you like it or not a huge number of players with caddies are
around and there is no indication so far that they were disappearing.
Tapani Tuominen
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 3201
To: JEFF COLLINGWOOD Date: 09/15/93 11:47p
Subj: NIGHT OWL 9 SPECIALS Refer: NONE
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JC>In a message to Mike Shannon <09/11/93> Doug Carpenter wrote:
JC>DC> Give it a rest....
JC>Hey Doug, you started it, now you ask him to give it a rest! It
JC>gets tiring listening to two dealers bicker. I suggest that you
JC>don't start this nonsense in the first place. Or at least do it
JC>from netmail so the rest of us don't have to be subjected to
JC>this.
Good point Jeff, except I wasn't trying to "bicker" with Doug. He simply
stated that he had "lots more" CD's that were newer (i.e. contained newer
files) than Night Owl 9. This was all a little while back, before Vault
Gold, Shareware Online 2, and some of the other brand new CD's had
surfaced, and I simply wanted to know which CD's he was referring to. No
flame intended from my side.
Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 3202
To: KEVIN SULLIVAN Date: 09/15/93 11:47p
Subj: CD-ROM PRE-ORDERS Refer: NONE
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KS>Ya know, I'm not the echo police, but I know you have been told about that
KS>10 line limit for advertising. Every other good dealer can live with it,
KS>so why can't you? This is all your 10 lines give you, so cut the crap and
KS>get to the meat without the trash.
Sorry about that. I really didn't intend for that 10+ liner to get into
the CD-ROM echo, because I do respect Bob's rules, but sometimes when I'm
in a hurry, I mistakenly post ads from CDROM_SALE into CDROM and
vice-versa.
KS>Pre-ordering sucks too IMO, you need money to finish the product,
talk to a bank.
You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but many of my customers need
to have new CD's THE DAY they are released onto the market, so for them
pre-ordering works well. Others like it because they know through pre-
ordering that they don't have to scan the ads every day to determine if
a new title has been released yet. They will automatically receive it
a few short days after their dealer receives the goods. Also, my
customers know I don't charge their cards until the date of shipment, so
the whole procedure is a sort of "set it and forget it" arrangement that
works out well for both of us. If you're not too put out, please consider
us for your next purchase. Would be glad to send you a catalog.
Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 3203
To: ALL Date: 09/15/93 11:48p
Subj: HOT NEW SHAREWARE CD!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
| Starvector Sales Bulletin #6: HOT NEW CD-ROM! |
| Title: SHAREWARE ONLINE #2 Price: $35 |
* Fully BBS ready with file listings in six different formats.
* 623mb total * 4200+ total files * All files dated 1/93 to 8/93.
* File listing available: ONLINE2.ZIP @ 509-457-0206 (V.32bis)
Special offer: Get Shareware Online 1 AND 2 for only $55! Best of 92/93.
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 3204
To: ALL Date: 09/15/93 11:48p
Subj: SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD: $29! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
| Starvector Sales Bulletin #6: HOT NEW CD-ROM! |
| Title: SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD Price: $29 |
* Fully BBS-ready * 593 megabytes * 6148 files
* File listing available: VAULTGLD.ZIP @ 509-457-0206 (V.32bis)
2-CD SET: Software Vault Gold + Software Vault 2...(NO dupes!)....$44
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 3205
To: GREG MCDONELL Date: 09/15/93 11:48p
Subj: CD PHOTOS Refer: NONE
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GM>Thanks Mike. Didn't realise it was that much, tho' I'm sure it's
GM>reasonable value. I've already got nearly a dozen CDs on order or
GM>backorder from you, so I'll leave this one for now. ( My wife
GM>thinks "Starvector" is part of our standard Mastercard billing form)
Ha Ha Ha Ha ..... 8) <ROFLMAO>
Seriously though, just let her keep thinking that! Best to let a
sleeping dog lie, eh? Anyway, I was kind of waiting until Busty II and
Pier 3 came in before I sent your order. Would you like me to send the
others now and backorder those, or wait until the two new ones come in,
and send the whole batch at once? Your call.
Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 3206
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 09/15/93 11:48p
Subj: CD SALES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BJ> -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to Bob Jackson <=-
BJ> MS> but I would estimate that the majority of my customers are end-users.
BJ> ^^^^^^^^^
BJ>Interesting. Another reply had it 5:1 in favor of sysops. Part of what
BJ>originally sparked the discussion was the fact that more and more CDs
BJ>(of all types) are coming with increasingly sophisticated front-ends -
BJ>like SHOWOFF on BB3 - which have little/no value to sysops. At the same
BJ>time, there is a concomitant increase in interest for having "FILES.BBS"
BJ>(or whatever) on new CDs. Clearly the producers are trying to please
BJ>both markets.
Yes, I think you've hit it on the head there. Please realize though that
my figures come from sales attributable to my ads in National magazines,
our shareware catalogs, local media, etc., as well as from the computer
networks. If I had to make an educated guess, I would say that the
majority of our sales in Fido, RIME, Compuserve, etc., belong to sysops.
Bye,
.\\ike
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From: MARK GUTT Number: 3207
To: ALL Date: 09/15/93 5:17a
Subj: KQ6 CD FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have the King's Quest 6 CD version for sale.
Its been only used 2 times. Everything is
original and includes the registration card.
$38.00 which includes shipping. If
interested call me at (414) 734-4090.
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From: MARK GUTT Number: 3208
To: ALL Date: 09/15/93 5:19a
Subj: ECOQUEST 1 CD FOR SALE Refer: NONE
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I have the Eco Quest 1 CD version for sale.
Used less than 5 times. It is an excellent
adventure game. It is one of Sierra's best
efforts for CD games. As with KQ6, it can
be run from DOS or Windows.
Everything is original and includes
the registration card. $34.00 which
includes shipping. If interested call me
at (414) 734-4090.
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From: KEN MATTHEWS Number: 3209
To: ALL Date: 09/03/93 6:43p
Subj: CD's for sale Refer: NONE
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Day of the Tentacle 30.00
SpaceQuest IV 20.00
World View 20.00
So Much Shareware 3 20.00
Windy City NixPix 5 20.00 <--must be over 21
Plus shipping.. ken 412 793 9152
... Glad To Be Here..
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From: ADRIAN VERGOT Number: 3210
To: ALL Date: 09/14/93 5:22p
Subj: Make your own CD-ROM! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
How would you like your own custom made CD-ROM?
CD-ROM Creations (c) has now made getting your proprietary DOS or Windows
files, programs, and databases onto CD-ROM both EASY and Affordable.
All you have to do is send us a copy of your proprietary information
(600+ Meg!) on DC2XXX QIC40/80 Colorado style tape cartridges (other
formats considered on a case by case basis) and we will directly
transfer it onto an ISO compliant CD-ROM that can be accessed by any
ISO compliant CD-ROM drive (just about every one made today!)
- Confidentiality is assured
- $99 per CD-ROM
- additional copies only $50 each
- Turn around time is about 2 days
- BBS Sysops call for rates
- We accept money orders and cashiers checks
- Pesonal Check orders will be shipped when check clears bank
If interested, call (412) 942-4694 and ask for Adrian
Auto Fax (412) 942-4694
CD ROM Creations
108 Shady Lane
McMurray, PA 15317
Enclose a signed copy of the following disclaimer with your order:
DUE TO THE BULK NATURE OF THIS SERVICE, CD-ROM CREATIONS (c) DOES
NOT AND CAN NOT CENSOR AND DETERMINE THE NATURE OF THE MATERIEL
THAT THE CUSTOMER IS PROVIDING. IT IS THEREFORE THE SOLE
RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CUSTOMER TO ENSURE THAT NO COPYRIGHT
VIOLATIONS EXIST IN PLACING THE DATA ONTO CD-ROM
Signed ______________________________
Your Signature
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From: RICK SHOAF Number: 3211
To: JAMES WILLIAMS Date: 09/16/93 1:08a
Subj: Mitsumi CD-ROM Audio Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JW>I have just bought a Mitsumi CD-Rom drive Model LU005U, this is there
JW>latest High Speed Drive. I'm happy with it but am having trouble with
JW>the audio. I can get audio from the front mounted headphone jacks but by
JW>connecting the drive to my sound card (a plain Sound Blaster) with the
JW>cable that came with the sound card and then running the out put of the
JW>sound card to my stero amp, I don't get sound. Anybody out there with
JW>this set-up that might have had this problem and solved it. AKA - Cound
JW>it be a bad drive, interface card, Ecte, or am I just hooking it up
JW>wrong. Thanks in advance for any help! :)
Your drive is good and so is the SB Pro. If you have the manual to the
SB Pro, look in the back at the schematic drawings, it will give you the
pin assignments for the audio input. now look at the manual for the
Mitsumi. It's pins are a different configuration than the SB Pro. You
will need to reverse the wires to something like this...
Original What it should be
SB Pro Audio input SB Pro Audio input
Pin 1 2 3 4 Pin 1 2 3 4
1 2 3 4 2 1 4 3
Mitsumi Audio out Mitsumi Audio out
Look at the manuals to make sure, because I've only done this once, and
it was on my brother's computer, not mine, so I'm not sure of the exact
connections.
Rick
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From: JACK DIEHL Number: 3212
To: ALL Date: 09/16/93 9:30a
Subj: mitsumi Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
does any one know if mitsumi has a tech-warranty line i have one that
worked for about 2 weeks then quit it does not appear to be spinnig up
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 3213
To: MARK GWYNN Date: 09/17/93 11:11a
Subj: Looking for used cd Refer: NONE
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MG=>but I'd like your list of CD's. Please send it to:
On it's way!
MG=>p.s.
MG=>Interesting registration number for your QModemPro. Where'd you find that?
That's what I put in my OLX.CFG, I am a reg owner though....:)
Adrian
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From: KENNETH WATTS Number: 3214
To: CD-ROM WHOLESALERS Date: 09/17/93 10:39p
Subj: WHOLESALERS WANTED Refer: NONE
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Wanted cd-rom wholesaler to place orders with. Please send catalog or ordering
information to: Kenneth Watts
19 apollo place
Iowa city, Ia 52240
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From: ARNIE BERGER Number: 3215
To: BRIAN RYCHLICKI Date: 09/17/93 7:13p
Subj: PANASONIC CD562-B / SBPR Refer: NONE
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BR>I just spent about three hours with a dealer trying to install a
R>with no troubleshooting hints. It does mention that a 521c drive can
BR>be installed. The dealer said it could be my motherboard, which I
BR>doubt.
BR>Please help by providing some ideas or solutions. Thanks in Advance.
Brian, I just installed the Creative labs version of this drive
and my dealer had to replace the motherboard, inorder to get the drive
to work. Fortunately my system wa under warranty so it free. The
technician told me with my old motherboard the drive locked up and would
not work. I don't know it this will help you in your situation.
Arnie
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From: JEFF HUBERT Number: 3216
To: ALL Date: 09/17/93 8:42p
Subj: Os/2 and mitsumi Refer: NONE
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Can somebody please tell me how to get any of the os/2 cd-rom drivers
for the mitsumi to work.
Os/2 says it loaded the driver but doesn't recognize the drive.
instructions for any of the drivers on here would be fine because I
have them all and I can't get them to work.
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From: CARLOS BENITZ Number: 3217
To: DAVE REED Date: 09/15/93 1:25p
Subj: Pollution Refer: NONE
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DR> CB> I'm sick of reading crap like this (from everyone). Do you think
DR> CB> it enhances your reputation as a dealer to bicker with people?
DR>Uh... which part are you sick of? Correcting certain dealers who
The bickering.
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 3218
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/17/93 9:26a
Subj: Re: MY NEW CD-ROM! HELP Refer: NONE
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BF> >computer system will make great gains in virtually every
BF> area by discarding
BF> >with the greatest possible haste the huge waste and lack of flexibility
BF> >inherent with every aspect of Windows. Having done that,
BF> one can then continue
BF> >on the journey to make the most out of one's computer by
BF> loading a genuine
BF> >Operating System that can actually make good use,
BF> substantially full use, of
BF> >one's hardware
BF> Too bad OS/2 doesn't qualify on those points, and as JUST as bloated as
BF> Windows....
No, it isn't, really, or doesn't HAVE to be. One can easily create a
1.44 Meg boot floppy, and a minimal OS/2 implementation will fit easily in a
couple of Megs. The point is, one can streamline the OS code to optimize one's
hardware, and the drivers do indeed make substantially full use of the
hardware. Some of the code COULD be much smaller, however.
Les
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 3219
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/17/93 9:31a
Subj: Re: CADDY-O-RAMA Refer: NONE
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BF> >Folly persists, despite efforts to eradicate it. Abrogating a superior
BF> >technology
BF> Like caddyless. There is NO inherent superiority to a
BF> caddie-based drive, and a
BF> LOT of inherent limitations and excess costs involved in one.
That is crap, and we have pointed it out. Caddies prevent dust,
scratches, and dropped CD's. There is no particular advantage FOR THE DRIVE
MECHANISM, but for the technology as a whole, there damn sure is.
BF> > I have over 250 CD's, both audio and CD-ROM, and
BF> each and every one is
BF> >in a caddy.
BF> Sounds like you are made out of money. Most of us are NOT....
Not even a little. I merely have been collecting CD's, slowly, for a
large number of years.
Les
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 3220
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/17/93 9:44a
Subj: Re: CADDY-O-RAMA Refer: NONE
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BF> > It is utter foolishness to do otherwise. The
BF> extra $$$ are trivial
BF> The extra $$$ adds up in a HURRY, and the cost of the ROMs themselves are
BF> getting to the point that the damn caddies add 50% to the
BF> cost (I AM a dealer,
BF> not an end user, so my ROM cost is a lot lower).
For the average *USER*, ROM costs are a lot higher. Especially if one
is buying the expensive software, like $1500 phone directories, or the Oxford
English Dictionary.
BF> They are also a lot harder to read unless you want to
BF> waste a LOT of horizontal
BF> space to store them in (I NEVER have enough desktop space as it is!).
Neither do I, but jewel cases clutter just as badly as caddies, worse
when we are talking about 6-disk magazines.
BF> > BF> I also happen to hate the extra expen$e of those *$&*&^*@&^ caddies.
BF> > Do you hate the extra expense of relacing CD's?
BF> What extra expense? I've had AUDIO CD players for over 10 years, and have
So have I.
BF> NEVER damaged a disc in any of those - and a caddy is a
Neither have I, although I have had some very close calls, until I got
caddies.
BF> foreign concept in the
BF> audio CD world except for multi-disc changers (which I've
BF> never owned one of).
I wouldn't own anything else.
BF> The "damaged disc" argument in 98% of the cases is BOGUS.
That 2% can easily cost several times the total amount of all the
caddies one would ever buy.
BF> >The time savings
BF> Is non-existant.
Is QUITE significant. It takes me less than three seconds to load a
magazine, while it takes at LEAST ten seconds to load and unload jewel cases.
It took several MINUTES, sometimes, for me to find the right damned jewel case
when I had to replace a CD. Of course, it can still take me that amount of
time to find the right cartridge, but at least I don't have to do it TWICE.
Les
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 3221
To: PETE CRESSWELL Date: 09/17/93 9:47a
Subj: Re: OS/2 CD-ROM SUPPORT Refer: NONE
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LR> The WPS, although FAR better than Windows, also stinks to high
LR> heaven. My best advice to the OS/2 user is to dump
PC> the WPS, as well.
PC> Ever tried a MacIntosh?
Yep. Useless toys.
Les
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 3222
To: DONNIE RAYNOR Date: 09/17/93 10:04p
Subj: Mitsumi CD-Rom drive for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Donnie!
15 Sep 93, Donnie Raynor writes to All:
DR> Mitsumi CD-Rom drive for sale two months old with interface, docs, and
DR> interface card. Still in box. $175.00 I'll pay shipping.
I will offer $160, I know I just offered $150, but I thought $160 would be a
better offer 512-939-9822 any time!
Pat
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 3223
To: CARL SLAWINSKI Date: 09/17/93 10:11p
Subj: Money/sent Refer: NONE
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Hello Carl!
Sent the money off today for the CD's!
Pat
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From: CHRIS DUBOIS Number: 3224
To: GARY STIMPSON Date: 09/09/93 1:48a
Subj: Amiga CD32 Refer: NONE
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GS>More specs:
GS>14 MHz 68020
GS>AGA chipset (16.8 million colour palette, 256 000 displayble)
GS>C-Cube MPEG chipset
GS>Chunky to planar chip
GS>2 Meg RAM
GS>Double speed Matsushita CD-ROM drive
GS>Keboard connector
GS>Floppy drive connector
GS>2 joystick ports
GS>11 button joystick
GS>Photo-CD compatible
GS>MPEG-1 film CD compatible (as is 3DO, CD-I with FMV upgrade)
GS>Audio CD compatible
GS>I expect it to be priced under $400 American (possibly $350 or so).
Do you have any more specs on this, like what CD-ROM format, how soon it
will be released, etc.
Much appreciated!
Ç OLX 2.1 TD Ç Ashen-Shugar, part number ÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇ
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From: CHRIS DUBOIS Number: 3225
To: GARY STIMPSON Date: 09/10/93 10:28p
Subj: Amiga CD32 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GS>More specs:
GS>14 MHz 68020
GS>AGA chipset (16.8 million colour palette, 256 000 displayble)
GS>C-Cube MPEG chipset
GS>Chunky to planar chip
GS>2 Meg RAM
GS>Double speed Matsushita CD-ROM drive
GS>Keboard connector
GS>Floppy drive connector
GS>2 joystick ports
GS>11 button joystick
GS>Photo-CD compatible
GS>MPEG-1 film CD compatible (as is 3DO, CD-I with FMV upgrade)
GS>Audio CD compatible
GS>I expect it to be priced under $400 American (possibly $350 or so).
Do you have any more specs on this, like what CD-ROM format, how soon it
will be released, etc.
Much appreciated!
Ç OLX 2.1 TD Ç Ashen-Shugar, part number ÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇ
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From: BRIAN CUKRNOW Number: 3226
To: NICK LAWRUS Date: 09/11/93 12:23p
Subj: Re: Texel CDROM questions Refer: NONE
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NL> How good are the Texel CDROMS? Speed, reliability, etc. Anybody own
NL> these units?
NL>
NL> And does the speed of a CDROM really matter? I mean, they are all
NL> pretty slow anyway, right? Thanks in advance!
I own a Texel 3024 CD. It's a 300K/s drive with 265ms access time. It is
obvious which drive is faster when you aren't using a double speed drive or
have slow access rates. I've found it to be very reliable.
--S*p*l*i*n*t*e*r-->
Man says body is his wife, but she tells police it isn't.
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From: BRIAN CUKRNOW Number: 3227
To: MIKE AVILA Date: 09/11/93 12:26p
Subj: Re: Smartdrv as cache Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MA> FYI: If my memory chips are working, I remember reading in PC Week and/or
MA> InfoWorld that SmartDrv coming out with DOS 6.2 **WILL** cache CD-ROM drive
MA> Supposedly the SmartDrv coming out with DOS 6.2 (which will be SmartDrv 4.2
MA> is already available for free on CompuServe. Not sure if it does cache CD-
MA> though. I'm looking forward to that!
I hgave 4.2 from the MSDL BBS. It does not support CD cache. The version
in DOS 6.2 will probably be version 4.3, or something like that...
Slow driver arrested after 4 county chase.
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From: BRIAN CUKRNOW Number: 3228
To: MICHAEL GRAY Date: 09/11/93 12:31p
Subj: Re: Smartdrv as cache Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MG> I have just downloaded the smartdrive version you mentioneed and it does n
MG> cach CD_ROM's. In fact in the documents included it says the new version is
MG> slower than the one that comes with DOS 6. Well, I guess we will just have
MG> keep waiting :(
It's only slower if you don't enable write caching...duh.
Morituary adds drive-through.
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From: BRIAN CUKRNOW Number: 3229
To: RUSSELL HARDIE Date: 09/14/93 5:43p
Subj: Re: 7th Guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RH> It all installs fine. However, when I type T7G to start it, the screen jus
RH> dims, and music plays and a voice says "Welcome to my house" or something
RH> similar. Now and again, the screen brightens or dims again (all that is on
RH> the screen, is whatever was on there when I typed T7G - ie the DOS prompt).
I had the same problem when I had the game...I use a Diamond Viper. The
solution for me was to download the latest patch from Virgin's BBS. They
were at v1.24 when I d/led it. Give their BBS a call and download the
latest patch version. If that doesn't help, you'll need to talk to someone
at Virgin...
--- Renegade v07-17 Beta
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BBBAAAAAAA/?
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From: GARY STIMPSON Number: 3230
To: JOHN RACKLEY Date: 09/16/93 4:37p
Subj: CD32 Info 1/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* This message forwarded from area 'AMIGA_CDROM' (AMIGA_CDROM)
* Original message dated 14 Sep 93, from Robert Du Gaue
Here's some initial info available at WOC from press releases and literature
regarding CD32:
AMIGA CD32 Technical Specs
Processor: 68EC020 at 14Mhz
RAM: 2Mb CHIP ram plus 1Kb of nonvolital RAM for storing
hi-scores, save games, etc.
ROM: Kickstart 3.1
Chipset: AGA Chipset with new chunky-to-planar hardware.
Video Out: RF (PAL, NTSC, or SECAM units available) to connect to
the aerial socket on your TV, Composit Video and Super-VHS
outputs are available. There is no RBG monitor port on
the CD32.
Aux Connector: Standard A4000-style keyboard connector. Other possible
add-ons include multi-joystick adaptors, virtual reality
'gloves'.
Joystick Ports: 2 standard Amiga joystick/mouse ports capable of supporting
digital and analogue joysticks, mice, trackballs and light
pens as well as the new CD32 multi-button controller.
Expansion Bus: Full expansion bus allowing possible further expansions
including: Parallel/Serial/Floppy/RGB; Photo CD support;
Full Motion Video (FMV) MPEG decoder board, Ram Expansion;
Processor; Accelerators (68030/68040 etc); Hard disk
interfacs (IDE, SCSI, SCSI 2, etc); Networking PCMCIA.
CD-ROM: Top-loading double speed (300Kb/sec data rate) multisession
CD drive. Unlike CDTV the drive does not require caddies
and is not self-cleaning.
Compatible: CD-Audio; CDTV titles (most seem to work); CD+G audio
discs with graphics (including Karaoke discs); CD
specific titles; Movie-CD discs (with optional MPEG
board)
--==> Continued next message (see comparison chart) <==--
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From: GARY STIMPSON Number: 3231
To: JOHN RACKLEY Date: 09/16/93 4:34p
Subj: CD32 Info 2/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CD COMPARISON CHART
CD32 CDTV CDi Sega MegaCD
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Price (pounds) #299 #299 #499 #399
Arcitecture 32bit 16bit 16bit 16bit
Processor 68EC020 68000 68070*** 68000
Processor
Speed 14Mhz 7.14Mhz 16Mhz 12Mhz
RAM 2Mb 1Mb 1Mb 64Kb
CDROM Speed Double Single Single Single
CD Audio
Support Yes Yes Yes Yes
Colors
Available 16Million 4096 16Million 512
Max on Screen* 256 32 256 64
RF (TV) Output Yes Yes Yes Yes
Composit Video
Out Yes Yes Yes Yes
S-VHS Out Yes NTSC Only Yes No
Keyboard
Socket Yes Yes Yes No
Floppy Drive
Port No** Yes No No
Standard
Joystick
Connectors Yes No** No Yes
Requires
Caddies No Yes No No
Photo CD
Support No** No** Yes No
Movie CD
Support No** No No** No
CDXL Support Yes Yes No No
Arcade
Quality
Games Yes Some Some Yes
Reference
Serious
Titles
Available Yes Yes Yes No
Expandable to
Home Computer No** Yes No No
Average Title
Price (pounds) #30 #30 #50 #50
* Max colors on screen in standard modes for games etc.
** With optional add-on.
*** 68070 is custom 16-bit 68000 variant.
--==> The End! <==--
Gary
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From: JEFF PATTEN Number: 3232
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/15/93 11:41p
Subj: SONY 535 SPEEDUP Refer: NONE
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>>BM>After Talking to Sony and Trantor Systems (formerly Adaptek)
>>BM>I was told
>> the other way around...Adaptec is TRANTOR
BF> Unless somethng happened VERY recently, both Adaptec and Trantor
BF> are independent companies.
Adaptec bought Trantor a few months ago. The Trantor stuff is now listed
under Adaptec in the Ingram catalog.
Jeff
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3233
To: JUSTIN RUSSELL Date: 09/14/93 1:47p
Subj: MULTI CD-ROM? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Hey has anyone out there seen a CD-ROM that can hold 6 CD's and change them?
Pioneer DRM-600A and DRM-604X.
Both are SCSI.
I don't sell either, but ask around about them....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3234
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/15/93 7:49a
Subj: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
>Thanks for your input, would like to hear what Tony said, will give him a call
>and shoot the bull.
Save a couple of steaks for me?
8-)
>6 months might be about right.
I would guess more like a year or a bit more - I've seen the legal system in
action too often....
* SLMR 2.1a * Never appeal to a man's better nature He may not have one
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3235
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/15/93 7:58a
Subj: CD-ROM INTERFACES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> BF> A 1542C (current Adaptec closest equivilent to the
> BF> IN-2000) runs almost half
> BF> again of typical IN-2000 pricing.
> I got my 1742 for $300.
I've never seen an IN-2000 as HIGH as $200 - typically under $180, and I paid
$145 and $125 for MY pair of them.
> The Adaptec drivers will make use of the busmastering abilities of the
>controller, even under DOS.
Mabey on an EISA bus, but apparently NOT under an ISA bus - and given that DOS
has NO support for busmastering, I doubt that you are REALLY getting any
benifit out of it under EISA.
> BF> >but many of us know better than to stick with DOS.
> BF> I have no choice, as my primary application for this machine doesn't have
> BF> anything resembling an equal under any other OS.
> The odds are extremely high that the application will run very well
>indeed, quite possibly much better than under DOS, directly under an OS/2 VDM.
It has been SHOWN to run not NEARLY as well under OS/2, due to the greater OS/2
overhead if for no OTHER reason(s). TBBS doesn't like running under a
multitasker at ALL, though it WILL do so - but the performance hit is
SUBSTANTIAL....
* SLMR 2.1a * Cthulhu Saves... in case he's hungry later!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3236
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/15/93 8:01a
Subj: TRANTOR SCSI CONTROLL Refer: NONE
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> BF> > Have you called their tech support lately?
> BF> Why? I haven't NEEDED Tech Support from Allways....
> Lucky you. I've only NEEDED tech support for one item on the 1742,
and
>that was a floptical drive. Have you run a floptical drive on an IN-2000?
I couldn't get 3 HARD drives to run on a bleeding Adaptec - and their "Tech
Support" flat out did not EXIST when I was futzing around with their ASPI
junk.
>Especially under OS/2?
I have no use for OS/2 - and never CLAIMED that I had a use for it.
> As far as OS/2 is concerned, however, the need for tech support is
>rare, since Adaptec is one of the premier support products with OS/2.
Like the IN-2000 under DOS.
* SLMR 2.1a * It took my cat a month to fully train me.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3237
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/15/93 11:57a
Subj: CR562B CD-ROM DRIVE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> I don't know of anyone doing a CD-ROMdrive/paddle card/CD-ROM bundle
I know several such folks (CD-ROM Source here in Indianapolis) but they're ALL
U.S. folks....
* SLMR 2.1a * The way to love anything is to realize it might be lost.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3238
To: MARC STANTON Date: 09/15/93 12:02p
Subj: NIGHTOWL 9 Refer: NONE
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> So, Who Where When and all that sorta stuff might I find NightOwl 9 ?
>(216)848-1991
I had one of them at the Findley Hamfest this past weekend. I should have more
at the Springfield Hamfest on October 3.
Current price on them is $29....
* SLMR 2.1a * Do Radioactive Cats have 18 Half-Lifes?
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3239
To: ROBERT HARE Date: 09/15/93 12:04p
Subj: MULTI CD-ROM? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Yes there is one Panisonic Makes it and it is scsi
Pioneer, not Panasonic.
* SLMR 2.1a * Don't ask me, I was hired for my looks.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3240
To: ROBERT POWELL Date: 09/15/93 12:10p
Subj: PANASONIC CR562B Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Point #1 - If you take reasonable care of your equipment you are UNLIKELY to
>damage a CD disk.
I'm a good example - 10+ years using CDs, and I've NEVER damaged one (OK, one
exception that I took a hammer to!).
>CDs are on the other hand durable enough that some music
>stores purchase and sell used ones.
Quite a few such stores, actually - I would guess that there are as many folks
that deal in used CDs (between CD stores, pawn shops, etc.) as deal in new
ones.
>Point #2 - Drives that do not use caddies do not eat CDs the same way a cheap
>cassette player eats cassettes. They should not be considered inferior for
>solely because they use a tray mechanism.
Especially given how many caddy drives use the caddy as a "tray".
>Now let say you purchase 10 disks at an average cost of 40 dollars each and
>then buy 10 caddies at a cost of 7.50 each. You would have had to trash 2
>disks or 20 percent of your programs before buying the caddies will save you
>anything above the cost of their purchase.
Both numbers tend to be high - the LARGE majority of CD-ROMs around today
retail for less than $40, I'd estimate the "unit sales weighted average" would
be more like $25 to $30. On the other hand, caddies are COMMON at $5 give-or-
take a few cents.
>Point #4 - If you do not take reasonable care of your equipment, if you
>possess no hand/eye coordination, if you are prone to getting drunk while
>using your computer equipment, if you consistently trash music CDs just by
>looking at them, or if you allow your children to play with your computer then
>purchasing a CDROM that uses caddies IS A NECESSITY.
Actually, it is EASIER to damage a CD while inserting it in that caddy than it
is to damage one by "dropping" it in a tray. Only AFTER you have the CD in the
caddy is it "safer"....
* SLMR 2.1a * Your right to punch me ends just short of my nose!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3241
To: TAPANI TUOMINEN Date: 09/15/93 2:30p
Subj: I WANT CADDIES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Have you ever experienced playing and switching CD:s while
>driving a car equipped with a caddyless player?
Yes - for about 4 of the last 6 years now. It's NOT a problem if you are
patient (after all, the car DOES bounce around on some roads).
>GP>a stack of discs, I think it's much easier to rapidly find the disc y
>GP>want (by the color of the spine of the jewelbox, for example) than to
>GP>pull out the right disc that's been preloaded into one of a pile of
>GP>identical-looking caddies.
>This happens only if you have them in a stack.
Or in a CD holder.
>And caddies mostly come with stickers where you can write the name of the CD
>and this sticker is visible even when caddies are stacked.
Barely.
>Actually I think that if manufacturers don't
>pack their CD:s in caddies (which would probably increase the price by USD
2-3;
>big deal with a CD costing 50...100)
I don't know where you are getting YOUR CDs, but I don't SELL them for over $40
(much less BUY them for that HIGH).
>You must have been using only high end audio CD-players obviously.
I've used CD-players from ALL ends of the spectrum - and this "wear" garbage is
NOT a factor on any DECENT tray design. It MIGHT be a factor if you go through
discs on a 20+ a day rate on a CHEAP player, or if you are in a Record Station
type environment going through hundreds of discs a DAY....
* SLMR 2.1a * Prevent noise pollution. NUKE a Rapper!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3242
To: BOB JENKINS Date: 09/15/93 2:32p
Subj: MTMCDE VS MTMCDS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> The bozos who installed my Mitsumi loaded the software polling driver (ie.
>MTMCDE.SYS) and not the DMA driver...When I use the DMA driver, the drive
>slows down to the point where I think it's gone to la-la land.
Sounds like the "bozos" did the job RIGHT.
There is NO real advantage to the DMA driver in a DOS environment, and many
PROBLEMS with it - I've run the "polled" version for a couple of YEARS now
after the DMA version kept crashing under DesqView/QEMM....
* SLMR 2.1a * Gore's Environment book - filed under Fantasy....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3243
To: LEE NOGA Date: 09/15/93 4:18p
Subj: WHATS THIS? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>MK>> I cant believe it. Friend of mine visit the ONEBBSCON in Colorado a MK>>
>week ago and all he could bring me was a box of candy? From Lee Noga?!
>Hehehehhe, you should have asked him for one of the 'Hayes' modems hats!
I didn't see those, but I did end up with a GTEK hat....
* SLMR 2.1a * Don't look back - the lemmings are gaining on you!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3244
To: EDWARD TUSHAR Date: 09/15/93 4:20p
Subj: CD'S IN THE BACKGROUND Refer: NONE
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>Is there a way (or program) that will allow you to listen to CD's while doing
>other work on the computer?
Sure - it's called a CD (audio) player....
8-)
Seriously, most of the Audio play programs for CD-ROMs seem to be TSRs.
* SLMR 2.1a * I love my country. I FEAR my government....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3245
To: PHIL TREVORROW Date: 09/15/93 4:21p
Subj: CDROMS Refer: NONE
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> There are several read/write CDROM systems out. The cheapest sells for under
>a grand and can hold 128 megs. There is another that can hold 600 megs and
>another that can hold 1 gig.
NONE of those use a CD-compatable format. You are confusing "Erasable Optical"
drives with "CD" drives - the two do NOT mix!
>think the 1 gig goes from between 2 and 3 grand.
Maxtor Tahiti - $1295 or a bit less refurb, the Tahiti-II runs ballpark $3000
new last time I checked.
* SLMR 2.1a * Ask not for whom the Belle trolls....
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 3246
To: BURT RICH Date: 09/17/93 4:52a
Subj: Re: Adult CD'S used Refer: NONE
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On 14 Sep 93 12:07:00, I heard Burt Rich shout to All:
BR> I am looking to buy any used Adult CD ROMS that contain text,gifs, and
BR> animations/videos. Drop me mail and let me know what you have and what your
BR> asking privately. Located in Southern California and will pay shipping if
BR> needed.........
BR>
BR> Thanks
BR> Effx
I know Free Spirit Softwares Has alot of nice CD's, and they are around
$25-$35 Each... Which is a Good price.
Ask for Barney
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1-800-638-5757
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From: VICTOR YIU Number: 3247
To: ALL Date: 09/16/93 3:41p
Subj: MediaVision Fusion 16E Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello, All!
I recently got a MediaVision Fusion CD16E CD-ROM set... and inside, the
Pro Audio Spectrum was bundled inside. I've noticed that the card
applies a *heavy* filter at 22kHz playback and below. Is there a way to
remove that filter? I know in SoundBlaster compatibility mode it has no
filter, only PAS mode, and rate <=22kHz. Any help would be appreciated!
BTW -- the mixer utility PAS doesn't fix it... Thanks!
Victor
... If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried.
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 3248
To: MARCIAL MORENO Date: 09/17/93 9:05a
Subj: Re: cd-rom wholesalers. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I was just trying to be informative. BTW: Tenure has nothiung to do woth the
law. If you registered your name as a alias first then fine. But just because
you've been using it longer is no defense. Again, just trying to help. <EOT>
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 3249
To: LEE NOGA Date: 09/17/93 9:15a
Subj: Busty Babes Vol II-NI- Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LN> If the children are realizing that women can be photographed nud
LN> my post, well then I am glad they learned it from me--
Me, too. (Both sons are Eagle Scouts.) There was *NOTHING* prurient in
your post, Lee.
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 3250
To: LESLIE ROHRER Date: 09/17/93 9:22a
Subj: CADDY WARS Refer: NONE
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PLEASE join me in putting the "caddy wars" to rest. If you like/don't
like caddies, you can say so in one line. If someone asks, tell them
it's a matter of choice (the truth) and let it go at that. Please?
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 3251
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/17/93 9:20a
Subj: CADDY-O-RAMA Refer: NONE
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PLEASE join me in putting the "caddy wars" to rest! If you like/don't
like caddies, you can say so in one line. If someone asks, tell them it
really doens't matter (the truth) and let it go at that. Please??
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 3252
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/17/93 9:24a
Subj: CD PHOTOS Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
MS> sleeping dog lie, eh? Anyway, I was kind of waiting until Busty
^^^^^^^^^^^^
Not a very nice thing to say about someone's wife, Mike (GD&R).
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 3253
To: TODD OSTRER Date: 09/17/93 9:26a
Subj: cd's for sale Refer: NONE
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TO>
TO> ADULT
TO> -----
TO> Adult Palate (PC or Mac)........... 28 Adult Reference Library..
TO> After Dark Trilogy................. 40 All Beauties.............
TO> Animation Fantasies Vol 1 or 2..... 28 Asian Ladies.............
TO> Busty Babes........................ 29 Deep Throat..............
Not sure if everyone else saw it this way, but as you can see the prices
for the right-hand column were cutt-off. BTW: You should move this to
the For Sale echo - the moderator banned adult CD posts in this one.
(FYI).
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 3254
To: STEWART ROTHMAN Date: 09/17/93 9:53a
Subj: XXX CD's Refer: NONE
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SR> them or complaining about them being here in the echo, just curi
For the same reasons other folks use their computers to play games: It's
their personal choice. Neat concept, huh?
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From: CHRIS WOOD Number: 3255
To: ALL Date: 09/17/93 6:15p
Subj: Shareware Explorer Refer: NONE
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Greets All...
I just grabbed the Shareware Explorer here locally for $80.00 CDN ($60 U.S) and
I am VERY satisfied with the selection on the 4 volumes. The only complaint I
would have is the fact it's files.bbs descriptions are too long making it a
hasstle for Maximus BBS SyOps as myself. Just a little extra time with macros
in Qedit. Also the only way to find out the file area names was to use the
ACCESS.EXE file browsing util that came with it. It made it a tad more annoying
to set up the filearea.ctl entries.
Other than that, I highly recommend this set as being the best I've seen yet.
Cheers...
Chris - Team OS/2 - Internet: cwood@hpb.hwc.ca
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From: TIM PEETERS Number: 3256
To: GABRIEL KLYBER Date: 09/17/93 9:33p
Subj: Sb16&cd-rom Refer: NONE
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Hello Gabriel!
Thursday September 16 1993 17:25, Gabriel Klyber wrote to All:
GK> I have a SB16 and would like to hook a CD-ROM up to it. I know it only
GK> works with Mitsumi/Panasonic. I've heard of a new Mitsumi double-spin
GK> CD-ROM. Has anyone else heard or seen this? I was wondering what the price
GK> was. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks.
Thats funny, it work with my NEC.
BeSeeingYa,
Tim
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From: MARTIN ROODENBURG Number: 3257
To: STEVEN BALDASSARRA Date: 09/19/93 3:09p
Subj: Mitsumi CD ROM Unit Refer: NONE
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Hello Steven,
> Would like to know is Mitsumi LU-005S a multi-session or multi-
> session
> unit?
Tough question.
But yes, it's multi-session.
Bye,
Martin.
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From: RON FINDLING Number: 3258
To: ROGER SMITH Date: 09/16/93 7:58p
Subj: CD-ROM vs. disk versions Refer: NONE
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> RF> There would be a lot of advantages here for everyone (except pirates
> RF> and floppy disk manufacturers). Bigger (and presumably better)
> RF> programs, losses due to pirating cut way down, the elimination of the
> RF> "floppy shuffle," (replaced by the "CD shuffle"), etc, etc.
> RF> What does everyone think of this idea?
>And about that time cheap CDROM recorders hit the market
>and the pirates have a field day. :-}
Second reply, second time this was said. I dunno, if doing this
causes cheap CDROM recorders, I think I'll live with it! :)
=========================================================================
>I'm kind of afraid of the price of recordable CDROM drives
>and media coming down since companies will be afraid to put
>alot of data on CDROMs if the data can be copied easily and
>inexpensively.
It doesn't seem to be stopping them from making bigger and bigger
floppy-based programs... Corel Draw is - what? - 10 disks? Strike
Commander is at 8 disks, OS/2 at 20 or so...
The thing is, once companies become more proficient at making multi-media,
and once CD-ROM drives become cheap enough, we're going to see more MM.
And MM can chew up so much CD-ROM space that the "CD-ROM shuffle" is
inevitable - so "7th Guest IV" might take up 7 or 8 CDs..
=========================================================================
On another related topic, I wonder when we're going to see backwardly
compatible drives based on the "colored laser" technology - where
varying this can up the storage capacity of a CD by several times...
it's inevitable the "700M barrier" (or whatever it is) is broken
eventually... just like floppy drives went from 360K to 720K to (etc.).
Since the technology is available, I wonder if the manufacturers aren't
doing everyone a disservice by not trying to make it the standard as
soon as possible... because they WILL come out eventually, and the
longer it takes, the more people are going to have to upgrade (and be
upset about doing it)...
___
X SLMR 2.1a X I didn't vote for Clinton *or* her idiot husband!
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3259
To: POE LIM Date: 09/18/93 3:34p
Subj: Q'S On These New Panason Refer: NONE
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Hi Poe!
On 09-14-93 Poe Lim wrote to Rowan Evans...
PL> On Sep 12 10:42 in a msg to Poe Lim, Rowan Evans of 3:711/413 wrote:
PL>
PL> > The same time as the CR562B is released to the general populace??
PL> > <g>
PL>
PL> As far as I know, the CR562B is available now,
Homour Poe, humour... I was having a bit of trouble sourcing a second
one at a similar price to the first....
PL> but not the new SCSI version (I'm getting a bit confused with
PL> their version number now; there are 3 numbers quoted for a SCSI
PL> double spin, multi-session drive) which the agent said will be
PL> available around Christmas; merely relaying the info, as the SCSI
PL> version is not priced quite as competitively as the SB
PL> version, althouh has a larger cache (256K vs 64K).
Believe CR503 as the 300Kbps, 320ms avg acess, motorised tray loading
SCSI-2 Panasonic CD-ROM drive.... I have a photocopy of the spex here
and there are only minor differences between the two....
What price were you quoted?? I would really like to compare one of these
drives to the NEC CDR74-1 and confirm/deny my beliefs about SCSI CD-ROMs.
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3260
To: DAVID CHILDRESS Date: 09/18/93 3:37p
Subj: CD-ROM questions Refer: NONE
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Hi David!
On 09-12-93 David Childress wrote to Rowan Evans...
DC> Thanks for your $10.00! I'm new at this CD stuff, but I'm going to
DC> learn!
The only people who've stopped learning are *DEAD*! <g> Let me know what
CD-ROM drive, etc you settle on....
DC> BTW, what part of Australia are you from?
Sunny Sydney....... I take it from your lagline that you're in California?
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3261
To: JOHN HART Date: 09/18/93 3:39p
Subj: 16-bit sound cards Refer: NONE
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Hi John!
On 09-12-93 John Hart wrote to Rowan Evans...
..[Comments on sound cards deleted]..
JH> Check out the October issue of Computer Shopper. They compared a
JH> bunch of 16 bit cards, if you want signal to noise ratio info and
JH> stuff like that if you're interested.
Thanx, I'll do that when that issue of Computer Shopper arrives at the
local newsagent next December/January! (Bulk seamail is *SLOW*!) <g>...
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3262
To: TIM WENAS Date: 09/18/93 4:03p
Subj: Cl Sbpro16/Cd-Rom Combo Refer: NONE
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Hi Tim!
On 09-12-93 Tim Wenas wrote to All...
TW> Hi all.... well done if you could decode the subject line :):)
Done and answering! <g>
TW> I'm thinking of getting a Creative Labs Soundblaster Pro 16 and CD-ROM
TW> drive combination multi-thingo. I've been told to get a nice fast
TW> drive.
True... Things like The 7th Guest are *SLOW* on a 150Kbps drive...
TW> How does double-speed,multi-session sound? Is it at all good?:) I
TW> think the multi-session means it can read photo-CD and writable CDs.
TW> Double speed I think means 300 KB/sec transfer rate, or twice the
TW> old one?
All correct....
TW> What I'm looking at is:
TW> Soundblaster Pro 16
TW> Panasonic <I think> CD-ROM drive, 300kb/s, multi-speed double thing
TW> Bookshelf, Sherlock holmes, voice recognition softs and about 3 other
TW> CDs all for about $799 Aust.
That's the Discovery Kit... Then there's the Performance and Premium Kits
with more CD-ROMs..... $A799.00 is about the best you'll find it for...
TW> Has anyone had experience with the Creative Labs multimedia bundle,
TW> esp. with the CD drive, and what are your opinions? Can you recommend
TW> any other multimedia kits? I've seen a double PAS-16, which is roughly
TW> the equivalent <i think> but costs about $1299 Aust.
Bought a Creative Labs Business kit with the SB 16 ASP and CR563 drive in
May '93 and have been soliloquising about them ever since.... *LOVE IT*
Bought a PAS-16 and NEC CDR-55 at the same time (the CDR-55 is also a
double speed/Photo CD drive) and must state that it cost as much for the
PAS16/CDR-55 bare (no CDs) as it did for the entire CL kit and, as its
SCSI, its not as fast.... The PAS16/CDR-55 is still a good combo (it
doesn't experience the "voice breakups" that occur to an SB in T7G), but
as you say, it costs more for less.....
Hope this helps!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3263
To: IAN SHORTT Date: 09/18/93 4:10p
Subj: Buying a CD-ROM package Refer: NONE
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Hi Ian!
On 09-14-93 Ian Shortt wrote to All...
IS> I am looking at buying a CD-ROM package, and am after advice.
Buy a Creative Labs kit! For a similar price to the Media Vision
Fusion kits, you get a double speed (300Kbps Tfr) fast access (320ms)
motorised tray loading CD-ROM drive with a middle of the road sound
card... (I prefer the PAS in some respects to the SB 16 ASP)....
The bottom of the range kit is the SoundBlaster CD 16 Discovery kit at
$A799.00... Has STW MM Encyc, Grandma & Me, Animals & two other CD-ROMs.
IS> particularly on which encyclopedia is best - the choice
IS> seems to be between Software Toolworks (which I think is
IS> Grolier), or Comptons.
I haven't seen the Compton's MM Encyclopaedia, but the Comptons Family
Encyclopaedia (in the MV Fusion kits) is utter SH*T..... The STW/Groliers
MM Encyclopaedia is an excellent one at a reasonable price.... MS-Encarta
is pretty, but overpriced and its reference is less comprehensive than
the STW/Groliers.
IS> I'm running a 386SX-16, with 4Mb of
IS> memory, and 130Mb hard disk drive. Any help you can give
IS> on specifications (doublespeed, multi-session, etc), and
IS> choice of software on CD would be very welcome.
Next thing its to get you to buy a 486SX/33 motherboard and another 4Mb
of memory....
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3264
To: IAN DALWOOD Date: 09/18/93 4:15p
Subj: Re: Buying A Cd-Rom Pack Refer: NONE
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Hi Ian!
On 09-15-93 IAN DALWOOD wrote to IAN SHORTT...
ID> PS: I'm rather impressed by the Labtec CS-550 speakers that came with
ID> my Fusion 16!
I agree with your comments on the Fusion CD16 kits.... I went out and
got an SB 16 ASP with the Panasonic CR562B and sold my Fusion kit....
*BUT* I loved the PAS16 for its sound (in 16-bit mode, I prefer it to
the SB 16 ASP, but the PAS16 doesn't support a Panasonic AT bus CD-ROM
drive 8^(....) I also loved the Labtec CS-550s.... Does anyone know
where to source a set of Labtec CS-550s in Australia???
Cheers!
o
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ID>
ID> ... Greetings from Canberra, Australia
ID> ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
ID>
ID> --- InterBBS 6.0
ID> * Origin: The InterACTive BBS - Canberra, Aust. [4 lines]
ID> (3:620/243.0)
ID>
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3265
To: ALAN WHITEMORE Date: 09/18/93 4:20p
Subj: Panasonic 562b + Sb Mono Refer: NONE
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Hi Alan!
On 09-14-93 Alan Whitemore wrote to Rowan Evans...
AW> 12 Sep 93 10:58, Rowan Evans wrote to Alan Whitemore:
AW>
AW> I've only tested the transfer rate on 3-4meg files. Maybe I'll give it
AW> another benchmark using a larger file. I thought you may have achieved
AW> something up in the 220Kbs range using SB16 ASP as the controller. If
AW> that had been the case, then there may have been enough there for me
AW> to justify upgrading the sound card. I don't think spending over $200
AW> Aust on a sound card is worthwhile at present just to have the added
AW> ability of playing audio CD's through the sound card.
It all depends on the benchmark you use, Alan... Some report extremely
good throughputs for the CR562B attached to the SB 16 ASP, but I do
get a little curious when 612Kbps is reported! (T7G install)
AW> Just as a matter of interest, how clear is the Audio in your
AW> encyclopedia using SB 16 ASP? I'm finding the sound quite clear
AW> through a SB mono, but distortion in the upper and lower ranges is
AW> quite evident in some of the classical music selections. The animal
AW> and bird sounds seem crystal clear though.
I think its more the speakers than the sound card, as I like to hear
my Audio CDs fairly *LOUD* and have had a lot of trouble finding a
set of speakers that will cope!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3266
To: ALAN WHITEMORE Date: 09/18/93 4:33p
Subj: panasonic 562b Refer: NONE
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Hi Again Alan!
On 09-14-93 Alan Whitemore wrote to Rowan Evans...
AW> ** Quoting Rowan Evans to David Winger **
AW>
AW> AW> Is there any trick to setting up a Panasonic 562B CD-ROM with a
AW> AW> Mono 8 bit SB card?
AW>
AW> DW> I have the same problem. Let me know if you find a solution.
AW>
AW> RE> The only solution possible is to sell the 8-bit SB 1.5/2.0 card
AW> RE> and buy an SB Pro/16/16 ASP.....
AW>
AW> Well that last line is wrong. If I unplug the cable connecting the
AW> CD-ROM to the line-in on the SB whilst an audio piece is playing, I
AW> lose all sound. How can the line-in be for recording purposes =only=?
What type of Audio piece are we talking about here Alan?? I mean, you're
getting pretty strict at correcting me (I don't mind it if I'm wrong <g>)..
and then you don't provide sufficient info to let me know *EXACTLY* what
you're doing!
AW> I think you're going to try and crawl out of this by using the "Oh! I
AW> thought he was talking about audio CD's" bulldust. How about admitting
AW> you're wrong ;-)
OK I'm wrong <g>.... I no longer have an SB 2.0, so I can't test it!
AW> There's no doubt that SB 16 or SB pro are good
AW> solutions for the 562B in that they can used for the interface card as
AW> well as sound but for me at least, there doesn't seem to be any point
AW> in upgrading a SB mono card that is currently providing perfectly good
AW> sound. When I want to listen to Audio CD's, I reach around and unplug
AW> the cable from the line out on the SB and plug it into the 'phone'
AW> jack on the CD-ROM drive. Big deal.
There appears to be some contradiction here.... You said earlier "unplug
the cable connecting the CD-ROM to the line-in on the SB whilst an audio
piece is playing"... and now you say you have to move the speaker cable
from line out to the headphone socket of the CD-ROM to hear an audio CD...
What gives??
OK, to conclude....
1. The mono SB 1.0/1.5/2.0 WILL provide sound for multimedia
applications and, unless you want stereo sound and a CD-ROM
controller on the sound card, you don't have to buy anything
else....
2. The mono SB (etc) WILL NOT allow youto hear Audio CDs though
the speakers connected to the SB, even if you have the CD-ROM
drive headphone jack connected to line-in of the SB and [MCI]
CD Audio loaded....
Is this correct from your testing?? If so, please advise so that the
correct (and verified) information amy be passed on to anyone who asks!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3267
To: ANDREW SEE Date: 09/18/93 4:35p
Subj: Pro Audio Studio 16XL Refer: NONE
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Hi Andrew!
On 09-11-93 Andrew See wrote to ROWAN EVANS...
AS> RE> The ordinary PAS16 sounded pretty good to me!
AS>
AS> After you hear a decent wavetable card, the beeps and boinks of FM
AS> will sound like a toy. Have you heard a GUS or a Roland Sound Canvas?
Wavetable wasn't (still isn't) a priority, however it's nice to know
that I can connect a Wave Blaster to my SB 16 ASP when it does become so!
As for the two wavetable cards you mentioned, the GUS SCSI is *STILL*
not available and I don't know whether the Roland has CD-ROM support
onboard.....
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3268
To: ERIC ESKAM Date: 09/18/93 4:38p
Subj: Panasonic Cr-523b Refer: NONE
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Hi Eric!
On 09-14-93 Eric Eskam wrote to Rowan Evans...
EE> OK... thanks! I will send you something back in return (for your
EE> trouble).
EE>
EE> I didn't even pay attention to the origin line(!), - I
EE> don't remember where zone three is....
OK, its in the mail on Monday 20/09/93.... Coming AIRMAIL....
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3269
To: MARK WALKER Date: 09/18/93 4:42p
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
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Hi Mark!
On 09-14-93 Mark Walker wrote to Rowan Evans...
MW> In a message of <11 Sep 93 11:25:10>, Rowan Evans (3:711/413) writes:
MW>
MW> > You obviously *ARE* picking on me, as you didn't send a copy of
MW> > this to Les Rhorer! <g>
MW> If he had been the only one having the argument with you (whoops
MW> discussion) I would have asked him to stop also.
Well, our discussion brought heaps of other people into the discussion, I
don't remember ever actually sending a message to anyone else other than
Les to say "come and join the party!".... There are a lot of people with
caddy type CD-ROM drives that appear to be insecure enough to have to
join in to beat on one guy who says *NOT!*.... <g>
BTW, have you seen the snide comments re caddys/no caddys that get
slipped into other messages.... It's just that this thread explicitly
has comparing the pros and cons of the two approaches!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3270
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/18/93 4:45p
Subj: Re: CD's in the backgrou Refer: NONE
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Hi Les!
On 09-14-93 Leslie Rhorer wrote to Edward Tushar...
LR> ET> Is there a way (or program) that will allow you to listen
LR> ET> to CD's while doing other work on the computer? Just
LR> ET> wondering. And no, I don't do WINDOWS!<G>
LR>
LR> Sure, with two restrictions. First, you have to have a hardware
LR> setup that is capable of listening to an audio CD, unless
LR> you are listening to audio files for a sound card off a CD.
LR> In either case, however, you will not be able to use the
LR> CD for other applications at the same time. OS/2 handles
LR> all these very well.
There is a DOS based CD Player on Night Owl 8 (CDPLAY2.ZIP I believe)
that operates as a TSR and *DOES* allow you to do other things in DOS
while you're listening to a CD.... I've often used it to play a CD
while I do my echo mail downloads at 14.4Kbps using telemate 4.00 in
DOS......
LR> I don't do Windows, either.
I won't enter the Operating System wars!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3271
To: ADAM EDWARDS Date: 09/18/93 4:47p
Subj: 16 Bit Cards Refer: NONE
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Hi Adam!
On 09-09-93 Adam Edwards wrote to Andre Queree...
AE> Only problem is that often the games that have setting for SBPro only
AE> use the SB driver anyway. And even if they do use stereo, its still no
AE> higher quality than standard SB. ie still 8bit just 8bit stereo.
Some games now are starting to have two SB Pro drivers, the OPL3 based
drivers is *NOT* an 8-bit SB driver!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3272
To: MICHAEL BERNSTEIN Date: 09/18/93 4:57p
Subj: Sound Card Refer: NONE
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Hi Maichael!
On 09-13-93 Michael Bernstein wrote to Paul Swider...
MB> PS> Francois, the advantage of connecting a CDROM to the sound card
MB> PS> is you only use one slot in your computer instead of two.
MB>
MB> Your logic is right, but your reality is wrong. I have the Fusion kit
MB> from Media Vision (the non 16-bit version) and in the kit came two
MB> cards. One being a PAS+ card with SCSI adapter and another board which
MB> is some kind of converter for the SCSI.
You have an external CD-ROM drive, n'est ce pas? I haven't seen the
original PAS, but the PAS16 only requires the little borad if you have to
attach an external SCSI drive (it doesn't really require a slot, just an
outlet to the world!).... Is this the same with the PAS???
MB> Don't know if they got rid of this second board in the Fusion 16.
The standard Fusion 16 kit uses the SONY AT bus CD-ROM drive connected
internally, directly off the PAS16SLCD... The SCSI Fusion 16 kits, if
internal connect directly to the SCSI connector on the PAS16.... The
external kits still require the daughtercard....
MB> The good thing about SCSI is that it is the
MB> standard in CD-ROM cards, that's the important thing.
The good thing about SCSI for CD-ROMs is that it drags the fast drive's
transfer rate down so that a proprietary bus CD-ROM starts to look
extremely good! (Especially as they're normally cheaper than SCSI!)....
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3273
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/18/93 5:01p
Subj: Night Owl 9 Specials Refer: NONE
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Hi Mike!
On 09-13-93 Mike Shannon wrote to Doug Carpenter...
MS> BTW: Your Firearms Reference is on the way. Good lookin CD.
Don't tell me - it'll *REALLY* blow him away! <g>
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3274
To: DEBBIE MARANTZ Date: 09/18/93 5:54p
Subj: 562b/563 Refer: NONE
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Hi Debbie!
On 09-15-93 Debbie Marantz wrote to Rowan Evans...
DM> Thanks for the information on the 562b/563 Panasonic CD Rom
DM> and it was just what the doctor ordered. What had me mildly
DM> puzzled was when I asked Creative about the 562b, their
DM> reply was that their software / drivers were being written
DM> for the 563 and there was the possibility that their
DM> software would / might not be reliable when using the 562b.
Yeah, and over in Australia the CD-ROM drivers mysteriously disappeared
from their BBS one night!
Also the latest SBCD.SYS has a crude encryption of CR-563XXXX built in,
but it doesn't seem to mind if it only finds a CR-562B! The actual
Panasonic driver, CDMKE.SYS, has an optional parameter /SBP:xxx to allow
use of that driver with SoundBlaster Pro/16/16 ASP.....
DM> I guess one could say that this might be a good way to sell
DM> lots of 563 OMNI packages.
Well, the picture I saw of am OMNI showed it with an 8-bit paddle card
similar to that supplied with my CR562B. I'll have to try and source a
kit so I can check to see what drivers it uses!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3275
To: TIM WENAS Date: 09/18/93 8:02p
Subj: What Is "Mpc-compatible Refer: NONE
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Hi Tim!
On 09-15-93 Tim Wenas wrote to Ed Turnock...
TW> Um.... I believe that an MPC compatible PC is a computer that meets
TW> the "MICROSTUFFED" definition of a multimedia computer, ie: <off the
TW> top of my head>:
TW> -286 or higher, 1 mg ram, 30mg HD, 8bit sound card and some kind of
TW> CD-rom drive.
Its a little more specific than that!
1. CPU *MUST* be at least a 386SX/16!
2. CD-ROM drive *MUST* be capable of sustained 150Kbps transfer rate at
<40% CPU utilisation & have an average seek of <1 second (1000ms).
TW> BTW, anyone got any advice or comments on the Panasonic /Creative
TW> Labs CD-ROM drives?
Ny advice is *BUY ONE*..... I think its the best thing since the 486DX2/66!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3276
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/18/93 8:07p
Subj: Sony 535 Speedup Refer: NONE
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Hi Brice!
On 09-10-93 Brice Fleckenstein wrote to Rj Kulman...
BF> >BM>After Talking to Sony and Trantor Systems (formerly Adaptek) I was
BF> told
BF>
BF> > the other way around...Adaptec is TRANTOR
BF>
BF> Unless somethng happened VERY recently, both Adaptec and Trantor are
BF> independent companies.
Mid-July is recent??
I was at a local symposium held by the Aust Distributor for Adaptec and
they had some of the Adaptec staff there.....
One question asked was -
"What did Adaptec think of the DB-25 connector being used by some
companies as their SCSI connector rather than the 50pin Centronics type
connector?".
The Adaptec techo's answer was -
"Since we've bought Trantor, we think its fine!"
Hope this adds some info for your files!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3277
To: BRIAN RYCHLICKI Date: 09/18/93 8:15p
Subj: Panasonic cd562-b / sbpr Refer: NONE
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Hi Brian!
On 09-14-93 Brian Rychlicki wrote to All...
BR> I just spent about three hours with a dealer trying to
BR> install a CD562B onto my system which is a 386DX40,
BR> coProcessor, 8 Meg of Ram, and a Sound Blaster Pro. No luck
BR> reading disks.
BR>
BR> The hardware installation went very quick since "they" say that it
BR> plugs directly into the SBPRO.
It does... Take my word for it.... I have seen/touched one connected to
an SB Pro 2 and a mate at work has one connected to an SB Pro 1 (Mine's
connected to an SB 16 ASP).....
BR> We then installed the audio cable
BR> into the SBPro. The Drive number was set to "0" on the
BR> 562B. The installation disk supplied was a COMPRO disk
BR> which appeared to be very quick and simple by selecting the
BR> 562B drive with the SBPRO.
What device driver?? CDMKE.SYS or SBCD.SYS.... If you're trying to use
SBPCD.SYS then you'll have a lot of trouble!
BR> The dealer said it could be my motherboard, which I doubt.
Highly unlikely...
BR> Please help by providing some ideas or solutions. Thanks in Advance.
As I said, check the device driver in CONFIG.SYS....
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3278
To: STEVE MANN Date: 09/18/93 8:34p
Subj: Cl Sbpro16/Cd-Rom Combo Refer: NONE
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Hi Steve!
On 09-16-93 Steve Mann wrote to Tim Wenas...
SM> > Soundblaster Pro 16
SM> > Panasonic <I think> CD-ROM drive, 300kb/s, multi-speed double
SM> > thing Bookshelf, Sherlock holmes, voice recognition softs and
SM> > about 3 other CDs all for about $799 Aust.
SM>
SM> My question to you is where did you find the price of $799 for this
SM> kit. I have checked out all over Sydney and have found prices
SM> ranging from $850 to $1300. I would appreciate it if you
SM> could netmail me with any of the details (Shop, address,
SM> phone, prices etc.).
Try Meghead at Chatswood - talk to Karl..... (02) 415-3355
1 Railway St, Chatswood, NSW, 2067.....
They have the SB CD 16 Discovery kit there for around the $A799.00....
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3279
To: STEVE MANN Date: 09/18/93 8:39p
Subj: Where to buy SB16/MM upg Refer: NONE
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Steve!
On 09-16-93 Steve Mann wrote to All...
SM> Can anyone recommend a particular SB kit and where to buy
SM> it for a reasonable price.
If all else fails, talk to Creative Pacific (previously ComputaMart)
in Artarmon. The're the Aussie distributor for this stuff....
SB CD16 Discovery Kit $A 799.00
SB CD16 Performance Kit $A 999.00
SB CD16 Premium Kit $A1199.00
The only difference is the number of CD-ROMs in the kits!
SM> Note: In my previous message I am replying to Tim Wenas who
SM> writes from Melbourne that a similar kit can be bought for
SM> $799. This sounds good to me.
I also replied to your earlier msg....
Cheers!
o
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From: STEFAN KRESLIN Number: 3280
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/18/93 6:51a
Subj: Q'S On These New Panason Refer: NONE
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From: POE LIM Number: 3281
To: GREG MCDONELL Date: 09/18/93 9:29p
Subj: Echo Rules Refer: NONE
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Hello Greg,
On Sep 13 10:04 in a msg to Poe Lim, Greg Mcdonell of 3:711/920 wrote:
> Hi Poe, seems I've just been volunteered for something 8-)
I thought from your message you were willing to bring it in. <shrug>
> Seriously tho', I was expressing support as a regular reader, I do
> not operate a BBS of any kind, and am not really set up to be a mail
> hub.
Leave the expensive bit to others eh? <g> As it is, the message content is just
right, with no long ads, which may not be the same in the CDROM ads echo, so we
get a possible doubling of traffic (I wonder how many messages it generates),
and hence cost.
Cheers,
Poe
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From: POE LIM Number: 3282
To: JAMES REAMES JR Date: 09/18/93 9:35p
Subj: Re: 7th Guest Refer: NONE
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Hello James,
On Sep 13 18:26 in a msg to Russell Hardie, James Reames Jr of 1:124/6302
wrote:
> you are correct.. The first versions of 7Th Guest had problems with
> VESA and the SVGA gfx... Try calling a bbs and look for the newset
> update. Then it should work ok..
Do you happen to have the date for the latest fix? I tried one with files dated
5/93, and am still having problems with voice, and it dies at the start (where
you face the stairs).
Cheers,
Poe
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From: POE LIM Number: 3283
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/18/93 9:42p
Subj: Cr562b Cd-rom Drive Refer: NONE
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Hello Rowan,
On Sep 14 20:40 in a msg to Michael Cooper, Rowan Evans of 3:711/413 wrote:
> You'd be disappointed with the throughput of a SCSI CD-ROM after
> seeing a CR562B in action!
I really have to try this bit out; must get a 562B and run it against my 3401
to rate throughput. And I wonder how would the CR-503 compare; it would be the
easiest solution as I don't have to get a new soundcard, and I can take 2 more
SCSI devices.
> SB 2.0 compat..) and the SB16 ASP comes out a close third with the
> option of the Wave Blaster wave table synthesis daughter card and
> will allow the attachment of a CR562B, so I went with the SB16 ASP!
> Haven't been disappointed yet!
How's the sound like for the SB16 ASP? I've read some people saying it's not
that good, and doesn't do SB Pro and you'd be better off with the PAS 16, then
others say it's pretty good. From memory you may have had the chance to compare
the two; just wondering if it's worth it going that way, or I'd be better off
with a SB Pro first, and wait for the new OPL.
Cheers,
Poe
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From: POE LIM Number: 3284
To: TONY STOTT Date: 09/18/93 9:55p
Subj: Echo Into Zone 3 Refer: NONE
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Hello Tony,
On Sep 15 13:23 in a msg to Andrew Barfoot, Tony Stott of 3:714/906 wrote:
> I have been advised by my sysop that Dave Hatch, who evidently
> brings the cdrom echo into Australia will NOT drop thi echo, and is
> considering bringing cdromsale in as well. No need to be
> concerned..
Good! At least that problem will not occur; when does Dave intend to start so
links can be set up.
> ! Origin: Coastal Communications Multiline BBS (02)977-6820
> (3:714/906)
Err, isn't Chris the Sysop? :)
Cheers,
Poe
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From: POE LIM Number: 3285
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/18/93 10:14p
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Gordon,
On Sep 12 22:09 in a msg to Poe Lim, Gordon Peterson of 2:320/203 wrote:
> You're either only buying EXPENSIVE CD-ROMs, or getting your caddies
Got it in one. :) There are some specialised ROM around retailing in the $K
region; just because most CDs mentioned here are not that expensive doesn't
mean they don't exist.
BTW, re audio CDs, they are priced a *lot* cheaper than data CDs, and a scratch
doesn't do as much harm (whereas the loss of a byte may render a program
useless).
Cheers,
Poe
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From: POE LIM Number: 3286
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/18/93 10:18p
Subj: New Mpc Specs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Gordon,
On Sep 13 10:12 in a msg to Tony Stott, Gordon Peterson of 2:320/203 wrote:
> If a "standard" isn't to mean anything, then clearly the users have
> no reason to worry about whether or not they buy a system that
> conforms to a "standard". Of course technology and capability will
Standard means a lot; at least with MPC1 and MPC2, buyers will *know* if their
setup will be able to cope with that new latest greatest program on ROM, and
have something to aim for. It's no good buying a program that requires MPC2
when you don't have the necessary hardware. As to standards changing, yes, they
have to up the ante as hardware prices decline, and user demands increase;
there is nothing wrong with that as there is a new, or new level, of the
standard, and not a re-definition of a standard (as you seem to imply). DOS 1
was a standard (yes, even DOS can be seen as a standard); are you saying that
we should all adhere to that, and forget things like HD etc?
Cheers,
Poe
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From: POE LIM Number: 3287
To: MICHAEL BUENTER Date: 09/18/93 10:29p
Subj: Inexpensive SCSI CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Michael,
On Sep 13 17:34 in a msg to All, Michael Buenter of 2:301/602@fidonet wrote:
> I'm looking for an inexpensive SCSI CD-ROM drive for my bbs. It
> should work with OS/2 2.1.
Currently the Panasonic CR-503 would probably be the best bet as it's SCSI-2,
and thus should be able to use the the supplied CD-ROM driver.
BTW, and further work on EE?
Cheers,
Poe
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From: JOHN BAYLEY Number: 3288
To: RUSSELL HARDIE Date: 09/17/93 9:38a
Subj: 7th guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Russell!
I had very much the same difficulty as you in getting 7TH GUEST to run with
the Cirrus Logic 5426 VLB card.
After much frustration and head scratching, I came up with the following
scheme:
First get a copy of the "Fix-up" files for 7th Guest which are available as an
archive called T7G_FIX or T7G124 or similar from various bulletin boards or
perhaps the distributer. (I think I got my copy from The Software Works BBS in
Melb.) It is also on Night Owls 9 CDROM I think. These contain fixes to cure a
couple of common crashes ("Sound buffer failure" etc in the original game and
to allow it to run properly with Cirrus cards which have a VESA driver in ROM.
Uncompress these files into some convenient temp directory, say \T7G_FIX.
From the install disc (disc 2) run the Paradise VESA driver. It should install
OK with no visible ill effects if your video board is similar to mine.
Now run the install programme. It should report a VESA video card and happily
install the game to the ID\T7G\ directory.
With that done, copy all the files from your temp T7G_FIX directory into the
ID\T7G directory. These will replace some of the originals.
Now REBOOT your PC. This will remove the Paradise VESA driver which was only
loaded to fool the install programme.
Go to the ID\T7G dir and type T7G. Everything should run like a charm!
An alternative method is to do a standard install, then edit the file
GROOVIE.INI in the ID\T7G dir to change the video type from UNKNOWN to VESA.
You still need the fix-up files, of course.
It all worked for me, I hope it does for you too!
John.
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From: TOM BULUM Number: 3289
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/16/93 9:03a
Subj: Re: Panasonic CD drive Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Rowan Evans was heard mumbling to Gaetano Calia about Re: Panasonic CD
drive<=-
RE> Hi Gaetano!
RE>
RE> On 09-08-93 Gaetano Calia wrote to Rowan Evans...
GC> RE> What version of SBCD.SYS? There is a version 4.11 driver around
GC> RE> (off Compuserve) that hangs on a mate's machine and two that I've
GC> RE> tried it on.......
GC>
GC> i. Did you wait long enough?
RE>
RE> Yep.... It was a corrupt .SYS file.... The distributor re-posted it a
RE> few days later and it works fine now!
GC> I just installed Version 4.11 and it indeed seems that the
GC> system hangs for some seconds, but then it boots
GC> on no problemo. The older driver was faster. Is that a bug or a
GC> feature ?
RE>
RE> Depends on what you're looking at... The 4.0 SBCD.SYS was plenty
RE> fast, but would "jerk" in T7G when moving & playing sound... 4.10
RE> beta & 4.11 appear to have fixed the problem.....
RE>
Hiya Rowan,
I've got SBCD.SYS V4.11 but I use another file, SBPCD_V2.SYS which is version
2.00 . Any ideas which one is better?
Tom.
... Windows: A colourful clown suit for DOS.
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From: SOPH PETROU Number: 3290
To: ALL Date: 09/17/93 4:04p
Subj: Mitsumi CD ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi All,
Does anybody know if 2 Mitsumi cd roms can be daisy chained off a SOUND
GALAXY NXPRO?
THANX IN ADVANCE, SOPH.......
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From: GUY OMER Number: 3291
To: SAM BECKWITH Date: 09/12/93 9:41a
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Sam,
Please be so kind as to send your CD-ROM list(s) to:
Guy Omer - 3957 NW 9th CT - Gainesville, FL 32605-4713
I'm a SpitFire sysop and am -always- looking for new/best CD's for my
system. Clearly CD's with SFFILES.BBS 'work' best for me. Please also note:
price <drat> is also important.
* SPITFIRE v3.3
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From: GUY OMER Number: 3292
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/18/93 10:42a
Subj: Catalog...please Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please be so kind as to send CD-ROM/hardware 'list(s)' to:
Guy Omer
3957 NW 9th Court
Gainesville, FL 32605-4713
PS: If possible, please, 'mark' CD's that are BBS ready for my SpitFire BBS
<smile>. s/ guy
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From: DALE A COOK Number: 3293
To: MARK ALBACHII?? Date: 09/18/93 2:51a
Subj: CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
looking tt purchase noghtowl #9 please send info! thanx!
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From: PAM TEMPLE Number: 3294
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/17/93 9:13a
Subj: 10 LINES Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
Bob Hall wrote in a message to All:
BH> See... 10 lines.
Well at this end it came out as only 9 lines - so you continue to be on the
side of the angels.
Cheers,
Pam
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From: PAM TEMPLE Number: 3295
To: ALL SELLING CDS Date: 09/17/93 9:17a
Subj: Origin & currency Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello All!
Since a lot of origin lines do not provide location and almost nobody states
what currency the prices are in (all assuming I suppose US$) may I humbly
suggest that either the location of the seller and/or the specifics of the
currency be posted along with the list of CDs for sale? Please. In Canada we
have to add about 20% to get the real cost to us for USA originating CDs, and
get out the calculator for anywhere else.
Cheers,
Pam
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 3296
To: ALL Date: 09/18/93 2:30p
Subj: Sony's Duals Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
How much do those SONY dual drives go for and what do they come with?
How fast, access time? Can I hook it up to my existing computer that has
2 HDs and an external cd already?
An acquaintance of mine picked up a NEW one at a local swap meet for
150.00, is this a good price?
Any help would be appreciated.
Adrian Salas
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From: CHRIS MOORE Number: 3297
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/17/93 10:27a
Subj: CD BENCHMARKING SOFTWARE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Rowan
I replied to your message way back in July about the CD-ROM benchmarking
software, but recently found that some of my echomail has been going into
a black hole somewhere.
RE> On 07-14-93 Chris Moore wrote to Steve Lin...
RE>
RE> CM> > Does anybody have a good CD-ROM benchmarking program? CDTA
RE> CM> > doesn't cut it.
RE> CM>
RE> CM> I have one on my BBS called CDSPEED.ZIP (about 77K). Feel
RE> CM> free to FREQ it. I don't know how good it is, but it takes
RE> CM> a long time to run and spews out lots of numbers.
RE>
RE> Is there any way you can send this file to Australia (apart from the
RE> Post Orifice???)..... I don't think that the BBS I'm attached to allows
RE> File Attach or FREQ.....
If you want to send me a snail mail address, I'll put a diskette in the
mail. If I may, I'll also send you information about our health & safety
CD-ROMs. (I work for the Canadian Centre for Occupational Health and
Safety). I'd appreciate it if you post the files on your local BBS (I
take it from the name "Medical MAX", that this is a medically-oriented
BBS(?)) and pass the information on to whomever you think would find it
useful.
Chris
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From: DOMINIQUE PERRON Number: 3298
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/18/93 6:37p
Subj: Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Adrian!
Can you send a Catalog to:
Dominique Perron
DomTech
P.B. #76012
Aylmer, PQ, Canada
J9H 4P1
Thanks
Cheers
Dom
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From: BENNY FOSTER Number: 3299
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/18/93 9:26a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 9 SPECIALS Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
-> Give what a rest? Not trying to contradict you Doug, I just wanted t
-> know which CD's you were referring to that had newer files than Night
-> 9. Like I said, I wasn't aware of any 3 weeks ago but that doesn't m
-> there weren't any. Just thought you might have some new *goodies* th
-> haven't seen yet. 8)
Night Owl 9 is very good and not many have newer files but give So Much
Shareware III a try. I found a lot of new files that were not on Night
Owl. Also, the "Heaven" series has a lot of new releases but from what I
see they are not BBS ready.
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From: BENNY FOSTER Number: 3300
To: JAMES WILLIAMS Date: 09/18/93 9:32a
Subj: Mitsumi CD-ROM Audio Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I have just bought a Mitsumi CD-Rom drive Model LU005U, this is there
-> latest High Speed Drive. I'm happy with it but am having trouble with
-> the audio. I can get audio from the front mounted headphone jacks but
-> connecting the drive to my sound card (a plain Sound Blaster) with t
-> cable that came with the sound card and then running the out put of t
-> sound card to my stero amp, I don't get sound. Anybody out there wit
-> this set-up that might have had this problem and solved it. AKA - Cou
-> it be a bad drive, interface card, Ecte, or am I just hooking it up
-> wrong. Thanks in advance for any help! :)
Check you set blaster line in the autoexec.bat file. A lot of people
dont realize the audio volumn is controlled there for the sound blaster
card. Also, If you are using the patch cord that came with your sound
blaster, make sure the little audio cable is installed on the back of
the cd-rom drive and the interface card.
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From: BENNY FOSTER Number: 3301
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/18/93 9:36a
Subj: FOR SALE-CD ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I have other discs for sale also. If you leave me your name
-> and mailing address I can send you a list.
Do you have ones and twos or larger quanities?
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From: BENNY FOSTER Number: 3302
To: MARK ROUND Date: 09/18/93 9:40a
Subj: WANTED ON CD : D.O.T.T. & Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Does anybody have D.O.T.T. (DAY OF THE TENTACLE) for sale on CD?
We have Day Of The Tentacle 2 on CD and it throws in version 1 on the cd
as a bonus. The price is 39.99 and you can reach us at S.E.C. Custom
Computers, 502-448-9397.
Also, the rug you are talking about is a map of the maze downstairs.
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From: BENNY FOSTER Number: 3303
To: PADDY DRURY Date: 09/18/93 9:43a
Subj: Re: Kodak Photo CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> What you need is someone to take in the film and give back the cdrom
Try WalMart. They are offering the Kodak photo CD as well as the regular
drop off film choices. Also, have you tried Tempra access software? Its
MUCH better that Kodaks version because it allows you to save the new
created images on your harddrive in all the formats but also lets you
reload the newly saved images where kodak does not.
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From: BENNY FOSTER Number: 3304
To: BRIAN RYCHLICKI Date: 09/18/93 10:04a
Subj: Panasonic cd562-b / sbpro Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
It COULD be your motherboard. I have had SEVERAL 386DX40 computers that
have had problems accessing CD-Roms. Not just the Panasonic, but Sony,
NEC, Mitsumi, and others. It has to do with the AMD 386DX40 and the
chipset on the motherboard. Every time I have had problems, I have
changed the chipset on the motherboard to OPTI and no problems. BTW, the
most problems were noticed with the Forex chipset.
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From: BENNY FOSTER Number: 3305
To: ALL Date: 09/18/93 10:09a
Subj: CD-Rom Drives Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Anyone know of good sorces for the Panasonic CD-Rom drives (CR-562)? I
am looking for aprox 10-20 at a time. I am also always looking for new
and good sorces for CD-Rom disks. Any help would be appreciated.
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From: MARK WALKER Number: 3306
To: LEE NOGA Date: 09/18/93 6:20a
Subj: Busty Babes Vol II-New Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of <14 Sep 93 13:11:00>, Lee Noga (1:3618/23) writes:
>Before you try to ride me out of dodge, Bob said I could mention that the
>new, "Busty Babes Vol II" will be ready for dealers to ship around 1st
>week of October--This new never before seen disc, is alot tamer consists
>of 1,000 original images, 200 MB shareware, 200 text stories as added
>bonus--All california models-- ***** BBS READY ***** --, Consists of
>swimsuit, topless, bottomless, girls with girls, wet t-shirts, teasers,
>full frontal nudity, waist-up shots--Very few "XXX" ones, but there are a
>few...
Sounds good to me..
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From: MARK WALKER Number: 3307
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/18/93 6:28a
Subj: SONY 535 SPEEDUP Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of <10 Sep 93 15:35:00>, Brice Fleckenstein (1:231/190) writes:
>Unless somethng happened VERY recently, both Adaptec and Trantor are
>independent companies.
About a month or so ago Adaptec bought Trantor.
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 3308
To: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Date: 08/30/93 8:30a
Subj: Re: CDROM forsale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GMJ>Sorry to barge in, but that Pan. 562B seems EXACTLY the
GMJ>same as a NEC I saw advertised some time ago, price
GMJ>included. Is it the same? Could you PLEASE,
GMJ>PLEEEEEEAAASSSEE tell me all there is to know about that
GMJ>specific drive and how it goes with a Sound Blaster Pro?
If you have SB Pro and want to hook direct with CDROM. You have to buy
the Panasonic.
The 562B is new model just come out. It is very popular because it has
double transfer rate and Kodak + Multisession compatible.
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 3309
To: NICK FUNK Date: 08/30/93 8:30a
Subj: Panasonic 562 & Pro Stud Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NF>Does anyone know if the new ProAudio Studio 16 by MediaVision SCSI port
NF>will work with the Panasonic CR-562 double speed drive. An if so are
The Pana is not SCSI therefore will not direct hook up with PAS 16
however the Pana 562 does come with its controller, it will work with
PAS 16 via audio hook up.
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 3310
To: SETH KLINE Date: 08/30/93 8:30a
Subj: Cd-Rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SK>Does anyone have a CD-ROM for sale? I would like it cheap
CD-ROM Mitsumi CRMC LU-005S w/contlr 630MB, 350ms, Kodak comp. $179.
CD-ROM Sony 31A with controller ...............................$229.
CD-ROM Panasonic 522B for SB Pro 380ms w/caddy.................$195.
CD-ROM Panasonic 562B 320ms w/contlr caddyless 300k/s 64kcache.$279.
CD-ROM MicroSolution Parallel port 350ms 128k cache caddyless..$369.*
CD-ROM Texel DM-3024 SCSI, 265ms, 300k/sec transfer, 64k cache $399.
CD-ROM Toshiba MX3401b SCSI drive,Kodak comp.200ms, 256k cache $439.*
Creative Lab Discovery 8. CD-ROM + SB Pro + 3 CDs + Speakers...$399.*
Creative Lab Discovery 16. CD-ROM+ SB 16 + 3 CDs + Speakers...$459.*
Call 310-602-2076 8AM-12PM, 6PM-9PM PST or mail order payable to: TRUC
16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723. Accept money order, COD $5extra
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 3311
To: SETH KLINE Date: 08/30/93 8:30a
Subj: CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SK>How much do good game CD's cost? Like some good Sierra
SK>games like SP4, PQ4 etc? Please get back to me.
TRUC 16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723 fax 310-402-7240
Call 310-602-2076 8am-12pm, 6pm-9pm PST ask Wee Yung.
King's Quest V..................$19* Kodak Photo access..............$19*
Sitmel 20....Sharewares.........$19* Stellar 7 game..................$19*
Space Quest IV game by Sierra...$25 Space Adventure.................$39
US Atlas & AutoMap..............$29 Vital Signs MPC/ Mac only.......$89
Whale of Tale...................$89 Who Killed Sam Rupert?..........$39*
World View......................$19* World Atlas V. 3.2 MPC..........$19*
Willy Beamish - The adventure...$25 Wizard game Dos/Mac.............$19*
Wing Commander/ Secret Mission..$29 Wing Commander & Ult VI.........$35
Add $3 for shipping and handling. No exchange for difference titles.
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From: DAVID RICE Number: 3312
To: GRANT BEATTIE Date: 09/10/93 10:36p
Subj: CD with only gifs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Grant!
01 Sep 93, Grant Beattie writes to Eric Ho:
GB> Hi Eric:
GB> I'm intested in getting a shareware CD that can be used with REMOTE ACCESS
GB> easily (without modification). do you know of any ones that have an
GB> emphasis on GIF files or completely filled with GIF's? That'd be great.
I am also interesed in one full of GIFs. What is the with the best quality
images. It must contain only G-Rated images. I do not need BBS compatability.
David
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From: NEIL BERGMAN Number: 3313
To: MICHAEL MULCAHY Date: 09/11/93 8:43a
Subj: FAMOUS PLACES CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I am looking for a MAC CDROM entitled "Famous Places" by Jasmine Mult
-> Publishing. Request pricing and shipping info..tks...m2
I have this disc, it retails for $99.95. I'll sell it to you for
$75.00 plus $4.00 S&H.
Neil Bergman
1206 S. Holt Ave. #1
Los Angeles, Ca 90035
Phone: (310) 652-2858
Fax: (310) 652-2608
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 3314
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/18/93 9:29a
Subj: Contests Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
-=> Quoting Bob Hall to Lee Noga <=-
BH> I still want tickets (front row seats) to the great pissing contest.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Puts a whole new slant on Tony the Tiger, doesn't it?
BH> BOB
BH> :-)<--== wearing a tie today.
^^^^^^^^
I once saw (and have since forgotten - dammit) a file description that
claimed 100's of "smiley face" characters. You don't happen to know
about it, do you?
... On the subject of SEX: I'm in favor of it.
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 3315
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/18/93 9:32a
Subj: Your Tagline Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Brice Fleckenstein to Edward Tushar <=-
BF> * SLMR 2.1a * I love my country. I FEAR my government....
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Me, Too. But I'm workin' on it! Shouldn't (no, DOESN'T) have to be this
way!
... Blue-shifted: The way to travel ...
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From: LANGSTON GOLDFINCH Number: 3316
To: ALL Date: 09/18/93 11:10p
Subj: Pro-Phone V2.2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello All!
latest (mid '93) 7 disk setof phone numbers for entire country completely
indexed. Will trade for shareware or what?
Regards
Langston
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From: JOHN MCCOMAS Number: 3317
To: ALL Date: 09/18/93 12:12p
Subj: Quote SB 16 ASP & CR562-B Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I would appreciate it if someone could tell me a
source for the best package price less than $450
Sound Blaster 16 ASP
&
Panasonic CR562-B
Thanks!
Olathe, Kansas
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 3318
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/18/93 2:29p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM INTERFACES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BF> > BF> A 1542C (current Adaptec closest equivilent to the
BF> > BF> IN-2000) runs almost half
BF> > BF> again of typical IN-2000 pricing.
BF> > I got my 1742 for $300.
BF> I've never seen an IN-2000 as HIGH as $200 - typically
BF> under $180, and I paid
BF> $145 and $125 for MY pair of them.
Those are ISA boards, not EISA. I believe that a 1542C can be had for
$150 or a bit less.
BF> > The Adaptec drivers will make use of the
BF> busmastering abilities of the
BF> >controller, even under DOS.
BF> Mabey on an EISA bus, but apparently NOT under an ISA bus
BF> - and given that DOS
BF> has NO support for busmastering, I doubt that you are REALLY getting any
BF> benifit out of it under EISA.
Have you TRIED real world applications, especially multiple I/O
intensive applications? The performance increase can be more than significant.
Simple hard drive performance tests won't show the increase in performance:
you need to be processing multiple threads. DOS' ability to do this is FAR
from great, because DOS is not an Operating System, but it can and does manage
to perform standard calculations while the busmastering controller is working
in the background. OS/2 can handle a dozen simultaneous processes with no
apparent slowdown whatsoever.
BF> > BF> >but many of us know better than to stick with DOS.
BF> > BF> I have no choice, as my primary application for this
BF> machine doesn't have
BF> > BF> anything resembling an equal under any other OS.
BF> > The odds are extremely high that the application
BF> will run very well
BF> >indeed, quite possibly much better than under DOS,
BF> directly under an OS/2 VDM.
BF> It has been SHOWN to run not NEARLY as well under OS/2,
BF> due to the greater OS/2
BF> overhead if for no OTHER reason(s). TBBS doesn't like running under a
BF> multitasker at ALL, though it WILL do so - but the performance hit is
BF> SUBSTANTIAL....
This is just false. In the first place, OS/2's overhead is not that
significant, especially when one is speaking of a serial I/O program plodding
along at one interrupt every 160,000 cycles or so. OF course when one
considers that DOS does not even HAVE support for the serial ports, one wonders
why one would ever use DOS in the first place. I have *EIGHT* serial ports,
all of them just plain, old dumb serial ports with 16550 UARTs, and I can
transfer at 57,600bps full bore in eight different DOS sessions without a
hiccup. I don't recall any specific posts from TBBS users, but every
imaginable serial port utility under DOS is in use under OS/2, with little or
no degradation whatsoever.
OS/2 is not a multitasker, it is an Operating System. DOS is just a
kludge of a disk interface utility. With no measurable loss in performance, I
FREQUENTLY am writing messages, while in the background my mailer is
up/downloading at 1700CPS, concurrently with a backup tape drive doing a full
backup of my hard drive, music playing from my CD-ROM, and three printers
running full blast, printing from three separate applications, the applications
themselves often having finished their work and been shut down some time ago.
I can even start a floppy format while all that is going on, and run two or
three other serial port applications at full bore, without losing single bit,
or slowing down the transfer at all. I can even have an Ultimotion Video
running on screen from my CD-ROM while all that is going on, although I don't
recommend trying that with an ISA 386.
Les
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 3319
To: RON FINDLING Date: 09/18/93 2:58p
Subj: Re: OS/2 CD-ROM support Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RF> > RF> comparision you made is overdone.
RF> > Not at all.
RF> (Lots of other similar stuff deleted)
RF> I'd LOVE to have answered all this stuff (I even took on a Microsoft
RF> employee once on this kind of thing, so I'll take anyone on), but it
RF> was getting way too off topic.
I agree. I'd love to continue over on OS2HW, if you like.
RF> Unfortunately, most of the stuff I *can't* reply to I disagree with you
RF> on, and most of the stuff I *can* reply to I agree with you on! :)
Life's variety is one of its greatest riches. Your contrary opinions
are valuable to me, even if only as a yardstick to my own.
RF> > True, however, if one stays with SCSI, one not only
RF> >gains the performance benefits of SCSI, one also has few
RF> >problems under OS/2.
RF> If one has it in the first place, then they can stay with it, the
RF> obvious best choice. But moving to it in the first place is not cheap,
RF> which, like the RAM prices, is probably one of the reasons many people
RF> are still staying away from OS/2. Hopefully in the future prices will
RF> continually go down here, as well.
True. When I say "stay", I mean of course, "stay away from non-SCSI
devices". It is *VERY* expensive to dump what one already has and upgrade to
SCSI. Buying SCSI initially is not as large a hit, especially when one does
not have to buy an additional hard drive controller.
RF> It is a given, though - you want to use a CD-ROM drive under OS/2, go
RF> SCSI if at all possible.
It has many benefits, even under DOS, and if one upgrades to OS/2, the
path is all that much smoother. In addition, there are many devices that
really only come in SCSI, like full page scanners. One of the nicest things is
that potential conflicts between tape backups, CD-ROM drives, hard drives,
scanners, and other devices are essentially eliminated.
Les
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From: ED DUCHEK Number: 3320
To: STEWART ROTHMAN Date: 09/18/93 6:17p
Subj: XXX CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Stewart,
Answering a msg of <15 Sep 93>, from Stewart Rothman to All:
Maybee I can answer a little. A pic today is usually 640x480x256colors.
While its certainly not picture quality, its still pretty good. And when you
take for granted that people want the pics, the CD Rom is the cheapest way to
go. It saves time, and space, and even discs.. and its always available.
I cannot even back up a CD for the price I can buy some with my tape backup.
Hope this helps you.
Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069
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From: TONY SIMMONS Number: 3321
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/17/93 9:08p
Subj: Re: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Adrian Salas to All <=-
AS> ***************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION ****************
AS> If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave
AS> your mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
AS> Thank you
AS> Adrian Salas
AS> * QMPro 1.50 00-0000 * ROM CONNECTION CD-SALES 619-479-8688 10am-7pm
AS> PST
AS> -!- WM v3.00/91-0098
AS> ! Origin: Order CD-ROMs On-Line, UNI-ROM BBS 619.279.4774
AS> (1:202/920.0)
Hi Adrian...
I would like to recive your catalog..send it to the adress below..
thanks
Tony Simmons
520b 21 Ave Nw
Calgary,Alberta,Canada
T2M 1J7
... Catch the Blue Wave!
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From: TONY SIMMONS Number: 3322
To: TODD OSTRER Date: 09/17/93 9:14p
Subj: Re: cd's for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Todd Ostrer to All <=-
TO> Hello: Our new Catalog. WE Ship World Wide Express Mail..
TO> DEALER CD-ROMs
TO> 09-14-93 ** MINIMUM ORDER IS 5 CD-ROMs (can mix). (Good Volume
Hi Todd...
Mail me a catalog please..Thanks
Tony Simmons
510-B 21 ave nw
Calgary,Alberta
t2m 1j7
... Mary had a little RAM -- only about a MEG or so.
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From: JOE HOWES Number: 3323
To: ALL Date: 09/18/93 11:50a
Subj: CD Speedway Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone out there use this caching program? I'm wondering if anyone
has found the optimal settings for it under Day of the Tentacle and Space
Adventure. I set it up for the Seventh Guest yesterday, but the video got so
far ahead of the sound that the system would freeze from time to time until
everything was caught up!! However, DOTT still pauses too long when sounds are
being loaded and space adventure is just kind of slow.
Thanks!
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From: ED YEE Number: 3324
To: STEVEN BALDASSARRA Date: 09/18/93 3:50p
Subj: Mitsumi CD ROM Unit Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SB> Would like to know is Mitsumi LU-005S a multi-session or multi-session
SB> unit?
Whah?????
I would help if I knew what you were trying to say.
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From: BYRON WELLS Number: 3325
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/18/93 7:04a
Subj: Re: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Great!
Byron Wells
P.O. Box 540372
Grand Prairie, Tx. 75054-0372
Byron...
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From: CRAIG GAGNER Number: 3326
To: ALL Date: 09/18/93 6:57a
Subj: Mitsumi Problems Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am a Tech at a local Computer Store, and we have run into a problem
with the Mitsumi Drives.
The Mitsumi Drives with a manufacture date of June 93 will not work in
a 486 system !! They just Crap out !! We have tried 4 different
motherboards ranging from ISA to Local Bus. The same drive will work in
a 386 no problem.
Does anyone know what might have happened ?? I suspect they changed
there firm wear with an upgrade which has caused this problem..
Craig Gagner
Senior Tech
Grace Computers
(912) 356-1840
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From: JANUSZ SUROWKA Number: 3327
To: ADAM EDWARDS Date: 09/17/93 2:58p
Subj: 7Th Guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
yeah so....??? i wasnt talking about that
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From: JANUSZ SUROWKA Number: 3328
To: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Date: 09/17/93 2:59p
Subj: DOS 6.0 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
yeah your right... that would be good multitasking version of DOS
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From: JOHN CALLICRATE Number: 3329
To: CHRIS WOOD Date: 09/13/93 2:36a
Subj: Adaptec and CDR-501 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have EZ-SCSI software (original), ver 1.0, for sale. $50.00
Call me at 503/623-4924 in evenings (Pacific time).
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From: JURRIE HOBERS Number: 3330
To: ALL Date: 09/17/93 7:11p
Subj: Dutch cd-rommers.... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello!
I am looking for Dutch cd-rom people who are also interested in
buyind cd-roms....!!!
If you are, call me: 05910-44828 (Only for people in The
Netherlands)
Alleen voor de Nederlanders dus!
GreetinX!
Jurrie!
... Why look at the DOCS if there are nurses........?
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From: DAVID RICE Number: 3331
To: ALL Date: 09/17/93 1:31p
Subj: GIFs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello All!
Does anyone know where I can get the "GIFs Galore" CD. I have been looking
everwhere localy and no one has it. Please give me pricing on it too if you
can. Thanks in advance.
David
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From: LEANDRO BRAZ Number: 3332
To: ALL Date: 09/14/93 2:40p
Subj: CDs para Medicina Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Alguem conhece alguma boa Enciclopedia Medica em CD-ROM? Estou interessado em
adquirir uma, mas conheco apenas a Med-Line. O investimento e alto e quero
comprar a melhor que puder.
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From: RODOLFO VAZ Number: 3333
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/17/93 9:58a
Subj: DR. CD Collection Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BO> nor offer any price comparisions. It will strickly be so our friends in
BO> Canada will be able to place an order without any international long
BO> distance costs.
OH God ... We (Brazilians) don't have this benefit :(((
Hi Boris,
did you get my NETMAIL ? Well, I've got your NETMAILs (both),
but I was on a trip (working in Sao Paulo), so I just sent the reply two
days later ... O.K. ? I'm waiting for the CDs ...
Oh, if possible, send a complete catalog with the CDs, O.K. ?
BO> Boris Osadciw
Thanks for your VERY VERY VERY fast reply !
Rodolfo Vaz
NC806
... Brazil mail in U.S.A. ! From Brasilia, Capital of Brazil !
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From: MARCILIO BARBOSA Number: 3334
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/14/93 10:54p
Subj: CD-ROM SALE! Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
MS> | Starvector Sales Bulletin #4: CD-ROM LIQUIDATION! |
>Gigabyte Gold.......$19 Powerpak Gold 3.0...$15 House of Games......$20
>Compton's Interact..$95 US Wars: Korea......$29 US Wars: Des. Storm.$29
>Original S/W 1993...$10 Phoenix 3.0.........$12 Jedi Collection.....$39
>Lion's Share........$19 Clipart Galore......$25 Reel Clips..........$35
>Windoware...........$10 Fantazia Fonts/Snds.$22 Ham Radio 3.0.......$10
>Return to the Moon..$26 Find-It Webster.....$38 Great Wonders.......$32
MS> STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
> VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
>---
I would like to get some CD-ROM. How to do?
I live in Brazil.
Thanks.
Marcilio Barbosa
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From: MARCILIO BARBOSA Number: 3335
To: SAM BECKWITH Date: 09/14/93 11:05p
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SB>DFW Discount Electronics 09/11/93 Orders: 800-829-0331
> Local : 214-254-0331
>CD-ROM Price List BBS : 214-259-4188
SB> * = Indicates file listing available for download via our BBS
SB>Shareware
>~~~~~~~~~
>* CLIPART GOLIATH (4/93 by Chestnut): Over 11,000 PCX, TIF, $15.00
> and many other formats. For most desktop publishing
> programs.
SB>Clip Art
>~~~~~~~~
> GIFs GALORE: Over 5,000 full color GIFs and viewers for $19.00
> MS-DOS, Macintosh, Amiga and Unix.
SB> LOOM: LucasArts' truly unique fantasy graphic adventure, $29.00
> You play the role of a young weaver in the Age of the
> Great Guilds.
I'm interested in these CD-ROM above. Would charge my VISA card? I live
in Brazil.
Thanks,
Marcilio Barbosa
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From: DOMINIQUE PERRON Number: 3336
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/18/93 6:35p
Subj: DISCOUNT CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NEIL BERGMAN wrote in a message to ALL:
NB> SHORELINE CD-ROM'S DISCOUT PRICES
Could you send me a complete list please
DomTech
P.B. #76012
Aylmer, PQ Canada
J9H 4P1
Thx.
Cheers
Dom
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From: DOMINIQUE PERRON Number: 3337
To: ADIAN SALAS Date: 09/18/93 6:37p
Subj: Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Adian!
Can you send a Catalog to:
DomTech
P.B. #76012
Aylmer, PQ, Canada
J9H 4P1
THx
Cheers
Dom
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3338
To: SCOTT DAVIS Date: 09/16/93 3:24p
Subj: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>BF>Have you bothered asking Bob WHY he has suddenly outlawed "Adult" CD-ROMs
>BF>from this echo?
>No.. but I am curious.. WHY?!?
It appears to have a LOT (everything) to do with the fact that Bob is a
"neighbor" of Tony Davis's....
* SLMR 2.1a * "CATS. CATS ARE NICE." - Death, "Sourcery"
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3339
To: RUSSELL BOYCE Date: 09/16/93 4:01p
Subj: MITSUMI CD ROM DRIVE; SOU Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>The sound galaxy NX pro plus card has two proprietary AT interfaces for both
>Panasonic and Mitsumi drives
Will it run both of those drives at once?
* SLMR 2.1a * Is my Cat missing? Check your bumper and tires....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3340
To: TONY STOTT Date: 09/16/93 4:41p
Subj: YOUR TAGLINE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>humorous part is that us folks in Australia don't even remember who Clinton
>beat...
George Bush and H. Ross Perot and Andre Morreu were the other "in all 50
states" candidates (Republican, "independent", and Libertarian parties
respectively).
* SLMR 2.1a * Clinton didn't WIN in 92 - he just LOST by the least....
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From: PAM NOVAK Number: 3341
To: ALL Date: 08/31/93 9:15p
Subj: LUPAS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Lupas foundation of america, 1-800-558-0121;24hours to request imformation
packet) ; 301-670-9292; 9am to 5pm,weekdays except hollidays (to speak to a
staff member).
Health education speacialists about this chronic inflammatory disease and offer
imformation about your local lupas foundation chapter,which can provide you
with rferals to physicians. Hope this helps.
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From: PAM NOVAK Number: 3342
To: GAIL HITSON Date: 08/31/93 9:27p
Subj: Finacial help Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
When I first lost my job due to illnes I went to the social workers office at a
local hospital and they told me a lot of ways to get help. Plus most county
hospitals can not turn you down just because you can not afford insurance .It
is not easy but,tell them your situation and request a financial forebearance
form a lot of bills I had ran up have been written off because I filled out
these forms .I wish with all my heart I could pay them all back someday but,I
also know that If you are ill you are the most important person you have and
you have to find a way to get better. Hang in there I am and hoping things get
better soon.
sincerely Pam
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From: PAM NOVAK Number: 3343
To: MARVIN Date: 08/31/93 9:35p
Subj: Low blood sugar Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
THe best way to fight low blood sugar is to eat 6 to 8 small meals a day. Make
sure especially for breakfast you eat a small amount of protien even a
tablespoon of peanut butter will help. I used to try to eat a candybar as a
quick fix but , the doctors and registered dieticians sat me down and told me
that doesn't do a lot of good the energy from simple sugar is used up to fast
plus it increases your inslin level. they told me I should concentrate on
eating high carbohydrate foods like baked potatoes , bread and popcorn instead
of the quick candy bar or real orange juice and I have noticed a big
difference.
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From: PAM NOVAK Number: 3344
To: GAIL HITSON Date: 08/31/93 10:09p
Subj: Neurological disorders Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
National Institute of Nurological Disorders and Stroke,1-800-352-9424; 8:30
a.m.to 5p.m.weekdays except hollidays.call for imformation on neurological
disorders like stroke, epilepsy Parkinson's disease,Lymes,and spinal cord
injuries. Gives referals to support groups.and other orginizations.
If you are wanting lots of imformation on lymes disease request was what is
called a "a silver platter search '' Ithink that is what it si called its been
a while since I have had them do a search on everything that is available for
the subject .I hope this helps.
Heart disease
Arizona Heart Institute& Foundation's heartline;1-800-345-hart;11:00a.m.to
8p.m.weekdays except hollidays
Cardiovascular nurse specialists answer questions and send you imformation
about heart diseas and related conditions.
As lymes can effect your heart.
American Heart association 1-800-AHA-USA-1
9a.m to 5p.m. all time Zones. For answers to heart disease questions.and acess
to your local heart chapters.
Hope this helps
Pam
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From: CHRIS DONNEGAN Number: 3345
To: KEVIN SULLIVAN Date: 09/18/93 12:02p
Subj: EDO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
KS> * Origin: Tokyo PC Club BBS +81 (3) (6:730/16.0)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Where are you located, Kevin? I did time in Takanawa and a couple of
years on Nihonkai - in Toyama. What do you do?
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From: TIM PEETERS Number: 3346
To: JON DERAGON Date: 09/18/93 8:59a
Subj: Sound cards and cd-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Jon!
Tuesday September 14 1993 23:09, Jon Deragon wrote to Tim Wenas:
JD> rave reviews for both the ProStudioSpectrum and the SB16asp its really
JD> hard to say, I think compatibility wise for SB software you woulf d go for
JD> just that. Although I have only had minor problems with my PAS. There is a
JD> PAS kit you may be interested in most definately, which includes a PAS
JD> card, the NEC CDR-84-I I was talking about, and some hot CD-ROMS INCLUDING
JD> 7th GUEST, (DING DING!!!), so you may want to try that one, I know you can
JD> get it through MicroArts Melbourne.
Anyone have incompatiability problems with QEMM/DESQview and the SoundBlaster
SB16 card?
BeSeeingYa,
Tim
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From: RICK POTTS Number: 3347
To: ALL Date: 09/18/93 8:57p
Subj: Thunder board and toshiba Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I've seen various messages here talking about ways to run sound from
CD-ROM's to various sound baords, but I haven't seen anyone talk
specifically about using a Thunder Board with a CD-ROM. I'd like to buy
a CD-ROM (and I'm leaning strongly toward the Toshiba 3401b), but I
really don't want to buy another sound board if I can make it work with
my existing Thunder Board. Can it be done? Or do I have to pull the
Thunder Board and put in something else (like the PAS 16) to make it
work?
Thanks in advance....
Rick
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From: WILLIAM T. MCCLAIN Number: 3348
To: BERT BURLAND Date: 09/19/93 2:22a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi CD Rom Drive Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BB> when jumping from widely spaced directories. The Mitsumi works just
BB> fine on smaller disc around 450 Megs but goes out to lunch on the
BB> large ones. Look around for a better drive if Your going to be
BB> accessing big disc and more so for a BBS with big old bbs ready
BB> shareware disc loaded.
BB> The Dealers will tell You otherwise because they are selling them
BB> right and left. I run a BBS and have gone through it Bubba.
Hey, Bert. Thanks a lot for the very detailed information. I was asking
this for a friend and am sure he will appreciate it very much. Hope I
can help you in some way some day.
... See ya later. -Mac-
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 3349
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/18/93 11:56p
Subj: COVER CD 'PC MAG' Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BF>it's a royal PAIN to get a disc into a "Sony-style" caddy without
BF>scratching it!
Not if you have an opposable thumb. 8)
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 3350
To: ROB LIBRIZZI Date: 09/18/93 11:56p
Subj: SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RL>Hey Mike what are the specials this week for us NON BBS Sysops. I mean
CD's
Well Rob, here are a few we have on sale right now:
Gigabyte Gold.......$19 Powerpak Gold 3.0...$15 Phoenix 4.0.........$22
Compton's Interact..$95 US Wars: Korea......$29 US Wars: Des. Storm.$29
Original S/W 1993...$10 Phoenix 3.0.........$12 Jedi Collection.....$39
Lion's Share........$19 Clipart Galore......$25 Reel Clips..........$35
Windoware...........$10 Fantazia Fonts/Snds.$22 Ham Radio 3.0.......$10
Return to the Moon..$26 Find-It Webster.....$38 Great Wonders.......$32
Gimme a call if you're interested in any of them: 509-457-2892. .\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 3351
To: GUY R. LANNEWEHR Date: 09/18/93 11:56p
Subj: National telephone direct Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GRL>I'm looking for anyone who has any of the advertised national residential
GRL>telephone directory on CD. I believe they come in a set of 3 or so. I see
GRL>that DAK is advertising their set for $149. What other companies is
selling
GRL>this type of disk(s) and what is their price?
Guy,
We have two in stock: ProPhone 1993 (7 CD's) at $99, and PhoneDisc USA
1993, which is $69. ProPhone covers the entire white and yellow pages,
while PhoneDisc is only residential, although there is a separate business
edition available at the same price.
If you'd like to discuss these further, please don't hesitate to call!
Later,
.\\ike
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 3352
To: ALL Date: 09/18/93 11:56p
Subj: TOP 5 NEW CD-ROM TITLES! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
| Starvector Sales Bulletin #2: TOP 5 NEW CD TITLES |
SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD * Totally new shareware w/ no dupes to Vault 2!....$25
>FIREARMS REFERENCE * Details on 600+ guns w/ 256-color images..........$30
PHOENIX 4.0 * Finally - An update to 3! Very clean CD with fresh files.$22
SHAREWARE EXPLORER * New shareware 4-pak w/ less than 1% dupes!........$54
SHAREWARE ONLINE #2 * Brand new w/ pure 1993 files! The NEWEST s/w CD!.$35
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)
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From: KEVIN KENISTON Number: 3353
To: ALL Date: 09/18/93 9:52a
Subj: Wanted: External kit for Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm trying to convert my internal CD drive (NEC CDR-84) to an external
unit. NEC makes the cases, but evidently does not sell them separately.
Anyone knowing of some who has converted their external unit to internal
and wants to get rid of the case, or anyone knowing of someplace to get
some sort of external kit, please call me at:
Kevin Keniston
(619) 672-8851
The case does not have to be from NEC, but must be guaranteed to take an
NEC CDR-84.
Thanx in advance
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From: KEVIN KENISTON Number: 3354
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/18/93 9:55a
Subj: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Yes, I would like to receive your catalog by return mail ....(sounds
like a commercial, eh?)
Kevin Keniston
11341-G Avenida de los Lobos
San Diego, CA 92127
Thanks
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From: DONNIE RAYNOR Number: 3355
To: PAT RICKERSON Date: 09/19/93 1:21p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi CD-Rom drive for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Pat Rickerson to Donnie Raynor <=-
PR> I will offer $160, I know I just offered $150, but I thought $160
PR> would be a better offer 512-939-9822 any time!
PR> Pat
PR> -!- GoldED 2.40
PR> ! Origin: Thin Ice BBS * Corpus Christi, Texas (1:160/9)
Pat, I have considered your offer and here is what I am willing to do.
It will probably cost close to 10 bucks to ship to Texas. I'll eat that
but, I will have to get $165 for the drive. If you are interested drop
me a line so I can be looking for your money order.
... Sorry, the Dog ate my Blue Wave packet.
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From: RON HAYS Number: 3356
To: ALL Date: 09/18/93 1:08a
Subj: CD Librarian Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone have any good suggestions for a good, easy to use cd librarian to
keep track of what's on which cd, check for dupe's. etc. A couple of cd's I
have have such lousy programs on them, that I ended up using List, or
CD Menu from the Powerpack gold CD, but still don't have what I want. Thanks
Ron Hays
... A clean desk is a sign of a cluttered desk drawer.
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 3357
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 09/17/93 4:48a
Subj: Re: DR. CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Bob!,
-> Do your users log on to the tune of "The Wild Blue Yonder"?? Would se
-> a natural!
No, could you expound on this? Do you mean like an ANSI tune? That would
be great! Didn't know such a thing was possible.
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 3358
To: ROGER SMITH Date: 09/18/93 10:40p
Subj: CD-ROM vs. disk versions Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Roger!,
-> And about that time cheap CDROM recorders hit the market and the pira
-> a field day. :-}
->
-> I'm kind of afraid of the price of recordable CDROM drives and media
-> down since companies will be afraid to put alot of data on CDROMs if
-> can be copied easily and inexpensively.
Then we'll be back to the copy protection again..... What a pain!
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From: GARY MEADOR Number: 3359
To: ALL Date: 09/18/93 5:51p
Subj: PRICES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking to possibly a cd-rom drive for my 286 based processor. What would
be the best for this processor and how much will it cost me. I am looking for a
cd that is not very expensive. It can either be internal or external. Thanks
from Gary Meador.
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 3360
To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 09/19/93 11:12a
Subj: CD players Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Terry!
I need help I bought 2 CD player's from someone maybe you. Any way I payed $99
for cd Player and $60 for controller and LOVE IT! Ned to try and locate some
more!!!!!! If you know who it was please reply got them about a month or so ago
thank's for any help!! 512-939-9822
Pat
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From: NEIL HARFERT Number: 3361
To: ALL Date: 09/19/93 2:33a
Subj: GATEWAY 2000 CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi y'all. I'm looking at a new Gateway 2000 486, and am debating a CD-ROM.
The problem is, I don't know anything about CD-ROM drives -- what to look for,
which ones are good, etc. If someone could fill me in on the basics I'd really
appreciate it!
THANKS!
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From: NEIL HARFERT Number: 3362
To: BRIAN CUKRNOW Date: 09/19/93 2:56a
Subj: Re: 7TH GUEST Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Brian-
I'm about to purchase a 486/50v system and will probably get a CD-ROM with the
deal. I'm into entertainment programs, and would like a little info on 7th
Guest. All I know right now is that it utilizes a 16-bit sound-card! Please
give me a description of the game so that I can decide whether or not to order
it. Is $55 a good price?, or can I find it cheaper elsewhere. THX!
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From: SAM BECKWITH Number: 3363
To: ALL Date: 09/19/93 11:33a
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DFW Discount Electronics 09/1993 Orders: 800-829-0331
Local : 214-254-0331
CD-ROM Price List BBS : 214-259-4188
* = Indicates file listing available for download via our BBS
CD-ROM Drive
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mitsumi Int. CD-ROM 350ms Kit w/adapter (non-SCSI) 193.00
Shareware
~~~~~~~~~
* CLIPART GOLIATH (4/93 by Chestnut): Over 11,000 PCX, TIF, $15.00
and many other formats. For most desktop publishing
programs.
* DR. GAMES (6/93, BBS Ready, by Aces Research, Inc.): $19.00
Adventure, Arcade, Card Games, Chess, Flights, Puzzles,
Simulators, Sports, Strategy, Tetris, Wars, Windows
Games, and much more.
* GAMES 1993 (4/93, BBS Ready, by Chicago Computer Broker): $19.00
Over 6,000 files including Apogee games, unprotects,
tips, Tetris clones, lotto, casino, sports, VGA arcade,
Flight Simulators.
* NIGHT OWL 9 (6/93, BBS Ready, by Night Owl Publisher): $27.00
Great disc!
PC SIG 12 (3/93, by PC SIG): Latest in the PC SIG series. $22.00
PC-SIG WORLD of WINDOWS (8/93, by PC SIG): Over 350 $22.00
Windows programs, over 2,000 sounds, over 900 truetype
fonts, over 10,000 icons, files are for use directly from
CD (uncompressed).
PHOENIX 4.0 (8/93) $21.00
* SCI-FI FANTASY (4/93, BBS Ready, by Chicago Computer $25.00
Broker): VGA pics including Star Trek, Star Wars,
Fantasy, D&D, Creatures, Conan & much more.
* SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3 (7/93, BBS Ready, by Power User $25.00
Software): 650MB, VGA Arcade Games, Home & Hobby,
Graphics, Clip Art, Sound Files, Finance, OS/2, Windows,
Fonts & much more.
* SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD COLLECTION (9/93, BBS Ready, by $29.00
American Databankers): Over 6,000 files, over 590MB.
File areas include: top software hits of 1993, Windows
apps and games, business, utils, programming, BBS
programs, and much more.
* SHAREWARE April 1993 (4/93, BBS Ready, by Chicago $19.00
Computer Broker): 5,000 files, games, sounds, Window,
utils, education, finance.
SHAREWARE OVERLOAD: Over 6,100 files, Games, MS Windows, $11.00
Business, Clip Art, Education & much more.
Clip Art
~~~~~~~~
GIFs GALORE: Over 5,000 full color GIFs and viewers for $19.00
MS-DOS, Macintosh, Amiga and Unix.
Game
~~~~
KINGS QUEST V $16.00
KINGS QUEST VI $33.00
LOOM: LucasArts' truly unique fantasy graphic adventure, $22.00
You play the role of a young weaver in the Age of the
Great Guilds.
Reference
~~~~~~~~~
FAMILY DOCTOR: Over 1,500 of frequently asked medical $26.00
questions, approx. 300 color medical illustrations, names
& addresses of support groups/education resources,
complete data on over 1,600 prescription drugs.
Sound
~~~~~
ENCYCLOPEDIA OF SOUND: 211 WAV sound effects files, 13 $14.00
WAV music clip files, 7 full length musical scores, VOC
sound effects, sound players and utils, SoundBlaster and
Adlib compatable.
DFW Discount Electronics - PO Box 177617 - Irving, TX 75017
Prices and availability subject to change without notice
<<< Call us for items not listed >>>
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From: GARY PITTMAN Number: 3364
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/19/93 11:18a
Subj: Catalogs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-16-93, Adrian Salas said to All!
AS>***************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION ****************
AS>
AS>If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave
AS>your mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
I would like one of your catalogs. Please send to:
Gary Pittman
P.O. Box 400
Blue Springs, MO 64014-3907
Thank you.
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From: DARIN CELINO Number: 3365
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 09/20/93 1:17a
Subj: Contests Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
|BJ> I once saw (and have since forgotten - dammit) a file description that |
|BJ> claimed 100's of "smiley face" characters. You don't happen to know |
|BJ> about it, do you? |
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I saw it too.....and didn't D/L it.....If I find it I will put it on
my BBS and let you know. I think it was on MSI or Classified
Connection.
Like your latest reveiw. Keep up the good work.
___
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From: DARIN CELINO Number: 3366
To: SOPH PETROU Date: 09/20/93 1:22a
Subj: Mitsumi CD ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
|SP> Hi All, |
|SP> Does anybody know if 2 Mitsumi cd roms can be daisy |
|SP> chained off a SOUND GALAXY NXPRO? |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Yes I do Know......
No they can't.....but why do you need both hooked up to the sound
board?
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From: DARIN CELINO Number: 3367
To: BENNY FOSTER Date: 09/20/93 1:24a
Subj: Mitsumi CD-ROM Audio Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
|BF> -> connecting the drive to my sound card (a plain Sound Blaster) with |
|BF> |
|BF> Check you set blaster line in the autoexec.bat file. A lot of people |
|BF> dont realize the audio volumn is controlled there for the sound blaster|
|BF> card. Also, If you are using the patch cord that came with your sound |
|BF> blaster, make sure the little audio cable is installed on the back of |
|BF> the cd-rom drive and the interface card. |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
This is not so for the Sound Blaster.....the plain one.....unless
there are some undocumented controls for them.
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 3368
To: ALL Date: 09/19/93 2:01p
Subj: CD-ROM SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SUPER CD 1................ 22.00 SUPER CD 2............... 29.00
SO MUCH SHAREWARE 2....... 30.00 SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3...... 35.00
NIGHTOWL 9................ 32.00 NIGHTOWL 8............... 29.00
SOUNDWAV.................. 26.95 SHAREWARE EXTRAVAGANZA... 55.00
PC-S1G 12................. 41.50 SOFTWARE VAULT........... 28.00
DESKTOP PUBLISHERS DREAM.. 39.50 TIME DESERT STORM........ 29.95
PC MEDIC.................. 32.50 CICA WINDOWS............. 29.00
Shipping is 5.00 up to 3 cds .50 each addition CA add 7.75% SEND
check/money order in US funds payable to ADRIAN SALAS to: SAN DIEGO ROM
CONNECTION 2434 EAST 32ND STREET, NATIONAL CITY CA 91950 USA
* QMPro 1.51 * ROM CONNECTION CD-SALES Voice 619-479-8688 10am-7pm PST
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 3369
To: ALL Date: 09/19/93 2:05p
Subj: CD-ROM SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
****************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION *********************
DR. WINDOWS...............22.00 DR. GAMES................ 22.00
DR. MUSIC................. 22.00 DR. SHAREWARE............ 22.00
SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD....... 35.00
For *ADULT* TITLES CALL or REQUEST CATALOG
Shipping 5.00 up to 3 cds .50 each addition CA add 7.75% SEND
check/money order in US funds payable to ADRIAN SALAS to: SAN DIEGO ROM
CONNECTION 2434 EAST 32ND STREET, NATIONAL CITY CA 91950 USA
* QMPro 1.51 * ROM CONNECTION CD-SALES Voice 619-479-8688 10am-7pm PST
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From: JASON LINCOLN Number: 3370
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/18/93 11:34p
Subj: SONY 535 SPEEDUP Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I've got a Procomm CD-ROM which is Sony 535 compatible and I want to
install it internally so I was wondering if the SOny 535 could be installed
internally.
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From: STEVE WON Number: 3371
To: ALL Date: 09/19/93 8:02p
Subj: SBPro, does it have a limited data transfer? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have heard, (maybe just rumor) that the CD interface on the SB Pro is
limited to a data transfer rate of 150 kb/s. Does anyone know if this
is true or not? I don't have one yet, but I may buy a Panasonic 562B
and if this is true, I may have to get a SB clone type card. If this
data transfer is true, then it would essentially eliminate the
effectiveness of the double spin, 300 kb/s 562B.
Any thoughts are appreciated.
TTYL
... BOSS spelled backwards is Double S-O-B
* TLX v3.00 *
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From: PAUL KNOX Number: 3372
To: ALL Date: 09/19/93 8:23p
Subj: Night Owl's Latest CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for their latest version of shareware cd-rom. I am currentlyusing
version 7.0. I need to know where how and howmuch.
Later
Paul
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From: JOSEPH THOMAS Number: 3373
To: JEFF HUBERT Date: 09/20/93 8:47a
Subj: Os/2 mitsumi driver Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JH> I finally got a os/2 driver for the mitsumi cd-rom drive but it doesn't
JH> support cd-audio ( only a beta version 1.04 beta). I tried the geramn
JH> beta 1.05 but it doesn't work!
Right you are, It has no audio, but the audio-upgrade is
being made available now. None of the BETA version should work.
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From: HEATHER KRAUSE Number: 3374
To: JACK DIEHL Date: 09/19/93 7:03p
Subj: mitsumi Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JD>does any one know if mitsumi has a tech-warranty line i have one that
JD>worked for about 2 weeks then quit it does not appear to be spinnig up
Call their tech support person (singular? I always seem to get the
same guy when I call) in California at 408-970-0700.
- Heather
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From: JAMES DESOTELLE Number: 3375
To: ALL Date: 09/19/93 2:37p
Subj: Chemisty CD Wanted Refer: NONE
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I am searching for a chemistry CD that has all the elements and its
properties, or something simuliar. I am not sure if one exists or not
but if you know any info on this, or where I can get one please let me
know. Reply this net or call at (701)-780-0930. It is very important!
Thanks
James
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From: DAVID CARMICHAEL Number: 3376
To: ALL Date: 09/19/93 8:10a
Subj: External Case For Mitsumi Refer: NONE
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I have one of the older MITSUMI 600ms CD-ROM drives which I want to move from
my system to my wifes system.
_BUT_ her computer does not have any open 5.25" drive bays.
So what I am looking for is 'EITHER' an external case for this CD-ROM drive or
for her 5.25" Floppy drive [Which she _MUST_ keep] hooked up to her system.
I can not move her systems mother board to another case as was suggested to me
a while back.
--David
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 3377
To: BERTRAND SCHMITT Date: 09/17/93 9:17a
Subj: Kit 16ASP Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BS>I'm thinking of buying the Sound Blaster 16ASP Multimedia Upgrade Kit.
BS>Up to now, I was only able to find a 16 without the ASP version.
BS>I read in a magazine "TILT" that the latest kit that Creative Labs made was
BS>with the 16ASP and the Panasonic CDR 652B. Is is able of double speed and an
BS>amazing 600Kb/s with some games ( Yes, it was written black on white ).
I believe it is with 562b and it is 300k/s Multisession compatible.
I sell them but you can make you own bundle by purchase it separate.
Sound Blaster 16 MCD with ASP and Panasonic controller ........$199
Sound Blaster 16 MCD w/ASP and SCSI controller build in........$229
CD-ROM Panasonic SR-562 double spin 300k/s Multisession .......$249
Creative Lab Discovery 16.SR-562 CDROM+SB 16 +2CDs+Speakers....$469
Price does not included shipping
Call 310-602-2076 8am-1pm, 7pm-10pm PST or Fax 310-402-7240 24hours
Mail order payable TRUC
16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723 Accept money order, COD $5extra
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 3378
To: MARC CIRCOSTA Date: 09/17/93 9:17a
Subj: Aus. 562B distributor? Refer: NONE
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MC> Just wondering if I could ask a about the availablity of
MC>the new Panasonic 562B drive that everybody seems to be
Sound Blaster 16 Basic Edition.................................$139
Sound Blaster 16 MCD with ASP and Panasonic controller ........$199
Sound Blaster 16 MCD w/ASP and SCSI controller build in........$229
CD-ROM Panasonic SR-522 for SB Pro sound card..................$189
CD-ROM Panasonic SR-562 double spin 300k/s Multisession .......$249
Creative Lab Discovery 8. SR-562 CDROM+SB Pro+2CDs+Speakers....$389
Creative Lab Discovery 16.SR-562 CDROM+SB 16 +2CDs+Speakers....$469
Price does not included shipping
Call 310-602-2076 8am-1pm, 7pm-10pm PST or Fax 310-402-7240 24hours
Mail order payable TRUC
16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723 Accept money order, COD $5extra
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 3379
To: GABRIEL KLYBER Date: 09/19/93 9:19a
Subj: Sb16&cd-rom Refer: NONE
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GK>I have a SB16 and would like to hook a CD-ROM up to it. I
GK>know it only works with Mitsumi/Panasonic. I've heard of a
GK>new Mitsumi double-spin CD-ROM. Has anyone else heard or
The Pana 562b is new and double spin with Multi session compatible
CD-ROM Mitsumi CRMC LU-005S w/contlr 630MB, 350ms, Kodak comp. $179.
CD-ROM Sony 31A with controller ...............................$229.
CD-ROM Panasonic 522B for SB Pro 380ms w/caddy.................$189.
CD-ROM Panasonic 562B 320ms w/contlr caddyless 300k/s 64kcache.$249.
Magnetic Shieded Multimedia Stereo Speaker system $9
MIDI cable for any sound card with Joystick port...............$19.
Price does not included shipping.
Call 310-602-2076 8AM-12PM, 6PM-9PM PST or mail order payable to: TRUC
16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723. Accept money order, COD $5extra
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From: KURT LARSEN Number: 3380
To: ALL Date: 09/18/93 11:59a
Subj: CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have a SoundBlaster 16 ASP card and I have been told that the only CD-Rom
drive compatable with it is a Panasonic drive. Do you know if this is
true?--or could you tell me how I might find some info on this subject.
Thanks
Kurt
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From: JOHN KELLEY Number: 3381
To: KURT LARSEN Date: 09/18/93 12:11p
Subj: CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Kurt ---
I forwarded your msg to this echo, as I really know nothing about sound cards.
I hope someone on here can answer your question.
John
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From: LOU PETRALIA Number: 3382
To: LEE NOGA Date: 09/18/93 10:13a
Subj: BUSTY BABES VOL II-NE Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Lee Noga to George Porter <=-
LN> Is this a first amendment question?, don't see where the general
LN> description is going to influence any child to be a serial rapist. It's
LN> one thing for them to read about the disc, and its another to view the
LN> disc--Sorry my friend if this is offending, but this is hardly an issue
LN> of obscenity. If the children are realizing that women can be
LN> photographed nude from my post, well then I am glad they learned it
LN> from me--
-=*>Lee<*=-
LN> "Sucessful parent of a son, and 2 grandkids"
LN>
I'm in total agreement with you on this Lee, I have a few adult CD and I'm
the father of two teen age children also. My kids know I have them and
know their not for them and they respect that rule. The image that some
of these anti adult fanatics have of adult cd users must be that they sit
around their computer in rain coats typing with one hand. As for children
reading this echo, well they get more exposure to sex watching tv commericals
the news and current affairs. The moderaitor has chosen to eliminate
discuessions of adult oriented material (which I believe is a bad choice)
but so be it. What's bothering me now is all the WANNABE moderators who
just love to get upset and flame whenever they see a X- or XXX in a message.
So to all you WANNABE'S out there here's your chance to fufill your destiny
in life and make you dreams come true.
XXX- XXX- XXX- XXX- XXX- XXX- XXX- XXX- XXX- XXX- XXX- XXX- XXX- XXX-
XXX- XXX- XXX- XXX- XXX- XXX- XXX- XXX- XXX- XXX- XXX- XXX- XXX- XXX-
Now that all of you have gotten that out of your system lets get
back to basics.
... UnZip...expand...What kind of pervert came up with this?
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From: LOU PETRALIA Number: 3383
To: KEVIN SULLIVAN Date: 09/18/93 12:35p
Subj: SOUND COMBATIBLE Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Kevin Sullivan to Adam Edwards <=-
AE>Seventh Guest has a patch to fix soundcard and video problems and also a
AE>patch to support the GUS directly instead of through SBOS.
KS> Notice if a patch for the PAStudio 16 in native (not SB) mode was
KS> there?
I'm not sure If this fits in but I'm getting great stero sound with
it on my PAS16
... Kill the wabbit! Kill the wabbit! Kill the wabbit!
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From: LOU PETRALIA Number: 3384
To: RICHARD MAYCOCK Date: 09/18/93 12:39p
Subj: YOUR TAGLINE Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Richard Maycock to Dave Reed <=-
DR> We Americans are in the middle of a crisis, here.
RM> America is in a crisis as soon as it feels threatened. Cuba,
RM> Nicauragua, Libya, Drugs, Japan etc. etc.
IMO America has been in crisis since Kenndy was shot. Think about it
2 unelected presidents. A vice president and a President resigning
because of questionable activities. Its not just now, but it's been
going on for over 25 years. Read all about it on a american history
CD
... Rush Limbaugh: A good example of why some animals eat their young.
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From: JOHN BENJAMIN Number: 3385
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/18/93 11:10p
Subj: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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Packet: COZYK
Date: 09-16-93 (14:08) Number: 86
From: ADRIAN SALAS Refer#: NONE
To: ALL Recvd: NO
Subj: CATALOGS Conf: (35) CDROM
AS>***************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION ****************
AS>If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave your
>mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
AS>Thank you
>Adrian Salas
Greetings,
BENJAMIN COMPUTER SERVICES, P.O.Box 17380, West Palm Beach, Fl
33416-7380 would greatly appreciate your catalog(s) of available
CD-ROMS!
John Benjamin
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From: ERIC HSIAO Number: 3386
To: RICHARD MAYCOCK Date: 09/19/93 2:51p
Subj: Re: your tagline Refer: NONE
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Richard,
This guy Dave Reed does not represent how mainstream America feels, so
please don't look down upon our country because of a few bad apples. We have a
term for people like him, "Red Neck". Anyway, enough of debating in this
conference...back to CD-ROMs.
So, anyone know which new CD-ROM games are being released in the near
future? Hopefully, Rebel Assault will make it out by Christmas.
- Eric
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From: ERIC HSIAO Number: 3387
To: KEVIN SULLIVAN Date: 09/19/93 2:52p
Subj: Proaudiostudio + t7guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
The 7th Guest in PAS-16 mode needs DMA 3. 7th Guest doesn't support higher
order 16-bit DMA channels.
- Eric
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From: CATALINO ALVAREZ Number: 3388
To: ALL Date: 09/19/93 1:59p
Subj: CD's Buying Refer: NONE
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Looking for new and used CD's. Mess, call, or write.
C. Alvarez Jr
348 Chutney Dr
Orlando, FL 32825-3612
(407)282-8827 (voice)
Thanx
CAT
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From: CHRISTIAN BUHL Number: 3389
To: ALL Date: 09/19/93 3:00p
Subj: Good deal? Refer: NONE
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I can get a new CD-ROM (internal, 150KBS, 390ms) with three programs (An
Encyclopedia, An Atlas, and 1000 sound effects) and a sound card
(Adlib/SB/Windows compatible) for 249.90 plus S&H (15.00) Is this a good
deal? I already have a sound blaster (pro) but have found someone who
will buy it for $80.
Or I could get a Mitsumi 300ms drive (I dont know the KBS, probably 300)
for $210 (internal)
Which is a better deal? Which would you get? (I would use it mainly for
games and education)
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From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 3390
To: PATRICK MCCORMICK Date: 09/19/93 12:05p
Subj: Hitachi Cd-Rom Drives Refer: NONE
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Patrick Mccormick wrote in a message to Terry Blount:
PM> Hi Terry,
PM> I was wondering if you still had any of the used
PM> Hatachi 3500 drives and if so could you tell me some stuff
PM> about them. Like do you have the drivers for OS/2 2.1 with
PM> them are they compatible with OS/2 and are you still
PM> selling them for the same price.
I've been sold out about 4 or 5 weeks now and can't get any
more... but I have 4 of the newer model 3600's that I'm going to
take off my bbs and sell with external case, and power supply and
all the works for $750. These newer drives are excellent, fast
and sell for over $400 each when they are new.
I don't have the OS/2 drivers but I hear that Todd Enterprises
sells them for $40. I do have drivers that you can run them in a
VDM window. Give me a call at 205-824-2552 if you are
interested. Thanks
»Let us be glad and rejoice, for the marriage of the Lamb is come,(Rev.
19:7)«
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From: STEPHEN GUPTON Number: 3391
To: CRAIG GAGNER Date: 09/19/93 2:10p
Subj: Mitsumi Problems Refer: NONE
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In a msg on <Sep1914:10, Craig Gagner of 1:3626/1 writes:
CG> I am a Tech at a local Computer Store, and we have run into a
CG> problem with the Mitsumi Drives.
CG> The Mitsumi Drives with a manufacture date of June 93 will not
CG> work in a 486 system !! They just Crap out !! We have tried
CG> 4 different motherboards ranging from ISA to Local Bus. The
CG> same drive will work in a 386 no problem.
CG> Does anyone know what might have happened ?? I suspect they
CG> changed there firm wear with an upgrade which has caused this
CG> problem..
I run 2 of these on a 486 with no problems, which ver of MSDEX.EXE are you
running?
-=Stephen=-
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From: STEPHEN GUPTON Number: 3392
To: JOE HOWES Date: 09/19/93 2:13p
Subj: CD Speedway Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a msg on <Sep1914:13, Joe Howes of 1:134/40 writes:
JH> Does anyone out there use this caching program? I'm
JH> wondering if anyone has found the optimal settings for it under
JH> Day of the Tentacle and Space Adventure. I set it up for the
JH> Seventh Guest yesterday, but the video got so far ahead of the
JH> sound that the system would freeze from time to time until
JH> everything was caught up!! However, DOTT still pauses too long
JH> when sounds are being loaded and space adventure is just kind of
JH> slow.
7th Guest dosen't work too well on slower drives, CD-Speedway is no more
than a cashe, and you can't tell the differance without a stopwatch.
-=Stephen=-
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From: JOHN RACKLEY Number: 3393
To: GARY STIMPSON Date: 09/18/93 11:27p
Subj: Re: Amiga CD32 Refer: NONE
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Gary, the spec list on the CD32 you posted did indeed mention that the CD32
comes with a floppy connector. I would like to have this verified by some
official source.
You also mentioned an expansion connector. Have you heard any word on
whether this will have a SCSI port? If it does, we can expect to see
Commodore generate a lot of sales to people wanting high performance CD-ROM
drives. I'd love to buy both a CD-ROM drive and an Amiga for the price of
just the drive! ;)
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From: JOHN RACKLEY Number: 3394
To: JOHN PENDLETON Date: 09/18/93 11:38p
Subj: Atari & CD-ROM Refer: NONE
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So, are you saying that MINT and MultiTOS are basically the exact same thing?
RE: MINT & SCSI-PRO on the STe
I'm not clear on one thing, you're running a SCSI CD-ROM drive on your STe,
right? But I didn't think that SCSI was built into any of the Atari computers
except the TT and Falcon030. Is that right?
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 3395
To: NEIL HARFERT Date: 09/20/93 11:08a
Subj: Refer: NONE
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Hello Neil!
Have like new 7th Guest son's CD player won't play it comes with the viedo,
and all doc's $35 you pay shipping
Pat
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 3396
To: DONNIE RAYNOR Date: 09/20/93 12:38p
Subj: Mitsumi CD-Rom drive for sale Refer: NONE
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Hello Donnie!
19 Sep 93, Donnie Raynor writes to Pat Rickerson:
DR> Pat, I have considered your offer and here is what I am willing to do.
DR> It will probably cost close to 10 bucks to ship to Texas. I'll eat that
DR> but, I will have to get $165 for the drive. If you are interested drop
DR> me a line so I can be looking for your money order.
If that drive is still around on the first of Oct. leave me a message and I
will get it. Thanks for the offer.
Pat
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From: RICHARD VONZEL Number: 3397
To: ALL Date: 09/20/93 5:25a
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVES FOR SALE Refer: NONE
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Hello All!
I have 3 Mitsumi 8 bit internal drives for sale. All work great on my bbs.
150.00 + C.O.D. Contact me here or netmail me at 1:282/3022. I'm selling them
because I'm shuting down my system.
Richard
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From: RICHARD DRIGGERS Number: 3398
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/18/93 5:08p
Subj: Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
Bob,
Please send one of your catalogs to:
Richard Driggers
Sparta PCBoard BBS
13707 Staimford Drive
Wellington, FL 33414-8939
Thanks
Richard
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From: RICHARD DRIGGERS Number: 3399
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/18/93 5:12p
Subj: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please send one of your catalogs to:
Richard Driggers
Sparta PCBoard BBS
13706 Staimford Drive
Wellington, FL 33414-8939
Richard
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From: RICHARD DRIGGERS Number: 3400
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/18/93 5:13p
Subj: CD LIST Refer: NONE
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Neil,
Please add me to your mailing list as follows:
Richard Driggers
Sparta PCBoard BBS
13706 Staimford Drive
Wellington, FL 33414-8939
Richard
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From: RICHARD DRIGGERS Number: 3401
To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN Date: 09/18/93 5:18p
Subj: Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Michellea
Please add me to your list for a catalog:
Richard Driggers
Sparta PCBoard BBS
13706 Staimford Drive
Wellington, FL 33414
Richard
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From: JOHN BENJAMIN Number: 3402
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/19/93 10:43p
Subj: NEW FIREARMS CD! Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
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Packet: COZYK
Date: 09-17-93 (00:14) Number: 46
From: MIKE SHANNON Refer#: NONE
To: ALL Recvd: NO
Subj: NEW FIREARMS CD! Conf: (35) CDROM
MS> | Starvector Sales Bulletin #6: HOT NEW CD-ROM! |
> | Title: FIREARMS REFERENCE Price: $30 |
Mike,
Please send a catalog of your available CD's and drives and
anything else that is available to BENJAMIN COMPUTER SERVICES
P.O. Box 17380, West Palm Beach, Fl 33416-7380.
John Benjamin
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From: JOHN BENJAMIN Number: 3403
To: ALL Date: 09/19/93 10:46p
Subj: CD carousels Refer: NONE
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Folks,
I'm looking for a multiple carousel CD for my BBS that will hold
a minimum of 3 to 5 CD's. Need price, make, model & availability via
mail.
John Benjamin
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From: PAUL SWIDER Number: 3404
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 09/20/93 8:13a
Subj: CD's in the background Refer: NONE
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On 09-17-93 Ashwin Bihari wrote to Paul Swider...
Ashwin, Thank you for your information. I was responding to a msg Edward
Tushar sent (see below). Possibly you sent this reply to him to, I might
have missed it.
AB> -> On 09-12-93 Edward Tushar wrote to All...
AB> ->
AB> -> ET> Is there a way (or program) that will allow you to listen
AB> -> ET> to CD's while doing other work on the computer? Just
AB> -> ET> wondering. And no, I don't do WINDOWS!<G>
AB> ->
AB>
I don't have a Mitsumi drive but will try and store that info for
future reference. Thanks again for offering your help. >Paul<
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From: PAUL SWIDER Number: 3405
To: DEBBIE MARANTZ Date: 09/20/93 8:22a
Subj: T7g Help Refer: NONE
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On 09-19-93 Debbie Marantz wrote to Paul Swider...
DM> The number for the Virgin Games BBS is 1-714-833-3305 and
DM> they have two current updates online T7G124 and T7G130.
DM> Also, you have me a bit curious, as I had a STEALTH VRAM in
DM> my system until the CDRom was installed and the only
DM> problem I encountered was when I installed T7G, the video
DM> throughput numbers were 1% of optimum, which was a real
DM> surprise, since the card supports vram.
Debbie, thanks for the number. I got a hold of the files and T7G works
fine now. I understand what you are saying about The throughput numbers.
My Diamond board is the Viper VLB. I have found with the 2 Windows
acclerator boards I've owned that although they work fantastic in Windows
mode they fall real short in straight DOS SVGA mode and thats where T7G
operates out of. >Paul<
... OFFLINE 1.50 "Standards are wonderful. So many to choose from!"
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* Origin: The Choice BBS, Las Vegas, NV 702-253-6527 HST DS 16.8k (1:209/710)
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From: PAUL SWIDER Number: 3406
To: BENNY FOSTER Date: 09/20/93 8:37a
Subj: CD-Rom Drives Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-18-93 Benny Foster wrote to All...
BF> Anyone know of good sorces for the Panasonic CD-Rom drives (CR-562)? I
BF> am looking for aprox 10-20 at a time. I am also always looking for new
BF> and good sorces for CD-Rom disks. Any help would be appreciated.
Benny, I was helping a friend get and install a CDROM drive in his computer
yesterday and we happened to stop in an Egghead Computer Store. They were
selling a Dual Speed drive for $249.95. I didn't recognize the model from
the picture on the front of the box or from the name of the company, which
was Reveal, so I had the clerk open the box. To my surprise it contained a
CR-563b (Creative Labs number for the CR-562b). The box also contained the
40 pin cable for connecting the drive to a SoundBlaster card and the audio
cable to do the same, plus side rails for mounting, install software, and
a video on how to do it !!! >Paul<
... OFFLINE 1.50 "Easy as 3.141592653589..."
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* Origin: The Choice BBS, Las Vegas, NV 702-253-6527 HST DS 16.8k (1:209/710)
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From: PAUL SWIDER Number: 3407
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 09/20/93 9:29a
Subj: Sb Pro Or Sb 16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-17-93 Ashwin Bihari wrote to All...
AB> Hey all I am in the process of buying a SB PRO or SB 16 to replace my
AB> SB
AB> 2.0 since I have a CD-ROM and the regular SB cannot handle the CD-ROM
AB> output, I just wanna know which of these card would be a good choice
AB> and
AB> worth my money, since I wanna use the Soundcard for the CD-ROM games I
AB> have and Audio CD's. also what about PAS 16, please tell me about
AB> these
AB> card and good and bad<grin> things about these cards. TTYL.
AB> Ashwin
Ashwin, I have 2 systems at my house. One system has the SB16 and the other
has the PAS16. I find that I can play more programs that access sound cards
on the system with the SB16 because it is completely SoundBlaster compatible.
The PAS16 is SoundBlaster compatible only not SBPRO compatible. The good news
is that newer games, multimedia, etc. are now written for PAS16 also, so that
problem is almost gone. Personally, I like the sound quality of the PAS16
more than the SB16. The PAS16 has the SCSI interface built in which gives more
possiblities for more drives to be used. If I had to do it again, I'd stick
with the PAS16. I'm sure you'll get other opinions <g>. >Paul<
... OFFLINE 1.50 "Do not adjust your mind. The fault lies with reality."
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* Origin: The Choice BBS, Las Vegas, NV 702-253-6527 HST DS 16.8k (1:209/710)
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From: JIM CUMMINGS Number: 3408
To: SIMON MACKAY Date: 09/20/93 8:23p
Subj: Govt CD-Rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
The "U.S. Code, containing the general and permanent laws of
the United States" is available for $30.00 on CD-Rom under
catalog SB 314, Superintendent of Documents, Box 371954,
Pittsburgh, PA 15250-7954.
* Origin: Joppa, MD. "Prop me up by the Jukebox if I die."
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* Origin: Dave's Doghouse Balto, MD (410)256-7638 (1:261/1096)
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From: MICHAEL GRAHAM Number: 3409
To: ALL Date: 09/18/93 10:09a
Subj: Encyclopedia Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone sale an ENCYCLOPEDIA on CD for BBS's to work in a DOOR.
(DOOR.SYS)
If not this would be a good idea for someone to work on.
It would be nice if users could look up a subject, read it, and if
needed, to have it zipped up to be able to download it. No need for PICS
or SOUNDCARDS, Straight TEXT/ANSI/@ANSI@. Would be nice it it would
work for multi-line systems also.
--- WM v2.09/92-0389
* Origin: The Mother Board,Buckeye Lake,OH(614)928-2339 (1:226/1400)
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From: RICHARD JOHNSON Number: 3410
To: ALL Date: 09/19/93 3:09a
Subj: hitachi cdr 3500 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Looking for a Hitachi CDR-3500 drive. If you have one please let me know.
Thanks!
--- T.A.G. 2.6f Standard
* Origin: THE JUNK YARD BBS NODE 1 (1:226/580.2)
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From: ERIC TREMBLAY Number: 3411
To: CRAIG GAGNER Date: 09/19/93 11:28p
Subj: Mitsumi Problems Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> The Mitsumi Drives with a manufacture date of June 93 will not
> work in
> a 486 system !! They just Crap out !! We have tried 4
> different
> motherboards ranging from ISA to Local Bus. The same drive will
> work in a 386 no problem.
What is the symptom Craig? Ehat do you mean by "they just crap
out"? Does the driver report a "CD-ROM not Detected" message? Or is it
something else. Please describe.
TTYL
Eric
--- FMail 0.94
* Origin: Salterton BBS * Two Nodes * 19.2 Kbps ZyXEL Modem! (1:249/111)
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From: MARK GUTT Number: 3412
To: TIM CANFIELD Date: 09/19/93 4:43a
Subj: Kings Quest 6 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Go Back to the Isle of Wonder and pick one of the iceberg cabbages. Then return
to the boiling water and toss the cabbage in it.
As for the castle, you'll be able to get in later in the game if you
get the right things.
Mark Gutt
--- GEcho 1.00
* Origin: Mr. Homies' Neighborhood BBS--14.4k v.32bis! (1:139/645)
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From: DALE A COOK Number: 3413
To: ALL Date: 09/20/93 1:31a
Subj: SOUNDBLASTER CD-ROM DRIVE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone out there have a soundblaster compatible cd-rom for sale?
thanx!
--- Maximus 2.01wb
* Origin: Gargoyle's Place,OCALA,FLORIDA,USA * (904) 236-2320 - 16.8K
(1:365/3253)
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From: LOYD CRAFT Number: 3414
To: ALL Date: 09/07/93 3:05p
Subj: Custom cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
D i g i t a l
E n t e r p r i s e s
C u s t o m
C D R O M
S e r v i c e
We can transfer your Data from Tape, Floppy or Hard Disk
to Industry Standard ISO9660 Recordable CDROM's!
o Complete confidentiality assured.
o Free up Megabytes of expensive magnetic media.
o 650 Meg (74 minute) media available.
o Use as to transfer data to pressing facility.
o Consolidate Smaller CD's onto one Disk.
o Great for: BBS Files, Document Imaging, Permanent Archival
Traveling Databases, Multimedia Presentations/Demos.
Take those GIFS off of tape! CD is much more convenient!
o In MOST cases, your CD ships the same day we recieve your tapes.
o Free shipping via Two day US. Priority Mail. Overnight UPS RED Label
shipping is $15 extra.
o Our charge for a full 650 Megabyte disk is $144. If your disk has
less than 144 megabytes on it, we charge $1 per megabyte, minimum $90.
o Duplicates of the same disk are $55 each.
Tape formats Supported:
---------------------------
o QIC-40/QIC-80
o DC600/6XXX Streaming Tape
o Floppy ($8/hr for the Restore)
o Hard Disk
Terms:
Prepay for service via Certified Funds. Personal checks must clear
bank before production begins. SORRY, we are not able to accept your
Visa/Mastercard at this time. Make check, or money order payable to
"Loyd Craft".
* * * Please call before shipping your data to schedule your job. * * *
For further information, please File REQuest CDINFO from Fidonet Node
1:239/900.0 at V.32bis speeds, or call our voice number.
Digital Enterprises
Voice: 517-865-6800 - BBS: 517-865-6066 - Fidonet: 1:239/900.0
===
* OLX 2.1 * Spaceballs: The Tagline
* Origin: Four Star DayDreams - St. Charles, MI (517)865-6066 (1:239/900)
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From: LOYD CRAFT Number: 3415
To: ED YEE Date: 09/17/93 2:15p
Subj: Writable cd-rom's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
EY>It states clearly that it supports WORM though. Thus one could write
EY>CD-ROM's for him/herself to use.
WORM and Recordable CDROM are completely different animals. Their similarity
ends with the fact that they are both optical-based storage mediums.
A small list of differences and similarities:
- A WORM and a Recordable CDROM cannot be erased. - A WORM can have files
updated, with new entries replacing the old. - A Recordable CDROM volume, once
written is NOT updatable. - A WORM can be written to like a hard drive, using
DOS commands - A Recordable CDROM CANNOT be written to like a hard disk. It
must be
written and formatted with special software on a machine with
considerable horsepower to keep up with the drive. - A WORM disk is usable
only by compatible WORM drives. a CDROM drive
cannot read WORM.
- A Recordable CDROM can be read in any ISO 9660 compliant CDROM drive.
You are correct that with a WORM drive you could write data for your OWN use,
but only someone with a compatible WORM drive could use them, whereas a
recordable CDROM can be read by anyone with a CDROM drive.
lOYD
===
* OLX 2.1 * Hey Rockie! Watch me pull a Rabbit outta my hat!
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* Origin: Four Star DayDreams - St. Charles, MI (517)865-6066 (1:239/900)
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From: CHAD ROBINSON Number: 3416
To: ALL Date: 09/19/93 11:34a
Subj: Hitachi CD-ROM board Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have an interface board here that was working great for my Hitachi CD-ROM.
The problem is I now have a device that can ONLY work (due to its really BADLY
written device drivers) at address C800h. The same as the driver board. I
don't have the manual for the board - I bought the drive and interface card
used. Does anybody have a spare manual, an info card, information, or a number
I could call to find out how to change the address? Any replies would be MUCH
appreciated..
If possible, please reply via this or any echo, or netmail, to Alison Cozzubbo
at 1:141/975. I'm away at school and I rarely have a chance to connect to
Fidonet due to long distance rates. If you have access to Internet, I DO have
an address there: crobinso@stevens-tech.edu
Thanks for any help!
Chad
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 3417
To: CARLOS BENITZ Date: 09/19/93 8:02a
Subj: Re: Pollution Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Carlos Benitz to Dave Reed <=-
CB> The bickering.
Me, Too! Especially about Windows, OS-2, and caddies! If those involved
want to send endless flames at each other on these topics, I WISH they'd
take them somewhere else.
Cheeeeeze! Enough is enough, already.
... ARRRRRGGGHHH!!!! ... Tension breaker, had to be done.
--- Blue Wave/RA v2.10
* Origin: Hard Disc Cafe | Houston Texas | (713) 589-2690 | (1:106/30.0)
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 3418
To: RICHARD ROBB Date: 09/19/93 8:23a
Subj: Re: RULES OF THE ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Richard Robb to Bob Hall <=-
RR> However, now that the reasons for removing mention of XXX topics have
RR> been cited, I must say I'm disappointed in your reasoning. While it's
RR> true that children read the echo, that is a reason for banning
RR> *discussion* of adult topics. But that is hardly a reason for banning
Your argument is specious, Richard. Evidently you don't read this echo
often enough to understand the real reasons Bob made the decision he
did, which had nothing to do with any reasoning about children reading
this echo. His decision centered around his own legal liability related
to his being the moderator of this echo and residing in a state with
very stringent laws regarding pornography. Back up and read his last
post to Lee Noga on the topic.
RR> adult titles and prices, while continuing to ban discussion of adult
RR> topics or the material on those disks. That would be fair, and would
RR> be consistent with society's overall acceptance of the mention of
RR> adult titles on magazines, theater marquees, etc.
Your sense of "fairnesss" is bizarre to say the least. In the several
months that I've been in this echo (and the For Sale echo where the
topic is still OK), the language used in "discussions" of adult CDs has
been much "tamer" than some of the chit-chat, not to mention that used
in the flames that are hurled between users. You sound like one of
those unfortunate tortured souls who are plagued with the Ostrich
Syndrome: "If it isn't talked about, it doesn't exist." Get real.
Sorry, Bob. Couldn't let that one pass. <EOT>
... From the Law Offices of Dewey, Cheatham, and Howe.
--- Blue Wave/RA v2.10
* Origin: Hard Disc Cafe | Houston Texas | (713) 589-2690 | (1:106/30.0)
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From: LOUIS SOKOL Number: 3419
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 09/19/93 11:03a
Subj: Contests Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BJ> I once saw (and have since forgotten - dammit) a file description
BJ> thatclaimed 100's of "smiley face" characters. You don't happen to
BJ> knowabout it, do you?
Those are called "Emoticons". HAL-PC probably has it...
--- FreeMail 1.09
* Origin: Database Connections BBS * USR DS 16.8 * 713-495-4196 * (1:106/4196)
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From: LOUIS SOKOL Number: 3420
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/19/93 11:06a
Subj: DISCOUNT CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NB> These are just a few examples of our low prices...We have over
NB> 300 titles in stock.
Please send me a catalog @ 3350 Highway 6, Suite 563; Sugar Land, TX 77478.
--- FreeMail 1.09
* Origin: Database Connections BBS * USR DS 16.8 * 713-495-4196 * (1:106/4196)
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From: DANIEL SIGMUND Number: 3421
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 09/19/93 4:57p
Subj: mail order Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE: mail order
BY: Jim Lambert to Ken Chan on Sat Sep 11 1993 03:20 pm
> order. Just compare our prices to that of stores and magazines. If you
> are interested in receiving sales catalogs, either post your address or
> give us a call.
>
> Computer Works CD-Rom Sales! Jim...
> (205) 793-4481 Voice
> (205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card & COD Orders
Would like to receive your sales catalogs for CD-ROM's...
Daniel Sigmund
700 County Rd 219, #123
Box Elder, SD 57719
Thanks!
Dan
--- Synchronet
* Origin: Silver Bullet's Lounge, Rapid City (605)343-0755 (1:293/645)
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From: MIKE AVILA Number: 3422
To: KEVIN SULLIVAN Date: 09/18/93 5:34p
Subj: ProAudioStudio + T7Guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
*** Quoting Kevin Sullivan to Mike Avila dated 09-13-93 ***
> Thanks again for getting me running with the PAStudio / Texel combo.
> BTW,
> the kit has finally arrived (again?) at the post office, will pick up
> tomorrow.
>
Hope it all works out. FOLLOW THE BOOK FROM MEDIA VISION. It has step by step
instructions. Like I said before, I did it my way and used the wrong driver.
Actually, that is how easy it is to install. A book is not needed EXCEPT to
let you know to use the othe driver.
*** Quoting Kevin Sullivan to Mike Avila dated 09-13-93 ***
> My question today: Can the 7th Guest be configured to work with the
> driver
> NOT in SB compatibility mode? I spent a couple of hours playing the
> DMA and IRQ shuffle with PAS orig and PAS + modes, but T7G complained
> it
> couldn't find the hardware. What can/must be done to make T7G
> recognize
> the PAS in native mode? Any advantage, i.e. 16 bit sound instead of SB
> 2.0
> mono 8-bit?
>
I don't know how to configure 7th Guest. Someone else will have to help you
there. I did not do anything special to be SB compatible. I just load the PAS
driver each time and everything works. My only trouble was with Windows and a
call to MV and it was solved within 30 seconds. I gave you my settings in the
last message.
As far as I know 7th Guest should work if you just say SB and fire up the PAS
card. If 7th Guest does direct/tricky stuff it may not work. I haven't had
any compatibility problems yet but I haven't used a lot of the newer games
stuff or any specialized stuff. Sorry, but you'll have to ask one of the
people discussing 7th Guest. Hopefully they will see I cannot respond and will
respond to you.
Best of luck!
Mike
--- GEcho 1.00+
* Origin: Night Gallery BBS * DS/HST (1:120/209)
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From: LON SEIDMAN Number: 3423
To: SHAWN MAZZUTO Date: 09/19/93 1:25a
Subj: NEC CDR-84 Multi-Spin Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SM> Even if it's a Pioneer for argument sake?
I really don't know. Your best bet would be to contact both NEC and Pioneer
tech support for the answer to that question.
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* Origin: Treasure Island =HST/DS= 203-791-8532 (1:141/730)
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From: NKS IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR SUGGEST Number: 3424
To: IONS.ππ... DID YOU TAK Date: 09/19/93 5:04a
Subj: Seems To be one missing. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Software Heaven (813) 653-0029 Tampa, Fl (1:377/41.0)
--- MsgToss 2.0b
* Origin: Sherwood Forest RBBS 203-455-0646 (1:327/453)
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From: ERIC STAUFER Number: 3425
To: GERALD RYCKMAN Date: 09/18/93 1:34p
Subj: Gifs Galore Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GR> I have it online on my BBS but unfortunatetly it is currently
GR> under
GR> reconstruction (because of a network crash...several harddisks
GR> lost
GR> permanently). It should be back up by no longer than next
GR> month. If you
GR> wish, you can call my BBS at 1-416-286-6063 after October 1st,
GR> 1993.
Ok, I'll give it a call then.. I appreciate your reply.
GR> And Sorry, we only support 14.4k v.32bis to 19.2k ZyXEL modems.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Well, thats fine with me.. cuz, thats what I have :)
Thanks again!
..Eric Staufer..
..1:374/6568..
--- FastEcho 1.25/SuperBBS 1.17-3
* Origin: Cornerstone BBS (407)770-2004 PM14400FXSA 24 Hrs (1:374/2004)
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From: AL KOLLER Number: 3426
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/19/93 10:45a
Subj: Re: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
Great piece of writing, and super sentiments. Congratulations on ten years of
work (10?? Wow, right out there at the beginning of it all!), and keep it
just the way it is Bob. You do a great job.
Al
--- QuickBBS 2.76a
* Origin: SPACE COAST BBS, Titusville, Florida, (407) 269-2169 (1:374/3)
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN Number: 3427
To: MICHAEL BROWN Date: 09/19/93 11:41a
Subj: CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Yes, Prophone CD 1993, Questions? How complete is the
-> disk? Is it accurate? How did they load the information,
-> scanning? Also business numbers on the same disk, how
-> can you search, SIC code?
Hi Michael!
I've never used it, so I'll have to repeat what I've heard!
Its very complete for its price, medium accurate, and you can search by
SIC code. There are 7 discs, one devoted to business.
.\\ichellea
--- The Mail Box [NR]
* Origin: SUPERBOARD/CD-ROM WHOLESALERS (306)789-8682 (1:140/121)
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From: WILLIAM T. MCCLAIN Number: 3428
To: STEPHEN GUPTON Date: 09/20/93 12:57a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi CD Rom Drive Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SG> No problem for the LU005, I currently have two online and they
SG> work flawlessly. I also run a Pioneer DRM-604X 6 disk
SG> changer.
SG> <*=- Stephen -=*>
Thanks for the info.
... See ya later. -Mac-
--- FMail 0.96Γ
* Origin: The Logic Gate BBS (813) 831-8125 Tampa, Fl (1:377/49.0)
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 3429
To: PAUL KNOX Date: 09/19/93 2:25p
Subj: LOOKING FOR USED CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PK> I am looking for a disk full of shareware to use on
PK> my bbs. My address is as follows:
PK> Paul Knox
PK> 2405 Southdale Rd.
PK> Hephzibah, Ga.
PK> 30815
We have several of the latest and greatest shareware CDs in stock. Give us a
call at 615-476-4026 to discuss your needs. We usually have the best prices
also.
--- Maximus 2.01wb
* Origin: MAXspeed BBS * 486/66 Mhz ain't FAST enough..!! (1:362/119)
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 3430
To: GUY R. LANNEWEHR Date: 09/19/93 2:30p
Subj: National telephone directory Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GRL> I'm looking for anyone who has any of the
GRL> advertised national residential telephone
GRL> directory on CD. I believe they come in a set of
GRL> 3 or so. I see that DAK is advertising their set
GRL> for $149. What other companies is selling this
GRL> type of disk(s) and what is their price?
GRL> --- FastEcho/386 V1.25+
We have the Prophone 3 CD set which is 2 residential and one business for
$49.95 which is from 1992. There is a 1993 Prophone 7 cd set that has a
considerable larger residential for $99.95. Call 615-339-0235 24 hours or
800-547-7817 daily to order.
--- Maximus 2.01wb
* Origin: MAXspeed BBS * 486/66 Mhz ain't FAST enough..!! (1:362/119)
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 3431
To: KENNETH WATTS Date: 09/19/93 2:43p
Subj: WHOLESALERS WANTED Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
KW> Wanted cd-rom wholesaler to place orders with.
KW> Please send catalog or ordering information to:
KW> Kenneth Watts
Call Faye at Tradeshows at 317-651-1223. Tell her Doug Carpenter sent ya.
--- Maximus 2.01wb
* Origin: MAXspeed BBS * 486/66 Mhz ain't FAST enough..!! (1:362/119)
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 3432
To: RICHARD ROBB Date: 09/19/93 2:45p
Subj: RULES OF THE ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RR> However, now that the reasons for removing mention of XXX topics have
RR> been cited, I must say I'm disappointed in your reasoning. While it's
RR> true that children read the echo, that is a reason
RR> for banning *discussion* of adult topics. But that
RR> is hardly a reason for banning
RR> advertising of XXX CD disks. After all, Penthouse, Playboy, etc., are
RR> all advertised for sale in all sorts of public venues that children
RR> frequent. They simply can't buy them. The same
RR> rule should hold here.
The title names are just as bad as discussing them...such as GBL for
Gay/Bi/Lezzie, 101 Sex Positions 1 and 2, New Wave Hookers, Legends of Porn,
Dirty Talk, etc.
RR> In my opinion, your advertisers' freedom to seek customers, and your
RR> readers' freedom to find available CD's, has been compromised for a
RR> flimsy reason. (Many BBS's, including those in my area, do not carry
RR> a CDROMSALES echo.) I hope you will allow the simple advertising of
RR> adult titles and prices, while continuing to ban discussion of adult
RR> topics or the material on those disks. That would be fair, and would
RR> be consistent with society's overall acceptance of the mention of
RR> adult titles on magazines, theater marquees, etc.
Bob has the say on all issues on how this conference is run. This echo is not
here to advertise adult CDROM discs or any CDROM discs at all as far as that
goes. Bob has been gracious enough to let us advertise
CDROM discs on a continuing basis. We as vendors are fortunate that he has not
banned sales all together, so I wouldn't push your luck with Bob. He is a real
nice gentlemen and his rules are very tolerable and reasonable.
--- Maximus 2.01wb
* Origin: MAXspeed BBS * 486/66 Mhz ain't FAST enough..!! (1:362/119)
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From: JEFF HUBERT Number: 3433
To: ALL Date: 09/18/93 11:15p
Subj: Os/2 mitsumi driver Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I finally got a os/2 driver for the mitsumi cd-rom drive but it doesn't
support cd-audio ( only a beta version 1.04 beta). I tried the geramn
beta 1.05 but it doesn't work!
but I notcied I no longer get sound in win-os/2 and I do have the SB
drivers loaded.
If anybody knows what I can do to get sound blaster in win-os/2 again
please post!
--- OverMail v0.82b
* Origin: The DGS System -Viper- EC, Maryland - (410)461-9943 (1:261/1116)
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 3434
To: MARK WOMACK Date: 09/17/93 5:44p
Subj: Space Quest 4 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Can someone help me get un-stuck in this game? I've been stuck at
-> the same place for 3 weeks now. I'm at the manhole and see the
-> transport landing. Anwhere I go from here I get killed right away.
-> I don't even have time to think. I have several items in my
-> inventory but they don't help a bit. This is so very frustrating!
-> I'm really beginning to hate Sierra games because of this. Getting
-> killed every 3 minutes does not make a game any more fun - it just
-> makes it more of a hassle to play.
-> Any help would be appreciated.
->
->
-> --- Blue Wave/RA v2.12 [NR]
-> * Origin: Zero's Palace BBS - Goldsboro, NC. 1-919-735-4362 (1:3660/
Okay Mark, I was just there, acutally, about 2 weeks ago and what I did
was to click the walk icon outside the manhole and when Roger gets out,
you will find yourself near some bumed up car and then walk just right
and you will have a closeup of the ship you saw land, now use the hand
icon and click near the landing gear hole and Roger will go in and you
will be taken to a base, that is on top of a mountain, then you can go
left and when a new ship appears and the guys have done talking, get
into the ship and then punch in the code of where you wanna go and you
will be all set, they by the way do you have a code sheet, cuz I don't
and just punch any random code and get some place sometimes and
sometimes not, well try that out and tell me what happens, C-ya and
TTYL.
Ashwin
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 3435
To: PAUL SWIDER Date: 09/17/93 5:47p
Subj: CD's in the background Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> On 09-12-93 Edward Tushar wrote to All...
->
-> ET> Is there a way (or program) that will allow you to listen
-> ET> to CD's while doing other work on the computer? Just
-> ET> wondering. And no, I don't do WINDOWS!<G>
->
-> Edward, there's a program on Night Owl 8 disc that is called CDPLAY2
-> This allows you to do what you want on DOS (it'll also work with Win
-> You should be able to find it on a BBS near you. >Paul<
->
->
-> ... OFFLINE 1.50 "Advanced technology is indistinguishable from magi
->
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Hey Paul, if you have a Mitsumi I can tell you how to do it, if you do
have a Mitsumi the disk that came with it will have a program called
playcd.exe, run that program and place a Audio CD in your drive and
start playing and use the keypad and press 0, or use the mouse and click
on the quit key while the cd is still playing and you will find yourself
back on the dos prompt and you will also see that you have not lost any
memory, C-ya and write back. TTYL.
Ashwin
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 3436
To: ALL Date: 09/17/93 5:51p
Subj: SB PRO OR SB 16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey all I am in the process of buying a SB PRO or SB 16 to replace my SB
2.0 since I have a CD-ROM and the regular SB cannot handle the CD-ROM
output, I just wanna know which of these card would be a good choice and
worth my money, since I wanna use the Soundcard for the CD-ROM games I
have and Audio CD's. also what about PAS 16, please tell me about these
card and good and bad<grin> things about these cards. TTYL.
Ashwin
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From: TOM GUELKER Number: 3437
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/18/93 7:47a
Subj: PANASONIC CR562B Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BF> >Now let say you purchase 10 disks at an average cost of 40 dollars each an
BF> >then buy 10 caddies at a cost of 7.50 each. You would have had to trash
BF> >disks or 20 percent of your programs before buying the caddies will save
BF> >anything above the cost of their purchase.
That's not true, Brice. The tray is not permanently attached to the CD.
You can take the CD out of the tray (as you know) so your 2 discs or 20%
theory is not relevant. Are you paying $7.50 for caddies? That's almost
double the going $4.50 rate for quantities of 5 or more.
I've got two small children that use my computer. The piece of mind I
get with a caddy is worth the extra minimal cost. Try replacing some of
the older CD's no longer available.
Tom
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From: PHILIP WHEAT Number: 3438
To: GREG SWAN Date: 09/19/93 10:15p
Subj: amiga cd-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> hello all!
> just wonder'd if anyone out here is a amiga user??????
> if so do you have a cd-rom for it? was thinking abt getting one.
> is it worth it?????? what do you think?????? are the games that much
> more
> awesome?????? let me know please.
> thanks!--------------------------------->greg
Greg,
Sorry for the delay, but here's the info for the company.
Corporate Systems Center
1294 HammerWood Ave
Sunnyvale, CA 94089
(408) 734-DISK
They are a clearance center and I picked up that NEC CDR-25 for $159
as a refurb. I don't know if they still have it, but give them a call
and they will probably have something at a good price. If you have
access to a Fax machine, getting them to fax you an inventory list
is the best way to go.
BTW, if you do get a CD-ROM, don't forget you'll need to get a filesystem.
Xetec has a nice one but it's not the only choice you have. Also you MUST
get the Aminet CD-ROM in addition to anything else you're looking at.
Lots of great stuff there.
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From: PHILIP WHEAT Number: 3439
To: CHRIS DUBOIS Date: 09/19/93 10:15p
Subj: Amiga CD32 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Subj: Amiga CD32
> Do you have any more specs on this, like what CD-ROM format, how soon
> it
> will be released, etc.
It'll read ISO-9660 and CDXL formats (maybe High Sierra too, I haven't been
able to confirm that one). It should hit the US in either October or November
(conflicting announcements) and the MPEG board should be out the month after.
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From: ROBERT MCGEHEE Number: 3440
To: NEIL RIPSTON Date: 09/19/93 10:48p
Subj: Read Me Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NR> I have the Texel DM 3024 Internal. I am quite happy with the drive
NR> support.
NR> I had a problem after they upgraded it to Photo CD compatibility, an
NR> me a new drive under warranty.
NR> All I can say is I ahd a good experience with Texel.
Thanks bunches, I didn't know if it was a "Worthy" CD-Rom. But thanks.
And I just wanted to get some of the figues straight, everytime I
called the Texel distributer I got different statistics. I just wanted
to know what the access time, transfer rate, and buffer size was. I
have got the access time ranging from 260miliseconds to 280. and the
transfer rate is either 300kb or 330kb and the buffer sizer is either
64k or 256k. You would think they would be nice enough to give me
accurate info. I don't know if you know all of this stuff. I haven't
even heard of those three terms until I started wanting a CD-Rom. Ok,
well thanks a lot.
Robert McGehee
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From: SCOTT DAVIS Number: 3441
To: DAVID WILLS Date: 09/20/93 3:36a
Subj: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>BF>Have you bothered asking Bob WHY he has suddenly outlawed "Adult" CD-ROMs
>BF>from this echo?
>No.. but I am curious.. WHY?!?
DW> Hmph, it's pretty obvious isn't it? Religious activists and moral
DW>do-gooders have once again used their collective might to knuckle under
DW>another "public forum". Or should I say, "censored public forum" now?
DW> <Dripping with acidic sarcasm> Of course, it's in the name of all
DW>what's good and just that they "protect us from ourselves". We all
DW>wouldn't want to end up in hell, now do we? Anyway, don't you know
DW>that naughty pictures will make you a sicko pervert, kill everyone,
DW>turn to a life of crime, and take large amounts of illegal drugs???
DW> Gee, is this 100% flame bait or what?
Dunno but I agree with everything you said. btw, IF there is a hell, and IF
I go there, I intend to have a royal blast. <G>...
l8r,
Scott
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From: SCOTT DAVIS Number: 3442
To: STEWART ROTHMAN Date: 09/20/93 3:36a
Subj: XXX CD'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SR>I'm just curious.......Why does there seem to be such a proliforation
SR>of X-Rated CD's ? For those who are into that sort of thing, they can
SR>get much better quality and diversability with VHS Movie cartridges
SR>either for $29.00-$39.00 through the magazine ads or $1.50 to $3.50 per
SR>day at Video rental places. I cannot understand why anyone would tie up
SR>an expensive computer viewing low quality cheescake or porn pix, when
SR>they can get VHS tapes or magazines much cheaper. I'm not against
SR>them or complaining about them being here in the echo, just curious!!!
Because people like their computers. and you can manipulate an image on a cd-r
into say a Windoze or OS/2 desktop. and you gon't have to rewind a tape.
l8r,
Scott
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From: ALEX MOTTRAM Number: 3443
To: STEPHEN GUPTON Date: 09/20/93 8:08a
Subj: CD Speedway Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
##
# 7th Guest dosen't work too well on slower drives, CD-Speedway is no
more
# than a cashe, and you can't tell the differance without a stopwatch.
##[SG=>JH]
I'd beg to differ with you on that one. I did run some test on Lightning
CD. For a 9.5 minute game intro, using the cache sped it up by around
30 seconds <grin>. However, for data "searching" on a CD, it sped up by
roughly 30%. Not TOO great considering a 6meg cache in XMS, but it is an
increase. The only thing I've got to complain about is the time I forgot
that I left it in and ran Norton's SPEEDISK on one of my hard drives.
(I usually just use smartdrv, but load LCD when I'm gonna be messing with
a lot of CD stuff). Talk about take a FAT table and make no sense out of
it <grin>..
See Ya,
Alex
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From: BRIAN CURNOW Number: 3444
To: TIM CANFIELD Date: 09/18/93 12:27p
Subj: Re: Kings Quest 6 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
1> Can't pass the boiling water.
TC>
2> Can't seem to get into the castle... (tried 3 times, restarted 3 that
1) Get some lettuce out of the garden...Use it on the water.
2) You don't have the stuff for the castle yet....
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From: GARY KORPAN Number: 3445
To: TONY STOTT Date: 09/18/93 9:44a
Subj: Re: Vancouver? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>>On 09-12-93, Gary Korpan elucidated to Ismail Arslangiray:
>>GK>Combining your humour with such excellent prices is
>>GK> a double threat.
>?! Don't you mean "treat"? or did you really mean "threat"!!<g>
Hi Tony, I meant "a double threat" to his competition! ;-)
But you do have a point...it was a double treat for me...and
no doubt, his other customers.
Cheers
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From: GARY KORPAN Number: 3446
To: ANDRE QUEREE Date: 09/18/93 9:45a
Subj: KODAK PHOTO CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Andre, just an update to your comment to Gordon Fletcher...
PAINT SHOP PRO v.2.0 (just released as PSP200.ZIP) does
handle the Kodak Photo CD graphics format.
Quite an amazing program...if you are into Windows.
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From: ROBERTO REYES Number: 3447
To: DON BOSMAN Date: 09/16/93 1:49p
Subj: Reconsider Prophone93 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DB >RR>I want the PROPHONE 1993 do you have a fax number to order one copy?
>RR>Do you accept credit card?
DB >I'd like to recommend you do some comparisons, first.
>I have ProPhone93, the 7 disc set, and I am greatly disappointed in it.
>I bought it to get the addresses of franchisees of a chain I do business
Thanks for the information, I going to take note about it.
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From: JOHN ENGLAND Number: 3448
To: ALL Date: 09/18/93 4:01p
Subj: Mitsumi crmc-lu005s Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have a Mitsumi CDMC-LU005S CD-ROM drive for sale. Only a few months old,
still have receipt, box, and docs. With 16-bit controller card. Will sell for
$150.00 or best offer. I will pay for UPS shipping. (This is not John, this is
Jeff. I can be reached at (215)675-8886 or via this conference.)
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 3449
To: GUY R. LANNEWEHR Date: 09/18/93 6:04p
Subj: National telephone direct Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GL>I'm looking for anyone who has any of the advertised national residential
>telephone directory on CD. I believe they come in a set of 3 or so. I
>see that DAK is advertising their set for $149. What other companies
>is selling this type of disk(s) and what is their price?
I have one unopened set of Prophone 1993 available for $69 plus
shipping. It is a 7 disc set including the business and residential
versions. Give me a call if you are interested.
Computer Works Jim...
CD-Rom Sales!
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card & COD Orders
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From: DEBBIE MARANTZ Number: 3450
To: PAUL SWIDER Date: 09/19/93 4:50a
Subj: T7g Help Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
The number for the Virgin Games BBS is 1-714-833-3305 and they have two current
updates online T7G124 and T7G130. Also, you have me a bit curious, as I had a
STEALTH VRAM in my system until the CDRom was installed and the only problem I
encountered was when I installed T7G, the video throughput numbers were 1% of
optimum, which was a real surprise, since the card supports vram.
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From: GARY STIMPSON Number: 3451
To: GREG SWAN Date: 09/18/93 7:10p
Subj: Re: amiga cd-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of 06 Sep 93 Greg Swan wrote to All:
GS> hello all!
GS> just wonder'd if anyone out here is a amiga user??????
Right here. I own an Amiga 600HD and a Amiga 1200.
GS> if so do you have a cd-rom for it? was thinking abt getting one.
GS> is it worth it?????? what do you think?????? are the games that much
GS> more awesome?????? let me know please.
I don't have a CDROM, yet. Waiting for the CD32 drive for the A1200 to
come out very soon now. Have you seen my CD32 titles list? Commodore
expects to have about 75 titles out by Christmas time! Games will be
AWESOME. If you want to check out other CDROM drives, get the October
issue of Amiga World - lots of CD info. I'd wait for a CD32 drive if you
have an AGA system, or buy the CD32 console! You won't be dissapointed.
Gary
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 3452
To: LOU PETRALIA Date: 09/22/93 7:37a
Subj: YOUR TAGLINE Refer: 5864
Read: NO Private: No
-> IMO America has been in crisis since Kenndy was shot. Think about
-> 2 unelected presidents. A vice president and a President resigning
-> because of questionable activities. Its not just now, but it's bee
-> going on for over 25 years. Read all about it on a american histor
-> CD
Bullshit. Trashing America to promote a CD is as distasteful as it is
bad marketing...
tim
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 3453
To: ALL Date: 09/22/93 8:02a
Subj: CDROM_SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
There's been alot of discussion about CDROM_SALE not being available in
certain areas... I'm going to fix that.
As moderator of CDROM_SALE, it's my responsibility to see that this
echo is made available wherever there's a demand... At present
CDROM_SALE is averaging over 50 messages per day - this in spite of its
limited distribution. Well, we're going to make it available everwhere
& that 50 number is soon going to be 100.
Here's the deal: I'll pay all costs associated with piping the mail to
areas where CDROM_SALE isn't available - like Australia... I would
prefer not to do the actual distribution (though I could) - just paying
for all the costs...
If CDROM_SALE isn't available in your area, contact me & we'll see that
it's made available - on my nickel.
tim
CDROM_SALE moderator
Voice : 404-621-9210
FAX : 404-621-9122
FIDO : 1:133/515
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From: JESSE SCHMELZER Number: 3454
To: SHAWN FULLER Date: 09/15/93 7:07p
Subj: Re: DMR600 & 604X Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message on <11-Sep-93 18:16:22> Shawn Fuller (3:770/145) wrote:
SF> Does anyone use the Pioneer DMR600 and 604X on an Amiga?
SF> Or anyone use it with Starnet BBS software??
SF> I am interested to hear anything back on the Amiga side as I would
SF> like to run one with my BBS on an A3000.
SF> Cheers ... Shawn
SF> *FSED91m*
SF> --- Star-Net v1.02a
SF> * Origin: Outerlimits BBS *** (03)3-889-021. CHCH, NZ (3:770/145.0)
Yes i run the pioneer 604x on my A3000T Will be adding another soon. I run
C-net BBS
Jesse
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From: CHRIS SNYDER Number: 3455
To: ALL USERS Date: 09/18/93 12:49a
Subj: Cd for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
The Software Toolworks Cd Deluxe 2.
Includes: TST's World Atlas, US Atlas, Reference Library and the game,
The Secret of Monkey Island.
$15 or make me an offer, will ship USPS 2nd day for $2.
Will consider trade.
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From: CHRIS SNYDER Number: 3456
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/18/93 8:14p
Subj: FOR SALE-CD ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NB> I have other discs for sale also. If you leave me your name
NB> and mailing address I can send you a list.
I am interested:
Chris Snyder
RR 4 Box 306
West Frankfort, IL 62896
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From: CHRIS SNYDER Number: 3457
To: ERIC HSIAO Date: 09/18/93 8:14p
Subj: Day of the tentacle Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
EH> I finished the Day of the Tentacle and now don't know what to do
EH> can. Anybody in the North Carolina area want to do a swap? I'd
EH> like to swap for the 7th Guest or a couple of good shareware disks.
EH> - Eric
I don't have anything to swap, but I would be interested in buying.
Contact me here with a price if interested.
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From: CHRIS SNYDER Number: 3458
To: KEN MATTHEWS Date: 09/18/93 8:14p
Subj: CD's for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
KM> Day of the Tentacle 30.00
I'll take it. Let me know how you want to handle it.
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From: JAMES WILLIAMS Number: 3459
To: DAVE WONG Date: 09/18/93 9:08p
Subj: Mitsumi Cd-rom audio Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DW>YOU HAVE TO SWITCH THE PIN AROUND. WHAT I MEAN IS YOU HAVE A FOUR PLUG
DW>CONNECTOR, CORRECT. THE 2 OUTSIDE CONNECTION SHOULD CONNECT TO THE 2
INSIDE,
DW>AND THE 2 INSIDE CONNECTS TO THE 2 OUTSIDE. BOY, THIS SOUNDS CONFUSING
DW>DOESNT IT, BUT ITS NOT. A SIMPLE WAY IS TO GET A Y-PLUG TO DO THE SWITCH.
DW>MAYBE, I'M NOT EXPLAINING THIS RIGHT, BUT IT WORKS
DW>--- Maximus 2.01wb
DW> * Origin: Sea East PC Exchange (1:343/15)
Yea, you got me lost a little there, but thanks anyway. I found a work
around. By getting a Radio Shack 2 RCA plug to Mini, I connected the
drive to a set of small speakers and the sound card thru the Blaster and
my stereo at least this way I have sound. But please send me more info
on changing the audio cable to the adapter card. Gez, don't you just
hate work around :) Thanks all that answered my distress call :)
* OLX 2.1 TD * Press "+" to see another tagline.
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From: ROSS FOCKE Number: 3460
To: NEIL HARFERT Date: 09/20/93 9:33a
Subj: Re: 7TH GUEST Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NH> I'm about to purchase a 486/50v system and will probably get a CD-ROM
NH> the deal. I'm into entertainment programs, and would like a little in
NH> 7th Guest. All I know right now is that it utilizes a 16-bit sound-ca
NH> Please give me a description of the game so that I can decide whether
NH> to order it. Is $55 a good price?, or can I find it cheaper elsewhere
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Neil,
Sorry to but in but I have played 7th Guest and thoroughly enjoyed it!
It is best if you have a fast machine and a high data transfer rate
from your CD, not really neccessary but helps. It is a VR style game
that has many puzzles to solve. If you like other games by Id you will
love this one. I believe that this style of game is the new wave of
gaming. Looking forward to lots more like it. Great graphics and
sound.
Ross Focke
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From: JOE HOWES Number: 3461
To: STEPHEN GUPTON Date: 09/20/93 2:41p
Subj: CD Speedway Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SG> 7th Guest dosen't work too well on slower
SG> drives, CD-Speedway is no more than a cashe, and
SG> you can't tell the differance without a stopwatch.
hmmmm....7th guest runs perfectly fine on my 150k Mitsumi. I mean, it's a
little choppy, but I can suffer with a little choppiness to save the $500 more
it would have consted me for a 300k drive. Maybe next summer when 300k drive
prices are more realistic I'll grab one, but until then, I LOVE my little
Mitsumi!
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 3462
To: JOHN ENGLAND Date: 09/20/93 8:49p
Subj: Mitsumi crmc-lu005s Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello John!
18 Sep 93, John England writes to All:
JE> I have a Mitsumi CDMC-LU005S CD-ROM drive for sale. Only a few months
old,
JE> still have receipt, box, and docs. With 16-bit controller card. Will sell
JE> for $150.00 or best offer. I will pay for UPS shipping. (This is not
John,
JE> this is Jeff. I can be reached at (215)675-8886 or via this conference.)
Tell Jeff thanks for calling I will get the money off to him REAL QUICK!
Son can't wait to get it! Please reply as soon as the cd player is in the
mail, Jeff, thank's again!
Pat
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 3463
To: DAVID CARMICHAEL Date: 09/20/93 8:53p
Subj: External Case For Mitsumi Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello David!
19 Sep 93, David Carmichael writes to ALL:
DC> I have one of the older MITSUMI 600ms CD-ROM drives which I want to move
DC> from my system to my wifes system. _BUT_ her computer does not have any
DC> open 5.25" drive bays. So what I am looking for is 'EITHER' an external
DC> case for this CD-ROM drive or for her 5.25" Floppy drive [Which she
_MUST_
DC> keep] hooked up to her system. I can not move her systems mother board to
DC> another case as was suggested to me a while back.
Have what you are looking for, I think. This case had my 5.25 floopy in it,
but I upgraded my case. It is real nice, was going to keep it around but if you
can't find one give me a call or reply here. $20 I pay shipping 512-939-9822
Pat
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 3464
To: PAUL COLLIER Date: 09/20/93 8:59p
Subj: Busty Babes Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Paul!
10 Sep 93, Paul Collier writes to Pat Rickerson:
PC> $450!! I can get it for $A65! I'm glad I don't live in America.
Well we like it here!
Pat
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN Number: 3465
To: ALL Date: 09/21/93 4:12p
Subj: Visual Basic Shareware CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the sixth edition of
its Visual Basic CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a
dump of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The July 1993 CD-ROM has
534 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 120,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
Fax:301-963-2708, EMail:eengelmann@worldbank.org
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From: CHRIS WISE Number: 3466
To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN Date: 09/20/93 10:05p
Subj: Cd-Roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
----------------------------------------
>>MS:> ProPhone 1993 7-disc set 50 37
>>MS:> American Business Phonebook 25 19
----------------------------------------
How do I order these two? You take plastic
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From: CHRIS WISE Number: 3467
To: ALL Date: 09/20/93 10:05p
Subj: Makers of CDS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
This is going to the makers of CD's (which I am sure there are a few out
there). I just returned from a computer show, and do you know the MAJOR
reason why alot of CD's did not sell at a booth I helped run? Because
the makers had no list of the programs contained on the CD. It does not
have to be a full list, just a run down of some of the major programs on
the CD. Let me ask you a question, would you publish a music CD without
the song listing on the back? If not, then why publish a CDROM with no
list! We lost a lot of sales because we did not know what was on them.
Just an informational letter.
Lee Christopher Wise
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From: MAURICE VILLARREAL Number: 3468
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/19/93 4:15p
Subj: Cd-List Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please i'd like to receive the CD Catalog too.
Send to:
Maurice S. Villarreal
InGraph Sistemas
21 East Coma Suite 164
Hidalgo, TX 78557
Thanx.
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From: MAURICE VILLARREAL Number: 3469
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/19/93 4:21p
Subj: Catalogs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AS>If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave your
>mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
Yes, i'd like to receive.
Send to:
Maurice S. Vilarreal
InGraph Sistemas
21 East Coma Suite 164
Hidalgo, TX 78557
Thanx.
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From: MAURICE VILLARREAL Number: 3470
To: TIM CANFIELD Date: 09/19/93 4:22p
Subj: Kings Quest 6 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TC>1> Can't pass the boiling water.
You need to drop to the water, the frozen Lettuce.
SaludOS/2
Hal 9000
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From: MAURICE VILLARREAL Number: 3471
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/19/93 4:28p
Subj: Discount Cd-Roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> TOO MANY MORE TO LIST!!!
> FOR A COMPLETE CATALOG, LEAVE
> E-mail ADDRESS OR POSTAL
> ADDRESS!!!!
Please send me the catalog
Maurice S. Villarreal
InGraph Systems
21 East Coma Suite 164
Hidalgo, TX 78557
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From: ROBERTO REYES Number: 3472
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/18/93 3:42p
Subj: Catalogs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AS >***************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION ****************
AS >If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave your
>mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
AS >Thank you
Ok I like to receive your CATALOG take note of my address.
Roberto A. Reyes
14422 Industry Ave. Suite 7-54
Laredo, Tx. 78041
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From: ROBERTO REYES Number: 3473
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/19/93 10:16p
Subj: Discount Cd-Roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NB > SHORELINE CD-ROM'S DISCOUT PRICES
NB > These are just a few examples of our low prices...We have over 300
> titles in stock.
Please send me your complete catalog to
Roberto A. Reyes
14422 Industry Ave. Suite 7-54
Laredo, TX. 78041
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 3474
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 09/20/93 3:26p
Subj: CD-ROM GAMES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Hi Ashwin!,
-> -> I know what you mean Henry, I got the InterAction magazine and the
-> -> looks real good and I hope to buy it too, but actually right now m
-> -> are on Police Quest 4, I have never played any of the Police Quest
-> -> sereis so this is my first, hey by the way have you played SPace Q
-> -> 4, the CD-ROM or the regular version, cuz if you have maybe you ca
-> -> me, please write back, C-ya and TTYL.
-> Yeah, I've been getting Interaction since it was the Sierra News
-> Magazine..
-> I have PQ3 and it is absolutely fablulous! My brother is nuts about P
-> too. Yes, I have the entier SP series! It's my favorite! I have it on
-> disk, but still got to the end anyhow.
-> What are you having trouble with? Also, how old are you? I'm 17.
-> TTYL,
-> Henry
-> --- GOMail v1.1 [92-0231]
-> * Origin: Origin Line Not Defined In GOEDIT (1:152/103)
Okay Henry, in Space Quest 4, I got to Space Quest X where I get cought
by some women, wow, anyway they want to torture me but a slug comes and
I save them and they say to go to shopping and I do it, and they leave
me and I cannot find them, anyway I got like 96 buckaziods, a new set of
clothes, a SQ4 hint book and Hint Revealer,a cigar butt and a ATM card,
now I tried to get out of the mall but did not succed and just got shot
so I tried to go into each of the shops and in the aracde a time travel
police came in and I went out, well that's where I am, now what do I do
to get out of here, and I am 16. well hope you can help me, C-ya and
TTYL.
Ashwin
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 3475
To: RICK SHOAF Date: 09/20/93 3:40p
Subj: Mitsumi CD-ROM Audio Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> JW>I have just bought a Mitsumi CD-Rom drive Model LU005U, this is th
-> JW>latest High Speed Drive. I'm happy with it but am having trouble w
-> JW>the audio. I can get audio from the front mounted headphone jacks
-> JW>connecting the drive to my sound card (a plain Sound Blaster) wit
-> JW>cable that came with the sound card and then running the out put o
-> JW>sound card to my stero amp, I don't get sound. Anybody out there
-> JW>this set-up that might have had this problem and solved it. AKA -
-> JW>it be a bad drive, interface card, Ecte, or am I just hooking it u
-> JW>wrong. Thanks in advance for any help! :)
->
-> Your drive is good and so is the SB Pro. If you have the manual to th
-> SB Pro, look in the back at the schematic drawings, it will give you
-> pin assignments for the audio input. now look at the manual for the
-> Mitsumi. It's pins are a different configuration than the SB Pro. You
-> will need to reverse the wires to something like this...
->
-> Original What it should be
->
-> SB Pro Audio input SB Pro Audio input
-> Pin 1 2 3 4 Pin 1 2 3 4
->
-> 1 2 3 4 2 1 4 3
-> Mitsumi Audio out Mitsumi Audio out
->
-> Look at the manuals to make sure, because I've only done this once, a
-> it was on my brother's computer, not mine, so I'm not sure of the exa
-> connections.
->
->
-> Rick
-> ___
-> X OLX 2.1 X Windows NT.... The Binford 5000 OS!
->
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Well Rick, I also have the same setup that is I have a plaing SB 2.0 and
I use that with my Mitsumi, I can use the Sb perfectly with plain games
which produce mono sound but games which have stereo sound does not
work, and also I cannot send the output from an audio cd from by drive
to the SB since the SB cannot handle that kind of output so if you are
talking about Audio CD then forget it and buy a stereo card, but if you
are talking about games I don't see what your problem is. C-ya and TTYL.
Ashwin
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 3476
To: TIM CANFIELD Date: 09/20/93 3:45p
Subj: Kings Quest 6 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Hey anyone have KQ6 on CD-Rom?
->
-> I have it and am playing it, but I am stuck and am wondering if anyon
-> else has a clue?
->
-> 1> Can't pass the boiling water.
well one thing at a time, to get past this part go to the isle of wonder
and near the tomatoes look and you will see iceberg lettuce, use that on
this.
->
-> 2> Can't seem to get into the castle... (tried 3 times, restarted 3 t
-> is)
now you cannot get into the castle through the main door, after you have
finished the paint spell, use that on the side of a wall and you will
make a door and use that to get in, but this is at the end of the game.
-> Leave me a note - if ya can help - -> Candid Kid ->
Well if you need anymore help just write to me, C-ya and TTYL.
Ashwin
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From: KEVIN DONALD Number: 3477
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/21/93 11:54a
Subj: 16-bit sound cards Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Stay away from SB-16 and PAS-16 and Soundman -16. They suck. Get Gravis
Ultrasound. Sell your soundblaster...Gravis rulez...
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3478
To: LOU PETRALIA Date: 09/21/93 8:47a
Subj: BUSTY BABES VOL II-NE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LP> the news and current affairs. The moderaitor has chosen to eliminate
LP> discuessions of adult oriented material (which I believe is a bad choice)
LP> but so be it. What's bothering me now is all the WANNABE moderators who
LP> just love to get upset and flame whenever they see a X- or XXX in a message
LP> So to all you WANNABE'S out there here's your chance to fufill your destiny
LP> in life and make you dreams come true.
The entire issue over adult titles, discussions is driving me nuts.
Like yourself, the wannabe's can get on my nerves. As a matter of fact
I have a big poster in my office that says, "I only have one nerve left,
don't get on it!" :-)
ALL I am requesting now, is that if anyone should talk about the adult
titles, they do it with some taste and discretion.
I'd give anything if I'd never mentioned it in the first place.
Bob Hall
not so moderately moderating moderator any more.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3479
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/21/93 8:53a
Subj: CD-ROM QUESTIONS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE> Sunny Sydney.......
Wish I was there this morning. Eating a "bikki" with a tad of Vegamite,
a Cherry Ripe, a hunk of Violet Crumble, a taste of Billy Tea, and
perhaps toward the end of the day, a cold 4F. If my hands got dirty, I
could use that wonderful Sard soap to wash my hands. AHHHHHhhhhhh for
the land of enchantment.....
BOB
:-)
Guilty of dreaming for only a moment, and not moderating!
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3480
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/21/93 8:57a
Subj: KINGS QUEST 7 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BO>>> YO boris....
BO>>> The date is 8/9/93 and the cd-rom 2 this day has not come yet.
BO>>> R u having problems??!! Hey if u need 2 ask or there is sum
BO>Your order was faxed to us on 93/09/02 at 14:55 hrs. Your order was
BO>proccessed the next day and shippied via AIR MAIL at 10:48 hrs.
Boris, do like the rest of us, and use the phone for your order
problems. Tell your customers to do so also.
Bob Hall
Moderator.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3481
To: TODD OSTRER Date: 09/21/93 8:59a
Subj: CD'S FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TO>Hello: Our new Catalog. WE Ship World Wide Express Mail..
10 line limit on any ad in this echo. Please adhere to the rules.
Bob Hall
moderator.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3482
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/21/93 9:01a
Subj: DR. CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AS>Wont happen again.
Thanks for your cooperation
BOB
:-)
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3483
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/21/93 9:04a
Subj: RULES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AS>Mr. Hall,
AS>By this you mean, that in advertisements they must, be divided, say the
AS>"Shareware and Games, and non-adult" is ok here and ADULT titles are to
AS>be posted in the CDROMsale Echo? Or are you referring to just the
AS>"discussing" of Adult titles?
After having messages bombard me, right now I don't care. However, I
think that discussing the contents of ADULT titles in an international
echo is not a wise thing to do, it is simply respect to those that do
not want to read it, or have it exposed to minors.
For the sake of some clarity, discuss it in CDROMsale. Tim basically
has no rules, and he says it is ok......
Bob Hall
Moderator.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3484
To: DAVID WILLS Date: 09/21/93 9:09a
Subj: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DW> Gee, is this 100% flame bait or what?
Nope. I can send you all the copies of pure flame bait, if you want. I
almost feel like I was sent to hell there for a day or two.
Bob Hall
Moderator.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3485
To: TYRONE THOMASON Date: 09/21/93 9:13a
Subj: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TT>Pardon me for butting in but, it seems that the very thing that you are
TT>accusing others of doing, you are doing yourself. In defense of the
TT>moderator, adult material was banned to protect Sysops from setting them
TT>up for prosecution for violating State laws. Not the act of activist or
TT>do-gooders as you claim.
TT>Is the moderator protecting someone from themselves? Yes, but posting
TT>in another echo is a whole heck of a lot easier on your conscience than
TT>having someones computer confiscated Federal and/or State charges levied
TT>against someone when you know that you were indirectly responsible. A
TT>bit of an inconvience, yes but, responsibilty is more admirable. In
TT>other words, would say something to a person you saw about to step off a
TT>curb into an on-coming car or stand there and shake you head after the
TT>accident?
TT>The information I gave you for the banning of adult discussions was
TT>gleaned from messages in the echo.
I am so impressed with your message, (especially the words "in defense
of the moderator") if you will call me, 1-800-550-3503, I will send you
a free CDROM!!!!!
Bob Hall
still trying to moderately moderate this echo... :-)
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3486
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/21/93 9:15a
Subj: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BF>It appears to have a LOT (everything) to do with the fact that Bob is a
BF>"neighbor" of Tony Davis's....
Call me, 1-800-550-3503 and I'll send you one too!!!!!
Bob Hall
starting to smile a little while moderately moderating this echo.
:-)
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3487
To: PAM TEMPLE Date: 09/21/93 9:22a
Subj: 10 LINES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PT>Well at this end it came out as only 9 lines - so you continue to be on the
PT>side of the angels.
PT>Cheers,
Well it is about time I do something right! :-)
BOB
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3488
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/21/93 9:24a
Subj: DISCOUNT CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
there is a 10 line limit on ads in this echo.
Bob Hall
moderator.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3489
To: RICHARD ROBB Date: 09/21/93 9:32a
Subj: RULES OF THE ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RR>Thanks for publishing the rules of the echo, Bob. You're doing a good
RR>job.
RR>However, now that the reasons for removing mention of XXX topics have
RR>been cited, I must say I'm disappointed in your reasoning. While it's
RR>true that children read the echo, that is a reason for banning *discussion*
RR>adult topics. But that is hardly a reason for banning
Point so noted and taken. Follow some of my reply's today, and see if
you still think my true reason was flimsy.
Anyway, as long as people are discussing with taste, I'm fairly open.
BOB
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3490
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 09/21/93 9:38a
Subj: CONTESTS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BJ>I once saw (and have since forgotten - dammit) a file description that
BJ>claimed 100's of "smiley face" characters. You don't happen to know
BJ>about it, do you?
Call me, and I'll send you one.
Bob
800-350-3503
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3491
To: SAM BECKWITH Date: 09/21/93 9:39a
Subj: CD-ROMS FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
10 line limit in this echo.
Bob Hall
Moderator
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3492
To: STEVE HODGES Date: 09/21/93 10:15a
Subj: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SH>Please don't do that Bob. As one of the people who've been around for a
SH>large part of the 8 years this has been running (yep I remember waiting
SH>all week for a couple more messages:-) I would request that you do not
SH>ban ads.
SH>Main reason being that the ads here may be the only ones I see.
no problem. Again, the ads prevail.
BOB
:-)
BTW: How ya been doin?
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3493
To: PAUL COLLIER Date: 09/21/93 10:21a
Subj: ECHO RULES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PC> Yeh, sounds good to me. The adverts are the only reason I read this echo.
Will keep them up for you....
BOB
:-)
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3494
To: LAURIE BATT Date: 09/21/93 10:22a
Subj: ECHO INTO ZONE 3 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LB> TS> I have been advised by my sysop that Dave Hatch, who
LB>That was not the impression I got from reading a message in this Echo from h
Well you tell Dave that it will remain the same for a while, and be sure
to tell him, I said hello..
BOB
:-)
moderator.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3495
To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 09/21/93 10:25a
Subj: RULES OF THE ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DC>Bob has the say on all issues on how this conference is run. This echo is n
DC>here to advertise adult CDROM discs or any CDROM discs at all as far as that
DC>goes. Bob has been gracious enough to let us advertise
DC>CDROM discs on a continuing basis. We as vendors are fortunate that he has
DC>banned sales all together, so I wouldn't push your luck with Bob. He is a re
DC>nice gentlemen and his rules are very tolerable and reasonable.
Turning red. I'm flattered. Gosh. (kicking the dirt with my feet)
BOB
:-)
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3496
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 09/21/93 10:28a
Subj: RULES OF THE ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BJ> Your argument is specious, Richard. Evidently you don't read this echo
BJ> often enough to understand the real reasons Bob made the decision he
BJ> did, which had nothing to do with any reasoning about children reading
BJ> this echo. His decision centered around his own legal liability related
BJ> to his being the moderator of this echo and residing in a state with
BJ> very stringent laws regarding pornography. Back up and read his last
BJ> post to Lee Noga on the topic.
BJ> Your sense of "fairnesss" is bizarre to say the least. In the several
BJ> months that I've been in this echo (and the For Sale echo where the
BJ> topic is still OK), the language used in "discussions" of adult CDs has
BJ> been much "tamer" than some of the chit-chat, not to mention that used
BJ> in the flames that are hurled between users. You sound like one of
BJ> those unfortunate tortured souls who are plagued with the Ostrich
BJ> Syndrome: "If it isn't talked about, it doesn't exist." Get real.
BJ> Sorry, Bob. Couldn't let that one pass. <EOT>
Gosh..... where were some of you when I first mentioned the situtation?
Wating for the hanging party, the victory party, or the smoke signals
from all the flames??????
Anyway, thanks BOB
BOB
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From: TIM CANFIELD Number: 3497
To: MARK GUTT Date: 09/21/93 1:00p
Subj: KQ6 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am lost as to how to get pass the man with the big eyes.. that would
allow me to continue on the isle of wonder... where do I find this
object..? I have the mint, the flower, the rabbit foot, a poem, a mech.
nightengale and that is about it I think...
Thanks for your help
TLC
Candid Kid out
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From: JACK DIEHL Number: 3498
To: HEATHER KRAUSE Date: 09/21/93 8:49a
Subj: mitsumi Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
thank you very much jack
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From: CRAIG GAGNER Number: 3499
To: STEPHEN GUPTON Date: 09/20/93 5:59a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi problems Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SG>In a msg on <Sep1914:10, Craig Gagner of 1:3626/1 writes:
SG>
SG> CG> I am a Tech at a local Computer Store, and we have run into a
SG> CG> problem with the Mitsumi Drives.
SG>
SG> CG> The Mitsumi Drives with a manufacture date of June 93 will not
SG> CG> work in a 486 system !! They just Crap out !! We have tried
SG> CG> 4 different motherboards ranging from ISA to Local Bus. The
SG> CG> same drive will work in a 386 no problem.
SG>
SG> CG> Does anyone know what might have happened ?? I suspect they
SG> CG> changed there firm wear with an upgrade which has caused this
SG> CG> problem..
SG> I run 2 of these on a 486 with no problems, which ver of
SG>MSDEX.EXE are you running?
SG>
SG> -=Stephen=-
SG>
I also run a Mitsumi on my 486 Local Bus 66, but its not a JUNE 93
manufacture date drive. I use MSCDEX that came with DOS 6 and all is
well, its the new drives there sending us !
We have decided to go with the Panasonic 562 drive and stop using the
Mitsumi drives, there loss as we probably sold half a dozen a week...
Later Craig
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From: JOHN RACKLEY Number: 3500
To: GARY STIMPSON Date: 09/19/93 11:04p
Subj: Re: CD32 Info 2/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thanks for the info, Gary. Looks like the rumor of a floppy-ready expansion
port was greatly exaggerated. :-/
I think it's too bad. I'm not sure when the proper connectors are going to
be available to turn the CD32 into a full fledged computer. I guess I won't
buy one after all. At least, not right away.
Please keep us updated if you get any further information.
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From: RAY COOK Number: 3501
To: ALL Date: 09/20/93 5:02p
Subj: The 7th Guest CD game 4-SAiL Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
The 7th Guest CD Game
Complete with all manuals, Video tape
`The making of The 7th Guest', and
CD's still sealed in orininal plastic.
$ 45.00 (prepay and I'll pay shipping)
Contact Ray Cook (303) 429-1854 (denver, colorado)
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From: STEPHEN ZAPPARDO Number: 3502
To: ALL Date: 09/19/93 4:00p
Subj: New mitsumi 2x speed Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone have the price for the new Mitsumi double speed CD player? It
has a transfer rate of 300k and access of 280. This is the new CD player that
Gateway 2000 is selling with their systems.
TIA, Stephen
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From: LEE NOGA Number: 3503
To: TYRONE THOMASON Date: 09/20/93 9:15a
Subj: Re: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message to David Wills <09-18-93 12:28> Tyrone Thomason wrote:
TT>> adult material was banned to protect Sysops ....
TT>> up for prosecution for violating State laws. Not the act of activist
BINGO ! YOU speak the truth, and let me add you are most correct--This echo is
monitored by outside agencies, and I would imagine what is said here can and
will be used against whomever--
-=*>Lee<*=-
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From: KEVIN HOFFMAN Number: 3504
To: BRIAN RYCHLICKI Date: 09/08/93 11:40a
Subj: Panasonic cd562-b / sbpro Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Brian...
In a note to All <09/14/93> Brian Rychlicki wrote:
BR> I just spent about three hours with a dealer trying to install a CD562B o
BR> my system which is a 386DX40, coProcessor, 8 Meg of Ram, and a Sound Blas
BR> Pro. No luck reading disks.
My first guess would be an I/O address conflict. IRQ conflicts can also
cause your problem but they're a lot easier to spot. When I do adapter
card installations the first thing I do is use a diagnostic package to
map the system's IRQs, DMAs, upper RAM and I/O addresses. Most of the
problems I've found result from I/O conflicts and they're usually the
hardest to find. I also pull the cards to match jumper settings with
the diagnostics tests.
Something else to be aware of is that most diagnostic software won't
spot all IRQs, DMAs, and I/O addresses already in use because they
aren't initialized until the item calling them is used so you may get a
report stating that some item is available when in fact it's assigned
but dormant at the time of the test... any diag software worth it's salt
will show what ROMs have been loaded into upper RAM.
Two devices can share the same IRQ under the right conditions... usually
only one device can be in use at a time.
Few diagnostic packages list the proper I/O address matchup to the
corresponding device/software.
Each card in the computer should be pulled and inspected for it's
various settings... record each item's settings.
Another blind side can come when two devices are assigned to the same
IRQ... diagnostic software usually reports the first item to grab the
IRQ and doesn't see the second device on the same IRQ.
Once all cards are mapped be sure to keep a hard copy of that system for
future additions and trouble shooting. You should also add to your
hard copy any available IRQs, DMAs, I/O addresses, and open high RAM
areas to make future upgrades easier.
Hope this helps...
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From: CATALINO ALVAREZ Number: 3505
To: CHRISTIAN BUHL Date: 09/20/93 6:19p
Subj: Re: Good deal? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello there,
Here's my opinion. Go ahead and get the Mitsumi and use your SB Pro.
My reasons are that you'll get a faster drive and you will already have a
good sound card. You never know what to expect from a "SB/Adlib/etc"
compadible card. Also you can get better programs than what they are
offering, for very good prices.
But of course the most important thing I see is that Mits is twice as fast as
that other drive!
Hope I helped and Read Ya Around,
CAT
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From: CATALINO ALVAREZ Number: 3506
To: JOHN BENJAMIN Date: 09/20/93 6:21p
Subj: Re: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Cat here,
Love to get one of your catalogs!
C. Alvarez Jr
348 Chutney Dr
Orlando, FL 32825-3612
Thanx and Read Ya Later,
CAT
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 3507
To: DAVID RICE Date: 09/20/93 6:45p
Subj: GIFs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DR>Does anyone know where I can get the "GIFs Galore" CD. I have been looking
>everwhere localy and no one has it. Please give me pricing on it too
>if you can. Thanks in advance.
GIF's Galore is $15.00 from Computer Works. Give us a call if you are
interested.
Computer Works CD-Rom Sales! Jim...
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card & COD Orders
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 3508
To: GUY OMER Date: 09/20/93 8:37p
Subj: Cd-rom For Spitfire Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GO> I'm a SpitFire sysop and am -always- looking for new/best CD's for my
>system. Clearly CD's with SFFILES.BBS 'work' best for me. Please also
>note: price <drat> is also important.
Hi Guy. I run a Spitfire BBS also and have found the So Much Shareware
series to be the easiest to setup of all the CD-Roms I have seen. Are
you familiar with them? So Much Shareware 3 will even install Spitfire
and/or SF-Rom onto your hard drive and install itself into the SF-Rom
configuration. That's hard to beat! The file selection is very nice
and includes an entire directory dedicated to Spitfire utilities.
I'll send you a catalog in the mail. Let me know if you have any
questions.
Computer Works CD-Rom Sales! Jim...
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS
Online Credit Card & COD Orders
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 3509
To: CHRISTIAN BUHL Date: 09/20/93 8:57p
Subj: Good deal? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CB>Or I could get a Mitsumi 300ms drive (I dont know the KBS, probably 300)
>for $210 (internal)
CB>Which is a better deal? Which would you get? (I would use it mainly for
>games and education)
Personally, I would get the Mitsumi and fix the wire connector to work
with the SB Pro. You can get a better deal on the Mitsumi. The lowest
price I have seen advertised is $175, so I will match that if you are
interested.
Computer Works CD-Rom Sales! Jim...
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS
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From: TOM ARRUDA Number: 3510
To: ALL Date: 09/21/93 8:06a
Subj: Rebel Assault Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does any body know what the release date for Rebel Assault is ??
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From: NIEL EYDE Number: 3511
To: ALL Date: 09/21/93 10:25a
Subj: $99 CD ROM DRIVE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
For any lurkers interested in getting into CDROM, check out your local
Radio Shack. I've just picked up one of there CDR-1000 for $99. The
drive won't break any speed records, but if your interested in shareware
CD's you may want to check it out. By the way, it is also MPC compliant,
although it will run a tad-bit slow. There are closed-out so you way have
to do some digging. In my case I had to prepay for one, and they got it
in within a couple of days.
For $99 it makes a great spare CD-ROM drive too!!
Niel
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 3512
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/19/93 5:02a
Subj: DR. CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
Hi Mike!,
-> I'm very impressed with this CD. Loaded with sound/music files in sev
-> formats like WAV, VOC, ROL, SND, MOD, etc, and also includes lots of
-> utilities, music editors, demo programs, Adlib/Soundblaster applicati
-> synthesizers and the like. It is BBS-ready, so you should have no
-> problem using it on your BBS. In stock at $20 each if you're interes
That sounds good! I'll keep it in mind.
Do you have any catalogs?
If so,
1914 N.E. Crestview Pl.
Newport, OR.
97365
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 3513
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/19/93 5:07a
Subj: DISCOUNT CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Neil!,
I'll take a catalog!!!!
P.O. Box 1948
Newport, OR.
97365.
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 3514
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/17/93 12:31a
Subj: Re: SUPER SERIES Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
> IA>Ask for Super Series from your nearest dealer or call us;
> Ismail, you know there is a 10 line limit....
> Thanks.
> BOB
Ooops!..Sorry
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 3515
To: ROBERTO REYES Date: 09/20/93 6:33a
Subj: Re: Super Series Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Hi! Ismail
> Please, as soon as possible send me the prices of the following CD'S
> Super Games for Windows Vol. II
> Super_CD Shareware Library III (coming soon)
> Super Programmer (will be ready 19 Sept. 93)
Hi Roberto,
This week most of our customers will receive a catalog from us. Our 16 page
catalog even is not enough to list everything we got :-) TTYL
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From: JOHN PENDLETON Number: 3516
To: JOHN RACKLEY Date: 09/21/93 12:44a
Subj: Atari & CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JR> So, are you saying that MINT and MultiTOS are
JR> basically the exact same thing?
JR>
MultiTOS is based on MINT, Yes.
JR> RE: MINT & SCSI-PRO on the STe
JR>
JR> I'm not clear on one thing, you're running a SCSI CD-
JR> ROM drive on your STe, right? But I didn't think
JR> that SCSI was built into any of the Atari computers
JR> except the TT and Falcon030. Is that right?
That is also correct. ICD puts out an interface card that allows the use of any
SCSI device. As long as you have the proper drivers. The latest software
available allows the use of the newer removeable media devices (Floptical,
Magne-optical, etc...) As well as the CD-ROM.
John
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From: STEVE GERWECK Number: 3517
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/19/93 3:18p
Subj: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Adrian Salas to All <=-
AS> ***************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION ****************
AS> If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave
AS> your mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
Thanks...
... Steve Gerweck, 530 Concetta Drive, Monroe, MI 48161-3542
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3518
To: POE LIM Date: 09/20/93 6:52p
Subj: Cr562b Cd-rom Drive Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Poe!
On 09-18-93 Poe Lim wrote to Rowan Evans...
PL> Hello Rowan,
PL>
PL> On Sep 14 20:40 in a msg to Michael Cooper, Rowan Evans of 3:711/413
PL> wrote:
PL>
PL> > You'd be disappointed with the throughput of a SCSI CD-ROM after
PL> > seeing a CR562B in action!
PL>
PL> I really have to try this bit out; must get a 562B and run
PL> it against my 3401 to rate throughput. And I wonder how
PL> would the CR-503 compare; it would be the easiest solution
PL> as I don't have to get a new soundcard, and I can take 2
PL> more SCSI devices.
Please do! I'd be *MOST* interested in the results. Until then, I'll stand
by my statements that SCSI CD-ROMs are slow compared to the CR-562B/CR563!
Using the CR503 is a bit unfair to the other CD-ROM drives though - it has
a 256Kb buffer according to the spex....
PL> > SB 2.0 compat..) and the SB16 ASP comes out a close third with the
PL> > option of the Wave Blaster wave table synthesis daughter card and
PL> > will allow the attachment of a CR562B, so I went with the SB16 ASP!
PL> > Haven't been disappointed yet!
PL>
PL> How's the sound like for the SB16 ASP? I've read some people saying
PL> it's not that good, and doesn't do SB Pro and you'd be better off
PL> with the PAS 16, then others say it's pretty good.
Well, I do believe that the sound output of the PAS in 16-bit mode is a
little better than the SB Pro or 16/16 ASP, but the difference is not
*THAT* great and a poor set of speakers on either card will make it
appear worse than it is!
PL> From memory you may have had the chance to compare the two; just
PL> wondering if it's worth it going that way, or I'd be better
PL> off with a SB Pro first, and wait for the new OPL.
As you're already running a SCSI CD-ROM, why not look at the new, cheaper
PAS 16 without the SCSI host adapter??
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3519
To: TOM BULUM Date: 09/20/93 6:55p
Subj: Re: Panasonic CD drive Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Tom!
On 09-16-93 Tom Bulum wrote to Rowan Evans...
TB> -=> Rowan Evans was heard mumbling to Gaetano Calia about
TB> -=> Re: Panasonic CD drive<=-
TB>
TB> RE> Depends on what you're looking at... The 4.0 SBCD.SYS was plenty
TB> RE> fast, but would "jerk" in T7G when moving & playing sound...
TB> RE> 4.10 beta & 4.11 appear to have fixed the problem.....
TB>
TB> I've got SBCD.SYS V4.11 but I use another file,
TB> SBPCD_V2.SYS which is version 2.00 . Any ideas which one is better?
Haven't seen the SBPCD_V2.SYS driver.... I'll have to logon to the
Creative Pacific BBS and see if its there.... What does it say about
the CD-ROM drives it supports? The older SBPCD.SYS did not work with
the CR-562B/CR563 drives (so Steve Harrington told me!).....
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3520
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/20/93 7:29p
Subj: Panasonic Cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Boris!
On 09-18-93 Boris Osadciw wrote to All...
BO> )))))))))))))))))) P A N A S O N I C 5 6 2 ((((((((((((((((((((
BO> The ALL NEW Panosonic 562 is here and ready for delievery!!
BO> 340ms access time / 300kps transfer rate
^^^
Why then does my manual for the above-mentioned CD-ROM drive say 320ms
in double speed mode?? <g>
o
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 3521
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/20/93 5:21p
Subj: Pro Audio Studio 16Xl Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE> Wavetable wasn't (still isn't) a priority, however it's nice to know
RE> that I can connect a Wave Blaster to my SB 16 ASP when it does becom
RE>so!
Do yourself a favour, hear a few of your favourite games with a decent
wavetable synth. Waveblaster is a dead-end product, mainly because it is
all ROM and no RAM, so you (or game developers) can't add custom samples
and patches. The PAS-XL will have both RAM/ROM, which is certainly
superior to the WB. The problem with ROM based patches, is that you
start hearing the same instruments in all your games...
RE> As for the two wavetable cards you mentioned, the GUS SCSI is *STILL
RE> not available and I don't know whether the Roland has CD-ROM support
RE> onboard.....
Whats the issue here? There are plenty of good SCSI controllers
avaiable. This is a popular misconception, the CD rom controller does
NOT have to be on the soundcard, it is quite independent. A dedicated
SCSI card will be of a higher quality than one on a Soundcard anyhow.
I am using a GUS with a TEXEL 3024 drive, and an Adaptec SCSI card. No
probs.
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From: SCOTT GOLBY Number: 3522
To: LEE NOGA Date: 09/19/93 3:27p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Vol II-N Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Lee,
With this New Busty Babes disk have you made a better effort to
remove the pictures that have come from Playboy magazine? I saw well
over 50 in the Busty Babes I have here. I saw next to none from
Penthouse, but plenty from Playboy.
'C' ya... Scott Golby
sgolby@st.nepean.uws.edu.au
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From: SCOTT GOLBY Number: 3523
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/19/93 3:29p
Subj: Catalogs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi there,
AS> If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave your
AS> mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
If you can Netmail or EMial it, I'll take one thanks.
Please send to. Scott Golby 3:713/616 (Fidonet)
or sgolby@st.nepean.uws.edu.au (Internet)
Thanks.
'C' ya... Scott Golby
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From: ALAN WHITEMORE Number: 3524
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/19/93 4:43p
Subj: panasonic 562b Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Rowan!
AW>> Well that last line is wrong. If I unplug the cable connecting the
AW>> CD-ROM to the line-in on the SB whilst an audio piece is playing, I
AW>> lose all sound. How can the line-in be for recording purposes =only=?
RE> What type of Audio piece are we talking about here Alan?? I mean, you're
RE> getting pretty strict at correcting me (I don't mind it if I'm wrong
RE> <g>).. and then you don't provide sufficient info to let me know
*EXACTLY*
RE> what you're doing!
I agree that I could have been clearer. The audio I mentioned is the audio
from multimedia applications and not audio CD.
AW>> There's no doubt that SB 16 or SB pro are good
AW>> solutions for the 562B in that they can used for the interface card as
AW>> well as sound but for me at least, there doesn't seem to be any point
AW>> in upgrading a SB mono card that is currently providing perfectly good
AW>> sound. When I want to listen to Audio CD's, I reach around and unplug
AW>> the cable from the line out on the SB and plug it into the 'phone'
AW>> jack on the CD-ROM drive. Big deal.
RE> There appears to be some contradiction here.... You said earlier "unplug
RE> the cable connecting the CD-ROM to the line-in on the SB whilst an audio
RE> piece is playing"... and now you say you have to move the speaker cable
RE> from line out to the headphone socket of the CD-ROM to hear an audio
RE> CD...
I have a cable running from the external red & white connectors on the
CD-ROM interface card to the line-in on the SB mono. This cable appears to
provide the audio - from MM apps NOT audio CD's ;-), and if I unplug that
cable whilst the MM app is running, the sound is abruptly cut off. This was
my basic test to prove that the line-in wasn't just for recording purposes
as had been suggested.
RE> What gives??
I have two choices when I want to listen to audio CD's through the 562-b.
Either unplug the cable from the line out on the SB and move it to the jack
on the front of the CDROM drive, or plug a set of headphones into the 562b
jack.
RE> 1. The mono SB 1.0/1.5/2.0 WILL provide sound for multimedia
RE> applications and, unless you want stereo sound and a CD-ROM
RE> controller on the sound card, you don't have to buy anything
RE> else....
RE> 2. The mono SB (etc) WILL NOT allow you to hear Audio CDs though
RE> the speakers connected to the SB, even if you have the CD-ROM
RE> drive headphone jack connected to line-in of the SB and [MCI]
RE> CD Audio loaded....
RE> Is this correct from your testing?? If so, please advise so that the
RE> correct (and verified) information amy be passed on to anyone who asks!
This looks pretty clear Rowan. I have to admit I haven't tested whether the
second part of point 2 would work (I don't have a male-male connector). I
think I'd be willing to bet dollars that it wouldn't work.
Regards, Alan
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From: ALAN WHITEMORE Number: 3525
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/19/93 5:07p
Subj: Panasonic 562b + Sb Mono Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Rowan!
AW>> Just as a matter of interest, how clear is the Audio in your
AW>> encyclopedia using SB 16 ASP? I'm finding the sound quite clear
AW>> through a SB mono, but distortion in the upper and lower ranges is
AW>> quite evident in some of the classical music selections. The animal
AW>> and bird sounds seem crystal clear though.
RE> I think its more the speakers than the sound card, as I like to hear
RE> my Audio CDs fairly *LOUD* and have had a lot of trouble finding a
RE> set of speakers that will cope!
I'm mostly just plugging headphones into the jack on the 562b for audio
CD's. It doesn't drive them as loudly as the typical audio portable CD
player does though. I'm quite impressed that playing an audio CD in the
background has such little impact on Window's performance.
The classical music I mentioned was one of the selections in the STW MPC
encyclopedia. I found the distortion quite evident and just wondered how
much more superior the SB 16 ASP was for MM applications.
Regards, Alan
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From: NEIL BERGMAN Number: 3526
To: BENNY FOSTER Date: 09/20/93 2:34p
Subj: FOR SALE-CD ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Both...I can help you with any size order....Large or Small!!!
Thanks,
Neil
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From: NEIL BERGMAN Number: 3527
To: ALL Date: 09/20/93 8:35p
Subj: SPECIAL CD-ROM PRICES!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SHORELINE CD-ROM'S DISCOUT PRICES!!!
These are just a few examples of our low prices...We have over 300
titles in stock.
WINWARE III $15.53
SOFTWARE VAULT 2 (1993) $18.54
MONSTER DISC(2-DISCS SHAREW.) $36.23
OUR SOLAR SYSTEM $14.66
COOK BOOK HEAVEN $18.95
HAM RADIO $14.66
CARMEN SAN DIEGO DELUXE $22.43
WING COMMANDER & ULTIMA VI $15.53
WORLD ATLAS (MPC OR DOS) $15.53
KODAK PHOTO CD $15.53
ANIMALS MPC (SAN DIEGO ZOO) $20.70
DAGGER OF AMON RA $32.78 TOO MANY MORE TO LIST!!!
KINGS QUEST V $16.74
LOOM $14.66 FOR A COMPLETE CATALOG, LEAVE
SUPER SHAREWARE/w/SUPER BBS $31.05 E-mail ADDRESS OR POSTAL
TERRORIST GROUP PROFILES (CIA) $31.91 ADDRESS!!!!
NIGHT OWL 9 $30.19
UP ALL NIGHT $18.11
***ADULT***
(MUST BE 18 OR OLDER!!!)
L.A. STRIPPERS (NEW) $44.95 FULL MOTION VIDEO ALBUM(INTERACT)
HIDDEN OBSESSIONS $53.48 FULL MOTION VIDEO
ASIAN LADIES $31.91 (BBS READY)
THINGS CHANGE:MY FIRST TIME $37.09 (XXX 80 MIN FULL MOTION VIDEO)
MOVING FANTASIES $19.85 (BBS READY)
VISUAL FANTASIES $19.85 (BBS READY)
VOLCANO $32.78 (BBS READY)
SOUTHERN BEAUTIES $31.91
STAREWARE $31.91 (BBS READY)
STORM I,II,III $22.38 (EACH!) BBS READY
HIDDEN OBSESSIONS $48.00 (FULL MOTION VIDEO)
SEXXCAPADES-THE MOVIE $44.20 (FULL MOTION VIDEO)
MY PRIVATE COLLECTION $32.78 (BBS READY)
DEEP THROAT $42.76 FULL MOTION VIDEO
MAN POWER $41.00 BBS READY
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WE ACCEPT VISA, MC, AX & DISCOVER. CHECK OR M.O. (ADD 3% FOR CREDIT CARDS)
$4.00 S&H FOR ORDERS OF 1-5..$1.00 PER EACH ADDITIONAL DISC.
CANADA ADD $4.00 + $1.50 EACH DISC OVER 5, FOREIGN ADD $12.00 + $2.00
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LOS ANGELES, CA 90035 FAX: (310) 652-2608
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From: GIL MACHIN Number: 3528
To: ERIC CASSIMATIS Date: 09/20/93 5:23p
Subj: Mitsumi CD ROM Drive; So Refer: NONE
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Think Hard Now! Which One is Shinola?
m
EC>- It has an output jack in the front, with a volume control.
EC>- This CDROM does not have a SCSI device, but rather an 8-bit card wit
EC>some dip switches, two sets of pins (irq and DMA), and a 40 (I think)
EC>pin flat-ribbon cable coming out of it
EC>- It, most importantly, doesn't have a caddie! You press the face of t
EC>CDROM, it clicks out and you then pull the remainder out, open the top
EC>up and plop the CD into the casing ....
EC>
EC>If this is so, please confirm - or ANYone else out there. I need to
EC>know, so that I can get the mitsumi drivers for OS2.1 .... otherwise I
EC>don't make the transition!
Eric:
The LU 005S has a 16 bit interface card. I think the Tandy drive is an
older drive, same as LU 002? the physical description of the Tandy and the
LU 005S are the same case types. I thinl that OS/2 dravers are aviable but
are third party commerical ($). I do not know of a source,keep reading the
echo somebody will have a source. Gil
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From: DOUG SCHWANTES Number: 3529
To: JAMES WILLIAMS Date: 09/19/93 7:02a
Subj: Mitsumi/SB Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi James,
I also have a Mitsumi drive and think it's great (for a non-2x speed drive).
I have mine connected to a SBPRO Deluxe but I think this may help. I
have the Mitsumi's 4 pin connector from the drive hooked up to the Mitsumi's
interface card, then hookup the RCA line from the back of the Mitsumi's
interface card to the Sound blaster's IN line, (I'm not sure your Sound
Blaster
has an IN line), this works great and you only need one pair of speaker's.
I to have tried to connect the Mitsumi's 4 pin connector to the SoundBlaster's
4 pin and it didn't work. But if anyone knows a different way to do this
please
let me know.
I hope this helps you Jim, keep us posted!
=Doug=
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3530
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/20/93 2:16p
Subj: Re: DR. CD Collection Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Hi Boris!
>>
>> On 09-13-93 Boris Osadciw wrote to Chris Wood...
>>
BO>> BO>> ORDER LINE ONLY - 800-243-0517 - TECH - 216-225-3263 - FAX -
BO>> BO>> 216-225-6759
BO>>
BO>> >> Ever consider making that 800 number a North America wide toll
BO>> >> free line? Us folks up here in Canada give you some business
BO>> >> don't we? <grin>
BO>>
BO>> Already done Chris !! Should be Online sometime this week, but it
BO>> will be and ORDER LINE ONLY and we will not give out product support
BO>> nor offer any price comparisions. It will strickly be so our friends
BO>> in Canada will be able to place an order without any international
BO>> long distance costs.
>>
>> How about 0014 (International Toll-Free from Australia)
>> support.....
>> You have keen prices, but I wouldn't like to get hung on a
>> phone queue waiting to order...... <g>......
>>
We're looking into it and we'll post it as soon as we decide if it would
be worth the investment.
Thank you for your interest !
Boris Osadciw
... Happy as a Pig in Mud!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3531
To: ROB LIBRIZZI Date: 09/20/93 2:16p
Subj: Re: NEW CD'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Boris,
>> What date(s) are on the DR series of CD's. are they
>> 1992-1993, mostly 1993 or are there a bunch of 1991 & 1992
>> files ???
Mostly 92-93 and very few 91's....
If we can be of any further help, please feel free to call us at
216-225-3263 anytime.
Hope this helps......
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3532
To: KEN UHRICK Date: 09/20/93 2:16p
Subj: Re: Southern Beauties Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=>> Quoting Boris Osadciw to Bob Jackson <=-
>>> Unfortunately, Ismail's not alone. This CD is being hawked to
>>> sysops in several adult echos/links as "New, Hot, and BBS
>>> Ready". I tried to warn them (hawkers). Told them to read the
>>> back of the jewel case (copyright notice); told them to look
>>> at the "FILES.BBS" files (they're there but useless); etc. I
>>> was told rather impolitely to buzz off. I guess Blaine's got
>>> his work cut out for him (sigh). --- FreeMail 1.07b
BO>> Well, let's put a warning lable on it ...."Southern Beauties - If
BO>> placed on any BBS systems for users access, they will be suide by Blain
BO>> Richards, no if ands or butt's <- sorry for the pun!"
BO>> That'll get there attention !!
>> I FELL that sellers need to tell users that its not a bbs
>> disk befor selling it too sysops
I totally agree and we do tell our customers if a cd is BBS ready, even
those like Shareware 1993 - Games 1883 and Windows 1993 ( which we don't
carry ) we explain that these cd's require a lot of work to get them to be
BBS ready, even though they say thier BBS Ready.
>> i MITE BE NUTTS but the sellers dont care or some thing it
>> that sell A non bbs cd-rom AS bbs ready
In our case, we DO CARE about our customers and we'll do whatever we can
to make them happy.
Later.....
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3533
To: PHILIP MARTELLI Date: 09/20/93 2:16p
Subj: Re: Educational CD-ROM Software, Software for partially Sighted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> I work for an Educational Trust fund that is always looking
>> for new software on CD-ROM. Our main requirement is that the
>> software has real classroom value, not just a pretty toy.
>>
>> In particular we are interested in text databases,
>> dictionaries, encyclopaedias etc, that do not use a graphical
>> interface - as certain hardware used for partially sighted
>> students cannot handle GUIs.
We have an author that is currently working on just such a CD!
We'll post the info as soon as it's ready for shipping.
Need any additional information, please netmail us to the address
below or call us direct at 216-225-3263 and we'll be happy to
assist you further.
Boris Osadciw
... Happy as a Pig in Mud!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3534
To: ANTON SWART Date: 09/20/93 2:16p
Subj: Re: Thanx Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> THanx i got KQ6 2dya
>> pleasure doing bizzness!
>> cheers
>> l8ta
Glad to hear it!!
Enjoy....
Boris Osadciw
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From: PETER LASNE Number: 3535
To: JOHN RACKLEY Date: 09/19/93 9:06p
Subj: Re: AMIGA CD ROM.. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm not sure what the release date is here in America, I'm pretty sure
it has been released in Europe already, so it shouldn't be too far off.
There are many ways to network the Amiga with other computers, the most
used is Novell, I don't think that Novell can be used across a SCSI port
BUT I am almost positive that there is a Novell network card for the
PCMCIA card slot (if it's not already out, it will be VERY soon).
Peter Lasne
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From: LEE WINSOR Number: 3536
To: CHRIS WOOD Date: 09/19/93 7:27p
Subj: Shareware Explorer Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Chris,
-> in Qedit. Also the only way to find out the file area names was to
-> use the ACCESS.EXE file browsing util that came with it. It made it a
-> tad more annoying to set up the filearea.ctl entries.
Actually, if you go into the \Sysops\pcboard subdirectory, the file
named 'DIR00ASC' has a list of all the file area names. I'm afraid I
neglected to include a copy of this file in the directories for other
BBS types.
For your benefit as well as other Sysops who purchase the Shareware
Explorer, there is another glitch that we were just informed of.
On DOS Explorer Volumes #1 & #3, (but not on the other volumes),
the FILES.BBS for directory \A036 is duplicated in directory \A037.
This error may be corrected in one of the following ways:
1) The file 'DIR37' in the \sysops\pcboard subdirectory may be
converted to files.bbs format via one of the included conversion
peograms for your bbs type.
2) You may call our support BBS at (203) 738-0342 and download the file
'XPLR_FIX.ZIP' (size=9k) which contains corrected files.bbs entries.
Sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused, but it seems no matter
how hard you try, 'Murphy' always gets the last laugh.... <g>.
\-Lee-/
New Frontiers CD-ROMS
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From: ADAM GOODE Number: 3537
To: TIM CANFIELD Date: 09/19/93 3:26p
Subj: Re: Kings Quest 6 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TC> Hey anyone have KQ6 on CD-Rom?
TC> I have it and am playing it, but I am stuck and am wondering if
TC> anyone else has a clue?
1>> Can't pass the boiling water.
2>> Can't seem to get into the castle... (tried 3 times, restarted 3 that
TC> is)
TC> Leave me a note - if ya can help -
TC> Candid Kid
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TC> 16.8k (1:282/85)
1) Get an Iceberg lettuce from the Isle O' Wonder and plop in the the
water. That should cool it off! (But hurry, or else the lettuce will
melt!)
ADAM GOODE
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From: ADAM GOODE Number: 3538
To: ADAM EDWARDS Date: 09/19/93 3:26p
Subj: Re: 16-Bit Sound Cards Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AE> Hi,
DP>> 16-bit card. Would a 16-bit sound card make games written for an
DP>> 8-bit card sound better?
AE> Nope.
AE>
DP>> Does anyone have any opinions on which 16-bit sound card will
DP>> become the standard? The Pro Audio Spectrum 16 was the first 16-
DP>> bit sound card but the Sound Blaster 16 has the advantage of the
DP>> 8-bit SB being the previous standard.
AE> 16bit cards are only good for recording and playing back 16bit
AE> digital voices. There aren't currently any games (except maybe
AE> 7th guest) that have 16bit sound (voices) on them. They take up
AE> too much space.
DP>> Does anyone know exactly what the difference is between the Sound
DP>> Blaster 16 and the ASP version? What is the difference between
DP>> the Pro Audio Spectrum and Studio?
AE> The ASP is a processor that enable compression and manipulation
AE> of Sound. Good for voice recognition and storage of large sound
AE> bytes but not much else.
AE>
DP>> He found a review of the Pro Audio Spectrum 16 that said that to
DP>> make it Sound Blaster compatible you have to run a driver
DP>> program. Does anyone know how big this driver is and if it
DP>> can be loaded high? Thank you in advance for all replies.
AE>
AE> don't know much about the new PAS16 series sorry.
AE> See ya Adam
AE> ---
AE> * Origin: (2:254/4)
For the PAS16, you don't need the driver program. Except maybe
MVSOUND.SYS. This comes with the card and doesn't take much memory. The
PAS16 directly emulates the Sound Blaster. It's like haveing two cards
in one! The old PAS (8-bit) required software emulation of the Sound
Blaster. This type wasn't too good.
ADAM GOODE
... No, Taco Bell is NOT the Mexican telephone company!
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From: BOB DUNN Number: 3539
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/19/93 10:35p
Subj: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AS> If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please lea
AS> mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
Bob Dunn
51 Hubbell Ave
Ansonia, CT 06401-1329
Thanks
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From: DONALD NELSON Number: 3540
To: ALL Date: 09/20/93 6:57p
Subj: HELP!!!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
does anyone know how to connect a mitsumi cd-rom drive model CRMC to a sound
blaster pro. i need to hook up the cd interface not the audio.
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From: BARRY SHIPLEY Number: 3541
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/20/93 4:02p
Subj: CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Boris:
I've seen many posts on the board from you. Can you answer a couple of
technical questions:
1. Is there a quad-speed system coming out in the next few months?
2. Does the Pioneer 604X plan to upgrade?
3. Is the Pioneer kodak CD compatible?
4. Will the Pioneer work with a PAS-16?
5. Are there any other multi-drive systems on the market?
6. Can you send a catalog?
1221 Clover Ridge Court
Rapid City, SD 57701-2117
More than a couple of questions, but thanks in advance for the help.
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From: BARRY SHIPLEY Number: 3542
To: SIMON MACKAY Date: 09/20/93 4:02p
Subj: Government Laws on CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Simon was overheard saying:
SM>>Do you know of any legislatures who are planning on starting schemes
where
SM>>they put any Acts (laws that have been passed and are in force), Codes
and
SM>>Regulations on CD-ROM discs, making these laws available for public
SM>>browsing at their public libraries, or for sale / hire to interested
SM>>citizens e.g. lawyers and students.
Just read about a new service that puts court cases on CD-ROM. It allows
for easy searches of related cases. The example was given of a lawyer who
spent half a day finding a precedent. Using the CD-ROM she found it and
two others (one better than the one she found) in 10-15 minutes. I guess
it is only a matter of time.
I also read that the Social Security Admin put their code on CD-ROM and it
almost brought the organization down because it pointed out the
contradictions in the rules. I'd like to see it on the tax laws!
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From: BARRY SHIPLEY Number: 3543
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/20/93 4:02p
Subj: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-16-93 09:08 Adrian Salas was heard to say:
AS>>***************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION ****************
AS>>If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave
your
AS>>mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
Please send me a copy:
1221 Clover Ridge Court
Rapid City, SD 57701-2117
Thanks.
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 3544
To: SHAWN FULLER Date: 09/21/93 8:27a
Subj: Re: Cdrom Systems Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LR> SF> I understand the 604X is faster, is that all the difference?
LR>
LR> No, it is SCSI-2, and does Multi-session photo-CD, as well
LR> as play audio CD's.
SF> By multi-session does that mean each CD is ready to read, so the CD Drive
SF> dosn't have to change to another cd? (6 CD Players in the one machine?)
No, it means that one can go get multiple sets of pictures written to
the CD, and the drive can read them all. Not all CD-ROM drives can do this.
Access to different discs in the caddy are sequential with a significant
loading time, not simultaneous.
Les
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From: MIKE SMITH Number: 3545
To: ROBERTO REYES Date: 09/22/93 12:48a
Subj: Cd-Rom Disk Cache Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RR>CW:>Doug Schwantes wrote in a message to All:
RR>CW:>DS> Does anyone out there know of a good disk cache for a
RR>CW:>DS> CD-ROM?
RR>CW:>Norton Speedcache 4.0+ will do the job nicely for you. Otherwise
RR>CW:>you could always buy OS/2 2.1 GA, it has built in CDROM drive
RR>caching of course..<g>.
RR>CW:>Cheers...
RR>CW:>Chris - Team OS/2 - Internet: cwood@hpb.hwc.ca
RR>The Mitsumi CD-ROM Works with OS/2 2.1
RR>you don't need special drivers?
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RR>(4:971/1)
Yes, the Mitsumi needs a driver for OS/2 and The Norton Speedrv+ 4.07
(not The Norton Speedcache+ 4.0 (NEW VERSION)) works great.
Mike Smith
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3546
To: RODOLFO VAZ Date: 09/22/93 12:56a
Subj: Re: DR. CD Collection Refer: NONE
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BO>> nor offer any price comparisions. It will strickly be so our friends in
BO>> Canada will be able to place an order without any international long
BO>> distance costs.
>> OH God ... We (Brazilians) don't have this benefit :(((
>> Hi Boris,
>> did you get my NETMAIL ? Well, I've got your NETMAILs
>> (both), but I was on a trip (working in Sao Paulo), so
>> I just sent the reply two days later ... O.K. ? I'm waiting
>> for the CDs ... Oh, if possible, send a complete catalog with
>> the CDs, O.K. ?
BO>> Boris Osadciw
>> Thanks for your VERY VERY VERY fast reply !
>> Rodolfo Vaz
Nope a problem, glad we were able to help.....
Hope we'll be hearing from you again real soon....
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3547
To: BENNY FOSTER Date: 09/22/93 12:56a
Subj: Re: CD-Rom Drives Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Anyone know of good sorces for the Panasonic CD-Rom drives
>> (CR-562)? I am looking for aprox 10-20 at a time. I am also
>> always looking for new and good sorces for CD-Rom disks. Any
>> help would be appreciated.
Give us a call and maybe we can help you out as we do sell the
Panasonic units complete with interface for only $250.
You can reach us at 216-225-3263 anytime 7 days a week.
Hope this helps...
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3548
To: DAVID RICE Date: 09/22/93 12:56a
Subj: Re: GIFs Refer: NONE
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>> Hello All!
>> Does anyone know where I can get the "GIFs Galore" CD. I have
>> been looking everwhere localy and no one has it. Please give
>> me pricing on it too if you can. Thanks in advance.
Give us a call David at 216-225-3263 anytime 7 days a week and I know
we can help as we do have the above in stock for $20.
Hope this helps....
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3549
To: SOPH PETROU Date: 09/22/93 12:56a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi CD ROM Refer: NONE
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>> Hi All,
>> Does anybody know if 2 Mitsumi cd roms can be daisy
>> chained off a SOUND GALAXY NXPRO?
>> THANX IN ADVANCE, SOPH.......
Nope !!! You need one controller per unit !!
Hope this helps....
Boris Osadciw
... Happy as a Pig in Mud!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3550
To: ALL Date: 09/22/93 12:56a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
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**************** C D - R O M D R I V E P R I C E S ****************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit - $359.00 Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00 - SCSI
Panasonic 562 Int Kit - $249.00 Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SCSI
Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $799.00 Pioneer DMR604X Bare - $1199. -SCSI
Texel Int 245ms Bare Dr - $369.00 Texel Ext 245ms Bare - $469.00 -SCSI
Texel Int Complete Kit - $469.00 Texel Ext Complete - $569.00 -SCSI
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare - $399.00 Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare- $499.00 -SCSI
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit - $195.00 Mitsumi w/Sound Card - $325.00 -PRPR
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. / Windows v1. $50. ALL ChestNuts CD's $11.00ec
ORDER'S ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... Simply more bang for your bucks!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3551
To: ALL Date: 09/22/93 12:57a
Subj: RED HOT Refer: NONE
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$$$$$$$ R E D H O T C D' S A T R E D H O T P R I C E S $$$$$$$
POWERBOX OR WINDOWS - $20 COMPTONS ENCYC UPGRADE - $95.
GAME OR SOUNDWARE - $25. ALL CHESTNUT TITLES - $12.
HACKER CHRONICAL - $18. JOKES/PRANKS - 1001 UTIL - $10.
NIGHT OWL 9.0 - $25. KINGS QUEST VI - $47.
SO-MUCH-SHAREWARE 3 - $29. TOOLWORKS ENCYC DOS/WIN - $49.
SHAREWARE EXPLORER - $59. 9000 SOUNDS - $25.
SOFTWARE VAULT 2 - $20. 5 STAR PREM DOS/WIN - $29.
DR.CD COLLECTION - 4 CD'S - $55. PC KARAOKE W/MICROPHONE - $89.
ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3552
To: ALL Date: 09/22/93 12:57a
Subj: PANASONIC CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
)))))))))))))))))) P A N A S O N I C 5 6 2 ((((((((((((((((((((
The ALL NEW Panosonic 562 is here and ready for delievery!!
340ms access time / 300kps transfer rate
Multi-Spin / SB Compatiable / with Interface
Complete Ready To Run - Price - $249.00
FREE C.C.I T-Shirt With Order
500+ CDROM Tiltes To Select From
ORDER'S ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517
TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3553
To: DALE A COOK Date: 09/22/93 1:57a
Subj: Re: SOUNDBLASTER CD-ROM DRIVE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Does anyone out there have a soundblaster compatible cd-rom
>> for sale?
Yep, the new Panasonic 562b internal for $249.00 !
Intertested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 and we'll be happy to
assist you further.
Boris Osadciw
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From: DAVID ADKINS Number: 3554
To: DENIS COLEMAN Date: 09/17/93 9:00a
Subj: CD's in Australia Refer: NONE
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-> Hi,
->
-> If any Australian Residents would like a free Mail order catalogu
-> please write to me at
->
I did and got no response
regards
David
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 3555
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/20/93 11:15a
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
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GP>So why don't audio CD owners love caddies too?
Simple... Record companies sell a CD every time someone scratches their
favourite Barry Manilow disc. Record companies have a LOT of muscle with
media development, as CD's were jointly developed by Philips and Sony,
Sony being the owner of CBS I beleive.
Secondly, how many Audio CD's are worth hundreds of bucks. Who would use
a $1000 CDROM disk without the protection of a caddy?
Caddyless drives are fine for small time home users with an inexpensive
collection of ROMs. For a business or bigtime user, with a large
investment in expensive CDROMs caddies are essential.
The Creative kits are targetted at home/game users, look at the CDrom
drives installed in Libraries, Corporations etc. They don't have the 7th
Guest in them, they have expensive database disks, so they use caddy
drives.
Now can we all stop this quasi-religious caddy debate?
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From: TONY STOTT Number: 3556
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/21/93 7:58a
Subj: Caddy Bullsh*t Refer: NONE
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On 09-17-93, Leslie Rhorer elucidated to Brice Fleckenstein:
LR> BF> >It is utter foolishness to do otherwise. The
LR> BF> extra $$$ are trivial
LR> The extra $$$ adds up in a HURRY, and the cost of the ROMs
LR> themselves are getting to the point that the damn caddies add
LR> 50% to the cost
Here's an idea, let's discuss Arabs vs. Jews, or Clinton vs. Bush,
or Windows vs. OS/2 or ANYTHING else which involves less emotion
than the hugely important issue of whether caddies are good or not...
Please, WHO CARES?!!
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From: SHAWN FULLER Number: 3557
To: RUSSELL HARDIE Date: 09/20/93 6:42a
Subj: Re: Cdrom Systems Refer: NONE
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RH> Hi Shawn,
RH>
RH> I have one of these Pioneer DRM604X's.. And they're GREAT!
RH>
RH> But, no, multisession does not mean that. It's a term associated
RH> with Kodak Photo CD, which essentially means you can add photos to
RH> your photo CDs, and the drive can still read the subsequent
RH> "sessions".
RH>
RH> It is still a 6-disc "changer" meaning it swaps the discs over when
RH> it is accessed. It takes about 5 seconds max to do this, I think it
RH> is. Usually much quicker, though.
What type of machine are you running it on?? I would presume it is an IBM.
Cheers ... Shawn
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From: DAVID BENFELL Number: 3558
To: DAVID POMEROY Date: 09/19/93 9:22p
Subj: cd-roms Refer: NONE
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-> AUS $20, NZ $30 etc), I'd appreciate your views. If we can get a
-> group underway, perhaps it would put us in a good bargaining position
-> with CD-ROM suppliers - thus lowering the price for everyone. EMAIL
-> me with your ideas!!!!
Hi David. I'm quite keen on the idea. I use CD-ROMs quite a lot, am
from Wellington and also am a CD-ROM distributor in New Zealand so am
quite keen on such a scheme.
We would be happy to come to an arrangement to provide discounts to club
members.
You can e-mail me at 3:771/350 to discuss this further.
Cheers
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From: DAVID BENFELL Number: 3559
To: ALL Date: 09/19/93 9:25p
Subj: CD-ROMS Available from Ne Refer: NONE
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@SUBJECT:CD-ROMS Available from New Zealand N
Hi,
If any New Zealand and Australian Residents would like a free Mail order
catalogue of our extensive range of CD-ROM titles please contact me at any of
the following addresses:
PC Junction (NZ)
P.O Box 5197
Wellington
New Zealand
E-mail: 3:771/350 or UseNet at david.benfell@stargate.actrix.gen.nz
Phone: Voice +64 4 566-3601 and Fax + 64 4 471-1941
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3560
To: CHRIS MOORE Date: 09/21/93 7:53p
Subj: Cd Benchmarking Software Refer: NONE
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Hi Chris!
On 09-17-93 Chris Moore wrote to Rowan Evans...
CM> I replied to your message way back in July about the CD-ROM
CM> benchmarking software, but recently found that some of my
CM> echomail has been going into a black hole somewhere.
We had the opposite problem.... some old message packets found their way
back into FICDROM in late August... I had a couple of guys ask why I
re-sent msgs!
CM> RE> CM> I have one on my BBS called CDSPEED.ZIP (about 77K). Feel
CM> RE> CM> free to FREQ it. I don't know how good it is, but it takes
CM> RE> CM> a long time to run and spews out lots of numbers.
CM>
CM> If you want to send me a snail mail address, I'll put a diskette in
CM> the mail. If I may, I'll also send you information about our health
CM> & safety CD-ROMs. (I work for the Canadian Centre for Occupational
CM> Health and Safety). I'd appreciate it if you post the files on your
CM> local BBS (I take it from the name "Medical MAX", that this is a
CM> medically-oriented BBS(?)) and pass the information on to whomever you
CM> think would find it useful.
AlphaMed is a medically oriented BBS.... David's just nice enough to let
others use it too!
Snail Mail address is coming via netmail.... I'll advise David More (SYSOP)
that I'll have some info on Health & Safety CD-ROMs for him shortly? <g>
Are they available to be set up on the BBS for browsing, etc?? He'll
probably ask!
Cheers & Beers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3561
To: MALCOLM WRIGHT Date: 09/21/93 8:23p
Subj: CR562B CD-ROM Drive...? Refer: NONE
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Hi Mal!
On 09-14-93 Malcolm Wright wrote to All...
MW> Can anyone here tell me where I can get a Panasonic Cr-562-b Cd-Rom
MW> drive here in Western Australia?
Try your local Osborne Computers (Australia) dealer! They resell the
CR562B and paddle card as their CD-200 kit.
MW> What is the approximate cost I am looking at?
I'd say around $A450.00.... I haven't been able to get their current
price for this kit out of the local salesmen yet!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3562
To: RICK POTTS Date: 09/21/93 8:34p
Subj: Thunder board and toshib Refer: NONE
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Hi Rick!
On 09-18-93 Rick Potts wrote to All...
RP> I've seen various messages here talking about ways to run sound from
RP> CD-ROM's to various sound baords, but I haven't seen anyone talk
RP> specifically about using a Thunder Board with a CD-ROM. I'd like to
RP> buy a CD-ROM (and I'm leaning strongly toward the Toshiba 3401b), but
RP> I really don't want to buy another sound board if I can make it work
RP> with my existing Thunder Board. Can it be done? Or do I have to pull
RP> the Thunder Board and put in something else (like the PAS 16) to make
RP> it work?
What people are normally talking about is connecting the "audio out"
connector at back of the CD-ROM drive to a three or four pin connector
on the sound card marked "CD In". This connection allows you to hear
music CDs without either plugging an extra set of speakers into the
headphone jack of the CD-ROM drive, or, should their sound card have
an on-board mixer, plugging a cable from the headphone socket of the
CD-ROM drive to the line-in of the sound card.
If the ThunderBoard supports either of these options, you've got no
hassles... Otherwise, dump the ThunderBoard for a sound card with
built-in CD-ROM interface (SB Pro/16/16 ASP - PAS 16 - SG NX Pro)....
Hope this helps!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3563
To: KURT LARSEN Date: 09/21/93 8:42p
Subj: Cd-Rom Refer: NONE
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Hi Kurt!
On 09-18-93 Kurt Larsen wrote to All...
KL> I have a SoundBlaster 16 ASP card and I have been told that
KL> the only CD-Rom drive compatable with it is a Panasonic
KL> drive. Do you know if this is true?--or could you tell me
KL> how I might find some info on this subject.
There is a version of the SB Pro that reportedly has a SONY CDU-31A
interface, but all SoundBlasters I have seen use the Panasonic interface!
The SB 16 ASP is compatible with either the Panasonic CR52x series
(150Kbps) or CR56x series (300Kbps) CD-ROM drives.
Your best bet is to look for a Panasonic CR562B CD-ROM drive... Any of
the dealers in this echo will sell you one!
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3564
To: CHRISTIAN BUHL Date: 09/21/93 8:47p
Subj: Good deal? Refer: NONE
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Hi Christian!
On 09-19-93 Christian Buhl wrote to All...
CB> I can get a new CD-ROM (internal, 150KBS, 390ms) with three programs
CB> (An Encyclopedia, An Atlas, and 1000 sound effects) and a sound card
CB> (Adlib/SB/Windows compatible) for 249.90 plus S&H (15.00) Is this a
CB> good deal? I already have a sound blaster (pro) but have found someone
CB> who will buy it for $80.
CB>
CB> Or I could get a Mitsumi 300ms drive (I dont know the KBS, probably
CB> 300) for $210 (internal)
You haven't specified any model numbers, but the latest Mitsumi I've
heard of is the LU005, which is only 150Kbps....
Can you stretch to $US249.00 for the Panasonic CR562B?? I think that's
what Boris Osadiciw advertised it for the other day...... It'll connect
straight into your SB Pro, no need to muck around pulling cables apart
to get the CD Audio sound to work properly!
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: QUINN LARKIN Number: 3565
To: DAVID POMEROY Date: 09/20/93 12:03p
Subj: Re: cd-roms Refer: NONE
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>Hi! Is anyone there interested in joining a New Zealand or possibly
>Australasian CD-ROM users group..... I'm very tempted to set one up, as it
>is badly needed for us down under users. If you think if would be a good
>idea, and you'd be interested in joining at a later stage, leave me a
>message.
Count me in - Sounds like a *very* good idea... If ya need any help setting it
up just give me a yell :)
-Quinn Larkin-
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From: DAVID POMEROY Number: 3566
To: DAVID BENFELL Date: 09/21/93 6:36a
Subj: CD-ROM GROUP Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi David! Thanks for your reply... At this point in time I'm simply printing
all of the messages I'm receiving and storing them in a file for later use
(although I am emailing people to let them know that I've read their messages
first!). However, I'm very interested in your comments re being a CD-ROM
distributor. What titles do you currently distribute? And what sort of
discount level would you consider appropriate to club members (all I need is a
ballpark figure at the moment...)?
Look forward to hearing from you!
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From: DAVID BENFELL Number: 3567
To: EDWARD BLACK Date: 09/20/93 11:04p
Subj: CD PRE-ORDERS Refer: NONE
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-> Being a novice to this bbsing, and living in New Zealand I wondered
-> if your services reach as far as we are south. If so, I would
-> appreciate any information you can give me on purchasing some of your
-> products. Regards
Hi Edward. I will send you out a CD-ROM price list as I can now supply
CD's just as cheap in most cases as importing them yourselves. My
prices have dropped about 20-30% since the last list I gave you.
Cheers
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From: RUSSELL HARDIE Number: 3568
To: SHAWN FULLER Date: 09/21/93 8:41a
Subj: Re: Cdrom Systems Refer: NONE
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SF> What type of machine are you running it on?? I would presume it is an
SF> IBM.
Yes, it is a SCSI-2 unit, so you just connect it to an external SCSI adaptor.
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From: RUSSELL HARDIE Number: 3569
To: ALL Date: 09/21/93 9:29p
Subj: CD-ROM Duplicate Analyzer Refer: NONE
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I recently saw someone post a message which was a duplicate files table between
many popular CD-ROMs.
It used a program referred to as "Bob Neal's CD-ROM Duplicate Analyzer v1.0"
Does anyone know the filename of that program? I would love to get hold of it.
Even better, do you know if it is on any of the following discs:
Monster Disc II, Night Owl 7, Night Owl 9, Software Vault 2, Software Vault
Gold, Cream of the Crop, Shareware Studio Volume II, Dr.Shareware, So Much
Shareware 2, So Much Shareware 3, Pier 1, Pier 2.
If it is on one of the above disks, please let me know which one, and the file
name. I've done a text search on all of them, but I can't seem to find it
anywhere.
Thanks for your help!!!
P.S. In case you can't follow this, I'm after a program that will tell me the
% of duplicate files between all of my shareware CD-ROMs.
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From: ALAN WHITEMORE Number: 3570
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/20/93 10:46a
Subj: Government Laws on CD Refer: NONE
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Hello Rowan!
15 Sep 93 20:28, Rowan Evans wrote to Simon Mackay:
SM>> Do you know of any legislatures who are planning on starting schemes
SM>> where they put any Acts (laws that have been passed and are in force),
SM>> Codes and Regulations on CD-ROM discs, making these laws available for
SM>> public browsing at their public libraries, or for sale / hire to
SM>> interested citizens e.g. lawyers and students.
RE> Barrister mate (well I kenw him when he was a uni student - how was I to
RE> know what he'd turn into! <g>) has been earbashing me about a couple of
RE> CD-ROMs he's seen with case law on them (Family Law, etc).... Don't
RE> know if this is the sort of thing you're looking for....
RE> BTW, the cost of these CD-ROMs was extortionate.... $A4,000.00 or so....
It would only work out to 4k if more than one title was ordered. Case law
for your state covering 1971-1992 can be purchased for 750-1100 dollars.
"Unreported judgments" costs $2400, which is not unreasonable when you
consider that it covers all states and is updated quarterly.
Of course if you wanted to go the whole hog and order all state's case
law, unreported judgments and the states legislation series, it may end
up costing over 14K. I imagine only the Attorney Generals department
would have the budget and need for that amount of law information though,
Regards, Alan
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From: STEPHEN RANSON Number: 3571
To: TOM BULUM Date: 09/21/93 7:00a
Subj: Aus. 562B Distributor? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message to Poe Lim on 09-15-93, TOM BULUM said>>
TB> ^^^^^
TB>Hiya Poe,
TB> whereabouts can I get this for this price? Eagerly awaiting
reply.
TB>
Tom, the Australian CD-ROM Club here in Canberra has the CR562B, and
just for you we will sell it at $450. Call us on 2915258 anytime.
Stephen Ranson
Australian CD-ROM Club
Voice (008)811190, Fax (06)2914591
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From: LAURIE BATT Number: 3572
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/20/93 11:22a
Subj: CD-ROM questions Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
G'day Rowan, In a message on <Sep 18>, you said :
RE>
RE> Sunny Sydney....... I take it from your lagline that
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
RE> you're in California?
RE>
Sunny ?? You gotta be Joking, right ?? <G>
Laurie
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 3573
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 09/20/93 5:39p
Subj: Pro Audio Studio 16XL Refer: NONE
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HP>-> Don't forget the Diamond Sonic Card, which includes wave table syn
HP>-> the same price as an SB PRO 16 ASP! (I have the SBPRO16ASP, and w
HP>-> held off a few weeks until the Diamond came out...)
HP>Who makes the Diamond Sonic card?
My guess would be Diamond.
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 3574
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/20/93 5:43p
Subj: NEW FIREARMS CD! Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
MS> | Title: FIREARMS REFERENCE Price: $30 |
MS>
MS> * Features over 600 products from 70 different manufacturers
MS> * 256-color hi-rez images * BBS-Ready in several formats
MS> * Custom-designed Super-VGA interface
MS> * Covers every firearm from black powder rifles, to Class 3 weap
As we Aussies say... Only in America.
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 3575
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/20/93 9:36p
Subj: PANASONIC CR562B Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BF>>Point #1 - If you take reasonable care of your equipment you are UN
BF>>damage a CD disk.
BF>
BF>I'm a good example - 10+ years using CDs, and I've NEVER damaged one
BF>exception that I took a hammer to!).
BF>
BF>>CDs are on the other hand durable enough that some music
BF>>stores purchase and sell used ones.
Point #439, I have a Nautilus CD with DATA and Audio tracks on it,
which was damaged in the mail, it has fine scratches randomly across
the entire disk surface. The Audio track sounds (apparently) fine,
whilst the data track will not be logged by DOS, ie drive is not
recognised.
POINT, a few missing "bits" on a CD audio track will make no difference
since you can't hear each individual sample, because there are 44100
samples every second.
On a data track however, a single missing or unreadable bit/byte could
be crucial to the execution of a program, or could render the disk
unloggable by DOS.
You have to take a lot more caution with CDroms, than your Barry Manilow
disks. On another point, I saw a Medical CDrom advertised the other day
worth $1500AUS, how many Audio cd's are that valuable? And if they are
they are collectors items and belong in a frame on your wall :-)
I use a media/research program called Proquest at a campus Library, it
is a collection of print media articles. It is a CDrom system, with one
Master disk, containing the ASCII text of all articles, and about 40
other disks containing actual scans of the articles, including pictures.
When you find the relevant article, if you want the full scanned
article, the program tells you to load disk number 23 or whatever. You
then open the drawer, and there are 40 disks in labelled caddies, so you
just grab the caddy and slam it into the drive. There is no way known
that the Library is going to use a caddyless system with grubby
students, holding a bag of cheese doritos in one hand and a can of Pepsi
in the other, and a runny nose in between, handling the actual disks :-)
Also on these machines, the CDrom drives are installed vertically, a bit
of a problem for tray loaders.
Both systems have their merits, with tray loading better for home audio
enthusiasts, and non mission-critical home pc users, and caddy loading
better for more intensive, or high swap rate applications, particularly
when disk protection is at a premium. (After all, 3.5" floppies are more
durable than 5.25", because they are effectively in a caddy).
Cheers.
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From: DEAN MACKIN Number: 3576
To: AL KOLLER Date: 09/21/93 10:08p
Subj: Pioneer DRM 600 problem Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AK>Hello. Need a little tech help with a new DRM 600. It will not look at
AK>my Future Domain TMC 845 controller and I have no idea why. I have
AK>tried shifting the memory location but to no avail. Anyone with
AK>suggestions about what to try/how to best troubleshoot? I thought this
AK>would be "plug and play" but so far, nothing doing! Thanks.
As it says in the manual it may be conflicting with your 1 meg VGA Card. Try
setting the VGA card to 8 bit and see if this helps. If you have Manifest, run
it and set the excludes shown. If that doesn't work and you run Qemm, try the
ROM option. If that doesn't work, change the SCSI ID on the back of the Drive
and make sure you chose the correct driver. I use an Adaptec 1542C and it was a
simple plug and play situation and that was with several other SCSI devices.
Also, make sure that you have the Cards scsi termination set to allow for
external devices and either enable the termination on the DRM or disable it and
plug in an external SCSI terminator. My advice would be to go and get the 1542C
Adaptec controller to make the most of the Drive.
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║Regards -= Dino =-║
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From: DEAN MACKIN Number: 3577
To: MARK CROSBIE Date: 09/21/93 10:17p
Subj: Pioneer 6 pack Refer: NONE
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MC>What I am looking for is pricing and a supplier, and problems that I
MC>could have I run 2 nodes on a 486/25 with DESQview.
I run 8 nodes under it and get MASSIVE LOCKUPS for about 2 seconds every time
a disk change takes place and thats's with a 604x. I am not sure how much
slower a 600 would be. There are no lockups when the drm is READING the files,
only when it CHANGES CD's. But I think this is more of a DOS limitation than
one set by the actual
hardware. I have set up a large cd rom cache (to hd) but this doesn't stop the
problem, it just makes it less frequent.
Can anybody tell me, would their be lockups on a SLAVE computer (running DV)
on a network when the SERVER accesses a drm connect to itself? I have not tried
this and would like some feedback. I am not real sure if DV will run on a
network anyway. Anyway help greatly appreciated.
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From: RICK ASHWORTH Number: 3578
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/21/93 6:15p
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Gordon!
12 Sep 93, Gordon Peterson writes to Roger Smith:
RS>> Caddies are only about $5 each. Surely, that's not much to protect a
RS>> CDROM that can cost much more.
GP> So why don't audio CD owners love caddies too?
1) Bad original design spec.
2) CD libraries much more extensive, and audio cd prices are MUCH cheaper than
data CD's over the long haul.
It's hard to justify protect my $5.96 Barry Manilow's greatest hits, but not
hard at all on my Delorme Mapping, or Groliers, Dino Adventure, 7th Guest.. ad
nauseum.. I have about 35 CDROMs here all in their own caddies. I also have
caddyless on my bbs, and the dust problem is extensive on them, never a problem
with the ones in the caddies.
Rick
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From: DON SHORTRIDGE Number: 3579
To: SYSOP Date: 09/19/93 8:13p
Subj: BBS Listing Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Whould please add a new BBS to your list? Name: SECURE BACKUPS Phone Number:
(904)455-2181 SYSOP: Guy Winfrey Runs At: 14400 Location: Pensacola, FL
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From: ROGER SMITH Number: 3580
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/18/93 9:17a
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RS>> Caddies are only about $5 each. Surely, that's not much to protect
RS>> a CDROM that can cost much more.
GP> So why don't audio CD owners love caddies too?
Because the average cost of an audio CD is much less than the average cost of a
CDROM.
-- Roger
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From: ROGER SMITH Number: 3581
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/18/93 9:18a
Subj: CD CADDIES FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
EF>> I have EIGHT CD-CADDIES for sale.
EF>> $25.00 - shipping INCLUDED in USA (went "caddy-less")
GP> Congratulations, Ed! Always glad to see another joining the club!
GP> :-)))
I didn't realize that I had gotten into a religious debate ....
-- Roger
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From: JERRY JOSEPH Number: 3582
To: DON SHORTRIDGE Date: 09/20/93 5:07p
Subj: BBS Listing Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'll advertise yours if you can do the same for me. Dragon's Lair has a max
baud rate of 14400, and is based in Shalimar, Fl. Phone number is
(904)651-1109. Thanks!
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From: DON SHORTRIDGE Number: 3583
To: SYSOP Date: 09/21/93 9:13a
Subj: BBS LISTING Refer: NONE
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I will be more than happy to advertise your BBS on Secure Bacckups BBS. I will
even advertise it on a couple of BBS's that I regulary get on in the San Diego,
CA area.
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From: JON BORTHWICK Number: 3584
To: JERRY JOSEPH Date: 09/20/93 6:25p
Subj: Shareware cd Refer: NONE
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i would like to know where you got your shareware cd and how much it costs
please respond asap
jon borthwick "filago" "borthy"
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From: JERRY JOSEPH Number: 3585
To: JON BORTHWICK Date: 09/21/93 5:57a
Subj: Shareware cd Refer: NONE
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A place called Free Spirit Software for $25. Page 786 of this month's
(October's) Computer Shopper. Phone 1-800-638-5757.
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From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 3586
To: DAVID WILLS Date: 09/21/93 12:21a
Subj: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
David Wills wrote in a message to Scott Davis:
DW> Hmph, it's pretty obvious isn't it? Religious activists
DW> and moral do-gooders have once again used their collective
DW> might to knuckle under another "public forum". Or should I
DW> say, "censored public forum" now?
Perhaps they are equally as nauseated by your "taste" as you are
nauseated by theirs? Should they be free from "censorship" to
subject you to (or should I say "cram") their ideas in front of
your face every way you turn? Since 1963 you have been successful
in "censoring" their freedom in schools and other places. Some
people enjoy their relationship with God. Why don't you leave
them alone? I seriously doubt if any of them care if you look at
porn and play with yourself. After all... you really aren't
having difficulty finding any are you? If you have been following
this conference you would have seen a bunch of messages telling
you were you could find it.
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From: SAM BECKWITH Number: 3587
To: MARCILIO BARBOSA Date: 09/21/93 12:50p
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MB>I'm interested in these CD-ROM above. Would charge my VISA card? I live
MB>in Brazil.
MB>Thanks,
MB> Marcilio Barbosa
Marcilio,
I am sorry, at this time we are not setup to ship outside the U.S.
Thanks for your interest.
Sam
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From: JOOP STOKVIS Number: 3588
To: CHRIS CONKLIN Date: 09/17/93 2:29p
Subj: MACINTOSH TITLES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Chris!
I'am always interested in (shareware) CDroms... Please send me information or
catalog:
Joop Stokvis
c/o BBS Waterland
PObox 1196
1440 BD Purmerend
The Netherlands
Thanks in advance!
Joop
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From: NADEEM FAIZI Number: 3589
To: ALL Date: 09/16/93 8:15p
Subj: CD Software !! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have the following CD titles for the PC for sale:-
1. Toolworks Reference Library
2. World Atlas v2.0
3. Anecdote Volume I
4. Wing Commander/Ultima VI
5. Clipart Goliath
If you need some further info or need to contact me then ring:-
081-560-2480 (evenings 6pm - 10pm)
Sensible offers please...... Thanks.........
/\/ads
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From: STEPHAN FORSEILLES Number: 3590
To: KEN CHAN Date: 09/16/93 7:46p
Subj: mail order Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Have anyone tried mail ordering cd-rom disks?
> What is the procedure and most of all, can you trust
> them?
I mail ordered to MISSION CONTROL and e-mail ordered to WALNUT CREEK (both
in USA, ads seen in COMPUTER SHOPPER) and everithing came without any problem.
Stephan.
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From: ALEJANDRO RODRIGUEZ HEREDERO Number: 3591
To: ROBERTO REYES Date: 09/19/93 11:04a
Subj: Compras. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Que te parece el The 7th Guest
> Dejame un mail por aqui y dime de donde hablas...
> * Origin: Creaturas de la Noche *IDS* [Monterrey
> México] (4:971/1)
Hola Roberto.
Te vas a quedar un poco frio, pero te llamo desde España, al otro lado del
charco. Mi direccion de nodo es 2:341/12.5 de la BBS CORBEN en Madrid.
Contestando a si estoy interesado en el "The 7th Guest", claro que si, lo que
pasa es que no se como vamos a hacer las cosas.
Por cierto, hace poco que me case, y estuve en Mexico, tipico sitio CANCUN, no
estubo mal, pero dime tu opinion ¿No es todo lo que se ve un poco distinto de
la realidad?.
Tambien fui a COZUMEL, por cierto un lugar precioso, pero como no sabia nada de
Mexico, lo hice mal. Me pase mas tiempo en CANCUN que en COZUMEL. ¿Conoces
COZUMEL o a alguien de alli?.
Saludos.
Alex.
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From: ALEJANDRO RODRIGUEZ HEREDERO Number: 3592
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/19/93 11:17a
Subj: Compras. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Hola Alex,
> Yo te puedo ofrecer CD's a buen precio y mandartelos
> al D.F, o donde
> sea, si estas interesado, dejame tu direcion y yo te
> puedo mandar una
> lista de pecios.
Hola Adrian.
Mi direccion esta en Madrid (España (un poco lejos ¿No?)).
Mejor dejame una pequeña lista de precios de CD's, por el mail,aunque
si estas interesado en mandarla por correo, te dejo mi direccion:
Alejandro Rodriguez Heredero.
C/ Valdivieso Nº 7.
Piso 1º H.
Madrid 28023
España
Por cierto, ¿De donde llamas?.
Saludos.
Alex.
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From: JOOP STOKVIS Number: 3593
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 09/18/93 2:54p
Subj: MAIL ORDER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi!
Please send information and caralog to:
Joop Stokvis
c/o BBS Waterland
PObos 1196
1440 BD Purmerend
The Netherlands
Groeten!
Joop
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From: JEFF HUBERT Number: 3594
To: JOSEPH THOMAS Date: 09/21/93 4:02p
Subj: Os/2 mitsumi driver Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Your wrong, the 1.04 beta driver (german ) does work without setting
the date back on your computer! It just doesn't support mmpm/2 or
cd-audio.
Which is better the german os/2 driver or the MIT one?
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From: ED DUCHEK Number: 3595
To: WILLIAM SCHNEIDER, JR. Date: 09/20/93 7:24p
Subj: OS/2 CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
William,
Answering a msg of <16 Sep 93>, from William Schneider, Jr. to All:
I have os/2 arcive cd rom, I didn't care for os/2, like windows better, so now
I have the CD Rom disk. Will trade for another title, clipart or adult
prefered, but games probably ok, or even cash.
Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069
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From: ERIC ESKAM Number: 3596
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/21/93 9:06a
Subj: Re: Os/2 Cd-Rom Support Refer: NONE
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LR> True. When I say "stay", I mean of course, "stay
LR>away from non-SCSI devices". It is *VERY* expensive to
LR>dump what one already has and upgrade to SCSI. Buying SCSI
LR>initially is not as large a hit, especially when one does
LR>not have to buy an additional hard drive controller.
you don't have to "dump" what you already have to "upgrade" to SCSI - you could
add a quality SCSI card (many under or around $100) and a good SCSI CD-ROM
drive, and then add a hard drive, tape backup, scanner, etc. later, while the
SCSI co-exists with your existing stuff just fine. I have an IDE and two SCSI
hard drives on one machine, I didn't have to "dump" the IDE....
Eric
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From: ERIC ESKAM Number: 3597
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/21/93 9:08a
Subj: Panasonic Cr-523b Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE> OK, its in the mail on Monday 20/09/93.... Coming AIRMAIL....
Bless you. Any kind of shareware/game/sound/graphics etc. you were looking for
out of the States? Anything non-computer related (I live right next to Las
Vegas)?
Eric
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From: JOHN BENJAMIN Number: 3598
To: CATALINO ALVAREZ Date: 09/21/93 12:51p
Subj: Re: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
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-> Cat here,
-> Love to get one of your catalogs!
->
-> C. Alvarez Jr
-> 348 Chutney Dr
-> Orlando, FL 32825-3612
->
-> Thanx and Read Ya Later,
-> CAT
Sorry but you must've mistaken me for someone else. My company does not
make CD-ROMS. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
John Benjamin - Benjamin Computer Services - 407-689-2326
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From: RHEZA JINA Number: 3599
To: ALL DEALERS Date: 09/16/93 5:56p
Subj: Dealer pricing Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I intend to distribute CD-ROM disks in France (and maybe other European
countries) so I ask all vendors to send me their dealer pricing or
bulk quantities discount if available.
My address : Rheza JINA
58, Bd Voltaire
92600 ASNIERES
FRANCE
... Hope to hear from you soon.
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From: JEAN-HUGUES ROYER Number: 3600
To: ALL Date: 09/19/93 3:14a
Subj: Bible related cds Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'd like to know if someone knows a Bible related CD with a french
translation ?
thanks...
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 3601
To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Date: 09/18/93 11:35a
Subj: Caddy-o-rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
IA>> BJ>hold 18 CD's in 3 magazines. Supposed to be out in November with a
IA>> BJ>list about $3000.
IA>> That is an OUTRAGEOUS ripoff. It is basically just the same drive, but
IA>> with two more magazines added... it _can't_ cost them $10 more to build
IA>> it.
IA>Yes, you are exactly right. Infact I have the audio version on my stereo
IA>system.
Right! And how much does the audio version of the drive cost?
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 3602
To: TAPANI TUOMINEN Date: 09/18/93 11:37a
Subj: Caddy-o-rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TT>GP> So why don't audio CD owners love caddies too?
TT>Because it is almost impossible to stick a caddy to a caddyless player.
TT>;-) But seriously speaking it is too late to change anything. Philips
If it ain't broken, don't fix it. CDs work JUST FINE without caddies.
Just about the only place where I might agree that caddies are a good
idea and worth the hassle and expense is in a car.
TT>should have implemented CD:s with some sort of protective covering (like
TT>caddy) instead of plain disk when designing the CD-standard.
Why, if that "protective covering" clearly isn't needed?
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 3603
To: TAPANI TUOMINEN Date: 09/18/93 11:47a
Subj: I want caddies Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
[CD-ROM of HP laserjet soft fonts]
TT>GP> Right, but an awful lot of them aren't very valuable here in Europe
TT>GP> because they don't support the European accented characters.
TT>What kind of fonts are you using then?
I rarely need accented characters because I generally only write in
English. :-)
TT>I just checked several of my
TT>fonts for curiosity and all of them worked perfectly well with European
TT>special characters and still they came with US-versions of software
TT>(Designer, Amipro etc.). However the situation might be different with
TT>some TT-fonts from USA, especially if they are either free or shareware as
TT>they are developed for local needs primarily. Those fonts that I have are
TT>almost exclusively Type-1 fonts from Adobe.
A lot of people will strip out the accented characters (if they ever had
them) to reduce the bulk of the fonts. Most Americans, after all, will
NEVER use those accented characters... and in (for example) the case of
HP laserjet soft fonts, you generally load the WHOLE font into the
printer's (limited) memory.
TT>GP> There is one of those on the Too Many Typefonts CD-ROM.
TT>I would like to see this font.
You're welcome to call me and drop by sometime, bring a formatted
diskette (or several) and I'll give you as much as you want. :-)
[true type line drawing fonts]
TT>Maybe I should explain that I need to have copies of DOS-screens (Full
TT>Screen mode under Windows copied to clipboard). Windows converts during
TT>this process OEM-char set to ANSI-set and when the original screen is
TT>reproduced to a Windows-document all the graphics chars. of IBM -char set
TT>are converted to something else.
ARGH! This awful, stupid cr*p of Windows and its non-compatible
character set mapping junk again rears its ugly head. I should have
guessed. :-(((
TT>GP> Right, but the cost of the caddy would then be MORE than the cost of
TT>GP> disc. And besides, you'd be forcing the more astute user who bought
TT>GP> caddyless drive to begin with to buy something that they have absolu
TT>GP> not the slightest use for.
TT>I know. It is just those damned caddyless drives causing this problem. ;-)
There are hundreds of caddyless CD drives in the world for each one that
needs a caddy. If we as a buying public will simply REFUSE to buy
caddy-based drives, we can eliminate this divisive and nonstandard cr*p
from the market. Just as we've gone a long way towards eliminating
copy-protection from mainstream software products.
TT>Whether you like it or not a huge number of players with caddies are
TT>around and there is no indication so far that they were disappearing.
They will become a smaller percentage of the market, if not eventually
disappear completely.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 3604
To: PHIL TREVORROW Date: 09/18/93 11:52a
Subj: Cdroms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PT>GP>There are no read-write CD-ROM systems available yet, to the best of my
PT>GP>knowledge. There are write-once CD-ROM systems, they cost $4-8K.
PT> There are several read/write CDROM systems out. The cheapest sells for und
PT>a grand and can hold 128 megs.
That's magneto-optical, it's NOT CD and is in NO sense compatible with
CDs.
PT>There is another that can hold 600 megs and
PT>another that can hold 1 gig.
Those are _also_ magneto-optical and in no sense compatible with CDs.
CDs use a single, spiral-track and constant linear velocity (they change
the disc speed according to the radial position being read). They are
addressed by minutes, seconds, and whatever, and are single-sided.
MagnetoOptical discs use concentric tracks and constant angular velocity
(like a regular hard disk does) and are addressed by cylinder and sector
number. MO discs are double-sided (but you generally have to
mechanically turn them over (and thus change the direction of
rotation) to get to the second side).
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 3605
To: RON FINDLING Date: 09/18/93 2:31p
Subj: CD-ROM vs. disk versions Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RF>However, it would be interesting if software manufacturers got together
RF>to make CD-ROM *drives* cheap enough so that "everyone" could afford one,
Now that they are under $200, that's ALREADY true.
RF>and then put out their software *only* on CD-ROMs! (Presumably the CD
RF>games would also be made so big that it wouldn't be practical to copy
RF>them to floppies)
You can copy them to one-off CD-ROMs for $35 media cost. But you're
mostly right, if the software cost only about that much, there would be
minimal piracy. :-)
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From: TAPANI TUOMINEN Number: 3606
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/19/93 6:47p
Subj: Caddy-o-rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
A message from Gordon Peterson to Tapani Tuominen on 09-18-93:
GP> TT>should have implemented CD:s with some sort of protective coverin
GP> (like
GP> TT>caddy) instead of plain disk when designing the CD-standard.
GP>
GP> Why, if that "protective covering" clearly isn't needed?
For example to write-protect rewritable CD:s by braking a notch in the
caddy to prevent recording...
Tapani Tuominen
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From: TAPANI TUOMINEN Number: 3607
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/19/93 6:47p
Subj: I want caddies Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
A message from Gordon Peterson to Tapani Tuominen on 09-18-93:
GP> TT>I just checked several of my fonts for curiosity and all of them
GP> worked perfectly well with European special characters and still they
GP> came with US-versions of software
GP> A lot of people will strip out the accented characters (if they ever
GP> them) to reduce the bulk of the fonts. Most Americans, after all, w
GP> NEVER use those accented characters... and in (for example) the case
GP> HP laserjet soft fonts, you generally load the WHOLE font into the
GP> printer's (limited) memory.
How do you strip out certain characters? Even Americans need foreign
characters (for them) once in a while for example when writing some names
of foreign origin.
GP> TT>I would like to see this font.
GP>
GP> You're welcome to call me and drop by sometime, bring a formatted
GP> diskette (or several) and I'll give you as much as you want. :-)
Thank's I'll do that.
GP> TT>this process OEM-char set to ANSI-set and when the original scree
GP> TT>reproduced to a Windows-document all the graphics chars. of IBM -
GP> TT>are converted to something else.
GP>
GP> ARGH! This awful, stupid cr*p of Windows and its non-compatible
GP> character set mapping junk again rears its ugly head. I should have
GP> guessed. :-(((
No, no you got me wrong! It was problem with DOS-characters, everything
works smooth and nicely otherwise under Windows. :-D
GP> There are hundreds of caddyless CD drives in the world for each one
GP> needs a caddy. If we as a buying public will simply REFUSE to buy
GP> caddy-based drives, we can eliminate this divisive and nonstandard c
GP> from the market. Just as we've gone a long way towards eliminating
GP> copy-protection from mainstream software products.
But unfortunately consumers are divided in this question very badly.;-)
Now what kind of campaign could we have against European software
prices...
GP> They will become a smaller percentage of the market, if not eventual
GP> disappear completely.
I saved your message. We can get back on the topic in the year 2000 and
check how much caddies are around.
Tapani Tuominen
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From: CHRIS WOOD Number: 3608
To: LEE WINSOR Date: 09/21/93 12:54p
Subj: Shareware Explorer Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Lee Winsor wrote in a message to Chris Wood:
LW> 2) You may call our support BBS at (203) 738-0342 and
LW> download the file 'XPLR_FIX.ZIP' (size=9k) which contains
LW> corrected files.bbs entries.
Will be callin'. I hope that in the future, Explorer packs you will include
files.bbs that are more like 250 columns, rather than the current 400+. I had
to go find a utility to chop off all the files.bbs files at the 200 column
mark to allow for Maximus 2.01wb to display the file properly preventing a word
wrap which messes up the file listings to users.
LW> Sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused, but it
LW> seems no matter how hard you try, 'Murphy' always gets the
LW> last laugh.... <g>.
Isn't that always the way it is. Thanks Lee, it's great to hear support
straight from the source.
Have a better one...
Chris - Team OS/2 - Internet: cwood@hpb.hwc.ca
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 3609
To: RICHARD VONZEL Date: 09/21/93 3:56p
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVES FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Richard!
20 Sep 93, Richard Vonzel writes to All:
RV> Hello All!
RV> I have 3 Mitsumi 8 bit internal drives for sale. All work great on my
RV> bbs. 150.00 + C.O.D. Contact me here or netmail me at 1:282/3022. I'm
RV> selling them because I'm shuting down my system.
The club in Corpus are interrested in these, do they come with only one
controller? Please call 512-939-9822 if you still have them.
Pat
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From: JOEL WHITE Number: 3610
To: ED YEE Date: 09/18/93 9:20a
Subj: Writable Cd-Rom'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Optical drives are considered to be re-writable cd's. There are
two manufacturers (Sony and some other Japanese company) making
optical drives that use what looks like a cd. They are re-writable
like a hard drive, but about the slowest seek time of anything
made.
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From: ROB LIBRIZZI Number: 3611
To: JERRY MILLIKIN Date: 09/18/93 11:20a
Subj: NEW CD TITLES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Jerry or Lisa
Please send Price List / Catalog to
Rob Librizzi
224 Pinedo Drive
Titusville, Fl 32780
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From: GARY STIMPSON Number: 3612
To: CHRIS DUBOIS Date: 09/19/93 9:26p
Subj: Amiga CD32 Specs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello there!
The CD32 will be about $399 U.S. However, street prices should be lower.
I'm speculating $350 or so. It will be available in limited supply in the
U.S. till the CES in January. Right now they're concentrating more on the
UK/European market, because that's where most Amiga sales come from.
(20,000 units being manufactured a week, sounds like a success!)
Here's more technical specs for you:
- Snipped from Matt Guthrie's WOCA Report from Amiga Report #1.25
Since it's being billed as a games machine, it has to be competitive
with Sega. At it's intro price of #299UK, it's less than the Sega CD
unit, and approximately 15X more performant.
Here are some technical specs:
-- AGA chipset, Motorola 68EC020, 2MB RAM (Chip), 1MB ROM (ADOS 3.1).
-- Sony CD mechanism with C= microcode (2X multisession-capable)
(that means it can read PhotoCD's, but no Kodak license yet :( )
-- 1KB EEPROM for hiscore tables, bookmarks, etc.
-- 4 voice Amiga stereo, 16-bit CD stereo, stereo line out, headphone
jack w/volume control
-- RF out (built-in modulator), composite out, S-Video out (Lew said
that S-Video out gives dramatic video improvement)
-- with the AGA chipset, every pixel can be a different color at
standard TV resolutions. (I suppose that's not the case if you're
using S-Video.)
-- Aux. port with 2 serial ports, compatible with the Amiga keyboard.
Possible add-ons include infrared boxes, virtual reality periphs.
-- Expansion bus in back for 1 card. Contains full CPU bus, full
video bus, full audio bus. (The MPEG card needs all of those.)
-- 2 controller ports, with the capability to daisy-chain 8
controllers per port. That's right. You could have a 16-player
game. BTW, the unit comes with 1 controller. Additional ones
will be sold separately.
Let's talk software. The CD32 will play audio CD's, CD+G CD's, some
CDTV CD's, and Karaoke (aka VideoCD) CD's, in addition to CD32 titles.
One thing he mentioned is that a company is currently putting all of
the classic Star Trek titles on VideoCD for sale next year. (heh heh,
cool, heh heh.)
Regarding the CDTV titles, Lew stated that 130 titles were made for CDTV.
C= researched the 30 most popular titles, and bent over backward to
make sure that those 30 work on CD32. I requested a list from a C=
person; I'll post it when it gets here.
For a change, C= didn't have to pay developers to develop for CD32.
People were so excited about the new platform, they developed on their
own. Lew said that there *will* be 50 titles available by Christmas,
and the actual number will probably be closer to 75. One reason
C= is excited about their prospects for CD32 is production costs.
Cartridge cases cost about $10-$20 each, and since they're burned-in
PROMs, they require a 6-8 week lead time. CD's on the other hand,
cost about $1 each, and need no lead time -- mastering houses can
pump out 20,000 CD's every day. In the final analysis, producing
CD-games costs about 1/2 what producing cartridge games does.
------------------------------
Gary
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From: GARY STIMPSON Number: 3613
To: CHRIS DUBOIS Date: 09/19/93 9:15p
Subj: Amiga CD32 Specs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
- Snipped from Dan Zerkle's WOCA Report from Amiga Report #1.25
Finally, Eggebrecht dropped a few jaws by stating that
Commodore's new factory in the Phillipines is manufacturing
20,000 CD32's per week!
Eggebrecht finished up and introduced John Campbell to give a
demo of CD32.
The demo was a fancy multi-media show put together to impress
developers into producing software for the game console. It had
dinosaurs, Porches, and jets zipping all over the place doing
their thing. The jet launched a missile which a voice-over said
was "blowing away" the competition. It was clearly poking fun at
the other machines. The speed was quite good. This complicated
demo loaded in a few seconds and continued with no glitches.
Campbell also had a CDXL preview of a Jurassic Park video game.
The film clips were pretty good, but the game demo looked
terrible, as though it was ripped off from a Nintendo console.
It probably was. I noticed that one part of the game looked a
lot like Wolfenstein 3D.
At this point, Campbell mentioned that CD32 was good for more
than video games. The audio-visual capabilities, massive CD-ROM
storage, and low price point makes it ideal for kiosk
applications.
Then, Campbell demonstrated the prototype MPEG module by playing
a Bon Jovi video from CD. I was, quite frankly, startled. The
picture quality was excellent--almost indistinguishable from
cable broadcast. It was clearly better than VHS video. The
sound was also excellent. It was very close to audio CD, and
(again) spectacularly better than VHS audio. A single CD can
hold up to 74 minutes of MPEG video, meaning that two of them can
hold a movie, for much less space and price than a VHS tape. The
CD32 can overlay graphics on top of the MPEG picture, so MPEG
video could be used in many applications other than simple
playback. As it was, the unit simply put a small logo in the
corner of the screen.
At this point, Eggebrecht and Dionne opened things up for
questions. Here are some of the interesting answers:
The CD32 hardware is perfectly capable of supporting Kodak's
Photo-CD. However, Phillips and Kodak are partners in a
competing product. Commodore has not been able to get a license
for the technology. Commodore expects to reach an agreement
soon.
The MPEG add-on module uses chips from C-cubed. The price is not
decided yet, but will be less than the Phillips module, which is
expected to be about $250.
The sound from the MPEG disks is standard compressed MPEG sound.
It is like the mini-CD standard.
The software bundle included with CD32 will depend on the
country. It is expected to change with different promotions and
seasons.
All of the software needed to run MPEG disks is included on the
MPEG hardware module. Nothing additional is required to play
MPEG disks.
The US packaging for CD32 will be in English, French, and
Spanish. Apparently, this has nothing at all to do with the
proposed North American Free Trade Agreement.
The motherboard is ready for the A4000T. It should be available
sometime near the end of the year. The MPEG module, on the other
hand, will be available in late November.
Advertising will be in the form of cable television spots and the
usual magazine ads, including video game magazines. Commodore is
thinking of running infomercials!
The regions in which the CD32 will receive its limited launch in
the US this year have not been decided.
The expansion connecter will be able to accept expanded RAM, all
of which will be FAST RAM.
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Gary
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From: ED BAILEY Number: 3614
To: ALL Date: 09/20/93 4:02p
Subj: Mitsumi LU005S Drive Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone know of a Driver for use with the Mitsumi, for use under
OS2 Ver 2.1.
There was a Sysop who claimed to have one and I did a File Request for
it. It came from Germany and was for OS 2 Ver 2.0 and clearly said it
wouldn't work with Ver 2.1, also it was a dated program, apparntly not
working after a given date, which had already passed.
I would appreciate the address of the commerical program out there and
if possible a free/shareware release of such a driver availability.
When possible I prefer to support the shareware authors.
Thanks for any assistance.
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 3615
To: PAUL KNOX Date: 09/21/93 9:00a
Subj: Re: Night Owl's Latest CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 19 Sep 93 20:23:00, I heard Paul Knox shout to All:
PK> I am looking for their latest version of shareware cd-rom. I am currentlyus
PK> version 7.0. I need to know where how and howmuch.
PK> Later
PK> Paul
N i g h t O w l 9 . 0
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*********** ***********
********* We Will NOT be out Sold *********
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 3616
To: ALL Date: 09/21/93 10:19a
Subj: Dealers Wanted! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
==========>>>>>> W A N T E D D E A L E R S <<<<<<===========
Wanting people to become Dealers, Or to distribute to Dealers
Call Mutli-Media and ask for:
Susan
Cheapest Prices around !!!!
Or send Name, A fax Number, Or phone Number to where you can be
reached to 1:231/570
1-800-865-5354
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From: MIKE ESPOSITO Number: 3617
To: ALL Date: 09/20/93 2:46p
Subj: NEW BBS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CALL THE COOL WORLD BBS. LOTS OF FILES GOOD MESSAGE BASES AND BLUE WAVE
MAIL DOOR. THE NUMBER IS 914-928-6090
SYSOP
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From: CHRIS DONNEGAN Number: 3618
To: ALL Date: 09/21/93 12:12a
Subj: PANASONIC CD NO MORE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I was talking to a dealer today who told me he couldn't recommend the
Panasonic drives because of the remarkable price instability they'd
displayed in the past couple of weeks. Apparently the wholesale prices
have gone way down and he thought this "meant something."
Well, it seems he was right. I called Panasonic HQ today and, after a
merry round of phone hopping (it was like calling the Pentagon, if you've
ever done that), was told that PANASONIC NO LONGER MANUFACTURES CD-ROM
DRIVES!! I was stunned.
Has anyone else heard this?
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From: JASON SUTTLE Number: 3619
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 09/22/93 9:24p
Subj: SB PRO OR SB 16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* In a message originally to All, Ashwin Bihari said:
AB> output, I just wanna know which of these card would be a
AB> good choice and
AB> worth my money, since I wanna use the Soundcard for the
AB> CD-ROM games I
AB> have and Audio CD's. also what about PAS 16, please tell me
AB> about these
AB> card and good and bad<grin> things about these cards. TTYL.
I just purchased a PAS 16, and I LOVE IT! Especially because it's got a
built-in SCSI interface (just can't wait for my 2 Texel's to get here. :-))
Jason
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 3620
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/23/93 8:40p
Subj: RULES Refer: 5963
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
-> For the sake of some clarity, discuss it in CDROMsale. Tim basically
-> has no rules, and he says it is ok......
That's not true! I have the "use your brain" rule ;)
tim
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 3621
To: ANDREW SEE Date: 09/23/93 9:03p
Subj: NEW FIREARMS CD! Refer: 6054
Read: NO Private: No
-> MS> | Title: FIREARMS REFERENCE Price: $30 |
-> MS>
-> MS> * Features over 600 products from 70 different manufacturers
-> MS> * 256-color hi-rez images * BBS-Ready in several formats
-> MS> * Custom-designed Super-VGA interface
-> MS> * Covers every firearm from black powder rifles, to Class 3 w
->
-> As we Aussies say... Only in America.
There's a city about 20 miles north of Atlanta (Kennesaw, GA) where, by
law, you're REQUIRED to own a firearm. I love America!
tim
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From: DANIEL SIGMUND Number: 3622
To: ALL Date: 09/22/93 9:50a
Subj: Catalogs WANTED! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I would like to receive catalogs from you dealers that frequent this net.
Please, only reputable dealers, I know the ones that aren't!
Send catalog to:
Daniel Sigmund
700 County Rd 219, #123
Box Elder, SD 57719
Thanks in advanced!
..Dan..
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From: JOSEPH THOMAS Number: 3623
To: JEFF HUBERT Date: 09/23/93 7:59a
Subj: Os/2 mitsumi driver Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am not using any beta. I am using one commercially available
and it works now. Tnx.
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From: JOSEPH THOMAS Number: 3624
To: DOUG SCHWANTES Date: 09/23/93 8:17a
Subj: Mitsumi/SB Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DS> I to have tried to connect the Mitsumi's 4 pin
DS> connector to the SoundBlaster's
DS> 4 pin and it didn't work. But if anyone knows a
DS> different way to do this please
It is said the wires should be reversed and it works.
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From: POE LIM Number: 3625
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/22/93 11:08p
Subj: CR-563/SB 16ASP vs MM kits Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Rowan,
On Sep 19 19:46 in a msg to Steve Mann, Rowan Evans of 3:711/413 wrote:
> Poe Lim (who also lurks in FICDROM) has informed me that he has seen
You called; lurker humph!
> spex for caddy based versions of these drives, but I believe he
> mentioned Christmastime as the delivery date (at least it is for the
> CR503 SCSI-2 version)......
No, the caddy ones are the 533 (for the SCSI version, and have a 280ms (from an
untrustworthy memory) access time) and is available *now* at greater cost; the
503 is very similar to the 562/3, in that it is caddyless, and is still a
Christmas delivery in Aust according to the distributor.
Cheers,
Poe
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From: POE LIM Number: 3626
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/22/93 11:13p
Subj: Cr562b Cd-rom Drive Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Rowan,
On Sep 20 18:52 in a msg to Poe Lim, Rowan Evans of 3:711/413 wrote:
> Please do! I'd be *MOST* interested in the results. Until then, I'll
> stand by my statements that SCSI CD-ROMs are slow compared to the
> CR-562B/CR563!
Must hunt around for a SB Pro or 16 first; I've never seen the need for the
extra expense, but now.... (also they are the only one with drivers under OS/2,
and I'm not sure the generic drivers will work well).
> Using the CR503 is a bit unfair to the other CD-ROM drives though -
> it has a 256Kb buffer according to the spex....
256K buffered SCSI CD-ROM drives (off the top of my head):
NEC 74-1/84-1
Panasonic 533
Sony CDU561
Toshiba 3401
> As you're already running a SCSI CD-ROM, why not look at the new,
> cheaper PAS 16 without the SCSI host adapter??
And how am I to test the 562B then? :)
I wonder how compatible is the PAS 16 with it's SB support, as the non-SCSI one
is priced about $100 less than the SB 16ASP.
Cheers,
Poe
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 3627
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/21/93 2:03p
Subj: COVER CD 'PC MAG' Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
MS>BF>it's a royal PAIN to get a disc into a "Sony-style" caddy without
MS>BF>scratching it!
MS>
MS>Not if you have an opposable thumb. 8)
That's a beauty Mike!
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 3628
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 09/21/93 2:07p
Subj: Your Tagline Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BJ> -=> Quoting Brice Fleckenstein to Edward Tushar <=-
BJ> BF> * SLMR 2.1a * I love my country. I FEAR my government....
BJ> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
BJ>Me, Too. But I'm workin' on it! Shouldn't (no, DOESN'T) have to be th
You're not related to Lee Harvey Oswald by any chance?
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From: NEIL RIPSTON Number: 3629
To: ROBERT MCGEHEE Date: 09/22/93 10:43p
Subj: READ ME Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Call Texel at 1-800-886-3935 to get sales information. The stats are as
follows:
DM-3024 Internal (Mine) and DM 5024 External
265 MS Average access speed,
300 KB / Sec Transfer Rate
64 KB Buffer
SCSI-2 Compliant
Switch Selectable SCSI ID and Terminator
It is a caddy based system. The Sony caddys can be bought for $4.00 to 4.50
each.
If you have other questions, feel free to call me at 413-525-0911 evenings
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From: NEIL RIPSTON Number: 3630
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/22/93 6:26a
Subj: CD-ROM SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AS> For *ADULT* TITLES CALL or REQUEST CATALOG
Please send a catalog of ALL your titles and prices to:
Neil Ripston
10 Windham Drive
E. Longmeadow, MA 01028
... "What?!? This isn't the Files section?!?"
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3631
To: ALL Date: 09/22/93 11:39p
Subj: SPECIAL Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
C D R O M B L O W O U T S P E C I A L S
1993 Guiness World Book - $29. Mario Is Missing - $20.
Mayo Clinic - $20. San Diego Zoo The Animals! - $20.
MicroSoft Works/BookShelf - $80. Sports Best - $15.
Shareware Online #2 - $35. Shareware Studio #3 - $19.
Software Vault Gold - $25. Night Owl Graphics - $25.
FREE C.C.I T-SHIRT with $100. order or more !!!
SPECIAL BUNDLE - Mario Is Missing, Mavis Beacons Teaches Typing,
Chessmaster 3000 & US/World Atlas - Price - $50.
ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 Tec/Ques 216-225-3263 Fax 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3632
To: BARRY SHIPLEY Date: 09/23/93 1:22a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Refer: NONE
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>> Boris:
>> I've seen many posts on the board from you. Can you answer a
>> couple of technical questions:
>> 1. Is there a quad-speed system coming out in the next few
>> months?
The Pioneer 604X is a quad-spin system already. That's why you have a
600kps transfer rate.
>> 2. Does the Pioneer 604X plan to upgrade?
Upgrade to what ??? It's already a much faster unit than the older
DMR 600, which is a 600ms drive with 150kps transfer rate.
>> 3. Is the Pioneer kodak CD compatible?
The DMR604X is, but not the DMR600.
>> 4. Will the Pioneer work with a PAS-16?
Sure will and we have the upgrade kit to do it for both systems.
>> 5. Are there any other multi-drive systems on the market?
Yes, but I think the price is a little out of the range you'd be interested.
We also carry the NMS units that is a 100 disk changer and it's priced at
$6500. complete. As I said, this is probably a little more than you'd be
willing to spend.
>> 6. Can you send a catalog?
Sure do!! We''ll place you on the bottom of the list and as soon as all of
our current customers get thier copies, we'll start shipping to all those
who have requested one and the list is vvvvvvvvvvvveeeeeeeeeeeerrrryyyyyy
long.
>> More than a couple of questions, but thanks in advance for the
>> help.
Not a problem, hope we were able to shed some light on the matter. If there
is anything else you need help with, please feel free to give us a call
at 216-225-3263 anytime 7 days a week and we'll be happy to assist you
further.
Boris Osadciw
... Press F1 to Reboot
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3633
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/23/93 1:22a
Subj: Re: Panasonic Cdrom Refer: NONE
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>> Hi Boris!
>>
>> On 09-18-93 Boris Osadciw wrote to All...
>>
BO>> )))))))))))))))))) P A N A S O N I C 5 6 2 ((((((((((((((((((((
BO>> The ALL NEW Panosonic 562 is here and ready for delievery!!
BO>> 340ms access time / 300kps transfer rate
>> ^^^
>> Why then does my manual for the above-mentioned CD-ROM drive
>> say 320ms in double speed mode?? <g>
Well, lets see.....I have two manuals here in front of me....one say's
340ms average access time, while the other say's 320ms average access time.
Both manuals seem to have the same publishing date and both unit's, I pulled
the manuals out of were dated 1993. Best quess would be to split the
diffrence and say thier 330ms average access time.....grin -:)
Have no idea as to why one say's one thing and the other states something
else, I didn't print the books.....grin -:)
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3634
To: JOHN BENJAMIN Date: 09/23/93 1:22a
Subj: Re: CD carousels Refer: NONE
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>> Folks,
>> I'm looking for a multiple carousel CD for my BBS that
>> will hold a minimum of 3 to 5 CD's. Need price, make,
>> model & availability via mail.
>> John Benjamin
The Pioneer DMR600 or DMR604X will work very nicely for you. We currently
have both units in stock and thier priced at $799 and $1199. respectively.
If you need further assistance, please feel free to call us at 216-225-3263
anytime 7 days a week and we'll be glad to assist you further.
Hope this helps...
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3635
To: DONALD NELSON Date: 09/23/93 1:22a
Subj: Re: HELP!!!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> does anyone know how to connect a mitsumi cd-rom drive model
>> CRMC to a sound blaster pro. i need to hook up the cd
>> interface not the audio. --- FreeMail 1.09
Sorry, but the only thing you can interface would be th audio portion
and not the cd-rom support.
Hope this helps...
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3636
To: ALL Date: 09/23/93 1:22a
Subj: DUNE IS HERE !! Refer: NONE
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D U N E - T H E G A M E O N C D
by Virgin Games
Play the game with actual footage from the David Lynch cult film,
based on the best-selling Frank Herbert epic. Fly ornithoptors,
conquer the Harkonnen bases, manage spice production and overtake
armies of Fremen troopers. Accurately synchronized speech of live
actors with subtitles available in seven languages.
Price - $59.00
ORDER LINE US/CAN 800-243-0517 TEC/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 3637
To: ALL Date: 09/22/93 3:23p
Subj: CD-ROM SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3 - Certified user friendly, no knowledge of ZIP
required. Contains 650 megabytes of the most exciting shareware
programs available anywhere at ANY PRICE. Fantastic VGA arcade
games, home & hobby, graphics, clip art, sound files, financial programs,
OS/2, Windows applications, fonts & more. Really something for
everyone BBS Ready! Price 35.00 PC
Shipping is 5.00 up to 3 cds .50 each addition CA add 7.75% SEND
check/money order in US funds payable to ADRIAN SALAS to: SAN DIEGO ROM
CONNECTION 2434 EAST 32ND STREET, NATIONAL CITY CA 91950-7710 USA
QUESTIONS/ORDERS 619-479-8688 10:AM to 7:PM PST.
■ QMPro 1.51 ■ ROM CONNECTION BBS CD-SALES 619-479-8688 10pm-7am PST
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 3638
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/22/93 7:45p
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
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BO=>**************** C D - R O M D R I V E P R I C E S ****************
BO=>Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $799.00 Pioneer DMR604X Bare - $1199. -SCSI
What does bare mean?
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 3639
To: KEVIN PLUMMER Date: 09/22/93 7:56p
Subj: Dealers Wanted! Refer: NONE
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KP=>==========>>>>>> W A N T E D D E A L E R S <<<<<<===========
KP=> Or send Name, A fax Number, Or phone Number to where you can be
KP=> reached to 1:231/570
If possible, mail info to
San Diego Rom Connection
2434 East 32nd Street,
National City, CA 91950
o
■ QMPro 1.51 ■ ROM CONNECTION BBS CD-SALES 619-479-8688 10pm-7am PST
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From: MARCIAL MORENO Number: 3640
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 09/18/93 10:08a
Subj: Re: cd-rom wholesalers. Refer: NONE
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-> I was just trying to be informative. BTW: Tenure has nothiung to do
-> woth the law. If you registered your name as a alias first
-> then fine. But just because you've been using it longer is no
-> defense. Again, just trying to help. <EOT>
-> Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
No Hard feeling, I was just saying that I had been using the name for my
business long before and it has been registered in the state of california
since. I guess what I was tring to say that it doesn't matter to me if
someone else is using the same business in another state. As long as the other
business is not claiming that its afiliated with mine or vise versa. Anyway
thanks for the infomation and no hard feelings :).
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From: MARCIAL MORENO Number: 3641
To: ALL Date: 09/22/93 7:34p
Subj: Cd-rom wholesalers and pu Refer: NONE
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@SUBJECT:CD-ROM Wholesalers and Publishers. N
******************> ATTENTION CD-ROM WHOLESALERS <*****************
I recently opened a CD-ROM store in the Whittier, CA area and now
I'm looking for CD-ROM Wholesalers or Publishers. I plan to buy a
least $30,000 more in CD's to stock my business. I have already
bought about $10,000 but still need more titles. I'm looking for
all kinds of CD's (Shareware, Adult and Commercial). If you are a
Wholesalers or Publisher and would like to do business with me
please send me your CATALOG or LIST of titles to the following
address:
Mega-ROM Software
c/o Marcial Moreno
P. O. Box 627
Norwalk, CA 90651-0627
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From: NEIL BERGMAN Number: 3642
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/22/93 10:39a
Subj: DISCOUNT CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
Bob: Can you get me alittle more information about "Up All Night"
like what's on it,etc.. If you can I'll try to push it in my ads.
Thanks,
Neil Bergman
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From: BRYAN MITCHELL Number: 3643
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/20/93 9:41a
Subj: Re: DISCOUNT CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
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* Reply to msg originally in CDROM
-=> Quoting NEIL BERGMAN to ALL <=-
NB> SHORELINE CD-ROM'S DISCOUT PRICES
NB> FOR A COMPLETE CATALOG, LEAVE E-mail
NB> ADDRESS OR POSTAL ADDRESS!!!!
Neil,
I'll take a copy. My E-Mail address is 4:920/25 or my postal
address is:
Bryan Mitchell
PSC 01 Box 1568
APO, AA 34001
.....Bryan
... Tag line thievery ... On the next Geraldo!
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From: BRYAN MITCHELL Number: 3644
To: JEFF HUBERT Date: 09/20/93 9:52a
Subj: Re: Os/2 and mitsumi Refer: NONE
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* Reply to msg originally in CDROM
-=> Quoting Jeff Hubert to All <=-
JH> Can somebody please tell me how to get any of the os/2 cd-rom drivers
JH> for the mitsumi to work.
Jeff, I got mine from a guy in Florida called Joe Cossette. His phone
number is 305-968-4605. It's a commercial product and will cost you about
$25.00, but well worth it. I tried all the shareware versions without
success, but this one works great.
JH> Os/2 says it loaded the driver but doesn't recognize the drive.
JH> instructions for any of the drivers on here would be fine because I
JH> have them all and I can't get them to work.
Had the same problem. Got kinda upset as IBM didn't tell me which
CD-Rom's were supported when I ordered. Unfortunately I ordered mine
on CD and had to wait an extra two weeks for the driver before I could
even set up OS/2. Hope this helps.
.....Bryan
... Tag line thievery ... On the next Geraldo!
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From: GREG ARMENIA Number: 3645
To: ALL Date: 09/22/93 11:48p
Subj: The Pier Shareware CD-ROM Refer: NONE
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**************************************
**** The Pier Shareware #3 CD-ROM ****
**************************************
We are now taking pre-orders for The Pier Shareware #3
ONLY $39.00 With FREE Shipping During Pre-orders Season!
The Pier Exchange (tm) is proud to present the HOTTEST and most
CURRENT CD-ROMs ever released. The Pier Shareware CD-ROMs are a series
of sequential updated disks containing the latest Shareware programs.
All files on the discs are TRULY the most CURRENT files available on
the market at the time of their release. Unlike other Shareware CD-ROMs
that claim to have current files, The Pier Exchange has assured this
with "Smart Date Checking." (S.D.C.) Such dated files as FILE_ID.DIZ,
READ.ME, etc., within the archives are disregarded giving you TRULY the
latest files.
The Pier Exchange CD-ROM Publishing has set the standards for
Shareware CD-ROMs in regrades to the quality of files one comes to
expect on CD-ROMs. Now we would like to set the standard on CD-ROM
Access Software!
Introducing for the first time on The Pier Shareware #3, ThePier
v2.0 High Performance CD-ROM Access Program. This is not a GUI
interface put over v1.0, but rather a complete rewrite, and as a
result it is 300% FASTER then version 1.0. The GUI interface will
support EGA or VGA graphic modes. There is full mouse support with
pull-down menus. The Search menu will allow you to search ThePier
database for matching file names, keywords, or archive content file
names. The viewers are one of the nicest features of ThePier. They
allow you to associate programs with data files on the basis of the
data file extension. ThePier has a built-in viewer that is used as the
default viewer unless you specify something different. You will have
the ability to add additional comments associated with any file within
the database. The ability to copy or extract files to any path, on the
fly!
Features Of ThePier v.2.0:
* GUI Graphical Interface - EGA VGA * Keywords Search
* Full Mouse Support * File Name Search
* Pull-down Menus * File Name Within Archive Search
* File Comment Field Entries * Copy/Extract Files
* Searches 300% Faster Then V.1.0 * Built-in Default Text File Viewer
* Multiple File Viewer Configuration * Can Run In Text Mode
* Will Not Modify AUTOEXEC.BAT * Blows Competitors Out of The
Water
**************************
The Pier Shareware #3 Features: * Subjects *
* ---------------------- *
* Windows Applications *
* 640+ Megs of Shareware files * Windows Games *
* <ASP> directory * Programing Languages *
* 100% files dated 1993 S.D.C. * Programing Tools *
(Smart Date Checking in place) * SVGA GIF Pictures *
* ThePier v2.0 retrieval software contained * Educational Programs *
on the CD-ROM (High Performance CD-ROM * Games / Entertainment *
Access) * Sound Blaster /MIDI *
* All files have been scanned for * DTP / Clipart *
viruses with the latest McAfee SCAN * Bible *
* Full GAP, PCBoard, Spitfire, Wildcat! * Medical / Health *
Remote Access FILES.BBS Support * Word Processing *
* Less then 1% duplication between * Laser/Printer Utils *
The Pier Shareware 1 & 2 * BBS Programs / Doors *
* Most current files on the market * Communications *
* 30 day money back guarantee * Legal *
* OS/2 Programs/Utils *
* *
Distributors/Dealers are welcomed. * And Much Much More! *
**************************
We are now taking pre-orders for The Pier Shareware #3, and of
course, with all pre-orders shipping and handling is FREE! Order by
voice, FAX, or BBS online ORDER door. The cost of the CD-ROM is only
$39.00. We accept all major credit cards, check, and money order. Check
and money order must be US funds and drawn on US banks. Make check
payable to: The Pier Exchange, 128 Carmel Rd., Buffalo NY 14214
T h e #1 S h a r e w a r e C D - R O M
And We Back Our CD-ROMs With a 30 Day Money Back Guarantee!!!!
Pre-order yours today and we will pay the shipping!
ORDERS ONLY 1 - 8 0 0 - 4 3 8 - 9 7 3 4
International Orders, FAX, or Information 716-875-4931, BBS 716-875-3130
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From: STEVE GREENO Number: 3646
To: ALL Date: 09/23/93 4:33a
Subj: CD-ROM CATALOG Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
FREE CD-ROM CATALOG
OVER 200 TITLES
$10.00 TO $50.00
SEND TO:
STEVE GREENO
1275 E. PRINCE
TUCSON AZ. 85719
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From: ERIC PERO Number: 3647
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/22/93 12:30p
Subj: CD-ROM Catalogue (FREE!) Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Adrian,
Please send me a free catalogue! Thanks a bunch!
Eric Pero
12 Bassett Street
Ansonia, CT. 06401-2108
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From: GARY MCGEE Number: 3648
To: ALL Date: 09/22/93 5:28p
Subj: UltraStor 14F Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello SCSI/CD ROM users
I am looking for the device drives to use a Toshiba 3401B CD-ROM drive with a
UltraStor 14F SCSI host adapter.
BTW:
I am looking for the address of the UltraStor Corporation. Perhaps there
phone number, BBS phone number, FAX Number.......
Thanks, Gary
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From: STEVE GERWECK Number: 3649
To: SCOTT GOLBY Date: 09/22/93 8:31p
Subj: Busty Babes Vol II-N Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Scott Golby to Lee Noga <=-
SG> With this New Busty Babes disk have you made a better effort
SG> to remove the pictures that have come from Playboy magazine? I saw
SG> well over 50 in the Busty Babes I have here. I saw next to none from
SG> Penthouse, but plenty from Playboy.
Which BB do you have?
Steve
... Not tonight, dear. I have a modem.
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From: LEE NOGA Number: 3650
To: SCOTT GOLBY Date: 09/22/93 6:43p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Vol II-N Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message to Lee Noga <09-19-93 15:27> Scott Golby wrote:
SG>> With this New Busty Babes disk have you made a better effort
SG>> remove the pictures that have come from Playboy magazine?
The BB Vol II disc due out on/around 1 October is all licensed never seen
before images--We have model releases on all the content--The previous line of
products are out of production for good, never to be manufactured again.
Hope this answers your question.
-=*>Lee<*=-
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From: ELDON WAKEFIELD Number: 3651
To: ALL Date: 09/22/93 6:57a
Subj: PNX-CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have purchased the Phoenux CD #2 & #3 and they bothe had a dir called list
on them. that had the files I needed. But the Pnx #4 did not have any The
only one it had was one that was [File Name] [Description] What I need is one
[File Name] [Size] [Date] [Description] Does any one have that by chance,
Don't know why they did not include that as before will be happy to freq just
say when and where Thanks Eldon
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From: GARY STIMPSON Number: 3652
To: JOHN RACKLEY Date: 09/22/93 1:27a
Subj: Re: Amiga CD32 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of 18 Sep 93 John Rackley wrote to me:
JR> Gary, the spec list on the CD32 you posted did indeed mention that the
JR> CD32 comes with a floppy connector. I would like to have this verified
JR> by some official source.
See below.
JR> You also mentioned an expansion connector. Have you heard any word on
JR> whether this will have a SCSI port? If it does, we can expect to see
JR> Commodore generate a lot of sales to people wanting high performance
JR> CD-ROM drives. I'd love to buy both a CD-ROM drive and an Amiga for
JR> the price of just the drive! ;)
No idea. You're right though, they'd make a lot of money and that would be
a really smart move. Bet it's IDE! :-) Anyway, best to contact someone
from Commodore or a person who actually owns a CD32. I can relay your
message to the Amiga CDROM echo, maybe your questions will be answered
there. I'll get back to you if I receive a reply.
Gary
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From: MICHAEL BROWN Number: 3653
To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN Date: 09/22/93 11:05a
Subj: CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello! How do you think that they or whoever
conpiled or assembled the data?
Scanning phone books, data bases from the
Bell Systems. I wonder who has a data base
available for sell such as AT&T. It seems to
me, how many phones, 250 million people/3 plus
business lines= egual 3.3^10 data. Is this equal
to 7disk times 650MB of data?
Thanks Mike
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From: ANDREW PAGE Number: 3654
To: DON SHORTRIDGE Date: 09/22/93 7:23a
Subj: BBS LISTING Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DS> I will be more than happy to advertise your BBS on Secure
DS> Bacckups BBS. I will
DS> even advertise it on a couple of BBS's that I regulary get
DS> on in the San Diego,
DS> CA area.
Excuse me, but when you address to "sysop" in this area, you're writing to
EVERY sysop in the USA that carries this echo.
AJP
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From: JOHN RACKLEY Number: 3655
To: GARY STIMPSON Date: 09/21/93 11:39p
Subj: Re: amiga cd-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
You mentioned you have an Amiga 600HD and an Amiga 1200. What the heck is an
Amiga 600HD, and how does it differ from an Amiga 600?
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From: ROBERT POWELL Number: 3656
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/22/93 1:49p
Subj: PANASONIC CR562B Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BF>>Point #1 - If you take reasonable care of your equipment you are
BF>UNLIKELY to >damage a CD disk.
BF>I'm a good example - 10+ years using CDs, and I've NEVER damaged one
BF>(OK, one exception that I took a hammer to!).
Hi Brice,
I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who can separate fact from
fiction. Having been heavy into computers for over ten years I can't
resist getting on my soap box when someone presents personal preference
as fact to a novice user asking for help. Originally I was answering
several questions about the Panasonic 562-B one of which was should it
be considered because it uses a motorized tray instead of a caddy. I
responded because I have one of these beauties connected to my SB 16ASP
and was in a position to answer the questions from first hand knowledge.
I tried to give him both sides of the caddy issue so the user could
decide what he needed for himself when someone else decided to say he
would not buy anything that doesn't use a caddy. Needless to say, out
came the soap box. He replied to that message with more opinion and no
facts so you'll see one more long winded message on the merits of
caddies. Unless provoked I intend to put the soap box away after that
one. Anyway, keep the faith and thanks for helping to dispel the
misconceptions.
Bob
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From: ROBERT POWELL Number: 3657
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/22/93 1:49p
Subj: RE: OS/2 CD-ROM SUPPORT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LR> RF> > True, however, if one stays with SCSI, one not only
LR> RF> >gains the performance benefits of SCSI, one also has few
LR> RF> >problems under OS/2.
LR> RF> If one has it in the first place, then they can stay with it,
LR> RF> the obvious best choice. But moving to it in the first place is
LR> RF> not cheap, which, like the RAM prices, is probably one of the
LR> RF> reasons many people are still staying away from OS/2. Hopefully
LR> RF> in the future prices will continually go down here, as well.
LR> True. When I say "stay", I mean of course, "stay away from
LR>non-SCSI devices". It is *VERY* expensive to dump what one already
LR>has and upgrade to SCSI. Buying SCSI initially is not as large a
LR>hit, especially when one does not have to buy an additional hard
LR>drive controller.
LR> RF> It is a given, though - you want to use a CD-ROM drive under
LR> RF> OS/2, go SCSI if at all possible.
LR> It has many benefits, even under DOS, and if one upgrades to
LR>OS/2, the path is all that much smoother. In addition, there are
LR>many devices that really only come in SCSI, like full page scanners.
LR>One of the nicest things is that potential conflicts between tape
LR>backups, CD-ROM drives, hard drives, scanners, and other devices are
LR>essentially eliminated.
Perhaps I am missing something here. Data transfer under any system is
limited to the maximum amount of data a drive platter can pass under a
head per given amount of time. In other words even though SCSI
electronics may be capable of transfering 200 gigabytes per second (an
unreal figure), a drive that spins at 4400 RPM (a respectable speed) and
has 63 each 512 byte sectors per track (a respectable density for a 520
Meg drive) is capable of placing aprroximately 2.25 megabytes per second
under the read head (4400/60*63*.5/1024). The pysicial characteristics
of drive is the actual limiting factor. Lets say current SCSI drive
electronics (the hard drive) can provide this amount to the controller.
Then this is the maximum speed the controller can supply CPU provided
there is no controller overhead (It never rains when I go boating
either). Current IDE electronics (the hard drive) can supply 1.5 to 1.7
megabytes per second to the controller. Current VLB IDE controllers are
capable of accepting data at up 19 megabytes per second (they also
provide for less overhead as they are much simpler devices).
Manufacuturers such as Micripolis have stated that thier next generation
of IDE hard drives will supply the controller as fast as thier SCSI hard
drives. Seems like the next generation of IDE hard drives will provide
the same performance depending soley on the physical characteristics of
hard drive. It would seem this performance is hardware based and is
independent of operating system, be it windows/dos, OSII, Unix or
windows NT.
I have seen grown intellectual men brought down to the level of chimps
trying to make an original SCSI device work with a SCSI2 device. And
let us not forget SCSI3 which is just around the corner. These are
hardware problems, not software.
I have seen comercial scanners based on proprietary IDE, Serial (really
slow) and parrallel interfaces.
But what really confuses me is what does all this have to do with CDROMs
other than some, not all are based on SCSI Interfaces.
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From: ROGER SMITH Number: 3658
To: ALL Date: 09/21/93 6:05p
Subj: CD Label Program Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I've found a nice, free, program which I have found very useful. It is a
Windows program which prints inserts for CD and CDROM jewel boxes. I use it
mainly for Photo CDs. It is especially nice for Photo CDs since Kodak printed
the spine labels upside-down. I use the CD Label program to print a
replacement for the spine and back inserts.
This program is also nice for CDROM users since many CDROMs come in generic,
unlabelled jewel boxes. It prints two inserts, an insert for the front of the
jewel box and an insert for the back and spines. It allows you to choose from
all the fonts and font sizes supported by your printer.
The program is available from the RSBBS in the Windows file area or is file
requestable as CDLAB100.ZIP. The archive is only about 9K in size.
The Visual Basic dynamic library VBRUN100.DLL is required. If you don't have
it, download (or request) POKERS10.ZIP which is a silly little Windows game
which includes the VBRUN100.DLL file.
-- Roger
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From: CRAIG GAGNER Number: 3659
To: ERIC TREMBLAY Date: 09/22/93 5:55a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi problems Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
ET> > The Mitsumi Drives with a manufacture date of June 93 will not
ET> > work in
ET> > a 486 system !! They just Crap out !! We have tried 4
ET> > different
ET> > motherboards ranging from ISA to Local Bus. The same drive will
ET> > work in a 386 no problem.
ET>
ET> What is the symptom Craig? Ehat do you mean by "they just crap
ET>out"? Does the driver report a "CD-ROM not Detected" message? Or is
ET>it something else. Please describe.
ET>
ET> TTYL
ET>
ET> Eric
ET>
Well we tried 11 different drives all manufactured June 93 and a
multitude of motherboards and they all showed not ready reading drive
faliure on int 24...
Everyone was exactly the same ...
Later Craig
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From: BEN RINGWALD Number: 3660
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/22/93 9:29p
Subj: RULES OF THE ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
Hello Bob!
Tuesday September 21 1993 10:25, Bob Hall wrote to Doug Carpenter:
DC>> are fortunate that he has banned sales all together, so I wouldn't
DC>> push your luck with Bob. He is a re nice gentlemen and his rules are
DC>> very tolerable and reasonable.
BH> Turning red. I'm flattered. Gosh. (kicking the dirt with my feet)
No, You're not turning RED... It's just that red okie clay under your
feet! I know... I started out there a good many years ago.
BTW, I would like to see less messages in this echo that are only useful to
the sender & receiver. Wonder how many folks know how to use NETMAIL? I know
this could have gone netmail direct, but some people need to start using
netmail.
Thanks for listening.
Ben
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From: RICK ASHWORTH Number: 3661
To: TOM GUELKER Date: 09/22/93 4:15a
Subj: PANASONIC CR562B Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello TOM!
18 Sep 93, TOM GUELKER writes to BRICE FLECKENSTEIN:
TG> I've got two small children that use my computer. The piece of mind I
TG> get with a caddy is worth the extra minimal cost. Try replacing some of
TG> the older CD's no longer available.
Try replacing them for the $4.00 cost of the caddy!
Rick
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From: CHRIS DONNEGAN Number: 3662
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/21/93 11:09p
Subj: NOT IN WINDOWS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE> o
RE> /U\
Yo! Rowan! I found ya!
Now that we're not in the Windows conference...I cannot use non-SCSI
drives. I MUST have SCSI interface drives (it's a compulsion).
Drives will be accessed simultaneously, not sequentially.
I'm lookin' at a stack o' internal drives in a case with SCSI interface.
Ideas?
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From: CHRIS DONNEGAN Number: 3663
To: JIM CUMMINGS Date: 09/22/93 10:40p
Subj: GOVT CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JC>The "U.S. Code, containing the general and
JC>permanent laws of the United States" is available for $30.00 on CD-Rom
JC>catalog SB 314, Superintendent of Documents, Box 371954, Pittsburgh, P
JC>15250-7954.
How would YOU use this CD?
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From: ARTHUR HUNT Number: 3664
To: WENCH Date: 09/22/93 11:13a
Subj: 0K download limit Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi, Sorry to bother you again, but tried to download a drawing and got a
Sorry, this would exceed your 0K limit. That's a mighty low limit. Can you
fix? Thanks.
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From: LANGSTON GOLDFINCH Number: 3665
To: ALL Date: 09/22/93 11:40p
Subj: ProPhone v 2.2 Refer: NONE
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Hello All!
Mid 1993 release- 7 disk set- every phone in country completely indexed- can
list all addresses with phone on any street in the country, find folks long
lost, all your relatives, every body in any zip, etc.
Will ship to you for $99-
new- you can resister this and get upgrades annually if you wish.
Langston
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From: MARK WALKER Number: 3666
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/22/93 7:56p
Subj: Re: Southern Beauties Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of <20 Sep 93 14:16:02>, Boris Osadciw (1:157/46) writes:
>In our case, we DO CARE about our customers and we'll do whatever we can
>to make them happy.
I will say I have always been satisfied with the service I have gotten from
you Boris.
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 3667
To: DAVID RICE Date: 09/22/93 2:28p
Subj: GIFs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DR>Does anyone know where I can get the "GIFs Galore" CD. I have been looking
>everwhere localy and no one has it. Please give me pricing on it too
>if you can. Thanks in advance.
GIF's Galore is $15.00 from Computer Works. Give us a call if you are
interested.
Computer Works CD-Rom Sales! Jim...
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card & COD Orders
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 3668
To: GUY OMER Date: 09/22/93 2:28p
Subj: Cd-rom For Spitfire Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GO> I'm a SpitFire sysop and am -always- looking for new/best CD's for my
>system. Clearly CD's with SFFILES.BBS 'work' best for me. Please also
>note: price <drat> is also important.
Hi Guy. I run a Spitfire BBS also and have found the So Much Shareware
series to be the easiest to setup of all the CD-Roms I have seen. Are
you familiar with them? So Much Shareware 3 will even install Spitfire
and/or SF-Rom onto your hard drive and install itself into the SF-Rom
configuration. That's hard to beat! The file selection is very nice
and includes an entire directory dedicated to Spitfire utilities.
I'll send you a catalog in the mail. Let me know if you have any
questions.
Computer Works CD-Rom Sales! Jim...
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS
Online Credit Card & COD Orders
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 3669
To: CHRISTIAN BUHL Date: 09/22/93 2:28p
Subj: Good deal? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CB>Or I could get a Mitsumi 300ms drive (I dont know the KBS, probably 300)
>for $210 (internal)
CB>Which is a better deal? Which would you get? (I would use it mainly for
>games and education)
Personally, I would get the Mitsumi and fix the wire connector to work
with the SB Pro. You can get a better deal on the Mitsumi. The lowest
price I have seen advertised is $175, so I will match that if you are
interested.
Computer Works CD-Rom Sales! Jim...
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS
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From: TOM ARRUDA Number: 3670
To: ALL Date: 09/22/93 2:28p
Subj: Rebel Assault Refer: NONE
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Does any body know what the release date for Rebel Assault is ??
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From: NIEL EYDE Number: 3671
To: ALL Date: 09/22/93 2:28p
Subj: $99 CD ROM DRIVE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
For any lurkers interested in getting into CDROM, check out your local
Radio Shack. I've just picked up one of there CDR-1000 for $99. The
drive won't break any speed records, but if your interested in shareware
CD's you may want to check it out. By the way, it is also MPC compliant,
although it will run a tad-bit slow. There are closed-out so you way have
to do some digging. In my case I had to prepay for one, and they got it
in within a couple of days.
For $99 it makes a great spare CD-ROM drive too!!
Niel
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 3672
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/22/93 2:28p
Subj: DR. CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
Hi Mike!,
-> I'm very impressed with this CD. Loaded with sound/music files in sev
-> formats like WAV, VOC, ROL, SND, MOD, etc, and also includes lots of
-> utilities, music editors, demo programs, Adlib/Soundblaster applicati
-> synthesizers and the like. It is BBS-ready, so you should have no
-> problem using it on your BBS. In stock at $20 each if you're interes
That sounds good! I'll keep it in mind.
Do you have any catalogs?
If so,
1914 N.E. Crestview Pl.
Newport, OR.
97365
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 3673
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/22/93 2:28p
Subj: DISCOUNT CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
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Hi Neil!,
I'll take a catalog!!!!
P.O. Box 1948
Newport, OR.
97365.
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 3674
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/22/93 2:28p
Subj: Re: SUPER SERIES Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
> IA>Ask for Super Series from your nearest dealer or call us;
> Ismail, you know there is a 10 line limit....
> Thanks.
> BOB
Ooops!..Sorry
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 3675
To: ROBERTO REYES Date: 09/22/93 2:28p
Subj: Re: Super Series Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Hi! Ismail
> Please, as soon as possible send me the prices of the following CD'S
> Super Games for Windows Vol. II
> Super_CD Shareware Library III (coming soon)
> Super Programmer (will be ready 19 Sept. 93)
Hi Roberto,
This week most of our customers will receive a catalog from us. Our 16 page
catalog even is not enough to list everything we got :-) TTYL
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From: STEVE GERWECK Number: 3676
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/22/93 2:29p
Subj: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Adrian Salas to All <=-
AS> ***************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION ****************
AS> If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave
AS> your mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
Thanks...
... Steve Gerweck, 530 Concetta Drive, Monroe, MI 48161-3542
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From: RAY COOK Number: 3677
To: ALL Date: 09/22/93 2:30p
Subj: The 7th Guest CD game 4-SAiL Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
The 7th Guest CD Game
Complete with all manuals, Video tape
`The making of The 7th Guest', and
CD's still sealed in orininal plastic.
$ 45.00 (prepay and I'll pay shipping)
Contact Ray Cook (303) 429-1854 (denver, colorado)
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From: STEPHEN ZAPPARDO Number: 3678
To: ALL Date: 09/22/93 2:30p
Subj: New mitsumi 2x speed Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone have the price for the new Mitsumi double speed CD player? It
has a transfer rate of 300k and access of 280. This is the new CD player that
Gateway 2000 is selling with their systems.
TIA, Stephen
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From: LEE NOGA Number: 3679
To: TYRONE THOMASON Date: 09/22/93 2:30p
Subj: Re: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message to David Wills <09-18-93 12:28> Tyrone Thomason wrote:
TT>> adult material was banned to protect Sysops ....
TT>> up for prosecution for violating State laws. Not the act of activist
BINGO ! YOU speak the truth, and let me add you are most correct--This echo is
monitored by outside agencies, and I would imagine what is said here can and
will be used against whomever--
-=*>Lee<*=-
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From: KEVIN HOFFMAN Number: 3680
To: BRIAN RYCHLICKI Date: 09/22/93 2:30p
Subj: Panasonic cd562-b / sbpro Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Brian...
In a note to All <09/14/93> Brian Rychlicki wrote:
BR> I just spent about three hours with a dealer trying to install a CD562B o
BR> my system which is a 386DX40, coProcessor, 8 Meg of Ram, and a Sound Blas
BR> Pro. No luck reading disks.
My first guess would be an I/O address conflict. IRQ conflicts can also
cause your problem but they're a lot easier to spot. When I do adapter
card installations the first thing I do is use a diagnostic package to
map the system's IRQs, DMAs, upper RAM and I/O addresses. Most of the
problems I've found result from I/O conflicts and they're usually the
hardest to find. I also pull the cards to match jumper settings with
the diagnostics tests.
Something else to be aware of is that most diagnostic software won't
spot all IRQs, DMAs, and I/O addresses already in use because they
aren't initialized until the item calling them is used so you may get a
report stating that some item is available when in fact it's assigned
but dormant at the time of the test... any diag software worth it's salt
will show what ROMs have been loaded into upper RAM.
Two devices can share the same IRQ under the right conditions... usually
only one device can be in use at a time.
Few diagnostic packages list the proper I/O address matchup to the
corresponding device/software.
Each card in the computer should be pulled and inspected for it's
various settings... record each item's settings.
Another blind side can come when two devices are assigned to the same
IRQ... diagnostic software usually reports the first item to grab the
IRQ and doesn't see the second device on the same IRQ.
Once all cards are mapped be sure to keep a hard copy of that system for
future additions and trouble shooting. You should also add to your
hard copy any available IRQs, DMAs, I/O addresses, and open high RAM
areas to make future upgrades easier.
Hope this helps...
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From: CATALINO ALVAREZ Number: 3681
To: CHRISTIAN BUHL Date: 09/22/93 2:30p
Subj: Re: Good deal? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello there,
Here's my opinion. Go ahead and get the Mitsumi and use your SB Pro.
My reasons are that you'll get a faster drive and you will already have a
good sound card. You never know what to expect from a "SB/Adlib/etc"
compadible card. Also you can get better programs than what they are
offering, for very good prices.
But of course the most important thing I see is that Mits is twice as fast as
that other drive!
Hope I helped and Read Ya Around,
CAT
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From: CATALINO ALVAREZ Number: 3682
To: JOHN BENJAMIN Date: 09/22/93 2:30p
Subj: Re: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Cat here,
Love to get one of your catalogs!
C. Alvarez Jr
348 Chutney Dr
Orlando, FL 32825-3612
Thanx and Read Ya Later,
CAT
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From: PETER LASNE Number: 3683
To: JOHN RACKLEY Date: 09/22/93 2:35p
Subj: Re: AMIGA CD ROM.. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm not sure what the release date is here in America, I'm pretty sure
it has been released in Europe already, so it shouldn't be too far off.
There are many ways to network the Amiga with other computers, the most
used is Novell, I don't think that Novell can be used across a SCSI port
BUT I am almost positive that there is a Novell network card for the
PCMCIA card slot (if it's not already out, it will be VERY soon).
Peter Lasne
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From: LEE WINSOR Number: 3684
To: CHRIS WOOD Date: 09/22/93 2:35p
Subj: Shareware Explorer Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Chris,
-> in Qedit. Also the only way to find out the file area names was to
-> use the ACCESS.EXE file browsing util that came with it. It made it a
-> tad more annoying to set up the filearea.ctl entries.
Actually, if you go into the \Sysops\pcboard subdirectory, the file
named 'DIR00ASC' has a list of all the file area names. I'm afraid I
neglected to include a copy of this file in the directories for other
BBS types.
For your benefit as well as other Sysops who purchase the Shareware
Explorer, there is another glitch that we were just informed of.
On DOS Explorer Volumes #1 & #3, (but not on the other volumes),
the FILES.BBS for directory \A036 is duplicated in directory \A037.
This error may be corrected in one of the following ways:
1) The file 'DIR37' in the \sysops\pcboard subdirectory may be
converted to files.bbs format via one of the included conversion
peograms for your bbs type.
2) You may call our support BBS at (203) 738-0342 and download the file
'XPLR_FIX.ZIP' (size=9k) which contains corrected files.bbs entries.
Sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused, but it seems no matter
how hard you try, 'Murphy' always gets the last laugh.... <g>.
\-Lee-/
New Frontiers CD-ROMS
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From: ADAM GOODE Number: 3685
To: TIM CANFIELD Date: 09/22/93 2:35p
Subj: Re: Kings Quest 6 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TC> Hey anyone have KQ6 on CD-Rom?
TC> I have it and am playing it, but I am stuck and am wondering if
TC> anyone else has a clue?
1>> Can't pass the boiling water.
2>> Can't seem to get into the castle... (tried 3 times, restarted 3 that
TC> is)
TC> Leave me a note - if ya can help -
TC> Candid Kid
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1) Get an Iceberg lettuce from the Isle O' Wonder and plop in the the
water. That should cool it off! (But hurry, or else the lettuce will
melt!)
ADAM GOODE
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From: ADAM GOODE Number: 3686
To: ADAM EDWARDS Date: 09/22/93 2:35p
Subj: Re: 16-Bit Sound Cards Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AE> Hi,
DP>> 16-bit card. Would a 16-bit sound card make games written for an
DP>> 8-bit card sound better?
AE> Nope.
AE>
DP>> Does anyone have any opinions on which 16-bit sound card will
DP>> become the standard? The Pro Audio Spectrum 16 was the first 16-
DP>> bit sound card but the Sound Blaster 16 has the advantage of the
DP>> 8-bit SB being the previous standard.
AE> 16bit cards are only good for recording and playing back 16bit
AE> digital voices. There aren't currently any games (except maybe
AE> 7th guest) that have 16bit sound (voices) on them. They take up
AE> too much space.
DP>> Does anyone know exactly what the difference is between the Sound
DP>> Blaster 16 and the ASP version? What is the difference between
DP>> the Pro Audio Spectrum and Studio?
AE> The ASP is a processor that enable compression and manipulation
AE> of Sound. Good for voice recognition and storage of large sound
AE> bytes but not much else.
AE>
DP>> He found a review of the Pro Audio Spectrum 16 that said that to
DP>> make it Sound Blaster compatible you have to run a driver
DP>> program. Does anyone know how big this driver is and if it
DP>> can be loaded high? Thank you in advance for all replies.
AE>
AE> don't know much about the new PAS16 series sorry.
AE> See ya Adam
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For the PAS16, you don't need the driver program. Except maybe
MVSOUND.SYS. This comes with the card and doesn't take much memory. The
PAS16 directly emulates the Sound Blaster. It's like haveing two cards
in one! The old PAS (8-bit) required software emulation of the Sound
Blaster. This type wasn't too good.
ADAM GOODE
... No, Taco Bell is NOT the Mexican telephone company!
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From: BOB DUNN Number: 3687
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/22/93 2:35p
Subj: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AS> If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please lea
AS> mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
Bob Dunn
51 Hubbell Ave
Ansonia, CT 06401-1329
Thanks
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From: DONALD NELSON Number: 3688
To: ALL Date: 09/22/93 2:35p
Subj: HELP!!!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
does anyone know how to connect a mitsumi cd-rom drive model CRMC to a sound
blaster pro. i need to hook up the cd interface not the audio.
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From: BARRY SHIPLEY Number: 3689
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/22/93 2:36p
Subj: CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Boris:
I've seen many posts on the board from you. Can you answer a couple of
technical questions:
1. Is there a quad-speed system coming out in the next few months?
2. Does the Pioneer 604X plan to upgrade?
3. Is the Pioneer kodak CD compatible?
4. Will the Pioneer work with a PAS-16?
5. Are there any other multi-drive systems on the market?
6. Can you send a catalog?
1221 Clover Ridge Court
Rapid City, SD 57701-2117
More than a couple of questions, but thanks in advance for the help.
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From: BARRY SHIPLEY Number: 3690
To: SIMON MACKAY Date: 09/22/93 2:36p
Subj: Government Laws on CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Simon was overheard saying:
SM>>Do you know of any legislatures who are planning on starting schemes
where
SM>>they put any Acts (laws that have been passed and are in force), Codes
and
SM>>Regulations on CD-ROM discs, making these laws available for public
SM>>browsing at their public libraries, or for sale / hire to interested
SM>>citizens e.g. lawyers and students.
Just read about a new service that puts court cases on CD-ROM. It allows
for easy searches of related cases. The example was given of a lawyer who
spent half a day finding a precedent. Using the CD-ROM she found it and
two others (one better than the one she found) in 10-15 minutes. I guess
it is only a matter of time.
I also read that the Social Security Admin put their code on CD-ROM and it
almost brought the organization down because it pointed out the
contradictions in the rules. I'd like to see it on the tax laws!
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From: BARRY SHIPLEY Number: 3691
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/22/93 2:36p
Subj: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-16-93 09:08 Adrian Salas was heard to say:
AS>>***************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION ****************
AS>>If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave
your
AS>>mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
Please send me a copy:
1221 Clover Ridge Court
Rapid City, SD 57701-2117
Thanks.
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From: JOHN RACKLEY Number: 3692
To: GARY STIMPSON Date: 09/22/93 2:38p
Subj: Re: CD32 Info 2/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thanks for the info, Gary. Looks like the rumor of a floppy-ready
expansion port was greatly exaggerated. :-/
I think it's too bad. I'm not sure when the proper connectors are going
to be available to turn the CD32 into a full fledged computer. I guess I
won't buy one after all. At least, not right away.
Please keep us updated if you get any further information.
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From: CRAIG GAGNER Number: 3693
To: STEPHEN GUPTON Date: 09/22/93 2:40p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi problems Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SG>In a msg on <Sep1914:10, Craig Gagner of 1:3626/1 writes:
SG>
SG> CG> I am a Tech at a local Computer Store, and we have run into a
SG> CG> problem with the Mitsumi Drives.
SG>
SG> CG> The Mitsumi Drives with a manufacture date of June 93 will not
SG> CG> work in a 486 system !! They just Crap out !! We have tried
SG> CG> 4 different motherboards ranging from ISA to Local Bus. The
SG> CG> same drive will work in a 386 no problem.
SG>
SG> CG> Does anyone know what might have happened ?? I suspect they
SG> CG> changed there firm wear with an upgrade which has caused this
SG> CG> problem..
SG> I run 2 of these on a 486 with no problems, which ver of
SG>MSDEX.EXE are you running?
SG>
SG> -=Stephen=-
SG>
I also run a Mitsumi on my 486 Local Bus 66, but its not a JUNE 93
manufacture date drive. I use MSCDEX that came with DOS 6 and all is
well, its the new drives there sending us !
We have decided to go with the Panasonic 562 drive and stop using the
Mitsumi drives, there loss as we probably sold half a dozen a week...
Later Craig
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From: CHRIS WISE Number: 3694
To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN Date: 09/22/93 2:43p
Subj: Cd-Roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
----------------------------------------
>>MS:> ProPhone 1993 7-disc set 50 37
>>MS:> American Business Phonebook 25 19
----------------------------------------
How do I order these two? You take plastic
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From: CHRIS WISE Number: 3695
To: ALL Date: 09/22/93 2:43p
Subj: Makers of CDS Refer: NONE
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This is going to the makers of CD's (which I am sure there are a few out
there). I just returned from a computer show, and do you know the MAJOR
reason why alot of CD's did not sell at a booth I helped run? Because
the makers had no list of the programs contained on the CD. It does not
have to be a full list, just a run down of some of the major programs on
the CD. Let me ask you a question, would you publish a music CD without
the song listing on the back? If not, then why publish a CDROM with no
list! We lost a lot of sales because we did not know what was on them.
Just an informational letter.
Lee Christopher Wise
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From: MAURICE VILLARREAL Number: 3696
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/22/93 2:43p
Subj: Cd-List Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please i'd like to receive the CD Catalog too.
Send to:
Maurice S. Villarreal
InGraph Sistemas
21 East Coma Suite 164
Hidalgo, TX 78557
Thanx.
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From: MAURICE VILLARREAL Number: 3697
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/22/93 2:43p
Subj: Catalogs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AS>If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave your
>mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
Yes, i'd like to receive.
Send to:
Maurice S. Vilarreal
InGraph Sistemas
21 East Coma Suite 164
Hidalgo, TX 78557
Thanx.
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From: MAURICE VILLARREAL Number: 3698
To: TIM CANFIELD Date: 09/22/93 2:43p
Subj: Kings Quest 6 Refer: NONE
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TC>1> Can't pass the boiling water.
You need to drop to the water, the frozen Lettuce.
SaludOS/2
Hal 9000
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From: MAURICE VILLARREAL Number: 3699
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/22/93 2:43p
Subj: Discount Cd-Roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> TOO MANY MORE TO LIST!!!
> FOR A COMPLETE CATALOG, LEAVE
> E-mail ADDRESS OR POSTAL
> ADDRESS!!!!
Please send me the catalog
Maurice S. Villarreal
InGraph Systems
21 East Coma Suite 164
Hidalgo, TX 78557
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From: ROBERTO REYES Number: 3700
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/22/93 2:43p
Subj: Catalogs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AS >***************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION ****************
AS >If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave your
>mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
AS >Thank you
Ok I like to receive your CATALOG take note of my address.
Roberto A. Reyes
14422 Industry Ave. Suite 7-54
Laredo, Tx. 78041
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From: ROBERTO REYES Number: 3701
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/22/93 2:43p
Subj: Discount Cd-Roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NB > SHORELINE CD-ROM'S DISCOUT PRICES
NB > These are just a few examples of our low prices...We have over 300
> titles in stock.
Please send me your complete catalog to
Roberto A. Reyes
14422 Industry Ave. Suite 7-54
Laredo, TX. 78041
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 3702
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 09/22/93 2:43p
Subj: CD-ROM GAMES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Hi Ashwin!,
-> -> I know what you mean Henry, I got the InterAction magazine and the
-> -> looks real good and I hope to buy it too, but actually right now m
-> -> are on Police Quest 4, I have never played any of the Police Quest
-> -> sereis so this is my first, hey by the way have you played SPace Q
-> -> 4, the CD-ROM or the regular version, cuz if you have maybe you ca
-> -> me, please write back, C-ya and TTYL.
-> Yeah, I've been getting Interaction since it was the Sierra News
-> Magazine..
-> I have PQ3 and it is absolutely fablulous! My brother is nuts about P
-> too. Yes, I have the entier SP series! It's my favorite! I have it on
-> disk, but still got to the end anyhow.
-> What are you having trouble with? Also, how old are you? I'm 17.
-> TTYL,
-> Henry
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Okay Henry, in Space Quest 4, I got to Space Quest X where I get cought
by some women, wow, anyway they want to torture me but a slug comes and
I save them and they say to go to shopping and I do it, and they leave
me and I cannot find them, anyway I got like 96 buckaziods, a new set of
clothes, a SQ4 hint book and Hint Revealer,a cigar butt and a ATM card,
now I tried to get out of the mall but did not succed and just got shot
so I tried to go into each of the shops and in the aracde a time travel
police came in and I went out, well that's where I am, now what do I do
to get out of here, and I am 16. well hope you can help me, C-ya and
TTYL.
Ashwin
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 3703
To: RICK SHOAF Date: 09/22/93 2:43p
Subj: Mitsumi CD-ROM Audio Refer: NONE
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-> JW>I have just bought a Mitsumi CD-Rom drive Model LU005U, this is th
-> JW>latest High Speed Drive. I'm happy with it but am having trouble w
-> JW>the audio. I can get audio from the front mounted headphone jacks
-> JW>connecting the drive to my sound card (a plain Sound Blaster) wit
-> JW>cable that came with the sound card and then running the out put o
-> JW>sound card to my stero amp, I don't get sound. Anybody out there
-> JW>this set-up that might have had this problem and solved it. AKA -
-> JW>it be a bad drive, interface card, Ecte, or am I just hooking it u
-> JW>wrong. Thanks in advance for any help! :)
->
-> Your drive is good and so is the SB Pro. If you have the manual to th
-> SB Pro, look in the back at the schematic drawings, it will give you
-> pin assignments for the audio input. now look at the manual for the
-> Mitsumi. It's pins are a different configuration than the SB Pro. You
-> will need to reverse the wires to something like this...
->
-> Original What it should be
->
-> SB Pro Audio input SB Pro Audio input
-> Pin 1 2 3 4 Pin 1 2 3 4
->
-> 1 2 3 4 2 1 4 3
-> Mitsumi Audio out Mitsumi Audio out
->
-> Look at the manuals to make sure, because I've only done this once, a
-> it was on my brother's computer, not mine, so I'm not sure of the exa
-> connections.
->
->
-> Rick
-> ___
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Well Rick, I also have the same setup that is I have a plaing SB 2.0 and
I use that with my Mitsumi, I can use the Sb perfectly with plain games
which produce mono sound but games which have stereo sound does not
work, and also I cannot send the output from an audio cd from by drive
to the SB since the SB cannot handle that kind of output so if you are
talking about Audio CD then forget it and buy a stereo card, but if you
are talking about games I don't see what your problem is. C-ya and TTYL.
Ashwin
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 3704
To: TIM CANFIELD Date: 09/22/93 2:43p
Subj: Kings Quest 6 Refer: NONE
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-> Hey anyone have KQ6 on CD-Rom?
->
-> I have it and am playing it, but I am stuck and am wondering if anyon
-> else has a clue?
->
-> 1> Can't pass the boiling water.
well one thing at a time, to get past this part go to the isle of wonder
and near the tomatoes look and you will see iceberg lettuce, use that on
this.
->
-> 2> Can't seem to get into the castle... (tried 3 times, restarted 3 t
-> is)
now you cannot get into the castle through the main door, after you have
finished the paint spell, use that on the side of a wall and you will
make a door and use that to get in, but this is at the end of the game.
-> Leave me a note - if ya can help - -> Candid Kid ->
Well if you need anymore help just write to me, C-ya and TTYL.
Ashwin
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From: KEVIN DONALD Number: 3705
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/22/93 2:43p
Subj: 16-bit sound cards Refer: NONE
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Stay away from SB-16 and PAS-16 and Soundman -16. They suck. Get Gravis
Ultrasound. Sell your soundblaster...Gravis rulez...
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3706
To: LOU PETRALIA Date: 09/22/93 2:44p
Subj: BUSTY BABES VOL II-NE Refer: NONE
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LP> the news and current affairs. The moderaitor has chosen to eliminate
LP> discuessions of adult oriented material (which I believe is a bad choice)
LP> but so be it. What's bothering me now is all the WANNABE moderators who
LP> just love to get upset and flame whenever they see a X- or XXX in a message
LP> So to all you WANNABE'S out there here's your chance to fufill your destiny
LP> in life and make you dreams come true.
The entire issue over adult titles, discussions is driving me nuts.
Like yourself, the wannabe's can get on my nerves. As a matter of fact
I have a big poster in my office that says, "I only have one nerve left,
don't get on it!" :-)
ALL I am requesting now, is that if anyone should talk about the adult
titles, they do it with some taste and discretion.
I'd give anything if I'd never mentioned it in the first place.
Bob Hall
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3707
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/22/93 2:44p
Subj: CD-ROM QUESTIONS Refer: NONE
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RE> Sunny Sydney.......
Wish I was there this morning. Eating a "bikki" with a tad of Vegamite,
a Cherry Ripe, a hunk of Violet Crumble, a taste of Billy Tea, and
perhaps toward the end of the day, a cold 4F. If my hands got dirty, I
could use that wonderful Sard soap to wash my hands. AHHHHHhhhhhh for
the land of enchantment.....
BOB
:-)
Guilty of dreaming for only a moment, and not moderating!
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3708
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/22/93 2:44p
Subj: KINGS QUEST 7 Refer: NONE
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BO>>> YO boris....
BO>>> The date is 8/9/93 and the cd-rom 2 this day has not come yet.
BO>>> R u having problems??!! Hey if u need 2 ask or there is sum
BO>Your order was faxed to us on 93/09/02 at 14:55 hrs. Your order was
BO>proccessed the next day and shippied via AIR MAIL at 10:48 hrs.
Boris, do like the rest of us, and use the phone for your order
problems. Tell your customers to do so also.
Bob Hall
Moderator.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3709
To: TODD OSTRER Date: 09/22/93 2:44p
Subj: CD'S FOR SALE Refer: NONE
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TO>Hello: Our new Catalog. WE Ship World Wide Express Mail..
10 line limit on any ad in this echo. Please adhere to the rules.
Bob Hall
moderator.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3710
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/22/93 2:44p
Subj: DR. CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
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AS>Wont happen again.
Thanks for your cooperation
BOB
:-)
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3711
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/22/93 2:44p
Subj: RULES Refer: NONE
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AS>Mr. Hall,
AS>By this you mean, that in advertisements they must, be divided, say the
AS>"Shareware and Games, and non-adult" is ok here and ADULT titles are to
AS>be posted in the CDROMsale Echo? Or are you referring to just the
AS>"discussing" of Adult titles?
After having messages bombard me, right now I don't care. However, I
think that discussing the contents of ADULT titles in an international
echo is not a wise thing to do, it is simply respect to those that do
not want to read it, or have it exposed to minors.
For the sake of some clarity, discuss it in CDROMsale. Tim basically
has no rules, and he says it is ok......
Bob Hall
Moderator.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3712
To: DAVID WILLS Date: 09/22/93 2:44p
Subj: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DW> Gee, is this 100% flame bait or what?
Nope. I can send you all the copies of pure flame bait, if you want. I
almost feel like I was sent to hell there for a day or two.
Bob Hall
Moderator.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3713
To: TYRONE THOMASON Date: 09/22/93 2:44p
Subj: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TT>Pardon me for butting in but, it seems that the very thing that you are
TT>accusing others of doing, you are doing yourself. In defense of the
TT>moderator, adult material was banned to protect Sysops from setting them
TT>up for prosecution for violating State laws. Not the act of activist or
TT>do-gooders as you claim.
TT>Is the moderator protecting someone from themselves? Yes, but posting
TT>in another echo is a whole heck of a lot easier on your conscience than
TT>having someones computer confiscated Federal and/or State charges levied
TT>against someone when you know that you were indirectly responsible. A
TT>bit of an inconvience, yes but, responsibilty is more admirable. In
TT>other words, would say something to a person you saw about to step off a
TT>curb into an on-coming car or stand there and shake you head after the
TT>accident?
TT>The information I gave you for the banning of adult discussions was
TT>gleaned from messages in the echo.
I am so impressed with your message, (especially the words "in defense
of the moderator") if you will call me, 1-800-550-3503, I will send you
a free CDROM!!!!!
Bob Hall
still trying to moderately moderate this echo... :-)
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3714
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/22/93 2:44p
Subj: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BF>It appears to have a LOT (everything) to do with the fact that Bob is a
BF>"neighbor" of Tony Davis's....
Call me, 1-800-550-3503 and I'll send you one too!!!!!
Bob Hall
starting to smile a little while moderately moderating this echo.
:-)
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3715
To: PAM TEMPLE Date: 09/22/93 2:44p
Subj: 10 LINES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PT>Well at this end it came out as only 9 lines - so you continue to be on the
PT>side of the angels.
PT>Cheers,
Well it is about time I do something right! :-)
BOB
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3716
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/22/93 2:44p
Subj: DISCOUNT CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
there is a 10 line limit on ads in this echo.
Bob Hall
moderator.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3717
To: RICHARD ROBB Date: 09/22/93 2:44p
Subj: RULES OF THE ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RR>Thanks for publishing the rules of the echo, Bob. You're doing a good
RR>job.
RR>However, now that the reasons for removing mention of XXX topics have
RR>been cited, I must say I'm disappointed in your reasoning. While it's
RR>true that children read the echo, that is a reason for banning *discussion*
RR>adult topics. But that is hardly a reason for banning
Point so noted and taken. Follow some of my reply's today, and see if
you still think my true reason was flimsy.
Anyway, as long as people are discussing with taste, I'm fairly open.
BOB
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3718
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 09/22/93 2:44p
Subj: CONTESTS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BJ>I once saw (and have since forgotten - dammit) a file description that
BJ>claimed 100's of "smiley face" characters. You don't happen to know
BJ>about it, do you?
Call me, and I'll send you one.
Bob
800-350-3503
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3719
To: SAM BECKWITH Date: 09/22/93 2:44p
Subj: CD-ROMS FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
10 line limit in this echo.
Bob Hall
Moderator
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3720
To: STEVE HODGES Date: 09/22/93 2:44p
Subj: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SH>Please don't do that Bob. As one of the people who've been around for a
SH>large part of the 8 years this has been running (yep I remember waiting
SH>all week for a couple more messages:-) I would request that you do not
SH>ban ads.
SH>Main reason being that the ads here may be the only ones I see.
no problem. Again, the ads prevail.
BOB
:-)
BTW: How ya been doin?
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3721
To: PAUL COLLIER Date: 09/22/93 2:44p
Subj: ECHO RULES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PC> Yeh, sounds good to me. The adverts are the only reason I read this echo.
Will keep them up for you....
BOB
:-)
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3722
To: LAURIE BATT Date: 09/22/93 2:44p
Subj: ECHO INTO ZONE 3 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LB> TS> I have been advised by my sysop that Dave Hatch, who
LB>That was not the impression I got from reading a message in this Echo from h
Well you tell Dave that it will remain the same for a while, and be sure
to tell him, I said hello..
BOB
:-)
moderator.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3723
To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 09/22/93 2:44p
Subj: RULES OF THE ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DC>Bob has the say on all issues on how this conference is run. This echo is n
DC>here to advertise adult CDROM discs or any CDROM discs at all as far as that
DC>goes. Bob has been gracious enough to let us advertise
DC>CDROM discs on a continuing basis. We as vendors are fortunate that he has
DC>banned sales all together, so I wouldn't push your luck with Bob. He is a re
DC>nice gentlemen and his rules are very tolerable and reasonable.
Turning red. I'm flattered. Gosh. (kicking the dirt with my feet)
BOB
:-)
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3724
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 09/22/93 2:44p
Subj: RULES OF THE ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BJ> Your argument is specious, Richard. Evidently you don't read this echo
BJ> often enough to understand the real reasons Bob made the decision he
BJ> did, which had nothing to do with any reasoning about children reading
BJ> this echo. His decision centered around his own legal liability related
BJ> to his being the moderator of this echo and residing in a state with
BJ> very stringent laws regarding pornography. Back up and read his last
BJ> post to Lee Noga on the topic.
BJ> Your sense of "fairnesss" is bizarre to say the least. In the several
BJ> months that I've been in this echo (and the For Sale echo where the
BJ> topic is still OK), the language used in "discussions" of adult CDs has
BJ> been much "tamer" than some of the chit-chat, not to mention that used
BJ> in the flames that are hurled between users. You sound like one of
BJ> those unfortunate tortured souls who are plagued with the Ostrich
BJ> Syndrome: "If it isn't talked about, it doesn't exist." Get real.
BJ> Sorry, Bob. Couldn't let that one pass. <EOT>
Gosh..... where were some of you when I first mentioned the situtation?
Wating for the hanging party, the victory party, or the smoke signals
from all the flames??????
Anyway, thanks BOB
BOB
:-)
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From: TIM CANFIELD Number: 3725
To: MARK GUTT Date: 09/22/93 2:44p
Subj: KQ6 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am lost as to how to get pass the man with the big eyes.. that would
allow me to continue on the isle of wonder... where do I find this
object..? I have the mint, the flower, the rabbit foot, a poem, a mech.
nightengale and that is about it I think...
Thanks for your help
TLC
Candid Kid out
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From: MICHAEL BROWN Number: 3726
To: LANGSTON GOLDFINCH Date: 09/22/93 2:44p
Subj: Pro-Phone V2.2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Ref. Pro-Phone I"m looking for a disk set.
I could trade for maybe a printer,HP portable
with disk drive and HP printer.
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From: TRISTAN LOUIS Number: 3727
To: NEIL HARFERT Date: 09/22/93 2:45p
Subj: Re: GATEWAY 2000 CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
What you may want to look at is what kind of access speed the CD ROM drive
has. I'm in the market for a similar machine and learned on the internet that
the MPC board has come out with a new set of criteria. The new systems will be
MPC2 and will receive accreditation from the board. Here's the minimum
requirements for an MPC2 machine:
486SX-25 or above
SVGA screen
16 bit soundcard, soundblaster compatible, or better (MIDI et al)
DOUBLE SPEED CD ROM
That last one may cost you more right now but it will also last longer as MPC
was not accredited and everybody and their mother is selling so-called MPC
computers. The MPC2 regulation requires accreditation and, as such, all
software available on that new platform will run on a system for it. I would
strongly reccomend looking into it. DAMARK has come out with an MPC2 upgrade
pack (CD Rom and sound card) for 500 bucks.
More later....
tristan@gibbs.oit.unc.edu
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From: NEIL HARFERT Number: 3728
To: ROSS FOCKE Date: 09/21/93 11:07p
Subj: Re: 7TH GUEST Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Ross -
Thanks for the info. Just a few questions: <1> How fast is a
good data transfer rate from a CD ROM -- as I've never used one
and don't know much about them,... I don't know what is fast and
what isn't. When I know that, I can ask Gateway 2000 about their
CDROM drive's transfer rate and understand it.
<2> Please describe more in detail about the game 7th Guest. Is
it a detective/drama, a funny/action (sierra type), etc. More
detail would be great -- why you like it, specific descriptions
of how it works, etc.
I know it might take a few minutes, but would be really appreciated!
Thanks again!
Neil
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From: NEIL HARFERT Number: 3729
To: PAT RICKERSON Date: 09/21/93 11:13p
Subj: 7TH GUEST Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thanks for the response. I'm definitely interested. Would the game run on a
386 DX 25 with SVGA? If I don't buy the 486 50v I'd want to upgrade my PC with
a CDROM and 7th Guest sounds like a neat one! You said something about a
video? Is this an instructional/guide video for the game? PLS respond via this
echo! I can send cashier's check payable to you for the $35 plus shipping
(should only be a couple-a-bucks). THX - Neil
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From: PETE CRESSWELL Number: 3730
To: ALL Date: 09/21/93 7:52p
Subj: GOOD MACINTOSH CDS?? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Am about to put a couple more CD rom drives up and want to dedicate
at least one of them to a Mac-oriented disk.
Any suggestions, favorites, warnings?
... Food-For-Thought Paoli, PA 215/251-9387
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From: DAVID DANKELMAN Number: 3731
To: SCOTT DAVIS Date: 09/21/93 10:58p
Subj: Re: XXX CD'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>SR>I'm just curious.......Why does there seem to be such a proliforation
>SR>of X-Rated CD's ? For those who are into that sort of thing, they can
>SR>get much better quality and diversability with VHS Movie cartridges
>SR>either for $29.00-$39.00 through the magazine ads or $1.50 to $3.50 per
>SR>day at Video rental places. I cannot understand why anyone would tie up
>SR>an expensive computer viewing low quality cheescake or porn pix, when
>SR>they can get VHS tapes or magazines much cheaper. I'm not against
>SR>them or complaining about them being here in the echo, just curious!!!
Well, some of us just like saying "Hey, look what my computer will do!"
Besides, nasty GIFs are fun to play with and they make great wallpaer.
Dave
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN Number: 3732
To: ALL Date: 09/21/93 11:14p
Subj: Visual Basic Shareware CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the sixth edition of
its Visual Basic CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a
dump of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The July 1993 CD-ROM has
534 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 120,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
Fax:301-963-2708, EMail:eengelmann@worldbank.org
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From: JAMES WILLIAMS Number: 3733
To: DAVE WONG Date: 09/21/93 11:14p
Subj: Mitsumi Cd-rom audio Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DW>YOU HAVE TO SWITCH THE PIN AROUND. WHAT I MEAN IS YOU HAVE A FOUR PLUG
DW>CONNECTOR, CORRECT. THE 2 OUTSIDE CONNECTION SHOULD CONNECT TO THE 2 INSIDE,
DW>AND THE 2 INSIDE CONNECTS TO THE 2 OUTSIDE. BOY, THIS SOUNDS CONFUSING
DW>DOESNT IT, BUT ITS NOT. A SIMPLE WAY IS TO GET A Y-PLUG TO DO THE SWITCH.
DW>MAYBE, I'M NOT EXPLAINING THIS RIGHT, BUT IT WORKS
DW>--- Maximus 2.01wb
DW> * Origin: Sea East PC Exchange (1:343/15)
Yea, you got me lost a little there, but thanks anyway. I found a work
around. By getting a Radio Shack 2 RCA plug to Mini, I connected the
drive to a set of small speakers and the sound card thru the Blaster and
my stereo at least this way I have sound. But please send me more info
on changing the audio cable to the adapter card. Gez, don't you just
hate work around :) Thanks all that answered my distress call :)
* OLX 2.1 TD * Press "+" to see another tagline.
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From: JESSE SCHMELZER Number: 3734
To: SHAWN FULLER Date: 09/21/93 11:16p
Subj: Re: DMR600 & 604X Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message on <11-Sep-93 18:16:22> Shawn Fuller (3:770/145) wrote:
SF> Does anyone use the Pioneer DMR600 and 604X on an Amiga?
SF> Or anyone use it with Starnet BBS software??
SF> I am interested to hear anything back on the Amiga side as I would
SF> like to run one with my BBS on an A3000.
SF> Cheers ... Shawn
SF> *FSED91m*
SF> --- Star-Net v1.02a
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Yes i run the pioneer 604x on my A3000T Will be adding another soon. I run
C-net BBS
Jesse
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From: CHRIS SNYDER Number: 3735
To: ALL USERS Date: 09/21/93 11:16p
Subj: Cd for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
The Software Toolworks Cd Deluxe 2.
Includes: TST's World Atlas, US Atlas, Reference Library and the game,
The Secret of Monkey Island.
$15 or make me an offer, will ship USPS 2nd day for $2.
Will consider trade.
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From: CHRIS SNYDER Number: 3736
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/21/93 11:16p
Subj: FOR SALE-CD ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NB> I have other discs for sale also. If you leave me your name
NB> and mailing address I can send you a list.
I am interested:
Chris Snyder
RR 4 Box 306
West Frankfort, IL 62896
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From: CHRIS SNYDER Number: 3737
To: ERIC HSIAO Date: 09/21/93 11:16p
Subj: Day of the tentacle Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
EH> I finished the Day of the Tentacle and now don't know what to do
EH> can. Anybody in the North Carolina area want to do a swap? I'd
EH> like to swap for the 7th Guest or a couple of good shareware disks.
EH> - Eric
I don't have anything to swap, but I would be interested in buying.
Contact me here with a price if interested.
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From: CHRIS SNYDER Number: 3738
To: KEN MATTHEWS Date: 09/21/93 11:16p
Subj: CD's for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
KM> Day of the Tentacle 30.00
I'll take it. Let me know how you want to handle it.
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From: DOUG SCHWANTES Number: 3739
To: JAMES WILLIAMS Date: 09/21/93 11:19p
Subj: Mitsumi/SB Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi James,
I also have a Mitsumi drive and think it's great (for a non-2x speed
drive).
I have mine connected to a SBPRO Deluxe but I think this may help.
I
have the Mitsumi's 4 pin connector from the drive hooked up to the
Mitsumi's
interface card, then hookup the RCA line from the back of the
Mitsumi's
interface card to the Sound blaster's IN line, (I'm not sure your
Sound Blaster
has an IN line), this works great and you only need one pair of
speaker's.
I to have tried to connect the Mitsumi's 4 pin connector to the
SoundBlaster's
4 pin and it didn't work. But if anyone knows a different way to do
this please
let me know.
I hope this helps you Jim, keep us posted!
=Doug=
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3740
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/21/93 11:19p
Subj: Re: DR. CD Collection Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Hi Boris!
>>
>> On 09-13-93 Boris Osadciw wrote to Chris Wood...
>>
BO>> BO>> ORDER LINE ONLY - 800-243-0517 - TECH - 216-225-3263 - FAX -
BO>> BO>> 216-225-6759
BO>>
BO>> >> Ever consider making that 800 number a North America wide toll
BO>> >> free line? Us folks up here in Canada give you some business
BO>> >> don't we? <grin>
BO>>
BO>> Already done Chris !! Should be Online sometime this week, but it
BO>> will be and ORDER LINE ONLY and we will not give out product support
BO>> nor offer any price comparisions. It will strickly be so our friends
BO>> in Canada will be able to place an order without any international
BO>> long distance costs.
>>
>> How about 0014 (International Toll-Free from Australia)
>> support.....
>> You have keen prices, but I wouldn't like to get hung on a
>> phone queue waiting to order...... <g>......
>>
We're looking into it and we'll post it as soon as we decide if it would
be worth the investment.
Thank you for your interest !
Boris Osadciw
... Happy as a Pig in Mud!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3741
To: ROB LIBRIZZI Date: 09/21/93 11:19p
Subj: Re: NEW CD'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Boris,
>> What date(s) are on the DR series of CD's. are they
>> 1992-1993, mostly 1993 or are there a bunch of 1991 & 1992
>> files ???
Mostly 92-93 and very few 91's....
If we can be of any further help, please feel free to call us at
216-225-3263 anytime.
Hope this helps......
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3742
To: KEN UHRICK Date: 09/21/93 11:19p
Subj: Re: Southern Beauties Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=>> Quoting Boris Osadciw to Bob Jackson <=-
>>> Unfortunately, Ismail's not alone. This CD is being hawked to
>>> sysops in several adult echos/links as "New, Hot, and BBS
>>> Ready". I tried to warn them (hawkers). Told them to read the
>>> back of the jewel case (copyright notice); told them to look
>>> at the "FILES.BBS" files (they're there but useless); etc. I
>>> was told rather impolitely to buzz off. I guess Blaine's got
>>> his work cut out for him (sigh). --- FreeMail 1.07b
BO>> Well, let's put a warning lable on it ...."Southern Beauties - If
BO>> placed on any BBS systems for users access, they will be suide by Blain
BO>> Richards, no if ands or butt's <- sorry for the pun!"
BO>> That'll get there attention !!
>> I FELL that sellers need to tell users that its not a bbs
>> disk befor selling it too sysops
I totally agree and we do tell our customers if a cd is BBS ready, even
those like Shareware 1993 - Games 1883 and Windows 1993 ( which we don't
carry ) we explain that these cd's require a lot of work to get them to be
BBS ready, even though they say thier BBS Ready.
>> i MITE BE NUTTS but the sellers dont care or some thing it
>> that sell A non bbs cd-rom AS bbs ready
In our case, we DO CARE about our customers and we'll do whatever we can
to make them happy.
Later.....
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3743
To: PHILIP MARTELLI Date: 09/21/93 11:19p
Subj: Re: Educational CD-ROM Software, Software for partially Sighted Refer: NONE
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>> I work for an Educational Trust fund that is always looking
>> for new software on CD-ROM. Our main requirement is that the
>> software has real classroom value, not just a pretty toy.
>>
>> In particular we are interested in text databases,
>> dictionaries, encyclopaedias etc, that do not use a graphical
>> interface - as certain hardware used for partially sighted
>> students cannot handle GUIs.
We have an author that is currently working on just such a CD!
We'll post the info as soon as it's ready for shipping.
Need any additional information, please netmail us to the address
below or call us direct at 216-225-3263 and we'll be happy to
assist you further.
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3744
To: ANTON SWART Date: 09/21/93 11:19p
Subj: Re: Thanx Refer: NONE
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>> THanx i got KQ6 2dya
>> pleasure doing bizzness!
>> cheers
>> l8ta
Glad to hear it!!
Enjoy....
Boris Osadciw
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3745
To: POE LIM Date: 09/21/93 11:21p
Subj: Cr562b Cd-rom Drive Refer: NONE
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Hi Poe!
On 09-18-93 Poe Lim wrote to Rowan Evans...
PL> Hello Rowan,
PL>
PL> On Sep 14 20:40 in a msg to Michael Cooper, Rowan Evans of 3:711/413
PL> wrote:
PL>
PL> > You'd be disappointed with the throughput of a SCSI CD-ROM after
PL> > seeing a CR562B in action!
PL>
PL> I really have to try this bit out; must get a 562B and run
PL> it against my 3401 to rate throughput. And I wonder how
PL> would the CR-503 compare; it would be the easiest solution
PL> as I don't have to get a new soundcard, and I can take 2
PL> more SCSI devices.
Please do! I'd be *MOST* interested in the results. Until then, I'll stand
by my statements that SCSI CD-ROMs are slow compared to the CR-562B/CR563!
Using the CR503 is a bit unfair to the other CD-ROM drives though - it has
a 256Kb buffer according to the spex....
PL> > SB 2.0 compat..) and the SB16 ASP comes out a close third with the
PL> > option of the Wave Blaster wave table synthesis daughter card and
PL> > will allow the attachment of a CR562B, so I went with the SB16 ASP!
PL> > Haven't been disappointed yet!
PL>
PL> How's the sound like for the SB16 ASP? I've read some people saying
PL> it's not that good, and doesn't do SB Pro and you'd be better off
PL> with the PAS 16, then others say it's pretty good.
Well, I do believe that the sound output of the PAS in 16-bit mode is a
little better than the SB Pro or 16/16 ASP, but the difference is not
*THAT* great and a poor set of speakers on either card will make it
appear worse than it is!
PL> From memory you may have had the chance to compare the two; just
PL> wondering if it's worth it going that way, or I'd be better
PL> off with a SB Pro first, and wait for the new OPL.
As you're already running a SCSI CD-ROM, why not look at the new, cheaper
PAS 16 without the SCSI host adapter??
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3746
To: TOM BULUM Date: 09/21/93 11:21p
Subj: Re: Panasonic CD drive Refer: NONE
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Hi Tom!
On 09-16-93 Tom Bulum wrote to Rowan Evans...
TB> -=> Rowan Evans was heard mumbling to Gaetano Calia about
TB> -=> Re: Panasonic CD drive<=-
TB>
TB> RE> Depends on what you're looking at... The 4.0 SBCD.SYS was plenty
TB> RE> fast, but would "jerk" in T7G when moving & playing sound...
TB> RE> 4.10 beta & 4.11 appear to have fixed the problem.....
TB>
TB> I've got SBCD.SYS V4.11 but I use another file,
TB> SBPCD_V2.SYS which is version 2.00 . Any ideas which one is better?
Haven't seen the SBPCD_V2.SYS driver.... I'll have to logon to the
Creative Pacific BBS and see if its there.... What does it say about
the CD-ROM drives it supports? The older SBPCD.SYS did not work with
the CR-562B/CR563 drives (so Steve Harrington told me!).....
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3747
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/21/93 11:21p
Subj: Panasonic Cdrom Refer: NONE
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Hi Boris!
On 09-18-93 Boris Osadciw wrote to All...
BO> )))))))))))))))))) P A N A S O N I C 5 6 2 ((((((((((((((((((((
BO> The ALL NEW Panosonic 562 is here and ready for delievery!!
BO> 340ms access time / 300kps transfer rate
^^^
Why then does my manual for the above-mentioned CD-ROM drive say 320ms
in double speed mode?? <g>
o
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 3748
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/21/93 11:21p
Subj: Pro Audio Studio 16Xl Refer: NONE
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RE> Wavetable wasn't (still isn't) a priority, however it's nice to know
RE> that I can connect a Wave Blaster to my SB 16 ASP when it does becom
RE>so!
Do yourself a favour, hear a few of your favourite games with a decent
wavetable synth. Waveblaster is a dead-end product, mainly because it is
all ROM and no RAM, so you (or game developers) can't add custom samples
and patches. The PAS-XL will have both RAM/ROM, which is certainly
superior to the WB. The problem with ROM based patches, is that you
start hearing the same instruments in all your games...
RE> As for the two wavetable cards you mentioned, the GUS SCSI is *STILL
RE> not available and I don't know whether the Roland has CD-ROM support
RE> onboard.....
Whats the issue here? There are plenty of good SCSI controllers
avaiable. This is a popular misconception, the CD rom controller does
NOT have to be on the soundcard, it is quite independent. A dedicated
SCSI card will be of a higher quality than one on a Soundcard anyhow.
I am using a GUS with a TEXEL 3024 drive, and an Adaptec SCSI card. No
probs.
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From: SCOTT GOLBY Number: 3749
To: LEE NOGA Date: 09/21/93 11:21p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Vol II-N Refer: NONE
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Hi Lee,
With this New Busty Babes disk have you made a better effort to
remove the pictures that have come from Playboy magazine? I saw well
over 50 in the Busty Babes I have here. I saw next to none from
Penthouse, but plenty from Playboy.
'C' ya... Scott Golby
sgolby@st.nepean.uws.edu.au
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From: SCOTT GOLBY Number: 3750
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/21/93 11:21p
Subj: Catalogs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi there,
AS> If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave your
AS> mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
If you can Netmail or EMial it, I'll take one thanks.
Please send to. Scott Golby 3:713/616 (Fidonet)
or sgolby@st.nepean.uws.edu.au (Internet)
Thanks.
'C' ya... Scott Golby
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From: ALAN WHITEMORE Number: 3751
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/21/93 11:21p
Subj: panasonic 562b Refer: NONE
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Hello Rowan!
AW>> Well that last line is wrong. If I unplug the cable connecting the
AW>> CD-ROM to the line-in on the SB whilst an audio piece is playing, I
AW>> lose all sound. How can the line-in be for recording purposes =only=?
RE> What type of Audio piece are we talking about here Alan?? I mean, you're
RE> getting pretty strict at correcting me (I don't mind it if I'm wrong
RE> <g>).. and then you don't provide sufficient info to let me know *EXACTLY*
RE> what you're doing!
I agree that I could have been clearer. The audio I mentioned is the audio
from multimedia applications and not audio CD.
AW>> There's no doubt that SB 16 or SB pro are good
AW>> solutions for the 562B in that they can used for the interface card as
AW>> well as sound but for me at least, there doesn't seem to be any point
AW>> in upgrading a SB mono card that is currently providing perfectly good
AW>> sound. When I want to listen to Audio CD's, I reach around and unplug
AW>> the cable from the line out on the SB and plug it into the 'phone'
AW>> jack on the CD-ROM drive. Big deal.
RE> There appears to be some contradiction here.... You said earlier "unplug
RE> the cable connecting the CD-ROM to the line-in on the SB whilst an audio
RE> piece is playing"... and now you say you have to move the speaker cable
RE> from line out to the headphone socket of the CD-ROM to hear an audio
RE> CD...
I have a cable running from the external red & white connectors on the
CD-ROM interface card to the line-in on the SB mono. This cable appears to
provide the audio - from MM apps NOT audio CD's ;-), and if I unplug that
cable whilst the MM app is running, the sound is abruptly cut off. This was
my basic test to prove that the line-in wasn't just for recording purposes
as had been suggested.
RE> What gives??
I have two choices when I want to listen to audio CD's through the 562-b.
Either unplug the cable from the line out on the SB and move it to the jack
on the front of the CDROM drive, or plug a set of headphones into the 562b
jack.
RE> 1. The mono SB 1.0/1.5/2.0 WILL provide sound for multimedia
RE> applications and, unless you want stereo sound and a CD-ROM
RE> controller on the sound card, you don't have to buy anything
RE> else....
RE> 2. The mono SB (etc) WILL NOT allow you to hear Audio CDs though
RE> the speakers connected to the SB, even if you have the CD-ROM
RE> drive headphone jack connected to line-in of the SB and [MCI]
RE> CD Audio loaded....
RE> Is this correct from your testing?? If so, please advise so that the
RE> correct (and verified) information amy be passed on to anyone who asks!
This looks pretty clear Rowan. I have to admit I haven't tested whether the
second part of point 2 would work (I don't have a male-male connector). I
think I'd be willing to bet dollars that it wouldn't work.
Regards, Alan
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From: ALAN WHITEMORE Number: 3752
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/21/93 11:21p
Subj: Panasonic 562b + Sb Mono Refer: NONE
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Hello Rowan!
AW>> Just as a matter of interest, how clear is the Audio in your
AW>> encyclopedia using SB 16 ASP? I'm finding the sound quite clear
AW>> through a SB mono, but distortion in the upper and lower ranges is
AW>> quite evident in some of the classical music selections. The animal
AW>> and bird sounds seem crystal clear though.
RE> I think its more the speakers than the sound card, as I like to hear
RE> my Audio CDs fairly *LOUD* and have had a lot of trouble finding a
RE> set of speakers that will cope!
I'm mostly just plugging headphones into the jack on the 562b for audio
CD's. It doesn't drive them as loudly as the typical audio portable CD
player does though. I'm quite impressed that playing an audio CD in the
background has such little impact on Window's performance.
The classical music I mentioned was one of the selections in the STW MPC
encyclopedia. I found the distortion quite evident and just wondered how
much more superior the SB 16 ASP was for MM applications.
Regards, Alan
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From: NEIL BERGMAN Number: 3753
To: BENNY FOSTER Date: 09/21/93 11:22p
Subj: FOR SALE-CD ROMS Refer: NONE
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Both...I can help you with any size order....Large or Small!!!
Thanks,
Neil
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From: NEIL BERGMAN Number: 3754
To: ALL Date: 09/21/93 11:22p
Subj: SPECIAL CD-ROM PRICES!! Refer: NONE
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SHORELINE CD-ROM'S DISCOUT PRICES!!!
These are just a few examples of our low prices...We have over 300
titles in stock.
WINWARE III $15.53
SOFTWARE VAULT 2 (1993) $18.54
MONSTER DISC(2-DISCS SHAREW.) $36.23
OUR SOLAR SYSTEM $14.66
COOK BOOK HEAVEN $18.95
HAM RADIO $14.66
CARMEN SAN DIEGO DELUXE $22.43
WING COMMANDER & ULTIMA VI $15.53
WORLD ATLAS (MPC OR DOS) $15.53
KODAK PHOTO CD $15.53
ANIMALS MPC (SAN DIEGO ZOO) $20.70
DAGGER OF AMON RA $32.78 TOO MANY MORE TO LIST!!!
KINGS QUEST V $16.74
LOOM $14.66 FOR A COMPLETE CATALOG, LEAVE
SUPER SHAREWARE/w/SUPER BBS $31.05 E-mail ADDRESS OR POSTAL
TERRORIST GROUP PROFILES (CIA) $31.91 ADDRESS!!!!
NIGHT OWL 9 $30.19
UP ALL NIGHT $18.11
***ADULT***
(MUST BE 18 OR OLDER!!!)
L.A. STRIPPERS (NEW) $44.95 FULL MOTION VIDEO ALBUM(INTERACT)
HIDDEN OBSESSIONS $53.48 FULL MOTION VIDEO
ASIAN LADIES $31.91 (BBS READY)
THINGS CHANGE:MY FIRST TIME $37.09 (XXX 80 MIN FULL MOTION VIDEO)
MOVING FANTASIES $19.85 (BBS READY)
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SOUTHERN BEAUTIES $31.91
STAREWARE $31.91 (BBS READY)
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HIDDEN OBSESSIONS $48.00 (FULL MOTION VIDEO)
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From: GIL MACHIN Number: 3755
To: ERIC CASSIMATIS Date: 09/21/93 11:24p
Subj: Mitsumi CD ROM Drive; So Refer: NONE
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Think Hard Now! Which One is Shinola?
m
EC>- It has an output jack in the front, with a volume control.
EC>- This CDROM does not have a SCSI device, but rather an 8-bit card wit
EC>some dip switches, two sets of pins (irq and DMA), and a 40 (I think)
EC>pin flat-ribbon cable coming out of it
EC>- It, most importantly, doesn't have a caddie! You press the face of t
EC>CDROM, it clicks out and you then pull the remainder out, open the top
EC>up and plop the CD into the casing ....
EC>
EC>If this is so, please confirm - or ANYone else out there. I need to
EC>know, so that I can get the mitsumi drivers for OS2.1 .... otherwise I
EC>don't make the transition!
Eric:
The LU 005S has a 16 bit interface card. I think the Tandy drive is an
older drive, same as LU 002? the physical description of the Tandy and the
LU 005S are the same case types. I thinl that OS/2 dravers are aviable but
are third party commerical ($). I do not know of a source,keep reading the
echo somebody will have a source. Gil
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From: MIKE ESPOSITO Number: 3756
To: ALL Date: 09/22/93 2:25a
Subj: NEW BBS Refer: NONE
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CALL THE COOL WORLD BBS. LOTS OF FILES GOOD MESSAGE BASES AND BLUE WAVE
MAIL DOOR. THE NUMBER IS 914-928-6090
SYSOP
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From: NORMAN HAVENS Number: 3757
To: ALL Date: 09/21/93 9:53p
Subj: 1993 Time Almanac ??? Refer: NONE
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A few questions for CD-ROM cognoscenti:
1. Anybody stateside know whether the 1993 edition of the
*Time Almanac* disc is out yet, and if so, what its contents
(years) are and who's selling it most cheaply?
2. Are there any other similarly priced mainstream magazines or
newspapers out on disc now? Even with the *very* poor search &
retrieval program on the *Time* discs, I've found them good
research tools, and I just wish other such sources were available
at that price.
3. Any word on whether/when the Encyclopedia Britannica will come
out on CD-ROM?
Thanks much.
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From: BOB ROMAN Number: 3758
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 09/21/93 9:14p
Subj: SB PRO OR SB 16 Refer: NONE
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AB> Hey all I am in the process of buying a SB PRO or SB 16 to replace my SB
AB> 2.0 since I have a CD-ROM and the regular SB cannot handle the CD-ROM
AB> output, I just wanna know which of these card would be a good choice and
I too traded it my Sound Blaster v2.0 and got the Sound Blaster Pro
and love it. The Pro will handle all your games and multimedia,
interface with the CD-Rom; all in stereo.
Bob Roman, Oakville, On.
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From: BOB ROMAN Number: 3759
To: STEVE WON Date: 09/21/93 9:18p
Subj: SBPro, does it have a lim Refer: NONE
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SW> I have heard, (maybe just rumor) that the CD interface on the SB Pro is
SW> limited to a data transfer rate of 150 kb/s. Does anyone know if this
SW> is true or not? I don't have one yet, but I may buy a Panasonic 562B
SW> and if this is true, I may have to get a SB clone type card. If this
SW> data transfer is true, then it would essentially eliminate the
SW> effectiveness of the double spin, 300 kb/s 562B.
Music is played at 150kb. When you have a double spin drive it will
only, and only has to, transfer music at 150kb.
Bob Roman, Oakville, On.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3760
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/21/93 11:31a
Subj: Q'S ON THESE NEW PANASON Refer: NONE
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> Just pulled out the datasheet from work....
> The only differences listed between the CR562B and the CR503 are :-
What is the DTR on the CR503 (not the Max rate, the CONTINUOUS rate)?
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3761
To: JOE PATTERSON Date: 09/21/93 1:19p
Subj: OS/2 CD ROM WITH MAXIMUS. Refer: NONE
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> AF> is the best one that will work with Maximus/2? I have
> AF> been looking at the mitsumi
>Allen, if your running OS/2 you will need a SCSI drive.
There are Mitsumi drivers for OS/2 out there somewhere, per widespread
reports....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3762
To: SCOTT PERRY Date: 09/21/93 1:40p
Subj: LOW QUALITY CDS???????? Refer: NONE
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>Brice, you think VGA spectrum is low quality?
It had WAY too much redundancy for my taste - basically was a less-than 160 Meg
disc in actual effect.
>Check out the SVGA GIF pictures
I did - and I now have almost ALL of them on "other" discs in my collection.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3763
To: KEVIN PLUMMER Date: 09/21/93 4:05p
Subj: DEALERS WANTED ! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>==========>>>>>> W A N T E D D E A L E R S <<<<<<===========
> Wanting people to become Dealers, Or to distribute to Dealers
> Call Mutli-Media and ask for:
> Susan Burbank
Or any one of about 5 different names so far....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3764
To: JOSEPH ROBERTSON Date: 09/21/93 4:07p
Subj: MULTI-SPIN CD-ROM DRIVES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>for under US$200. There is a much be GM>drive available For around US$250.
This
>drive is a Panasonic(sp) #562B
> Where have you seen this Panasonic drive advertised for $250.00?
$249 - CD ROM Source in Indianapolis, (317) 726-0022
I don't remember if this is their "bare" price or their "bundled with CDs"
price, though it DID include the (propriatary interface) controller card.
>Can you use a SCSI interface with the drive
Panasonic is supposedly coming out with a SCSI version of this drive, I have No
hard data on it yet though.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3765
To: ERIC STAUFER Date: 09/21/93 4:11p
Subj: GIFS GALORE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Does anyone have any descriptions whatsoever for a Cd called GIFs
>Galore by Walnut Creek CD-ROM?
I have partial descriptions, but it's TBBS specific format (you will have to
edit them for anything else, basically remove some of the data in columns is
all) and I've NOT got very far into the disc so far....
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From: LOUIS SOKOL Number: 3766
To: JOHN BENJAMIN Date: 09/21/93 7:34a
Subj: CD carousels Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JB> I'm looking for a multiple carousel CD for my BBS that will
JB> holda minimum of 3 to 5 CD's. Need price, make, model & availability
Call me at 713/265-1010 for information on the OPTI-NET stacked CD players,
SCSI or non-SCSI. JET Computer Services.
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From: PAT RILEY Number: 3767
To: JOHN ENGLAND Date: 09/21/93 11:55a
Subj: Mitsumi crmc-lu005s Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JE**I have a Mitsumi CDMC-LU005S CD-ROM drive for sale. Only a few months old,
**still have receipt, box, and docs. With 16-bit controller card. Will sell f
**$150.00 or best offer. I will pay for UPS shipping. (This is not John, this
**Jeff. I can be reached at (215)675-8886 or via this conference.)
$120.00 ?
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From: TANYA BROCK Number: 3768
To: ALL Date: 09/21/93 12:11p
Subj: Giga Games Refer: NONE
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Has anyone seen a CDROM called GIGA GAMES? I saw it advertised in the
latest issue of PC Magazine. It was in an ad from Walnut Creek so I
would assume that they produced it. Any info would be appreciated and
if anyone was it cheaper than the $39.95 it was advertised for I would
be interested to hear from you.
Thanks!
... C D ROM. C D ROM spin.
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 3769
To: CHRIS SNYDER Date: 09/22/93 8:47a
Subj: Cd for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Chris!
18 Sep 93, Chris Snyder writes to All Users:
CS> The Software Toolworks Cd Deluxe 2.
CS> Includes: TST's World Atlas, US Atlas, Reference Library and the game,
CS> The Secret of Monkey Island.
Will take it! Need address! 512-939-9822
Pat
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 3770
To: CHRIS SNYDER Date: 09/23/93 9:22a
Subj: Cd for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Chris!
21 Sep 93, Chris Snyder writes to All Users:
CS> The Software Toolworks Cd Deluxe 2.
CS> Includes: TST's World Atlas, US Atlas, Reference Library and the game,
CS> The Secret of Monkey Island.
CS> $15 or make me an offer, will ship USPS 2nd day for $2.
Will take it need address 512-939-9822
Pat
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 3771
To: NEIL HARFERT Date: 09/23/93 6:11p
Subj: 7TH GUEST Refer: NONE
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Hello Neil!
21 Sep 93, Neil Harfert writes to Pat Rickerson:
NH> Thanks for the response. I'm definitely interested. Would the game run
NH> on a 386 DX 25 with SVGA? If I don't buy the 486 50v I'd want to upgrade
NH> my PC with a CDROM and 7th Guest sounds like a neat one! You said
NH> something about a video? Is this an instructional/guide video for the
NH> game? PLS respond via this echo! I can send cashier's check payable to
NH> you for the $35 plus shipping (should only be a couple-a-bucks). THX -
NH> Neil -+- TBBS v2.1/NM + Origin: The File Bank, Inc. (303) 534-4646 -
I have a friend that runs it on a 386 seems to be fine he says. The viedo is
about the makings of the game, its real nice. You can send me $40 that will
cover shipping, as it is in a box like the sierra games come in.(viedo is on
VHS)
411 Ninth St. NAS
Corpus Christi, Tx 78418
Pat
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 3772
To: NIEL EYDE Date: 09/23/93 6:17p
Subj: $99 CD ROM DRIVE Refer: NONE
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Hello Niel!
22 Sep 93, Niel Eyde writes to All:
NE> For any lurkers interested in getting into CDROM, check out your local
NE> Radio Shack. I've just picked up one of there CDR-1000 for $99. The
NE> drive won't break any speed records, but if your interested in shareware
NE> CD's you may want to check it out. By the way, it is also MPC compliant,
NE> although it will run a tad-bit slow. There are closed-out so you way
have
NE> to do some digging. In my case I had to prepay for one, and they got it
NE> in within a couple of days.
Sure isn't like that here in Texas! (Checked it out today, they thought I was
nuts)
Pat
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From: DOMINIQUE PERRON Number: 3773
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/22/93 6:42p
Subj: SPECIAL CD-ROM PRICES!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NEIL BERGMAN wrote in a message to ALL:
NB> These are just a few examples of our low prices...We
NB> have over 300 titles in stock.
Please send me a calalog:
Dominique Perron
PB # 76012
Aylmer, Quebec, Canada
J9H 4P1
Thx.
Cheers
Dom
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From: ROBERT POWELL Number: 3774
To: ROGER SMITH Date: 09/21/93 12:12p
Subj: PANASONIC CR562B Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RP> Point #1 - If you take reasonable care of your equipment you are
RP> UNLIKELY to damage a CD disk.
RS>Yes, but just damage one expensive CD and you may wish you had had it
RS>in a caddy.
Yes, and if a meteor hits your house you will regret not buying a house
in a different subdivision. Back it up with facts. How often can one
expect to destroy a disk in a caddyless drive? It is easy to present
"what if" arguments that on the surface seem to have merit. It is not
always so easy to support those arguments with facts. You might argue
that you have never lost a disk using your caddy drive. Big deal, I
have never damaged one and I have never used a caddy drive except for
demos in computer stores. In fact, as I have stated earlier I have been
using music CDs since 1986 and have yet to frag the first one. And that
includes using them in car and portable CD players. These are
conditions much more severe than a computer CDs are ever likely to
experience.
Maybe you can tell me why this echo isn't filled with complaints from
the numerous people buying what you would refer to as "cheap" Mitsumi
drives because their CDs are dying at catastrophic rates. Could it
be because it is not happening? Also you also might want to consider
that the makers of truly expensive CD programs usually offer some type
of replacement policy for damaged disks at a nominal cost. When
purchasing a program you are not just purchasing the media the program
comes on, you are purchasing a license to use the program. Any software
publisher who does not provide support to those ends is definitely not
worthy of my business.
RS>No. But for the most part, only the less expensive drives are
RS>caddy-less.
True, but why pay 300 for a MPC 1 Sony when the Mitsumi can be had for
100 less and why buy caddies unless they are needed? The Panasonic
562B, a MPC 2 compatible drive, can be had for the same price other
makers of caddy drives charge for a MPC 1 caddy drive. Compare the cost
of a NEC double spin drive to a 562B and you'll find the Panasonic at
half the cost.
RS>Caddies are only about $5 each which is not much to protect discs
RS>that can cost a lot more than $40.
At mail order prices yes, but then again at mail order prices the
average cost of disks the average home user is likely to purchase is
less than $40. Why spend the extra money for the drive and then for a
caddy for each CD unless you really need it?
RS>Or if you simply prefer the safety and CONVENIENCE that a caddy drive
RS>offers.
Taking a disk out of a CD case, placing it in a caddyless drive and
storing it back into CD case is hardly inconvenient. It takes only a
few seconds and is such a simple task that it can be easily mastered
by all but the physically impaired. All you really need to do is handle
the CD by the edges. If you do accidentally put a thumb print on the
CD, it's not ruined, just clean it. Have you ever heard anyone say
how "INCONVENIENT" using music CDs is and demand the industry return to
vinyl records. Not hardly.
RS>Point #6. Caddies make it as easy to switch CDs as it is to switch
RS>floppies without worrying about being extra careful.
It is not a matter of being "extra careful" but a matter of exercising
prudent judgment in the handling of your equipment. Again, CDs are not
as fragile as you would lead us to believe. Certainly I would not leave
them laying around outside of the CD case but I also would not leave 5
1/4 floppies laying around without placing them in paper jackets. In
fact, I would not leave floppies laying around at all but would place
then in storage cases. However, if you to treat your equipment in that
manner you certainly should consider buying a caddy drive.
RS>I really think that it makes no sense to purchase a caddy-less CDROM
RS>drive unless you don't really think you're going to use the CDROM
RS>drive very often (and in that case, it may not make much sense to buy
RS>a CDROM drive).
Yes and I don't know of anyone that has died from the lack of owning a
computer either. That doesn't mean that I wouldn't recommend buying one
to anybody that can afford one. Certainly, buying a CDROM will open up
a new world of capabilities for anyone. Just as I would not recommend
that everyone buy a Pentium machine with a 2 Gig HD and a 21 inch
monitor I would not recommend that everyone purchase a NEC multispin
caddy CD drive (I don't have any thing against the NECs so please no
replies from angry NEC owners). I would try to judge their needs, what
they could afford, what is cost effective, and then I would recommend
equipment accordingly.
As I have said before, caddy drives have their place in this world as do
caddyless drives. Certainly if you allow your children to use your
computer without supervision, especially if they are young; if you have
a physical impairment which makes the handling of CDs difficult; if you
pay your secretary minimum wage and she/he is pissed off at you for not
giving her/him what she/he feels they deserve; if you routinely
use your equipment in a careless manner; or if you don't mind spending
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From: KEVIN MARTIN Number: 3775
To: CHRIS DONNEGAN Date: 09/22/93 5:56p
Subj: PANASONIC CD NO MORE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On Sep 21 00:12, Chris Donnegan of 1:124/5125 wrote:
CD> Well, it seems he was right. I called Panasonic HQ today and, after a
CD> merry round of phone hopping (it was like calling the Pentagon, if
CD> you've ever done that), was told that PANASONIC NO LONGER
CD> MANUFACTURES CD-ROM DRIVES!! I was stunned.
CD> Has anyone else heard this?
No. Which number/company did you call? Matsushita Electric company is the
parent company, and it is a division of Matsushita that manufactures the
CD Roms. If you called the vibrator division (or whatever) you might have
gotten ahold of someone that doesn't know what's going on.
Kevin
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From: SAM BECKWITH Number: 3776
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/22/93 5:44p
Subj: 10 Line Limit Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
BH>10 line limit in this echo.
Bob,
I apologize for breaking the line limit for advertising...the day after
I posted my ad I received your posting of the rules. I was unaware of
this rule and have no problem with it.
Thanks,
Sam
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From: PAUL PYATT Number: 3777
To: CHRIS FLYNN Date: 09/15/93 3:25p
Subj: CD ROM Catologues Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* In a message originally to Tim Gavin-Wear, Chris Flynn said:
> TG> Can anyone supply me with or point me in the right direction for
> TG> CD-ROM catologues ?
>Leave me your BBS or fax number and I'll send mine.
Can you fax one to 0424 438467 also
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From: JOOP STOKVIS Number: 3778
To: JERRY MILLIKIN Date: 09/19/93 3:42p
Subj: NEW CD TITLES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Jerry!
Please send me more information and catalog!
Joop Stokvis
C/o BBS Waterland
PObox 1196
1440 BD Purmerend
The Netherlands
Groeten!
Joop
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From: JOOP STOKVIS Number: 3779
To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN Date: 09/19/93 3:43p
Subj: SHAREWARE EXPLORER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Michellea!
Please send me more information and catalog!
Joop Stokvis
C/o BBS Waterland
PObox 1196
1440 BD Purmerend
The Netherlands
Groeten!
Joop
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From: RUSSELL BOYCE Number: 3780
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/21/93 12:29p
Subj: MITSUMI CD ROM DRIVE; SOU Refer: NONE
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> >The sound galaxy NX pro plus card has two proprietary AT interfaces for both
>
> >Panasonic and Mitsumi drives
>
> Will it run both of those drives at once?
Since the Mitsumi requires a seperate interface card for each drive installed
in a system I doubt that.You may be able to use the SCSI interface at the same
time you have a Mitsumi attached however.
I placed this information in the echo mainly for those with the older Mitsumi
and Tandy drive as this may be a way to get a little more speed from them
being a 16-bit interface.
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From: RON FINDLING Number: 3781
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/20/93 5:04a
Subj: Re: OS/2 CD-ROM support Refer: NONE
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RF> I'd LOVE to have answered all this stuff (I even took on a Microsoft
RF> employee once on this kind of thing, so I'll take anyone on), but it
RF> was getting way too off topic.
> I agree. I'd love to continue over on OS2HW, if you like.
Unfortunately, I don't have easy access... however, this should make you
happy: the MS employee I told you I was arguing with (OS/2 vs. NT) is now
quite upset with me, and has promised to get me an NT demo by an NT
developer should I ever get to Vancouver. Unfortunately, all the demos
in the world don't give me enough RAM and HD space to run it properly...
===========================================================================
(SCSI devices)
> True. When I say "stay", I mean of course, "stay
>away from non-SCSI devices". It is *VERY* expensive to
>dump what one already has and upgrade to SCSI. Buying SCSI
>initially is not as large a hit, especially when one does
>not have to buy an additional hard drive controller.
Yup, so probably the best people for this kind of advice is for new
people who are just about to buy all-new hardware. Regarding CD-ROM
drives, for example, one just has so many more choices with an SCSI
interface.
======================================================================
RF> It is a given, though - you want to use a CD-ROM drive under OS/2, go
RF> SCSI if at all possible.
> It has many benefits, even under DOS, and if one
>upgrades to OS/2, the path is all that much smoother.
Hopefully oneday and SCSI device *and* CD-ROM drive become standard
equipment, sold on all new PCs. But the companies for the last coupla
years have been such bean counters they won't even include 16550AFN
UARTs on their I/O cards... an utterly necessary thing for multitasking
high speed communications that's cheap to do - but they don't!
So whereas we sometimes DO see bundled CD-ROM drives with new systems,
they tend to be non-SCSI, and slow, too. Depressing...
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From: RON FINDLING Number: 3782
To: WILLIAM SCHNEIDER, JR. Date: 09/20/93 5:08a
Subj: OS/2 CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Anybody out there know of any good OS/2 CD-ROM titles? I've seen one
>in the store (I think it was called 'Hobbes OS/2', and it was only
>$21.00, but I don't know what's on it! It's bad enough that you can't
>find any commercial app's in stores, so I'll support any good shareware
>I can find!
Have it... the version I have (and as far as I know there is only one
version) has SOME decent stuff, but it's all pretty old... for example,
there's an old IBM servicepack for OS/2 2.0, a demo for Describe 3.0
(it's now up to 4.0) and similar stuff.
If you have absolutely no access to OS/2 stuff elsewhere, then I'd say
get it, but otherwise not. And anyone who knows they've made (a) newer
version(s) with newer stuff, please correct me...
And as for getting OS/2 stuff in stores... bug the store people! They
won't know people want it until they're told...
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From: RON FINDLING Number: 3783
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/20/93 5:46a
Subj: Re: CD's in the backgrou Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> There is a DOS based CD Player on Night Owl 8 (CDPLAY2.ZIP I believe)
> that operates as a TSR and *DOES* allow you to do other things in DOS
> while you're listening to a CD.... I've often used it to play a CD
> while I do my echo mail downloads at 14.4Kbps using telemate 4.00 in
> DOS......
Unless you've got *great* hardware, though, it'll be quite jumpy when
doing things like disk access.
One great advantage of OS/2 not many people know about is how it can
multi-thread DOS apps. The INT_DURING_IO setting allows for sound
card interrupts to still be serviced during disk accesses, something
regular DOS is incapable of.
This means that even on a slower computer one can still do disk access
and still get *smooth* sound for DOS apps.
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From: DAVID HO Number: 3784
To: ALL Date: 09/21/93 7:22p
Subj: QUESTION ABOUT CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am going to buy a CD-ROM drive but I have little knowledge about it.
After I have read some advertisment of CD-ROM drive, I have a few question
about what the advertisment said.
The question are -
1. What is photo CD-compatibility ? I found that some drives with
multi-session photo CD-compatibility and some drives with single-session
photo CD-compatibility. What is the different between single and
multi-session ?
2. Is it important that the drive with photo CD-compatibility ?
3. What is xa-ready for CD-ROM drive ?
4. Is it important that the drive is xa-ready ?
5. Some drives stated that it has 660 MB capacity and some has 550 MB
capacity. Can the 550 MB drive play all the cd-rom that same as what
the 660 MB does ?
That 's all.
Thanks in advance who would like to help me.
David
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From: KEN CROWSON Number: 3785
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 09/21/93 7:30p
Subj: MAIL ORDER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please include my name on you mailing list for CD-ROM sales catalogs.
Ken Crowson
1353 Bluebell Way
El Cajon, CA 92021
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From: CHRISTIAN BUHL Number: 3786
To: CATALINO ALVAREZ Date: 09/21/93 5:01p
Subj: Re: Good deal? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thanx for the info about the CD-ROM, Ive decided to get the faster one!
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From: MIKE GRIFFIN Number: 3787
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/22/93 10:43a
Subj: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Adrian!
16 Sep 93 14:08, Adrian Salas wrote to All:
AS> ***************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION ****************
AS> If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave your
AS> mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
Do you take major credit cards?
Mike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 3788
To: ALL Date: 09/25/93 1:19a
Subj: BRAND NEW OS/2 CD-ROM! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
We are now taking pre-orders on the following title.
Title: CD OS/2BOX Price: $29
* Slick, mouse-driven graphic user interface for OS/2
* Consists of 100% OS/2 2.0+ shareware applications. No old version
1.x files * Fully BBS-ready * 300+mb total
* To begin shipping around 1st week in October * FREE s/h on preorders
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 3789
To: ALL Date: 09/25/93 1:19a
Subj: BRAND NEW CD TITLES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
| Starvector Sales Bulletin #1: NEW CD ARRIVALS |
DINOSAURS! * Fabulous interactive, multimedia Dinosaur directory on CD.$48
DR. MUSIC * Brand new offering loaded with sound and music files.......$20
FIREARMS REFERENCE * Details on 600+ guns w/ 256-color images..........$30
LEARNING HEAVEN * Mind challenging educational games...................$23
DR. WINDOWS * Games, utilities, productivity, business, it's all here..$20
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)
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From: DAVE WONG Number: 3790
To: MAURICE VILLARREAL Date: 09/24/93 2:26p
Subj: Discount Cd-Roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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From: DAVE WONG Number: 3791
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/24/93 2:41p
Subj: SPECIAL CD-ROM PRICES!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
anyway of sending a catalog of prices. i'm very interested.
to: Dave Wong
2504 s ferdinand
seattle, wa 98108
thanks
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From: DAVE WONG Number: 3792
To: STEVE GREENO Date: 09/24/93 2:48p
Subj: CD-ROM CATALOG Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
well steve, how about sending me a catalog. to: Dave wong
2504 s ferdinand
seattle, wa 98108
thanks
--- Maximus 2.01wb
* Origin: Sea East PC Exchange (1:343/15)
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 3793
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 09/24/93 6:48a
Subj: CD-ROM GAMES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AB>Okay Henry, in Space Quest 4, I got to Space Quest X where I get cought
AB>by some women, wow, anyway they want to torture me but a slug comes and
AB>I save them and they say to go to shopping and I do it, and they leave
AB>me and I cannot find them, anyway I got like 96 buckaziods, a new set of
AB>clothes, a SQ4 hint book and Hint Revealer,a cigar butt and a ATM card,
AB>now I tried to get out of the mall but did not succed and just got shot
AB>so I tried to go into each of the shops and in the aracde a time travel
AB>police came in and I went out, well that's where I am, now what do I do
AB>to get out of here, and I am 16. well hope you can help me, C-ya and
Okay, well, you aren't done yet.... Did you buy a dress yet? That's how
you use the ATM card. They've got $2,000 in their account. When the
guards do come, go straight to the sket-o-rama. swim up to the ceiling
and to the other side. When the guards come, go down and out. Move on
out to the arcade as fast as you can. Jump in the timepod and zoooom!
Hope this helps,
Henry
* OLX 2.1 TD * CD-ROM to other: What kind of car is that? It's a CADDY!
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From: CHRISTIAN BUHL Number: 3794
To: ALL Date: 09/25/93 12:23p
Subj: cd-rom's wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I just purchased my new CD-Rom drive, and now I need some software to
use with it, I am particularly interested in games and education (mostly
games) and ESPECIALLY the 7th guest, the cheapest I've seen it is $39,
can anyone out there top that?
--- WM v3.01/93-0144
* Origin: Grace Under Pressure-Orlando, FL 407-657-8801 (1:363/194.0)
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 3795
To: BOB ROMAN Date: 09/24/93 10:42p
Subj: SB PRO OR SB 16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Okay thanx, but I see in different magazines that SB 16 is a better
technology and all this upgrading to ASP and stuff, well since the price
difference is not too much, I guess I will go with the best they have to
offer, thanx and TTYL.
Ashwin
--- WM v2.03/92-0157
* Origin: Hawk's Nest BBS Methuen, Ma. (508) 688-1979(1:324/123)
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From: THOMAS KERRIGAN Number: 3796
To: KURT LARSEN Date: 09/22/93 5:53p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I think that is true, I have same and only Cd-Rom by Matsushita (panasonic and
others have to check) will work. Should be able to contact Sound Blaster
people by number in your docs.
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* Origin: Greetings from the Manhattan's Connection BBS! (1:2800/90)
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From: THOMAS KERRIGAN Number: 3797
To: CHRISTIAN BUHL Date: 09/22/93 5:55p
Subj: Re: Good deal? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Sounds good check speed, others you have to match Drive and Sound card very
tricky if in remote rural area.
--- GEcho 1.00
* Origin: Greetings from the Manhattan's Connection BBS! (1:2800/90)
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From: DAN POLIVY Number: 3798
To: ALL Date: 09/25/93 10:17a
Subj: Night owl 9 cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone have Night Owl 9 CDROM for sale? I am looking for a copy.
DAn
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* Origin: Kids And Cops * Lynn, MA * (617) 599-2499 * (1:101/290)
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From: LANGSTON GOLDFINCH Number: 3799
To: TARQUINN WATSON Date: 09/25/93 6:15p
Subj: Pioneer 6 pack Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Tarquinn!
24 Sep 93, Tarquinn Watson writes to Dean Mackin:
TW> downloading. I do have a seperate sever for the DRMs, and it copies the
TW> file to a staging directry on a ultra fast scsi hard drive. I have heard
How did you set up a staging directory? I have a 6pack and four nodes and
nothing I have tried works too well (large buffers, doors)
Regards
Langston
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From: JOHN KELLEY Number: 3800
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/24/93 8:19p
Subj: RED HOT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Boris --
I have been notified by another vendor that Night Owl 10 will be
released shortly. Is this indeed true? If it is, when do you expect to
have it? Do you have a price yet?
John
Satisfied Customer in NJ
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■ QMPro 1.50 00-1232 ■ Never try to out-stubborn a cat.
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* Origin: MicroFone 14 Gigs 16 Lines V.32b 908-494-8666 (1:107/331)
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From: TINA ROCK Number: 3801
To: RON FINDLING Date: 09/25/93 12:00a
Subj: RE: OS/2 CD-ROM SUPPORT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Beggin your pardon sir, but how can a CD-ROM drive be non-SCSI?
Tina Rock
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 3802
To: ROB PERELMAN Date: 09/25/93 1:15p
Subj: FREE CATALOG Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Mike Mulcahy
9300 Hamilton Drive
Fairfax, VA 22031
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* Origin: Fairfax, VA/michael.mulcahy@his.com (1:109/70.986@fidonet)
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 3803
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/25/93 2:00p
Subj: NEW FIREARMS CD! Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
MS> | Starvector Sales Bulletin #6: HOT NEW CD-ROM! | | Title:
MS> FIREARMS REFERENCE Price: $30 |
MS>
MS> * Features over 600 products from 70 different manufacturers *
MS> 256-color hi-rez images * BBS-Ready in several formats *
MS> Custom-designed Super-VGA interface * Covers every firearm from black
MS> powder rifles, to Class 3 weapons
Is this one MAC compatable Mike?
--- MacWoof 1.5.3
* Origin: Fairfax, VA/michael.mulcahy@his.com (1:109/70.986@fidonet)
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 3804
To: ROGER SMITH Date: 09/24/93 8:11p
Subj: Re: CD Label Program Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Roger Smith to All <=-
RS> I've found a nice, free, program which I have found very useful. It
RS> is a Windows program which prints inserts for CD and CDROM jewel
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Neat program!!
RS> The program is available from the RSBBS in the Windows file area or is
RS> file requestable as CDLAB100.ZIP. The archive is only about 9K in
RS> size. The Visual Basic dynamic library VBRUN100.DLL is required. If
^^^
(BEEP) WRONG!
Actually, it REQUIRES VBRUN200.DLL to run. I got it from your BBS in one
^^^
try (no problem), installed it (no problem), tried to run it (PROBLEM).
The included READ.ME file specifies *200.DLL and the program refuses to
run with *100.DLL or *300.DLL. Luckily, I had all three. Just thought
you'd want to know.
... "U.S.S. Smith, lower your shields and prepare to be boarded!"
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* Origin: Hard Disc Cafe | Houston Texas | (713) 589-2690 | (1:106/30.0)
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 3805
To: ROGER SMITH Date: 09/24/93 12:07p
Subj: CD Label Program Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RS> I've found a nice, free, program which I have found very useful.
RS> a Windows program which prints inserts for CD and CDROM jewel bo
I need this!! I'll be dialing your BBS soonly, thanks!
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* Origin: The Bit Bucket * Houston, Tx * 713/496-9670 * (1:106/9670)
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 3806
To: ANDREW SEE Date: 09/24/93 12:01p
Subj: Your Tagline Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AS> You're not related to Lee Harvey Oswald by any chance?
Probably no more than you are to Josef Stalin. <EOT>
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* Origin: The Bit Bucket * Houston, Tx * 713/496-9670 * (1:106/9670)
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From: VINCENT FERNANDEZ Number: 3807
To: LAURENT MADURAUD Date: 09/20/93 9:24p
Subj: démos... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
salut...
liste des dmos à pomper d'urgence :
(ds l'ordre...)
1 amnesia.zip (renaissance)
2 crystal.zip (triton)
3 monstra.zip
4 panic.zip (future crew)
5 rasters.zip
taille des fichiers : entre 800 et 1.4 Mo
certaines st presentes sur ce bbs
y'en a d'autres plus recentes...
allez...a+.
--- GEcho 1.00
* Origin: ICEBERG - La Garenne * FRANCE * Tel:(33)-1-47699261 (2:320/1)
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From: RHEZA JINA Number: 3808
To: ERIC STAUFER Date: 09/21/93 3:03p
Subj: Gifs Galore Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Eric,
On 09-13-93 06:52, Eric Staufer writes to All :
ES> Does anyone have any descriptions whatsoever for a Cd called
ES> GIFs Galore by Walnut Creek CD-ROM? I called and asked the company but
First of all, I've heard that Walnut Creek had legal problems with this CD
because of copyright violations.
It contains 6,000+ images (on the cover, it says 5,000 but there are more
than 6,000), in 42 categories (art, aviation, cars, flowers, mammals,
people, swimsuit, etc...). There are also viewers for DOS, Amiga, Mac,
Unix, etc... Total 600 MB.
In my opinion, this CD is not very good. Although there are some very good
images, many others are not interesting at all. In fact, it seems that
they tried to fill the disk with all the images they could find (including
many that were copyrighted...). But the CD is cheap, so perhaps it's worth,
but I'm not sure.
Best regards from France !
... Watch where you go...remember where you've been...
--- GEcho 1.00
* Origin: ICEBERG - La Garenne * FRANCE * Tel:(33)-1-47699261 (2:320/1.0)
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 3809
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 09/24/93 10:40p
Subj: CD-ROM GAMES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
well, I got not too many games, hey you know since I cal different
boards which are netted together, I have to answer some of your message
more than once or some old message just pops up, like this one, anyway I
ain't go much to say. TTYL.
Ashwin
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* Origin: Hawk's Nest BBS Methuen, Ma. (508) 688-1979(1:324/123)
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From: JOHN BENJAMIN Number: 3810
To: CATALINO ALVAREZ Date: 09/24/93 9:17a
Subj: Re: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Cat here,
-> Love to get one of your catalogs!
->
-> C. Alvarez Jr
-> 348 Chutney Dr
-> Orlando, FL 32825-3612
->
-> Thanx and Read Ya Later,
-> CAT
Again,
I am NOT the BBS with the CD-ROM catalogs!!!!! I am requesting one
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
from someone else!!!!!!
John Benjamin
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* Origin: MY COZY KITCHEN BBS (407) 687-9355 (1:3609/16.0)
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From: MICHELE STEWART Number: 3811
To: DON SHORTRIDGE Date: 09/24/93 10:57p
Subj: Bbs listing Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Whould please add a new BBS to your list? Name: SECURE BACKUPS Phone
-> Number:
Would you please not address a message to SYSOP in a national echo?
.\\ichele
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* Origin: SunShine PCBoard, So. Florida * 305-432-2223 <HST/DS> (1:369/21)
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From: CHARLES STRUSZ @ 970/201 Number: 3812
To: ALL Date: 09/19/93 11:13a
Subj: Custom cd-rom work Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Just a gentle, less-than-ten-line reminder that InfoQuest is the
Price/Performance choice for CUSTOM CD-ROM work in this echo. We offer to copy
your data directly to CD-ROM - .ZIP files, Programs, .GIF's, huge data files,
even a complete backup of a drive. We offer fast turnaround and unbeatable
prices on single and low quantities:
74 Minute Disk - Aprox 680 Megs - $ 105 plus $9 per 250 Megs 60 Minute Disk -
Aprox 580 Megs - $ 85 plus $9 per 250 Megs Additional Copies - $ 36 each
regardless of size. Call InfoQuest and talk to Terry, Charlie, Ken, Chuck,
Mark, or Rocket! (618) 549-3414
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From: CHARLES STRUSZ @ 970/201 Number: 3813
To: BOB JENKINS Date: 09/20/93 8:24p
Subj: Night owls Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Are there (m)any dupes on earlier NightOwls (2,4,7...) ?
You'll find a few, but much better than their contemporary disks. I haven't
looked at my 2 or 4 in ages, but 5,6,7,8, and 9 are all in continuos use on my
BBS. I figure less than 2% across the series, less than 1% if you omit version
upgrades.
Some disks which compliment the Night Owl with very little duplication are
GigaGold and the Pier Series.
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From: CHARLES STRUSZ @ 970/201 Number: 3814
To: ALL Date: 09/20/93 8:53p
Subj: Extra uploads disks - Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
INFOQUEST UPLOADS DISK - If you're looking for fresh, raw files at a good
price, search no more. Most of you have seen our ads to cut custom CD's...
Well last week I finally got time to clean out my own hard drive to CD Rom.
Since the image is now done, I can sell copies in quantity one fairly cheaply!
The disk is 626 Megs, 4700 files, with files from 92 and 93 only. There are at
least 700 uploads from September, and another 400 or so from August. Copies of
the disk are available for $49, VISA/MC/DISC/COD Accepted. Eurocard get lost.
This disk is NOT to be assumed BBS ready - Unless your BBS can index the disk
like RBBS or PCBoard. What it is is RAW FILES - Uploads of all types,
including animations, euromods, and demos of over a meg each. Most of the
files contain a file_id.diz. The disk represents the file upload activity of a
busy medium-sized BBS. I'm still polishing the descriptions, and many of the
over 1000 TrueType fonts and 100 Project Gutenberg files remain to be
described. The text files on the disk still list many '91 files and trash
files which I axed. I'll be sure to send along the latest file lists on floppy
with your order. I'd suggest that this would be a great disk to nab right now,
since it contains all the latest greatest files from this summer, and there
just hasn't been any new CD stuff shipping!
I'd also suggest that you CD-ROM publishers nab one of these hummers, cause I
didn't grab stuff of any of the BIG shareware cd's! This is all fresh material
that you are going to have to pay to download or sit and zip up from author
submissions!
If you want one of these, better call tomorrow cause they are NOT A MASS
PRODUCED disk. Each one is individually burned when ordered, and it's first
come first served. More profitable CD Recording jobs come first - This offer
is for fun! These CD's can be read in any standard drive, including Magnavox
and Mitsumi's. InfoQuest -- (618) 549-3414
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 3815
To: WENDELL KENNEY Date: 09/25/93 10:44a
Subj: Simms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Wendell!
I don't remember if I told you but I sent the money off for the simms, tolk me
a day as missplaced your address. You should be getting it soon, thanks.
512-939-9822
Pat
--- GoldED 2.40
* Origin: Thin Ice BBS * Corpus Christi, Texas (1:160/9)
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 3816
To: CARL SLAWINSKI Date: 09/25/93 10:42a
Subj: CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Carl!
Did you get the money yet, have not gotten a reply yet, let me know, thanks.
512-939-9822
Pat
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* Origin: Thin Ice BBS * Corpus Christi, Texas (1:160/9)
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 3817
To: JEFF WOERTZ Date: 09/25/93 10:44a
Subj: CD player Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Jeff!
Sent money a little while ago, did you get it yet? please reply so I know
whats going on, thanks.
512-939-9822
Pat
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* Origin: Thin Ice BBS * Corpus Christi, Texas (1:160/9)
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From: STEWART ROTHMAN Number: 3818
To: ALL Date: 09/23/93 3:05p
Subj: CD TITLES WANTED Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm interested in several CD titles I saw advertised in CRAZY BOB'S (Div of
ERM) in a mailer newspaper-type flyer. I've called their 800 number, but get
a wierd recording. Anyhow, does anyone selling CD's here have these titles
and at what prices? I want the following:
Complete Home and Office Legal Guide.......$15.00
Guiness Disc of Records (Latest)........... 19.00
USA Wars - Korea........................... 39.00
Mayo Clinic................................ 39.00
Street Atlas USA........................... 99.00
CD Caddies, 10 @$5.50...................... 55.00
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$266.00
I would expect to pay a small charge for shipping, payment will be by
MasterCard. All are for DOS Machine and should be the latest versions.
Please reply here or call (907) 474-0685 It's Alaska, so check the time
difference and please don't call me before 9:00 A.M. Alaska Time!!!
Thanx
Stu
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From: TOM BROWN Number: 3819
To: BRUCE KRUEGER Date: 09/18/93 9:35a
Subj: Re: CD for BBS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Well, I have a conversion program that will convert the files.bbs to
files.dir or whatever else you need. Send me your address and I can snail-mail
it to you or you can download it from my system (see origin below). When are
you going to make the switch from telegard? I was told that the support went
out the window! Switch to TAG! Running TAG 2.6f and LOVING IT!!!
--- GEcho 1.00
* Origin: Web of Darkness +49-6181-574359 24 hr 14.4 (2:244/6204.1)
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From: PHILIP GARRISON Number: 3820
To: BRUCE KRUEGER Date: 09/19/93 12:26p
Subj: Telegard Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Sorry to butt into your Conversation...but couldn't keep quiet seing
that you mentioned the Telegard BBS. Are you running ver2.7? I have
Five CD-Roms hooked into my system and will never let Telegard access
them...Instead i use External File Transfer Doors which are much better.
Anyway...Where do you get your support from? If your support
site is still running near you..can you netmail me the node number?
Thanks...until then..hope to receive feedback from you...See ya.
Philip Garrison..
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* Origin: The Garrison Empire BBS! +49-6183-73605 (0:0/0)
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From: GERRY BOLGER Number: 3821
To: ALL Date: 09/16/93 12:33a
Subj: CD Rom, Advice Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
To All:
New to the CD things of life,
Looking for simple advise how it works, whats involved, costs, requirements.
Any advice considered.
Thanks
gerry
... Two most common elements in the universe: Hydrogen & Stupidity.
--- FMail 0.94
* Origin: ELAM BBS -- +44 273 555984 -- Brighton, UK (2:441/58.0)
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From: TIM GAVIN-WEAR Number: 3822
To: CHRIS FLYNN Date: 09/18/93 2:11p
Subj: Re: CD ROM Catologues Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Paul Pyatt to Chris Flynn <=-
PP> * In a message originally to Tim Gavin-Wear, Chris Flynn said:
> TG> Can anyone supply me with or point me in the right direction for
> TG> CD-ROM catologues ?
>Leave me your BBS or fax number and I'll send mine.
Hi Chris,
I'm also looking for a catologue, my BBS number is below !
Cheers,
Tim.
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From: HOWARD POLLOCK Number: 3823
To: ALL Date: 09/17/93 7:45p
Subj: Norton Speedcache & Cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Greetings all,
I would like some help relating to Norton Speedcache.
I read in a magazine that the default settings for speedcache are not
the optimum for a cdrom drive (in my case a Mitsumi LU005). Has anybody
experimented with these settings ? If so, please could you let me know
what your findings are.
Thanks for your help.
Howard
Ipswich, UK
■ RM 1.2 00790 ■ No sense being pessimistic. It wouldn't work anyway.
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From: PHIL BROAD Number: 3824
To: ALL Date: 09/21/93 9:53p
Subj: Buying CD-Roms & Players Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Could any dealers out there please send a catalogue to
Phil Broad
3 Paines Close
Pinner
Middlesex
HA5 3BN
ENGLAND
as I'm am very interested in buying a CD-Rom player & Soundcard
Thanks in advance!
---
■ QMPro 1.0 65-4800 ■ Drop your carrier: we have you surrounded
--- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff167/a]
* Origin: The Port of Call, Surrey, UK, +44-(0)81-391-5779 (2:252/149)
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From: NEIL BERGMAN Number: 3825
To: MARCIAL MORENO Date: 09/24/93 10:47a
Subj: CD-ROM WHOLESALERS AND PU Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> ******************> ATTENTION CD-ROM WHOLESALERS <*****************
-> I recently opened a CD-ROM store in the Whittier, CA area and now
Marcial what is your voice phone # I have 300+ wholsale titles and one
exclusively "L.A. Strippers". I'd like to call you.
Thanks, Neil Bergman
(310) 652-2858
* RM 1.0 * Eval Day 9 * RoboMail -- Version 1.0 -- Available now!
--- GOMail v1.2 [DEMO] 10-18-93
* Origin: Compu-Net * 310-822-0038 * SoCal's Largest (1:102/523)
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From: NEIL BERGMAN Number: 3826
To: ALL Date: 09/24/93 10:47a
Subj: CD-ROMS FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CDROMS FOR SALE:
UP ALL NIGHT (SHAREWARE) $18.11
MONSTER DISC (2 DISCS) 1.3 gigs of non-duplicated files (1993) $36.23
LOOM $15.00
SUPER SHAREWARE w SUPER BBS $31.00
STORM I,II,III $22.50 (each)
WINWARE III $15.50
KODAK PHOTO CD (MPC) $15.50
WING COMMANDER AND ULTIMA IV $15.50
I have other discs for sale also. If you leave me your name
and mailing address I can send you a list.
Neil Bergman
Phone (310) 652-2858
Fax (310) 652-2608
* RM 1.0 * Eval Day 9 * RoboMail -- Version 1.0 -- Available now!
--- GOMail v1.2 [DEMO] 10-18-93
* Origin: Compu-Net * 310-822-0038 * SoCal's Largest (1:102/523)
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From: DENIS COLEMAN Number: 3827
To: DAVID ADKINS Date: 09/22/93 7:11a
Subj: CD's in Australia Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi,
DA> I did and got no response
DA> regards
DA> David
i have not got your letter yet.
Denis
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From: KEITH STEWART Number: 3828
To: ALL Date: 09/23/93 10:27p
Subj: PC or MAC or Amiga versions Refer: NONE
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I'm probably (almost SURELY) showing my ignorance here (VERY PUBLICALLY), but
. . . .
-
I've just put an Apple CD-ROM drive on the network here at Sydney
Uni's Cumberland College MacLab.
-
Are the CD-s 'brand specific' ?
-
Also, (and, yes, I KNOW that this is 'off topic' but I can transfer
Mac .GIF files and turn them into Mac graphics.
What would happen if I downloaded an 'MS-DOS' .GIF file to disk.
(Yes, I can save and swap and convert files.)
Will the 'PC.GIF' files work with a Mac GIF-converter?
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From: SOPH PETROU Number: 3829
To: DARIN CELINO Date: 09/23/93 8:40a
Subj: Mitsumi CD ROM Refer: NONE
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|SP> Does anybody know if 2 Mitsumi cd roms can be daisy
|SP> chained off a SOUND GALAXY NXPRO?
DC>Yes I do Know......
DC>No they can't.....but why do you need both hooked up to the sound
DC>board?
Hi , and Thanx for the info. The reason I wanted both on is that i already have
an nxpro and cd rom on my bbs and just just this other drive and wanted to run
it on the bbs as well .
SOPH......
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3830
To: ANDREW SEE Date: 09/22/93 9:39p
Subj: Pro Audio Studio 16Xl Refer: NONE
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Hi Andrew!
On 09-20-93 Andrew See wrote to Rowan Evans...
AS> RE> Wavetable wasn't (still isn't) a priority, however it's nice to
AS> RE> know that I can connect a Wave Blaster to my SB 16 ASP when it
AS> RE> does become so!
AS>
AS> Do yourself a favour, hear a few of your favourite games with a decent
AS> wavetable synth. Waveblaster is a dead-end product, mainly because it
AS> is all ROM and no RAM, so you (or game developers) can't add custom
AS> samples and patches. The PAS-XL will have both RAM/ROM, which is
AS> certainly superior to the WB. The problem with ROM based patches,
AS> is that you start hearing the same instruments in all your games...
I'm not tired of the sounds out of the SB 16 ASP yet!
AS> RE> As for the two wavetable cards you mentioned, the GUS SCSI is
AS> RE> *STILL* not available and I don't know whether the Roland has
AS> RE> CD-ROM support onboard.....
AS>
AS> Whats the issue here? There are plenty of good SCSI controllers
AS> avaiable. This is a popular misconception, the CD rom controller does
AS> NOT have to be on the soundcard, it is quite independent. A dedicated
AS> SCSI card will be of a higher quality than one on a Soundcard anyhow.
The issue is I don't particularly want to use two slots, one for CD-ROM
control and the other for sound! With the SB 16 ASP, I have both of those
plus an option to add wavetable synth if it becomes a priority.....
Well, I could only see a 5% difference between an NEC CDR 55 attached
to a PAS16 and the same CD-ROM attached to an Adaptec 1540B... So where's
the gain in the dedicated SCSI for the CD-ROM. I agree that if you already
have a SCSI HDD, then a SCSI CD-ROM is a good idea, but if you have IDE
HDDs as I do, and add the CR562B, then the SB 16 ASP was the way to go!
AS> I am using a GUS with a TEXEL 3024 drive, and an Adaptec SCSI card.
AS> No probs.
Never suggested there would be.... The original thread was based on the
premise of adding wavetable, and I was just saying that the two wave
table cards suggested didn't have the total package that came in the
SB 16 ASP... CD-ROM support/Sound/WaveTable option.... It may not be
the best in class at any of the above, but it works with the CR562B
and that was the main criteria for selection!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3831
To: ALAN WHITEMORE Date: 09/22/93 9:49p
Subj: panasonic 562b Refer: NONE
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Hi Alan!
On 09-19-93 Alan Whitemore wrote to Rowan Evans...
AW> AW>> Well that last line is wrong. If I unplug the cable connecting
AW> AW>> the CD-ROM to the line-in on the SB whilst an audio piece is
AW> AW>> playing, I lose all sound. How can the line-in be for recording
AW> AW>> purposes =only=?
AW>
AW> RE> <g>).. and then you don't provide sufficient info to
AW> RE> let me know *EXACTLY* what you're doing!
AW>
AW> I agree that I could have been clearer. The audio I mentioned is the
AW> audio from multimedia applications and not audio CD.
The plot thickens.... I would have expected multimedia sound to have come
off the CD-ROM, into memory and then been passed to the sound card via the
Windows MM drivers....
AW> I have a cable running from the external red & white connectors on the
AW> CD-ROM interface card to the line-in on the SB mono. This cable
AW> appears to provide the audio - from MM apps NOT audio CD's ;-), and if
AW> I unplug that cable whilst the MM app is running, the sound is abruptly
AW> cut off. This was my basic test to prove that the line-in wasn't just
AW> for recording purposes as had been suggested.
Hmmm.... Curiouser and curiouser said Alice.... <g>..... The red & white
connectors on the CD-ROM i/f card come from audio out at the back of the
CD-ROM... This is where sound comes from for an audio CD! I'm starting to
want my old SB 2.0 back, just for some testing! <g>
AW> RE> 1. The mono SB 1.0/1.5/2.0 WILL provide sound for multimedia
AW> RE> applications and, unless you want stereo sound and a CD-ROM
AW> RE> controller on the sound card, you don't have to buy anything
AW> RE> else....
AW>
AW> RE> 2. The mono SB (etc) WILL NOT allow you to hear Audio CDs though
AW> RE> the speakers connected to the SB, even if you have the CD-ROM
AW> RE> drive headphone jack connected to line-in of the SB and [MCI]
AW> RE> CD Audio loaded....
AW>
AW> RE> Is this correct from your testing?? If so, please advise so that
AW> RE> the correct (and verified) information amy be passed on to anyone
AW> RE> who asks!
AW>
AW> This looks pretty clear Rowan. I have to admit I haven't tested
AW> whether the second part of point 2 would work (I don't have a
AW> male-male connector). I think I'd be willing to bet dollars that
AW> it wouldn't work.
Yeah, I'll bet it won't work either! <g>.....
Interesting point seems to be that you have to have the cable from
your CD audio out to SB line in to hear MM sounds and that this same
setup doesn't work for audio CDs.... I suspect that the Windows MM
driver must have some type of mixer built in??
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3832
To: ALAN WHITEMORE Date: 09/22/93 9:54p
Subj: Panasonic 562b + Sb Mono Refer: NONE
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Hi Again Alan!
On 09-19-93 Alan Whitemore wrote to Rowan Evans...
AW> AW>> Just as a matter of interest, how clear is the Audio in your
AW> AW>> encyclopedia using SB 16 ASP? I'm finding the sound quite clear
AW> AW>> through a SB mono, but distortion in the upper and lower ranges
AW> AW>> is quite evident in some of the classical music selections. The
AW> AW>> animal and bird sounds seem crystal clear though.
..revisited..
Did you stop and think about how the samples were recorded? Maybe the
classical music is recorded in stereo at 44.1Khz and the birds and bees
in mono at 22.05!
AW> I'm mostly just plugging headphones into the jack on the 562b for
AW> audio CD's. It doesn't drive them as loudly as the typical audio
AW> portable CD player does though. I'm quite impressed that playing
AW> an audio CD in the background has such little impact on Window's
AW> performance.
The CD-ROM headphone out is non-amplified.... Your SB 2.0 has (I think)
2 watts... my SB 16 ASP has 4 watts of amplification... more than enough
to upset most of the cheap speakers around!
AW> The classical music I mentioned was one of the selections in the STW
AW> MPC encyclopedia. I found the distortion quite evident and just
AW> wondered how much more superior the SB 16 ASP was for MM applications.
Which one? I'll play it and see....
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3833
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 09/22/93 10:28p
Subj: Sb Pro Or Sb 16 Refer: NONE
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Hi Ashwin!
On 09-17-93 Ashwin Bihari wrote to All...
AB> Hey all I am in the process of buying a SB PRO or SB 16 to replace my
AB> SB 2.0 since I have a CD-ROM and the regular SB cannot handle the
AB> CD-ROM output, I just wanna know which of these card would be a good
AB> choice and worth my money, since I wanna use the Soundcard for the
AB> CD-ROM games I have and Audio CD's. also what about PAS 16, please
AB> tell me about these card and good and bad things about these cards.
Help us to help you........
*WHAT* CD-ROM drive do you have?
*WHAT* interface does it use?
Its stupid me rhapsodising about a PAS 16 if you have a Mitsumi CD-ROM
and want to have the sound card control the CD-ROM as well as give you
audio CD play features....
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3834
To: DEBBIE MARANTZ Date: 09/22/93 10:33p
Subj: T7g Help Refer: NONE
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Hi Debbie!
On 09-19-93 Debbie Marantz wrote to Paul Swider...
DM> The number for the Virgin Games BBS is 1-714-833-3305 and
DM> they have two current updates online T7G124 and T7G130.
DM> Also, you have me a bit curious, as I had a STEALTH VRAM in
DM> my system until the CDRom was installed and the only
DM> problem I encountered was when I installed T7G, the video
DM> throughput numbers were 1% of optimum, which was a real
DM> surprise, since the card supports vram.
Does T7G now handle S3 video cards properly? I was in the process of
buying a video card when I borrowed a copy of T7G (I since bought one!)
and the number of people complaining about the slowness of S3 cards
with T7G sent me to buy an ATI Graphiocs Ultra Pro (2Mb VRAM)...
Interesting thing..... The copy of T7G I borrowed was ver 1.04 (I think)
and the copy I bought was 1.2.... Install from 1.04 gave me 86% for the
ATI on the video test and 100% (548Kbps) for the CD-ROM. Install from
1.2 gives 66% for the ATI and 100% (300Kbps) for the CD-ROM (CR562B)....
Someone's moved the goalposts!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3835
To: STEVE WON Date: 09/22/93 10:41p
Subj: SBPro, does it have a li Refer: NONE
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Hi Steve!
On 09-19-93 Steve Won wrote to All...
SW> I have heard, (maybe just rumor) that the CD interface on the SB Pro
SW> is limited to a data transfer rate of 150 kb/s. Does anyone know if
SW> this is true or not? I don't have one yet, but I may buy a Panasonic
SW> 562B and if this is true, I may have to get a SB clone type card. If
SW> this data transfer is true, then it would essentially eliminate the
SW> effectiveness of the double spin, 300 kb/s 562B.
Its a dammned lie!
I have two friends with CR562Bs happliy running off SB Pros (both the
older and newer (OPL-3) versions).... As both purchased the CR562Bs
on my recommendation, they'd have strangled me if the SB Pro could
only transfer data at 150Kbps!
Plus I've benchmarked the SB Pro 2/CR562B combo to within 1% or so of the
speed when the CR562B is attached to the SB 16 ASP, which is the fastest
sound card/CD-ROM combo I've seen to date.....
Cheers!
o
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From: TIM WENAS Number: 3836
To: STEVE MANN Date: 09/20/93 8:37p
Subj: Cl Sbpro16/Cd-Rom Combo Refer: NONE
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SM>Tim, I have been looking into 16bit sound/ double speed CD drives for severa
SM>weeks now. After initially favouring the PAS16 + SCSI CD combination I
SM>decided, three days ago, to go for the SB kit.
Yep, me too.
SM>There is a very good review in PC Magazine (May or Jun 93 I think, definitel
SM>after April) on sound boards which rated the PAS slightly ahead of the SB.
SM>But on balance when considering the included software, the cost, the ease of
SM>installation and software compatibility, the SB comes out well in front in m
SM>opinion.
Hmm, I'll have to look for that PC Magazine issue. But I agree that the
SB multimedia kit is more user-friendly than the PAS kit, even if the
card is not as good.
SM>My question to you is where did you find the
price of $799 for this kit. I SM>have checked out all over Sydney and
have found prices ranging from $850 to SM>$1300. I would appreciate it
if you could mail me with any of the details SM>(Shop, address,
phone, prices etc.).
Well, I think you might not have got an earlier netmail so here's this.
I went to Pacific Microlabs today, I -think- available in Sydney and
they gave me a price list.
Discovery Pack $799: Sound Blaster Pro 2, CR-563 CD-ROM, Grandma+Me,
Carmen Sandiego deluxe, Animals MPC, Software Toolworks encyclopedia and
Photostyler Special Edition.
Performance Pack $999: As above but with Sound Blaster 16, microphone,
speakers and Voice Assist voice recognition s/ware.
Premium Pack $1199: As all of above and Macromedia Action!, Authorware
Star, Mathematica Tempra <image processign s/ware>, PC Animate+ and HSC
Interactive.
Pacific Microlabs isn't the cheapest shop around, if you look in
Thursday editions of the Age, the Green Guide included has excellent
sources of cheap multi-media kits. I should think it's available in a
Sydney edition.
SM>Hope this is helpful.
Hope _that_ was helpful! :)
-T-
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From: TIM WENAS Number: 3837
To: DAVID POMEROY Date: 09/20/93 8:46p
Subj: Cd-Roms Refer: NONE
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From: DAVID POMEROY Refer#: 3126
To: ALL Recvd: NO
Subj: cd-roms Conf: (79) CDROM
DP>Hi! Is anyone there interested in joining a New Zealand or possibly
DP>Australasian CD-ROM users group..... I'm very tempted to set one up, as it i
DP>badly needed for us down under users. If you think if would be a good idea,
DP>and you'd be interested in joining at a later stage, leave me a message. I'
DP>like to hear from you. Also, if you can think of things you'd like to see
DP>covered and a fair joining fee (ie: AUS $20, NZ $30 etc), I'd appreciate you
DP>views. If we can get a group underway, perhaps it would put us in a good
DP>bargaining position with CD-ROM suppliers - thus lowering the price for
Sounds great to me! Most of the messages here I see are from the U.S.
I don't have a cd-rom drive yet, but am vigourously pursuing one! At
best I'll have one next week, otherwise before the end of the year.
-T-
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From: TIM WENAS Number: 3838
To: GABRIEL KLYBER Date: 09/20/93 8:49p
Subj: Sb16&Cd-Rom Refer: NONE
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From: GABRIEL KLYBER Refer#: NONE
To: ALL Recvd: NO
Subj: Sb16&cd-rom Conf: (79) CDROM
GK>I have a SB16 and would like to hook a CD-ROM up to it. I know it only works
GK>with Mitsumi/Panasonic. I've heard of a new Mitsumi double-spin CD-ROM. Has
GK>anyone else heard or seen this? I was wondering what the price was. Any info
GK>would be appreciated. Thanks.
Hi Gabriel, I was at a computer shop today, and got a few stats on the
Panasonic soundblaster drives.
Panasonic <AT-BUS> CR-563: Access time 350ms, Transfer rate 300KB/sec.
I think the access time is actually lower, about 300ms I think.
There's also the Toshiba T340IB <SCSI-II> access 200ms, Transfer 376
KB/sec. Costs a lot more, ($999 internal) and requires own controller.
HIH -T-
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From: TIM WENAS Number: 3839
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/20/93 8:59p
Subj: Where To Buy Sb16/Mm Upg Refer: NONE
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From: ROWAN EVANS Refer#: NONE
To: STEVE MANN Recvd: NO
Subj: Where to buy SB16/MM upg Conf: (79) CDROM
RE> If all else fails, talk to Creative Pacific (previously ComputaMart)
RE> in Artarmon. The're the Aussie distributor for this stuff....
RE> SB CD16 Discovery Kit $A 799.00
RE> SB CD16 Performance Kit $A 999.00
RE> SB CD16 Premium Kit $A1199.00
RE> The only difference is the number of CD-ROMs in the kits!
Umm... in this list I have here, the Discovery kit only has a Sound
Blaster Pro 2, while the Perfomance and Premium have Sound Blaster 16s.
So you mean the Discovery has a Sound Blaster 16? Wow... and I was gonna
buy a Discovery pack with a SBPro 2!...
Could you get back to me on that, please? :)
TIA -T-
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From: TIM WENAS Number: 3840
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/22/93 2:18p
Subj: Buying A Cd-Rom Pack Refer: NONE
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RE> I agree with your comments on the Fusion CD16 kits.... I went out and
RE> got an SB 16 ASP with the Panasonic CR562B and sold my Fusion kit....
RE> *BUT* I loved the PAS16 for its sound (in 16-bit mode, I prefer it to
RE> the SB 16 ASP, but the PAS16 doesn't support a Panasonic AT bus CD-ROM
RE> drive 8^(....) I also loved the Labtec CS-550s.... Does anyone know
RE> where to source a set of Labtec CS-550s in Australia???
I may be getting a CD-ROM drive _very_ soon, hopefully a SB Premium pack
or Discovery. Anyway, I believe I saw a pair of Labtec speakers at
Pacific Microlabs Doncaster, Vic. <I'm not sure if they're the ones you
want>. Ask Pacific Microlab to see if they have any. Personally, I
prefer my own choice of Uniway speakers, though they cost more.
HIHAL -T-
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From: TIM WENAS Number: 3841
To: STEVE MANN Date: 09/22/93 9:58p
Subj: Cd Kits Prices <Aust> Refer: NONE
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Hi Steve.
Today I went looking for CD kits.... Both the shops I went to
didn't have the kit I was interested in <SB CD16 Performance>. However,
I got the prices on a number of other kits, taken from Green Guide last
week.
**-Fusion CD 16 multimedia kit + 6 CDs: $720 (however, I don't know the
specs on the drive except that it's photo-CD ready.)
-Fusion CD 16 multimedia kit + 5 CDs: $790 <?> -Different store.
-Soundblaster Performance <SB16> + 5 CDs: $899
-Multispin Stereo Pack: Panasonic multispin, Laserwave 16 +So Much
Shareware: $750
-Multi-spin pack: Lasermate multi-spin/session, Laserwave Supra 16, 5
CDs: $799
** -Soundblaster 16+doublespeed CD-ROM+5 CDs : $845 (I think it's the
performance pack, if so it's a good price, retails normally about $999)
-Panasonic multi-spin/session, 16bit sound card (but which one), 15<!>
CDs: $1,340 (Expensive, but w/ many CDs.Still, probably won't get this.)
-Panasonic multi-spin, NX Pro + 4 CDs: $895
With so much to choose from, it can be confusing. You might have already
bought a CD drive by now. I've decided to go for a SB 16, I reckon <and
read> that the next wave of sound cards will be 16 bit. The PAS 16 is
nice too, but ppl have told me it's hard to set up and dodgy
compatibility. Double-speed/XA compatible is essential too, so the
Panasonic CR-563 I see is a good drive. The prices above I've marked
with a ** I think are good ones to look for.
If anyone else is reading this, could they reply with comments on their
CD-drive, ie. what are their opinions, good+bad points and what
model/make it is. Also, if you've bought a multimedia pack, respond with
comments too? Thanks to all the people who've already responded! :):)
Lotsa help in deciding what to go for.
Well Steve, hope this info helps (and helps anyone else reading).
-T- PS: Have to get tomorrow's Age! :)
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From: TIM WENAS Number: 3842
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/23/93 1:58p
Subj: Q'S On These New Panason Refer: NONE
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From: ROWAN EVANS Refer#: NONE
To: POE LIM Recvd: NO
Subj: Q'S On These New Panason Conf: (79) CDROM
RE> Homour Poe, humour... I was having a bit of trouble sourcing a second
RE> one at a similar price to the first....
Is the CR562B better or worse than the CR563? I believe the 563 is
included with the Creative Labs multimedia kits? At some places they put
a 562(b) in place of a 563, and sell it for about $120 cheaper, so I
imagine the 563 is better???
RE> Believe CR503 as the 300Kbps, 320ms avg acess, motorised tray loading
RE> SCSI-2 Panasonic CD-ROM drive.... I have a photocopy of the spex here
RE> and there are only minor differences between the two....
Hmm.. and so the 563 is 300KB/s, 350ms access but _not_ SCSI at all? So
it seems that a 503 (never heard of that version b4) is bettre than a
562B and a 563?
Geez, all these numbers are *really* confusing to me! (and I don't even
have a CD-ROM drive yet!):~>
-T-
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From: TIM WENAS Number: 3843
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/22/93 10:00p
Subj: Cl Sbpro16/Cd-Rom Combo Refer: NONE
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From: ROWAN EVANS Refer#: 3622
To: TIM WENAS Recvd: NO
Subj: Cl Sbpro16/Cd-Rom Combo Conf: (79) CDROM
RE>Hi Tim!
Hi Rowan!
RE> Bought a Creative Labs Business kit with the SB 16 ASP and CR563 drive in
RE> May '93 and have been soliloquising about them ever since.... *LOVE IT*
RE> Bought a PAS-16 and NEC CDR-55 at the same time (the CDR-55 is also a
RE> double speed/Photo CD drive) and must state that it cost as much for the
RE> PAS16/CDR-55 bare (no CDs) as it did for the entire CL kit and, as its
RE> SCSI, its not as fast.... The PAS16/CDR-55 is still a good combo (it
RE> doesn't experience the "voice breakups" that occur to an SB in T7G), but
RE> as you say, it costs more for less.....
Hmm.... the PAS16 kit is not fast, and costs more for less? I was
looking through a paper, and found PAS16, Philips CD-ROM (not
NEC CDR) photo-cd ready (but I don't know about double-speed), Labtec
speakers and 5 CDs including Comptons MPC encyclopedia for $790, which
seems quite good! I'm seriously considering this kit after finding out
more about the drive. (has to be double-speed!:) Unfortunately, at the
price I don't think it is.) Do you know if Philips CD-ROM drives are
good? The Super Nintendo Super CD is going to be a Philips, after their
break-up with Sony.
Replies welcome from *everybody*! -T-
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From: TIM WENAS Number: 3844
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/22/93 9:03p
Subj: What Is "Mpc-Compatible Refer: NONE
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From: ROWAN EVANS Refer#: NONE
To: TIM WENAS Recvd: NO
Subj: What Is "Mpc-compatible Conf: (79) CDROM
RE> Its a little more specific than that!
RE> 1. CPU *MUST* be at least a 386SX/16!
RE> 2. CD-ROM drive *MUST* be capable of sustained 150Kbps transfer rate at
RE> <40% CPU utilisation & have an average seek of <1 second (1000ms).
RE> TW> BTW, anyone got any advice or comments on the Panasonic /Creative
RE> TW> Labs CD-ROM drives?
RE> Ny advice is *BUY ONE*..... I think its the best thing since the 486DX2/66!
Well, no probs with the CPU.... I got *no idea* about whether the CD-ROM
drive will do all that though. I guess it should. I'll be getting a
CD-rom thing Real Soon Now...
-T-
PS: Just wait for the 486DX3/99! And what about the P5DX2/200?
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From: TOM BULUM Number: 3845
To: STEPHEN RANSON Date: 09/22/93 9:54a
Subj: Aus. 562B Distributor? Refer: NONE
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-=> Stephen Ranson was heard mumbling to Tom Bulum about Aus. 562B
Distributor?<=-
SR> In a message to Poe Lim on 09-15-93, TOM BULUM said>>
TB> ^^^^^
TB>Hiya Poe,
TB> whereabouts can I get this for this price? Eagerly awaiting
SR> reply.
TB>
SR> Tom, the Australian CD-ROM Club here in Canberra has the CR562B, and
SR> just for you we will sell it at $450. Call us on 2915258 anytime.
SR> Stephen Ranson
SR> Australian CD-ROM Club
SR> Voice (008)811190, Fax (06)2914591
Sorry Stephen,
already have it ordered from someone else. Thanx for the reply.
Tom.
... Sometimes I wake up grouchy. Most times, I let her sleep.
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* Origin: Dynamite BBS - ACT Australia - Line 3 - (06) 2429750 (3:620/250.0)
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From: TOM BULUM Number: 3846
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/22/93 9:51a
Subj: Re: Panasonic CD drive Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Rowan Evans was heard mumbling to Tom Bulum about Re: Panasonic CD drive<=-
RE> Hi Tom!
RE>
RE> On 09-16-93 Tom Bulum wrote to Rowan Evans...
TB> -=> Rowan Evans was heard mumbling to Gaetano Calia about
TB> -=> Re: Panasonic CD drive<=-
TB>
TB> RE> Depends on what you're looking at... The 4.0 SBCD.SYS was plenty
TB> RE> fast, but would "jerk" in T7G when moving & playing sound...
TB> RE> 4.10 beta & 4.11 appear to have fixed the problem.....
TB>
TB> I've got SBCD.SYS V4.11 but I use another file,
TB> SBPCD_V2.SYS which is version 2.00 . Any ideas which one is better?
RE>
RE> Haven't seen the SBPCD_V2.SYS driver.... I'll have to logon to the
RE> Creative Pacific BBS and see if its there.... What does it say about
RE> the CD-ROM drives it supports? The older SBPCD.SYS did not work with
RE> the CR-562B/CR563 drives (so Steve Harrington told me!).....
Hi Rowan,
it says that is supports SCD-521C/SCD-531C. From this I assume it doesn't
support the CR-562B/CR563 drives. It's 11841 bytes uncompressed.
Tom.
... Delete F.A.T. (Y/Y)
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From: PETER HARRIS Number: 3847
To: ALAN WHITEMORE Date: 09/24/93 10:45p
Subj: Re: Government Laws on CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi
This is Peter Harris from the Attorney-General's Dept.
The current Attorney's policy is to make law accessible to the public
and we are investigating ways of doing this including cheap
CDROMs. The Qld Govt is even distributing their laws on diskette.
Please feel free to ring me at work 06 2505768 if you want more info. As well
as being a Computer Scientist I am also a solicitor. I am also the founder of
the PC Users group.
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From: ERIC CASSIMATIS Number: 3848
To: GIL MACHIN Date: 09/23/93 7:34p
Subj: Mitsumi CD ROM Drive; So Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GM> Eric:
GM> The LU 005S has a 16 bit interface card. I think the Tandy drive is an
GM> older drive, same as LU 002? the physical description
GM> of the Tandy and the
GM> LU 005S are the same case types. I thinl that OS/2
GM> dravers are aviable but
GM> are third party commerical ($). I do not know of a
GM> source,keep reading the
GM> echo somebody will have a source. Gil
Well, frankly I don't really care if I have to pay mnoney .... getting two SCSI
CDRoms is a lot more money! In reference to the card, you recommend the
"LU002S" driver, not the "xxx5S" version? Well, thank you very much for that
piece of information - it will help!
Eric
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From: TARQUINN WATSON Number: 3849
To: DEAN MACKIN Date: 09/24/93 10:59a
Subj: Pioneer 6 pack Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DM> I run 8 nodes under it and get MASSIVE LOCKUPS for
DM> about 2 seconds every time a disk change takes
DM> place and thats's with a 604x. I am not sure how
DM> much slower a 600 would be. There are no lockups
DM> when the drm is READING the files, only when it
DM> CHANGES CD's. But I think this is more of a DOS
DM> Can anybody tell me, would their be lockups on a
DM> SLAVE computer (running DV) on a network when the
DM> SERVER accesses a drm connect to itself? I have not
I run multiaple 6 disks changers in a TBBS enviroment and have not suffered any
of the problems you describe :). Even with 5 people downloading. I do have a
seperate sever for the DRMs, and it copies the file to a staging directry on a
ultra fast scsi hard drive. I have heard that if I connected the drms directly
to the BBS machines it would have been very slow and problems would occur. So
all I suggest is that you experiment with a dedicated computer cd_sever.
rgs, Tarquinn.
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From: DOMINIQUE PERRON Number: 3850
To: ROB PERELMAN Date: 09/25/93 6:41a
Subj: FREE CATALOG Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Rob Perelman wrote in a message to All:
RP> My uncle is selling 100-200 CD titles and he is offering a
RP> free catalog to anyone who has a CD Rom drive. That's
Dominique Perron
PB # 76012
Aylmer, Quebec, Canada
J9H 6W6
Thanks!
Cheers
Dom
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From: SCOTT WHARY Number: 3851
To: WALTER CHISENSKI Date: 09/25/93 11:02a
Subj: CD-ROM CADDYS/PROGRAMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I got 10 cd caddys fro Better Business Sysyems, Van nuys, CA 91409...
Phone (818--376-1558..
10 caddys were $39.90 + 8.80 freight...that's $3.99 each..
I got the number from the coumputer shopper, ther its an 800 no.
Dont' pay to much..
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From: BUTCH SANDERSON Number: 3852
To: ROB PERELMAN Date: 09/25/93 12:45p
Subj: Free Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RP>My uncle is selling 100-200 CD titles and he is offering a free catalog
RP>to anyone who has a CD Rom drive. That's right...FREE!! All you have
RP>to do is send me your name and address or your fax number and he will
RP>mail you a free catalog by mail or fax - YOUR CHOICE!!! Just respond
RP>privately in this conference or net mail me at 1:202/344.1 with your
RP>information (CD Rom drive type not needed) and we will get it out to you
RP>A.S.A.P.! There is no obligation, so you have no reason not to
RP>respond...I mean hey, it's FREE!!!
RP>cc: JEFF COLLINGWOOD
RP> * QMPro 1.50 4 * <Ctrl><Alt><Del> to read the next message
RP>--- WM v3.01/92-0215
RP> * Origin: High Country East, Ramona, CA (619)-789-4391 (1:202/1308.0)
Send one to Butch
878 Walker ST.
New Orleans, La 70124
Thanks
* SLMR 2.1 * You CD-ROM ?.....Nope, but I CD monitor!....(New Orleans)
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From: BUTCH SANDERSON Number: 3853
To: DAVID HO Date: 09/25/93 12:51p
Subj: Pas16-Scsi Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DH>What type of SCSI interface do Pro Audio Spectrum 16 have ? SCSI-I or SCSI-I
DH>Assume PAS16 have SCSI-II interface, Can I connect a SCSI-I CD-ROM drive
DH>to it ? Any reply is appreciated.
DH> David
DH>--- TMail v1.31.4
DH> * Origin: Dial-A-File BBS - (604) 736-FILE (1:153/776)
Hi David,
I have a PAS 16 and yes it does support CD-ROMS. I am using a Mitsumi
drive and it works great. Although, I did have to purchase a special
cable to hook up the Mitsumi. You can get adapter cables from PAS..just
call the 1-800 sales line they have.
* SLMR 2.1 * You CD-ROM ?.....Nope, but I CD monitor!....(New Orleans)
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From: ..GRIN -:)ππBORIS OSADCIWππ... Number: 3854
To: SILVER XPRESS....... N Date: 09/25/93 5:01a
Subj: Ff-line Mail system <tm>! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Silver Xpress Mail System (1:157/46)
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From: P P P P P Number: 3855
To: Date: 09/23/93 7:54p
Subj: Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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From: Number: 3856
To: Date: 09/23/93 7:54p
Subj: Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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From: MARLIN ROWLEY Number: 3857
To: PETER LASNE Date: 09/24/93 8:24p
Subj: AMIGA CD ROM.. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I was just wanting to know if there is an Amiga CD ROM, and will software
publishers use it to produce software equivelant to the IBM market. And why is
everyone turning to CD-ROM (besides the wonderful benefits of more memory)?
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From: MARLIN ROWLEY Number: 3858
To: ALL Date: 09/24/93 8:46p
Subj: Double-spin needs for a game? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Can anyone out there tell me what are the advantages of a double spin drive in
regards to a single spin drive when you are talking about running full-motion
video that is compressed and plays back at whatever frame rate? It seems to me
that it wouldn't make a difference since the compression technique allows the
CD-ROM (single spin) to playback frames at a reasonable speed using a data
transfer rate of 150k bytes/sec. With a 300k byte/sec drive wouldn't it still
run frame rates at the same speed? What is the difference between a SEGA CD
and the computer CD's?
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From: JOHN LUONG Number: 3859
To: ALL Date: 09/24/93 9:20p
Subj: Chinon CDS-431X Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello All,
Was wondering if anybody knew what the stats are for a Chinon CDS-431X. I am
thinking of buying one, but would like to know how fast (access time, and
kilobyte/second transfer rate).
Thanks
John
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From: DAVID FATTAHIAN Number: 3860
To: ROB PERELMAN Date: 09/24/93 8:55p
Subj: FREE CATALOG Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message dated 09-23-93 ROB PERELMAN wrote to ALL:
RP> My uncle is selling 100-200 CD titles and he is offering a free
RP> catalog to anyone who has a CD Rom drive. That's right...FREE!!
Count me in...
David Fattahian
6329 N. London, Apt A
Kansas City, MO 66151
Thanks
-> Alice4Mac 2.2b2 E QWK Eval:24Sep93
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From: DAVID FATTAHIAN Number: 3861
To: ROB PERELMAN Date: 09/24/93 9:00p
Subj: FREE CATALOG Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message dated 09-23-93 ROB PERELMAN wrote to ALL:
RP> My uncle is selling 100-200 CD titles and he is offering a free
RP> catalog to anyone who has a CD Rom drive. That's right...FREE!!
Count me in...
David Fattahian
6329 N. London, Apt #A
Kansas City, MO 64151
Thanks...
-> Alice4Mac 2.2b2 E QWK Eval:24Sep93
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN Number: 3862
To: CHRIS WISE Date: 09/24/93 7:20a
Subj: CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> >>MS:> ProPhone 1993 7-disc set 50 37
-> >>MS:> American Business Phonebook 25 19
-> ----------------------------------------
->
-> How do I order these two? You take plastic
Hi Chris!
Yes, we take VISA or Mastercard! We've sold out those two at that
price, but we can order more in at the regular price if you're
interested. Drop us a line at 306-789-4654.
Thanks
.\\ichellea
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From: DAVID HO Number: 3863
To: ALL Date: 09/24/93 11:31p
Subj: PAS16-SCSI Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
What type of SCSI interface do Pro Audio Spectrum 16 have ? SCSI-I or SCSI-II?
Assume PAS16 have SCSI-II interface, Can I connect a SCSI-I CD-ROM drive
to it ? Any reply is appreciated.
David
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From: STEPHEN GREEN Number: 3864
To: TOMCAT Date: 09/20/93 2:09p
Subj: ADD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TOMCAT control message = ADD
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* Origin: Baudeville: 416-283-0114 Toronto 2300+ msg areas (1:250/304)
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3865
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/25/93 12:35a
Subj: Re: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BO=>>**************** C D - R O M D R I V E P R I C E S ****************
BO=>>Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $739.00 Pioneer DMR604X Bare - $1169. -SCSI
>> What does bare mean?
You get the drive, RCA jacks, power cord, caddy, drivers and manual.
There is no SCSI controller nor shielded cable in the above package.
If you's like further information, please call us at 216-225-3263
anytime 7 days a week and we'll be happy to assist you.
Boris Osadciw
... Every Silver lining has a clone around it.
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3866
To: GARY MCGEE Date: 09/25/93 12:35a
Subj: Re: UltraStor 14F Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Hello SCSI/CD ROM users
>> I am looking for the device drives to use a Toshiba 3401B
>> CD-ROM drive with a UltraStor 14F SCSI host adapter.
We have the drivers, please feel free to give us a call at 216-225-3263
anytime 7 days a week and we'll be happy to assist you further.
>> BTW:
>> I am looking for the address of the UltraStor Corporation.
>> Perhaps there phone number, BBS phone number, FAX
>> Number.......
Ultra Store # 510-623-8955
Compuserve UltraStor ID is 71005,1655
BBS # 510-623-9091
Hope this helps...
Boris Osadciw
... Happy as a Pig in Mud!
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From: RAY DYER Number: 3867
To: ALL Date: 09/21/93 10:10p
Subj: CD Rom scratches Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Is there a way to repair small tiny scratches on a CD that is caused by
even a lint-free, soft cloth that was used to remove dust from even before
first use?
Reason is that the CD ROM works just fine until certain areas of the disk are
hit. By very close inspection and by moving the disk a certain way, some
scratches can be seen by the light bouncing off the scratch, yet, by looking
straight on to the front, it can't be seen. They are not deep and a fingernail
test can't feel ant resistance (even a fingernail test left behind the same
scratch pattern the test was supposed to detect!)
The problem is that a borrowed CD ROM works fine and has no scratch but the
specs of dust. Reads fine.
I have a Mitsumi drive (005s) and other CD Roms that used to work now suddenly
don't. The scratched are seen to travel from the centre to the edge and
therefore should not pose a problem.
Any other problem of this sort had by others?
The system configuration remained the same. The Lens was dusted and still can't
read the disk but can read the other. The BUSY light flashes during the
read operation and once, DOS reported "Drive not ready error... Abort Retry.."
The only variable seen are the micro scratches only seen by light reflecting
off of them at a certain angle.
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From: SCOTT GIBSON Number: 3868
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/24/93 4:53p
Subj: Re: Special Cd-rom Prices Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NB> These are just a few examples of our low prices...We have
NB> over 300 titles in stock.
Please send me a copy of your CD catalogue. Thanks!
Scott Gibson
306 Burnwick Rd.
Richmond, VA 23227-1633
... Stop organized crime -- Arrest an IRS agent.
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From: CARL GRAHAM Number: 3869
To: ALL Date: 09/24/93 3:26p
Subj: Prophone 7 disc 93 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have a 7 disc 93 edition of prophone for sale...
This is a National telephone Directory....Whole U.S. phone Directory on CD.
List for 189.00
Will sell this 7 disc set for 85.00 will include the shipping...
Would consider trades....on database type CD's....
Call Carl 407-291-4687 in Orlando Fl.
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From: GENE EHRICH Number: 3870
To: RICH RUBIN Date: 09/24/93 7:35p
Subj: Encarta... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RR> I have for sale: ENCARTA by Microsoft. It is not new. I will sell
RR>it for the first $105 offer I get. The price includes shipping in the
RR>US. Get back to me here and leave a message. I only have one so
$35 including shipping.
I can't imagine anybody will pay $105 for a used CD that you can buy
new for just a few dollars more.
===
* QMPro 1.50 41-4216 * Pessimists are optimists who know better.
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From: LOYD CRAFT Number: 3871
To: ALL Date: 09/21/93 4:50p
Subj: Custom CDROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
D i g i t a l E n t e r p r i s e s c u s t o m
C D R O M s e r v i c e
We can transfer your programs and data from Tape, Floppy or Hard Disk
to Industry Standard CDROM, which is accessible by any ISO9660 compliant
CDROM reader.
Price schedule:
---------------
Quantity Price each
-------- ----------
1 $144.00, and $55 per each additional.
*5-9 $65.00
*10+ $50.00
* - Quantity 5 and over flat-rate pricing applies to multiple copies
of the SAME disk.
Shipping:
---------
All orders are sent via UPS ground unless customer specifies a different
method. Add $5 for UPS Blue label service, and $15 for UPS red label
service.
Getting your data to us:
------------------------
We currently support QIC-40 and QIC-80 tapes through the use of a
Colorado DJ-20 tape drive. We also support streaming tape drives
that use DC600/6XXXX tape. Floppy disks are accepted, but at a premium
of $8/hr of restore time. We Also have in the past, accepted a hard
disk as the method of transferral.
Naming conventions:
-------------------
One limiting factor of CDROM is the limit that the ISO 9660 standard
places on filenames. Filenames MUST NOT contain characters other than
A-Z, 0-9 or the "_" underscore character.
We will at your request rename non-compliant files, and files.bbs listings
at no additional cost.
Terms:
------
Prepay for service via certified funds. Personal checks must clear our
bank before production begins. Please make your check or money order
payable to "Digital Enterprises". The following signed statement must
accompany all orders:
--- Cut ---
I certify that the material I am presenting to Digital Enterprises
for transferral to CDROM violates no copyright laws. The service
that Digital Enterprises provides is a bulk copying operation, and as
such they have no knowledge of the contents thereof. I assume
sole responsibility for the contents of said CDROM(S).
Signed:___________________________
Date:______________
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For more information:
---------------------
Contact us by voice, or log onto our BBS, and download the file CDINFO.ZIP.
For those with access to a Fidonet compatible mailer, file request the
magic filename "CDINFO".
Digital Enterprises
125 S. Saginaw
St. Charles, MI 48655
Voice: 517-865-6800 - BBS: 517-865-6066 - Fidonet: 1:239/900.0
(C) Copyright 1993, Digital Enterprises
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From: LEN EVANS Number: 3872
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/24/93 5:05p
Subj: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AS>If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave your
>mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
AS>Thank you
>Adrian Salas
Would greatly appreciate your catalog(s) of available CD-ROMS!
Len Evans
RR # 3
Jasper ON Can
K0G 1G0
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3873
To: ALL Date: 09/24/93 1:06p
Subj: HOT NEW PRICES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> H O T N E W P R I C E 'S <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
From Consumer's Club International
On this date 09-24-1993, Pioneer Electronics has just lowered their
price's to us on the following Six Disk Changers. Here is your
opportunity to purchase one of the finest cdrom changers on the market.
Pioneer DMR 600 - 600ms / 150kps - bare drive - PRICE $ 739.00
Pioneer DMR 604X -350ms / 600kps - bare drive - PRICE $1169.00
Visa - MasterCard Accepted - No Surcharge
ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... The Far East pirate's choice!
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From: CLAUDIO ROGERIO Number: 3874
To: ALL Date: 09/23/93 8:15p
Subj: CD-ROM 300kb/s & SB16ASP Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Queria saber se alguém sabe de um CD-ROM que possa fazer 300Kb/s
e seja XA compatible e tenha interface AT-BUS, para ligar na SB16??
[]'s CLáudio Rogério
... A clean desk is a sign of a cluttered desk drawer.
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From: NANCY DAVIN Number: 3875
To: ALL Date: 09/24/93 6:51p
Subj: World Book Encyclopedia Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Can anyone give me a price quote on a CD-ROM w/World Book Encyclopedia on it?
I'm not interested in any other encyclopedias.
Thanks
njd
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From: NANCY DAVIN Number: 3876
To: ALL Date: 09/24/93 7:01p
Subj: World Book Encyclopedia Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Can someone give me a price quote on a CD-ROM with World Book Encyclopedia on
it? I'm only interested in World Book, no others.
Thanks.
Nancy
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From: GUY OMER Number: 3877
To: DON SHORTRIDGE Date: 09/23/93 5:02a
Subj: BBS LISTING Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Don,
Nice to have you online. Please feel free to add your BBS to the list of
<O>ther BBS's <smile>. Thanks for the kind offer of PR.
* SPITFIRE v3.3
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From: GUY OMER Number: 3878
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 09/23/93 5:06a
Subj: Cd-rom For Spitfire Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Jim,
Thanks for the info re: So Much Shareware. I agree! That cd is -very- easy
to install under SpitFire <smile>. Am looking forward to getting your CD-Rom
catalog.
* SPITFIRE v3.3
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* Origin: 8/N/1 * Guy Omer * Gainesville, FL (904-377-1200) (1:3601/120)
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3879
To: ED YEE Date: 09/21/93 6:01p
Subj: WRITABLE CD-ROM'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>I SPECULATED as to it's support. It would be unreasonable for a medium
similar
>to CD's not to be able to read CD-ROM's.
WORM is a MUCH older technology than CD-ROM (or even Audio CD) technology.
ALso, the similarities are much more APPARENT than actual.
>It's like a high density drive not supporting double density.
Not at all. It's like expecting a CD-ROM drive to read a 5.25" Floppy disk -
the form factor of those two are ALSO the same as 5.25" WORM, after all....
>There should be backward compatibility with older technology.
Then you expect CD-ROM drives to read WORM disks, right?
* SLMR 2.1a * I'm Pink, therefore I'm Floyd....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3880
To: ROGER SMITH Date: 09/21/93 6:06p
Subj: PANASONIC CR562B Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> RP> Point #1 - If you take reasonable care of your equipment you are
> RP> UNLIKELY to damage a CD disk.
>Yes, but just damage one expensive CD and you may wish you had had it in a
>caddy.
If you damage a disc getting it into a caddyless drive, you are MORE likely to
damage it while inserting it into a caddy - those caddies are NOT designed for
easy disc access.
>Caddies are only about $5 each which is not much to protect discs that can
cost
>a lot more than $40.
Most CD-ROMs on the market sell for under $40 - and the additional protection
claimed for a caddy drive is problematic at best.
>Or if you simply prefer the safety and CONVENIENCE that a caddy drive offers.
I find a carry drive to be much LESS convenient than a caddyless drive.
>I really think that it makes no sense to purchase a caddy-less CDROM drive
>unless you don't really think you're going to use the CDROM drive very often
Or if you plan to use a LOT of different discs, or if you don't SWAP discs
often (like in a BBS), or if you have even average hand-eye coordination,
or....
If you like caddies, by all means use them - just don't expect all of us to
believe the "caddies are better" hyperbole or to appreciate the additional
costs of a caddy drive.
* SLMR 2.1a * Two riders were approaching, and the Wind begin to howl.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3881
To: TODD OSTRER Date: 09/21/93 6:08p
Subj: CD'S FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Babes........................ 29 Deep Throat...................... Digital
>Dancing.................... 49 Digital Dreams................... Dirty
>Talk......................... 45 Ecstasy Hot Pics................. Erotic
>Encounters.................. 29 Erotic Encounters 2.............. FAO (3 disk
Please fix your format - assuming you haven't already excessively annoyed Bob
with your too-long ads....
* SLMR 2.1a * Cthulu? I goose it!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3882
To: TAPANI TUOMINEN Date: 09/21/93 6:27p
Subj: CADDY-O-RAMA Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Philips should have implemented CD:s with some sort of protective covering
Could be, but that also is too late to change, 'till the "next generation"
stuff gets out of the lab....
* SLMR 2.1a * Classic Literature: a book people praise and never read
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3883
To: STEWART ROTHMAN Date: 09/21/93 7:35p
Subj: XXX CD'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>I cannot understand why anyone would tie up an expensive
>computer viewing low quality cheescake or porn pix, when they can get VHS
tapes
>or magazines much cheaper.
There is typically more than a THOUSAND pictures on the "average adult" CD-ROM
for $40 or less, which is more than the 20 or less magazines you can buy with
the same $40 will give you.
Also, the picture quality is often directly comparable to magazine
pictures....
* SLMR 2.1a * Love thy neighbor, first make sure hasband is not home.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3884
To: ERIC SCHONNING Date: 09/22/93 2:01p
Subj: CD-ROM MITSUMI Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>there is a disc out called The Source Code I believe but have yet to get it.
Source Code CD-ROM by Walnut Creek.
I carry it at $20, shipping included IF prepaid.
I've not had a chance to check it out myself yet, but have seen some good
reviews (and NO bad reviews) on it.
(317) 726-1980 voice [Tu Th 11-8 We Fr 11-6 EST]
* SLMR 2.1a * Where's the .GIF?????
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3885
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/22/93 3:54p
Subj: PANASONIC CDROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>)))))))))))))))))) P A N A S O N I C 5 6 2 ((((((((((((((((((((
> FREE C.C.I T-Shirt With Order
Please to define "C.C.I."?
* SLMR 2.1a * Before, I was the student. Now I am the Master.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3886
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 09/22/93 3:56p
Subj: CONTESTS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>I once saw (and have since forgotten - dammit) a file description that claimed
>100's of "smiley face" characters. You don't happen to know about it, do you?
I may have a copy of the great "smiley" description file around here somewhere
- if not, ask in the DR_DEBUG echo, a few of the folks there should have a
copy.
* SLMR 2.1a * My heart's in your world tonight.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3887
To: DAVID WILLS Date: 09/23/93 1:53p
Subj: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>>BF>Have you bothered asking Bob WHY he has suddenly outlawed "Adult" CD-ROMs
>>BF>from this echo?
>>No.. but I am curious.. WHY?!?
> Hmph, it's pretty obvious isn't it? Religious activists and moral do-gooders
>have once again used their collective might to knuckle under another "public
>forum".
Nope. Has a LOT more to do with an Oklahoma DA that's currently up for re-
election, and a TOTALLY out-of-line Police Department more interested in
publicity than enforcing the LAW.
8-<
> Gee, is this 100% flame bait or what?
Nah, only about 98% or so....
8-?
* SLMR 2.1a * Bats do it upside down.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3888
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/23/93 3:08p
Subj: CADDY-O-RAMA Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> BF> Like caddyless. There is NO inherent superiority to a
> BF> caddie-based drive, and a
> BF> LOT of inherent limitations and excess costs involved in one.
> That is crap, and we have pointed it out. Caddies prevent dust
A preperly sealed DRIVE prevents more dust than the loosely sealed Caddies can.
>scratches
It is easier to scratch a CD getting it INTO or OUT OF a caddy then it is to
scratch it while putting it in a caddyless drive tray.
>and dropped CD's.
Overstated advantage IF any - I for one have NEVER dropped a CD, in well over
10 years of Audio usage plus 1.5 years of ROM usage. If caddies are SO
superior, why does NO single-disc Audio player use them?
>There is no particular advantage FOR THE DRIVE
>MECHANISM, but for the technology as a whole, there damn sure is.
Not when you actually EXAMINE the so-called advantages, and then factor in the
increased COST due to caddys.
* SLMR 2.1a * Read my lips - No GNU Taxes!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3889
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/23/93 3:12p
Subj: CADDY-O-RAMA Refer: NONE
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> BF> They are also a lot harder to read unless you want to
> BF> waste a LOT of horizontal space to store them in
> Neither do I, but jewel cases clutter just as badly as caddies
Jewel cases don't "clutter" at ALL around here - that's what disc HOLDERS are
for (like the Allsop 25-disc holders I happen to use).
> Neither have I, although I have had some very close calls, until I got
>caddies.
I've had exactly ONE close call - and I was TRYING to break that disc!
> BF> The "damaged disc" argument in 98% of the cases is BOGUS.
> That 2% can easily cost several times the total amount of all the
>caddies one would ever buy.
That 2% should not be using CD's in the first place, as they are EXACTLY the
folks that are going to be likely to damage their ROMs trying to get them in
the caddy in the first place.
> BF> >The time savings
> BF> Is non-existant.
> Is QUITE significant. It takes me less than three seconds to load a
>magazine, while it takes at LEAST ten seconds to load and unload jewel cases.
I have NEVER taken 10 seconds to load/unload from a jewel case - more like 1-2
seconds.
>It took several MINUTES, sometimes, for me to find the right damned jewel case
>when I had to replace a CD.
I'm disorganized, but not THAT disorganized. The case for the disc in use gets
put ON or BY the machine/drive that the disc is in....
* SLMR 2.1a * Marriages, thunder, and lightning are ALL made in Heaven
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3890
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 09/23/93 4:11p
Subj: CADDY-O-RAMA Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>PLEASE join me in putting the "caddy wars" to rest!
I suppose my copy of this is incomming?
8-O
* SLMR 2.1a * In a fight between you and the world, back the world.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3891
To: CHRIS WOOD Date: 09/23/93 4:12p
Subj: SHAREWARE EXPLORER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>would have is the fact it's files.bbs descriptions are too long making it a
>hasstle for Maximus BBS SyOps as myself. Just a little extra time with
macros
>in Qedit.
Or Column mode in WordStar non-doc mode....
* SLMR 2.1a * Work harder! Millions on Welfare depend on YOU!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3892
To: JEFF COLLINGWOOD Date: 09/23/93 4:14p
Subj: NIGHT OWL 9 SPECIALS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> To: MIKE SHANNON
>I didn't introduce myself but I met you at ONEBBSCON
Mike was at the One Con and I missed him?
RATS!
8-)
Oh well, I did get to meet Lee and Tony and Mark A. and a few others....
* SLMR 2.1a * I don't care about apathy....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3893
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/23/93 5:22p
Subj: CD-ROM INTERFACES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Those are ISA boards, not EISA. I believe that a 1542C can be had for
>$150 or a bit less.
Not anywhere I've seen - even the BARE ones are running $200+
> BF> Mabey on an EISA bus, but apparently NOT under an ISA bus - and given
> BF> that DOS has NO support for busmastering, I doubt that you are REALLY
> BF> getting any benefit out of it under EISA.
> Have you TRIED real world applications, especially multiple I/O
>intensive applications? The performance increase can be more than
significant.
I run one of the more disk-intensive I/O applications around - have done so
under DesqView and DoubleDOS as well as under "bare" DOS - and my IN-2000
gives the SAME or a hair HIGHER performance than my 154x's did. MAY be drive-
limited, I'll grant....
> Simple hard drive performance tests won't show the increase in performance:
>you need to be processing multiple threads.
I was talking about DOS performance. I didn't say ANYTHING about OS/2
performance or *nix performance.
>DOS' ability to do this is FAR from great
Read "non-existant"....
>because DOS is not an Operating System
DOS is in fact an Operating System. It may be a low-end doesn't do as much as
you WANT it to do OS, but that does NOT make it "not an OS" - just "limited".
> BF> > The odds are extremely high that the application
> BF> will run very well
> BF> >indeed, quite possibly much better than under DOS,
> BF> directly under an OS/2 VDM.
Nope. The application can be made to run under OS/2, but by SEVERAL reports it
gets a LOT less stable and slower - and it has multiuser built-in ANYWAY, so it
doesn't NEED an "external" multitasker....
> This is just false. In the first place, OS/2's overhead is not that
>significant
It IS noticeably more than DesqView, much less DoubleDOS.
>especially when one is speaking of a serial I/O program plodding
>along at one interrupt every 160,000 cycles or so.
Try one interrupt every 2500 cycles - presuming your BASIC math is correct.
Don't forget, 64 lines NOT 1 line.
>OF course when one
>considers that DOS does not even HAVE support for the serial ports, one
wonders
>why one would ever use DOS in the first place.
Because it provides the minimal functionality needed with reasonable
efficiency, and a LOT of inexpensive hardware is around to run it.
>I have *EIGHT* serial ports,
>all of them just plain, old dumb serial ports with 16550 UARTs, and I can
>transfer at 57,600bps full bore in eight different DOS sessions without a
>hiccup.
TBBS can do 64 such lines using dumb DigiBoards, and the GTek stuff looks like
it might work about as well.
> OS/2 is not a multitasker, it is an Operating System.
OS/2 is a bloated multitasking Operating System.
>DOS is just a kludge of a disk interface utility.
DOS is a minimalist OS that is SMALL - kinda like Unix was in the beginning.
>With no measurable loss in performance, I
>FREQUENTLY am writing messages, while in the background my mailer is
>up/downloading at 1700CPS, concurrently with a backup tape drive doing a full
>backup of my hard drive, music playing from my CD-ROM, and three printers
>running full blast, printing from three separate applications, the
applications
>themselves often having finished their work and been shut down some time ago.
Sounds like what I used to do under DesqView with all of 2 Meg RAM on an
80386-16. Your '486 has how much RAM and runs at what clock speed?
OK, so I prefer to leave the CD-ROM in the BBS machine and play my audio CD's
on a REAL CD player through my stereo system....
* SLMR 2.1a * But I can say goodbye, now that the passion's faded....
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 3894
To: TANYA BROCK Date: 09/24/93 9:50p
Subj: Re: Giga Games Refer: NONE
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On 21 Sep 93 12:11:00, I heard Tanya Brock shout to All:
TB> Has anyone seen a CDROM called GIGA GAMES? I saw it advertised in the
TB> latest issue of PC Magazine. It was in an ad from Walnut Creek so I
TB> would assume that they produced it. Any info would be appreciated and
TB> if anyone was it cheaper than the $39.95 it was advertised for I would
TB> be interested to hear from you.
TB>
TB> Thanks!
Yes, Free Spirit Software has it for $ 19.00
1-800-638-5757
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From: SID LEE Number: 3895
To: ALL Date: 09/24/93 6:55p
Subj: Toshiba/Adaptec 1510/EZSCSI/Groliers Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have recently purchased a Toshiba 3401B CD-ROM drive with an
Adaptec 1510 card, Adaptec EZ-SCSI software. I have 2 File
collection CD's and recently bought a copy of the New Groliers
Multimedia Encyclopedia. The drive works flawlesly with the
"files" CD's and can read the Groliers just fine. The Groliers
install from the CD went just fine BUT IT WILL NOT WORK for me
;-) When I attempt to run it I get an message immediately saying
"Creating Database-- xxx k available" and it just stops. I have
to reboot the machine. I run a rather complex setup here (DV and
a BBS with Stacker etc. but I don't have quite enough memory to
run it inside a DV session so I have to stop DV and the BBS when
trying it) but it behaves identically when I strip down the
AUTOEXEC and CONFIG to the state shown below with one exception.
In the stripped down state the machine doesn't actually hang
though the screen behaves like it does when it hangs. The cursor
dissappears leaving the "message" in a box in the middle of the
screen. In that state however I have discovered that if I type
"cls" (I can't see anything on the screen when I do this) the
screen clears and I get a DOS prompt and everything is fine
again.
I have been in touch with Groliers twice and I am persueing that
but I am wondering if anyone here can suggest a fruitful line of
attack on this rather perplexing problem ;-) I have tried
versions 2.10 (in spite of Groliers documentation which says 2.2
or better is required), 2.21 and 2.22 or MSCDEX.EXE. All behave
identically.
The "ugly" details (stripped down version):
CONFIG.SYS
DEVICE=C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE
DEVICE=C:\EZSCSI\ASPI2DOS.SYS /Z /Y /U- /D
DEVICE=C:\EZSCSI\ASPICD.SYS /D:ASPICD0
SHELL=COMMAND.COM /E:1024 /P
DOS=HIGH
buffers=30
files=40
LASTDRIVE=T:
STACKS=9,256
AUTOEXEC.BAT
@echo off
cls
break on
set verify off
prompt $p$g
c:\cdr\mscdex21.exe /D:ASPICD0 /L:F /M:12 /V /E
PATH=C:\UTIL;C:\DOS
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From: RICHARD MCCARTY Number: 3896
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/24/93 4:07p
Subj: Re: Catalogs Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Adrian Salas to All <=-
AS> If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave
AS> your mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
Please send to:
Richard McCarty
5150 Mae Anne Ave. #213-115
Reno, NV 89523
Thanks!
... Rule 1: Don't sweat the small stuff. Rule 2: It's all small stuff.
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From: RICHARD MCCARTY Number: 3897
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/24/93 4:07p
Subj: Re: Discount cd-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please send your catalog:
Richard McCarty
5150 Mae Anne Ave. #213-115
Reno, NV 89523
Thanks!
... Hey Rocky, watch me pull a tagline outta my hat!
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From: GLENN GARMAN Number: 3898
To: TIM CANFIELD Date: 09/19/93 8:44a
Subj: Kings quest 6 Refer: NONE
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TC>Hey anyone have KQ6 on CD-Rom?
TC>
TC>I have it and am playing it, but I am stuck and am wondering if anyon
TC>else has a clue?
TC>
TC>1> Can't pass the boiling water.
Go get yourself a head of iceberg lettuce...
TC>
TC>2> Can't seem to get into the castle... (tried 3 times, restarted 3 t
TC>is)
Too many steps to put into a message like this. Besides, if you haven't gotten
past the boiling water, you aren't nearly ready to go into the castle...
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From: GLENN GARMAN Number: 3899
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/21/93 8:44p
Subj: Special cd-rom prices Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NB> SHORELINE CD-ROM'S DISCOUNT PRICES
NB> ***LABOR-DAY SPECIALS***
NB>
NB> These are just a few examples of our low prices...We have over 3
NB> titles in stock.
NB>
NB> WING COMMANDER & ULTIMA VI $15.53
NB> WORLD ATLAS (MPC OR DOS) $15.53
NB> KODAK PHOTO CD $15.53
NB> ANIMALS MPC (SAN DIEGO ZOO) $20.70
NB> DAGGER OF AMON RA $32.78 TOO MANY MORE TO LI
NB> KINGS QUEST V $16.74
NB> LOOM $14.66 FOR A COMPLETE CATALO
NB> SUPER SHAREWARE/w/SUPER BBS $31.05 E-mail ADDRESS OR P
NB> TERRORIST GROUP PROFILES (CIA) $31.91 ADDRESS!!!!
NB> NIGHT OWL 9 $30.19 Please send me a copy of your CD
price list.
Glenn Garman
308 East Commercial Street
East Rochester, New York 14445
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From: ERIC TREMBLAY Number: 3900
To: CRAIG GAGNER Date: 09/24/93 8:55a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi problems Refer: NONE
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> Well we tried 11 different drives all manufactured June 93 and a
> multitude of motherboards and they all showed not ready reading
> drive faliure on int 24...
>
> Everyone was exactly the same ...
Were you using the same hard drive controller in every case?
Sometimes it's the hard drive controller that can conflict with the CD-ROM
controller just enough to screw up a few things. I'm living with that
problem over here.
TTYL
Eric
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From: JIM CLEMENTS Number: 3901
To: ANDREW SEE Date: 09/24/93 9:47a
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
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AS>Caddyless drives are fine for small time home users with an inexpensive
AS>collection of ROMs. For a business or bigtime user, with a large
AS>investment in expensive CDROMs caddies are essential.
AS>The Creative kits are targetted at home/game users, look at the CDrom
AS>drives installed in Libraries, Corporations etc. They don't have the 7th
AS>Guest in them, they have expensive database disks, so they use caddy
AS>drives.
AS>Now can we all stop this quasi-religious caddy debate?
I'd like politely to take exception to your references to
"small time home users with an inexpensive collection of ROMs."
I guess I'd fit your description of a "small time home user."
I only have two machines -- one at the cottage and the Pioneer
604X here at home. It's for personal daily use, not a BBS or
anything like that.
And I admit I'm new to cd-rom. I've only been involved with it
for about four years. And I don't know very much about the
subject, heck I didn't even start writing about it until
1991.
I haven't read much about it -- unless you count books such
as The Brady Guide to CD-ROM and Microsoft's 1989/90 CD-ROM
Yearbook, miles of computer magazines and hours searching
such sources as on-line (and on disc) information bases.
And talking to some of developers of the earliest machines,
mainly from Philips. Even researched the early reasons
for such things as caddies -- according to all the
early sources I could find it was largely to do away
with spindle travel and allow use in standard bays.
My "inexpensive collection of ROMs" only numbers about
150 -- I tend not to keep discs I know I'll never use
again. And I don't even own 7th Guest. I do have two
discs with games on them. I keep them to show kids
what the machine can do.
But I must be "small time" because I've never owned and
never needed a caddy. I've recommended them often to
others, especially institutions such as libraries and
schools, businesses and families with small kids who
have sticky fingers. I think they are essential in
some circumstances.
But not all.
And I haven't noticed thousands of messages complaining
about destroyed discs. The manufacturers I've spoken
to tell me they get very few returns. I've never seen
ads seeking used discs and stipulating that they must
never have been used outside a caddy.
"Now can we all stop this quasi-religious caddy debate?"
I think you've done that. You've turned it from quasi-
religious debate to merely insulting condescension.
My point is there is a place for both types of machines.
Most industry watchers (including myself) think you'll
be seeing more and more caddyless drives in the future.
That's already started to happen. But likely there will
still be caddy machines aimed primarily at institutional
and industrial users.
Each system has its advantages and its disadvantages, but
caddyless drives are very definitely not just for "small
time home users with an inexpensive collection of ROMs"
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From: LEE SIMANOFF Number: 3902
To: ALL Date: 09/23/93 5:47p
Subj: Centris for Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Any out there want to buy a Centris 610 in mint condition.
The New 040 Chip
8 Megabytes of RAM
230 Megabyte Hard Drive
Internal Apple 300 CD
Lots of Software
In Mint Condition
Only $2000
Write Back
Lee Simanoff
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From: ROSS FOCKE Number: 3903
To: NEIL HARFERT Date: 09/23/93 8:58p
Subj: Re: 7TH GUEST Refer: NONE
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Neil,
NO problem man, First question, there are two speeds that you need to
look at, the access time and the transfer time. The access time is the
time that it takes for you system to access the CD. This should be
somewhere inbetween 180 and 140 milisec. Anything higher than 180 will
be very noticable. Second is the transfer rate. This is the speed at
which your computer can transfer files or data from the CD to memory or
your harddrive. This speed in a single speed CD should be around
150kbs and for a two speed around 300kps. The new MPC2 standard that
is coming out is 300 so that is what you should look for. Good luck.
Next about The 7th Guest. It is not a comedy but more a mystery novel.
The story centers around mansion that once belonged to this old killer.
YOu as the detective have to solve many puzzles to free the souls of
those killed. Exellent graphics and sould track. It is as close to
virtual reality as one can get on a PC. I rate it an A+ for
innovation!
I hope that this has helped you out.
Ross Focke
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From: ROSS FOCKE Number: 3904
To: STEPHEN ZAPPARDO Date: 09/23/93 9:05p
Subj: Re: New mitsumi 2x speed Refer: NONE
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Stephen,
I don't have the price for the Mitsumi Dual but I do for the Creative
Labs new Dual speed! I picked one up at a Software Etc. for only $149
plus tax (alot here in Los Angeles county, grin). I love being able to
play music CD's as I write this note! The beauty of dual comes home to
the ears. Give it a try, after all Creative is the standard.
Ross
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From: GARY STIMPSON Number: 3905
To: ALL Date: 09/23/93 8:09p
Subj: CD32 Titles 1/2 Refer: NONE
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Titles to be released for the Amiga CD32
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Last updated: 17-Sep-93
Compiled by: Gary Stimpson
* = new since last update
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1884 (Millenium)
1869 (Flairsoft)
7th Guest (Virgin)
Akira (Ice)
Alfred Chicken (Mindscape)
Alien Breed 2 (Team 17)
Ambermoon CD32 - November release, rumoured
Amiga CD Football (Plattsoft)
B 17 Flying Fortress (Microprose)
Battlestorm (Titus)
Biosphere (Bullfrog/Electronic Arts)
Body Blows [2] (Team 17)
Burning Rubber (Ocean)
Cannon Fodder (Virgin)
Captive 2 (Mindscape)
Case of the Cautious Condor (Tiger Media)
Chaos Engine (Mindscape)
Cinderella (Discus)
Civilization (Microprose)
Compilation Disk (Mindscape)
Composer Quest (Virtual Entertainment)
Connoisseurs of Fine Art (Lascelles)
Creation (Bullfrog)
Daughter of Serpents (Millenium)
Defender of the Crown II (Sachs Entertainment)
Diggers (Millenium) -
"Diggers has been written from scratch on the CD32 -
it's not a conversion. There are six digital CD audio
tracks, at *least* 256 colours used throughout, with
24-bit copper backgrounds. The 34 levels each consist of
32,000 locations, with seven terrain types. Because we
didn't have to worry about the size of the game, we were
able to go to town with the amount of graphics."
- Toby Simpson ( Programmer )
Dino Worlds (Millenium)
Dogfight (Microprose)
Dracula (Psygnosis)
Drive Fractalus (Mindscape)
Dune [2] (Virgin)
England World Cup '94
Epic (Ocean)
F117A Stealth Fighter (Microprose) *
FA Premier Soccer (Ocean)
Fantastic Voyage (Centaur)
First Contact (Ocean)
Flashback (US Gold)
Flight of the Amazon Queen (Renegade)
Formula One GP (Microprose)
Frontier (Konami)
Global Chaos (Hex)
Grolier Encyclopedia 2 (Xiphias)
Guiness Books Of Records II (New Media)
Gunship 2000 (Microprose)
Hero Quest-Legend of Soracil (Gremlin)
Heroic Age of Space Flight/NASA (Troika)
Indiana Jones FOA (Lucasarts)
Inferno (Ocean)
Innocent Until Caught (Psygnosis) *
Insight Technology (Optonica)
International Championship Golf (Ocean)
Jet Strike (Rasputin Soft) *
John Doe (Ocean)
Jurassic Park (Ocean) -
This is an Ultima Underworld/Wolfenstein 3D type game where you
have to hunt Raptors etc...
18+ months in development so far: October
release. "We couldn't do the 3D section with the
kiddy-type consoles, but we can with the Amiga."
- Ciaran Brennan of Bastion, Ocean PR
Legacy (Microprose)
Lemmings Compilation (Psygnosis)
Liberation (Mindscape)
Lionheart (Thalion) - Rumoured
Litil Divil (Gremlin)
Long Hard Day at the Ranch (Discus)
Lotus Turbo Trilogy (Gremlin)
Magic Carpet
Manchester United 2 (Krisalis)
Micro Machines (Code Masters) *
Microcosm (Psygnosis)
Monkey Island (Lucasarts)
Monkey Island 2 (Lucasarts)
Monkey Island 3 (Lucasarts) -
Perhaps.
Mortal Kombat (Acclaim/Probe)
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From: GARY STIMPSON Number: 3906
To: ALL Date: 09/23/93 8:10p
Subj: CD32 Titles 2/2 Refer: NONE
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Moving gives me a stomach ache (Discus)
Mr. Nutz (Ocean)
Mud Puddle (Discus)
Musicolor (Virgin)
Nick Faldo's Championship Golf (Grandslam)
Nigel Mansell GP (Gremlin)
North Polar Expedition (Virgin)
One Step Beyond (Ocean) -
The follow-up adventure of Quavery Colin. Release: Christmas.
Oscar (Flairsoft)
Overdrive (Team 17)
Pinball Dreams
Pinball Fantasies (21st Century) -
256 colour tables, CD-quality audio.
Pinball Illusions (21st Century)
Prehistoric (Titus)
Premier Manager (Ocean)
Project X2 (Team 17)
Putty (System 3)
Return to the Lost World (Mirage - may licence)
Rise of the Robots (Mirage - may licence)
Robocod (Millenium)
Robocod James Pond 2 (Millenium) *
Robocod James Pond 3 (Millenium) *
Rough and Tumble (Renegade)
Sabre Team (Krisalis)
Second Samurai (Virgin)
Sensible World of Soccer (Mindscape)
Sim City (Maxis)
Sim Life (Mindscape)
SleepWalker (Ocean)
Snooker/Pool 2 (Virgin)
Soccer Kid (Krisalis)
Space Junk (Mirage - may licence)
Space Simulation (Gremlin)
Stamps of France and Morocco (Seriat)
Star Trek 25th Anniversary
Super Frog [2] (Team 17)
Syndicate (Bullfrog) -
Ability to look into buildings and rotate the 3D view (and no
doubt the other graphics & sound will be improved)
Tale of Peter Rabbit (Discus)
TFX (Ocean/DID)
The Cure (Ice)
The Legend of Soracil (Gremlin)
The Ninja Trilogy (System 3)
The Two Towers
Theatre of Death (Psygnosis) *
Theme Park (Bullfrog) *
Trivial Pursuit *
Ultima Underworld (Mindscape)
Uridium 2 (Renegade)
Utopia 2 (Gremlin)
Various Games Park [Pack?] (Mindscape)
Whale's Voyage (Flairsoft)
Wing Commander (Mindscape)
Wing Commander 2 (Mindscape)
World Circuit Grand Prix (Microprose)
Zool [2] (Gremlin)
--=> The End! <=--
Gary
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 3907
To: ALL Date: 09/24/93 12:53a
Subj: SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
| Starvector Sales Bulletin #6: HOT NEW CD-ROM! |
| Title: SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD Price: $25 |
* Fully BBS-ready * 593 megabytes * 6148 files
* File listing available: VAULTGLD.ZIP @ 509-457-0206 (V.32bis)
2-CD SET: Software Vault Gold + Software Vault 2...(NO dupes!)....$44
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)
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From: DAVE REED Number: 3908
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/24/93 3:42a
Subj: OS/2 CD ROM WITH MAXIMUS. Refer: NONE
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Hello Brice!
Tuesday September 21 1993 13:19, Brice Fleckenstein wrote to Joe Patterson:
>> Allen, if your running OS/2 you will need a SCSI drive.
BF> There are Mitsumi drivers for OS/2 out there somewhere, per widespread
BF> reports....
For running under OS/2, the Mitsumi is NOT the preferred way to go. The SCSI
drives are DIRECTLY supported by OS/2, where the Mitsumi needs 3rd-party device
drivers that don't necessarily work as advertised. The 3rd-party drivers are
for those that were foolish enough to buy the Mitsumi before realizing what a
mistake they made. Any serious OS/2 user is going to buy a SCSI drive.
... Friends don't let friends vote democratic!
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From: WILLIAM SCHNEIDER, JR. Number: 3909
To: ED DUCHEK Date: 09/24/93 1:24p
Subj: OS/2 CD's Refer: NONE
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ED>I have os/2 arcive cd rom, I didn't care for os/2, like windows better, so n
ED>I have the CD Rom disk. Will trade for another title, clipart or adult
ED>prefered, but games probably ok, or even cash.
Ed, what title? What's on it? How much?
William
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From: JIM CUMMINGS Number: 3910
To: CHRIS DONNEGAN Date: 09/24/93 8:36p
Subj: GOVT CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
If for instance, I wanted to know all the laws restricting my Constitutional
Rights to keep and bear arms, it would be possible to search and find all the
laws relating to firearms. One could them review them for
un-Constitutioality. If you were a lobbist for a particular industry, the
search program would find all conflicting laws concerning your industry. Any
night you were having trouble sleeping, reading them would cerrtainly make
you drowsy. You could quote parts of the law accurately in letters to your
mother. There are many, many ways this could be used. (movie Police Academy)
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From: VINCE SORENSEN Number: 3911
To: ALL Date: 09/23/93 11:38p
Subj: SHAREWARE STUDIO III Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
**** Shareware Studio III in stock! Just $39 Canadian! ****
CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA is proud to be a part of bringing you
this excellent collection of 5100+ files (630+ Meg)... Many of the
files are from the exclusive premium Superboard collection, and
this disc uses the best, most-versatile, and easy-to-use interface
on any CD-ROM to date. No archive errors, BBS ads, known viruses,
or AV codes... .ZIP archive dates match the latest date within the
archive. Call 306-789-4654 or fax 306-789-8690 for your copy today!
** BONUS ** For $69 Canadian, receive the full set of Vol 1, 2 & 3!
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From: MARK GLENN Number: 3912
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/24/93 3:36p
Subj: Re: The Black BOX Refer: NONE
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Hello Boris!
Well havent seen this echo in a while but has the black box come out yet
and could you send me more info on it my fido netmail # is 1:290/17
and yes Boris does a good job.... just a happy Boris customer....
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From: MARK GLENN Number: 3913
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/24/93 3:39p
Subj: RED HOT Refer: NONE
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Hello Boris!
In a message to All <09/22/93> Boris Osadciw wrote:
BO> HACKER CHRONICAL - $18
BO> DR.CD COLLECTION - 4 CD'S - $55.
Boris could you netmail me what is on these two cd roms im interested in
getting these two thanks ..... 1:290/17
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From: MARK GLENN Number: 3914
To: KEVIN PLUMMER Date: 09/24/93 3:45p
Subj: Dealers Wanted! Refer: NONE
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Hello Kevin!
In a message to All <09/21/93> Kevin Plummer wrote:
KP> ==========>>>>>> W A N T E D D E A L E R S <<<<<<===========
KP> Wanting people to become Dealers, Or to distribute to Dealers
KP> Call Mutli-Media and ask for:
KP> Susan
KP> Cheapest Prices around !!!!
KP> Or send Name, A fax Number, Or phone Number to where you can be
KP> reached to 1:231/570
KP> 1-800-865-5354
KP> =================================================================
KP> --- Squish v1.01
KP> * Origin: The Softwares Zone (1:231/570)
Mark Glenn
515-244-2275
fido # 1:290/17
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 3915
To: ALEJANDRO RODRIGUEZ HERED Date: 09/24/93 2:41p
Subj: Compras. Refer: NONE
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ARH=> Hola Adrian.
ARH=> Mi direccion esta en Madrid (España (un poco lejos ¿No?)).
ARH=>Mejor dejame una pequeña lista de precios de CD's, por el mail,aunque
ARH=>si estas interesado en mandarla por correo, te dejo mi direccion:
ARH=> Alejandro Rodriguez Heredero.
ARH=> C/ Valdivieso Nº 7.
ARH=> Piso 1º H.
ARH=> Madrid 28023
ARH=> España
ARH=> Por cierto, ¿De donde llamas?.
ARH=>Saludos.
ARH=> Alex.
ARH=>---
Hola Alex,
Te oy a mandar una lista de precios a Madrid, espero que puedamos ahcer
negocio.
Hasta luego
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From: RON FINDLING Number: 3916
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/23/93 8:54a
Subj: CD-ROM vs. disk versions Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>RF>However, it would be interesting if software manufacturers got together
>RF>to make CD-ROM *drives* cheap enough so that "everyone" could afford one,
>Now that they are under $200, that's ALREADY true.
Unfortunately, you're mainly talking about "cheapo" drives that are
getting out of date, and when one adds in the cost of the interface...
nope, we're not there yet...
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From: RON FINDLING Number: 3917
To: BRYAN MITCHELL Date: 09/24/93 5:14a
Subj: Re: Os/2 and mitsumi Refer: NONE
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> * Reply to msg originally in CDROM
> -=> Quoting Jeff Hubert to All <=-
> JH> Can somebody please tell me how to get any of the os/2 cd-rom drivers
> Had the same problem. Got kinda upset as IBM didn't tell me which
> CD-Rom's were supported when I ordered. Unfortunately I ordered mine
> on CD and had to wait an extra two weeks for the driver before I could
> even set up OS/2. Hope this helps.
This doesn't make sense. If you could use your CD-ROM from DOS (and I'll
assume you could have), then you could have easily made install disks
from disk images on the CD. Then you could have installed OS/2, driver
or no driver.
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From: DAVID HO Number: 3918
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/25/93 10:32p
Subj: PANASONIC CDROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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From: LOU PETRALIA Number: 3919
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/24/93 9:54p
Subj: BUSTY BABES VOL II-NE Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
-=> Quoting Bob Hall to Lou Petralia <=-
BH> The entire issue over adult titles, discussions is driving me nuts.
BH> Like yourself, the wannabe's can get on my nerves. As a matter of
BH> fact I have a big poster in my office that says, "I only have one nerve
BH> left, don't get on it!" :-)
BH> ALL I am requesting now, is that if anyone should talk about the adult
BH> titles, they do it with some taste and discretion.
BH> I'd give anything if I'd never mentioned it in the first place.
BH> Bob Hall
BH> not so moderately moderating moderator any more.
Thanks for the response Bob, and I agree and also believe that adult titles
can be discuesed and talked about in good taste without using certain
descriptive terms. Previous talk about them have helped me make decision
to buy certain ones and pass up others rather that take a shot in the dark.
... Have you ever wondered where people in hell tell each other to go?
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From: JEFF JENKINS Number: 3920
To: TIM WENAS Date: 09/26/93 6:30a
Subj: Cd Kits Prices <Aust>e Refer: NONE
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I have the panasonic 563, it's it's the best CD I have had yet!
it's FAST and I got a pretty good deal
CD drive w/controller, stereo sound card, 3 very good CD's including MPC
encylcolpedia, mic... for 399.00 plus it was on sale, and I got to use my 10%
discound card I got with my Mongomery Wards credit card.
it only cost me 350.00!
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From: PAUL NALEY Number: 3921
To: GARY MCGEE Date: 09/25/93 10:24p
Subj: UltraStor 14F Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GM>Hello SCSI/CD ROM users
GM>I am looking for the device drives to use a Toshiba 3401B CD-ROM drive with
GM>UltraStor 14F SCSI host adapter.
GM>BTW:
GM>I am looking for the address of the UltraStor Corporation. Perhaps there
GM>phone number, BBS phone number, FAX Number.......
Ultrastor will not sell you the software directly. Call Hard Drives
International and inquire about the CD ROM Driver software. I bought my
Ultrastor 14F in the kit version and it came with the device driver
software. Hard Drive International has a 800 # and is listed by the 800
information operator or check a copy of Computer Shopper for the phone
#.
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From: ED DUCHEK Number: 3922
To: WILLIAM SCHNEIDER, JR. Date: 09/26/93 9:51a
Subj: OS/2 CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
William,
Answering a msg of <24 Sep 93>, from William Schneider, Jr. to Ed Duchek:
I guess you were asking me what title I would prefer for OS/2 Archive?
I would love to get Wing Commander II for it, but lacking that would not mind
any of the clip-art CD's.... or even an adult one..
In those catagories, I am not too picky, others I may be. Hope this answers
your question.
Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069
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From: JULIAN SCHOFFEL Number: 3923
To: ALL Date: 09/23/93 5:02a
Subj: CD Speedway Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have a NEC Multispin, which is supposed to be one of the fastest CD-Rom
drives around at the moment. I was thinking of getting CD Speedway which is a
caching program. Has anyone got this program and if so do you think it will
make any noticeable difference to my drive?
Regards
Julian.
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From: QUINN LARKIN Number: 3924
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/21/93 1:46p
Subj: Re: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave your
>mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
Can you add me to your list? My address is-
PO Box 30,004
Momona
Otago
New Zealand
Thanks...
-Quinn Larkin-
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From: DAVID POMEROY Number: 3925
To: QUINN LARKIN Date: 09/22/93 6:33a
Subj: Re: cd-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
ok, thanks for the support. At the moment I'll keep your name etc on file.
I'll email you as soon as its ready to go - ie: once I've talked to a few more
people, chatted with some suppliers etc. If I need some help I'll definitely
let you know....
Thanks,
David P.
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From: GARY WALKER Number: 3926
To: DAVID WILLS Date: 09/21/93 9:12p
Subj: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> wouldn't want to end up in hell, now do we? Anyway, don't you know
> that naughty pictures will make you a sicko pervert, kill everyone,
> turn to a life of crime, and take large amounts of illegal drugs???
>
I'm a starter for that. Now, what order do we do these in? :))
> Gee, is this 100% flame bait or what?
>
Yup...wait & see :)
G.
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From: GARY WALKER Number: 3927
To: RYAN DAWSON Date: 09/21/93 9:12p
Subj: CD+graphics Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>
> Hey there. I don't know where you can get such a program but if you do
> find out, I'd like to know. CD+G discs are fascinating. How can you
> tell if your music disc has graphics on it? I heard that a lot of the
> early compact discs where CD+G but that they weren't all that popular
>
>
You could try and come across a Commodore CDTV machine, it plays the
CD+G and sends the video to TV and plays the audio just like any CD
at the same time. Commodore have stopped making the machine now, but
there will be a few around still. They are now producing a killer
CD game machine (which will do heaps of CDROM/MPEG tricks too) called
the CD32. Look out for it.
Gary.
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From: GARY WALKER Number: 3928
To: GREG SWAN Date: 09/21/93 9:12p
Subj: amiga cd-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>
>
> just wonder'd if anyone out here is a amiga user??????
Yes, I am.
> if so do you have a cd-rom for it? was thinking abt getting one.
Yes, I do. A Texel DM3024 internal SCSI one (I have A3000 machine)
> is it worth it?????? what do you think?????? are the games that much
> more
> awesome?????? let me know please.
No the games are still awful, but the PD collections make the purchase
worthwhile. Dont get a drive to play the games solely, or you WILL
be disappointed.
If you want to go CD games, get Commodore's new CD32 machine. It will
blow any CD based game machine into the weeds, and do lots of other
tricks as well.
Cheers, Gary.
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From: RUSSELL HARDIE Number: 3929
To: ALL Date: 09/22/93 11:27p
Subj: 7th Guest Refer: NONE
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I have finally got 7th Guest working on my system, but....
When I play it, when people speek, their voices break up so much that it is
almost impossible to undertand them.
Any suggestions?
My system is:
486-25SX, 4Mb RAM
Panasonic Double Speed Cd-ROM Drive
Sound Blaster 16 ASP
I have installed the 7th Guest fix, dated December 1992. Is there are a later
one available that will help my problem? If so, if anyone can give me the node
number of a BBS I can FREQ it off, I'll be very greatful (preferably v32bis).
Thanks!
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From: QUINN LARKIN Number: 3930
To: DAVID BENFELL Date: 09/23/93 8:12p
Subj: Re: CD PRE-ORDERS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi David
Could I also get one of your catalogs? My address is:
PO Box 30,004
Momona
Otago
Thanks...
-Quinn Larkin-
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From: TONY STOTT Number: 3931
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/25/93 7:50p
Subj: Totally Off-topic!!!! Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
On 09-21-93, in a colourful display of the English language, Bob Hall said
to Rowan Evans:-
BH>RE> Sunny Sydney.......
BH>
BH>Wish I was there this morning. Eating a "bikki" with a tad of Vegamit
BH>a Cherry Ripe, a hunk of Violet Crumble, a taste of Billy Tea, and
BH>perhaps toward the end of the day, a cold 4F. If my hands got dirty,
BH>could use that wonderful Sard soap to wash my hands. AHHHHHhhhhhh for
BH>the land of enchantment.....
Okay Bob, here's the deal..... You obviously are in dire need of a
mainline fix for your Aussie habit......you get yourself on a plane in
September 2000 to sunny old Sydney, and I'll be your host for the Olympic
games! (They will be happening 30 minutes from my door) TANKS BEIJING!!
I promise I won't talk about adult cds, caddies or adverts!
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From: POE LIM Number: 3932
To: TIM WENAS Date: 09/25/93 6:32p
Subj: Q'S On These New Panason Refer: NONE
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Hello Tim,
On Sep 23 13:58 in a msg to Rowan Evans, Tim Wenas of 3:635/550 wrote:
> Hmm.. and so the 563 is 300KB/s, 350ms access but _not_ SCSI at all?
> So it seems that a 503 (never heard of that version b4) is bettre
> than a 562B and a 563?
The 562 is 320ms access, with 64K buffer; the 503 is the same, with a 256K
buffer. Both have a sustained trasnfer rate of 300ms, with the burst rate of
the 562 being 2.3Mb/sec, and the 503 being 2.8Mb/sec. The best Panasonic is the
533 (also SCSI), with a 280ms access, otherwise similar to the 503 (look at the
503 a a budget 533 I suppose).
Cheers,
Poe
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From: SIMON MACKAY Number: 3933
To: PATRICK FITZGERALD Date: 09/23/93 9:43p
Subj: SB-16 ASP + Panasonic CR- Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have an answer to your CD problem
PF>AUTOEXEC.BAT
PF>
PF>SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330 T6
PF>SET SOUND=C:\SB16
PF>C:\SB16\SB16SET /M:220 /VOC:220 /CD:220 /MIDI:220 /TREBLE:0
PF>C:\SB16\SBCONFIG.EXE /S
PF>LH C:\WINDOWS\SMARTDRV.EXE
PF>LH MOUSE/2
PF>@ECHO OFF
PF>PROMPT $p$g
PF>PATH C:\DOS;c:\windows
PF>SET TEMP=C:\DOS
PF>C:\DOS\DOSSHELL
PF>C:\SB16\DRV\MSCDEX.EXE /D:MSCD001 /V /M:15
The line where the MSCDEX command is should be prior to the line which
activates your command shell i.e. DOSSHELL
- best to locate it after the SBCONFIG line.
The line that activates the shell should be at the last line of the shell,
because you would have to exit the shell fully before enabling the CD-ROM
drive.
If you have further trouble with the CD drive, please let me know.
Thanks, Simon :-)
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From: PAUL COLLIER Number: 3934
To: PAT RICKERSON Date: 09/24/93 12:04a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Pat Rickerson to Paul Collier <=-
PR> Hello Paul!
Hiya Pat!
PC> $450!! I can get it for $A65! I'm glad I don't live in America.
PR>
PR> Well we like it here!
I wasn't saying it's a bad place to live (no smiley so I take it you're
serious) I'm just saying that $US450 is a little rich for a cd that you can
get here for $A65. Have you seen "The Adult Reference Library" ? Not a bad
disc, just in case you're hunting around for some good stuff 8-)
BFN......Paul
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From: TONY STOTT Number: 3935
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/25/93 1:04p
Subj: Zoological Logic Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
On 09-18-93, Mike Shannon elucidated to Brice Fleckenstein:
MS>BF>it's a royal PAIN to get a disc into a "Sony-style" caddy without
MS>BF>scratching it!
MS>
MS>Not if you have an opposable thumb. 8)
ROFL! I take back all the things I used to think about American humour
being an oxymoron! :)
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From: RICK POTTS Number: 3936
To: GENE EHRICH Date: 09/25/93 8:33p
Subj: Encarta... Refer: NONE
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GE> I can't imagine anybody will pay $105 for a used CD that you can
GE> buy new for just a few dollars more.
GE>===
That's a $250 program he's selling....Not a $49 one.
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From: JAY HENRY Number: 3937
To: GARY STIMPSON Date: 09/25/93 10:23p
Subj: Re: Amiga CD32 Refer: NONE
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JR> You also mentioned an expansion connector. Have
JR> you heard any word on
JR> whether this will have a SCSI port? If it does, we can expect to see
JR> Commodore generate a lot of sales to people wanting high performance
JR> CD-ROM drives. I'd love to buy both a CD-ROM drive and an Amiga for
JR> the price of just the drive! ;)
GS> No idea. You're right though, they'd make a lot of
GS> money and that would be
GS> a really smart move. Bet it's IDE! :-) Anyway, best to contact someone
GS> from Commodore or a person who actually owns a CD32. I can relay your
GS> message to the Amiga CDROM echo, maybe your questions will be answered
GS> there. I'll get back to you if I receive a reply.
CD-ROM's are normally SCSI. The CD32 uses a Sony CD-ROM with Commodore
microcode technology - it IS a SCSI device. Why else would AmigaDOS 3.1, which
is included with the CD32, have a SCSI_CD-ROM file system?
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3938
To: TANYA BROCK Date: 09/25/93 6:48p
Subj: Re: Giga Games Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Has anyone seen a CDROM called GIGA GAMES? I saw it
>> advertised in the latest issue of PC Magazine. It was in an
>> ad from Walnut Creek so I would assume that they produced it.
>> Any info would be appreciated and if anyone was it cheaper
>> than the $39.95 it was advertised for I would be interested
>> to hear from you.
>> Thanks!
Yep, we have it!
Give us a call at 800-243-0517 anytime and we'll be happy to assist you
further.
Price - $25.
Boris Osadciw
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From: VINCE SORENSEN Number: 3939
To: RUSSELL HARDIE Date: 09/25/93 9:53a
Subj: CD-ROM DUPLICATE ANALYZER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> It used a program referred to as "Bob Neal's CD-ROM Duplicate
-> Analyzer v1.0"
-> Does anyone know the filename of that program? I would love to get
-> hold of it.
-> Even better, do you know if it is on any of the following discs:
-> P.S. In case you can't follow this, I'm after a program that will
-> tell me the % of duplicate files between all of my shareware CD-ROMs.
Hi Russell!
The name of the file by Bob Neal is "CDDA????.ZIP"... and its on
Shareware Studio III. If you'd like a copy, give me a call at
306-789-4654. We'll beat any price in the echo by 10%. By the way, you
may want to use another tool that you'll find on Studio III. There's a
program called "CD-ROM PRO" which allows you to easily keep track of
your CD-ROM library - its easy and quick to find your programs, find out
duplication rates, and does pile more. Look for CDPRO20D.ZIP, also on
Studio III. You'll like it so much, you'll want to register ;-)
Vince
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From: EUGENE FEDOROWICH Number: 3940
To: ALL Date: 09/25/93 7:41a
Subj: Canadian Supplier Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for canadian suppliers of CD software products.
I have noticed quite a few American vendors but I think it may be easier to
deal with Canadian suppliers due to customs etc.
Please leave me mail here as to address etc.
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From: EUGENE FEDOROWICH Number: 3941
To: ALL Date: 09/25/93 7:44a
Subj: World Book Encyclopedia Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I noticed a post a few days ago about the World Book Encyclopedia. Does anyone
have any information on this. Is it available? How much? Etc?
Thanks in advance.
Eugene Fedorowich
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From: EUGENE FEDOROWICH Number: 3942
To: ALL Date: 09/25/93 8:01a
Subj: CD Software reviews Refer: NONE
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I like the idea of software reviews of CD Software!!
I can say that Battlechess (CD Version of course) is absolutely excellent!!
My kids love the tutorial and though the playing ability isn't the greatest
it will be able to beat 95% of the people out there. The sound and graphics
are both superb!!
Well worth the money!
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From: EUGENE FEDOROWICH Number: 3943
To: ALL Date: 09/25/93 7:52a
Subj: Chessmaster 3000 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* Original msg to: All
Can anyone comment on the Cd version of Chessmaster 3000.What are the
differences or enhancements over the DOS or windows disk versions if any?
Does it have a larger game library? Any comments or observations appreciated.
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From: BOB DUNN Number: 3944
To: DON SHORTRIDGE Date: 09/24/93 9:54p
Subj: BBS Listing Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DS> Whould please add a new BBS to your list? Name: SECURE BACKUPS
DS> Number:
DS> (904)455-2181 SYSOP: Guy Winfrey Runs At: 14400 Location: Pensac
DS>
DS> --- Synchronet
DS> * Origin: Flamingo Ventures * Pensacola, FL * (1:3612/320)
Did you send this to me?
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3945
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/24/93 11:01a
Subj: SONY 535 SPEEDUP Refer: NONE
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> BF> Unless somethng happened VERY recently, both Adaptec and Trantor are
> BF> independent companies.
> Mid-July is recent??
It was at the time....
> "What did Adaptec think of the DB-25 connector being used by some
> companies as their SCSI connector rather than the 50pin Centronics type
> connector?".
> The Adaptec techo's answer was -
> "Since we've bought Trantor, we think its fine!"
It's all the fault of the Macintosh anyway - too bad more folks don't use THAT
defacto standard instead of inventing their own pinouts....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3946
To: TOM GUELKER Date: 09/24/93 11:04a
Subj: PANASONIC CR562B Refer: NONE
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>BF> >Now let say you purchase 10 disks at an average cost of 40 dollars each
an
>BF> >then buy 10 caddies at a cost of 7.50 each. You would have had to trash
>BF> >disks or 20 percent of your programs before buying the caddies will save
>BF> >anything above the cost of their purchase.
>That's not true, Brice. The tray is not permanently attached to the CD. You
can
>take the CD out of the tray
Which defeats all of the claimed advantages of using a caddy at all.
>Are you paying $7.50 for caddies?
I'm not paying for them at all - look closer, the guy I was replying to was
claiming to pay $7.50 for them (and I think he was Australian, so the price MAY
have been reasonable in HIS area).....
>I've got two small children that use my computer. The piece of mind I get with
>a caddy is worth the extra minimal cost.
One of the few cases where a caddy is a real advantage, I'll grant. I hope to
have to worry about that problem in a few years....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3947
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/24/93 11:27a
Subj: PANASONIC 562B + SB MONO Refer: NONE
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> I think its more the speakers than the sound card, as I like to hear
> my Audio CDs fairly *LOUD* and have had a lot of trouble finding a
> set of speakers that will cope!
Try running the audio output into a good preamp then into a good Carver amp and
feed that into a pair of Infinity QRS or QLS speakers - THAT should handle your
"loud" requirement easily!
I've seen a couple of bands that used a pair of bridged Crown M600 (2
KILOwatts) amps feeding a pair of Infinity QLS for their STAGE amp/speaker
system....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3948
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/24/93 11:28a
Subj: CADDY-O-RAMA Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> There are a lot of people with caddy type CD-ROM drives that appear to be
> insecure enough to have to join in to beat on one guy who says *NOT!*....
Two guys, not just one....
8-)
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3949
To: ERIC CASSIMATIS Date: 09/24/93 1:06p
Subj: MITSUMI CD ROM DRIVE; SO Refer: NONE
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>GM>Scott: GM>I have a Mitsumi LU 005S (latest I think?)
>Um, this may sound like a stupid question, but can I assume that the Tandy
>CDR-1000 and the CDROM you have, via the descriptions given below, are the
same
>type and model???
They are not. The Tandy was an OEM version of the Mitsumi LU002 (600ms) drive.
>If this is so, please confirm - or ANYone else out there. I need to know, so
>that I can get the mitsumi drivers for OS2.1 ....
Those likely WILL work with your drive....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3950
To: DONALD NELSON Date: 09/24/93 1:19p
Subj: HELP!!!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>does anyone know how to connect a mitsumi cd-rom drive model CRMC to a sound
>blaster pro. i need to hook up the cd interface not the audio.
You DON'T.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3951
To: CHRIS WISE Date: 09/24/93 5:38p
Subj: MAKERS OF CDS Refer: NONE
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>This is going to the makers of CD's (which I am sure there are a few out
>there). I just returned from a computer show, and do you know the MAJOR
reason
>why alot of CD's did not sell at a booth I helped run? Because the makers had
>no list of the programs contained on the CD. It does not have to be a full
>list, just a run down of some of the major programs on the CD.
Out of typically 5000 programs, which do you want to list?
Granted, Monster Media includes such a list - in a BOOK that is a lot larger
than the ROM itself....
>would you publish a music CD without the song listing on the back?
It is MUCH easier to print the list of typically 10 (RARELY as high as 20)
songs on an audio disc in the available space....
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From: NEIL BERGMAN Number: 3952
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/25/93 2:31p
Subj: CROSS POSTS Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
Bob:
I figured out why my messages keep appearing in your conference. I have
been posting on two searate boards. Appearantly, on one of them when
I post in one fido area my messages are duplicated to all fido cdrom
areas. I think I have corrected this.
Sorry,
Neil Bergman
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From: NEIL BERGMAN Number: 3953
To: TANYA BROCK Date: 09/25/93 2:31p
Subj: GIGA GAMES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
-> Has anyone seen a CDROM called GIGA GAMES? I saw it advertised in
-> latest issue of PC Magazine. It was in an ad from Walnut Creek so I
-> would assume that they produced it. Any info would be appreciated an
-> if anyone was it cheaper than the $39.95 it was advertised for I woul
-> be interested to hear from you.
I have it in stock and sell it for $17.50, I also have 300+ titles
at discount prices. Get me your mailing address for a catalog, or
call or fax an order.
Neil Bergman
Shoreline CD-ROM
(310) 652-2858
Fax: (310) 652-2608
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From: NEIL BERGMAN Number: 3954
To: CHIP NORTH Date: 09/25/93 2:31p
Subj: RE: L.A. STRIPPERS CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am posting this to Chip North in the hopes that I can clarify my
methods and intentions in posting my ads, not only to Chip but to all
who may be concerned or interested in this discussion.
First, let me say that after I posted my first ads I received a message
from Lance Stewart, in which he stated that he was glad I had entered
the CD-ROM market and we discussed the general status of drives,
availability, etc. At this time I expressly asked him if he had any
objections to my posting and he expressly said that I should go ahead.
He mentioned that another guy (I assume that to be Wee Yung sp?) had
made bombing runs with his ads and he did not appreciate that. I agree
and I think if you check the frequency of my posts you will find no such
action on my part.
Second, and this is is most important, I post in only 2 areas. One is
PUBLIC; I believe this to be just what it says.....I have as much right
to post publically as anyone else, commercial or not. You can choose to
read or not to read my messages, you can censor them, you can delete
them, that's your business and I respect your right to do so. I also
post in the SBTRADER. I believe this is a commercial or semi-commercial
area, where there may be interest in my product.
Third, I sell a wide range of CD-ROMS, not just adult. I have
encyclopedias, shareware, games as well as adult. I think that some
people who read and monitor these areas may have an interest in my
products. I am local and this is a legitimate business. I could
not advertise this publically if I could fulfill. Further, I place
a disclaimer in every ad which advises the buyer that I require that
they be 18 years or older to purchase any adult product. As the seller
it is incumbent on me to verify this fact. I require a written or verbal
statement, which constitutes a contract on the part of the buyer that
he or she certifies that they are telling the truth with regard to age.
I feel this is the very best I can do to to protect myself and the public from
abuse by minors. My personal feeling is that I will do my best and hope
that parents do their best! My feeling about hard-core adult
material is that I could care less about it, but since people seem to
want and enjoy it...good for them!!
Forth, and perhaps most importantly, I would like to explain my post
regarding "L.A. Strippers". Although this CD-ROM contains "explicit
nudity" it is NOT RATED. It is not just a f-flick transferred to CD-ROM!
It is an interactive title that has great music, and professional
dancers in a carefully scripted production produced expressly for CD-
ROM! I should know because I produced the video, arranged and produced
most of the music, did the post production, worked on the software
development, beta-tested the master disc, supervised the artwork and
approved the final product for release. This title is unique in the
adult market. It is full-motion video (75 minutes), runs at 30 frames-
per-second, has full stereo audio and is interactive. I believe it has
a place in the development of entertainment in digital media.
I could care less about the genre, however, the fact that you are now
able to place 75 minutes of real-time video on a 5" disc only serves to
insure that this format is the wave of the future. As surely as vinyl
records were replaced by analog tape, video tape will be replaced by
digital disc's as the way in which entertainment is delivered to the
consumer. I also feel that when software developers spend this kind of
time, money and creative energy on new product it is healthy for the
computer industry as a whole. Good software drives the sales of
hardware, forces the competition to produce better programs.... and on
and on!!
Finally, If you look at my announcement post for L.A. STRIPPERS, nowhere
do I mention, in overt detail, the content of the program. I do quote
some of the reviews, but I believe the rest is left to the imagination.
I posted this announcement to let the local users know that if they were
interested in this product they could purchase it from me for $44.95,
after October 1, 1995 the price goes up to around $75.00.
I hope this post answers and responds to some of your objections. I have
the greatest respect for your positions, I hope you have the same for
mine.
Sincerely,
Neil Bergman
Shoreline CD-ROM
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From: JOHN BIERRIE Number: 3955
To: RONALD KEENEY Date: 09/25/93 10:05a
Subj: 2 or More Mitsumi's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Ronald Keeney,
In a message on 24 Sep 93, at 08:06, you wrote to All saying:
RK> Has anyone ran 2 or more Mitsumi ROMS on a system. I have one going
RK> now and it has been running great, and instead of purchasing the Pioneer
RK> CD Changer, I would just like to try and add 1 more Mitusmi to the
RK> system, which would be enough.
RK> If anyone has been running more than 1, on their bbs, I should would
RK> like to know their setup.
Ronald,
We've got two running here without difficulty (thanks to someone in FL who
assisted us!). Below are the lines we use in the config.sys and autoexec.bat
respectively:
Config.sys
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:1 C:\DEV\MTMCDE.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:300 /A:0 /M:20
/T:5 /I:10
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\DEV\MTMCDE.SYS /D:MSCD002 /P:330 /A:0 /M:20
/T:7 /I:11
Autoexec.bat
c:\qemm\loadhi \BIN\MSCDEX.EXE /D:MSCD001 /D:MSCD002 /M:20
Of course, the setting for the drives are up to you and your system, just make
sure each card is set independently of each other (no conflicts).
Hope it helps.
John
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From: CHRIS MOORE Number: 3956
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/24/93 11:18a
Subj: HEALTH & SAFETY CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Rowan
RE> Snail Mail address is coming via netmail....
Got it. I'm putting a package in the mail today, including CDSPEED.ZIP,
as well as text information and diskette-based demos of our CD-ROMs.
RE> I'll advise David More (SYSOP) that I'll have some info on Health &
RE> Safety CD-ROMs for him shortly? <g>
Based on our experience sending CD-ROMs to Australia, (we have about 140
subscribers there, receiving about 500 discs every three months) it
generally takes about a week or two for a package to get from here to
there. That's not too bad, considering it can take that long to mail
something across town. And believe it or not, they usually arrive intact!
RE> Are they available to be set up on the BBS for browsing, etc??
RE> He'll probably ask!
The demos, certainly. I would encourage him to do so. The CD-ROMs
themselves, unfortunately not. There are licensing restrictions that only
allow dial-in access to people affiliated with the subscribing
organization (e.g. staff and students at a university, various locations
within a company etc.).
RE> Cheers & Beers!
We're starting to get out of the beer season and heading toward irish
coffee season. The trees are starting to change (i.e. the colour of the
leaves). We had our first "frost warning" last night. It was 2
degrees C when I got up this morning :( . About 17 and sunny now though.
I haven't hauled out the winter clothes yet, but unfortunately, it won't
be long!
Please write if you'd like any more information about any of the CD-ROMs.
Regards
Chris
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From: ED DUCHEK Number: 3957
To: ALL Date: 09/25/93 2:46p
Subj: USED CD's for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have the following used cd's for sale:
Software toolworks illustrated encyclopedia for $25
The bible library for $20
OS/2 archive for $18
CD Powerbox for $25
All prices do not include P&H
Trades for other CD's will be consitered.
Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 3958
To: ROBERT POWELL Date: 09/25/93 3:39p
Subj: Re: OS/2 CD-ROM SUPPORT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LR> True. When I say "stay", I mean of course, "stay away from
LR> non-SCSI devices". It is *VERY* expensive to dump what one already
LR> has and upgrade to SCSI. Buying SCSI initially is not as large a
LR> hit, especially when one does not have to buy an additional hard
LR> drive controller.
LR> RF> It is a given, though - you want to use a CD-ROM drive under
LR> RF> OS/2, go SCSI if at all possible.
LR> It has many benefits, even under DOS, and if one upgrades to
LR> OS/2, the path is all that much smoother. In addition, there are
LR> many devices that really only come in SCSI, like full page scanners.
LR> One of the nicest things is that potential conflicts between tape
LR> backups, CD-ROM drives, hard drives, scanners, and other devices are
LR> essentially eliminated.
RP> Perhaps I am missing something here. Data transfer under any system is
RP> limited to the maximum amount of data a drive platter can pass under a
RP> head per given amount of time. In other words even though SCSI
You are thinking serially. Think in parallel. While one hard drive is
physically executing a seek, another can be receiving instructions to do a
seek, and another can be cued up to dump data on the SCSI bus. Meanwhile, the
CD-ROM can be also finding a specific sector and loading it into its on board
buffer, while a second CD-ROM is ejecting its cartridge. In addition, the
higher the transfer rate of the bus, the greater the throughput no matter HOW
slow the hardware device. It is true that the effect can be small, especially
under a purely serial OS like DOS, but it is still real.
RP> Then this is the maximum speed the controller can supply CPU provided
RP> there is no controller overhead (It never rains when I go boating
RP> either).
The CPU shouldn't be involved, at all (except as a router/controller).
That is why we use busmastering SCSI controllers.
RP> the same performance depending soley on the physical characteristics of
RP> hard drive.
Nope.
RP> It would seem this performance is hardware based and is
RP> independent of operating system, be it windows/dos, OSII, Unix or
RP> windows NT.
Definitely nope. I can run ten processes under OS/2, each at the same
speed that DOS can run 1 on this machine.
RP> I have seen grown intellectual men brought down to the level of chimps
RP> trying to make an original SCSI device work with a SCSI2 device. And
Then one of the devices was not a standard device. I have a very nice
mix and match of SCSI devices, both SCSI-1 and SCSI-2.
RP> I have seen comercial scanners based on proprietary IDE, Serial (really
RP> slow) and parrallel interfaces.
I don't doubt it, but by far most are SCSI.
RP> But what really confuses me is what does all this have to do with CDROMs
RP> other than some, not all are based on SCSI Interfaces.
The question was, "Why get a SCSI CD-ROM?"
Les
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From: RUSSELL BOYCE Number: 3959
To: CORKY CORCORAN Date: 09/25/93 11:34a
Subj: Mitsumi drive. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> I am having a problem with my Mitsumi CRMC drive and Jones
> in the Fast Lane.
> Whenever I reach a certain point in the game, my drive
> sits with the busy
> lgith blinking and doesn't do anything. Sierra said it
> was because their DMA
> driver was incompatible with ONLY Mitsumi drives. Is
> there some way to
> rectify this problem? Also, is there a way to hook my
Try re-installing the drive and don't use the DMA selection.I have found that
to solve several problems including it uses less memory for the drivers.
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 3960
To: JON BORTHWICK Date: 09/23/93 11:07a
Subj: Shareware cd Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JB>i would like to know where you got your shareware cd and how much it c
JB> please respond asap
Hi Jon. If you will pass your address to me, I will send you a catalog
that will prove that the ads in Computer Shopper cannot compete with us.
Computer Works Jim...
CD-Rom Sales!
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 3961
To: JERRY JOSEPH Date: 09/23/93 11:09a
Subj: Shareware cd Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JJ> A place called Free Spirit Software for $25. Page 786 of this month
JJ>(October's) Computer Shopper.
Hi Jerry. If you will pass your address to me, I will send you a catalog
that will prove that the ads in Computer Shopper cannot compete with us.
Computer Works Jim...
CD-Rom Sales!
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 3962
To: ALL Date: 09/23/93 7:24p
Subj: Lowest CD-Rom Prices Yet! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Compare our prices to anyone and you will see that we are a serious
competitor in the CD-Rom market. We now sell over 600 titles in many
different categories for the largest selection available. If you see a
lower price on any non-closeout title, bring it to us and we will beat
it! Download CATALOG1.ZIP for the list sorted by titles or CATALOG2.ZIP
for the list sorted by category.
Computer Works Jim...
CD-Rom Sales!
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card & COD Orders 24 Hours/Day
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From: SCOTT CONDER Number: 3963
To: KEVIN MARTIN Date: 09/24/93 9:23p
Subj: PANASONIC CD NO MORE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Kevin & Chris,
Excuse my butting in, but I called 800-742-8086 almost 2 weeks ago and a guy
named David told me the same thing, that Panasonic no longer makes CD ROM
drives. They still market Magneto Optical and phase change optical drives, but
no more CDROM. Too bad, I was thinking of buying one, but not if they're out
of the market. Service problems down the road are something I don't need. If
anyone finds out that this info is wrong, let me know.
Scott
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From: BRIAN NASH Number: 3964
To: ALL Date: 09/25/93 1:08a
Subj: Cd-rom makers Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm a Shareware author and would like to find out the addresses for any
Shareware CD-ROM makers, along with the name of their previous releases, so
that I can send them copies of my programs. If you're a cd-rom publisher,
please send me your company name, address, and a few names of your biggest
CD's. Thanks.
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From: BRIAN NASH Number: 3965
To: MARCIAL MORENO Date: 09/25/93 6:06p
Subj: Dealers wanted! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
For what?
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From: CHRIS DONNEGAN Number: 3966
To: KEVIN MARTIN Date: 09/24/93 11:16p
Subj: PANASONIC CD NO MORE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
KM> CD> Well, it seems he was right. I called Panasonic HQ today and, aft
KM> CD> merry round of phone hopping (it was like calling the Pentagon, i
KM> CD> you've ever done that), was told that PANASONIC NO LONGER
KM> CD> MANUFACTURES CD-ROM DRIVES!! I was stunned.
KM>
KM> CD> Has anyone else heard this?
KM>
KM>No. Which number/company did you call? Matsushita Electric company i
KM>parent company, and it is a division of Matsushita that manufactures t
KM>Roms.
Oh, I know who they are OK. The reason I found out they were no longer in
the business was due to my calling the Panasonic USA headquarters in New
Jersey to request literature. Today I confirmed what I was told on
Tuesday: Matsushita will no longer manufacture CD-ROM drives for sale
under the Panasonic brand name. They will only be manufacturing drives
under OEM contract for *other* companies. The Panasonic CD-ROM brand is
dead. Remaining units in the market are leftovers or are filtering in from
Singapore.
KM>If you called the vibrator division (or whatever) you might hav
KM>a hold of someone that doesn't know what's going on.
<G> I wondered what that buzzing sound in the background was! All of the
people I spoke to were sure: no more CD-ROM. My literature arrived today.
No CD-ROM's, only flopticals...
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From: DUHAMEL MIRANDA Number: 3967
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/24/93 12:25a
Subj: Cd Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello;
I would like to have a CD catalog, since I would like to purchase several to
run in my BBS. Please recomend some titles..
Ship To;
Duhamel Miranda
10th. St. Blq. E-4
Urb. Altagracia
Toa Baja, Puerto Rico 00949
Regards;
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From: BOB HUNZEKER Number: 3968
To: BRIAN RYCHLICKI Date: 09/24/93 12:26a
Subj: Panasonic cd562-b / sbpro Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>I just spent about three hours with a dealer trying to install a
>CD562B onto my system which is a 386DX40, coProcessor, 8 Meg of Ram,
>and a Sound Blaster Pro. No luck reading disks.
Dont know if i can help, but i have had similar problems with a 562-b and
a SB16ASP, it refuses to see the CD-ROM in DOS and OS/2. the 562 will work
with a pro/2 when i use the sbcd.sys driver from CL, just take out the /t:2
and add /a:0 to the device driver. CL Tech support couls not answer me as
to why it works with the pro/2 and not the 16ASP and they didn't care.
The Tech said they do not support Panasonic drives on SB cards at all only
the repackaged Panasonics that they sell, they were very rude and offered
no help whatsover, didn't even ask about my system or the settings on my
16ASP card, BE WARNED Creative Labs does not care about supporting their
users unless you pay the extra bucks to buy the 563 drive from them. After
4 SB cards this will be my last!
Sorry to be so negative, but thats the way CL was on the phone.
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From: DAVID CHILDRESS Number: 3969
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/22/93 9:22a
Subj: CD-ROM questions Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-18-93 Rowan Evans wrote to David Childress...
RE> The only people who've stopped learning are *DEAD*! <g> Let me know
RE> what
RE> CD-ROM drive, etc you settle on....
RE>
RE> DC> BTW, what part of Australia are you from?
RE>
RE> Sunny Sydney....... I take it from your lagline that you're in
RE> California?
Hi Rowan!
Nope, I'm in Florida. Fort Myers to be exact. (on the West coast)
We get a lot of sun ourselves. :-) Australia looks like a wonderful
place! I hope to visit someday <sigh> I sure appreciate your help
on the CD-ROM. My next thing on the wish list is a high speed modem.
I still hope to get a CD system around December. Hope, hope, hope
:-D
TTYL
-=Dave=-
... OFFLINE 1.50 "Internet: david.childress@beachboard.com"
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From: DEBBIE MARANTZ Number: 3970
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/25/93 12:56a
Subj: Drivers Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE> Well, the picture I saw of am OMNI showed it with an 8-bit paddle card
similar to that supplied with my CR562B. I'll have to try and source a
kit so I can check to see what drivers it uses!
DM> Mention that a "kit" includes a paddle card to Creative and they will
then swear up and down and all around that here on this side of the pond
all their CD Roms are packaged to be only used with the SB's, and there are
no paddle cards to be found. Also, the earlier drivers on the BBS made
reference to the 562b/563, but the later updates now only mention the 563s.
So I guess the marketing department has a little say in what goes on. Also,
I have just been playing with the updated SB16 drivers which now allow dos
apps to share the sound resources with windows, but I have to say that the
update is more that a wee bit of a pain to install (files copy to dir type)
and the doc, well, sparse is the word that comes to mind. And after that is
all said and done then one can look forward to removing and re-installing
the drivers back into windows, which is just so much fun, but one must give
credit where credit is due, and they do seem to do the job quite well,
touch wood. So now if I want to really see how stable my computer is, I can
just load the dos shell, jump to windows, then select T7G and just wait and
see just how much the system will moan and groan (jest teasing, after all
too much moaning and groaning can lead to lots of coffee and grey hairs).
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From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 3971
To: ALL Date: 09/24/93 11:42p
Subj: free cream of the crop cd! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello !
I'm offering a free Cream of the Crop cd with the purchase of a
Shareware Studio II and Up All Night cd. I am overstocked in
these disc and am selling them out for $25 each. In other words
get ALL three disc for $50. !!! But wait! That's not all. I
will pay the shipping and c.o.d. charges too! Call 205-824-2552
before supplies run out.
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From: MARK SAINT Number: 3972
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/19/93 1:12a
Subj: DISCOUNT CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NB> SHORELINE CD-ROM'S DISCOUT PRICES
> FOR A COMPLETE CATALOG, LEAVE
> E-mail ADDRESS OR POSTAL
> ADDRESS!!!!
Leaving address for a catalog....
E-Mail : Mark Saint 1/3607:5
Mailing : PO Box 1335
Cullman, AL 35056-1335
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From: MARK SAINT Number: 3973
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/19/93 1:16a
Subj: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AS>***************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION ****************
AS>If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave your
>mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
Here you are :
Mark Saint
PO Box 1335
Cullman, AL 35056-1335
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From: KEN BAILEY Number: 3974
To: ALEJANDRO RODRIGUEZ HEREDERO Date: 09/21/93 4:55a
Subj: Sound Blaster wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* In a message originally to Steve Daggett, Alejandro Rodriguez Heredero said:
> > Wanted - sound Blaster or SB Pro. Thanks!
> Live or Alive. Why not a GUS card?.
> Best regards. Alex.
> ---
> * Origin: (2:341/12.5)
> 3607/10
Hey Buddy, I have a regular Sound Blaster for sale. Like new, selling because
not cd-rom compatible.... Phone 205-766-6431 (Alabama) for more info. Or
leave message here....
.
.
. Later,
. Ken
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From: ROBERT POWELL Number: 3975
To: TOM GUELKER Date: 09/24/93 2:59a
Subj: PANASONIC CR562B Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TG>BF> >Now let say you purchase 10 disks at an average cost of 40
TG>BF> >dollars each an then buy 10 caddies at a cost of 7.50 each. You
TG>BF> >would have had to trash disks or 20 percent of your programs
TG>BF> >before buying the caddies will save anything above the cost of
TG>their purchase.
TG>That's not true, Brice. The tray is not permanently attached to the
TG>CD. You can take the CD out of the tray (as you know) so your 2 discs
TG>or 20% theory is not relevant. Are you paying $7.50 for caddies?
TG>That's almost double the going $4.50 rate for quantities of 5 or
TG>more.
TG>I've got two small children that use my computer. The piece of mind I
TG>get with a caddy is worth the extra minimal cost. Try replacing some
TG>of the older CD's no longer available.
Tom, that quote was actually from me. Those prices reflected what I
could do locally. By mail, the cost of both caddies and disks are less
so a 15 to 20% figure probably fits most home users unless you mail
order your caddies and locally purchase your disks.
The main gist of the original message was that caddies are not a feature
that all users require. In your case, I agree 100% that with small
children using the computer caddies become a necessity. In my case as I
am the only one who uses my computer and with no other factors invovled
which would increase the likelyhood of damaging a CD, they are an
unnecessary expense. Unlike a lot of people I can see both sides of the
coin.
Bob
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From: JEFF CHARLESON Number: 3976
To: ALL Date: 09/25/93 11:02p
Subj: CD-ROM Needed! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
We need a CD-ROM badly for business use! It has to be at lest 220ms and is
Double-Speed. Anyone know where to get one for cheap, or is willing to sell
one? Please reply... time is running out!!!!
azor Tooth
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 3977
To: DUHAMEL MIRANDA Date: 09/26/93 4:47p
Subj: Cd Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DM=>Hello;
DM=>I would like to have a CD catalog, since I would like to purchase several t
DM=>run in my BBS. Please recomend some titles..
On it's way!
Thank you for your interest
Adrian Salas
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 3978
To: DAN POLIVY Date: 09/26/93 5:05p
Subj: Night owl 9 cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DP=>Does anyone have Night Owl 9 CDROM for sale? I am looking for a copy.
DP=>DAn
Got some, 32.00 +s/h. Shipped Priority mail.
SEND Check/Money Order Payable to: Adrian Salas
Please include $5.00 shipping up to 3 CDs Add .50 for each addition.
CA Residents add 7.75% Sales tax.
S.D. ROM CONNECTION 2434 East 32nd Street,
National City, CA 91950-7710
Questions/Orders 619-479-8688 10:am to 7:pm.
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 3979
To: JULIUS FAJARDO Date: 09/25/93 7:25p
Subj: CD-ROM GAMES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Hi its Julius from Australia,
-> Couldn't help but overhear(read) on Phantasmorgia
-> Well just wondering, what type of game is it?. Does it support SVGA
-> 400 x 256 colors or better ) What story is behind it etc.
-> Any info would be much appreciated.
-> Also wondering if you know of any of these games for CD as we normal
-> wait a few months before games are released here.
-> Iron Helix, Spaceship Warlock, Screaming Metal, Microsom, Dracula, R
-> Assault, Return to Zork, or any other hot new titles.
-> Hope to here from ya,
->
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Well Julius, Phantasmorgia is supposed to be a SIerra CD only game, I
saw a small preview of it in the SIerra InterAction magazine but do not
know what its about, when I figure out what its about I will tell you,
well a good CD title to add to your list of hot titles would be The 7Th
Guest, you gotta see and play this game, its in SVGA graphics and its an
intense puzzle solving game, well C-ya and TTYL.
Ashwin
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 3980
To: PAUL SWIDER Date: 09/25/93 7:26p
Subj: CD's in the background Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> On 09-17-93 Ashwin Bihari wrote to Paul Swider...
->
-> Ashwin, Thank you for your information. I was responding to a msg Ed
-> Tushar sent (see below). Possibly you sent this reply to him to, I m
-> have missed it.
->
-> AB> -> On 09-12-93 Edward Tushar wrote to All...
-> AB> ->
-> AB> -> ET> Is there a way (or program) that will allow you to liste
-> AB> -> ET> to CD's while doing other work on the computer? Just
-> AB> -> ET> wondering. And no, I don't do WINDOWS!<G>
-> AB> ->
-> AB>
->
-> I don't have a Mitsumi drive but will try and store that info for
-> future reference. Thanks again for offering your help. >Paul<
->
->
-> ... OFFLINE 1.50 "All true wisdom is found in taglines."
->
-> --- Maximus/2 2.01wb
-> * Origin: The Choice BBS, Las Vegas, NV 702-253-6527 HST DS 16.8k (1
No problem Paul, well C-ya and TTYL.
Ashwin
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 3981
To: PAUL SWIDER Date: 09/25/93 7:28p
Subj: Sb Pro Or Sb 16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> On 09-17-93 Ashwin Bihari wrote to All...
->
-> AB> Hey all I am in the process of buying a SB PRO or SB 16 to repla
-> AB> SB
-> AB> 2.0 since I have a CD-ROM and the regular SB cannot handle the C
-> AB> output, I just wanna know which of these card would be a good ch
-> AB> and
-> AB> worth my money, since I wanna use the Soundcard for the CD-ROM g
-> AB> have and Audio CD's. also what about PAS 16, please tell me abou
-> AB> these
-> AB> card and good and bad<grin> things about these cards. TTYL.
-> AB> Ashwin
->
-> Ashwin, I have 2 systems at my house. One system has the SB16 and the
-> has the PAS16. I find that I can play more programs that access sound
-> on the system with the SB16 because it is completely SoundBlaster com
-> The PAS16 is SoundBlaster compatible only not SBPRO compatible. The g
-> is that newer games, multimedia, etc. are now written for PAS16 also,
-> problem is almost gone. Personally, I like the sound quality of the P
-> more than the SB16. The PAS16 has the SCSI interface built in which g
-> possiblities for more drives to be used. If I had to do it again, I'd
-> with the PAS16. I'm sure you'll get other opinions <g>. >Paul<
->
->
->
->
-> ... OFFLINE 1.50 "Do not adjust your mind. The fault lies with reali
->
-> --- Maximus/2 2.01wb
-> * Origin: The Choice BBS, Las Vegas, NV 702-253-6527 HST DS 16.8k (1
Well thanx Paul, hey what is the price difference between Sb16 and
PAS16, and I also heard that a lot of old software do not work well the
PAS cards, well C-ya and TTYL.
Ashwin
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From: DAN MILLER Number: 3982
To: EDWARD ZDROK Date: 09/25/93 5:50p
Subj: CD ROM drives for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
->1:107/925
EZ>I have 2 Toshiba external 600ms CD ROM drives for sale. Includes
>controller cards and cables.
>Asking $175 a piece or $325 for both (+ S/H)
>If interested, please leave voice message at (908) 272-3562.
>Thanks
>--- FidoPCB v1.4 beta-'e'
> * Origin: The Arena BBS - Kenilworth, NJ - (908)272-6890 (1:107/925)
Ed, I don't think this is a good deal. You can get a 350ms cd-drive
for about the same price. My suggestion to you is donate it to a worthy
cause so you can get you monies worth!! Don't try to rip off the
public....Prices are always coming down...
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■ QMPro 1.50 99-9999 ■ Prices are getting lower if people wait!!!
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From: GLENN LOFTUS Number: 3983
To: STEPHEN ZAPPARDO Date: 09/25/93 9:11p
Subj: Re: New mitsumi 2x speed Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Stephen Zappardo wrote to All about New mitsumi 2x speed:
SZ> Does anyone have the price for the new Mitsumi double speed CD
SZ> player? It has a transfer rate of 300k and access of 280. This is the
SZ> new CD player that Gateway 2000 is selling with their systems.
I don't know what the price is to try to buy one separately, but I got a new
Gateway 2000 system with this CDROM installed this week. Gateway 2000 would
delete the CDROM from the system for $155.
I was considering going with a SCSI interface and the Toshiba 3401, but if
that was all they would give back, I decided to keep it. Performance seems
decent.
It has a proprietary card, so the SB16ASP is just being used for mixing the
sound. It seems to run fine with Video for Windows, etc.
The 7th Guest's setup program rated it at 300K/second (100% of optimal), but
said that my Diamond Viper VLB was only 50% of optimal for video performance.
The sound from T7G is great, and things are noticably faster than with the
MediaVision 150K/second package on a 386/40, but I do notice that the video
does something weird:
About once every second, the video "jumps"--it seems to skip a frame or two.
Maybe this is just how T7G keeps the video and sound in sync, but I was hoping
that with a 486DX2/66, a double-spin drive, and the Diamond Viper video, that
things would be
"fast enough." Apparently, Virgin had an even higher-performance system in
mind when they wrote T7G.
I've also tried MantisCD, and the animations on it are excellent. With the
150K/s system, they were extremely jerky, making the game unusable, but on my
new machine, they are quite smooth. This is probably more a function of CPU
power than CDROM speed.
Gateway 2000 is including the double-spin Mitsumi drive with all of their
4DX2-66V systems, but the lesser systems have the single-spin drive, and they
aren't yet selling the double-spin unit as an add-on, though they expect to
when the supply increases.
--Glenn...
... ... moved into a dark place. You are likely to be eaten by a Grue.
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From: SCOTT WHARY Number: 3984
To: WALTER CHISENSKI Date: 09/25/93 8:45p
Subj: CD-ROM CADDYS/PROGRAMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On Sep 23 1993 at 22:12, Walter Chisenski of 1:270/211 wrote:
WC> I have only had my computer system/CD-ROM for a month
WC> or so, I would like to ask a couple of questions and I hope
WC> some people will have some answers... First-Where is the
WC> best place to get CD CADDYS from? Here at the local
WC> computer stores ie:Software Etc., Egghead Software. they
WC> seem to run 10.99 to 12.99 each! I've heard you can get
WC> them for 5 to 7.00 each.? Second-Will the programs like
WC> Lightning CD and others that say they speed up your CD-ROM
WC> drive...(software/games/etc.) They say the program will
WC> use a bigger portion of your hard drive to store informaton
WC> on or use more of your RAM or something.? If anyone has
WC> any info on these questions, PLEASE let me know...
WC> Thx- W a l t e r C h i s
WC> e n s k i
I got 10 cd caddys fro Better Business Sysyems, Van nuys, CA 91409...
Phone (818--376-1558..
10 caddys were $39.90 + 8.80 freight...that's $3.99 each..
I got the number from the coumputer shopper, ther its an 800 no.
Dont' pay to much..
--- msgedsq 2.2b
* Origin: Mdtn_BBS Point #30 717.948.0212 (1:270/211.30)
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From: BUTCH SANDERSON Number: 3985
To: ALL Date: 09/26/93 4:01p
Subj: I buy used CDROM Program Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Makes no difference HOW you CONTACT me....Just Contact me FIRST if you
are selling used CD-ROM programs. Will give you a fair price!
CD-ROM's
878 WALKER STREET
NEW ORLEANS, LA 70124
1-504-283-2087 VOICE
1-504-282-1933 DATA
1-504-282-1933 FAX (if notified)
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From: JOHN BENJAMIN Number: 3986
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/25/93 7:03a
Subj: Re: CD carousels Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
===========================================================================
Packet: COZYK
Date: 09-23-93 (01:22) Number: 104
From: BORIS OSADCIW Refer#: NONE
To: JOHN BENJAMIN Recvd: NO
Subj: Re: CD carousels Conf: (35) CDROM
BO>The Pioneer DMR600 or DMR604X will work very nicely for you. We currently
>have both units in stock and thier priced at $799 and $1199. respectively.
BO>If you need further assistance, please feel free to call us at 216-225-3263
>anytime 7 days a week and we'll be glad to assist you further.
BO>Hope this helps...
BO>Boris Osadciw
Boris,
Thanks for this info.
John Benjamin
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 3987
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/25/93 7:22a
Subj: Re: CADDY-O-RAMA Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Brice Fleckenstein to Bob Jackson <=-
>PLEASE join me in putting the "caddy wars" to rest!
BF> I suppose my copy of this is incomming?
Yeah, but in retrospect that was stupid of me. Bob Hall is the
moderator, not me. It's up to him to say when enough is enough.
I agree with your point that it's primarily a matter of personal choice,
NOT a technical issue. That being the case, and this being an echo
primarily for technical discussions (I think), it just seemed it was
getting more bandwidth than it deserved. <EOT>
... Renegade Tagline!! We're tired of Being Kidnapped!!! REBEL!!!!!
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 3988
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/25/93 7:37a
Subj: Re: NEW SHAREWARE CD 4-PAK Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
MS> ! Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR
MS> (1:3407/101)
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 3989
To: DEBBIE MARANTZ Date: 09/25/93 7:52a
Subj: Re: T7g Help Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Debbie Marantz to Paul Swider <=-
DM> I agree, it does seem that most of the windows accelerator cards on
DM> the market give impressive win bench marks but really fall short when
DM> used on a dos applications (especially the S3s). So, for now I am
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is NOT entirely accurate! Call Steve Gibson's BBS (714) 362-8848
and download his video benchmark results. You'll find that the S3 '805
blew away everybody in DOS text handling. I use one for Windows and DOS
both and have no complaints. <EOT>
... SENILE.COM found . . . Out Of Memory . . .
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From: HUGO SHENG Number: 3990
To: ALL Date: 09/26/93 1:05p
Subj: Mitsumi CD-Rom driver needed Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone have a Mitsumi CD-Rom driver program that could perhaps provide me
with a copy? I would appreciate it much.
Thanks
Hugo
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From: JOSEPH THOMAS Number: 3991
To: ROSS FOCKE Date: 09/27/93 9:14a
Subj: Re: New mitsumi 2x speed Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Mitsumi always play music, just hookup your earphones or
a 10.00$ speakers (sony) and just play and do whatever else
you want to run. take care, now sound card needed for music. Tnx.
--- Maximus 2.01wb
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From: BUTCH SANDERSON Number: 3992
To: HUGO SHENG Date: 09/27/93 2:21p
Subj: Mitsumi CD-Rom driver ne Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
HS>Does anyone have a Mitsumi CD-Rom driver program that could
HS>perhaps provide me with a copy? I would appreciate it
HS>much.
HS>Thanks
HS>Hugo
Sure thing Hugo. You can call me and get the driver or, If I were you I
would look around your area on one of the bigger boards for a file
called MITSUMI.ZIP ....I have them all here though. Voice me at
504-283-2087.
* SLMR 2.1 * I'm in shape ... round's a shape isn't it?
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From: JOHN ROMERO Number: 3993
To: CHRISTIAN BUHL Date: 09/26/93 10:27p
Subj: The 7th Guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have the 7th Guest for sale at $33 including shipping. The game is
like new. Everything included. Let me know if interested. Thanks.
John
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From: MATT VOSE Number: 3994
To: ALL Date: 09/26/93 8:40a
Subj: CDROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Looking for a CD-ROM that will work with a 386 CPU, 2 MEG ram, DOS 6.0,
Windows. Not looking to spend a fortune. Will pay UPS charges. Guarantee
needed.
-Matt-
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From: PHILIP MARTELLI Number: 3995
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/25/93 4:48p
Subj: Re: PANASONIC CDROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> The ALL NEW Panosonic 562 is here and ready for delievery!!
> 340ms access time / 300kps transfer rate
Is it true that the MPC-2 standard stipulates a minimum of 320mS seek time??
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From: PHILIP MARTELLI Number: 3996
To: TYRONE THOMASON Date: 09/25/93 4:49p
Subj: Re: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>DW>Anyway, don't you know
>DW>that naughty pictures will make you a sicko pervert, kill everyone,
>DW>turn to a life of crime, and take large amounts of illegal drugs???
The evidence suggests that people on large amounts of illegal drugs can still
use BBSs!
I've nothing against adult material (at all!) and an ADULT_CD area IS called
for, but I prefer this area to be technical... you guys (USA) seem to have
all the answers - I like to be able to find them quickly!
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From: SHAWN FULLER Number: 3997
To: JESSE SCHMELZER Date: 09/26/93 9:39a
Subj: Re: DMR600 & 604X Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JS> Yes i run the pioneer 604x on my A3000T Will be adding another soon.
JS> I run
JS> C-net BBS
Good to hear it goes OK on the A3000. How does the BBS know what disk to
use in the SCSI.Device. What Software do you use to operate the CD-ROM is
it ASIM?
So I guess your BBS would be a popular one with all that MB/GB's online :-)
Thanks for the info.
Cheers ... Shawn
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From: SHAWN FULLER Number: 3998
To: JESSE SCHMELZER Date: 09/26/93 9:46a
Subj: Re: DMR600 & 604X Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JS> Yes i run the pioneer 604x on my A3000T Will be adding another soon.
JS> I run
JS> C-net BBS
One more question. Is your BBS multi-Lined? If so do you have any
problems about a user on line 1 downloading a file on cd 1 and a user on
line 2 downloading a file on CD 3.
Does the BBS software handle that part or what happens??
I forsee a CD drive changeing back and forwards trying to read data from
the CD's
Cheers ... Shawn
*FSED91m*
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From: NEIL DANIELL Number: 3999
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/23/93 7:29p
Subj: FOR SALE-CD ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NB>CDROMS FOR SALE:
NB>MONSTER DISC (2 DISCS) 1.3 gigs of non-duplicated files (1993) $36.23
NB>LOOM $15.00
NB>SUPER SHAREWARE w SUPER BBS $31.00
NB>STORM I,II,III $22.50 (each)
NB>WINWARE III $15.50
NB>KODAK PHOTO CD (MPC) $15.50
NB>WING COMMANDER AND ULTIMA IV $15.50
NB>I have other discs for sale also. If you leave me your name
NB>and mailing address I can send you a list.
NB>Neil Bergman
NB>Phone (310) 652-2858
NB>Fax (310) 652-2608
NB> * RM 1.0 * Eval Day 19 * RoboMail -- The next generation QWK compatible re
NB>--- GOMail v1.2 [DEMO] 09-18-93
NB> * Origin: Compu-Net * 310-822-0038 * SoCal's Largest (1:102/523)
I would be interested in some of the CDs you listed if they are still
are available. My address is 40 Somes Crescent, Newlands, Wellington.
Thanks.
* SLMR 2.1a * Backup not found: (A)bort (R)etry (P)anic
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From: EDWARD BLACK Number: 4000
To: DAVID BENFELL Date: 09/22/93 7:41a
Subj: CD PRE-ORDERS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DB}Hi Edward. I will send you out a CD-ROM price list as I can now supply
}CD's just as cheap in most cases as importing them yourselves.
Tks David. Gradually getting to grips with all these conferences. Just
out of curiosity, was my message in the right place and did you notice
it???
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From: PAUL COLLIER Number: 4001
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/24/93 11:56p
Subj: Re: ECHO RULES Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
-=> Quoting Bob Hall to Paul Collier <=-
PC> Yeh, sounds good to me. The adverts are the only reason I read this echo.
BH> Will keep them up for you....
Thanx. 8-)
BFN......Paul
... Are those cookies made with real Girl Scouts?
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 4002
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/26/93 2:25a
Subj: CD-ROM QUESTIONS Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
BH>Wish I was there this morning. Eating a "bikki" with a tad of Vegami
BH>a Cherry Ripe, a hunk of Violet Crumble, a taste of Billy Tea, and
BH>perhaps toward the end of the day, a cold 4F. If my hands got dirty,
BH>could use that wonderful Sard soap to wash my hands. AHHHHHhhhhhh fo
BH>the land of enchantment.....
Even better now, we won the right to stage the 2000 Olympics.
You should have seen the Party down at the harbour on the night of the
Olympic announcement, 100,000 people there till dawn.
The whole city is totally stoked.
BH>Guilty of dreaming for only a moment, and not moderating!
Forgiven in this case.
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From: DEAN MACKIN Number: 4003
To: TARQUINN WATSON Date: 09/26/93 2:49p
Subj: Pioneer 6 pack Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TW>I run multiaple 6 disks changers in a TBBS enviroment and have not
TW>suffered any of the problems you describe :). Even with 5 people
TW>downloading. I do have a seperate sever for the DRMs, and it copies the
TW>file to a staging directry on a ultra fast scsi hard drive. I have
TW>heard that if I connected the drms directly to the BBS machines it would
TW>have been very slow and problems would occur. So all I suggest is that
TW>you experiment with a dedicated computer cd_sever.
Great! You have told me just what I wanted to hear. I guess you are using
604's??? The cost $3500 over here unfortunately *8-( so just one for now. As
for the server, I was going to do that but up until you confirmed it, it was
just an idea. Thanks very much for your help. What networking software are you
using?
╔══════════════════╗
║Regards -= Dino =-║
╚══════════════════╝
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 4004
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/26/93 10:00a
Subj: Pro Audio Studio 16Xl Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE> I'm not tired of the sounds out of the SB 16 ASP yet!
I wasn't either, when I had my SB pro. I was quite happy with FM. Then I
heard the wavetable soundtracks to a few games that I had already
played. It just blew me away, and I said "I want that!", so I got a GUS.
One good thing about FM is that it offers custom sounds. Most wavetables
don't because the patches are stored in ROM. The GUS however, because it
stores patches on the HD, and caches them into the RAM on the card, can
use custom wavetable patches. I sampled a sneeze the other day, and then
Sequenced a song with it...
RE> The issue is I don't particularly want to use two slots, one for
RE>CD-ROM
RE> control and the other for sound!
How many have you got? How many do you need? I have seen some
motherboards with 6 slots, here it *may* be an issue. Mine has 8, and
most of the newer VLB jobs have 8ISA + 2VLB slots. What on earth are you
gona put in 10 slots?
Also, how many Drives can you daisy chain off the SB? 3 isn't it?
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From: TONY STOTT Number: 4005
To: WAYNE MAJORS Date: 09/26/93 7:34p
Subj: Caddy Bullsh*t Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-23-93, in a colourful display of the English language, Wayne Majors
said to Tony Stott:-
WM>In a msg on <Sep 21 07:58>, Tony Stott writes to Leslie Rhorer:
WM>
WM>
WM> TS> Here's an idea, let's discuss Arabs vs. Jews, or Clinton vs.
WM> TS> Bush, or Windows vs. OS/2 or ANYTHING else which involves
WM> TS> less emotion than the hugely important issue of whether
WM> TS> caddies are good or not... Please, WHO CARES?!!
WM>
WM>This is CDROM echo.. caddies are a CD ROM issue.. I need about 24 of
WM>them for my CD drive... I care.
Wayne, you missed my point; I care about caddies (I have about 30 of 'em
myself), but one or two people here are doing the "King Arthur on the
Crusades" ego trip, whereby anyone who doesn't agree with them is "an
infidel" who should be put to the sword.. My plea was for a big reduction
in the emotion, because it really isn't such a big issue.
I bought a drive which uses caddies because I have a young daughter, other
people are happy without a caddy, that doesn't make either viewpoint
wrong.
Good luck in your search for cheap caddies (PS the Japanese ones are less
likely to play up than the Made in USA ones, in my experience)
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From: TONY STOTT Number: 4006
To: ALL Date: 09/26/93 7:34p
Subj: Home Addresses Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please everyone, think before you post your home address in this echo!
In the last week or so, at least 30 of you have told us all the place
to go to find your computer equipment. I sincerely hope there are no
criminals who read this echo, as you are inviting them into your home.
It is much wiser to use netmail for two reasons...
1. we don't need to know that you want ****'s catalog
2. The crims shouldn't find your address so easily.
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Bund
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From: RUSSELL BOYCE Number: 4007
To: LEE SIMANOFF Date: 09/26/93 11:34a
Subj: Centris for Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Any out there want to buy a Centris 610 in mint condition.
>
> The New 040 Chip
> 8 Megabytes of RAM
> 230 Megabyte Hard Drive
> Internal Apple 300 CD
> Lots of Software
> In Mint Condition
>
> Only $2000
I have a freind who would trade a YAESU 767 100 watt ham radio for it.If
interested I will tell him about it.
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 4008
To: RICK SHOAF Date: 09/25/93 10:50a
Subj: Mitsumi CD-ROM Audio Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Sorry for lets say butting in, TTYL.
Ashwin
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From: BOB JENKINS Number: 4009
To: HOSER Date: 09/26/93 10:38a
Subj: Re: Cd's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* Reply to msg originally in Q:BUY&SELL
-=> Quoting Hoser to Skywalker <=-
Ho> Hey I've got an 1991 Encyclopedia, possibly for sale if the right
Ho> buyer comes along...you interested?
OK, Let's talk. Can you tell me a little about the encyclopedia ie.
name, MPC/MM etc. etc. I'm also looking for Sherlock Holmes Consulting
Detective. Would you know where I could get my hands on this (at a
reasonable price) ?
-Skywalker-
... I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous
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From: BOB JENKINS Number: 4010
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/26/93 10:38a
Subj: Re: Catalogs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* Reply to msg originally in F:CD-ROM
AS> If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please lea
AS> mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
B.Jenkins
RR#6
Smiths Falls
Ont Canada
K7A 4S7
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From: BOB JENKINS Number: 4011
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/26/93 10:38a
Subj: Re: Discount cd-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* Reply to msg originally in F:CD-ROM
-=> Quoting Maurice Villarreal to Neil Bergman <=-
> TOO MANY MORE TO LIST!!!
> FOR A COMPLETE CATALOG, LEAVE
> E-mail ADDRESS OR POSTAL
> ADDRESS!!!!
Please send me a catalogue.
B.Jenkins
RR#6
Smiths Falls
Ontario
Canada
K7A 4S7
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From: BOB JENKINS Number: 4012
To: VINCE SORENSEN Date: 09/26/93 10:38a
Subj: Re: Catalogue Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Vince. I called your company a few weeks back (voice) to
request a catalogue. It has not arrived, probably due to our
wonderful mail service...could you please try again. My address in
below. Thank you.
B.Jenkins
RR#6
Smiths Falls, ONT.
Canada K7A 4S7
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From: DOMINIQUE PERRON Number: 4013
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 09/26/93 3:49p
Subj: Shareware cd Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Jim Lambert wrote in a message to Jon Borthwick:
JL> Hi Jon. If you will pass your address to me, I will send
JL> you a catalog that will prove that the ads in Computer
JL> Shopper cannot compete with us.
Please send one to
Dominique Perron
PB #76012
Aylmer, Que, Canada
J9H 6W6
Thx
Cheers
Dom
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From: ROEL SARCENO Number: 4014
To: ALL Date: 09/26/93 7:06a
Subj: Hackers Chronicles Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi yall,
I'm planning to buy Hackers Chronicles but it's not bbs ready. Does
anybody have FILES.BBS or something for this CD?
Thank's
Roel
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From: BEN QUON Number: 4015
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/26/93 7:37p
Subj: Re: Catalogs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi there, Adrian. I would be interested in receiving a copy of your CD
Catalog.
My mailing address is:
Ben Quon
2675 East 29th Avenue
Vancouver, BC, CAN
V5R 1V3
If anyone else reading this echo has a "FREE CD-ROM Catalog" available, can you
mail it to the above address, please?
Thanks.
Ben.
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From: BEN QUON Number: 4016
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/26/93 7:42p
Subj: Special cd-rom prices Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi there, Neil. I'm interested in receiving a CD Price List from you. Can you
please send one to:
Ben Quon
2675 East 29th Avenue
Vancouver, BC, CAN
V5R 1V3
Thanks.
Ben.
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From: GARY STIMPSON Number: 4017
To: JOHN RACKLEY Date: 09/26/93 3:03a
Subj: Re: amiga cd-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of 21 Sep 93 John Rackley wrote to me:
JR> You mentioned you have an Amiga 600HD and an Amiga 1200. What the heck
JR> is an Amiga 600HD, and how does it differ from an Amiga 600?
The A600 and A600HD are basically the same, except the 600HD comes with a
hard drive already installed. And instead of saying `A600' on the computer
case, mine says `A600HD'. Everything else is the same. :-)
Gary
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 4018
To: PAUL COLLIER Date: 09/27/93 12:07a
Subj: Busty Babes Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Paul!
24 Sep 93, Paul Collier writes to Pat Rickerson:
PC> I wasn't saying it's a bad place to live (no smiley so I take it you're
PC> serious) I'm just saying that $US450 is a little rich for a cd that you
PC> can get here for $A65. Have you seen "The Adult Reference Library" ? Not
a
PC> bad disc, just in case you're hunting around for some good stuff 8-)
Thanks for the info and I did mean to put in Mr. or Mrs. :)
Sorry
Pat
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From: LANGSTON GOLDFINCH Number: 4019
To: ALL Date: 09/26/93 10:52p
Subj: Pro-Phone Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello All!
full set (6 disks) of national residential phone nnumbers, completely indexed.
This is much more detailed that the usual two disk set often advertized.
V 2.2 mid 1993 edition- $99 - will ship to you.
Regards
Langston
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From: PAUL JANEL Number: 4020
To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Date: 09/25/93 8:19p
Subj: Re: super series Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Hi Roberto,
-> This week most of our customers will receive a catalog from us. Our
-> 16 page catalog even is not enough to list everything we got :-) TTYL
Hi.... could you send me your lastest catalog? If so, could you send it to:
Paul Janel
280 curtis RD
Hilton N.Y. 14468
Thanks!
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From: CHRIS DONNEGAN Number: 4021
To: JIM CUMMINGS Date: 09/26/93 10:31p
Subj: GOVT CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JC>If for instance, I wanted to know all the
JC>restricting my Constitutional Rights to keep and bear arms, it would b
JC>possible to search and find all the laws relating to firearms. One co
JC>review them for un-Constitutioality. If you were a lobbist for a par
JC>industry, the search program would find all conflicting laws concerni
JC>industry. Any night you were having trouble sleeping, reading them wo
JC>cerrtainly make you drowsy.
Interesting! And where did you say this was available?
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From: BRUCE WILSON Number: 4022
To: ROSS FOCKE Date: 09/26/93 12:00a
Subj: Re: 7TH GUEST Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RF> Next about The 7th Guest. It is not a comedy but more a mystery
RF> novel.
RF> The story centers around mansion that once belonged to this old
RF> killer.
RF> YOu as the detective have to solve many puzzles to free the souls of
RF> those killed. Exellent graphics and sould track. It is as close to
RF> virtual reality as one can get on a PC. I rate it an A+ for
RF> innovation!
I rated it an A+ until I reahed the end. Getting there was everything.
___
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 4023
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/26/93 12:24p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM WHOLESALERS AND PU Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting NEIL BERGMAN to MARCIAL MORENO <=-
NB> exclusively "L.A. Strippers". I'd like to call you.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Aside from the obvious, what's this CD supposed to be like?
... Tagline fever is the primary symptom of the Blue Wave epidemic!!
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 4024
To: TINA ROCK Date: 09/26/93 12:31p
Subj: RE: OS/2 CD-ROM SUPPORT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Tina Rock to Ron Findling <=-
TR> Beggin your pardon sir, but how can a CD-ROM drive be non-SCSI?
As far as I'm concerned, anything that either (a) has a proprietary
interface - serial or otherwise - or (b) uses some other standard
interface like IDE, for which a line of CD-ROM drives has just been
introduced.
Does this help?
... Backup not found: (A)bort (R)etry (P)anic
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 4025
To: TIM WENAS Date: 09/26/93 12:32p
Subj: Re: Q'S On These New Panason Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Tim Wenas to Rowan Evans <=-
TW> Geez, all these numbers are *really* confusing to me! (and I don't
TW> even have a CD-ROM drive yet!):~>
Just call Boris Osadciw and tell him you want the meanest bad boy CD-ROM
drive out there. He'll fix you up right!
... "He was a man, all and all, I shall not look upon his like again."
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From: BRIAN NASH Number: 4026
To: CHARLES STRUSZ Date: 09/26/93 3:03a
Subj: Extra uploads disks - Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Are you checking programs for copyrights, and permission to put them on CD-ROM,
especially since you're selling them?
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From: PETE CRESSWELL Number: 4027
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/25/93 5:26p
Subj: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AS> ***************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION ****************
AS>
AS> If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave
AS> your mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
BL>
Pete Cresswell
303 Friendship Dr
Paoli PA 19301
At the moment I'm especially interested in MacIntosh and OS2-specific
volumes.
... Food-For-Thought Paoli, PA 215/251-9387
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From: ROBERTO REYES Number: 4028
To: STEVE GREENO Date: 09/24/93 12:30p
Subj: Cd-Rom Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SG >FREE CD-ROM CATALOG
>OVER 200 TITLES
>$10.00 TO $50.00
>SEND TO:
>STEVE GREENO
>1275 E. PRINCE
>TUCSON AZ. 85719
Please add my address for catalogs
ROBERTO REYES
14422 INDUSTRY AVE. SUITE 7-54
LAREDO, TX 78041
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From: MAURICE VILLARREAL Number: 4029
To: ERIC ENGELMANN Date: 09/22/93 12:54a
Subj: Visual Basic Shareware Cd Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
EE>EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the sixth edition of
>its Visual Basic CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a
>dump of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
>searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
>designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
>extensive databases and search programs to help them find
>exactly the products they need FAST. The July 1993 CD-ROM has
>534 products and the best directory database and search program
>in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
>the 120,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
>Fax:301-963-2708, EMail:eengelmann@worldbank.org
>--- GEcho 1.00/beta
I'm interested in that CD.
Please could you send me more information to:
Maurice S. Villarreal
21 East Coma Suite 164
Hidalgo, TX 78557
Thanx
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From: BILL DENNISON Number: 4030
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/25/93 11:24p
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> BO=>**************** C D - R O M D R I V E P R I C E S *********
-> BO=>Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $799.00 Pioneer DMR604X Bare - $1199.
->
-> What does bare mean?
'BARE' means you get the drive itself, but no mounting case, rails,
drivers, cables, software, etc...
Bill
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From: PHIL TREVORROW Number: 4031
To: MARLIN ROWLEY Date: 09/26/93 6:32a
Subj: Amiga cd rom.. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Most people I know that use CDROM are Sysops. I don't know a single person
who bought one just to play games or whatever. I do know one person who is
going to get one for his personal use but it's part of a package deal he's
getting.
As for why people like them, it's obvious why BBS' use them. On the personal
side, you have things like Encyclopedias, dictionaries, road atlas', games,
etc. Plus CD's are cheaper than disks.
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 4032
To: STEWART ROTHMAN Date: 09/26/93 9:29a
Subj: Re: CD TITLES WANTED Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 23 Sep 93 15:05:00, I heard Stewart Rothman shout to All:
SR> I'm interested in several CD titles I saw advertised in CRAZY BOB'S (Div
SR> of ERM) in a mailer newspaper-type flyer. I've called their 800 number,
SR> but get a wierd recording. Anyhow, does anyone selling CD's here have
SR> these titles and at what prices? I want the following:
SR> ****************************************************
Free Spirits Price
====================
SR> Complete Home and Office Legal Guide.......$15.00 $12.00
SR> Guiness Disc of Records.................... 19.00 15.00
SR> USA Wars - Korea........................... 39.00 29.00
SR> Mayo Clinic................................ 39.00 19.00
SR> Street Atlas USA........................... 99.00 89.00
SR> CD Caddies, 10 @$5.50...................... 55.00 50.00
SR> ----------- --------
SR> $266.00 $ 214.00
SR>
SR> I would expect to pay a small charge for shipping, payment will be by
SR> MasterCard. All are for DOS Machine and should be the latest versions.
SR>
How's That for Saving ???
The number is 1-800-638-5757 They do except Visa/Mastercharge
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 4033
To: DAN POLIVY Date: 09/26/93 9:34a
Subj: Re: Night owl 9 cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 25 Sep 93 10:17:00, I heard Dan Polivy shout to All:
DP> Does anyone have Night Owl 9 CDROM for sale? I am looking for a copy.
DP>
DP> DAn
Night Owl 9.0 is $25.00
Call 1-800-638-5757
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 4034
To: ALL Date: 09/26/93 2:17p
Subj: CD's 4-Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Free Spirit Software 1-800-638-5757
====-=-=-=-=-=====-=-=-=-=-======-=-=-=-=-=======-=-=-=-=-=-=======-=-=-=-=-
Aircraft Encyclopedia.............$25.00
America's Premier Shareware.......$19.00
American Phone Book...............$15.00
Busty Babes Vol. 2................$29.00
Compton's Family Choice...........$29.00
Computer Reference Library........$12.00
Desert Storm with Coalion Command.$33.00
Family Doctor.....................$23.00
Gameware Collection...............$19.00
Gif's Galore......................$14.00
Giga Games........................$19.00
GigaByte Gold.....................$29.00
Ham Radio.........................$12.00
Holy Bible & Christian Shareware..$19.00
Jets and Props....................$19.00
Kodak Photo CD Software...........$15.00
Night Owl 8.......................$29.00
Night Owl 9.......................$25.00
Night Owl Graphics Rom............$29.00
North American Fax Book...........$25.00
North American Indians............$25.00
Original Shareware 1992...........$ 9.00
So Much ScreenWare................$15.00
So Much Shareware 3...............$19.00
Southern Beauties.................$43.00
Any Many MANY more Titles...
1-800-638-5757
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From: TOM GUELKER Number: 4035
To: ALL Date: 09/26/93 7:27a
Subj: new CD format?? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I've been hearing about a new CD ROM audio format called Mini-Disc or
something like that. I realize this is for audio (right now, anyway) but
what are the advantages of this? I see the prices for the players are
VERY high compared to standard audio CD players. What effect will this
have on the data CD industry? Adapters to play the smaller CD's in our
larger readers?
Regards,
Tom
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From: TOM GUELKER Number: 4036
To: SIMON MACKAY Date: 09/26/93 7:30a
Subj: MiniDisc News Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SM> Hope this gives you enough info on the MiniDisc state of things,
Simon, so the new Nini Disc will hold less information than the current
5 1/4 CD? What is the advantage of this? Easier to carry in a pocket?
Regards,
Tom
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From: TOM GUELKER Number: 4037
To: RONALD KEENEY Date: 09/26/93 7:33a
Subj: 2 or More Mitsumi's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RK> Has anyone ran 2 or more Mitsumi ROMS on a system. I have one going
RK> now and it has been running great, and instead of purchasing the Pioneer
RK> CD Changer, I would just like to try and add 1 more Mitusmi to the
RK> system, which would be enough.
Ronald, I run 2 internal Mitsumi drives on my Wildcat! 3.60S system
under DOS 5.0 Here is my AUTOEXEC.BAT file:
@ECHO OFF
PROMPT $_$d $t$h$h$h$_$p$g
PATH C:\DOS;C:\WC30
E:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:1 C:\DOS\MSCDEX.EXE /E /D:MSCD001 /D:MSCD002 /M:1
SET DSZLOG=C:\WC30\WCWORK\NODE1\DSZ.LOG
SET DIRCMD=/OGN
SET WCNODEID=1
CD WC30
ECHO @BELL@ REBOOT! REBOOT! REBOOT! REBOOT! REBOOT! REBOOT! REBOOT! >>\WC30\
WILDCAT
And here is my CONFIG.SYS
DEVICE=E:\QEMM\DOSDATA.SYS
DEVICE=E:\QEMM\QEMM386.SYS R:1 RAM
DEVICE=E:\QEMM\DOS-UP.SYS @E:\QEMM\DOS-UP.DAT
DEVICE=E:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\DOS\X00.SYS B,1,57600 E
DOS=HIGH
FILES=40
BUFFERS=40
DEVICE=E:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:1 C:\DOS\ANSI.SYS
DEVICE=E:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\DOS\MTMCDS.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:300 /A:0 /M:1 /I
DEVICE=E:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 /RES=18544 /SQF C:\DOS\MTMCDS.SYS /D:MSCD002 /P:
LASTDRIVE=G
Each Mitsmui requires its own interface card, so make sure you have an
extra slot and IRQ. Any questions, holler back.
Regards,
Tom
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 4038
To: EUGENE FEDOROWICH Date: 09/26/93 8:58p
Subj: Re: Canadian Supplier Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 25 Sep 93 07:41:04, I heard Eugene Fedorowich shout to All:
EF> I am looking for canadian suppliers of CD software products.
EF> I have noticed quite a few American vendors but I think it may be easier to
EF> deal with Canadian suppliers due to customs etc.
EF> Please leave me mail here as to address etc.
Call Roc, at 1-800-865-5354 Orsend me your Info, and can send you or Fax
your the Info... So I need a Phone number or something to contact you.
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From: BENNY FOSTER Number: 4039
To: NANCY DAVIN Date: 09/26/93 10:27p
Subj: World Book Encyclopedia/C Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Can anyone give me a price quote for a CD-ROM with (specifically) Wor
-> Encyclopedia?
Make sure you have a good look at the World Book first! I looked at it
and was shocked! No pictures or audio at all. My World Book rep said
that it was one of the best she had seen. ( I dont think she had a
computer though!) If you like text only, World Book is for you, but
several others might interest you more if you review them first.
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From: BENNY FOSTER Number: 4040
To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN Date: 09/26/93 10:29p
Subj: Prophone 93 (7-Disks) Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I say an ad for prophone and was wondering if you had any more. Please
drop me a note with the quanity you have (need aprox 10) and the price
for them.
Thank you.
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4041
To: DAVID RICE Date: 09/25/93 10:43p
Subj: GIFs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DR> Does anyone know where I can get the "GIFs Galore" CD. I have
DR> been looking everwhere localy and no one has it. Please give
DR> me pricing on it too if you can. Thanks in advance.
We have them in stock at $15.00 if you're interested Dave. Call at the
number below to order.
Later,
.\\ike
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4042
To: RUSSELL HARDIE Date: 09/25/93 10:43p
Subj: CD-ROM Duplicate Analyzer Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RH>I recently saw someone post a message which was a duplicate files table
betwe
RH>many popular CD-ROMs.
RH>It used a program referred to as "Bob Neal's CD-ROM Duplicate Analyzer v1.0"
RH>Does anyone know the filename of that program? I would love to get hold of
i
That was my list. You can download the program from our BBS @ 509-457-0206.
Good little utility!
Later,
.\\ike
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4043
To: ANDREW SEE Date: 09/25/93 10:43p
Subj: NEW FIREARMS CD! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AS>MS> | Title: FIREARMS REFERENCE Price: $30 |
AS>MS>
AS>MS> * Features over 600 products from 70 different manufacturers
AS>MS> * 256-color hi-rez images * BBS-Ready in several formats
AS>MS> * Custom-designed Super-VGA interface
AS>MS> * Covers every firearm from black powder rifles, to Class 3 weap
AS>As we Aussies say... Only in America.
Whaaaa? You boys don't have popguns down yonder? What do you use to
chase off the wild dingos? 8)
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4044
To: TANYA BROCK Date: 09/25/93 10:43p
Subj: Giga Games Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TB> Has anyone seen a CDROM called GIGA GAMES? I saw it advertised in the
TB>latest issue of PC Magazine. It was in an ad from Walnut Creek so I
TB>would assume that they produced it. Any info would be appreciated and
TB>if anyone was it cheaper than the $39.95 it was advertised for I would
TB>be interested to hear from you.
Ouch! Don't pay that much!! We have Giga Games in stock at $25. Can
ship same day. Gimme a call if interested!
Later,
.\\ike
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)
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* SLMR 2.1a * I've told you a million times not to exaggerate.
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 4045
To: CARL SLAWINSKI Date: 09/27/93 5:24p
Subj: Cd's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Carl!
Haven't heard any thing yet. Did you get the money?
Will wait for a reply.
Pat
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* Origin: Thin Ice BBS * Corpus Christi, Texas (1:160/9)
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 4046
To: BILL JONES Date: 09/27/93 5:24p
Subj: Cd's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Bill!
Did you get the money yet? Haven't heard anything from, hope you recived it OK
please reply.
Pat
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* Origin: Thin Ice BBS * Corpus Christi, Texas (1:160/9)
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From: STEPHEN GUPTON Number: 4047
To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 09/26/93 2:21p
Subj: free cream of the crop cd! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a msg on <Sep2614:21, Terry Blount of 1:3625/441 writes:
TB> Hello !
TB> I'm offering a free Cream of the Crop cd with the purchase of
TB> a Shareware Studio II and Up All Night cd. I am
TB> overstocked in these disc and am selling them out for $25
TB> each. In other words get ALL three disc for $50. !!!
TB> But wait! That's not all. I will pay the shipping and
TB> c.o.d. charges too! Call 205-824-2552 before supplies run
TB> out.
Any plans for releasing a updated version of Cream Of The Crop?
-=Stephen=-
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From: DAVID HO Number: 4048
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/26/93 9:04p
Subj: CATALOG Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please send the CD-ROM catalog to E-Mail David.Ho@Deepcove.com (internet)
Thanx.
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* Origin: Deep Cove BBS - White Rock, B.C., Canada (604)536-5885 (1:153/915)
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From: DAVID HO Number: 4049
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/26/93 9:07p
Subj: CATALOG Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please send your CD-ROM catalog to E-MAIL David.Ho@Deepcove.com (internet).
thanx.
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* Origin: Deep Cove BBS - White Rock, B.C., Canada (604)536-5885 (1:153/915)
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From: RON FINDLING Number: 4050
To: TOM KASHUBA Date: 09/25/93 5:50a
Subj: Quest for Good CD-ROMs! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>I often wonder why we all lean so heavily toward such low
>quality viewing as currently provided by an MPC system.
>This includes audio, as well. Not to mention the
>vaguaries, difficulties, and many system hiccups that an
>MPC setup involves.
(Many examples given)
Ah, the emperor has no clothes? I agree, because for all the
gee-whiz cheering out there, you're absolutely right, CD-ROM
stuff follows Sturgeons Law to the letter.
Part of the reason has to do with the continual upgrading of
the MPC standards, since we can't expect people to be satisfied
until they can get high resolution, high color, high frame rate
full motion video with great sound, and get a LOT of it, in a
fully interactive way. Unfortunately, that requires just a tad
better (okay, a LOT better) hardware than is commonly available
right now.
Especially memory. When one sees how such an image can take up an
ungodly number of megabytes just for a few seconds worth, one can
see we still have a LONG way to go.
As for the setup difficulties, one of the reasons is OS related -
if you can't get enough memory in DOS, dump it. If Windows can't
multitask what you're trying, dump IT. Go to OS/2 or (ugh) NT, they
have their own setup problems, but at least one doesn't have to worry
about things like getting enough conventional memory...
___
X SLMR 2.1a X Whoops, sorry, it's Windows *5.0* that'll be perfect.
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From: WILLIAM FERNANDEZ Number: 4051
To: JEFF JENKINS Date: 09/27/93 12:56p
Subj: Cd Kits Prices <Aust>e Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
┌────────────────────┐
╒══╡ From: JEFF JENKINS │ ════════════════════════╡On: 09-26-93╞═══╕
│ └────────────────────┘ │
│ │
│ JJ>I have the panasonic 563, it's it's the best CD I have had │
│ yet! JJ>it's FAST and I got a pretty good deal │
│ JJ>CD drive w/controller, stereo sound card, 3 very good CD's │
│ including MPC JJ>encylcolpedia, mic... for 399.00 plus it was │
│ on sale, and I got to use my 10% JJ>discound card I got with my │
│ Mongomery Wards credit card. │
│ JJ>it only cost me 350.00! │
╘═════════════════════════════════════════════[ End Quote.. ]═══╛
Sorry to break in but;
I just purchased the Panasonic 563 for 379.00, it came with a
16bit sound card, speakers, and 8 cd's, also, a gentleman I spoke
with said he ran the Toshiba 3401, Texcel 3028, and the Panasonic
536, on the same 'puter, and said they were almost identical, I was
going to purchase the Toshiba, but I was told by many people that
there is a minimal performance diffrence, so I went for the
Panasonic, BTW, have you heard of the performance diffrences between
these drives.
-\\ILL-
* OLX 2.2 * --T-A+G-L-I+N-E--+M-E-A+S-U-R+I-N-G+--G-A+U-G-E--
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From: LEO MULVIHILL Number: 4052
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/26/93 8:39p
Subj: CD-ROM SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please send me your latest catalog
Leo M. Mulvihill
P.O Box 274
Colmar, PA 18915-0274
Wildcelt@delphi.com
Thanks
Leo
* SLMR 2.1a * Backup not found: (A)bort (R)etry (P)anic
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From: LEO MULVIHILL Number: 4053
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/26/93 8:49p
Subj: SPECIAL CD-ROM PRICES!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please send me a catalog,
Leo Mulvihill
P.O. Box 274
Colmar, PA 18915-0274
or
WildCelt@delphi.com
Leo
* SLMR 2.1a * Nothing is so smiple that it can't get screwed up.
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From: BILL DENNISON Number: 4054
To: RICHARD ROBB Date: 09/26/93 7:36p
Subj: NORTON SPEEDRIVE = NORTON Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I recently ordered Norton Speedcache 4.0 and was surprised to receive
-> package called Norton Speedrive 4.0. Both claim to be able to cache
-> CD-ROM drives.
Norton Speedcache has been renamed to Speedrive. Don't know why, but
when the Symantec rep dropped off a copy it had been repackaged in their
new yellow box with the new name also.
Bill
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From: BILL DENNISON Number: 4055
To: CHRIS SLOYAN Date: 09/26/93 7:37p
Subj: Advice Please..... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I just bought the New Panasonic Multi-Spin CD rom kit which
-> included the SoundBlaster 16 card. Has anyone heard anything about th
-> yet. Good, bad, or indifferent? Thanks!
I like those kits - first ones to come close to competing
performance-wise with the more expensive Media Vision/NEC kits! The
drive's performance puts my old Mitsumi to shame. :(
--- WM v2.09/92-0445
* Origin: The Storm Front BBS - (215)788-4339 v.32b (1:273/216)
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From: TONY DAVIS Number: 4056
To: ALL Date: 09/27/93 11:23a
Subj: Oklahoma BBS Bust Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
From The Dialy Oklahoman Newspaper, September 27, 1993, Page 1:
COMPUTER PORN CASE TRIGGERS LEGAL QUESTIONS
By David Zizzo, Staff Writer
Is talking to Anthony Davis hazardous to your health?
In a manner of speaking, that's what numerous people with computers and
modems apparently have been worrying about since late July. That's
when Oklahoma City police raided Davis' software publishing firm and
confiscated his sophisticated commercial computer bulletin board
system. Authorities allege Davis was selling pornographic computerized
materials on CD-ROM and through files downloaded over phone lines.
Names of everyone who signed onto Davis' bulletin board service, those
who downloaded or uploaded graphic files depicting sexual acts and
those who didn't are in the hands of investigators.
After the arrest, Earl Faubion, a police officer who runs a law
enforcement oriented computer bulletin board system, got numerous
inquiries from worried users. "There are a lot of people concerned,"
Faubion said. Many who used Davis' system for months and have been
asking, "Am I in trouble?" Faubion, who ironically channeled much of
his computer system's private mail through Davis' system before it was
shut down, tells users that's out of his area of expertise.
Bill Holmes, Davis' attorney, said bulletin board system operators fear
their computers will be seized along with the electronic mail inside.
The Davis bust sent a chill throughout the national computer community,
said Jack Rickard, editor and publisher of Boardwatch magazine, a
bulletin board newsletter published in Littleton, Colo. "It's causing
chaos," he said. Rickard said Oklahoma City is being viewed "a little
bit like clown city" in computer circles, since the explicit material
Davis offered can be purchased in nearly every computer magazine and is
carried by numerous bulletin boards. "This is off the shelf," he said.
"It's considered pretty mundane stuff."
Widespread availability is not a defense, however, attorney Holmes
said. The allegedly illegal material was contained on four read-only
memory compact discs and represented only a fraction of information
offered by Davis.
Oklahoma City police referred questions on the Davis case to the
district attorney's office. An assistant prosecutor handling the case
referred questions to District Attorney Bob Macy, who did not return
several phone calls.
The bust will test Oklahoma laws on "community standards" regarding
pornography, said Mike Godwin, attorney for the Electronic Frontier
Foundation. The Washington, D.C., advocacy group is funded by donors
that include large software companies. "When you talk about community
standards, who's the real community?" Godwin wonders. "Is it the city
or ... the community of people on-line?"
Holmes, a former Cleveland County prosecutor, calls Oklahoma's
pornography law "an extremely broad statute." "I'm not sure it wouldn't
include Playboy or Penthouse type publications," he said.
Legal experts say Oklahoma's law appears aimed against sale or
distribution of pornographic material. That leaves some to wonder
whether passing a free copy to a friend constitutes distribution. Part
of the law also appears to make possession a crime, but U.S. Supreme
Court rulings have backed an individual's right to own such material,
Holmes said. Also, free speech guarantees likely would protect those
who use words to describe pornographic acts, he said. Explicit
materials depicting children are covered under much stricter laws, but
Davis' CDs contained no such material.
Apart from the pornography question is the issue of electronic mail
seized with Davis' computer equipment, correspondence most legal
experts say is protected by federal law. Davis' computer was part of a
large electronic mail system that shuttled messages across the country.
Critics of the bust say likely lawsuits over the mail might show the
government "has bitten off more than it can chew." They point to a case
in Austin where the owner of a computer won a $50,000 damage award over
E-mail seized by the Secret Service. The government also was liable
for $1,000 for each user of the E-mail. In Davis' case, that could be
up to 2,000 clients, or $2 million. "The city of Oklahoma City could
be on the hook for that," Rickard said.
Critics also say police over reached in grabbing Davis' entire system,
shutting down his pay-for-play computer service, because of four CDs.
Prosecutors are seeking forfeiture of the system, which includes a 13
gigabyte memory unit and 10 high speed modems. "They don't have to
seize it any more than they have to seize the building when they
confiscate a bookstore," said Godwin of the Electronic Frontier
Foundation.
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From: JORGE GUTIERREZ Number: 4057
To: ROB PERELMAN Date: 09/26/93 6:43a
Subj: FREE CATALOG Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I would like to have a list of the cd-rom's
My name and address is:
Jorge Gutierrez
11215 N.W. 6 Street
Miami, Florida 33172-3558
Thank you very much.
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From: ERIC HSIAO Number: 4058
To: WARREN WILLIAMS Date: 09/26/93 7:55p
Subj: Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Do you have any CD-ROMs you want to trade? If you have 7th Guest and want to
sell it used, I'm interested in buying it. I got a new one called Walkthroughs
and Flybys, full of FLI & FLC animations, and a few Eurodemos like Future Crew
and Triton stuff. The FLI animations are really nice, and I'm looking for more
discs with just animations on them.
- Eric
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From: CHANCHAI HOSANGUAN Number: 4059
To: CHRIS SNYDER Date: 09/24/93 11:48p
Subj: Re: Cd for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CS> Includes: TST's World Atlas, US Atlas, Reference Library and the game,
CS> The Secret of Monkey Island.
CS> $15 or make me an offer, will ship USPS 2nd day for $2.
I'll take it at your price. Let me know where to send the check.
--- GEcho 1.00+
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From: JOE HALE Number: 4060
To: ALL Date: 09/26/93 5:17p
Subj: Mitsumi CD-Rom's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have two Mitsumi CD-Roms forsale.
$150.00 ea.
Reply in message, or call 513-533-0320 and leave a message.
Joe
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From: DON BOSMAN Number: 4061
To: NORMAN HAVENS Date: 09/24/93 11:05a
Subj: Britanica Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NH>3. Any word on whether/when the Encyclopedia Britannica will come
NH>out on CD-ROM?
I talked to a rep at the Book Sellers convention, who said they had no
plans to do a CD until they could do it "right". Totally ut to date
etc.
My personal opinion is that Britanica has so many involved in selling
the paper versions that they can't afford to curtail those sales with
a CD set.
Think about it, how many library's would buy the obsolete paper
version if they could get a network-able CD set, how many parents
would dedicate the space to paper if they could just add a CD drive
and a one inch "bookshelf"?
___
X OLX 2.2 X Don't blame the tool for the murderer's work.
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From: KURT EASTABROOKS Number: 4062
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/25/93 3:24p
Subj: SOUNDBLASTER CD-ROM DRIVE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Yep, the new Panasonic 562b internal for $249.00 !
> Intertested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 and we'll be happy
> to
> assist you further.
Boris,
does the panasonic 562b allow multiple drives off of one card? I have 3 alder
Hitachi's that are finially giving up the ghost ands will be looking to replace
them with stackable internals.
Kurt Eastabrooks
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From: CHRIS BLANKENSHIP Number: 4063
To: ALL Date: 09/27/93 10:57p
Subj: Action Media Drivers... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anybody have Action Media SCSI drivers for dos and OS/2? I am in
desperate need to make this SCSI Adapter board work in my computer, the only
problem is that it is on my system board, and I dont have the factory drivers
disk's... Also on the system board is the Designtech HIAMP sound chip. I dont
have drivers for that either.. any help guys? I have tried CorelSCSI for a
possible generic SCSI adapter driver, but it does not work.. Any and all help
is greatly appreciated!.. Thx :)
Chris
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From: BRIAN ELFERT Number: 4064
To: ALL Date: 09/27/93 10:26p
Subj: Drives that read 697 megs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for a SCSI CD-ROM drive that will read ALL of the files on
Storm #1. It has 697 megs on it. My Chinon 435 drives will not read all
of the disk.
If you have a drive and have tested it with Storm I, please tell me.
(Has anyone tried it with a Texel DM 3024 or 3028?)
Brian
P.S. I'm also looking for the names of some good, very new Adult CDs as
an alternative to spending $300 - $400 on a new drive.
--- WM v3.01/91-0224
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From: HAROLD BINGHAM Number: 4065
To: ALL Date: 09/27/93 4:38p
Subj: MITSUMI # CRMC Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
With the Mitsumi CD-ROM model:crmc I have an 8 bit card and get bad
performance with it . Can I use it on the SB16?
--- TBBS v2.1/NM
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From: SIMON GRONOW Number: 4066
To: ALL Date: 09/26/93 12:06p
Subj: DRM-60x Ver 1.11 Drivers! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* Crossposted in RA_BETA
* Crossposted in CDROM
* Crossposted in AUST_SYSOP
* Crossposted in OZ_BETA
* Crossposted in OBTT
Hello All!
I have the latest version of the Pioneer DRM-60x Drivers.
The filename is DR60V111.EXE and it's 176k BIG!
It's available from 3:632/998
3:632/999
3:632/1000
Simon Gronow
The Software Works, mail by the Bay
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From: TONY STOTT Number: 4067
To: RUSSELL HARDIE Date: 09/27/93 7:28a
Subj: 7Th Guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-22-93, in a colourful display of the English language, Russell
Hardie said to All:-
RH>I have finally got 7th Guest working on my system, but....
RH>
RH>When I play it, when people speek, their voices break up so much that
RH>it is almost impossible to undertand them.
RH>
RH>Any suggestions?
RH>
RH>My system is:
RH>
RH>486-25SX, 4Mb RAM
RH>Panasonic Double Speed Cd-ROM Drive
RH>Sound Blaster 16 ASP
RH>
RH>I have installed the 7th Guest fix, dated December 1992. Is there are
RH>a later one available that will help my problem? If so, if anyone can
RH>give me the node number of a BBS I can FREQ it off, I'll be very
RH>greatful (preferably v32bis).
Please post yuor autoexec and config.sys files so we can have a look
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Cowpe
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From: QUINN LARKIN Number: 4068
To: DAVID POMEROY Date: 09/26/93 12:10p
Subj: Re: cd-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>ok, thanks for the support. At the moment I'll keep your name etc on
>file. I'll email you as soon as its ready to go - ie: once I've talked to
>a few more people, chatted with some suppliers etc. If I need some help
>I'll definitely let you know....
Cool! I look foward to hearing from you!
-Quinn Larkin-
... DeltaMail v2.40 (#1144)
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From: ALAN WHITEMORE Number: 4069
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/26/93 8:58a
Subj: panasonic 562b Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Rowan!
AW>>> Well that last line is wrong. If I unplug the cable connecting
AW>>> the CD-ROM to the line-in on the SB whilst an audio piece is
AW>>> playing, I lose all sound. How can the line-in be for recording
AW>>> purposes =only=?
RE>> <g>).. and then you don't provide sufficient info to
RE>> let me know *EXACTLY* what you're doing!
AW>> I agree that I could have been clearer. The audio I mentioned is the
AW>> audio from multimedia applications and not audio CD.
RE> The plot thickens.... I would have expected multimedia sound to have
come
RE> off the CD-ROM, into memory and then been passed to the sound card via
RE> the Windows MM drivers....
What you expected is what is happening <sheepish grin>
AW>> I have a cable running from the external red & white connectors on the
AW>> CD-ROM interface card to the line-in on the SB mono. This cable
AW>> appears to provide the audio - from MM apps NOT audio CD's ;-), and if
AW>> I unplug that cable whilst the MM app is running, the sound is
AW>> abruptly cut off. This was my basic test to prove that the line-in
AW>> wasn't just for recording purposes as had been suggested.
RE> Hmmm.... Curiouser and curiouser said Alice.... <g>..... The red & white
RE> connectors on the CD-ROM i/f card come from audio out at the back of the
RE> CD-ROM... This is where sound comes from for an audio CD! I'm starting
to
RE> want my old SB 2.0 back, just for some testing! <g>
I'm guilty of giving out misinformation. I've tested it again, and
disconnecting the red and white connectors whilst MM sound is playing has no
effect. The only excuse I can possibly offer is that during my previous
experimentation, I may have inadvertently disconnected the SB line-out to
stereo cable instead. Sorry.
Regards, Alan
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From: ALAN WHITEMORE Number: 4070
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/26/93 9:01a
Subj: Panasonic 562b + Sb Mono Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Rowan!
AW>> I'm mostly just plugging headphones into the jack on the 562b for
AW>> audio CD's. It doesn't drive them as loudly as the typical audio
AW>> portable CD player does though. I'm quite impressed that playing
AW>> an audio CD in the background has such little impact on Window's
AW>> performance.
RE> The CD-ROM headphone out is non-amplified.... Your SB 2.0 has (I think)
RE> 2 watts... my SB 16 ASP has 4 watts of amplification... more than enough
RE> to upset most of the cheap speakers around!
AW>> The classical music I mentioned was one of the selections in the STW
AW>> MPC encyclopedia. I found the distortion quite evident and just
AW>> wondered how much more superior the SB 16 ASP was for MM applications.
AW>>
RE> Which one? I'll play it and see....
Under 'SOUND' then 'MUSICAL SELECTIONS', most of pieces show the distortion
I mentioned. "Handel, George Frideric - Water Music, Hornpipe" is one of
the more distorted examples on my setup.
Regards, Alan
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From: TERRY MENZIES Number: 4071
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/24/93 8:53p
Subj: Re: CR562B CD-ROM Drive.. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Rowan Evans to Malcolm Wright <=-
RE> Hi Mal!
RE> On 09-14-93 Malcolm Wright wrote to All...
MW> Can anyone here tell me where I can get a Panasonic Cr-562-b Cd-Rom
MW> drive here in Western Australia?
RE> Try your local Osborne Computers (Australia) dealer! They resell the
RE> CR562B and paddle card as their CD-200 kit.
MW> What is the approximate cost I am looking at?
RE> I'd say around $A450.00.... I haven't been able to get their current
RE> price for this kit out of the local salesmen yet!
Hi Rowan,
I contacted a guy the other day in response to an magazine add
for an Panasonic CD-Rom Drive for $AUS399.95
I called him for specs etc and they follow......
Panasonic 562
Internal
Double speed
Kodak Multi Session
Transfer rate=300kb/s
Access time=320 ms
680-690 capacity
Note that he called it **562**, Would those specs fit the Cr-562-b?
The Drive requires an $50 controller card to work with the SB-Pro,
or it will work via direct CD-Drive -> Amplifier if no SB is there.
I have one of the SB V2 mono cards in my system.
TM. :)
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From: TERRY MENZIES Number: 4072
To: SCOTT GOLBY Date: 09/25/93 7:45p
Subj: Re: Catalogs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Scott Golby to Adrian Salas <=-
SG> Hi there,
AS> If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave your
AS> mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
SG> If you can Netmail or EMial it, I'll take one thanks.
Hi Scott,
I you get a cataloge, could you net me a copy of it too?
TM. :>
... Trust in Allah...but tie up your camel.
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From: TERRY MENZIES Number: 4073
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/25/93 8:04p
Subj: Re: GIFs Refer: NONE
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Hi Boris,
Can you send me a complete catalogue of CD hardware /Software
please?
320 Pallas Street
MARYBOROUGH QLD 4650
AUSTRALIA.
Thanks.
TM. :>
... New Mail not found. Start whine-pout sequence? (Y/N)
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From: LAURIE BATT Number: 4074
To: CHRIS MASON Date: 09/26/93 11:03a
Subj: DISCOUNT CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Why does your BBS echo all these messages again ???
I hope you are prepared to pay the excess phone bills for all those
international and national feeds.
In this packet alone I counted 64 messages retransmitted by your system.
Please check and fix your config.
HP> 97365.
HP> -!- GOMail v1.1 [92-0231]
HP> ! Origin: Origin Line Not Defined In GOEDIT (1:152/103)
HP> -!- VFIDO 6.10.01
HP> ! Origin: The Glass City (1:226/1300)
Laurie
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From: LAURIE BATT Number: 4075
To: ANDREW PAGE Date: 09/26/93 11:19a
Subj: BBS LISTING Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
G'day Andrew, In a message on <Sep 22>, you said :
AP> Excuse me, but when you address to "sysop" in this area,
AP> you're writing to EVERY sysop in the USA that carries this
AP> echo.
You forgot about the rest of the world <g>.
This is an International Echo.
Laurie
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From: LAURIE BATT Number: 4076
To: TIM WENAS Date: 09/26/93 11:23a
Subj: Where To Buy Sb16/Mm Upg Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
G'day Tim, In a message on <Sep 20>, you said :
RE>> SB CD16 Discovery Kit $A 799.00
RE>> SB CD16 Performance Kit $A 999.00
RE>> SB CD16 Premium Kit $A1199.00
RE>> The only difference is the number of CD-ROMs in the kits!
TW> Umm... in this list I have here, the Discovery kit only has
TW> a Sound Blaster Pro 2, while the Perfomance and Premium have
TW> Sound Blaster 16s.
You may find there are two kits !
If the labeling says SB16 Discovery kit, I would imagine it would be very
unlikely to find an SBPRO in the box. If that were the case then I would sue
for false advertising.
Laurie
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From: LAURIE BATT Number: 4077
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/26/93 11:37a
Subj: Re: Panasonic Cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
G'day Boris, In a message on <Sep 23>, you said :
BO> Well, lets see.....I have two manuals here in front of
BO> me....one say's 340ms average access time, while the other
BO> say's 320ms average access time.
BO> Both manuals seem to have the same publishing date and both
BO> unit's, I pulled the manuals out of were dated 1993. Best
BO> quess would be to split the diffrence and say thier 330ms
BO> average access time.....grin -:)
Better make sure you put the correct books back in the right box <G>
They prob test them and place the book according to the result of the test <G>
Laurie
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From: LAURIE BATT Number: 4078
To: JEFF TAYLOR Date: 09/26/93 11:43a
Subj: SPECIAL CD-ROM PRICES!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
G'day Jeff, In a message on <Sep 22>, you said :
->> (1:102/523)
JT> Please Mail Me Your Catalog...
JT> Jeff Taylor
JT> 5248 NW 94th Terrace
JT> Sunrise, Fl 33351
JT> -!- WM v3.01/92-0182
JT> ! Origin: Dr Downloads BBS (305) 746-0795 (1:369/74.0)
Why didnt you just ask him instead of quoting the whole xxxxx message.
Laurie
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From: GEOFF HOWSE Number: 4079
To: PATRICK FITZGERALD Date: 09/24/93 11:27p
Subj: SB-16 ASP + Panasonic CR- Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PF>Please Help me,
PF>I've just bought the SB16 ASP + Panasonic CR-562-B Multimedia kit & it
PF>work !
PF>AUTOEXEC.BAT
PF>
PF>SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330 T6
PF>SET SOUND=C:\SB16
PF>C:\SB16\SB16SET /M:220 /VOC:220 /CD:220 /MIDI:220 /TREBLE:0
PF>C:\SB16\SBCONFIG.EXE /S
PF>LH C:\WINDOWS\SMARTDRV.EXE
PF>LH MOUSE/2
PF>@ECHO OFF
PF>PROMPT $p$g
PF>PATH C:\DOS;c:\windows
PF>SET TEMP=C:\DOS
PF>C:\DOS\DOSSHELL
PF>C:\SB16\DRV\MSCDEX.EXE /D:MSCD001 /V /M:15
PF>
Hello Patrick,
Looks like MSCDEX is not loading because DOSSHELL is stopping your
AUTOEXEC.BAT dead in its tracks.
Try moving the c:\dos\dosshell line to the end of AUTOEXEC.BAT.
Just for the record, here are my startup files (using the SB16 ASP and
563).
CONFIG.SYS
DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS
DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS
buffers=30,0
files=40
DOS=UMB
LASTDRIVE=K
fcbs=1,0
DOS=HIGH
STACKS=9,256
country=061,,c:\dos\country.sys
SHELL=C:\DOS\COMMAND.COM C:\DOS\ /e:260 /p
DEVICEHIGH /L:1,5264 =D:\SB16\DRV\ASP.SYS /P:220
DEVICEHIGH /L:1,13552 =D:\SB16\DRV\SBCD.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:220
DEVICEHIGH /L:1,44688 =C:\DOS\DBLSPACE.SYS /MOVE
AUTOEXEC.BAT
SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330 T6
SET SOUND=D:\SB16
D:\SB16\SB16SET /M:220 /VOC:220 /CD:220 /MIDI:220 /LINE:220 /TREBLE:100
D:\SB16\SBCONFIG.EXE /S
@echo off
LH /L:0;1,42384 /S C:\DOS\SMARTDRV.EXE i j
dblspace /ratio /all
prompt $p$g$
set winpmt=$p$g$
PATH:\DOS;C:\WINDOWS;c:\zip;
LH /L:1,15520 C:\DOS\keyb us,,c:\dos\keyboard.sys
LH /L:1,6400 C:\DOS\doskey
octmouse
verify on
set TEMP=C:\WINDOWS\TEMP
LH /L:1,52464 undelete /load
LH /L:1,46576 D:\SB16\DRV\MSCDEX.EXE /D:MSCD001 /V /M:15
\menu\menu
Everything works fine for me.
Bye.
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 4080
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/26/93 11:56a
Subj: SBPro, does it have a li Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE> Plus I've benchmarked the SB Pro 2/CR562B combo to within 1% or so o
RE> speed when the CR562B is attached to the SB 16 ASP, which is the fas
RE> sound card/CD-ROM combo I've seen to date.....
The newer Pioneer 6 changer has a quad speed transfer rate. 600 kb/s
The Toshiba drive has a seek time of 200 ms.
The panasonic drive has 300kb/s and 320-350 ms access.
Would you agree that both are faster than Panasonic drive?
There is however a faster Panasonic drive, soon to be released, it is a
caddy job giving it a better seek time (280ms) and SCSI2.
Still same transfer rate though.
Also CL are releasing a SB16 soon with a SCSI port built in.
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From: DEAN MACKIN Number: 4081
To: AL KOLLER Date: 09/27/93 9:25a
Subj: Re: Pioneer DRM 600 problem Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AK>Thanks Dean. Your suggestions covered about all the options. Turns out
AK>that
AK>the controller was bad. I have another on its way now. Had the drive
AK>two weeks and still not up and running.....
Glad you got it sorted out.
╔══════════════════╗
║Regards -= Dino =-║
╚══════════════════╝
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From: CHRIS ZITO Number: 4082
To: CHRIS SLOYAN Date: 09/26/93 4:41p
Subj: Re: Advice Please..... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Chris Sloyan to All <=-
CS> Hi All,
CS> I just bought the New Panasonic Multi-Spin CD rom kit which
CS> included the SoundBlaster 16 card. Has anyone heard anything about
CS> these yet. Good, bad, or indifferent? Thanks!
The Multispin is okay. The Sound Blaster 16 basically stinks. I don't know
why people care more about the SCSI on the sound card than how the sound card
sounds. That's why they call it a "sound card." People on this echo are
actually waiting for the next OPL chip. OPL2 and OPL3 (SB16) are FM, people!
Wavetable IS the next generation. Look into a GUS.
... 32 digital voices - that's either a Ultrasound or 4 Amigas
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From: CHRIS ZITO Number: 4083
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/26/93 5:03p
Subj: Re: Panasonic 562b + Sb Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Rowan Evans to Alan Whitemore <=-
RE> Did you stop and think about how the samples were recorded? Maybe the
RE> classical music is recorded in stereo at 44.1Khz and the birds and
RE> bees in mono at 22.05!
The SB 2.0 can play 44.1Khz stereo samples at 44.1Khz mono, I hope you know.
RE> The CD-ROM headphone out is non-amplified.... Your SB 2.0 has (I
RE> think) 2 watts... my SB 16 ASP has 4 watts of amplification... more
RE> than enough to upset most of the cheap speakers around!
The SB 2.0 has 4 watts per channel amplification. Speakers sound bad because
they're cheap, not because of 4 watts of amperage.
Note: I really hate SB 16 ASP users that think they have the best sound
card, when really they've overspent for an overpriced, stone-age FM card
with overpriced options (such as the WaveBlaster). Just because a card has
"16 bit 44.1 Khz stereo sound" written on it does not mean the music is any
better than FM and besides, how many people do you know have a stereo
microphone to record with?
... Ultrasound, $129, 16 bit 44khz playback, 32 stereo wavetable voices
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From: CHRIS ZITO Number: 4084
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 09/26/93 5:17p
Subj: Re: SB PRO OR SB 16 Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Ashwin Bihari to Bob Roman <=-
AB> Okay thanx, but I see in different magazines that SB 16 is a better
AB> technology and all this upgrading to ASP and stuff, well since the
AB> price difference is not too much, I guess I will go with the best they
AB> have to offer, thanx and TTYL.
Whoa, wait up! Why are you only looking at Creative Labs products? The
Pro Audio Spectrum 16 is an excellent SCSI card at an excellent price. ASP is
just Advanced Signal Processing (a data compression engine) which has little or
no support as of today. What's even better is the Gravis Ultrasound. The
"GUS" has:
1) 32 digital stereo wavetable voices (the kind the $500 Roland cards have)
2) 16 bit 44.1 khz stereo playback. 8 bit 44.1 khz stereo record.
3) SCSI optional add-on card or 16 bit record add-on card
4) 3D sound capability
5) General MIDI compatibility
6) SB Software support (thru SBOS, a SB emulation program)
7) Native GUS support
8) $199 list price, $129 street price
... Yamaha OPL3 is FM (crap) / Esonique is WAVETABLE (wave of the future)
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From: RONALD LEON Number: 4085
To: JULIAN SCHOFFEL Date: 09/28/93 1:00a
Subj: CD Speedway Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Julian Schoffel beamed onto the Enterprise and said:
JS>I have a NEC Multispin, which is supposed to be one of the fastest CD-
JS>drives around at the moment. I was thinking of getting CD Speedway wh
JS>caching program.
I got lousey results with Speedway but got excellent results with
Lightning CD.
Ron
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From: RONALD LEON Number: 4086
To: GENE EHRICH Date: 09/28/93 1:04a
Subj: Encarta... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Gene Ehrich beamed onto the Enterprise and said:
GE>RR> I have for sale: ENCARTA by Microsoft. It is not new. I will
GE>RR>it for the first $105 offer I get. The price includes shipping in
GE>RR>US. Get back to me here and leave a message. I only have one so
GE>
GE> $35 including shipping.
GE>
GE> I can't imagine anybody will pay $105 for a used CD that you can bu
GE> new for just a few dollars more.
I've never seen Encarta anywhere for less than $249 Gene and I keep an eye
out for it because it's on my want list.
Ron
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From: BENNY FOSTER Number: 4087
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/27/93 10:50p
Subj: HELP!!!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> >does anyone know how to connect a mitsumi cd-rom drive model CRMC to
-> >blaster pro. i need to hook up the cd interface not the audio.
->
-> You DON'T.
I could be wrong, and a thousand people will tell me if so (grin) but
the Mitsumi uses a sony interface and there is a kit currently being
sold that includes a Sound Blaster Pro with Sony interface (Yes I said
Sony and not Panasonic), Mario is missing CD, and one other game on CD
that I cannot remember. We just received them in last week and are
planning to hook one up later this week.
BTW the kit is being sold at S.E.C. Custom Computers in Louisville Ky
for $149.00, Their number is 502-448-9397
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From: BENNY FOSTER Number: 4088
To: ALL Date: 09/27/93 11:04p
Subj: Mitsumi Multi Spin?? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have seen a few ads that mention a Mitsumi double spin CD-Rom drive. I
have sold Mitsumi before and slowed down when the Panasonic drive came
out but would still like the info if its been released. Has anyone heard
this or does anyone have data or wholesale pricing on the unit?
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From: DAVID MCSPADDEN Number: 4089
To: MAU TESTA Date: 09/08/93 5:13p
Subj: thanks Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Mau,
Received your first message asking for help to install files into
Wildcat. David is out of town till the end of September and My name is
Valerie. I am trying to take care of business while he is gone. I told
him of you problems and he said you should download ROMDOOR. It is an
excellent program and better than Wildcat interface. When he returns he
said he would be happy to make a disk of ROMDOOR and premade databases
and send to you. Since you have it worked out now you may not want it.
Just let me know. I will try to help in anyway.
Valerie
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From: DAVID MCSPADDEN Number: 4090
To: MAU TESTA Date: 09/13/93 9:37p
Subj: thanks Refer: NONE
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Maurice,
I am happy that everything worked out well for you. Thank you for
the compliment, I appreciate it.
Valerie
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From: JAMES REYLE Number: 4091
To: MICHEAL MULCAHY Date: 09/25/93 2:42a
Subj: technical cdroms disk Refer: NONE
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====QUOTE FROM PREVIOUS MESSAGE====
JR> To all: Can any one tell me if there is CD rom disks geared more
JR> towanrd the Technical Engineer. Also, I'm looking for a disk that
JR> deals alot with Patents and developments. Something like what you
JR> would find out of an Almanac.
JR>
JR> James Reyle
====QUOTE FROM PREVIOUS MESSAGE====
James, I have searching for technical reference material also.
Primarily
information similar to Schaums outlines on Scientifc and Mathematical
information. Should you or I find any such information I will be happy
to share
it with you. Tks...m2
Micheal:
I found a good shareware disk I bought called Libris Britannia. It
has
alot of engineering programs on there. Lots of programming tools
and
etc. It's a little bit more than your average cdrom disk, but it
was
well worth it. I has alot of other stuff. Put out by Walnut Creek
CDRom. I hear there is another technical cd out, called EMS, that
is
very good, probably up your alley.
hope this helps.
James Reyle
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From: RODOLFO VAZ Number: 4092
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/24/93 12:01p
Subj: Did you get my NETMAIL ? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Boris,
I sent a CrashMail to you last week, and I didn't get any
replies from you, even through CDROM-ECHOMAIL.
Please, tell me if you did get it, O.K. ? Because I want those
CDs...
Rodolfo Vaz
NC806
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From: RODOLFO VAZ Number: 4093
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/26/93 2:51a
Subj: DR. CD Collection Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BO>Nope a problem, glad we were able to help.....
BO>Hope we'll be hearing from you again real soon....
BO>Boris Osadciw
Thanks Boris,
you will be hearing from me REAL SOON. Please, any new CDs ...
advertise, O.K. ?????
And don't forget to send me a complete catalog, right ?
Thanks,
Rodolfo Vaz
NC806
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From: JOE HALE Number: 4094
To: TARQUINN WATSON Date: 09/27/93 7:18a
Subj: Pioneer 6 pack Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I run multiaple 6 disks changers in a TBBS enviroment and have not su
-> of the problems you describe :). Even with 5 people downloading. I
-> seperate sever for the DRMs, and it copies the file to a staging dire
-> ultra fast scsi hard drive. I have heard that if I connected the drm
-> to the BBS machines it would have been very slow and problems would o
-> all I suggest is that you experiment with a dedicated computer cd_sev
Tarquinn,
Do what I did. I was running 3 Mitsumi Cd-Rom's and was not having to
many problems, but ate up the memory which is very precious to most of
us. I thought about the Pioneer until I found a deal on NEC External
SCCI drives with cables and cards. Think about this: If you have trouble
with that Pioneer you lose all 6 cd's online but I can hook up all 7
Nec's to one card getting more memory and if one cd-rom goes down I dont
loose them all. Now a Pioneer cost the newer one about $1300.00 and 7
NEC's cost me $1200.00 and I got 7 cd's instead of 6. Food for thoguht.
BTW I am not putting the Pioneer down in anyway, all cd-rom's have their
problems.
Joe
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From: GUY R. LANNEWEHR Number: 4095
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/23/93 8:27a
Subj: Re: National telephone direct Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
The prices sound pretty reasonable. Are these disks updated every year, and
if so, what are the prices on upgrades?
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From: GUY R. LANNEWEHR Number: 4096
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 09/23/93 8:30a
Subj: Re: National telephone direct Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JL> I have one unopened set of Prophone 1993 available for $69 plus
JL> shipping. It is a 7 disc set including the business and residential
JL> versions. Give me a call if you are interested.
JL>
JL> Computer Works Jim...
JL> CD-Rom Sales!
JL> (205) 793-4481 Voice
JL> (205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card & COD Orders
Thanks for the offer. I will indeed check it out either at the end of this
year or beginning of next.
Thanks!
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From: JOSEPH THOMAS Number: 4097
To: CHRIS WISE Date: 09/28/93 7:52a
Subj: Os/2 mitsumi driver Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CW> ----------------------------------------
CW> Is there any bulletin board that carries this file, I can not find it
CW> here locally...
Not on BBS. Since we talked, there is a new version 2.2 out
and it is available from Systems integration Tech
2380 south powerline rd.
suite 171
pompano Beach, FL. 33069
The new version has AUDIO support also.
Sorry, they have a BBS support 305-979-1976
Price is 20 or 25.00, I am not sure, I got it as an upgrade. Tnx.
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From: DON BOSMAN Number: 4098
To: ALL Date: 09/27/93 11:18a
Subj: Possibly good prices Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I just got a catalog from a company called CD-ROM Warehouse, a division
of Micro Warehouse. They have some prices that seem great, depending on
exactly who makes their drives.
The house brand is "Power User"
The first unit is a Sony caddyless drive, Double Speed, Multi Session,
Kodak Photo CD compatible, MPC compliant. Internal $225
External $299
With Dinosaurs!, 3D Chess, Mayo Clinic, Grolier: Internal $325
External $399
A Toshiba TXM-3301 lists at $499
Sydos Personal CD lists at $279 with the above bundle $349
They seem to have some very fair prices on discs we don't see on the
echo, such as The Random House Unabridged Dictionary, CD & paper $99
CD-ROM Warehouse's address is
1720 Oak Street, Lakewood, New Jersey, USA, 0870
1-800-237-6623 fax 1-908-370-7046
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From: DON BOSMAN Number: 4099
To: DEALERS Date: 09/27/93 11:37a
Subj: Do you have & how much Refer: NONE
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I am looking to buy a copy of "The Constitutional Papers"
Publisher Johnson & Company, Electronic Publishers and Consultants
I am interested in a review and price for "Video Hound Multimedia"
Thank you.
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From: PAUL HERMANN Number: 4100
To: JULIAN SCHOFFEL Date: 09/28/93 1:12a
Subj: CD Speedway Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JS>I have a NEC Multispin, which is supposed to be one of the
JS>fastest CD-Rom drives around at the moment. I was thinking
JS>of getting CD Speedway which is a caching program. Has
JS>anyone got this program and if so do you think it will make
JS>any noticeable difference to my drive?
I have the same drive and was wondering the same thing. So I asked
around a little and found some people that tried a CD caching program
with the NEC multi-spin drives. They said that there was only a slight
performance gain. I think that these CD-Caches are design with the slow
150kb Drives in mind.
NOTE: If you see some actual numbers on the performance, let me know.
-Paul
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From: JEFF CUTLER Number: 4101
To: RONALD KEENEY Date: 09/26/93 11:04a
Subj: 2 or More Mitsumi's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Ronald!
24 Sep 93 08:06, Ronald Keeney wrote to All:
RK> Has anyone ran 2 or more Mitsumi ROMS on a system. I have one going
RK> now and it has been running great, and instead of purchasing the Pioneer
RK> CD Changer, I would just like to try and add 1 more Mitusmi to the
RK> system, which would be enough.
I tried running two on my board with little success. However there are a
lot of dodads running of the one computer. The Mitsumi's only have 3 DMA
channel choices. That limits you to three CD if you have DMA 5 to 7 free. The
better option is to get a SCSI cd rom like NEC. Then you can daisy chain at
least 8 off of one card. If your running a 1 Gig hard drive it should be SCSI
(mabey, mabey not?) If you are you should be able to hook up a SCSI CD rom
drive off that card (as well as tape backup)
Jolan Tru
Jeff
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From: BRAD YOURTH Number: 4102
To: ALL Date: 09/27/93 11:47a
Subj: cd rom networking Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
+when installing a cdrom network, using optinet software, is version 2.15 of
novel netware sufficient to run the network, or do we need 3.11 or ver 4.0?
any assistance would be appreciated.
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From: CHRIS DONNEGAN Number: 4103
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/27/93 10:44p
Subj: PANASONIC CR562B Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BF>I'm not paying for them at all - look closer, the guy I was replying t
BF>claiming to pay $7.50 for them (and I think he was Australian, so the
BF>have been reasonable in HIS area).....
What's a reasonable price in YOUR area, Brice?
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From: CHRIS DONNEGAN Number: 4104
To: SCOTT CONDER Date: 09/27/93 11:00p
Subj: PANASONIC CD NO MORE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SC>Excuse my butting in, but I called 800-742-8086 almost 2 weeks ago and
SC>named David told me the same thing, that Panasonic no longer makes CD
SC>drives. They still market Magneto Optical and phase change optical dr
SC>no more CDROM. Too bad, I was thinking of buying one, but not if they
SC>of the market. Service problems down the road are something I don't n
SC>anyone finds out that this info is wrong, let me know.
No excuse needed! THANK YOU for butting in! <G> You have confirmed that
this is EXACTLY what Panasonic tells those calling for info in its CD-ROM
drives.
The number you quoted is the Panasonic Office Automation line. Office
Automation is the division in charge of CD-ROM.
Despite what they told BOTH OF US, the parent company, Matsushita
Electric, still makes CD-ROM drives. They are intended for OEM use, mostly
in packaged sets from companies like Creative Labs (who do not use the
"Panasonic" name).
"Panasonic" no longer markets or promotes Matsushita CD-ROM drives. When
you request literature on these drives, they send you a packet on optical
drives ("flopticals") but nothing on CD-ROM hardware.
More to follow....
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From: BUTCH SANDERSON Number: 4105
To: SOMEONE ASKING ABOUT Date: 09/28/93 5:49a
Subj: Mitsumi CD-ROM Audio Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
This message was from GORDON PETERSON to JAMES WILLIAMS,
and was forwarded to someone ?? by BUTCH SANDERSON.
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JW>I have just bought a Mitsumi CD-Rom drive Model LU005U, this is there
JW>latest High Speed Drive. I'm happy with it but am having trouble with
JW>the audio. I can get audio from the front mounted headphone jacks but by
JW>connecting the drive to my sound card (a plain Sound Blaster) with the
JW>cable that came with the sound card and then running the out put of the
JW>sound card to my stero amp, I don't get sound.
Common problem. The socket on the SoundBlaster card is wired backwards.
To work around the problem, use a pin or needle to carefully lift the
locking tab on each of the terminals of the cable's connector, one at a
time. Swap inner-to-outer wires on each side of the connector (so
signal swaps with ground on each side). You'll find that everything
works great.
* SLMR 2.1 *
Butch
_____
I apologize to the person who wrote email to me asking about Mitsumi's
and audio. I bypassed the email online thinking my offline reader would
pick it up......mistake. Anyhow hope this gets to you and helps.
* SLMR 2.1 * Earth: A great place to live if it were'nt for people!
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From: BUTCH SANDERSON Number: 4106
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/28/93 5:45a
Subj: Mitsumi and DOS 6.0? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GP>I had one guy tell me that the Mitsumi drive has some kind of problem or
GP>special configuration required or something to run under MS-DOS 6.0.
GP>Anyone aware of this? Is he right? What's the scoop, guys?
Gordon,
I dont think the person is correct. I run an internal Mitsumi under DOS
6 with about the same basic config I had in DOS 5 and it works great.
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From: PETER LASNE Number: 4107
To: MARLIN ROWLEY Date: 09/27/93 11:29a
Subj: AMIGA CD ROM.. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
The only Amiga CD-ROMs currently are the CDTV and CD32 systems along
with the A570. However, any SCSI CD-ROM will work on the Amiga,
regardless of the computer it is designed for. I had the opportunity
this past week to hook up a couple of different CDROMS to my Amiga 4000
and both worked very well. The software I used was AsimCDFS and I was
pleased with the software. It is very easy and quick to install and
the CD becomes mounted as a volume and device into AmigaDOS, this gives
you access to the CD as easily as a HD or FD, etc. There is a
background program that runs and detects if the CD is removed or
replaced. Using the CDROM and software I had, I was able to look at CDs
for use with OS/2, NEXt, Windows, and Macintosh. The only thing I was
not able to read was a Kodak PhotoCD, the reason was that the CD-ROM
wasn't a multi-session CD-ROM (which is needed to view PhotoCDs), the
software interface supported PhotoCDs, however. There are two other
CD-ROM controlling software packages for the Amiga available in the
commerical market. They are CDX Disk Set (Xetec) and CDROM-FS
(Canadian Prototype Replicas). Note: AsimCDFS is marketed by
Asimware.
While the Amiga will not be able to directly run any programs that
aren't for the Amiga off of a CDROM there are several advantages for
having a CD-ROM on the Amiga:
1) The ability to run all CDTV and CD32 disks on the Amiga
2) Data files can be read from and used off of the CD regardless
of the type of disk assuming the type can be read and mounted (for ex.
disks which contain pictures, clipart, fonts, animations, etc. can all
be read directly from the CD)
3) The CD can be shared between any number of computers (this is
accomplished by placing the CD-ROM on the SCSI chain of both computers
- doing this will enable either computer to access the CD-ROM unit)
4) Massive data storage (you can purchase CDs with encyclopedias,
books, mini-movies, etc.)
5) If a bridgeboard is present in the Amiga you can use the SCSI
chain idea I mentioned earlier so that the IBM BB can have CD-ROM
access.
6) When using the Emplant board, ANY emulation performed by the
board has access to the CD-ROM unit (ie. MACINTOSH emulation with a
CD-ROM shared with the Amiga.)
Most of the info contained on a CD is data, since data is
interchangable between any computer you have access to an additional
650+ meg of data each time you insert a new CD, even if you don't have
the computer it was designed for.
For more info, there is a great article in AmigaWorld (Oct. 93)
concerning CD-ROMs or the Amiga.
Peter Lasne
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From: PETER LASNE Number: 4108
To: MARLIN ROWLEY Date: 09/27/93 11:34a
Subj: AMIGA CD ROM.. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Alot of CD-ROMs that I have seen for PCs contain almost exclusively
data, such as a disk full of clipart or pictures or textfiles, etc.
While the Amiga may not be able to access the program files (except
through an Emplant or BridgeBoard or something) all of the data is
available for the Amiga.
In your question of why is everything moving to CD-ROM, you answered
it, more memory, the disks sometimes contain entire encyclopedias with
animations or 315 photo-quality pictures, etc.
Peter Lasne
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From: MARK CROSBIE Number: 4109
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/27/93 4:34p
Subj: CD-ROMS FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I have other discs for sale also. If you leave me your name
-> and mailing address I can send you a list.
BossMan's HideOut BBS
% Mark Crosbie
P.O. Box 326
London, Oh 43140-0326
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From: ELDON WAKEFIELD Number: 4110
To: ALL Date: 09/27/93 7:28a
Subj: PHEONIX 4 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does any one have the BBS.dir for the Pheonix 4 CD-Rom, It has the one with
[File Name] [Description], But what I need is [File Name] [Size] [Date]
[Description], The previous versions came with this, But this one did not
Thanks in advance Eldon
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From: SHON STERLING Number: 4111
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/23/93 12:36p
Subj: Re: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
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JB>
JB> =======================================================================
JB> ==== Packet: COZYK
JB> Date: 09-16-93 (14:08) Number: 86
JB> From: ADRIAN SALAS Refer#: NONE
JB> To: ALL Recvd: NO
JB> Subj: CATALOGS Conf: (35) CDROM
AS>***************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION ****************
AS>If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave your
>mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
AS>Thank you
>Adrian Salas
If you could please send me one of your Catalogs.. thank you
Shon Sterling
Box 2065
Arnold, CA 95223
thank you.
... This tagline is made just for Adrian Salas
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From: SHON STERLING Number: 4112
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/23/93 12:36p
Subj: Re: DISCOUNT CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
If you could add me to your Mailing list @
Shon Sterling
Box 2065
Arnold, CA 95223
thanks
... Security, confine Ensign Bergman to the brig.
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From: SHON STERLING Number: 4113
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 09/23/93 12:36p
Subj: Re: mail order Refer: NONE
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DS> RE: mail order
DS> BY: Jim Lambert to Ken Chan on Sat Sep 11 1993 03:20 pm
If you could send me a Cd rom Catalog
Shon Sterling
Box 2065
Arnold, CA 95223
thanks
... If it wasn't for C, we would be using BASI, PASAL and OBOL!
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From: KEN HARVEY Number: 4114
To: JIM CUMMINGS Date: 09/25/93 2:18p
Subj: Re: GOVT CD-ROM Refer: NONE
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JC> un-Constitutioality. If you were a lobbist for a particular industry, the
JC> search program would find all conflicting laws concerning your industry.
It would be easier just to make it un-constitutional to Lobby! :)
I do however agree that reference disks are handy and can speed up your file
searches for certain matter. Haven't seen one in regards to firearms
though. Sorry.
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From: CHRIS WISE Number: 4115
To: JOSEPH THOMAS Date: 09/27/93 11:13a
Subj: Os/2 mitsumi driver Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Joseph Thomas wrote
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>> Right you are, It has no audio, but the audio-upgrade is
>> being made available now. None of the BETA version should work.
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Is there any bulletin board that carries this file, I can not find it
here locally...
Lee Christopher Wise
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From: CHRIS WISE Number: 4116
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 09/27/93 11:13a
Subj: National telephone direct Refer: NONE
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Jim Lambert wrote
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>>I have one unopened set of Prophone 1993 available for $69 plus
>>shipping. It is a 7 disc set including the business and residential
>>versions. Give me a call if you are interested.
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Do you still have this available, if so I will take it...
Lee Christopher Wise
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From: CHRIS WISE Number: 4117
To: ALL Date: 09/27/93 11:13a
Subj: looking for the Res/busin Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Looking for the Prophone Residential/Business CD rom if you have it
(either 3 or 7 then let me know)....
Lee Christopher Wise
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From: SHON STERLING Number: 4118
To: ROB PERELMAN Date: 09/27/93 9:00p
Subj: Re: FREE CATALOG Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Rob Perelman to All <=-
Yea, Send me a Copy of the catalog
Shon Sterling
Box 3162
Arnold, CA 95223
Thanks alot
... This tagline is SHAREWARE! To register, send me $10
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From: DAAN VAN.ROOIJEN Number: 4119
To: ALL Date: 09/25/93 1:02p
Subj: How much to cut own CD? Refer: NONE
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A relation of mine is considering publishing his own monthly or bi-monthly
CD-ROM. It will contain app 100 MB of data which will be supplied to the
producer on floppy disks. He will need app 1,000 copies per CD-ROM.
Could someone in the industry give me an indication of what this might cost?
I'd like to know the approximate fixed costs (mastering etc), the costs of
1,000 copies of this master (just the disks, no jewel boxes etc), and the cost
of each additional copy. Also, what would those prices look like if he commits
himself to doing this 6 or 12 times a year? Finally, how long would production
of each batch of disks take?
Thank you! I can be reached on Fido 2:512/1.2 or preferably CIS 100121,1562.
-Daan-
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From: VINCENT FERNANDEZ Number: 4120
To: LAURENT MADURAUD Date: 09/22/93 9:31p
Subj: demos Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
suite«...
j'ai essaye amnesia : bôôfff !
a +
FDS International ( euh ?)
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4121
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/20/93 9:35p
Subj: COVER CD 'PC MAG' Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BF>>Most CD-ROMs probably take a lot less disc changing than audio CD drives do
BF>>and experience during something like ten years demonstrates that this simpl
BF>is
BF>>NOT a problem.
BF>My First Generation Hitachi audio player has NEVER had a problem with it's
Hey! I'll bet it's like the one I've got... nice aqua fluo readout of
track/index etc... but mine's in storage back in Texas (sigh).
BF>motorised door - and I've had the thing over 10 years now, and put on the
BF>average at LEAST 6 discs a day into it - 20 to 30 discs on a few days....
Yup. No reason at all to presume that something like that is going to
wear out all that fast. The people that were dumb enough to buy
drives requiring caddies are now trying to justify their mistake, that's
all, by grasping at straws to explain why they ought to pay an extra $5
for every disc they buy.
Actually, I'll grant that caddies MIGHT be interesting for two or maybe
three types of utilization.
ONE: People who plan to let their preschool kids shove caddies in and
out. (But heck, kids can be taught to play audio CDs without caddies,
can't they?).
TWO: Use in a car, where you shouldn't take your eyes off the road.
THREE: In a CD-ROM changer, where you MIGHT want to be able to load a
cartridge containing several discs as a set (as the Pioneer does), or
even a large set of 50 or more discs (like that German changer does).
For the normal user, caddies have NO interest sufficient to justify the
hassle and the expense.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4122
To: TAPANI TUOMINEN Date: 09/20/93 9:42p
Subj: I want caddies Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TT>GP> TT>I just checked several of my fonts for curiosity and all of them
TT>GP> worked perfectly well with European special characters and still they
TT>GP> came with US-versions of software
TT>GP> A lot of people will strip out the accented characters (if they ever
TT>GP> them) to reduce the bulk of the fonts. Most Americans, after all, w
TT>GP> NEVER use those accented characters... and in (for example) the case
TT>GP> HP laserjet soft fonts, you generally load the WHOLE font into the
TT>GP> printer's (limited) memory.
TT>How do you strip out certain characters?
There are shareware programs to do this. (In fact, I've already written
programs myself for HP format SoftFonts that are capable of doing this).
TT>Even Americans need foreign
TT>characters (for them) once in a while for example when writing some names
TT>of foreign origin.
You can always write foreign names and addresses within the normal ASCII
character set, and they get delivered just fine. Even to places where
the native language isn't written with roman-alphabet characters at all.
TT>GP> ARGH! This awful, stupid cr*p of Windows and its non-compatible
TT>GP> character set mapping junk again rears its ugly head. I should have
TT>GP> guessed. :-(((
TT>No, no you got me wrong! It was problem with DOS-characters, everything
TT>works smooth and nicely otherwise under Windows. :-D
Yeah, as long as EVERYBODY AND EVERYTHING runs under Windows forever.
:-( Which simply isn't the case.
TT>GP> There are hundreds of caddyless CD drives in the world for each one
TT>GP> needs a caddy. If we as a buying public will simply REFUSE to buy
TT>GP> caddy-based drives, we can eliminate this divisive and nonstandard c
TT>GP> from the market. Just as we've gone a long way towards eliminating
TT>GP> copy-protection from mainstream software products.
TT>But unfortunately consumers are divided in this question very badly.;-)
No, they aren't. If you look at audio CD drives, basically none of them
(except in the automobile market) use caddies. And that is by FAR the
largest population of CD drives worldwide. Those computer CD-ROM drives
which use caddies are a _miniscule_ percentage of the total.
TT>Now what kind of campaign could we have against European software
TT>prices...
Again, it's simple. If people simply REFUSE TO BUY, the vendors will
(eventually, but finally) take the hint. If you keep buying stuff
that's stupid or overpriced, you're just encouraging them to give you
more of the same.
TT>GP> They will become a smaller percentage of the market, if not eventual
TT>GP> disappear completely.
TT>I saved your message. We can get back on the topic in the year 2000 and
TT>check how much caddies are around.
Yup... do that! :-)
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4123
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 09/20/93 11:57p
Subj: CD SALES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BJ>Interesting. Another reply had it 5:1 in favor of sysops. Part of what
BJ>originally sparked the discussion was the fact that more and more CDs
BJ>(of all types) are coming with increasingly sophisticated front-ends -
BJ>like SHOWOFF on BB3 - which have little/no value to sysops. At the same
BJ>time, there is a concomitant increase in interest for having "FILES.BBS"
BJ>(or whatever) on new CDs. Clearly the producers are trying to please
BJ>both markets.
Frankly, I _hate_ those "fancy front-ends" and menuing systems, and
NEVER use them on shareware discs. Why? Because I _already_ have
something like twenty or thirty CD-ROMs, the bulk of them containing
shareware, and there is NO way I'm going to bring up as many as thirty
different front-end menuing and data access programs (all of them
different and with a different user interface) to try to find out which
disc has the program or driver or whatever that I'm looking for on it.
What I _want_ is a simple way that I can keep (on my hard drive) a
unified files directory for ALL my shareware CD-ROMs, with the file
descriptions keyword-searchable, to help me quickly find out if I have
somewhere a file or program to do what I need to do.
At the moment, the closest thing to this that I've found is to import
the CD-ROM FILES.BBS type descriptions into my Robocomm Downloaded Files
database, using the CD-ROM name as the "BBS name", and searching there
using its keyword search facility. I also use my own GEPKAT Disk
Cataloguing System as a way of quickly finding which CD-ROM in my
collection has an archive file containing a given file I'm looking for.
Version 2 of GEPKAT will have a lightning-fast keyword search facility
within file descriptions, so at that point I will perhaps be able to
retire Robocomm, at least as far as that function goes (mine won't be
probably any better functionally, but it will be a LOT faster).
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4124
To: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS Date: 09/21/93 12:12a
Subj: In-200 Vs. Adaptec Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JD>Under a novell network, I would strongly recommend someone think twice befo
JD>getting an IN-2000 card. The cards do not work well with the ASPI driver th
JD>Always Tech has.
I've got two of these cards running quite happily in Novell servers,
both here right beside me and at one of my clients. I'd take you up on
your offer, except that I already have a spare one on the shelf as it
is. :-))
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4125
To: JAMES WILLIAMS Date: 09/21/93 12:17a
Subj: Mitsumi CD-ROM Audio Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JW>I have just bought a Mitsumi CD-Rom drive Model LU005U, this is there
JW>latest High Speed Drive. I'm happy with it but am having trouble with
JW>the audio. I can get audio from the front mounted headphone jacks but by
JW>connecting the drive to my sound card (a plain Sound Blaster) with the
JW>cable that came with the sound card and then running the out put of the
JW>sound card to my stero amp, I don't get sound.
Common problem. The socket on the SoundBlaster card is wired backwards.
To work around the problem, use a pin or needle to carefully lift the
locking tab on each of the terminals of the cable's connector, one at a
time. Swap inner-to-outer wires on each side of the connector (so
signal swaps with ground on each side). You'll find that everything
works great.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4126
To: ALL Date: 09/21/93 12:18a
Subj: Mitsumi and DOS 6.0? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I had one guy tell me that the Mitsumi drive has some kind of problem or
special configuration required or something to run under MS-DOS 6.0.
Anyone aware of this? Is he right? What's the scoop, guys?
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4127
To: LANGSTON GOLDFINCH Date: 09/21/93 12:21a
Subj: Natnl Telephone Directory Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LG>7 disk CDRom set - All phone numbers in USA, completely indexed- NOT the sho
LG>2 disk un-indexed set that sells for $99.
I've got the 3-disc set, and I'm curious what additional index the
7-disc set comes with to make it worth the hassle of searching seven
discs instead of just two! (The only thing I've found patently wrong is
that a lot of the business entries are missing the city name from their
listing).
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4128
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/21/93 12:33a
Subj: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
Regarding your proposed changes to this echo:
1) I am opposed to the removal of adult material. You know as well as
anyone that CD-ROMs as a media would not be where they are without
those discs as a motivator to buy a drive.
2) Removal of CD-ROM ads (and the discussion about them) will result in
this echo being just about useless to those of us here in Europe.
If that double-whammy is done, I'll ask the sysops over here to drop
this echo and carry the adult and CD-ROM for sale echos instead.
I hope you'll reconsider... you're trying real hard to kill this
conference.
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From: MARK RICHARDSON Number: 4129
To: ALL Date: 09/24/93 8:22p
Subj: WC2 cd Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have been looking everywhere for Wing Commander 2 Deluxe on CD-ROM for a
good price.. Is any one or business here selling it? BTW: it is the one
with Special Ops 1,2 and the speech pack, NOT the one with Ultima 6.
Mark
>> Mark
... "Energize!" said Kirk, and a pink bunny appeared.
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From: BYRON WELLS Number: 4130
To: TONY STOTT Date: 09/27/93 5:19p
Subj: Re: Home Addresses Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Exactly why I spend a mere $35 per year on a Post Office Box.....Well worth
the money to keep yer stuff in yer own house...
Byron...
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From: SAM BECKWITH Number: 4131
To: ALL Date: 09/27/93 7:44p
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DFW Discount Electronics 09/27/93 Orders: 800-829-0331
BBS: 214-259-4188 Local : 214-254-0331
NIGHT OWL 10 (10/93, BBS Ready)..............................$32.00
NIGHT OWL BUSINESS ROM (8/93, BBS Ready).....................$30.00
NIGHT OWL GAMES ROM (10/93, BBS Ready).......................$22.00
NIGHT OWL GRAPHICS ROM (8/93, BBS Ready).....................$27.00
SHAREWARE EXPLORER (9/93, BBS Ready) 4 CD combo..............$45.00
SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3 (7/93, BBS Ready)........................$25.00
SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD (9/93,BBS Ready)FILES.BBS & SFFILES.BBS..$24.00
■ CmpQwk #UNREG■ UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY
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From: SCOTT WILKINS Number: 4132
To: FRIED FREDDY Date: 09/28/93 3:07a
Subj: Time Bank Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi! just wanted to let you know I couldn't access the Time Bank. Tried twice
and nothing. Hope eveything comes back soon! Thanx!
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From: JOHN ALSTON Number: 4133
To: ALL Date: 09/28/93 12:00a
Subj: New Here! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello,
I'm John Alston of the Vulcan-Net BBS. I'm new here and want to
know do you discuss only computer CD-ROM's for data-sake or all CD-
ROM's, i.e. Multi-Media???
Thanx in advance, Peace!
JA
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From: ALAN KANTOR Number: 4134
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/28/93 9:57a
Subj: Re: Catalogs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Richard Mccarty summoned these runes before the eyes of Adrian Salas
-=> Quoting Adrian Salas to All <=-
AS> If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave
AS> your mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
I would like one of your catalogs. Thanks!
Alan Kantor
28A Reading Road
Edison, N.J. 08817
... Too much infinity.
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From: JOHN WILKINSON Number: 4135
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/28/93 3:22p
Subj: Night owl 9 cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> >DP=>Does anyone have Night Owl 9 CDROM for sale? I am looking for a
-> >cop DP=>
-> >DAn Got some, 32.00 +s/h. Shipped Priority mail.
-> >SEND Check/Money Order Payable to: Adrian Salas
-> >Please include $5.00 shipping up to 3 CDs Add .50 for each addition.
-> >CA Residents add 7.75% Sales tax.
-> >S.D. ROM CONNECTION 2434 East 32nd Street,
-> >National City, CA 91950-7710
-> >Questions/Orders 619-479-8688 10:am to 7:pm.
-> ---------------------------------------------
-> > ■ QMPro 1.51 ■ ROM CONNECTION CD-SALES Voice 619-479-8688 10am-7pm
-> >--- WM v2.09/93-0044
-> > * Origin: SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION "Your CD-ROM Shop!" (1:202/1705)
-> >322/327
-> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
-> You Can Call List Below... Yes They Have Night Owl 9.0 39.95..
->
-> CMS SOFTWARE DISTRIBUTTING
-> P.O.Box 165
-> SEELYVILLE,IN 47878 VOICE 1-812-442-0110 9am to 9pm cst
-> (ORDERS ONLY) 1-800-768-7929
->
-> Tell Them That John Wilkinson Has Sent You to Them...
->
-> Thank You,
->
-> Most Of Adult CD are BBS Ready...
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From: JOHN WILKINSON Number: 4136
To: KEVIN PLUMMER Date: 09/28/93 3:23p
Subj: Re: Night owl 9 cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> >On 25 Sep 93 10:17:00, I heard Dan Polivy shout to All:
-> >DP> Does anyone have Night Owl 9 CDROM for sale? I am looking for a
-> >cop
-> >DP>
-> >DP> DAn
-> >Night Owl 9.0 is $25.00
-> >Call 1-800-638-5757
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-> ------------------------------------------------
->
-> CALL CMS SOFTWARE 1-800-768-7929 ORDERS ONLY
-> 1-812-442-0110 INFOMATION
-> BBS READY!! Tell Them That John Wilkinson
-> Has Sent You...!!
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From: RON FINDLING Number: 4137
To: TINA ROCK Date: 09/26/93 4:14a
Subj: Re: Os/2 Cd-Rom Support Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Beggin your pardon sir, but how can a CD-ROM drive be non-SCSI?
Simply put, many popular CD-ROM drives use proprietary interfaces,
often going through a sound card like the Soundblaster Pro...
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4138
To: PETER BOSKOS Date: 09/27/93 11:18p
Subj: FIREARMS REFERENCE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Peter,
Two of the Firearm's Reference would be $60 + s/h. Please add $13 for
insured Airmail shipping, or $7.50 for non-insured Airmail small packet
shipping. We accept all major credit cards. More order info below.
Thanks,
.\\ike
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4139
To: TANYA BROCK Date: 09/27/93 11:18p
Subj: Giga Games Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
KP>TB> Has anyone seen a CDROM called GIGA GAMES? I saw it advertised in the
KP>TB> latest issue of PC Magazine. It was in an ad from Walnut Creek so I
KP>TB> would assume that they produced it. Any info would be appreciated and
KP>TB> if anyone was it cheaper than the $39.95 it was advertised for I would
KP>TB> be interested to hear from you.
KP>Yes, Free Spirit Software has it for $ 19.00
And Starvector Software has it for $16.00
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4140
To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN Date: 09/27/93 11:18p
Subj: CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MS>-> >>MS:> ProPhone 1993 7-disc set 50 37
MS>-> >>MS:> American Business Phonebook 25 19
MS>-> ----------------------------------------
MS>->
MS>-> How do I order these two? You take plastic
MS>Yes, we take VISA or Mastercard! We've sold out those two at that
MS>price, but we can order more in at the regular price if you're
MS>interested. Drop us a line at 306-789-4654.
Hi cutie! Hey, I told you these were priced too low! You could have
sold 'em for twice that and you would have had enough to buy me that steak
dinner you promised! 8) (just kidding, Vince) BTW: Thanks for the
autographed BB. Came thru without a scratch. Hope yours got there OK.
Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4141
To: STEWART ROTHMAN Date: 09/27/93 11:18p
Subj: CD TITLES WANTED Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SR>I'm interested in several CD titles I saw advertised in CRAZY BOB'S (Div
SR>of
SR>ERM) in a mailer newspaper-type flyer. I've called their 800 number,
SR>but get a
SR>wierd recording. Anyhow, does anyone selling CD's here have
SR>these titles and
SR>at what prices? I want the following:
Stu,
We have the indicated CD's in stock at the following prices: SVS
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SR>Complete Home and Office Legal Guide.......$15.00 13.00
SR>USA Wars - Korea........................... 39.00 29.00
SR>Mayo Clinic................................ 39.00 28.00
SR>Street Atlas USA........................... 99.00 86.00
SR>CD Caddies, 10 @$5.50...................... 55.00 4.99 ea.
SR>I would expect to pay a small charge for shipping, payment will be by
SR>MasterCard. All are for DOS Machine and should be the latest versions.
We do accept Mastercard, and shipping is $4 up to 5 pieces, + 50-cents
for each piece over 5. Feel free to call our toll-free number if you
wish to order.
Thanks,
.\\ike
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4142
To: DAN POLIVY Date: 09/27/93 11:18p
Subj: Night owl 9 cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DP>Does anyone have Night Owl 9 CDROM for sale? I am looking for a copy.
Dan,
In stock at $25! Also, we're now accepting pre-orders for Night Owl 10
at $35. Give me a call if you're interested.
Later,
.\\ike
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4143
To: MICHAEL MULCAHY Date: 09/27/93 11:18p
Subj: NEW FIREARMS CD! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MM> MS> | Starvector Sales Bulletin #6: HOT NEW CD-ROM! | | Title:
MM> MS> FIREARMS REFERENCE Price: $30 |
MM> MS>
MM> MS> * Features over 600 products from 70 different manufacturers *
MM> MS> 256-color hi-rez images * BBS-Ready in several formats *
MM> MS> Custom-designed Super-VGA interface * Covers every firearm from black
MM> MS> powder rifles, to Class 3 weapons
MM>Is this one MAC compatable Mike?
No, just DOS.
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4144
To: ALL Date: 09/27/93 11:18p
Subj: STREET ATLAS 2.0 IS HERE! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
| Starvector Sales Bulletin #6: HOT NEW CD-ROM! |
| Title: STREET ATLAS v 2.0 Price: $95 |
Street Atlas 2.0 is a complete street map of the entire U.S. on a
single CD-ROM! You can zoom in on every city, town, or rural area in
the country - right down to the smallest backroads. The database gives
you instant access to more than 12 million street segments!
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4145
To: ALL Date: 09/27/93 11:18p
Subj: NEW OS/2 CD! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
We are now taking pre-orders on the following title.
Title: CD OS/2BOX Price: $29
* Slick, mouse-driven graphic user interface for OS/2
* Consists of 100% OS/2 2.0+ shareware applications. No old version
1.x files * Fully BBS-ready * 300+mb total
* To begin shipping around 1st week in October * FREE s/h on preorders
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 4146
To: ALL Date: 09/28/93 8:21a
Subj: CD's\For Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello All!
Microsoft Small Business Consultant & Micresoft Stat Pack
Microsoft Bookshelf Dos Version
These two cd's aren't doing me any good but thought maybe some one may want to
trade me for them, will sell them if you perfer.
512-939-9822
Pat
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 4147
To: BILL JONES Date: 09/28/93 6:49p
Subj: CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Bill!
I got the cd's in the mail today, thanks for a quick turn around. If you have
any more just let me know, like doing business with someone I can trust!
Pat
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 4148
To: MIKE PELLETIER Date: 09/27/93 6:13a
Subj: CD-ROM: writing to them Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MP>Does anyone know where I could get files (presently on my hard drive) writte
MP> to CD-ROM? I am pretty sure I would have to pay some professional, do you
MP> know who might offer this service?
There is a man in this echo that does. If he didn't see you message, you
should his. Pretty reasonable I think.
l8r,
Henry
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From: DONNIE RAYNOR Number: 4149
To: ALL Date: 09/27/93 6:09p
Subj: Mitsumi CD-DRIVE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have a Mutsumi drive LU005S for sell. It has about two hours of run time
on it. With manual, software, controller card and drive in box. I will ship
to you for $165.00 I need a double speed drive.
If interested leave me a message here.
... It's a dog eat dog world and I'm wearing ALPO underwear!
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From: RICH RUBIN Number: 4150
To: GENE EHRICH Date: 09/27/93 5:29p
Subj: Encarta... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Gene,
Thank you for your reply about my selling my own copy of Encarta by
Microsoft. I am selling it for $105 but you offered $35. You mentioned
that you can get this cd for a few dollars more than I'm selling it for?
Really? Can you tell me where? I know you aren't going to answer this
but it really bothers me that someone would reply to a message and not
have anything good to say... If you didn't want the cd, then pass on
it! By responding publicly that I'm trying to sell a cd for more than
I should, you are implying that I'm trying to 'steal' from someone else.
Is that what you are implying? If I'm asking to much, than noone will
by it. This is the way it works. Encarta is currently selling at
CompUSA for $279!!! [As of yesterday 9/26/93] In the future if you
don't have anything good to type, KEEP YOUR FINGERS OFF THE KEYBOARD!!!!
I see your type of person here and on other bases. They always see
something for cheaper somewhere else and feel they have to tell an
international base with out backing it up as to where and when they sawy
the cheaper item. MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!!!!
I'm really sorry to everyone else here but this type of stuff really,
realy irks me!!
Rich
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From: JEFF NEWMAN Number: 4151
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/28/93 7:36p
Subj: Re: L.A. STRIPPERS CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
......
NB> Forth, and perhaps most importantly, I would like to explain my post
NB> regarding "L.A. Strippers". Although this CD-ROM contains "explicit
NB> nudity" it is NOT RATED. It is not just a f-flick transferred to CD-ROM!
......
NB> I posted this announcement to let the local users know that if they were
NB> interested in this product they could purchase it from me for $44.95,
NB> after October 1, 1995 the price goes up to around $75.00.
^^^^
Neil, is 1995 the correct date? 1995 seems a long way away. 1993 is here
almost. Also, how is it interactive? thanks
-Jeff NOPCCCC
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From: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS Number: 4152
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/28/93 11:27a
Subj: In-200 Vs. Adaptec Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GP> JD>getting an IN-2000 card. The cards do not work well with the ASPI
What bothers me is that the outside of the package says it's novell labs
tested and approved, yet once you open it up, you find that that the drivers
are available from there BBS, and are beta copies. Novell does mark beta
drivers as tested and approved, so I feel they were pulling a fast one. Add
to that fact that the Coral SCSI that came with the card, will not work with
the drivers that are included with the card. I just got sick of the server
crashing every day or two just because I wanted to add CD-roms to my network.
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From: KD4QZZ HARRY Number: 4153
To: JAMES WILLIAMS Date: 09/27/93 7:11a
Subj: MITSUMI CD-ROM AUDIO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JW>connecting the drive to my sound card (a plain Sound Blaster) with the cabl
JW>that came with the sound card and then running the out put of the sound card
Had the same problem, the pins are reversed between the Mitsumi card and
the Soundblaster (I suspect that plain Soundblaster is actually the
Soundblaster Pro). I was able to work around it by smashing the plastic
key on the Soundblaster and plugging in the cable upside down. I don't
know if that has crossed left and right or not, figure there's a 50-50
chance, so it likely did, but I'm not going to worry about it until I
come across something where it would matter.
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 4154
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/27/93 12:20p
Subj: Reviews of Adult CDs Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
The now somewhat relaxed rules/guidelines in this echo regarding adult
CDs notwithstanding, I think I'll keep my reveiws of adult CDs over in
the "for sale" echo. I realize that not everyone who gets that echo gets
this one, and perhaps vice-versa. Nonetheless, if someone here who
doesn't get/read the "for sale" echo wants them, they can download or
freq them from this BBS (see address below). The file names are (or will
be when I get them all OCR-ed) as follows:
BUSTY_R3.ZIP Busty Babes V.1/R.3
PORK_2.ZIP Pork-Ware II
TA_MAXX.ZIP T&A to the MAXX
S_BEAUTY.ZIP Southern Beauties
STARE.ZIP STAREware
EROTIC_2.ZIP Erotic Encounters 2
VIVID_1.ZIP Girls of Vivid - V.1
PGG1.ZIP PGG1
D_DREAMS.ZIP Digital Dreams
PORK_1.ZIP Pork-Ware I
DATABASE.ZIP WK1 S/S xref database of GIF names
They'll be in the Text/Magazine directory. With your permission, I'll
post only a short announcement message when new reviews are added to the
list. Please let me know.
... RAM DISK is NOT an installation procedure!
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From: LANGSTON GOLDFINCH Number: 4155
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/28/93 2:30p
Subj: Natnl Telephone Directory Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Gordon!
21 Sep 93, Gordon Peterson writes to Langston Goldfinch:
LG>> 7 disk CDRom set - All phone numbers in USA, completely indexed- NOT the
LG>> sho 2 disk un-indexed set that sells for $99.
GP> I've got the 3-disc set, and I'm curious what additional index the
GP> 7-disc set comes with to make it worth the hassle of searching seven
try finding the numbers on your block-
Regards
Langston
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From: PATRICK MCCORMICK Number: 4156
To: CD-ROM DIST. Date: 09/25/93 8:18p
Subj: I'm selling Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm looking for a CD-Rom dist. to supply me over here in Guam. Right now
there is NO PLACE on the Island to buy CD's there are a lot of places
that sell the drives but no CD's.
If you would like to be my supplier to an area that has NEVER had this
PLEASE send you price list to...
Patrick McCormick
75 Plumeria St.
New Apra Santa, Gu
96915-0000
Thanks and I look forward to hearing from a lot of you..
Patrick..
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From: CHRIS JENKS Number: 4157
To: GARY MCGEE Date: 09/26/93 10:59p
Subj: Re: UltraStor 14F Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Gary,
The Technical assistance number for Ultrastor Corp. is (714) 581-4100.
If you find out the number for their BBS please return the favor.
Thanks,
Chris
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 4158
To: ROB PERELMAN Date: 09/25/93 10:53a
Subj: FREE CATALOG Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RP>My uncle is selling 100-200 CD titles and he is offering a free catalog
RP>to anyone who has a CD Rom drive. That's right...FREE!! All you have
RP>to do is send me your name and address or your fax number and he will
RP>mail you a free catalog by mail or fax - YOUR CHOICE!!! Just respond
RP>privately in this conference or net mail me at 1:202/344.1 with your
RP>information (CD Rom drive type not needed) and we will get it out to you
I'll take one!
Henry Paul
1914 N.E. Crestview Pl.
Newport, OR. 97365
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 4159
To: LEE WINSOR Date: 09/26/93 11:20a
Subj: Shareware Explorer Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LW>For your benefit as well as other Sysops who purchase the Shareware
>Explorer, there is another glitch that we were just informed of.
>On DOS Explorer Volumes #1 & #3, (but not on the other volumes),
>the FILES.BBS for directory \A036 is duplicated in directory \A037.
Hi Lee. I am a CD-Rom dealer, and I found Shareware Explorer to be the
best multiple disc shareware collection to date. However, I was just
informed of the licensing agreement that is required to run it on a BBS.
Why on earth would you guys make such an outrageous requirement for
sysops to agree to? Several participants, including dealers, on
CircuitNet refuse to have anything to do with Shareware Explorer due to
this licensing agreement. I strongly recommend rethinking your stand on
this issue if you desire to compete in this market. Thank you.
Jim...
Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 4160
To: MIKE GRIFFIN Date: 09/26/93 11:25a
Subj: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MG=>Do you take major credit cards?
Computer Works accepts Visa & Mastercard. If you will send me your
address, I'd be glad to mail you our latest catalog of over 600 titles.
Computer Works Jim...
CD-Rom Sales!
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 4161
To: TANYA BROCK Date: 09/26/93 12:25p
Subj: Giga Games Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TB> Has anyone seen a CDROM called GIGA GAMES? I saw it advertised in the
>latest issue of PC Magazine. It was in an ad from Walnut Creek so I
>would assume that they produced it. Any info would be appreciated and
>if anyone was it cheaper than the $39.95 it was advertised for I would
>be interested to hear from you.
Hi Tanya. How does $18 grab you? <G> If you would like a copy of our
latest catalog, send me your address or give us a call. The catalog can
also be downloaded from our BBS. Thanks.
Computer Works Jim...
CD-Rom Sales!
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 4162
To: DAAN VAN.ROOIJEN Date: 09/29/93 7:17p
Subj: How much to cut own CD? Refer: 6599
Read: NO Private: No
-> Could someone in the industry give me an indication of what this migh
-> I'd like to know the approximate fixed costs (mastering etc), the cos
Give me a call & I'll clue you in on the exact process...
tim
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From: MARC CIRCOSTA Number: 4163
To: ROBERT POWELL Date: 09/26/93 7:35p
Subj: PANASONIC CR562B Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-21-1993, ROBERT POWELL wrote...
RP> It is easy to present
RP> "what if" arguments that on the surface seem to have merit. It is
RP> not always so easy to support those arguments with facts. You might
RP> argue that you have never lost a disk using your caddy drive. Big
RP> deal, I have never damaged one and I have never used a caddy drive
RP> except for demos in computer stores. In fact, as I have stated
RP> earlier I have been using music CDs since 1986 and have yet to frag
RP> the first one. And that includes using them in car and portable CD
RP> players. These are conditions much more severe than a computer CDs
RP> are ever likely to experience.
Rob,
Just a note here. With Audio Cd's, it is much harder to razz a disk and make
it unusable, as the music c section of data could be much more devastating,
maybe making the disk uusable.
I too own a non-caddy drive (the Pan 562B), and have no worries about disks
dying on me, as I will always be carefull with these disks, and can see the
points you are raising...
Marc.
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From: TONY STOTT Number: 4164
To: MARLIN ROWLEY Date: 09/28/93 8:05a
Subj: Double-spin Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-24-93, in a colourful display of the English language, Marlin Rowley
said to All:-
MR>Can anyone out there tell me what are the advantages of a double spin
MR>drive in
MR> regards to a single spin drive when you are talking about running
MR>full-motion video that is compressed and plays back at whatever frame
MR>rate? It seems to me that it wouldn't make a difference since the
MR>compression technique allows the CD-ROM (single spin) to playback
MR>frames at a reasonable speed using a data transfer rate of 150k
MR>bytes/sec. With a 300k byte/sec drive wouldn't it still run frame
MR>rates at the same speed? What is the difference between a SEGA CD and
MR>the computer CD's?
MR>
Your theory talks a walk in the real world, as the transfer rate from the
drive to the computer must be greater than the take-up rate of the
computer to avoid ugly pauses in the motion. Some software producers
attempt to overcome this limitation by a combination of two things:
1. Make the video action small (eg less pixels to update in the time
available)
2. run the animation at 15 frames/sec
an example of this technique is Mammals.
An alternative is for the authors to aim for users with better equipment,
such as 7th Guest. This program will only provide smooth pause-free
graphics if the cdrom drive is a double-speed one.
If you are using the drive on a BBS, save your money and buy a cheap
160kb/s drive, if not it's better to aim higher.
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From: TONY STOTT Number: 4165
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/28/93 8:05a
Subj: Xxx Cd's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-21-93, in a colourful display of the English language, Brice
Fleckenstein said to Stewart Rothman:-
BF> Also, the picture quality is often directly comparable to magazine
BF>pictures....
Of course, that's where most of them come from...
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From: DON WEIR Number: 4166
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/27/93 4:13p
Subj: CD list Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I would appreciate a catalog of yours,
P.O. Box 696
MANLY
NSW 2095
AUSTRALIA
thanks.........
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From: DON WEIR Number: 4167
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/27/93 4:15p
Subj: CD Cat.. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please sent a catalog to me ---
P.O. Box 696
MANLY
NSW 2095
AUSTRALIA
thanks...
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4168
To: DAVID HO Date: 09/28/93 12:02a
Subj: Pas16-Scsi Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi David!
On 09-24-93 David Ho wrote to All...
DH> What type of SCSI interface do Pro Audio Spectrum 16 have ? SCSI-I or
DH> SCSI-II?
DH> Assume PAS16 have SCSI-II interface, Can I connect a SCSI-I CD-ROM
DH> drive to it ? Any reply is appreciated.
The Pro Audio Spectrum 16 is SCSI-I
The Pro Audio Studio 16 is (I am informed) SCSI-II...
So the answer to your question is YES!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4169
To: ANDREW SEE Date: 09/28/93 8:20p
Subj: Pro Audio Studio 16Xl Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Andrew!
On 09-26-93 Andrew See wrote to Rowan Evans...
AS> One good thing about FM is that it offers custom sounds. Most
AS> wavetables don't because the patches are stored in ROM. The GUS
AS> however, because it stores patches on the HD, and caches them into
AS> the RAM on the card, can use custom wavetable patches. I sampled a
AS> sneeze the other day, and then Sequenced a song with it...
Well, with the Wave Blaster being a daughter card, I guess that C/L
can come up with "Son of W/B" having onboard RAM?? As I think I said
in earlier msgs, sound is, to me, a secondary consideration at the
moment....
AS> RE> The issue is I don't particularly want to use two slots, one for
AS> RE> CD-ROM control and the other for sound!
AS>
AS> How many have you got? How many do you need? I have seen some
AS> motherboards with 6 slots, here it *may* be an issue. Mine has 8, and
AS> most of the newer VLB jobs have 8ISA + 2VLB slots. What on earth are
AS> you gona put in 10 slots?
Well, I've got 8 on my M/b....
1. SVGA
2. Network
3. IDE/FDD card
4. I/O card
5. SB 16 ASP (& CD-ROM!)..
6. Tape B/u card
7. modem
8. bus mouse
The IDE/FDD is separate to the I/O as the original M/b had timing problems
with serial port interrupts and I never did get a multi I/O to replace it!
(gives 1 free!)....
AS> Also, how many Drives can you daisy chain off the SB? 3 isn't it?
Max of four.... But if you have a SCSI controller with 2 x HDD and tape
backup, then you can only install 4 SCSI CD-ROM drives too!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4170
To: DEBBIE MARANTZ Date: 09/28/93 8:29p
Subj: Drivers Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Debbie!
On 09-25-93 Debbie Marantz wrote to Rowan Evans...
DM> RE> Well, the picture I saw of am OMNI showed it with an 8-bit paddle
DM> RE> card similar to that supplied with my CR562B. I'll have to try and
DM> RE> source a kit so I can check to see what drivers it uses!
DM>
DM> Mention that a "kit" includes a paddle card to Creative and they will
DM> then swear up and down and all around that here on this side of the
DM> pond all their CD Roms are packaged to be only used with the SB's, and
DM> there are no paddle cards to be found. Also, the earlier drivers on
DM> the BBS made reference to the 562b/563, but the later updates now only
DM> mention the 563s. So I guess the marketing department has a little say
DM> in what goes on.
Yeah, well the silly b*ggers let a PICTURE of an OMNI kit loose in a
national newspaper ("The Australian") but didn't mention the kit! If I
wasn't so busy at work I'd go chase one!
Interesting you saying that later drivers only mention the CR563... I
managed (Compuserve) to get SBCD.SYS 4.11 which has a crude encryption
on the device name that it expects back (CR-563XXXX). Maybe C/L are
going to go down the road to ruin that so many others have trod? (If
you didn't buy it from us, we won't let you have the drivers!)...
BTW, the drivers on the local C/L BBS (CR562.ZIP) disappeared after a
few days on the BBS download list!
DM> Also, I have just been playing with the updated SB16 drivers which
DM> now allow dos apps to share the sound resources with windows, but I
DM> have to say that the update is more that a wee bit of a pain to
DM> install (files copy to dir type) and the doc, well, sparse is the
DM> word that comes to mind.
Installing these drivers is on my "to-do" list.... Maybe sometime
before the Sydney Olympics??? <g>
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4171
To: CHRIS MOORE Date: 09/28/93 8:30p
Subj: Health & Safety Cd-Roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Chris!
On 09-24-93 Chris Moore wrote to Rowan Evans...
CM> Hi Rowan
CM>
CM> RE> Snail Mail address is coming via netmail....
CM>
CM> Got it. I'm putting a package in the mail today, including
CM> CDSPEED.ZIP, as well as text information and diskette-based
CM> demos of our CD-ROMs.
Thanx mate, I'll let you know when they arrive!
Cheers!
o
/U\
CM> We're starting to get out of the beer season and heading toward irish
CM> coffee season. The trees are starting to change (i.e. the colour of
CM> the leaves). We had our first "frost warning" last night. It was 2
CM> degrees C when I got up this morning :( . About 17 and sunny now
CM> though. I haven't hauled out the winter clothes yet, but unfortunately,
CM> it won't be long!
I may break out the Swimming costume on the weekend!
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4172
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/28/93 8:33p
Subj: Sony 535 Speedup Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Brice!
On 09-24-93 Brice Fleckenstein wrote to Rowan Evans...
BF> > "What did Adaptec think of the DB-25 connector being used by some
BF> > companies as their SCSI connector rather than the 50pin Centronics
BF> > type connector?".
BF>
BF> > The Adaptec techo's answer was -
BF>
BF> > "Since we've bought Trantor, we think its fine!"
BF>
BF> It's all the fault of the Macintosh anyway - too bad more folks don't
BF> use THAT defacto standard instead of inventing their own pinouts....
Well, Adaptec was sticking with the 50 pin connection via centronics
type plug to supply all pins (separate grounds, etc) and this is the
standard connector for SCSI on some minis....
As for Macs & SCSI..... Phooey!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4173
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/28/93 8:37p
Subj: Panasonic 562b + Sb Mono Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Again Brice!
On 09-24-93 Brice Fleckenstein wrote to Rowan Evans...
BF> > I think its more the speakers than the sound card, as I like to hear
BF> > my Audio CDs fairly *LOUD* and have had a lot of trouble finding a
BF> > set of speakers that will cope!
BF>
BF> Try running the audio output into a good preamp then into a
BF> good Carver amp and feed that into a pair of Infinity QRS or
BF> QLS speakers - THAT should handle your "loud" requirement easily!
BF>
BF> I've seen a couple of bands that used a pair of bridged Crown M600 (2
BF> KILOwatts) amps feeding a pair of Infinity QLS for their STAGE
BF> amp/speaker system....
This sounds good.... Pity that it costs the GNP of a small country to
buy this type of gear....
The thing is that most small speaker systems that say they'll handle the
4 watts or so out of an SB or PAS really won't when you wind the volume
up. I'm sorry I sold a 15W set of DAHW (yes, that is how it was written on
the box) amplified speakers when I left PNG... They would've been *IDEAL*
(and they only cost me 40 bucks!)....
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4174
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/28/93 8:38p
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Again, Again, Brice!
On 09-24-93 Brice Fleckenstein wrote to Rowan Evans...
BF> > There are a lot of people with caddy type CD-ROM drives that appear
BF> > to be insecure enough to have to join in to beat on one guy who says
BF> > *NOT!*....
BF>
BF> Two guys, not just one....
Nice to see we agree on something!
;^)
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4175
To: DAVID HO Date: 09/28/93 8:39p
Subj: Panasonic Cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi David!
On 09-25-93 David Ho wrote to Rowan Evans...
DH> 1cfvg4bhnjx,cn ,.../ nb /l
DH> hdfsgjsghklsdhjfg trrj4ut63p68uop4360436iterw
DH> hjkklfgglkhgfgklhj
I take it this is a personal message, so you have encrypted it!
Just advise me of the key and I'll answer your question on CD-ROMs!
(Or was it off-topic and that's why its encrypted!)... <g>
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4176
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 09/28/93 9:07p
Subj: Re: T7g Help Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Bob!
On 09-25-93 Bob Jackson wrote to Debbie Marantz...
BJ> DM> the market give impressive win bench marks but really fall short
BJ> DM> when used on a dos applications (especially the S3s).
BJ> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
BJ> This is NOT entirely accurate! Call Steve Gibson's BBS (714) 362-8848
BJ> and download his video benchmark results. You'll find that the S3 '805
BJ> blew away everybody in DOS text handling. I use one for Windows and
BJ> DOS both and have no complaints. <EOT>
I won't argue, I'll just say that T7G notes that for S3 based cards
it'll only use MCGA mode.... That one note alone made me decide on an
ATI Graphics Ultra Pro instead of the Diamond Stealth Pro... Later
S3 cards are better than the initial batch, but I have bolted down
results (PC Labs BEnch V7.0) that shows that the S3 cards I have tested
(incl. an 805) are slower than the Cirrus Logic (5624) and ATI (68800)
windows accelerators in doing DOS...
You're happy with your S3, I'm in love with my 68800.... Have you tried
T7G on your system???
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4177
To: CHRIS DONNEGAN Date: 09/28/93 9:10p
Subj: Panasonic Cd No More Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Chris!
On 09-24-93 Chris Donnegan wrote to Kevin Martin...
CD> Oh, I know who they are OK. The reason I found out they were no longer
CD> in the business was due to my calling the Panasonic USA headquarters in
CD> New Jersey to request literature. Today I confirmed what I was told on
CD> Tuesday: Matsushita will no longer manufacture CD-ROM drives for sale
CD> under the Panasonic brand name. They will only be manufacturing drives
CD> under OEM contract for *other* companies. The Panasonic CD-ROM brand
CD> is dead. Remaining units in the market are leftovers or are filtering in
CD> from Singapore.
I'm glad I bought mine from a Panasonic OEM here in Australia then!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4178
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/28/93 9:16p
Subj: Cd-Rom Questions Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
Hi Bob!
On 09-21-93 Bob Hall wrote to Rowan Evans...
BH> RE> Sunny Sydney.......
BH>
BH> Wish I was there this morning. Eating a "bikki" with a tad of
BH> Vegamite, a Cherry Ripe, a hunk of Violet Crumble, a taste of
BH> Billy Tea, and perhaps toward the end of the day, a cold 4F.
BH> If my hands got dirty, I could use that wonderful Sard soap to
BH> wash my hands. AHHHHHhhhhhh for the land of enchantment.....
Ah, a man that sees the beauty of Australia.... When do you migrate??
Seeing as how FICDROM is still on the backbone, you can still moderate
it from Zone 3! <g>
BTW, we tend to drink Tooheys in Sydney... Its only those woosses from
north of the Tweed that drink fourex (rotten sods won our football
championship AGAIN! - Will the Toronto Blue Jays do it again in the
world series??)
BH> BOB
BH> :-)
BH> Guilty of dreaming for only a moment, and not moderating!
This is the stuff dreams are made of! I wont tell if you don't! <g>...
Cheers & Beers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4179
To: ERIC ESKAM Date: 09/28/93 9:18p
Subj: Panasonic Cr-523b Refer: NONE
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Hi Eric!
On 09-21-93 Eric Eskam wrote to Rowan Evans...
EE> RE> OK, its in the mail on Monday 20/09/93.... Coming AIRMAIL....
EE>
EE> Bless you. Any kind of shareware/game/sound/graphics etc.
EE> you were looking for out of the States? Anything non-computer
EE> related (I live right next to Las Vegas)?
How about a couple of showgirls? <g>.....
Seriously, I see a reference later in the echo to a shareware program
that runs under Windows and allows you to print CD-ROM jewel case
inserts... It doesn't seem to have migrated here yet... If you could
find a copy I'd be grateful!....
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4180
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/28/93 9:20p
Subj: Q'S On These New Panason Refer: NONE
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Hi Brice!
On 09-21-93 Brice Fleckenstein wrote to Rowan Evans...
BF> > The only differences listed between the CR562B and the CR503 are :-
BF>
BF> What is the DTR on the CR503 (not the Max rate, the CONTINUOUS rate)?
300Kbps. Poe Lim says he has seen spex for a CR533 (caddy drive) that
goes to 330Kbps...
Cheers!
o
/U\
PS. Reply to your PS in FIHDCONF.... I'd love to read Damia's Children,
but will have to wait until it comes out in paperback... $A35.00 is
a bit much.... BTW have you met the great lady?? I had the privelege
when she was in Australia a few years ago....
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4181
To: RON FINDLING Date: 09/28/93 9:24p
Subj: Re: CD's in the backgrou Refer: NONE
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Hi Ron!
On 09-20-93 Ron Findling wrote to Rowan Evans...
RF> > There is a DOS based CD Player on Night Owl 8 (CDPLAY2.ZIP I
RF> > believe) that operates as a TSR and *DOES* allow you to do other
RF> > things in DOS
RF> > while you're listening to a CD.... I've often used it to play a CD
RF> > while I do my echo mail downloads at 14.4Kbps using telemate 4.00 in
RF> > DOS......
RF>
RF> Unless you've got *great* hardware, though, it'll be quite jumpy when
RF> doing things like disk access.
RF>
RF> One great advantage of OS/2 not many people know about is how it can
RF> multi-thread DOS apps. The INT_DURING_IO setting allows for sound
RF> card interrupts to still be serviced during disk accesses, something
RF> regular DOS is incapable of.
RF>
RF> This means that even on a slower computer one can still do disk access
RF> and still get *smooth* sound for DOS apps.
You miss the point of playing an audio CD under DOS.... the player merely
"starts" the audio CD playing from a selected track and then steps out
of the way... It doesn't provide an interface between the CD-ROM and the
sound card.... The CD plays directly to the sound card using the audio
connector, not via processor and memory....
But yes, a DX2/66 *IS* great hardware!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4182
To: CHRIS DONNEGAN Date: 09/28/93 9:28p
Subj: Not In Windows Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Yo Chris!
On 09-21-93 Chris Donnegan wrote to Rowan Evans...
CD> RE> o
CD> RE> /U\
CD>
CD> Yo! Rowan! I found ya!
CD>
CD> Now that we're not in the Windows conference...I cannot use non-SCSI
CD> drives. I MUST have SCSI interface drives (it's a compulsion).
See your doctor, he can rid you of those nasty things!
CD> Drives will be accessed simultaneously, not sequentially.
OK, so that rules out the Pioneer 6 players.....
CD> I'm lookin' at a stack o' internal drives in a case with SCSI
CD> interface.
CD>
CD> Ideas?
Well, the most cost effective (ie cheap) double speed SCSI CD-ROMS I've
seen are the NEC CDR-55s... 350ms access, 300Kbps tfr rate.... Caddy
though (bummer....)... Look around in this echo for ads from some of the
dealers and see what deals they offer....
Brice'll hate me, but I'd recommend an Adaptec to control these suckers...
(one note - they have REVERSE parity to anything else....)....
Hope this helps!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4183
To: TIM WENAS Date: 09/28/93 9:29p
Subj: Where To Buy Sb16/Mm Upg Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-20-93 Tim Wenas wrote to Rowan Evans...
TW> RE> If all else fails, talk to Creative Pacific (previously
TW> RE> ComputaMart)
TW> RE> in Artarmon. The're the Aussie distributor for this stuff....
TW>
TW> RE> SB CD16 Discovery Kit $A 799.00
TW> RE> SB CD16 Performance Kit $A 999.00
TW> RE> SB CD16 Premium Kit $A1199.00
TW>
TW> RE> The only difference is the number of CD-ROMs in the kits!
TW>
TW> Umm... in this list I have here, the Discovery kit only has a Sound
TW> Blaster Pro 2, while the Perfomance and Premium have Sound Blaster
TW> 16s.
There are Discovery CD8 and Discovery CD16 kits.... CD16 specifies the
SB 16.....
TW> So you mean the Discovery has a Sound Blaster 16? Wow... and I was
TW> gonna buy a Discovery pack with a SBPro 2!...
Yep! See above!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4184
To: TIM WENAS Date: 09/28/93 9:31p
Subj: Buying A Cd-Rom Pack Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Tim!
On 09-22-93 Tim Wenas wrote to Rowan Evans...
TW> RE> I also loved the Labtec CS-550s.... Does anyone know
TW> RE> where to source a set of Labtec CS-550s in Australia???
TW>
TW> I may be getting a CD-ROM drive _very_ soon, hopefully a SB Premium
TW> pack or Discovery. Anyway, I believe I saw a pair of Labtec speakers at
TW> Pacific Microlabs Doncaster, Vic. <I'm not sure if they're the ones
TW> you want>. Ask Pacific Microlab to see if they have any. Personally, I
TW> prefer my own choice of Uniway speakers, though they cost more.
Thanx.... I'll call them!
I didn't mind some Taiwanese Unitone speakers... picked them up in
PNG cheap, but haven't seen a source for them here... (Blew one
away with a plug pack! 8^(....)
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4185
To: TIM WENAS Date: 09/28/93 9:34p
Subj: Q'S On These New Panason Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-23-93 Tim Wenas wrote to Rowan Evans...
TW> Is the CR562B better or worse than the CR563? I believe the 563 is
TW> included with the Creative Labs multimedia kits? At some places they
TW> put a 562(b) in place of a 563, and sell it for about $120 cheaper,
TW> so I imagine the 563 is better???
Same drive, different source (CR563 is C/L OEM model #)....
TW> RE> Believe CR503 as the 300Kbps, 320ms avg acess, motorised tray
TW> RE> loading SCSI-2 Panasonic CD-ROM drive.... I have a photocopy
TW> RE> of the spex here and there are only minor differences between
TW> RE> the two....
TW>
TW> Hmm.. and so the 563 is 300KB/s, 350ms access but _not_ SCSI at all?
TW> So it seems that a 503 (never heard of that version b4) is bettre than
TW> a 562B and a 563?
I haven't actually used a CR503 (released around Christmastime), but all
my current benchmarks on SCSI CD-ROM drives have them as SLOWER than the
CR562b/CR563....
TW> Geez, all these numbers are *really* confusing to me! (and I don't
TW> even have a CD-ROM drive yet!):~>
Cheer up! It gets worse when you *DO* have one!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4186
To: TIM WENAS Date: 09/28/93 9:39p
Subj: Cl Sbpro16/Cd-Rom Combo Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-22-93 Tim Wenas wrote to Rowan Evans...
TW>
TW> RE> Bought a PAS-16 and NEC CDR-55 at the same time (the CDR-55 is
TW> RE> also a double speed/Photo CD drive) and must state that it cost
TW> RE> as much for the PAS16/CDR-55 bare (no CDs) as it did for the
TW> RE> entire CL kit and, as its SCSI, its not as fast.... The
TW> RE> PAS16/CDR-55 is still a good combo (it
TW> RE> doesn't experience the "voice breakups" that occur to an SB in
TW> RE> T7G), but as you say, it costs more for less.....
TW>
TW> Hmm.... the PAS16 kit is not fast, and costs more for less? I was
TW> looking through a paper, and found PAS16, Philips CD-ROM (not
TW> NEC CDR) photo-cd ready (but I don't know about double-speed), Labtec
TW> speakers and 5 CDs including Comptons MPC encyclopedia for $790, which
TW> seems quite good! I'm seriously considering this kit after finding out
TW> more about the drive. (has to be double-speed!:)
The Philips drive is only single speed.... PC world had a "review" of
one a few months ago..... And the PAS16 in this kit is *NOT* the SCSI
PAS16 so you can't update just the CD-ROM drive (unless someone markets
a SONY AT-bus double speed drive)....
I had a PAS16/SONY CDU-31A... I was happy with the intro it gave me to
CD-ROMs, etc.... I was happier to sell it and buy another SB16 ASP/CR562B!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4187
To: TOM BULUM Date: 09/28/93 9:41p
Subj: Re: Panasonic CD drive Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Tom!
On 09-22-93 Tom Bulum wrote to Rowan Evans...
TB> RE> Haven't seen the SBPCD_V2.SYS driver.... I'll have to logon to the
TB> RE> Creative Pacific BBS and see if its there.... What does it say about
TB> RE> the CD-ROM drives it supports? The older SBPCD.SYS did not work with
TB> RE> the CR-562B/CR563 drives (so Steve Harrington told me!).....
TB>
TB> it says that is supports SCD-521C/SCD-531C. From this I assume it
TB> doesn't support the CR-562B/CR563 drives. It's 11841 bytes uncompressed.
And you're using it with a CR562b?? RUN, don't walk, to Compuserve and
download the latest SBCD.SYS Version 4.11..... Its 13,000 odd bytes
when uncompressed!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4188
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/28/93 9:45p
Subj: Re: Panasonic Cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Boris!
On 09-23-93 Boris Osadciw wrote to Rowan Evans...
BO> BO>> )))))))))))))))))) P A N A S O N I C 5 6 2 ((((((((((((((((((((
BO> BO>> The ALL NEW Panosonic 562 is here and ready for delievery!!
BO> BO>> 340ms access time / 300kps transfer rate
BO> >> ^^^
BO> >> Why then does my manual for the above-mentioned CD-ROM drive
BO> >> say 320ms in double speed mode?? <g>
BO>
BO> Well, lets see.....I have two manuals here in front of me....one say's
BO> 340ms average access time, while the other say's 320ms average access
BO> time.
I thought I'd seen you advertise this drive at 320ms, So I thought I'd
slip this one in to see if you were awake! <g>
BO> Both manuals seem to have the same publishing date and both unit's, I
BO> pulled the manuals out of were dated 1993. Best quess would be to split
BO> the diffrence and say thier 330ms average access time.....grin -:)
BO>
BO> Have no idea as to why one say's one thing and the other states
BO> something else, I didn't print the books.....grin -:)
Yeah, well don't freak if you read a CR563 manual from C/L.... their spex
on access times are stuffed up but good! They list the double speed access
at 450ms and the single speed access at 350ms.... Its actually the other
way around!
Cheers!
o
/U\
PS I'm breathlessly awaiting your 0014 service! <g>
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From: RUSSELL HARDIE Number: 4189
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/28/93 6:31p
Subj: CD-ROM Analyzor Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
................
SHAREWARE CD-ROM DUPLICATION COMPARISONS
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Using Bob Neal's "CD-ROM DUPLICATE ANALYZER" v 1.0
PR1 = PIER1 PR2 = PIER2 NO7 = NIGHT OWL 7
SS1 = SHAREWARE STUDIO 1 SS2 = SHAREWARE STUDIO 2 NO8 = NIGHT OWL 8
SC2 = SUPER CD 2 SV1 = SOFTWARE VAULT CDP = CD POWERBOX
SWO = SHAREWARE ONLINE MON = MONSTER DISC
% OF DUPLICATE FILES AMONG POPULAR SHAREWARE CD'S
---------------------------------------------------
>> Note: Diagonal reflects % of INTERNAL dupes within a given CD. <<
PR1 PR2 NO7 NO8 SS1 SS2 MON SC2 SV1 CDP SWO
SS2| 7.2%| 2.5%| 7.4%| 7.0%| .16%| .01%|14.8%|11.3%| 4.7%| 7.2%| 7.1%|
+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
............ etc etc
Hi Mike,
A while ago (like mid July), you posted this message showing % of duplicates
between popular CD-ROMs. You used a program you refer to as "CD-ROM DUPLIATE
ANALYZOR". I would love to get hold of a copy of this - do you know any BBS
(preferable v32bis) which has it online, and the file name? Better still, do
you know if it is on any shareware CD-ROMs? (I have Night Owl 7&9, Pier 1&2,
So Much Shareware 2&3, Software Vault II&Gold, Monster Disc II, Shareware
Studio II)
Thanks, much appreciated.
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From: SEAN TUDOR Number: 4190
To: TONY STOTT Date: 09/28/93 7:53a
Subj: Re: Caddy Bullsh*t Refer: NONE
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-=> and Tony Stott was heard mumbling to Wayne Majors <=-
TS> Wayne, you missed my point; I care about caddies (I have about 30 of
TS> 'em myself), but one or two people here are doing the "King Arthur on
TS> the Crusades" ego trip, whereby anyone who doesn't agree with them is
TS> "an infidel" who should be put to the sword.. My plea was for a big
TS> reduction in the emotion, because it really isn't such a big issue.
"Oh Great God of the Caddy
I Implore Thee
What Doust Thou Recommend
To Caddy or Not to Caddy
Whence Came The Question ? "
... my tongue is firmly wedged in cheek ...
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From: SCOTT GOLBY Number: 4191
To: STEVE GERWECK Date: 09/27/93 1:57p
Subj: Busty Babes Vol II-N Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi there,
SG> With this New Busty Babes disk have you made a better effort
SG> to remove the pictures that have come from Playboy magazine? I saw
SG> Which BB do you have?
The first one, I think it was called Vol I, #3. I guess that means the
first issue and the 3rd press run or something?
'C' ya... Scott Golby
sgolby@st.nepean.uws.edu.au
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From: STEPHEN RANSON Number: 4192
To: TOMCAT Date: 09/28/93 1:58a
Subj: Add Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TOMCAT control message = ADD
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From: MARCUS LEE Number: 4193
To: ALL Date: 09/27/93 8:37p
Subj: 7th Guest 100% Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Just for anyone who might be interested to know,
I got 100% for video under 7th Guest using an ATI Graphics Ultra Pro 2mb vram
EISA version.... about the only card I know (and own!) which isnt VLB to score
100%...
Regards.
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From: ANDRE QUEREE Number: 4194
To: JANUSZ SUROWKA Date: 09/20/93 2:05p
Subj: 16 bit cards Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Janusz Surowka to Andre Queree <=-
JS> the SB16ASP is compatible /w all the SB cards, and I HAVE A GAME /W
JS> SUPPORT FOR THE SOUNDBLASTER 16ASP....Comprende, don't talk when you
JS> don't know what your talking about.
Don't butt in when you obviously haven't read the entire thread - if you had
you might know what we where talking about!!
In case you're interested, we were talking about compatability between the
SoundBlaster cards and the Pro Audio spectrum 16 bit card. The point made was
that the PAS is only compatible with the old 8 bit SoundBlaster, not the newer
stereo and/or 16 bit SoundBlasters.
If you leap into something head first with your eyes closed and your mouth
open, don't complain when you swallow a heap of #### !
Catch ya' later!
Andre
... The cost of feathers has risen... Now even DOWN is up!
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From: LUCKE BERGER Number: 4195
To: JEFF JENKINS Date: 09/28/93 7:13p
Subj: Cd Kits Prices <Aust>e Refer: NONE
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>I have the panasonic 563, it's it's the best CD I have had yet!
>it's FAST and I got a pretty good deal
>CD drive w/controller, stereo sound card, 3 very good CD's
>including MPC encylcolpedia, mic... for 399.00 plus it was
>on sale, and I got to use my 10% discound card I got with
>my Mongomery Wards credit card.
>it only cost me 350.00!
What kind of soundcard ?
Where did you buy this ?
I live in Sweden so you dont have to reply if they don't ship overseas...
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From: JOHN RACKLEY Number: 4196
To: GARY STIMPSON Date: 09/27/93 11:56p
Subj: Re: Amiga CD32 Refer: NONE
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Okay, thanks for relaying my questions to the Amiga CD-ROM echo. It is
impossible to get any Amiga conferences here in Tacoma, Washington.
Not a whole lot of support here for any alternative platforms.
Even CD-ROM on an IBM is considered to be an "alternative" platform by most.
Water on the brain, I guess, from the constant rain. ;-)
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From: JOHN RACKLEY Number: 4197
To: KEITH STEWART Date: 09/28/93 12:08a
Subj: Re: PC or MAC or Amiga versions Refer: NONE
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As long as the CD-ROM drives are true SCSI, they are not "brand specific".
GIF (Graphics Interchange Format) files should work on any computer. GIFs on
an IBM are supposed to be the same format on your Mac, etc.
I use the same .GIF files on several different computer types.
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From: BENNY FOSTER Number: 4198
To: RUSSELL HARDIE Date: 09/28/93 11:17p
Subj: 7th Guest Refer: NONE
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-> I have finally got 7th Guest working on my system, but....
->
-> When I play it, when people speek, their voices break up so much that
-> almost impossible to undertand them.
I have ran into that problem many times and it is always when the
customer has a Cirrus Logic Vesa Local Bus video card. After talking to
Virgin, I found that there IS a problem with Cirrus Logic VL card and a
fix is in the works but not to hold your breath! Sorry I dont have
better news for you.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4199
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/28/93 12:26a
Subj: SB WITH NEC DOUBLE SPIN Refer: NONE
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> BF> The ONLY drive that SBPro interface will handle is a
> BF> Panasonic/Matsushita unit designed specifically for that interface....
> I beg to differ... I have seen SB Pro used with a SONY CDU-31A CD-ROM.
Are you CERTAIN that the Sony was being run by the SB, as opposed to havign
just the AUDIO connected to the SB Pro?
> Also there is a later Panasonic CR563 CD-ROM drive
Precisely - a PANASONIC!
> was faster than an NEC CDU-55 and an NEC 74-1! (Both SCSI devices)....
Likely a limitation of the test program used, in combination with a somewhat
larger buffer on the drive - SAME sort of results that CoreTest will give on a
drive or controller with a large buffer. The 563 appears to be a nice drive,
but the SUSTAINED DTR is the same as the NEC 74 - if you transfer SMALL chunks
of data many times (256K or less) the Panasonic will APPEAR to be a lot faster,
as you're actually reading the BUFFER rather than the data on disc after the
first read....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4200
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/28/93 12:27a
Subj: DESQVIEW Refer: NONE
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> BF> * SLMR 2.1a * Australia: where men are men and sheep are nervous....
> Sorry dude, you're thinking of New Zealand!
Not according to the original I was quoting....though BOTH countries might be
equally applicable to that quote?
8->
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4201
To: PETE CRESSWELL Date: 09/28/93 10:15a
Subj: GOOD MACINTOSH CDS?? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Am about to put a couple more CD rom drives up and want to dedicate at least
>one of them to a Mac-oriented disk.
Garbo (Walnut Creek compilation from the Internet site by that name).
* SLMR 2.1a * If you would know a man, observe how your cat treats him.
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From: PAUL WALDINGER Number: 4202
To: DON SHORTRIDGE Date: 09/28/93 12:42p
Subj: Bbs listing Refer: NONE
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-> I will be more than happy to advertise your BBS on Secure Bacckups
-> BBS. I will even advertise it on a couple of BBS's that I regulary
-> get on in the San Diego, CA area.
Are you directing these messages to me for a specific reason?
..... Paul Waldinger.....SOM....Sysop......
... Smartnet International Host ....SOM New York......
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4203
To: MARK GLENN Date: 09/29/93 12:34a
Subj: Re: RED HOT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Hello Boris!
>> In a message to All <09/22/93> Boris Osadciw wrote:
BO>> HACKER CHRONICAL - $18
BO>> DR.CD COLLECTION - 4 CD'S - $55.
>> Boris could you netmail me what is on these two cd roms im
>> interested in getting these two thanks .
On it's way....
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... The Far East pirate's choice!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4204
To: MARK GLENN Date: 09/29/93 12:34a
Subj: Re: The Black BOX Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Hello Boris!
>> Well havent seen this echo in a while but has the black box
>> come out yet and could you send me more info on it my fido
>> netmail # is 1:290/17 and yes Boris does a good job.... just
>> a happy Boris customer....
Sorry, we decided not to handle the product after we were given a
new price that put it out the ball park of normal shareware cd's.
Thanks for the interest!
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... Simply more bang for your bucks!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4205
To: DAN POLIVY Date: 09/29/93 12:34a
Subj: Re: Night owl 9 cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Does anyone have Night Owl 9 CDROM for sale? I am looking for
>> a copy.
Yes we do DAn and it's priced at $25.
Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy
to assist you further.
Boris Osadciw
... Press F1 to Reboot
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4206
To: PHILIP MARTELLI Date: 09/29/93 1:50a
Subj: Re: PANASONIC CDROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> The ALL NEW Panosonic 562 is here and ready for delievery!!
>> 340ms access time / 300kps transfer rate
>> Is it true that the MPC-2 standard stipulates a minimum of
>> 320mS seek time??
According to our information, the drive is 320ms with a 300kps transfer
rate.
If you need further assistance, please call us at 216-225-3263 and
we'll be happy to assist you further.
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4207
To: MATT VOSE Date: 09/29/93 1:50a
Subj: Re: CDROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Looking for a CD-ROM that will work with a 386 CPU, 2 MEG ram,
>> DOS 6.0, Windows. Not looking to spend a fortune. Will pay UPS
>> charges. Guarantee needed. -Matt-
Got a ton of them here!
Give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime 7 days a week and we'll be
glad to set you up.
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... Pioneering Off-line Mail Technology!
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From: CHARLES HARPER Number: 4208
To: ERIC BOYLES Date: 09/27/93 11:07p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM CONVERSION Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> I would like to convert several gigs worth of data to CD-ROM. (1) Can
> anyone suggest a Minneapolis or at least a Minnesota based firm capable
> of converting my data ? (2) Is there anyone that specializes in
> conversion to CD-ROM ? (3) Lets dream for a minute -- does anyone have
> any suggestions regarding one of those CD-mastering machines that, from
> what I've heard, can write data to blank CD-ROM's ? I really appreciate
> any information and advice available on this topic. Thanks.
There are several places that will do it for around $1,000 to $1,500.00
for each disk since you say several gigs that could be over 10 disk so
figure around at least $10,000. for the cost.
You may do better by geting a machine to do it yourself. They run
around $4,000. plus depending on what you are looking for.
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From: STEVE GERWECK Number: 4209
To: PAUL COLLIER Date: 09/28/93 7:28p
Subj: Busty Babes Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Paul Collier to Pat Rickerson <=-
PC> I wasn't saying it's a bad place to live (no smiley so I take it
PC> you're serious) I'm just saying that $US450 is a little rich for a cd
PC> that you can get here for $A65. Have you seen "The Adult Reference
PC> Library" ? Not a bad disc, just in case you're hunting around for some
PC> good stuff 8-)
What is $A65 in American money??? :)
Steve
... Is it 1996 yet?
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From: JOHN WILKINSON Number: 4210
To: ROEL SARCENO Date: 09/29/93 1:23a
Subj: Hackers Chronicles Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Hi yall,
->
-> I'm planning to buy Hackers Chronicles but it's not bbs ready. Does
-> anybody have FILES.BBS or something for this CD?
->
-> Thank's
-> Roel
->
->
-> --- WM v3.01/93-0821
-> * Origin: Video ViSion * Mail:sarceno@citrus.sac.ca.us (1:203/1316.
-> 322/327
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IF You are trying to install a CD for the frist time and running
WildCats 3.X you can do this go into makewild and to files area and add
the Area Just like you wood do like any other area
I run 390 and i have poke-ware 2 and i did it this Way....
FILE NAME POKE-WARE 2 (DIR) (NOX01)
PATH E:\X01
and then go into WCFILE and Add them in there......
If you need more help give me a call Voice at (908) 525-0893
Anytime..Est Time...
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* Origin: CATSEYE BBS (908) 525-0593 (1:107/659)
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 4211
To: CHRIS WISE Date: 09/28/93 6:58p
Subj: National telephone direct Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>>>I have one unopened set of Prophone 1993 available for $69 plus
CW> Do you still have this available, if so I will take it...
Sorry, Chris. It sold right away. Thanks anyway.
Jim...
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 4212
To: DAN POLIVY Date: 09/28/93 7:30p
Subj: Night owl 9 cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DP>Does anyone have Night Owl 9 CDROM for sale? I am looking for a copy.
Night Owl 9 $24.00
Computer Works Jim...
CD-Rom Sales!
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card & COD Orders
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* Origin: COMP-U-Sirv * Dothan, AL * 205-677-0078 * (1:18/10)
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 4213
To: BOB JENKINS Date: 09/28/93 7:12p
Subj: Re: Cd's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BJ>OK, Let's talk. Can you tell me a little about the encyclopedia ie.
>name, MPC/MM etc. etc. I'm also looking for Sherlock Holmes Consulting
>Detective. Would you know where I could get my hands on this (at a
>reasonable price) ?
Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective I $22.00
Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective II $48.00
Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective III $52.00
Computer Works Jim...
CD-Rom Sales!
(205) 793-4481 Voice Download CATALOG1.ZIP for our complete list.
(205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card & COD Orders
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From: CARL SCHULTZ Number: 4214
To: ALEJANDRO RODRIGUEZ HERED Date: 09/27/93 5:07p
Subj: Compras. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
/q
-> > Que te parece el The 7th Guest > Dejame un mail por aqui y dime de
-> donde hablas...
-> > * Origin: Creaturas de la Noche *IDS* [Monterrey > Mxico]
-> (4:971/1)
-> Hola Roberto.
-> Te vas a quedar un poco frio, pero te llamo desde Espaa, al otro lado
-> del charco. Mi direccion de nodo es 2:341/12.5 de la BBS CORBEN en
-> Madrid.
->
-> Contestando a si estoy interesado en el "The 7th Guest", claro que
-> si, lo que pasa es que no se como vamos a hacer las cosas.
->
-> Por cierto, hace poco que me case, y estuve en Mexico, tipico sitio
-> CANCUN, no estubo mal, pero dime tu opinion No es todo lo que
-> se ve un poco distinto de la realidad?.
-> Tambien fui a COZUMEL, por cierto un lugar precioso, pero como no
-> sabia nada de Mexico, lo hice mal. Me pase mas tiempo en CANCUN que
-> en COZUMEL. Conoces COZUMEL o a alguien de alli?.
->
-> Saludos. Alex.
->
-> ---
-> * Origin: (2:341/12.5)
Is this a code or are you spanish or something?
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From: CARL SCHULTZ Number: 4215
To: CHRISTIAN BUHL Date: 09/27/93 5:10p
Subj: Cd-rom's wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I've seen it as 25 U.S.
/s
-> I just purchased my new CD-Rom drive, and now I need some software to
-> use with it, I am particularly interested in games and education
-> (mostly games) and ESPECIALLY the 7th guest, the cheapest I've seen
-> it is $39, can anyone out there top that?
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From: GARY STIMPSON Number: 4216
To: JAY HENRY Date: 09/27/93 11:47p
Subj: Re: Amiga CD32 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of 25 Sep 93 Jay Henry wrote to me:
JH> CD-ROM's are normally SCSI. The CD32 uses a Sony CD-ROM with
JH> Commodore microcode technology - it IS a SCSI device. Why else would
JH> AmigaDOS 3.1, which is included with the CD32, have a SCSI_CD-ROM file
JH> system?
Thanks for the information. I think it would be a great idea if non-Amiga
owners could hook up a CD32 to their computers. Let's hope Commodore makes
it possible. (yeah right) ;-)
Gary
... Pirating taglines is wrong!
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From: GARY STIMPSON Number: 4217
To: ALL Date: 09/28/93 12:33a
Subj: CD^32 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* This message forwarded from area 'AMIGA_CDROM' (AMIGA_CDROM)
* Original message dated 24 Sep 93, from Ian Gunn
CD^32
I thought I would help clarify what kinds of expansion the CD^32
has. There are 4 places where the CD^32 can expand externally
and one internally.
Externally:
- 2 game ports - expandable to having 8 joysticks per port
- keyboard connector - serial connection and keyboard (A4000 keyboard
plugs right in)
- 180 pin connector - plug anything into it (expansion boxes, GVP's
A530 type boxes etc)
(imagine any disk drives, accelerators, memory expansion, serial,
parallel, etc could be brought out of this expansion)
Internally:
- this one is specialized, it's for CBM's MPEG board
... Drop your carrier, we have you surrounded.
--- Spot 1.1 Unreg.
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From: CHRIS DONNEGAN Number: 4218
To: SCOTT CONDER Date: 09/28/93 10:05p
Subj: PANASONIC CD NO MORE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CD>"Panasonic" no longer markets or promotes Matsushita CD-ROM drives. Wh
CD>you request literature on these drives, they send you a packet on opti
CD>drives ("flopticals") but nothing on CD-ROM hardware.
CD>
CD>More to follow....
I spoke to one of their sales reps who told me the following:
Panasonic no longer markets Matsushita CD-ROM drives in the US. They are
sold under OEM contract to bulk purchasers like Creative Labs. Panasonic
does little to control what these purchasers do with the drives.
Additionally, there are drives imported independently from places like
Singapore and distributed to retailers here.
Panasonic *also* feels no need to police the market and prevent resellers
from inaccurately using the Panasonic name when advertising the Matsushita
drives they carry.
"Panasonic" drives currently bought in the United States are NOT subject
to Panasonic service, technical, or warranty support. The reseller must
provide such services if needed.
That's what the man said...
Sounds pretty sloppy to me. I guess they sent all the Japanese managers
back to Osaka. <G>
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From: RONALD LEON Number: 4219
To: TONY DAVIS Date: 09/28/93 9:21p
Subj: Oklahoma BBS Bust Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Tony Davis beamed onto the Enterprise and said:
TD>Is talking to Anthony Davis hazardous to your health?
TD>
TD>In a manner of speaking, that's what numerous people with computers an
TD>modems apparently have been worrying about since late July. That's
TD>when Oklahoma City police raided Davis' software publishing firm and
TD>confiscated his sophisticated commercial computer bulletin board
TD>system. Authorities allege Davis was selling pornographic computerize
TD>materials on CD-ROM and through files downloaded over phone lines.
It's about time this SMUT got cleaned up! Now, who can give me the best
price on Asian ladies and Busty babes??
Ron
* WinQwk 2.0 a#743 * The "Fairness" Doctorine: Liberal Socialist CENSORSHIP!
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From: MATT SMULSKY Number: 4220
To: ALL Date: 09/26/93 10:15p
Subj: Insufficient Memory Error Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Been running So Much Shareware 3 with no problem , until I had to replace my
power supply. Now when I run it under DOS I get and error when I try to UNZIP a
file. PKUNZIP
(84) Insufficient Memory. If I use WINDOWS it allows me to Unzip a file but it
seems to take longer than it use to . I run QEMM 7.0 and I have 634K free.
HELP !! Any Suggestions ???????
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From: MAHMUT KURSUN Number: 4221
To: ALL Date: 09/26/93 3:49p
Subj: looking for Publishers Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for CDROM Publishers with new CDROMs
please send detailed information about your work to:
Kursun CDROM Versand
Karl-Marx-Ring 148
81737 Munich / GERMANY
tel: ++49-89-6378421
fax: ++49-89-6378429
cis: 100116,3315
Nodelistirregularities here in Germany, please do not send fidomail
bye
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From: MAHMUT KURSUN Number: 4222
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/27/93 11:27a
Subj: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello,
> 1) I am opposed to the removal of adult material. You know as well as
> anyone that CD-ROMs as a media would not be where they are without
> those discs as a motivator to buy a drive.
I think its better without X-Rated here because it is annoying some
people.
> 2) Removal of CD-ROM ads (and the discussion about them) will result in
you can do CDROM ads as long as they are limited to 10 lines.
> this echo being just about useless to those of us here in Europe.
I (from Germany) will make you a good offer with Netmail, so you dont
have to worry about it.
> If that double-whammy is done, I'll ask the sysops over here to drop
> this echo and carry the adult and CD-ROM for sale echos instead.
the CDROM_SALE echo is already available here in Germany.
bye
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From: MARTIN ALBERT Number: 4223
To: ALL Date: 09/28/93 2:53a
Subj: Mitsumi Double Spin Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I heard there was a new Double Spin Mitsumi... anyone have the specs?!
Shaka!
... I've never been dead before...
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From: DEAN DROLET Number: 4224
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/25/93 11:38p
Subj: DISCOUNT CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NB>TOO MANY MORE TO LIST!!!
NB>FOR A COMPLETE CATALOG, LEAVE
NB>E-mail ADDRESS OR POSTAL
NB>ADDRESS!!!!
Send me a catalog @1:342/47 via FIDO or at
ddrolet@traider.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca via Internet...
Your prices are some of the best that I have seen so far..
Dean
* QMPro 1.50 42-7570 * You will become rich and famous unless you don't.
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From: DEAN DROLET Number: 4225
To: CRAIG GAGNER Date: 09/25/93 11:44p
Subj: Mitsumi Problems Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CG>The Mitsumi Drives with a manufacture date of June 93 will not work in
CG>a 486 system !! They just Crap out !! We have tried 4 different
CG>motherboards ranging from ISA to Local Bus. The same drive will work in
CG>a 386 no problem.
We have run into a problem on booting the computer with a CD in the
drive at boot up time...if the drive is empty the problem goes away...We
had the same symptoms before like you described but fixed it by making
sure that the drive is empty.
Dean
* QMPro 1.50 42-7570 * I can't be out of money! I have checks left!
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From: RANDY WHITE Number: 4226
To: WILLIAM FERNANDEZ Date: 09/28/93 7:47a
Subj: Cd Kits Prices <Aust>e Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm looking for this new drive, where did you get such a great deal, any info
on the drive's performance would also help. I have the SbPro2 and the old cd
drive it came with.. Thanks
--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
* Origin: =] Animal House [= 915-942-9350 (1:383/300)
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From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 4227
To: STEPHEN GUPTON Date: 09/28/93 12:07a
Subj: free cream of the crop cd! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Stephen Gupton wrote in a message to Terry Blount:
SG> In a msg on <Sep2614:21, Terry Blount of 1:3625/441 writes:
SG> Any plans for releasing a updated version of Cream Of
SG> The Crop?
YESSS ! There will be a Christmas 93 edition available in less
than one month. There will be NO files older than April 93...
NOT even inside the archives!!! (There are a few exceptions like
the stand alone database programs that require BRUN45 and some
program that were upgraded and still use their original setup
program.) It will have automatic and instant setup for several
bbs program AND the file view and the retrieval front end program
for stand alone use will have many new options. The files will
have extended descriptions, most of which are extracted from the
File_id.diz provided by the author. In order to make the best
use of the space available on a cd the following classifications
of programs are not included: Sexual explicit (adult) material,
pictures, clip art, gifs, programming OTHER than C, Pascal and
ASM, windows icons, windows games, bbs utilities specific for a
single BBS, BBS games, macintosh and unix operating systems.
Thank you for your inquiry.
--- timEd-B9
* Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441)
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4228
To: TONY DAVIS Date: 09/29/93 12:08a
Subj: Oklahoma BBS Bust Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TD>Critics also say police over reached in grabbing Davis' entire system,
TD>shutting down his pay-for-play computer service, because of four CDs.
Go get 'em Tony! I know you will prevail in this blatant injustice,
just hang in there!
.\\ike
---
* SLMR 2.1a * In my opinion, your opinion stinks. Any opinion on that?
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4229
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 12:08a
Subj: CD-ROM PREORDERS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
| Starvector Sales Bulletin #3: CD-ROM PRE-ORDERS |
We are now taking pre-orders on the following titles
- Cards are not processed until date of shipment -
NIGHT OWL 10 * What more can be said? Always the top-rated s/w CD......$35
CD OS/2BOX * The newest from Damar. 300+mb of EXCLUSIVELY OS2 2.x s/w!.$29
PIER 3 * 650+mb of all new material w/ no dupes to Pier 1 or 2.........$39
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)
---
* SLMR 2.1a * I think my data transmission is low on fluid.
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4230
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 12:08a
Subj: A FEW CD TITLES . . . . . Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
7th Guest.....................39.00 Middle East Diary.............35.00
Beauty and the Beast..........32.50 Night Owl 9.0.................25.00
Beyond the Wall of Stars......24.50 Night Owl 10.0 (Pre-orders)...35.00
Bible Library.................28.50 Night Owl 9/10 2-Pak..........55.00
CD Winbox.....................25.50 Night Owl Graphics (New!).....29.00
C User's Group Library........31.00 OS/2Box (Pre-orders)..........29.00
Canadian Shareware (New!).....22.00 PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....27.00
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)
---
* SLMR 2.1a * Picard and Riker in '96!
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From: TOM NIELAND Number: 4231
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 9:58a
Subj: teac cd rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have a teac cd rom that Im having trouble setting up for use in os2
its not supported and I would like to have some help installing it with os2
my system is a 486dx33 vlb with a pas 16 scsi interface and cd-50 teac cdrom
help please thanks in advance
--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
* Origin: OS/2 Connection @ La Jolla, CA <619-558-9475> (1:202/354)
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From: MARK GLENN Number: 4232
To: SAM BECKWITH Date: 09/29/93 1:18p
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Sam!
In a message to All <09/27/93> Sam Beckwith wrote:
SB> DFW Discount Electronics 09/27/93 Orders: 800-829-0331
SB> BBS: 214-259-4188 Local : 214-254-0331
SB> NIGHT OWL 10 (10/93, BBS Ready)..............................$32.00
SB> NIGHT OWL BUSINESS ROM (8/93, BBS Ready).....................$30.00
SB> NIGHT OWL GAMES ROM (10/93, BBS Ready).......................$22.00
SB> NIGHT OWL GRAPHICS ROM (8/93, BBS Ready).....................$27.00
SB> SHAREWARE EXPLORER (9/93, BBS Ready) 4 CD combo..............$45.00
SB> SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3 (7/93, BBS Ready)........................$25.00
SB> SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD (9/93,BBS Ready)FILES.BBS & SFFILES.BBS..$24.00
Can you send me more info on what is on these nightowl v10?
* WCE 1.10/2159 * Mail not found: (a)bort (r)etry (p)anic (b)lame sysop
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From: NEIL RIPSTON Number: 4233
To: WALTER CHISENSKI Date: 09/26/93 12:50p
Subj: CD-ROM CADDYS/PROGRAM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Try Sole Source Systems. The caddys are $4.75 Each in quantities of 3 or more,
and
they have some reasonable prices on CD's.
Sole Source Systems
8248-B Ronson Road
San Diego, CA 92111
Voice 619-467-0661
BBS 619-467-0666
... This tagline is SHAREWARE! To register, send me $10
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From: NEIL RIPSTON Number: 4234
To: SIMON MACKAY Date: 09/26/93 12:51p
Subj: PIONEER CD MAGAZINES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Check out Service Merchandise. I have purchased 3 packs of these cd cartriges
for $25.00
Regards,
Neil Ripston
... (hic) BWave 2.10 (hic) BWave 2.10 * My computer is drunk ...
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From: NEIL RIPSTON Number: 4235
To: ROB PERELMAN Date: 09/26/93 12:52p
Subj: FREE CATALOG Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please send me the catalog.
Neil Ripston
10 Windham Dr.
East Longmeadow, MA 01028
... "Scotty, beam me up another Blue Wave message."
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From: ERIC STAUFER Number: 4236
To: RHEZA JINA Date: 09/26/93 6:24p
Subj: Gifs Galore Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Rhéza,
RJ--> First of all, I've heard that Walnut Creek had legal
RJ--> problems with this CD
RJ--> because of copyright violations.
RJ--> It contains 6,000+ images (on the cover, it says 5,000 but
RJ--> there are more
RJ--> than 6,000), in 42 categories (art, aviation, cars,
RJ--> flowers, mammals,
RJ--> people, swimsuit, etc...). There are also viewers for DOS,
RJ--> Amiga, Mac,
RJ--> Unix, etc... Total 600 MB.
I never noticed that until you pointed it out.
RJ--> In my opinion, this CD is not very good. Although there
RJ--> are some very good
RJ--> images, many others are not interesting at all. In fact,
RJ--> it seems that
RJ--> they tried to fill the disk with all the images they could
RJ--> find (including
RJ--> many that were copyrighted...). But the CD is cheap, so
RJ--> perhaps it's worth,
RJ--> but I'm not sure.
Yeah, the only reason why I bought it was because of the $15 for it. I
thought for $15 I couldnt even download 6,000 GIFs on a 14.4 on LD. So, it is
pretty neat to have.. The bad part, no descriptions! <arrghh!!>
Thanks for the reply!
..Eric Staufer..
..1:374/6568..
ps.. I can make the é! :)I was wondering when I could use those ASCII codes!
<grin>
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From: JOHN KELLEY Number: 4237
To: EUGENE FEDOROWICH Date: 09/28/93 9:03p
Subj: CANADIAN SUPPLIER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>I am looking for canadian suppliers of CD software products.
Call JANA Publishing 1-800-363-2083, located in Canada.
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From: JOHN KELLEY Number: 4238
To: KEVIN PLUMMER Date: 09/28/93 9:03p
Subj: CD'S 4-SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Any Many MANY more Titles...
How about a price on Night Owls 10?
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From: JOHN WILKINSON Number: 4239
To: JOHN WILKINSON Date: 09/29/93 11:05a
Subj: Hackers Chronicles Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> -> Hi yall,
-> ->
-> -> I'm planning to buy Hackers Chronicles but it's not bbs ready. Do
-> -> anybody have FILES.BBS or something for this CD?
-> ->
-> -> Thank's
-> -> Roel
-> ->
-> ->
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-> -> 322/327
-> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
->
-> IF You are trying to install a CD for the frist time and running
-> WildCats 3.X you can do this go into makewild and to files area and
-> the Area Just like you wood do like any other area
->
-> I run 390 and i have poke-ware 2 and i did it this Way....
->
->
-> FILE NAME POKE-WARE 2 (DIR) (NOX01)
-> PATH E:\X01
->
-> and then go into WCFILE and Add them in there......
->
-> If you need more help give me a call Voice at (908) 525-0893
-> Anytime..Est Time...
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From: DEAN BUXTON Number: 4240
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 5:56p
Subj: CD capacity Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello All!
I recently purchased two CD drives from Radio Shack CDR-1000's
According to the specs on the drive the capacity is 552 Meg.
Most of the newer CD's coming out these days are averaging
about 600-650 Meg. Will these drives be able to read these
larger disks or did I waste my money?
I suppose I could return the drives but because I have not yet
purchased and CD's yet I'd like to know before-hand.
Thanks in advance for a reply.
Dean
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From: JASON SUTTLE Number: 4241
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 8:30p
Subj: Sequel to The 7th Guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I was just wondering if anyone out there has heard anything about the sequel
to The 7th Guest being out, or coming out soon. I talked to Graeme Devine
(lead programmer) at Trilobyte Software a few months ago, and he said they
were shooting to release the sequel between Sept. and Dec. Any info would be
most appreciated.
Jason
P.S. I have NOT finished the game yet. Stuck on the virus puzzle. I think
it is similar to Othello, but then again, I don't play that many board games.
:-)
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 4242
To: ALL Date: 09/28/93 10:50p
Subj: NO#10 $20 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Night Owl's #10 will be available sometimes next week and we are taking
preorders for $20 plus $3 shipping USA $5 international.
GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400 or 1-800-373-0628
1-206-473-1634 FAX or 1-800-277-5179 FAX
All major credit cards and COD, checks accpeted.
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From: CLARKE ULMER Number: 4243
To: ALL Date: 09/28/93 12:40p
Subj: ACTOR AND ACTRESS CD-ROM! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE September
22, 1993
FOR INFORMATION CONTACT:
The Movie BBS/Clarke Ulmer Jr.
P.O. Box 1793 Dept PR1 Bowling Green Station
New York City, NY 10274-1134, USA
Data: (718) 939-5462
Voice: (718) 321-3551
PREMIERE OF ACTOR AND ACTRESS COLLECTION VOLUME 1, NO. 1
After breaking new ground in the Bulletin Board System world four years
ago
this month, The Movie BBS now releases the first in a series of Actor
and
Actress CD-ROMs.
Having earned a reputation for high quality computer graphics, The Movie
BBS
now presents a collection of original photos of your favorite actresses
and
actors. Photos include publicity, candid, portrait, "cheesecake" and
"beefcake" poses. You'll see your favorite celebs as never before from
early in their careers to the present.
300 PHOTOS
The disc contains a total of 300 digital reproductions of actual
photographs
in 256 color GIF file format. Some of the celebrities include:
Adrienne Barbeau, Clint Eastwood, Sybil Danning, Sean Connery, Harrison
Ford,
Michael Douglas, Joan Collins, Melanie Griffith, Apollonia, Robert
Mitchum,
Cary Grant, Humphrey Bogart, Gary Cooper, Rock Hudson, Mark Hamill,
William
Shatner, Leonard Nimoy, Raquel Welch, Linda Hamilton, Jenny Agutter,
Nastassja
Kinski, Deidre Hall, Pam Grier, Tony Randall, Henry Fonda, John Wayne,
Jodie
Foster, Michael Caine, Tina Louise, Marta Kristen, Angela Cartwright,
Kristy
Swanson, Christian Slater, Marilyn Monroe, Sylvester Stallone, Caroline
Munro,
Robert Redford, Elizabeth Taylor, Farrah Fawcett and many, many more!
PHOTO QUALITY
All images are photo quality and viewable on a variety of systems (DOS,
MAC,
etc.). The novelty of these images will appeal to collectors and movie
fans!
REQUIREMENTS
System requirements for viewing images are a CD-ROM drive, CD-ROM
driver software and a VGA or higher display. A customized interface for
DOS
and Windows is included as well as Shareware viewers for DOS, MAC, etc.
DEALERS
Dealers/Vendors/Distributors, there is an AUTO-DISPLAY function built-in
that
continuously displays images. This can be used for in-store/window
setups to
attract customers.
ACTOR AND ACTRESS COLLECTION VOLUME 1, NO.1 is available directly from
The Movie BBS for $39.95 (US Funds), add $3.00 for shipping and
handling.
Make checks or money orders to:
Clarke Ulmer/The Movie BBS
P.O. Box 1793 Dept PR1 Bowling Green Station
New York City, NY 10274-1134, USA
The Movie BBS can also be contacted on the following online services:
CompuServe as 76605,2173, DELPHI as THEMOVIEBBS, America Online as
ClarkeU,
GEnie as C.ULMER1 and Prodigy as CLARKE ULMER
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 4244
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/28/93 11:13a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Duplicate Analyzer Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
-=> Quoting Mike Shannon to Russell Hardie <=-
RH>It used a program referred to as "Bob Neal's CD-ROM Duplicate Analyzer
v1.0
MS> That was my list. You can download the program from our BBS @
MS> 509-457-0206. Good little utility!
I'ma gonna be comin' to git it myseff.
... Mary had a little RAM -- only about a MEG or so.
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From: CR HAMILTON Number: 4245
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 4:37p
Subj: PC DOS 6.1 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello All!
I have a Panasonic 501B which has been working flawlessly on the bbs with MSDOS
6.0. Just got PC DOS 6.1, and find that it doesn't have a MSCDEX file. Anyone
using this "supposedly" better dos with a cdrom? (And if so, how?)
CR
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From: MIKE PELLETIER Number: 4246
To: ANYONE WHO CAN HELP Date: 09/25/93 9:50p
Subj: CD-ROM: writing to them Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone know where I could get files (presently on my hard drive) written
to CD-ROM? I am pretty sure I would have to pay some professional, do you
know who might offer this service?
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From: PAM TEMPLE Number: 4247
To: EUGENE FEDOROWICH Date: 09/27/93 10:42a
Subj: Canadian Supplier Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Eugene Fedorowich wrote in a message to All:
EF> I am looking for canadian suppliers of CD software products.
EF> I have noticed quite a few American vendors but I think it
EF> may be easier to deal with Canadian suppliers due to customs
EF> etc.
EF> Please leave me mail here as to address etc.
Me too. But forget about the "adult" CDs; in those I have no interest. Cheers,
Pam
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From: PAM TEMPLE Number: 4248
To: EUGENE FEDOROWICH Date: 09/27/93 10:44a
Subj: CD Software reviews Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Eugene Fedorowich wrote in a message to All:
EF> I like the idea of software reviews of CD Software!!
So do I. How about occasional posts from anyone who has a CD s/he particularly
likes, telling us about it and why they like it? Most of the titles I see here
for sale are meaningless to me, and catalogues don't seem to say much; anyway
the motive is to sell it whether you like it or not. Does anyone know anything
about Delorme's Global Explorer, specifically?
Cheers,
Pam
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From: MICHAEL BROWN Number: 4249
To: CARL GRAHAM Date: 09/28/93 1:14p
Subj: Prophone 7 disc 93 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Ref. Pro_phone 93, If you still have the set please
replay. Sould you describe the business related disk.
I may be interested.
Thanks Mike
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From: GLENN LOFTUS Number: 4250
To: MARLIN ROWLEY Date: 09/27/93 8:15p
Subj: AMIGA CD ROM.. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Marlin Rowley wrote to Peter Lasne about AMIGA CD ROM..:
MR> I was just wanting to know if there is an Amiga CD ROM
The only CD-ROMs sold directly by Commodore-Amiga are the A570,
which connects to the side of an Amiga 500; the CDTV, which can
easily be PARNET'ted to your Amiga; and the new CD32, which
doesn't yet have the expansion module which might let you hook
it up to another system, but which is the world's first 32-bit
game console.
If you have a SCSI interface (as almost all Amigas have for
hard-drive interfaces), you can plug in almost any SCSI CDROM
and use it. You will need one of the CD filesystems available,
such as Anim-FS or whatever it's called.
A CD32 module for the A1200 and one for the A4000 are promised,
and should be available sometime next year.
--Glenn...
... Hello, I am part number │║▐║│║│█│║▌│║▌││.
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From: MARK KELLY Number: 4251
To: ALL Date: 09/28/93 3:10p
Subj: XXXcd-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I would like a list of the nastiest cd-roms out there. bb1 is not bad. but i
want something very interesting (purely gross.<G> I know I have a sick mind but
oh well. I would like all price lists
Thanx
Mark
... τÖÖ ┌┬┐ûÇ├┐ $εx Å⌠⌠ε¢τ$ ¥ÖÜr εÿε$íg├┐τ....
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From: CHRIS WISE Number: 4252
To: RUSSELL HARDIE Date: 09/28/93 2:23p
Subj: 7th Guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
->3:772/295.0
Russell Hardie wrote
>>number of a BBS I can FREQ it off, I'll be very greatful (preferably v32bi
----------------------------------------
First, what do you have your sound buffer set to in your config.sys.
(Should be set to about 25 or higher). Might want to try that, I kept
getting a sound buffer overflow and I changed it to 40 and the problem
stopped.
Lee Christopher Wise
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From: ROBERT WALKER Number: 4253
To: DAVID FATTAHIAN Date: 09/27/93 7:48p
Subj: Re: PANASONIC CD NO MORE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RW> In a recent note you write...
DF> CD> Well, it seems he was right. I called Panasonic HQ today and, after
DF> CD> a merry round of phone hopping (it was like calling the Pentagon, if
DF> CD> you've ever done that), was told that PANASONIC NO LONGER
DF> CD> MANUFACTURES CD-ROM DRIVES!! I was stunned.
RW> I called Creative Labs about compatible EXTERNAL CD ROM drives for
RW> my SB16 w/ ASP card and do they make them or sell them. Yes the sell
RW> a proprietory model (no EXTERNAL,big $) and another model CR521 or
RW> CR523 from Panasonic(not listed at Merisel).
RW> Those who know read this echo and I was hoping someone can
RW> make a recommendation for the best route to go to upgrade my
RW> system. I want an external drive because I want an external drive
RW> BUT if necessary I'll upgrade my box and accept any advice
RW> concerning an internal CD drive. I would like to read Kodak and be
RW> MPC (II) ? compliant. I would like to be able to play CD audio disks
RW> while computing. I already spent BIG bucks for the ASP card and I
RW> am interested in knowing what other SB16 players did in other
RW> configurations and how they worked out. I have a 16 bit slot
RW> available.
RW> If you've had a particularly good experience with a
RW> combination similar to the above, please respond in this echo.
___
X SLMR 2.0 X We all live in a yellow subroutine.
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From: NEIL BERGMAN Number: 4254
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 09/28/93 7:12a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM WHOLESALERS AND PU Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
It is a full-motion video, 75 minutes, interactive CD-ROM. It has
12 dancers (explicit nudity). You can select the girl, a song, run the
whole thing, or just watch parts of the CD. It's got great R & R music
in full stereo. Hope that answers your question.
Neil
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From: GENE EHRICH Number: 4255
To: CHRISTIAN BUHL Date: 09/27/93 3:21a
Subj: Cd-rom's wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CB>I just purchased my new CD-Rom drive, and now I need some software to
CB>use with it, I am particularly interested in games and education (mostly
CB>games) and ESPECIALLY the 7th guest, the cheapest I've seen it is $39,
CB>can anyone out there top that?
How about The 1990 Time Magazine Almanac for $18 including shipping.
===
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From: MIKE MUNNELLY Number: 4256
To: VINCE SORENSEN Date: 09/25/93 11:27p
Subj: Shareware Studio III Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
VS> **** Shareware Studio III in stock! Just $39 Canadian! ****
VS> CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA is proud to be a part of bringing you
VS> this excellent collection of 5100+ files (630+ Meg)... Many of the
Hi vince, I'm interested in getting a catalog. I always think that it is
better to support the in Canada groups. If you are a rep of this company
please forward me the BBS. This is my address
Mike Munnelly
Box 21, Site B
Verona, Ontario
K0H 2W0
Thanks Much.
Mike
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From: CHARLES CARTER Number: 4257
To: SOPH PETROU Date: 09/25/93 8:21p
Subj: Mitsumi CD ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Soph!
Answering a msg of <17 Sep 93>, from Soph Petrou to All:
No you can not ,we spent all last weekend trying to do this with two cards.You
need a scsi card and scsi CD Rom to be able to hook the CD's in a chain.
Charles
ttyl
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 4258
To: RUSSELL HARDIE Date: 09/30/93 6:32p
Subj: CD-ROM Analyzor Refer: 6669
Read: NO Private: No
-> Using Bob Neal's "CD-ROM DUPLICATE ANALYZER" v 1.0
-> you know if it is on any shareware CD-ROMs? (I have Night Owl 7&9, P
It's on Shareware Studio III (CDDA10.ZIP)...
tim
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 4259
To: DONNIE RAYNOR Date: 09/29/93 7:52a
Subj: Mitsumi CD-DRIVE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Donnie!
27 Sep 93, Donnie Raynor writes to All:
DR> I have a Mutsumi drive LU005S for sell. It has about two hours of run
DR> time on it. With manual, software, controller card and drive in box. I
DR> will ship to you for $165.00 I need a double speed drive. If interested
DR> leave me a message here.
I will offer $130 512-939-9822
Pat
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* Origin: Thin Ice BBS * Corpus Christi, Texas (1:160/9)
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 4260
To: WENDELL KENNEY Date: 09/29/93 7:05p
Subj: Simms/Recived Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Wendell!
Recived the simms today, thanks. I have already used some and they are great!
Thank you again, from my son!
Pat
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From: ANDREW PAGE Number: 4261
To: LAURIE BATT Date: 09/29/93 7:15a
Subj: BBS LISTING Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LB> You forgot about the rest of the world <g>.
LB> This is an International Echo.
It is? Sorry, I didn't know that. :)
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* Origin: PowerSurge BBS; Gibsonville NC USA; 919-449-3367 (1:151/2302)
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From: NANCY DAVIN Number: 4262
To: BENNY FOSTER Date: 09/29/93 10:07p
Subj: World Book Encyclopedia/C Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Do you have any suggestions?
Thanks for the advice -- I haven't seen it, I've just been extremely impressed
by World Book over the years!
Nancy
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From: COREY BICCUM Number: 4263
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 8:44p
Subj: 7th guest? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Anyone know any secrets to getting 7th guest to run? I don't have enough base
memory. Do you need dos6 to get it to run? By the time I load the drivers,
I'm down there in free memory. What gives? Want to get this game going, It's
my first disk I own!
--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
* Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070)
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From: COREY BICCUM Number: 4264
To: CHRIS DONNEGAN Date: 09/29/93 8:49p
Subj: PANASONIC CD NO MORE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Well, I just baught a dual spin panasonic drive today.. and it was cheap.. so
what gives? am I screwed ou tof a waranty? Or what? What does this mean?
Anyone?
--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
* Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070)
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From: COREY BICCUM Number: 4265
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 8:55p
Subj: terminate and cdroms? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
If anyone out there uses the program "terminate" for communications, how do you
get it to place audio cd's? I've pressed alt-F10 and it comes up with
"Mscdex.exe must be installed" Where do i get this file? Why don't I have
it? Anyone?
--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
* Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070)
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From: COREY BICCUM Number: 4266
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 9:21p
Subj: Panasonic drives? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Can anyone quickly tell me the model numbers of the Panasonic drives? And if
possible the specs on them too? rate of transfer and access time that is..
thanx
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* Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070)
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From: DUANE SUTTON Number: 4267
To: MARK ROEDEL Date: 09/29/93 9:12p
Subj: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please send a copy of your free catolog to:
Duane Sutton
115 Cherren Dale Drive
Warner Robins, GA 31088
Later,
Duane
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From: DEBBIE MARANTZ Number: 4268
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 09/28/93 11:37p
Subj: Re: S3 (Slow) Refer: NONE
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Before I purchased my CD Rom, my Stealth VRAM satisfied my VGA requirements.
But since then I have upgraded to a TSENG ET4000/W32 LB VGA adapter. Now for
the comparison, my STEALTH will do an astounding 14xx bytes per millisecond at
640*480*256 where as my ET4000/W32 will do 90xx bytes per millisecond at the
same resolution in Dos (using a program called VidSpeed). Also, the S3 based
boards also will slow considerably when measuring text vrs graphics modes,
where as the TSENG shows a solid 90xx regardless of which mode is being
accessed. Under Windows, the VRAM clocks in a 7.x Win Marks, where as the TSENG
clocks at 15.x, which is slightly faster than the newer S3 offerings. And in
real use the differences are noticable. Using AutoDesk Animator Pro Windows
Animation Player the STEALTH would really lag and you could see the data
updating to the screen, where as no such problem exists on the TSENG. True the
TSENG is LB but I have tried other VGA boards, and a PARADISE Windows
Accelerator shows the same type of constant through put as the TSENG, abeit,
slower, 39xx bytes per millisecond, text to graphics using a standard ISA
connection.
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From: DEBBIE MARANTZ Number: 4269
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/29/93 12:09a
Subj: VidSpeed Refer: NONE
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From what I have been reading T7G is really showing which VGA card can and
which cannot. My STEALTH was a real disappointment, where as the TESENG
ET4000/W32 easily scored 100% optimum in T7G (the card clocks in at 90xx bytes
per millisecond using vidspeed). What I find interesting is that the ATI ULTRA
PRO should have no problem as it is also a fast Dos VGA adapter, at least
according to PC mags recent article 32 Windows Accelerators. It clocked in at
7.30 Million Operations per Second, but I have not had the chance to have one
in system and do a comparison between it and the TSENG. As for through put on
the CD, mine is a whopping 150K (C31A) but with the TSENG it does seem faster
as I was loading AutoDesk Animator Pro files off their CD and there was no
noticable lag, but alas, I do see a time in the near future that I will make
the jump to a faster CD Rom. I am just waiting to see what the new IDE CD Roms
will do, and GateWay is supposed to have one in the works, so time will tell.
Now, again you have sparked my curious side, why is the Panasonic CD Roms
hooked the SBs having such good throughput numbers. 58x plus is almost that of
a Quad Speed, which the drive is supposed to not be. And from the pin out of
the AT interface in the Sbs, nothing special there either. Hmmmmm, wonder what
magical voodoo stuff is a happening or is the throughput program just skewed up
?
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From: STEWART ROTHMAN Number: 4270
To: KEVIN PLUMMER Date: 09/28/93 12:00a
Subj: Re: CD TITLES WANTED Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> On 23 Sep 93 15:05:00, I heard Stewart Rothman shout to All:
>SR> I'm interested in several CD titles I saw advertised in CRAZY BOB'S
Bob's Free Spirit
>SR> Complete Home and Office Legal Guide.......$15.00 $12.00
>SR> Guiness Disc of Records.................... 19.00 15.00
>SR> USA Wars - Korea........................... 39.00 29.00
>SR> Mayo Clinic................................ 39.00 19.00
>SR> Street Atlas USA........................... 99.00 89.00
>SR> CD Caddies, 10 @$5.50...................... 55.00 50.00
>
>KP> See second column.....How's That for Saving ???
>KP> Their number is 1-800-638-5757 They do except Visa/Mastercharge
Thanx for your answer, but I got an answer and ordered them from Boris for
$198.00 and he does take Visa-MC as well. Stu
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From: JOHN RUIZ Number: 4271
To: ALL Date: 09/27/93 3:57p
Subj: CD-ROM SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>-> PC MEDIC.................. 32.50 CICA WINDOWS............. 29.00
>-> Shipping is 5.00
For Sale: CICA Microsoft Windows CDROM August 1993.
ISO-9600 Format: your price $27.90 including s/h USA MAIL
Thousand of programs for Microsoft Windows from the CICA
Collection. Utilities, programing tools, fonts,icons,technical
documents, games, demos, ect.
This disc is an indispensable resouce for any MS Windows users.
I am not a MS windows user. Interested leave E-mail or call
206 226-2018 day/weekend PDT
John
* QMPro 1.51 * It's not hard to meet expenses, they're everywhere.
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From: DAVE WONG Number: 4272
To: SCOTT CONDER Date: 09/28/93 9:58a
Subj: PANASONIC CD NO MORE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
lets just get the story of panasonic correct. Panasonic is still making CD-Rom
drive but not with their name on it. They are making it for OEM like Creative
Labs and so on. So don't worry if you have a Rom drive from them
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From: DAVE WONG Number: 4273
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 09/28/93 10:04a
Subj: Shareware cd Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Can I send you my address for a catalog too. Dave Wong, 2504 S ferdinand,
Seattle, WA 98108. thanks
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From: DAVE REED Number: 4274
To: TONY DAVIS Date: 09/28/93 10:31p
Subj: Oklahoma BBS Bust Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Tony!
Monday September 27 1993 11:23, Tony Davis wrote to All:
TD> In a manner of speaking, that's what numerous people with computers and
TD> modems apparently have been worrying about since late July. That's
TD> when Oklahoma City police raided Davis' software publishing firm
Why is it that all you guys who run illegal systems set yourselves up with
dummy publishing firms in order to TRY and protect yourselves from the laws
that the rest of us are expected to abide by? It never ceases to amaze me that
every time the police crack down on illegal boards, the SysOps scream, "Hey
that's not fair... I'm a publisher... you can't do this to ME!!!!"
Booo Hoooo
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 4275
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 09/28/93 5:22a
Subj: CD-ROM GAMES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AB>well, I got not too many games, hey you know since I cal different
AB>boards which are netted together, I have to answer some of your message
AB>more than once or some old message just pops up, like this one, anyway I
AB>ain't go much to say. TTYL.
Yeah, I had that problem on one board. What I do is on the local ones I
call often I use Henry Paul. On the ones I don't call often I put my
middle initial in so I don't get duplicate messages... It was nice to
hear from you again though! Do you like my tagline? I thought it up
myself!
BTW- What is Day of the Tentacle?
* OLX 2.1 TD * I am G.Bush of BORG. Not gonna do it, wouldn't be prudent
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From: JR PEPPERGRASS Number: 4276
To: DON SHORTRIDGE Date: 09/26/93 9:53a
Subj: Re: BBS LISTING Refer: NONE
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I sure will Don......how about advertising our BBs here in South Bend,
Indiana....Home of Notre Dame Football. Max Baud rate of 14.4, 5 lines and big
Amiga File areas. Our telephone number is 219-288-8483 Peppergrass Express.
-JR Peppergrass
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From: JOHN DAGES Number: 4277
To: ALL Date: 09/26/93 7:41p
Subj: DAY OF THE TENTACLE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
HELLO! I bought an excellent CD game called the Day Of The Tentacle, it's an
incredible game but rather short. Over 100,000
thousand pages of digitized speech. Give me a call, (419) 991-2761
thanks!
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From: MARK RICHARDSON Number: 4278
To: ALL Date: 09/27/93 6:01p
Subj: WC2 Deluxe Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello all! I am looking for Wing Commander 2 Deluxe on CD-ROM for a good price.
Is anyone selling it? Thanks.
Mark
>> Mark
... It's Ensign Pillsbury, Jim. He's bread.
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From: MARK RICHARDSON Number: 4279
To: ALL Date: 09/27/93 6:02p
Subj: WC2 Deluxe Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello all! I am looking for Wing Commander 2 Deluxe on CD-ROM for a good price.
Is anyone selling it? Thanks.
Mark
>> Mark
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From: MICHAEL KUTHNING Number: 4280
To: ROB PERELMAN Date: 09/26/93 11:09p
Subj: Re: FREE CATALOG Refer: NONE
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Hello Jeff!
I would like to receive a copy of your catalog.
Could you please mail it to:
Michael Kuthning
Fruehlingstrasse 82
27570 Bremerhaven
West-GERMANY
Thanks in advance...
.\\ichael
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From: ALEX MOTTRAM Number: 4281
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 7:42a
Subj: Sony CDU-31a Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone have the _REAL_ specs on this drive? One day I got a wild hair
up my butt to buy another CDrom drive for my BBS (already have a mitsumi on
another machine) and bought the Fusion CD-16 system at Wal-Mart (wanted a
16bit soundcard also, so it was sort of a deal).. The manuals, of course,
tell you nothing, and CD-Speed software tends to give varying results. I've
seen 130kb/s to 164kb/s using MPCWizard and the speed test on MegaDemo CD.
What I'm really interested in is the access time in ms.
Thanks,
Alex Mottram
##Mmr 2.46#.
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From: RICHARD JOHNSON Number: 4282
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 2:32p
Subj: Hitachi CDR3500 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for a used Hitachi CDR-3500. If you know where I can find one
please let me know. Thanks!
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From: CHRIS MASON Number: 4283
To: LAURIE BATT Date: 09/30/93 6:04a
Subj: DISCOUNT CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Why does your BBS echo all these messages again ???
-> I hope you are prepared to pay the excess phone bills for all those
-> international and national feeds.
-> In this packet alone I counted 64 messages retransmitted by your syst
-> Please check and fix your config.
->
-> Laurie
->
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Its fixed already. Geez never seen people get so upset about
a few dupe messages. Cry why don't ya.
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From: ROBERT POWELL Number: 4284
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/29/93 9:52p
Subj: Re: OS/2 CD-ROM SUPPORT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey, this is.... uh... different. There must be two people with the same name
on this BBS. I keep reading mail about CD-ROMs and other neato stuff that I
never wrote... veddy intelesting...
RLP
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From: NEIL BERGMAN Number: 4285
To: JEFF NEWMAN Date: 09/29/93 10:28a
Subj: Re: L.A. STRIPPERS CD-ROM Refer: NONE
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Sorry about the date....I should have said 1993....OPPS!!!
As far as interactive:
You can pick a girl to watch (with your mouse.)
Pick a song and a girl.
Watch the whole thing.
For full-motion video that's about state of the art!!
It's not a game...It's adult entertainment!
Thanks,
Neil Bergman
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From: JEFF PATTEN Number: 4286
To: MARLIN ROWLEY Date: 09/26/93 10:33a
Subj: Double-spin needs for a game? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MR> Can anyone out there tell me what are the advantages of a double
MR> spin drive in regards to a single spin drive when you are
MR> talking about running full-motion video that is compressed
MR> and plays back at whatever frame rate? It seems to me that
MR> it wouldn't make a difference since the compression
MR> technique allows the CD-ROM (single spin) to playback frames
MR> at a reasonable speed using a data transfer rate of 150k
MR> bytes/sec. With a 300k byte/sec drive wouldn't it still run
MR> frame rates at the same speed? What is the difference
What happens when you want to add sound? CD quality sound also uses 150
KB/sec, making it difficult to fit both video and audio in 150 KB/sec
bandwidth. Even with audio compression and/or less than CD quality, you still
need more than bandwidth, as the video uses the entire 150 KB/sec. The
alternative would be to cut video *and* audio quality, but that is less than
desirable.
Jeff
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From: JEFF PATTEN Number: 4287
To: TOM GUELKER Date: 09/28/93 12:32p
Subj: MiniDisc News Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SM>> Hope this gives you enough info on the MiniDisc state of things,
TG> Simon, so the new Nini Disc will hold less information than the
TG> current 5 1/4 CD? What is the advantage of this? Easier to
TG> carry in a pocket?
The question is why do they promote a new format when an existing one
already has essentially all the same capabilities? The 3.5" MO units already
have rewritable and read only (ala CD) formats, and I have heard mention of the
mixed media discs.
The main advantage seems to be that Sony will have total control of the
format, instead of having to share control (and royalties) with others. Sony
collects a royalty on *every* 3.5" floppy disk and drive made, they're just
trying to establish another gold mine...
Jeff
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From: ALEX STUART Number: 4288
To: BILL DENNISON Date: 09/29/93 7:27p
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
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=>**************** C D - R O M D R I V E P R I C E S *********
BO=>Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $799.00 Pioneer DMR604X Bare - $1199.
-> What does bare mean?
BD> 'BARE' means you get the drive itself, but no mounting
BD> case, rails, drivers, cables, software, etc...
I suspect in the case of the Pioneer DMR series (which are external drives
not in need of rails, etc.) that 'bare' means without a SCSII adaptor or
cable.
-- Alex.
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From: MIKE BLOODWORTH Number: 4289
To: MARTIN CROCKETT Date: 09/27/93 10:38p
Subj: CDROM's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Martin, have you found glitches with the new CDROM drivers & QEMM ?
I'm having trouble with the newer CDROM by Mitisu' which is somewhat faster
than the earlier ones. It's OK with MSDOS6 and the HARDWARE drivers but can
lock up the PC on odd occasions when the Software drivers are used (MSCDEX).
Also with DRDOS the MSCDEX wont work if loaded high and it a sizable file
..seems to loadhi OK with MSDOS6 & the same QEMM config.
Please forward a reply on the NETMAIL echo as I don't have the room on my
hard disk to turn this one on for my point. (3:8530/7)
Cheer's Mike!
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From: ANDREW LARMOUR Number: 4290
To: ALL Date: 09/27/93 10:54p
Subj: Photo-CD in Aust Refer: NONE
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I work in a lab which is offering photo-cd services
F16 1 Hour Photo,
688 Glenferrie Rd
Hawthorn Vic, 3122
(03) 818-2600
and the service is available via selected Kodak Express labs at varying prices
depending on what type of transfer service you need:
Develop, print and transfer 12exp $39.95 disc incl 7 days
(E6 process & transfer) 24exp $49.95
36exp $67.95 (New price)
Standard transfer min 20 exp $2.25 per frame $12 for disc 7 days
Selective transfer min 20 exp $3.00 per frame $12 for disc 7 days
Special transfer min 20 exp $5.00 per frame $12 for disc 10 days
Shoebox transfer min 65 exp $1.50 per frame disc inlc 15 days
(Introductory offer) max 100 exp
Duplicate Photo-CD min 20 exp $1.50 per image $12 for disc 7 days
-- A photo-cd will hold a maximum of approx 100 images.
-- Service times quoted are lab to lab in calender days.
-- Service times to NT and remote areas of Aust are 14 calender days for all
services.
-- Standard transfer is every exposure transfered. All exposures must be of
the same type (ie. all negs or all slides)
-- Selective transfer is selected exposures transfered, not in any
guaranteed order. All exposures must be of the same type.
-- Special transfer is selected slides or negs in a specified order.
-- Negs or slides in strips less than 3 will be mounted @ 75cents each.
-- Thermal prints up to 8"x10" are also available.
-- Photo-CD is only available on 35mm negs or slides. (at this stage)
In order to do anything other than just view these images, you will need a
fairly powerful machine, Kodak recommend a min of 386SX25, 8Mb RAM, 40Mb free
HD space (100Mb prefered), 24bit graphics card and monitor. The files
themselves are 18Mb in size at full (16Base) resolution and are compressed with
JPEG formulae to around 4.5Mb to 6Mb in size. Each image is stored a 5
different resolutions:
128x192 (Base/16) 'thumbnail'
256x384 (Base/4) Displaying multiple images on the screen 512x768
(Base) TV quality
1024x1536 (4Base) HDTV quality
2048x3072 (16Base) for printing and high quality image manipulation.
This is for the general information for anyone interested. Currently Kodak
lists the following CD-ROM drives as Photo-CD compatable (for PC systems):
- Single Session - Multi Session
Chinnon CDX435 Mitsumi CRMC LU005s(int)
Texel DM3024(int) Gen STAR 5000i(int)
Texel DM5024(ext) Sony CDU31a(int)
Toshiba TXM3301B(int) Sony CDU561
Toshiba TXM3301E1(ext) Toshiba TXM3301BSP(int)
NEC CDR-73(int) Toshiba TXM3301E1P(ext)
NEC CDR-83(ext) Toshiba TXM3401 E1P1000(int/ext)
NEC CDR-36M(ext) Pioneer DRM 604X/600(ext)
NEC CDR-37(int) Procom PiCDS(int)
NEC CDR-74(ext) Procom PxCDS(ext)
NEC CDR-84(int) Panasonic CR562
NEC CDR-25 NEC CDR-38
Sony CDU535(int) NEC CDR-74-1
Sony CDU6205(ext) NEC CDR-84-1
Sony CDU541(int) Texel DM-302X(int)
Sony CDU6211 Texel DM-502(ext)
Sony CDU7211 Texel T-3401
IBM CDROM Model 2 Texel DM-3024
Laser Magnetic CM205 Texel DM-5024
Panasonic CR-531 PLI CDROM MS
Chinnon CDX-535
Smart & Friendly PCD-700
Smart & Friendly PCD-2200
Sony CDU7305
Pioneer DRM-604X
The recommended minimum configuration to access "BASE x 16" images (the highest
resn. images stored in the .pcd file) is:
- 486 processor
- 20Mb RAM
- 25Mb free HD space
- DOS 3.3 or later
- Windows 3.0 or later
- 16.8 Million colour card (24 Bit)(Optional)
- S-VGA or higher monitor (Optional)
Its just as frightening if you're a Mac user. To access "BASE x 16" images,
the minimum recommended configuration is:
- Mac IIci processor
- 32Mb RAM
- 30Mb free HD space
- System 6.0.5 or later
The CD-ROM drives which Kodak list as being Photo-CD compatable for the Mac's
are:
- Single Session - Multi Session
Apple SC Plus (ext) Apple CD300 (int/ext)
Apple CD150 (ext) Toshiba 3301BSM30Z0 (int)
NEC CDR-73 (ext) Toshiba 3301E1m30Z0 (ext)
NEC CDR-83 (int) PLI CD-ROM MS
NEC CDR-37 (ext) NEC CDR-74-1
NEC CDR-74 (ext) NEC CDR-84-1
NEC CDR-84 (int) Toshiba XM-3301 BK Drive
Sony CDU-541 (int) Pioneer DRM-604X Minichanger
Sony CDU-6211 (ext) Sony CDU-561
Sony CDU-7211 (ext) Phillips CDD-461 Audio
Smart & Friendly PCD2200-MAC
This is by no means a complete listing, but if you know of any drive which is
single or multi session compatable and I havent listed it, please mail me....
In my opinion, the introductory offer is the way to go if you can get that many
images together. Also, if you transfer 100 images in one hit, then the disc
will only have a single session on it and will therefore be readable by all
those XA single session drives and some non-XA drives.
If you have any further questions regarding Photo-CD,
ProPhoto-CD, Photo-CD players or other related topics, please mail me....
Andrew Larmour
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From: ANDREW LARMOUR Number: 4291
To: ALL Date: 09/27/93 10:54p
Subj: Photo-CD in Aust Refer: NONE
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From: TERRY MENZIES Number: 4292
To: DON PUGH Date: 09/26/93 9:36a
Subj: Aussi CD-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Don Pugh to All Australian Cdroms <=-
DP> We Offer Dealers Prices For Sales of 5 or More Disks
DP> Mix as you like. Most disks in stock.
DP> WALNUT CREEK SERIES (Available Now)
DP> Gifs Galore $25.00
DP> Simtel latest $25.00
DP> Windows April, 1993 $22.00
DP> HOBBES OS/2 $25.00
DP> Amiga Aminet $25.00 (out of stock)
DP> Libris Britannica Vol. II $65.00
DP> C Programmers Users Group $40.00
Interesting, Are these prices your 5 up prices?
If so, what price for 1 offs?
TM.
... File not found, I'll load something *I* think is interesting.
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4293
To: ALAN WHITEMORE Date: 09/29/93 7:35p
Subj: panasonic 562b Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Alan!
On 09-26-93 Alan Whitemore wrote to Rowan Evans...
AW> RE> The plot thickens.... I would have expected multimedia
AW> RE> sound to have come off the CD-ROM, into memory and then
AW> RE> been passed to the sound card via the Windows MM drivers....
AW>
AW> What you expected is what is happening <sheepish grin>
AW>
AW> AW>> I have a cable running from the external red & white connectors
AW> AW>> on the CD-ROM interface card to the line-in on the SB mono. This
AW> AW>> cable appears to provide the audio - from MM apps NOT audio
AW> AW>> CD's ;-), and if I unplug that cable whilst the MM app is running,
AW> AW>> the sound is abruptly cut off. This was my basic test to prove
AW> AW>> that the line-in wasn't just for recording purposes as had been
AW> AW>> suggested.
AW>
AW> RE> Hmmm.... Curiouser and curiouser said Alice.... <g>..... The red
AW> RE> & white connectors on the CD-ROM i/f card come from audio out at
AW> RE> the back of the CD-ROM... This is where sound comes from for an
AW> RE> audio CD! I'm starting to want my old SB 2.0 back, just for some
AW> RE> testing! <g>
AW>
AW> I'm guilty of giving out misinformation. I've tested it again, and
AW> disconnecting the red and white connectors whilst MM sound is playing
AW> has no effect. The only excuse I can possibly offer is that during my
AW> previous experimentation, I may have inadvertently disconnected the SB
AW> line-out to stereo cable instead. Sorry.
No worries! So we're back to the story that an SB 2.0 will play multimedia
sound, but cannot, due to the lack of an internal mixer, allow a user to
hear audio CDs, even if the headphone jack of the CD-ROM player is
connected to line-in on the SB 2.0.....
Nice to have that one sorted out!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4294
To: TERRY MENZIES Date: 09/29/93 7:43p
Subj: Re: CR562B CD-ROM Drive. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Terry!
On 09-24-93 Terry Menzies wrote to ROWAN EVANS...
TM> I contacted a guy the other day in response to an magazine add
TM> for an Panasonic CD-Rom Drive for $AUS399.95
TM>
TM> I called him for specs etc and they follow......
TM>
TM> Panasonic 562
TM> Internal
TM> Double speed
TM> Kodak Multi Session
TM> Transfer rate=300kb/s
TM> Access time=320 ms
TM> 680-690 capacity
TM>
TM> Note that he called it **562**, Would those specs fit the Cr-562-b?
TM> The Drive requires an $50 controller card to work with the SB-Pro,
TM> or it will work via direct CD-Drive -> Amplifier if no SB is there.
Panasonic's brochure calls it a CR562 series, their manual for the drive
calls it a CR562B.... The spex you have stated are exactly the same as
those for the CR562B, so I'd guess he's just being lazy! As to requiring
an additional card to work with the SB Pro/16/16 ASP.... that's bullsh*t...
the CR562B will attach directly to the SB Pro/16/16 ASP... What it *DOES*
require is a $A50.00 "controller" if you *DON'T* have an SB Pro/16/16 ASP!
Ask the dealer again whether it is a CR562B.....
TM> I have one of the SB V2 mono cards in my system.
Well, you'll hear multimedia sounds via the SB 2.0, but see my post to
Alan Whitemore re SB 2.0 and audio CDs!
Cheers!
o
/U\
TM> TM. :)
TM>
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TM>
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TM>
TM>
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4295
To: ANDREW SEE Date: 09/29/93 7:49p
Subj: SBPro, does it have a li Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Andrew!
On 09-26-93 Andrew See wrote to ROWAN EVANS...
AS> RE> Plus I've benchmarked the SB Pro 2/CR562B combo to within 1% or so
AS> RE> of the speed when the CR562B is attached to the SB 16 ASP, which is
AS> RE> the fastest sound card/CD-ROM combo I've seen to date.....
AS>
AS> The newer Pioneer 6 changer has a quad speed transfer rate. 600 kb/s
Note I typed "I've seen to date".... No ones yet lent me a DRM-604X to
try. Its also a far cry from the cost of the CR562B!
AS> The Toshiba drive has a seek time of 200 ms.
Granted.... Nor have I seen a Toshiba CD-ROM drive....
AS> The panasonic drive has 300kb/s and 320-350 ms access.
True!
AS> Would you agree that both are faster than Panasonic drive?
I'll agree that these drives spec out better than the CR562B... What are
they like in the real world?
AS> There is however a faster Panasonic drive, soon to be released, it is
AS> a caddy job giving it a better seek time (280ms) and SCSI2.
AS> Still same transfer rate though.
Poe Lim suggested that the CR533 (the caddy drive) will have 330Kbps tfr
rate.... He did say, though, that he believed that it would cost
approximately the same as the Texel SCSI CD-ROM drive.... That's around
*TWICE* the price of the CR562B!
AS> Also CL are releasing a SB16 soon with a SCSI port built in.
I'll keep an eye out for it....
Cheers!
o
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From: DAVID POMEROY Number: 4296
To: TIM WENAS Date: 09/29/93 6:35a
Subj: cd-rom users group Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
HI Tim! Thanks for your mail. I'll email you once I've got some more
groundwork in place for the club - there's been a lot of local interest, so it
looks like we'll probably be getting one underway!
*
All the best,
DAvid POmeroy.
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From: PETER LYNCH Number: 4297
To: ALL Date: 09/28/93 11:24p
Subj: cd rom tandy driver Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
A friend of mine needs a driver for an externial tandy cd rom drive.
If you can help call peter on 5695459
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From: DAVID BENFELL Number: 4298
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/29/93 8:00p
Subj: SPECIAL CD-ROM PRICES!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> These are just a few examples of our low prices...We have over 300
-> titles in stock.
Hi Neil.
I am a CD-ROM distribtuor in New Zealand.
Can you send me a catalogue at 3:771/350 or post (preferable) to
PC Junction (NZ)
P.O Box 5197
Wellington
New Zealand
Cheers
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From: DAVID BENFELL Number: 4299
To: RUSSELL HARDIE Date: 09/29/93 9:39p
Subj: CD-ROM Analyzor Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> A while ago (like mid July), you posted this message showing % of
-> duplicates between popular CD-ROMs. You used a program you refer to
-> as "CD-ROM DUPLIATE ANALYZOR". I would love to get hold of a copy of
-> this - do you know any BBS (preferable v32bis) which has it online,
-> and the file name? Better still, do you know if it is on any
-> shareware CD-ROMs? (I have Night Owl 7&9, Pier 1&2, So Much
-> Shareware 2&3, Software Vault II&Gold, Monster Disc II, Shareware
-> Studio II)
Russell.
The program you are after is under the filename CDDA10.ZIP on the
Software Vault Gold CD-ROM under Directory #35 (BBS Programs and Utils).
Hope this is what you're after.
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From: VICKI CRAWFORD Number: 4300
To: DAVID POMEROY Date: 09/28/93 8:40a
Subj: cd-rom club Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a msg on <Sep 16, 1993>, David Pomeroy wrote to All:
DP> Hi! Is anyone there interested in joining a New Zealand or
DP> possibly Australasian CD-ROM users group..... I'm very tempted to
DP> set one up, as it is badly needed for us down under users.
There is already one going in Australia.
Details from
Stephen Ranson
Australian CD-ROM Club
Phone (06) 2915258, Fax (06)2914591
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From: POE LIM Number: 4301
To: ALL Date: 09/30/93 1:08a
Subj: Transfer rates (Panasonic CR-562B vs Toshiba 3401) Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
There has been some talk of the AT bus interface CD-ROM drives having faster
transfer rates than the SCSI bus drives, whereas I believe that to not be tha
case. This comparison was done to test my hypothesis.
Constants:
Tested on an i486DX2-66, running a Seagate ST11200 Fast SCSI-2 HD in
synchronour mode, 700Mb partition formatted HPFS running under OS/2 2.1,
CMD.EXE boot (no WPS). Drivers used were the drivers as shipped with OS/2 2.1
for the SCSI unit, and the SoundBlaster drivers (SBCD2.ADD date 8 May 1993).
Files seleted were from the 001A directory of the Night Owl 9 CD ROM, totalling
35,048Kb, to keep the area of file on the CD-ROM constant. Transfer was
manually timed, and copy was done with a batch file, 2 test passes on each
drive, alternating the drives, and an initial run carried out to fill any cache
that may exist as well as to give an idea of time taken. The files were deleted
from the HD after each transfer. The above was done to keep conditions as
constant as possible (and OS/2 was not in multi-tasking mode).
Panasonic CR-562B Toshiba 3401
Pass 1 2 min 39 sec 2 min 26 sec
Pass 2 2 min 39 sec 2 min 25 sec
The time was rounded to the nearest second, and there will be some overhead for
the command processor as well as the HD.
It would appear that the Toshiba is about 9.3% faster than the Panasonic; when
the various overheads involved is taken into account (a possible cause of a
transfer rate of approx 240Kb/sec for the Toshiba, a lot less then the rate
330Kb/sec), it is close to the expected 10% faster spec rate of the Toshiba
over the Panasonic.
In conclusion, there are probably not much difference between the two interface
for the *same rated transfer rate*, but there exist faster SCSI units (and more
expensive too) than the AT bus.
Side not; the Panasonic initially had problems with the tray due to the motor
and laser transport coming loose in transit, and obstruting the tray (noted
also was the abundance of flexible plastic, and the poorer enclosure which may
not be as dust proof).
Cheers,
Poe
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From: LAURIE BATT Number: 4302
To: TERRY MENZIES Date: 09/28/93 9:52a
Subj: Re: CR562B CD-ROM Drive.. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
G'day Terry, In a message on <Sep 24>, you said :
TM> Note that he called it **562**, Would those specs
TM> fit the Cr-562-b? The Drive requires an $50
TM> controller card to work with the SB-Pro, or it will
I would imagine that it requires the controller card to work WITHOUT the Sbpro.
The Sbpro has its own on board interface to the CDrom so you will not need
another controller.
Laurie
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From: DALE A COOK Number: 4303
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 8:14p
Subj: BLOKIT INOVATIONS? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* Original Area: COMM
* Original To : All (1:365/3253)
Has ANYONE ever heard of a shareware outfit called "BLOKIT INOVATIONS"?
ADDRESS? PHONE NUMBERS? BBS NUMBERS?
tHANX!
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From: DAVID SILVER Number: 4304
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 10:14p
Subj: What do I Need ? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking into getting a CD-ROM sometime in the near future. What will I
need as far as system hardware to get the most out of a CD-ROM?
I now have a 486sx/25 with a Sound Blaster. Will the CD-Rom plug into an
expansion slot? I plan to get an internal (I have an empty space in front of
my computer for one)
Also, Any advice on what is good? I don't want to go overboard on price,
however.
Thanks,
David
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From: DAVID ROBERTS Number: 4305
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/29/93 6:22p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Duplicate Anal Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
RH>I recently saw someone post a message which was a duplicate files table
MS> betwe
RH>many popular CD-ROMs.
RH>It used a program referred to as "Bob Neal's CD-ROM Duplicate Analyzer v1.
RH>Does anyone know the filename of that program? I would love to get hold o
MS> i
MS> That was my list. You can download the program from our BBS @
MS> 509-457-0206. Good little utility!
Hey Mike, could you give us a filename so we could freq it?
... Crime wouldn't pay if the government ran it.
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From: MIKE KELLEY Number: 4306
To: CHRIS SNYDER Date: 09/30/93 12:33p
Subj: windows or dos Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CS>Is it better to run a game, for example King's Quest VI, in dos or
>windows, if you are wanting the best sound and graphics?
In this game the windows version is clearly the winner. Graphics are
much better at 256 colors and the multimedia extensions give excellent
sound.
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From: MIKE KELLEY Number: 4307
To: KEN GRZEGOREK Date: 09/30/93 12:35p
Subj: Re: 7TH GUEST Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
KG>NH>Brian-
>NH>I'm about to purchase a 486/50v system and will probably
>NH>get a CD-ROM with t
>NH>deal. I'm into entertainment programs, and would like a little info on 7
>NH>Guest. All I know right now is that it utilizes a 16-
>NH>bit sound-card! Pleas
KG>Excuse me for jumping in, but.....I have a few things to say about The
>Seventh Guest. The game is great if you like puzzles. The problem is
>that it you have to reconfigure your system and it still might not work
>right. I bought a 16 bit Double spin CD-rom with a 16 bit sound card.
>Installed it on my sons 486dx2-66 and it wouldn't run. Reconfigured the
>system, and it ran half way through. I then called Virgin Software and
>told then of this problem. They basically said "Sorry about your
>luck.". There were two other people at work that purchased the the game
>and had the same problems. Do as you wish, but I wouldn't spend the
>money for the game. It just happened to come with a sofware bundle when
>I purchased the CD.
Would you be willing to trade or sell it?
Give Mike a call at 504-522-1763 or 504-524-4535
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From: WILLIAM FERNANDEZ Number: 4308
To: RANDY WHITE Date: 09/29/93 1:33a
Subj: Cd Kits Prices <Aust>e Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
╒═[ From: RANDY WHITE ]══════════════════[ To: WILLIAM FERNANDEZ ]═╕
│ RW>I'm looking for this new drive, where did you get such a │
│ great deal, any info RW>on the drive's performance would also │
│ help. I have the SbPro2 and the old cd RW>drive it came with.. │
│ Thanks │
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Well I know a gentleman at Insight, so I got a reduced price, but It
should only run you $20-$40 more.
Here are the specs: 320ms access time, 300kb/s transfer rate.
The number for INSIGHT is in any computer magazine, I'm sorry I
don't have the number here, but if you can't find it anywhere, send
me a message and I'll find the number for you.
-\\ILL-
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4309
To: KURT EASTABROOKS Date: 09/30/93 2:51a
Subj: Re: SOUNDBLASTER CD-ROM DRIVE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Yep, the new Panasonic 562b internal for $249.00 !
>> Intertested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 and we'll be happy
>> to
>> assist you further.
>> Boris,
>> does the panasonic 562b allow multiple drives off of one card?
>> I have 3 alder Hitachi's that are finially giving up the ghost
>> ands will be looking to replace them with stackable internals.
Kurt, you can dasiy chain up to 4 off the same controller.
For the price and what these unit's offer, thier hard to beat.
In fact, thier selling so well, we've been placed on allocation.
If you need further assitance with the above drive or anyother drive
for that matter, please feel free to give us a call and we'll be happy
to assist you further.
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4310
To: DON BOSMAN Date: 09/30/93 2:51a
Subj: Re: Do you have & how much Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> I am looking to buy a copy of "The Constitutional Papers"
>> Publisher Johnson & Company, Electronic Publishers and
>> Consultants
Price - $30.00
>> I am interested in a review and price for "Video Hound
>> Multimedia"
Are you sure about this title ??
Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime 7 days a week and
we'll be happy to assist you further.
Boris Osadciw
... If you're not the lead dog, the view can be very interesting!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4311
To: BRIAN ELFERT Date: 09/30/93 2:51a
Subj: Re: Drives that read 697 megs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> I am looking for a SCSI CD-ROM drive that will read ALL of the
>> files on Storm #1. It has 697 megs on it. My Chinon 435
>> drives will not read all of the disk.
>> If you have a drive and have tested it with Storm I, please
>> tell me. (Has anyone tried it with a Texel DM 3024 or 3028?)
>> P.S. I'm also looking for the names of some good, very new
>> Adult CDs as an alternative to spending $300 - $400 on a new
>> drive.
We can help you with all of the above Brian. Interested, give us a call
at 216-225-3263 anytime 7 days a week and we'll be happy to assist you
further.
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4312
To: CHRIS WISE Date: 09/30/93 2:51a
Subj: Re: looking for the Res/busin Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Looking for the Prophone Residential/Business CD rom if you
>> have it (either 3 or 7 then let me know)....
Lee, we have the Business version for $25. ! Interested, give us
a call at 216-225-3263 anytime 7 days a week and we'll be happy to
assist you further.
We also carry the Phone Disk USA Residential/Business.
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4313
To: ALL Date: 09/30/93 2:51a
Subj: CDROM SPECIALS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
**************** C D - R O M D R I V E P R I C E S ****************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit - $359.00 Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00 - SCSI
Panasonic 562 Int Kit - $249.00 Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SCSI
Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $799.00 Pioneer DMR604X Bare - $1199. -SCSI
Texel Int 245ms Bare Dr - $369.00 Texel Ext 245ms Bare - $469.00 -SCSI
Texel Int Complete Kit - $469.00 Texel Ext Complete - $569.00 -SCSI
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare - $399.00 Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare- $499.00 -SCSI
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit - $195.00 Mitsumi w/Sound Card - $325.00 -PRPR
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. / Windows v1. $50. ALL ChestNuts CD's $11.00ec
ORDER'S ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
... I married the Mail Lady!
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From: BILL JONES Number: 4314
To: PAT RICKERSON Date: 09/29/93 6:26p
Subj: Re: CD'S Refer: NONE
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Glad they got to you ok Pat, don't have any more right now but I
might a a couple of weeks.
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From: VINCE SORENSEN Number: 4315
To: BOB JENKINS Date: 09/29/93 6:48p
Subj: RE: CATALOGUE Refer: NONE
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-> Hello Vince. I called your company a few weeks back (voice) to
-> request a catalogue. It has not arrived, probably due to our
-> wonderful mail service...could you please try again. My address in
-> below. Thank you.
Hi Bob!
You got that right - we did a bulk mailing and had 40 catalogs
returned for "insufficient postage". The only problem was that we paid
for them, and the post office "bulk machine" was supposed to apply the
markings that indicated that. There was no way of proving that those
letters were part of the bulk mailing, so we would have had to pay for
them again. We have a new catalog coming out within 3 days, so we
decided to hold those 40 (of which you were one) until it was ready.
We're really hoping this new catalog is worth the wait.
Thanks for your patience and understanding,
Vince
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From: STEAN SNYMAN Number: 4316
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/24/93 4:02p
Subj: SPECIAL CD-ROM PRICES!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello NEIL!
Monday September 20 1993, NEIL BERGMAN writes to ALL:
NB> TOO MANY MORE TO LIST!!!
NB> FOR A COMPLETE CATALOG,
NB> LEAVE E-mail ADDRESS OR
NB> POSTAL ADDRESS!!!!
Yo! Here please.. 5:7102/114.. Thanks..
CU
Stean
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From: STEAN SNYMAN Number: 4317
To: CHRIS DONNEGAN Date: 09/24/93 4:04p
Subj: PANASONIC CD NO MORE Refer: NONE
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Hello Chris!
Tuesday September 21 1993, Chris Donnegan writes to All:
CD> Has anyone else heard this?
Nope.. If this is the case I'm KILLING my dealer tomorrow.... [g]
CU
Stean
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4318
To: GUY R. LANNEWEHR Date: 09/30/93 1:24a
Subj: National telephone direct Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GRL>The prices sound pretty reasonable. Are these disks updated every year,
and
GRL>if so, what are the prices on upgrades?
Yes they are, but I haven't heard what the upgrade price will be yet. If
you wait a month or so however, you can usually buy the new release from
me for less than the upgrade price!
Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4319
To: ALL Date: 09/30/93 1:24a
Subj: PIER 3 NOW SHIPPING! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
| Title: PIER 3 Price: $39 |
* 628mb total * Separate <ASP> directory. * 100% files dated 1993
* All files virus-scanned * FILES.BBS Support * < 1% dupes to 1 & 2
* Most current files on the market. Over 70% dated AFTER 6/93!
2-CD SET: Pier 2 and 3...................(less than 1% dupes!)....$59
3-CD SET: Pier 1, 2, and 3...............(less than 1% dupes!)....$75
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4320
To: ALL Date: 09/30/93 1:25a
Subj: Just a few more titles... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hacker Chronicles.............26.00 Stellar 7.....................19.50
Hobbes OS/2...................16.00 Street Atlas USA v2 (New!)....95.00
Mac Multimedia Space (New!)...39.00 VGA Spectrum 2................21.00
Mac Shareware (New!)..........24.00 Visions of Saturn.............23.00
Microsoft Bookshelf 1993 MPC..58.00 World View....................24.00
Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00 World Vision 3-Pak............45.00
Microsoft Golf MPC (New!).....58.00 Wrath of the Demon............29.00
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)
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From: JANUSZ SUROWKA Number: 4321
To: ANDRE QUEREE Date: 09/30/93 2:30p
Subj: 16 bit cards Refer: NONE
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yeah ok.... whatever, L8tr
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From: OKTAVIAN FLORYSIAK Number: 4322
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 5:57p
Subj: Wanted All Music Cd! Refer: NONE
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Where can i get a good music cd with mods, 669s, s3ms, etc.???
Prefrebly techno type but can be anything! More then one would be
good too!
Thanks In Advance!
... Catch the Blue Wave!
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From: REIJER GRISNIGT Number: 4323
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/21/93 10:44p
Subj: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
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Hello Adrian!
Answering a msg of <Thursday September 16 1993>, from Adrian Salas to All:
This is my adress for your catalog:
R.A. Grisnigt
Bosweg 5
NL 6721 HM Bennekom
The Netherlands
Reijer
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From: ADAM EDWARDS Number: 4324
To: ERIC HSIAO Date: 09/20/93 12:40p
Subj: Explain Sound Cards To Me Refer: NONE
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Hi,
EH> Actually, the PAS-16 can be had for around $150, and it does both 16-bit
EH> playback and SAMPLING, something that's extra on the GUS. Didn't they
EH> promise that 16-bit sampling daughterboard last Christmas...It's now alm
EH> Christmas '93 and I still don't see it anywhere. You can also get the
EH> Logitech Soundman 16 for $130 at Babbages, the same price of the GUS. I
EH> don't know where you got that $250 price for other cards with 16-bit
EH> capabilities...you must be talking Australian dollars or something. Get
EH> facts straight and stop posting bias messages.
Excuse me, I resent the fact that you accuse me of being bias, as I ahve
probably owned or used more sound cards than you can shake a stick at, I
consider my opinion to be just as valid as the next guy.
Especially when I am recommending a sound card on it's merits and
price/quality ratio.
Sure for 16bit recording a SB16 or PAS16 or Logitech16 or NXpro16 will
be a better bet, at a higher price, but a GUS will still PLAY 16bit
sound with the best of them, you just need the 16bit daughter card
upgrade to have the same level for recording.
As to playing MIDI music, a GUS will compare very favourably to all of
the above cards. Which was the original gist of my message. I'm sorry if
you got the wrong end of the stick but thats the nature of this medium
eh?
The prices I quoted were for playing MIDI music, and were refering to a
SB16ASP+WB or Roland Synth, or PAS16XL.
And please don't go accusing where you have no right.
Later
Adam
London, UK
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From: NICHOLAS GOLDWYN Number: 4325
To: ROBERT STEPHENS Date: 09/17/93 6:17p
Subj: Os/2 And Soundblaster Pro Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Robert Stephens to SIMON COGGINS <=-
SC> > I've got OS/2 2.1, MultiMedia Program Manager with
SC> > SoundBlaster Pro set up and
SC> > working fine, but i can't get the SoundBlaster CD-ROM
SC> > working!!
SC> > extensions driver from!! mscdex
SC> > won't work. it comes up with incorrect dos version.
SC>
SC> In the manual i received with my drive it told me to load
SC> SETVER.EXE if you have a lower version of than MS-DOS6. So in you
SC> can run SETVER.EXE as you boot up OS/2 it might work.. Or find a
SC> program that does the same thing..
RS> In OS/2 you change this in the DOS SETTINGS -> DOS_VERSION you would
RS> put something like this to set the version to DOS 5...
RS> MSCDEX.EXE,5,00,255
No, this won't work. MSCDEX will not function with OS/2. The OS/2 CDROM
device driver takes over all relevant functions. I suspect you need the
OS/2 version of the SoundBlaster driver - available from the manufacturers.
From what you mentioned, you are trying to load the DOS version of the driver
in your OS/2 config.sys. This is the root cause of your difficulties, I
suspect. I think the OS/2 version is called something like SBPCD2.sys.
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From: STEAN SNYMAN Number: 4326
To: SIMON MACKAY Date: 09/26/93 9:43a
Subj: Pioneer CD magazines Refer: NONE
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Hello Simon!
Saturday September 18 1993, Simon Mackay writes to All:
SM> I hope this helps anyone out with searching for magazines for their
SM> Pioneer CD-ROM changers.
Here they go for 'bout R60 which is about $16US.. What'll that be AUD$?
CU
Stean
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From: JELDERT GRAAFSMA Number: 4327
To: BRIAN RYCHLICKI Date: 09/22/93 7:21p
Subj: Re: Panasonic cd562-b / sbpro Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Brian Rychlicki to All <=-
BR> I just spent about three hours with a dealer trying to install a
BR> CD562B onto my system which is a 386DX40, coProcessor, 8 Meg of Ram,
BR> and a Sound Blaster Pro. No luck reading disks.
BR> The hardware installation went very quick since "they" say that it
BR> plugs directly into the SBPRO. We then installed the audio cable into
BR> the SBPro. The Drive number was set to "0" on the 562B. The
BR> installation disk supplied was a COMPRO disk which appeared to be very
BR> quick and simple by selecting the 562B drive with the SBPRO. After
BR> following all of the instructions, we re-booted the system, the
BR> autoexec.bat and config.sys appeared to be ok the information on the
BR> CDROM appeared to be ok allocating it as Drive D, the busy light on
BR> the CDROM went on and the rest of the configuring continued. We then
BR> tried to access the CDROM and this is where the problem occurred, -
BR> NOTHING -, no access, no busy light on the CDROM drive, nothing. This
BR> basically is the problem, it will not access the drive. We even
BR> installed another drive, same type, and the same problem. Tried
BR> changing the connector cable around on the SBPRO, nothing. The Disk
BR> was placed properly on the platter. The SBPRO manual is very vague
BR> with no troubleshooting hints. It does mention that a 521c drive can
BR> be installed.
BR> The dealer said it could be my motherboard, which I doubt.
...
I've got the same CD-ROM drive connected to a SB-Pro, but when I bought it
there where no box and disks supplied, so I downloaded MSCDEX 2.21 and
SBCD.sys 4.10 from a BBS and had exactly the same problem as you have.
I spent weeks messing about with it, changing everything unil I came up
with the smart idea of redownloading the software... and it worked!!! (and
still does). My harddisk seemed to have messed up my software.
BTW. My parameters of the software are:
config.sys:
device=c:\sbcd.sys /d:mscd000 /p:220
Where /d: is the drive's name
and /p: is the SB's adress.
Autoexec.bat:
c:\mscdex /v /d:mscd000 /m:20 /e /l:d
explanation:
/v =show memory usage
/d: =drive name (must be the same as in sbcd.sys)
/m: =number of buffers
/e =use extended memory
/l =drive letter to use
I hope this can help you and if things work, can you tell me if the ampli-
fier of the SB makes strange noises while accessing the CD?
Greetz,
Jeldert Graafsma
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From: GERARD KONNING Number: 4328
To: TON ZWERUS Date: 09/23/93 8:48a
Subj: 66 mhz en frontdoor Refer: NONE
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* Forwarded from area 'MODEM.R28'
Dag Ton, je schreef:
-> Hoi Gerard, ik draai FD en een tornado III modem op/met een 486-66Mhz
-> zonder problemen, dus of het dan aan je computer ligt, denk ik niet.
AHA, een medegebruiker... Ik heb het 5 dagen met een Supra geprobeerd
en dat werkte perfect. Nu blijkt dus de init string niet goed geweest te
zijn (je mag geen &W aan het eind gebruiken). Ik heb mijn Tornado sinds
vandaag weer terug en hoop dus dat het beter gaat...
-> Hoop dat je er aan hebt, Groetjes <<Ton>>.
Tuurlijk, alleen zou het mooi zijn als je me jou init string (FrontDoor)
zou kunnen geven. Verder bedankt voor je reactie.
Groetjes, Gerard
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From: TON ZWERUS Number: 4329
To: GERARD KONNING Date: 09/25/93 9:26a
Subj: 66 mhz en frontdoor Refer: NONE
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GK=> * Forwarded from area 'MODEM.R28'
GK=>Dag Ton, je schreef:
GK=>-> Hoi Gerard, ik draai FD en een tornado III modem op/met een 486-66Mhz
GK=>-> zonder problemen, dus of het dan aan je computer ligt, denk ik niet.
GK=>AHA, een medegebruiker... Ik heb het 5 dagen met een Supra
GK=>geprobeerd
GK=>en dat werkte perfect. Nu blijkt dus de init string niet
GK=>goed geweest te
GK=>zijn (je mag geen &W aan het eind gebruiken). Ik heb mijn
GK=>Tornado sinds
GK=>vandaag weer terug en hoop dus dat het beter gaat...
GK=>-> Hoop dat je er aan hebt, Groetjes <<Ton>>.
GK=>Tuurlijk, alleen zou het mooi zijn als je me jou init string
GK=>(FrontDoor)
GK=>zou kunnen geven. Verder bedankt voor je reactie.
Mijn init string in FD:
ATH0 S0=0 M1 \Q3|
Groetjes <<Ton>>.
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From: STEPHEN GUPTON Number: 4330
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/29/93 10:19a
Subj: Mitsumi and DOS 6.0? Refer: NONE
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In a msg on <Sep2910:19, Gordon Peterson of 2:320/203 writes:
GP> I had one guy tell me that the Mitsumi drive has some kind of
GP> problem or special configuration required or something to run
GP> under MS-DOS 6.0. Anyone aware of this? Is he right? What's
GP> the scoop, guys?
Just use the MSCDEX.EXE that comes with DOS 6.O
-=Stephen=-
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From: SCOTT DAVIS Number: 4331
To: ERIC CASSIMATIS Date: 09/29/93 4:46p
Subj: MITSUMI CD ROM DRIVE; SO Refer: NONE
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EC>- It has an output jack in the front, with a volume control.
EC>- This CDROM does not have a SCSI device, but rather an 8-bit card with
EC>some dip switches, two sets of pins (irq and DMA), and a 40 (I think)
EC>pin flat-ribbon cable coming out of it
EC>- It, most importantly, doesn't have a caddie! You press the face of the
EC>CDROM, it clicks out and you then pull the remainder out, open the top
EC>up and plop the CD into the casing ....
EC>If this is so, please confirm - or ANYone else out there. I need to
EC>know, so that I can get the mitsumi drivers for OS2.1 .... otherwise I
EC>don't make the transition!
Sounds more like the LU-002S to me.. (Which I'm running under OS/2 2.1)..
l8r,
Scott
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From: SCOTT DAVIS Number: 4332
To: KEVIN DONALD Date: 09/29/93 4:46p
Subj: 16-BIT SOUND CARDS Refer: NONE
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KD>Stay away from SB-16 and PAS-16 and Soundman -16. They suck. Get Gravis
KD>Ultrasound. Sell your soundblaster...Gravis rulez...
I had a Gravis but traded it on a PAS-16.. The Gravis was SLOW in SB mode.. it
ate up processor cycles so bad, on a 386sx/25 w/6 megs of ram, I could NOT pla
Wing Commander unless I turned off SB support.. a problem I've never had with
any other card..
l8r,
Scott
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From: SCOTT DAVIS Number: 4333
To: DARIN CELINO Date: 09/29/93 4:46p
Subj: MITSUMI CD ROM Refer: NONE
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|SP> Hi All, |
|SP> Does anybody know if 2 Mitsumi cd roms can be daisy |
|SP> chained off a SOUND GALAXY NXPRO? |
DC>+--------------------------------------------------------------------------
DC>Yes I do Know......
DC>No they can't.....but why do you need both hooked up to the sound
DC>board?
Probably to save slots used by the controller cards..
l8r,
Scott
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From: SCOTT DAVIS Number: 4334
To: DARIN CELINO Date: 09/29/93 4:46p
Subj: MITSUMI CD-ROM AUDIO Refer: NONE
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|BF> -> connecting the drive to my sound card (a plain Sound Blaster) with |
|BF> |
|BF> Check you set blaster line in the autoexec.bat file. A lot of people |
|BF> dont realize the audio volumn is controlled there for the sound blaster|
|BF> card. Also, If you are using the patch cord that came with your sound |
|BF> blaster, make sure the little audio cable is installed on the back of |
|BF> the cd-rom drive and the interface card. |
DC>+--------------------------------------------------------------------------
DC>This is not so for the Sound Blaster.....the plain one.....unless
DC>there are some undocumented controls for them.
No in fact there is no way to control volume on the regular SB through
software.. the 2.0 may be an exception to this but I know the 1.0 and 1.5
can't..
l8r,
Scott
P.S.- The SBPro and above do however have software volume control..
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From: SCOTT DAVIS Number: 4335
To: ED BAILEY Date: 09/29/93 4:46p
Subj: MITSUMI LU005S DRIVE Refer: NONE
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EB> Does anyone know of a Driver for use with the Mitsumi, for use under
EB> OS2 Ver 2.1.
EB> There was a Sysop who claimed to have one and I did a File Request for
EB> it. It came from Germany and was for OS 2 Ver 2.0 and clearly said it
EB> wouldn't work with Ver 2.1, also it was a dated program, apparntly not
EB> working after a given date, which had already passed.
EB> I would appreciate the address of the commerical program out there and
EB> if possible a free/shareware release of such a driver availability.
EB> When possible I prefer to support the shareware authors.
EB> Thanks for any assistance.
For one thing, the driver you FREQed was the beta to the release of the German
driver.. the release version works fine with OS/2 2.1 and is not limited by
date.
l8r,
Scott
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From: SCOTT DAVIS Number: 4336
To: HAROLD BINGHAM Date: 09/29/93 4:47p
Subj: MITSUMI # CRMC Refer: NONE
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HB>With the Mitsumi CD-ROM model:crmc I have an 8 bit card and get bad
HB>performance with it . Can I use it on the SB16?
In a word, NO.. the SB cd-rom interface is totally different than the Mitsumi.
l8r,
Scott
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From: SCOTT DAVIS Number: 4337
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/29/93 4:47p
Subj: MITSUMI CD-ROM AUDIO Refer: NONE
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JW>I have just bought a Mitsumi CD-Rom drive Model LU005U, this is there
JW>latest High Speed Drive. I'm happy with it but am having trouble with
JW>the audio. I can get audio from the front mounted headphone jacks but by
JW>connecting the drive to my sound card (a plain Sound Blaster) with the
JW>cable that came with the sound card and then running the out put of the
JW>sound card to my stero amp, I don't get sound.
GP>Common problem. The socket on the SoundBlaster card is wired backwards.
GP>To work around the problem, use a pin or needle to carefully lift the
GP>locking tab on each of the terminals of the cable's connector, one at a
GP>time. Swap inner-to-outer wires on each side of the connector (so
GP>signal swaps with ground on each side). You'll find that everything
GP>works great.
Are you sure he means the 4 wire audio cable? It sounds to me like he wants to
run a Y cable from the RCA ports on the CD-Rom card to the Line In port on the
SB.. To my knowledge, none of the regular SB's have a CD-In.. that was added o
the SBPro and higher..
l8r,
Scott
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From: SCOTT DAVIS Number: 4338
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/29/93 4:47p
Subj: CADDY-O-RAMA Refer: NONE
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>Philips should have implemented CD:s with some sort of protective covering
BF>Could be, but that also is too late to change, 'till the "next generation"
BF>stuff gets out of the lab....
Apparently you two haven't noticed that CD's (And thus CD-Rom's) have a layer
plastic about 1/4 millimeter thick designed specifically to resist scratching
and stuff.. if you take descent care of the disc, the little nicks and scratch
normally won't affect it..
(If you don't take care of it, the BIG scratches ruin it..)
l8r,
Scott
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From: SCOTT DAVIS Number: 4339
To: ERIC CASSIMATIS Date: 09/29/93 4:47p
Subj: MITSUMI CD ROM DRIVE; SO Refer: NONE
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GM> Eric:
GM> The LU 005S has a 16 bit interface card. I think the Tandy drive is an
GM> older drive, same as LU 002? the physical description
GM> of the Tandy and the
GM> LU 005S are the same case types. I thinl that OS/2
GM> dravers are aviable but
GM> are third party commerical ($). I do not know of a
GM> source,keep reading the
GM> echo somebody will have a source. Gil
EC>Well, frankly I don't really care if I have to pay mnoney .... getting two
EC>SCSI CDRoms is a lot more money! In reference to the card, you recommend th
EC>"LU002S" driver, not the "xxx5S" version? Well, thank you very much for tha
EC>piece of information - it will help!
I have the German os/2 drivers and they work fine on both the LU-002S and
LU-005S.. I've also heard they perform well on the new LU-005U..
l8r,
Scott
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From: PETE BOUDREAU Number: 4340
To: ALL Date: 10/01/93 6:13a
Subj: CD-ROM CATALOGS Refer: NONE
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If you sell CD-ROMS please send a catalog to the following address:
Pete Boudreau
6841 Laronda Ln
Las Vegas, Nv 89115
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From: RODOLFO VAZ Number: 4341
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/28/93 11:20p
Subj: new cd's Refer: NONE
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Hi Boris,
Please, as soon as you get CDROMs with many OS/2 2.1 programs
and RA 2.00 programs, send me a message, O.K. ?
Soon I'll send you a Crashmail with more CD's requests, O.K. ?(
I'm just waiting for the 5 I requested before.)
OH, I'd like to know : When did you send the CD's ? I'd like to
know how long it's gonna take to arrive here ...
[]s Rodolfo Vaz
... Brazil mail in USA ! From Brasilia, capital of Brazil
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From: TIM GOULD Number: 4342
To: ADIAN SALAS Date: 09/27/93 12:53p
Subj: Catalog Refer: NONE
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Hi! I would appreciate greatly one of those catalogues. Please send to:
Tim Gould
28 Erang St,
Carss Park
NSW, 2221
AUSTRALIA
Cheers,
4-mat.
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From: TIM GOULD Number: 4343
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/27/93 1:03p
Subj: Catalog Refer: NONE
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Neil,
I would appreciate a catalogue, if you could manage one!
Tim Gould
28 Erang St,
Carss Park
NSW 2221
AUSTRALIA
Cheers,
4-mat
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4344
To: CHRIS ZITO Date: 09/30/93 10:25p
Subj: Re: Panasonic 562b + Sb Refer: NONE
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Hi Chris!
On 09-26-93 Chris Zito wrote to Rowan Evans...
CZ> RE> Did you stop and think about how the samples were recorded? Maybe
CZ> RE> the classical music is recorded in stereo at 44.1Khz and the birds
CZ> RE> and bees in mono at 22.05!
CZ>
CZ> The SB 2.0 can play 44.1Khz stereo samples at 44.1Khz mono, I hope you
CZ> know.
Ok, but I think the samples in STW Encyclopaedia under reference are still
only MONO samples (I will take correction on this! <g>)....
CZ> RE> The CD-ROM headphone out is non-amplified.... Your SB 2.0 has (I
CZ> RE> think) 2 watts... my SB 16 ASP has 4 watts of amplification...
CZ> RE> more than enough to upset most of the cheap speakers around!
CZ>
CZ> The SB 2.0 has 4 watts per channel amplification. Speakers sound bad
CZ> because they're cheap, not because of 4 watts of amperage.
Correction noted... I no longer have an SB 2.0 and was relying on an
uncertain memory.... As to speakers, true... I'm still looking for a
decent set!
CZ> Note: I really hate SB 16 ASP users that think they have the best
CZ> sound card, when really they've overspent for an overpriced,
CZ> stone-age FM card with overpriced options (such as the WaveBlaster).
I bought the SB 16 ASP to control the Panasonic CR562B I had bought
earlier... As far as I was concerned, I wanted something similar to
the PAS 16 that controlled a SONY CDU-31A... That ruled out the
cheaper SB Pro 2, and left the 16 & 16 ASP... As the ASP version was
only a few dollars more, I bought it......
The other factor was the number of slots available to me.... I had to
get CD-ROM control and sound in ONE slot... Thus the SB 16 ASP.....
CZ> Just because a card has "16 bit 44.1 Khz stereo sound" written on
CZ> it does not mean the music is any better than FM and besides, how
CZ> many people do you know have a stereo microphone to record with?
But it records *NICELY* off an audio CD.....
CZ> ... Ultrasound, $129, 16 bit 44khz playback, 32 stereo wavetable
CZ> voices
Ah Ha! We now see where you're coming from!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4345
To: MARCUS LEE Date: 09/30/93 10:37p
Subj: 7th Guest 100% Refer: NONE
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Hi Marcus!
On 09-27-93 Marcus Lee wrote to All...
ML> Just for anyone who might be interested to know,
ML>
ML> I got 100% for video under 7th Guest using an ATI Graphics
ML> Ultra Pro 2mb vram EISA version.... about the only card I
ML> know (and own!) which isnt VLB to score 100%...
What version of T7G install? I borrowed an older (1.04) version and
got 86% on the ATI GUPro ISA... Then bought a 1.2 version and only
got 66% for the same card/same machine...
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4346
To: CHRIS ZITO Date: 09/30/93 10:50p
Subj: Re: SB PRO OR SB 16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Again Chris!
On 09-26-93 Chris Zito wrote to Ashwin Bihari...
CZ> Whoa, wait up! Why are you only looking at Creative Labs products?
CZ> The Pro Audio Spectrum 16 is an excellent SCSI card at an excellent
CZ> price. ASP is just Advanced Signal Processing (a data compression
CZ> engine) which has little or no support as of today. What's even
CZ> better is the Gravis Ultrasound.
This is the fourth msg you've posted trashing people who've bought/are
buying SB 16 cards....
Are you a one man crusade against Creative Labs?? <g>
BTW, the PAS 16 only has a polled, 68Kbps SCSI-1 SCSI host adapter...
Adequate for a CD-ROM drive, but hardly what I'd call an "Excellent"
SCSI card....
CZ> The "GUS" has:
CZ>
CZ> 1) 32 digital stereo wavetable voices (the kind the $500 Roland cards
Optional on an SB 16 - get a Wave Blaster....
CZ> 2) 16 bit 44.1 khz stereo playback. 8 bit 44.1 khz stereo record.
SB 16 ASP has 16 bit 44.1 kHz stereo record *AND* playback.....
CZ> 3) SCSI optional add-on card or 16 bit record add-on card
One's never appeared (the SCSI add-on) and the other's already on the SB!
CZ> 4) 3D sound capability
??
CZ> 5) General MIDI compatibility
Same.....
CZ> 6) SB Software support (thru SBOS, a SB emulation program)
Native SB Pro and OPL3 drivers... none of this emulation cr*p....
CZ> 7) Native GUS support
Who wants it??
CZ> 8) $199 list price, $129 street price
Cheap to con suckers like you into buying one.....
Have a nice day!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4347
To: ALAN WHITEMORE Date: 09/30/93 11:20p
Subj: Panasonic 562b + Sb Mono Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Alan!
On 09-26-93 Alan Whitemore wrote to Rowan Evans...
AW> AW>> The classical music I mentioned was one of the selections in the
AW> AW>> STW MPC encyclopedia. I found the distortion quite evident and
AW> AW>> just wondered how much more superior the SB 16 ASP was for MM
AW> AW>> applications.
AW>
AW> RE> Which one? I'll play it and see....
AW>
AW> Under 'SOUND' then 'MUSICAL SELECTIONS', most of pieces show the
AW> distortion I mentioned. "Handel, George Frideric - Water Music,
AW> Hornpipe" is one of the more distorted examples on my setup.
Ok, with trusty Pioneer SE-A4 headphones on head, I played several
of the "Musical Selections" including the Water Music piece.....
Apart from a severe "hissing" in the background (sounds like they
recorded this piece by sticking a microphone in front of a speaker
rather than direct from disc!), using x8 gain and the loudest volume
my ears could stand, the only distortion noted was at the loudest
parts of the various pieces....
So, from that, unless I grab the SB 2.0 again for a "real" test, I'd
have to say the SB 16 ASP was a far superior device for MM.... But then
again, it could've been the way the samples were recorded....
How's the sound on the 1963 Civil Rights March video clip?? (Just a
long one selected at random!).....
Cheers!
o
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From: MATTHEW SALMOND Number: 4348
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 11:13p
Subj: Cd-Rom catalogues Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Could any dealers (Nz and overseas) send me a price list for their shareware
and a/v cd-rom disks please as I'm after a number of them. Being placed on
a mailing list would also be appreciated. If overseas dealer please
give estimation of p & h costs.
Matt Salmond
516 New North Road
Kingsland
Auckland
New Zealand
Thanks
... "Mr. Worf, fire phasers at All" ... Zzzzzap!
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From: RUSSELL HARDIE Number: 4349
To: ALL Date: 09/30/93 10:22p
Subj: DR. CD-ROM Series Refer: NONE
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If you're thinking about buying the Dr. CD-ROM series to use on a BBS, it's
probably better to give these ones a miss.
Dr. Music and Dr. Games contain FILES.BBS which don't have dates or file sizes.
Not much good if the BBS package you use relies on an indicator somewhere in
the file listing to recoginse files.
Dr. Shareware's File listings are all in capitals.
On the Dr. Music CD, all the sound files are compressed and uncompressed, which
is needles duplication. And, again on Dr. Windows all the .WAV files appear
compressed and uncompressed. Dr. Games contains virtually no games, and again
all uncompressed.
NOTE: This is all from the view of a Sysop - for users intending them for home
use only, they may be just what you're after. But, if you're a Sysop, you'd be
well advised to spend your money elsewhere (even Games 1993, Shareware 1993,
etc, series is better, and they *were* the worst I'd seen till now!)
Ciao!
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From: STEVE MANN Number: 4350
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/30/93 9:28p
Subj: Where To Buy Sb16/Mm Upg Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Rowan Evans replied to Tim Wenas:
> On 09-20-93 Tim Wenas wrote to Rowan Evans...
TW>> RE> If all else fails, talk to Creative Pacific
TW>> RE> SB CD16 Discovery Kit $A 799.00
TW>> RE> SB CD16 Performance Kit $A 999.00
TW>> RE> SB CD16 Premium Kit $A1199.00
TW>>
TW>> Umm... in this list I have here, the Discovery kit only
TW>> has a Sound Blaster Pro 2, while the Perfomance and
TW>> Premium have Sound Blaster 16s.
>
> There are Discovery CD8 and Discovery CD16 kits.... CD16
> specifies the SB 16.....
>
TW>> So you mean the Discovery has a Sound Blaster 16? Wow...
TW>> and I was gonna buy a Discovery pack with a SBPro 2!...
Rowan, when I spoke to CP about the range of MM kits they did not mention a
Discovery CD16. They also said they do not sell direct to the public.
As the Discovery kit has 4 CD's compared to the Performance kits 5 it would
seem unlikely that two very similar kits would have a $200 price difference.
They also told me the RRP for the (SBPro 2 based) Discovery kit was $799.
BTW Rowan, thanks again for all your help on choosing my MM kit. I am very
pleased with the SB16 Discovery kit which, for anyone else reading this, can be
found for much less than the RRP mentioned above if one shops around.
Regards, Steve.
(Fidonet 3:711/440 - Internet steve@asstdc.oz.au)
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From: STEVE MANN Number: 4351
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/30/93 9:45p
Subj: Re: Panasonic Cdrom Refer: NONE
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Rowan Evans wrote to Boris Osadciw
>
> Yeah, well don't freak if you read a CR563 manual from
> C/L.... their spex on access times are stuffed up but good!
> They list the double speed access at 450ms and the single
> speed access at 350ms.... Its actually the other way around!
Thats a relief - I hope you're right. Here I was expecting a 320ms drive and
the manual says 350ms and 450ms at double speed. I was horrified.
So is this CR563 really identical to the CR562B which claims to be a 320ms
drive? Is it just inaccurate documentation?
Regards, Steve.
(Fidonet 3:711/440 - Internet steve@asstdc.oz.au)
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From: TARQUINN WATSON Number: 4352
To: DEAN MACKIN Date: 09/30/93 9:13a
Subj: Pioneer 6 pack Refer: NONE
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DM> Great! You have told me just what I wanted to
DM> hear. I guess you are using 604's??? The cost $3500
DM> over here unfortunately *8-( so just one for now.
DM> As for the server, I was going to do that but up
DM> until you confirmed it, it was just an idea. Thanks
DM> very much for your help. What networking software
DM> are you using?
What do you mean over here? I live in Sydney too! :) Yes it makes you
chringe when you see how much the DRM's sell for in the states. When you have
that working, you can them turn your attention towards a
100 disks changer, or purhaps a 240 disks changer! I have details on the NSM
100 cd changer if your interested. I'm using Novell.
Tarquinn Watson
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 4353
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/30/93 2:29p
Subj: Pro Audio Studio 16Xl Refer: NONE
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RE> Well, with the Wave Blaster being a daughter card, I guess that C/L
RE> can come up with "Son of W/B" having onboard RAM?? As I think I said
No I don't beleive that the SB has the ability to address RAM on a
Daughterboard. You'll have to wait for new cards using the new Yamaha
OPL-4 chip. The OPL-4 can access upto 4 megs of ROM plus 8 megs of RAM
for samples.
RE> in earlier msgs, sound is, to me, a secondary consideration at the
RE> moment....
Granted that if you don't use MIDI files or play games, you don't really
need wavetable, though many Windows encyclopaedias use MIDI now for
national anthems etc (a minor consideration admittedly).
RE> 1. SVGA
RE> 2. Network
What on earth are you using a network for? Are you running a BBS?
RE> 3. IDE/FDD card
RE> 4. I/O card
These can be all on one card. Now who's wasting slots ;-)
RE> 5. SB 16 ASP (& CD-ROM!)..
RE> 6. Tape B/u card
RE> 7. modem
Again, could be using a Multi I/O, if it were an external modem.
RE> 8. bus mouse
I saw you mention earlier that you were using an ATI GU Pro VGA card.
This card has a BUS mouse interface. Why can't you plug a bus mouse into
your ATI GU pro?
Or is this just a hypothetical setup?
So you could easily free up 3 slots, with a Multi i/o card, and plugging
your mouse into the ATI.
RE> Max of four.... But if you have a SCSI controller with 2 x HDD and
RE>tape
RE> backup, then you can only install 4 SCSI CD-ROM drives too!
Yeah but you save all those other slots for scanners, HD controllers etc
etc... Again giving a typical system 3 or more slots free.
Cheers
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From: CHANCHAI HOSANGUAN Number: 4354
To: CHRIS SNYDER Date: 09/27/93 2:54a
Subj: Re: CD forsale Refer: NONE
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CS> Includes: TST's World Atlas, US Atlas, Reference Library and the game,
CS> The Secret of Monkey Island.
CS> $15 or make me an offer, will ship USPS 2nd day for $2.
I'll take it at your price. Let me know where to send the check.
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From: JANET GREENLEE Number: 4355
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/28/93 6:14a
Subj: Re: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
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> AS> ***************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION ****************
> AS>
> AS> If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave
> AS> your mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
I would like to receive your catalog
Thanks in advance
Janet Greenlee
p.o. box 484
Rochester Il.
62563
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From: WALTER CHISENSKI Number: 4356
To: NEIL HARFERT Date: 09/30/93 8:38p
Subj: The 7th Guest Refer: NONE
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Well Neil, I just bauaght by system, and it's a 486/25mhz with a single
speed CD-ROM with a access time of 390ms. I have not had ANY problems with my
7th Guest. It does run A LITTLE slow, but that's alright it still looks
great! I don't even think a double spin drive would make that big of a dif.
BECAUSE I only have 512k on my video board. NOW if I had (or you) 1 MEG on the
video board, I think the graphics would be processed much better... Think
about your video board... That might have ALOT to do with how the game
runs...?
Let me know-Walter Chisenski
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From: WALTER CHISENSKI Number: 4357
To: COREY BICCUM Date: 09/30/93 8:45p
Subj: Re: 7th guest? Refer: NONE
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What type of RAM do you have on your system? 2meg, 4meg? The game is
supposed to run with a minimum of 2 MEGS on a 386DX processer! You do have a
16 bit SVGA video card with 512K? Make sure you have at least 10 megs of FREE
space on your hard drive! and MSCDEX 2.2 or higher! Play around with it, I'm
SURE you'll get it going!
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From: WALTER CHISENSKI Number: 4358
To: COREY BICCUM Date: 09/30/93 8:49p
Subj: Re: terminate and cdroms? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Your MSCDEX file should have came with your CD-ROM drive. (I THINK!) That
must be installed with your CD-ROM driver (OR IS PART OF IT!) Are you able to
run other CD-ROM games and stuff? I use Terminate 1.0 and like it alot! I've
switched over from Telix... Let me know what you come up with, if you do get a
MSCDEX make sure it's v2.2 or higher! You need 2.2 (at least) to run some of
the newer stuff (ie: The 7th Guest)
Let me know what happens------- Walter Chisenski -----------------
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4359
To: ALL Date: 10/01/93 2:44a
Subj: CDROM SPECIALS Refer: NONE
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**************** C D - R O M D R I V E P R I C E S ****************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit - $359.00 Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00 - SCSI
NEC 74 280ms Ext Bare - $379.00 NEC 84 280ms Int Bare - $349.00 -SCSI
Panasonic 562 Int Kit - $249.00 Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SCSI
Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $739.00 Pioneer DMR604X Bare - $1169. -SCSI
Texel Int 245ms Bare Dr - $369.00 Texel Ext 245ms Bare - $469.00 -SCSI
Texel Int 3021 Bare Dr - $189.00 Texel Ext Complete Kit- $569.00 -SCSI
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare - $389.00 Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare- $489.00 -SCSI
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit - $195.00 Mitsumi w/Sound Card - $325.00 -PRPR
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. / Windows v1. $50. ALL ChestNuts CD's $12.00ec
ORDER'S ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
... Merry Xmas, Happy Hanukak, Feliz Navidad, etc, etc, etc
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From: TANYA BROCK Number: 4360
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/29/93 8:47p
Subj: Giga Games Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Mike Shannon to Tanya Brock <=-
KP>TB> Has anyone seen a CDROM called GIGA GAMES? I saw it advertised in th
KP>TB> latest issue of PC Magazine. It was in an ad from Walnut Creek so I
KP>TB> would assume that they produced it. Any info would be appreciated and
KP>TB> if anyone was it cheaper than the $39.95 it was advertised for I would
KP>TB> be interested to hear from you.
KP>Yes, Free Spirit Software has it for $ 19.00
MS> And Starvector Software has it for $16.00
well sounds like you win the price war, plus you are just north of me!
But what I really want to know is, is it any good? What exactly is on
it (1993 files or 1983 or somewhere inbetween)? What kind of
duplication of files if any? Most of the game CDs I have seen have
programs that are on the disc 6-7 times with slight variations in name.
Would you possibly have a files list I could FREQ??
Thanks for the reply!
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From: JOHN RACKLEY Number: 4361
To: PETER LASNE Date: 09/29/93 12:08p
Subj: Re: AMIGA CD ROM.. Refer: NONE
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RE: Shared SCSI CD-ROM drives.
You mentioned adding more computers to the SCSI chain to access a single SCSI
CD-ROM drive, the example you gave was a single drive connected simultaneously
to an Amiga and an IBM. Isn't there some issue of bus arbitration that arises
when you do this? Aren't most IBM SCSI-cards incapable of this type of SCSI
networking?
I don't have any experience with SCSI myself, I'm just asking because this is
what I have heard from other people.
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From: LEE NOGA Number: 4362
To: CLARKE ULMER Date: 09/30/93 2:38p
Subj: Re: ACTOR AND ACTRESS CD-ROM! Refer: NONE
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In a message to All <09-28-93 12:40> Clarke Ulmer wrote:
CU>> PREMIERE OF ACTOR AND ACTRESS COLLECTION VOLUME 1, NO. 1
No copyright concerns? We looked into this arena as well, and what we could get
licensed was a 'Skimpy' collection--Congrats on making the idea work, and all
the best in your endeavours ! Its *NEAT !!
-=*>Lee<*=-
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From: CHRIS DONNEGAN Number: 4363
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/30/93 11:30p
Subj: NOT IN WINDOWS Refer: NONE
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RE> CD> I'm lookin' at a stack o' internal drives in a case with SCSI
RE> CD> interface.
RE> CD>
RE> CD> Ideas?
RE>
RE> Well, the most cost effective (ie cheap) double speed SCSI CD-ROMS I'
RE> seen are the NEC CDR-55s... 350ms access, 300Kbps tfr rate.... Caddy
RE> though (bummer....)
I LIKE caddies...<G>
RE>Look around in this echo for ads from some of dealers and see what
RE>deals they offer....
RE>
RE> Brice'll hate me, but I'd recommend an Adaptec to control these sucke
RE> (one note - they have REVERSE parity to anything else....)....
What, the Adaptecs?
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4364
To: DONALD NELSON Date: 09/28/93 11:59a
Subj: HELP!!!! Refer: NONE
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>does anyone know how to connect a mitsumi cd-rom drive model CRMC to a sound
>blaster pro. i need to hook up the cd interface not the audio.
The two interfaces are NOT compatable - you can NOT do this hookup without a
HIGH probability of frying your CD-ROM drive AND your sournd card, and such a
hookup WILL NOT WORK.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4365
To: BARRY SHIPLEY Date: 09/28/93 12:04p
Subj: CD-ROM Refer: NONE
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>1. Is there a quad-speed system coming out in the next few months?
Pioneer 604X has been out for a few months already.
>2. Does the Pioneer 604X plan to upgrade?
The DRM-604X IS an upgrade from the DRM-600A.
>3. Is the Pioneer kodak CD compatible?
Yes, as I recall.
>4. Will the Pioneer work with a PAS-16?
Only if there is an ASPI driver for the PAS-16 - the *&^#*&$^@* Pioneer driver
REQUIRES an ASPI API to work.
>5. Are there any other multi-drive systems on the market?
Yes, but the Pioneer are by FAR the lowest-cost - though the higher-cost ones
tend to hold a LOT more CD-ROMS (50 and up) and some of them have multiple
drives per system.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4366
To: ROBERT POWELL Date: 09/28/93 12:10p
Subj: PANASONIC CR562B Refer: NONE
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>Compare the cost of a NEC double spin drive
>to a 562B and you'll find the Panasonic at half the cost.
Part of that difference IS the SCSI interface on the NEC - though the Panasonic
is also less expensive than the Texel drives as well....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4367
To: ELDON WAKEFIELD Date: 09/29/93 12:01p
Subj: PNX4 Refer: NONE
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>Phoenix 4
>What I need is one with [File Name] [Size] [Date] [Description]
Don't have one (yet), but I can recommend WordStar non-document mode and the
"column" mode for manipulating and adding the info for the TBBS "native" CD-ROM
format....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4368
To: RAY DYER Date: 09/29/93 12:06p
Subj: CD ROM SCRATCHES Refer: NONE
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> Is there a way to repair small tiny scratches on a CD that is caused by
>even a lint-free, soft cloth that was used to remove dust from even before
>first use?
Optical polishing methods work on a CD-ROM.
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 4369
To: JOHN KELLEY Date: 09/30/93 2:14p
Subj: Re: CD'S 4-SALE Refer: NONE
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On 28 Sep 93 21:03:00, I heard John Kelley shout to Kevin Plummer:
> Any Many MANY more Titles...
JK>
JK> How about a price on Night Owls 10?
JK>
How about $ 22.50
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 4370
To: STEWART ROTHMAN Date: 09/30/93 2:15p
Subj: Re: CD TITLES WANTED Refer: NONE
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SR> Thanx for your answer, but I got an answer and ordered them from Boris
SR> for $198.00 and he does take Visa-MC as well. Stu
SR>
Okay, Thats Fine, But They also Take Visa/Mastercharge, Etc.
...|<evin
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 4371
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/30/93 8:07p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM WHOLESALERS AND PU Refer: NONE
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Yup! You told me all I needed to know. Thanks.
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 4372
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/30/93 8:13p
Subj: CD SALES Refer: NONE
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You make some excellent points, Gordon. Even on the GIF CDs there's still
several different "front ends" available, and very few of them with any real
functionality work on more than their "own" CD. Let's hope the industry sees
fit to move towards some sort of interface standard that would let any "front
end" access any CD. For example, *IF* the CD producers would all use a
standard format for the so-called FILES.BBS file, and would put one in each
sud-directory, it wouldn't be too hard for a text-based front-end to access
that CD with some amount of value added. A truly all graphical front end,
universally acceptable to any front end, would be a bit harder I think, but in
principle just as attainable. Let's see what happens!!
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From: COREY BICCUM Number: 4373
To: ALL Date: 09/30/93 4:31p
Subj: day of the Tentacle? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey, I was wondering if anyone has played the cd version of the day of the
tentaclte? Would they recomend purchasing this game? Is it funny? Hard? Some
one fill me in, looking to buy it next week if I hear it's good. What the mail
order price for it right now?
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* Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070)
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From: GORDON LIVINGSTONE Number: 4374
To: COREY BICCUM Date: 10/01/93 5:38p
Subj: 7th guest? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CB> Anyone know any secrets to getting 7th guest to run? I
CB> don't have enough base memory. Do you need dos6 to get
CB> it to run? By the time I load the drivers, I'm down
CB> there in free memory. What gives? Want to get this
CB> game going, It's my first disk I own!
You have to load ALL drivers except QEMM or whatever memory manager you run in
in Upper Memory. No you don't need DOS 6 DOS 5 will do. But you should have
between 2 and 4 meg of RAM preferably 4 meg once everything is High T7G will
have no problem.
Cheers
Gord
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From: FRANK HICINBOTHEM Number: 4375
To: TONY DAVIS Date: 09/30/93 3:33p
Subj: Oklahoma Bbs Bust Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Is talking to Anthony Davis hazardous to your health?
Probably, but I think I'll keep doing it anyway. Pity the Constitution doesn't
apply in Oklahoma.
Has your lawyer set up a legal defense fund? If so, let us know the address;
I'd like to make a contribution.
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* Origin: The RATS Nest, San Diego CA, 619-278-8136 (1:202/501.0)
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From: DAVE WONG Number: 4376
To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Date: 09/30/93 7:29a
Subj: NO#10 $20 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
say ismail, can i pick that up in person if i wanted to, I'm here in seattle.
Do you also have other disk i can purchase. Is it a store?
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From: DAVE WONG Number: 4377
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/30/93 7:36a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM WHOLESALERS AND PU Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
say neil sorry to butt in but what is the name of the cd with dancers? and
price?
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4378
To: TINA ROCK Date: 09/29/93 12:39p
Subj: OS/2 CD-ROM SUPPORT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Beggin your pardon sir, but how can a CD-ROM drive be non-SCSI?
It can have a propriatary interface, like the Sony Bus stuff or the Mitsumi
stuff of the SB Pro/Panasonic interface or the Hitachi bus stuff or ...
As far as I can tell, the MAJORITY of CD-ROM drives in use today are non-
SCSI....
* SLMR 2.1a * I tried to drown my problems, but they are amphibians....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4379
To: TOM GUELKER Date: 09/30/93 11:51a
Subj: NEW CD FORMAT?? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>I've been hearing about a new CD ROM audio format called Mini-Disc or
something
>like that. I realize this is for audio (right now, anyway)
The audio version of this is JUST getting released.
>but what are the advantages of this?
Size. The physical discs are ballpark 3" or so in diameter, and the audio
version uses data compression to achieve it's storage capasity. Sony is working
on a data version, but I don't see it becomming all THAT popular.
>Adapters to play the smaller CD's in our larger readers?
Many current data players (ESPECIALLY the no caddy ones) will handle the
smaller 3 inch or so diameter "standard" CD format already.
* SLMR 2.1a * Screw the Prime Directive - inflict Windows on the Borg!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4380
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 09/30/93 11:54a
Subj: OS/2 CD-ROM SUPPORT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>uses some other standard interface like IDE
I don't know of ANY IDE interface CD-ROM drives - and due to the limitations of
that interface, I'd have to SEE such a drive to believe it exists (unless
Mountain or Micro Solutions comes out with it)....
* SLMR 2.1a * "Not a morning person!" doesn't even BEGIN to cover it!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4381
To: BENNY FOSTER Date: 09/30/93 1:07p
Subj: HELP!!!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>I could be wrong, and a thousand people will tell me if so (grin) but the
>Mitsumi uses a sony interface
NOT!!!!!
The Mitsumi interface is propriatary to Mitsumi, and only the Mitsumi bundled
controllers and the ATI Stereo FX/CD and Aztec Sound Galaxy CD sound cards have
the correct interface to hook up to a Mitsumi drive.
* SLMR 2.1a * Caffine, Chocolate, Pizza, Fritos: THE 4 Food Groups.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4382
To: CHRIS DONNEGAN Date: 09/30/93 1:08p
Subj: PANASONIC CR562B Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>BF>I'm not paying for them at all - look closer, the guy I was replying t
>BF>claiming to pay $7.50 for them (and I think he was Australian, so the
>BF>have been reasonable in HIS area).....
>What's a reasonable price in YOUR area, Brice?
$5 or so, I think - I don't use caddy drives, so I don't pay much attention to
caddy pricing....
* SLMR 2.1a * Every mighty oak was once a nut that stood it's ground...
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4383
To: KURT EASTABROOKS Date: 09/30/93 1:20p
Subj: SOUNDBLASTER CD-ROM DRIVE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Boris, does the panasonic 562b allow multiple drives off of one card?
I'm not Boris, but the docs I've seen indicate up to 4 Panasonics per interface
card.
* SLMR 2.1a * Tribble -> * a bowl of wheat later -> **************
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From: BRUCE WILSON Number: 4384
To: COREY BICCUM Date: 10/01/93 8:47a
Subj: 7th guest? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CB> Anyone know any secrets to getting 7th guest to run? I
CB> don't have enough base memory. Do you need dos6 to get it
I'd highly suggest you make a boot disk and load only the necessary
drivers for mem managment and sound and cdrom. Boot off the disk and
then go to your T7G program.
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* OFFLINE 1.56 * "Selling water by the river, MA 01380-0131"
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From: BRUCE WILSON Number: 4385
To: COREY BICCUM Date: 10/01/93 12:00a
Subj: 7th guest? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-29-93 Corey Biccum wrote to All...
CB> Anyone know any secrets to getting 7th guest to run? I
CB> don't have enough base memory. Do you need dos6 to get it
CB> to run? By the time I load the drivers, I'm down there in
CB> free memory. What gives? Want to get this game going,
CB> It's my first disk I own!
Just to follow up
config.sys:
DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS
DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE 128 M9
DEVICEHIGH=C:\PAS16\MVSOUND.SYS D:3 Q:7
DEVICEHIGH=C:\CDROM\NECCDR.SYS /D:NECCD
DOS=HIGH,UMB
Lastdrive=g
files=20
buffers=20
stacks=0,0
autoexec.bat:
LH C:\CDROM\MSCDEX /D:NECCD /L:G /M:50 /E
LH C:\MOUSE\MOUSE.COM
PROMPT $G$GCDR*$P$G
PATH=C:\;C:\DOS;C:\CDROM;C:\PAS16
mem
This works for me leaves 577k available base memory
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* OFFLINE 1.56 * "Selling water by the river, MA 01380-0131"
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From: GUY OMER Number: 4386
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/29/93 10:08p
Subj: Catalog...please Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
Mike,
Please send catalog to:
Guy Omer
3957 NW 9th CT
Gainesville, Fl 32605-4713
Thanks...guy
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From: GUY OMER Number: 4387
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 09/29/93 10:21p
Subj: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Jim,
Please send catalog to:
Guy Omer
3957 NW 9th CT
Gainesville, Fl 32605-4713
(SF sysop <smile>)...thanks...guy
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From: STEPHEN ZAPPARDO Number: 4388
To: GLENN LOFTUS Date: 09/29/93 10:08a
Subj: Re: new mitsumi 2x speed Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GL> I don't know what the price is to try to buy one separately, but I got
>a new Gateway 2000 system with this CDROM installed this week.
>Gateway 2000 would delete the CDROM from the system for $155.
Glen, thanks for the info and review of your experience with the new
Mitsumi. I will be getting a CDRom by year end and I'm looking into what will
be the most bang for the buck. It seems that a lot of people are generally
happy with it. One criteria I may have though is that it run under OS/2 (which
I believe with the new drivers the Mitsumi does). I'm still looking into
various SCSI units.
TTYL, Stephen
* SLMR 2.1a * Spaghetti code means job security
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 4389
To: CHRIS ZITO Date: 09/30/93 3:55p
Subj: Re: SB PRO OR SB 16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Yeah, that sounds real good, is that what you have, is it compatible to
SoumdBlast, Adlib, and all that stuff and does it have a Cd-ROm
interface built in, I have a Mitsumi, which is not a SCSI CD-ROM, please
tell me about this stuff, thanx and TTYL.
Ashwin
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 4390
To: JULIAN SCHOFFEL Date: 09/30/93 4:02p
Subj: CD Speedway Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Well Julian, all that a cache is good for if a CD-ROM software seeks the
same data over and over again, unlike games, then that data is stored in
memory for the application to access faster, but now tell me what game
do you know that access or seeks the same data over and over and over
again before the cache kicks in, I got PC-KWIK which is supposed to be
the cache out there and it made absolutely no difference on my Mitsumi,
and since your doublespin is already fast why a cache, besides all the
cache will do is just eat memory and sit there and do nothing, well hope
this helps, if you got any questions just write to me, TTYL.
Ashwin
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 4391
To: RUSSELL HARDIE Date: 09/30/93 4:05p
Subj: 7th Guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
You know Russell I have seen a lot of messages about people having a lot
of problems either installing that game or running that game and the
funny thing is that it installed and works fine on my computer, taken my
computer is not as fast or yours, I have a 386dx/40 mhz, with 8 meg ram,
and a Mitsumi 350 ms access and 150 kb/sec transfer and a ordinary SB
2.0 sound card and I get no problems whatsoever, but the only thing I
can suggest is that maybe you are not giving enought buffer memory for
the drive or MSCDEX.EXE or maybe 4 meg ram is not enough for that game,
have you tried to follow the suggestions in the book about this
problem??? TTYL.
Ashwin
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 4392
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/29/93 4:33p
Subj: Sb Pro Or Sb 16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Well Rowan, I do have a Mitsumi and after a lot of thinking and convincing I
decided not to buy a soundcard instead I will be upgrading my computer, I can
buy a SoundCard anytime else, well TTYL.
Ashwin
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 4393
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 09/29/93 4:35p
Subj: CD-ROM GAMES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Well Henry in ways it does help but well I will figure out what dress I need,
no problem with that, but once I enter the timpod, someone told me that the
coordianates are split between some gum wrapper and hint book, both of which I
have, but how in heavnes name do I use it, TTYL.
Ashwin
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From: LAMAR WILKINSON Number: 4394
To: ROSS FOCKE Date: 09/28/93 7:33a
Subj: Re: 7TH GUEST Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Ross Focke to Neil Harfert <=-
RF> Neil,
RF> NO problem man, First question, there are two speeds that you need to
RF> look at, the access time and the transfer time. The access time is
RF> the time that it takes for you system to access the CD. This should be
RF> somewhere inbetween 180 and 140 milisec. Anything higher than 180
RF> will be very noticable. Second is the transfer rate. This is the speed
RF> at which your computer can transfer files or data from the CD to memory
RF> or your harddrive. This speed in a single speed CD should be around
RF> 150kbs and for a two speed around 300kps. The new MPC2 standard that
RF> is coming out is 300 so that is what you should look for. Good luck.
RF>
You should check the size of the buffers if the buffers
are not large enough it does not make any differance what
the transfer rate or speed is if your buffer is not big enough
you need 32k or better
... Drop your carrier ... we have you surrounded!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 4395
To: ALL Date: 09/30/93 11:38p
Subj: Cd's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello All!
Have some new prices on some CD's
2-left Compton's Family Encyclopedia ------ $25
1-left Languages of the World ------- $17 (with book)
1-left Shareware Gold ------ $15
1-left World Atlas --------- $17 (with book) (I got one it is great)
1-left RBBS --------- $14
1-left Shareware Qverload ------ $17
1-left Canadian Shareware ----------$14
1-left Cook Book Heaven --------$14
1-left Reference Library ------$17 (with book) (I got one its great)
1-left Microsoft Bookshelf -------- $17 (with book) ( I got one its great)
1-left Microsoft Small Business ----- $17 (with book) (I got one its great)
One VGA monitor real nice, works great, just upgraded $135.00
(Magnavox)
Talked the owner down on these CD's, but this I think is the best I can do.
Call 512-939-9822 if interrested in anything.
Pat
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From: CARL GRAHAM Number: 4396
To: MICHAEL BROWN Date: 09/30/93 11:20p
Subj: Re: Prophone 7 disc 93 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Michael...I still have the prophone 93 disc....
This is a 7 disc set but I didn't understand the question you had on the
Business Disc....Let me know if I can help. Thanks for the inquiry.
Carl 407-291-4687
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* Origin: Laser Stuff BBS + Killarney, Fl. + (407) 656-5984 (1:363/191)
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From: WAYNE MAJORS Number: 4397
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/30/93 7:05a
Subj: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On Sep 21 00:33, Gordon Peterson of 1:106/167 wrote:
GP> I hope you'll reconsider... you're trying real
GP> hard to kill this conference.
That's grossly unfair! Bob has worked hard for many years to keep this echo
alive and of high quality. His struggle with the x-rated CD issue is an
attempt to keep the echo alive, focused and legal for _all_ its users. Your
failure to understand that doesn't mean that Bob's motives have changed.
We would not have this echo if it were not for Bob!
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 4398
To: TINA ROCK Date: 10/01/93 8:20a
Subj: OS/2 CD-ROM SUPPORT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TR> Tell me more Bob...what kind of CD-ROM drive runs off an IDE?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I read in a recent trade journal that one was being introduced. Don't
recall the manufacturer, but I'm sure the news will be all over the
place soon enough.
TR> Is it as good as a SCSI interface?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Well, everybody has their opinion about this vis-a-vis HDD. I'm not sure
what the pros/cons are w.r.t. CD-ROMs.
TR> What differences are there?
TR> Who is faster and who costs less?
TR> I'm looking for a multi-speed CD-ROM. I don't need multi-session
TR> Can you recommend anything?
TR> Also I want a motorized caddy.
TR> Internal.
TR> I already have a SCSI chip in my Zeos 486dx2-66 computer
TR> (just had to brag for a moment)
TR> If you can recommend something...please give me a clue.
You'd best ask someone like Boris Osadciw who's really "up" on hardware
issues. I'm not.
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 4399
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 10/01/93 9:38a
Subj: Panasonic Cr-523b Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE> Seriously, I see a reference later in the echo to a shareware pr
RE> that runs under Windows and allows you to print CD-ROM jewel cas
RE> inserts... It doesn't seem to have migrated here yet... If you c
RE> find a copy I'd be grateful!....
This is a good program, but not a great program. If you can't find it
elsewhere, drom me your address and I'll send you a floppy with it. BTW:
it requires VBRUN200.DLL - no other version will work.
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 4400
To: DEBBIE MARANTZ Date: 10/01/93 8:25a
Subj: S3 (Slow) Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
If you're happy with your setup, that's great. But it's just that: YOUR
SETUP. What works for you may/may not work equally well for someone
else. With respect to so-called video accelerators, the VLB has FAR more
influence that the video chip/BIOS itself. Again I say, call Steve
Gibson's BBS and look at the benchmark results he posted. My S3 '805 VLB
is at the LOW end of the accelerator market and I don't really think I
could see any MEANINGFUL difference between it and the latest bit
blaster around. Since I paid less than $200 for it, I (in the most "just
trying to help" way) advise folks not to spend $500 for what may turn
out to be nothing more than an ego trip. But, to each his/her own...
<EOT>
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 4401
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 10/01/93 8:44a
Subj: T7g Help Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE> I won't argue, I'll just say that T7G notes that for S3 based ca
RE> it'll only use MCGA mode.... That one note alone made me decide
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I won't argue either. T7G's stance on the issue of S3 boards means,
IMHO, that they won't spend the time to write an efficient driver for it
rather than any lack of functioality the board may have. S3's are very
popular because of their price/performance ratio and that's not likely
to change. Glad you're happy with your setup. Cheers!
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From: KEVIN LO Number: 4402
To: ERIC STAUFER Date: 09/28/93 7:46p
Subj: Gifs Galore Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
ES> Yeah, the only reason why I bought it was because of the $15 for it.
ES>I thought for $15 I couldnt even download 6,000 GIFs on a
ES>14.4 on LD. So, it is pretty neat to have.. The bad part,
ES>no descriptions! <arrghh!!>
$15? Where did you obtain the CD from? Might be interested.....
Cya!
* OLX 2.1 TD * Professional Point System -- 1:374/78.5
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From: MTRAFFIC Number: 4403
To: ALL Date: 10/01/93 2:06a
Subj: Traffic Report! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
*********************************************************************
* Birdsoft Poster Record for Area: CDROM *
* Messages received by Unregistered (1:3600/7) *
* Wed, Sep 1, 1993 - Thu, Sep 30, 1993 *
*********************************************************************
Posts Name Average Size Address
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
153 Rowan Evans 105 3:711/413
81 Boris Osadciw 124 1:157/46
56 Bob Hall 822 1:147/31
46 Brice Fleckenstein 837 1:231/190
42 Gordon Peterson 1318 2:320/203
36 Mike Shannon 900 1:377/33
34 HENRY PAUL 874 1:138/173
33 Bob Jackson 714 1:106/30.0
30 Leslie Rhorer 1880 1:387/800.4
29 Adrian Salas 880 1:202/920.0
24 Pat Rickerson 656 1:160/9
23 Jim Lambert 893 1:18/10
22 Ismail Arslangiray 699 1:138/120
22 Tony Stott 1123 3:714/906
20 Ashwin Bihari 1224 1:324/127
20 Gary Stimpson 2393 1:348/706.2
19 Doug Carpenter 701 1:104/555
19 Laurie Batt 1016 3:640/532
18 Poe Lim 1027 3:623/630
15 Kevin Sullivan 1261 6:730/16.0
15 Ron Findling 1434 1:353/730
14 Andrew See 1051 3:712/218
14 NEIL BERGMAN 1788 1:102/523
13 Ronald Leon 798 1:3603/170.0
13 Dave Reed 887 1:344/79
13 Roberto Reyes 715 4:971/1
12 Michael Mulcahy 1238 1:109/70.986
12 Alan Whitemore 1878 3:54/54
12 Don Bosman 1117 1:159/950
11 Lee Noga 1017 1:3618/23
11 Ed Yee 889 1:134/17
11 Roy Cochrun 1306 1:261/1116
11 Rodolfo Vaz 820 4:806/18
11 Terry Menzies 796 3:640/382
10 Christian Bourguignon 441 1:163/317
10 Tim Wenas 1410 3:635/550
10 Sean Tudor 883 3:711/920.0
10 Rj Kulman 705 1:278/714.0
(truncated for brevity)
Total = 2351 by 672 authors.
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From: STEVE GOYER Number: 4404
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 12:00a
Subj: Oem Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Can someone tell me what OEM is (or stands for)?
___
X SLMR 2.1 X Canadian DOS: "Yer sure, eh?" [y/n]
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From: JIM CUMMINGS Number: 4405
To: JACK MEEHAN Date: 09/30/93 6:49p
Subj: Govt Cd-rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CD-Rom with "U.S. Code, containing the general and permanent laws
of the United States" for # 30.00 from:
Catalog SB-314
U.S. Government Printing Office
Superintendent of Documents
Box 371954
Pittsburgh, PA 15250-7954
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From: ALEJANDRO RODRIGUEZ HEREDERO Number: 4406
To: TIM CANFIELD Date: 09/25/93 2:14p
Subj: Kings Quest 6 & Sierra Phone. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Tim.
>1> Can't pass the boiling water.
You must get the "Iceberg Lettuce" from the "Isle of Wonder" behind the
tomatoes, and drop it in the water. Hurry, or it will melt.
>2> Can't seem to get into the castle... (tried 3 times, restarted 3 that
> is)
You must have the "Hole in the Wall" from the "Isle of Wonder" near the
chair, and something to paint in the castle
wall a door and go in.
If you need some urgent help, you can phone:
209-683-4463 (Sierra On-Line in USA)
It's a free BBS where you can obtain all the hints of Sierra games.
Best regards.
Alex.
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From: JOHN JENKINS Number: 4407
To: DAVID CHANDLER Date: 09/23/93 6:22p
Subj: Cd rom manufacturers Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* In a message originally to All, David Chandler said:
DC >Who manufacturers CD-Roms and how much does the process
DC >cost? I am a
DC >software author and have a program with data enough to fill
DC >a CD. Any
DC >leads?
DC >--David Chandler
DC >--- DB 1.39/004485
DC > * Origin: The Diamond Bar BBS - 909-923-1031 - Ontario, CA
DC >(1:218/101)
DC >24/999 900 252/118
David - the cost isn't high, although you'll usually be contracted for a
minimum volume. About £3,000 to £4,000 mastering costs - £3.15 per CD and 15p
for a sleeve. Artwork is extra! multi-colour artwork is even more extra! In the
UK, Attica Cybernetics in Oxford is one source, EMI might do it soon, but not
yet - minimum volumes likely to be 1000's rather than 50 off.
Regards, John
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From: STEAN SNYMAN Number: 4408
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/18/93 8:29a
Subj: Cd-Roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Neil!
Monday September 13 1993, Ramond De.Vrede writes to Neil Bergman:
RDV> Please Send Me Your CD-ROM catalog...
Here too please :
Stean Snyman
15 Tulip Street
Brackenfell, CT
7560
South Africa
Thanks...
CU
Stean
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From: MIKE BUTSCH Number: 4409
To: ALL Date: 09/26/93 7:08p
Subj: CD-ROM Drives under sFr.500.-- Panasonic and Mitsumi FX 001D Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Butsch Informatik, Oberwilerstrasse 33, 4123 Allschwil, Switzerland
Phone : +41 (0)61/481'04'80 FAX : +41 (0)61/482'22'38
Here are our new Prices for some CD-ROM Drives that are both Doublespin and
Kodak Photo CD Ready.
Panasonic 562B (Interface for Soundblaster PRO/16BIT) sFr.475.--
Mitsumi FX 001D (16BIT Interface Card and Software) sFr.484.--
We have over 140 difrent CD-ROM Titles in stock. We are distributors from
several U.S. Companys. Producers if you search an european distributor here we
are. Send us a dealer demo cd and we will see.
A special hi to all People at : Trade Show (Fay & Cindy & Dave), Walnut Creek
(ALL!), MSD inc. (Roc), CCI (Boris) and all the others
that know us.
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From: STEVE THOMPSON Number: 4410
To: ALL Date: 09/24/93 6:34p
Subj: Which CD-Drive Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for a new cd-drive and I am looking for suggestions.
I have £250 to spend.
I am looking for it to plug into my Sound Blaster Pro, It must be standard (
Whatever that is ), I also need it to play audio sound.
Any help is greatfully recieved.
(-* Gonzo *-)
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From: STEVE THOMPSON Number: 4411
To: ALL Date: 09/24/93 10:22p
Subj: Good CD for a BBS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for peoples reccomendations for a CD disc with a varity of
software on for a BBS. IE a CD like Black Box 5.
Thanks
(-* Gonzo *-)
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From: DYLAN GARTON Number: 4412
To: LES Date: 09/23/93 4:47a
Subj: CD Rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Is all or part of this bulletin board available to buy on CD Rom.
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* Origin: Phantasmagoria BBS, 0933-402224, 24 Hours, 300-16800 (2:440/35)
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From: STEVEN LUNN Number: 4413
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/25/93 1:38a
Subj: Re: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Adrian Salas to All <=-
AS> ***************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION ****************
AS> If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave
AS> your mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
AS> Thank you
AS> Adrian Salas
AS> * QMPro 1.50 00-0000 * ROM CONNECTION CD-SALES 619-479-8688 10am-7pm
AS> PST
AS> -!- WM v3.00/91-0098
AS> ! Origin: Order CD-ROMs On-Line, UNI-ROM BBS 619.279.4774
AS> (1:202/920.0)
I am interested in a FREE catalog.
I am Steve Lunn
12 Clarke Grove
Pinders Heath
Wakefield
West Yorkshire
WF1 4TH
England
I Will expect to hear from you...
... When I grow up I want to be an Amstrad ...
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From: STEVEN LUNN Number: 4414
To: ALL Date: 09/25/93 1:50a
Subj: Syndicate Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Since it has been decided by the powers that be that a version of the ACE
game SYNDICATE will be released on the Amiga CD32 machine, does anybody know
if there are any planns for a PC CD-ROM version with the same extra add-ons?
If any-one out there has any information, I would be grateful.
T.T.F.N
Lone Wolf
... SENILE.COM found . . . Out Of Memory . . .
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From: STEWART ROTHMAN Number: 4415
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 09/29/93 12:00a
Subj: Giga Games Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>TB>Has anyone seen a CDROM called GIGA GAMES?
>JL>Hi Tanya. How does $18 grab you? <G>
>JL>If you would like a copy of our latest catalog,
>JL>send me your address or give us a call.
>JL> Jim...
>JL>CD-Rom Sales! (205) 793-4481 Voice (205) 671-0092 BBS
Thanx for your call yesterday, I'm looking forward to your catalog.
On the above disc, GIGA GAMES, is it commercial or shareware??
And do you take Visa-MC???
Stu
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From: GREG MCCONNELL Number: 4416
To: ALL Date: 09/27/93 11:47p
Subj: Should it stop spinning? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I just purchased a cheap external CD-ROM drive with the brand name The
"Cube". I have never had a CD player before, audio or computer.
After fooling with IRQ's and jumpers, I got it working with my computer
such that I could do a "dir H:" and get its directory, and run the game
on the one CD disk I purchased with it, and basically use it as another
drive. BUT I am wondering WHY IT WON'T STOP SPINNING after I once
access it with the computer. E.G. I just do a "dir" and leave it alone,
but the CD keeps spinning until the next time I turn the power off on
the drive. Is this normal behaviour for the CD?? I ask, because in one
circumstance only, it does indeed stop spinning, which is after I just
turn on the computer's power, and the CD drive spins the disk to get
established on the track 25 (presumably like any floppy drive reading
the FAT track). Anyway, I worry I am going to wear out the motor!
Any advice from you obviously experienced CDers would be appreciated.
Regards, Greg
***********************************************
*** INTERNET: greg.mcconnell@canrem.com ***
*** home:(416)265-8771 work:(416)282-5754 ***
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4417
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/30/93 4:30p
Subj: COVER CD 'PC MAG' Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Actually, I'll grant that caddies MIGHT be interesting for two or maybe three
>types of utilization.
>ONE: People who plan to let their preschool kids shove caddies in and out.
That's one of the few cases where I can see caddies as being usefull.
>TWO: Use in a car, where you shouldn't take your eyes off the road.
My car CD player has a "lip" around the whole slot - I can insert a disc by
feel with NO problems at all - in fact, it's easier than trying to insert a
disc into a caddy.
>THREE: In a CD-ROM changer, where you MIGHT want to be able to load a
>cartridge containing several discs as a set (as the Pioneer does), or even a
>large set of 50 or more discs (like that German changer does).
I prefer the method Nakamichi came up with - an internal 100 disc magazine,
that you load one-at-a-time via a front panel slot, and random access to all of
the discs. They also set it up so that you can load/unload discs while a disc
is playing....
* SLMR 2.1a * A brute kills for pleasure. A fool kills from hate.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4418
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/30/93 5:06p
Subj: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>2) Removal of CD-ROM ads (and the discussion about them) will result in
> this echo being just about useless to those of us here in Europe.
> If that double-whammy is done, I'll ask the sysops over here to drop
> this echo and carry the adult and CD-ROM for sale echos instead.
Why not carry CDROM AND CDROM_SALE?
* SLMR 2.1a * Cthulhu Calls -- using MCI
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4419
To: TONY STOTT Date: 09/30/93 5:15p
Subj: XXX CD'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>BF> Also, the picture quality is often directly comparable to magazine
>BF>pictures....
>Of course, that's where most of them come from...
Used to be the case, but growing less so....
* SLMR 2.1a * It's 11:00...do you know what your cats are shredding?
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4420
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/30/93 5:16p
Subj: SONY 535 SPEEDUP Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> BF> > "What did Adaptec think of the DB-25 connector
> BF>
> BF> It's all the fault of the Macintosh anyway - too bad more folks don't
> BF> use THAT defacto standard instead of inventing their own pinouts....
> Well, Adaptec was sticking with the 50 pin connection via centronics
> type plug
Which is the only "real" standard, but is a bit impractical to fit into some
places....
* SLMR 2.1a * Feces Occurs!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4421
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/30/93 5:19p
Subj: PANASONIC 562B + SB MONO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> BF> > I think its more the speakers than the sound card, as I like to hear
> BF> > my Audio CDs fairly *LOUD* and have had a lot of trouble finding a
> BF> > set of speakers that will cope!
> BF>
> BF> I've seen a couple of bands that used a pair of bridged Crown M600 (2
> BF> KILOwatts) amps feeding a pair of Infinity QLS for their STAGE
> BF> amp/speaker system....
> This sounds good.... Pity that it costs the GNP of a small country to
> buy this type of gear....
Nope - only a "few" thousand $....
8-)
> The thing is that most small speaker systems that say they'll handle the
> 4 watts or so out of an SB or PAS really won't
Try a set of Realistic Minimus-7 speakers sometime - or any of the better
"clones" of that speaker (like the Braun or ADS).
The self-amplified Minimus speakers are fairly decent, too - I used to use a
set of the 4" ones at Computer swapmeets....
* SLMR 2.1a * Cats have fur coats because they look sillly in raincoats
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4422
To: HAROLD BINGHAM Date: 09/30/93 5:21p
Subj: MITSUMI # CRMC Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>With the Mitsumi CD-ROM model:crmc I have an 8 bit card and get bad
performance
>with it . Can I use it on the SB16?
No. Also, the model number is the "LU002" or such - I have no idea what that
"crmc" is for, but ALL Mitsumi drives boxes I have seen have that on them....
* SLMR 2.1a * Rear Admiral (n): Navy Proctologist.
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 4423
To: JURRIE HOBERS Date: 10/02/93 4:15p
Subj: Re: Dealers Wanted! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JH> I am interested!
JH>
JH> Do you have a fax numer for me?
JH>
JH> Jurrie Hobers
(317) 878-5982
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From: BILL WOLFF Number: 4424
To: CHRIS ZITO Date: 09/30/93 9:52p
Subj: MULTIMEDIA PRO-16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Quoting: Chris Zito (09-26-93 17:03)
To: Rowan Evans
Subj: RE: PANASONIC 562B + SB
CZ> Note: I really hate SB 16 ASP users that think they have the best
CZ> sound card, when really they've overspent for an overpriced, stone-age
CZ> FM card with overpriced options (such as the WaveBlaster). Just because
CZ> a card has "16 bit 44.1 Khz stereo sound" written on it does not mean
CZ> the music is any better than FM and besides, how many people do you
CZ> know have a stereo microphone to record with?
Oh I don't know? I have a Multimedia Pro 16 sound card and SB 16 ASP
sounds a bit tame if you ask me.
BTW, you know anything about Panasonic 563 CD-ROM drives? What makes
them different than the 562 series?
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* Origin: A Professional (Windy City) Point System (1:115/769.2)
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From: BILL WOLFF Number: 4425
To: SCOTT DAVIS Date: 10/01/93 11:19a
Subj: CD CARE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Quoting: Scott Davis (09-29-93 16:47)
To: Brice Fleckenstein
Subj: CADDY-O-RAMA
SD> Apparently you two haven't noticed that CD's (And thus CD-Rom's) have
SD> a layer plastic about 1/4 millimeter thick designed specifically to
SD> resist scratching and stuff.. if you take descent care of the disc, the
SD> little nicks and scratch normally won't affect it..
SD> (If you don't take care of it, the BIG scratches ruin it..)
Well maybe I am all wet, but I thought the whole idea of the CD was
that as long as laser light could bounce through the plastic, it
will read correctly. Light still gets through scratches and even big
scratches.
There was fear at one time that oxidation would erode the metal
coating. Although I never heard of this being a problem. Maybe if
you bury it for awhile, it might happen. Who knows.
BTW, I use to work for Philips for 8 years and spent a good amount
of time in Holland. Although nothing to do with the CD-ROM
technology except we used them on our computers.
--- PPoint 1.65
* Origin: A Professional (Windy City) Point System (1:115/769.2)
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From: BRIAN RYCHLICKI Number: 4426
To: ARNIE BERGER Date: 10/01/93 5:43p
Subj: Panasonic cd562-b / sbpr Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AB>BR>I just spent about three hours with a dealer trying to install a
AB>R>with no troubleshooting hints. It does mention that a 521c drive can
AB>BR>be installed. The dealer said it could be my motherboard, which I
AB>BR>doubt.
AB>BR>Please help by providing some ideas or solutions. Thanks in Advance.
AB>Brian, I just installed the Creative labs version of this drive
AB>and my dealer had to replace the motherboard, inorder to get the drive
AB>to work. Fortunately my system wa under warranty so it free. The
AB>technician told me with my old motherboard the drive locked up and would
AB>not work. I don't know it this will help you in your situation.
AB>Arnie
Thanks for your input Arnie. I did manage to get it up and running on my
system with no motherboard changes. The problems were two things: 1) The
software I received with my SBPRO ver 2 which was bought in November 1992 was
not compatable. That is, a dealer gave me the newer release and after
installing it, It resolved the problem. I then encountered another problem -
my old mouse and mouse driver. I used a Genius GM-5 serial mouse which is an
"el cheapo" bought with my system about 4 years ago. Whenever the autoexec.bat
read the c:\gmouse.com command, the driver for the Panasonic CDR562B would not
install. I changed the mouse driver (bought another mouse) and everything works
great now.
A word of wisdom for you all who are thinking of buying this drive and have a
SBPro v 2, try to get up to date software/drivers for the SB and Mouse you are
using first. Good Luck.
===
* SLMR 2.1a * --T-A+G-L-I+N-E--+M-E-A+S-U-R+I-N-G+--G-A+U-G-E--
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From: DEBBIE MARANTZ Number: 4427
To: COREY BICCUM Date: 10/02/93 1:42a
Subj: Memory Woes Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Here a couple of suggestions;
Switch to a third party memory manager, such as QEMM 386, as MSDOS
6's HIMEM and EMM386 will locate the start address for the UMBs 4K
above the actual address. Switch to Microsoft's 8.10 mouse driver,
and use the /U switch to load about 3.8K in the UMB, relocating the
rest to the HMA. Run MSCDEX using the /E switch, which will load to
15K to the UMB and relocate the rest to EMS. If your CD Rom driver
allows, make the LASTDRIVE statement in the config.sys the CD Rom
Drive, if that is your last device, LASTDRIVE E rather than
LASTDRIVE Z. Switch off any cache scheme that the CD Rom .SYS driver
allows. Typical savings on my system were... 16K-MS Mouse 8.20 to
3.8K MS Mouse 8.10, MSCDEX 47K to 35K not using the /E switch to 15K
using the /E switch and SONY SLCD.SYS 37K cache scheme on to 23K
cache scheme off, which allowed all other drivers and TSRs to load
high with 615K (630K) of conventional memory free and 26K free in
the UMB area. Try the update on VIRGIN's BBS called T7G_130 which
requires about 480K conventional memory and uses XMS rather than EMS
and fixes a miriad of sound related problems. Also, you could setup
a multi-configuration in MSDOS 6, where you would select a
configuration that would allow you to only load the drivers and
utilities that the CD Rom requires or switch off the EMS page frame,
thus freeing an additional 64K of UMBs allowing you to load more
from conventional memory into the UMBs. Hope some of this helps.
Happy CD'ing.
--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
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From: PAUL NALEY Number: 4428
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/30/93 5:10p
Subj: CD-ROM PREORDERS Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
MS> | Starvector Sales Bulletin #3: CD-ROM PRE-ORDERS |
MS> We are now taking pre-orders on the following titles
MS> - Cards are not processed until date of shipment -
MS> NIGHT OWL 10 * What more can be said? Always the top-rated s/w CD......$35
MS> CD OS/2BOX * The newest from Damar. 300+mb of EXCLUSIVELY OS2 2.x s/w!.$29
MS> PIER 3 * 650+mb of all new material w/ no dupes to Pier 1 or 2.........$39
Mike you already have my Pre-Order on file for Night Owl 10, but I just
noticed that another dealer (Groupware) is offering their pre-order
price of $20. Will you match it?
* OLX 2.2 * A fool and his money are my best friends!
--- WM v3.01/91-0058
* Origin: Little Rascals BBS - Pr. Frederick, Md. 301-855-9420 (1:109/538.0)
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 4429
To: JOHN ENGLAND Date: 10/01/93 10:28p
Subj: Mitsumi 300ms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello John!
PR> 25 Sep 93, John England writes to Pat Rickerson:
JE>> Hi, Pat ! I left you a message yesterday about the CD-ROM drive. I did
JE>> yaWreceive the check and I sent the CD-ROM drive via UPS on Friday.
JE>> You should get it sometime next week. Please let me know if you don't
JE>> ^nget it
It has been a week and still no drive. Whats up, did it get returned to you?
My address is
411 Ninth St. Nas
Corpus Christi, Tx 78418 is this how you sent it as the Ninth should be
spelled out, sure hope I get it soon but can't understand that it has taken
over a week by UPS please check into this as it was a birthday gift for my
12year old! (he checks every day when he comes home from school to see if it is
in, driving me crazy!) 512-939-9822
Pat
--- GoldED 2.40
* Origin: Thin Ice BBS * Corpus Christi, Texas (1:160/9)
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From: LEE BAILEY Number: 4430
To: TIM WENAS Date: 09/29/93 11:17p
Subj: Cd Kits Prices <Aust> Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TW> **-Fusion CD 16 multimedia kit + 6 CDs: $720 (however, I don't
TW> know the
TW> specs on the drive except that it's photo-CD ready.)
TW> -Fusion CD 16 multimedia kit + 5 CDs: $790 <?> -Different
TW> store.
TW> -Soundblaster Performance <SB16> + 5 CDs: $899
TW> -Multispin Stereo Pack: Panasonic multispin, Laserwave 16 +So
TW> Much
TW> Shareware: $750
TW> -Multi-spin pack: Lasermate multi-spin/session, Laserwave Supra
TW> 16, 5
TW> CDs: $799
TW> ** -Soundblaster 16+doublespeed CD-ROM+5 CDs : $845 (I think
TW> it's the
TW> performance pack, if so it's a good price, retails normally
TW> about $999)
TW> -Panasonic multi-spin/session, 16bit sound card (but which
TW> one), 15<!>
Are those prices US? I can do ALOT better than that if you're interested.
--- GEcho 1.00
* Origin: The GentleGiant BBS VA (804)875-0474 (1:271/215)
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From: MARK WALKER Number: 4431
To: TONY DAVIS Date: 10/02/93 5:54p
Subj: Defense fund Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I saw a message from another guy asking about this and I had wondered it
myself, do you have one set up?? I would like to contribute myself, I don't
like it when someones rights get trampled on.
--- msged 1.99L MSC
* Origin: The Zoo BBS (1:108/50)
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From: ERIC STAUFER Number: 4432
To: KEVIN LO Date: 09/29/93 6:48p
Subj: Gifs Galore Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Kevin,
Got it from Free Spirit Software in California...
Phone Number : 1-800-638-5757 (orders only)
1-317-878-5342
1-317-878-4751 (Fax)
$15.00 from the October Issue of Computer Shopper
..Eric Staufer..
..1:374/6568..
ps.. there are no descriptions.
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From: STEVEN BALDASSARRA Number: 4433
To: ALEX MOTTRAM Date: 09/30/93 9:50p
Subj: Sony CDU-31a Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AM>Does anyone have the _REAL_ specs on this drive? One day I got a wild hair
AM>up my butt to buy another CDrom drive for my BBS (already have a mitsumi on
AM>another machine) and bought the Fusion CD-16 system at Wal-Mart (wanted a
AM>16bit soundcard also, so it was sort of a deal).. The manuals, of course,
AM>tell you nothing, and CD-Speed software tends to give varying results. I've
AM>seen 130kb/s to 164kb/s using MPCWizard and the speed test on MegaDemo CD.
AM>What I'm really interested in is the access time in ms.
According to the spec.:
Data Transfer Rate
Sustained Rate 150Kbytes/sec
Burst Rate 2.1Mbytes/sec
Access Time
Full Stroke 950ms (Typical)
Average (Random) 490ms (Typical)
Acceptable Discs:
CD-ROM Mode-1 Data Discs
CD-ROM Mode-2 Data Discs
CD-Audio Discs
Audio-Combined CD-ROM Discs
CD-ROM XA Discs
CD-I Discs
Steven
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 4434
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 10/02/93 7:12a
Subj: OS/2 CD-ROM SUPPORT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Yup! Just saw it in one of the trade rags - Infoworld, I think. It's either
shipping now or will be by the end of the year. Forget who the manufacturer
is.
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: CHRIS SNYDER Number: 4435
To: CHANCHAI HOSANGUAN Date: 09/28/93 12:33a
Subj: Re: Cd for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CS> Includes: TST's World Atlas, US Atlas, Reference Library and the gam
CH> I'll take it at your price. Let me know where to send the check.
Already sold. Thanks anyway.
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From: CHRIS SNYDER Number: 4436
To: CHANCHAI HOSANGUAN Date: 09/28/93 4:24p
Subj: Re: Cd for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CS> Includes: TST's World Atlas, US Atlas, Reference Library and the gam
CH> I'll take it at your price. Let me know where to send the check.
Already sold. Thanks anyway.
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From: CHRIS SNYDER Number: 4437
To: JOHN DAGES Date: 09/30/93 2:49p
Subj: DAY OF THE TENTACLE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JD> HELLO! I bought an excellent CD game called the Day Of The
JD> Tentacle, it's an incredible game but rather short. Over 100,000
JD> thousand pages of digitized speech. Give me a call, (419) 991-2761
JD> thanks!
Does this mean you're selling it or what? If you're selling it I'm
interested.
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From: CHRIS SNYDER Number: 4438
To: ALL Date: 09/30/93 3:57p
Subj: Return to Zork Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone know if Return to Zork will be coming out on cd-rom?
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From: JESSE SCHMELZER Number: 4439
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/29/93 12:09a
Subj: Re: HOT NEW PRICES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message on <24-Sep-93 13:06:00> Boris Osadciw (1:157/46) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> H O T N E W P R I C E 'S <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
BO> From Consumer's Club International On this date
BO> 09-24-1993, Pioneer Electronics has just lowered their price's to us
BO> on the following Six Disk Changers. Here is your opportunity to
BO> purchase one of the finest cdrom changers on the market.
BO> Pioneer DMR 604X -350ms / 600kps - bare drive - PRICE $1169.00
Do i get a refund for the differnt's hehehehe??? Might be ordering another 604X
here shortly or should i wait till the 18 Disk one??
Jesse
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From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 4440
To: PAM NOVAK Date: 09/28/93 8:01p
Subj: Re: Neurological disorders Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
To: Pam
By: Giuliano Maciocci Jr. (maciocci2@mango.apc.org)
On: Tuesday September 28 1993 at 20:01
Hi Pam!
Tuesday August 31 1993, Pam Novak told Gail Hitson:
PN> heartline;1-800-345-hart;11:00a.m.to 8p.m.weekdays except
PN> hollidays Cardiovascular nurse specialists answer questions and send
PN> you imformation about heart diseas and related conditions. As lymes
PN> can effect your heart. American Heart association 1-800-AHA-USA-1 9a.m
PN> to 5p.m. all time Zones. For answers to heart disease questions.and
PN> acess to your local heart chapters. Hope this helps Pam * SPITFIRE
PN> v3.3 --- FreeMail 1.08b
Major Mixup here!! I got 4 messages from this health thing already! Crossed
lines on the net?? (grin)
Cheers!
╔═══╦╗╔╦══╦═╛
╚══╣╩ ╩╚═╝
╚╝ Raver
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From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 4441
To: ALL Date: 09/28/93 9:03p
Subj: Panasonic CR562b Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
To: All
By: Giuliano Maciocci Jr. (maciocci2@mango.apc.org)
On: Tuesday September 28 1993 at 21:00
Hi All!
OK, I tried, got no reply, I'll try again: Are there any dealers out there who
can ship a <subj> to Zimbabwe, what are their FAX NUMBERS and do they offer any
deals? I HAVE to buy soon, FROM THE USA if possible (not availiable here) and
NOW!!!!! Please someone help, I NEED THOSE FAX NUMBERS!!!!!!!
Thanks to anyone kind enough to help.
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 4442
To: DAVE WONG Date: 10/02/93 1:51a
Subj: Re: NO#10 $20 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> say ismail, can i pick that up in person if i wanted to, I'm here in
> seattle.
> Do you also have other disk i can purchase. Is it a store?
After it's release, please stop by and pick up your copy. We are @ Exit 130 I-5
and cross the street from El Torito Resturant. TTYL
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From: JOHN KELLEY Number: 4443
To: KEVIN PLUMMER Date: 10/01/93 4:19p
Subj: RE: CD'S 4-SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Sounds good to me .... you got a phone number and ordering information?
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From: ERIC RICHARD Number: 4444
To: ALL Date: 10/02/93 10:15a
Subj: CD_ROM's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi! I'm looking for good CD_ROM disks to run for my BBS, please leave me all
the info I need to purchase some cd's, thanks.
Eric Richard
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From: BUTCH SANDERSON Number: 4445
To: BRUCE WILSON Date: 10/02/93 2:55p
Subj: 7th guest? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BW> On 09-29-93 Corey Biccum wrote to All...
BW> CB> Anyone know any secrets to getting 7th guest to run? I
BW> CB> don't have enough base memory. Do you need dos6 to get it
BW> CB> to run? By the time I load the drivers, I'm down there in
BW> CB> free memory. What gives? Want to get this game going,
BW> CB> It's my first disk I own!
BW>Just to follow up
BW>config.sys:
BW>DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS
BW>DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE 128 M9
BW>DEVICEHIGH=C:\PAS16\MVSOUND.SYS D:3 Q:7
BW>DEVICEHIGH=C:\CDROM\NECCDR.SYS /D:NECCD
BW>DOS=HIGH,UMB
BW>Lastdrive=g
BW>files=20
BW>buffers=20
BW>stacks=0,0
BW>autoexec.bat:
BW>LH C:\CDROM\MSCDEX /D:NECCD /L:G /M:50 /E
BW>LH C:\MOUSE\MOUSE.COM
BW>PROMPT $G$GCDR*$P$G
BW>PATH=C:\;C:\DOS;C:\CDROM;C:\PAS16
BW>mem
BW>This works for me leaves 577k available base memory
BW>___
BW> * OFFLINE 1.56 * "Selling water by the river, MA 01380-0131"
BW>--- Maximus 2.01wb
BW> * Origin: SpaceMet-North Greenfield, MA (1:321/152)
Here's a autoexec and Config that gives me 622k for DOS/Windows
applications. Its a combination of DOS 6.0 and QEMM 7.1 ....its well
worth the added cost.
C:\STACKER\CHECK /WP
@ECHO OFF
VERIFY=ON
PATH C:\QEMM;C:\DOS;C:\MOUSE;C:\CDROM;C:\UTILITY;C:\PCKWIK;C:\WINDOWS;C:\STACKE
PROMPT $E[1;37;40m$P$E[1;31;40m$G$E[0;0;40m
SET BLASTER=A220 D1 I5 T3
SET MOUSE=C:\MOUSE
C:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:1 /LO C:\MOUSE\MOUSE.EXE
GOTO %CONFIG%
:NORMAL
C:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:2 C:\DOS\MSCDEX.EXE /D:MSCD001 /E /M:30 /L:G
C:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:2 C:\DOS\APPEND /E
C:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:2 /LO C:\PCKWIK\PCKSCRN
C:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:2 /LO C:\PCKWIK\SUPER
WIN
GOTO END
:ONE
C:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:2 C:\DOS\APPEND /E
C:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:2 /LO C:\PCKWIK\PCKSCRN
C:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:2 /LO C:\PCKWIK\SUPER
GOTO END
:END
[menu]
menucolor=7,0
menuitem=normal, Windows
menuitem=one, Games from DOS
menudefault=normal,3
[normal]
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\DOSDATA.SYS
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\QEMM386.SYS RAM ST:M R:2
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\DOS-UP.SYS @C:\QEMM\DOS-UP.DAT
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:1 C:\QEMM\QDPMI.SYS SWAPFILE=DPMI.SWP SWAPSIZE=102
BUFFERS=30,0
FILES=30
DOS=UMB
LASTDRIVE=H
FCBS=4,0
STACKS=9,256
DOS=HIGH
BREAK=ON
SHELL=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.COM /R:2 C:\DOS\COMMAND.COM C:\DOS\ /E:256 /p
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\DOS\ANSI.SYS
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\CDROM\MTMCDE.SYS /D:MSCD001 /M:30 /I:10 /P:30
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\STACKER\STACHIGH.SYS
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\PROAUDIO\MVSOUND.SYS D:0 Q:7 S:1,220,1,5 M:0
[one]
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\DOSDATA.SYS
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\QEMM386.SYS RAM ST:M R:2
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\DOS-UP.SYS @C:\QEMM\DOS-UP.DAT
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:1 C:\QEMM\QDPMI.SYS SWAPFILE=DPMI.SWP SWAPSIZE=102
BUFFERS=30,0
FILES=30
DOS=UMB
LASTDRIVE=H
FCBS=4,0
STACKS=9,256
DOS=HIGH
BREAK=ON
SHELL=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.COM /R:2 C:\DOS\COMMAND.COM C:\DOS\ /E:256 /p
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\DOS\ANSI.SYS
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\STACKER\STACHIGH.SYS
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\PROAUDIO\MVSOUND.SYS D:0 Q:7 S:1,220,1,5 M:0
[common]
Hope this helps you make a decision.
* SLMR 2.1 * You CD-ROM ?.....Nope, but I CD monitor!....(New Orleans)
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From: TONY STOTT Number: 4446
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 10/01/93 8:12a
Subj: This Echo Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-21-93, Gordon Peterson elucidated to Bob Hall:
GP>Regarding your proposed changes to this echo:
GP>I hope you'll reconsider... you're trying real hard to kill this
GP>conference.
Do you think your constant carping and criticism of anyone who doesn't
share your views is HELPING this conference? I suggest you stop
criticising the moderator (and everyone else), and talk a walk in the sun.
maybe you'll recapture some perspective on what is really important in
life.
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From: TARQUINN WATSON Number: 4447
To: LANGSTON GOLDFINCH Date: 09/30/93 9:42a
Subj: Pioneer 6 pack Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LG>How did you set up a staging directory? I have a 6pack and four nodes
LG>and nothing I have tried works too well (large buffers, doors)
Hello, Langston.
The software I use will copy the file across the LAN to a staging directory on
a hard drive. All i have to do is tell it a path. I'm not sure what software
is avaiable for your BBS s/w. MFM/MFMLAN and FILEMAN/COPYIT work well is a
TBBS environment.
Regards
Tarquinn Watson
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From: PETER BOSKOS Number: 4448
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/30/93 8:12p
Subj: FIREARMS REFERENCE Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
> Peter,
> Two of the Firearm's Reference would be $60 + s/h.
> Please add $13 for
> insured Airmail shipping, or $7.50 for non-insured
Mike.....thanks for response. Will fax you the details.
Cheers Peter
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4449
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 10/01/93 7:35p
Subj: Sb With Nec Double Spin Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Brice!
On 09-28-93 Brice Fleckenstein wrote to Rowan Evans...
BF> > BF> The ONLY drive that SBPro interface will handle is a
BF> > BF> Panasonic/Matsushita unit designed specifically for that
BF> > BF> interface....
BF>
BF> > I beg to differ... I have seen SB Pro used with a SONY CDU-31A
BF> > CD-ROM.
BF>
BF> Are you CERTAIN that the Sony was being run by the SB, as opposed to
BF> having just the AUDIO connected to the SB Pro?
I never actuall got to see inside the machine, so it could be that there
was a separate SONY i/f in there.... But it seems to me to be remarkably
*STUPID* to do an MM kit using a more expensive drive that will also
require a paddle card than using the Panasonic Cr52x series drive....
BF> > Also there is a later Panasonic CR563 CD-ROM drive
BF>
BF> Precisely - a PANASONIC!
You've clipped to get a mis-quote here Brice... From memory I think the
statement went CR52x, etc, etc then the statement about the CR562B, mainly
for the speed statements following...
BF> > was faster than an NEC CDU-55 and an NEC 74-1! (Both SCSI
BF> > devices)....
BF>
BF> Likely a limitation of the test program used, in combination with a
BF> somewhat larger buffer on the drive - SAME sort of results that
BF> CoreTest will give on a drive or controller with a large buffer.
BF> The 563 appears to be a nice drive, but the SUSTAINED DTR is the
BF> same as the NEC 74 - if you transfer SMALL chunks
BF> of data many times (256K or less) the Panasonic will APPEAR
BF> to be a lot faster, as you're actually reading the BUFFER rather
BF> than the data on disc after the first read....
The CR562B/CR563 have 64Kb cache.... I believe the NEC has 256Kb....
The data test was done using a large stream of non-repetitive data
(\SOUNDS directory on Creative Sounds) to avoid the situation that
you specified here....
I'm waiting on another CD transfer rate test program and I'll post the
results when obtained!
Cheers!
o
/U\
... OFFLINE 1.52
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4450
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 10/01/93 7:36p
Subj: Desqview Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Again Brice!
On 09-28-93 Brice Fleckenstein wrote to Rowan Evans...
BF> > BF> * SLMR 2.1a * Australia: where men are men and sheep are
BF> > BF> nervous....
BF>
BF> > Sorry dude, you're thinking of New Zealand!
BF>
BF> Not according to the original I was quoting....though BOTH countries
BF> might be equally applicable to that quote?
Nope, they have something like 2 or 3 sheep per person there..... <g>
o
/U\
... OFFLINE 1.52
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4451
To: POE LIM Date: 10/01/93 8:02p
Subj: Transfer rates (Panasoni Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Poe!
On 09-30-93 Poe Lim wrote to All...
PL> There has been some talk of the AT bus interface CD-ROM
PL> drives having faster transfer rates than the SCSI bus
PL> drives, whereas I believe that to not be tha case. This
PL> comparison was done to test my hypothesis.
PL>
PL> Constants:
PL> Tested on an i486DX2-66, running a Seagate ST11200 Fast SCSI-2 HD in
PL> synchronour mode, 700Mb partition formatted HPFS running
PL> under OS/2 2.1, CMD.EXE boot (no WPS). Drivers used were
PL> the drivers as shipped with OS/2 2.1 for the SCSI unit, and
PL> the SoundBlaster drivers (SBCD2.ADD date 8 May 1993).
OK, severely different setup to the DOS/Windows setup I used...
HPFS also gives you the advantage over the FAT file system on the
DOS setup....
What does PC Labs Bench 7.0 say about the Disk Harmonic of the Seagate
SCSI drive??
Did you try a DOS transfer rate test (booting off a floppy) or don't you
have a FAT partition??
What SCSI controller?? What bus??
PL> Files seleted were from the 001A directory of the Night Owl 9 CD ROM,
PL> totalling 35,048Kb, to keep the area of file on the CD-ROM
PL> constant. Transfer was manually timed, and copy was done
PL> with a batch file, 2 test passes on each drive, alternating
PL> the drives, and an initial run carried out to fill any
PL> cache that may exist as well as to give an idea of time
PL> taken. The files were deleted from the HD after each
PL> transfer. The above was done to keep conditions as constant
PL> as possible (and OS/2 was not in multi-tasking mode).
Fair enough... Similar to the test procedure I used...
PL>
PL> Panasonic CR-562B Toshiba 3401
PL> Pass 1 2 min 39 sec 2 min 26 sec
PL> Pass 2 2 min 39 sec 2 min 25 sec
PL>
PL> The time was rounded to the nearest second, and there will
PL> be some overhead for the command processor as well as the
PL> HD.
PL>
PL> It would appear that the Toshiba is about 9.3% faster than
PL> the Panasonic; when the various overheads involved is taken
PL> into account (a possible cause of a transfer rate of approx
PL> 240Kb/sec for the Toshiba, a lot less then the rate
PL> 330Kb/sec), it is close to the expected 10% faster spec
PL> rate of the Toshiba over the Panasonic.
This is the type of result I expected out of the NEC 74-1 tests I did...
You also have the situation where it is possible for the SCSI CD-ROM
to transfer DIRECTLY to the SCSI HDD... I'd really like to know if
that's the way things go under OS/2....
Are you able to re-do the tests using an IDE HDD to see if the Toshiba
takes a performance hit in having to change interfaces like the
Panasonic is already doing??
PL> In conclusion, there are probably not much difference
PL> between the two interface for the *same rated transfer
PL> rate*, but there exist faster SCSI units (and more
PL> expensive too) than the AT bus.
I think I'm getting my AHA1540B back next week, with a 300Mb SCSI
HDD.... I'll hook the NEC 55 I have up too and give it a whirl!
PL> Side not; the Panasonic initially had problems with the
PL> tray due to the motor and laser transport coming loose in
PL> transit, and obstruting the tray (noted also was the
PL> abundance of flexible plastic, and the poorer enclosure
PL> which may not be as dust proof).
Seems like someone packed it pooly and someone else handled it roughly!
Interesting results! Definitely gives food for thought if the user will
be doing CD-ROM work under OS/2.....
Cheers!
o
/U\
... OFFLINE 1.52
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From: MATTHEW SALMOND Number: 4452
To: PHIL TREVORROW Date: 09/30/93 10:53p
Subj: Cd's for personal use Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PT> Most people I know that use CDROM are Sysops. I don't know a single
PT> person who bought one just to play games or whatever. I do know one
PT> person who is going to get one for his personal use but it's part of a
PT> package deal he's getting.
PT> As for why people like them, it's obvious why BBS' use them. On the
PT> personal side, you have things like Encyclopedias, dictionaries, road
PT> atlas', games, etc. Plus CD's are cheaper than disks.
Sorry (not... well maybe just a little bit) for butting in but you say you
don't know many people who buy cd-roms for personal use? Seems a bit
pointless getting a cd-rom just for a bulletin board so other people can
enjoy using it while you watch (unless you are really philanthropic).
As you mentioned it sure beats buying disks especially when you're into
shareware and gifs in a big way.
Butting out now. See ya later
Matt.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
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From: IAN BISHOP Number: 4453
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/28/93 1:30p
Subj: Cd-Rom Questions Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
BH>>Wish I was there this morning. Eating a "bikki" with a tad of Vegamite,
BH>>a Cherry Ripe, a hunk of Violet Crumble, a taste of Billy Tea, and
BH>>perhaps toward the end of the day, a cold 4F. If my hands got dirty, I
BH>>could use that wonderful Sard soap to wash my hands. AHHHHHhhhhhh for
BH>>the land of enchantment.....
Yeah, it certainly is the life. A chance to put down that moderator's
baseball bat for a few hours, enjoying a nice cold XXXX (let's see if
the flame mongers get any wierd connotations out of that one!!!) and
generally enjoying the sun.
Seriously though, could you possibly forward a listing of the products
you carry to our company. I would greatly appreciate it.
Bishop's Computers
P.O. Box 134
Inala, Qld, 4077
Australia
BH>>:-)
BH>>Guilty of dreaming for only a moment, and not moderating!
Guilty? Guilty!?? It's not a crime to enjoy oneself for a moment, Bob.
Hopefully you'll enjoy yourself some more when people start obeying the
damn rules. I'm sick of seeing my packets half full of flame,
counterflame, and moderator fire extingishers!!
Regards, Ian
* OLX 2.1 TD * Censor: Someone who knows more than he thinks you should!
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From: IAN BISHOP Number: 4454
To: ALL AUSTRALIANS Date: 09/30/93 10:46a
Subj: Bishop's Computers Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Bishop's Computers are Still Active in the Echo. Hopefully some of our
supply problems are now resolved :-)
N.O. 9, SMS3, Clipart Heaven, Encyc. of Clipart, Pixel Perfect $60
World Vision, Libris Britanica, Total Baseball, Comptons Golf $70
Walnut Creek Range $30
CD-ROM Hardware Also Available. Call us and ask for unlisted products.
* OLX 2.1 TD * Bishop's Computers - (07) 372-2838 anytime.........
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From: ROBERT STEPHENS Number: 4455
To: DAVID SCHENK Date: 09/29/93 7:07p
Subj: CD-ROM's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DD>> how many bit is the matsumi?
RS> 32
DS>Are you shure ?
No, I was joking, either 8 or 16, its probably 8 tho .
-Robert
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* Origin: Lake BBS. NSW, Australia (049) 562853 (3:622/407)
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From: ANDRE QUEREE Number: 4456
To: SCOTT CONDER Date: 09/30/93 3:25a
Subj: PANASONIC CD NO MORE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Scott Conder to Kevin Martin <=-
SC> Kevin & Chris,
SC>
SC> Excuse my butting in, but I called 800-742-8086 almost 2 weeks ago and
SC> a guy named David told me the same thing, that Panasonic no longer
SC> makes CD ROM drives. They still market Magneto Optical and phase
SC> change optical drives, but no more CDROM. Too bad, I was thinking of
SC> buying one, but not if they're out of the market. Service problems
SC> down the road are something I don't need. If anyone finds out that
SC> this info is wrong, let me know.
SC> Scott
Panasonic aren't out of business (are aren't likely too be) - you wouldn't
have any service difficulties!
... Does anyone REALLY read these stupid taglines?
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 4457
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 10/01/93 10:06a
Subj: Sbpro, Does It Have A Li Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE> rate.... He did say, though, that he believed that it would cost
RE> approximately the same as the Texel SCSI CD-ROM drive.... That's
RE>around
RE> *TWICE* the price of the CR562B!
This is the drive I have, the teXel DM3024, I paid about $AUS 480. This
is only about $80 more than the Panasonic, which I bought in a SB16asp
kit, but I beleive can be had mail order for around $400.
My guess is that the 533 will probably sell for something like $600.
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From: RICK ASHWORTH Number: 4458
To: MODERATOR Date: 10/01/93 3:27a
Subj: Backbone status? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Moderator!
Currently your area, CDROM, is listed on the FIDONET.SS (Southern Star) area
listing, but not the FIDONET.NA (backbone) listing. During the next few
months, many of the FidoNet individual networks are switching over to Planet
Connect for the backbone echo feed for $40 a month for a hub system. Our net
is doing that next week..
PC will only carry the FidoNet.NA echoes, which means that every net that goes
that route will lose access to CDROM (as well as about 12 other echoes). Can
you see about getting an .NA listing (your NEC or REC can help you there..) so
we don't lose you?
Rick
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* Origin: DataNet HST/V32b Erlanger, KY (606) 727-DNET (1:108/90)
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From: DON BOSMAN Number: 4459
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 10/01/93 12:10a
Subj: Natnl Telephone Director Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GP>LG>7 disk CDRom set - All phone numbers in USA, completely
GP>LG>indexed- NOT the sho
GP>LG>2 disk un-indexed set that sells for $99.
GP>I've got the 3-disc set, and I'm curious what additional index the
GP>7-disc set comes with to make it worth the hassle of searching seven
GP>discs instead of just two! (The only thing I've found patently wrong is
GP>that a lot of the business entries are missing the city name from their
GP>listing).
The seven disc set is divided by region. Six regions for the country.
North East, Mid Atlantic, Mid West, South, West, Pacific
plus the Business Edition
If you wanted to search for a given name over the whole country, you
will have to swap discs. If you want a particular state, no problem,
except for the missing data.
I can NOT recommend this set to anyone who has a serious need for the
information this set should be accurate about, but isn't.
___
X OLX 2.2 X Backup not found: (A)bort (R)etry (F)oul your shorts
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From: DON BOSMAN Number: 4460
To: KURT EASTABROOKS Date: 09/30/93 11:49p
Subj: Soundblaster Cd-Rom Driv Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
KE>does the panasonic 562b allow multiple drives off of one
KE>card? I have 3 alder Hitachi's that are finially giving up
Daisy chain up to four. Drive 0 can even be a 522.
___
X OLX 2.2 X All hope abandon, ye who expect intelligence replies here
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From: TIM KLAN Number: 4461
To: CHARLES STRUSZ @ 970/201 Date: 09/29/93 9:27p
Subj: Night owls Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CS>You'll find a few, but much better than their contemporary disks. I haven't
>at my 2 or 4 in ages, but 5,6,7,8, and 9 are all in continuos use on my BBS
>I figure less than 2% across the series, less than 1% if you omit version up
CS>Some disks which compliment the Night Owl with very little duplication are G
>and the Pier Series.
Check the 'complementing' stats again.. Pier 2 Has 19-20% (close to
150 megs!) of files that are also on Night Owls9
...tim klan
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From: TIM KLAN Number: 4462
To: DAN POLIVY Date: 09/29/93 9:30p
Subj: Night owl 9 cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DP>Does anyone have Night Owl 9 CDROM for sale? I am looking for a copy.
Yeppers, I've got that disk for $25 if interested call bbs in tagline or
(814)825-2283 eves..
...tim klan
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* Origin: Tim's BBS * Erie, PA * 814-825-1731 * (1:2601/566)
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From: ERNEST PRESSLEY Number: 4463
To: DONNIE RAYNOR Date: 10/01/93 7:43p
Subj: Mitsumi CD-DRIVE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DR> I have a Mutsumi drive LU005S for sell. It has about two hours of run
DR> time on it. With manual, software, controller card and drive in box. I
DR> will ship to you for $165.00 I need a double speed drive. If interested
DR> leave me a message here.
Will the Mitsumi drive controller handle more than one drive on it or do i have
to keep buying controllers each time I add a Cd-rom!!
Ernest
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From: ERNEST PRESSLEY Number: 4464
To: SCOTT DAVIS Date: 10/01/93 7:48p
Subj: Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SD> Sounds more like the LU-002S to me.. (Which I'm running under OS/2 2.1)..
Will that allow two Mitsumi's on one card or do i have to get a card for each
cd-rom drive.
Ernest
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From: TERRI SATCHELL Number: 4465
To: QUINN LARKIN Date: 10/01/93 12:30a
Subj: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* In a message originally to Adrian Salas, Quinn Larkin said:
> >If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave your
> >mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
PLEASE add me to you list also
Mail to:
Terri Satchell
P.O. BOX 510296
St. Louis, MO.
63151
Thank you.
--- GEcho 1.01+
* Origin: OPTOMETRY ONLINE [FidoNet] (1:100/514)
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From: PAT RILEY Number: 4466
To: ALEX MOTTRAM Date: 10/01/93 11:49a
Subj: Sony CDU-31a Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AM**Does anyone have the _REAL_ specs on this drive? One day I got a wild hair
**up my butt to buy another CDrom drive for my BBS (already have a mitsumi on
**another machine) and bought the Fusion CD-16 system at Wal-Mart (wanted a
**16bit soundcard also, so it was sort of a deal).. The manuals, of course,
**tell you nothing, and CD-Speed software tends to give varying results. I'v
**seen 130kb/s to 164kb/s using MPCWizard and the speed test on MegaDemo CD.
**What I'm really interested in is the access time in ms.
490 Ms Access time.
I sell em, but not very many.
Sorry to bear painful news.
* QMPro 1.50 41-2633 * Adult: Stopped growing at the ends, but not the middle.
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From: KEN UHRICK Number: 4467
To: NIEL EYDE Date: 09/24/93 11:06a
Subj: Re: $99 CD ROM DRIVE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Pat Rickerson to Niel Eyde <=-
PR> Hello Niel!
PR> 22 Sep 93, Niel Eyde writes to All:
NE> For any lurkers interested in getting into CDROM, check out your local
NE> Radio Shack. I've just picked up one of there CDR-1000 for $99. The
NE> drive won't break any speed records, but if your interested in shareware
NE> CD's you may want to check it out. By the way, it is also MPC compliant,
NE> although it will run a tad-bit slow. There are closed-out so you way
PR> have
NE> to do some digging. In my case I had to prepay for one, and they got it
NE> in within a couple of days.
PR> Sure isn't like that here in Texas! (Checked it out today, they
PR> thought I was nuts)
PR> Pat
PR> -!- GoldED 2.40
PR> ! Origin: Thin Ice BBS * Corpus Christi, Texas (1:160/9)
IN fl I TRYED A r.s. THAY TRYED to sell me a cdr-1100 for 299.00
and than thay tryed to sell me a hole computer
i told tham to to to some ware
... * System Operators do it on a Net!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 4468
To: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Date: 10/01/93 5:22a
Subj: Re: I want to buy a CDROM drive... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 20 Sep 93 13:58:00, I heard Giuliano Maciocci Jr. shout to Dealers:
GM> I am now able to buy a CD-ROM drive, namely a Panasonic CR562b. I have a
GM> 386DX/40 with 4MB of memory and a basic Sound Blaster Pro.
GM>
GM> I would like to order the drive from the US (I am in Zimbabwe) within the n
GM> week or two. I would like all interested in selling a NEW CDROM of the abov
GM> model and who are able to ship it here to send me, through E-Mail, their fa
GM> numbers, prices and bundled software offers. I will buy from the best offer
GM> soon after.
GM>
GM> Thank you all and cheers.
GM>
GM>
GM> *************
GM> ***** ****
GM> ** Raver
Send me a Fax Number Or a Voice Number, and would be happy to get you all of
the info.
.....|<evin
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4469
To: RUSSELL HARDIE Date: 10/01/93 1:02a
Subj: CD-ROM Analyzor Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RH>A while ago (like mid July), you posted this message showing % of duplicates
RH>between popular CD-ROMs. You used a program you refer to as "CD-ROM
DUPLIATE
RH>ANALYZOR". I would love to get hold of a copy of this - do you know any BBS
Russell,
You can download it from our BBS at 509-457-0206. I will be making a new
comparison chart, just as soon as I have all the new CD's in hand. (Still
waiting on Night Owl 10)
Later,
.\\ike
---
* SLMR 2.1a * I think my data transmission is low on fluid.
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* Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101)
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4470
To: ALL Date: 10/01/93 1:02a
Subj: NEW CD TITLES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
| Starvector Sales Bulletin #1: NEW CD ARRIVALS |
CANADIAN SHAREWARE * Nice job by Betacorp on this new shareware CD!....$22
MAC MULTIMEDIA SPACE * A M/M space adventure for Macintosh only........$39
STREET ATLAS v2 * Finally, we have an update with tons of new data!....$95
PIER 3 * 650+mb of all new material w/ no dupes to Pier 1 or 2.........$39
FIREARMS REFERENCE * Details on 600+ guns w/ 256-color images..........$30
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)
---
* SLMR 2.1a * I used to have a life. Now I have Windows.
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4471
To: ALL CD-ROM DEALERS Date: 10/01/93 1:03a
Subj: DEALER PRICING! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
ATTENTION CD-ROM DEALERS!
-------------------------
Starvector is pleased to announce our joint venture with The Pier Exchange
and Damar Enterprises, as distributors for their respective lines of high-
quality, superior shareware CD-ROM titles. We now have the following CD
titles available for resale, with EXCELLENT mix-n-match dealer pricing:
Pier 3 * Pier 2 * Pier 1 * CD OS/2Box * CD Powerbox 1.01 * CD Winbox
If you are interested in any of these titles, please give us a call!
Starvector Software * 509-457-2892 (voice) * 509-457-2966 (fax)
---
* SLMR 2.1a * ... He who hesitates is frost. - Eskimo proverb
--- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00
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From: NEIL BERGMAN Number: 4472
To: DEAN DROLET Date: 10/01/93 7:03p
Subj: DISCOUNT CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
**B00000SEND ME YOU MAILING ADDRESS...AND I'LL MAIL YOU A LIST.
THANKS,
NEIL BERGMAN
SHORELINE CD-ROM
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* Origin: The Inglewood RoofTop BBS (1:102/535)
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From: CHRIS DONNEGAN Number: 4473
To: COREY BICCUM Date: 10/01/93 9:47p
Subj: PANASONIC CD NO MORE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CB>Well, I just baught a dual spin panasonic
CB>today.. and it was cheap.. so what gives? am I screwed ou tof a waran
CB>what? What does this mean? Anyone?
Ask your reseller. He/she probably has a warranty & service program set
up.
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From: CHRIS DONNEGAN Number: 4474
To: JIM CUMMINGS Date: 10/01/93 9:55p
Subj: GOVT CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JC> CD-Rom with "U.S. Code, containing the g
JC>and permanent laws of the United States" for # 30.00 from: Catalog SB-
JC>Government Printing Office Superintendent of Documents Box 371954 Pitt
JC>PA 15250-7954
Thanks Jim!
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--- QM v1.26/a
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From: CHRIS DONNEGAN Number: 4475
To: STEAN SNYMAN Date: 10/01/93 9:58p
Subj: PANASONIC CD NO MORE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SS> CD> Has anyone else heard this?
SS>
SS>Nope.. If this is the case I'm KILLING my dealer tomorrow.... [g]
Ask him about warranty and service...Panasonic told me that if I bought
one of their units from an "independent" dealer (as opposed to buying it
in a package from Creative Labs or another OEM marketer) that I was NOT
eligible for Panasonic warranties, service or technical support.
As a matter of fact, even the OEM units are handled outside Panasonic
channels...
--- WinQwk 2.0b#995
--- QM v1.26/a
* Origin: Your source for TBBS enhancement software! (1:322/360)
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 4476
To: LEE NOGA Date: 10/01/93 1:36p
Subj: Re: ACTOR AND ACTRESS CD-ROM! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Lee Noga to Clarke Ulmer <=-
CU>> PREMIERE OF ACTOR AND ACTRESS COLLECTION VOLUME 1, NO. 1
LN> No copyright concerns? We looked into this arena as well, and what we
LN> could get licensed was a 'Skimpy' collection--Congrats on making the
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Gee, I'd thought the skimpier, the better! ((:> JUST KIDDIN'
... Do what you will with this tagline, just don't bother me about it!
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* Origin: Hard Disc Cafe | Houston Texas | (713) 589-2690 | (1:106/30.0)
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 4477
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 10/01/93 1:43p
Subj: Your Taglines Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Brice Fleckenstein to Robert Powell <=-
BF> * SLMR 2.1a * Catalyst (n): An alphabetical list of Cats.
You seem to have a *LOT* of cat-chy taglines 'bout cats. As a lover of
felines myseff, I jus' have to steal one now and again. Hope you don't mind.
... RAM = Rarely Adequate Memory
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* Origin: Hard Disc Cafe | Houston Texas | (713) 589-2690 | (1:106/30.0)
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From: KEN MATTHEWS Number: 4478
To: RICH RUBIN Date: 09/30/93 10:55a
Subj: encarta Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Rich, I'lll take Encarta for 105 if it has the Rgistration Card,,
Please leave phone number or adress where to send the check!
Ken 412 793 9152, I'm in PGH, pa!
thanks..
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* Origin: NorthStar Pitt *XPRESS* Pgh, PA (412-967-9452) (1:129/81.0)
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From: CARL SCHULTZ Number: 4479
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/30/93 9:20p
Subj: Re: kings quest 7 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
/q
-> >> YO boris....
->
-> >> The date is 8/9/93 and the cd-rom 2 this day has not come yet.
-> >> R u having problems??!! Hey if u need 2 ask or there is sum >>
-> prob. DONT FAX just dont :) leave me a message is echo . hmm.. >>
-> Pleez be quick 2 reply if u reply coz my subscription is
-> >> nearly up - 13 dayz cheers l8ta
->
-> Your order was faxed to us on 93/09/02 at 14:55 hrs. Your order was
-> proccessed the next day and shippied via AIR MAIL at 10:48 hrs.
-> Normal travel time is 7 - 10 days and that depends on customes as
-> well.
-> I would think you should receive your order within the next few days.
->
-> You have our fax number, please contact us if you have any further
-> questions or problems.
->
-> Boris Osadciw
->
-> ... Every Silver lining has a clone around it.
-> --- FMail 0.96
->
-> * Origin: Silver Xpress Mail System (1:157/46)
You have Kings Quest 7?!!! Can I get it from you, whats it like?
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From: CARL SCHULTZ Number: 4480
To: TIM CANFIELD Date: 09/30/93 9:29p
Subj: Kings quest 6 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Hey anyone have KQ6 on CD-Rom?
->
-> I have it and am playing it, but I am stuck and am wondering if
-> anyone else has a clue?
->
-> 1> Can't pass the boiling water.
->
-> 2> Can't seem to get into the castle... (tried 3 times, restarted 3
-> that is)
->
-> Leave me a note - if ya can help -
-> Candid Kid
->
-> --- WM v3.10 [Beta]
->
-> * Origin: Freezing Point BBS - WDNet HQ - Mpls MN - USR DS 16.8k
-> (1:282/85)
Yo Kid it's the Annihilator of games here, simple!!! Whats kq6 like, eh? Well
for your probalem (Proable goten the clue already) The freezing water add
frozen cabbage, Isle of wonder. Castle you can get in three ways one show ring
to guards, two use Beauty's clothes pass as a maid (Clothes Isle of the beast)
three magic paint spell (All engrediants found at the end of the game) So TTYL
if you have any problems at ANY sierra games, I'm your man. (Or other games
just give me a shout!!)
P.S. I've seen you on other BBS's to (On you on WGH Headcouters or Basement
BBS?) You ever played The 7th Guest? Great game if you don't have I'll even
lend it to for awhile, depending on where about you live.
-Carl- or -Annihilator- also seen as Terminator-800- TTYL have fun.
--- Squish v1.01
* Origin: Winnipeg PC UG BBS - Winnipeg, Mb. (204) 334-8800 (1:348/204)
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From: CARL SCHULTZ Number: 4481
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/30/93 9:30p
Subj: Discount cd-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> SHORELINE CD-ROM'S DISCOUT PRICES
->
-> These are just a few examples of our low prices...We have over 300
-> titles in stock.
->
-> WING COMMANDER & ULTIMA VI $15.53
-> WORLD ATLAS (MPC OR DOS) $15.53
-> KODAK PHOTO CD $15.53
-> ANIMALS MPC (SAN DIEGO ZOO) $20.70
-> DAGGER OF AMON RA $32.78 TOO MANY MORE TO
-> LIST!!!
-> KINGS QUEST V $16.74
-> LOOM $14.66 FOR A COMPLETE CATALOG,
-> LEAVE
-> SUPER SHAREWARE/w/SUPER BBS $31.05 E-mail ADDRESS OR
-> POSTAL
-> TERRORIST GROUP PROFILES (CIA) $31.91 ADDRESS!!!!
-> NIGHT OWL 9 $30.19
-> UP ALL NIGHT $18.11
->
-> ***ADULT***
-> ASIAN LADIES $31.91 (BBS READY)
-> THINGS CHANGE:MY FIRST TIME $37.09 (XXX 80 MIN FULL MOTION
-> VIDEO)
-> MOVING FANTASIES $19.85 (BBS READY)
-> VISUAL FANTASIES $19.85 (BBS READY)
-> VOLCANO $32.78 (BBS READY)
-> SOUTHERN BEAUTIES $31.91 (BBS READY)
-> STAREWARE $31.91 (BBS READY)
-> STORM I,II,III $22.38 (EACH!) BBS READY
-> HIDDEN OBSESSIONS $48.00 (FULL MOTION VIDEO)
-> SEXXCAPADES-THE MOVIE $44.20 (FULL MOTION VIDEO)
-> MY PRIVATE COLLECTION $32.78 (BBS READY)
-> DEEP THROAT $42.76 FULL MOTION VIDEO
-> MAN POWER $41.00 BBS READY
->
-> WE ACCEPT VISA, MC, AX & DISCOVER. CHECK OR M.O. (ADD 3% FOR
-> CREDIT CARDS
-> $4.00 S&H FOR ORDERS OF 1-5..$1.00 PER EACH ADDITIONAL DISC.
->
-> SHORELINE CD-ROM PHONE: (310) 652-2858
-> 1206 S. HOLT AVE. #1
-> LOS ANGELES, CA 90035 FAX: (310) 652-2608
->
-> * RM 1.0 * Eval Day 1 * RoboMail -- The next generation QWK
-> compatible reader
-> --- GOMail v1.2 [DEMO] 09-18-93
-> * Origin: Compu-Net * 310-822-0038 * SoCal's Largest (1:102/523)
Can you send me a list.
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 4482
To: ROBERT POWELL Date: 10/01/93 8:01a
Subj: Re: OS/2 CD-ROM SUPPORT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RP> Hey, this is.... uh... different. There must be two
RP> people with the same name on this BBS. I keep reading
RP> mail about CD-ROMs and other neato stuff that I never
RP> wrote... veddy intelesting...
RP> RLP
You are not simply logged on to a BBS. This is an echo, which means
that this conference is distributed not just to the people who log on to the
BBS you are using, but to BBS's in many places. In this particular case, the
CD-ROM echo, the distribution is world wide, so if you will look at the origin
lines, you will see messages from as far away as Australia. I happen to be in
San Antonio, Tx. Since there are literally tens of thousands of people writing
in these echoes, the odds of coming across someone else with your name is
fairly good.
Les
--- EZPoint V2.2
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From: JAY HARRISON Number: 4483
To: ALEX MOTTRAM Date: 09/30/93 5:01a
Subj: Sony CDU-31a Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Alex!
29 Sep 93, Alex Mottram writes to All:
AM> Does anyone have the _REAL_ specs on this drive? One day I got a wild
AM> hair up my butt to buy another CDrom drive for my BBS (already have a
AM> mitsumi on another machine) and bought the Fusion CD-16 system at Wal-Mart
AM> (wanted a 16bit soundcard also, so it was sort of a deal).. The manuals,
AM> of course, tell you nothing, and CD-Speed software tends to give varying
AM> results. I've seen 130kb/s to 164kb/s using MPCWizard and the speed test
AM> on MegaDemo CD. What I'm really interested in is the access time in ms.
SONY's Users Guide on this drive yields the following:
Data Transfer Rate: Sustained rate - 150 Kbytes/sec
. Burst Rate - 2.1 Mbytes/sec
Access Time: Full stroke - 0.95 sec (typical)
. Average (random) - 0.49 sec (typical)
SONY's Users Guide for this unit is part # 3-755-260-14(1) dated 1992
Hope this helps.
AM> Thanks,
Your welcome.
Jay
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From: RHEZA JINA Number: 4484
To: JEAN-HUGUES ROYER Date: 09/23/93 6:17p
Subj: Bible related cds Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Jean-Hugues,
On 09-19-93 03:14, Jean-Hugues Royer wrote to All :
JR> I'd like to know if someone knows a Bible related CD with a french
JR> translation ?
There's a CD named "Holy Bible" (or something like that..) which contains
the Bible in several languages (French, German, Spanish, English), an
English translation of the Koran, and other things, totalling 191 Megs.
You can buy it in France from DP TOOL CLUB, BP 745, 59657 VILLENEUVE D'ASCQ
for 129 FF.
Hope it helps.
... When in doubt, press Ctrl-Alt-Del.
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From: TAPANI TUOMINEN Number: 4485
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/26/93 8:15a
Subj: Caddies Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
A message from Gordon Peterson to Tapani Tuominen on 09-20-93:
GP> TT>GP> ARGH! This awful, stupid cr*p of Windows and its non-compat
GP> TT>GP> character set mapping junk again rears its ugly head. I sho
GP> have guessed. :-(((
GP>
GP> TT>No, no you got me wrong! It was problem with DOS-characters,
GP> everything works smooth and nicely otherwise under Windows. :-D
GP>
GP> Yeah, as long as EVERYBODY AND EVERYTHING runs under Windows forever
GP> :-( Which simply isn't the case.
But even your dishwasher will run under Windows very soon... at least if
we believe Microsoft. The truth is that Windows is here to stay.
Especially lots' of CD-ROM:s benefit of Windows. It is very hard for me to
imagine how to use say DOS WP and some electronic reference libraries on
CD:s together. With plain DOS it is simply extremely clumsy.
Tapani Tuominen
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From: COR GLOUDIE Number: 4486
To: RONALD KEENEY Date: 09/28/93 2:30a
Subj: 2 or More Mitsumi's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Has anyone ran 2 or more Mitsumi ROMS on a system.
I'v got 3 running great!
> If anyone has been running more than 1, on their bbs, I should
> would like to know their setup.
Easy!!
Look below!!!
DEVICE=C:\DOS\CDROM\MITSUM8\MTMCDS.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:300 /A:0
This one was the very first mitsumi 8 bits
DEVICE=C:\DOS\CDROM\MITSUM16\MTMCDS.SYS /D:MSCD002 /P:310 /A:0
This one was the first mitsumi 16 bits
DEVICE=C:\DOS\CDROM\MITSUM16\MTMCDS.SYS /D:MSCD003 /P:360 /A:0
This one was the second mitsumi 16 bits
DEVICE=C:\DOS\CDROM\PIONEER\DRD60ASP.SYS /D:MSCD000 /N:6 /S:1 /C:CDP
This one is for my Pioneer minichanger
DEVICE=C:\DOS\CDROM\FDSCSI\FDSCSI.MSC /P:340 /A:0 /M:64 /T:5 /I:3
This one is my good old LMS 212
As you can see I've used 2 different directories for the mitsumis
1 one for the 8 and 1 for the 16 bits versions as the software is not
compatible ....
And I've used for the 16 bits the Polling driver which is a little
slower than the first but.... it's always faster than 19.200 baud
for the BBS. (my users NEVER complain about speed or things like that)
The advantage of the polling driver is that it consumes less memory
and there's no problems anymore with other cards who could be in the way.
Hope this helps!
Regards,
Cor Gloudie.
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From: JURRIE HOBERS Number: 4487
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/26/93 12:48p
Subj: CD-ROM SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AS> * QMPro 1.51 * ROM CONNECTION CD-SALES Voice 619-479-8688 10am-7pm
AS> PST
Do you also have a FAX number??
Please give me that numer if....
Greets, Jurrie!
y
... WHAAAAT!!! Heb je nu nog geen cd-rom speler!!!!?????!!!
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From: JURRIE HOBERS Number: 4488
To: SAM BECKWITH Date: 09/26/93 12:49p
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SB> <<< Call us for items not listed >>>
Do you have a fax numer too?????
Greetx, Jurrie!
... WHAAAAT!!! Heb je nu nog geen cd-rom speler!!!!?????!!!
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From: JURRIE HOBERS Number: 4489
To: KEVIN PLUMMER Date: 09/26/93 1:05p
Subj: Dealers Wanted! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
KP> ==========>>>>>> W A N T E D D E A L E R S <<<<<<===========
KP> Wanting people to become Dealers, Or to distribute to Dealers
KP> Call Mutli-Media and ask for:
KP> Susan
KP> Cheapest Prices around !!!!
KP> Or send Name, A fax Number, Or phone Number to where you can be
KP> reached to 1:231/570
KP> 1-800-865-5354
KP> =================================================================
I am interested!
Do you have a fax numer for me?
Jurrie Hobers
... WHAAAAT!!! Heb je nu nog geen cd-rom speler!!!!?????!!!
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From: CRASH MAN Number: 4490
To: ALL Date: 09/24/93 5:21p
Subj: Scsi or scsi/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have seen some ads claiming that their devices are SCSI/2
compliant. My question is, what is the difference (if any) between
SCSI and SCSI/2? Are the Adaptek AHA-1540C/1542C SCSI or SCSI/2?
Does it matter? Can a SCSI/2 CD be connected to SCSI and vice
versa?
Thanks to all those that reply.
* SLMR 2.1a * Psychic Convention cancelled due to unforeseen problems.
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 4491
To: RICK ASHWORTH Date: 10/03/93 5:39p
Subj: Backbone status? Refer: 6938
Read: NO Private: No
-> Currently your area, CDROM, is listed on the FIDONET.SS (Southern Sta
-> listing, but not the FIDONET.NA (backbone) listing. During the next
CDROM is in my copy of FIDONET.NA...
tim
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From: KEVIN MARTIN Number: 4492
To: ALL Date: 09/22/93 8:46p
Subj: CD Rom drives Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I've got two Sony CDU535 CD Roms drives with controller, cables, hookup sheet,
and driver disk for sale. They are great bbs drives as they
are fast and dependable. You can run 4 of these drives on the Sony bus, they
are NOT SCSI. This model has a headphone jack on the front, and RCA jacks
on the back of the controller card.
$300 firm (for all), plus shipping ($5 for UPS/Prepay, $30 for Fedex/COD)
Call me at 680-9060 after 6:00 pm, or send netmail.
Kevin
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From: GLENN LOFTUS Number: 4493
To: COREY BICCUM Date: 09/30/93 9:33p
Subj: Re: 7th guest? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> "All!" bellowed Corey,
> "Have you heard about 7th guest??"
CB> Anyone know any secrets to getting 7th guest to run? I don't have
CB> enough base memory.
I downloaded an update from GEnie so that it only requires 450K
of conventional memory to run. The update also improved support
for the SB16ASP sound card I'm using.
Look for T7GFIX3.ZIP and T7GF3B.ZIP on a board near you.
If you have the Diamond Viper VLB, make sure to run VPRMODE VESA
before you try to run The 7th Guest.
--Glenn...
... He who dies with the most taglines wins!
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From: KERRY ARCHER Number: 4494
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 10/03/93 4:15a
Subj: 7th Guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Ashwin,
Saw your note about buffer memory, MSCDEX, etc. as possible culprits in 7th
Guest; I find in a related matter, that my NEC CDR-84 skips virtually all the
time when playing audio...is there a common fix for this? Is there some
command line that should be incorporated in one's config.sys or autoexec.bat
that might address this?
Many thanks!
-Kerry
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From: LOIS FRANKEL Number: 4495
To: BOB HALL Date: 10/01/93 11:32p
Subj: X-rated cd-rom Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
On 09-22-93 14:44 Bob Hall said something about X-rated cd-rom, to which I
reply:
BH> I am so impressed with your message, (especially the words "in defense
BH> of the moderator") if you will call me, 1-800-550-3503, I will send
BH> you a free CDROM!!!!!
Gee, I defended you weeks ago, and never got free anything!
... It is helpful to use both legs when standing
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From: LOIS FRANKEL Number: 4496
To: ALL Date: 10/01/93 11:32p
Subj: Toolworks Encyclopedia Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I had an interesting experience installing the Software Toolworks
Encyclopedia (DOS version 2.0). The package came with 2 floppies, one of
each size. I used the 3 1/2 inch floppy to install the access software.
It wouldn't recognize the mouse and wouldn't display the images. Also,
the configuration program (needed to change the colors, printer port,
and, most importantly, the number of "hits" that could be displayed from
any search) wouldn't work. Well, I tried everything I could think of:
commenting out various parts of config.sys and autoexec.bat, trying on a
different computer, using different DOS versions, etc. No luck. Then I
wondered if one of the floppy files was damaged, so, since I had 2
floppies, I ran comparisons on them. NONE of them compared, and one disk
had files dated a year later than the other one. Turns out the 3 1/2"
disk was version 1 and the 5 1/4" was version 2, and when I tried to
configure, I was probably using ver 2's config program on ver 1. Anyway,
it all works fine now, but for the life of me I can't figure out why the
floppies were different versions. Silly me. I assumed that when 2
floppies of different sizes come with a piece of software, that they are
intended to be interchangeable. Live & learn!
... "Why Johnny can't read"...now available on VHS!
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From: PAUL LEWIN Number: 4497
To: WILLIAM FERNANDEZ Date: 10/01/93 4:30p
Subj: Cd Kits Prices <Aust>e Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
WF> I just purchased the Panasonic 563 for 379.00, it came with a
WF> 16bit sound card, speakers, and 8 cd's......
Where did you purchase this package from????? Sounds interesting...
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From: CAPTAIN JAMES T KIRK Number: 4498
To: ALL Date: 10/02/93 8:48p
Subj: CD-ROM for BBS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
To whom it may concern,
I am now Co-SysOp of a BBS (StarLab BBS [819-561-2987]
and we have a CD-ROM, so after long hours of thinking it over (ok. maybe short
minites but who's counting) we would like to buy BBS ready CD-ROM's and would
appreciate any and all response. If you can help, please leave a message with
either a price list or a place where a price list is available, this in turn
would be appreciated greatly and maybe, who knows it might help you out to by
selling a CD.
Thank you for your time & Co-Operation
Fred Cantin
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 4499
To: STEVE GOYER Date: 10/03/93 7:57a
Subj: Re: Oem Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Steve Goyer to All <=-
SG> Can someone tell me what OEM is (or stands for)?
^^^
Original Equipment Manufacturer. Means who actually MADE the thing, not
necessarily who markets it (perhaps under a different name).
... Drop your carrier ... we have you surrounded!
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From: STEVE STEWART Number: 4500
To: ALL Date: 10/02/93 11:54a
Subj: Encylopedia CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Looking for a real good Encyclopedia CD with full motion video in it. Any
suggestions would be appreciated.
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From: BENNY FOSTER Number: 4501
To: DAAN VAN.ROOIJEN Date: 10/02/93 9:37a
Subj: How much to cut own CD? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> A relation of mine is considering publishing his own monthly or bi-mo
-> CD-ROM. It will contain app 100 MB of data which will be supplied to
-> producer on floppy disks. He will need app 1,000 copies per CD-ROM.
As of July of this year, Sony was doing the mastering and everything
for a startup fee of 1000.00 (first timers only, 1400.00 afterwards).
After that, there is a $1.72 per copy charge for the cd's. Naturally
there is also extra charges if you want extra fast (24 hour) turn
around times etc... Yo might also give Disk Manuf a try. They might be
a little better. Also another option is to purchasing a write once cd
recorder for aprox 3,000-4,000 for the unit. It might cut down on the
cost a little. Also consider finding another way to send the data, as
floppys are not the best answer for large amounts of data and you
might end up paying more just due to that. Hope this helps a little.
(If you need phone numbers for Disk Manuf or Sony, drop me a note and
I'll send them to you.)
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From: BENNY FOSTER Number: 4502
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 10/02/93 9:43a
Subj: Mitsumi and DOS 6.0? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I had one guy tell me that the Mitsumi drive has some kind of problem
-> special configuration required or something to run under MS-DOS 6.0.
-> Anyone aware of this? Is he right? What's the scoop, guys?
Its not with the Mitsumi CD-Rom but with Dos 6. There is a new version
of Microsoft extensions (MSCDEX.EXE) that needs to be used. Under Dos
6, if you dont use the later mecdex.exe the unit will state incorrect
dos version when it goes through the autoexec.bat file.
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From: BENNY FOSTER Number: 4503
To: MARK RICHARDSON Date: 10/02/93 9:48a
Subj: WC2 cd Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I have been looking everywhere for Wing Commander 2 Deluxe on CD-RO
-> good price.. Is any one or business here selling it? BTW: it is t
-> with Special Ops 1,2 and the speech pack, NOT the one with Ultima 6
Actually I am shocked your local stores do not have it. I have not seen
it in OEM but I have had it on the shelf simce it came out. The new
versions come with Wing Commander II, Secret Missions 1 & 2, Speech
Pack, and Ultima Underworld. The price is 59.99 plus shipping. You can
reach us at S.E.C. Custom Computers in Louisville Ky (502) 448-9397.
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* Origin: SEC Custom Computers BBS - Louisville, (1:2320/330. (1:2320/330.0)
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From: ALAN WHITEMORE Number: 4504
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 10/01/93 2:07p
Subj: Panasonic 562b + Sb Mono Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Rowan!
RE> So, from that, unless I grab the SB 2.0 again for a "real" test, I'd
RE> have to say the SB 16 ASP was a far superior device for MM....
It would bloody well want to be for the price ;-)
RE> But then
RE> again, it could've been the way the samples were recorded....
I'm glad you also found the STW audio samples 'hissy' on the SB16 ASP.
I suppose hiss is what I meant by distortion.
RE> How's the sound on the 1963 Civil Rights March video clip?? (Just a
RE> long one selected at random!).....
Quite clear on the SB mono, though once again quite hissy.
Regards, Alan
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From: MARKUS GOEBEL Number: 4505
To: ALL Date: 10/01/93 11:22a
Subj: Pioneer CD ROM changer wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Gday,
I'm looking for a Pioneer 6-stack CD-ROM changer. Not sure whether I'll go for
the standard model or the quad-spin unit. I'm interested in prices from both
Australia as well as the USA. For prices from US, I'd need to know; does the
unit support 240volt mains power (50hz)?
Will look at new as well as second hand units.
Reply via netmail to me at 3:712/504 (Fido) or in this echo if you don't have
netmail access.
Regards, Markus.
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From: PAUL NIXON Number: 4506
To: ADIAN SALAS Date: 10/02/93 12:15a
Subj: Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi! I would appreciate greatly one of those catalogues. Please send
to:
Paul Nixon
PO BOX 539,
LILYDALE,
VIC, 3140
AUSTRALIA
Regards,
Paul.
... Paul Nixon. Paul.Nixon@f503.n635.z3.fidonet.org 3:635/503
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From: PAUL NIXON Number: 4507
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 10/02/93 12:17a
Subj: Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Neil,
Hi! I would appreciate greatly one of those catalogues. Please send
to:
Paul Nixon
PO BOX 539,
LILYDALE,
VIC, 3140
AUSTRALIA
Regards,
Paul.
... Paul Nixon. Paul.Nixon@f503.n635.z3.fidonet.org 3:635/503
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 4508
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/30/93 1:37p
Subj: Q'S On These New Panason Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE> 300Kbps. Poe Lim says he has seen spex for a CR533 (caddy drive) tha
RE> goes to 330Kbps...
These drives also have an improved access time of 290 ms.
They sound quite good.
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From: DON PUGH Number: 4509
To: ALL Date: 09/30/93 7:12a
Subj: MPC2 Specifications Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MPC 2 Standards (Courtesy of Don Pugh, Perth, Western Australia)
An MPC 2 compliant Personal Computer will
adhere to or exceed the following specifications:
486 SX-25 with 4 MBytes of RAM
160 MByte Hard Disk Drive
1.44 Mbyte Floppy Disk Drive
DOS version 3.1 or greater
Windows 3.1 or greater
Mouse
Graphics resolution of 640 x 480 pixels in
65536 colours or better
Please note this is recommended to be
S3 Windows accelerator card or better
Video transfer rate of 1.2 Megapixels per
second occupying not more than 40% of the CPU (processor) band width.
Sound Card
16 bit digital audio sound capabilities
- record and playback
8 Note Synthesiser
MIDI Playback
MIDI I/O
Joystick I/O
CD-ROM drive with
average seek time less than 400 milliseconds
Sustained transfer rate of 300 kbits per
second while using less than 40 % of the processor bandwidth
CD XA (Extended Architecture) ready
Multisession Capable -not relating to Photo CD
Digital to Analog Audio output
Recommended System Configuration
Computer system to have 8 MB RAM
CD-ROM Drive to have an onboard 64 KB buffer
CD-ROM to have XA (Extended Architecture) capability
- this allows for the interleaving of audio and video simultaneously
Audio Compression capability of IMA
Adapted AD-PCM (pulse code modulation) algorhythm.
Please note the Kodak Photo CD single and
multisession specifications are not part of the MPC2 specifications.
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From: ROBERT FROST Number: 4510
To: EVERYONE Date: 10/02/93 3:15p
Subj: Unknown NightowlCD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I was wondering if anyone could help me, with this CD i've got. It says
Night Owl's , instead of just nightowl.Is this an imitation, or just a mistake?
The CD was made in 1990 and it's number is PDSI-002-1.
Robert Frost, Lodestone
BBS, NSW, Australia . Sysop: Ian Mcwhirter.
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From: MARK BOWMAN Number: 4511
To: CARY HUMPHERIES Date: 10/01/93 12:03p
Subj: Re: MITSUMI OS/2 DRIVER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Chris Moore to Steve Proctor <=-
CM> Hi Steve
> How does one order the OS/2 CDROM Driver for the Mitsumi CDROM?
> I am interested in purchasing it.
CM> I have a copy on my BBS. If the BBS you're using lets you FREQ files,
CM> please feel free to request it from me (1:244/110). It's called
CM> OS2_LU.ZIP.
CM> Chris
CM> -!- TBBS v2.1/NM
CM> ! Origin: OSH Exchange - Hamilton, Ontario (1:244/110)
Cary,
I seen your message, Needing OS2 cd-rom driver for Mitsumi. Hope this
may help you out.
Mark Bowman.
... "What?!? This isn't the Files section?!?"
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From: BILL GOCHNOUR Number: 4512
To: ERIC ENGELMANN Date: 10/01/93 3:34p
Subj: Technical CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=>The way I heard it Eric Engelmann told All ...<=-
EE> EMS's products cost more, but you can see they ARE
EE> different.
I can also see that you are not accurately reporting the facts here. I know
that Night Owl 9 has files in several of the sections you state they don't.
See below....
EE> EMS SMS3 Pier2 SS2 NOwl9 Win93 SV2
EE> C/C++ 1046 98 288 216
EE> OS/2 338
EE> VBasic Windows 534 59 130
EE> Windows Utils 739 Mixed
Additionally while double checking these sections I also found that at least
one of your file counts was wrong for Night Owl 9. (only off by one but
hey... There may be a trend here...) Also more files doesn't always equal
better files.
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From: CEES HEIM Number: 4513
To: ALL Date: 09/30/93 4:47p
Subj: SUN CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Dous any body know of the existence of a driver for a SUN CD-ROM wich
i will use under DOS. It seems that these ROMS are OEM SONY. Please help !!
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From: LEVIEN VAN ZON Number: 4514
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 8:32p
Subj: ATARI SOFTWARE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
WANTED:
A CDROM disk containing ATARI ST pd/shareware.
Has somebody got this disk, or does someone know if it exists? Please
send me a mail...
-Levien (FIDOnet: 2:280/802)
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From: RICHIE REEVES Number: 4515
To: ALL Date: 10/02/93 8:04p
Subj: Phoenix 4.0 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Well, the CD that I am fixing to get for my board is Phoenix 4.0. Would
anyone happen to know what all that would happen to have on it? Just
wondering.
--- WM v3.10/92-0707
* Origin: Chuckie's Place (903) 758-0960 (1:398/7)
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From: JESS STOUT Number: 4516
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 10/01/93 10:04p
Subj: CDROM System IRQs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Boris,
About ready to buy a CDROM System and sound card. Are there any IRQ
and addresse jumpers that must be set for this type of system to
work? If so, which IRQs and addresses do they use? Thanks, Jess.
... Security, confine Ensign Osadciw to the brig.
--- Blue Wave/RA v2.12 [NR]
* Origin: The Genesis BBS Martinez, GA =706-868-9005= (1:360/12.0)
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From: RICK GRAF Number: 4517
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/28/93 7:34p
Subj: Re: Catalogs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GP> On 09-16-93, Adrian Salas said to All!
AS>***************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION ****************
AS>
AS>If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave
AS>your mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
RG> I would like one of your catalogs. Please send to:
RG> Ricky A. Graf
RG> 909 Meadowood Dr
RG> Virginia Beach, Va
RG> 23452
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From: RICK GRAF Number: 4518
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/28/93 7:40p
Subj: Re: Cd-List Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Maurice Villarreal to Neil Bergman <=-
RG> Please i'd like to receive the CD Catalog too.
RG> Send to:
RG> Ricky Graf
RG> 909 Meadowood Dr
RG> Virginia Beach, Va
RG> 23452
RG> Thanx.
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN Number: 4519
To: ALL Date: 10/02/93 1:04p
Subj: CD-ROM SOURCE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Canada's CD-ROM Source is...
CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA
6 Armstrong Bay * Regina, Sk. S4N 4G7
306-789-4654 Voice * 306-789-8690 Fax
VISA/MC/MO/Cheque Accepted
New titles weekly! Call for current specials!
--- The Mail Box [NR]
* Origin: SUPERBOARD/CD-ROM WHOLESALERS (306)789-8682 (1:140/121)
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN Number: 4520
To: ALL Date: 10/02/93 1:05p
Subj: CURRENT HITS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
**** Shareware Studio III in stock! Just $39 Canadian! ****
CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA is proud to be a part of bringing you
this excellent collection of 5100+ files (630+ Meg)... Many of the
files are from the exclusive premium Superboard collection, and
this disc uses the best, most-versatile, and easy-to-use interface
on any CD-ROM to date. No archive errors, BBS ads, known viruses,
or AV codes... .ZIP archive dates match the latest date within the
archive. Call 306-789-4654 or fax 306-789-8690 for your copy today!
** BONUS ** For $69 Canadian, receive the full set of Vol 1, 2 & 3!
--- The Mail Box [NR]
* Origin: SUPERBOARD/CD-ROM WHOLESALERS (306)789-8682 (1:140/121)
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From: STEVE GERWECK Number: 4521
To: SCOTT GOLBY Date: 10/02/93 10:47a
Subj: Busty Babes Vol II-N Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Scott Golby to Steve Gerweck <=-
SG> Which BB do you have?
SG> The first one, I think it was called Vol I, #3. I guess that
SG> means the first issue and the 3rd press run or something?
Does your BB feature Playboy GIF's?
Steve
... Redundancy: An airbag in Hillary Clintons car.
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From: DANIEL PRINCE Number: 4522
To: ALL Date: 10/02/93 6:30a
Subj: Seventh Guest problems Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
My Brother can't run the CDROM program "Seventh Guest"
on his 486DX-33 system. He thought it was because his VGA card
was too slow but he replaced his VGA card with a "Diamond
Speedstar Pro" and it still does the same thing. What happens is
that during the introduction numerals start appearing in the
upper left corner of the screen and colored blocks appear across
the screen about two thirds down from the top of the screen.
After about ten seconds of this the computer locks up. If he has
Qemm loaded, he gets an exception 13 error message. He says it
also locks up without Qemm loaded. (He doesn't use DV.) He says
that if he configures his PAS to emulate the "Adlib" card which
doesn't use DMA, the program go farther before it crashes.
Does anyone have any suggestions on how he can get this program
to run on his machine? He has already tried changing the
interrupts on his sound card and CD rom controller and running
without any TSRs etc. Thank you in advance for all replies.
... It's better to have chilly weather than con carne weather.
--- Blue Wave/Max v2.12
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From: ROY FUNG Number: 4523
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 10/03/93 12:06p
Subj: CDs' Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Boris, please send a catalog of your CDs' - incl. those for Macintosh -
(not drives) to me at:
311 Bryan Oak Ave
BRANDON
FL, 33511
Thanks, Roy.
... Wanna live to be 100? Give up things that make u want to.
--- FMail 0.96Γ
* Origin: Software Heaven (813) 653-0029 Tampa, Fl (1:377/41.0)
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 4524
To: ALL Date: 10/02/93 6:01a
Subj: $375 for Toshiba CDROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CD-ROM Mitsumi CRMC LU-005S w/contlr 630MB, 350ms, Kodak comp. $179.
CD-ROM Sony 31A with controller ...............................$229.
CD-ROM Panasonic 522B for SB Pro 380ms w/caddy.................$189.
CD-ROM Panasonic 562B 320ms w/contlr caddyless 300k/s 64kcache.$249.
CD-ROM MicroSolution Parallel port 350ms 128k cache caddyless..$369.
CD-ROM Toshiba MX3401b SCSI drive,Kodak comp.200ms, 256k cache $375.
Multimedia kit. SB Pro+Philips 205 CDROM+9 CDs+Speakers........$339.
Creative Lab Discovery 8. SR-562 CDROM+SB Pro+2CDs+Speakers....$389
Creative Lab Discovery 16.SR-562 CDROM+SB 16 +2CDs+Speakers....$469
Mitsumi CDROM+Sound Galaxy NX Pro card.........................$279
Price does not included shipping.
Call 310-602-2076 8AM-12PM, 6PM-9PM PST or mail order payable to: TRUC
16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723. Accept money order, COD $5extra
* OLX 2.1 TD * voice 310-602-2076.8am-12pm,6pm-9pm PST. Fax 310-402-7240
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 4525
To: ALL Date: 10/02/93 6:03a
Subj: CDROM titles forsale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TRUC 16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723 fax 310-402-7240
Call 310-602-2076 8am-12pm, 6pm-9pm PST ask Wee Yung.
Dictionaries and Languages......$19* Dinosaur Adventure..............$35
Desert Storm MPC/ Mac only......$29 Dr Music vol.I 5,000 sharewares.$29
D/Generation....................$19* DTP Pro FM - Wave Clip-art......$29
Elec Lib of Art v.I or v.II.....$35 Essential home & bus. sharewares$19*
Family Education Programs Collec$29 Family choice/ Britannica.......$29
Family Doctor Dos/Mac...........$29 Great Cities Vol. I or V II.....$35
Guinness Disk of Record 93 MPC..$29 Guinness Disk of Records no MPC.$19*
Games Pack II...................$25 International Bus & Econ Atlas..$29
Jones In fast Lane MPC..........$19* Jets & Props MPC 2CDs...........$29
Add $3 for shipping and handling. No exchange for difference titles.
* OLX 2.1 TD * voice 310-602-2076.8am-12pm,6pm-9pm PST. Fax 310-402-7240
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From: PAUL DELLAVALLE Number: 4526
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 8:06a
Subj: Sony 7205 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Is there another cheaper drive that will work with the 7205 drive I have
now on the same controller card? I have the external Sony lazer Libaray
and would like to and another drive even if its internal. Any help is
appreciated.
--- WM v2.02/92-0039
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From: CHRISTOPHE DELABBE Number: 4527
To: STEVE THOMPSON Date: 09/29/93 9:10p
Subj: Which CD-Drive Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> I am looking for a new cd-drive and I am looking for suggestions.
> I have £250 to spend.
> I am looking for it to plug into my Sound Blaster Pro, It must be
> standard ( Whatever that is ), I also need it to play audio sound.
you must buy a panasonic double spin cd rom cr562 B it s fully compatible with
sb pro and it works great !!!! (i ve just bought one 5 days ago and it s
smashing) there is also an uprade proposed by creative labs with the same
player called "omnicd creative labs cd rom" ,you just have to plug a cable in
your sb pro and that s all folks!!!
hope to hear from you soon!!!!!
> Any help is greatfully recieved.
> (-* Gonzo *-)
> --- GEcho 1.00
> * Origin: From the Lair of the Dragon - 0382 452149 (0:0/0)
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From: BOB NEAL Number: 4528
To: RICH RUBIN Date: 10/02/93 5:10p
Subj: Re: Encarta... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RR> Thank you for your reply about my selling my own copy of Encarta
RR>Microsoft. I am selling it for $105 but you offered $35. You
RR>that you can get this cd for a few dollars more than I'm selling it
RR> Really? Can you tell me where? I know you aren't going to answer
RR>by it. This is the way it works. Encarta is currently selling at
RR>CompUSA for $279!!! [As of yesterday 9/26/93] In the future if you
Just for your information Rich, I just read that Microsoft is planning
to release Encarta on CD for $99! According to the source, Wall Street
Journal article, Microsoft is looking to get into the entertainment and
educational software big time. The $99 is a special price that they
intend to offer through year end after which it will return to the
overpriced $395 price.
--- MsgToss 2.0b
# Origin: Electric Estates - Romeoville,IL - 1-815-886-0109 (8:7401/424)
* Origin: FamilyNet Intl. Echogate [708] 887-7685 (1:115/887)
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN Number: 4529
To: ALL Date: 09/26/93 2:11p
Subj: Technical Shareware CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Here's a brief view of technical software on recent CD-ROMs.
EMS's products cost more, but you can see they ARE different.
EMS Professional Shareware - voice:301-924-3594 Fax:301-963-2708
Free brochure/catalog will tell you more.
EMS SMS3 Pier2 SS2 NOwl9 Win93 SV2
Access 212
Assembler 400 17 15
C/C++ 1046 98 288 216
AutoCAD 876 51 45 30 34
Xbase 3146 53 83 82 502
Netware 974 58 48 42 172
ObjectVision 95
OS/2 338
Paradox 556
Sci/Eng 146 53 38 25 85
SmallBusiness 273
Spreadsheet 352 11 55 15 50 27
TrueType 752 218 112 749
TurboPascal 703 67 264 30 169
VBasic Windows 534 59 130
VBDOS/QB/PDS 234 130
Windows Utils 739 Mixed
EMS Professional Shareware, 10'93 (ships Oct.1, Dec.1, Feb.1)
SMS3 - So Much Shareware #3
SS2 - Shareware Studio #2
NOwl9 - NightOwl #9
Win93 - Windows 1993
SV2 - Software Vault #2
The categories chosen are EMS's. Each of the other CD-ROMs has LOTS
more files in other categories. They are wonderful products for PC
generalists. EMS's focus is the PC professional. If you aren't a specialist,
the other CD-ROMs are better for you. If you are a programmer, AutoCAD,
Netware, etc. professional, get the right tool for the job.
--- GEcho 1.00/beta
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From: JOHN LUNDY Number: 4530
To: STEVE GOYER Date: 10/02/93 8:21p
Subj: Oem Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SG>Can someone tell me what OEM is (or stands for)?
SG>___
Hope you like getting mail. I'm sure you'll hear a lot from this...
"Original Equipment Manufacturer"
* QMPro 1.51 * Cut my pizza in six slices, please; I can't eat eight.
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From: JOHN LUNDY Number: 4531
To: EDWARD TUSHAR Date: 10/02/93 8:22p
Subj: Thanks for the responses Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
ET>What's up All!
ET>Are there any other shareware CD's that will run under a door like Mega-Demo
ET>My BBS system does not use any other BBS's file structures. (i.e FILES.BBS)
ET>run Harmony. Thanks in advance.
The "So Much Shareware" series has it's own door setup you may want to
look into.
John
* QMPro 1.51 * Please stand by... Experiencing Tagline Difficulties
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From: MARTY ESCARCEGA Number: 4532
To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Date: 10/03/93 9:14a
Subj: Re: NO#10 $20 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Ismail, when is Night Owl's 10 scheduled to be released? I'd like a copy. Is
the cost $20?
>>> Marty <<<
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From: DWIGHT BRIMLEY Number: 4533
To: ALL Date: 10/02/93 8:44p
Subj: CD's FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I HAVE TWO CD'S FOR SALE. TOO MUCH STAREWARE (ADULT GIFS & ANIMATIONS, 500MEGS)
AND MICROSOFT WORD WITH BOOKSHELF. BOTH ARE NEW IN THE BOX. I WOULD LIKE TO GET
$25 FOR THE STAREWARE AND $100 FOR MICROSORFT WORD. LEAVE ME A MESSAGE IF YOU
ARE INTERESTED. THANKS.
--- Maximus 2.01wb
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From: DAVE CLARK Number: 4534
To: ALL USERS Date: 10/03/93 3:50a
Subj: CD-ROM Review: Shareware Explorer Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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=== CD-ROM DISC REVIEW - ARSENAL COMPUTER ===
=== P. O. BOX 5723, TOPEKA, KANSAS 66605 ===
=== VOICE (913) 234-4146 FAX (913) 234-8528 BBS (913) 234-9395 ===
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The Following is a CD-ROM "review." The opinions expressed belong
solely to Dave Clark, Sysop of Arsenal Computer BBS.
]]] TITLE: Shareware Explorer
]]] SIZE: [1] 447 Megs [2] 482 Megs [3] 523 Megs [4] 498 Megs
]]] FILES: [1] 8688 [2] 6083 [3] 5084 [4] 6996
]]] PUBLISHER: New Frontiers CD-ROMs
]]] CATEGORY: Shareware/BBS Ready
]]] DATED: 08-06-93
I approached this set wondering to myself if they had managed to break
the "multi-disc cruddiness" that I've noticed in other multi-disc
collections. By this, I mean that with one notable exception, every
multi-disc set that I've come across has been rather... annoying.
They had several problems, too many to bother with mentioning here.
The only exception was World Vision.
World Vision still holds that title in my book.
I started out by browsing the disc looking for highlights. And boy,
did I find them, in spades. But, I'll get to that later, and take
this in my normal pattern.
When attempting to install the end user interface, I was greeted by two
executable files... a GO.BAT and an INSTALL.EXE. I selected the GO.BAT
at first, and found, much to my annoyance, that it only displayed text
files. I read some of them, found some useful and a lot of totally
useless information, and went on to the INSTALL.EXE. After supplying
the data that it requested, it installed the program to my hard drive,
and I was off.
Or was I? It turns out that the install did nothing more than install
a short batchfile that referred to nothing in particular in regards to
the disc, or the interface program. Feeling that NOTHING could be
THAT dumb, I decided to have other people test the disc to see if they
could make it work, or if it really was as dumb as it looked.
I put my wife, Korene, in front of it, and offered no help. I figured
that this would be a good test, simulating someone that doesn't know
DOS as an expert and would have to use the user interface. After
several minutes of utter confusion trying to make heads or tails of
what it was doing, she ended up with the exact same results that I got.
In other words, nothing. When asked what she thought of the user
interface on the disc, her reply was short and to the point.
Unfortunately, it cannot be reprinted here.
Korene works at a local VA Hospital as a computer processing manager,
but her knowledge of DOS systems is not up to her professional
knowledge. She normally works with the voice activated systems that
she has to maintain. Luckily, my system is not voice activated, because
I'm not sure how it would have interpreted the string of "commands"
that she gave it once she was done attempting to make it work.
Ok, last chance... I turned Scott Reigle loose on it. Scott is the
SysOp of Farkem Asylum, a gaming board. Scott has configured several
hundred different BBS programs for his board, and I figured that he was
our last, greatest hope.
Well, Scott tried a different tactic, got different messages, and ended
up with the exact same results. Yeesh. Scott's reaction was, while
not quite as colorful as Korene's, quite enlightening. Something that
I cannot say about the software.
I finally got the software operational using the /nowrite option and
running it right from the CD-ROM. What greeted me was one of the
slowest CD-ROM interfaces that I've ever had the misfortune to come
across.
To say that I wasn't pleased would be an understatement.
Ok, lets go look at the BBS readiness of the disc....
The files in the discs are arranged in subdirectories named A001, A002,
A003, etc. Not terribly descriptive, but easy to configure in a BBS
door. Each subdirectory had in it a FILES.BBS in the following format:
AFFORD.ZIP [0] Annuity Calculation Program (asp).
This was the only file listing provided in the subdirectories. These
are among the most difficult to use on other systems, because of the
lack of information.
... to be continued....
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From: DAVE CLARK Number: 4535
To: ALL USERS Date: 10/03/93 3:50a
Subj: CD-ROM Review: Shareware Explorer Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
One subdirectory had in it a series of files that are supposed to help
you convert this disc to other formats. I can't speak of the
veracity of the files, but I checked for a utility to convert to
Spitfire, the BBS system that I use, and there were two Spitfire
programs, neither of which would convert anything to anything else.
One was for the creation of SFFILES.BBS from scratch, the other was for
updating the header info with how many files there were. Yup, serious
BBS support there.
The only thing useful that I found was that they had actually put in
PCBoard style listings in the \SYSOPS\PCBOARD directory. Without this,
you are going to have fun making what you need to run this title. Now,
if you *manage* to get the user interface running, it tells you that
you can output to your printer one of several different formats, only
a couple of which resembled anything that I had heard of, but after
playing with the user interface, I figured why bother printing a 500k
file listing in Nixpix format? I had no guarantee that the darned
thing would work anyway, and to be honest, I didn't really care to
find out after all the hassles that I had with that program already.
By the way, the collection of files that were placed in the
\SYSOPS\OTHERS subdirectory looked VERY much like the same
collection of files that I've seen on another BBS ready CD-ROM's
recently. Hmmm..... Oh, the original collection didn't have anything
for Spitfire either... <grin!>
Ok, now for the REALLY fun stuff... <smile!>
I thought that I had seen some really silly licensing agreements in the
past, such as the one attached to PC-SIG discs. But this one took the
ever-loving cake. I have never seen such a silly licensing agreement
in all my life. Let me quote you a few pertinent sections. I'm going
to use the "|" character to show you where I'm quoting...
From the file \INFO\BBS.TXT
| The use of The New Frontiers Shareware Explorer CD-ROMs on
| electronic bulletin board systems (BBS) is prohibited without a
| license from New Frontiers. This License Agreement is between New
| Frontiers nd the BBS operator whose signature appears at the end of
| this Agreement. In return for the limited right to use The New
| Frontiers Shareware Explorer CD-ROM the BBS Licensee agrees to the
| provisions of this License. This Agreement allows the BBS Licensee
| to use The New Frontiers Shareware Explorer CD-ROM for the period
| of one year from the date of this License.
Ok, let's see if I've figured this one out... I can't run this on my
BBS unless I print out their licensing agreement, sign it, and send
it back to them. Got that? Good, lets go on...
|5. BBS Licensee agrees not to download files and/or programs from the
| New Frontiers Shareware Explorer disc with the intent to sell the
| copy. Downloading is defined as the process of copying or
| duplicating a file from New Frontiers Shareware Explorer CD-ROM
| disc onto other media, including, but not limited to, diskettes,
| hard drives, magnetic tape or optical disc, for the intentional or
| unintentional purposes of sales, distribution or financial gain.
| The BBS Licensee cannot side-step the issue of a sale by claiming
| that they have only charged for consulting time, the cost of the
| diskette, online time, or for labor charges only.
Hold on here... no one can "sell" any file on this disc to anyone else.
Did you notice the line stating "The BBS Licensee cannot side-step the
issue of a sale by claiming that they only charged for... online time?"
Ok... what that means to *me* is that if you charge ANYTHING for access
to your board and/or the CD-ROM Files, you CANNOT use this disc on your
board!
|8. If Licensee violates any provisions of this Agreement, New Frontier
| can terminate this License and continued violations may possibly
| lead to subsequent legal action by New Frontiers, among other
| causes of action, for violation of New Frontiers License,
| registered trademark(s) and/or copyright(s).
Nice. I guess if they find that you charged $10.00 to access your
board, they not only pull your license, but they can sue you, as well.
How cute.
|9. The License fee is as follows:
|
| both CD-ROMS on his system. You need only pay once, but a separate
| license form must be completed and returned for each CD-ROM disc
| you run on-line.
|
| License fees are due and payable within 30 days of your purchase of
| this CD-ROM disc. All licenses are non-transferable.
Ok, now you have to return a copy of their licensing form for each disc,
and pay a licensing fee for the privilege of using this disc for one
year at their discretion. Oh joy. The fact that the fee is small is
not the point to me... it's the fact that not only do you have to pay
twice for this disc, but you have to sign FOUR forms, and meet every
term of their licensing agreements in order to run this disc.
... to be continued....
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From: DAVE CLARK Number: 4536
To: ALL USERS Date: 10/03/93 3:50a
Subj: CD-ROM Review: Hacker Chronicles Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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=== CD-ROM DISC REVIEW - ARSENAL COMPUTER ===
=== P. O. BOX 5723, TOPEKA, KANSAS 66605 ===
=== VOICE (913) 234-4146 FAX (913) 234-8528 BBS (913) 234-9395 ===
=======================================================================
=======================================================================
The Following is a CD-ROM "review." The opinions expressed belong
solely to Dave Clark, Sysop of Arsenal Computer BBS.
]]] TITLE: The Hacker Chronicles
]]] SIZE: 145 Megs
]]] FILES: 6394
]]] PUBLISHER: S&S Publishing
]]] CATEGORY: Information / Some Shareware/PD
]]] DATED: 02-25-93
This disc doesn't quite fit into any mold that I'm using to seeing
on the materials that I look at. The information on this disc is not
"illegal" per se, although if you were to attempt to use it, you might
find yourself in some hot water.
This disc is a collection of text files & programs dealing mostly with
the "Computer Underground" and related materials. Looking over this
disc, I found information ranging on "how to play phone pranks" (these
being about as sophisticated as "Do You Have Prince Albert in the Can?")
to hard info on telephone and credit information repositories, to a
rather interesting text written by an alleged "Ninja" (with very bad
use of the English language) on how to infect a victim with Hepatitis.
Reading through some of the material on the disc is rather fascinating.
I must admit that this disc could provide a large amount of
"entertainment" if someone was of evil intent.
This disc had a very crude BBS support built in... each directory has
a text file in it that is named "dirname.DIR" with the "dirname" being
the name of the directory. The file listings look like this, pretty
much (they don't all fit in the same pattern):
cud100a.txt cud100a.txt Moderator's Introduction
As you can see, this one will take a LOT of work to get ready for BBS
usage... assuming you are brave enough to use this online! <smile!>
As a BBS ready disc, I have to give this one a thumbs down. The
information is quite "explosive" (sometimes literally) and the BBS
listings will require a LOT of work to make usable. The disc is only
145 Megs in size, so it's nowhere near a full disc.
For the end user or Sysop interested in information for themselves,
this could be quite a find, depending on what you are looking for.
There is a lot of fascinating information here, and perhaps it would
be worth it to you to have one lying around.
Personally, I think that I'm going to snarf a couple of the directories
off of it to put in my magnetic files base.. there is some fascinating
stuff on there that could be of use, even to the totally legitimate
callers that have no interest in shady activities.
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From: DAVE CLARK Number: 4537
To: ALL USERS Date: 10/03/93 3:50a
Subj: CD-ROM Review: Lan Master Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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=== CD-ROM DISC REVIEW - ARSENAL COMPUTER ===
=== P. O. BOX 5723, TOPEKA, KANSAS 66605 ===
=== VOICE (913) 234-4146 FAX (913) 234-8528 BBS (913) 234-9395 ===
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The Following is a CD-ROM "review." The opinions expressed belong
solely to Dave Clark, Sysop of Arsenal Computer BBS.
]]] TITLE: Lan Master
]]] SIZE: 91 Megs
]]] FILES: 2255
]]] PUBLISHER: High Tech Productions
]]] CATEGORY: Local Area Networking Information
]]] DATED: 09-30-1986 (According to CHKCD Command)
The disc advertises itself as over 100 Megs of high quality Network
Utilities, patches, tech notes, multiplayer games, communications
programs and many other useful references and files. Well, as you
can see by my CHKCD readout, there is only 91 megs on the disk total,
so someone missed something somewhere....
The creation date was rather... amusing. I found files in the disc
dating 1991 and 1992, but according to all the filemarks, this disc
was made in 1986. Why was such a silly date applied to the disc?
It can do nothing but hurt it.
This disc is NOT BBS ready in the conventional sense. I did manage to
find some PCBoard style BBS listings for SOME of the files, but these
were NOT well marked, and they didn't cover a large portion of the files
on the disc. Overall, very disappointing. Of course, even if it did
have decent file listings, the 91 Meg size of the disc means that it
would be terribly inefficient to use as a BBS disc, but at least you
could use it to beef up your magnetic file section.
The disc was obviously set up for the end user market, and I found the
menu interface to be unremarkable, but at least it was functional, with
no problems detected in use. That's more than I can say for a lot
of menus... <grin!>
I was a bit underwhelmed by some of the file sections on this disc...
there was specific mention of multiplayer games on the disc, and I was
rather disappointed to find only eight games on the disc in the LAN
games section. The multitasking section had 37 files listed on it,
and it didn't have any cover space dedicated to it at all... I guess
they figured that the games, skimpy though they be, would be a greater
draw than the multitasker section.
Overall, I'm not impressed. It might service as a reference item for
some technojocks, but otherwise, I can't really recommend it. It's not
BBS ready in any meaningful fashion, and there is nothing here that you
could really want to bother with as a SysOp anyway, with the lack of
decent file descriptions on most of the files.
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From: DAVE CLARK Number: 4538
To: ALL USERS Date: 10/03/93 3:50a
Subj: CD-ROM Review: Tech Arsenal Refer: NONE
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=== CD-ROM DISC REVIEW - ARSENAL COMPUTER ===
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The Following is a CD-ROM "review." The opinions expressed belong
solely to Dave Clark, Sysop of Arsenal Computer BBS.
]]] TITLE: Tech Arsenal
]]] SIZE: 629 Megs
]]] FILES: 7441
]]] PUBLISHER: Arsenal Computer
]]] CATEGORY: Shareware/BBS Ready/End User Ready
]]] DATED: 09-03-93
No, you are not seeing things.... we here at the Arsenal really DID
publish this disc! <smile!> However, lest you think that I'm going
to be self serving here, let me emphasize one thing... I always offer
a money back guarantee on any disc that I sell, and of course, my
stuff is going to be given the same treatment... <smile!> I'm going
to give this the same going over that I do any other disc, and I'm going
to be just as frank as I would for anyone else. I don't play favorites
here.
Of course, let's face one fact... why in the h*ll would I make a disc
that I would have to trash? <SEG!> I have been looking at everyone
else's product, so I know what goes, and what doesn't, and I designed
my disc accordingly.
So, with that out of the way, here goes.
Tech Arsenal deals solely with technical subjects, such as programming
utilities and source code, Local Area Networking, dBase programming and
applications, Anti-Virus utilities, Text & Hex Editors, Caching, Testing
and Diagnostics, Drivers, Backup & Data Recovery, Computer Aided Design,
Desqview & QEMM, and even HAM radio & Scanner material is covered on
this disc.
File dates are from September 1993 to 1990 on source code (due to the
fact that, by and large, source code is "ageless") and the programs
have dates ranging from September 1993 to 1991. However, please bear
in mind that if a filedate is 1991 or 1992, then it's because no later
version was found.
Dupliacation of filenames was kept to a strict minimum. Why not
entirely gone, you might ask? Simply put, I found some duplicate
filenames in two areas, with files that had NOTHING to do with each
other, and in some cases, there were utilities that really did have
application in multiple file areas, such as a programming utility that
would be used in C/ASM, Basic, and Pascal... so it appeared in each
section, rather than making the people interested only in one section
have to go "hunting" for it in others. These files are on there
quite intentionally to make it easier to use. However, the percentage
of such files is VERY small.
BBS readiness is very apparent (go figure!). File listings are provided
in PCBoard, Spitfire, and QBBS formats, with a Database of the file
Descriptions available on the disc as well, so that you can create your
own very easily, if you so desire. All but the DBF files are available
in both the referenced file subdirectory, and in a separate file
subdirectory. The "all in one" setup allows door users (such as myself)
ease of use, while the file listings in each directory means that those
that either with to run "native" (with the disc directly accessed by the
BBS) or those with specific conversion utilities, such as TBBS SysOps,
are not left out in the cold.
The subdirectory structure is quite simple, with the files contained in
subdirectories named TEK-01 through TEK-21. The File listings are in
/FILELIST, and the information for SysOps is contained in the
subdirectory /SYSOPS. Simple enough, eh? <Grin!>
Some additonal note should be paid to the user interface on this...
in a rather "unusual" move, the user interface was not the usual
program that people have come to expect, but the EZRom Door interface,
as written by Mike Robinson. Mike's door program, run in local mode,
provides a very quick search engine and a very easy way to transfer
the files to your hard drive for use. It is easily the fastest
CD-ROM based search engine that I have seen, and I hope that the
exposure that the Shareware version of this program generates will
help Mike in getting more BBS registrations for his excellent product.
... to be continued....
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From: CLYDE FUSSELL Number: 4539
To: DALE A COOK Date: 10/03/93 9:23a
Subj: BLOKIT INOVATIONS? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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From: CROSSED WIRES FILE PATROL Number: 4540
To: ALL Date: 10/03/93 1:01a
Subj: New Files Available Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Today, Sunday 03-10-93, Crossed Wires BBS (809:919/1) received the
following files.
Area : Private Zip Files Comment : SysOp And Private
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PRIVATE.ZIP 1,403
PRIVNEW.ZIP 1,383
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2,786 bytes in 2 file(s)
Total of 2,786 in 2 file(s)
File requests are welcome 23 hrs per day, from 04:00-03:00.
FREQ FILES for an allfiles listing.
Thanks, David (Using ALLFIX v4.21/beta-7, "Simply the Best")
Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.Euripides
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 4541
To: DAVID SILVER Date: 10/03/93 10:03a
Subj: What do I Need ? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DS>I now have a 486sx/25 with a Sound Blaster. Will the CD-Rom plug into an
DS>expansion slot? I plan to get an internal (I have an empty
If price is more importance then get the new Panasonic with controller
CD-ROM Mitsumi CRMC LU-005S w/contlr 630MB, 350ms, Kodak comp. $179.
CD-ROM Sony 31A with controller ...............................$229.
CD-ROM Panasonic 522B for SB Pro 380ms w/caddy.................$189.
CD-ROM Panasonic 562B 320ms w/contlr caddyless 300k/s 64kcache.$249.
CD-ROM MicroSolution Parallel port 350ms 128k cache caddyless..$369.
CD-ROM Toshiba MX3401b SCSI drive,Kodak comp.200ms, 256k cache $375.
Magnetic Shieded Multimedia Stereo Speaker system $9
MIDI cable for any sound card with Joystick port...............$19.
Price does not included shipping.
Call 310-602-2076 8AM-12PM, 6PM-9PM PST or mail order payable to: TRUC
16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723. Accept money order, COD $5extra
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 4542
To: STEVE THOMPSON Date: 10/03/93 10:03a
Subj: Which CD-Drive Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
ST>I am looking for a new cd-drive and I am looking for suggestions.
The Panasonic would work with your Sound Blaster Pro or any CDROM
which come with controller.
CD-ROM Mitsumi CRMC LU-005S w/contlr 630MB, 350ms, Kodak comp. $179.
CD-ROM Sony 31A with controller ...............................$229.
CD-ROM Panasonic 522B for SB Pro 380ms w/caddy.................$189.
CD-ROM Panasonic 562B 320ms w/contlr caddyless 300k/s 64kcache.$249.
CD-ROM MicroSolution Parallel port 350ms 128k cache caddyless..$369.
CD-ROM Toshiba MX3401b SCSI drive,Kodak comp.200ms, 256k cache $375.
Magnetic Shieded Multimedia Stereo Speaker system $9
MIDI cable for any sound card with Joystick port...............$19.
Price does not included shipping.
Call 310-602-2076 8AM-12PM, 6PM-9PM PST or mail order payable to: TRUC
16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723. Accept money order, COD $5extra
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 4543
To: STEVE GOYER Date: 10/03/93 10:03a
Subj: Oem Refer: NONE
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SG>Can someone tell me what OEM is (or stands for)?
SG>___
Original Equipment Manufacture
It is also mean the part are Genuine equipment but sell under other
names.
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 4544
To: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Date: 10/03/93 10:03a
Subj: Panasonic CR562b Refer: NONE
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GMJ>OK, I tried, got no reply, I'll try again: Are there any
GMJ>dealers out there who can ship a <subj> to Zimbabwe, what
GMJ>are their FAX NUMBERS and do they offer any deals? I HAVE
For International customer, I can ship freight collect via United
Parcel Service. Which mean you just send bank draft with US dollars
for amount purchase. When the parts arrived, you will pay the freight
charge with UPS.
CD-ROM Panasonic 522B for SB Pro 380ms w/caddy.................$189.
CD-ROM Panasonic 562B 320ms w/contlr caddyless 300k/s 64kcache.$249.
Price does not included shipping. Fax 310-402-7240
Call 310-602-2076 8AM-12PM, 6PM-9PM PST or mail order payable to: TRUC
16429 Bixler ave.
Paramount, CA 90723. USA
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 4545
To: ERIC RICHARD Date: 10/03/93 10:03a
Subj: CD_ROM's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
ER>Hi! I'm looking for good CD_ROM disks to run for my BBS, please leave me all
ER>the info I need to purchase some cd's, thanks.
TRUC 16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723 fax 310-402-7240
Call 310-602-2076 8am-12pm, 6pm-9pm PST ask Wee Yung.
PC-SIG Sharewares 12th Edition..$29 PC-SIG sharewares games.........$19*
Secret Weapons/ Luftwaffe.......$19* Shareware April 1993............$29
So much Shareware Disk II or I..$19* Shareware overload..............$19*
Winware Volume 3................$29 What alot of Sharewares.........$19*
Add $3 for shipping and handling. No exchange for difference titles.
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From: RICHIE REEVES Number: 4546
To: DANIEL PRINCE Date: 10/03/93 8:38p
Subj: Seventh Guest problems Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Well, I have had the game also and what happened to me was it would say
some kind of error message when ever I went to solve a puzzle. It was
funny cause it would let you go through the whole house and do what you
wanted (Provided cuz you couldn't really go anywhere wothout solving
probs) but I couldn't figure out why it screwed up on me either. I have
heard alot of rumors about some of the bugs that are in it but who
knows?
Pirate
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From: SOPH PETROU Number: 4547
To: CHARLES CARTER Date: 10/02/93 9:32a
Subj: Mitsumi CD ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CC>Answering a msg of <17 Sep 93>, from Soph Petrou to All:
CC>No you can not ,we spent all last weekend trying to do this with
CC>two cards.You need a scsi card and scsi CD Rom to be able to
CC>hook the CD's in a chain.
CC>Charles
Thanx, we wasted just about the same amount of time, oh well off to SCSI we go.
SOPH...
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From: ANDREW LARMOUR Number: 4548
To: DON BOSMAN Date: 10/01/93 10:01p
Subj: Britanica Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Don,
I spoke to a Brittanica salesman a few months ago here in
Melbourne Australia, and he said "It is available on two CD-ROM's but he wasnt
sure of the price since they hadnt had much call for it..."
.
Personally, I rekon it would be a fantastic reference to have on my desk at
home...
.
Hope this helps,
Regards from The Great Southern Land...
Andrew Larmour
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From: PAUL NIEUWENHUIZE Number: 4549
To: MARCUS LEE Date: 10/01/93 4:00p
Subj: 7th Guest 100% Refer: NONE
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ML> I got 100% for video under 7th Guest using an ATI Graphics
ML> Ultra Pro 2mb vram EISA version.... about the only card I
ML> know (and own!) which isnt VLB to score 100%...
Marcus I have just installed this same card in my machine. I have had
problems trying to
run under OS/2 and had to get the Beta drvers to Install. Could you please
contact me
or leave your number for me to contact you if I could talk to you about this
card and
software.
* KWQ/2 1.2 * "640K ought to be enough for anybody." - Bill Gates, 1981
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From: LES SZABO Number: 4550
To: DYLAN GARTON Date: 10/03/93 5:19a
Subj: CD Rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
G'DAY, I reckon I'll know this week!.
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From: NEIL ATWOOD Number: 4551
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 10/03/93 6:49a
Subj: Not In Windows Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Yo Chris!
> Well, the most cost effective (ie cheap) double speed SCSI CD-ROMS I've
>
> seen are the NEC CDR-55s... 350ms access, 300Kbps tfr rate.... Caddy
> though (bummer....)... Look around in this echo for ads from some of
> the
> dealers and see what deals they offer....
> Brice'll hate me, but I'd recommend an Adaptec to control these
> suckers...
> (one note - they have REVERSE parity to anything else....)....
G'day Rowan,
Just curious, but can you clarify what you mean by reverse parity on the NEC
drives?
I have a an NEC CDR74 running off an Adaptec 1542B and do have fairly regular
hangs on th SCSI bus. I think I have parity set OK. I'm using the current APSI
driver and CDROM driver.
Would appreciate your comments.
Cheers!
<Neil><
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From: DANNY MCCLATCHEY Number: 4552
To: VICKI CRAWFORD Date: 10/01/93 10:55p
Subj: Re: cd-rom club Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Vicki Crawford to David Pomeroy <=-
VC> In a msg on <Sep 16, 1993>, David Pomeroy wrote to All:
DP> Hi! Is anyone there interested in joining a New Zealand or
DP> possibly Australasian CD-ROM users group..... I'm very tempted to
DP> set one up, as it is badly needed for us down under users.
VC> There is already one going in Australia.
VC> Details from
VC> Stephen Ranson
VC> Australian CD-ROM Club
Vicki
I think you're confusing a commercial enterprise, as is Stephen Ranson's
"Australian CD-ROM Club", with a non-profit organisation like the PC
Users Group of 'any location'. Whilst the ACC would no doubt be a good
source of CDROM information (any business worth it's salt would do no
less, and if that source is of interest to ANY, just look in the marketplace
ads at the rear of Australian Personal Computer - there must be at least
half a dozen companies specialising in the sale of CDROMs advertising there
alone), I think David Pomeroy's intent was that of a pooling of expertise
for the 'profit' of knowledge. (Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong David).
Regards,
Danny
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From: IAN BISHOP Number: 4553
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/30/93 3:54p
Subj: Q'S On These New Panason Refer: NONE
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RE>> 300Kbps. Poe Lim says he has seen spex for a CR533 (caddy drive) that
RE>> goes to 330Kbps...
The Specs I have for the CR533 are :
Internal SCSI-2 CD Reader
Interface, Manuals & Device Drivers
Caddy, Controller, 290ms Access
306kb/s data transfer rate, 128/256k buffer
XA ready, Auto Eject, Kodac Photo CD
Double Velocity.
In short, it seems to be the double speed variety of the CR532 (153kb/s)
Best Regards, Ian Bishop
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From: IAN BISHOP Number: 4554
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 10/01/93 9:39p
Subj: Panasonic Cd No More Refer: NONE
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CD>>Oh, I know who they are OK. The reason I found out they were no longer in
CD>>the business was due to my calling the Panasonic USA headquarters in New
CD>>Jersey to request literature. Today I confirmed what I was told on
CD>>Tuesday: Matsushita will no longer manufacture CD-ROM drives for sale
CD>>under the Panasonic brand name. They will only be manufacturing drives
CD>>under OEM contract for *other* companies. The Panasonic CD-ROM brand is
CD>>dead. Remaining units in the market are leftovers or are filtering in from
CD>>Singapore.
What do you think about this lot Rowan? Seems as though the market may
have been given a hell of a bump all of a sudden. I di notice that at
the Queenland Computer Expo today that no Panasonic CD-ROM on the
Panasonic stand. The only drives resembling the panasonic were in Full
MM kits. I just wonder what will happen to the support for all those
users with (theoretically) orphaned 562s?
Regards, Ian
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From: CHRIS PASCOE Number: 4555
To: ALL Date: 10/01/93 3:33p
Subj: pro audiospectrum 16 Refer: NONE
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G'day everyone out there!
Has anyone had a problem with the Media Vision Pro Audio
Spectrum 16 when trying to assign a 16 bit DMA channel (i.e.
4, 5 or 6)?
I recently purchased one of these so as to use the 16 bit DMA
but its installation program locks up the computer, beeps the
speaker and throws garbage to the screen when you ask it to
test any of 4, 5 or 6.
It's been tried in 2 different computers, with and without any
device drivers loaded but to no avail. The only other cards
in the systems (486dx33 and 386dx40) are their video cards and
IDE multifunction...
Do you think its somehow a faulty PAS board?
Please help!!!
Chris
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From: MICHAEL COOPER Number: 4556
To: RAY DYER Date: 10/03/93 11:01a
Subj: Cd Rom Scratches Refer: NONE
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RAY DYER said to ALL on 09-21-93 about CD ROM SCRATCHES
RD> Is there a way to repair small tiny scratches on a CD that is
RD>caused by even a lint-free, soft cloth that was used to remove dust
RD>from even before first use?
RD>
RD>Reason is that the CD ROM works just fine until certain areas of the
RD>disk are hit.
RD>......
RD>I have a Mitsumi drive (005s) and other CD Roms that used to work now
RD>suddenly don't. The scratched are seen to travel from the centre to t
RD>edge and therefore should not pose a problem.
Hi Ray,
Bad news I'm afraid! The problem will be the laser diode. These can
weaken with age, the cheaper one's are worse than the rest. This
problem is also common with audio CD players. Depending on the brand,
the diodes will last from 2 years to about 8 years. I had an early
model Sony Discman I bought in 1985, it ran beautifully for years and
had very heavy use. Around 1 year ago it started to get skittish about
some CD's. One's that played OK for years started acting up! I took it
for service and that's what they told me. It was almost cheaper to buy
an new one than get it repaired, so I bought a new one.
As the beam from the diode weakens from age the servo mechanisms cannot
track properly, hence the failure. If your Mitsumi is a couple of years
old, then probably this will be the problem. If under warranty, should
get it fixed. If you have the money, get a new drive.
Regards,
Mike, Sydney, OZ
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From: DEAN MACKIN Number: 4557
To: TARQUINN WATSON Date: 10/02/93 1:57p
Subj: Pioneer 6 pack Refer: NONE
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TW>What do you mean over here? I live in Sydney too! :) Yes it makes you
TW>chringe when you see how much the DRM's sell for in the states. When
TW>you have that working, you can them turn your attention towards a
TW>100 disks changer, or purhaps a 240 disks changer! I have details on
TW>the NSM 100 cd changer if your interested. I'm using Novell.
Yeah I realised that you too lived here AFTER I recognised your name. I
couldn't be bother retyping the message though *8-(
Would be VERY interested in some info on the BIG changers dude. BTW: That
PAUSE thing is Multitasking related. I threw the drm on a network sever 486/25
and it STILL did the 1-2 second disk change lockupss. Argggghhh!!!
Any please get back to me re those larger ones.
╔══════════════════╗
║Regards -= Dino =-║
╚══════════════════╝
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* Origin: 500cc F1 BBS: 8 Gigs, 10 V32b Lines, (02) 550-4317 (3:712/218)
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From: TONY SAUNDERS Number: 4558
To: MARK WOMACK Date: 10/02/93 7:43p
Subj: Space Quest 4 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MW> Can someone help me get un-stuck in this game? I've been stuck at
MW> the same place for 3 weeks now. I'm at the manhole and see the
MW> transport landing. Anwhere I go from here I get killed right away.
MW> I don't even have time to think. I have several items in my
MW> inventory but they don't help a bit. This is so very frustrating!
Hi Mark,
Here are some some hints from a SQ4 solution up to the manhole bit.
On Xenon
Problem:
What do I do with pink rabbit?
Hint:
You need to snare the hare -- you'll need his battery later.
You'll find a rope one screen east of the starting screen. Pick
it up and walk between the two large red columns in the upper
right side of the screen. Choose the rope from the inventory
window, and click the ROPE icon on the ground to use it. When
the bunny walks into the noose, click the HAND on the rope to
catch him.
Problem:
What do I do with the skimmer?
Hint:
Search the glove box and pick up the Pocket Pal terminal!.
Problem:
What should I do with the tank and the unstable ordnance?
Hint:
Nothing,leave it alone.
Problem:
How do I avoid the cyborg and the Security Droid?
Hint:
Just stay out of his way, and he'll leave you alone. If he gets near
you, he'll alert the Security Droid. There's no escape from the Droid.
Problem:
Where else can I go?
Hint:
If you have been everywhere enter the Sewer Grate.
In the Sewers
Problem:
What do I need from the Sanitation office?
Hint:
Look under Desk Blotter and collect Empty Jar.
Problem:
What should I do in the sewer?
Hint:
If you took the jar from the Sanitation office, use it to scoop
up some of the green slime. Choose the jar from the inventory
window, and walk around the sewer until the slime oozes out of
one of the grates. Quickly click the JAR icon on the slime, then
get away fast!
Problem:
How do I get out of the sewer?
Hint:
There's a ladder halfway down the west side of the sewer. Click
the hand on it to climb up. When you're looking out at the
street from under the manhole cover, wait for the spaceship to
land and the Sequel Police to disperse before clicking the WALK
icon on the street to exit your hiding place.
Problem:
What about this spaceship?
Hint:
The spaceship is the Sequel Police shuttle to and from the dome.
If you're quick, you can sneak aboard and get a ride up there.
Wait in the manhole until the Sequel Police disperse, then walk
to the ship. Click the HAND icon on the open area just below the
leg of the ship to get inside the landing gear compartment.
MW> I'm really beginning to hate Sierra games because of this. Getting
MW> killed every 3 minutes does not make a game any more fun - it just
MW> makes it more of a hassle to play.
I certainly agree with you on that one.Maybe Sierra should look at
LucasArts games like Monkey Island II where it is almost impossible
to get killed.If Space Quest 4 had not been such a good game I
probably would not have continued to play it.
Hope this helps.
See ya.
Tony.
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* Origin: The Engineering Connection +61-2-524 1584 (3:712/613)
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 4559
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 10/02/93 8:05p
Subj: CD-ROM GAMES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Well Henry, I love you tagline and Day of the Tentacle is the second version of
the Maniac Mansion game, it comes in both CD-ROM and regular disk version, but
the CD-ROM version has the original Maniac Mansion game as an arcade game which
you can play, so its like a game inside a game, well anyway LucasArts makes it
and all the people that have it say its really funny, and besides the box looks
funny too, well the price is about $40 and well I don't know if I wanna buy
that game, anyway I am real happy that I just got a GUS card and installed it
and actually right now, I just finished installing the card and the software
for it and tested it out too, man I am really gonna like this one, well TTYL.
Ashwin
--- GEcho 1.00/beta+
* Origin: Computer Castle Multi-Line, (603)382-3471 (1:324/127)
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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM Number: 4560
To: ALL Date: 10/02/93 2:15a
Subj: Another bbs joins the fra Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
@SUBJECT:Another BBS joins the fray N Hi, just
a short note to let everyone know that PandA's Den BBS is now echoing this
conference. (508) 750-0250, call anytime!
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* Origin: PandA's Den BBS (508) 750-0250 (1:330/204)
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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM Number: 4561
To: DON SHORTRIDGE Date: 10/03/93 2:42a
Subj: Bbs listing Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Whould please add a new BBS to your list? Name: SECURE BACKUPS Phone
-> Number:
-> (904)455-2181 SYSOP: Guy Winfrey Runs At: 14400 Location: Pensacola,
-> FL
Well, since you posted this message To: SYSOP, and sent it out through
echomail, I'm quite sure every SYSOP in the world has read it. ;-) I'll add his
BBS to my list............... pat
--- Squish v1.01
* Origin: PandA's Den BBS (508) 750-0250 (1:330/204)
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 4562
To: HAROLD BINGHAM Date: 10/03/93 2:16p
Subj: MITSUMI # CRMC Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SUre man, you can hook up the CD-ROM to any 16 bit card and get real
good music, I just
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* Origin: Hawk's Nest BBS Methuen, Ma. (508) 688-1979(1:324/123)
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From: CEES HEIM Number: 4563
To: ALL Date: 10/01/93 2:49p
Subj: SUN CDROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for a DOS Driver for a SUN Sparcstation external CD-ROM,
it seems to be a SONY OEM product. Is there any body out there who has
experiece with these drives running in a DOS environment????
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* Origin: MAXINE BBS (+31)-58-132595, 24 h/d (2:282/317.0)
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From: JOHN RACKLEY Number: 4564
To: GLENN LOFTUS Date: 10/02/93 11:25p
Subj: Re: AMIGA CD ROM.. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE: CD-32 module for the Amiga 1200.
The question is - since the CD-32 essentially IS an Amiga 1200 on the inside,
what is the CD-32 add-on going to consist of other than the CD-ROM drive
itself?
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* Origin: ArcticNet - Steilacoom, Wa (206) 565-9740 (Opus 1:138/34)
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From: SCOTT SANDERS Number: 4565
To: STEVE GOYER Date: 10/03/93 8:50p
Subj: Oem Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
[reply to: Steve Goyer(1:359/200) -> All()]
SG> Can someone tell me what OEM is (or stands for)?
Other equipment manufacturer. It means that they really
didn't write the software, but got the license to use the code
from another author.
-[ scott ]-
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* Origin: iNsaNiTY.. [HST/DS] (1:3815/101)
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From: DEBBIE MARANTZ Number: 4566
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 10/03/93 2:20a
Subj: Just Some File Stuff Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I logged on to Creative's BBS and while I was just touring around a thought
came to me, this is a Global Echo and here on this side of the pond we do take
the tech support for granted, so posted here are the lastest file listings from
Creative's BBS for SB and CD Rom support.
Creative Labs File Libraries Creative Labs, Inc.
Technical Support BBS
Windows 3.1 Drivers File Area
SBW31.EXE 38342 SB v1.5/2.0 Windows v3.1 Drivers (09-16-93)
SBP2W31.EXE 57155 SBPro 2 Windows v3.1 Drivers (09-18-93)
SBPW31M.EXE 71239 SBPro MCV Windows v3.1 Drivers (09-16-93)
MicroChannel Version - for IBM PS/2's
SBW31M.EXE 28228 SB MCV Windows v3.1 Drivers (09-16-93)
MicroChannel Version - for IBM PS/2's
SBUPDATE.EXE 417722 Updated Windows v3.1 Drivers and software (09-19-93)
for the SB Pro I (CT-1330), SB16, and
SB16 Advanced Signal Processing.
JUKEBOX.EXE 10544 Updated MMJBOX.EXE (Creative Jukebox) (09-16-93)
SoundBlaster File Area
TESTSBC.EXE 33888 Fixed test-sbc.exe for 486/50's (09-16-93)
SoundBlaster Pro File Area
TESTSBP.EXE 38823 Fixed TEST-SBP.EXE for 486-50's (09-16-93)
For use with the SBP Model CT-1330 Only!!
TSTSBP2.EXE 48167 Fixed TESTSBP2.EXE for 486-50's (09-16-93)
For use with the SBP Model CT-1600 Only!!
VEDIT-2.EXE 163958 Updated VEDIT2 - For SB Pro Only (09-16-93)
PROORG.EXE 32761 Fixed Pro-org.exe for 486/50's (09-16-93)
SBRST110.EXE 10282 SB Pro Mixer Reset Utility (09-16-93)
SBPSET.EXE 10732 Updated SBP-SET.EXE (09-16-93)
SBPW31.EXE 46740 SoundBlaster Pro Windows v3.1 Drivers (09-18-93)
For the SBPro Model CT-1330
SBP2W31.EXE 57155 SoundBlaster Pro II Windows v3.1 Drivers (09-18-93)
For the SBPro Model CT-1600
SoundBlaster 16 File Area
SBMPU401.EXE 12552 Fix for MPU-401 support on the SB16 (09-16-93)
for certain games and MIDI sequencing packages
SB16W31.EXE 57965 Windows v3.1 Drivers for the SoundBlaster 16 (09-18-93)
SoundBlaster MCV/Pro MCV File Area
@5103.ADF 1104 Updated ADF file for SB Pro MCV (04-12-93)
@5084.ADF 1279 .ADF file for SoundBlaster MCV (10-01-92)
CD-ROM File Area
SBPCD-XA.EXE 11984 CD-ROM Driver with PhotoCD Support (09-16-93)
For Creative Labs/Panasonic CD-ROM
Drives - Models: SCD-52x/53x
SBCD.EXE 51797 MS-DOS CD-ROM Driver - CR-563 (09-16-93)
Also includes updated QCD.EXE
(Win 3.1 Audio CD Player)
MSCD221.EXE 19712 Microsoft MS-DOS CD-ROM Extensions v2.21 (09-16-93)
Thank you for choosing Creative Labs for your Multimedia needs!
So there you have it, for some it may give some insight in what to look for to
solve a problem or a much needed update.
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From: DEBBIE MARANTZ Number: 4567
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 10/03/93 2:38a
Subj: IDE / CD Rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Interesting your comments on a IDE interface for CD, I suggest you look to PC
Magazine volume 12, number 16, page 95 (Inside Track), the paragraph... IDE is
King. Long Live ATA Dept. Also, GateWay will shortly introduce an IDE/CD Rom so
one should "never say never" now should one.
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 4568
To: JEFF WORERTZ Date: 10/03/93 9:21p
Subj: CD Player/Lost Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Jeff!
Well haven't heard from you in a few days, hope you are getting my messages!
Cd player never showed up, will check with my bank in the morning to see if the
check cleared. Could you please let me know what is up? I hope it is just a mix
up in the mail but I am starting to worry.
Take care
Pat
--- GoldED 2.40
* Origin: Thin Ice BBS * Corpus Christi, Texas (1:160/9)
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From: BRIAN CURNOW Number: 4569
To: KEN HARVEY Date: 10/02/93 1:06p
Subj: Re: 7th Guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BC> just wait for DOS 6.2 and the CD caching SmartDrv....;)
KH>
KH> Actually to Cache a CD more and more seems pointless as it would make the
KH> cache all the more inefficient for the purpose it was designed. A cache is
KH> designed to store frequently used data and prevent the Hard Drive from
KH> accessing the drive as much. Normally in Dos and on a Hard Drive this can
KH> accomodated rather well and keep the hit/miss ratio quite nicely. If you
KH> started loading it up with megabytes of CD info when you go back to the HD
KH> must start again. Only way I can see it as being efficient (and maybe Mr.
KH> Gates will do this) is make separate caches like they do now (in Windows an
KH> in DOS) in different sizes. Then it would be a boon. A little off topic b
KH> I still think it fits with the discussion of CD-ROMS.
They did a good job of it in NT....We'll see how well SmartDrv does...They
should get some of those NT guys to tell how it's done!
--- GEcho 1.00
* Origin: ON-LINE BBS (209)736-0385 -- Altaville, CA (1:208/504)
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From: BRIAN CURNOW Number: 4570
To: JOHN DAGES Date: 10/02/93 1:10p
Subj: Re: DAY OF THE TENTACLE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JD> HELLO! I bought an excellent CD game called the Day Of The Tentacle, it's
JD> incredible game but rather short. Over 100,000
JD> thousand pages of digitized speech. Give me a call, (419) 991-2761
JD> thanks!
I have the game and there is nowhere near 100,000 pages of speech...There are
4,000 lines...It says so the box...Figuring even 1 line per page, that's only
4,000 pages....There's easily 20 lines per page....So I'd say there's 200
pages of dialog...
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* Origin: ON-LINE BBS (209)736-0385 -- Altaville, CA (1:208/504)
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From: COREY BICCUM Number: 4571
To: WALTER CHISENSKI Date: 10/02/93 12:24p
Subj: Re: 7th guest? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Yeah, I got 7th guest to work now, I had to use qemm 7.0 to load everything up
there, and now I have 649k to play with. The problem now Is that I think It's
going a bit slow, cause qemm uses my video cards memeory.. 1 meg..
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* Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070)
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From: COREY BICCUM Number: 4572
To: WALTER CHISENSKI Date: 10/02/93 12:26p
Subj: Re: terminate and cdroms? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Yo Walter, yeah, I got my cd player in terminate to run. It works quit
smoothly, yes I did get that exe file with my cdrom too..
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From: COREY BICCUM Number: 4573
To: ALL Date: 10/02/93 12:29p
Subj: JUTLAND???? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey, baught this game the other day, and I can't seem to get it to work, I
returned one copy, and am having the same problem with the new one I got. It
just freezes on the main screen. Or after it freezes and I run it again, I get
"CDR101: Not ready reading drive E: " What does this mean? My drive is
working good with other software... the other error I get is something about
"????????.exe not installed" what is the problem there? arg I'm getting mad..
someone please help?
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* Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070)
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From: FERDINAND MATARAGNON Number: 4574
To: ALL Date: 10/03/93 12:09p
Subj: Does SB have scsi? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi all! I would like to know if CL has released Sound Blasters with an scsi
interface. I've heard of people saying it was already out but I don't know if
it is rumor or fact. Also, I'm thinking of getting a Panasonic 562 or 563 cdrom
drive to plug in to a SBPro. Would that setup work with os/2? How about the new
CL Discovery 16 kit? The one that has the new omni cd (300ms, 300k/s) ... and
SBPro 16. Does that kit work with os/2? I think, generally, if this stuff runs
well in os/2, it would run in DOS and Windows.
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* Origin: The Corner Store (604)464-0231 -14.4K- (1:153/255)
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From: BOB JENKINS Number: 4575
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 10/03/93 9:13a
Subj: Cd's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
J
JL>Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective I $22.00
JL>Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective II $48.00
JL>Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective III $52.00
JL>
JL>Computer Works Jim...
JL>CD-Rom Sales!
JL>(205) 793-4481 Voice Download CATALOG1.ZIP for our complete list.
JL>(205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card & COD Orders
JL>
Thanks Jim. Do these prices include P.H.?
I have a price of $15 + $5 from another dealer (Florida), but have not
seen or heard from him on this echo in quite a while...
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* Origin: Lester's Hideaway, Smiths Falls, ON (1:256/202@FIDONET.ORG)
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From: BOB JENKINS Number: 4576
To: PAT RICKERSON Date: 10/03/93 9:13a
Subj: CD's\For Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PR>Hello All!
PR>
PR>Microsoft Small Business Consultant & Micresoft Stat Pack
PR>Microsoft Bookshelf Dos Version
PR>These two cd's aren't doing me any good but thought maybe some one may
PR>trade me for them, will sell them if you perfer.
PR>512-939-9822
Hi Pat. Could you give me a price on Microsoft Bookshelf ? Thanks.
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■ WinQwk 2.0b#0 ■ Unregistered Evaluation Copy
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From: CORKY CORCORAN Number: 4577
To: HAROLD BINGHAM Date: 10/02/93 1:13p
Subj: Re: mitsumi # crmc Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoted Harold Bingham to All about Mitsumi # crmc on 09-27-93 16:38 <=-
HB> With the Mitsumi CD-ROM model:crmc I have an 8 bit card and
HB> get bad performance with it . Can I use it on the SB16?
Not unless you get the special Sound Blaster interface from Creative Labs.
Signed,
Virtual Humanity
... "Mr. Worf, fire phasers at Harold" ... Zzzzzap!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.10
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From: DONNIE RAYNOR Number: 4578
To: ERNEST PRESSLEY Date: 10/03/93 2:38p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi CD-DRIVE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Ernest Pressley to Donnie Raynor <=-
EP> Will the Mitsumi drive controller handle more than one drive on it or
EP> do i have to keep buying controllers each time I add a Cd-rom!!
EP> Ernest
Ernest to my knowledge you would need a controller for each drive unless
you use a SCSI drive, which allows you to daisy chain drives. But you may
check with someone else, I am not certain.
... Catch the Blue Wave!
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* Origin: Jail House Blues(804)737-3180 Ra 2.00/Pro+ / Gecho 1.01+
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From: DONNIE RAYNOR Number: 4579
To: PAT RICKERSON Date: 10/03/93 3:13p
Subj: CD-Rom For Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Pat I still have that Mitsumi if your interested. Leave message or call
1-804-744-3480.
... The last thing I saw was this Big Blue Wave!
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* Origin: Jail House Blues(804)737-3180 Ra 2.00/Pro+ / Gecho 1.01+
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From: LEE NOGA Number: 4580
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 10/03/93 11:48a
Subj: Re: XXX CD'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message to Tony Stott <09-30-93 17:15> Brice Fleckenstein wrote:
BF>> >BF> Also, the picture quality is often directly comparable to
BF>> magazine
BF>> >BF>pictures....
BF>> Used to be the case, but growing less so....
BINGO ! You are 100% correct--Most publishers are dealing in 35mm slides now!
Thanks for helping us put the 'Old' days behind us :)
-=*>Lee<*=-
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* Origin: Queen Of Hearts BBS, Deltona FL (904)789-6843 (1:3618/23)
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From: EUSTACE DUFFUS Number: 4581
To: P P P P P Date: 10/02/93 1:14a
Subj: Re: Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting P P P P P to Eustace Duffus <=-
PPPP> --- Opus-CBCS 1.73a
PPPP> ! Origin: ALTAIR (1:130/72.0)
Hi PPPP, thanks for the infomation.
--eustace_duffus@f106.n6256.z1.fidonet.org
... ..the way to the caribbean.. try Jamaica..no problem man..
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
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From: COREY BICCUM Number: 4582
To: ALL Date: 10/04/93 5:53a
Subj: eric the unready? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone know anything about the cdrom version of this game?
1: Is there speach in it?
2: Is it ALOT different than the disk version?
good price on it?
thanx
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* Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070)
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From: EDDIE MAYO Number: 4583
To: COREY BICCUM Date: 10/03/93 7:31p
Subj: day of the Tentacle? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Hey, I was wondering if anyone has played the cd version of the day o
-> tentaclte? Would they recomend purchasing this game? Is it funny? H
-> one fill me in, looking to buy it next week if I hear it's good. What
-> order price for it right now?
->
I found it good. It is funny, hard, easy....I think it would be a
good purchase.
As for price on mail order....I have no idea what it is now.
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* Origin: On-Line Entertainment BBS (407-992-2379) (1:3609/8.0)
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From: JOHN TOWERY Number: 4584
To: ERIC RICHARD Date: 10/03/93 11:28p
Subj: CD_ROM's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
===========================================================================
BBS: Warp Drive BBS
Date: 10-02-93 (10:15) Number: 764
From: ERIC RICHARD Refer#: NONE
To: ALL Recvd: NO
Subj: CD_ROM's Conf: (205) CDROM
ER>Hi! I'm looking for good CD_ROM disks to run for my BBS, please leave me all
ER>the info I need to purchase some cd's, thanks.
ER> Eric Richard
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ER> * Origin: DomTech OS/2 BBS, Aylmer PQ (819)682-5400 HST/DS (1:243/6)
Hey Ericthebest one that i have found is the megadoor cd's they are easy
to set up and can be run as a dorr real nice program. There number is
1-800-843-7990.
-John
* OLX 2.1 TD * Your brain: ───────────, you brain on UNIX: )**&%^$^%$#&#
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* Origin: Warp Drive BBS #1-803-967-4127 Simpsonville S.C. (1:3639/34.0)
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From: PETER LASNE Number: 4585
To: JOHN RACKLEY Date: 10/03/93 9:53p
Subj: Re: AMIGA CD ROM.. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Your right, I think (don't quote me on this - I haven't used or even seen many
IBMs with SCSI) the IBM has to have a HOST SCSI adaptor. The only time I have
personally used this type of networking was AMIGA to AMIGA. The article that I
read recently though used the example of IBM to AMIGA -> I know it works, but
there are 2 different types of IBM SCSI interfaces Master and Channel, I really
don't know much about them b/c they are so different from the Amiga, but maybe
someone else can spread some light on the subject.
Any takers?
Peter Lasne
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* Origin: The Fantasy Source BBS! (1:3639/7)
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From: BILL DENNISON Number: 4586
To: STEVE GOYER Date: 10/03/93 5:08p
Subj: Oem Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Can someone tell me what OEM is (or stands for)?
Steve,
OEM stands for Original Equipment Manufacturer, used when companies
make a product for someone else to sell also. (ie Panasonic makes CD
ROM drives to sell, and also gives that model to Creative Labs (and
others) to sell under their own name, even though Panasonic is a
separate company from Creative Labs.) With OEM equipment, often times
you'd have to call the company you bought the whole package from. (so
you'd have to call Creative for tech support on that Panasonic drive)
Bill
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From: ROBERTO REYES Number: 4587
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 10/02/93 8:44p
Subj: Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
Please add my name to send me your catalog
Roberto A. Reyes
14422 Industry Ave. Suite 7-54
Laredo, Tx. 78041
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From: RALPH BANE Number: 4588
To: ALL Date: 10/03/93 11:10p
Subj: mmm Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
OK, I have a question for you all. What kind of windows media player will
play .mmm files? I just got the Dinasaurs cd and when I run it, I get an
error saying that some kind of media player cannot be opened and the mplayer
under windows does not recognize .mmm files?????? So now the cd dosen't run
except to go in with the file manager and view some .avi files and hear some
.wav files
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From: DAVE DOUMANI Number: 4589
To: DAVID SILVER Date: 10/03/93 11:03a
Subj: What do I Need ? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* In a message originally to All, David Silver said:
DS> I am looking into getting a CD-ROM sometime in the near
DS> future. What will I need as far as system hardware to get
DS> the most out of a CD-ROM?
DS> I now have a 486sx/25 with a Sound Blaster. Will the CD-Rom
DS> plug into an
DS> expansion slot? I plan to get an internal (I have an empty
DS> space in front of my computer for one)
DS> Also, Any advice on what is good? I don't want to go
DS> overboard on price, however.
DS> Thanks,
DS> David
I am selling an internal MITSUMI wqith controller card for 150.... If
interrsted leave me a # to call you at.....
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 4590
To: KERRY ARCHER Date: 10/03/93 2:10p
Subj: 7th Guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
WEll Kerry I don't know what to say, actually now after upgrading my SB 2.0 to
GUS I got a lot of problems, the digitized sound get cut off and the music
doesn't sound the same anymore and infact the game hung up on me, I gotta real
good around with my GUS. You might wanna write to someone else who might use
the same drive as yours or something since I use a Mitsumi, thus I can't really
help you, sorry, TTYL.
Ashwin
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 4591
To: RONALD LEON Date: 09/29/93 9:33p
Subj: Oklahoma BBS Bust Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RL>It's about time this SMUT got cleaned up! Now, who can give me the best
>price on Asian ladies and Busty babes??
How does $29 a piece sound. Give us a call if interested.
All of my adult discs are $29 in a closeout sale.
Computer Works Jim...
CD-Rom Sales!
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card & COD Orders
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 4592
To: STEWART ROTHMAN Date: 10/02/93 6:21p
Subj: Giga Games Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SR>Thanx for your call yesterday, I'm looking forward to your catalog.
>On the above disc, GIGA GAMES, is it commercial or shareware??
>And do you take Visa-MC???
Hi Stewart. Glad to talk to you again. GigaGames is a shareware CD-Rom
from Walnut Creek. I had it online my BBS for a while. Gameware
Collection and Night Owl Games are similar to it. The Night Owl Games
CD-Rom is brand new. I haven't seen it yet, but it is on the way. Yes,
I do take Visa & Mastercard. I'll ttyl.
Computer Works Jim...
CD-Rom Sales!
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card & COD Orders
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 4593
To: DEAN DROLET Date: 10/02/93 7:58a
Subj: Mitsumi Problems Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DD>We have run into a problem on booting the computer with a CD in the
DD>drive at boot up time...if the drive is empty the problem goes away...We
DD>had the same symptoms before like you described but fixed it by making
DD>sure that the drive is empty.
I've got the same problem here! Doesn't do it ALL the time, but enough
to get frustrated with it! Haven't had it do it with music CD's yet...
* OLX 2.1 TD * CD-ROM to other: What kind of car is that? It's a CADDY!
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From: JOHN COLEMAN Number: 4594
To: ALL Date: 10/03/93 8:42p
Subj: testing 1 2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Testing to see if we are cconnected yet!!!
The System BBS Redwood City Ca. 415/365-1246
Vbbs 6.10 Fido 143/222 VirtualNet 1415005 2 Gig on-line !!
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From: PAUL SWIDER Number: 4595
To: ROBERT FROST Date: 10/04/93 8:15a
Subj: Unknown NightowlCD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 10-02-93 Robert Frost wrote to Everyone...
RF> I was wondering if anyone could help me, with this CD i've got. It
RF> says
RF> Night Owl's , instead of just nightowl.Is this an
RF> imitation, or just a mistake?
RF> The CD was made in 1990 and it's number is PDSI-002-1.
Robert, The NIGHT OWL'S name changed to NIGHT OWL after #7. What you
have is an original NIGHT OWL('S). It is NO2 first revision. My NO2 is
green and black coloring yours should be the same. >Paul<
... OFFLINE 1.50 "Everyone complains of his memory, no one of his judgment."
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From: ROB LIBRIZZI Number: 4596
To: RUSSELL HARDIE Date: 10/03/93 7:29a
Subj: DR. CD-ROM SERIES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RUSSEL
YOU STATE THAT THE DR. GAMES CD HAS "VIRTUALLY NO GAMES" !!!
WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THIS AND IF THERE ARE NO GAMES WHAT EXACTLY IS ON THE DR.
GAMES CD ???
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From: ED JUNE Number: 4597
To: ALL Date: 10/03/93 3:59p
Subj: MS `93 BookShelf & WIN/OS2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
--> Note:
Copied (from: OS2CDROM) by Ed June using timEd.
I have an adaptec 1542C and a Toshiba XM3201B cd drive.
The above has worked with everything, except:
The '93 version of MS BookShelf
Has ANYONE gotten this to work in WIN/OS2?
How 'bout dos/windows?
Anyone have a dos driver for the above cd?
Ed June
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| ||__ / __| - [ The Operating System of choice! ] -
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/
Fidonet: SysOp, 1:133/308, Atlanta's OS/2 Users Group BBS/FAX, 404-471-1549
Internet: buggz@buggz.via.mind.org
UUCP: ...!emory!uumind!buggz!buggz
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4598
To: ALL Date: 10/04/93 12:03a
Subj: PIER 3 NOW SHIPPING! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
| Title: PIER 3 Price: $39 |
* 628mb total * Separate <ASP> directory. * 100% files dated 1993
* All files virus-scanned * FILES.BBS Support * < 1% dupes to 1 & 2
* Most current files on the market. Over 98% dated AFTER 4/93!
2-CD SET: Pier 2 and 3...................(less than 1% dupes!)....$59
3-CD SET: Pier 1, 2, and 3...............(less than 1% dupes!)....$75
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)
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* SLMR 2.1a * I'm leaving my body to science fiction...
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4599
To: ALL Date: 10/04/93 12:03a
Subj: PROGRAMMER'S MEGAPACK $29 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
| Starvector Sales Bulletin #6: HOT CD-ROM! |
| Title: PROGRAMMER'S MEGAPACK Price: $29 |
* Source code for DOS, Windows, OS/2, Mac, Unix, and GNU
* Working demos of the products most needed by programmers
* 1000's of programmer's tools and utilities * BBS-Ready
* Covers all major languages: Basic, C, C++, Pascal, Fortran, + more!
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)
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* SLMR 2.1a * In my opinion, your opinion stinks. Any opinion on that?
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From: KEVIN MARTIN Number: 4600
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 10/04/93 5:45p
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On Oct 04 03:10, Boris Osadciw of 1:124/5125 wrote:
BO> Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SCSI
Phillips sells gasoline or Milk of Magnesia. Philips, is the company
that sells electronics.
Regards,
Kevin
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From: JOHN LUNDY Number: 4601
To: DANIEL PRINCE Date: 10/04/93 4:59p
Subj: Seventh Guest problems Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DP>My Brother can't run the CDROM program "Seventh Guest"
DP>on his 486DX-33 system. He thought it was because his VGA card
I had the same type problem until I took the stealth option out of my
qemm command line. I don't know if he's running stealth but you might
check it out.
John
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From: SAM BECKWITH Number: 4602
To: ALL Date: 10/04/93 7:52p
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DFW Discount Electronics 10/04/93 Orders: 800-829-0331
BBS : 214-259-4188 Local : 214-254-0331
* = Indicates file listing available for download via our BBS
MONSTER MEDIA (9/93, BBS Ready)...........................$26.00
NIGHT OWL 10 (10/93, BBS Ready)...........................$32.00
NIGHT OWL GAMES (10/93, BBS Ready)........................$21.00
* NIGHT OWL GRAPHICS (8/93, BBS Ready)......................$25.00
* SHAREWARE EXPLORER (8/93, BBS Ready): 3 DOS CDs & 1 Win...$39.00
* SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3 (7/93, BBS Ready).....................$23.00
* SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD (9/93, BBS Ready).....................$23.00
■ CmpQwk #UNREG■ UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY
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From: PAUL PERHACS Number: 4603
To: DEAN BUXTON Date: 10/04/93 6:42a
Subj: CD capacity Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Hello All!
> I recently purchased two CD drives from Radio Shack
> CDR-1000's
> According to the specs on the drive the capacity is
> 552 Meg.
> Most of the newer CD's coming out these days are
> averaging
> about 600-650 Meg. Will these drives be able to read
> these
> larger disks or did I waste my money?
> I suppose I could return the drives but because I have
> not yet
> purchased and CD's yet I'd like to know before-hand.
> Thanks in advance for a reply.
> Dean
Dean,
Just a word of advice, stay away from radio shack when it comes to computers.
Their prices and quality can be easily beaten. Try a local computer store or
mail order when it comes to cd rom drives. Most of my electronics came from
Radio Shack (Portable CD players, equalizers, radar detectors, etc.). I bought
a computer there a few years ago and regret it severely. I was overcharged for
both hardware and software. The service is decent (if you pay big bucks for an
extended warranty), but otherwise, forget about any turnaround time.
Creative labs and Sony both make very nice CD rom drives. I have the Creative
Labs that came with the Discovery upgrade kit & Sound Blaster 16 ASP. I got
the whole bundle, including the software toolworks mulitmedia encyclopedia and
The Animals (San Diego Zoo) plus Lemmings on CD for $497. I bought this two
months ago. Recently, I have seen the same package at Sun TV and appliances
for over $100 cheaper.
Bottom line, check around before making your final investment. You will be
glad that you did.
Paul
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From: PAUL PERHACS Number: 4604
To: DAVID SILVER Date: 10/04/93 6:45a
Subj: What do I Need ? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> I am looking into getting a CD-ROM sometime in the
> near future. What will I need as far as system
> hardware to get the most out of a CD-ROM?
> I now have a 486sx/25 with a Sound Blaster. Will the
> CD-Rom plug into an
> expansion slot? I plan to get an internal (I have an
> empty space in front of my computer for one)
> Also, Any advice on what is good? I don't want to go
> overboard on price, however.
> Thanks,
> David
David,
It depends. Do you have a SB 16 ASP? Some sound blasters are cd-ready, and
some are not. Check with your computer store. You may be able to plug your
new cd rom drive into your sb, or you may have to buy some type of controller.
Paul
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From: PAUL PERHACS Number: 4605
To: RYAN MENDEL Date: 10/04/93 6:49a
Subj: CD ROM SET UP FOR BBS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> I have gotten this CD disk for my BBS and I can't set
> it up. Well, i can, put it is a very tedius and long
> way to do it. Has anyone heard of PCSIG 12th edition?
> I could set it up for my BBS by copying all the file
> names to a directory, and type the description for
> each program. Or, is it BBS ready and all I have to
> do is say load to BBS??? PLEASE, some one help me!!
Ryan,
The first step is to tell us what type of bbs software you are running.
Paul
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From: PAUL PERHACS Number: 4606
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 10/04/93 7:01a
Subj: CDROM SPECIALS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey Boris,
What are you getting for Nite Owl 10? When is it coming in? And where can I
pick it up from you?
A local,
Paul
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From: PAUL PERHACS Number: 4607
To: STEVE STEWART Date: 10/04/93 7:03a
Subj: Encylopedia CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Looking for a real good Encyclopedia CD with full
> motion video in it. Any suggestions would be
> appreciated.
Steve,
I have the software toolworks mulitmedia encyclopedia. It came bundled with my
cd. I like it alot.
Paul
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From: BILL WOLFF Number: 4608
To: ALL Date: 10/03/93 9:07a
Subj: SOUND CARDS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I mentioned earlier (although not in the CDROM echo) just briefly
what one would look for in a sound card. I didn't get any replies so
after my research, I dug up the following information. Maybe many
would benefit from this information. Then again, maybe nobody
cares... I found the following to be different compatibility between
sound cards.
Microsoft Windows Sound Systems compatible.
Sound-Blaster Pro II compatible.
AdLib compatible.
Disney Sound-Source compatible.
Covox Speech-Thing compatible.
I guess the first two or three is fairly important. I am not sure
what four and five have to offer, so you tell me.
I have found the Multimedia PRO 16 by AVS Group to include all of
the above modes, plus your standard CD-ROM ports. Well I guess there
isn't really any standard CD-ROM ports, is there?
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From: BENNY FOSTER Number: 4609
To: NANCY DAVIN Date: 10/01/93 12:45a
Subj: World Book Encyclopedia/C Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Do you have any suggestions?
The ones that I like are : Microsoft Encarta, Comptons Multimedia, and
the most bang for the buck, Groliers Multimedia. Not only will you get
pictures, impressive sound (with sound card) but also full motion video
included. Any of your retail computer stores should be able to demo the
different ones for you to select from.
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 4610
To: BOB JENKINS Date: 10/04/93 7:39a
Subj: CD's\For Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Bob!
Sorry sold that one!
But have these for sale Languages of the World $15
Reference Libary $15
RBBS $12
Shareware Overload $13
World Atlas $15
Sharegold2 $13
Take all for 6 for $75 and keep what you want and sell the rest to a friend
512-939-9822
Pat
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 4611
To: ALL Date: 10/04/93 7:54a
Subj: CD's\For Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Languages of the World $15
Reference Libary $15
RBBS $12
Shareware Overload $13
World Atlas $15
Sharegold2 $13
Take all for 6 for $75 and keep what you want and sell the rest to a friend
512-939-9822
Pat
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From: CHARLES ALPERT Number: 4612
To: ALL Date: 10/04/93 4:51p
Subj: Phoenix v4.0 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have a new copy of Phoenix 4.0 for sale. Over 7,000 Files! Will take
any reasonable offer. For quicker response netmail 1:369/78.
Thanks,
Charles
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From: GLENN LOFTUS Number: 4613
To: MARTIN ALBERT Date: 09/30/93 9:09p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Double Spin Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> "All!" bellowed Martin,
> "Have you heard about Mitsumi Double Spin?"
MA> I heard there was a new Double Spin Mitsumi... anyone have the
MA> specs?!
My new system from Gateway 2000 came with the Mitsumi
double-speed CDROM. It is a model CRMC-FX001D. The transfer
rate is 300K/second. I had the advertized access time written
down, but I can't find it now.
I had originally written on this topic that I was disappointed
in the system's performance. I have since reconfigured the
CDROM driver, and am now getting much better performance. The
system was shipped with the MTMCDAS driver. I switched to the
MTMCDAE (DMA) driver, and now The 7th Guest plays all animations
smoothly, with no jerky video at all. For the price, I could
not be happier with this drive.
--Glenn...
... Never try to outstubborn a cat.
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From: GARY PITTMAN Number: 4614
To: ANDREW LARMOUR Date: 10/05/93 7:47a
Subj: Britanica Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 10-01-93, Andrew Larmour said to Don Bosman!
AL>Hi Don,
AL> I spoke to a Brittanica salesman a few months ago here
AL>in
AL>Melbourne Australia, and he said "It is available on two CD-
AL>ROM's but he wasnt sure of the price since they hadnt had
AL>much call for it..."
I checked into Encyclopedia Brittanica a couple of years ago and the price
was around $350 or $400 as I recall. I don't know if it has come down any.
I remember they wanted essentially the same for the CD version as they did
for the paper version.
___Gary
--- WinQwk 2.0b#0
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From: JAMIE PASSEY Number: 4615
To: ALL Date: 10/04/93 2:52p
Subj: CD-Rom prices Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I would like to purchase a CD-ROM drive, preferably cheap (since i don't
have much $$).. how much does a good drive cost? How much does a CD with
tons of shareware on it cost..? Does anyone have a used drive?
thank you!
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From: DEAN BUXTON Number: 4616
To: PAUL PERHACS Date: 10/05/93 7:09a
Subj: CD capacity Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> > Hello All!
-> > I recently purchased two CD drives from Radio Shack
->
-> Just a word of advice, stay away from radio shack when it comes to co
-> Their prices and quality can be easily beaten. Try a local computer
-> mail order when it comes to cd rom drives. Most of my electronics ca
-> Radio Shack (Portable CD players, equalizers, radar detectors, etc.).
-> Bottom line, check around before making your final investment. You w
-> glad that you did.
-> Paul
Thanks for the input Paul. I almost *never* shop at Radio Shack.
They have a reputation for selling inferior quality hardware IMHO.
However, for $149 I could not pass up the price for this CD Rom Drive.
It seems to be working fine so far, keeping my fingers crossed.
While I agree it is an older model (CDR-1000), I'm pleased with it
so far.
Dean
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 4617
To: EERO MAKELA Date: 10/04/93 3:38p
Subj: Re: CDROM with RA 1.11 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Eero Makela to All <=-
EM> Is anyone using a CD ROM with Remote Access BBS. I can't seem to get
EM> the FILES.### files.bbs listing to work with my system. Also what is
EM> the BEST CD ROM to buy and what method of user interface to use (ie
EM> CD-ROM Door).
The sysop of this BBS (see tagline) runs RA. He's Dan Guillory and you
can reach him at the node address. He presently is running two CD-ROM
drives.
... I know a good tagline when I steal one.
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 4618
To: ALL Date: 10/05/93 5:32p
Subj: CD"s Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello All!
Only have a few cd's left to sell
Shareware Goldd2 $15
Shareware Overload $17
Software Tolworks Reference Library $17
RBBS $14
Or make me a offer!
512-939-9822
Pat
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 4619
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 10/04/93 5:29a
Subj: CD-ROM GAMES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AB>Well Henry in ways it does help but well I will figure out what dress I need
AB>no problem with that, but once I enter the timpod, someone told me that the
AB>coordianates are split between some gum wrapper and hint book, both of which
AB>have, but how in heavnes name do I use it, TTYL.
Okay, what I did was write down the codes on paper. Then enter them once
in the pod....
BTW- these are the codes for SQ1.
TTYL,
Henry
* OLX 2.1 TD * I am G.Bush of BORG: Not gonna do it, wouldn't be prudent
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From: PATRICK MCCORMICK Number: 4620
To: KEVIN PLUMMER Date: 10/03/93 9:49p
Subj: Re: Dealers Wanted! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Jurrie Hobers to Kevin Plummer <=-
KP> ==========>>>>>> W A N T E D D E A L E R S <<<<<<===========
KP> Wanting people to become Dealers, Or to distribute to Dealers
KP> Call Mutli-Media and ask for:
KP> Susan
KP> Cheapest Prices around !!!!
KP> Or send Name, A fax Number, Or phone Number to where you can be
KP> reached to 1:231/570
KP> 1-800-865-5354
KP> =================================================================
I'd like to see your listing and possibley get setup over here in Guam,
Call my BBS at 011-1-671-565-6707 or call voice at 011-1-671-565-6726 we
are about one day ahead of you. Or you can mail it to..
Patrick McCormick
75 Plumeria St.
New Apra Santa, Guam
96915-0000
Look forward to hearing from you soon..
Patrick..
... Catch the Blue Wave!
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From: ERNEST PRESSLEY Number: 4621
To: DONNIE RAYNOR Date: 10/04/93 7:56p
Subj: Mitsumi CD-DRIVE Refer: NONE
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Hello Donnie!
DR> Ernest to my knowledge you would need a controller for each drive unless
DR> you use a SCSI drive, which allows you to daisy chain drives. But you may
DR> check with someone else, I am not certain.
Will any Scsi controller work or do Mitsumi have a controller that allows
multiple drives of there's on it. Is there a # to contact them so that i can
ask them for Tech Help!!
Ernest
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From: TIM SMITH Number: 4622
To: DAVE REED Date: 09/29/93 12:35p
Subj: Re: OS/2 CD ROM & Mitsumi Refer: NONE
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DR> For running under OS/2, the Mitsumi is NOT the preferred way to go.
DR> The SCSI drives are DIRECTLY supported by OS/2, where the Mitsumi
DR> needs 3rd-party device drivers that don't necessarily work as
DR> advertised. The 3rd-party drivers are for those that were foolish
DR> enough to buy the Mitsumi before realizing what a mistake they made.
DR> Any serious OS/2 user is going to buy a SCSI drive.
HEY! I'm not Foolish, I'm just not rich enough to by a Scsi drive thats fast.
... Aliens have invaded Earth! How else do you explain DOS?
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From: TIM SMITH Number: 4623
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 12:38p
Subj: Kodak CD Refer: NONE
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Hey, does anyone know of a Kodak CD you can bye with pictures on it already?
Kinda like a CD with GIF's but better rez.
... "Graphic Artist seeks Boss with vision impairment."
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From: CHRIS SNYDER Number: 4624
To: MIKE KELLEY Date: 10/02/93 10:18a
Subj: windows or dos Refer: NONE
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Thanks for the info on Kings
Quest VI.
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From: RODOLFO VAZ Number: 4625
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 10/04/93 1:34p
Subj: NEW CDs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Boris,
I'm looking for CDROMs :
. Professional Shareware
. Multimidia
. OS/2
. BBS software (BBS util)
Send me a message with the titles and prices, O.K. ? (Or crash
me again). Thanks for the five CDs, they are really good, but "I'm
hungry" :-) ... So I want more and more ...
[]s Rodolfo Vaz
NC806
... Brazil mail in U.S.A. ! From Brasilia, Capital of Brazil !
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From: KEVIN MARTIN Number: 4626
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 10/05/93 4:08a
Subj: PANASONIC CR562B Refer: NONE
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On Sep 27 21:16, Gordon Peterson of 1:124/5125 wrote:
GP> You're more likely to damage a CD taking it out of or putting it into
GP> caddies than you are by putting one into a caddyless drive. And most
GP> people don't buy many "expensive CDs", the most-bought CDs cost
GP> significantly less than $50... not a whole lot more than a good audio
GP> CD. And how many of those get damaged by normal handling?
When I buy a CD, I buy a caddy also. The disk is NEVER taken out of the
caddy after it is put in the first time. It is worth the extra $5, to me.
There is a big difference between audio and data disks. Both have error
correction data, but when an audio disk becomes damaged enough that the
error correction won't work, the cd player will insert an estimate as to
what the audio should be. When a data disk becomes damaged, a filler
block of data just won't do.
I repair these things for a living, and over the years I've seen quite
a few damaged disks caused by lack of care. Many people think that data
disks are just like audio disks, they'll take them out of the player and
set them down on the desktop. . .
Just my two cents worth.
Kevin
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From: JORGE GUTIERREZ Number: 4627
To: ADRIA SALAS Date: 10/04/93 8:28p
Subj: Re: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
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I would like to have a catalog also.
My name and address is:
Jorge Gutierrez
11215 N.W. 6 Street
Miami, Fla. 33172-3558
Thanks you very much.
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From: JIM MOTLEY Number: 4628
To: COREY BICCUM Date: 10/04/93 2:25a
Subj: 7th guest? Refer: NONE
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CB>Anyone know any secrets to getting 7th guest to run? I don't have enough b
CB>memory. Do you need dos6 to get it to run? By the time I load the drivers
CB>I'm down there in free memory. What gives? Want to get this game going, I
CB>my first disk I own!
Corey if you are running Dos 5 just go in and copy your Autoexec.bat to
a bootup disk. Then go into your "COPIED" autoexec.bat and rem out any
drivers that you won't be using in the game and go..It is easier to just
rem out the Autoexec.bat and Config.sys on your hard drive if you are
familiar with doing that..Hope it helps..
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4629
To: ALL Date: 09/27/93 6:28p
Subj: Catalogs Refer: NONE
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I've seen several messages lately indicating that CD-ROM catalogs are
available. I'm always interested in knowing who has what, and at what
price. My address: Gordon E. Peterson II, 49 rue Lacepede, 75005
Paris, FRANCE. Thanks much, in advance. :-)
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4630
To: ROGER SMITH Date: 09/27/93 9:16p
Subj: PANASONIC CR562B Refer: NONE
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RS> RP> Point #1 - If you take reasonable care of your equipment you are
RS> RP> UNLIKELY to damage a CD disk.
RS>Yes, but just damage one expensive CD and you may wish you had had it in a
RS>caddy.
You're more likely to damage a CD taking it out of or putting it into
caddies than you are by putting one into a caddyless drive. And most
people don't buy many "expensive CDs", the most-bought CDs cost
significantly less than $50... not a whole lot more than a good audio
CD. And how many of those get damaged by normal handling?
RS> RP> Point #2 - Drives that do not use caddies do not eat CDs the same way
RS> RP> a cheap cassette player eats cassettes. They should not be considered
RS> RP> inferior for solely because they use a tray mechanism.
RS>No. But for the most part, only the less expensive drives are caddy-less.
I would certainly agree that caddyless drives represent a better value.
:-) But that certainly doesn't make them more likely to damage a disc,
in any case.
RS> RP> Point #3 - If you purchase a caddy drive for protection it is
RS> RP> reasonable that you must also purchase a caddy for each disk you own
RS> RP> because you are just as likely to damage the disks putting then in and
RS> RP> taking them out of caddies. Now let say you purchase 10 disks at an
RS> RP> average cost of 40 dollars each and then buy 10 caddies at a cost of
RS> RP> 7.50 each. You would have had to trash 2 disks or 20 percent of your
RS> RP> programs before buying the caddies will save you anything above the
RS> RP> cost of their purchase.
RS>Caddies are only about $5 each which is not much to protect discs that can c
RS>a lot more than $40.
That depends on where you buy your caddies. And typical discs cost MUCH
less than $40. I think $23-34 is more typical, based on what I've seen
here on the echos. If you were going to buy CDs like the Oxford
Dictionary, and planned to check them out to patrons in a public
library, then you might have a point... but we're talking about normal
home use here.
RS> RP> Point #4 - If you do not take reasonable care of your equipment, if
RS> RP> you possess no hand/eye coordination, if you are prone to getting
RS> RP> drunk while using your computer equipment, if you consistently trash
RS> RP> music CDs just by looking at them, or if you allow your children to
RS> RP> play with your computer then purchasing a CDROM that uses caddies IS A
RS> RP> NECESSITY.
RS>Or if you simply prefer the safety and CONVENIENCE that a caddy drive offers
There's no convenience in searching for the disc you want out of a stack
of thirty to fifty identical caddies. In the jewel boxes, you can often
find the disc you want quickly, just by the color of the spine of the
jewelbox.
RS>Point #6. Caddies make it as easy to switch CDs as it is to switch floppies
RS>without worrying about being extra careful.
RS>I really think that it makes no sense to purchase a caddy-less CDROM drive
RS>unless you don't really think you're going to use the CDROM drive very often
RS>(and in that case, it may not make much sense to buy a CDROM drive).
I think (given the price of the Mitsumi) it is awfully hard to justify
buying a system nowadays WITHOUT a CD-ROM drive. And if you run a BBS,
you might have the same disc in the drive for months on end. No
convenience from caddies there.
Sorry, Roger, unless you've got a houseful of careless and destructive
kids, or plan to use your discs in a car CD player, I _really_ think
caddies are an enormous waste of money and materials.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4631
To: STEWART ROTHMAN Date: 09/27/93 9:35p
Subj: XXX CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SR>I'm just curious.......Why does there seem to be such a proliforation
SR>of X-Rated CD's ? For those who are into that sort of thing, they can get mu
SR>better quality and diversability with VHS Movie cartridges either for
SR>$29.00-$39.00 through the magazine ads or $1.50 to $3.50 per day at Video
SR>rental places. I cannot understand why anyone would tie up an expensive
I think there are a variety of reasons.
1. XXX-rated images are very popular for downloading from BBSes.
2. The image resolution is better in computer scans compared to video
tape (which is at best about 400-500 pixels wide and 525 lines high, in
the USA). Computer images go to 1024x768, which gives them much closer
to photographic detail.
3. There is more variety in the computer images, you can put thousands
of radically different images on a single disc, whereas a videotape
will only normally have a relatively small cast of characters and a
limited number of locales, etc. This makes for more "surprise" aspect
in the images as they come up, you never know what might come up next.
4. There is something nice about the computer (a dehumanizing thing in
some ways) being used for things which are the EPITOME of being human.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4632
To: RICK ASHWORTH Date: 09/28/93 12:03p
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
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RA> GP> So why don't audio CD owners love caddies too?
RA>1) Bad original design spec.
I guess you're entitled to that as your opinion. Personally, I think
that the caddy thing is just godawful, I was shocked and terribly
disappointed the first time I ran into that garbage at a computer show.
(In fact, I think the first time I saw them was at an AUDIO show where
they were showing car CD players).
RA>2) CD libraries much more extensive, and audio cd prices are MUCH cheaper th
RA>data CD's over the long haul.
I don't know how you figure, I'm presently buying about three times as
many computer CD discs as I am audio discs. The most recent audio discs
I've bought (prices are higher here in Paris, especially if you want the
good stuff) have been in the $20-30 price range, and I just passed a few
days ago on buying an audio disc for about $35 which I'm sure I would
have liked.
OTOH the bulk of the CD-ROMs that I have I've paid $20-35 for (each), or
about the same price... and given my current buying rate, I'll probably
have more computer CD-ROMs than audio CD discs within seven to ten
years.
RA>It's hard to justify protect my $5.96 Barry Manilow's greatest hits, but not
I probably wouldn't dedicate a caddy to some of my freebie CD-ROMs
either, such as a catalog disc I got from one Paris seller. Likewise
for my Windows Games disc, which I think I paid all of $5 for.
Actually, on reflection... I think that the other post I read here
pointing out that you could AFFORD to replace a couple of discs now
and then for the money people waste on caddies, was spot on.
RA>hard at all on my Delorme Mapping, or Groliers, Dino Adventure, 7th Guest..
RA>nauseum.. I have about 35 CDROMs here all in their own caddies. I also hav
Assuming you paid $5 each for the caddies (and they USED to cost
significantly more), you've got $175 invested in caddies. So far. That
money would replace almost six discs the price of NightOwl. I wonder
how many people here with caddyless drives have messed up that many
discs due to sloppy handling? Not many, I'd wager.
RA>caddyless on my bbs, and the dust problem is extensive on them, never a prob
RA>with the ones in the caddies.
If you have a dust problem, it's sooner or later going to cause you
grief on your other system components as well (it's especially hard, for
example, on floppy disk drives and the diskettes in them... but an
accumulation of dust also insulates motherboard components and raises
chip temperatures, which tends to accelerate failure rates). If you've
got a dust problem, work on fixing _that_ rather than trying to fix
single components where the symptom manifests itself.
Besides, the question of CD-ROMs getting "dusty" is mostly a non-issue
anyhow... first, they don't read the TOP of the disc anyhow, and the
bottom is unlikely to collect dust. You could easily read a disc
(bottom side) which had 1/8 inch layer of dust along the top, (at least
as long, I suppose, as it didn't come flying off when the disc spun).
:-)) Second, there are few things involved with the computer which are
as easy to clean dust off of than a CD-ROM... a soft paper towel and a
spritz of Windex or some other mild detergent solution work just fine.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4633
To: ROGER SMITH Date: 09/28/93 12:04p
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RS> RS>> Caddies are only about $5 each. Surely, that's not much to protect
RS> RS>> a CDROM that can cost much more.
RS> GP> So why don't audio CD owners love caddies too?
RS>Because the average cost of an audio CD is much less than the average cost o
RS>CDROM.
FWIW, that's not really true here in Europe, where audio CDs can easily
cost $20-35 or more.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4634
To: ANDREW SEE Date: 09/28/93 12:10p
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
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AS>Simple... Record companies sell a CD every time someone scratches their
AS>favourite Barry Manilow disc. Record companies have a LOT of muscle with
Actually, I doubt very much that most people replace such discs. In any
case, there are really few audio CDs which (handled with a modicum of
care) get damaged like that. Old vinyl LPs used to get far more
seriously damaged by dust and handling than CDs ever could, and there
weren't a lot of those that got replaced either.
AS>media development, as CD's were jointly developed by Philips and Sony,
AS>Sony being the owner of CBS I beleive.
Sony bought into CBS long after the CD development was established on
the market.
AS>Secondly, how many Audio CD's are worth hundreds of bucks. Who would use
AS>a $1000 CDROM disk without the protection of a caddy?
The number of CD-ROMs out there which are worth $1000 is a vanishingly
small percentage of the total. The great majority of CD-ROMs sold are
in the below-$50 price range, which puts them at a price not all that
much higher than a good audio CD.
AS>Caddyless drives are fine for small time home users with an inexpensive
AS>collection of ROMs. For a business or bigtime user, with a large
AS>investment in expensive CDROMs caddies are essential.
Sorry, I just don't agree with you here. Among other things, a
"business or bigtime user" is much more likely to share these expensive
CD-ROMs across their LAN, rather than physically distributing them to
sloppy and careless users to begin with.
AS>The Creative kits are targetted at home/game users, look at the CDrom
AS>drives installed in Libraries, Corporations etc. They don't have the 7th
AS>Guest in them, they have expensive database disks, so they use caddy
AS>drives.
The intelligent way for a library to use CD-ROMs is for them to place
the requested disc in a LAN server behind the desk, and let the patron
access it via the LAN from their workstation.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4635
To: ALAN WHITEMORE Date: 09/28/93 6:37p
Subj: Panasonic 562b + Sb Mono Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AW>player does though. I'm quite impressed that playing an audio CD in the
AW>background has such little impact on Window's performance.
That's because once you tell the player to "play" an audio CD it does so
with NO further attention from the PC's processor whatsoever. You can
even (if you have an external drive) power off the PC entirely, the CD
will continue to play.
AW>The classical music I mentioned was one of the selections in the STW MPC
AW>encyclopedia. I found the distortion quite evident and just wondered how
AW>much more superior the SB 16 ASP was for MM applications.
The sound isn't being digitized, the distortion you're hearing is
because you're probably overdriving either the inputs or the amplifier
stages of the sound card. Try reducing the level of the output signal
going from the CD-ROM drive to the sound card, if you can.
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From: TAPANI TUOMINEN Number: 4636
To: ALL Date: 10/02/93 10:43a
Subj: Sb compatible cd-rom:s Refer: NONE
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Can anyone give me a complete list of CD-ROM drives that are compatible
with Soundblaster cards. This means drives that can be controlled by SB:s
integrated controller thus eliminating the need of a separate controller
in asystem with SB. I need main specs. like speed, access time
caddy/no-caddy and a current US-price.
- Tapani Tuominen - Paris, France - CIS 100265,417 - Fido 2:320/7 -
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From: NEIL RIPSTON Number: 4637
To: RICK POTTS Date: 09/28/93 6:46a
Subj: ENCARTA... Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Rick Potts to Gene Ehrich <=-
GE> I can't imagine anybody will pay $105 for a used CD that you can
GE> buy new for just a few dollars more.
GE>===
RP> That's a $250 program he's selling....Not a $49 one.
And I must say a great!! program. I wonder why he's selling it.
$105.00 is a great price.
Neilr
... Mary had a little RAM -- only about a MEG or so.
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From: NEIL RIPSTON Number: 4638
To: ALL Date: 10/04/93 10:44p
Subj: PKZIP 2.04G AND TEXEL CD Refer: NONE
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I've got a really different problem that maybe somebody has experienced before.
What happens is that if I use PKZIP 2.04 G to try to unzip any file on my
TEXEL DM-3024 internal drive, my computer does a cold boot! Anybody ever heard
of this? The files
can be unzipped if I copy them to the hard drive first without problems. Only
when I unzip from the CD is there a problem. On older disks I can use pkunzip
1.1 or whatever the older version is, buthis is pretty unusual.
I have almost cleared all config.sys commands and some of the Autoexec.bat
commands to see if this solves the problem. I need some help.
any suggestions? Anyone??
Thanks,
Neil Ripston
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4639
To: PAUL NALEY Date: 10/05/93 12:43a
Subj: CD-ROM PREORDERS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PN>MS> We are now taking pre-orders on the following titles
PN>MS> - Cards are not processed until date of shipment -
PN>MS> NIGHT OWL 10 * What more can be said? Always the top-rated s/w
CD......$3
PN>MS> CD OS/2BOX * The newest from Damar. 300+mb of EXCLUSIVELY OS2 2.x
s/w!.$2
PN>MS> PIER 3 * 650+mb of all new material w/ no dupes to Pier 1 or
2.........$3
PN>Mike you already have my Pre-Order on file for Night Owl 10, but I just
PN>noticed that another dealer (Groupware) is offering their pre-order
PN>price of $20. Will you match it?
Tell you what - order two from Ismail. If he actually sells them at that
price, send me one and I'LL BUY IT FROM YOU!
Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4640
To: ROBERT FROST Date: 10/05/93 12:43a
Subj: Unknown NightowlCD Refer: NONE
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RF>I was wondering if anyone could help me, with this CD i've got. It says
RF>Night Owl's , instead of just nightowl.Is this an imitation, or just a
mistak
RF>The CD was made in 1990 and it's number is PDSI-002-1.
This is Night Owl's version 2.1, which I *think* was one of the original
Carr's discs. Anyone?
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4641
To: ALL CD-ROM DEALERS Date: 10/05/93 12:43a
Subj: GREAT PRICES ON PIER'S! Refer: NONE
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ATTENTION CD-ROM DEALERS!
-------------------------
Starvector is pleased to announce our joint venture with The Pier Exchange
and Damar Enterprises, as distributors for their respective lines of high-
quality, superior shareware CD-ROM titles. We now have the following CD
titles available for resale, with EXCELLENT mix-n-match dealer pricing:
Pier 3 * Pier 2 * Pier 1 * CD OS/2Box * CD Powerbox 1.01 * CD Winbox
If you are interested in any of these titles, please give us a call!
Starvector Software * 509-457-2892 (voice) * 509-457-2966 (fax)
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4642
To: ALL Date: 10/05/93 12:43a
Subj: PRE-ORDER OS/2 BOX! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
We are now taking pre-orders on the following title.
Title: CD OS/2BOX Price: $29
* Slick, mouse-driven graphic user interface for OS/2
* Consists of 100% OS/2 2.0+ shareware applications. No old version
1.x files * Fully BBS-ready * 350+mb total
* To begin shipping around 1st part of October * FREE s/h on preorders
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)
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From: RICHARD J COX Number: 4643
To: SCOTT GIBSON Date: 09/27/93 9:34p
Subj: do i know you?? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Scott Gibson to Neil Bergman <=-
SG> Please send me a copy of your CD catalogue. Thanks!
SG> Scott Gibson
SG> 306 Burnwick Rd.
SG> Richmond, VA 23227-1633
I realize there are probably a few thousand Scott Gibson's,
but do you happen to be the Scott Gibson I went to high school
with in Oshkosh???
A little off topic, I know, but I couldn't resist asking!
Rich
... Tag line thievery ... On the next Geraldo!
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From: BILL GOCHNOUR Number: 4644
To: ALL Date: 10/06/93 12:12a
Subj: Adult Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Disclaimer mode..... I am not sure if this is allowed or not but I think I
saw a msg stating as long as it's tasteful.....???? If this is not allowed I
appologize.
I am looking for a quality adult oriented CD. It needs to be bbs ready AND
have original photos. I do NOT want a disc of files that have been scanned
from magazines that like to sue people. If such a disc is out there can
someone let me know the name(s)? If your a dealer and you have such a dsic
can you let me know prices too? Thanx
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* Origin: The Temple of Rock on Okinawa Japan (6:733/1)
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 4645
To: RICK ASHWORTH Date: 10/03/93 5:39p
Subj: Backbone status? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Currently your area, CDROM, is listed on the FIDONET.SS (Southern Sta
-> listing, but not the FIDONET.NA (backbone) listing. During the next
CDROM is in my copy of FIDONET.NA...
tim
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* Origin: The Liability BBS 404-491-1405 (1:133/515.0)
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From: LEE BAILEY Number: 4646
To: ALL Date: 10/05/93 12:55p
Subj: 2x CD Searches -- too slow! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Has anyone out there tried Lightning CD or one of the CD caches?
My drive : SB16 kit w/Matsushita (Panasonic) double speed drive
300kb data transfer rate, access time something like 350ms
My question : I am currently searching a CD for un-indexed data, which
means that depending on several factors, the program will
have to search the entire CD (680 megs?). Doing this sort
of search is extremely time consuming, and it would be even
if I were searching a hard drive of that size. In a worst
case scenario, the CD takes several hours (I'm guessing from
4 to 6 hours), and I just cannot afford to tie up my PC for
that long.
Is a CD cache the answer? I am also wondering how much
conventional memory one of these caching programs uses (from
what I understand, they replace SMARTDRV altogether, right)?
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* Origin: The GentleGiant BBS VA (804)875-0474 (1:271/215)
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From: JURRIE HOBERS Number: 4647
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 10/03/93 9:33p
Subj: A FEW CD TITLES . . . . . Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
MS> STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5
MS> pcs. 509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284
MS> (ORDERS ONLY!!) -!-
Hello!
Can you please fax me a dealerpricelist?
If you need more info, or anything else like a dealer license or
so, please fax it through, I will send it to you!
My fax number is:
+31-5910-12676
Thank you in advance!!
Jurrie Hobers
St. Diamond Soft
P/a Calthornerbrink 43
7812 HS Emmen
The Netherlands
... Why look at the DOCS if there are nurses........?
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From: JURRIE HOBERS Number: 4648
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 10/03/93 9:39p
Subj: Catalogues?? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NB> Neil Bergman
Hello Neil!
I have seen your name in accordance with many cd's around here for
a long time, and because I am still looking for compettitive
dealers all around the world, I hope that you will send me your
latest dealer information.
My FAX number is: +31-5910-12676
If you want to mail me;
St. Diamond Soft
P/a Calthornerbrink 43
7812 HS Emmen
The Netherlands
Europe
Thank you in advance! Hope to do business with you in the future!
When your prices are compettitive, I can give you regular orders!
GreetinX!
Jurrie Hobers
Managing Director
... Why look at the DOCS if there are nurses........?
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From: RAY DYER Number: 4649
To: MICHAEL COOPER Date: 10/05/93 3:47p
Subj: Cd Rom Scratches Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
It could be. Thanks for the suggestion. As I am a Tech, will look into
it. Perhaps it might be simply a spec of bust inside the tracking coils.
This is perhaos one advantage of a caddy system as dust is reduced.
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From: JERRY CORNELIUS Number: 4650
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 10/03/93 11:02p
Subj: 7th Guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AB>You know Russell I have seen a lot of messages about people having a lot
AB>of problems either installing that game or running that game and the
AB>funny thing is that it installed and works fine on my computer, taken my
AB>computer is not as fast or yours, I have a 386dx/40 mhz, with 8 meg ram,
AB>and a Mitsumi 350 ms access and 150 kb/sec transfer and a ordinary SB
AB>2.0 sound card and I get no problems whatsoever, but the only thing I
AB>can suggest is that maybe you are not giving enought buffer memory for
I have the same setup as you except mine is an SBpro. Seventh
Guest runs fine here *out of the box*. I use a boot disk to make
sure that there are no TSRs and that I have plenty of memory
available, but haven't changed any configurations.
And there was an earlier thread about how demanding the video
test was by all these posters with their fancy graphics cards.
My Diamond SpeedStar Plus, which is 3 years old and I bought it
used for $40, got 90%. From the way everyone's teeth had been
chattering here, I'd been expecting less than 10% compatability
if it worked at all.
* SLMR 2.1 *
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From: JERRY CORNELIUS Number: 4651
To: COREY BICCUM Date: 10/04/93 6:39p
Subj: 7th guest? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CB>Anyone know any secrets to getting 7th guest to run? I
CB>don't have enough base memory. Do you need dos6 to get it
CB>to run? By the time I load the drivers, I'm down there in
CB>free memory. What gives? Want to get this game going,
CB>It's my first disk I own!
As it says in the manual: Make a boot disk, make sure that there
are no TSRs, use an XMS memory driver only, load DOS high.
It works fine here.
* SLMR 2.1 *
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From: CHRIS CONKLIN Number: 4652
To: ALL Date: 10/05/93 9:19p
Subj: Seedy Sixpak $99 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Seedy Six Pack Only $99.00 including shipping! (US)
These are brand new and still in original wrap for a limited time only limited
to stock on hand, so act quickly!
Call to reserve your set of six adult discs and then send the money to the
following address. Will send COD!
C-3 Production Systems
PO Box 60144
San Angelo, Tx 76906
915-944-7187
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From: GUY R. LANNEWEHR Number: 4653
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 10/03/93 3:08p
Subj: Re: National telephone direct Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
GRL>The prices sound pretty reasonable. Are these disks updated every year,
MS> and GRL>if so, what are the prices on upgrades?
MS> Yes they are, but I haven't heard what the upgrade price will be yet.
MS> If you wait a month or so however, you can usually buy the new release
MS> from me for less than the upgrade price!
MS> Later,
MS> .\\ike
Thanks for the info Mike
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From: LOYD CRAFT Number: 4654
To: ALL Date: 10/03/93 9:21p
Subj: Custom cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
D i g i t a l E n t e r p r i s e s c u s t o m
C D R O M s e r v i c e
We can transfer your programs and data from Tape, Floppy or Hard Disk to
Industry Standard CDROM, which is accessible by any ISO9660 compliant CDROM
reader.
Price schedule:
---------------
Quantity Price each
-------- ----------
1 $144.00, and $55 per each additional.
*5-9 $65.00
*10+ $50.00
* - Quantity 5 and over flat-rate pricing applies to multiple copies
of the SAME disk.
Shipping:
---------
All orders are sent via UPS ground unless customer specifies a different
method. Add $5 for UPS Blue label service, and $15 for UPS red label service.
Getting your data to us:
------------------------
We currently support QIC-40 and QIC-80 tapes through the use of a Colorado
DJ-20 tape drive. We also support streaming tape drives that use DC600/6XXXX
tape. Floppy disks are accepted, but at a premium of $8/hr of restore time.
We Also have in the past, accepted a hard disk as the method of transferral.
Naming conventions:
-------------------
One limiting factor of CDROM is the limit that the ISO 9660 standard places on
filenames. Filenames MUST NOT contain characters other than A-Z, 0-9 or the
"_" underscore character.
We will at your request rename non-compliant files, and files.bbs listings at
no additional cost.
Terms:
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Prepay for service via certified funds. Personal checks must clear our bank
before production begins. Please make your check or money order payable to
"Digital Enterprises". The following signed statement must accompany all
orders:
=== Cut ---
I certify that the material I am presenting to Digital Enterprises for
transferral to CDROM violates no copyright laws. The service that Digital
Enterprises provides is a bulk copying operation, and as such they have no
knowledge of the contents thereof. I assume sole responsibility for the
contents of said CDROM(S).
Signed:___________________________
Date:______________
=== Cut ---
For more information:
---------------------
Contact us by voice, or log onto our BBS, and download the file CDINFO.ZIP. For
those with access to a Fidonet compatible mailer, file request the magic
filename "CDINFO".
Digital Enterprises
125 S. Saginaw
St. Charles, MI 48655
Voice: 517-865-6800 - BBS: 517-865-6066 - Fidonet: 1:239/900.0
(C) Copyright 1993, Digital Enterprises
===
* OLX 2.1 * Ea$yTerm$:100% down;pay nothing for the rest of your life
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4655
To: ALL Date: 10/06/93 2:46a
Subj: NEW CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
A L L N E W M O N S T E R M E D I A 93 I I
* Over 5,000 NEW Files * Over 665 Meg's * No Dupes * Virus Checked
* 128 pg Manual * All Zipped Files * New Viewer * and More !!
The ALL NEW "Monster Media 93 II" is here and ready for delievery !!
All programs on this cd were written or updated between May 1st and August
31st 1993. It offers multi-line discriptions as well as supports for
several BBS formats to make installation a breeze!! PRICE - $30.00
ORDERS ONLY! US/CAN 800-243-0517 TEC/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... Pioneering Off-line Mail Technology!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4656
To: ALL Date: 10/06/93 2:46a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 10 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
A L L N E W N I G H T O W L 10
* Over 5,100 NEW Files * Over 647 Meg's * No Dupes * Virus Checked
* No Dupes To v9.0 * All Zipped Files * New Viewer * and More !!
The ALL NEW "Night Owl 10 " is here and ready for delievery !! All
programs on this cd were written or updated between Jan 1st and Sept 1st
1993. In fact, 100megs of the total files are from Sept 1993.In addition,
N.O has a mouse driven GUI interface for both DOS and Windows !!
Call Now And Get Your Copy ! - PRICE - $30.00
ORDERS ONLY! US/CAN 800-243-0517 TEC/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
... Who Killed Superman?
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4657
To: PAUL PERHACS Date: 10/06/93 2:46a
Subj: Re: CDROM SPECIALS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Hey Boris,
>> What are you getting for Nite Owl 10? When is it coming in?
>> And where can I pick it up from you?
>> A local,
Give us a call Paul at 216-225-3263 and we'll be happy to help you further.
Our price on the New Night Owl 10 is $30.
Chat with you soon.
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... Pioneering Off-line Mail Technology!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4658
To: KEVIN MARTIN Date: 10/06/93 2:46a
Subj: Re: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> On Oct 04 03:10, Boris Osadciw of 1:124/5125 wrote:
BO>> Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SCSI
>> Phillips sells gasoline or Milk of Magnesia. Philips, is the
>> company that sells electronics.
>> Regards,
Thanks Kevin, will fix it right quick !
Although, after typing replies all day long, I think I could use a pitcher
full of Phillips.....
Later...
Boris Osadciw
... Mail Media. Do not expose to Flames!
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From: COREY BICCUM Number: 4659
To: ALL Date: 10/05/93 5:56p
Subj: CDROM games Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey, just kinda wondering, how does a guy tell if a cdrom game is MADE for cd
rom or if it is just a disk based game made onto cdrom? Eg. Blue force.
pretty good game, but it doesn't use the power of the cd rom at all that I know
of, no speach, and the game isnt' very large.
So how bout a game like Eric The Unready? The cdrom version, I thaught that
this was a CDROM game, and the other day I saw it in floppy version, is this
just the same as the floppy version? Or is it enhanced?
What about Indianna Jones, another one I want to buy but not sure if its the
same deal. Does anyone know if ERic the Unready, and Indianna Jones has speach
in them?
What are some good CDROM games? With lot of talking and stuff. Please dont
say 7th guest. .yuk!
thanx
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From: DICK HUDDLESTON Number: 4660
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/27/93 9:03a
Subj: Re: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
BH> Bob Hall
BH> still trying to moderately moderate this echo... :-)
Sorry you have to take so much flak from people that don't understand
the tremendous responsibility you have. And since I am a transplanted
Okie, I can understand the apprehension you have that someday 'big
brother' will give you a visit...
Thanks for the job you do and the stuff you have to put up with.
... Precinct toilets stolen. Police have nothing to go on.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
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From: ED JUNE Number: 4661
To: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/529 Date: 10/04/93 8:41p
Subj: Hobbes CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
--> Note:
Moved (from: MUFFIN) by Ed June using timEd.
Sandeleh Francis @ 910/529 wrote in a message to Allen Fogleson:
SF@9> there is a new os/2 cd out (or out soon, should be shipping
SF@9> oct 6) called os/2cd box. its put out by the guy who did
SF@9> winbox (or something like that, i didnt recognize the title,
SF@9> i'm afraid) and is said to contain ONLY os/2 2.x files. no
SF@9> old 1.x or unix stuff. of course, that means its only about
SF@9> 325 megs or so, but is supposed to be set up already for bbs
SF@9> installation. the bbses mentioned didnt include maximus
SF@9> (which i found *very strange) but maybe max uses some other
SF@9> bbs setup type files? anyway, if you can get a gander at
SF@9> the cd_sale echo, the vendor i'm getting this cd from is
SF@9> star vector. if you cant find it, let me know, i'll copy
SF@9> his ad to this echo.
SF@9> \/\/ild_________
SF@9> |hing
SF@9> TeamOS/2
So, will this have different files than the Hobbes CD?
Or dupes?
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* Origin: Atlanta's OS/2 User's Group BBS/FAX 404-471-1549 (1:133/308)
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From: JOHN RACKLEY Number: 4662
To: LEVIEN VAN ZON Date: 10/04/93 12:53p
Subj: Re: ATARI SOFTWARE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I don't have any information on Atari ST software on CD-ROM either.
If you find this information, please tell me!
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From: DOUG KANDEL Number: 4663
To: WALTER CHISENSKI Date: 10/04/93 3:15p
Subj: Re: 7th guest? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
You also need to have enough conventional memory. Try running memmaker if you
have the guts (some bugs and file alteration problems exist) or if you want to
do it the right way buy Quaterdecks QEMM which will free as much as 634KB of
conventional memory for the best operation of all applications with all the
TSRs you can jam in there..
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From: JOE PATTERSON Number: 4664
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 10/04/93 7:55a
Subj: OS/2 CD's Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
MS> We're now taking pre-orders for what will be the best-ever OS/2 CD to
MS> hit the market - CD OS/2BOX. It has over 300 megabytes of EXCLUSIVELY
MS> OS/2 2.0/2.1 shareware, with a first-class G.U.I interface. Price will
Mike, I am counting on you NOT to forget me. :{) I definetly want this CD when
it is available. Thanks.
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From: WAYNE MAJORS Number: 4665
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 10/05/93 10:10p
Subj: XXX CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On Sep 27 21:35, Gordon Peterson of 1:106/167 wrote:
GP> 1. XXX-rated images are very popular for
GP> downloading from BBSes.
I 'spect so.. but from the perspective of the area in which I live, one stays
at risk of arrest for distributing pornographic material...
In fact, since the decision has been made to continue to allow x-rated CD's to
be sold through this echo, I have removed the echo from public use on my BBS..
I'm unwilling to risk even the appearance of participating in the sale and
distribution of pornography.. and if someone reads the ad on my BBS and orders,
I have participated in the sale..
I'm no prude, but I'm not stupid either.. :-) To host advertising for these
CDs puts me at risk of arrest and having equipment confiscated...
In addition, I really don't believe the x-rated stuff is a positive influence
on people anyway... It's a shame, because this was a popular echo on my BBS,
but if vendors have to use it for sale of x-rated material, then I can't help
them...
L8r.... - Wayne -
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From: TINA ROCK Number: 4666
To: MIKE KELLEY Date: 10/05/93 10:00p
Subj: RE: OS/2 CD-ROM SUPPORT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Mike,
Thanks for the advice...I will be sure to call Zeos and ask them what they have
available.
Tina Rock
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From: MIKE KELLEY Number: 4667
To: TINA ROCK Date: 10/06/93 8:04p
Subj: Re: Os/2 Cd-Rom Support Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TR>Hi Mike,
>Thanks for the advice...I will be sure to call Zeos and ask
>them what they have available.
>Tina Rock
No problem. Let me know if you need any more help.
___
X QMPro 1.50 44-4444 X PCDOS&MSDOS&CP/M&WINDOWSI'LLFIDDLEWITHOS/2WOULDN'TYOU
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From: DON RIEB Number: 4668
To: BENNY FOSTER Date: 10/05/93 4:51a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Multi Spin?? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BF> I have seen a few ads that mention a Mitsumi double spin CD-Rom drive. I
BF> have sold Mitsumi before and slowed down when the Panasonic drive came
BF> out but would still like the info if its been released. Has anyone heard
BF> this or does anyone have data or wholesale pricing on the unit?
If you are talking about that 350ms access Mitsumi, I have them for $189
quantity 1 and $169 Quantity 3. Shipping in the USA is $17 for each unit.
This is the newer 350ms not the 600ms drive. They were purchased in a large
bulk to get the price down to be competitive. SaveWare 708-657-1160, you can
freq the CDROMCAT.ZIP from 1:115/724 it list that drive and also other
discounted hardware and of course many CDROMs, or Netmail me with your
address and I will send you a printed catalog.
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4669
To: ANDREW SEE Date: 10/05/93 8:37p
Subj: Sbpro, Does It Have A Li Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Andrew!
On 10-01-93 Andrew See wrote to Rowan Evans...
AS> RE> rate.... He did say, though, that he believed that it would cost
AS> RE> approximately the same as the Texel SCSI CD-ROM drive.... That's
AS> RE> around *TWICE* the price of the CR562B!
AS>
AS> This is the drive I have, the teXel DM3024, I paid about $AUS 480.
AS> This is only about $80 more than the Panasonic, which I bought in
AS> a SB16asp kit, but I beleive can be had mail order for around $400.
AS> My guess is that the 533 will probably sell for something like $600.
Well the only guy I've seen selling Texels (not that I've really been
looking) has been asking around $A800.00.... And, when questioned, one
of his staff said he had one and it "hung" all the time, requiring the
PC to be re-booted!
This may be an isolated dealer/user instance, but it makes me glad to
have the CR562B!
Cheers!
o
/U\
... OFFLINE 1.52
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4670
To: CHRIS DONNEGAN Date: 10/05/93 8:41p
Subj: Not In Windows Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Chris!
On 09-30-93 Chris Donnegan wrote to Rowan Evans...
CD> RE> CD> I'm lookin' at a stack o' internal drives in a case with SCSI
CD> RE> CD> interface.
CD> RE> CD>
CD> RE> CD> Ideas?
CD> RE>
CD> RE> Well, the most cost effective (ie cheap) double speed SCSI CD-ROMS
CD> RE> I've seen are the NEC CDR-55s... 350ms access, 300Kbps tfr rate....
CD> RE> Caddy though (bummer....)
CD>
CD> I LIKE caddies...<G>
Get the doctor to check that compulsion out the same time he fixes your
compulsion to SCSI CD-ROMs! <g>
CD> RE>Look around in this echo for ads from some of dealers and see what
CD> RE>deals they offer....
CD> RE>
CD> RE> Brice'll hate me, but I'd recommend an Adaptec to control these
CD> RE> suckers (one note - they have REVERSE parity to anything else...)....
CD>
CD> What, the Adaptecs?
No, the CDR-55s! They'll *APPEAR* to work when you connect them up with
the standard parity setting (you do get a funny line of "clubs" when the
Adaptec reports the CD-ROM type connected), but you'll *NEVER* be able to
transfer data off the CD-ROM... When the correct parity is set, the
h/a picks up the correct "NEC CDR-55" CD-ROM type on startup and the
combo works fine!
Cheers!
o
/U\
... OFFLINE 1.52
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4671
To: ALAN WHITEMORE Date: 10/05/93 8:45p
Subj: Panasonic 562b + Sb Mono Refer: NONE
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Hi Alan!
On 10-01-93 Alan Whitemore wrote to Rowan Evans...
AW> RE> So, from that, unless I grab the SB 2.0 again for a "real" test,
AW> RE> I'd have to say the SB 16 ASP was a far superior device for MM....
AW>
AW> It would bloody well want to be for the price ;-)
True!
AW> RE> But then again, it could've been the way the samples were recorded...
AW>
AW> I'm glad you also found the STW audio samples 'hissy' on the SB16 ASP.
AW> I suppose hiss is what I meant by distortion.
Well, I didn't notice it over-much when I used a set of speakers, but with
Pioneer SE-A4 headphones on it was *VERY* noticeable....
AW> RE> How's the sound on the 1963 Civil Rights March video clip??
AW> RE> (Just a long one selected at random!).....
AW>
AW> Quite clear on the SB mono, though once again quite hissy.
Maybe they got their audio/video samples cheap?
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4672
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 10/05/93 8:49p
Subj: Panasonic 562b + Sb Mono Refer: NONE
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Hi Brice!
On 09-30-93 Brice Fleckenstein wrote to Rowan Evans...
BF> > BF> I've seen a couple of bands that used a pair of bridged Crown
BF> > BF> M600 (2 KILOwatts) amps feeding a pair of Infinity QLS for their
BF> > BF> STAGE amp/speaker system....
BF>
BF> > This sounds good.... Pity that it costs the GNP of a small country
BF> > to buy this type of gear....
BF>
BF> Nope - only a "few" thousand $....
BF>
BF> 8-)
Define "few"..... <g>
Seriously, after looking around, I'm *ALMOST* convinced to buy a small
boom-box with line-in so that I can connect a *REAL* set of speakers!
BF> > The thing is that most small speaker systems that say they'll handle
BF> > the 4 watts or so out of an SB or PAS really won't
BF>
BF> Try a set of Realistic Minimus-7 speakers sometime - or any of the
BF> better"clones" of that speaker (like the Braun or ADS).
BF> The self-amplified Minimus speakers are fairly decent, too - I used
BF> to use a set of the 4" ones at Computer swapmeets....
What do you need to connect these speakers?? They wouldn't terminate in
a 1/8" stereo plug??
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4673
To: NEIL ATWOOD Date: 10/05/93 8:58p
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Hi Neil!
On 10-03-93 Neil Atwood wrote to Rowan Evans...
NA> > Well, the most cost effective (ie cheap) double speed SCSI CD-ROMS
NA> > I've seen are the NEC CDR-55s... 350ms access, 300Kbps tfr rate....
NA> > Brice'll hate me, but I'd recommend an Adaptec to control these
NA> > suckers...
NA> > (one note - they have REVERSE parity to anything else....)....
NA>
NA> Just curious, but can you clarify what you mean by reverse
NA> parity on the NEC drives?
It only seems to occur on the CDR-55. I managed to snag a CDR-74-1 and
a 1540B (floppy-less 1542B) for a few days to do the tests I had to do
and then tried to hook the CDR-55 in instead of the CDR-74-1.
When conected and the PC was powered on, the Adaptec reported that it had
found a CD-ROM drive, but the type msg was a "line of clubs". The PC
would continue to load the O/s, and MSCDEX would load Ok, but, from the
DOS prompt, whilst you could "see" the CDR-55 and do directories of a
CD-ROM in it, immediately you tried to copy files off the CD-ROM, the
setup would hang...
Consultation with a couple of techos from Anabelle Bits (Aust Distributors
for Adaptec) garnered the info to "swap" parity by removing the parity
jumper on the 1540B.... Then it ran just fine!
NA> I have a an NEC CDR74 running off an Adaptec 1542B and do
NA> have fairly regular hangs on th SCSI bus. I think I have
NA> parity set OK. I'm using the current APSI driver and CDROM
NA> driver.
Well, you could *TRY* reversing the setting on the parity jumper.... It
shouldn't damage your system! But be prepared for the system to go out
to lunch if the 74-1 doesn't like it! <g>
You could also try talking to Anabelle Bits, the guys there were *MOST*
helpful!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4674
To: IAN BISHOP Date: 10/05/93 9:27p
Subj: Panasonic Cd No More Refer: NONE
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Hi Ian!
On 10-01-93 Ian Bishop wrote to Rowan Evans...
IB> CD>> The reason I found out they were no longer in
IB> CD>> the business was due to my calling the Panasonic USA headquarters
IB> CD>> in New Jersey to request literature. Today I confirmed what I was
IB> CD>> told on Tuesday: Matsushita will no longer manufacture CD-ROM
IB> CD>> drives for sale under the Panasonic brand name. They will only
IB> CD>> be manufacturing drives under OEM contract for *other* companies.
IB>
IB> What do you think about this lot Rowan? Seems as though the market
IB> may have been given a hell of a bump all of a sudden. I did notice
IB> that at the Queenland Computer Expo today that no Panasonic CD-ROM
IB> on the Panasonic stand. The only drives resembling the panasonic
IB> were in Full MM kits. I just wonder what will happen to the support
IB> for all those users with (theoretically) orphaned 562s?
I have been watching this thread with interest ever since the first msg
was posted regarding Panasonics' "withdrawl" from the retail market....
I think it may be an over-reaction to the popularity of the CR562B/CR563
and the fact that they couldn't handle the support requirements???
I'm lucky - Osborne are telling me that they have signed/will be signing
an OEM agreement to re-sell these drives, & they also appear to be willing
to on-sell CD-ROM "kits" to the public....
Anyway, as the saying goes, we will just have to "wait and see..."
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4675
To: POE LIM Date: 10/05/93 9:37p
Subj: Transfer rates (Panasoni Refer: NONE
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Hi Poe!
On 10-03-93 Poe Lim wrote to Rowan Evans...
PL> Hello Rowan,
PL>
PL> On Oct 01 20:02 in a msg to Poe Lim, Rowan Evans of 3:711/413 wrote:
PL>
PL> > HPFS also gives you the advantage over the FAT file system on the
PL> > DOS setup....
PL>
PL> Doesn't make a difference to the test, as I carefully
PL> stated that both were written to the same drive (HPFS), and
PL> that a first run was done to fill the cache so that there
PL> will be no difference due to caching.
No, it make *NO* difference to the test of both drives under OS/2, but
it *DOES* make it *IMPOSSIBLE* to compare your figures to those
obtained using a DOS FAT file system HDD!
What your tests indicate is that, under OS/2, a SCSI CD-ROM is just as
good as the AT-bus CD-ROM (the 10% speed difference was, as you said, in
the better spex on the Toshiba drive)... while you haven't changed or
challenged the view that under DOS the AT-bus drive still rules!
PL> > What does PC Labs Bench 7.0 say about the Disk Harmonic of the
PL> > Seagate SCSI drive??
PL>
PL> Don't know; will have to boot DOS to find out I suppose.
PL> But again, the SCSI HD is a constant. When doing
PL> experiments, it doesn't matter what a factor is as long as
PL> it's constantt for both.
Yes, for the comparison between to two drives ON THE ONE MACHINE.... I
cannot add your data to what I have done under DOS!
PL> > What SCSI controller?? What bus??
PL>
PL> Adaptec 1542b, ISA bus. This should minimise processor
PL> differences (which in this case doesn't apply anyway).
Well, I used exactly the same (OK, so it was a 1540B, but who's looking!)
h/a and bus in my tests earlier....
PL> > This is the type of result I expected out of the NEC 74-1 tests I
PL> > did...
PL>
PL> Then why did you say the AT style CD-ROM readers were faster than
PL> the SCSI ones?
Because *ACTUALS* showed the AT-bus performed the pants off the SCSI
CD-ROM drives!
PL> > You also have the situation where it is possible for the SCSI
PL> > CD-ROM to transfer DIRECTLY to the SCSI HDD... I'd really like
PL> > to know if that's the way things go under OS/2....
PL>
PL> That is possible, even desirable, but only one device can
PL> be active on the SCSI bus at the one time. In theory, the
PL> Panasonic can be read while writing is being done to HD,
PL> whereas the Toshiba must be read, then HD write takes
PL> place. If anything, it would mean that the AT ROM would
PL> have an advantage here. Don't know if that happens though.
What I described was what one of Adaptec's engineers said was the
primary asset of the SCSI system! (Provided it was implemented!)
PL> > I think I'm getting my AHA1540B back next week, with a 300Mb SCSI
PL> > HDD.... I'll hook the NEC 55 I have up too and give it a whirl!
PL>
PL> The 55 is a slow drive, compared to the 74-1 and 84-1.
Only slow on avg access! But I may just be able to snag a *NEW* 74-1
for a few days (the NT integration boys have just bought some!)....
PL>
PL> > Interesting results! Definitely gives food for thought if the user
PL> > will be doing CD-ROM work under OS/2.....
PL>
PL> Ok, I'll look forwards to your test results preferably with
PL> the same HW but under DOS. Remember to maintain constants
PL> (same machine, same HD, fill cache, fill a directory then
PL> delete all files, etc).
Of course!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4676
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 10/05/93 9:52p
Subj: Os/2 Cd-Rom Support Refer: NONE
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Hi Brice!
On 09-30-93 Brice Fleckenstein wrote to Bob Jackson...
BF> >uses some other standard interface like IDE
BF>
BF> I don't know of ANY IDE interface CD-ROM drives - and due
BF> to the limitations of that interface, I'd have to SEE such
BF> a drive to believe it exists (unless
BF> Mountain or Micro Solutions comes out with it)....
*SOME* idiot in one of the CD-ROM mfrs started calling the non-SCSI
proprietary interface IDE, because the "controller" *IS* on the drive,
just like an IDE HDD.... The interface also uses the same 40 way cable
as IDE HDDs do.....
So, yes, there are "IDE" CD-ROMs around but, (*BIG BUT*) they aren't
(and *NEVER* will be) compatible with a HDD iDE interface!
Plus every "IDE" CD-ROM mfr puts their own "wrinkles" into the drive
or h/a or connector, so *NONE* of the so-called "IDE" CD-ROM drives
will co-exist with another mfrs "IDE" CD-ROM drive! 8^(
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4677
To: STEVE STEWART Date: 10/05/93 10:17p
Subj: Encylopedia CD Refer: NONE
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Hi Steve!
On 10-02-93 Steve Stewart wrote to All...
SS> Looking for a real good Encyclopedia CD with full motion
SS> video in it. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Software Toolworks/Groliers Multimedia Encyclopaedia would be
the best & the cheapest! It uses the runtime version of Microsoft
Video for Windows and has better clips (IMHO) than MS's Encarta.
Cheers!
o
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From: PATRICK FITZGERALD Number: 4678
To: ALL Date: 10/04/93 6:26a
Subj: Thanks Refer: NONE
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Thanks for the replies to my query thet were most helpful
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From: RUSSELL HARDIE Number: 4679
To: SAM BECKWITH Date: 10/04/93 6:53p
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale Refer: NONE
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SB> NIGHT OWL 10 (10/93, BBS Ready)..............................$32.00
SB> NIGHT OWL BUSINESS ROM (8/93, BBS Ready).....................$30.00
SB> NIGHT OWL GAMES ROM (10/93, BBS Ready).......................$22.00
SB> NIGHT OWL GRAPHICS ROM (8/93, BBS Ready).....................$27.00
Do you know what the duplication between these 4 discs is?
Or, does anyone out there reading this know?
Thanks.
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From: RUSSELL HARDIE Number: 4680
To: CHRIS WISE Date: 10/04/93 9:03p
Subj: 7th Guest Refer: NONE
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CW> First, what do you have your sound buffer set to in your
CW> config.sys.(Should be set to about 25 or higher). Might want to try
CW> that, I kept
CW> getting a sound buffer overflow and I changed it to 40 and the
CW> problemstopped.
How would I set my sound buffer higher? The relevant lines of my present
CONFIG.SYS are:
DEVICEHIGH /L:1,5264 =C:\SB16\DRV\ASP.SYS /P:220
DEVICE=C:\SB16\DRV\SBCD.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:220 /T:1
DEVICEHIGH /L:1,55168 =C:\WINDOWS\MOUSE.SYS /Y
Thanks.
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From: QUINN LARKIN Number: 4681
To: JASON SUTTLE Date: 10/04/93 4:14p
Subj: Re: Sequel to The 7th Guest Refer: NONE
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>I was just wondering if anyone out there has heard anything about the
>sequel to The 7th Guest being out, or coming out soon. I talked to Graeme
>Devine (lead programmer) at Trilobyte Software a few months ago, and he
>said they were shooting to release the sequel between Sept. and Dec. Any
>info would be most appreciated.
From what I've heard it's going to be called The 11th Hour and will only be
playable on a MPC2 spec machine. (Jeez My Computers out of date already -
Dont ya hate it when that happens?)
-Quinn Larkin-
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From: QUINN LARKIN Number: 4682
To: ALL Date: 10/04/93 4:18p
Subj: Rebel Assult Refer: NONE
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Please! Someone must know when this is due out? Go on you can tell - We're all
friends here! :)
-Quinn Larkin-
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From: DON PUGH Number: 4683
To: ROBERT FROST Date: 10/04/93 7:26a
Subj: Unknown NightowlCD Refer: NONE
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Hello Robert,
RF> I was wondering if anyone could help me, with
RF> this CD i've got. It says Night Owl's , instead
RF> of just nightowl.Is this an imitation, or just a
RF> mistake? The CD was made in 1990 and it's number
RF> is PDSI-002-1.
RF>
RF> Robert Frost, Lodestone BBS, NSW, Australia .
RF> Sysop: Ian Mcwhirter.
It's an early night owl, number 2, and shows how NOwl has progressed in its
expertise. The new ones are so much tidier.
Best Regards Don
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From: POE LIM Number: 4684
To: PETER BOSTOCK Date: 10/06/93 12:09a
Subj: Cd Rom Info Refer: NONE
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Hello Peter,
On Oct 03 10:36 in a msg to All, Peter Bostock of 3:640/821 wrote:
> would be for speed or data transfer (I run OS/2 2.1 and have heard
That'll decide matters; if you don't want to have to do funny workarounds to
install OS/2 from CD-ROM (and the CD install takes 25% of the time the floppy
install would take, as well as extra Ultimotion clips), go SCSI. There are
drivers available for the SB AT bus, which works well, but to get that first CD
install is not easy.
> How do you connect the drive, sound card together? Does the CD-ROM
> have both sound jacks as well as a data bus connection (AT or SCSI)
Internal drivers have a cable (or facility for a cable) that you can connect to
the sound card, SCSI or AT makes no difference.
Cheers,
Poe
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From: PAUL COLLIER Number: 4685
To: ERIC RICHARD Date: 10/05/93 2:34a
Subj: Re: CD_ROM's Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Eric Richard to All <=-
ER> Hi! I'm looking for good CD_ROM disks to run for my BBS, please leave
ER> me all the info I need to purchase some cd's, thanks.
ER> Eric Richard
Night Owl CD-ROMS are good....so are SDN plus and PC-SIG. When looking for
a cdrom for your bbs, make sure it has the files.bbs or similar. Hope this
helps 8-)
BFN......Paul
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From: ROBERT STEPHENS Number: 4686
To: STEVE GERWECK Date: 10/02/93 9:48p
Subj: Busty Babes Refer: NONE
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SG> -=> Quoting Paul Collier to Pat Rickerson <=-
SG>
SG> PC> I wasn't saying it's a bad place to live (no smiley so I take it
SG> PC> you're serious) I'm just saying that $US450 is a little rich for a cd
SG> PC> that you can get here for $A65. Have you seen "The Adult Reference
SG> PC> Library" ? Not a bad disc, just in case you're hunting around for some
SG> PC> good stuff 8-)
SG>
SG> What is $A65 in American money??? :)
Currently the australian dollar buys about 67cents US. Which works out
approx $43 american.
-Robert
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From: ROBERT STEPHENS Number: 4687
To: TERRY MENZIES Date: 10/02/93 10:04p
Subj: Re: CR562B CD-ROM Drive. Refer: NONE
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RE> TM> I contacted a guy the other day in response to an magazine add
RE> TM> for an Panasonic CD-Rom Drive for $AUS399.95
RE> TM>
RE> TM> I called him for specs etc and they follow......
RE> TM>
RE> TM> Panasonic 562
RE> TM> Internal
RE> TM> Double speed
RE> TM> Kodak Multi Session
RE> TM> Transfer rate=300kb/s
RE> TM> Access time=320 ms
RE> TM> 680-690 capacity
RE> TM>
RE> TM> Note that he called it **562**, Would those specs fit the Cr-562-b?
RE> TM> The Drive requires an $50 controller card to work with the SB-Pro,
RE> TM> or it will work via direct CD-Drive -> Amplifier if no SB is there.
I gave Osborne a call the other day and they sell the panasonic cr562
with controller for $385 inc tax.
-Robert
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From: ROBERT STEPHENS Number: 4688
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 10/02/93 10:44p
Subj: SB WITH NEC DOUBLE SPIN Refer: NONE
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BF>
BF> Likely a limitation of the test program used, in combination with
BF> a somewhat larger buffer on the drive - SAME sort of results that
BF> CoreTest will give on a drive or controller with a large buffer. The
BF> 563 appears to be a nice drive, but the SUSTAINED DTR is the same as
BF> the NEC 74 - if you transfer SMALL chunks of data many times (256K
BF> or less) the Panasonic will APPEAR to be a lot faster, as you're
BF> actually reading the BUFFER rather than the data on disc after the
BF> first read....
I believe this is called the burst transfer rate....
-Robert
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From: ROBERT STEPHENS Number: 4689
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 10/02/93 10:47p
Subj: Re: SB PRO OR SB 16 Refer: NONE
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RE> Hi Again Chris!
RE>
RE> On 09-26-93 Chris Zito wrote to Ashwin Bihari...
RE>
RE> CZ> Whoa, wait up! Why are you only looking at Creative Labs products?
RE> CZ> The Pro Audio Spectrum 16 is an excellent SCSI card at an excellent
RE> CZ> price. ASP is just Advanced Signal Processing (a data compression
RE> CZ> engine) which has little or no support as of today. What's even
RE> CZ> better is the Gravis Ultrasound.
RE>
RE> This is the fourth msg you've posted trashing people who've bought/are
RE> buying SB 16 cards....
RE>
RE> Are you a one man crusade against Creative Labs?? <g>
I hate Creative Labs myself, for owning a sbpro for over a year and
getting a PAS-16 the difference in sound is phoenominal.
RE> BTW, the PAS 16 only has a polled, 68Kbps SCSI-1 SCSI host adapter...
RE> Adequate for a CD-ROM drive, but hardly what I'd call an "Excellent"
RE> SCSI card....
Well, its 680Kb a sec... Its well suited to its intended purpose.
RE> CZ> The "GUS" has:
RE> CZ>
RE> CZ> 1) 32 digital stereo wavetable voices (the kind the $500 Roland cards
RE>
RE> Optional on an SB 16 - get a Wave Blaster....
Nothing for the PAS-16, I guess the XL is the only option :(
RE> CZ> 2) 16 bit 44.1 khz stereo playback. 8 bit 44.1 khz stereo record.
RE>
RE> SB 16 ASP has 16 bit 44.1 kHz stereo record *AND* playback.....
The PAS-16 has far superior recording and mixing capabilities than the
SB16.
RE> CZ> 3) SCSI optional add-on card or 16 bit record add-on card
RE>
RE> One's never appeared (the SCSI add-on) and the other's already on the SB!
RE>
RE> CZ> 4) 3D sound capability
I believe this is called "Enhanced" on the PAS-16, and it sounds
great!
RE> ??
RE>
RE> CZ> 5) General MIDI compatibility
RE>
RE> Same.....
Hasn't just about every sound card available got this...
RE>
RE> CZ> 6) SB Software support (thru SBOS, a SB emulation program)
RE>
RE> Native SB Pro and OPL3 drivers... none of this emulation cr*p....
The PAS-16 has Yamaha OPL-3, but only hardware SB (mono) em. Pity it
has this, I feel a lot of games writers dont bother specifically
supporting the PAS-16 and just use the SB emulation, when the PAS-16
is a million times better.
RE> CZ> 7) Native GUS support
RE>
RE> Who wants it??
Agree...
RE> CZ> 8) $199 list price, $129 street price
RE>
RE> Cheap to con suckers like you into buying one.....
Heh, who bought a SB16 ?
RE>
RE> Have a nice day!
You too.
-Robert
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From: BEN SHIELDS Number: 4690
To: ALL Date: 10/03/93 12:56p
Subj: Multi session? Refer: NONE
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Hi ALL,
this will probably sound like a dumb question and has also probably
been answered before but could someone tell me what multisession means and if
it is worth having it on a CD-rom drive as I am considering buying a CD-rom and
want a cheap one (Huh).
The cheapest one I have seen is from Epoch Systems and its description
goes like this :
CD-ROM Drive , Includes controller, Photo CD, Multisession
350 ms access
$399.95
Does anyone out there know of a better deal ? I wan't teh CD-Rom only
for the GREAT file capacity ! and I only have a Thunder Board sound card (NOt
looking to upgrade either, Well atleast until GUS drops in price anyway!)
I know I am asking alot but I know Little on CD-Rom technolgy and would
be evergratefull!
Thanking you In advance ! BYeager.
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From: STEPHEN RANSON Number: 4691
To: ALL - AUSTRALIAN READERS Date: 10/06/93 3:39a
Subj: Night Owl 10 In Aus!! Refer: NONE
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Be one of the First to have the latest in the Night Owls series.
And at an excellent Price!
The Australian CD-ROM Club is now taking orders for Night Owl 10, which
will arrive in country next week. Club Members price is $59.40. Non
members please call FREE (008) 811190 to Join to take advantage of this
and title and the other excellent services of the Australain CD-ROM Club.
Stephen Ranson
Australian CD-ROM Club
Voice (008) 811190, Fax (06) 2914591
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From: PAUL NIXON Number: 4692
To: ALL Date: 10/06/93 7:30a
Subj: SHAREWARE CD's IN AUSTRALIA Refer: NONE
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Hi,
is there anyone in Australia preferably victoria, preferably close
to Lilydale who is looking to sell a fairly recent shareware cd?
If so can they please netmail me on one of the below addresses.
Paul Nixon.
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From: PAUL NIXON Number: 4693
To: ALL Date: 10/06/93 7:31a
Subj: 2 sHAREWARE CD's IN AUSTRALIA Refer: NONE
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Hi,
is there anyone in Australia preferably victoria, preferably close
to Lilydale who is looking to sell a fairly recent shareware cd?
If so can they please netmail me on one of the below addresses.
Paul Nixon.
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From: CHRIS ZITO Number: 4694
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 10/04/93 9:26p
Subj: Re: SB PRO OR SB 16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Rowan Evans to Chris Zito <=-
CZ> engine) which has little or no support as of today. What's even
CZ> better is the Gravis Ultrasound.
RE>
RE> This is the fourth msg you've posted trashing people who've
RE> bought/are buying SB 16 cards....
I wrote one message to express my dislike towards those haughty users who
enjoy bragging about their wonderful SB16's. People who don't act that way
should not be offended at all. <G>
RE> Are you a one man crusade against Creative Labs?? <g>
Creative Labs is not too creative, in putting together the most overpriced
pieces of cr*p. Tacking old FM technology (OPL3) onto the latest digital
audio sampling was real smart, doncha think?
>>>>COMMENT: Creative Labs is pushing out their SB16 pretty hard aren't they?
Especially when the OPL4 wavetable chips are about to be released!
RE> BTW, the PAS 16 only has a polled, 68Kbps SCSI-1 SCSI host adapter...
RE> Adequate for a CD-ROM drive, but hardly what I'd call an "Excellent"
RE> SCSI card....
True, that is why I prefer to buy my SCSI cards separately.
CZ> The "GUS" has:
CZ>
CZ> 1) 32 digital stereo wavetable voices (the kind the $500 Roland cards
RE>
RE> Optional on an SB 16 - get a Wave Blaster.... <--( Has NO SUPPORT )
Add $169 for a Wave Blaster... or buy a GUS for $199... or even better yet,
wait for the new OPL4 cards to come out next year. Wait a minute, have you
actually heard "wavetable" audio? If you have, you would think it should be
mandatory, not optional. And oh, an SB16ASP + Waveblaster costs almost as
much as a Turtle Beach Multisound <-Best MIDI Card to date.
CZ> 2) 16 bit 44.1 khz stereo playback. 8 bit 44.1 khz stereo record.
RE>
RE> SB 16 ASP has 16 bit 44.1 kHz stereo record *AND* playback.....
Recording at 16 bit stereo 44.1 kHz takes up a hell of a lotta room, doncha
think? 16 bit playback is good enough for me.
CZ> 3) SCSI optional add-on card or 16 bit record add-on card
RE>
RE> One's never appeared (the SCSI add-on) and the other's already on the
RE> SB!
A) Most people will never use 16 bit 44.1 khz record.
B) Why not just buy a SCSI card separately?
C) Why, last time I heard, SB16 doesn't even support SCSI!
CZ> 4) 3D sound capability
RE>
RE> ??
Focal Point 3-D sound is available on the GUS. 3-D sound is not possible on
an SB16 alone, and not probable either.
CZ> 5) General MIDI compatibility
RE>
RE> Same.....
Nope. Hmmm... Have you heard MIDI on an SB16? Hahahahaha!!! What a joke!
CZ> 6) SB Software support (thru SBOS, a SB emulation program)
RE>
RE> Native SB Pro and OPL3 drivers... none of this emulation cr*p....
SB MONO emulation sounds better on the GUS... in <STEREO>!
CZ> 7) Native GUS support
RE>
RE> Who wants it??
Those DOOM players and those Jetfighter players who want 3-D sound. The GUS
has attracted a majority of amateur MIDI musicians, too!
CZ> 8) $199 list price, $129 street price
RE>
RE> Cheap to con suckers like you into buying one.....
Well, a sucker like me's got a better sound card at a better price!
RE> Have a nice day!
You too! SUCKER!
C-ya
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From: CHRIS ZITO Number: 4695
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 10/04/93 9:34p
Subj: Re: Panasonic 562b + Sb Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Rowan Evans to Chris Zito <=-
RE> Ok, but I think the samples in STW Encyclopaedia under reference are
RE> still only MONO samples (I will take correction on this! <g>)....
I think they are, too!
RE> uncertain memory.... As to speakers, true... I'm still looking for a
RE> decent set!
Labtec makes some pretty good speakers.
RE> I bought the SB 16 ASP to control the Panasonic CR562B I had bought
RE> earlier... As far as I was concerned, I wanted something similar to
RE> the PAS 16 that controlled a SONY CDU-31A... That ruled out the
RE> cheaper SB Pro 2, and left the 16 & 16 ASP... As the ASP version was
RE> only a few dollars more, I bought it......
I understand.
RE> The other factor was the number of slots available to me.... I had to
RE> get CD-ROM control and sound in ONE slot... Thus the SB 16 ASP.....
Hmmm... I see your point.
RE> But it records *NICELY* off an audio CD.....
I rather just play an audio CD, than waste hard drive space.
CZ> ... Ultrasound, $129, 16 bit 44khz playback, 32 stereo wavetable
CZ> voices
RE> Ah Ha! We now see where you're coming from!
Ahh... I see you've dealt with our kind before! You should here the SB PRO
users whine now.
Note: I am not demeaning SB16 users. I'm just promoting a cheaper and what I
think is a better alternative, the Gravis Ultrasound.
... Reality-ometer: [\........] Hmmph! Thought so...
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From: CHRIS ZITO Number: 4696
To: SCOTT DAVIS Date: 10/04/93 9:36p
Subj: Re: 16-BIT SOUND CARDS Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Scott Davis to Kevin Donald <=-
SD> I had a Gravis but traded it on a PAS-16.. The Gravis was SLOW in SB
SD> mode.. it ate up processor cycles so bad, on a 386sx/25 w/6 megs of
SD> ram, I could NOT pla Wing Commander unless I turned off SB support.. a
SD> problem I've never had with any other card..
Hmmm... not too many people still have a "classic" 386sx-25 anymore,
especially with 486's prices dropping and all.
... Tag line thievery ... On the next Geraldo!
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From: SOL-LOTARR Number: 4697
To: ALL Date: 10/05/93 1:16p
Subj: CD-Rom Refer: NONE
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Hi Guys...I have a Soundblaster Pro and I would like to know which CD-Rom is
compatable with the card...I appreicate any help on the subject. BTW I am
looking for something under $350 but am willing to pay more. Bye
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From: DOUG ROWAN Number: 4698
To: ALL Date: 10/05/93 7:37p
Subj: HELP WITH CHINON Refer: NONE
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I have a Chinon CD Rom Model # CDS-431
I do not have a controller nor do I know what type of controller
it takes, if anyone knows about this drive or has one I would
appreciate any info, Thanks in advance!
Doug
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From: CHRIS WISE Number: 4699
To: CHRIS SNYDER Date: 10/04/93 8:07p
Subj: DAY OF THE TENTACLE Refer: NONE
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Chris Snyder wrote
----------------------------------------
>>Does this mean you're selling it or what? If you're selling it I'm
>>interested.
If he is not, I am selling mine. What type of offer do you have in
mind. I am open to trades also.... currently looking for CA-Realizer
(basic programming) package for windows.
Lee Christopher Wise
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From: TIM CANFIELD Number: 4700
To: CARL SCHULTZ Date: 10/05/93 9:47p
Subj: Ackqment Refer: NONE
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Thanks... I did find the way to pass the boling water... And now am
about to finishh this Kings Q 6...
Thanks again... Where are some other places you seen me? I don't get
around much.. unless this alias is no good..
Thanks - Candid Kid out..
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From: MARK ABBACCHI Number: 4701
To: DAVE CLARK Date: 10/05/93 8:23a
Subj: CD-ROM Review: Tech Arsenal 1/2 Refer: NONE
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Hello Dave!
In a message to All Users <10/03/93> Dave Clark wrote:
DC> The Following is a CD-ROM "review." The opinions expressed belong
DC> solely to Dave Clark, Sysop of Arsenal Computer BBS.
DC>
DC> ]]] TITLE: Tech Arsenal
DC> ]]] SIZE: 629 Megs
DC> ]]] FILES: 7441
DC> ]]] PUBLISHER: Arsenal Computer
DC> ]]] CATEGORY: Shareware/BBS Ready/End User Ready
DC> ]]] DATED: 09-03-93
DC>
DC> No, you are not seeing things.... we here at the Arsenal really DID
DC> publish this disc! <smile!> However, lest you think that I'm going
DC> to be self serving here, let me emphasize one thing... I always offer
DC> a money back guarantee on any disc that I sell, and of course, my
DC> stuff is going to be given the same treatment... <smile!> I'm going
I always try to give folks who review disks in the echo mail pats on the
back...however, when one "reviews" a product of someone elses labor,
it is customary in any medium; press, echo mail, television, radio etc, that
the reviewer point out the bad points AND the good points of a product.
Unfortunately, you seem to want to only place the BAD things in your
reviews... EXCEPT, well, this title of your own looks kinda rosy on the
review side.
I saw your review of The Hacker Chronicles, The Shareware Explorer and
many others. I would think that your point in reviewing a product would
be to give both feedback to the producer so they may improve on their
weak points and feel good about their strong points and strive to make
their product the best on the market. HOWEVER, you use statements like
... good thing my system isn't voice activated... when referring to your
wife attempting to use the install on the Shareware Explorer. In
the Hacker Chronicles case, the disk sells VERY well to those who are
curious about this "underground cult" of computer "enthusiasts". OK... so
what they are doing is illegal, but so was what Charles Manson did...
DID YOU READ HELTER SKELTER???? or if not, does that make any one who
did "evil" as you put it...
DC> to give this the same going over that I do any other disc, and I'm going
DC> to be just as frank as I would for anyone else. I don't play favorites
DC> here.
Yeah... ok... anyone who reads your previous two reviews on the Explorer
or the Chronicles and then reads the review of your own disk is gonna
say.... gosh, he's soooooo impartial, come on Dave.
DC> Of course, let's face one fact... why in the h*ll would I make a disc
DC> that I would have to trash? <SEG!>
Or, in other words... Why in the h*ll would I trash a disc that I have
to make?
DC> else's product, so I know what goes, and what doesn't, and I designed
DC> my disc accordingly.
Meaning... by looking at the text below, you know how to make the
utopian disk? You have an explanation for any item that MIGHT bother
someone, such as why weren't the older files removed... They're
AGELESS???? hmmmmmm if you say so. BUT, at least you have a chance to
answer your own criticisms, before the world sees your review, so you
don't leave it to luck for someone to think their is a negative issue
about your disk.
DC>
DC> So, with that out of the way, here goes.
DC>
DC> Tech Arsenal deals solely with technical subjects, such as programming
DC> utilities and source code, Local Area Networking, dBase programming and
DC> applications, Anti-Virus utilities, Text & Hex Editors, Caching, Testing
DC> and Diagnostics, Drivers, Backup & Data Recovery, Computer Aided Design,
DC> Desqview & QEMM, and even HAM radio & Scanner material is covered on
DC> this disc.
DC>
DC> File dates are from September 1993 to 1990 on source code (due to the
DC> fact that, by and large, source code is "ageless") and the programs
DC> have dates ranging from September 1993 to 1991. However, please bear
DC> in mind that if a filedate is 1991 or 1992, then it's because no later
DC> version was found.
DC>
DC> Dupliacation of filenames was kept to a strict minimum. Why not
DC> entirely gone, you might ask? Simply put, I found some duplicate
DC> filenames in two areas, with files that had NOTHING to do with each
DC> other, and in some cases, there were utilities that really did have
DC> application in multiple file areas, such as a programming utility that
DC> would be used in C/ASM, Basic, and Pascal... so it appeared in each
DC> section, rather than making the people interested only in one section
DC> have to go "hunting" for it in others. These files are on there
DC> quite intentionally to make it easier to use. However, the percentage
DC> of such files is VERY small.
If you had found this to be the case on ANY other disk would it have
been explained the same way? If this would be the case on a Night Owl,
or Pier product.... oh my gosh.. there would be a SHARK FEEDING FRENZY
here. But on your disk... well, it was intentional. hmmmmm
DC>
DC> BBS readiness is very apparent (go figure!). File listings are provided
DC> in PCBoard, Spitfire, and QBBS formats, with a Database of the file
DC> Descriptions available on the disc as well, so that you can create your
DC> own very easily, if you so desire. All but the DBF files are available
DC> in both the referenced file subdirectory, and in a separate file
DC> subdirectory. The "all in one" setup allows door users (such as myself)
DC> ease of use, while the file listings in each directory means that those
DC> that either with to run "native" (with the disc directly accessed by the
DC> BBS) or those with specific conversion utilities, such as TBBS SysOps,
DC> are not left out in the cold.
DC>
DC> The subdirectory structure is quite simple, with the files contained in
DC> subdirectories named TEK-01 through TEK-21. The File listings are in
DC> /FILELIST, and the information for SysOps is contained in the
DC> subdirectory /SYSOPS. Simple enough, eh? <Grin!>
DC>
DC> Some additonal note should be paid to the user interface on this...
DC> in a rather "unusual" move, the user interface was not the usual
DC> program that people have come to expect, but the EZRom Door interface,
DC> as written by Mike Robinson. Mike's door program, run in local mode,
DC> provides a very quick search engine and a very easy way to transfer
DC> the files to your hard drive for use. It is easily the fastest
DC> CD-ROM based search engine that I have seen, and I hope that the
DC> exposure that the Shareware version of this program generates will
DC> help Mike in getting more BBS registrations for his excellent product.
Are we reviewing here, or advertising? If we're advertising, there is a
line limit and you might want to contact the moderator about it...
if reviewing... is this impartial to a product you manufactured?
To sum up, I am sure you have an EXCELLENT product my friend... I am
sure that you are very proud of your product... just as many of the
others in this echo are of their own. You of all people should know how
long it takes to put a disk together... your criticisms should be
balanced... you should let people know the GOOD AND BAD points of a
product. If you can't find ANYTHING EITHER WAY... GOOD OR BAD, then why
review it... but I for one would rather see impartial, constructive
Continued to next message....
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From: DAVID ROBERTS Number: 4702
To: BRUCE WILSON Date: 10/05/93 11:41a
Subj: Re: 7th guest? Refer: NONE
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BW> Just to follow up
BW> config.sys:
BW>
BW> DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS
BW> DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE 128 M9
BW> DEVICEHIGH=C:\PAS16\MVSOUND.SYS D:3 Q:7
BW> DEVICEHIGH=C:\CDROM\NECCDR.SYS /D:NECCD
BW> DOS=HIGH,UMB
BW> Lastdrive=g
BW> files=20
BW> buffers=20
BW> stacks=0,0
BW>
BW>
BW> autoexec.bat:
BW> LH C:\CDROM\MSCDEX /D:NECCD /L:G /M:50 /E
BW> LH C:\MOUSE\MOUSE.COM
BW> PROMPT $G$GCDR*$P$G
BW> PATH=C:\;C:\DOS;C:\CDROM;C:\PAS16
BW> mem
BW>
BW> This works for me leaves 577k available base memory
Ever thought about trying QEMM? It would easily boost your available
memory to over 600K... easily.
... The Homeboy Shopping Network - Where Everything is For Sale!!!
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From: JOSEPH THOMAS Number: 4703
To: RODOLFO VAZ Date: 10/06/93 7:29a
Subj: Os/2 mitsumi driver Refer: NONE
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RV> this is the american driver, right ? Is it working fine to you ?
RV> I have heard that german driver is better ... and I'd like more opinions
RV> on american driver ...
RV> []s Rodolfo Vaz
yes, the new driver seems to work. IT has audio also.
I think the price is $20.00 + shipping.
There is another driver from Micro Tech is out, which sells
for $49.00, and seems to work.
As to which is better, I cant say for sure, I have tried the German
beta version, not the final commercial version. Thanks.
Joe T.
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From: WALTER CHISENSKI Number: 4704
To: COREY BICCUM Date: 10/05/93 7:34p
Subj: Re: 7th guest? Refer: NONE
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Yeah, if you take up the room on your video card the game will run pretty
slow. I know a guy down at a local shop here who says he runs The 7th Guest on
a 256K video card. He says it works, but does run slow. How far have you
gotten on the game? How many rooms have you solved? Let me know! Thanks--
Walter Chisenski
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From: WALTER CHISENSKI Number: 4705
To: COREY BICCUM Date: 10/05/93 7:37p
Subj: Re: terminate and cdroms? Refer: NONE
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That's great! How do you like Terminate vs. Telix or Qmodem?? I think it
has all the fetures PLUS! I don't think I would go back to Telix UNLESS I run
in to some major bugs or something like that. Have you registered you copy
yet? If not do you get the very noisy msg. that says "PLEASE REGISTER
TERMINATE"?? I hate that msg! Let me know---and I'm glad you got it to run.
Walter Chisenski
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From: STEVE GOYER Number: 4706
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 10/04/93 8:36a
Subj: Re: Oem Refer: NONE
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BJ> SG> Can someone tell me what OEM is (or stands for)?
BJ> ^^^
BJ>Original Equipment Manufacturer. Means who actually MADE the thing, not
BJ>necessarily who markets it (perhaps under a different name).
Oh, ok. Thanks. I've just been seeing so much of it lately that I figured it
might be a good idea if I knew what it was :-)
c'ya
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From: STEVE GOYER Number: 4707
To: ALL Date: 10/05/93 8:37a
Subj: Panasonic 562B Refer: NONE
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I am looking for prices from Canadian dealers for a Panasonic drive that will
work with my SB16 (perhaps the 320ms, 300kb drive).
Thanks.
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From: STEVE GOYER Number: 4708
To: JOHN COLEMAN Date: 10/05/93 8:38a
Subj: testing 1 2 Refer: NONE
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JC>Testing to see if we are cconnected yet!!!
No, you are not connected.
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From: THOMAS NIETFELD Number: 4709
To: ALL Date: 10/05/93 11:51a
Subj: OED wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for a used copy of the Oxford English Dictionary on CD-ROM. It
can be the first edition since I probably cant afford the 2nd edition.
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From: KEN BACHMAN @ 930/1 Number: 4710
To: COREY BICCUM Date: 10/06/93 7:46p
Subj: Re: CDROM games Refer: NONE
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CB> What are some good CDROM games? With lot of talking and stuff. Pleas
CB> say 7th guest. .yuk!
CB> thanx
Day of the Tentacle, LOOM, and Secret of Monkey Island are pretty good
ones. SMI does not talk but is a good game despite that.
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From: JOHNNY SWINDLE Number: 4711
To: WEE YUNG Date: 10/06/93 7:13p
Subj: Cdrom Titles Forsale Refer: NONE
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Mr Worf, Hail WEE YUNG. We must discuss "CDROM titles for sale."
Could you give me a little additional information of the following Cd's?
W Y> DTP Pro FM - Wave Clip-art.....
W Y> Essential home & bus. shareware
For example, the DTP Pro FM -Wave Clip-art.......type of clip art,
color, B&W, catagories of clip art, etc.
Essential home & bus. shareware could you give examples of the types of
shareware....Windows or DOS, etc...
Thanks!!
Transmission complete Captain.
Johnny Swindle
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From: JOHNNY SWINDLE Number: 4712
To: GLENN LOFTUS Date: 10/06/93 7:17p
Subj: Re: 7th Guest? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Mr Worf, Hail GLENN LOFTUS. We must discuss "Re: 7th guest?."
G L>I downloaded an update from GEnie so that it only requires 450K
G L>of conventional memory to run. The update also improved support
G L>for the SB16ASP sound card I'm using.
G L>
G L>Look for T7GFIX3.ZIP and T7GF3B.ZIP on a board near you.
G L> --Glenn...
Hey,
Would you be interested in mailing a copy of that file to us poor
computer nerds here in Japan? If you are, then file of a letter (or
disk) to the following address:
Johnny Swindle
432 MG
PSC 76 Box 7408
APO AP 96319-7408
All us military types here in Japan would appreciate it!
Thanks!
Transmission complete Captain.
Johnny Swindle
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From: JOHNNY SWINDLE Number: 4713
To: DEBBIE MARANTZ Date: 10/06/93 7:32p
Subj: Just Some File Stuff Refer: NONE
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Mr Worf, Hail DEBBIE MARANTZ. We must discuss "Just Some File Stuff."
D M>I logged on to Creative's BBS and while I was just touring around a
D M>came to me, this is a Global Echo and here on this side of the pond
D M>take the tech support for granted, so posted here are the lastest fi
D M>listings from Creative's BBS for SB and CD Rom support.
Thanks Debbie for the great listing from Creative Labs BBS!! To bad is
is really a "loooong distance phone call" for me!
Can't wait until I get back to the states!!
Thanks again!!
Transmission complete Captain.
Johnny Swindle
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From: EUGENE FEDOROWICH Number: 4714
To: ALL Date: 09/25/93 7:41a
Subj: Canadian Supplier Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for canadian suppliers of CD software products.
I have noticed quite a few American vendors but I think it may be easier to
deal with Canadian suppliers due to customs etc.
Please leave me mail here as to address etc.
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From: EUGENE FEDOROWICH Number: 4715
To: ALL Date: 09/25/93 7:44a
Subj: World Book Encyclopedia Refer: NONE
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I noticed a post a few days ago about the World Book Encyclopedia. Does anyone
have any information on this. Is it available? How much? Etc?
Thanks in advance.
Eugene Fedorowich
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From: EUGENE FEDOROWICH Number: 4716
To: ALL Date: 09/25/93 8:01a
Subj: CD Software reviews Refer: NONE
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I like the idea of software reviews of CD Software!!
I can say that Battlechess (CD Version of course) is absolutely excellent!!
My kids love the tutorial and though the playing ability isn't the greatest
it will be able to beat 95% of the people out there. The sound and graphics
are both superb!!
Well worth the money!
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From: EUGENE FEDOROWICH Number: 4717
To: ALL Date: 09/25/93 7:52a
Subj: Chessmaster 3000 Refer: NONE
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* Original msg to: All
Can anyone comment on the Cd version of Chessmaster 3000.What are the
differences or enhancements over the DOS or windows disk versions if any?
Does it have a larger game library? Any comments or observations appreciated.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4718
To: TAPANI TUOMINEN Date: 10/02/93 9:32a
Subj: Caddies Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TT>GP> TT>GP> ARGH! This awful, stupid cr*p of Windows and its non-compat
TT>GP> TT>GP> character set mapping junk again rears its ugly head. I sho
TT>GP> have guessed. :-(((
TT>we believe Microsoft. The truth is that Windows is here to stay.
That's probably quite true.
TT>Especially lots' of CD-ROM:s benefit of Windows.
Frankly, I personally consider much of that multimedia stuff on CD-ROMs
to be a "gee-whiz gadget". My main interest in it is still as a cheap,
reliable, computer-readable removable program-and-archive storage
medium.
TT>It is very hard for me to
TT>imagine how to use say DOS WP and some electronic reference libraries on
TT>CD:s together. With plain DOS it is simply extremely clumsy.
Yes, I suppose, but personally I use Windows 90% of the time as just a
simple task switcher for running text-mode applications. At the moment,
for example, I am running SLMR/SLME in one (full-screen) text-mode DOS
Window, and I have a second text-mode DOS window which I can switch to
on a moment's notice to bring up (for example) the Software Toolworks
Reference Library, or the Toolworks Encyclopedia, or the ProPhone
Telephone Directory disc set. I suspect that I could install (for
example) the DR-DOS task switcher (which in fact I've never even tried
to use) or the equivalent, and 90% of the time that would do what I
need.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4719
To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Date: 10/02/93 9:35a
Subj: Caddy-o-rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
[Pioneer 6-disc changer]
IA>> IA>Yes, you are exactly right. Infact I have the audio version on my
IA>> stereo system.
IA>> Right! And how much does the audio version of the drive cost?
IA>I have paid about $275 or 375 for it. TTYL
Exactly. See how Pioneer is ripping people off? The single-speed
version of that drive ought to cost about that same price, maybe $450 at
most... instead of almost twice that. That price is going to come down,
and fast... as soon as they get a little much-needed competition.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4720
To: TAPANI TUOMINEN Date: 10/02/93 9:38a
Subj: Caddy-o-rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TT>GP> TT>should have implemented CD:s with some sort of protective coverin
TT>GP> (like
TT>GP> TT>caddy) instead of plain disk when designing the CD-standard.
TT>GP> Why, if that "protective covering" clearly isn't needed?
TT>For example to write-protect rewritable CD:s by braking a notch in the
TT>caddy to prevent recording...
I wasn't talking about rewritable CDs (and neither was anybody else,
back when the CD standard was developed). I agree with you that a
write-protect hole would at least arguably be an advantage... but (truth
to tell) a switch on the front of the drive might be almost as good, and
better sometimes.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4721
To: TAPANI TUOMINEN Date: 10/02/93 9:41a
Subj: I want caddies Refer: NONE
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TT>GP> caddy-based drives, we can eliminate this divisive and nonstandard c
TT>GP> from the market. Just as we've gone a long way towards eliminating
TT>GP> copy-protection from mainstream software products.
TT>But unfortunately consumers are divided in this question very badly.;-)
TT>Now what kind of campaign could we have against European software
TT>prices...
The same way. Just refuse to buy overpriced European-distributed
software, just as you ought to refuse to buy caddy-based drives.
TT>I saved your message. We can get back on the topic in the year 2000 and
TT>check how much caddies are around.
Please do! :-)
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4722
To: DON KULHA Date: 10/02/93 9:48a
Subj: Conspiracy Fu Refer: NONE
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DK> GP> If it ain't broken, don't fix it. CDs work JUST FINE without caddies.
DK> It clearly isn't necessary....millions of music players and probably
DK>million consumer data drives are spinning merrily along pleasing the heck ou
DK>of their users.
They would by and large be JUST as pleased without the stupid caddies.
DK> The new small rewriteable opticals do come in a cartridge and it's
And right THERE is the difference, there the disc COMES IN the carrier,
rather like a 3.5" diskette does (and there the whole shebang costing
less than a dollar each). How many people would be willing to put up
with 3.5" floppies if the plastic outer covering were sold separately,
for $5 each!??
The simple fact of the matter is that CD-ROMs are already damage
resistant, and it's no easier (in fact, it's harder) to put one into a
caddy than to put one directly into a caddyless drive.
If it ever got to the point that ALL CD-ROMs were to automatically come
in a caddy, at essentially NO increase in cost (haha) then you might
have a point. Don't hold your breath.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4723
To: ANDREW PAGE Date: 10/02/93 8:38p
Subj: BBS LISTING Refer: NONE
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AP>DS> I will be more than happy to advertise your BBS on Secure
AP>DS> Bacckups BBS. I will
AP>DS> even advertise it on a couple of BBS's that I regulary get
AP>DS> on in the San Diego,
AP>DS> CA area.
AP>Excuse me, but when you address to "sysop" in this area, you're writing to
AP>EVERY sysop in the USA that carries this echo.
...even here in France, too. :-)
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4724
To: TOM KASHUBA Date: 10/02/93 9:12p
Subj: Quest for Good CD-ROMs! Refer: NONE
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TK> Atlases (all those currently available) 0/5 - Save your money.
TK> .. Haven't seen any CD atlas that was worth the cost of its CD.
TK> .. All I've seen are pathetic, providing only crude world or
TK> .. continental maps with only 1 or 2 levels of zoom that only go
TK> .. as far as a whole state with little detail!
I agree, as far as the Software Toolworks World and US Atlas goes. But
take a look at the Global Explorer disc, or the US Street Atlas... both
are absolute marvels. Either one is (by itself) sufficient
justification for buying a CD-ROM drive.
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From: GERARD AUVRAY Number: 4725
To: ALL Date: 10/04/93 3:43p
Subj: Buy a cd rom ! Refer: NONE
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I will be in SAN DIEGO (CA) in mid October for a Congress (Computing in
Aerospace 9 in San Diego Princess Hotel).
I'll spend also one week of vacations in California and Arizona after
business activity !
I plan to buy a CD-ROM drive in the SAN DIEGO area. I'm looking for a
Panasonic 562, perhaps with a SB 16 ASP (I have a SB PRO). Could you
tell me where I can find a Computer Shop which sells this device (and at
which price !). Could you tell me also where to buy Cd-ROM's at good
prices ; I'm looking for Shareware CD-ROM, Encarta Encyclopedia and
other goodies you can tell me.
If you know good places in SAN DIEGO, LAS VEGAS,GRAND- CANYON area, for
sleeping, eating or entertainment, give me your bests informations
Best Regards GERARD
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From: MIKE MUNNELLY Number: 4726
To: BENNY FOSTER Date: 10/06/93 12:00a
Subj: Mitsumi and DOS 6.0? Refer: NONE
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BF> Its not with the Mitsumi CD-Rom but with Dos 6. There is a new version
BF> of Microsoft extensions (MSCDEX.EXE) that needs to be used. Under Dos
BF> 6, if you dont use the later mecdex.exe the unit will state incorrect
BF> dos version when it goes through the autoexec.bat file.
Yea, but a quick fix for that is to use setver. Works for me.
Mike
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From: DONNIE RAYNOR Number: 4727
To: ERNEST PRESSLEY Date: 10/06/93 6:51a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi CD-DRIVE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Ernest Pressley to Donnie Raynor <=-
EP> Will any Scsi controller work or do Mitsumi have a controller that
EP> allows multiple drives of there's on it. Is there a # to contact them
EP> so that i can ask them for Tech Help!!
EP> Ernest
EP> -!- GoldED 2.41
EP> ! Origin: The Viper's Den____|San Diego,Ca|____ Another Snake on F
EP> (1:202/342)
Ernest the phone number for Mitsumi Tech Support is 1-408-970-0700. I'm
sure they can answer your questions.
Later,
Donnie
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 4728
To: ALL Date: 10/06/93 6:57p
Subj: CD-ROM SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
***************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION ****************
NIGHT OWL 10
35.00 650+ Megabytes of Fully BBS Ready files
For a complete price list of CDs leave net-mail address or fax#!
Shipping is 5.00 up to 3 cds .50 each addition CA add 7.75% check/money
order in US funds payable to ADRIAN SALAS to: SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION
2434 EAST 32ND STREET, NATIONAL CITY CA 91950-7710 USA
■ QMPro 1.51 ■ ROM CONNECTION CD-SALES Voice 619-479-8688 10am-7pm PST
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From: CARL MOANS Number: 4729
To: STEVE GREENO Date: 10/02/93 12:02a
Subj: Cd-Rom Catalog Refer: NONE
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SG>FREE CD-ROM CATALOG
SG>OVER 200 TITLES
SG>$10.00 TO $50.00
SG>SEND TO:
SG>STEVE GREENO
SG>1275 E. PRINCE
SG>TUCSON AZ. 85719
SG>
I'd like to have a copy of that catalog.
Kevin May
1063 Bayner Rd
Baltimore, MD 21221
Thanks
Kevin
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From: VBALLNUT Number: 4730
To: TONY MARTIN Date: 10/06/93 11:13p
Subj: Re: Mad Dog McCree Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Tony Martin to All <=-
TM> I am considering buying the "Mad Dog McCree" CD based only on
TM> what I've seen in the arcade. Could someone please tell me what the
TM> game is like and whether it is worth buying it.
I don't have the game, but a friend of mine does and he LOVES it....can't
wait to get my own :-)
... Why look at the docs? The nurses look much better to me
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 4731
To: MARTY ESCARCEGA Date: 10/06/93 7:39a
Subj: Re: NO#10 $20 Refer: NONE
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> Ismail, when is Night Owl's 10 scheduled to be released? I'd like a copy.
> Is the cost $20?
Hi Marty,
Yes it is and should be in within few days. TTYL
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From: SCOTT DAVIS Number: 4732
To: ERNEST PRESSLEY Date: 10/06/93 1:09p
Subj: NO.. Refer: NONE
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SD> Sounds more like the LU-002S to me.. (Which I'm running under OS/2 2.1)..
EP>Will that allow two Mitsumi's on one card or do i have to get a card for ea
EP>cd-rom drive.
EP>Ernest
Nope.. the only way to do it is with 2 cards (1 for each drive..)
l8r,
Scott
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From: SCOTT DAVIS Number: 4733
To: BILL WOLFF Date: 10/06/93 1:09p
Subj: CD CARE Refer: NONE
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SD> Apparently you two haven't noticed that CD's (And thus CD-Rom's) have
SD> a layer plastic about 1/4 millimeter thick designed specifically to
SD> resist scratching and stuff.. if you take descent care of the disc, the
SD> little nicks and scratch normally won't affect it..
SD> (If you don't take care of it, the BIG scratches ruin it..)
BW>Well maybe I am all wet, but I thought the whole idea of the CD was
BW>that as long as laser light could bounce through the plastic, it
BW>will read correctly. Light still gets through scratches and even big
BW>scratches.
BW>There was fear at one time that oxidation would erode the metal
BW>coating. Although I never heard of this being a problem. Maybe if
BW>you bury it for awhile, it might happen. Who knows.
BW>BTW, I use to work for Philips for 8 years and spent a good amount
BW>of time in Holland. Although nothing to do with the CD-ROM
BW>technology except we used them on our computers.
I never heard of the oxidation bit.. interesting but unlikely.. and the reason
I said big scratches do cause errors is because, Yes light can go through, but
it gets scattered going both ways.. then the signal becomes a bit scrambled an
you end up with read errors..
l8r,
Scott
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From: SCOTT DAVIS Number: 4734
To: ERNEST PRESSLEY Date: 10/06/93 1:09p
Subj: MITSUMI CD-DRIVE Refer: NONE
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DR> I have a Mutsumi drive LU005S for sell. It has about two hours of run
DR> time on it. With manual, software, controller card and drive in box. I
DR> will ship to you for $165.00 I need a double speed drive. If interested
DR> leave me a message here.
EP>Will the Mitsumi drive controller handle more than one drive on it or do i
EP>have to keep buying controllers each time I add a Cd-rom!!
To clear this issue up, the mitsumi, and virtually all other brands of CD-Roms
that AREN'T SCSI, require a seperate card for each drive.. for the most part,
only SCSI drives allow daisy chaining..
l8r,
Scott
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From: SCOTT DAVIS Number: 4735
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 10/06/93 1:09p
Subj: MITSUMI # CRMC Refer: NONE
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AB>SUre man, you can hook up the CD-ROM to any 16 bit card and get real
AB>good music, I just
I think he was refering to the connector cable not the audio cable.. Yes the
audio can but I don't believe the interface cable can.. it can't on the SBPro.
l8r,
Scott
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From: TAMI THOMPSON Number: 4736
To: LON SEIDMAN Date: 10/07/93 5:24p
Subj: Walkthroughs and Flybys Refer: NONE
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Hi! I got this CD-ROM with a book by the same name. It is published by Waite
Group Press, has a list price of $29.95, and I got it at a Barnes and Nobel
(sp?) bookstore in Minneapolis, but would assume it is available at B Daltons
or Waldens. It is a nifty book/CD-ROM disc! -Tami
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From: DON RIEB Number: 4737
To: ALL Date: 10/07/93 12:19a
Subj: FREE CDROM CATALOG! Refer: NONE
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I have updated the catalog and it includes hardware for multimedia such as
sound cards and speakers. There is also a CDROM drive for $189 (350ms) with
interface card and 14.4k modems for $159. The printed catalog is ready now
and to those of you that inquired about it, you have been mailed a copy.
If there is seriouse CDROM shoppers out there that want a FREE catalog then
send me your name and address to 1:115/724 or log onto the SaveWare BBS at
708-724-2427. You may also freq CDROMCAT.ZIP from 1:115/724. Read the
sales letter to find out about the discount to FIDO CDROM conference users.
** Don Rieb **
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From: DON RIEB Number: 4738
To: ALL Date: 10/07/93 12:30a
Subj: CDROM drive $100 Refer: NONE
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I have a Internal HITACHI CDROM for sale for $100. It is the drive only,
no interface card. Terry Blount of this cdrom echo sells the cards and cables
for this drive. It has drive select switchs for 1-4 drives. It is a 600ms
drive. I will ship it to anyware in the US for free and you can use your VISA
or Mastercard if you wish. If interested call me 'Don' at 708-657-1160 or
send Email to 1:115/724. I will also ship it to you C.O.D., I would require
$4.00 extra for the C.O.D. fee.*
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From: DON RIEB Number: 4739
To: ALL Date: 10/07/93 12:34a
Subj: NEC 35 CDROM drive $199 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
If anyone is interesed in a ture SCSI drive that you can chain up to 7 drives
to a SCSI card then call me at 708-657-1160 or send E-Mail to 1:115/724.
These are the NEC 35 450ms SCSI portable external drives. They are
referbished drives and are at a exceptional price. You will need a SCSI
controller and cable to use the drive. They are great for Sysops that want to
chain a few of them onto there SCSI controller. If you are interested in
quantities then let me know how many you are interesed in and I will get back
with you on a price.
** Don Rieb **
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 4740
To: BOB JENKINS Date: 10/05/93 8:54p
Subj: Cd's Refer: NONE
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BJ>JL>Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective I $22.00
BJ>JL>Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective II $48.00
BJ>JL>Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective III $52.00
BJ>
BJ> Thanks Jim. Do these prices include P.H.?
Hi Bob. My shipping & handling charge is $4 per order. I can come down
to $20 plus S&H for volume 1. Give me a call if you are interested.
Computer Works Jim...
CD-Rom Sales!
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 4741
To: CAPTAIN JAMES T KIRK Date: 10/05/93 9:07p
Subj: CD-ROM for BBS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CJ>To whom it may concern,
CJ> I am now Co-SysOp of a BBS (StarLab BBS [819-56
CJ>and we have a CD-ROM, so after long hours of thinking it over (ok. may
CJ>minites but who's counting) we would like to buy BBS ready CD-ROM's an
CJ>appreciate any and all response.
Hello Fred. If you will post your address or give me a call, I'd be glad
to mail you our latest catalog. Thanks.
Computer Works Jim...
CD-Rom Sales!
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card & COD Orders
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From: BRUCE WILSON Number: 4742
To: DAVID ROBERTS Date: 10/06/93 12:00a
Subj: Re: 7th guest? Refer: NONE
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DR> BW> DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS
DR> BW> DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE 128 M9
DR> BW> DEVICEHIGH=C:\PAS16\MVSOUND.SYS D:3 Q:7
DR> BW> DEVICEHIGH=C:\CDROM\NECCDR.SYS /D:NECCD
DR> BW> DOS=HIGH,UMB
DR> BW> autoexec.bat:
DR> BW> LH C:\CDROM\MSCDEX /D:NECCD /L:G /M:50 /E
DR> BW> LH C:\MOUSE\MOUSE.COM
DR> BW> PROMPT $G$GCDR*$P$G
DR> BW> PATH=C:\;C:\DOS;C:\CDROM;C:\PAS16
DR> Ever thought about trying QEMM? It would easily boost your available
DR> memory to over 600K... easily.
DR>
Hi, I already use 386MAX. I Posted this to help someone who couldn't
get T7Guest running and chose to use Himem since I was sure it was
available to them.
I use several protected mode programs on a regular bases and running
most mem managers just gets in the way of PHARLAP.
I must maintain half a dozen boot configurations to keep life simple.
I use a multiple choice bat that uses the copy *.w31 *.sys trick.
thanks
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From: NIGEL ZETT Number: 4743
To: JASON SUTTLE Date: 10/04/93 10:02a
Subj: Sequel to The 7th Guest Refer: NONE
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I am also interested in the new sequel to 7th guest. Since you spoke with
Graeme, did he mention if it would require MPC-2 hardware? Also, there are
several things unresolved in 7th Guest (I have finished it, but I had to use
the Library Hint Book to solve the virus puzzle), and wondered if the new game
will continue where this leaves off.
All of that aside, do you or anyone else have a recommendation for a CD-ROM
game with the same features and quality as T7G? I've heard that Dune is
similar in content (audio/video-wise), and some of their older games such as
Conan are not too bad???
--─≡NIGEL»
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4744
To: DAVE REED Date: 10/01/93 1:13p
Subj: OKLAHOMA BBS BUST Refer: NONE
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> TD> In a manner of speaking, that's what numerous people with computers and
> TD> modems apparently have been worrying about since late July. That's
> TD> when Oklahoma City police raided Davis' software publishing firm
>Why is it that all you guys who run illegal systems
Tony's system was LEGAL. Just because someone was arrested does NOT mean
that they actually broke any laws - I PERSONALLY have spent time in jail for
crimes I did not commit.
>set yourselves up with dummy publishing firms
Tony's publishing firm was the group that published ALL of the "Magnum" series
CD-ROMs. This is NOT a "dummy firm" by ANY stretch of the imagination.
Just to add INSULT to injury, Tony's "other" firm was a registered COMMON
CARRIER, AKA Phone Company.
>every time the police crack down on illegal boards
The police have cracked down on FAR too many boards that were NOT illegal in
ANY way, shape, or form - take a GOOD look at the Steve Jackson Games case for
a PRIME example of this garbage.
The BLATENT violations of Constitutional Rights AND Federal LAW on the part of
the Secret Service ticked off the judge so much that HE DRESSED DOWN THE AGENT
IN CHARGE FOR 15 MINUTES IN COURT - and the Feds didn't even BOTHER trying to
present their defence, the SJ case was THAT devastating!
You would be wise to STUDY the situation before you insert your foot in your
mouth in public again....
8-<
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4745
To: TERRY MENZIES Date: 10/01/93 4:52p
Subj: AUSSI CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
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> DP> We Offer Dealers Prices For Sales of 5 or More Disks
> DP> Gifs Galore $25.00
> DP> Simtel latest $25.00
> DP> Windows April, 1993 $22.00
> DP> HOBBES OS/2 $25.00
> DP> Amiga Aminet $25.00 (out of stock)
> DP> Libris Britannica Vol. II $65.00
> DP> C Programmers Users Group $40.00
> Interesting, Are these prices your 5 up prices?
He's in trouble if so - those prices are HIGHER than most of the rest of us
sell those titles for on a single basis - WITH shipping....
Brice's Library
(exerpted from my) CD-ROM Price List 1 October 1993
5420 N. College Ave., Suite B5
Indianapolis, IN 46220
Tue Thu 11 AM - 8 PM EST
Wed Fri 11 AM - 6 PM EST
(317) 726-1980 voice
(317) 726-1387 BBS
All prices include any applicable Sales Tax
GIFs Galore 15
Simtel 20 15
CICA Windows 15
Hobbes OS/2 Archives 16
Libris Britania 40
C User's Group Library 26
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From: KEITH SPEARS Number: 4746
To: PAT RICKERSON Date: 10/05/93 2:29p
Subj: Cd's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PR> Have some new prices on some CD's
PR> 1-left Languages of the World ------- $17 (with book)
If this CD covers Sanskrit (preferably with a Sanskrit/English
dictionary), I will happily purchase it. Let me know here or netmail.
... I am not an animal! I am ... well, not an animal.
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From: KEITH SPEARS Number: 4747
To: WEE YUNG Date: 10/05/93 2:32p
Subj: CDROM titles forsale Refer: NONE
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WY> Dictionaries and Languages......$19
Does this CD cover Sanskrit, with a Sanskrit/English dictionary? If it
does, I am most likely interested.
... If you find everything, you will find a goat.
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From: STEVE PESANT Number: 4748
To: RYAN MENDEL Date: 10/05/93 5:09p
Subj: CDROM Setup PCSIG 12th E Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi there!!
I saw one of your messages regarding PC-SIG 12th Edition..Setting it
up for a BBS...Hmm. I'll let ya in on a secret...IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO
BE USED ON BBS's...That's why it isn't BBS ready... If you want to
use it on a BBS, send the PC-SIG company a letter telling them your
intent to use it on a BBS...They'll send you (if you're accepted) all
the files that you'll need to get it to work easily..
Read the BBS information section on the Top Menu Header...it will
elaborate on what I;ve said here.
If you're looking for some good Shareware CD's for your BBS try using
Night Owls Disks or Pier Shareware...These are the two BEST companies
on the market today...Not too expensive and you REALLY get your
money's worth everytime..
-=Cheers=-
Steve.
... Answers: $1, Short: $5, Correct: $25, dumb looks are still free.
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From: DIETER NEUVIANS Number: 4749
To: ALL Date: 10/01/93 11:26p
Subj: The 7th Guest - Help Refer: NONE
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From: Dieter Neuvians (neuvians@mango.apc.org)
On: Friday October 01 1993, at 23:26 hrs:
Hello All!
I have tried hard to get the game T7G running on a Compaq Deskpro 486/33M with
Compaq Vision 1024/E Video Board. Installation is no problem: CD-ROM drive
speed: 295K/sec, Video speed 100% (SVGA Video mode/ Soundblaster 2.0). After
starting the programme only the upper half of the screen shows some compressed
coloured lines, some unreadable text and five hands (?) waving to endless
music. No reaction to the keyboard.
Changing to MCGA or loading a 'CPQVESA.EXE' driver do not change anything.
Could QUEMM 7.01 interfere with the programme ? Thanks for ** any ** advice
since I am sitting a bit isolated in Zimbabwe.
Dieter
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GeoMail: GEOD:GTZ-HSR
InterNet: GTZ-HSR@GEOD.GeoNet.de
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From: RON VANHOE Number: 4750
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 10/06/93 8:48p
Subj: XXX CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>SR>I'm just curious.......Why does there seem to be such a proliforation
>SR>of X-Rated CD's ? For those who are into that sort of thing, they can get
>mu
>SR>better quality and diversability with VHS Movie cartridges either for
>SR>$29.00-$39.00 through the magazine ads or $1.50 to $3.50 per day at Video
>SR>rental places. I cannot understand why anyone would tie up an expensive
>
>I think there are a variety of reasons.
>
>1. XXX-rated images are very popular for downloading from BBSes.
>
>2. The image resolution is better in computer scans compared to video
>tape (which is at best about 400-500 pixels wide and 525 lines high, in
>the USA). Computer images go to 1024x768, which gives them much closer
>to photographic detail.
>
>3. There is more variety in the computer images, you can put thousands
>of radically different images on a single disc, whereas a videotape
>will only normally have a relatively small cast of characters and a
>limited number of locales, etc. This makes for more "surprise" aspect
>in the images as they come up, you never know what might come up next.
>
>4. There is something nice about the computer (a dehumanizing thing in
>some ways) being used for things which are the EPITOME of being human.
>
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From: RON VANHOE Number: 4751
To: ALL Date: 10/06/93 8:49p
Subj: XXX CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On the same topic of XXX, what is the best XXX cd to put online???
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From: PAUL PERHACS Number: 4752
To: DEAN BUXTON Date: 10/06/93 6:24p
Subj: CD capacity Refer: NONE
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Dean,
I stopped at a local radio shack yeaterday for you and checked out the only
drive that they had. It was decent and they had it on sale for $299. I did not
like the loading of the cd however. You yanked out a slim cartridge to insert
the disk. If you got one for, $149, I am sure that you can't go wrong.
Good luck,
Paul
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From: SCOTT GIBSON Number: 4753
To: RICHARD J COX Date: 10/06/93 10:36p
Subj: Re: Do I Know You?? Refer: NONE
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RJ> I realize there are probably a few thousand Scott Gibson's,
RJ> but do you happen to be the Scott Gibson I went to high school
RJ> with in Oshkosh???
RJ>
RJ> A little off topic, I know, but I couldn't resist asking!
Rich,
Sorry. Never been to Oshkosh. My high school was in VA. :-)
-- Scott
Richmond, VA
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From: MARC CIRCOSTA Number: 4754
To: LEE BAILEY Date: 10/04/93 5:18p
Subj: Cd Kits Prices <Aust> Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 29/09/93, LEE BAILEY wrote...
LB> Are those prices US? I can do ALOT better than that if you're
LB> interested.
They sure were.....
Marc.
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From: MARC CIRCOSTA Number: 4755
To: JASON SUTTLE Date: 10/04/93 8:00p
Subj: Sequel to The 7th Guest Refer: NONE
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On 29/09/93, JASON SUTTLE wrote...
JS> I was just wondering if anyone out there has heard anything about
JS> the sequel to The 7th Guest being out, or coming out soon. I
JS> talked to Graeme Devine (lead programmer) at Trilobyte Software a
JS> few months ago, and he said they were shooting to release the
JS> sequel between Sept. and Dec. Any info would be most appreciated.
I hear that the sequel is in the making, and will appear on the newish 3DO
system. No doubt it will also make it's way to the PC at the same time....
Marc.
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From: MARC CIRCOSTA Number: 4756
To: JASON SUTTLE Date: 10/04/93 6:13p
Subj: Sequel to The 7th Guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 29/09/93, JASON SUTTLE wrote...
JS> I was just wondering if anyone out there has heard anything about
JS> the sequel to The 7th Guest being out, or coming out soon. I
JS> talked to Graeme Devine (lead programmer) at Trilobyte Software a
JS> few months ago, and he said they were shooting to release the
JS> sequel between Sept. and Dec. Any info would be most appreciated.
I hear that the sequel is in the making, and will appear on the newish 3DO
system. No doubt it will also make it's way to the PC at the same time....
Marc.
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From: TONY STOTT Number: 4757
To: COREY BICCUM Date: 10/06/93 8:28a
Subj: Re: 7Th Guest? Refer: NONE
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On 10-02-93, Corey Biccum elucidated to Walter Chisenski:
CB>Yeah, I got 7th guest to work now, I had to use qemm 7.0 to load
CB>everything up there, and now I have 649k to play with. The problem no
CB>Is that I think It's going a bit slow, cause qemm uses my video cards
CB>memeory.. 1 meg..
Sorry, but Qemm doesn't take memory used by your video card unless it
reallocates it, in which case your graphics wouldn't work at all. The
slowness is due to something else - eg what cdrom drive are you using, and
what graphics card? What did 7th Guest tell you when it tested these
components?
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From: TIM WENAS Number: 4758
To: LEE BAILEY Date: 10/05/93 4:41p
Subj: Cd Kits Prices <Aust> Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LB>Are those prices US? I can do ALOT better than that if
LB>you're interested.
Nope! Australian prices. I _know_ the US has a lot cheaper CD prices, but
unfortunately we don't! :(:( Oh well... the way the dollar is going, it'll be
cheaper to buy them here <in Australia> anyway!
-T-
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From: RICKY SCHULTZ Number: 4759
To: ALL Date: 10/05/93 6:30p
Subj: pioneer cd-rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi there... I was wondering if anyone out there could give me info on the
Pioneer DRM-600-A CD-ROM 6 player system... eg approx retail price and what
type of SCSI controller card it requires...
Thanks in Advance..
Ricky
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From: PETER LANE-COLLETT Number: 4760
To: ALL Date: 10/06/93 3:36a
Subj: CD jewel case insert program Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Anyone here in OZ have that Windows program for printing the paper inserts for
CD cases?
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From: MARKUS GOEBEL Number: 4761
To: ALL Date: 10/06/93 1:32p
Subj: Pioneer 6 Stack Drives Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi there,
I'm currently looking to buy a Pioneer 6-Stack CD-ROM drive (not sure whether
it'll be the normal one or the Quad-Spin, depends on price). If anyone out
there knows of any good deals going in either Australia or the US please
reply in this echo or via Netmail. For prices ex USA, is the drive available
with 240v/50hz power supply?
Many thanks, Markus.
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From: MARKUS GOEBEL Number: 4762
To: RONALD LEON Date: 10/06/93 1:35p
Subj: Re: CD Speedway Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Ronald Leon to Julian Schoffel <=-
RL> Julian Schoffel beamed onto the Enterprise and said:
JS>I have a NEC Multispin, which is supposed to be one of the fastest CD-
JS>drives around at the moment. I was thinking of getting CD Speedway wh
JS>caching program.
RL> I got lousey results with Speedway but got excellent results with
RL> Lightning CD.
RL> Ron
Ron,
Could you please provide some extra info on "Lightning CD"; like who
publishes it and how much does it cost.
Regards, Markus.
... File not found, I'll load something *I* think is interesting.
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From: POE LIM Number: 4763
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 10/07/93 12:31a
Subj: Where To Buy Sb16/Mm Upg Refer: NONE
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Hello Rowan,
On Oct 04 20:43 in a msg to Steve Mann, Rowan Evans of 3:711/413 wrote:
RE> The kits as-above were written up in "The Australian" about three
RE> weeks ago, along with RRPs! But Creative Labs are doing funny
RE> things at the moment!
Spoke to a local(Aust) dealer recently; said CP may drop their prices soon.
Cheers,
Poe
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From: MALCOLM WRIGHT Number: 4764
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 10/05/93 9:08p
Subj: Re: CR562B CD-ROM Drive. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE> Hi Terry!
RE>
RE> On 09-24-93 Terry Menzies wrote to ROWAN EVANS...
RE>
TM> I contacted a guy the other day in response to an magazine add
TM> for an Panasonic CD-Rom Drive for $AUS399.95
TM>
TM> I called him for specs etc and they follow......
TM>
Stuff deleted
TM> The Drive requires an $50 controller card to
TM> work with the SB-Pro,
TM> or it will work via direct CD-Drive ->
Stuff deleted
TM> Amplifier if no SB is there.
RE> Panasonic's brochure calls it a CR562 series,
RE> their manual for the drive
RE> calls it a CR562B.... The spex you have stated are
RE> exactly the same as
RE> those for the CR562B, so I'd guess he's just being
RE> lazy! As to requiring
RE> an additional card to work with the SB Pro/16/16
RE> ASP.... that's bullsh*t...
RE> the CR562B will attach directly to the SB
RE> Pro/16/16 ASP... What it *DOES*
RE> require is a $A50.00 "controller" if you *DON'T*
RE> have an SB Pro/16/16 ASP!
Thanks for clearing that up Rowan!
I was getting a little bit worried!
Can anyone out there tell me whether the CR-562-B will work under Os/2.
Wanting to use it for my BBS, and can't afford a mistake. (Running Maximus/2).
Bye Guys.
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 4765
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 10/06/93 10:47a
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GP>The intelligent way for a library to use CD-ROMs is for them to place
GP>the requested disc in a LAN server behind the desk, and let the patro
GP>access it via the LAN from their workstation.
It won't work this way unforatunately, as the data is on 48 disks, and
you are regularly asked to swap them.
Cheers
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From: JASON HATLEY Number: 4766
To: CHRIS SNYDER Date: 10/05/93 4:36p
Subj: Re: windows or dos Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of <24 Sep 93 00:36:27>, Chris Snyder writes :
> Is it better to run a game, for example King's Quest VI, in dos
> or windows, if you are wanting the best sound and graphics?
hehe... thats a silly question.. everything runs better just
under DOS.. :) Bye!!
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From: SCOTT GOLBY Number: 4767
To: STEVE GERWECK Date: 10/05/93 7:54p
Subj: Busty Babes Vol II-N Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi there,
SG> Which BB do you have?
SG> The first one, I think it was called Vol I, #3. I guess that
SG> means the first issue and the 3rd press run or something?
SG> Does your BB feature Playboy GIF's?
Let me put it this way, I own 2 copies of Playboy (seriously just 2, a
regular issue from 1988 and a Playmates combo issue) there is probably at least
one picture from each 'set' from the two magazines on the disk. There is even
one in the Amature section of the CD-ROM which is of a realativly famous TV
person from a few years back. (Sorry I forget her name just now.)
'C' ya... Scott Golby
sgolby@st.nepean.uws.edu.au
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4768
To: RODOLFO VAZ Date: 10/07/93 2:07a
Subj: Re: NEW CDs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Hi Boris,
>> I'm looking for CDROMs :
>> . Professional Shareware
>> . Multimidia
>> . OS/2
>> . BBS software (BBS util)
>> Send me a message with the titles and prices, O.K. ?
>> (Or crash me again). Thanks for the five CDs, they are
>> really good, but "I'm hungry" :-) ... So I want more and more
>> ... []s Rodolfo Vaz
>> NC806
Info on it's way......Just don't start eating the cd's, although I think
we have more than enough to take care of your needs.
Chat with you soon....
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4769
To: KERRY ARCHER Date: 10/07/93 2:07a
Subj: Re: CDROM SPECIALS Refer: NONE
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BO>> Chinon Int 340ms Kit - $359.00 Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00 - SCSI
BO>> NEC 74 280ms Ext Bare - $379.00 NEC 84 280ms Int Bare - $349.00 -SCSI
BO>> Panasonic 562 Int Kit - $249.00 Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SCSI
BO>> Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $739.00 Pioneer DMR604X Bare - $1169. -SCSI
BO>> Texel Int 245ms Bare Dr - $369.00 Texel Ext 245ms Bare - $469.00 -SCSI
BO>> Texel Int 3021 Bare Dr - $189.00 Texel Ext Complete Kit- $569.00 -SCSI
BO>> Toshiba Int 3401B Bare - $389.00 Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare- $489.00 -SCSI
BO>> Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit - $195.00 Mitsumi w/Sound Card - $325.00 -PRPR
BO>> Groilers Encyc DOS v5. / Windows v1. $50. ALL ChestNuts CD's $12.00ec
BO>> ORDER'S ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759
>> Boris,
>> What's the difference between the Pioneer DMR600 and the
>> Pioneer DMR604X?
The DMR600 is a 600ms unit with 150kps transfer rate, while the DMR604 is a
300ms drive with a 600kps transfer rate. Both units support SCSI & SCSI 2
and are MPC compliant and you can dasiy chain up to seven units off the same
controller. Also, the 604X is Kodak Multi-session approved as well.
If you need further assistance, please feel free to give us a call at
216-225-3263 and we'll be happy to assist you further.
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4770
To: BILL GOCHNOUR Date: 10/07/93 2:07a
Subj: Re: Adult Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Disclaimer mode..... I am not sure if this is allowed or not
>> but I think I saw a msg stating as long as it's
>> tasteful.....???? If this is not allowed I appologize.
>> I am looking for a quality adult oriented CD. It needs to be
>> bbs ready AND have original photos. I do NOT want a disc of
>> files that have been scanned from magazines that like to sue
>> people. If such a disc is out there can someone let me know
>> the name(s)? If your a dealer and you have such a dsic can
>> you let me know prices too? Thanx
Give us a call at 216-225-3263 and I'am sure we can help you out.
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4771
To: COREY BICCUM Date: 10/07/93 2:07a
Subj: Re: cdrom cable Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Does anyone know where I can find the cable that plugs into my
>> new ds Panasonic cdrom and my new sbpro card? Do I have to
>> call Panasonic to order this cable? Neither my card or my
>> drvie came with this cable, but I think I need one to hear
>> audio cd's over my sb. Or should I just forget the cable and
>> go spend a few bucks on a new pair of speaker, so I can plug
>> them into my cdjack for listening to audio cd's. Anyone help
>> me here? Panasonics phone #?
Have them in stock !! If your interested, give us a call at 800-243-0517
and we'll be happy to assit you further.
Yes, the 800 number can be used from Canada just fine !!
Hope this helps...
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4772
To: TAPANI TUOMINEN Date: 10/07/93 2:07a
Subj: Re: Sb compatible cd-rom:s Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Can anyone give me a complete list of CD-ROM drives that are
>> compatible with Soundblaster cards. This means drives that can
>> be controlled by SB:s integrated controller thus eliminating
>> the need of a separate controller in asystem with SB. I need
>> main specs. like speed, access time caddy/no-caddy and a
>> current US-price.
The Panasonic 562B will do what you want. It offers 320ms access time
with 300kps transfer rate. It's MPC compliant and Kodak multi-session
approved and you can dasiy chain up to 4 units on the same controller
and yes it will work under OS/2 as well.
The price is also very nice at only $249.US and that's for a complete
system with interface.
Need additional, fax us your request at 216-225-6759 anytime or drop us
a note via the Fidonet address below and well be happy to assist you
further as we do have these in stock.
Boris Osadciw
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 4773
To: BILL GOCHNOUR Date: 10/06/93 7:57a
Subj: Adult Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BG> I am looking for a quality adult oriented CD. It needs to be bb
BG> AND have original photos. I do NOT want a disc of files that h
BG> scanned from magazines that like to sue people. If such a disc
BG> there can someone let me know the name(s)? If your a dealer an
BG> have such a dsic can you let me know prices too? Thanx
If you'll hold on to your horses a bit, Florida Lion's Den is promising
to publish just such a disk (in fact several) between now and the end of
the year. First one's due out this month as I recall. Suposed to be T&A
and meet your specs. I'll be publishing a review of it ASAP (producer
has promised an early copy). Other than that, what'll presently meet
your legal specs probably won't meet your visual expectations. (IMO).
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 4774
To: NEIL RIPSTON Date: 10/06/93 8:05a
Subj: PKZIP 2.04G AND TEXEL CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NR> before. What happens is that if I use PKZIP 2.04 G to try to un
NR> file on my TEXEL DM-3024 internal drive, my computer does a cold
NR> Anybody ever heard of this? The files
I use 2.04g all the time without any problems. This may sound stupid,
but you're not logged to the CD when you're unZIPing are you? Unless
directed to do otherwise, PKZIP will try to write to the default drive
and, well,.....your particular config may not be very tolerant of such
antics. Just a thought....
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From: RICHIE REEVES Number: 4775
To: ELDON WAKEFIELD Date: 10/06/93 10:09p
Subj: Re: PHOENIX 4.0 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Yes, I haven't got it yet but am suppose to recieve it on Friday. I run
a TG so I don't know if it will be any different or not. I sure do hope
that it's a goodie cause I have heard alot about it. Does it live up to
it's reputation?
Pirate
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From: LON SEIDMAN Number: 4776
To: JAMIE PASSEY Date: 10/06/93 10:06a
Subj: CD-Rom prices Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Jamie Passey wrote
+-------------------------------+
XXXI would like to purchase a CD-ROM drive, preferably cheap (since i don't
XXXhave much $$).. how much does a good drive cost? How much does a CD with
XXXtons of shareware on it cost..? Does anyone have a used drive?
+-------------------------------+
The Mitsumi drives retail for less than $200. They have an adequate
speed. They are considerably slower than the double speed drives, but
are MPC compatible.
I just purchased Pier1 and Pier2 from a place out in California for $49.
The prices vary depending on what you're buying for shareware.
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From: LON SEIDMAN Number: 4777
To: TONY SIMMONS Date: 10/06/93 10:06a
Subj: cd games Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Tony Simmons wrote
+-------------------------------+
XXXDoes anybody know if the cd game Rebel Assault is shipping yet?
+-------------------------------+
Not yet. I believe it will ship sometime in early November (hopefully
:) )
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From: LON SEIDMAN Number: 4778
To: PETER BOSTOCK Date: 10/06/93 10:06a
Subj: Cd Rom Info Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Peter Bostock wrote
+-------------------------------+
XXXWhich is preferable, an AT-bus or a SCSI interface for the drive?
XXX(I will only buy one CD player and probably the next PC I'll buy
XXXwill have local bus HD etc plus I don't have any other expansion devices
XXXto crowd the motherboard. The only reason for buying a SCSI would be
XXXfor speed or data transfer (I run OS/2 2.1 and have heard mutterings of
XXXthe advantages of a true concurrent processing OS with data transfer
XXXvia SCSI)
SCSI is the best way to go. Most good drives require a SCSI interface
anyhow.
XXXHow does the audio player work through a sound card. Do you need a sound
XXXcard with connections so that the CD player can output through the sound
XXXcard's jacks. I want to connect the sound card to a preamp and get CD
XXXquality sound through my hifi. What cards would deliver that quality?
XXXWhat about the Soundblaster Pro, the Pro Audio Spectrum or
XXXthe Sound Galaxy NX
Most of the CD-ROM software available plays audio through the
soundblaster as a digitized sound file. CD Audio can go through a
soundcard with the proper connections. I prefer to just use the
headphone port on the front of the drive.
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From: LON SEIDMAN Number: 4779
To: ALL Date: 10/06/93 10:06a
Subj: Apple II/IIgs shareware Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm trying to build up a library of Apple II, and IIgs files for my
bulletin board. I was wondering if anyone knew of a CD-ROM (ISO 9660
compatible) which contains shareware and PD software. Any information
would be appreciated. I'm trying to organize an Apple II on-line user
group. Such a CD would be quite helpful.
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From: LON SEIDMAN Number: 4780
To: COREY BICCUM Date: 10/06/93 10:06a
Subj: CDROM games Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Corey Biccum wrote
+-------------------------------+
XXXWhat about Indianna Jones, another one I want to buy but
XXXnot sure if its the same deal. Does anyone know if ERic
XXXthe Unready, and Indianna Jones has speach in them?
+-------------------------------+
I'm not sure about Eric the Unready, but I do know that Indiana Jones is
enhanced for CD (because I own it :) ). Indy CD adds full speech. It
will be awhile before more CD-ROM exclusive software is released.
Companies are finding it more profitable to shovel their games over to
CD with only minor enhancements. LucasArts seems to be doing the best
job out of everyone at the moment. Both Indy CD, and DOTT CD are
fantastic. Rebel Assault is on the way. They really have their act
together as far as CD-ROM software is concerned.
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From: LON SEIDMAN Number: 4781
To: SOL-LOTARR Date: 10/06/93 10:06a
Subj: CD-Rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Sol-Lotarr wrote
+-------------------------------+
XXXHi Guys...I have a Soundblaster Pro and I would like to know which CD-Rom
XXXcompatable with the card...I appreicate any help on the subject. BTW I am
XXXlooking for something under $350 but am willing to pay more. Bye
+-------------------------------+
It all depends on what you mean by "compatible." If you are purchasing
a separate SCSI card, it will work with any software that supports the
Soundblaster and Pro. I believe the SBPro has a propiertary interface
for its connection to a CD drive. Only a few on the market support that
interface.
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From: LON SEIDMAN Number: 4782
To: ALL Date: 10/06/93 10:06a
Subj: Walkthroughs and Flybys Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone know where to get the WalkThroughs and Flybys CD-ROM? It's
a CD which contains graphic and sound presentations from The Future
Crew, and other European demo groups. Any information and leads would
be appreciated!
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 4783
To: KEN UHRICK Date: 10/06/93 7:49a
Subj: Re: Catalogs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> ken uhrick
-> 1685 whitehurst av
-> homosasa fl 34448
-> phone 904-628-5286
-> voice
Will do!
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From: HENNIE VAN DALEN Number: 4784
To: RAY DYER Date: 10/03/93 5:36p
Subj: CD Rom scratches Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hallo Ray!
Tuesday September 21 1993 22:10, Ray Dyer wrote to All:
RD> The only variable seen are the micro scratches only seen by light
RD> reflecting off of them at a certain angle.
Are there any scratches on the "label-side" of the CD ?. This side seems
to be more sensitive to scratching, because it is part of the built-in mirror
Many people think that the shiny-side of a CD is the part to prevent for
scratching, but this is not true.
Even by sticking a label on a CD the coating can be damaged.(and also it
can cause an unbalance, which can damage your drive while spinning)
Greetings,
Hennie
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From: ARIE RIETKERK Number: 4785
To: ALL Date: 10/03/93 9:05p
Subj: Hobbes os2 cd version 10/93 Refer: NONE
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Yoo All!
Does anybody know WHEN and WHERE i can buy the NEW HOBBES OS2 shareware cd?
The one of 10/93.....NOT the 06/93
Thanks in advance!
C_your_BITS_L8er: A_RIEtkerk.
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From: WADE NORTON Number: 4786
To: ALL Date: 10/06/93 6:56a
Subj: ROMDOOR Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello all,
I'm having problems connecting to the ROMDOOR support BBS. I need a copy of
the RomDoor database for CD-Winbox v1.0. Can someone out the make it available
to me for FREQ? It would very much appreciated.
Thanks in advance
Wade
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4787
To: ALL Date: 10/05/93 11:26p
Subj: PIER 3 NOW SHIPPING! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
| Title: PIER 3 Price: $39 |
* 628mb total * Separate <ASP> directory. * 100% files dated 1993
* All files virus-scanned * FILES.BBS Support * < 1% dupes to 1 & 2
* Most current files on the market. Over 98% dated AFTER 4/93!
2-CD SET: Pier 2 and 3...................(less than 1% dupes!)....$59
3-CD SET: Pier 1, 2, and 3...............(less than 1% dupes!)....$75
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4788
To: ALL Date: 10/05/93 11:26p
Subj: PROGRAMMER'S MEGAPAK: $29 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
| Starvector Sales Bulletin #6: HOT CD-ROM! |
| Title: PROGRAMMER'S MEGAPACK Price: $29 |
* Source code for DOS, Windows, OS/2, Mac, Unix, and GNU
* Working demos of the products most needed by programmers
* 1000's of programmer's tools and utilities * BBS-Ready
* Covers all major languages: Basic, C, C++, Pascal, Fortran, + more!
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)
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From: EDWARD FOSTER Number: 4789
To: EDWARD TUSHAR Date: 10/05/93 8:25a
Subj: Thanks for the responses Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Edward,
Tuesday September 21 1993 05:29, Edward Tushar wrote to All:
ET> Are there any other shareware CD's that will run under a door like
ET> Mega-Demo? My BBS system does not use any other BBS's file structures.
ET> (i.e FILES.BBS) I run Harmony. Thanks in advance.
If you can create a drop file, RomBrain from Brainex Systems is about the best
CD-Rom Door I've seen. At present, he supports Genesis, Gap, Generic, and the
list goes on. The interface itself supports 99 drives or volumes if you don't
have that many drives. You can configure it to D/L off the CD itself or you can
use a work directory and copy to it from the CD, pray tell as to why someone
would want to do that though...I have some of the slowest drives created and I
configured D/L's off the CD and have seen 1850cps..AnyWho, the interface also
supports Rip Graphics and has a compiler built in so as to compile the filebase
that will be present on your HD, for faster reading of same.
Personally, I think its the best on the market. It supports the four drives I
have without a hitch. Stop by and have a look if ya want... The number is below
and you can take the latest copy with you. You'll need Brainex.Zip &
RomBrain.Zip, the later being the Door Manager and RomBrain being the CD-rom
Door itself. I run a slew of Cd-Roms, all NiteOwls Versions, Mega, PowerPak
etc.
Edward Foster, " The Oasis BBs "
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From: JOE BLENKLE Number: 4790
To: ALL Date: 10/05/93 3:06p
Subj: CD phone listings Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Don't know if this is appropriate here, but as it has to do with CDs,
maybe so...
Has anyone out there seen this CD I've seen advertised that
contains over 70 million residential phone numbers? If you
have and either have it or have access to it, please contact
me here as I would like you to look something up for me.
Thanks...
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 4791
To: NEIL RIPSTON Date: 10/09/93 6:50a
Subj: PKZIP 2.04G AND TEXEL CD Refer: 7118
Read: NO Private: No
-> I've got a really different problem that maybe somebody has experienc
-> What happens is that if I use PKZIP 2.04 G to try to unzip any file
-> TEXEL DM-3024 internal drive, my computer does a cold boot! Anybody
My system does the exact same thing! Is your TEXEL drive wired thru a
PAS 16 sound card?
tim
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From: WES MATTHEWS Number: 4792
To: KEN MATTHEWS Date: 10/06/93 6:05p
Subj: CD'S SLAE/TRADE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
KM>Looking for Latest Family Doctor, San Diego Zoo Windows, Adult!
What you what the Family Dr. instead of the Mayo?? I was looking
through the Computer shopper and the other lists.. They got tons
of stuff, I think I'm going to go with either a Texel Double
Speed or NEC Multispin... Check around on your BBS's and see
what there are saying about them.. It seems as though they're a
hit up here...C-ya
Wes
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From: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS Number: 4793
To: ALL Date: 10/08/93 4:07p
Subj: Disc Wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for a disk with sound and animation files (that I can allow users
to download).. If you know of one, please reply with the title and where it
might be available....
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From: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS Number: 4794
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 10/08/93 4:09p
Subj: PIER 3 NOW SHIPPING! Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
MS> --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00
MS> * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat
MS> DOOR (1:3407/101)
First of all, your message has multiple tag lines.. Not good with the FTSC...
Second, is the chat a multinode chat?
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From: DEBBIE MARANTZ Number: 4795
To: MICHAEL JESSY Date: 10/05/93 11:41p
Subj: The 7th Guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
There is help available, the utility is called UHSDOS.ZIP which is the file
reader and the help file which contains hints and solutions is called T7G.UHS.
I came across the files on America OnLine, but they should also be available on
some of the other online services, Compuserve, Genie, etc. Also, you may be
able to find what you require on one of your larger BBS'es.
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From: GARY STIMPSON Number: 4796
To: JOHN RACKLEY Date: 10/06/93 12:42a
Subj: Re: AMIGA CD ROM.. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of 02 Oct 93 John Rackley wrote to Glenn Loftus:
JR> RE: CD-32 module for the Amiga 1200.
JR>
JR> The question is - since the CD-32 essentially IS an Amiga 1200 on the
JR> inside, what is the CD-32 add-on going to consist of other than the
JR> CD-ROM drive itself?
Probably just the chunky->planar conversion chip, and Workbench 3.1, which
includes drivers for the CD32 and 11 button joystick.
Gary
... Pirating taglines is wrong!
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From: ED RIJNHOUT Number: 4797
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 10/05/93 10:52a
Subj: Discount cd-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Neil,
Here is my adress:
Ed Rijnhout
Alerdincksngl. 96
3073 JB Rotterdam
Holland
Please send me a catalog
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From: ROB VAN DER OUDERAA Number: 4798
To: ROBERT PROHL Date: 10/03/93 4:30p
Subj: Extra harddisk problem Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Robert,
Just a wild guess but could it be that your LASTDRIVE statement in your
config.sys is set to 'D' ? If so change it to 'E'. Current version of MSCDEX
I am using is 2.2, if you have an older version you could try to get this
version.
Hope this helps,
Rob
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From: ROB VAN DER OUDERAA Number: 4799
To: ROBERT PROHL Date: 10/03/93 4:34p
Subj: Extra harddisk problem Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Robert,
Just a wild guess but could it be that your LASTDRIVE statement in your
config.sys is set to 'D' ? If so change it to 'E'. Current version of MSCDEX
I am using is 2.22, if you have an older version you could try to get this
version.
Hope this helps,
Rob
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From: ROB VAN DER OUDERAA Number: 4800
To: ROBERT PROHL Date: 10/03/93 4:45p
Subj: Extra harddisk problem Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Robert,
"
Recently I installed another hard drive for my BBS and configured it as
the Slave drive, designation D. Since there is a specific variable for
teh CD rom extension in the Config and Autoexec files, I figured I could
just change this to reconfigure the CD as E....
However, I keep getting "illegal parameter" or some such nonsense when
autoexec encounters that line.. what the hey? Can it be done?
"
I tried this on my system, just for the fun of it, and you should have
the following line in your autoexec.bat :
mscdex.exe /D:MSCD001 /V /M:15 /L:E
The last parameter is the important one, it tells mscdex to use the E drive.
You also need to change the config.sys file with your CD driver in it. I use
SBCD and a soundblaster pro card, and then the line is :
device = sbcd.sys /D:MSCD001 /p:220 /L:E
Again the last parameter is the important one, telling the driver to install
itself as drive 'E'.
Hope this helps,
Rob
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From: KEVIN LEE Number: 4801
To: JAMIE PASSEY Date: 10/08/93 12:36a
Subj: CD-Rom prices Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JP> I would like to purchase a CD-ROM drive, preferably
JP> cheap (since i don't
JP> have much $$).. how much does a good drive cost?
JP> How much does a CD with
JP> tons of shareware on it cost..? Does anyone have a used drive?
I got a Panasonic CD-ROM drive with AT-bus controller, caddy & driver for
sale. Do you interest in it. $350 Ok?
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4802
To: MARCUS LEE Date: 10/06/93 8:13p
Subj: 7th Guest 100% Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Marcus!
On 10-03-93 Marcus Lee wrote to Rowan Evans...
ML> RE> ML> I got 100% for video under 7th Guest using an ATI Graphics
ML> RE> ML> Ultra Pro 2mb vram EISA version.... about the only card I
ML> RE> ML> know (and own!) which isnt VLB to score 100%...
ML>
ML> RE> What version of T7G install? I borrowed an older (1.04) version
ML> RE> and got 86% on the ATI GUPro ISA... Then bought a 1.2 version
ML> RE> and only got 66% for the same card/same machine...
ML>
ML> How do you find out the version number?
Printed on the top of the CD-ROMs, right next to the "Only for OEM
bundle" notice! <g>
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4803
To: DEBBIE MARANTZ Date: 10/06/93 8:15p
Subj: Just Some File Stuff Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Debbie!
On 10-03-93 Debbie Marantz wrote to Rowan Evans...
DM> I logged on to Creative's BBS and while I was just touring
DM> around a thought came to me, this is a Global Echo and here
DM> on this side of the pond we do take the tech support for
DM> granted, so posted here are the lastest file listings from
DM> Creative's BBS for SB and CD Rom support.
..[file listing deleted for brevity]..
DM> So there you have it, for some it may give some insight in
DM> what to look for to solve a problem or a much needed update.
Thanx for the file listing! I'll compare it to the one on the local
Creative Pacific BBS to see if the file dates are close!
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4804
To: PETER BOSTOCK Date: 10/06/93 9:05p
Subj: Cd Rom Info Refer: NONE
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Hi Peter!
On 10-03-93 Peter Bostock wrote to All...
PB> Which is preferable, an AT-bus or a SCSI interface for the drive?
PB> (I will only buy one CD player and probably the next PC I'll buy
PB> will have local bus HD etc plus I don't have any other expansion
PB> devices to crowd the motherboard. The only reason for buying a SCSI
PB> would be for speed or data transfer (I run OS/2 2.1 and have heard
PB> mutterings of the advantages of a true concurrent processing OS with
PB> data transfer via SCSI)
Well, you say you'll run OS/2 2.1.... Poe Lim has done some tests that
compared a Toshiba SCSI and a Panasonic AT-bus drive.... They both ran
out about the same, but with the SCSI giving a higher "perceived"
transfer rate due to the faster (330Kbps) spex of the Toshiba drive....
Under DOS, it appears to be a different story, with the Panasonic doing
a bolter compared to a couple of SCSI CD-ROM drives....
As to "true concurrent processing" I suggested this to Poe and he rebutted
the idea....
PB> How does the audio player work through a sound card. Do you need a
PB> sound card with connections so that the CD player can output through
PB> the sound card's jacks. I want to connect the sound card to a preamp
PB> and get CD quality sound through my hifi. What cards would deliver
PB> that quality? What about the Soundblaster Pro, the Pro Audio Spectrum
PB> or the Sound Galaxy NX Pro? I want a card which will deliver CD quality
PB> stereo sound.
Most sound cards (at least the ones I've seen) have a CD-In connector, that
connects to the "Audio Out" of the CD-ROM drive. The sound gets passed from
the CD-ROM drive via this connector to the sound card, where it passes
through the on-board amplifier (which can often be disabled) and is output
to the "line out" jack, where the speakers are connected.
I have had/used both a Pro Audio Spectrum 16 and an SB 16 ASP for playing
Audio CDs.... I couldn't tell the difference... When it comes to FM sound
and the other sound capabilities of the sound cards, I believe the PAS 16
is the better of the two, but everyone has their own favourite sound card.
It only becomes a real hassle if you want a sound card/CD-ROM single slot
solution.... Then you have to choose between AT-bus drives or SCSI and
SB or PAS or GUS or SG NX Pro....
PB> How do you connect the drive, sound card together? Does the CD-ROM
PB> have both sound jacks as well as a data bus connection (AT or SCSI)
As mentioned earlier, there's normally a "CD-In" connector on the
sound card....
Cheers!
o
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From: RUSSELL HARDIE Number: 4805
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 10/06/93 10:48p
Subj: CD-ROM Analyzor Refer: NONE
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MS> You can download it from our BBS at 509-457-0206. I will be making a
MS> newcomparison chart, just as soon as I have all the new CD's in hand.
MS> (Stillwaiting on Night Owl 10)
Thanks, someone told me it was on Software Vault Gold, so I grabbed it off
there.
To save you some time, I have made a comparision chart of the following (some
were kept off your old one):
Pier 1
Pier 2
Pier 3
Night Owl 7
Night Owl 9
Cream of the Crop
Shareware Studio II
Shareware Studio III
Monster Disc II Part 1
Monster Disc II Part 2
Software Vault 2
Software Vault Gold
So Much Shareware 2
So Much Shareware 3
Dr.Shareware
Dr.Windows
It's almost totally finished, but I won't be able to post it as a message
because of it's width. I will be making it available for FREQ, though, so it
may be better to pay for the toll call (prob about US$1-2 over to New Zealand I
guess), and save yourself the time for all of those ones!
I'll post the name in a day or so when I have it all set up.
Cheers.
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4806
To: ROBERT STEPHENS Date: 10/07/93 8:35p
Subj: Re: SB PRO OR SB 16 Refer: NONE
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Hi Robert!
On 10-02-93 Robert Stephens wrote to ROWAN EVANS...
RS> I hate Creative Labs myself, for owning a sbpro for over a year and
RS> getting a PAS-16 the difference in sound is phoenominal.
I refused to buy an SB Pro, waited for the SB 16 ASP! I have had a
PAS 16, so I can talk reasonably authoritavely on both cards...
I preferred the PAS 16 sound, but wanted the Panasonic CD-ROM
controller support......
RS> RE> BTW, the PAS 16 only has a polled, 68Kbps SCSI-1 SCSI host
RS> RE> adapter... Adequate for a CD-ROM drive, but hardly what I'd
RS> RE> call an "Excellent" SCSI card....
RS>
RS> Well, its 680Kb a sec... Its well suited to its intended purpose.
True, but there are a heap of msgs starting to appear from people wanting
to attach HDDs to the PAS 16's SCSI connector!
..[truncated]..
RS> RE> CZ> 6) SB Software support (thru SBOS, a SB emulation program)
RS> RE>
RS> RE> Native SB Pro and OPL3 drivers... none of this emulation cr*p....
RS>
RS> The PAS-16 has Yamaha OPL-3, but only hardware SB (mono) em. Pity it
RS> has this, I feel a lot of games writers dont bother specifically
RS> supporting the PAS-16 and just use the SB emulation, when the PAS-16
RS> is a million times better.
The PAS 16 *IS* better than the standard SB, but I wouldn't make the
cheque out for *QUITE* that much!
RS> RE> CZ> ..[GUS].. 8) $199 list price, $129 street price
RS> RE>
RS> RE> Cheap to con suckers like you into buying one.....
RS>
RS> Heh, who bought a SB16 ?
And I stand behind it (because you guys keep throwing rotten eggs!) and
my reasons for purchase of it, as it does what I want it to do :-
1. Provide support for my Panasonic CR562b CD-ROM drive.
2. Provide a single-slot sound/CD-ROM control solution.
3. Provide 100% native SB Pro 2 (OPL3) and SB support
4. Provide 16 bit playback/record sound.
These reasons are in order of priority... So whilst I admit that its not
the absolute best sound card on the market, its the one for me!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4807
To: DANIEL CAROLLO Date: 10/07/93 8:38p
Subj: Cr562b Cd-rom Drive Refer: NONE
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Hi Daniel!
On 10-01-93 Daniel Carollo wrote to Rowan Evans...
DC> > Please do! I'd be *MOST* interested in the results. Until then,
DC> > I'll stand by my statements that SCSI CD-ROMs are slow compared
DC> > to the CR-562B/CR563!
DC> >
DC> > Using the CR503 is a bit unfair to the other CD-ROM drives though -
DC> > it has a 256Kb buffer according to the spex....
DC>
DC> Who cares about fairness ? Is it fair to compare a CR-562B
DC> with others, it is a double speed drive after all ;-)
Yes it is, as the drives I was comparing to were *ALL* double speed drives!
DC> Let's see the comparison, and our choice will be that much more
DC> informed.
Wait 'till I update it! (I just got a copy of CDSPEED, a CD-ROM
benchmarking program, so I want to run it against the various drives
I have access to before re-posting results!).....
Cheers from Sunny Sydney, Australia (Home of the 2000 Olympics!)
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4808
To: BEN SHIELDS Date: 10/07/93 9:20p
Subj: Multi session? Refer: NONE
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Hi Ben!
On 10-03-93 Ben Shields wrote to All...
BS> this will probably sound like a dumb question and
BS> has also probably been answered before but could someone
BS> tell me what multisession means and if it is worth having
BS> it on a CD-rom drive as I am considering buying a CD-rom
BS> and want a cheap one (Huh).
Multisession refers to having the ability to view multiple Kodak
Photo CD sessions (the standard CD-ROM only has a single, spiral
track, like an Audio CD, Photo CD allows for multiple tracks to be
written to the CD-ROM, the second and subsequent tracks starting
after the start of the previous track).
BS> The cheapest one I have seen is from Epoch Systems
BS> and its description goes like this :
BS> CD-ROM Drive , Includes controller, Photo CD, Multisession
BS> 350 ms access
BS> $399.95
You don't mention the other *MOST* important consideration of the spex
on a CD-ROM drive, the transfer rate!
BS> Does anyone out there know of a better deal ? I
BS> wan't teh CD-Rom only for the GREAT file capacity ! and I
BS> only have a Thunder Board sound card (NOt looking to
BS> upgrade either, Well atleast until GUS drops in price
BS> anyway!)
Dows Tamworth have a local Osborne Computers shop?? They sell a kit
called the CD-200 which includes a Panasonic CR562b CD-ROM drive
(300Kbps, 320ms avg access, CD-ROM XA & Multisession Photo CD compat.)
with paddle card (controller) cables & device driver software....
Cost? Around $395.00....
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4809
To: NEIL RIPSTON Date: 10/07/93 9:26p
Subj: Encarta... Refer: NONE
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Hi Neil!
On 09-28-93 Neil Ripston wrote to Rick Potts...
NR> RP> That's a $250 program he's selling....Not a $49 one.
NR>
NR> And I must say a great!! program. I wonder why he's selling it.
Maybe he saw/bougt a copy of Software Toolworks/Groliers? <g>
o
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 4810
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 10/07/93 7:26a
Subj: Pro Audio Studio 16Xl Refer: NONE
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RE> The SB 16 is a *VAST* step up from the PC speaker for games, and as
Wavetable is at least as big a step up on top of that...
RE> *NOT IMPORTANT*...... The SB 16 MIDI sounds OK to me too!
If SB16 midi, (which sounds exactly the same as SBpro midi, and very
similar to all other FM MIDI) sounds good to you, you haven't heard
wavetable. I have put together a file of about 700k, which includes a
MIDI file, which you can play on your SB, and a 16 bit WAV file of the
same MIDI file being played by the Ensoniq wavetable chip on the GUS.
Look for a file called GUSVSB.ARJ, it is available on Galen bbs, and
500cc bbs in Sydney. It is a good way to compare FM to wavetable. A real
eye opener (ear opener?). I felt the need to make such a program to help
overcome the ignorance of many people of wavetable :-)
Borrow, steal, hijack a waveblaster and slap it in.
RE> AS> Yeah but you save all those other slots for scanners, HD
RE>controllers
RE> AS> etc etc... Again giving a typical system 3 or more slots free.
RE>
RE> ? You lost me here...... Are you saying that if you have 7 CD-ROM
RE>drives
RE> on a SCSI h/a you're saving slots??
No, I'm saying you can put say 3 or 4 CDroms on a SCSI controller, as
well as your Tape B/U, 2 Hard-disks, a Scanner etc, meaning that you
don't need to put in separate controller cards for all these other
devices.
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 4811
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 10/07/93 5:24p
Subj: Sbpro, Does It Have A Li Refer: NONE
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RE> Well the only guy I've seen selling Texels (not that I've really bee
RE> looking) has been asking around $A800.00.... And, when questioned, o
RE> of his staff said he had one and it "hung" all the time, requiring t
RE> PC to be re-booted!
Do you honestly think that the Texel would be on the market if it "Hung
all the time", those people were probably trying to use an Sbpro as a
controller, or something equally stupid. My drive has not hung ONCE.
I have heard that some of the panasonics lock up with Night Owl 9.
I have found that the Texel has been able to read a very marginal disk,
which some of my friends have been unable to access with their drives.
RE> This may be an isolated dealer/user instance, but it makes me glad t
RE> have the CR562B!
"May be an isolated incident"... NO, all Texel drives "Hang", in fact
they can't read CDroms at all, they are actually fancy Cdaudio players.
We know you love your Creative drive, you haven't stopped telling anyone
who will listen :-), but there are other drives out there used by other
people that are equally good, and in many cases faster/better,
especially in regards to seek time. The world does not revolve around
Panasonic drives and Soundblasters, there are many of us out there doing
it much better.
Cheers
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From: PAUL ROLFE Number: 4812
To: ANDREW LARMOUR Date: 10/06/93 2:16p
Subj: Britanica Refer: NONE
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AL> Hi Don,
AL> I spoke to a Brittanica salesman a few months ago here in
AL> Melbourne Australia, and he said "It is available on
AL> two CD-ROM's but he wasnt sure of the price since they
AL> hadnt had much call for it..."
AL> .
AL> Personally, I rekon it would be a fantastic reference
AL> to have on my desk at home...
EMFBI.
I don't spose he told you, or do you know where I can source the Britanica
from? I have been looking for it for a client for a while now, and nobody
knows where to get it from
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From: PAUL ROLFE Number: 4813
To: STEVE GOYER Date: 10/06/93 2:23p
Subj: Oem Refer: NONE
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SG> Can someone tell me what OEM is (or stands for)?
Original Equipment Manufacturer.
Usually refers to software sold to PC manafacturers to change to their own
specifications (eg. Ms-Dos, Windows etc.) It also does occur with some
hardware (ie. Panasonic CD-Roms for Soundblaster CD kits)
Regards
Paul
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From: LAURIE BATT Number: 4814
To: CROSSED WIRES FILE PATROL Date: 10/05/93 9:05a
Subj: New Files Available Refer: NONE
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G'day Crossed, In a message on <Oct 03>, you said :
CWFP> Today, Sunday 03-10-93, Crossed Wires BBS (809:919/1)
CWFP> received the following files.
CWFP> -----------------------------------------------------
CWFP> PRIVATE.ZIP 1,403 PRIVNEW.ZIP 1,383
CWFP> ------------------------
CWFP> -----------------------------------------------------
CWFP> 2,786 bytes in 2 file(s)
Big Deal !! and you had to tell the world this shattering news.
CWFP> Total of 2,786 in 2 file(s)
WOW !!
CWFP> -!- RA 2.01+/IM 2.23/DV 2.42
CWFP> ! Origin: Crossed Wires BBS, Dudley NC, U.S.A.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Try Chkdisk it might fix th......Oops ! Sorry thats for cross-linked files not
cross-wired links.
Laurie
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From: MARK SILVER Number: 4815
To: ALL Date: 10/05/93 8:51a
Subj: Swap MS Works Refer: NONE
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To one and all.....
I have a CD-ROM version of MS Works (incs a word processor with MS Draw,
spreadsheet, charting and database facilities). It came with the Sound
Galaxy multimedia upgrade kit. I already use other programs and I have no
need for this CD. It's in "as new" condition.
I would also consider swapping the Macromedia Action! 2.0 CD that came with
the same kit (depending on the offer).
Would any one be interested in swapping the CDs for some games (or something
else)? I am open to suggestions. I already have encarta, battle chess, COREL
CDs, The Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopaedia and World Atlas.
Feel free to make and offer. Contact me here or at my CompuServe address.
Regards,
Mark Silver.
CompuServe ID 100237,2232
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From: MARK SILVER Number: 4816
To: QUINN LARKIN Date: 10/05/93 9:08a
Subj: Catalogs Refer: NONE
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<<***** On 10-01-93, Terri Satchell wrote to Quinn Larkin: *****>>
>* In a message originally to Adrian Salas, Quinn Larkin said:
> > >If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave your
> > >mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
>
>PLEASE add me to you list also
Mail to:
Mark Silver
C/- Bundaberg News-Mail
22-24 Targo Street
BUNDABERG QLD 4670
AUSTRALIA
Regards,
Mark Silver.
CompuServe ID 100237,2232
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From: STEPHEN RANSON Number: 4817
To: BEN SHIELDS Date: 10/08/93 2:59a
Subj: Multi Session? Refer: NONE
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In a message to All on 10-03-93, Ben Shields said:
BS>Hi ALL,
BS> this will probably sound like a dumb question and has also
BS>probably been answered before but could someone tell me what
BS>multisession means and if it is worth having it on a CD-rom drive as
BS>I
Multi Session means the CD-ROM is capable of reading more than one set of
Kodak photo images stored on the one CD. If you us the same CD to record
two different films worth of pictures at different times, then a single
session drive will only be able to read the first set of images.
BS>am considering buying a CD-rom and want a cheap one (Huh).
BS> The cheapest one I have seen is from Epoch Systems and its
BS>description goes like this :
BS> CD-ROM Drive , Includes controller, Photo CD,
BS>Multisession
BS> 350 ms access
BS> $399.95
Depends what you really need, If you are really only interested in the
large capacity and speed is not an issue then you can get a cheap slow 150
kb/sec 350 msec drive, like the Panasonic CD522b with controller for $390
from me. But for only a few dollars more you can buy the current state of
the art (for the average home user anyway) CR562b with controller. This
drive is twice as fast (300 kb/sec data transfer rate, 320 msec access
time, multi-spin, multi session) and much more capable.
BS> Does anyone out there know of a better deal ? I wan't teh
BS>CD-Rom only for the GREAT file capacity ! and I only have a Thunder
BS>Board sound card (NOt looking to upgrade either, Well atleast until
BS>GUS
BS>drops in price anyway!)
BS> I know I am asking alot but I know Little on CD-Rom technolgy
BS>and would be evergratefull!
BS> Thanking you In advance ! BYeager.
Just call me FREE on (008) 811190 for more info.
Steve Ranson
Australian CD-ROM Club
Voice (008) 811 190, Fax (06) 291 4591
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From: BRENTON VETTORETTI Number: 4818
To: PETER LANE-COLLETT Date: 10/08/93 1:40a
Subj: Cd Jewel Case Insert Prog Refer: NONE
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Hi Peter,
PL> Anyone here in OZ have that Windows program for printing the paper
> inserts for CD cases?
Yep! It's called Micrografx Designer. You could also use a few other
programs to do the same thing. One that springs to mind immediately
is Corel Draw. If you were really desperate you could use Write or
Paintbrush <yetch>. The other special tool you will need is called a
Stanley Knife, or you could substitute an Xacto knife for this one.
Sometimes, the obvious ain't so obvious hu! :)
Regards, Brenton
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From: MATT CHAPMAN Number: 4819
To: ROBERT FROST Date: 10/07/93 9:24a
Subj: Unknown NightowlCD Refer: NONE
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RF>I was wondering if anyone could help me, with this CD i've got. It says
>Night Owl's , instead of just nightowl.Is this an
>imitation, or just a mistake?
>The CD was made in 1990 and it's number is PDSI-002-1.
My 6 & 7 have "Night Owl's", 8 has "Night Owl" - but to tell you the truth I
couldn't give a hoot. (I apologise for the bad humour in advance).
Regards Matt.
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From: THEO VAN DEN BERG Number: 4820
To: ALL Date: 10/06/93 8:10a
Subj: Australian Cd Roms Refer: NONE
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Hi there everyone,
I would like any info on the cheapest cd rom drives or and sb16 cards or kits
sold in AUSTRALIA as I want to buy a multi-spin cd drive and an sb16, I would
also like to know whether the drive will run faster of an at bus card than a
sb16 card?
The going rate for a laserBaud photo cd compati, 300300kbps, 320 msec
access drive is $400 and An SB16 is $320, Can anybody do better?
Regards.
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From: LEW MURRAY Number: 4821
To: SCOTT DAVIS Date: 10/08/93 6:16a
Subj: Mitsumi Cd Rom Drive; So Refer: NONE
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SD>Sounds more like the LU-002S to me.. (Which I'm running under OS/2 2.1)..
SD> l8r,
SD> Scott
I'm trying to set mine up for OS/2 2.1. Where did you get the drivers?
Lew
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From: LEW MURRAY Number: 4822
To: SCOTT DAVIS Date: 10/08/93 6:25a
Subj: Mitsumi Lu005s Drive Refer: NONE
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SD>For one thing, the driver you FREQed was the beta to the release of the Germ
SD>driver.. the release version works fine with OS/2 2.1 and is not limited by
SD>date.
SD> l8r,
SD> Scott
Where can I get the release version?
Lew
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From: DAVE RYDER Number: 4823
To: ALL Date: 10/07/93 12:46a
Subj: Mayo Clinic & OS/2 Refer: NONE
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Has anyone had any experience running Mayo Clinic Family Health Book,
Interactive Edition, under a WinOS/2 Session?
This recently purchased program has caused my first GPF. More
specifically, the program will go through the install, and once
selected to run, the opening background screen will appear and the
GPF will occur. It never reached the point of displaying the title.
I find this odd considering that several other MPC cd-rom discs,
including: Microsoft Musical Instruments, San Diego Zoo - Animals,
and Groliers Multimedia Encyclopedia, all work fine under the same
setup.
I have tested the cd on another machine running Windows 3.1, with
similar hardware, and it does work, so the cd itself does not appear
to be defective.
Relavent equipment includes: 16 meg. 486-33, running OS/2 2.1 with
MMPM, SB Pro Dlx, Mitsumi 005s cd drive using the Noller drivers.
Suggestions would be appreciated.
***Dave.
Entered Oct 6,93 from Mississauga, Ontario. rn.1063@rose.com
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN Number: 4824
To: CANADIAN CD-ROM BUYERS Date: 10/07/93 7:45a
Subj: ...CONTINUED Refer: NONE
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Dear fellow Canadians, here's
*** Why you should buy Canadian, reason #12 ***
What happens if the CD-ROM you buy is defective, and you've bought
it from the U.S.? When this happened to me, I was lucky, because
I bought it from one of the fastest and most helpful dealers at
the time. Unfortunately, it still took 3 weeks round trip, and
customs decided that charging the G.S.T., etc. a second time would
be a good idea. :(
We offer to replace or give complete credit for any defective
CD-ROM. The round trip will not involve any extra charges,
and we can even send out your replacement BEFORE you send yours
back. That's convenience, and how Canadian service is better
for *you*.
CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA
6 Armstrong Bay * Regina, Sk. S4N 4G7
306-789-4654 Voice * 306-789-8690 Fax
VISA/MC/MO/Cheque Accepted
New titles weekly! Call for current specials!
P.S.
Dear U.S. Customers:
When you order from us, we ensure that you don't pay any
duties and taxes that don't apply to you - and you still get our
famous CD-ROM warranty!
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From: CORKY CORCORAN Number: 4825
To: DANIEL PRINCE Date: 10/06/93 6:42p
Subj: Re: seventh guest proble Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoted Daniel Prince to All about Seventh guest problems on 10-02-93
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DP> My Brother can't run the CDROM program "Seventh Guest"
DP> on his 486DX-33 system. He thought it was because his VGA card
DP> was too slow but he replaced his VGA card with a "Diamond
DP> Speedstar Pro" and it still does the same thing. What happens is
DP> that during the introduction numerals start appearing in the
DP> upper left corner of the screen and colored blocks appear across
DP> the screen about two thirds down from the top of the screen.
DP> After about ten seconds of this the computer locks up. If he has
DP> Qemm loaded, he gets an exception 13 error message. He says it
DP> also locks up without Qemm loaded. (He doesn't use DV.) He says
DP> that if he configures his PAS to emulate the "Adlib" card which
DP> doesn't use DMA, the program go farther before it crashes.
DP> Does anyone have any suggestions on how he can get this program
DP> to run on his machine? He has already tried changing the
DP> interrupts on his sound card and CD rom controller and running
DP> without any TSRs etc. Thank you in advance for all replies.
I believe that you have the old version. There were many bugs in the first
version. If you call the Virgin Games BBS, you can download the patch. It
will probably fix your problems. I was having sound buffer failures with my
Sound Blaster Pro and it fixed them. There are al
